| 00:02.21 | Rock_From_Hell | Thank you :) |
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| 01:06.24 | dino82_ | test recieved :D |
| 01:07.18 | DrodoEmpire | yey |
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| 02:11.20 | dino82_ | see ya! |
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| 05:49.08 | AnonyLurk | http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wQIa2NBtpl |
| 05:49.24 | AnonyLurk | Friendly reminder that science fiction, like any story, is about characters rather than nations. |
| 05:53.20 | TekDroid | Not necessarily. That's a narrow definition of what constitutes a story. |
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| 05:55.54 | TekDroid | The story of nations can have all the elements of a story, though they are not strictly necessary. It still has a narrative with plots and a setting. It may involve characters but hardly requires them. |
| 05:58.14 | TekDroid | AnonyLurk: Just because it doesn't directly deal with characters as the main actors of its narrative hardly disqualifies it as a story of any kind. |
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| 06:15.45 | TekDroid | Barring an extreme application of the "Great Man Theory" pretty much the telling of any event involving nations can be told without being focused around characters, telling the story of the events. |
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| 09:03.24 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1459411752357.jpg |
| 09:03.49 | Liquid_Ink | ..? |
| 09:04.11 | ImpyDroid | nevermind |
| 09:04.33 | ImpyDroid | "Orange slime" is how I am going to call Trump from now on |
| 09:05.45 | Liquid_Ink | Hurr |
| 09:06.31 | ImpyDroid | Also take a look |
| 09:06.40 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Jaharan_ae-Zamarros |
| 09:07.31 | Liquid_Ink | The best part of that page are the sections not written yet. |
| 09:07.40 | Liquid_Ink | "Messiah" "Madman" "Legacy" |
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| 10:13.36 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 10:47.25 | Monet | hi |
| 11:08.18 | ImpyDroid | iH |
| 11:22.41 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: How do you call the area around Rome? |
| 11:22.41 | Ghelae | Italy. |
| 11:22.41 | Ghelae | I don't know of any names for the near-Rome region. |
| 11:22.41 | ImpyDroid | Oh wait found it |
| 11:22.41 | ImpyDroid | Lazio |
| 11:22.42 | ImpyDroid | Would it be okay with you if Jaharan invaded Earth at some point? |
| 11:22.43 | Ghelae | It would be more important to ask users with human nations about that... but an invasion of Earth might help to explain why it was abandoned. |
| 11:22.43 | Monet | Which point will be important |
| 11:23.17 | ImpyDroid | Iovera - WE REKD YOUR HOMEWORLD LOL |
| 11:23.17 | Ghelae | Late 24th to early 25th century is quite early, I suppose. |
| 11:23.41 | Ghelae | looks at the histories of major human factions |
| 11:23.50 | ImpyDroid | If it was abandoned because of Radeons attacking it'd probably make them too important |
| 11:24.41 | Ghelae | It doesn't need to be the only reason. Abandoning an entire homeworld might require quite a few factors. |
| 11:25.01 | Ghelae | France doesn't have anything between the early 24th and early 28th centuries, so there's room in the mid-24th century there. |
| 11:26.57 | Ghelae | European Star Republic and ATR don't mention anything else between the 22nd and 27th. |
| 11:27.18 | Ghelae | Fjord League has nothing between 23rd and 26th. |
| 11:27.50 | ImpyDroid | Now I feel tempted to make a story set during that period with Radeons as antagonists |
| 11:29.25 | Ghelae | Roreinia has stuff in the late 24th to mid 25th centuries. But it looks like you could still fit a Radeon crusade in there. |
| 11:31.36 | Monet | They could have done more to earth than simply invaded. |
| 11:31.44 | ImpyDroid | I can totally imagine Radeons wrecking important local religious places when they invaded foreign worlds |
| 11:32.01 | ImpyDroid | Which is why I asked about the area around Rome |
| 11:32.43 | Monet | So they could try wrecking The Vatican? |
| 11:32.58 | ImpyDroid | Yes among other places hur |
| 11:33.17 | ImpyDroid | Rome, Hijaz, Nepal and the Levant |
| 11:33.36 | ImpyDroid | Though if they invaded the Levant their crusaders would be like literal crusaderw |
| 11:33.39 | Ghelae | A lot of the human nation pages are incomplete[/abandoned]. I may have missed something, but the only mentions of anything between the crusade era and leaving Earth are in the Kingdom of Aztlan and POTATO. |
| 11:33.41 | ImpyDroid | *crusaders |
| 11:34.22 | Ghelae | The mention on POTATO's page is just about post-24th century relationships with other major human powers. |
| 11:35.10 | Ghelae | Aztlan's page mentions them developing a space program in "the late 2400s". |
| 11:35.46 | ImpyDroid | Dem mexicans |
| 11:35.59 | Ghelae | So as far as I can tell there are no canonicity issues with the Jaharani Crusade reaching Earth. |
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| 11:40.06 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:40.06 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 11:40.44 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: Remember what I said about Radeon crusades in the 24th century? |
| 11:40.46 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:40.56 | ImpyDroid | I wonder if they could have invaded Earth |
| 11:40.58 | Wormy_ | Yes, I do |
| 11:43.38 | Wormy_ | Hm, if the Radeon were still Tier 2 at the time they could have flattened tier 4 Terran forces |
| 11:45.10 | Wormy_ | That being said, humanity had Ataein allies, as well as contact with more advanced humans |
| 11:47.04 | Wormy_ | A conquest through Terran territory probably would have been hard going, plus you'd need to talk to several users about it. But then being Tier 2 the Radeon ships could have just jumped in over Earth without warning |
| 11:47.24 | Ghelae | Yet more alternative ideas for Rights of Earth: Set it 400 years earlier; Thals either take advantage of Radeon-wrought destruction, or join Jaharan in his crusade (Spode-worshipping Neanderthals?). |
| 11:47.52 | Ghelae | They aren't necessarily good ideas, but they just occured to me. |
| 11:48.08 | Wormy_ | It's possible |
| 11:49.23 | Wormy_ | I prefer connecting them to the Chitauri |
| 11:49.47 | Ghelae | That could still fit in with the former suggestion. |
| 11:50.53 | Ghelae | If the Radeons were about as advanced in the early 25th century as they are in the early 28th, that does imply that they've gone from being able to crush the whole of humanity to France alone being their near equals. |
| 11:52.39 | Monet | Didnt' the Radeons face some sort of decline under or nor two clericarchs? |
| 11:52.46 | Monet | Or am I guessing |
| 11:54.59 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Is there a way we can fit the Reptillians into this? |
| 11:55.58 | ImpyDroid | Could be yeah |
| 11:57.36 | Wormy_ | Sounds like the Ebu Gogo theory is ruled out. I don't believe it's possible to culturally remember a species that long without writing http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35930979 |
| 11:58.54 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebu_gogo |
| 12:01.59 | Wormy_ | Dynamo's magic trick fails http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/35931826/dynamos-bottle-magic-trick-didnt-go-to-plan-in-london |
| 12:05.20 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: Jaharan having allied himself with the Reptilians is actually a brilliant idea |
| 12:05.40 | ImpyDroid | Would also explain why the IN did not just off him when he started getting into power |
| 12:05.52 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
| 12:06.04 | ImpyDroid | Also I think the Church at this point was like tier 3 |
| 12:06.16 | ImpyDroid | or low tier 2 |
| 12:06.27 | Wormy_ | The Reptillians are either shape shifters, or live as parasites inside a host |
| 12:11.12 | Technobliterator | guy got stabbed in London because he owed this gang £120 |
| 12:11.22 | Technobliterator | died with his girlfriend holding him screaming "I love you" |
| 12:11.49 | Technobliterator | sad part is, I've had this kind of thing happen so many times to people I know |
| 12:13.11 | Wormy_ | Yeah, there was a young man who was stabbed for protecting his friend in Nottingham a year ago. And some of fellow students on my course new him, and he would have been on my course but chose to do somethinbg-else. |
| 12:13.21 | Wormy_ | and died |
| 12:13.49 | Wormy_ | He was a boxer so he still achieved in beating up his attackers but succumbed in the end |
| 12:14.16 | ImpyDroid | brb |
| 12:14.35 | Wormy_ | So yeah, people die for nothing like that all the time |
| 12:14.47 | Technobliterator | It's really sad that young people end up going down that route |
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| 12:26.12 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:26.26 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:26.30 | Monet | Techno: I'm not sure what to say my end. |
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| 12:27.52 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:28.01 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:31.22 | Technobliterator | hihi |
| 12:32.41 | Monet | https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18ie6sg7gatq8jpg.jpg found these stats. |
| 12:34.44 | Monet | The number of players who did not get to meet Wrex in 3 surprises me. |
| 12:36.00 | Technobliterator | Platinum Demo |
| 12:36.02 | Technobliterator | woooooo |
| 12:36.12 | Hachiman | That one percent on Kaidan tho |
| 12:36.25 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're interested in FFXV, right? |
| 12:36.29 | Hachiman | I am |
| 12:36.36 | Technobliterator | oh my god |
| 12:36.36 | Technobliterator | like |
| 12:36.43 | Technobliterator | the new stuff from the event yesterday |
| 12:36.44 | Technobliterator | so hype |
| 12:36.56 | Hachiman | Did they unveil a new trailer or something? |
| 12:37.03 | Technobliterator | They revealed: |
| 12:37.26 | OluapPlayer | there are in fact 15 fantasies, and they are all final |
| 12:37.44 | Technobliterator | A new trailer, three new videos of footage, an anime series alongside the game, a film alongside the game, a companion app, and the release date |
| 12:37.59 | Hachiman | Ooh an anime and film |
| 12:38.02 | Hachiman | That is ambitious |
| 12:38.08 | OluapPlayer | A guy I follow on Twitter posted this yesterday: "The Final Fantasy XV release date has been leaked. This is the first time something related to FF XV has been completed ahead of schedule" |
| 12:38.16 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 12:38.22 | Technobliterator | Let me put it this way: |
| 12:38.47 | Hachiman | It seems they are putting as much love into FFXV as they are putting into FFXIV |
| 12:38.47 | Technobliterator | Lots of people were having doubts about this game, how it's taken so long to make and how it looks so different. |
| 12:38.48 | OluapPlayer | https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO the best twitter account right here |
| 12:38.56 | Technobliterator | No one has doubts about this game anymore. |
| 12:39.19 | Hachiman | I was always confident that FFXV was going to be successful |
| 12:39.19 | Technobliterator | now it's just hype train everywhere |
| 12:39.23 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 12:39.28 | Technobliterator | it's basically guaranteed now |
| 12:39.34 | Hachiman | Squeenix has learned since FFXIII |
| 12:40.00 | Technobliterator | One guy from one forum I read: |
| 12:40.24 | Technobliterator | "I explicitly remember when I saw the FFXIII battle system feeling my dick go soft and shrivel up. This did not happen during FFXV Uncovered." |
| 12:40.38 | OluapPlayer | You will never know such feeling |
| 12:40.45 | Monet | I still have doubts. |
| 12:40.57 | Monet | The faster the train, the greater the danger |
| 12:40.57 | Technobliterator | I'm just stupidly hyped |
| 12:41.05 | OluapPlayer | "We are releasing PlayStation VR just before the US election so people can use it to pretend they are not in a world were Trump is president" |
| 12:41.06 | OluapPlayer | Fucking savage |
| 12:41.20 | Hachiman | olol |
| 12:41.29 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 12:41.31 | Technobliterator | hahahahaha |
| 12:41.50 | OluapPlayer | As for gaming hype, all of mine belongs to Dark Souls 3 |
| 12:42.03 | OluapPlayer | Just 11 days until release |
| 12:42.04 | Hachiman | I would be more hyped for FFXV if I could play it hur |
| 12:42.05 | Technobliterator | Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted 4 for me at the moment |
| 12:42.15 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, there's a new demo for it now |
| 12:42.17 | Technobliterator | Platinum Demo |
| 12:42.20 | Technobliterator | so you can |
| 12:42.21 | Hachiman | No I meant |
| 12:42.25 | Technobliterator | oh, no console |
| 12:42.26 | Hachiman | If I had a platform to run it on |
| 12:42.26 | Technobliterator | aw |
| 12:42.26 | OluapPlayer | Dark Souls 3 looks like it's already going to be my GOTY |
| 12:42.44 | Technobliterator | If I get Dark Souls 3, it won't be on release |
| 12:42.53 | Technobliterator | Three games coming out this year that I absolutely need to get on release |
| 12:42.56 | Technobliterator | i'm gonna run out of money |
| 12:43.04 | OluapPlayer | You sure as hell should not start in it |
| 12:43.07 | Hachiman | I am being a good boy and saving my money hur |
| 12:43.13 | OluapPlayer | If you play to play Dark Souls, start from the first game |
| 12:43.17 | Technobliterator | Which is the best one to start with? |
| 12:43.18 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 12:43.23 | Technobliterator | because of the story or mechanics? |
| 12:43.24 | Hachiman | Always the first hur |
| 12:43.27 | Hachiman | Mechanics |
| 12:43.28 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 12:43.39 | Hachiman | Well, and story, but more mechanics |
| 12:44.52 | OluapPlayer | DS1's PC port is bad and needs mods to be fixed so you may want to play the console version of that |
| 12:44.54 | Technobliterator | I tell people the same for the MGS series |
| 12:45.06 | OluapPlayer | 2 onward though, play on PC |
| 12:45.09 | Technobliterator | Like, you can jsut play them chronologically, but it'll be really dumb going from MGSV to Metal Gear 1 |
| 12:45.23 | Technobliterator | and even if you skip the non-Solid games, MGSV to MGS1 is still jarring |
| 12:45.26 | Technobliterator | and disappointing |
| 12:45.55 | Technobliterator | oh, I won't be playing on PC anyway |
| 12:46.09 | OluapPlayer | Why not hur |
| 12:46.14 | Hachiman | >not playing DS2 on PC |
| 12:46.23 | Technobliterator | I think we've had this discussion :p |
| 12:46.27 | Hachiman | CAAAAAASSSSUUUUAAALLLLLL |
| 12:46.34 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 12:46.35 | Technobliterator | it normally ends with Hachi calling me an elitist or something? |
| 12:46.36 | Technobliterator | or uh |
| 12:46.36 | OluapPlayer | Penguin |
| 12:46.36 | Technobliterator | hipster? |
| 12:46.37 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 12:46.51 | OluapPlayer | Well that means we can't play together |
| 12:46.52 | OluapPlayer | ur loss |
| 12:46.57 | Hachiman | Yeah, that's usually how that conversation ends |
| 12:47.04 | Hachiman | With me being right and you being wrong :p |
| 12:47.10 | OluapPlayer | Let's not |
| 12:47.26 | Technobliterator | Not with you putting me in my metaphorical place and telling me to go to the kitchen? |
| 12:47.33 | OluapPlayer | The very first Souls game is Demon's Souls, a PS3 exclusive |
| 12:47.34 | Hachiman | That too |
| 12:47.43 | OluapPlayer | I wouldn't be able to recommend it since I never played it myself |
| 12:48.08 | Technobliterator | All I ever heard about Dark Souls was how hardcore it was |
| 12:48.17 | OluapPlayer | The difficulty is a meme |
| 12:48.18 | Technobliterator | I wonder if any of them are on PS Now |
| 12:48.24 | Technobliterator | I can probably rent one of them if so |
| 12:48.34 | OluapPlayer | It's a game without handholding where you're (usually) at fault in your mistakes |
| 12:48.59 | OluapPlayer | It's a game requiring patience, which most people nowadays don't have |
| 12:49.06 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 12:49.15 | Technobliterator | Games have gotten a whole lot easier now, yup |
| 12:49.24 | Monet | I guess the other surprise (for me) with those ME3 stats is Ashley's more popular in playthroughs. |
| 12:49.38 | OluapPlayer | It's a very simple game really. You look for an opening, and attack when the enemy is vulnerable |
| 12:49.41 | OluapPlayer | aka every action RPG ever |
| 12:49.42 | Hachiman | Ashley has more personality than Kaidan |
