| 00:00.33 | dino82_ | how areyou doing Liquid? |
| 00:01.21 | Liquid_Ink | I'm doing pretty well. How about you? |
| 00:16.22 | dino82_ | Great to hear! Me as well thanks :D |
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| 00:45.18 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 00:45.30 | TheDinoHunter | Hello |
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| 01:13.20 | Cyrannian | Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Belh%C3%A2tar - hur I don't remember these guys, did you have any plans for them? |
| 01:13.41 | Hachiman | I didn't |
| 01:13.45 | Hachiman | Feel free to delete their page |
| 01:14.04 | Hachiman | I planned them as essentially warrior triceratops guys |
| 01:14.16 | Hachiman | With tribalistic culture and stuff |
| 01:14.32 | Cyrannian | I could use them for stuff if you don't want them, they look very impressive |
| 01:14.57 | Hachiman | Can do if you want to |
| 01:15.03 | Hachiman | Feel free to replace the model though |
| 01:19.36 | Cyrannian | No need, looks great |
| 01:19.46 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
| 01:38.27 | dino82_ | :d |
| 01:38.48 | DrodoEmpire | :d |
| 01:38.53 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
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| 03:49.48 | DrodoEmpire | I think so |
| 03:49.56 | DrodoEmpire | Either now or in a couple hours |
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| 13:32.48 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 13:32.54 | Technobliterator | I figured it was |
| 13:32.59 | Technobliterator | since Zazane were in it |
| 13:33.06 | Hachiman | All that is Cyrannian's work with my partial input |
| 13:33.11 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 13:33.22 | Technobliterator | I didn't get to the trivia section yet |
| 13:38.14 | OluapPlayer | still lazi |
| 13:39.55 | Imperios | >lazi |
| 13:39.58 | Imperios | WHO SUMMONED ME |
| 13:40.12 | OluapPlayer | me |
| 13:40.16 | OluapPlayer | go fill ensalver's tab |
| 13:40.22 | OluapPlayer | enslaver even |
| 13:42.30 | Hachiman | I find it funny that Cyrannian does my fiction better than me |
| 13:42.47 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian does everyone's fiction better |
| 13:42.53 | Technobliterator | he is stupidly good at making pages |
| 13:42.58 | Technobliterator | and making them look nice |
| 13:43.19 | Technobliterator | him and Oluap are the least lazy people |
| 13:43.25 | Technobliterator | I just wish he'd do Reckoning |
| 13:45.12 | Imperios | Technobliterator: NOONE IS BETTER THAN ME *unsheathes axe* |
| 13:46.11 | Imperios | #Egomaniac |
| 13:46.18 | Imperios | But yeah he has excellent layout |
| 13:46.24 | OluapPlayer | u suk shup do as i order u |
| 13:46.31 | Imperios | Hm |
| 13:46.32 | Technobliterator | not just layout |
| 13:46.38 | Technobliterator | the tables and the images are what impress me most |
| 13:46.48 | Imperios | Tables I think are part of the layout |
| 13:46.51 | Imperios | Images yeah |
| 13:47.42 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Is Alexis supposed to still be active in the present day? |
| 13:48.00 | Monet | I'll definitely agree he knows how to make something look appealing. |
| 13:48.28 | OluapPlayer | I don't know, is he? |
| 13:48.32 | OluapPlayer | He's your character |
| 13:48.41 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Cyrannian and Oluap, the fiction universe would probably be bigger and better than something like Star Wars |
| 13:48.59 | OluapPlayer | If everyone were like me, the wiki would be up to date |
| 13:49.02 | OluapPlayer | shocking |
| 13:49.02 | Technobliterator | unfortunately, most people are Randomness and Imperios |
| 13:49.30 | Technobliterator | oh, and if everyone was Ghelae and Wormy, we'd have the hardest sci fi universe ever |
| 13:49.42 | OluapPlayer | cant do dat |
| 13:49.44 | OluapPlayer | 2sciency |
| 13:50.20 | Monet | Maybe this sort of collaboration is what we need. |
| 13:50.41 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Xho, the ficiton universe would be absurdly overpowered |
| 13:50.46 | Monet | We've got the knowhow, we just need to pool it. |
| 13:51.15 | Imperios | I feel offended hur |
| 13:51.25 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Hachi, there would be 10 million cross-species relationships |
| 13:51.39 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Charles, all the politics would be extremely realistic |
| 13:51.40 | Technobliterator | etc |
| 13:51.51 | OluapPlayer | If everyone was Hachi, there'd be no fictionverse |
| 13:52.02 | OluapPlayer | cus no un wuld edit |
| 13:52.15 | Technobliterator | hm |
| 13:52.15 | Imperios | If everyone was Hon we would have House of Cards |
| 13:52.17 | Hachiman | I like to believe that love should not be restricted to body hur |
| 13:52.17 | Technobliterator | if everyone was me? |
| 13:52.23 | Monet | Technobliterator: We get it |
| 13:52.37 | Imperios | No continue |
| 13:52.45 | OluapPlayer | Everyone would talk like a chav |
| 13:52.48 | Technobliterator | Hah |
| 13:52.49 | Technobliterator | yeahg |
| 13:52.55 | Imperios | I want to know my world would be like |
| 13:52.59 | Imperios | ...Nonexistent I presume |
| 13:53.11 | Technobliterator | hmm |
| 13:53.13 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 13:53.27 | Monet | Womy once |
| 13:53.33 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Imp, every fiction would be full of insane people |
| 13:53.40 | OluapPlayer | Hachi is a barren wasteland, Imp is a barren wasteland with one tree in it |
| 13:53.58 | Imperios | Huh |
| 13:54.05 | Imperios | Never thought insanity would be my defining trait |
| 13:54.08 | Monet | Wormy once wrote a section in his stuff page of things peopel here are knowledgeable at |
| 13:54.27 | OluapPlayer | Can't say I remember that |
| 13:54.33 | Technobliterator | Well, Imp, most of your characters are lunatics :P |
| 13:54.35 | Technobliterator | really? |
| 13:54.39 | Technobliterator | I don't remember |
| 13:54.50 | Hachiman | So apparently, there are people in places like Columbia and Brazil who make a living from killing homeless people and selling human meat that is marketed as other recipes |
| 13:54.51 | Imperios | Wait really? |
| 13:54.54 | Imperios | Other than the Mali'Nar? |
| 13:55.02 | Technobliterator | I mean, Imp, you have crazy people everywhere |
| 13:55.13 | Imperios | I can't remember anyone save for Telfinne, Latar, and the Mali'Nar |
| 13:55.18 | Technobliterator | and Venoriel |
| 13:55.26 | Technobliterator | and then the Radeon are insane fundies |
| 13:55.27 | OluapPlayer | Venoriel is rude, not crazy |
| 13:55.31 | Imperios | It was a big thing earlier but now I think it is not the case |
| 13:55.32 | Technobliterator | then I can't remember who that character was |
| 13:55.36 | Technobliterator | who was once all |
| 13:55.43 | Technobliterator | DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE |
| 13:55.48 | Technobliterator | and then you made the Hatemongerers |
| 13:55.52 | OluapPlayer | That's just Imp |
| 13:56.12 | Imperios | Quinniath? |
| 13:56.16 | Technobliterator | yeah him |
| 13:56.25 | Technobliterator | you have lots of crazy characters |
| 13:56.33 | Technobliterator | they're cool |
| 13:56.35 | Technobliterator | but they're crazy |
| 13:57.08 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Random, there would be no magic |
| 13:57.17 | Imperios | No I am not offended I am just surprised that I have so many crazy characters even today |
| 13:57.23 | Technobliterator | but nothing would be updated, so there'd be no anything either |
| 13:57.33 | Hachiman | If everyone was Monet, everything would be dragons |
| 13:57.38 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 13:57.49 | Imperios | And everything would be grand and posh |
| 13:58.07 | Imperios | Like a slightly weaker and brighter version of Xhoworld |
| 13:58.09 | Imperios | With dragons |
| 13:58.37 | Imperios | Hell imagine that as a story |
| 13:59.05 | Imperios | A star system inhabited by 10 species symbolising our fictions' exaggerated traits |
| 13:59.12 | Monet | I make more than dragons |
| 13:59.22 | Technobliterator | if everyone was Lorgas, Spartian or Thunderlord, no fiction would have proper grammar or capitalisation, or would have more than 1 page |
| 13:59.24 | Imperios | But fancy |
| 13:59.29 | Imperios | brgbrhrh |
| 13:59.41 | Imperios | I mean dragons or not, your stuff is always fancy and pretentious |
| 13:59.46 | Technobliterator | oh, if everyone was Dino, every fiction would have 9999 fancy spaceships |
| 13:59.58 | Imperios | *fancy spaceships!!!!!!!!!!!! :D |
| 14:00.02 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 14:00.04 | OluapPlayer | if everyone was dino, the whole wiki would be replaced by exclamation marks |
| 14:00.05 | Hachiman | fancy spaceships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D |
| 14:00.08 | Hachiman | Oh wait |
| 14:00.12 | Hachiman | You did it first |
| 14:00.12 | OluapPlayer | *:d |
| 14:00.27 | Imperios | Oh and it'd be about as sexualised as Hachiworld and Impworld |
| 14:00.53 | Hachiman | Kalcedia decides to retire to the Quadrants after getting tired of Borealis |
| 14:00.57 | Technobliterator | I confess, I haven't read enough of drom's fiction to know what his fictionverse would be like |
| 14:01.09 | Hachiman | It would be nothing but foxes |
| 14:01.14 | OluapPlayer | Whenever dino posts ":d" it comes off as him licking his upper lip to me |
| 14:01.17 | Imperios | Wait |
| 14:01.23 | Imperios | Are Nomatari wolves or foxes |
| 14:01.35 | Hachiman | They look like anthro wolves to me but drom fucking loves foxes |
| 14:01.53 | OluapPlayer | It's weird because sometimes dino just posts emoticons for no reason |
| 14:02.14 | Imperios | Well |
| 14:02.24 | Hachiman | pls no bully dino is qt |
| 14:02.24 | Imperios | Stereotype-wise I think they are more like foxes |
| 14:02.33 | Imperios | I mean they are sneaky fucks |
| 14:02.43 | Monet | Hachiman: He tells me they're a mix of fox, cat, wolf, and a bit of horse I think |
| 14:02.50 | Hachiman | HORSE COCK |
| 14:03.05 | Imperios | Fcalfrse |
| 14:03.07 | OluapPlayer | predictable shi |
| 14:03.10 | Imperios | Focalfrse |
| 14:03.19 | Hachiman | drom confirmed fagit |
| 14:03.27 | Imperios | He is Swedish |
| 14:03.30 | Imperios | I think he once flirted with me |
