IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160324

00:00.17DrodoEmpireI don't even know XD
00:02.15Thunderlord1234hmm
00:08.40Thunderlord1234Do people on this wiki allow you to instantly do stuff
00:08.58MonetLike what?
00:09.13Thunderlord1234because i just idk it would be like if i could kill President Kitravasuron Vanlirasan  without a single no
00:09.57DrodoEmpireNo
00:10.02DrodoEmpireThat's *super* against the rules
00:10.07MonetYou'd need consent from other users in order to involve their fictions.
00:10.11DrodoEmpire^
00:10.19MonetAnd most of the time they'll have a say in what their fiction does.
00:14.37Thunderlord1234I See interspecies exist on the wiki
00:14.47DrodoEmpireThat's right
00:15.58Thunderlord1234can i get a page link of 2 people of 2 different species who married each other
00:16.12Thunderlord1234no need to mention the bad stuff
00:17.34MonetActual interpsecies babies tend to be next-to-nonexistant
00:17.55MonetThe only real examples were born though either scientific or supernatural means.
00:17.58Thunderlord1234because i saw cyrannians sneaky Should Ramashe and Apollo become a couple?
00:20.42DrodoEmpireHmm, I don't have any character examples myself though there's this - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ABorderlander_(Franco-Drodo)_Culture
00:21.20Thunderlord1234i like the old drodo design
00:21.25DrodoEmpireI hate it
00:21.26DrodoEmpire:p
00:21.28DrodoEmpireThey
00:21.32Thunderlord1234they seem like non realistic yet good bird looking humanoids
00:21.34DrodoEmpire*They're humanoid, now
00:21.47DrodoEmpireNot birds either, though. >.< Vaguely mammalian
00:22.05DrodoEmpireThey're a cultural blend of French and Drodo. I've yet to write about it but by early 2810s a method would've been produced so humans and Drodo can actually have hybrid children
00:24.26Thunderlord1234i think this theme would fit one of monet's/imperios/drodo/cyrannian's empire's
00:24.29Thunderlord1234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i99fdfaIXbo
00:25.37CyrannianNight folks
00:26.56Thunderlord1234my reaction to find out there mammalia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc\
00:26.58Thunderlord1234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
00:29.08DrodoEmpireWhy's that bad? :p
00:33.02Thunderlord1234It's just that i saw them have bird mouth's and wing's
00:33.28DrodoEmpire...Odd
00:33.32DrodoEmpireNever added those
00:35.11Thunderlord1234i saw them with a ommnivore mouth
00:35.12Thunderlord1234and short
00:36.55DrodoEmpirehttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/aa/Drodo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140607001547 - A more modern look of the Drodo
00:37.11DrodoEmpireShort-ish, lean and muscular humanoids who use agility over brute strength
00:38.39DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/31a605844422faeccc33a3a9293029c8.png - Additionally, a sketch I made of a Drodo lancer a while ago
00:42.53Thunderlord1234how do my humans i made for the virginian empire look http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Cutness|500902650992%3Asast-501030605462%3Apg-20
00:44.13DrodoEmpireLooks okay
00:44.26DrodoEmpireThough if you so choose I believe there is a human template on the wiki
00:44.29DrodoEmpireUp to you though
00:46.37Thunderlord1234Could you're drodo's beat this guy http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-Night_Rave%3Afi-name%2Cauthor%2Ctags%2Cdescription%3Afu-CREATURE%2CTRIBE_CREATURE%2CCIV_CREATURE%2CSPACE_CREATURE%2CADVENTURE_CREATURE%2CCITY_HALL%2CHOUSE%2CINDUSTRY%2CENTERTAINMENT%2CUFO%2CADV_ATTACK%2CADV_COLLECT%2CADV_DEFEND%2CADV_EXPLORE%2CADV_UNSET%2CADV_PUZZLE%2CADV_QUEST%2CADV_SOCIALIZE%2CADV_STORY%2CADV_TEMPLATE%3Am-LAND%2CAIR%2CWATER%3
00:47.47Thunderlord1234i meant http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/964/401/500964401030_lrg.png
00:47.59DrodoEmpireDunno, depends? :p
00:48.11DrodoEmpireIf you mean the average Drodo infantryman, possibly
00:48.13Thunderlord1234Tall And Smart Creations of The Darkling's
00:48.23Thunderlord1234they have magic and use There claws in melee
00:49.00DrodoEmpireThe Drodo infantryman is generally equipped with augmented body-armour, an assault rifle, pistol, and a sword bayonet. :p
00:49.18DrodoEmpireAlongside a few hand grenades, and possibly a full-length sword if they're an officer, or from certain regiments
00:50.16Thunderlord1234what about this guy http://static.spore.com/static/image/501/029/960/501029960037_lrg.png
00:50.27DrodoEmpireAgain, depends greatly
00:50.46Thunderlord1234Armed With A Shield That Project's and stops bullets  And With A Magical Hammer A Exosuit And A Tiny Plasma Pistol
00:51.00DrodoEmpireRight, still, depends. :p
00:51.21TechnobliteratorYou're Still Doing that thing Where You use Capitals randomly and It's Not Correct English
00:51.27TechnobliteratorIt's Kind of a Bit Off-putting
00:51.32Thunderlord1234I know.
00:51.38The_RandomnessIt Really Hurts My Eyes Reading It
00:51.44DrodoEmpireThe shield might be an issue, though to be fair Drodo firearms fire their rounds many times faster than the speed of sound
00:52.15DrodoEmpireRight, he gets it guys. :p
00:52.45Thunderlord1234but i can't help it.
00:54.00The_RandomnessWith that attitude you can't :p
00:54.39TechnobliteratorYou can get out of bad habits by forcing yourself out of them
00:55.02Thunderlord1234i am actually happy.
00:55.29TechnobliteratorUh, not sure what being happy has to do with grammar
00:56.50Thunderlord1234anyone, else have drawings of there race.
00:57.50MonetThunderlord1234: A few
00:57.50DrodoEmpireMonet does a lot of art stuff
00:59.28Thunderlord1234is there anyone that has a race of no classification
00:59.32Thunderlord1234Not related to humans
01:00.10TechnobliteratorSee, you're using caps right now
01:00.13Technobliteratorkeep it up :o
01:00.41Thunderlord1234wait is that a serious block warning
01:00.50MonetNo.
01:01.59MonetShe's encouraging you're using grammer right.
01:02.20Thunderlord1234Techno's A She?
01:02.23TechnobliteratorYes
01:02.29Technobliteratorbah
01:02.32Technobliteratoryou were doing so well
01:02.33Technobliterator;_;
01:03.11Thunderlord1234cool anyway you can go back to discussing normal topic's if you wish.
01:03.25Thunderlord1234AWESOME
01:04.30Thunderlord1234Am i Right Techno!!!!!!!
01:04.31DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/YiojOyH.jpg
01:05.22Technobliteratoruh
01:05.26TechnobliteratorRight about what?
01:05.47Technobliteratorlmao drodo
01:07.32DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/1ClJQWk.jpg - China's made me laugh
01:09.25MonetSpain: Problem? Take a siesta!
01:09.36DrodoEmpirehur
01:12.45Thunderlord1234techno
01:12.54Thunderlord1234if i bought you a gift would you not block me ?
01:13.44DrodoEmpireNobody's wanting you blocked
01:13.54DrodoEmpireYou don't need to appease the admins. :p
01:14.55Thunderlord1234k
01:15.15TechnobliteratorWhy would I want to block you? ?_?
01:16.07Thunderlord1234i broke rules
01:16.09Thunderlord1234:(
01:16.19TechnobliteratorWhich ones?
01:16.27TechnobliteratorAnd how long ago?
01:17.16Thunderlord1234idk
01:17.21Thunderlord1234do i deserve to be banned
01:17.23Thunderlord1234ma'am
01:17.33Technobliterator...No?
01:17.59TechnobliteratorBut if you keep asking me if I should ban you, I will start to suspect you have something to hide
01:18.09DrodoEmpireYou were already punished for what you did as far as I know
01:18.18DrodoEmpireSo no, you have done nothing to deserve banning
01:18.38TechnobliteratorJust because I have an @ sign in front of my username doesn't mean I'm scarier than these people
01:18.45dromMonet DrodoEmpire ImpyDroid: Just hit me: why does Putin look almost like James Bond?
01:18.48TechnobliteratorOr any different from them
01:20.09Monetdrom: He looks good in a suit, it seems
01:20.39Thunderlord1234but but
01:20.42Thunderlord1234can i make a excuse
01:20.44MonetRegarding the music Thunderlord linked...I have no idea wh oit fits.
01:20.49TechnobliteratorFor what?
01:21.25Thunderlord1234i'm actually scared and nervous
01:21.33Thunderlord1234Just Kidding it was a joke the entire time.
01:22.26dromThunderlord1234: Just FYI, I'm afraid you are digging yourself a grave
01:23.07Thunderlord1234But i actually wanted to say that you're fiction is pretty amazing like other's and you are a great admin to be hired by these people.
01:26.44Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lii5B_y3Bvo this is a theme I think suits the Di
01:26.56TechnobliteratorWell, I appreciate the compliment, but you didn't need to flagellate yourself as a preface to that
01:27.28dromSuffice to say: "Technobliterator, I really like your fiction, it is pretty amazing."
01:28.17TechnobliteratorAnd I'm not convinced the compliment is not just meant to appease me because you're "scared and nervous" for...some reason?
01:28.40dromPerhaps afraid of authority?
01:29.31dromWhatever it is about. I need some goddamn sleep right now.
01:29.37dromSee ya.
01:29.46Thunderlord1234yes authority
01:52.54Technobliterator<PROTECTED>
01:53.17TechnobliteratorHonest question, am I really that scary?
01:54.50DrodoEmpireNo. XD
01:55.20DrodoEmpirelaughs nervously
01:55.27DrodoEmpireNot at- at all...
01:55.28DrodoEmpire<.<
01:55.36Technobliteratorpft
01:55.39MonetYou can be, but anger tends to do that.
01:57.16DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/13sEVCk.gifv - when your cavalry gets shot by a musket volley in Total War
02:09.10The_Randomnesslol
02:11.13DrodoEmpireBut seriously. 1100$ sabre cavalry all shot to shit by pissant levy infantry. >.<
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08:35.24AdmiralPandahi all
08:36.52ImpyDroid2Hi
08:37.16ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda: Been trying to ask you this question for ages, were there any big two-handed Indian swords?