| 12:50.03 | Technobliterator | Is it one of those where you need to often look up a guide because the game doesn't explicitly tell you something? |
| 12:50.06 | Hachiman | Plus over 80% of people played ManShep and Ashley has tits |
| 12:50.38 | Technobliterator | over 80% is surprising |
| 12:50.40 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: The game has lots of secrets, some completely unintuitive, but you don't need them to finish the game |
| 12:50.42 | Monet | Hachiman: I discoverd in 3 you can have a flign with Kaiden as Man Shep. |
| 12:50.50 | Monet | fling* |
| 12:50.51 | Technobliterator | Ahh, I see |
| 12:50.57 | OluapPlayer | Like |
| 12:51.04 | OluapPlayer | There's this big ass wyvern on the bridge |
| 12:51.19 | OluapPlayer | If you cut its tail off, you get a sword that's OP in the early game |
| 12:51.30 | OluapPlayer | The game never indicates you can cut the thing's tail off to begin with |
| 12:52.01 | Hachiman | But the Drake Sword is useless in mid and late game because it scales badly |
| 12:52.09 | OluapPlayer | It doesn't scale at all |
| 12:52.11 | OluapPlayer | Hence early game |
| 12:52.42 | Hachiman | and dunt level up ur fukn dex faggot |
| 12:52.52 | OluapPlayer | Weapons normally increase in power with your stats, but some, like the wyvern's tail sword, don't scale with your stats at all |
| 12:53.05 | OluapPlayer | Later in the game it won't deal any damage to enemies |
| 12:53.59 | OluapPlayer | Which is why it's typically considered the mark of a noob who used a guide to find it |
| 12:54.07 | Hachiman | Like I did hur |
| 12:54.52 | OluapPlayer | Drake Sword is good for killing Havel though |
| 12:55.00 | OluapPlayer | So I always get it anyway |
| 12:55.04 | Hachiman | yEAH |
| 12:55.06 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 12:55.29 | Hachiman | Havel is a silly fight because your armour does nothing to defend against his attacks so most people just strip naked and fight him |
| 12:55.36 | Technobliterator | oh, one thing |
| 12:55.50 | OluapPlayer | Havel is a dude wearing armor made of ROCK, who uses a dragon's TOOTH as a greathammer |
| 12:55.50 | Technobliterator | They're actually talking about opening up multiplayer on consoles |
| 12:55.52 | OluapPlayer | And he will fuck you up |
| 12:56.06 | Technobliterator | So we might still be able to play if I'm on console afterall |
| 12:56.08 | Hachiman | Ah yes, cross-platform multiplayer |
| 12:56.25 | Hachiman | I dunno if that includes PCs though |
| 12:56.27 | Technobliterator | Like, FFXIV already does this, but both MS and Sony are talking about allowing XBL and PSN to be cross-platform |
| 12:56.38 | OluapPlayer | The game would have to be programmed with cross-platform functions |
| 12:56.41 | Technobliterator | If it includes those two, there's no reason for it not to include PCs |
| 12:56.44 | OluapPlayer | Which is not the case for Dark Souls |
| 12:57.14 | Technobliterator | And MS already see the writing on the wall. They don't release Xbone exclusives anymore, all thier games come to PC |
| 12:57.36 | Technobliterator | that, and Sony are making PlayStation VR work with PC |
| 12:57.43 | Technobliterator | I think they have plans |
| 12:58.01 | Technobliterator | and those plans do not involve having consoles as they currently are |
| 12:58.43 | Hachiman | https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12832571_976221485779441_7811586269024174472_n.png?oh=be8635a5af5c8bdfb46600b22a1fe31a&oe=577610A5 |
| 12:59.17 | OluapPlayer | Should've seen Hachi when he started playing Dark Souls |
| 12:59.19 | OluapPlayer | The rage was real |
| 12:59.58 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 12:59.59 | Hachiman | hur |
| 13:00.17 | Hachiman | I cannot remember why I got so angry with it or where I was at my angriest |
| 13:00.25 | OluapPlayer | The Bell Gargoyles |
| 13:00.30 | OluapPlayer | That was your angriest point |
| 13:00.37 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/tCOqrTe.png |
| 13:00.38 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 13:00.43 | OluapPlayer | You can out of humanity and kept dying to them |
| 13:00.47 | OluapPlayer | ran out* |
| 13:01.07 | OluapPlayer | And then you went in and solo'd them |
| 13:01.08 | Hachiman | I think Ornstein and Smough was a close second |
| 13:01.15 | OluapPlayer | Something I never managed to do myself |
| 13:01.38 | OluapPlayer | Oreos and Smores enrages everyone so it's more excusable |
| 13:01.47 | Hachiman | It would not have been so maddening if you could get Humanity from elsewhere other than having to go back and fucking kill rats over and over |
| 13:01.55 | Wormy_ | yuck http://imgur.com/gallery/TzUvwRR |
| 13:01.59 | OluapPlayer | You could co-op |
| 13:02.07 | OluapPlayer | Co-oping gave you a soft humanity |
| 13:02.21 | Hachiman | I tried that and nobody summoned me hur |
| 13:02.30 | OluapPlayer | Should've tried harder hur |
| 13:02.36 | Hachiman | Should have praised |
| 13:02.46 | OluapPlayer | Didn't praise the sun hard enough |
| 13:02.54 | OluapPlayer | But still you got gud and finished the game in the end |
| 13:02.58 | Hachiman | \[T]/ |
| 13:03.01 | OluapPlayer | if hachi can do it, so can u |
| 13:03.26 | Hachiman | I cannot wait to see Jo's reaction to Pikachu and Snorlax |
| 13:03.42 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/szZxzVb.jpg |
| 13:03.47 | OluapPlayer | Also you have 11 days to finish DS2 before I abandon that game completely hur |
| 13:03.59 | Technobliterator | oh man |
| 13:04.05 | Hachiman | no i dunt cus im not buyin u ds3 |
| 13:04.09 | Technobliterator | I had bought Pokemon Omega Ruby a while back |
| 13:04.13 | OluapPlayer | dunt u dare |
| 13:04.15 | Technobliterator | still not played |
| 13:04.20 | Technobliterator | because not finished with Bravely Default |
| 13:04.42 | Monet | I ended up looking into the Philosopher's Legacy again. |
| 13:04.51 | Hachiman | I love the nicknames people give the bosses in DS |
| 13:05.14 | Monet | I think it has to be more than a $100bln bank account. |
| 13:05.22 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/DT3zTsf.jpg |
| 13:05.29 | OluapPlayer | Damnit, I want to find a DS video but I can't remember the name |
| 13:05.40 | OluapPlayer | It's the perfect "feel of the game" video |
| 13:05.45 | Hachiman | Fatboy and Slim, Biggie Smalls, Drake and Josh, Little Boy and Fat Man, wtfwasthat and thisrangeisfuckingbullshit |
| 13:06.02 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 13:06.31 | Hachiman | You should also get Bloodborne |
| 13:07.51 | *** join/#sporewiki OluapPlayer_ (badafdcd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.218.253.205) |
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| 13:07.59 | OluapPlayer_ | MOTHERFUCKER |
| 13:08.20 | OluapPlayer_ | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYbOVTQnbAA watch this to have a feel of the game |
| 13:10.11 | Technobliterator | hahahahaha |
| 13:10.13 | Technobliterator | this looks brutal |
| 13:10.16 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/0buqJfj |
| 13:12.57 | Hachiman | Oh God the Giantdad at the end |
| 13:14.22 | OluapPlayer_ | i didnt get gud for dis |
| 13:14.56 | Wormy_ | ghelae http://imgur.com/gallery/56BWMFL |
| 13:15.31 | Ghelae | That's one way of looking at it. |
| 13:17.36 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/M1GMJtf.jpg |
| 13:23.34 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Samurai tourists in Eygpt get off the coach for a photo http://i.imgur.com/iQ1hNmA.jpg |
| 13:24.28 | Hachiman | How strange] |
| 13:24.41 | Wormy_ | I joke, its from 1864, but they are still Samurai |
| 13:25.09 | Hachiman | It seems surreal to have Samurai nobles standing alongside the Pyramids and Egyptians |
| 13:26.01 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 13:27.07 | Wormy_ | I'm reading on Wikipedia that they were sent to the West with an "Order to Expel Barbarians" |
| 13:27.27 | Hachiman | https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12932568_2235680403121673_9216164016258424563_n.jpg?oh=87fd5ef9c0d9ea37e76ef3762c91cb01&oe=578D3EEE This made me feelsy |
| 13:27.50 | Wormy_ | So they were trying to close of Western influence by negotiating with France |
| 13:28.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: y u do dis |
| 13:30.17 | Hachiman | It only came to me a few days ago that we will be alive to see the 100th Anniversary of World War 2 |
| 13:31.01 | OluapPlayer_ | We'll see the 100th anniversary of World War 1 in 2 years |
| 13:31.41 | Monet | We saw the 100th anneversery of the outbreak two years ag othough |
| 13:32.39 | Hachiman | It comes as really odd to me |
| 13:33.10 | Hachiman | Like World War 2 is still somewhat prevalent and relevant to current issues and affairs yet it happened almost a whole century ago |
| 13:33.11 | Wormy_ | Time marches on |
| 13:34.55 | Wormy_ | I will be 45 years old |
| 13:35.40 | Wormy_ | in September 1st, 2039 |
| 13:35.46 | Wormy_ | *on |
| 13:36.13 | Monet | Probably becasue the generations that grew up in it are still alive and populous. |
| 13:37.19 | TekDroid | Yeah, unlike WWI many of its combatants are still alive. |
| 13:37.22 | Hachiman | We should work to change that |
| 13:37.24 | Wormy_ | About one or two veterans from WWI nearly lived until WW1 Anniversary, thus I expect a few will survive till then |
| 13:37.25 | Hachiman | kek |
| 13:37.52 | Hachiman | The Queen will, definitely |
| 13:37.58 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Green |
| 13:38.14 | Hachiman | The Queen is a World War 2 veteran if I recall |
| 13:39.18 | Wormy_ | I think they were veterans of the American Civil War still alive in the era of the world wars |
| 13:40.14 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_last_surviving_veterans_of_military_insurgencies_and_wars#American_Civil_War_.281861.E2.80.9365.29 |
| 13:40.19 | Wormy_ | 1956 |
| 13:40.35 | Hachiman | No fucking way |
| 13:41.35 | Wormy_ | Crazy because the last survivors of the American Revolutionary War lived to see the civil war. |
| 13:41.47 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 13:41.52 | Hachiman | That is crazy |
| 13:42.49 | Monet | I think WWII affected a lot more people at home as well as in the coutnries in conflict. |
| 13:44.14 | Wormy_ | I read about a man today who's grandfather lived in the 18th century |
| 13:44.34 | Wormy_ | His grandfather and father both had children as old men |
| 13:44.45 | Monet | In Britain, thousands of people (or is it hundreds) still rememebr being sent away from their homes to live with families in the country. |
| 13:44.45 | Wormy_ | And this guy today is an old man too |
| 13:46.19 | Hachiman | I wonder how connected refugees were with their host families after the war was over |
| 13:46.35 | Monet | Probably varies. |
| 13:46.59 | Monet | But these kinds often lived with these families for several years. |
| 13:47.12 | Hachiman | Well World War 2 lasted for six years |
| 13:48.02 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuel_Cook |
| 13:48.11 | Monet | I can't remember how long it was between the war's outbreak and the calling for Evacuation |
| 13:48.13 | Wormy_ | There's even pictures of revolutionary war vets |
| 13:48.30 | Hachiman | They sent all the kids up to Northern England because the Axis rightly did not give a shit about it hur |
| 13:48.34 | Monet | And there are plenty of stories of worried parents who cracked and sought to get theri kids back. |
| 13:49.28 | Monet | The Nazis would be stupid to not target Liverpool, Birmingham and Manchester. |
| 13:49.59 | Wormy_ | I wonder what the rev vets thought of the civil war |
| 13:51.42 | Wormy_ | oh wait |
| 13:51.43 | TekDroid | In terms of wars the invention of film definitely help in remembering the 20th century wars over previous ones |
| 13:51.48 | Wormy_ | they died as it began |
| 13:52.20 | Wormy_ | actually, some of them lived |
| 13:53.04 | Monet | TekDroid: Maybe education as well |
| 13:53.06 | Wormy_ | 1868 was the last verified veteran, and the civil war ended 1865 |
| 13:53.13 | Wormy_ | pardon my American history |
| 13:53.30 | Monet | WWII is a mandatory subject that can take up a year of school. |
| 13:54.08 | TekDroid | Monet_: That too. There's more making younger generations remember these wars. |
| 13:54.59 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember history class being one of my best back at school |
| 13:55.01 | OluapPlayer_ | now I remember virtually nothing |
| 13:55.20 | Hachiman | Same here |
| 13:55.45 | TekDroid | Once most WWII vets have died from age perhaps it will become shift to a less prominent role in our history, having become fully "the past". |
| 13:55.49 | Hachiman | I wish they taught stuff about the Pacific theatre in schools though |
| 13:55.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Probably helped that my history teacher was one of the most firm |
| 13:55.55 | Monet | What's odd is that the Gulf War was the start of the modern kind of war, many of us were born either during or a little after it and the after-effects possibly ocntributed to the current Western-Arab onflict. |
| 13:56.04 | OluapPlayer_ | But she was still one of my favorites |
| 13:56.09 | OluapPlayer_ | She taught you well |
| 13:56.20 | Hachiman | Sounds like my RE teacher |
| 13:56.27 | Wormy_ | I think Churchill took part on the Boer Wars |
| 13:56.33 | Hachiman | I also excelled at RE hur |
| 13:56.47 | Monet | Yet the Gulf War is a subject rarely mentioned. |
| 13:56.49 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember her having a sarcastic sense of humour |
| 13:56.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Which may be a reason i liked her |
| 13:56.58 | Impaway | RE |
| 13:57.05 | Impaway | wu dat |
| 13:57.11 | Hachiman | Religious Education |
| 13:57.25 | Impaway | DEUS VULT |
| 13:57.27 | OluapPlayer_ | yick religion in school |
| 13:57.28 | Hachiman | Despite the name it actually taught more than just about religion |
| 13:57.36 | Hachiman | It taught about general foreign culture |
| 13:57.50 | Impaway | That falls into geography in our country |
| 13:58.03 | Wormy_ | RE ideally teaches about all relogions too, though I only remember having one lesson in Hinduism |
| 13:58.04 | OluapPlayer_ | History over here |
| 13:58.11 | Wormy_ | *religion |
| 13:58.19 | Impaway | There have been attempts at making religious education here but they are voluntary |
| 13:58.22 | TekDroid | Hachiman: The WWII fronts taught are largely a cultural thing. Here in Canada we barely even cover both the European and Pacific wars, instead focusing mainly on the Battle of the Atlantic |
| 13:58.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Geography you learn about ROCKS and the cycle of rain |
| 13:58.33 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 13:58.48 | Impaway | OluapPlayer_: In our country it goes thusly |
| 13:58.50 | Hachiman | RE in my school covered Hinduism, Sikhism, a bit of Islam, Christianity |
| 13:58.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Biology was my favorite class |
| 13:59.00 | Monet | Wormy_: Same, most of my RE lessons were on Christianity. Even when I had an RE teacher who preferred the term "philosophy and ethis" instead of "religious studies" |
| 13:59.06 | Wormy_ | I learned a lot about the Romans and Tudors in my school |
| 13:59.06 | OluapPlayer_ | The only one I can say I enjoyed watching |
| 13:59.08 | Ghelae | I had RE from years 7 to 9, but our college didn't have an RE teacher when I was there, so we had something called "Improving your Own Learning and Performance" instead. |
| 13:59.19 | TekDroid | RE? We never had any of that here. |
| 13:59.22 | Impaway | Rocks in general -> GLORIOUS ROCKS OF RUSSIA -> Inferior rocks of foreign countries -> Rocks of other countries |
| 13:59.34 | Monet | philosophy and ethics* |
| 13:59.40 | OluapPlayer_ | It's a class about animals |
| 13:59.42 | Ghelae | RE in primary school was all Bible stories because it's a Church of England school. |
| 13:59.42 | OluapPlayer_ | I was more than sold |
| 13:59.50 | Impaway | We have this division in most courses |
| 13:59.59 | Wormy_ | Same |
| 14:00.00 | Impaway | Half of the year is inferior world history |
| 14:00.01 | Hachiman | We did not have a separate biology class; it came under Science |
| 14:00.08 | Impaway | The other half is GLORIOUS RUSSIAN HISTORY |
| 14:00.19 | Impaway | Until the 20th century that is |
| 14:00.24 | OluapPlayer_ | We had Science, which later branched into Biology, Physics and Chemistry |
| 14:00.26 | Hachiman | And we rarely learned about biology despite it being my favourite subject |
| 14:00.31 | Monet | Hachiman: For me science was split into three subjects at GCSE |
| 14:00.32 | OluapPlayer_ | I *HATE* Physics |
| 14:00.35 | Impaway | But that part of world history is basically about GLORIOUS MOTHER RUSSIA anyway |
| 14:00.36 | Hachiman | Chemistry and physics were most often taught |