| 14:03.37 | OluapPlayer | we are all fagits, some just more than others |
| 14:03.49 | Hachiman | Wormy is practically drom's unwitting boyfriend at this point |
| 14:03.55 | Hachiman | They just post foxes at one another all day |
| 14:04.00 | Technobliterator | pft |
| 14:04.02 | Imperios | HE IS MY BOYFRIEND NOT WORMY'S |
| 14:04.09 | Imperios | shanks Wormy_ to death |
| 14:04.29 | Imperios | ...What the hell is wrong with me these days |
| 14:04.33 | Imperios | I feel more stupid than usual |
| 14:04.39 | Hachiman | cus u r |
| 14:04.40 | Technobliterator | Imperios, this is why you have mostly insane characters |
| 14:04.48 | OluapPlayer | cus u dont do as i order u |
| 14:04.55 | OluapPlayer | none of u do as i order u ffs |
| 14:05.02 | Technobliterator | ahem |
| 14:05.03 | Technobliterator | I do! |
| 14:05.05 | Technobliterator | sometimes... |
| 14:05.36 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Mister Oluap will see you tonight |
| 14:05.41 | Technobliterator | pft |
| 14:05.51 | Imperios | see you now even |
| 14:06.06 | OluapPlayer | This must be some reference I'm missing |
| 14:06.22 | Imperios | 50 Shades of Gray |
| 14:06.28 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 14:06.49 | Technobliterator | missing this reference is a fairly good |
| 14:07.06 | Wormy_ | Drom can get quite descriptive with me sometimes, like when he's on the bog |
| 14:07.25 | Wormy_ | Doesn't share that information with you Imperios I bet |
| 14:07.43 | Imperios | ...Why you and not me tho |
| 14:07.44 | Monet | Anyway, as the conversation started I agree with Techno: If we pool our talents, we could challenge Wookieepedia. At some point in the future |
| 14:08.03 | Wormy_ | I think his Nomatari are more vulpine than wolphine |
| 14:08.03 | Technobliterator | we actually probably could |
| 14:08.08 | Technobliterator | we've come along way from |
| 14:08.21 | Technobliterator | "The SSA is an organisation committed to fighting vandals." |
| 14:08.54 | Hachiman | I doubt we could challenge Wookieepedia |
| 14:09.02 | Hachiman | For one, most of our content is fanfic |
| 14:09.14 | Monet | Hachiman: Most of Wookieepedia is fanfic. |
| 14:09.20 | OluapPlayer | natrian empire represent |
| 14:09.24 | Monet | Shadows of the Empire was basically a fanfiction novel. |
| 14:09.25 | Hachiman | But then so is most Star Wars stuff after Disney purchased it :P |
| 14:09.26 | Technobliterator | Legends content is, anyway |
| 14:09.42 | Technobliterator | Wookieepedia's Legends content is bad |
| 14:09.52 | Technobliterator | because there is so much of it |
| 14:09.57 | Technobliterator | it's full of stubs |
| 14:10.04 | Technobliterator | and for a long time it was a poorly coded wiki |
| 14:10.07 | Technobliterator | but it's better now |
| 14:10.21 | Hachiman | The community is still toxic though |
| 14:10.24 | Monet | We could challenge Wookieepedia in terms of depth and content. In terms of content I advise no trying: No one challenges the Disney popularity machine and lives. |
| 14:10.24 | Imperios | It's LucasArts' fault, not theirs |
| 14:10.26 | Technobliterator | Yes |
| 14:10.41 | Monet | in terms of prevalence* |
| 14:11.13 | Technobliterator | The community is sometimes asinine |
| 14:11.21 | Technobliterator | they stick to their policies like a sort of bible |
| 14:11.34 | Technobliterator | and they remind me of the GOP because they try and make it hard for anyone else to raise an opinion against them |
| 14:12.07 | Technobliterator | funnily enough, one of their admins is a hardcore GOP guy who wanted the country to burn after Obama was re-elected |
| 14:12.54 | Monet | Anyway. |
| 14:13.00 | Technobliterator | a lot of them are ok though |
| 14:13.14 | Technobliterator | it's just the bad apples that are incredibly hostile |
| 14:13.45 | Technobliterator | Memory Alpha's community is just as strict when it comes to no fun allowed, but it's not hostile |
| 14:15.22 | Monet | Regarding pooling together, the PAE has been built with the cooperation of me, Imp and Charles. |
| 14:16.14 | Ghel | The idea of us all pooling our abilities together to write a single fiction is something I've thought of before. e.g. Wormy and I would do the science and technology, Xho could come up with an overly-complicated language, etc. |
| 14:16.20 | Ghel | Whether it would work I'm not sure, though. |
| 14:16.35 | Monet | Though given the size of it, I wouldn't mind a bit of Cyrannian visual flair. |
| 14:16.51 | Technobliterator | I think the idea is good, Ghel |
| 14:17.00 | Hachiman | Dunno where I would fit into that |
| 14:17.05 | Hachiman | Probably the being useless part |
| 14:17.08 | Technobliterator | But I'm not sure what we could agree on for such a massive fiction |
| 14:17.24 | Technobliterator | We could, however, set it in some far future or something |
| 14:17.29 | Ghel | Us having to agree on things may be the biggest problem. |
| 14:17.34 | Technobliterator | yea |
| 14:17.35 | Technobliterator | h |
| 14:17.38 | Technobliterator | but it's not a bad idea |
| 14:17.54 | Technobliterator | I think it'd be worth trying |
| 14:18.11 | Monet | Well we don't have to build a new fiction. |
| 14:18.25 | Technobliterator | still needs Charles and Cyrannian to move Reckoning |
| 14:18.30 | Technobliterator | asdasdfasdfasdf |
| 14:18.53 | Monet | A testbed fiction's a nice idea, but I wonder of rather than creating a new faction we try this on an existing faction. |
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| 14:19.48 | Technobliterator | If we did that, I'd have Oluap, Imperios and Xho make the creatures |
| 14:20.00 | OluapPlayer | wat |
| 14:20.01 | Imperios | i am useful |
| 14:20.05 | Imperios | YIY |
| 14:20.08 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian and dino make the spaceships |
| 14:20.16 | OluapPlayer | What are you going on about? |
| 14:20.24 | Technobliterator | <Ghel> The idea of us all pooling our abilities together to write a single fiction is something I've thought of before. e.g. Wormy and I would do the science and technology, Xho could come up with an overly-complicated language, etc. |
| 14:20.27 | Ghel | Monet: That's more practical. My actual idea was more like making a standalone fiction and really concentrating on making it detailed and fleshed-out, and that's too much like making a new fiction universe. |
| 14:20.45 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: What could have happened if we actualyl specialised |
| 14:20.57 | Technobliterator | I think it'd be easier to create a new fiction than make an existing one, personally |
| 14:21.10 | Monet | We all have our areas of expertise. |
| 14:21.10 | Technobliterator | Also, Charles definitely should handle the political aspects, Hachi the culture aspects, etc |
| 14:21.25 | Hachiman | I think Imp is more culturally-inclined hur |
| 14:21.39 | Hachiman | Knowing me I would just pump it full of MEMES, JACK |
| 14:21.48 | Technobliterator | your culture sections are really good |
| 14:21.59 | Technobliterator | in fact, your pages would be some of the best if they were actually complete |
| 14:22.09 | Technobliterator | like, look at lots of your fantasyverse page and the elf mommies |
| 14:22.15 | Technobliterator | they're really good if you ask me |
| 14:22.18 | Hachiman | Elf mommies |
| 14:22.19 | Hachiman | What |
| 14:22.25 | Technobliterator | the Loron name for them |
| 14:22.31 | OluapPlayer | Rovegar |
| 14:22.36 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 14:22.37 | OluapPlayer | The Loron call them elf mommies |
| 14:22.38 | Hachiman | OH |
| 14:22.49 | Hachiman | I was really confused for a moment |
| 14:22.59 | Hachiman | Rovegar are mostly Oluap's work though |
| 14:23.11 | OluapPlayer | They're not |
| 14:23.16 | Technobliterator | you are allowed to take credit for it |
| 14:23.16 | OluapPlayer | You wrote their entire empire page |
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| 14:23.23 | Technobliterator | because the page has you written all over it |
| 14:23.26 | Technobliterator | like, literally |
| 14:23.37 | OluapPlayer | And their entire creature page too |
| 14:23.54 | OluapPlayer | They're as much yours as they are mine |
| 14:23.57 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 14:24.06 | Technobliterator | Drodo and Monet can handle the military stuff |
| 14:24.43 | Technobliterator | Ghel and Cyrannian, the images |
| 14:24.44 | Technobliterator | etc |
| 14:24.47 | Technobliterator | it's a good idea |
| 14:24.53 | Technobliterator | I say do it |
| 14:24.54 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 14:25.01 | OluapPlayer | And what are you gonna do hur |
| 14:25.13 | Technobliterator | Urm, whatever you people think I'd be good at? |
| 14:25.21 | Hachiman | bein a total CUNT |
| 14:25.26 | Technobliterator | ya moms dum |
| 14:25.27 | OluapPlayer | And what are you good at |
| 14:25.27 | Monet | Technobliterator: Templates? |
| 14:25.36 | Technobliterator | I could code it, yes |
| 14:25.40 | OluapPlayer | I have no areas of expertise that others don't do better |
| 14:25.41 | Monet | One of the things Cyrannian makes great use of is tables. |
| 14:25.59 | Technobliterator | I showed him how to do a few of those, however :p |
| 14:26.02 | Hachiman | Oluap is a Jack of All Trades |
| 14:26.16 | OluapPlayer | More like a one trick pony |
| 14:26.19 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, you are definitely the best at creating creatures |
| 14:26.19 | OluapPlayer | I can only do characters |
| 14:26.26 | Technobliterator | And characters |
| 14:26.35 | OluapPlayer | And Imp can do both of those better than me |
| 14:26.36 | Technobliterator | And best at staying on top of stuff |
| 14:26.47 | Hachiman | Best at nagging |
| 14:26.48 | Technobliterator | If anything, you are tied with Imp |
| 14:26.57 | OluapPlayer | No |
| 14:27.03 | OluapPlayer | Imp is a tier above me |
| 14:27.12 | Technobliterator | We shall agree to disagree |
| 14:27.25 | Technobliterator | I don't think you give yourself enough credit |
| 14:27.25 | OluapPlayer | We agree you're flippin stoopid |
| 14:27.28 | Technobliterator | ya mom |
| 14:27.56 | Hachiman | tryin 2 convince oluap hes worff sumfin is useless useless useless |
| 14:28.26 | Technobliterator | yeah it's like trying to tell a girl she doesn't look fat |
| 14:28.29 | Technobliterator | would know |