08:37.28AdmiralPandaI don't think so
08:37.53ImpyDroid2Every Indian blade I heard of - khanda, talwar, that wrist blade thing, etc - were one-handed
08:37.57ImpyDroid2*was
08:37.59ImpyDroid2Right
08:38.01AdmiralPandafrom what I can think of India's history, they wouldn't really have had reason to develop large swords
08:38.39ImpyDroid2Hmm?
08:40.28ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda Liquid_Ink: http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1458808769968.png Drider shitposting
08:41.11AdmiralPandaok, two main reasons: one, weapons are designed around the defences of the day- in the indian subcontinent plate armour was nonexistent, instead you had mostly leather and the odd chain later on, so slashing weapons would have been favoured over straight thrusting weapons,
08:41.22ImpyDroid2rite
08:41.35ImpyDroid2Would make sense given the climate and early development of firearms
08:41.50AdmiralPandaand secondly, the war sword and greatsword were developed more for cavalry and formation use against pikes respectively, two things which didn't happen (at least not in the same way) in india
08:42.24AdmiralPandaas in, Indian cavalry didn't emphasise the charge, which war swords were suited for
08:45.32Halopediaman>not using the Aztec Macuahuital
08:45.51AdmiralPandaobsidian clubs were wannabe swords and everyone knows it
08:46.19HalopediamanAll lies!
08:46.46AdmiralPandaif you want a truly badass weapon, the crossbow
08:47.12AdmiralPandathe church actually banned it from the christian world because it was too effective in the hands of a peasant
08:47.40HalopediamanAnd then we discovered the gun and mass production.
08:49.00AdmiralPandait was still a very long time for the musket to overtake the bow, the crossbow had an immediate effect and a tiny lifespan
08:50.49ImpyDroid2Crossbow is best weapon
08:51.27ImpyDroid2Not sure what is better though: the Chinese crossbow or the Italian/European one
08:52.16ImpyDroid2Weren't they a chore to reload tho
08:52.22AdmiralPandachinese for rate of fire, late european for sheer fuckery
08:52.51AdmiralPandalight crossbows were pretty easy, basically involved crouching and standing back up, it was the really heavy ones that needed their own pulleys
08:55.02HalopediamanBest crossbow is one you can mount on the back of a wagon and use as a siege weapon.
08:55.21AdmiralPandanot really, by the time you get that big you might as well have a manglonel
08:55.26ImpyDroid2Wouldn't that be a ballista
08:55.52HalopediamanNot if you simply call it a crossbow.
08:55.55AdmiralPandaor even better, soak a wicker ball in oil, set up at the top of a hill and roll the burning balls into the enemy ranks
08:56.07AdmiralPandaor fire said burning ball from said manglonel
08:56.32AdmiralPandathen, you take the severed heads of the fallen, soak THEM in oil, and launch them over the walls with a trebuchet!
08:56.43AdmiralPandawhile they're on fire, naturally
08:57.08ImpyDroid2That is some Warhammer level shit
08:57.14AdmiralPandathat's actually history
08:57.19HalopediamanYeah I was gonna say :P
08:57.24AdmiralPandalike, that actually happened, multiple times
08:57.34ImpyDroid2I am not surprised hur
08:58.13ImpyDroid2Nothing beats Ukrainian anarchist gatling gun carts though
08:58.26ImpyDroid2That comes much later of course but still
08:58.46ImpyDroid2Horse carts that you put a Maxim gun on and shoot people who are chasing you or vice versa
08:59.13HalopediamanWhat's better though AdmiralPanda
08:59.26HalopediamanIs when you cause use things like that for biological warfare.
08:59.36HalopediamanLike that time the Mongols gave Caffa the plague.
08:59.49AdmiralPandabiological warfare takes too long
09:00.06AdmiralPandaI mean it's effective, don't get me wrong, but quick win always good
09:00.06HalopediamanMaybe, but the Mongols got the last laugh over Europe with that one. :P
09:00.42AdmiralPandathe best case of biological warfare though is of course the spanish invasion of central america
09:02.36HalopediamanHmm
09:02.43HalopediamanAll this talk makes me want to play CK2
09:09.23ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda: SMALLPOX MOTHERFUCKERS
09:27.36ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda: Anyway the reason I asked you about the swords is because I am trying to figure out what sword should I give to Quendoe
09:27.38ImpyDroid2*Quendoe
09:27.43ImpyDroid2*Quendor
09:27.58ImpyDroid2Something two-handed but relatively light and good for fencing
09:28.13ImpyDroid2OTHER than a katana
09:28.38AdmiralPandatwo-handed and good for fencing (at least in the traditional term for fencing) don't mix
09:29.16ImpyDroid2Well something you could wield with relative finesse
09:29.34ImpyDroid2I understand most two handed swords were basically for smacking but still
09:29.38AdmiralPandatwo-handed grips significantly restrict what you can do with the blade, and the increased length compounds that- if you want finesse you're looking at a one handed blade
09:29.58AdmiralPandathey were not for smacking -.- they were for chopping
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09:30.19ImpyDroid2hi
09:30.25GhelaeHello.
09:30.37ImpyDroid2Probably just going to give him a khanda then
09:30.43ImpyDroid2Though it was more for chopping too
09:31.57AdmiralPandaif you're looking for finesse you're really looking at duelling swords
09:32.25ImpyDroid2Or a longer jian
09:32.30ImpyDroid2Actually a jian works
09:32.56AdmiralPandaultimately it comes down to the fact that swords designed for actual combat are much better at murdering things, finessing swords were more for looking posh and refined
09:48.13Halopediaman[04:30] <AdmiralPanda> they were not for smacking -.- they were for chopping <- Not with that attitude. :P
09:48.26AdmiralPandaif you're going to smack something use a hammer
09:48.41AdmiralPanday'know, the weapon actually designed for smacking things
09:48.54HalopediamanOr maybe a Macuahuital. :v
09:49.18AdmiralPandaslashing weapon
09:50.21Halopediaman"Obsidian club" he says.
09:50.46AdmiralPandabecause that's the strict definition of what it is, but it does damage by merit of having obsidian blades
09:50.57AdmiralPandai.e., it cuts things, rather than dealing damage by blunt force
09:52.25Halopediaman"Strict definition" he says.
09:53.38AdmiralPandathe strict definition of a club is a short staff or stick-like weapon, typically made of wood
09:54.10AdmiralPandaI'd like to point out, you're not actually improving your point at the moment, you're just being annoying
09:54.18HalopediamanFirst you disrespect the Sun God's people by calling it a wannabe sword, then again by refusing to let it be a wannabe not-sword. Next you'll tell me it's not good for fencing and can't be handled with 'relative finesse'.
09:55.48AdmiralPandait's not good for fencing, and can't be used with comparable finesse, because the balance of weight is towards the head (which it should be for a club), making it unwieldy to redirect mid-swing
09:56.05HalopediamanAdmiralPanda, if I actually had a point I'd be making real points. Not everyone is calling you out for a real debate, calm down.
09:56.49AdmiralPanda[19:50] <Halopediaman> "Obsidian club" he says. < shit like this, generally flags me as "I'm now just being an arse for the sake of stirring you up"
10:01.19HalopediamanI mean if you want to be quick to draw and get 'stirred up' about overeasy facetious comments that's your choice. You could just as easily ignore me if it bothered you that much, though I assure you the goal was in no way to rile you up.
10:02.08HalopediamanI specifically planted the "not good for fencing and can't be handled with 'relative finesse'" torpedo in my own response to try and convey this.
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11:24.59ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda: Quendor's fighting style is basically unique compared to all other Radeons in that he is the only Radeon who does not smack things
11:25.05ImpyDroid2Or shoot things or magics things
11:25.23ImpyDroid2*magic
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11:34.09AdmiralPandain that instance his fighting style and weapon choice would be dominated by the traditions of whoever taught him
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11:37.43Thunderlord1234Wassup
11:42.28dromImpyDroid2: Which PAE party do you believe NS would fit in the most?
11:45.32ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda: http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/PXt7ev1.jpg
11:45.41ImpyDroid2drom: Hmmm
11:46.18AdmiralPandaif only XD
11:46.36Thunderlord1234anyone have insectoid race's
11:46.44dromI had.
11:46.55dromImpyDroid2: That comic was glorious
11:49.00dromwhere is the political map of Andromeda grrr
11:49.10Thunderlord1234link please
11:49.29Thunderlord1234the ones with stingers get extra credit
11:50.10dromImpyDroid2: See what I found! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Andromeda_War_battleplan.png
11:50.21ImpyDroid2Ye Olde Map
11:50.30ImpyDroid2My masterpiece
11:51.31Thunderlord1234The Grox are dieing
11:51.33Thunderlord1234oh my god
11:51.33dromAnyway. Found the territorial map of Andromeda http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c4/Map_Of_Andromeda_Territories_V3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150510183753
11:51.46dromFrom March 2015
11:51.48ImpyDroid2That is pretty old
11:51.58dromDoesn't matter much anyway, I'm going to do a SVG remake of it
11:52.09ImpyDroid2But you can use it as a base
11:52.18dromSo anyone can modify it without any loss or cost of quality
11:52.21dromand pixels
11:52.31Thunderlord1234You know what the cyrannian empire should attack
11:52.36Thunderlord1234while the grox is being doomed
11:52.48dromYeah, ImpyDroid2. I'm going to use it as a base to trace out the territories in GIMP then export it an SVG editor for further graphical editing.
11:53.10dromIn this case, Inkscape.
11:53.12ImpyDroid2The Grox in Andromeda are already dead
11:53.39ImpyDroid2drom: I think we should wait for Mon to make a shattered Andromeda imagine
11:53.41ImpyDroid2image
11:54.49dromImpyDroid2: SVG images take time to make and produce, I rather think it is a good idea to get it started already. So I can then throw in some faux clouds resembling the galaxy itself.
11:55.07ImpyDroid2rite so it is going to be stylised
11:55.15ImpyDroid2good idea
11:55.19dromLot of gradients against a black ground that is
11:55.55dromExcept it is a political map, so the territories, administrative divison and the astrology is in focus
11:56.24dromThat means, the physical appearance will be more transparent than usual.