| 14:00.46 | Hachiman | Physics is fucking awful |
| 14:00.49 | Wormy_ | My school didn't really have science lessons, except for some about physical geography |
| 14:00.56 | OluapPlayer_ | Physics is Maths on fucking steroids |
| 14:00.57 | Monet | I think I got a healthy balance of physics, hemistry and biology. |
| 14:01.05 | Ghelae | It was all a single Science class until GCSE. Then people with the best grades got to do Triple Science, which was bio, phys and chem. |
| 14:01.10 | Ghelae | Seperately. |
| 14:01.24 | Monet | Ghelae: That explains how I had three then. |
| 14:01.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Maths is Liquid Ocelot, Physics is Senator Armstrong |
| 14:01.45 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.45 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:01.57 | Monet | I can't remember the exact order but I think I came out with A for Physics, B for Chemistry and B for Biology. |
| 14:01.59 | Ghelae | I don't remember GCSE physics any more, so I can just assume people don't like it because it's taught terribly. |
| 14:02.00 | Hachiman | I also was not too fond of chemistry because I could barely remember anything |
| 14:02.16 | OluapPlayer_ | Chemistry was also hard |
| 14:02.19 | Wormy_ | Couldn't afford GCSE's so I did open university courses instead, I picked planetary science and palaeobiology |
| 14:02.22 | OluapPlayer_ | But Physics was just balls to the wall |
| 14:02.23 | Ghelae | I can't imagine how you fill up those years with those of physics when I wasn't taught Newton's laws until my A-levels. |
| 14:02.32 | Ghelae | those years with physics* |
| 14:03.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Meanwhile young Oluap knew everything about biology from animals to the most negligibly small portions of cells |
| 14:03.15 | Wormy_ | Me? I've alwaysa been a self-directed learner, even now at degree level |
| 14:03.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Which I have now forgotten forever |
| 14:03.36 | Hachiman | I can remember some cellular biology |
| 14:03.45 | Ghelae | I have vague memories of measuring masses and velocities to demonstrate conservation of momentum, and some things involving electrical circuits. There may also have been springs and lenses, but I think that all came later. |
| 14:03.47 | Hachiman | MITOCHONDRIA SON |
| 14:03.48 | OluapPlayer_ | All I remember now is that cells have nuclei |
| 14:03.59 | Monet | I guess its osmewhat odd I did so well in science but I'm now doing art. |
| 14:04.03 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't remember what motochondria are hur |
| 14:04.06 | OluapPlayer_ | mito even |
| 14:04.07 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.87) |
| 14:04.10 | Monet | Though I suppose physics and biology still comes up in my work |
| 14:04.16 | Hachiman | They are essentially the energetic powerhouses that run cells |
| 14:04.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Ah |
| 14:04.33 | ImpyDroid | They are also basically tiny cells themselves |
| 14:04.33 | Hachiman | And they were once separate organisms of their own before primordial symbiosis happened |
| 14:04.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Back in the day I wanted to grow up and become a veterinary |
| 14:04.50 | ImpyDroid | Dammit ninjad |
| 14:04.53 | OluapPlayer_ | But then I went to the veterinary and watched him open my cat's body |
| 14:04.59 | OluapPlayer_ | The nope was real |
| 14:05.03 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:05.06 | Monet | *your* cat? |
| 14:05.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 14:05.16 | OluapPlayer_ | When she got castrated |
| 14:05.23 | ImpyDroid | She castrated |
| 14:05.28 | Hachiman | I think you mean neutered |
| 14:05.30 | ImpyDroid | You mean neutered right |
| 14:05.37 | Ghelae | Isn't it spayed? |
| 14:05.45 | Monet | Spayed for females |
| 14:05.49 | OluapPlayer_ | You're all spouting words I've never seen before |
| 14:05.59 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of fancy words |
| 14:06.00 | Hachiman | Castration is what happens when you sterilize a male |
| 14:06.16 | ImpyDroid | English was not the most entertaining subject but damn it felt great |
| 14:06.18 | OluapPlayer_ | We use the word castration for both genders |
| 14:06.22 | ImpyDroid | I felt like a genius |
| 14:06.23 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 14:06.40 | Hachiman | ur people r primitiv sort ur language out |
| 14:06.42 | OluapPlayer_ | But basically he opened my cat's abdomen and did something to her ovaries |
| 14:06.45 | ImpyDroid | You can circumcise a female so I guess you could castrate one too |
| 14:06.49 | Ghelae | Castration = cutting off testicles = cannot be done on females. But it's all pedantry since we know what you mean. |
| 14:06.54 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.02 | OluapPlayer_ | I was like |
| 14:07.02 | Ghelae | LIke nobody commented that you called a veterinarian a veterinary. |
| 14:07.07 | OluapPlayer_ | ENTRAILS AND BLOOD OH GOD |
| 14:07.13 | Hachiman | >circumcise a female |
| 14:07.16 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: I was practically homeschooled when I was 10 and 11 |
| 14:07.16 | Hachiman | EXCUSE ME WHAT |
| 14:07.20 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Somalia |
| 14:07.26 | Hachiman | OH GOD NO |
| 14:07.27 | ImpyDroid | Somalis do that |
| 14:07.28 | OluapPlayer_ | I JUST WANTED TO BE NICE TO KITTENS AND PUPPIES |
| 14:07.38 | ImpyDroid | Somalians |
| 14:07.46 | ImpyDroid | Pirate people do it to their wenches |
| 14:07.51 | Hachiman | You're telling me that Somalians... remove the... |
| 14:07.56 | Ghelae | The proper term for that here is "female genital mutilation". |
| 14:07.58 | ImpyDroid | Yes |
| 14:08.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh i've heard of that |
| 14:08.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Barbaric |
| 14:08.06 | ImpyDroid | KEELHAUL THAT FILTHY LANDLUBBER |
| 14:08.09 | Hachiman | I genuinely feel a little sick right now |
| 14:08.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Makes me wish you didn't mention it because it gives me the heeby-jeeboes |
| 14:08.21 | OluapPlayer_ | jeebies even |
| 14:08.33 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Some things are best forgotten entirely |
| 14:09.39 | ImpyDroid | Now I want to make a Somali space pirate girl |
| 14:09.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Now I'm gonna have that on my head all day |
| 14:09.42 | Wormy_ | A lot of science interests I have gathered over the years began when I was quite young really, learning myself |
| 14:09.52 | OluapPlayer_ | with a shredded clitoris |
| 14:09.57 | Hachiman | NO PLEASE STOP |
| 14:10.07 | ImpyDroid | Okay |
| 14:10.16 | OluapPlayer_ | This is the world we live in |
| 14:10.20 | ImpyDroid | Anyway RE in Russia lasts one year |
| 14:10.46 | ImpyDroid | And is separated into several courses focused on one particular religion, or none at all |
| 14:11.18 | ImpyDroid | In the latter case they study secular ethics, humanism and all that |
| 14:11.36 | ImpyDroid | Pupils are free to choose which religion they wish to study further |
| 14:11.41 | OluapPlayer_ | I had to go through RE when my parents wanted me to go through that baptism thing |
| 14:11.46 | OluapPlayer_ | I never finished it |
| 14:11.59 | ImpyDroid | I think we have like six main branches for each main religion in Russia |
| 14:12.09 | ImpyDroid | I am not sure if Catholics have their own course |
| 14:12.20 | OluapPlayer_ | Might not be baptism, might be another name |
| 14:12.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Basically Christian shit |
| 14:12.48 | Ghelae | Nearly everything I know about religion I've learned by my own efforts. As far as I know, the idea of secondary school RE, in this country, is basically to show children "other religions exist, and look, they're not devil-worshippers/child-sacrificers/etc". |
| 14:13.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Other religions were not mentioned in my RE at all |
| 14:13.20 | Hachiman | Well Brazil is a Christian country so |
| 14:13.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Officially it isn't |
| 14:13.31 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 14:13.33 | Ghelae | When was your RE? |
| 14:13.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh I wouldn't remember |
| 14:13.49 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: Eucharist? Confirmation? |
| 14:14.03 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: Aren't you like 99% Catholic tho |
| 14:14.05 | OluapPlayer_ | I think I was around 8 |
| 14:14.09 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm atheist |
| 14:14.18 | ImpyDroid | I mean your country |
| 14:14.20 | Ghelae | From the age of 5 to 11, all of the RE that I was taught was purely Christian. |
| 14:14.32 | ImpyDroid | Right checked |
| 14:14.44 | Hachiman | Like I said, I was taught about Hinduism, Sikhism, and Islam in addition to Christianity |
| 14:14.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Brazil is officially neutral regarding religion |
| 14:15.01 | ImpyDroid | So we have 6 RE courses: Orthodox Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, Secular, and Everyone Else |
| 14:15.04 | OluapPlayer_ | By law you're not allowed to put religious regalia on public institutions, as a way to not favour one religion over others |
| 14:15.10 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.13 | Wormy_ | *I |
| 14:15.15 | OluapPlayer_ | But the population is predominantly Christian |
| 14:15.24 | Hachiman | So like England then |
| 14:15.29 | ImpyDroid | Do you have protestants though |
| 14:15.38 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Aren't you drowning in kebab tho |
| 14:15.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Do I look like I know about religion hur |
| 14:15.55 | ImpyDroid | True that hur |
| 14:16.03 | Hachiman | We are drowning in kebab but public institutions are supposed to be religiously neutral |
| 14:16.12 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't even know protestants are called protestants |
| 14:16.15 | OluapPlayer_ | why* |
| 14:16.24 | Hachiman | Because they protest the Catholic Church |
| 14:16.24 | ImpyDroid | Because they protested |
| 14:16.25 | ImpyDroid | DUH |
| 14:16.33 | OluapPlayer_ | yeh but what are they protesting |
| 14:16.37 | Hachiman | The Church |
| 14:16.40 | ImpyDroid | Because Pope |
| 14:16.50 | OluapPlayer_ | You're so fucking unhelpful JESUS |
| 14:16.55 | OluapPlayer_ | i summon the lord on u |
| 14:16.56 | Wormy_ | I have this odd memory of being taken into a church when I was really young, and looking up at an endless ceiling filled with religious iconography |
| 14:16.59 | Ghelae | Catholics are "yay pope", Protestants are "remove pope". |
| 14:17.08 | Hachiman | Essentially |
| 14:17.12 | OluapPlayer_ | I see |
| 14:17.28 | Hachiman | There is also a big difference in how Catholic and Protestants decorate their churches |
| 14:17.31 | ImpyDroid | And Orthodox are "fuck pope" but basically like pope in most things |
| 14:17.33 | Hachiman | Or rather, one does and one doesn't |
| 14:17.34 | ImpyDroid | Yes that |
| 14:17.36 | OluapPlayer_ | I wouldn't know since I've never seen anyone complain about the Pope |
| 14:18.03 | ImpyDroid | Protestants have retarded small churches, Catholic have epic churches, we have epic churches with GLORIOUS DOMES |
| 14:18.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Even when Palpatine was Pope everyone I know was pretty okay with it |
| 14:18.09 | Hachiman | I think it is Protestants who keep their churches bland and sterile but I cannot recall |
| 14:18.17 | ImpyDroid | Yes they do |
| 14:18.21 | Wormy_ | Imagine being inside the tower of Babel, that kind of image |
| 14:18.43 | Wormy_ | the architecture is designed to give that feeling |
| 14:18.45 | ImpyDroid | They believe fancy churches are a sign of vanity and distract people from God |
| 14:18.59 | Wormy_ | so it probably did that to my mind |
| 14:18.59 | Ghelae | It's more that Protestants don't agree with the position of Pope, rather than hating the person who happens to be the Pope. |
| 14:19.20 | Hachiman | There have been 'evil' Popes in the past |
| 14:19.28 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.87) |
| 14:19.30 | Hachiman | Which is why Protestants do not agree with how much power he has |
| 14:19.39 | OluapPlayer_ | DEUS |
| 14:19.45 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: Protestants are against the Church as an institution in general |
| 14:20.01 | Imperios | They basically believe a large religious authority like it is inherently corrupt |
| 14:20.08 | OluapPlayer_ | I ee |
| 14:20.09 | OluapPlayer_ | see |
| 14:20.34 | Imperios | They also generally want to return to the original ways of Christ |
| 14:20.49 | Imperios | Though that depends on the branch of Protestantism in general |
| 14:20.51 | Ghelae | Anglicans being kind of an exception, as they're like fake Protestants; the Church of England being formed so the king could control it instead. |
| 14:20.57 | Imperios | Pretty much yes |
| 14:21.15 | Hachiman | Fuck Roundheads |
| 14:21.21 | OluapPlayer_ | REX VULT |
| 14:22.13 | Imperios | They also hold the Bible in a much greater regard than Catholics |
| 14:22.20 | Hachiman | Catholics may have undertaken bloody crusades but the Protestants brought England to stagnation when Cromwell came to power |
| 14:22.25 | Imperios | For most Protestants it is like the ONLY Authority |
| 14:22.28 | Imperios | *authority |
| 14:22.36 | Wormy_ | King Henry VIII was a greedy man. He wanted all the food, all the women, and then to be the Pope |
| 14:22.39 | Imperios | Whereas Catholics rely almost as much on the decrees of the Pope |
| 14:23.25 | Monet | I thought Cromwell was catholic |
| 14:23.27 | Imperios | Catholics are awesome tho |
| 14:23.34 | Imperios | Monet: He was Puritan I think |
| 14:23.37 | Imperios | Hence the... Puritanism |
| 14:23.42 | Monet | That makesm roe sense |
| 14:23.43 | Imperios | And the overall crazy zealotry |
| 14:23.45 | Ghelae | Yes, Puritan. Banning Christmas etc. |
| 14:23.45 | Monet | more sense* |
| 14:24.01 | Imperios | Come to think about it Protestants are like the Christian version of Salafi Muslims |
| 14:24.05 | Hachiman | Henry VIII founded the Anglican Church on the basis that he would be allowed to divorce one of his wives while he was disallowed from doing so by the Catholic Church |
| 14:24.21 | OluapPlayer_ | "Henry" |
| 14:24.23 | Hachiman | Or at least, that is what I was taught in school; the situation was probably more complex than that |
| 14:24.27 | Monet | I say good on him for that. |
| 14:24.50 | Monet | He did want a divorce because his wife gave him a daughter, and he wanted a son. |
| 14:24.50 | Hachiman | Yes, King Henry VIII |
| 14:24.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: You know |
| 14:24.58 | OluapPlayer_ | "Henry" |
| 14:25.02 | Hachiman | Oh GOD |
| 14:25.25 | OluapPlayer_ | A religion is a religion, you can't just have half |
| 14:25.30 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:25.43 | Imperios | Monet Hachiman: American Protestants are basically like Salafi Muslims, by-the-book, seeking to return to the original faith, fighting against each other constant, and hateful as fuck |
| 14:25.45 | Hachiman | You're memespouting and no one is gonna get it |
| 14:25.48 | Imperios | *constantly |
| 14:25.59 | OluapPlayer_ | You got it and you're my target public hur |
| 14:26.26 | Monet | Imperios: makes sense |
| 14:26.38 | Imperios | Actually "Salafi" literally translates into "Puritan" |
| 14:26.39 | OluapPlayer_ | That name will forever be associated with interdimensional travel and quotations to me |
| 14:26.44 | Hachiman | hur |
| 14:26.48 | Imperios | So ISIS are the modern Cromwell? |
| 14:26.55 | Hachiman | Makes sense |
| 14:26.56 | Imperios | ^ see I can turn every discussion to ISIS |
| 14:27.00 | Monet | LOL |
| 14:27.04 | OluapPlayer_ | dam u |
| 14:27.08 | OluapPlayer_ | go work on human satrap |
| 14:27.15 | Imperios | Okay anyway |
| 14:27.22 | Hachiman | Well Islam is distantly related to Christianity |
| 14:27.33 | Imperios | Hachiman: Not even so distantly |
| 14:27.48 | Imperios | Like Islam is basically Christianity's slightly nutty nephew |
| 14:27.51 | Imperios | Or cousin |
| 14:27.59 | Imperios | anyway |
| 14:28.00 | Imperios | I wonder if there are Orthodox Christians in Brazil |
| 14:28.00 | Hachiman | What needs to happen is for a Muslim Charles II to arise |
| 14:28.15 | Hachiman | Charles II is probably my favourite English monarch |
| 14:28.17 | Monet | Charles the II was celebrated by all. Except for other Puritans but no one really cares for them. |