| 14:28.58 | Hachiman | I wouldn't know because I shouldn't have to look at you while you're in the KITCHEN |
| 14:29.05 | Technobliterator | pfft |
| 14:29.52 | Technobliterator | Urm, I could help with characters and vehicles, I guess? I dunno |
| 14:30.01 | Technobliterator | should someone make a forum about this? |
| 14:30.33 | Monet | I like the idea of takeing a fiction to polish up could be the start of something. |
| 14:30.57 | Technobliterator | Ghel, do you want to make the forum or shall I? |
| 14:31.39 | Monet | fictions like the Rovegar, PAE, Cyrannian Zazane I think could become more of a majority if we put our minds to it. |
| 14:31.45 | Ghel | It sounds like you have more ideas about what to write. |
| 14:32.04 | Technobliterator | Well, I could, but I need to go in a minute |
| 14:32.27 | Ghel | I suppose I can just copy the suggestions from here. |
| 14:32.35 | Technobliterator | alright, I'll be back in a bit |
| 14:32.37 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 14:32.40 | Monet | Though that the thing I'm concerned with. Do these experts act as advisors or do they discuss the idea with the user who needs support and then write the section themselves? |
| 14:32.51 | Technobliterator | somethiing to work on after Da Reckoning |
| 14:34.18 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Our creatures cannot be compared really |
| 14:34.29 | Imperios | We have different artstyles for the lack of a better word |
| 14:34.39 | Imperios | Also |
| 14:34.42 | Imperios | You are not fart |
| 14:34.44 | Imperios | fat |
| 14:34.47 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:35.33 | Hachiman | That good me good |
| 14:36.01 | Monet | I'm merely concerned that some might feel like they're losing a sense of ownership of a fiction if its being written up by someone else. |
| 14:36.57 | Monet | But at the same time, there's probably subjects, particularly science, economics and politics, that writers might struggle putting into their own words. |
| 14:37.00 | Hachiman | Well Oluap knows he owns the Rovegar and I am fine with that even though I wrote the pages |
| 14:37.06 | Imperios | I helped Monet with languages |
| 14:37.13 | OluapPlayer | We co-own them u dunce |
| 14:37.23 | OluapPlayer | I created the concept, you wrote the pages |
| 14:37.35 | Hachiman | I also wrote the Macronormus page for you but you own that hur |
| 14:38.42 | OluapPlayer | If you want to co-own Macronormus, I don't mind it |
| 14:38.50 | Hachiman | I never said I did |
| 14:39.03 | Hachiman | Honestly for a while now I have felt more comfortable writing for other people than for myself |
| 14:39.08 | Hachiman | I would like to do it more |
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| 14:39.17 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: Gimme a name for a cultist the Enslaver uses as an avatar plz |
| 14:39.29 | OluapPlayer | Why would he have one? |
| 14:39.30 | Hachiman | Gonna need species, gender, etc |
| 14:39.39 | OluapPlayer | Only Praenuntius possesses other Lympharians |
| 14:39.47 | Imperios | He is kind of banished |
| 14:39.55 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 14:39.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 14:40.06 | OluapPlayer | So a Princeps kind of thing |
| 14:40.10 | OluapPlayer | Okay that's viable |
| 14:40.11 | Imperios | ya |
| 14:40.12 | Hachiman | You want an actual name or a title |
| 14:40.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: Name |
| 14:40.30 | Imperios | As for the species any sort of Deiwos I guess |
| 14:40.39 | Hachiman | rite |
| 14:40.46 | Hachiman | Hot elf milf it is |
| 14:40.51 | Imperios | Could be |
| 14:41.00 | OluapPlayer | Tibias - I'M GOING TO BONE HER |
| 14:41.31 | Hachiman | Sylindrei Kavharal |
| 14:41.46 | Imperios | He needs an avatar of some sort because he is only a few centuries old at best. If he stayed all of this time banished he would have basically done nothing other than wrecking his own homeland |
| 14:41.54 | Imperios | That works |
| 14:57.17 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cult_of_the_Eclipse#Individuals There you go |
| 14:57.45 | OluapPlayer | now write bout human satrap next |
| 14:57.45 | OluapPlayer | only took u 10 gorillion years |
| 14:58.24 | Imperios | Sorry, off to gym now |
| 14:59.08 | Hachiman | So the Enslaver is a male Lympharian who acts through a female avatar |
| 14:59.47 | OluapPlayer | dam u |
| 14:59.49 | Imperios | Yes |
| 15:00.05 | OluapPlayer | Are you gonna be out for long? I'd like to finish the Tibias story today |
| 15:00.08 | Imperios | DIE CIS SCUM |
| 15:00.13 | Imperios | Oh yeah I will have time today |
| 15:00.32 | Imperios | Also what do you think hur |
| 15:00.44 | Hachiman | I wonder how /fit/ Imp is |
| 15:00.50 | OluapPlayer | It's good, I like it |
| 15:02.16 | Imperios | Hachi: Think ogre |
| 15:02.33 | Imperios | Basically like that |
| 15:02.42 | Imperios | Except slightly slimmer |
| 15:02.46 | Hachiman | Ogre |
| 15:02.49 | Hachiman | As in Shrek or |
| 15:03.07 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:211781 - I feel like there's remarkably little there for the size of the discussion that took place. |
| 15:03.49 | Imperios | I can do politics too u |
| 15:04.17 | Technobliterator | Highlighted :o |
| 15:04.37 | Technobliterator | got back literally just in time for that |
| 15:05.13 | Ghel | I can put Imp by the politics point too if we think he should be there. |
| 15:05.22 | Technobliterator | oh, Panda's good at military too, but I have no idea if he's still active |
| 15:05.24 | Technobliterator | Or just IRC now |
| 15:05.52 | Technobliterator | I always thought Liquid, Panda and Random are only-IRC people now, which is why I didn't suggest them for any of these |
| 15:06.29 | OluapPlayer | They are just that |
| 15:06.49 | Ghel | It's not an exhaustive list anyway. |
| 15:07.02 | OluapPlayer | Panda edits once every few months, complains over how lonely he is, stops, rinse and repeat |
| 15:07.26 | Technobliterator | yeah but he's still a cool guy |
| 15:07.33 | Technobliterator | Liquid and Random are pretty quiet |
| 15:07.54 | Technobliterator | 1 sec |
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| 15:08.05 | Technobliterator | i'll eat then add to the forum |
| 15:08.07 | Hachiman | Ngh where is Cyrannian |
| 15:08.14 | Hachiman | I wanna tell him I really like what he did hur |
| 15:08.21 | Ghel | Liquid mainly talks in #cyrannus, so he's more active than he seems to be. |
| 15:08.35 | Ghel | Still rarely does anything fictionverse-related. |
| 15:10.56 | Ghel | But yes, if anybody really wants me to make any additions to the list I can do so. |
| 15:11.38 | Wormy_ | Commented on the thread |
| 15:12.46 | Wormy_ | I know quite a bit about 3D and FX now (and a lot better at photoshop), I could probably use those skills in the universe |
| 15:13.24 | Wormy_ | I would also build spaceships and sci-fi screenshots, but alas, I need to fox Spore |
| 15:13.27 | Wormy_ | *fix |
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| 15:17.10 | Cyrannian | Hello |
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| 15:17.19 | Monet | Hello |
| 15:17.20 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 15:17.26 | Wormy_ | Liqiud Ink doesn't do as much fiction anymore, but's he is active on #cyrannus |
| 15:17.42 | Wormy_ | I think you could probably add him to politics and culture |
| 15:18.15 | Wormy_ | He has imaginative creatures too |
| 15:18.24 | Wormy_ | Add Random to science and tech |
| 15:19.10 | Wormy_ | And if you create 3D bullet point, add Monet and drom (though he's taking an indefinate break) |
| 15:20.00 | Monet | It's easier for me to help improve pages. |
| 15:20.03 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Are there any sub-cults in the Eclipse Cult? |
| 15:20.16 | OluapPlayer | Not really |
| 15:21.13 | Wormy_ | I need to learn Blender in order to be able to use 3D on SporeWiki at all. Using Maya would break the non-commercial liscense |
| 15:21.32 | Hachiman | Cyrannian: Just wanted to say, really nice work with the Sovereign Domain of Azuxachor, I love what you have done with it |
| 15:21.35 | ImpyDroid | Could there be one then? Not with their own page but as some sort of special cultists |
| 15:21.48 | OluapPlayer | For what reason? |
| 15:21.51 | Hachiman | I was commenting earlier that I thought it was funny that you did my fiction better than I did hur |
| 15:22.18 | Cyrannian | Wouldn't go that far hur, but thanks for liking it |
| 15:23.11 | Technobliterator | hi Cyrannian |
| 15:23.21 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sovereign_Domain_of_Azuxachor - c for those who haven't |
| 15:23.25 | Technobliterator | Firstly Reckoning nag, secondly you might want to check out the new thread :o |
| 15:23.51 | Monet | Cyrannian: Check the forums. Your page has bee nthe catalyst for a new site-wide idea. |
| 15:24.23 | Cyrannian | Oh didn't know my page was the catalyst |
| 15:24.39 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: To give the Black Dervish I mentioned a reason for her title |
| 15:24.42 | Technobliterator | Wormy_, I agree with Liquid for those and Random for those, as well as Panda for military, but I felt like they were always too inactive. While I would welcome their input, I feel it'd be best they volunteer |
| 15:24.45 | Technobliterator | Well, it sort of was |
| 15:25.00 | ImpyDroid | Also a reason for her fighting style |
| 15:25.12 | OluapPlayer | They could be just a hierarchy |
| 15:25.15 | Technobliterator | I kind of joked around that if everyone was you and Oluap, then we'd have a completely finished fiction universe that could rival existing fictional settings |
| 15:25.17 | ImpyDroid | True that |
| 15:25.17 | OluapPlayer | No need for a whole separate faction |
| 15:25.29 | ImpyDroid | It would not be separate |
| 15:25.33 | Technobliterator | then took it further to imagine scenarios in which everyone was x user, the universe would be y |
| 15:25.38 | Ghel | The train of thought was "Cyr can do my fiction better than I do" -> what if everyone was like Cyr -> what if everyone was like [every other user] -> what if everyone used their abilities together instead |
| 15:25.45 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 15:25.47 | ImpyDroid | Just special cultists with special abilities that Eclipse guys employ |