11:57.20dromAaaand, time for path-tracing!
11:58.18ImpyDroid2drom: We should use this to trigger Wormy and Monet http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1458813277376.gif
11:59.08ImpyDroid2drom: I have an idea about the map
12:00.50dromSure, go ahead
12:00.53Thunderlord1234Oh my god those territories are big the confederate's only recently emerged
12:01.15dromImpyDroid2: Oh, one note too: Since I cannot afford curves, everything will be flat and angular
12:02.21Thunderlord1234wow that's amazing drom
12:04.48dromImpyDroid2: Does Segmetnum Draco Federal Union still exist?
12:05.07ImpyDroid2Yeah presumably
12:05.19dromAlright they'll be added right the way!
12:06.19ImpyDroid2Anyway do how about this
12:06.42ImpyDroid2PAE = one big white blob in the center
12:07.06ImpyDroid2However it is multicoloured depending on the status of each province
12:07.38ImpyDroid2And territories made from several provinces, like the DI, are marked with coloured outlines
12:07.55ImpyDroid2Inside the blob
12:10.10dromHm. How about I just designate a list?
12:10.43ImpyDroid2hmm?
12:15.28dromMe thinks creating a such blob with said provinces inside would be a bit hassle due to layering and attempts to offset the borders so any territories that make up PAE's territorial intergity can still be distingushed
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12:29.02Thunderlord1234can the confederate's be added
12:29.04Thunderlord1234Or No
12:30.09dromI can add them for you. But I've not finished adding the previous territories yet.
12:30.29dromSecondly, I need to know where would you like have them to be? How big?
12:30.46dromTake this for reference, Thunderlord1234: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c4/Map_Of_Andromeda_Territories_V3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150510183753
12:30.47Thunderlord1234very small
12:30.53Thunderlord12342 terrortories
12:30.58Thunderlord1234sorry for that,
12:31.15Thunderlord1234and oh my that's small
12:31.29dromThe galaxy is so big, that the smallest territories you can see are spanning over ten thousand stars, iirc.
12:31.58Thunderlord1234i can't really see sorry.
12:32.01dromEch, I think I inadvertably exaggrated.
12:32.08dromBut give it a shot
12:32.58Thunderlord1234this seems much cooler http://orig01.deviantart.net/6128/f/2011/329/0/9/new_origin___galaxy_map_by_levodoom-d4h8hyg.png
12:34.54Thunderlord1234if you could get permisison from the guy
12:35.00Thunderlord1234it would be amazing.
12:37.14TekDroidThat's not from the wiki?
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12:39.43TekDroidIf you're talking about new galaxies the wiki policy is a definite no.
12:40.34TekDroidAnd no Oluap, you didn't just walk into a conversation you need to freak out about or anything.
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12:41.14Thunderlord1234well then it's gonna be hard to see
12:41.16OluapPlayerI didn't even say anything :v
12:42.13Thunderlord1234The Galaxy Map
12:44.24Wormy_hi
12:44.50TekDroidHey Wormy_
12:45.02Thunderlord1234Hello Fellow Wiki User.
12:45.44Wormy_<PROTECTED>
12:47.29ImpyDroid2Hi
12:47.52ImpyDroid2Wormy_: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1458813277376.gif Feel free to weep
12:48.22Wormy_Why do you want to ,ake me weep
12:48.45Wormy_Anyway, Britain is getting a spaceport soon with a space mining company
12:48.49Thunderlord1234how do you like the page know btw how do i add military http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Virginian_Confederation
12:48.56Wormy_We will rule a space empire before any of you
12:49.58Thunderlord1234could anyone tell me.
12:53.50TekDroidThunderlord1234: Why did you capitalize every word?
12:55.19Thunderlord1234i don't know
12:56.06dromImpyDroid2: Something for you who consider AIs http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-sex-robot-wit/
12:56.13Wormy_ImpyDroid2:  Actually it feels likie Scotland with secede and then even England will split up into Ango Saxon states
12:56.22Wormy_*Anglo
12:56.39Thunderlord1234YES I Agree
12:57.00dromWormy_ ImpyDroid2: https://twitter.com/geraldmellor/status/712880710328139776?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
12:57.10Wormy_<PROTECTED>
12:57.11dromBest to keep Ghelaway away from 4chan and Twitter
12:57.15Wormy_Well they got that bit right
12:57.34ImpyDroid2Skynet in her youth
12:58.51dromAlso, Wormy_ TekDroid Technobliterator: Google being glorious: https://www.google.ch/search?q=blink+tag
12:59.14TekDroidSaw that already
12:59.26Wormy_seizuretastic
12:59.45Wormy_Its like the old days of the internet
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13:00.47dromHai monet
13:00.55MonetHello
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13:02.00dromUgh. Why do Drodo and Lesser Zarni have the same territory color
13:02.04Thunderlord1234AM I RIGHT
13:02.16Thunderlord1234Also What's WROng with my FICTon
13:02.38ImpyDroid2Grammarrrrer
13:02.41TekDroidDrom: I swear there's half a dozen with a similar blue
13:02.47ImpyDroid2FIX YOUR CAPITALISATION GRRRR
13:03.00ImpyDroid2Hi Mon
13:03.10Thunderlord1234i'm messing with you hahahaha
13:03.14Thunderlord1234i can fix it
13:03.39TekDroidOh wait, the blue's not as bad as I remember
13:04.31dromTekDroid: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c4/Map_Of_Andromeda_Territories_V3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150510183753
13:04.42drommfw Naakjian and Tertamian have the same color
13:05.18Thunderlord1234drom: o you LIKE MY FICTION
13:05.32TekDroidThat map has way too many similar colours
13:05.56drommffw
13:06.51drommffwf I cannot tell Kicath and AGC apart
13:07.47MonetI tried basing the colours on the factions but it was a pain.
13:07.52dromImpyDroid2: NTA too bigge, plz nerf
13:08.33dromMonet: I'm remkaing the map in SVG. That means every territory will have borders.
13:08.35MonetBoth the CyraEmp's and Kicath Empire's national colours at the tiem were grey.
13:08.42dromCiv 5 style borders.
13:08.51dromWhich solves everything
13:11.01Thunderlord1234DRFOM
13:11.03Thunderlord1234DROM'
13:11.17dromYes?
13:11.39Thunderlord1234do you like my fiction page
13:12.46dromCannot tell now.
13:13.04dromFor one I'm busy tracing the old territories and I've to get going now.
13:13.07dromSee ya.
13:16.03dromSecondly, Thunderlord1234: I've not not read your fiction yet, but I promise I will when given the chance
13:55.20TekDroidOh yeah, two hour Stellaris livestream starts in a few minutes.
13:56.32Wormy_hi
14:00.31Wormy_People who say autism is a tragedy, and people who say it's beautiful both piss me off http://imgur.com/gallery/HATdLh3
14:04.16MonetMuch of the beauty seems to be from the Autistic Savant.
14:08.34Wormy_Of which there are very few.  Actually most higher functioning autistic people are gifted with an amazing ability to learn particular subjects/skills, which is a good focus.  *But*, my experience is that such obsessions can be limiting and distracting, the reality is that its harder for autistic adults and depression is high
14:10.07MonetYeah the number of known savants may be disproportionate to the number of known autistics
14:11.18MonetTBut knowing how becoming famous works, "its harder for me" gats you points.
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14:24.52Wormy_drom, Monet, Ghelaway:  Made some sci-fi galleries http://wormulon.deviantart.com/favourites/68773223/Retro-70-s-style-sci-fi  http://wormulon.deviantart.com/favourites/68773226/Speculative-SF http://wormulon.deviantart.com/favourites/68773235/Cyberpunk http://wormulon.deviantart.com/favourites/68773238/Conceptual-reason-technical-and-abstract http://wormulon.deviantart.com/favourites/68773236/Derbyshire-landscapes-and-history
14:25.34Ghelawayhas a look
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14:38.29HachimanSPRING BREEEAAAAK
14:38.45OluapPlayerew shoo
14:39.31Wormy_hi
14:40.38Monetpulls off his shirt and swings it around his head
14:41.18TekDroidMy spring break was over a month ago. :/
14:41.28HachimanTwo weeks free and I still gotta do work through it hur
14:41.42HachimanNeed to visit my college and get animation and modelling work done
14:41.53HachimanThen I also gotta plan my final major project
14:42.04OluapPlayerSo
14:42.08OluapPlayerIt's not really a break at all
14:42.18HachimanWell officially it is
14:42.20HachimanJust not for me
14:44.18MonetI have a similar deal
14:44.26MonetExcept my final major project is next year
14:44.34MonetWelcoem to higher education.
14:46.41Wormy_I'm pretty much going to do as much work as I'm doing now
14:47.46Wormy_I want something like this on my site, but more responsive http://stemkoski.github.io/Three.js/Sprite-Text-Labels.html
14:48.38Wormy_Secondly, I want to study agent based modelling, and use fluid dynamics to make visualisations geological processes.  And part of my module is to research ways of getting funding. which overwhelms me a little
14:49.30Wormy_Got less than 2 months so I can't afford to take time off, and anyway, if you enjoy something, its all good
14:49.51Wormy_Though atm I am distracted by sci-fi art
14:50.30MonetHave to say, I agree.
14:51.40MonetPassion and enjoyment can be the difference between "Just a bit more to it" and "please, let this end!!!"