| 14:28.29 | Ghelae | "Christian State of England and Ireland" wouldn't have been too crazy a name either. |
| 14:28.50 | Ghelae | "CSEI" isn't as catchy as "ISIS" though. |
| 14:28.59 | Hachiman | CSEI Miami |
| 14:29.01 | Wormy_ | Didn't we have a Queen Jane or someone for three days who was executed for being too kind to peasant folk? |
| 14:29.06 | Monet | Puritans then decided they'd had enough of England being a good country the wrong way and went to America. |
| 14:29.17 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Lady Jane Gray. |
| 14:29.31 | Ghelae | Grey* |
| 14:29.45 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Catedral_Metropolitana_Ortodoxa_03.JPG oooh apparently you have |
| 14:29.47 | Wormy_ | That'll be her |
| 14:29.48 | Imperios | Just look at this |
| 14:29.49 | Imperios | So purty |
| 14:30.00 | Monet | Puritans were the OG for NO FUN ALLOWED. |
| 14:31.31 | Monet | That's a very purdy church. |
| 14:32.02 | Imperios | That I think is one of the two major architectural styles we have in Russian churches |
| 14:32.15 | Imperios | This one is more Byzantine-like |
| 14:32.52 | Imperios | Monet: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Naval_Cathedral_of_St_Nicholas_in_Kronstadt_03.jpg We have Byzantine churches like this |
| 14:33.02 | Imperios | Well pseudo-Byzantine |
| 14:33.18 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8_7.jpg And then there's the more unique Russian style |
| 14:33.21 | Hachiman | Churches can afford to bling themselves up yet cannot afford to pay taxes to the State hmm |
| 14:33.31 | Ghelae | So to correct what I said earlier: Catholics are "yay pope", Anglicans are "yay monarchy", Protestants are "yay bible" except for Puritans who aren't allowed to say "yay", and Orthodox are "yay shiny domed churches". |
| 14:33.49 | Hachiman | I do not get what the Orthodox Christians are actually about |
| 14:33.57 | Imperios | It's a very long story |
| 14:33.59 | Hachiman | Like what separates them from everyone else |
| 14:34.20 | Imperios | Well, the Orthodox Church does not accept the authority of the Pope |
| 14:34.26 | Imperios | That's the main point of contention |
| 14:34.36 | Hachiman | But Protestants also do not accept the Pope |
| 14:34.40 | Imperios | But we were first |
| 14:34.55 | Imperios | And we did not dissolve the clerical hierarchy completely |
| 14:35.14 | Ghelae | The impression I get is that Protestants don't accept the Pope at all, while Orthodox Christians think he just has too much authority. |
| 14:35.38 | Imperios | Basically, when Rome began to grow in power and try to assume primacy over the rest of world churches |
| 14:36.09 | Hachiman | So Orthodox are essentially a blend of Catholic and Protestant philosophies; they do not accept the Pope's authority like the Protestants but are not bland and non-decorative |
| 14:36.16 | Imperios | The religious authorities in the Byzantine Empire were like "FUCK YOU FILTHY EUROPEANS" |
| 14:36.33 | Imperios | Then the Patriarch of Constantinople and the Pope tried to meet and reconcile |
| 14:37.00 | Imperios | They ended up excommunicating each other |
| 14:37.04 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:37.07 | Imperios | And that's how we have two churches |
| 14:37.24 | Hachiman | That sounds so silly hur |
| 14:37.41 | Imperios | Hachiman: Basically: the Catholic Church is a monarchy, the Orthodox Chruch is a separatist oligarchy, and Protestants are anarchists |
| 14:37.45 | Wormy_ | Why do Orthodox churches have domes an that particular colourful architectures? |
| 14:37.56 | Wormy_ | *Russian Orthodox |
| 14:38.11 | Imperios | Wormy_: In Russian tradition in particular, the colour of domes represent the person the church is devoted to |
| 14:38.21 | Imperios | Blue ones are devoted to Mary for example |
| 14:38.28 | Wormy_ | I see |
| 14:39.14 | Wormy_ | So its a bit like those religions where people choose a particular godhead |
| 14:39.15 | Imperios | Hachiman: We basically have an hierarchy similar to Catholics albeit with different names, but with no guy on the top |
| 14:39.37 | Imperios | The Patriarch of Moscow is equal to the Patriarch of Greece |
| 14:40.04 | Imperios | Wormy_: Apparently gold = Christ and God in general |
| 14:40.25 | Imperios | Green = Holy Trinity |
| 14:40.26 | Wormy_ | So that one is devoted to Christ and Mary |
| 14:40.30 | Imperios | Blue = Mary |
| 14:40.31 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 14:40.37 | OluapPlayer_ | http://i.imgur.com/N8Bhqvl.jpg |
| 14:40.40 | Imperios | Grey = Particular saints |
| 14:40.50 | Imperios | And black is for monasteries |
| 14:41.19 | Monet | <Hachiman> Churches can afford to bling themselves up yet cannot afford to pay taxes to the State hmm > Churches are not-for-profit organisations. |
| 14:41.38 | Imperios | Wormy_: Yes, actually one more important thing in Orthodox tradition is the reverence of saints |
| 14:41.44 | Monet | Doesn't stop the loophole getting abused I know. |
| 14:42.13 | Imperios | Religious icons are a BIG thing in all Orthodox churches, especially in Russia |
| 14:42.36 | Monet | Plus fancy churches like what you see in Southern and Eastern Europe are one of the things Martin Luther hated abotu the Catholic Church. |
| 14:42.46 | Imperios | Folk tradition ascribes them supernatural power, they are seen as beacons of divine blessing et cetera |
| 14:42.59 | Imperios | You know how Orthodox icons look like? |
| 14:43.20 | Wormy_ | I don't |
| 14:43.39 | Monet | I recall the phrase "Long ago the crosses were made of gold and the bishops were made of wood. Now it is the crosses that are made of wood and the bishops are made of gold" |
| 14:43.43 | Imperios | I actually have one right next to me |
| 14:43.47 | Imperios | I'll take a photo |
| 14:43.50 | Wormy_ | I see, so those shiny omes can be seen as divine blessing from afar |
| 14:43.55 | Wormy_ | *domes |
| 14:45.08 | Imperios | Nah the domes are not considered to be blessed, the icons are |
| 14:45.40 | Imperios | Though many churches are named after particularily important icons they hold, such as the Kazan Cathedral |
| 14:46.11 | Hachiman | Considering that the UK is becoming more atheist with each passing decade, I sure hope that at least one Prime Minister has the sense to tax religious sites |
| 14:46.23 | Imperios | I think they should be taxed |
| 14:46.27 | Imperios | I mean why wouldn't they |
| 14:46.36 | Imperios | That would be a charitable thing |
| 14:47.21 | Monet | Wel lwhy not all charities then. |
| 14:47.39 | Monet | This is where the idea of taxation gets complicated. |
| 14:48.26 | Hachiman | I would not consider the Church a charity |
| 14:48.56 | Monet | In principle they're not out to make money. |
| 14:49.03 | Wormy_ | I've seen many small churches asking for charity and donations |
| 14:49.19 | Wormy_ | Just to keep going |
| 14:49.29 | Hachiman | Yes, for themselves; not to support other organisations |
| 14:49.46 | Imperios | Hachiman: Holy Kickstarter |
| 14:49.58 | Imperios | Ave Patreon |
| 14:50.10 | Ghelae | They are supposed to do charitable work, in that the money they earn should go into helping people rather than helping themselves earn more money. That doesn't mean all of them do that... as was one of Martin Luther's complaints about Catholicism as mentioned earlier. |
| 14:50.40 | Hachiman | Wait which Martin Luther we talking about |
| 14:51.04 | Imperios | Wormy_: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5r4qoQ8FsV-cVM2Um5vc3drbjQ/view?usp=sharing There you have it, an icon |
| 14:51.07 | Ghelae | The Protestant Reformation one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther |
| 14:51.07 | Imperios | Hachiman: The white one |
| 14:51.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman Technobliterator: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/070/483/b96.png |
| 14:51.52 | Wormy_ | His hands look like they are about to sign "Peace man" |
| 14:52.09 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:52.12 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 14:52.12 | Technobliterator | wtf |
| 14:52.40 | OluapPlayer_ | As written by Ocelot |
| 14:53.04 | Imperios | Wormy_: Well it is an apostle |
| 14:53.10 | Imperios | I guess he would advocate peace |
| 14:53.28 | Monet | Chuches still have to pay maintainence |
| 14:53.41 | Monet | All tose lead tiles people steal aren't cheap. |
| 14:53.50 | Wormy_ | The original hippie-hipster before it was cool. |
| 14:54.23 | Imperios | Wormy_: That's why he was crucified on an X-shaped cross rather than a normal cross |
| 14:54.28 | Hachiman | Wait their lead tiles can be sold for a fortune? |
| 14:54.34 | Hachiman | I know what I'm doing tomorrow night |
| 14:54.52 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 14:54.54 | Imperios | That's Apostle Andrew |
| 14:55.26 | Imperios | He's supposed to be my patron saint I think |
| 14:55.35 | Hachiman | Sounds like you are named after him |
| 14:55.41 | Imperios | Hachiman: Yep |
| 14:55.51 | Wormy_ | I never actually knew Jesus was crucified on an X shaped cross |
| 14:55.58 | Imperios | Wormy_: Jesus was not |
| 14:56.00 | Imperios | Apostle Andrew was |
| 14:56.04 | Wormy_ | Ohhhh |
| 14:56.20 | Imperios | He is also the patron saint of Scotland |
| 14:56.22 | Imperios | Hence the flag |
| 14:56.26 | Hachiman | Satanists and edgelords are dumb for wearing upside-down crosses as well because that is how Saint Peter was crucified |
| 14:56.28 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Martirio_de_San_Andr%C3%A9s,_por_Juan_Correa_de_Vivar.jpg |
| 14:56.47 | Wormy_ | Funny how they used to think the Romans dressed as mediaeval people did. |
| 14:57.11 | Imperios | Probably was meant to make it easier to understand |
| 14:57.11 | Monet | Hachiman: Yeah, it's something of an endemic problem. |
| 14:57.38 | Imperios | People would be like "wtf why they do not wear pants" |
| 14:58.53 | Hachiman | "Daily Mail Readers In Meltdown Over 'Multicultural Thomas The Tank Engine'" |
| 14:59.18 | TekDroid | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1459432145-20160331.png |
| 14:59.24 | Imperios | Hachiman: THEM FUCKING INDIAN RAILWAYS TAKING OUR RAILWAYS |
| 14:59.33 | Imperios | *RAILROADCS |
| 14:59.35 | Imperios | *RAILROADS |
| 14:59.36 | Monet | Thing is sometimes I wodner just how valuable materials like lead are |
| 14:59.36 | Wormy_ | I read that many artists in the middle ages really didn't know how to imagine classical times |
| 15:00.01 | Monet | When you also have thieves tearing off the catalytic converters (found in every single car these days) for the platinum. |
| 15:00.29 | Imperios | Monet: What are you talking about hur |
| 15:00.32 | Imperios | oh wait |
| 15:00.35 | Imperios | I get it now |
| 15:01.23 | Monet | I wonder hwo long it will be before thieves start stealing phones so they can get access to the miniscule amount of gold you can find. |
| 15:01.35 | Monet | Unless of course, that's already happening |
| 15:01.47 | Wormy_ | They would need the right tools to melt it down the seperate the metals |
| 15:02.11 | Imperios | Wormy_; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/%D0%A7%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0.jpg That's one of the more revered icons in Russia for example |
| 15:02.22 | Imperios | It is held in the Kazan Cathedral in Saint-Petersburg |
| 15:02.28 | Wormy_ | very regal |
| 15:02.46 | Wormy_ | Baby Jesus looks like a man |
| 15:03.28 | Hachiman | Monet: Why do you think people get mugged and their phones taken |
| 15:03.42 | Imperios | Wormy_: He looks like Putin |
| 15:03.43 | Monet | Hachiman: SO the phones themselves ca nget sold |
| 15:03.47 | Imperios | Look at the forehead |
| 15:03.55 | Monet | I'm talking about stealing phones for the gold. |
| 15:04.02 | Hachiman | People do that |
| 15:04.07 | Hachiman | Smart people anyway |
| 15:04.09 | Wormy_ | Wow, Putin is a regular pattern in nature |
| 15:04.13 | Monet | Thank you. |
| 15:04.45 | Monet | Didn't need to act like I didn't know phones could get stolen or mugged over. |
| 15:04.48 | Wormy_ | People can steal phones and then sell them to companies which do retrieve gold and other metals |
| 15:05.06 | Imperios | I think the phone itself is worth more than the gold in it |
| 15:05.11 | Wormy_ | That's the easier solution that doing that yourself |
| 15:05.21 | Monet | Imperios: That might be the other point |
| 15:05.27 | Imperios | Wormy_: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Kazansky_s.jpg That's the church itself BTW |
| 15:05.42 | Imperios | Not the most uniquely Russian thing but that's how our city works in general |
| 15:05.53 | Monet | I may have grown up comfortably but that doesn't mean I'm not street-smart. |
| 15:05.54 | Wormy_ | Yeah, extracting gold from the phone is probably more expensive than it;s worth |
| 15:05.55 | Imperios | Monet may also take a look if I did not show it to him already |
| 15:06.00 | Imperios | Actually guys |
| 15:06.21 | Imperios | Do you know any important landmarks in Saint-Petersburg in the UK? |
| 15:06.52 | Wormy_ | Imperios: I went a huge cathedral in Seville, Spain, and I was intrigued by many of the paintings of Jesus which had the symbol of a heart with iron nails |
| 15:06.59 | Hachiman | I was gonna say St. Basil's Cathedral but then that is in Moscow |
| 15:07.09 | Monet | I only really know Peter the Great's palaces. |
| 15:07.11 | Imperios | INFERIOR CAPITAL |
| 15:07.20 | Wormy_ | Same |
| 15:07.25 | Imperios | Oh the Palace Square |
| 15:07.48 | Monet | And I recall one museum has either the original or a replica of the cabin Peter resided in while the city was beign built. |
| 15:07.58 | Wormy_ | What I've learned about Saint-Petersberg mainly comes from you, Imperios. You make it sound like a city of high European culture |
| 15:08.13 | Wormy_ | in many ways |
| 15:08.17 | Imperios | Yeah it is |
| 15:08.24 | Imperios | At least we like to think of it that way |
| 15:08.42 | Monet | I recall that was Peter's intention. |
| 15:09.12 | Hachiman | >European |
| 15:09.13 | Hachiman | >Russian |
| 15:09.40 | Monet | He became obsessed with Europe and after some travelling introduced many European ideas to Russia. |
| 15:09.45 | Imperios | Saint-Petersburg is European yes |
| 15:09.55 | Imperios | Unlike Moscow |
| 15:10.02 | Hachiman | Moscow is Asian? |
| 15:10.23 | Imperios | Well geographically it is European but culturally it is more uniquely Russian |
| 15:10.37 | Imperios | I would hate to live in Moscow though, it is just too big for me |
| 15:10.38 | Monet | I think it was because at the time, Europeans saw Russia as a land of backwards medieval lords and dirt-poor potato farmers. |
| 15:10.49 | Hachiman | Because it was |
| 15:10.56 | Imperios | And it still fucking is hur |
| 15:11.09 | Imperios | Well replace "lords" with "corporate executives" |
| 15:11.12 | Hachiman | I still do not know of any actual true Slavic monarchs |
| 15:11.29 | Hachiman | I did not think there were any after Kievan Rus got settled by Vikings |
| 15:11.43 | Hachiman | Or Kiev or whatever |
| 15:11.57 | Imperios | Kiev existed before Vikings came |
| 15:12.08 | Hachiman | Then yeah, Vikings took over Kiev |
| 15:12.16 | Imperios | They did not |
| 15:12.16 | Monet | Yeah, IIRC Russia was still a rather feudal society while Euroep was changing due t othe Enlightenment project. |
| 15:12.21 | Hachiman | Wait |
| 15:12.24 | Imperios | They were invited |
| 15:12.28 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 15:12.32 | Imperios | Literally invited to act as mediators and military commanders |
| 15:12.37 | Monet | In the late 1600s I mean |
| 15:12.48 | Hachiman | Invited in by the Slavs because they could not rule themselves properly hur |
| 15:12.53 | Imperios | Keep in mind that the role of knyazs in medieval Russia was mostly military |
| 15:12.54 | Imperios | Indeed |
| 15:13.03 | Imperios | That was actually stated in the message to the Vikings |
| 15:13.10 | Imperios | "Our land is great but lacks order, plz come" |
| 15:13.20 | Imperios | There was Novgorod |
| 15:13.36 | Imperios | Probably the only true democratic government in Russia |
| 15:13.46 | Imperios | Ever |
| 15:13.57 | Imperios | It was self-governed and had no Vikings hur |
| 15:14.10 | Wormy_ | That draws many parallels to how the Britons wanted the Romans to return because they ciouldn't govern themselves and feared Saxon invasion |
| 15:14.40 | Imperios | Moscow is pretty terrible TBH |
| 15:14.43 | Wormy_ | Actually no, a Briton king invited the Saxons in, instead to keep out the picts invading from the North |
| 15:14.58 | Imperios | It is very large and businesslike, not to mention the insane traffic |
| 15:15.07 | Imperios | It may literally take hours to get to the workplace |
| 15:15.15 | Monet | You wouldn't like the East Coast then. |
| 15:15.22 | Wormy_ | The Saxons brought all their family over and demanded more and mire land to settle, eventually invading |