| 15:25.56 | Technobliterator | Ghel brought up the idea in its current incarnation |
| 15:26.01 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 15:26.12 | Cyrannian | As for me, I don't know if I have a lot of time to work on fiction beyond the CCW, though I suppose creatures, characters, spaceships, politics and making pages look nice would be my interests |
| 15:26.15 | Ghel | Monet mentioned something similar too. |
| 15:26.48 | Technobliterator | Characters should be free-for-all |
| 15:26.58 | Technobliterator | We all are good at different kinds of characters, I feel |
| 15:27.04 | Monet | Agreed. |
| 15:27.14 | Cyrannian | What type of fiction will this be? |
| 15:27.42 | Technobliterator | I would go for a multi-species faction, similar to the DCP/Republic/UNO/whoever format |
| 15:27.59 | ImpyDroid | Space UN of a small galaxy/sector |
| 15:28.10 | ImpyDroid | Or a space EU |
| 15:28.14 | Technobliterator | Or we could make it interesting and base it on one of the very early fictions |
| 15:28.18 | Technobliterator | like, the Naucean or someone |
| 15:28.20 | ImpyDroid | Nauceans? |
| 15:28.22 | Technobliterator | but remade completely by us |
| 15:28.23 | Technobliterator | yeagh |
| 15:28.29 | Ghel | We could start by plotting a timeline. |
| 15:28.31 | Technobliterator | Naucean and friends |
| 15:28.32 | ImpyDroid | Actuay |
| 15:28.35 | Monet | The alternative is we try this collaborative scheme on an existing faction. |
| 15:28.43 | ImpyDroid | How about we set it in a pre-Tigris war setting |
| 15:28.45 | Ghel | So a species becomes spacefaring and does stuff, and then we can add new species at appropriate times. |
| 15:29.07 | Technobliterator | ImpyDroid, as I said in my post, I think it's best we create a setting completely separate from everything else first |
| 15:29.16 | Technobliterator | After that, if it succeeds, we can work it into the existing universe |
| 15:29.32 | Technobliterator | It could be an alternate reality, a distant future, or just an unexplored setting of the current universe |
| 15:29.32 | Technobliterator | etc |
| 15:30.07 | Technobliterator | oh, who's really good at lore? |
| 15:30.13 | Technobliterator | like, the history behind it |
| 15:30.45 | Ghel | I suppose we'd list people with good history pages for that. |
| 15:31.01 | OluapPlayer | Imp and Hachi |
| 15:31.15 | ImpyDroid | >Imp and Hachi |
| 15:31.19 | Ghel | Oh, yes; people with good history sections to their pages too. |
| 15:31.20 | ImpyDroid | >doing something |
| 15:31.28 | OluapPlayer | Yes, just imagine |
| 15:31.32 | Technobliterator | Hachi, yes. I think the more jobs we give to Imp, the less likely any of them will be done |
| 15:31.33 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 15:31.49 | Cyrannian | Maybe it could be a Realities Altered fiction |
| 15:31.55 | ImpyDroid | ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ACTUALLY |
| 15:32.03 | ImpyDroid | Remember the cleanslate galaxy idea of mine |
| 15:32.29 | Technobliterator | I REALLY think it's best to work it into something after we've made it |
| 15:32.46 | Ghel | If we make this a fiction on a galactic scale, I suppose the setting would look similar to the cleanslate galaxy idea. |
| 15:33.03 | Monet | Impydroid: I was wondering yes, maybe that could be the fiction we try this out on. |
| 15:33.03 | Technobliterator | I think the setting should be completely separate from the fictionverse |
| 15:33.10 | Technobliterator | and assume nothing to do with it at all |
| 15:33.16 | Technobliterator | until we finish it |
| 15:33.23 | ImpyDroid | The cleanslate galaxy idea was something I came up with once |
| 15:33.34 | ImpyDroid | Basically like our universe except confined to our galaxy |
| 15:33.38 | ImpyDroid | Think Ultimate Marvel |
| 15:33.59 | ImpyDroid | *confined to one galaxy |
| 15:34.04 | Technobliterator | Because otherwise, we're just discussing what kind of setting we could create without even knowing a) if this'll work or b) what kind of fiction will be IN that setting |
| 15:34.24 | Technobliterator | Whereas, once it is created, we have full flexibility |
| 15:34.25 | ImpyDroid | So Draconis, Grimbs and the like exist but most of them are in the same place and have developed accordingly |
| 15:34.41 | Technobliterator | and can do whatever we want with it |
| 15:34.51 | ImpyDroid | And may be different from the main universe interpetations |
| 15:35.08 | Ghel | Let's focus on one faction/culture before we try to fill the entire setting. |
| 15:35.26 | ImpyDroid | Humans? |
| 15:35.43 | Ghel | I suppose it would be a multicultural faction anyway, but with a shared history at least. |
| 15:36.07 | Technobliterator | Yes, I agree with ghel |
| 15:36.34 | Technobliterator | I also don't know how strict we should be with quality control or with rules |
| 15:36.37 | Monet | Best to start with the super-fiction as a keystone. Once we've got a concrete concept ,we can then expand the setting. |
| 15:36.37 | Ghel | They'd have to be relatable to humans, since it's humans who are writing and reading the fiction. |
| 15:36.44 | ImpyDroid | The idea I had about the cleanslate world was that there would be two large superpowers: an older one loosely based on the PAE and a younger one loosely bas3d on the DCP |
| 15:36.53 | Ghel | But mabe not humans yet. |
| 15:36.54 | Ghel | gtg |
| 15:36.54 | ImpyDroid | And yeah the humans would be a neutral force or separated |
| 15:37.03 | Technobliterator | I think we should let people do their own thing, have Oluap co-ordinate it, and have only one rule |
| 15:37.15 | Technobliterator | which is that if you start a fight with another user, you're kicked from the fiction |
| 15:37.49 | OluapPlayer | I'm not coordinating anything |
| 15:37.53 | OluapPlayer | This is your idea, not mine |
| 15:37.58 | Technobliterator | but you can nag people to do stuff |
| 15:38.07 | OluapPlayer | I would rather nag you to do your normal fiction |
| 15:38.12 | ImpyDroid | Jo: You are as good as nagging as hom |
| 15:38.14 | ImpyDroid | *him |
| 15:38.18 | ImpyDroid | *at |
| 15:38.20 | Technobliterator | I am not good at nagging |
| 15:39.20 | ImpyDroid | So the core of the story would be an alliance of humans and aliens existing between two superpowers |
| 15:40.06 | ImpyDroid | Probably torn apart by political infighting |
| 15:40.54 | Charles_Murray | What's going on? |
| 15:41.20 | Technobliterator | Charles_Murray, check the recent forum |
| 15:41.23 | Technobliterator | also, Reckoning, yo |
| 15:41.44 | Charles_Murray | Right, still working on it ^.^ Haven't forgotten |
| 15:41.51 | Technobliterator | alright sweet |
| 15:42.04 | ImpyDroid | Oh here is another idea |
| 15:42.53 | ImpyDroid | AU!Earth holds some rare as fuck mineral that is basically space oil, and the human-led alliance becomes important |
| 15:42.56 | ImpyDroid | Because of it |
| 15:43.24 | Technobliterator | Can we please not have alternate universes yet? : | |
| 15:43.38 | ImpyDroid | AU as in this fiction project |
| 15:43.47 | ImpyDroid | Now the older superpower has some sort of technology laws that stem scientific research in that direction |
| 15:43.52 | Technobliterator | It's a bad idea, if you ask me, because that limits our flexibility |
| 15:43.52 | OluapPlayer | You're following an entirely different trail of thought of everyone else |
| 15:44.12 | Technobliterator | Like I said, we can work this idea into an alternate universe, a past, a future, or whatever, when it's done |
| 15:44.16 | ImpyDroid | Hey I make ideas |
| 15:44.29 | ImpyDroid | You can call it however you want hur |
| 15:44.29 | Technobliterator | They're not bad ideas, but they're premature |
| 15:44.44 | ImpyDroid | You may call it something else |
| 15:44.47 | Technobliterator | If we start with a completely blank slate |
| 15:44.54 | Technobliterator | then we can work this stuff out |
| 15:45.07 | ImpyDroid | Right so we could start from the mostly human faction |
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| 15:45.21 | ImpyDroid | Humans are excellent at providing immersion |
| 15:45.33 | Technobliterator | Imp, are you listening to me : | |
| 15:45.38 | Technobliterator | wb cyrannian |
| 15:45.48 | Charles_Murray | Depending on how you guys want to implement this, I could offer the French Empire up for this |
| 15:45.54 | ImpyDroid | You said there needs to be a region/ðculture from which we start |
| 15:46.00 | ImpyDroid | Nah it is a new thing |
| 15:46.06 | ImpyDroid | Not connected to the fictionverse |
| 15:46.14 | Cyrannian | Didn't realise I was gone |
| 15:46.19 | Technobliterator | No, I said we should start from literally nothing |
| 15:46.37 | Charles_Murray | In the FU or out? |
| 15:46.39 | Technobliterator | and we can work it into whatever after that |
| 15:46.52 | Technobliterator | We haven't decided that yet either |
| 15:46.55 | Charles_Murray | Alright, works for me |
| 15:47.11 | Technobliterator | My opinion is we literally start from a completely new setting |
| 15:47.21 | Technobliterator | assuming nothing from the current universe is canon |
| 15:47.25 | Technobliterator | and depending on what we make |
| 15:47.26 | ImpyDroid | Righlht |
| 15:47.32 | Technobliterator | then we can decide how it relates to the current universe |
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| 15:47.46 | ImpyDroid | So what will be the foundation of all that |
| 15:47.55 | ImpyDroid | What is the first thing we decide |
| 15:47.58 | Technobliterator | it could be within the current universe as an unexplored state, it could be an alternate reality, it could be a past, or whatever |
| 15:48.04 | Technobliterator | Well, that's up to us :o |
| 15:48.10 | Charles_Murray | Though for governing the fiction: It might be interesting to have each user own a portion of the fiction. Could be a character, a region, autonomous entities, and they work together under a single system |
| 15:48.22 | Charles_Murray | Which is the fiction, which is fleshed out by all of us |
| 15:48.24 | Technobliterator | yeah, Charles |
| 15:48.26 | Technobliterator | I agree |
| 15:48.35 | Technobliterator | Having it be a multi-species or something fiction is good |
| 15:49.09 | Technobliterator | I'd suggest someone make like |
| 15:49.21 | Technobliterator | 5 different ideas for this multi-species fiction |
| 15:49.23 | Technobliterator | and various backgrounds |