14:52.11Wormy_It was only through passion I got an upper first for my dissertation
14:59.37ImpyDroid2<PROTECTED>
14:59.48HachimanIt's not uni
14:59.50HachimanIt's college
15:00.09ImpyDroid2Oh
15:00.36ImpyDroid2I'll be off studying local dialects in July
15:00.42ImpyDroid2And exams in June
15:00.52ImpyDroid2So I only have one month of free time hur
15:01.39OluapPlayerWhen are you not having exams
15:02.31ImpyDroid2I only have four months of exams
15:02.51ImpyDroid2Late December, January, late May, June
15:03.11OluapPlayerEvery time you talk about college you say you're having either exams or essays
15:03.13OluapPlayerSometimes both
15:03.59ImpyDroid2Uni not college
15:04.18ImpyDroid2Am I some sort of pleb to study in college hue
15:04.41ImpyDroid2(Russian colleges are generally viewed in low regard)
15:04.44OluapPlayerCollege and uni are the same thing over here
15:04.54ImpyDroid2Right
15:05.11TechnobliteratorThey're the same thing everywhere except one country
15:05.25ImpyDroid2Which would be
15:05.27OluapPlayerdumba go work on stoof
15:06.09Technobliteratorneva
15:06.33TechnobliteratorI have to leave in a minute, and then there's coursework to finish, but after that, I plan on getting that Borealis War prologue section done
15:06.40Technobliteratoralso ImpyDroid2, Reckoning nag
15:06.52ImpyDroid2Homework grrrrre
15:06.58ImpyDroid2I am free tomorrow
15:07.13Technobliteratorok
15:07.17TechnobliteratorI shall nag you then
15:07.17Technobliterator:D
15:12.05Technobliteratoroh, OluapPlayer, I had some more war ideas
15:12.07Technobliteratorbut I have to go now
15:12.10Technobliteratorso I'll tell you when I'm back
15:12.43OluapPlayerRight
15:12.56HachimanI gotta good idea for the war
15:13.06HachimanLet's make it as convoluted and long as the original
15:13.48Technobliteratoroh nevermind
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16:01.28ImpyDroid2Hachiman: You literally split the IRC with your suggestion
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16:23.11Wormy_dayumn nature https://www.newscientist.com/article/2081957-cute-prairie-dogs-are-serial-killers-savaging-ground-squirrels/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=ILC&utm_campaign=webpush&cmpid=ILC%257CNSNS%257C2016-GLOBAL-webpush-PRAIRIEDOGS
16:24.05Wormy_http://gizmodo.com/biologists-have-learned-something-horrifying-about-prai-1766604141
16:24.25Wormy_"While they’re shaking, they’re biting the back of the neck to sever the vertebral column. Sometimes they grab by the head and literally debrain the baby. It’s violent, savage, and awful.”
16:24.34Wormy_brutal
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16:58.16HachimanMan, such a boring day today
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17:15.46CyrannianHi everyone
17:18.11MonetHi
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17:23.40CyrannianHello dino!
17:23.47dino82_hi
17:24.05dino82_how is allz dong
17:26.30CyrannianPretty good
17:28.08dino82_great to hear :D
17:28.52Wormy_Hachiman, Ghelaway, Monet, drom:  Minutephysics uses statistics to show in the universe, where are indeed likely to be small and puny compared to most of the aliens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRGca_Ya6OM
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17:30.22Wormy_On the plus side I think we are more populous
17:30.40Wormy_So will still likely rule a cruel empire over aliens
17:37.14Monet"the individuals of most intelligent species should be at least as massive as polar bears"
17:37.48MonetInteresting ballpark value
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17:46.52ImpyDroidHoly shit I can actually see stars on the sky today
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17:51.33ImpyDroidHi
17:52.13ImpyDroidFeels a bit crowded today
17:52.40ImpyDroidTechnobliterator: So turns out I have less stuff to do today than expected
17:52.54MonetWormy_: Then again these are all purely statistical
17:53.06ImpyDroidI'll be able to do your loronly stuff in an hour or less
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17:54.47Cyrannian~slap OluapPlayer
17:54.47infobotACTION slaps OluapPlayer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
17:55.05OluapPlayer~scream Cyrannian
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17:55.19CyrannianOh I like that one
17:55.44OluapPlayerThat's new
17:55.47Wormy_As we learn more about the universe, the sources they used to base their calculations will change.  And there is always the possibility some species on a less likely limb of that curve has already dominated the universe.
17:56.06MonetThat's not how you drill someone. You forgot the part where you'll tear their head off.
17:56.50Wormy_What it does challenge is methods of finding life on worlds like Earth, which may be rarer in a universe which is still full of life in more unusual forms.
17:58.26MonetMars and Europa may be teeming with life - jsut not the kind of life we'd imagine on Earth.
17:58.42OluapPlayerboring, laser gun-lacking life
17:58.42Wormy_Looking on the site they use Bayesian statistics, and that is generating controversey in some fields, as some scientists argue statistics are being used to explain things rather than being built into deeper explanations.  Whether that applies here, I don't know.
17:59.59MonetEuropa could be teeming with fish-aliens
18:00.13MonetThey could have sonic weapons.
18:00.40OluapPlayerGET OFF OUR MOON HUMANS *ear rape*
18:00.45TechnobliteratorImpyDroid, Reckoning then? :o
18:01.06ImpyDroidOnce I am done with making a lexicographic table yep
18:01.47ImpyDroidI am not sure if saying "lexicographic" tells you anything but I just like to post that for it to look like I am doing something serious and scientific
18:02.10MonetBoring as it sounds, who says the sonic has to be loud
18:02.28MonetIt could be loud, sure, but al sosuper-high-frequency
18:02.57ImpyDroidInvisible earrape
18:03.00ImpyDroidInaudible
18:03.05OluapPlayerYou're just browsing pictures of catgirls on your phone
18:03.33ImpyDroidNo, that comes later
18:04.14ImpyDroidSpeaking of which
18:04.26ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/MmCOLOo.png Driders
18:04.29ImpyDroidHachiman too
18:04.49MonetWhat intrigues me about sonic is that at high enough magnitudes, it doesm ore than make your ears bleed
18:06.11OluapPlayerI prefer the version with an actual spider
18:09.17HachimanMonster Musume shit and anons inserting it into everything
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18:16.07MonetIts peculiar because I thougth driders were supposed ot be horrors.
18:16.15MonetSome peopel ahve strange fantasies I guess.
18:19.06Wormy_Ugh,a cold is getting into my sinus's
18:35.08ImpyDroid2Monet: Horrifying as they may be, there is still a humanoid shape on top, and for many that might be enough
18:35.47GhelawayI'll have to tell Wormy this all when he gets back anyway, but... yes, that "Big Alien Theory" has a couple of flaws. Bayesian analysis is *more* accurate when you include prior knowledge, after all.
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18:39.39GhelawayFirst of all, the human population size, and indeed technological state, isn't at an equilibrium; it's a relatively small blip of industrial/agricultural revolution-induced growth over a history of hundreds of millennia. Not knowing if, for example, that's exceptionally high and planets tend to lower populations over time (or the other way around), is a pretty huge piece of information that's missing.
18:40.22DrodoEmpireHmm?
18:40.42GhelawayWormy posted a video about the "Big Alien Theory" earlier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRGca_Ya6OM
18:40.54DrodoEmpireAhh
18:41.29GhelawayAnd secondly, from all that we know, smaller planets are less likely to be habitable. You can't go too much smaller than Earth without the planet finding it easy to lose its atmosphere and water, but you can go a lot bigger before the surface gravity is too high for complex life.
18:41.46DrodoEmpireRight, population tends to vary greatly for sure
18:42.30GhelawayI only said one thing before you arrived: "I'll have to tell Wormy this all when he gets back anyway, but... yes, that "Big Alien Theory" has a couple of flaws. Bayesian analysis is *more* accurate when you include prior knowledge, after all."
18:42.44MonetImpyDroid2: Then those peopel kidn of miss the moral of those creatures
18:42.48DrodoEmpireRight
18:43.12Monet"But...it's part spider" "dun't care, has great tits"
18:43.18DrodoEmpireFrom a historical context (which may be too narrow) population tends to be affected primarily by geography and what plant/animal species and agricultural technology is available and by standard of living
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18:43.40DrodoEmpireIn the short term, its also affected by factors such as disease/medicine availability and war
18:43.44GhelawayAlthough it is a nice demonstration of what you can do with statistics even when you don't know very much, as long as you include the caveat of how easily it could be wrong too.
18:46.02MonetImpydroid: Wait aren't driders portrayed as laying with or seducing you then eating you?
18:48.14GhelawayThe long-term historical context is probably the best way to look at it; short-term factors are the kind of thing that would be made irrelevant by the large sample sizes, unless they're hugely widespread. If the majority of human history were made up of the majority of the Earth's population at that time being subjected to famine and disease and other such strife, one might then suppose that most alien planets would currently be i
18:48.45GhelawayWhereas if such things are rare and/or highly localised, you'd also expect them to be rare in the rest of the universe.
18:50.02DrodoEmpireRight
18:50.40DrodoEmpireThough
18:51.38MonetThe review suggests planets with populations of less than 20 million aliens.
18:52.04DrodoEmpireTo be perfectly fair much of recorded history is composed of warfare one way or another, and disease and famine feature regularly. *Major* pandemics (such as the Spanish Flu outbreak or Europe's plague during the early 14th century) are rare but have major effects far along the road
18:52.14DrodoEmpireEven especially large wars can effect population demographics
18:52.32MonetWhich is smaller than pre-industrial values. One of the key drivers of what makes this planet so densely populated is industrialisation
18:52.52DrodoEmpireTake France for example. Thanks to the Napoleonic and World Wars, there is a demographic imbalance between males and females that is larger than would be expected of other nearby countries
18:53.04DrodoEmpireMonet: right
18:53.24DrodoEmpireStill, ultimately, with all of history taken together these events do become dimished
18:53.57DrodoEmpireWell. Actually yeah twenty-million *does* sound far too small
18:54.02GhelawayMonet: That's essentially one of my points. The Bayesian analysis there effectively takes as its starting point that Earth was just randomly seeded with some particular population.
18:54.16DrodoEmpireRight, which obviously is untrue
18:55.12DrodoEmpireConsidering that, again, *so* many factors go into the building of a society and its size of population, and that the world population hasn't been 20 million since the early Bronze Age. :p
18:56.28GhelawayIt is a little more robust than relying on that to be literally the case, but not hugely. The point is, a Bayesian analysis with no added assumptions is as accurate as you can get *if* you have no other information to put into those assumptions.
18:56.44DrodoEmpireUnless most alien societies are still at the technological advancement of ancient Sumer, and/or are cursed with bad soil and hostile rivers, then I doubt that that's correct
18:56.53Ghelaway(by "that" I still meant Earth being randomly seeded)
18:57.29DrodoEmpireRight
18:57.58GhelawayYes, the idea of 50% of intelligent species have populations of less than 20 million... does seem implausible.