| 15:15.30 | Wormy_ | *more |
| 15:15.50 | Imperios | People actualyl purchase tiny flats and parkings closer to their workplace to serve as temporary housings |
| 15:16.00 | Imperios | And only visit their real homes during the weekend |
| 15:16.02 | Imperios | In Mosvcow |
| 15:16.14 | Imperios | Hachiman: Anyway |
| 15:16.30 | Imperios | Actually after like a few generation the Scandinavian element in Russian rulers was minimal |
| 15:16.51 | Hachiman | Like how the Norman Vikings became Frenchmen |
| 15:17.00 | Imperios | You could say that |
| 15:17.17 | Imperios | But there were never that many Scandinavians in Russia |
| 15:17.24 | Hachiman | Except that would be comparing the Franks to the Slavs and that would be insulting to France hur |
| 15:17.27 | Imperios | Unlike your country which is literally like 25% fucking Viking hur |
| 15:17.46 | Hachiman | Wait, being insulting to France is a British past time |
| 15:18.03 | Imperios | Hachiman: I'd agree with you that Slavs suck |
| 15:18.18 | Imperios | But that'd be a bit disrespectful considering I live alongside them |
| 15:18.23 | Monet | I think comparing them to the Slavs is a little too harsh. |
| 15:18.34 | Imperios | ...WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY MONETY |
| 15:18.41 | Imperios | grabs for his axe-gun |
| 15:18.47 | Monet | Then again I like to think of Britain v France as ore of a respectful rivalry. |
| 15:18.51 | Hachiman | Yes, grab for your inferior hybrid weapon |
| 15:19.00 | Imperios | ditches the axe-gun and grabs his AK-51 |
| 15:19.05 | Hachiman | Which does not function as a good axe or a good gun |
| 15:19.16 | Imperios | AK-51 tho |
| 15:19.32 | Hachiman | I like how you live alongside the Slavs and have Korean heritage; could you be anymore disadvantaged hur |
| 15:19.42 | Imperios | 74 even |
| 15:20.07 | Monet | defends himself with his SA-80A2 |
| 15:20.10 | Imperios | Hachiman: >disadvantaged |
| 15:20.18 | Imperios | On the contrary, you always feel smart |
| 15:20.21 | Imperios | We were the second smartest ethnicity in the USSR huh |
| 15:20.31 | Imperios | Smartest as in most educated |
| 15:20.40 | Hachiman | Not smart enough to stop the Japanese from almost conquering your fucking homeland hur |
| 15:21.00 | Imperios | Don't you fucking dare provoke me |
| 15:21.12 | Hachiman | Although |
| 15:21.14 | Imperios | Who of us lost their empire |
| 15:21.19 | Monet | Yes but consider South Korea now looks like it's from fucking 2100. |
| 15:21.20 | Imperios | You or us |
| 15:21.21 | Imperios | See |
| 15:21.30 | Imperios | WE STILL HAVE OUR EMPIRE |
| 15:21.31 | Imperios | FUCK YOU |
| 15:21.53 | Technobliterator | If I didn't know you both better, I'd just issue a warning not to do that : | |
| 15:21.57 | Imperios | UNLIKE YOU |
| 15:21.58 | Monet | We have the Commonwealth of Nations and the British overseas Territories. |
| 15:22.00 | Wormy_ | We still have our grip on the world |
| 15:22.04 | Monet | And the Commonwealth Realm. |
| 15:22.14 | Wormy_ | The Anglo Empire still reigns |
| 15:22.18 | Imperios | Monet: Well we have our own Commonwealth, |
| 15:22.25 | Imperios | We have CIS |
| 15:22.26 | Technobliterator | we have no real influence |
| 15:22.27 | Hachiman | Your empire is a detached Communist kingdom in a mountain region hur |
| 15:22.30 | OluapPlayer_ | All awful human beings in the end |
| 15:22.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Go edit the wiki goddamn hur |
| 15:22.38 | Technobliterator | no one knows Lithuania |
| 15:22.42 | Wormy_ | The US just does everything now |
| 15:22.46 | Imperios | We know Lithuania |
| 15:22.48 | Imperios | We want to nuke it |
| 15:22.52 | Technobliterator | yeah of course you do |
| 15:22.55 | Technobliterator | you took over it |
| 15:22.56 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 15:23.21 | Imperios | Yes we built stuff there and you decided to be Nazis so PLEASE HAVE A NUKE |
| 15:23.42 | Wormy_ | Imperios https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f215_AM5d8s |
| 15:23.51 | Technobliterator | wait, Lithuania was taken over by the Nazis? |
| 15:23.56 | Technobliterator | I do not recall |
| 15:24.45 | Wormy_ | "we have no real influence" |
| 15:24.47 | Wormy_ | Not true at all |
| 15:24.57 | Monet | Wormy_: Maybe she means Lithuania? |
| 15:24.57 | Hachiman | We won't once we leave the EU |
| 15:25.09 | Wormy_ | Maybe |
| 15:25.11 | Imperios | See you leave other groups |
| 15:25.30 | Technobliterator | I did mean Lithuania, indeed |
| 15:25.31 | Hachiman | I dunno where I stand on the matter of the EU honestly |
| 15:25.35 | Imperios | Meanwhile other countries leave *our* groups |
| 15:25.37 | Imperios | SEE |
| 15:25.37 | Wormy_ | One of the reasons the UK follows the US is actually to prop our own goals, not follow theirs |
| 15:25.41 | Imperios | RUSSIA STRONK |
| 15:25.57 | Wormy_ | Apologies |
| 15:26.02 | Technobliterator | I stand nowhere on it. I'm ignoring it completely because I'm sick of hearing about it |
| 15:26.07 | Monet | If the UK had no influence, then I doubt the EU parliament would care about us leaving. |
| 15:26.26 | Hachiman | I do not know enough about the situation to make a comment on it |
| 15:26.42 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't even know what you're all on about |
| 15:26.44 | Hachiman | All I know is that if we leave the EU, we are by technicality exempt from human rights laws |
| 15:26.45 | Wormy_ | Its not actually a good thing I celebrate. The UK inhibits the development of other countries for example |
| 15:26.50 | Technobliterator | I will only take a stance a week before to make a choice |
| 15:26.56 | OluapPlayer_ | Just know these are some hot politics you're mumbling on there |
| 15:27.28 | Technobliterator | yes, leaving the EU means nothing stops the Tories from fucking everyone in the ass |
| 15:27.40 | Monet | Can we please not go here |
| 15:27.59 | Wormy_ | So saying "we have no influence" (which I know Jo isn't) simply is denial to the things our country does which is bad |
| 15:28.16 | Hachiman | Nothing stops the Tories from fucking everyone in the ass anyway hur |
| 15:28.28 | Technobliterator | EU rights laws have prevented them in the past |
| 15:28.38 | Technobliterator | That, and the Liberal Democrats |
| 15:28.53 | Hachiman | Is it possible for Cameron to run for a third election? I certainly hope not |
| 15:28.56 | Technobliterator | For instance, there were laws about data privacy |
| 15:29.04 | Monet | Hachiman: He says he doesn't plan to. |
| 15:29.23 | Technobliterator | These laws were rendered useless by the EU, so the Tories and Lib Dems had to replace them |
| 15:29.31 | Technobliterator | but if you look at the laws it's like |
| 15:29.45 | Technobliterator | it's so obvious where the Lib Dem influence is |
| 15:29.49 | Monet | But unlike the US, no there is no regulation saying a prime minsiter cannot serve for mroe than two terms. |
| 15:29.50 | Imperios | wAIT |
| 15:29.51 | Imperios | Wait |
| 15:29.59 | Imperios | Your politicians can have three terms? |
| 15:30.21 | Technobliterator | The only reason they prevented a president for staying in for more than two terms was because of FDR |
| 15:30.22 | Hachiman | I think by technicality, our politicians can have indefinite terms |
| 15:30.34 | Technobliterator | They were terrified of him |
| 15:30.45 | Technobliterator | and we know with Obama's popularity he'd probably win a third term |
| 15:31.03 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 15:31.20 | Hachiman | Americunts are ungrateful for having their own NHS hur |
| 15:31.23 | Imperios | Actually I wonder if because of me using CAPITALS OFTEN I seem more angry than I actually am |
| 15:31.35 | OluapPlayer_ | It contributes to it |
| 15:31.38 | Hachiman | I thought you were angry all the time |
| 15:31.41 | Technobliterator | Sadly, Obamacare isn't nearly as good as the NHS |
| 15:31.45 | OluapPlayer_ | And the fact you're defense and short-tempered |
| 15:31.48 | OluapPlayer_ | defensive |
| 15:32.08 | Technobliterator | It drains the country, and many people, of a lot of money, because of the insurance companies and the for-proift aspects that still exist |
| 15:32.09 | Hachiman | To be fair, the NHS now is not nearly as good as the NHS was |
| 15:32.15 | Imperios | ...I am? |
| 15:32.16 | Technobliterator | Of course not |
| 15:32.21 | Technobliterator | We have Jeremy Hunt to thank for that |
| 15:32.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 15:32.35 | Imperios | ...Really? |
| 15:32.39 | Monet | Okay did soem checking |
| 15:32.41 | OluapPlayer_ | You have the tendency on go on hour-long rants when people disagree with you |
| 15:32.43 | Technobliterator | a person who has made life literally living hell for everyone I know working in medicine (and I know a lot of people working in medicine) |
| 15:32.48 | Monet | Both Blair and Thatcher were three-term PMs |
| 15:33.01 | Technobliterator | Both Blair and Thatcher |
| 15:33.06 | Technobliterator | the two politicians I hate the most |
| 15:33.08 | Technobliterator | yaaaaaaaay |
| 15:33.09 | OluapPlayer_ | Or had, at least |
| 15:33.09 | Imperios | Now I just feel sad |
| 15:33.16 | OluapPlayer_ | You've not done it recently as far as I remember |
| 15:33.17 | Hachiman | I honestly believe that I would not be alive today if the NHS was not as well-funded as it used to be |
| 15:33.35 | Hachiman | NHS saved me as a wee babby |
| 15:33.46 | OluapPlayer_ | A SHAME I WISH IT HADN'T |
| 15:33.48 | Wormy_ | Not to the mention the severe lacks of beds and nurses in the NHS due to cuts. The fact our hospitals trail about Europe's in terms of technology and disease prevention. |
| 15:34.15 | Monet | Before them, the last prime minsiter to serve mroe than two terms was Robert Banks Jenkinson: 1812-1827. |
| 15:34.24 | Technobliterator | I personally believe they're going to cut it to the point where it begins to genuinely be worse for patients, so they can reveal their epic plan to solve it: privatisation! |
| 15:34.42 | OluapPlayer_ | Seems like health care is bad everywhere then |
| 15:34.46 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer_: I HOPE YOUR MOTHER MOVES YOUR COMPUTER OUT OF YOUR ROOM |
| 15:34.50 | Technobliterator | Not quite, no |
| 15:34.57 | Technobliterator | There are places where healthcare is great |
| 15:35.09 | Wormy_ | A lot of wealthier people go to mainland Europe |
| 15:35.12 | OluapPlayer_ | over here we keep hearing how the supposed best hospitals suffer from overcrowding and lack of supplies and equipment |
| 15:35.13 | Monet | Hachiman: The NHS saved my life as well. |
| 15:35.16 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: A few months later there |
| 15:35.19 | Technobliterator | For instance, in Canada |
| 15:35.24 | Monet | And that was under Blair |
| 15:35.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Canada is an exception since nothing bad ever happens there |
| 15:35.38 | Technobliterator | Lots of Americans used to travel there purely to get things like drugs from Canada |
| 15:35.44 | Technobliterator | Then the government made that illegal |
| 15:35.54 | OluapPlayer_ | late even |
| 15:35.54 | Technobliterator | because private insurance companies were losing money |
| 15:36.02 | Hachiman | Boohoo |
| 15:36.13 | Monet | Money rules congress. |
| 15:36.28 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: What exactly do you mean about rants? |
| 15:36.44 | Technobliterator | Yup, welcome to the land of the corrupt! |
| 15:36.49 | OluapPlayer_ | I mean exactly what I said |
| 15:36.49 | Technobliterator | MAKE MURICA GREAT AGEN |
| 15:36.51 | OluapPlayer_ | You rant |
| 15:37.02 | Monet | Technobliterator: A land you plan to move to. |
| 15:37.03 | OluapPlayer_ | More like the world of the corrupt |
| 15:37.15 | Technobliterator | And? |
| 15:37.16 | OluapPlayer_ | This is the world we live in and it's not going to change |
| 15:37.34 | Imperios | By rant do you mean aggressive ranting and the like |
| 15:37.41 | Imperios | Or just me talking about stuff in general |
| 15:37.49 | Monet | The best we can do is to minimise the problem. Which, really, we do. |
| 15:37.52 | Hachiman | Did not think non-aggressive ranting was a thing |
| 15:38.07 | Imperios | I can rant without being aggressive |
| 15:38.25 | OluapPlayer_ | I would not call you aggressive |
| 15:38.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Like I said you've not done it recently |
| 15:38.38 | OluapPlayer_ | So I can't remember any specific examples |
| 15:38.42 | Technobliterator | Imperios never struck me as aggressive |
| 15:38.47 | Technobliterator | He just struck me as crazy |
| 15:38.49 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 15:38.54 | OluapPlayer_ | You just never shut up hur |
| 15:39.03 | Technobliterator | This is true |
| 15:39.14 | Hachiman | I wonder if I come off as aggressive |
| 15:39.16 | Monet | In countries where corruption is *really* rampant (instead of First Wrold rampant), thigns like state education and healthcare are practically impossible. |
| 15:39.17 | OluapPlayer_ | I may be biased because I'm generally uninterested in what interests you |
| 15:39.19 | Technobliterator | Don't take that the wrong way though, Imp |
| 15:39.20 | Hachiman | Oh wait that's rhetorical because I do |
| 15:39.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes you do |
| 15:39.23 | OluapPlayer_ | All the time |
| 15:39.47 | Hachiman | But I use CAPSLOCK less than Imp hur |
| 15:39.52 | Imperios | FUCKING DIE PLZ |
| 15:39.54 | Technobliterator | Like, sometimes you come across as a sort of mad scientist guy |
| 15:39.59 | OluapPlayer_ | no |
| 15:40.01 | Technobliterator | yeah like there |
| 15:40.03 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 15:40.09 | Technobliterator | but it's not like it's a bad thing |
| 15:40.27 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm generally uninterested in everything people have to say here |
| 15:40.28 | Monet | At least we can live in the knowledge that both the UK and US are not countries where ballot stuffing or "vote for X or bye-bye" is something you hear about. |
| 15:40.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Except when it's about videogames |
| 15:40.37 | Imperios | A bit odd |
| 15:40.38 | Hachiman | And animals |
| 15:40.52 | Monet | And by hear about I mean it generalyl doesn't happen. |
| 15:41.06 | Imperios | Considering I am very distanced from natural sciences |
| 15:41.07 | OluapPlayer_ | I come here to do fiction, not talk about politics or religion or whatever |
| 15:41.11 | Technobliterator | Monet, or where we have a literal authoritarian president who locks you up for saying anything bad about you |
| 15:41.14 | Technobliterator | ie Turkey's president |
| 15:41.21 | Hachiman | But fiction has roots in politics and religion hur |
| 15:41.24 | Imperios | DEATH TO THE TURKROACH |
| 15:41.28 | Technobliterator | he's just so insecure it's actually funny |
| 15:41.29 | Hachiman | REMOVE KEBAB |
| 15:41.29 | Imperios | REMOVE KEBAB |
| 15:41.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Fiction has roots in pages being written |
| 15:41.33 | Hachiman | DEUS VULT |
| 15:41.40 | Imperios | KYRIE ELEISON |
| 15:41.44 | Imperios | RECLAIM CONSTANTINOPLE |
| 15:42.08 | Technobliterator | Pages written |
| 15:42.10 | Hachiman | REMOVE ERDOGAN |
| 15:42.11 | Technobliterator | What is this madness |
| 15:42.16 | Monet | Technobliterator: Yeah. Compared to those places, the UK is a utopia. |
| 15:42.37 | Hachiman | At least Cameron is not an ISIS sympathiser to my knowledge |
| 15:42.39 | Hachiman | I mean he loves pork |
| 15:42.40 | OluapPlayer_ | Erdogan legit sounds like a drug's name |
| 15:42.41 | Technobliterator | Mhm, unquestionably so |
| 15:43.21 | OluapPlayer_ | But yeah unless people are being productive or talking about videogames I tend to wander off because it's all boring and uninteresting to me |
| 15:43.27 | Technobliterator | clearly we need to put politics in the Borealis War remake |
| 15:43.31 | Technobliterator | so Oluap can never escape it |
| 15:43.33 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 15:43.34 | Technobliterator | neveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer |
| 15:43.39 | OluapPlayer_ | You mean so he can cancel it |
| 15:43.41 | Monet | But... |
| 15:43.43 | Technobliterator | aw |
| 15:43.44 | Monet | war is politics. |
| 15:43.52 | OluapPlayer_ | War is explosions |
| 15:43.56 | Technobliterator | nah, the Borealis War was the least political you could get |
| 15:44.05 | Hachiman | Oluap would make a good Michael Bay |
| 15:44.08 | Monet | I guess. |
| 15:44.13 | Technobliterator | it was like |
| 15:44.26 | Technobliterator | fighting evil demons and robots |
| 15:44.30 | Imperios | Oluap is too smart for that |
| 15:44.30 | Monet | "Criminals/demons/evil godbrains bad. Kill them" |