| 15:49.27 | Technobliterator | Imp or someone can do that |
| 15:49.33 | Technobliterator | then we vote on the forum which is best |
| 15:49.45 | ImpyDroid | So the initial concept |
| 15:49.49 | Wormy_ | I think a complete blank state is the best thing we can do |
| 15:49.55 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 15:50.00 | Technobliterator | initial concept |
| 15:50.08 | Charles_Murray | That way we can implement the fiction's trajectory in a concrete way, relying on the in-character powers of the different fictions involved in order to decide that |
| 15:50.08 | Wormy_ | That way the ghosts of problems in the past can't bite us |
| 15:50.13 | Charles_Murray | Rather than getting people upset OOCly |
| 15:50.17 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 15:50.42 | ImpyDroid | That is when we set it into motion |
| 15:50.42 | Technobliterator | also, who is co-ordinating this |
| 15:50.48 | Technobliterator | or are we having co-ordinators at all |
| 15:51.07 | OluapPlayer_ | You'll need someone in charge unless you want this to turn into a multi-headed hydra |
| 15:51.08 | Wormy_ | Aren't we all the co-ordinators? |
| 15:51.19 | ImpyDroid | HAIL |
| 15:51.34 | Technobliterator | ok, but who in charge? |
| 15:51.55 | OluapPlayer_ | That's for you to decide among yourselves hur |
| 15:52.03 | Wormy_ | I suggest we go for an arnarcho-collective heterachy |
| 15:52.28 | ImpyDroid | Direct democracy |
| 15:52.37 | Charles_Murray | Oh my |
| 15:52.46 | ImpyDroid | Whenever someone raises an issue, we propose up to 5 solutions |
| 15:52.51 | Charles_Murray | Er, didn't we say I would flesh out the political system? xD |
| 15:52.52 | ImpyDroid | Raise them on the forum |
| 15:52.52 | Wormy_ | Voluntary associatioin and common ownership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism |
| 15:52.54 | ImpyDroid | THEN VOTE |
| 15:52.58 | Technobliterator | haha yeah |
| 15:53.16 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray: THAT is in-universe, we are talking about OOC |
| 15:53.20 | ImpyDroid | But yeah communism |
| 15:53.22 | Technobliterator | No, Charles can decide both the out of universe and in universe politics |
| 15:53.44 | ImpyDroid | Could work yes |
| 15:53.46 | Technobliterator | clearly the most qualified for that job |
| 15:53.48 | ImpyDroid | Hon do studf |
| 15:53.50 | ImpyDroid | *stuff |
| 15:53.53 | Monet | If we get an idea of the constituents of this super-fiction it can help to understand what the overall political system is. |
| 15:56.00 | ImpyDroid | ded for a little bit |
| 15:56.55 | Charles_Murray | I would personally hesitate to create two different systems for IC and OOC politics, given that it might set us up for a lot of confusion, complexity, and contradictory outcomes |
| 15:57.20 | Charles_Murray | What's tended to work very well in my experience is basing the OOC decisions off what's going on IC |
| 15:57.39 | Charles_Murray | But I can make two different systems if you guys like |
| 15:57.42 | Technobliterator | Well, what I mean was |
| 15:58.02 | Technobliterator | you could work out how the best way t co-ordinate and decide on ideas would be OOC |
| 15:58.08 | Technobliterator | as well as make the IC political system |
| 15:58.40 | Charles_Murray | Sure, I could do that |
| 15:58.46 | Charles_Murray | Who is participating so far? |
| 16:00.11 | Technobliterator | Looks like most of us? I assume Oluap is staying out for the time being |
| 16:02.42 | Charles_Murray | Alright; From my perspective, we could start by deciding the shape of the fiction. Who are the main user-owned actors which are the property of users and which will be making decisions and participating in stories? We could go with individual territories and have those exist in a larger union, cultures or species (harder to pull off, but viable), or individuals within a single state |
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| 16:03.09 | OluapPlayer | I'm so sick of this |
| 16:03.47 | Charles_Murray | Also, I've always wanted to do thisââSince we're making this entirely new, could we decrease the scale to the point where individual planets are of enormous importance? Individual ships as well? |
| 16:04.20 | Technobliterator | Yeah, I agree with that |
| 16:04.34 | Wormy_ | So lower on scale of resources and power? |
| 16:04.36 | Technobliterator | As for individual territories, not sure. Like, we could have a sort of union of states |
| 16:05.02 | Technobliterator | But I feel like it should definitely be collaborative between everyone |
| 16:05.10 | ImpyDroid | As I said I suggest we make it a galaxy or a small sector |
| 16:05.25 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 16:05.37 | Technobliterator | I think you can have diversity of states/species and still be unified and collaborative |
| 16:05.45 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : Oh definitely; The kind of broad structure I'm thinking about is thisââ |
| 16:05.45 | Wormy_ | Perhaps we should restrict FTL capabilities too? |
| 16:05.54 | ImpyDroid | Yeah |
| 16:06.02 | ImpyDroid | Maybe something more down to earth too |
| 16:06.04 | ImpyDroid | Wormholes? |
| 16:06.10 | Wormy_ | Or even have an STL civilisation, with some wormholes |
| 16:06.34 | Charles_Murray | There's going to be a user-owner portion which is owned and written entirely by individual users and which acts within the larger fiction, then the union itself which is written and navigated by all of us |
| 16:06.37 | Wormy_ | We'd have to take relativistic effects into account, as well as speed of light delays |
| 16:07.20 | Wormy_ | Orion's Arm is set in a universe where the only FTL is granted by Arechailect dominated wormholes |
| 16:07.21 | Charles_Murray | Maybe we could do early warp, kinetic weapons? |
| 16:07.28 | ImpyDroid | aye |
| 16:07.37 | Charles_Murray | Or actually, maybe this is Wormy's sphere |
| 16:07.41 | Charles_Murray | He can figure it out |
| 16:08.02 | Wormy_ | I don't want to copy Orion's Arm, so warp is up for consideration. |
| 16:08.13 | Technobliterator | What I think is, whatever we end up doing, we put it all up to popular vote ealry on |
| 16:08.31 | Technobliterator | So, either we suggest different broad stroke ideas and have people agree on that |
| 16:08.37 | Technobliterator | Or we just vote on which users handle which thing |
| 16:08.51 | Wormy_ | And actually talking to Ghelae, he thinks the hyperdrive is more feasible in current models of quantum gravity, and we ciould work out a way that limits it. |
| 16:08.54 | Technobliterator | because giving people positions without discussion is not usually a good idea |
| 16:09.08 | Charles_Murray | Right, sorry |
| 16:09.11 | Charles_Murray | That was just a suggestion |
| 16:09.14 | Technobliterator | nah |
| 16:09.17 | Technobliterator | your suggestions are fine |
| 16:09.24 | Technobliterator | as long as they're just suggestions |
| 16:09.42 | Charles_Murray | Though here's how I think we could figure out the fiction in increments |
| 16:10.09 | ImpyDroid | Also as I said |
| 16:10.14 | ImpyDroid | We need some sort of space oil |
| 16:10.24 | Charles_Murray | 1. We figure out its components, i.e. the user-owned components which act within the collaborative components. |
| 16:10.39 | Charles_Murray | 2. We flesh out the user-owned components |
| 16:10.48 | ImpyDroid | Something that all factions in the world desire - a valuable resource or maybe a species or even worlds that can drive politics |
| 16:10.58 | Charles_Murray | 3. We bring the user-owned components together and hash out a government under which they could all coexist. |
| 16:11.25 | Charles_Murray | And extrapolate fiction rules from that |
| 16:12.16 | Charles_Murray | #3 is figuring out the collaborative component in general, including resources, physics, politics, military stuff, etc |
| 16:13.30 | Monet | Could work. It would give us a way to organically form the super-fiction |
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| 16:14.38 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/5LdEuwH.gifv |
| 16:14.45 | Charles_Murray | Monet Wormy_ ^ |
| 16:14.59 | ImpyDroid | Bri'n |
| 16:16.24 | Wormy_ | Its very true of the weather right now |
| 16:17.01 | Monet | April is the most miserable time |
| 16:17.09 | Monet | All the rain and all |
| 16:17.11 | Wormy_ | I normally love April |
| 16:17.23 | ImpyDroid | April is <3 |
| 16:17.33 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator: I think I can only extend so much time into the new universe |
| 16:17.41 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 16:17.43 | Technobliterator | that's fine |
| 16:17.52 | Technobliterator | for all we know |
| 16:17.57 | Technobliterator | this idea may end up going nowhere |
| 16:18.08 | Technobliterator | it's just a bunch of floating ideas |
| 16:18.10 | Charles_Murray | Well, let's quickly decide on preliminaries |
| 16:18.13 | Charles_Murray | I need to go really soon |
| 16:18.18 | Technobliterator | we should do this on a forum |
| 16:18.18 | Wormy_ | I would love to contribute to the science, the tech, and possibly some other science fiction scenarios. But I've got too much fiction and pages to work on already |
| 16:18.20 | Technobliterator | probably later |
| 16:18.28 | Wormy_ | I could work on ideas |
| 16:18.51 | Monet | Technobliterator: Optimism and enthusiasm can help keep it away from that happening. |
| 16:18.53 | Cyrannian | Yeah same, I'll be too busy with my own fiction and college work to be involved |
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| 16:21.14 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 16:21.17 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:211781#6 |
| 16:22.08 | Technobliterator | hi xho |
| 16:22.31 | Xho | qwetyujikl |
| 16:22.38 | OluapPlayer | sponge |
| 16:23.21 | OluapPlayer | Now just need Imp here again |
| 16:24.53 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:211781#6 Edited my comment |
| 16:25.19 | Charles_Murray | I personally really like the idea of each user owning a planet |
| 16:25.26 | Charles_Murray | Which is then a member of a larger federation |
| 16:25.53 | Charles_Murray | Impy could flesh out species that we could choose from |
| 16:26.36 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator Wormy_ |
| 16:26.55 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 16:27.00 | Technobliterator | we can work this out eventually |