18:58.37DrodoEmpireThen again, "intellegence" doesn't always need to have "civilization"
18:59.02DrodoEmpireI mean, its *possible* that 50% of intellegent species never had the correct fauna available to them to discover agriculture
18:59.09DrodoEmpireI don't think its particularly likely though
18:59.25DrodoEmpireConsidering the sheer number of independent discoveries of agriculture here on Earth alone
19:01.10MonetActually come to think of it notice what the patterns were in the video
19:01.42MonetHow it strongly implied that the most successful were often a minority. Three to ten in a pool of hundreds.
19:02.25MonetThere might be a large numebr of pre-spacefaring alien societies out there.
19:03.38GhelawayPossibly. But that makes most sense if it were possible for there to be some kind of equilibrium in terms of some species become spacefaring from being non-spacefaring, others become non-spacefaring from being spacefaring, and on average the number remains constant.
19:04.04GhelawayI mean, a similar thing happens in statistical physics: there's a small minority of particles in any gas that have a lot of energy, for example.
19:04.39GhelawayBut I think it's more likely for species to become spacefaring than the other way around, so the number of technologically-advanced species should tend to increase over time.
19:04.41DrodoEmpireAnyway, I'm not great with all this statistics stuff. >.< Still, as far as I see it its *possible* that there's a lot of alien species on there that are large and live on small planets... But why would they have a small population?
19:04.41Ghelawaygoes back to being away
19:05.00DrodoEmpireThat doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't that just make more urgent the need for intensive agriculture?
19:05.26DrodoEmpireI mean, agriculture never was an intentional choice for any society, not that what I'm saying implies this
19:05.43MonetLarger beings tend to have smalelr reproduction rates
19:05.47DrodoEmpireRight
19:05.52MonetAnd take longer to mature
19:05.55DrodoEmpireAnd agriculture would still help there
19:06.28DrodoEmpireAgriculture brings (at least the illusion of) food security, meaning you can reproduce more without having to move everywhere to get to your food
19:06.56DrodoEmpireBeing able to remain in one place and bring in large yields of food would assist in raising these children which take a while to develop, if anything
19:07.15MonetIt would raise reproduction rates, yes.
19:07.36DrodoEmpireThis'd be an attractive thing to hunter-gatherers, to first plant some things, and then have that snowball over generations
19:07.45DrodoEmpire(Which is the way agriculture started on Earth)
19:08.06DrodoEmpireSo... Yeah. :p
19:09.44DrodoEmpireAssuming that there's plant life able to be harnessed and farmed (which seems to be a relatively safe assumption), and assuming this intelligent life is bright enough to make the connection and actually start planting things, Honestly what seems more likely is small worlds, large creatures and a relatively large population
19:10.21DrodoEmpireThis is me saying this without any qualification whatsoever, just basing this off of historical trends here on Earth with a bit of common snese
19:10.23DrodoEmpire*sense
19:10.52GhelawayThis is another example of additional information showing how the initial Bayesian estimate is unrealiable.
19:11.08MonetEven so, they might still not be as proactive as humans are.
19:11.51GhelawayThe statistics is practically saying "if planets are being randomly seeded with people, you're most likely to find yourself on one with more people than the average".
19:12.08DrodoEmpireMonet: I'd sooner not go down the slippery slope of assuming things about intellect. :p
19:12.20DrodoEmpireGhel: Yeah
19:12.28MonetDrodoEmpire: Not what I meant
19:12.35DrodoEmpireAs the old saying goes, there's three types of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics. :p
19:12.47DrodoEmpireMonet: Right. What did you mean?
19:13.14DrodoEmpireI'm just saying that's a bad assumption at best and, when applied to humans, fantastically racist at worst
19:13.22DrodoEmpire>.<
19:13.55MonetThe average human waighs between 60-80kg. The video proposes the average alien could be at least 650kg, triple the weight.
19:14.01Monet350*
19:15.00DrodoEmpireAh
19:15.05MonetTheir reproduction rate would still be sligthly lower likely because gestation inside the womb/egg and the time to raise such a being takes longer.
19:15.11DrodoEmpireRight
19:16.01DrodoEmpireHowever, humans also have a fairly long pregnancy period, and take a very long time until they reach maturity, especially for a species that's *supposed* to be migratory
19:16.25DrodoEmpireHaving the ability to stay in one place has helped population-wise
19:17.08DrodoEmpire(Granted, our distant ancestors never had the foresight to realize that more food would mean more kids, not better-fed ones.)
19:17.22DrodoEmpireStill, it is what it is
19:18.12MonetI think we can all agree that statistics alone won't give a definitive answer.
19:18.29MonetThe statistics may even be compeltely wrong.
19:18.32DrodoEmpireOh for sure
19:18.39DrodoEmpireI'd be willing to bet they are
19:19.19DrodoEmpireThe sample size is tiny, and at that it makes really shitty insights *into* that tiny sample size.
19:19.26DrodoEmpireSuch as not taking into account the effects of agriculture
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19:20.27Wormy_Interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_the_world
19:21.44dromMonet Imperios: Does AGC do still exist considering I've to add them to the map?
19:21.56ImperiosNo it does not
19:22.14Thunderlord1234Ok this commmet maybe be long ago
19:22.28Thunderlord1234but Monet is right what people say about autism Offend's me
19:22.29ImperiosTerritories under joint AGC jurisdiction are just PAE territories now
19:22.34Thunderlord1234because i am autistic
19:23.56ImperiosMost people here are
19:24.02ImperiosTo one point or another
19:24.04Wormy_You are not alone here
19:24.08DrodoEmpireYeah
19:24.23Wormy_Spore is very attractive to us
19:24.30Wormy_or must be
19:25.55ImperiosThe only relatively normal popular person here is Cyrannian
19:25.59ImperiosThough I have my doubts
19:26.06ImperiosCharles maybe
19:26.21Wormy_Who wants to be a normo
19:26.45OluapPlayerr u callin me anormal
19:27.29Wormy_Imperios:  NSWF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62-bUnLMcq4
19:29.39dromConsidering Indocs' history. They'll be excluded from the new map
19:31.50dromAnd... time for me to butt in NS' territory on the map <evil hand rubbing>
19:32.00dromOps, forgot the Dominios
19:32.15dromImperios Monet: What about Brood of War?
19:33.04Cyrannian"Though I have my doubts" http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/crying-waterfalls.gif
19:33.49OluapPlayerYou can't be normal since you're a cannibalistic alien
19:33.55OluapPlayerim the only normal here
19:33.56Imperiosdrom: Boom, nothing left
19:34.06Monetdrom: Fractured into numerous warbands
19:34.20ImperiosIt's under PAE jurisdiction now technically so you may show it as white
19:34.27dromAlright. AGC, BoW, Indoc will be vaporized. Like un-person.
19:34.30ImperiosBut smear it with red or soemthing
19:34.36dromTreat em as unpersons
19:35.00MonetBeing normal is boring anyway.
19:35.17dromMonet: Being different is boring anyway.
19:35.17OluapPlayerwow
19:35.23dromSpeaking this as a deaf person.
19:36.40dromThunderlord1234: You've got a good start, but the first impression I get is you could improve your writing.
19:36.43CyrannianBeing normal doesn't preclude being different, peeps
19:37.06OluapPlayeryou're still an awful creature of the night
19:37.16Cyrannianu racist
19:37.16Monetdrom: You experience the world differently from others though
19:37.31dromThat makes me different
19:37.40drom</s>
19:38.36MonetIndeed it does.
19:39.07MonetThen again depending on the situation, what is normal?
19:39.29dromYou being human.
19:39.32DrodoEmpireIt varies.
19:39.59dromThunderlord1234: How would you like have the Virginian Confederation placed on the map?
19:40.44OluapPlayerNot suffer from any physical or mental disorder
19:41.12Thunderlord1234small
19:41.12DrodoEmpireCultures have different standards as to what is normal, of course
19:41.15Imperiosdrom: You have these cybernetic ear things though
19:41.15Thunderlord1234and 1 territory
19:41.30DrodoEmpireThere is medical normalness
19:41.32dromThunderlord1234: But where?
19:41.34Thunderlord1234or maybe medium since they have 100 colonies
19:41.38Thunderlord1234idk side whatever
19:41.44DrodoEmpireAll and all its a pretty pointless discussion :p
19:41.51ImperiosDrodoEmpire: Which makes me sad because I cannot express my people's noble ways of exterminating all gay people here
19:42.07OluapPlayerdats not normal
19:42.20OluapPlayerfilthy ruskies
19:42.26dromOluapPlayer: Normal by Russian standards.
19:42.35DrodoEmpiredrom: Normal, but not right
19:42.37ImperiosNormal in russkieland hur
19:42.44OluapPlayer>russians      >standards
19:42.47Monetdrom: 100 colonies would be pretty small on the map
19:43.03dromMonet: Tell that to Thunderlord1234 as well.
19:43.23Thunderlord1234Yup it's kind of true
19:43.24ImperiosOluapPlayer: Says a monkey
19:43.32Thunderlord1234mostly alot of spore has autistic people
19:43.36Thunderlord1234more then normal people
19:43.36dromThunderlord1234: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ee/AndromedaSegmentumMap.png/revision/latest?cb=20120819124733
19:43.39OluapPlayeru just jelly cus we have better weather
19:43.57Thunderlord1234i really can't see that
19:43.58Thunderlord1234dude
19:44.29Ghelawayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:AndromedaSegmentumMap.png
19:44.37dromI really hate Wikia
19:44.48GhelawayThen pick one of the larger image sizes.
19:44.52OluapPlayergrorious pokeball
19:45.16Thunderlord1234well there sort of near the draconians
19:46.06DrodoEmpireAlso, ancient mesopotamian religion is pretty depressing
19:46.08DrodoEmpire>:
19:46.26DrodoEmpireNever were a particularly upbeat bunch of people I suppose
19:47.11dromThunderlord1234: So you are asking to have them placed near Draconid Imperium?
19:47.17Thunderlord1234yes
19:47.27dromHm.
19:47.34dromLeft or Right side of it?
19:47.36Thunderlord1234they find there people smart and wise
19:47.41Thunderlord1234Left
19:47.43MonetThat would put them in or around Segmentum Draco
19:49.41dromThunderlord1234: DI territories highlighted with blue-white outline. http://i.imgur.com/gr6ZR92.png
19:49.52Cyrannianhttp://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/24/darth-maul-returns-star-wars-rebels - Ooh
19:50.10dromSo you are asking now is to put the territory west/left of the largest territory of DI.