| 15:44.39 | Technobliterator | the only thing close to political was Zaarkhun |
| 15:44.43 | OluapPlayer_ | I mean i'ts not wrong |
| 15:44.45 | Imperios | Oluap makes compelling characters |
| 15:44.55 | Imperios | So he'd be more like |
| 15:44.59 | Imperios | Joss Whedon I guess |
| 15:44.59 | Hachiman | No wonder Oluap likes The Witcher; the main character thinks politics is bullshit and stays away from them hur |
| 15:45.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Geralt is my spirit animal |
| 15:45.19 | Hachiman | Local Witcher says awoo |
| 15:45.23 | OluapPlayer_ | kek |
| 15:45.25 | Technobliterator | given the voter turnouts in countries which do not mandate it |
| 15:45.30 | Technobliterator | that is the same with a lot of people |
| 15:45.53 | Technobliterator | less than half |
| 15:45.55 | Technobliterator | but still a lot |
| 15:46.12 | Monet | Imperios: Joss Wheadon could work. Dude loves killing people off. |
| 15:46.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Can't say I've heard of him |
| 15:46.36 | Hachiman | I remember when Oluap wrote himself into a crisis by killing off so many of his villains |
| 15:46.42 | Monet | He made Avengers and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. |
| 15:46.44 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 15:46.47 | Technobliterator | I remember that |
| 15:46.58 | Technobliterator | Billig is the last Wranploer villain |
| 15:46.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Why are you referring to it as something in the past |
| 15:47.02 | OluapPlayer_ | That's happening right now |
| 15:47.23 | Technobliterator | yeah but you can avert the crisis by doing remakes |
| 15:47.29 | Technobliterator | which is what the Borealis War allows for |
| 15:47.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Reviving character is haram |
| 15:47.39 | Hachiman | But Zoltik |
| 15:47.47 | Hachiman | Oh wait, I forgot, Zoltik's FUCKING INVINCIBLE |
| 15:47.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Also I'm not like these writers who go around killing beloved characters |
| 15:47.58 | Monet | And dead. |
| 15:48.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Only believed char I ever killed was Koluap |
| 15:48.33 | OluapPlayer_ | beloved even |
| 15:48.38 | Monet | Wel ldepends on how you defien beloved. |
| 15:48.41 | Technobliterator | yeah, I only ever kill people no one cares about |
| 15:48.41 | Hachiman | If you know that a beloved character can die, it makes people feel more for them |
| 15:48.44 | Technobliterator | like the Ottzels |
| 15:48.47 | Monet | Does it include "love to hate" characters? |
| 15:49.01 | Technobliterator | and ones people hate |
| 15:49.03 | Technobliterator | like Sollow |
| 15:49.11 | OluapPlayer_ | When I wrote that sentence I was going more for "love to love" |
| 15:49.12 | Hachiman | Nobody loved to hate Sollow |
| 15:49.18 | Hachiman | People just hated him outright hur |
| 15:49.19 | Technobliterator | yes |
| 15:49.23 | Technobliterator | this is true |
| 15:49.30 | Technobliterator | which is why I'm not using him for the remake |
| 15:49.45 | OluapPlayer_ | The villains I killed were, for the most part, secondary characters |
| 15:49.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Volim, Regnatus and Torrent were the only major ones |
| 15:50.02 | Hachiman | You should combine his inspiration of Vamp with Monsoon for over-the-top levels of scrappy |
| 15:50.21 | Hachiman | Sollow - LIKE ME, MEMES CANT DIE |
| 15:50.30 | Technobliterator | I do look back at Sollow and wonder wtf I was doing |
| 15:50.40 | OluapPlayer_ | Actually Jo gave control of Sollow to me in the reboot |
| 15:50.45 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm severely depowering him hur |
| 15:50.56 | Technobliterator | It was either give Oluap control of him, or retcon him out |
| 15:50.58 | Hachiman | Sollow - MEMES HACHI |
| 15:51.06 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.07 | Technobliterator | but it's fine |
| 15:51.09 | Hachiman | Forgot to include *licks sword* |
| 15:51.14 | Technobliterator | because Genrai Nal is still as OP as before |
| 15:51.29 | Technobliterator | in fact, he will probably be more OP to make up for Sollow's depowering |
| 15:51.30 | OluapPlayer_ | That's okay since we all like Genrai |
| 15:51.36 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 15:51.38 | Hachiman | I wonder if Kojima uses The Selfish Gene as fap material; he writes all this shit hur |
| 15:51.42 | OluapPlayer_ | As long as he's not 'too' OP |
| 15:51.59 | Technobliterator | also, Zaarkhun is underpowered in the remake |
| 15:52.04 | Technobliterator | he's no longer completely untouchable |
| 15:52.07 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.09 | Hachiman | Zaarkhun - LITERAL PLOT ARMOUR LOL |
| 15:52.16 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 15:52.19 | Technobliterator | that's scrapped now |
| 15:52.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah we ain't having that |
| 15:52.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Zaarkhun is gonna say out of the front |
| 15:52.31 | Technobliterator | it was awful |
| 15:52.32 | OluapPlayer_ | brb lunch |
| 15:52.33 | Technobliterator | like |
| 15:52.37 | Hachiman | Me and Oluap discussed about Raiden being able to make love to Rose post-cyborg |
| 15:52.41 | Technobliterator | it was really dumb |
| 15:52.55 | Hachiman | We concluded that he must have a vibrator for a dong |
| 15:53.14 | Monet | Hachiman: I think Kojima's more likely to fap to David Bowie and a James Bond film. |
| 15:53.53 | Hachiman | Yeah but loads of people fap to David Bowie and James Bond |
| 15:54.30 | Monet | So? |
| 15:54.31 | Hachiman | I forgot that David Bowie was dead until just now actually |
| 15:54.47 | Hachiman | It feels weird that he is not around anymore |
| 15:56.29 | Hachiman | Also I would probably say that characters like Monsoon and Sundowner do not have working reproductive organs anymore since they became essentially cyber-mercenaries so why would dongs be useful |
| 15:56.42 | Hachiman | Mistral might, on the other hand |
| 15:57.12 | Monet | Doktor's only 80% sure her torso is organic. |
| 15:57.19 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 15:58.08 | Hachiman | I doubt MGR will ever get a sequel now that Konami fucked up the MG license |
| 15:58.15 | Hachiman | And took it away from Kojima |
| 15:59.14 | Imperios | Technobliterator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPuil3xf-C4&index=24&list=FLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg Do you know where is that form? |
| 15:59.15 | Imperios | from? |
| 15:59.20 | Imperios | This looks Metal Gear as fuck |
| 15:59.27 | Imperios | But where from exactly |
| 15:59.27 | Hachiman | MGS |
| 15:59.36 | Imperios | oh wait it is in the comments |
| 15:59.44 | Hachiman | Metal Gear Solid 3 in fact |
| 15:59.45 | Technobliterator | MGS3 ending |
| 15:59.46 | Technobliterator | <3 |
| 16:00.02 | Technobliterator | best ending of all time to the best game of all time] |
| 16:00.57 | Hachiman | At least it had an ending |
| 16:01.09 | OluapPlayer_ | i am return |
| 16:01.21 | Imperios | And now I am in the state of OP |
| 16:01.27 | Imperios | Aka "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT" |
| 16:02.25 | OluapPlayer_ | METAL GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAR |
| 16:03.05 | OluapPlayer_ | MGS3 was dum because the boss was dum hurhurhur |
| 16:04.07 | Technobliterator | ya mom |
| 16:05.48 | Hachiman | How do you feel knowing that the protagonist of your favourite MGS game is actually an inhuman coward |
| 16:09.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Monet (~Monet47@23.120.9.51.dyn.plus.net) |
| 16:09.30 | *** join/#sporewiki OluapPlayer (badafdcd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.218.253.205) |
| 16:09.30 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer] by ChanServ |
| 16:09.34 | OluapPlayer | Great, it's gonna start with this now |
| 16:10.33 | Monet | Hachiman: Before disconnecting I was about to say I read somewhere that there might be a true ending for MGS5, but to get it, every nuke on the onlien servers must be dismantled. |
| 16:10.36 | OluapPlayer | You trashtalk the Boss when Jo is around and she's like http://i.imgur.com/rcJzDrU.jpg |
| 16:10.48 | Monet | So cold a decision, yet so meta. |
| 16:10.51 | OluapPlayer | That's an FOB event, not an end |
| 16:11.01 | OluapPlayer | ing |
| 16:11.05 | Monet | ah |
| 16:11.23 | Monet | atill a meta idea |
| 16:11.28 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 16:15.54 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, this is accuracy |
| 16:15.59 | Technobliterator | accurate* |
| 16:16.14 | Technobliterator | also the ending is there |
| 16:16.45 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/Lwub4Eu.jpg alternatively |
| 16:16.53 | Hachiman | olol |
| 16:17.24 | OluapPlayer | A fun fact, I got a reaction face picture with 299 images in it |
| 16:17.30 | OluapPlayer | *folder |
| 16:17.31 | Monet | Hachi said "at least it had an ending" and I assumed he meant V for some reason |
| 16:17.41 | Hachiman | I did |
| 16:17.47 | OluapPlayer | He did since V's ending was gutted |
| 16:17.51 | Technobliterator | he's just full of salt |
| 16:17.58 | OluapPlayer | The game has no ending |
| 16:18.04 | Technobliterator | MGSV is the best game on PS4 |
| 16:18.23 | OluapPlayer | fits c |
| 16:18.24 | OluapPlayer | PS4 has no games, MGSV has no ending |
| 16:18.42 | Technobliterator | PS4 has plenty of games now |
| 16:18.46 | Technobliterator | and MGSV is the best of them |
| 16:19.06 | OluapPlayer | yeah but they're multiplats |
| 16:19.15 | OluapPlayer | You can't call MGSV a PS4 game |
| 16:19.18 | Technobliterator | oh, it has no good exclusives |
| 16:19.28 | Technobliterator | and will not until this year |
| 16:19.33 | Technobliterator | when Uncharted 4 becomes GOTY |
| 16:19.42 | OluapPlayer | People joke about that a lot but the only interesting exclusive I see in the PS4 is Bloodborne |
| 16:20.06 | Technobliterator | Gran Turismo 7 when it's out will obviously be fun |
| 16:20.25 | Technobliterator | but no, PS4 has no really interesting exclusives |
| 16:20.27 | Technobliterator | Nor does Xbone |
| 16:20.35 | Monet | Exclusives are bad practice anyway |
| 16:21.06 | OluapPlayer | Xbone has Scalebound |
| 16:21.12 | OluapPlayer | I think that's the name at least |
| 16:21.32 | OluapPlayer | The new Platinum game with the giant dragon |
| 16:21.40 | Monet | Really the main draw to a platform exxlusive is to encourage peopel to buy that console. |
| 16:22.05 | OluapPlayer | It is, but some people just can't afford a console |
| 16:22.12 | OluapPlayer | Example: moi |
| 16:22.17 | Technobliterator | Exclusives are absolutely necessary for the platform to survive |
| 16:22.25 | Technobliterator | they are just anti consumer |
| 16:23.02 | OluapPlayer | Meanwhile the Wii U flopped because not only does it have like 3 interesting games, they're all exclusive first party content |
| 16:24.47 | OluapPlayer | It has Super Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2, maybe The Wonderful 101 |
| 16:26.23 | Monet | Consoles were something of an intermediary |
| 16:27.24 | OluapPlayer | Take MGSV for example. You can buy it on any current gen console and even on some past gen ones |
| 16:27.26 | OluapPlayer | Except the Wii U |
| 16:27.27 | Monet | Thing is the only companies that develop consoles could make it on PC. But that would mean Nintendo reed to perform a paradigm shift. |
| 16:27.36 | OluapPlayer | Same for virtually every multiplat release ever |
| 16:28.27 | OluapPlayer | Just bothers me that one of the big gaming companies is so disconnected from reality |
| 16:28.38 | Monet | Sony has a huge line of TVs and multimedia players, and Microsoft holds a near-monopoly on operatinb systems. |
| 16:29.03 | OluapPlayer | Oh yeah, for a company that survives solely on games, Nintendo fares well |
| 16:29.20 | OluapPlayer | But their business decisions are subpar at best |
| 16:29.43 | Monet | I agree, right now Nintendo *needs* console sales. |
| 16:30.23 | OluapPlayer | And one easy way to get people to but your console is if it has games in it |
| 16:30.28 | OluapPlayer | Instead of scaring third party developers away |
| 16:31.22 | Monet | WOuld Nintendo's fear of offering access to third-party devleopers come from the consequence that they'd lose game sales perhaps? |
| 16:31.48 | OluapPlayer | I think it's because they're stuck at the "we're the kid friendly guys" mentality |
| 16:31.58 | OluapPlayer | Remember Nintendo is ran by old business men |
| 16:32.27 | Monet | Which means old ideas on how the market works. |
| 16:33.05 | OluapPlayer | You can't buy the hip new release on the Wii U since it's not released there, there's no reason to own one except for like 5 games you'll only play once |
| 16:33.06 | Monet | old-fashioned, rather |
| 16:33.44 | OluapPlayer | I think it's safe to say my days of Nintendo fanboyism are over hur |
| 16:35.18 | Monet | I think that talk of hip new releases was why I don't pay much attention to Nintendo's conferences. |
| 16:36.10 | Monet | I didn't grow up with Zelda or Samus or Mario, and my experience of Sonic is a passing one, so I'm not really that bothered about Nintendo's new releases. |
| 16:36.47 | OluapPlayer | Even Sonic is starting to get PC ports for his games |
| 16:36.54 | OluapPlayer | You can find a few on Steam |
| 16:38.09 | Monet | Sonic is iffy because he's Sega, not Nintendo |
| 16:39.01 | OluapPlayer | Now they're releasing his games in other platforms again |
| 16:39.39 | Monet | Sega stopped making consoles over a decade ago and I think I'm more familiar with what Sega helped release (Like Total War) rather than what they developed for their consoles. |
| 16:42.41 | TekDroid | One problem with developing for the Wii U is that it's so functional different from those other consoles. Which means a lot more resources needed to be dedicating to making the port and sometimes the mechanics don't translate so well with the usage of the Wii U gamepad for example. |
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| 16:44.40 | Technobliterator | I think it's only a matter of time before consoles as we know it die |
| 16:45.16 | OluapPlayer | Not in the near future, what with the Nintendo NX and the rumoured PS 4.5 coming |
| 16:45.20 | TekDroid | Possibly. |
| 16:46.40 | Monet | Though look at the boom in PC and mobile/tablet gaming |
| 16:46.53 | OluapPlayer | True |
| 16:47.30 | Technobliterator | With PlayStation VR coming to PC and most Xbone exclusives coming to PC, I think they see the writing on the wall |
| 16:48.38 | OluapPlayer | I wouldn't mind PC becoming the standard, but I don't see consoles dying soon |
| 16:48.47 | OluapPlayer | Next decade, maybe, depending of how technology marches on |
| 16:50.26 | Technobliterator | I think what's more likely is that we see things like the Steamboxes actually start to take off |
| 16:50.55 | Technobliterator | or, what I think is most likely, is that cloud gaming takes off, and then we can just play games on Smart TVs, PCs, tablets, whatever |
| 16:51.13 | OluapPlayer | I find Steambox a very dumb concept |
| 16:51.28 | OluapPlayer | If I want to play PC games I'll play them on the PC, not on the living room |
| 16:52.43 | Monet | Cloud gaming isn't great if you don't live in an area with good wi-fi or internet. |
| 16:54.27 | Monet | SteamOS sounds like an attempt at the console market, yeah |
| 16:55.19 | Technobliterator | I think consoles as we know them won't exist in the future, but gaming in front of a screen with a controller is here to stay |
| 16:55.30 | Technobliterator | And presumably, so are PlayStation and Xbox as brands |
| 16:55.38 | Technobliterator | Maybe Nintendo as a publisher if nothing else |
| 16:55.42 | Technobliterator | but they'll remain for now |
| 16:55.47 | Monet | I can't imagine playing something like Civilisation or SimCity with a controller. |
| 16:56.25 | Monet | And I much prefer playing shooters with mouse aiming. |
| 16:57.04 | Technobliterator | Mouse and keyboard will not go away, no |
| 16:57.18 | Technobliterator | I think they're more likely to be replaced with touch input |
| 16:57.32 | Technobliterator | Sims and most RTSes are doing great as tablet games |
| 16:57.33 | OluapPlayer | I can't play shooters with a controller |
| 16:57.42 | Technobliterator | same with non-action RPGs |
| 16:58.27 | TekDroid | I personally find most of the games I do play are predominantly mouse-keyboard. They could work as touch but definitely not controller. |
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| 17:15.14 | Monet | Well, touchschreen technology may become mroe difficult to make as rare-earth metals becoem scarce |