| 16:27.07 | Technobliterator | I think we should give it a rest for now |
| 16:27.13 | Technobliterator | and have votes and stuff later on |
| 16:27.33 | Technobliterator | like in a day or so |
| 16:27.49 | Charles_Murray | Careful of letting the momentum die down |
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| 16:33.40 | OluapPlayer | imp get home pls |
| 16:35.53 | Charles_Murray | Ghel : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:211781#6 |
| 16:37.16 | Ghel | A good start. I've had a few more thoughts about the setting, and I think some of them might indirectly fit into those parts of the discussion, particularly scale. |
| 16:39.06 | Ghel | In fact, particularly about fleshing out planets: my thoughts were on the biosphere. Pages like http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrandia_Cluster/Wildlife show that there's a lot of wildlife that users make, but on each planet there's almost never more than a few species. |
| 16:39.53 | Ghel | So if we made it so that there were relatively few naturally life-bearing planets (you could still go crazy with terraforming and synthetic biology :P), that might help flesh out the natural history of those worlds. |
| 16:40.03 | Wormy_ | I'd love to work on the geology and environmental settings. |
| 16:40.17 | Charles_Murray | If we were to limit the scope to each user owning a single planet, that would definitely be possible |
| 16:40.41 | Charles_Murray | And each user's passions would definitely come out in the construction of their planet's page |
| 16:40.58 | Ghel | Having actors be on a planetary or star system scale also fits in well with the idea of restricting FTL travel, or having spacefaring civilisation develop for some centuries before it's developed. |
| 16:42.23 | Ghel | If it's difficult to communicate and move resources across interstellar distances, I expect that would inhibit building and maintaining galactic empires. So cultures and societies on smaller scales will be allowed to more easily develop in their own unique ways. |
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| 16:43.56 | Wormy__ | ~seen Wormy_ |
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| 16:44.17 | Ghel | There might be other organisations than planetary governments, since there are other ways of maintaining people's loyalty - religions, for example - and these, perhaps along with a larger union of civilisations, would also play a part. |
| 16:44.58 | Wormy__ | Have you seen my comments Interstellar travel? |
| 16:45.34 | Ghel | I saw your earlier comments on it. What I said before you rejoined: |
| 16:45.39 | Ghel | [17:40] <@Ghel> Having actors be on a planetary or star system scale also fits in well with the idea of restricting FTL travel, or having spacefaring civilisation develop for some centuries before it's developed. |
| 16:45.42 | Ghel | [17:42] <@Ghel> If it's difficult to communicate and move resources across interstellar distances, I expect that would inhibit building and maintaining galactic empires. So cultures and societies on smaller scales will be allowed to more easily develop in their own unique ways. |
| 16:46.08 | Wormy__ | Interesting |
| 16:46.19 | Wormy__ | We could focus more on the alien |
| 16:47.46 | Ghel | We could even have the setting on a relatively large scale with few naturally life-bearing planets: Orion's Arm shows how easy it is to have a huge variety of lifeforms and cultures starting from just a single technological species. |
| 16:48.25 | Ghel | As for the mechanics of FTL, this would be part of what might best be called "extraphysics": how things work beyond real-world physics. Like the supernatural: if we're including it in this setting, like Essence in the main fictionverse, we'll need to decide how it's going to work. |
| 16:49.04 | Cyrannian | I will say that I'm sceptical about the idea of users being in charge over aspects of the larger fiction on the basis that they are "better" at them |
| 16:50.02 | Xho | It sounds like a massive screw up waiting to happen if you askme |
| 16:50.04 | Xho | ask me |
| 16:50.09 | ImpyDroid | 0Z5Gavih.jpg pizza |
| 16:50.45 | Cyrannian | I like the idea, but I agree |
| 16:51.40 | Charles_Murray | Cyrannian : It has less to do with being better at them, and more to do with passion and interest. Wormy and Ghel are clearly more interested in the science behind FTL travel, in ecology and geology, and we all benefit from their razor-sharp focus on these subjects |
| 16:52.13 | Xho | If the wiki wants to do things more collectively I'd say we do it at our leisure rather than go "Oh let's have everyone specialise everything so nothing is ever forgotten" |
| 16:52.37 | Charles_Murray | The result will have a lot more depth and thought into it than if I did it, which would amount to "there are rocks and shrubs here, moving on!" |
| 16:54.02 | Charles_Murray | And as I mentioned before, these aspects where we are dividing up labor are primarily for the large collab fiction. The individual planets owned by usersââif we want to go with that modelââwould be a space within which users can do what they want |
| 16:54.21 | Cyrannian | Nothing in my comment implied that the users more interested in a certain aspect would not be able to contribute heavily to it. I simply meant that an individual user should not have *control* over these aspects. |
| 16:54.24 | Monet | I listed examples that came to my mind that I feel came out improved because of collaborative effort. |
| 16:55.16 | Charles_Murray | Control vs. contribution vs. coordination is just a matter of perspective o.o |
| 16:55.25 | Monet | Cyrannian: Which they would, the better system might be to do what has been done before where we have to users - the owner and the expert - discussing the element in question. |
| 16:55.53 | Charles_Murray | I would personally think that "coordination" would better describe what we're going for, since this is a collaborative effort after all |
| 16:58.51 | Monet | If we adopt this concept of deeper coodrination with the use of subject experts, the fictionverse's nature as a collaborative effort is likey ot mean that ultimately if a user doesn't want this done with their fiction, wi will be left alone with little question. |
| 17:01.15 | Ghel | It would be "control" by community consensus, really, because that's how our community works. And I'd like to think that anybody who joins a project that involves dividing efforts in this way isn't going to be so controlling that they don't listen to other people's ideas. |
| 17:01.15 | Xho | Going off topic but is the Dominion of the Xhodocto actually aligned with anyone |
| 17:01.15 | Xho | Or allied |
| 17:01.15 | Xho | I can't remember |
| 17:01.15 | Cyrannian | I was simply basing my comment on phrases used in the forum post. In any case, merely a suggestion. |
| 17:01.15 | Cyrannian | Now, brb |
| 17:01.16 | Ghel | I suppose somebody should clarify that control/coordination issue on the thread to help prevent misconceptions like that. |
| 17:02.05 | Technobliterator | Xho, I actually think they're not |
| 17:02.14 | Xho | Everyone hates them lul |
| 17:02.49 | Technobliterator | or they hate everyone |
| 17:02.50 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 17:02.51 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 17:03.00 | Technobliterator | Da Rogue Boyz are not enemies with them atm |
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| 17:11.00 | Xho | And now for Dominion's enemies list |
| 17:11.04 | Xho | This is going to be huge |
| 17:11.34 | OluapPlayer | *All |
| 17:11.47 | Xho | close enough lel |
| 17:12.59 | Xho | There's only two factions in the entire Gigaquadrant that the Dominion don't consider enemies |
| 17:13.05 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Give every faction a long rant |
| 17:13.07 | Xho | Da Rogue Boyz and the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus |
| 17:13.30 | OluapPlayer | Imp get home pls |
| 17:13.43 | OluapPlayer | Corruptus - y da fuk not |
| 17:14.29 | Xho | Dominion - dunno lol |
| 17:14.59 | OluapPlayer | Corruptus - waptors must go extinct again |
| 17:16.19 | Monet_2 | Surely that woudl maek other intelligence agencies suspicious |
| 17:17.58 | Xho | Depends on how much is known of the Dominion |
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| 17:30.31 | OluapPlayer | Xho Hachiman Imperios: AAAA |
| 17:30.39 | Imperios | gis dgflasdhgfa\ |
| 17:30.39 | Xho | BBBB |
| 17:30.41 | Imperios | ready |
| 17:31.41 | OluapPlayer | Xho Hachiman: u come finish fantasy story nao |
| 17:31.45 | Hachiman | fien |
| 17:31.57 | Xho | fish |
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| 17:37.26 | Ghelae | Just had a power cut. |
| 17:37.40 | Wormy__ | I've gone someway to explaining the control vs. coordination thing on the blog |
| 17:38.11 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dominion_of_the_Xhodocto#Relationships LOTS AND LOTS OF RED |
| 17:38.30 | Wormy__ | *forum |
| 17:38.52 | Monet_2 | Wormy: Looks reasonable |
| 17:39.25 | Wormy__ | Actually within limits can be a great thing |
| 17:39.49 | Wormy__ | It makes one think more deeply about what creative solutions are available |
| 17:40.24 | Monet_2 | Agreed. Limitations can be a good incentive to think outside the box. |
| 17:40.53 | Wormy__ | And also, having a universe set on a smaller scale, liuke Charles said, lets us think more about individual planets more than we do in the main universe. |
| 17:41.25 | Wormy__ | All those things we miss the chance of fleshing out because the universe has followed a particular chain |
| 17:42.29 | Ghelae | I don't want to turn that thread into a debate about something that isn't a major problem, so I'll say it here for now unless people think it should go on the wiki. |
| 17:42.35 | Ghelae | The point is that this is all voluntary, because that's how our community works. Forcing anybody to do or not do something against their will goes against the whole spirit of this wiki, and we all know that. |
| 17:42.47 | Ghelae | The only way this can work is if people *allow* other users to work on certain aspects of the fiction because they believe that this will lead to a richer universe. |
| 17:43.01 | Ghelae | This is why I refered to "specialisations": I never said anybody was in "control" or even called them "coordinators". |