19:53.11dromThunderlord1234: Currently, Virginian Confederadtion's location is the blue-white highlighted ring. http://i.imgur.com/lhJWzwD.png
19:53.51dromKeep in mind it will be later shrunk.
19:54.02MonetThat website was so full of popups I couldn't read much
19:54.35OluapPlayerShould use Adblock
19:55.05MonetThe fact websites that do that exist is cringe enough for me.
19:55.23TechnobliteratorI disagree with adblock
19:55.33OluapPlayerI didn't ask nor do I care hur
19:55.44MonetI get a sense of "who cares what we say. GIB US CLICK MONEY"
19:56.30ImperiosCyrannian: Again?
19:56.36dromwho uses adblock anyway?
19:56.41ImperiosIs Darth Maul like the Black Knight of Star Wars?
19:57.04CyrannianHe didn't die last time we saw him, so no reason why he shouldn't return
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19:57.14MonetI know why he migth be returning
19:57.15HachimanHi
19:57.21MonetRatings!
19:57.24MonetHi
19:58.29Wormy_I used adblock for a bit, but then I was concerned by the fact it has access to my gmail
19:59.09Wormy_I don't mind responsible advertising and did disable adblock for many sites
19:59.10TechnobliteratorI dislike the idea of it. I like the internet being free tyvm
19:59.46Wormy_However, websites then shouldn't use intrusive adverts and malware, they should learn better
19:59.54Wormy_I don't care for them
20:00.06Wormy_Good criticism
20:00.38TechnobliteratorYes
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20:03.09OluapPlayerHi
20:03.18Wormy_I said malware, I meant adware
20:03.44Wormy_hi
20:03.53Hachimaninb4 waah people should not be allowed to monetize on the internet
20:05.03Wormy_There's always Usenet
20:05.45Wormy_Networks like that exist for people to use more free of ads, tracking, government censorship, etc.
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20:10.04XhoNo clue what happened there
20:11.38XhoAnyway hello everyone get rekt
20:11.54MonetHello
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20:12.10Thunderlord1234I Love Adblock
20:13.30Thunderlord1234can we rp please
20:14.40HachimanNothing to RP about
20:16.00MonetThunderlord1234: I'd say buidl your fiction a little more first.
20:16.13XhoI keep mistyping SporeWiki as SporeWiju
20:16.20Xhogettin all tribal in dis shit
20:16.59Monetvuild your fiction a little more first*
20:17.27Wormy_Well this is a typo fest#
20:18.33Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic/Government/Senate#Notable_Members - Take a look, expanding on it soon
20:18.44dromAlright. Territories that will be included in the new version --> http://i.imgur.com/hxxjM8l.jpg
20:20.16TekDroidDrom: Maybe make the borders thinner or at least blend better
20:20.27OluapPlayerCyrannian: Very nice layout
20:21.20dromTekDroid: The "borders" are just paths I set to be visible for visual confirmation
20:21.38dromSaid "paths" will make up the gemometry representing the territories
20:22.50Thunderlord1234Why anyway I Really like the republic of you'res cyrannian
20:22.56Thunderlord1234and why do i need to build up my fiction
20:23.24XhoOH GOD I'M HAVING AN ANEURYSM
20:23.31CyrannianThank you kindly
20:23.42MonetThunderlord1234: Because there's practically nothing any of us to work off of.
20:23.55ImperiosMHi
20:24.23Thunderlord1234know can you solve my build up question and how.
20:24.35ImperiosCyrannian: Why are all Mon Calamari people so angry hur
20:25.06TechnobliteratorI like the layout
20:25.21TekDroidThunderlord1234: Add... Anything really. Contentwise we really don't have much to work off of for it.
20:25.39MonetThunderlord1234: I sent you some suggestions on my message wall.
20:26.10CyrannianYou mean the model or in-fiction?
20:26.22Thunderlord1234i really don't know what to add
20:26.28Thunderlord1234besides they recently emerged
20:26.44ImperiosIn-fiction
20:26.50DrodoEmpire^
20:26.59ImperiosQuite a lot of Mon Nahdar characters are rather hostile and militant
20:27.03DrodoEmpireEven newer fictions would still have a huge amount of characters
20:27.08DrodoEmpire*history
20:27.13DrodoEmpireWhat the hell am I talking about
20:27.15DrodoEmpire>.<
20:27.35DrodoEmpireAnyway, even newly-emerged fictions have a huge amount of history, leading up to their origins
20:28.02TekDroidThunderlord1234: History, government are good places to start. According to the page they're almost 8 centuries old.
20:28.22ImperiosAs well as vehemently anti-Imperial
20:28.34ImperiosThough considering the Empire's treatment of their people it kind of makes sense
20:28.38CyrannianSenator Daerethal is simply strict and uncompromising when dealing with people she deems idiotic, deep down she's kind-hearted
20:28.57CyrannianShe was Laoi's tutor before he became an intern at the Rambo Senate
20:29.34TekDroidThunderlord1234: You might want to clarify their early history, I'm a little unclear about where and when they came from.
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20:31.43Thunderlord1234well they came from a Slave planet
20:32.03Thunderlord1234there ancestor's where 8 centuries
20:32.42TekDroidFrom where? I'm just unlear since the page mentions 2059 but in another place you mention the American civil war.
20:33.53MonetYou also mention they're humans
20:35.15Thunderlord1234Well i'm sort of new it's hard
20:35.16Thunderlord1234trust me
20:35.38TekDroidI'm not trying to overwhelm you, just trying to make sure it remains consistent with canon
20:37.06CyrannianImperios: Would you be able to add something for your new Senator? Or would you prefer that I did it?
20:37.38ImperiosI could yeah
20:37.41Thunderlord1234but is there anyone to add stuff people do on there pages
20:37.51Thunderlord1234it's hard and kind of long to do millitary and stuff
20:39.09MonetClarify what you mean by 'kind of long'
20:39.12TekDroidWe can help you but we can't write your fiction for you.
20:39.44Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic/Government/Senate#Notable_Members - Added a former Imperial slave who was elected Senator https://m.popkey.co/4d9369/k0RyK.gif
20:40.25dino82_oh!
20:40.27dino82_nice work cyrannian
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20:40.52OluapPlayerfugly
20:40.54OluapPlayerHi
20:41.31The_Randomnessbrb, installing updates
20:49.32Technobliteratorshows up
20:49.34Technobliteratorinstant brb
20:49.35Technobliteratorpft
20:49.36Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Sandbox#Fantasyverse_Deities Got bored so I did this
20:49.58OluapPlayerfantasyverse dongs
20:50.46Thunderlord1234Wanna rp
20:51.35XhoOluapPlayer: I could imagine Samayapalaka and Mortium being very friendly with each other
20:51.43XhoWhat with time and DED
20:52.09OluapPlayerMortium - elusive golden jello
20:52.17XhoSamayapalaka - [bone]
20:53.21XhoI think the Néva worship Aethereus/Nalashtannylor/Kinmo collectively as one entity
20:53.40XhoWhich is somewhat accurate now
20:53.48XhoBut over the course of 30,000 years
20:53.54MonetThunderlord1234: Asking for an RP migth be an issue was as far as you need characters to work with.
20:54.27XhoThat being said the Néva were aware of the fact that the Phoenxies were a race, so probably just Aethereus
20:54.48XhoThough being dum tribal people they probably couldn't tell the three apart after a certain amount of time
20:55.46OluapPlayerAethereus - i got no arms and they do            dum shits
20:56.03XhoThen again after the Phoenixes were destroyed Aethereus was taken by Caligaduro and Nalashtannylor was sort of deified in his place
20:56.18XhoAnd then Nalashtannylor's soul merged with Kinmorunddraver because Caligaduro beat the shit out of Nal
20:56.30XhoSo the Néva really had no clue what was going on
20:57.25XhoAlthough it worked its way back out and now Kinmo 2.0 is the collective souls of all three put together
20:57.33XhoLess of an asshole but still quite an asshole
20:58.38OluapPlayeraka every character you ever made except pelagrios and riad
20:58.49XhoEven Pelagrios is an asshole
20:59.01XhoMhor's not an asshole either
20:59.07XhoOr Esulus
20:59.12Thunderlord1234i got character's
20:59.22OluapPlayerMhor and Esulus almost never talk
20:59.30Thunderlord1234virga But i haven't made pages for them.
20:59.43XhoMhor - really it's just better to let the crazy god worshipper talk so he doesn't kill us all
20:59.48TekDroidThunderlord1234: To have any RP all sides can follow you need at least the basic idea of a Character (who are they? what are they like?) and at least a general overview of any factions (what's its government/leadership like?)
21:00.18XhoThat's my problem with so many characters I think
21:00.20Cyrannianhttp://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/03/24/islamic-photobomber-arrested-in-london/
21:00.34XhoI can't use all of them at once and the more fun-to-use characters take over
21:01.05XhoThat being said none of my characters are really assholes
21:01.21XhoThey might have an asshole-ish personality but none of them are genuninely a dick
21:01.23OluapPlayerLonginus is an asshole hur
21:01.34XhoOkay Longinus might fit that criteria
21:02.37XhoBut the rest of them are bitter over the fact that they're either 1) an outcast  2) a traumatic experience
21:02.41XhoOr 3) undeaed
21:02.43Xhoundead*
21:02.49OluapPlayerNorrigan - apply urself
21:02.58XhoTaihadrae - all three lol
21:03.53XhoAll of my characters except Riad and Mhor are one of those three
21:04.12XhoRiad and Mhor are the only two normal individuals of all my characters in the Fantasyverse
21:04.38Thunderlord1234i don't get it
21:04.39XhoTechnically Khaadun as well but Khaadun's a cocktail of god-driven madness and slow dehumanisation
21:04.53Thunderlord1234well they really don't have a government or leadership.
21:04.58Thunderlord1234there sort of freedom fighter's
21:04.59OluapPlayerPelagrios - i died when i got sober               only alive when drunk
21:05.11XhoPelagrios - WAKE ME UP OUTSIDE                 NAH RUM MATE
21:05.34MonetThunderlord1234: Not having any sort of leadership is a very good way for something to fall apart very quickly
21:05.45XhoPelagrios probably has one of the worst experiences of the characters
21:05.57MonetThere most be some sort of shot-callign body.