| 17:17.35 | Monet | But that can be resolved with new technologies and materials practices |
| 17:21.40 | Technobliterator | or just reusing them |
| 17:58.02 | Wormy_ | The technologies using rare earths would simply become more expensive as economically viable deposits dwindle. It's not that we could ever run out of such resources in principle but it would require extracting and processing land on a huge scale, which becomes less profitable as a result. |
| 17:59.29 | Wormy_ | However, I predict that space mining might eventually make mines and quarries on the Earth shammer when it comes to rare earth elements and metals, because they are in certain kinds of asteroid and littered on the Moon in great quantities. When it becomes efficient and cheaper to extyract in space, mines for the same elements on Earth will become smaller |
| 17:59.37 | Wormy_ | *smaller |
| 18:00.49 | Wormy_ | Also, the biotech revolution could see entirely new kinds of substance an sk o that might replace electronics with wetware |
| 18:00.57 | Wormy_ | *and so on |
| 18:20.16 | Wormy_ | I'm noticing slang use of the word "proper" is noiw being adopted by |
| 18:20.24 | Wormy_ | many more people |
| 18:20.37 | Wormy_ | As in "That's proper good" |
| 18:21.12 | Wormy_ | I would normally associate that with wannabe gangsters and hoodies |
| 18:21.29 | Imperios | I associate that with Lorond |
| 18:21.31 | Imperios | Lroons |
| 18:21.33 | Imperios | Lorons |
| 18:24.03 | Ghelaway | I just associate that with normal people, because that's how people speak around these parts. |
| 18:27.32 | Wormy_ | Normal way to speak in my parts would be like this: http://www.derbyshireuk.net/dialects.html |
| 18:28.10 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Gimme a name for the script Merovar use to write |
| 18:29.26 | OluapPlayer | I don't know |
| 18:31.12 | Imperios | I'll call it "Taralakh" or something |
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| 19:04.20 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Merovar_Dynasty#Satraps Valley girl satrap |
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| 19:08.08 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 19:08.35 | Xho | bah |
| 19:08.36 | ImpyDroid | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Merovar_Dynasty#Satraps Valley girl Alhassan |
| 19:09.49 | Xho | more dense than a block of lead |
| 19:10.10 | Xho | Although not |
| 19:17.19 | Monet | Back |
| 19:19.03 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: So she pretends to be stupid to fool everyone |
| 19:19.12 | ImpyDroid | ya |
| 19:20.00 | ImpyDroid | The Sultan probably understands her true self a little more I guess |
| 19:21.52 | ImpyDroid | Since he treats her as a useful source of intel |
| 19:24.21 | Hachiman | "I was only pretending to be retarded" |
| 19:26.36 | Imperios | Hachiman: 4chassal |
| 19:26.45 | Imperios | Xho: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/68/Radeon_Argentis_Portrait.png/revision/latest?cb=20100314181823 OHGOD WHAT IS THAT |
| 19:27.16 | Xho | Well you made that thing |
| 19:27.20 | Xho | You tell me |
| 19:28.30 | Monet | Big eyes |
| 19:28.36 | Monet | Looks cute |
| 19:29.18 | Imperios | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ab/Radeon_Ferros.png/revision/latest?cb=20100314181643 This guy looks cool |
| 19:30.16 | Monet | Ratbane |
| 19:30.56 | Monet | Considering how Bane claims to be "born in the darkness", a Raddo version of gim is perfect. |
| 19:34.27 | Imperios | Hm |
| 19:35.02 | Imperios | What if I brought these guys back as Jaharan's followers |
| 19:37.34 | Hachiman | Mafast could be part of their sect after he left |
| 19:37.39 | Hachiman | Ma'fest or whatever |
| 19:40.25 | Imperios | Ma'fest was Jaharan's right hand |
| 19:40.27 | Imperios | yeah |
| 19:52.02 | TekDroid | O.o My dad's work still has systems run by an old Commodore 64. |
| 19:55.51 | Wormy_ | I've heard a lot of servers are still run on those. |
| 19:57.03 | Monet | That or Windows 98. |
| 19:57.15 | Monet | Orp ossibly 95. |
| 19:58.07 | Wormy_ | Lasers could 'cloak Earth from aliens' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35938886 |
| 19:59.33 | Wormy_ | I find it as a practical solution rather silly, but it's a possible constraint to be considered on the search for ET. |
| 20:02.15 | Ghelaptop | It's not the most reliable method, but sure, it works as a fairly rudimentary planetary cloaking device. |
| 20:07.59 | Wormy_ | I meant that we would have to hope any aliens in which Earth was in their light cone history would be cloaked by that point. Plus the question seems open whether it cloaks more than just one region of the EM spectrum |
| 20:17.06 | Wormy_ | Ghelaptop: When you want to be evil, make these cookies. http://imgur.com/gallery/nD3xPPO |
| 20:18.16 | Ghelaptop | Not poisonous. Disappointed. :P |
| 20:19.33 | Wormy_ | I was expecting poison too. But then maybe they force you to eat so many you get theobromine poisoning |
| 20:20.13 | Ghelaptop | Or diabetes. |
| 20:25.08 | Wormy_ | diabeetus |
| 20:27.55 | Wormy_ | Unusual dragon hordes http://imgur.com/gallery/r014u |
| 20:29.32 | Monet | Gold is so cliche. |
| 20:30.08 | Monet | It's pretty, but a hoard of bunny plushies (or bunnies) is just so cozy. |
| 20:30.40 | Ghel | Hoard of Cheese. |
| 20:31.30 | Wormy_ | I like the horde of lizards and snakes |
| 20:32.46 | Wormy_ | hoard |
| 20:35.57 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0e/KicathHead.png/revision/latest?cb=20160331203536 Did a Kicath head in Zbrush |
| 20:37.52 | Xho | Monet: ^ |
| 20:38.39 | Wormy_ | herdingception http://imgur.com/gallery/Ujt1UV0 |
| 20:38.51 | Monet | Xho: Looking very fierce. |
| 20:39.16 | Wormy_ | Dragon hoards part 2 http://imgur.com/gallery/ABfFM |
| 20:40.15 | Monet | Xho: So do Kicath bear their teeth in a neutral pose or is this one particularly furious? |
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| 20:40.38 | Xho | They bear their teeth naturally although that one is snarling |
| 20:48.55 | Monet | Gotcha |
| 20:53.19 | Imperios | Xho: Hm |
| 20:53.45 | Imperios | Aside from corrupt government officials and war criminals which social group deserves a lot of punishment |
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| 20:54.26 | Imperios | Spu: Aside from corrupt government officials and war criminals which social group deserves a lot of punishment |
| 20:55.02 | Wormy_ | This stupid artist is going to make my phobia come true http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/artist-creates-flesh-eating-mushroom-death-suit-1407447/ |
| 20:55.17 | Wormy_ | >breeding mushrooms to consume human flesh |
| 20:55.53 | Wormy_ | If they can grow on the dead, its not such a hop to grow on the living |
| 20:58.25 | Spu | Imperios: ? |
| 20:58.33 | Imperios | Nvm |
| 20:58.57 | Technobliterator | wat |
| 20:59.57 | Imperios | Writing about Jaharan |
| 21:00.19 | Ghel | Wormy_: Surely if that were the case, all of the detritivores and decomposers would have evolved to carnivory hundreds of millions of years ago? |
| 21:00.52 | Wormy_ | Many of them did and do. And this ain't helping |
| 21:01.34 | Ghel | Well I've yet to know of anybody be eaten alive by athlete's foot or a yeast infection. |
| 21:02.29 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:03.09 | Wormy_ | Some people get fungus balls in their lungs |
| 21:03.55 | Wormy_ | I also discovered recently that there is a bracket fungus that can infect people, but doesn't form fruiting bodies on human skin |
| 21:04.13 | Monet | Oh lovely |
| 21:04.20 | Wormy_ | And some people who got a lung infection after kicking puff ball mushrooms about |
| 21:04.32 | Monet | Isn't mucus supposed to trap and kill spores? |
| 21:04.55 | Wormy_ | Most of the time it;s effective, yeah |
| 21:09.47 | Ghel | How do they get fungus balls in their lungs? |
| 21:11.49 | Wormy_ | There's a kind of mold called Aspergillus, that also commonly grows on rotting vegetables. If you have a damaged lung from severe infection, or a compromised immyne system, it can infest the lungs. The body's white blood cells react by seperating the lump of infected lung from the rest of the body |
| 21:14.06 | Wormy_ | They can also infect the sinuses, the kidmeys, the brain, the heart valves and any other cavity |
| 21:15.15 | Wormy_ | I've heard of people getting dangerous fungual infections in the rainforest |
| 21:15.38 | Wormy_ | However its not fungal infection per see that I find triggering |
| 21:15.41 | Ghel | So you either need to kick a fruiting mushroom so that its spore enter your lungs, or you have to eat rotting vegetables while already immunocompromised, or you have to go to a place with high humidity and everything trying to kill you already. |
| 21:15.47 | Ghel | spores* |
| 21:16.00 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 21:17.13 | Wormy_ | It's the fruiting bodies themselves converting and invading whatever substrate they are growing on |
| 21:17.22 | Wormy_ | So I don't like pictures of cordyceps |
| 21:19.13 | Wormy_ | I find this to be the most digusting thing in all of nature http://www.mycolog.com/4b_Cordyceps_minuta_plus_Isaria1.jpg |
| 21:20.43 | Wormy_ | It may not be possible for that to happen on living humans, for fungus to form fruiting bodies, for any of the existing species |
| 21:21.16 | Wormy_ | Maybe how immune systems don't let the fungus get that far. Maybe fruiting bodies need a still environment |
| 21:21.22 | Wormy_ | *our |
| 21:22.47 | Ghel | Given that immunocompromised individuals seem to be most susceptible to fungal lung infections, the immune system is probably the main reason. |
| 21:23.16 | Ghel | But most fruiting bodies would probably struggle to fit inside the alveoli. |
| 21:23.49 | Imperios | Spu Hachiman: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/85/Victory_at_Any_Cost.png/revision/latest?cb=20160331212336 |
| 21:23.53 | Imperios | OluapPlayer too |
| 21:28.34 | OluapPlayer | wat dat |
| 21:29.42 | Imperios | Clericarch Donald Trump's followers |
| 21:30.31 | Monet | SIEG HEIL! |
| 21:30.57 | Technobliterator | meh |
| 21:31.02 | Imperios | Also http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Jaharan_ae-Zamarros More trump |
| 21:31.02 | Technobliterator | your character isn't that much like Trump |
| 21:31.22 | Imperios | He is based on bigoted populists in general |
| 21:32.05 | Imperios | He's an expression of my belief that all populist groups based on an "us or them" mentality - racial or religious - are all ultimately similar |
| 21:32.51 | Imperios | Whether they be Nazis, Islamists, Golden Dawn, or Trump supporters |
| 21:33.01 | Imperios | The only difference is the categories they choose and how bad they are |
| 21:33.24 | Imperios | Also plz read the last part of his biography |
| 21:33.26 | Imperios | That is written that is |
| 21:33.50 | Hachiman | He got a small loan of a million credits from his father |
| 21:34.24 | Hachiman | Nice pic as well |
| 21:34.29 | Hachiman | Good atmosphere |
| 21:35.00 | Imperios | Also this http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7b/Praying_Pilgrim.png/revision/latest?cb=20160331212427 |
| 21:35.07 | Imperios | reed plz |
| 21:37.17 | Monet | Cant's quite recognise those creatures |
| 21:37.59 | Imperios | Also this |
| 21:37.59 | Imperios | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cd/Fires_of_the_Crusade.png/revision/latest?cb=20160331213002 |
| 21:38.41 | Hachiman | That dancing figure |
| 21:39.13 | Imperios | That guy is literally being blasted off the by the attack |
| 21:46.15 | Imperios | Actually |
| 21:46.28 | Imperios | What important powers were there in the 24th century for Jaharan to have attempted to rek |
| 21:48.01 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cd/Fires_of_the_Crusade.png/revision/latest?cb=20160331214737 Loooks betters? |
| 21:48.04 | Imperios | *Looks better? |
| 21:49.04 | Hachiman | Looks better yeah |
| 21:49.37 | Imperios | gud |
| 21:53.50 | Imperios | So yeah whom could Jaharan rek |
| 21:54.28 | Imperios | I can imagine them trying to claim former Ernai territory as their own thus having a few spats with Spinkers |
| 21:55.51 | Hachiman | Oluap is being chased by soldiers right now |
| 21:55.59 | Hachiman | So you'll have to wait a minute |
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| 21:57.21 | Hachiman | Hi |
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| 21:58.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Radeons are a little too advanced to fight the Spinkers |
| 21:59.28 | Technobliterator | you could make a race |
| 21:59.30 | Ghel | I can imagine them spreading out their forces a lot. Sending only a few dreadnoughts against relatively primitive civilisations. |
| 21:59.34 | Technobliterator | or retcon a race you dont want anymore |
| 22:00.40 | Ghel | I reckon they could have caused a lot of damage to Girdo with one ship. |
| 22:02.28 | Imperios | What Ghel said yeah |
| 22:03.59 | Imperios | + at that point they were basically tier 3 or something |
| 22:04.02 | Wormy_ | they deserve proper punishment https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-reconsider-andrew-and-daniel-frankish-s-prison-sentences-for-animal-cruelty-charges?recruiter=46065894&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-custom_msg&fb_ref=Default |
| 22:04.03 | Imperios | or low tier 2 dunno |
| 22:04.14 | Imperios | Spu: Gib opinion on page plz |
| 22:04.48 | OluapPlayer_ | I guess |
| 22:04.56 | OluapPlayer_ | But how is that gonna affect the current day? |
| 22:05.14 | Spu | When I have more energy to read it I'll give an opinion |
| 22:05.18 | Imperios | I don't think it would affect it much, though in later stories someone could mention it |
| 22:05.45 | Imperios | The whole reason for me expanding on Jaharan is because I want to give a real reason for the whole "NOBODY likes the worshippers of Spode" thing |
| 22:06.12 | Imperios | I think back in the day because of our in-game experiences we kind of took it as granted, but if we are ever going to do the War of Ages, it will need an explanation |
| 22:07.59 | Imperios | Also someone could bring that up in one story or another |
| 22:08.09 | Imperios | "WHY DID YOU KILL 6 GORILLION HUMANS" |
| 22:10.55 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah but Spinkers are antitheistic and don't forget easily |
| 22:11.03 | OluapPlayer_ | This is gonna cause some anti-Radeon sentiment in their people |
| 22:11.28 | Imperios | Wasn't there always |
| 22:11.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Not really |
| 22:12.30 | Imperios | Yeah I imagine it would cause a lot of anti-Radeon sentiment |
| 22:15.06 | Imperios | I actually imagine that Telfar pretty much dedicated his entire life to clearing the Radeon image |
| 22:15.24 | Wormy_ | Fuck these cunts to death for all I care http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/30/petition-to-change-appalling-dog-abusers-sentence-after-pair-are-spared-jail-5783929/ |
| 22:15.57 | Wormy_ | they are getting a slap on wrist for sadisrtically murdering a dog |
| 22:16.45 | Imperios | Wormy_: Jaharan's Church could also get into a few spats with the DCP |
| 22:16.54 | Wormy_ | Yes, sure |
| 22:19.00 | Imperios | I am still not sure if I should make him try to invade Earth |
| 22:19.25 | Wormy_ | http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/30/man-gets-high-strips-naked-cries-for-mummy-then-tries-to-steal-a-police-car-5785494/ |
| 22:19.39 | Wormy_ | Essex in a nutshell |
| 22:19.46 | Wormy_ | Bet he had orange tanlines |
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| 22:24.46 | Wormy_ | http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/29/jesus-falls-off-cross-during-easter-crucifixion-show-5782735/ |
| 22:25.56 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/30/you-can-now-buy-beer-created-with-the-essence-of-vaginas-5784199/ |
| 22:26.25 | Hachiman | No thanks |
| 22:27.32 | Wormy_ | One beer I on't try. |
| 22:27.34 | Wormy_ | *won't |
| 22:52.03 | Technobliterator | The_Randomness, Hachiman, http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/9/9d/DNC_Donald_Kefka_Trump.png/revision/latest?cb=20160331222950 meet your next president |
| 22:52.14 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 22:52.18 | Hachiman | But why |
| 22:52.25 | Technobliterator | we're doing it as an April Fools thingy |
| 22:52.35 | OluapPlayer | Oh god |
| 22:54.05 | OluapPlayer | I was gonna make a Trump version of Kefka's dialog but I don't actually know enough of Trump to come up with something |
| 22:54.10 | OluapPlayer | Other than he hates immigrants |
| 22:54.18 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Mexicans... Democrsts... hope... Where do they come from? And where do they go...? Such meaningless things... I'll destroy them all! |
| 22:54.20 | ImpyDroid | oopps |
| 22:54.34 | OluapPlayer | Oh there it is |