| 17:43.28 | Xho | Still |
| 17:43.30 | Xho | Please leave me out of it |
| 17:44.07 | Ghelae | We will do. |
| 17:44.20 | Ghelae | Because if we didn't, we'd be forcing you to do something against your will, etc etc. |
| 17:44.50 | Ghelae | Anyway, I was about to check out all of the red on the Dominion's relationships section. |
| 17:45.06 | Wormy__ | I think it should go on the wiki, though we do risk flooding Luxor with criticism that may be seen as negatively |
| 17:45.28 | Ghelae | I'll just edit my previous post. |
| 17:45.40 | Wormy__ | Yeah |
| 17:45.50 | Cyrannian | I'm pretty sure it stems from a misunderstanding on IRC which stated that individual users would be assigned to be in charge of expanding on various aspects of the setting based on their interest and expertise |
| 17:46.39 | Wormy__ | It does |
| 17:47.14 | Cyrannian | I was about to make a post about it, but it seems as though that particular aspect is sorted |
| 17:47.16 | Wormy__ | Look, we are all so used to the fiction universe, it is no surprise people are getting confused or don't like the idea. |
| 17:47.39 | Wormy__ | It does need clarifying clearly on the thread though |
| 17:48.45 | Wormy__ | bbl |
| 17:51.08 | Xho | I don't like the idea because I'm not a fan of having to share what I know with others |
| 17:51.17 | Xho | We're all rather capable on our own |
| 17:52.30 | Xho | Actually wait rephrase that |
| 17:52.59 | Xho | No wait |
| 17:53.09 | Xho | Oh goddammit why am I changing my mind on this |
| 17:54.29 | Monet_2 | Techno's enthusiasm for getting one up over Wookiepedia might have als oaffected the idea. |
| 17:54.43 | Imperios | Xho: No rants |
| 17:54.45 | Imperios | I am disappointed |
| 17:54.48 | Cyrannian | Wookieepedia? |
| 17:56.05 | Monet_2 | As massive as the site is, it's a horribly bloated database. |
| 17:58.43 | Cyrannian | Aye, with horrible staff |
| 18:04.19 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12794466_2581153761939859_3947018620500584014_n.jpg?oh=274826c73f5e5a24a1a8ae6817ca46d5&oe=577A5431 |
| 18:06.40 | Cyrannian | Hm, does anyone think I should rename the Coruannus System to something less "Cyrannus"-y? |
| 18:06.49 | Xho | >less |
| 18:06.54 | Xho | waptor wat u doin |
| 18:07.19 | Cyrannian | I must have been running low on the oul imagination when I named it |
| 18:08.20 | Monet_2 | It might make things less ocnfusing. |
| 18:11.26 | Cyrannian | Hm, the Calithilaen System perhaps |
| 18:11.46 | Monet_2 | Could work. |
| 18:11.46 | Imperios | Ruann |
| 18:13.21 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Worlds_of_Calithilaen - dere, going to be styling it as the interstellar civilisation of the Libertus rather than a list of worlds |
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| 18:23.05 | Imperios | Hachiman Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y386xug7ts |
| 18:24.40 | OfficerJackal | Alright, this new universe idea that sparked up, it's leaving me sort of confused. Can anyone give me a short and to the point version of what you all have planned for it so far? |
| 18:31.35 | Xho | OfficerJackal: Basically a universe that has total user input in every element |
| 18:31.38 | Xho | As a collaborative effort |
| 18:31.44 | Xho | I think if done as a new universe it might work |
| 18:32.25 | Ghelaway | The idea is roughly for a style of fiction-writing where users write about the things they're most knowledgeable about / interested in, rather than simply doing the whole of their own fictions. |
| 18:32.51 | Ghelaway | As for the details of the setting, we don't have much yet. |
| 18:33.09 | Xho | Well being limited to linguistics and creature design's pretty wasting of me if I do say so myself |
| 18:33.23 | OfficerJackal | Uh... Right... Well, I would be able to make my own fiction in that Universe if I wanted to, right? |
| 18:33.35 | OfficerJackal | With me doing everything for it? |
| 18:33.54 | Xho | I guess so but that's not what we'd ultimately be aiming for |
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| 18:34.39 | OfficerJackal | Alright, that's good then. I don't like people directing what my fiction should be like/writing other parts of it. |
| 18:35.13 | Ghelaway | In that case, don't join in with that universe. :P |
| 18:35.38 | Xho | I mean I'm fairly good with languages and creature design but there's a lot more I can do than just that |
| 18:35.42 | Ghelaway | I'd say there's a chance other users wouldn't consider a fiction to be canon if you're completely going against the spirit of the whole setup. However, when the details of the setting are sorted out, there should be a fair amount of creative freedom. |
| 18:36.02 | Ghelaway | We wouldn't actually want to limit people to only doing certain things... like languages and creature design, for example. |
| 18:36.29 | Xho | One thing though |
| 18:36.34 | OfficerJackal | That's their problem then, not mine. Anyways, reason I want to join in is because this universe might be more active when it starts up then the scifi verse. |
| 18:36.41 | Xho | Isn't this going to draw attention away from the Fictionverse/Fantasyverse |
| 18:36.51 | Xho | Perhaps if it was that damn Civverse idea |
| 18:37.19 | Ghelaway | The idea of splitting the community like that is one of the problems that applies to all of these ideas. |
| 18:37.40 | Ghelaway | The truth is, we don't know. The fantasyverse didn't draw too much attention from the scifiverse, after all, but then they're very different genres. |
| 18:38.10 | Xho | Well there is four of us |
| 18:38.12 | Xho | Not... |
| 18:38.16 | Xho | However many there are on the Fictionverse |
| 18:38.27 | Ghelaway | gtg again |
| 18:38.49 | Ghelaway | but yeah, it's plausible that it'll cause some problems of that kind, but we can't be sure at all. |
| 18:51.14 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/12322886_10154105606944224_974999041980850994_o.jpg Scottish guy takes selfie with that plane hijacker in the news today |
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| 18:55.33 | OluapPlayer | Xho: git in the rp |
| 18:56.03 | Xho | TITANPAD YOU MOTHERFUCKING |
| 18:56.11 | Xho | CUNT |
| 18:56.14 | OluapPlayer | boris pls |
| 18:56.14 | Xho | FUCKING |
| 18:56.14 | Xho | FUCK |
| 18:56.16 | Xho | JUST FUCK |
| 18:56.18 | Xho | FUCK EVERYTHING |
| 18:56.22 | Xho | FUCK YOU, THE KEYBOARD, THE IRC |
| 18:56.28 | Xho | FUCK THE GRASS IN THE GARDEN |
| 18:56.35 | Xho | FUCK THE TARMAC IN THE ROAD |
| 18:56.48 | Xho | FUCK THAT PARTICULAR FORD KA DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND THE INFANT INSIDE IT |
| 18:56.59 | OluapPlayer | especially the infant |
| 18:57.01 | Hachiman | That's pedophilia |
| 18:57.13 | Xho | wat wrong wit u |
| 18:57.19 | Hachiman | u wanted 2 fuk it |
| 18:57.33 | Xho | wat wrong wit u still |
| 18:57.49 | OluapPlayer | But yeah now it went down to me too |
| 18:57.51 | Xho | Longinus will never have his cinematic |
| 18:58.03 | OluapPlayer | Longinus - dis is why im grumpy |
| 18:59.22 | OluapPlayer | Now it's back |
| 19:18.43 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/LpOVkVI.png?1 So I am attempting to create a Headless Horseman character and this is a WIP of how it's coming along so far |
| 19:19.23 | Hachiman | The skull on his head is not real, I should note; it's actually a fake skull he wears |
| 19:20.57 | Xho | hoodloos hoosmoon |
| 19:25.39 | Imperios | Hachiman: X'impe - is copycat |
| 19:29.44 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: Did you try not giving him any head at all? |
| 19:30.17 | Hachiman | I cannot make a good stump hur |
| 19:30.42 | Xho | "Did you try not giving him any head at all?" "I cannot make a good stump hur" |
| 19:30.44 | Xho | Jesus Christ you two |
| 19:30.50 | OluapPlayer | dam u |
| 19:32.22 | Hachiman | olol |
| 19:33.57 | Hachiman | Like if I could make a convincing stump for his neck then I would |
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| 19:52.46 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/J1nCmyH.png?1 I said I could not make a convincing stump for the Headless Horseman hur |
| 19:53.04 | MonetAway | Is there a way to make it shorter? |
| 19:54.24 | Monet | Actually, what happens to it when you move the shoulders up and upsize the top vertebra? |
| 19:54.35 | Hachiman | All the armour moves |
| 19:57.06 | Monet | The other possibility is no stump. But that might look silly in Spore. |
| 19:57.11 | Hachiman | It does |
| 19:59.39 | Wormy_away | Got chased by a horse for the fifth time in my life |
| 19:59.43 | OluapPlayer | "hhhehehe" |
| 19:59.48 | Wormy_away | Not top of my favourite animals really |
| 20:00.00 | OluapPlayer | Yeah I don't like horses either |
| 20:00.20 | Xho | Hez - hence apocalypse |
| 20:00.20 | Wormy_away | You can't read emotion on their faces, they could turn around and kick or bite you |
| 20:01.05 | Monet | They do emote, just not the human way. |
| 20:01.15 | Xho | Monet: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12923159_10156619063385577_5944618111975651304_n.jpg?oh=43265be8f525e23a3a649b2be9c7a402&oe=5778DEB3 |
| 20:01.26 | Xho | Quite relevant to the discussion as well |
| 20:01.58 | Monet | Oh Caligula, what didnt you do that was bonkers XD |
| 20:02.13 | Monet | The horse was called Insitatus wasn't it? Trying ot remember |
| 20:06.39 | Imperios | Xho: Angazhar and Hez'kalka |
| 20:06.43 | Imperios | Monet: Incitatus? |
| 20:06.51 | Imperios | Incitatus |
| 20:07.15 | Hachiman | Honestly just considering keeping Headless' skull on the model |
| 20:07.45 | Monet | Hachiman: Mayhe he wears a helmet and likes to go "BOO! I lost my head!" to people. |
| 20:07.52 | Monet | Only, you know, mro emurder-y |
| 20:08.01 | Hachiman | Well I was thinking he did that with his skull |
| 20:08.14 | Hachiman | Except the skull in question is not an actual skull, it's just made of clay |
| 20:08.29 | Imperios | Speaking of Rome |
| 20:08.33 | Imperios | Monet: Imagine Radeon Borgias |
| 20:08.56 | Hachiman | I was thinking that it's either a skull he wears or a sack with a helmet on it |
| 20:08.59 | Hachiman | Or a pumpkin |
| 20:09.17 | Monet | A pumpkin would rot though unless you use magic. |
| 20:10.38 | Monet | Imperios: Wasn't Aganassana kind of doing that? |
| 20:10.56 | Imperios | Agnassana is just backstabbing |
| 20:11.13 | Imperios | She is not a pope who had a harem of sex slaves |