21:06.03Monetshot-calling body*
21:06.16XhoMost of his alcoholism is to deal with the fact he saw his family and most of the town he lived in get crucified by Shiarchon
21:06.22TekDroidThunderlord1234: They need some kind of leadership, even just a group of them. And that organization needs some kind of structure that they use to manage it.
21:06.28XhoAnd then got captured and tortured in Abyssus twice
21:06.39OluapPlayerMaximilianus - cause u keep comin back u dense shit
21:07.05XhoAnd had Caligaduro nibbling at his soul which has left him in a near unliving state
21:07.19XhoHe's probably the most fucked up character I have
21:07.45XhoThough rum heals all wounds as it were
21:08.29XhoThe only other characters that come close to Pelagrios' mind-fuckery is Ndrhthryr and Longinus
21:08.32OluapPlayerPelagrios - rum helps forget               who the hell are you
21:08.39TekDroidThunderlord1234: And if they're freedom fighters, you can expand on them from that: Who/what are they fighting? What do they want?
21:08.43XhoAnd Annamasakkan but that's under wraps at the moment
21:09.29XhoNdrhthryr because he spent 600 years as a vegetative corpse and Longinus since he saw 5000 years of void-based genocide and horrors beyond mortal imagination
21:09.43TekDroidDamnit.
21:10.37XhoThen again Septimus has had direct visual contact with Caligaduro
21:10.47OluapPlayerSeptimus - was slightly bad
21:11.01XhoHe was blinded for roughly a hundred years from what I remember typing
21:11.46XhoAlso saw his sister get eaten up by the void as Kalarah used her as a sacrifice
21:12.06XhoYeah Septimus has seen some shit as well
21:12.44XhoBut that's about it, the rest of my characters are relatively normal
21:12.57XhoOh and Taihadrae spending 600 years in limbo
21:13.41XhoAnd don't get me started on Vultusk and Kaaxhesh
21:14.50OluapPlayerMortium - get bak here
21:15.03XhoVultusk - which one of us lul
21:15.16OluapPlayerMortium - all of u         no escape from the bag
21:15.21XhoVultusk - oh                                            no
21:15.54XhoI could reveal Vultusk's origins but I dunno whether it's better keeping it hidden
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21:18.45XhoA character as weird as he is might be better off not having an origin
21:20.05OluapPlayerOne day, there was Vultusk             the end
21:20.52XhoCaligaduro - hav fun
21:20.57XhoWell no he's not void-made
21:26.52Cyrannianhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7f/SenatorDerella.png/revision/latest?cb=20160324212644 - ladi senator
21:27.09ImperiosWormy_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Humanity#Races Added muh blue monkeys
21:27.30OluapPlayerDude looks like he's clapping
21:27.40XhoRiad - where the fuck am i lol
21:28.10ImperiosCyrannian: Dat dress
21:29.10CyrannianI used the extra colour mod
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21:30.57Thunderlord1234hi
21:31.47XhoImperios: Do you mind if I make a Freelander champion for Nalashtannylor
21:31.53ImperiosSure thing
21:32.04OluapPlayerchampion of birb
21:32.35XhoAkal'te'xun was an idea of a name
21:32.48XhoIt's a really bastardized version of the nahuatl word for 'scorpion'
21:33.03OluapPlayerKinmo - do i look arachnid to u
21:33.17XhoChampion - HE IS ALL THINGS
21:33.55ImperiosXho: Hm
21:34.04ImperiosWhat about T'xun, with "Akal" being his title?
21:34.06Thunderlord1234Any Ideas for my fiction
21:34.07ImperiosAkal T'xun
21:34.33XhoThat works
21:34.46TekDroidThunderlord1234: Hang on, let me repost what was said when you disconnected
21:35.10TekDroid5:05 PM <Monet> Thunderlord1234: Not having any sort of leadership is a very good way for something to fall apart very quickly
21:35.23TekDroid5:05 PM <Monet> There most be some sort of shot-callign body.
21:35.38TekDroid5:06 PM <TekDroid> Thunderlord1234: They need some kind of leadership, even just a group of them. And that organization needs some kind of structure that they use to manage it.
21:35.49TekDroid5:08 PM <TekDroid> Thunderlord1234: And if they're freedom fighters, you can expand on them from that: Who/what are they fighting? What do they want?
21:35.53Thunderlord1234How can i do it.
21:37.13MonetThey are freedom fighters. Freedom from what?
21:37.29MonetWhat did they decide to champion or pursue now they're freed form their masters?
21:38.07Thunderlord1234i don't get it
21:38.34TekDroidWhat are the freedom fighters fighting for?
21:38.35Thunderlord1234well there not freedom fighter's i just sort of made up everything but there history to stop me from not understanding
21:38.55MonetI think we hit upon what you need: A vision.
21:40.12Thunderlord1234?
21:40.30MonetA solid plan
21:40.40MonetDon't jsut write down the first things that come into your head
21:42.17Thunderlord1234? OK
21:42.36Wormy_Imperios: They look awesome
21:42.51ImperiosActually we need a page for all human races
21:42.54Imperioshuman subspecies even
21:43.38Wormy_Yeah, a place to better organise the full list
21:43.40Thunderlord1234what's pretty awesome.
21:43.47Wormy_I've got a few
21:44.13Wormy_Imperios's Nebi Mu http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Humanity#Races
21:45.00Thunderlord1234Psycic Race's would like to have a word with the  Nebi-Mu
21:46.08Thunderlord1234Hachiman is a human *passes out*
21:46.27TekDroidIf you want to write a fiction you at least need an idea of what they are and what they are doing.
21:46.47HachimanHachi is an abhuman
21:48.06Thunderlord1234we
21:48.29Thunderlord1234well i have a fiction that's shared on spore but if i used them here i might have to ask zillafire
21:48.40Thunderlord1234and there history is long and not from my head
21:49.04MonetZillafire's right here
21:49.13Wormy_ZF101 beep
21:49.29ZF101Reporting for duty
21:49.37Wormy_Actually, why do you need to ask Zilla.  Are they not your creation?
21:50.01OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a5/Nercyvrus.png/revision/latest?cb=20160324214947 HQ spuder
21:51.32Thunderlord1234well he created them
21:51.35Thunderlord1234and gave them to me
21:51.46Thunderlord1234they share common trait's with his darklingas
21:51.49Thunderlord1234darklings
21:52.03Wormy_Fair enough, well at least Zilla is here to ask.
21:52.31Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Humanity/Races Now let's fill it with stuff
21:52.31CyrannianOh wow, looks awesome Oluap
21:52.45Thunderlord1234this is what they look like http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/953/559/500953559465_lrg.png
21:53.00MonetCommon wiki etiquette is that normally a donated fiction is yours to do as you wish, unless there are certain conditions they give you.
21:53.12dromMonet: Should I take it DI is red with dark-blue outline?
21:53.48ImperiosOluapPlayer: "spiders are not scary rly"
21:54.03HachimanNercy looks hot
21:54.12OluapPlayerFUCK OFFFFFFF
21:54.49Thunderlord1234so is it okay if i go on a page and look on source
21:54.55Thunderlord1234to see how people do there stuff
21:54.57MonetOluap: Nercyvrus - MY ASS IS ON FIRE!!
21:54.58Thunderlord1234and use it on mine
21:55.06OluapPlayerhur
21:55.16OluapPlayerShe's a fire spider, so her ass is always on fire
21:56.00Xhowat am i lookin at
21:56.17Thunderlord1234has the sporewiki gone sexual
21:56.25Thunderlord1234people joking attractive jokes to a spider
21:56.29OluapPlayerXacutus's pet spider
21:56.58ZF101Thunderlord it's our brand of humor.
21:57.07MonetThunderlord1234: A lot of us are between 15 and 18 and watch Anime, kind of natural
21:57.12ZF101You'll get used to it when you hang around with the likes of Impy enough.
21:57.21Thunderlord1234you mean dtaybone
21:57.35Thunderlord1234and we might as well allow sexual in the fiction if we have humor like that XD
21:57.39ZF101Yeah.
21:57.43ZF101Oh we do.
21:57.51ZF101Oh so much.
21:58.28MonetWe draw the line on actual intercourse. In which case the closest we get is implied sex.
21:58.50dromHave a bit of a teaser http://i.imgur.com/DKKzG4Y.png
21:59.02ZF101Yeah, like certian demigods finding certian people in their bedrooms.
21:59.20Thunderlord1234yes i remember on spore i saw ecoraptor's Shelly
21:59.24Thunderlord1234and it had Boobs
21:59.33XhoImperios: I thought of Akal T'xun looking like this guy somewhat  http://pre07.deviantart.net/ae92/th/pre/f/2015/348/7/0/kotal_kahn__primary__v2_by_yare_yare_dong-d9k6m89.png
21:59.35XhoBut more human
21:59.56ImperiosOoooh this guy was awesome to play as
22:00.00ImperiosHe had a fucking MACAHUITL
22:00.05drom"But more human" *a human character*
22:00.08Imperiosactually yes
22:00.13ImperiosGive him a FUCKING MACAHUITL
22:00.19Xhotwas the idea
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22:01.16dromI've a feeling that bkpark is somehow related to morgoth, or an alias to morgoth himself.
22:01.34Wormy_Alcohol and having a cold don't mix
22:01.47XhoWormy_: fuckin novice u r
22:01.48DrodoEmpiredrom: Yeah wondering who bkpark is
22:01.50CyrannianNot with that attitude Wormy
22:01.50Wormy_(not drunk on't flame/ragequit plz)
22:02.15Thunderlord1234The IRC in a nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weMpv14cW9U
22:02.22XhoBut yeah never drink when you're ill or tired
22:02.29XhoDid it once when I was tired
22:02.32XhoSlept 15 hours straight
22:02.41Wormy_Awww shit
22:03.02Wormy_Please tell Oluap I seriously am not drunik and just raising a concern.
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22:03.17Wormy_Had me scared there for a second
22:03.24dromMonet Imperios Hachiman: Coalition of Segmentum Crepusculium seems very ded to me.
22:03.25OluapPlayerlel
22:03.36ImperiosPut it as PAE territory
22:03.52OluapPlayerPutin as PAE
22:04.00OluapPlayerAll hail Highlord Vladmir
22:04.34dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Coalition  this?