| 22:54.45 | ImpyDroid | Democrats... Mexicans... Muslims... Where do they come from? And where do they go...? Such meaningless people... I'll destroy them all! |
| 22:54.53 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 22:55.00 | Hachiman | I didn't know you knew about Kefka's dialogue hur |
| 22:55.08 | Hachiman | I thought you were oblivious to everything about FF |
| 22:55.17 | OluapPlayer | Kefka is kind of a major gaming icon |
| 22:55.18 | ImpyDroid | I know a few characters |
| 22:55.20 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, I came up with this for it, but it's a wiki joke: |
| 22:55.24 | ImpyDroid | I think I know like five of them |
| 22:55.28 | Technobliterator | "When Wikia sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing spam, they're bringing page blanking. They're vandals. And some, I assume, are good editors." |
| 22:55.32 | ImpyDroid | The clown god person |
| 22:55.47 | The_Randomness | lel |
| 22:55.48 | ImpyDroid | His enemy which was the hero and I think she was some sort of elemental |
| 22:56.07 | ImpyDroid | The emo bishonen angel thing |
| 22:56.09 | OluapPlayer | I know basically Cloud and Sephiroth because they are in Kingdom Hearts, Tifa because she's got big tits and Kefka because of his boss theme |
| 22:56.25 | ImpyDroid | Jenova because stupid name |
| 22:56.34 | ImpyDroid | And that Vader guy |
| 22:56.39 | Technobliterator | You played Kingdom Hearts? :o |
| 22:56.40 | ImpyDroid | Golbez right? |
| 22:56.43 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 22:56.49 | OluapPlayer | The GBA one yeah |
| 22:56.51 | Technobliterator | ahhh |
| 22:56.54 | OluapPlayer | Chain of Memories |
| 22:56.55 | ImpyDroid | Oh and they all ride ostriches for some reason |
| 22:56.58 | Technobliterator | I was going to ask how you played KH |
| 22:57.01 | Hachiman | Chocobos |
| 22:57.05 | Technobliterator | since they were on PS2 |
| 22:57.06 | ImpyDroid | They also have some sort of gun blades |
| 22:57.07 | OluapPlayer | Bobobos |
| 22:57.12 | ImpyDroid | Or keyblades |
| 22:57.15 | ImpyDroid | Or botg |
| 22:57.18 | ImpyDroid | Or keyguns |
| 22:57.41 | ImpyDroid | And when they are not riding ostriches they ride FUCKING ZEPPELINS |
| 22:57.43 | Hachiman | Kingdom Hearts has keyblades, Final Fantasy has gunblades |
| 22:57.46 | ImpyDroid | Right |
| 22:58.08 | Technobliterator | well |
| 22:58.12 | Technobliterator | only two of them have gunblades |
| 22:58.18 | Technobliterator | but they're impractical enough to be iconic |
| 22:58.26 | ImpyDroid | So emo blonde guy, his goddess girlfriend with a retarded name |
| 22:58.48 | ImpyDroid | An elemental lady, a magic steam punk Hitler, his clown Donald Trump slave guy |
| 22:58.53 | ImpyDroid | And Golbez |
| 22:59.01 | ImpyDroid | And Ostriches |
| 22:59.05 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 22:59.11 | ImpyDroid | Behold my knowledge of Final Fantasy |
| 22:59.27 | Technobliterator | very few of these things exist within the same universe |
| 22:59.46 | Technobliterator | magic steam punk Hitler and clown Donald Trump do |
| 23:00.04 | Technobliterator | but each game has a completely different setting with different characters |
| 23:00.08 | ImpyDroid | Actually yes I wanted to ask you how the hell the FF games are connected |
| 23:00.16 | Technobliterator | They're not, basically |
| 23:00.19 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 23:00.20 | ImpyDroid | Like the angel guy comes from a sci-fi setting right |
| 23:00.27 | Technobliterator | They share themes, they share Chocobos, and that's it |
| 23:00.33 | OluapPlayer | The games are all self-contained |
| 23:00.34 | Hachiman | I wish we could do the Final Fantasy method of storytelling and worldbuilding |
| 23:00.40 | ImpyDroid | I mean you said something about his stupid name girlfriend's ggames |
| 23:00.45 | Technobliterator | FFXI is not a sequel to FFX, but FFX-2 is |
| 23:00.47 | ImpyDroid | Genes even |
| 23:00.57 | Hachiman | The only thing that connects the games together is Dissidia |
| 23:01.02 | ImpyDroid | Right |
| 23:01.05 | Hachiman | And Gilgamesh |
| 23:01.14 | Technobliterator | That, and the randum spinoffs like Theathrythm and Record Keeper |
| 23:01.17 | ImpyDroid | So I know that Hitler, Trump and elemental lady is one game |
| 23:01.21 | Technobliterator | but Dissidia is the only one of those with an actual story |
| 23:01.25 | Spu | âI am not taking cards of the table. Iâm not going not use nukes. But Iâm not taking any cards of the table.â - Trump about nuking Europe |
| 23:01.28 | ImpyDroid | Emo angel boy and retarded name girlfriend is another |
| 23:01.29 | Technobliterator | Elemental lady? |
| 23:01.30 | Technobliterator | You mean Terra? |
| 23:01.33 | ImpyDroid | yes |
| 23:01.34 | Spu | Alright I'm genuinely frightened |
| 23:01.34 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 23:01.47 | ImpyDroid | Actually I know the plot of that game |
| 23:01.48 | OluapPlayer | World War III go |
| 23:01.54 | Technobliterator | who do you mean retarded name girlfriend |
| 23:01.55 | Technobliterator | Aerith? |
| 23:01.56 | OluapPlayer | Make America a colony again |
| 23:01.59 | ImpyDroid | No |
| 23:02.01 | ImpyDroid | Jenova |
| 23:02.06 | ImpyDroid | WHAT KIND OF FUCKING NAME IS THAT |
| 23:02.11 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 23:02.15 | Hachiman | Jenova is Sephiroth's mom |
| 23:02.15 | Technobliterator | that's not Cloud's girlfriend |
| 23:02.20 | Technobliterator | nor is Aerith but |
| 23:02.22 | Technobliterator | You're close! |
| 23:02.23 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 23:02.47 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I was under the impression she was his lover |
| 23:02.55 | Technobliterator | pft |
| 23:03.02 | ImpyDroid | Actually I think I know the story of the trump game |
| 23:03.06 | Technobliterator | FFVI? |
| 23:03.14 | Technobliterator | alright, shoot, I'll grade you |
| 23:03.16 | ImpyDroid | Space Hitler uses some magic gods to get magic people |
| 23:03.29 | ImpyDroid | Hunts down other magic people |
| 23:03.35 | ImpyDroid | That includes elemental lady |
| 23:03.47 | ImpyDroid | Elemental lady becomes revolutionary and fights magic Hitler |
| 23:04.07 | ImpyDroid | Trump usurps Hitler eats the magic gods |
| 23:04.16 | ImpyDroid | And becomes President Trump |
| 23:04.21 | ImpyDroid | Then he is like YOU ARE FIRES |
| 23:04.24 | ImpyDroid | *FIRED |
| 23:04.26 | ImpyDroid | On everurhing |
| 23:04.33 | ImpyDroid | As in sets everything on fire |
| 23:04.35 | OluapPlayer | Too many real life analogies going on here |
| 23:04.38 | OluapPlayer | I'm completely lost |
| 23:04.40 | ImpyDroid | Then we kill him |
| 23:04.47 | ImpyDroid | Did I get everything right |
| 23:05.11 | Hachiman | You missed the part where a guy suplexes a train |
| 23:05.11 | Technobliterator | Well, you didn't complete the story, but |
| 23:05.17 | Technobliterator | I'm gonna give you a B |
| 23:05.19 | Technobliterator | that was impressive |
| 23:05.39 | Spu | halp |
| 23:05.41 | Technobliterator | Incorrect thing is the start, because Emperor Gestahl actually just used Magitek |
| 23:05.46 | Technobliterator | he didn't get magic people |
| 23:05.52 | ImpyDroid | Right |
| 23:06.09 | Technobliterator | Terra is a half-esper (spoilers for 20 year old game lol), which is why she can use magic |
| 23:06.16 | Technobliterator | but yeah |
| 23:06.21 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: wtf spoilers |
| 23:06.26 | The_Randomness | you've ruined it for me |
| 23:06.27 | Technobliterator | AERITH DIES |
| 23:06.28 | The_Randomness | QQ |
| 23:06.39 | The_Randomness | SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE |
| 23:06.43 | The_Randomness | oh wait, wrong series |
| 23:06.58 | The_Randomness | uhhhhhh |
| 23:07.01 | Hachiman | VADER IS LUKE'S FATHER |
| 23:07.04 | ImpyDroid | LIKE I AM YOUR FATHER |
| 23:07.09 | ImpyDroid | FUCKING NINJA |
| 23:07.15 | Spu | You really have been playing Sims for a long time when you remember the original money cheat code in the first Sims game was klapaucius and not rosebud |
| 23:07.16 | Technobliterator | are Hachi and Imp the new hivemind |
| 23:07.17 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/241Z0z9.jpg we'll make GOLD out of their ashes |
| 23:07.24 | The_Randomness | I was tempted to spoil something from FFXIV, but I won't |
| 23:07.26 | Technobliterator | oh wooooooooooow |
| 23:07.27 | ImpyDroid | We have always been a hive mind |
| 23:07.27 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 23:07.40 | Technobliterator | oh, another spoiler |
| 23:07.42 | Technobliterator | TIDUS IS A DREAM |
| 23:07.48 | ImpyDroid | There was a point that we were like inseparable |
| 23:07.50 | Hachiman | AAAA HAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:07.54 | Technobliterator | ._. |
| 23:07.58 | OluapPlayer | HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW |
| 23:08.04 | OluapPlayer | There was |
| 23:08.04 | Technobliterator | I'm glad I get to be the know it all on this series |
| 23:08.06 | Technobliterator | it's like |
| 23:08.09 | ImpyDroid | XA XA XA XA XA XA XA |
| 23:08.10 | Technobliterator | the one thing I can be a know it all about |
| 23:08.13 | OluapPlayer | Now all you do is bicker like children |
| 23:08.27 | Spu | ya cunts |
| 23:08.38 | ImpyDroid | We no longer write lesbian stories about Javina and Khadya |
| 23:08.45 | ImpyDroid | That strained our relationship somewhat |
| 23:09.04 | OluapPlayer | yes, now me and him write lesbian stories about Khadya and Alles |
| 23:09.18 | ImpyDroid | Also no Latar on Hachi BDSM |
| 23:09.22 | ImpyDroid | HE PROMISED ME |
| 23:09.36 | Spu | Longinus - back to the sea |
| 23:09.38 | OluapPlayer | ew she's like a stag |
| 23:09.39 | Technobliterator | why does fiction feel so slow |
| 23:09.43 | Technobliterator | oh I know why |
| 23:09.43 | Technobliterator | RECKONING |
| 23:09.48 | OluapPlayer | Because no one is editing |
| 23:09.50 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Hachi is like a bunny |
| 23:10.02 | OluapPlayer | Hachi's a boy with bunny ears |
| 23:10.03 | Technobliterator | alright |
| 23:10.11 | Technobliterator | shall we just finish the Borealis front? |
| 23:10.16 | OluapPlayer | If you want |
| 23:10.18 | Technobliterator | And just leave the other fronts open to be finished whenever? |
| 23:10.21 | ImpyDroid | Latar is mostly a girl with deer features too |
| 23:10.33 | OluapPlayer | Not on my eyes she isn't hur |
| 23:10.44 | Spu | "Remember, if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing." Huh well that puts things into perspective |
| 23:10.47 | ImpyDroid | She looks more humanoid than Hachi even |
| 23:10.52 | Hachiman | It's true |
| 23:11.02 | Hachiman | Also what the fuck why BDSM hur |
| 23:11.02 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 23:11.15 | Hachiman | Not that I'm complaining but still |
| 23:11.19 | ImpyDroid | IT WAS YOUR IDEA |
| 23:11.30 | OluapPlayer | Clothovera - bitch r u cheetin on me with a horned horse |
| 23:11.57 | Hachiman | Mikko - eyy dont worry bout a thing baby mama |
| 23:11.57 | ImpyDroid | I WAS PROMISED DEER FEMDOM |
| 23:12.00 | ImpyDroid | TRAITOR |
| 23:12.23 | OluapPlayer | Black man Mikko is still the wiki's magnum opus |
| 23:12.27 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:12.34 | ImpyDroid | hur definitely |
| 23:13.03 | ImpyDroid | I still need to write about the Prophet Stone |
| 23:13.07 | Monet | headbutts in fro mthe other side of a brick wall. |
| 23:13.12 | Spu | https://www.facebook.com/strongandfunnyday/videos/1591228491205539/ SporeWiki's supersoldiers |
| 23:14.06 | ImpyDroid | Also I should convince Charles_Murray to make the PAE's minister of diplomacy, which he asked us to be French, to be a sexy Arab girl |
| 23:14.17 | OluapPlayer | Prophet Stone has been inactive for so long I forgot it existed |
| 23:14.22 | OluapPlayer | And I used to bag you about it |
| 23:14.26 | ImpyDroid | pretty Arab Lebanese Maronite girl even |
| 23:14.36 | OluapPlayer | nag even |
| 23:14.47 | Spu | The Nag Bag, by OluapPlayer |
| 23:14.51 | Spu | 2013 - |
| 23:15.00 | Hachiman | GET IN THE BAG |
| 23:15.03 | OluapPlayer | Mortium - GET IN THE BAG NOW NOW NOW NOW |
| 23:15.22 | Spu | Now I just imagine Mortium going around asphyxiating people with a plastic bag |
| 23:15.36 | Hachiman | Where is the whole "get in the bag" thing from hur |
| 23:15.39 | OluapPlayer | Mortium - they don't struggle as much with the scythe |
| 23:15.44 | OluapPlayer | It comes from /tg/] |
| 23:15.58 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 23:16.01 | ImpyDroid | Yes remind Charles_Murray when he gets here |
| 23:16.06 | Hachiman | That's my home board and I don't know a thing about it |
| 23:16.35 | OluapPlayer | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/803/942/a4d.jpg here |
| 23:16.36 | Spu | Okay well at least I haven't descended into 4chan yet |
| 23:16.43 | ImpyDroid | Ask him if it is okay for PAE's Minister of Diplomacy to be a sexy Lebanese Maronite Arab lady |
| 23:17.03 | OluapPlayer | 4chan is not a bad place |
| 23:17.07 | OluapPlayer | It just has bad parts |
| 23:17.12 | Monet | Like /b/ |
| 23:17.12 | OluapPlayer | Just like every forum ever |
| 23:17.25 | ImpyDroid | Such as /pol/ |
| 23:17.36 | OluapPlayer | We've been through this already |
| 23:18.10 | ImpyDroid | The /pol/acks are ridiculously easy to provoke |
| 23:18.26 | OluapPlayer | "YOU DIED OF HAVING A SHITTY DICK" gets me everytime |
| 23:18.41 | ImpyDroid | I literally posted an advanced-looking realistic African tribal mask |
| 23:18.46 | ImpyDroid | They threw a fit hur |
| 23:18.49 | Spu | What about /r9k/ |
| 23:19.30 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.55 | ImpyDroid | I bet you are surprised that Africans had realistic art and sculpture hur |
| 23:20.11 | OluapPlayer | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.19 | Spu | lul c u there |
| 23:20.20 | Hachiman | It's not realistic because it's not stealing anything in that picture |
| 23:20.28 | OluapPlayer | I don't visit that place |
| 23:21.05 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: Check origin of the bag u dingus |
| 23:21.12 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: She has already stolen everything |
| 23:21.20 | ImpyDroid | That is why there is nothing else on the table |
| 23:21.24 | ImpyDroid | See, realistic mask |
| 23:21.36 | Monet | :Art: |
| 23:21.43 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: UP THE SHUT FUCK. BAG. |
| 23:23.06 | Hachiman | NOW COME WITH ME AND YOU'LL SEE A WORLD OF PURE IMAGINATION IN THE FUCKING BAG |
| 23:30.16 | OluapPlayer | Less than 50 edits all day |
| 23:30.19 | OluapPlayer | Horridly slow day |
| 23:31.34 | Spu | yes |
| 23:33.54 | Monet | Jarharan's progress looks very good. |
| 23:37.21 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: I wonder if Purity's Apogee could essentially be considered a city-state in its own right due to its size and whatnot and if so, how its districts are divided and whatnot |
| 23:37.50 | Technobliterator | brb switch to laptop |
| 23:38.10 | Hachiman | Like, I imagine Purity's Apogee being very large |
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| 23:39.27 | OluapPlayer | Doesn't that defeat its purpose of capital of an empire? |
| 23:40.03 | Monet | Not neccesserily |
| 23:40.43 | Hachiman | Well I mean, it's a capital that is the size of a glorified city-state |
| 23:41.04 | Monet | That's not really how city-states work. |
| 23:41.18 | Hachiman | Well I meant |
| 23:41.19 | Hachiman | Gah |
| 23:41.33 | Monet | A sprawling metropolis I get |
| 23:41.37 | Monet | ssprawling* |
| 23:41.39 | Hachiman | Yeah, a metropolis |
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| 23:43.12 | Monet | Cities as massive as London or New York used to be several settlements that grew into each other. |
| 23:43.42 | Monet | It happened with Tokyo as well I think. |
| 23:44.25 | Hachiman | I still wonder how Purity's Apogee's districts would be divided |
| 23:44.32 | Hachiman | It's kind of important for a thing I have in mind |
| 23:44.51 | OluapPlayer | Elf District, More Elf District, Goddamn Knife-ears Everywhere District |
| 23:45.05 | Hachiman | As named by dwarfs |
| 23:45.50 | Monet | Well if Purity's Apogee is a conurbation (if you want ot go in that direction), then the districts would be named and designated after the villages they used to be. |
| 23:46.14 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 23:46.19 | Hachiman | It could have been a conurbation |
| 23:46.23 | Hachiman | Or is a conurbation |
| 23:48.21 | Hachiman | Also Rhine-Ruhr is fucking huge |
| 23:49.01 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: wake up u i need opinions |
| 23:49.05 | Hachiman | op onions |
| 23:51.56 | OluapPlayer | WAT |
| 23:51.58 | OluapPlayer | R YE DOIN |