| 20:16.51 | Monet | Right |
| 20:17.16 | Charles_Murray | http://i.imgur.com/FaafOQ5.gif |
| 20:17.25 | Charles_Murray | ^ Polandbal |
| 20:18.15 | Monet | Poor, poor Switzerland. |
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| 20:43.01 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:43.21 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 21:07.21 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dominion_of_the_Xhodocto#Relationships Once again witness the great redness of our time |
| 21:13.26 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.30 | ImpyDroid | I am unimpressed |
| 21:13.53 | Xho | cuz fuk dat |
| 21:16.43 | Monet | To be fair, were that done, most of the relations would be along the lines of "Don't support the Xhodocto. Throw them on a pyre" |
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| 21:19.52 | Monet | Hello |
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| 21:26.07 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Atrocius he ded |
| 21:28.20 | Hachiman | noice |
| 21:29.11 | OluapPlayer | >noice |
| 21:29.15 | OluapPlayer | Atrocius - rude³ |
| 21:29.15 | Xho | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicultural_London_English OH GOD IT'S AN ACTUAL DIALECT |
| 21:35.49 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/puvR1FS.png?1 Well I think I completed Headless |
| 21:35.58 | Hachiman | Came out less impressive than I wanted him to be really |
| 21:37.25 | OluapPlayer | Looks good nonetheless |
| 21:38.10 | Hachiman | Fuck making a horse for him though hur |
| 21:38.51 | Monet | Could ask Xho. |
| 21:39.11 | OluapPlayer | Hez'Kalka - surprise bitch |
| 21:51.00 | OluapPlayer | That was the most page updating i've done in ages |
| 21:56.23 | Technobliterator | only 7 pages |
| 21:56.26 | Technobliterator | scrub |
| 21:57.31 | Xho | 7 |
| 21:57.34 | Xho | NUMBER OF THE VOID |
| 21:57.37 | Xho | PRASE CALIGADURO and stuff |
| 21:58.11 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/lnhDVa9.png?1 What a hot head |
| 21:58.27 | OluapPlayer | Yes, the only 7 outdated pages I got |
| 21:58.32 | OluapPlayer | Which are now up to date |
| 21:58.36 | OluapPlayer | universal order is restored |
| 21:58.48 | Technobliterator | I have like |
| 21:58.53 | Technobliterator | so many UNO pages I want to just delete |
| 21:59.04 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: SOMEONE GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE |
| 22:03.25 | Hachiman | I was going to make Headless an Eirishman so he could go around talking in an Irish accent and calling people eejits hur |
| 22:03.53 | Hachiman | Also pertains to the fact that Dullahans are Irish |
| 22:03.58 | OluapPlayer | Eirishman |
| 22:04.04 | OluapPlayer | y not just say irish |
| 22:04.21 | Hachiman | Because there is an actual place in Koldenwelt called Eirland |
| 22:04.29 | Xho | rekt |
| 22:04.42 | Cyrannian|Away | I prefer gobshite, though eejit will do |
| 22:04.52 | OluapPlayer | I thought Headless git was meant to come from the Duskwoods |
| 22:05.13 | Hachiman | Eirish heritage then hur |
| 22:05.43 | Hachiman | So you have Headless going around saying feck, eejit, gobshite, tits, arse, and biscuits |
| 22:05.44 | Xho | X'impe - [triggered] |
| 22:06.00 | OluapPlayer | dats jus hathgar with no hed |
| 22:06.26 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/p235x350/439_1174138332610042_5365706968734299905_n.jpg?oh=2242c970a12f5772c85437824a4ce0dd&oe=5796D1D7 What the |
| 22:06.37 | Xho | Italian Vixaatus incoming |
| 22:06.51 | OluapPlayer | You didn't know that? |
| 22:06.55 | Xho | Nope |
| 22:07.03 | Xho | I ain't a Nintendo fanboy liek u |
| 22:07.08 | OluapPlayer | Vixaatus - eet sand-a |
| 22:08.01 | Cyrannian|Away | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Worlds_of_Calithilaen - Some stuff has been done |
| 22:08.17 | OluapPlayer | y u rename it |
| 22:08.19 | OluapPlayer | dum chicken |
| 22:08.47 | Technobliterator | oh my god |
| 22:08.48 | Technobliterator | http://i.imgur.com/CoWWEmu.png |
| 22:08.51 | Cyrannian|Away | Rename the page or rename the system? |
| 22:08.51 | Technobliterator | this would be the most epic thing |
| 22:09.24 | OluapPlayer | it not twelve worlds anymor |
| 22:09.25 | OluapPlayer | dat |
| 22:09.30 | Xho | "Athane, the capital, is known for its rainy weather" |
| 22:09.43 | Xho | Highest concentration of Kicath in Cyrannus |
| 22:10.18 | Cyrannian|Away | I didn't rename the Twelve Worlds, the UWC expands beyond them though |
| 22:10.35 | Cyrannian|Away | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/76/United_Worlds_of_Calithilaen.png/revision/latest?cb=20160329215619 - see top right corner of map |
| 22:11.29 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 22:11.33 | OluapPlayer | Alright then |
| 22:12.27 | Hachiman | Ooh nice work |
| 22:13.37 | Hachiman | Hm, I think I need a less generic title than "Headless Horseman" |
| 22:13.47 | Hachiman | I mean I plan for Headless to have an actual name |
| 22:13.58 | Hachiman | But he needs a good title that people would refer to him by |
| 22:14.07 | OluapPlayer | Horseman With No Head |
| 22:14.11 | Hachiman | fukn |
| 22:14.25 | OluapPlayer | top heehee |
| 22:14.43 | Hachiman | inb4 Headless Horseless Horseman |
| 22:14.50 | Xho | Equine Rider Without Skull |
| 22:15.14 | OluapPlayer | HOOOOOOOOOOOOORSE |
| 22:15.19 | Xho | man |
| 22:15.38 | Xho | Oh I made myself laugh saying that |
| 22:15.42 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 22:15.48 | Xho | "Equine Rider Without Skull" so stupid yet so funny |
| 22:18.02 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: wake up u |
| 22:18.36 | Xho | Unicorn Mounter With a Severe Lack of Cranial Capacity |
| 22:18.42 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 22:18.47 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 22:20.05 | Hachiman | I still gotta figure a way out as to why Headless is the way he is |
| 22:20.08 | Hachiman | His condition I mean |
| 22:20.17 | Hachiman | That or I could just keep it ambiguous |
| 22:21.00 | OluapPlayer | If he's a dullahan, he could be a fey of some description |
| 22:21.31 | Hachiman | Well I was thinking he was once a human |
| 22:23.31 | Xho | "He was born without a head :,C" |
| 22:23.39 | Hachiman | fukn |
| 22:23.47 | Xho | puns are fire tonight |
| 22:23.49 | Hachiman | 1 like 1 prayer |
| 22:23.53 | OluapPlayer | no hed mann |
| 22:23.57 | Xho | Gonna make sure I don't |
| 22:23.59 | Xho | LOSE MY HEAD |
| 22:24.05 | OluapPlayer | HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:24.22 | Hachiman | Nothing wrong with a HEADstart |
| 22:25.13 | OluapPlayer | ur gettin a lil ahead of urself m8 |
| 22:25.15 | Hachiman | Eh that fell kinda flat, should have quit while I was AHEAD |
| 22:25.21 | Hachiman | fuk OFF NINJA |
| 22:25.27 | OluapPlayer | ayy |
| 22:28.26 | Hachiman | But yeah, I figured that Headless could have once been human and then something happened in the Duskwoods to make him into what he currently is |
| 22:32.51 | Xho | like |
| 22:32.54 | Xho | decapitated |
| 22:33.03 | Hachiman | Well yeah hur |
| 22:33.11 | Xho | #genius |
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| 22:37.51 | Monet | Hello |
| 22:38.49 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 22:39.59 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 22:43.34 | Xho | One fiction I would like to redo is the Annihilaton |
| 22:43.38 | Xho | Annihilation even |
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| 22:49.42 | dino82_ | hi all |
| 22:50.10 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 22:51.26 | dino82_ | Hi Tybusen! That has been a whle :D |
| 22:51.29 | dino82_ | How are you doing! |
| 22:51.36 | Tybusen | I'm doing well |
| 22:51.55 | Tybusen | Just started spring quarter at university |
| 22:52.32 | dino82_ | oh nice! |
| 22:58.11 | Monet | Nice to hear. Are you enjoying it? |
| 22:58.45 | Tybusen | Yeah, I guess |
| 22:59.08 | Tybusen | I have to get up at 8 AM on Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday though |
| 23:02.09 | Wormy_away | Cyrannian|Away should go into Design |
| 23:03.52 | dino82_ | long days? Lots of homework? Or is it doable? |
| 23:05.33 | Wormy_away | Honestly he has a real eye for it http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:United_Worlds_of_Calithilaen.png |
| 23:05.45 | Tybusen | It's doable, it's just that 8 AM classes suuuuuuck |
| 23:05.51 | Wormy_away | My only feedback is thaet some of the text is is behind the blue shade |
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| 23:06.41 | Wormy_away | and all needs to be in the foreground |
| 23:07.40 | Tybusen | I might just have to borrow a few of Cyr's design choices for my own fiction maps |
| 23:09.13 | Wormy_ | I had to learn design elements and principles and tbh I have long way to go, but some people are naturally talented at it |
| 23:10.19 | Tybusen | I saw some awful design at a baseball stadium last week |
| 23:10.53 | Tybusen | Red text contrasted against an out-of-focus image of a stadium crowd, who were mainly wearing white and red |
| 23:11.02 | Monet | Eww |
| 23:11.29 | Tybusen | Couldn't even be bothered to put a border around the text or anything |
| 23:12.02 | Wormy_ | I think Cyrannian should study it it to hone his skills. |
| 23:12.18 | Wormy_ | Like many users here, also talented in design, are. |
| 23:12.22 | Tybusen | It's things like that that demonstrate that graphic design is not something taken lightly |
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| 23:24.03 | dino82_ | @tybusen: Haha it is quite early but normal hours I guess for work and such |
| 23:24.33 | dino82_ | but early enough to be thaught haha |
| 23:34.30 | Monet | I have yet to have a class start before 10. |
| 23:34.43 | Monet | Then again university can have me working until 8pm in the evening |
| 23:34.59 | Monet | And then even longer when I get home |
| 23:35.26 | dino82_ | now that is loooooooong |
| 23:35.33 | dino82_ | that almost half of the evening |
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| 23:51.53 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:52.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 23:56.28 | TekDroid | Woo. They're trying to removal a couple of our student association's corrupt SJW leadership. |
| 23:59.32 | DrodoEmpire | yuy |