22:04.49Thunderlord1234Cocanium
22:05.01XhoHighlord Suplex gets upgraded to Highlord Terminator
22:07.11dromAnd travels back in time to terminate a certain person within Divinarium
22:07.54Thunderlord1234You know i dislike most fandoms but that doesn't mean i'm not gonna attack them or do this childish stuff on the wiki
22:11.12dromXho: The Dominion is it still alive or nada?
22:11.23Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic/Government/Senate#Notable_Members - Added a couple more, c
22:11.26XhoIt's still around
22:11.34dromGibe link
22:12.38dromXho: This? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AKicath_Empire
22:12.58OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADominion_of_the_Xhodocto nigga u dum
22:13.23dromFuk off dum monkie
22:14.02Imperiosdrom: Yeah
22:14.30dromTo what question?
22:17.05TechnobliteratorImperios, Reckoning?
22:17.12ImperiosNah, tomorrow
22:17.15ImperiosToo later now
22:17.18Technobliteratorlame
22:17.19Technobliteratorok
22:17.30OluapPlayerJo prologue pls
22:18.04dromImperios Monet Xho Hachiman: Teaser no.2 http://i.imgur.com/4ooLZXK.png
22:18.48Technobliteratorneva
22:19.02TechnobliteratorI really need to do coursework, but alas
22:19.13TechnobliteratorI'll see if I can't do that prologue section I promised
22:20.35Monetdrom: Have to admit, it does look cleaner
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22:21.31XhoMan I can't do shit in Spore now
22:22.13ImperiosWormy_ Xho Hachiman Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Humanity/Races I command you to fill this
22:22.32XhoImperios: I have nothing to add to that
22:22.44Imperiosfuk
22:23.17dromMonet: Is the Lesser Zarni empire the one above the Defensive Systems Bloc?
22:23.32MonetYes
22:23.43dromGood
22:23.47Wormy_Imperios:  I have only fanfic races to add to it :P
22:23.58Wormy_Klingons etc
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22:24.13dromMonet: I can't seem to find their page.
22:24.22dromAll I get is this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ALiberated_Zarni_Sodality
22:24.47MonetThey are related
22:25.23dromTheir territory will be a bright orange blob with bright cyan borders then
22:25.24CyrannianI'll add my genetically inferior slave monkeys if you add genetically superior shapeshifting senator
22:28.09OluapPlayerIs that just for subspecies?
22:28.56drommonet: solonese union?
22:29.04ImperiosOluapPlayer: Yeah I presume so
22:30.04Monetdrom: I need to use those guys but they're PAE
22:31.03OluapPlayerBorealis humans are not a subspecies so
22:31.07OluapPlayerI'm not adding them then
22:31.32CyrannianAdded
22:31.38dromMonet: I can't seem to find them. I might have ultimately remove them if I'm not given any colors to give their territory
22:31.57Xho"Say what you want, but we are the foundation upon which you all stand"                 Kicath - do u want to get shot
22:32.15XhoActually half the universe could be substituted for the Kicath there
22:32.51OluapPlayerSantorakh - yall silly as shit              everyone knows cheese is the foundation
22:33.00XhoCan't argue with that
22:33.12Cyrannianbrb
22:33.42XhoBut yeah the Kicath only really tolerate humans because it's intergalactic law
22:34.17dromFree People's Coalition does not seem to have their own page, either.
22:36.42OluapPlayer>Cultural obsession with beauty
22:37.00OluapPlayerVerviok - this galaxy ain't big enough for two fabulous people
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22:43.58OluapPlayerFor god's sake
22:47.01ImperiosXho: They mean other humans
22:47.04Imperios"
22:47.14XhoKicath - FUCKING HUMANS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
22:49.15OluapPlayerGigaquadrant - eat ur bread
22:49.35XhoKicath - BREAD IS HUMAN FOOD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
22:51.16dromMonet Imperios: Teaser v.3 - Teasing Boogaloo http://i.imgur.com/4Xd1Ssb.png
22:51.50dromNow I figure out if I should define the PAE territory or not
22:55.31dromImperios: Found this map http://orig05.deviantart.net/9bfb/f/2007/035/7/9/wip__homeworld_map__turanics_by_norsehound.jpg
23:00.10Thunderlord1234Does anyone's fiction females have breast
23:00.11Thunderlord1234:D
23:01.28dromfemales
23:01.55XhoYou really need to look at fiction more
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23:02.49ZF101Lots of em TL.
23:02.53ZF101Lots of em.
23:03.02dino82_oh asgord heads!
23:03.06dino82_That has been a while ago haha
23:03.15DrodoEmpireHmm?
23:04.08OluapPlayerImp seems to have uploaded a picture of an Asgord head
23:04.11OluapPlayerfor some ungodly reason
23:04.39DrodoEmpireAh lol
23:04.51XhoDAMN IMPERIOS, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE ASGORD HEAD
23:04.54ZF101Imp, Y U do dis?
23:05.02ImperiosOh
23:05.10ImperiosThere is actually a reason for it
23:05.19ImperiosI am about to finish it
23:05.19OluapPlayerreviving the nightmare
23:05.21OluapPlayerdats the reason
23:05.37XhoSantorakh - universe reboot nao
23:05.48ZF101Point on the dool where the Asgord petted you.
23:06.00XhoWould make a lot of sense if Santorakh created the Asgord really
23:06.12OluapPlayerSantorakh - man angazhar is gonna hate this
23:06.12XhoCreated a nightmarish species that are hated for their immense stupidity
23:06.28XhoAngazhar - WELL YOU FUCKING SUCCEEDED
23:06.58XhoI'm currently editing the Dominion page
23:07.01XhoMan this needs a rehaul
23:07.26OluapPlayerI remember the Asgord history saying they actually used to be aggressive warmongers
23:07.41XhoAngazhar - was actually my creation top kek
23:07.45OluapPlayerbut then they somehow changed into the creepy molesters we all know
23:07.58HachimanThey were once warmongering divided states but were unified through indoctrination
23:08.08XhoCUTE AKBAR
23:08.08OluapPlayercours u remember
23:09.09HachimanThey essentially augmented and lobotomised themselves to breed out their aggressive tendencies
23:09.11XhoHumans 2016
23:09.23OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Borealis_Galaxy#Native this is the first time I fill this section since the page was created
23:09.27OluapPlayerThat was back in 2011
23:10.05dromRIP asgord
23:10.23Xho"Dominion of the Xhodocto - Unknown, large"                      Kondrakar - SSSSSSSSSSSIX HUNDRED AND SSSSSSSIXTY SSSSSSSSIX THOUSSSSSSSSSSAND COLONIESSSSSSSSSSSSS
23:10.41OluapPlayerUniverse - no snek allowed
23:10.53Xho666,666,666 colonies because the ssssssss is not enough
23:10.58MonetHachiman: This is why lobotomy is bad
23:11.11AnonyLurkXho.
23:11.12AnonyLurkNonono.
23:11.30HachimanArguable since the Asgord are no longer a warmongering state
23:11.31AnonyLurk666^666^666 colonies.
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23:11.47HachimanAlthough they do essentially live in a fabricated utopia of their own design
23:11.56drom~666^666^666
23:11.56infobot666
23:12.08ZF101And their own stupidty has nearly gotten them wiped out.
23:12.13drom~((666)^666)^666
23:12.13infobot666
23:12.16dromGoddamnit
23:12.23Xho10^(10^1880.884620455555)
23:12.25HachimanWould not surprise me if the Asgord equivalent of an amygdala has atrophied and shrunk
23:12.26dromthis is now how you do pow
23:12.27AnonyLurk666^(666^666).
23:12.48Xho7.666911594952460×10^1880 decimal digits
23:12.57Hachimanshrank rather
23:13.04OluapPlayerHachiman: Imagine an Asgord but with a Patches head
23:13.05XhoI think that's a big number
23:13.14HachimanJesus
23:13.20OluapPlayerAMEEG-DAH-LA
23:13.26HachimanThe most trustworthy Asgord
23:13.40OluapPlayerWill pet anyone except clerics
23:13.46Hachimanhur
23:13.47dromXho: My mathematical tool returns "infinite number"
23:13.50AnonyLurkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7PQ9IO-7fU
23:13.58HachimanMay also turn into a spider on occasion
23:14.05ImperiosXho OluapPlayer Monet Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Media#Cyrandian_Organisations And here's the reason I used it
23:14.10drom~10^10^10
23:14.10infobot10
23:14.17OluapPlayerThe joke was "Patches Spider -> Patches Asgord"
23:14.20OluapPlayerdumbotron
23:14.26drom10^10
23:14.29HachimanOh fuck
23:14.33HachimanWent full circle hur
23:14.33drom~10^10
23:14.43OluapPlayerwat
23:14.47dromSeeech, stupid bot
23:14.48The_Randomnessdrom: On a scale of 1-10, how dumb was it for me to try switching around where my SSD and such were?
23:14.56OluapPlayerOh
23:14.59OluapPlayerThat's a new section
23:15.15dromThe_Randomness: Uh? Elaborate?
23:15.15Imperios?
23:15.19Xho10,000,000,000 dammit
23:15.30OluapPlayerThe name sounded like something R17 would write
23:15.53The_Randomnessdrom: Like, let's say my CD drive was plugged into SATA port 3 and my SSD was plugged into SATA port 1, and I switched them around
23:16.03MonetImperios: Shouldn't that be under Xonexi organisations?
23:16.06ImperiosOluapPlayer: He did have a character called the Observer
23:16.12The_RandomnessMaybe it might've been the cable, but my PC started acting funny afterwards
23:16.18ImperiosMonet: Isn't Kraw like in Cyrannian sphere of influence
23:16.32Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dominion_of_the_Xhodocto#Culture Added Culture and Military
23:16.32OluapPlayerThat's how I confused it all
23:16.40OluapPlayerDominion culture
23:16.46OluapPlayerPraise the cheese or be crucified
23:16.48MonetImperios: The sections are astrographically-based.
23:16.51XhoSantorakh - correct
23:17.01dromThe_Randomness: I cannot really recall. But you might want to change your BIOS settings if your computer still acts funny at next start-up.
23:17.17The_Randomnessdrom: I changed it back, not sure why it was acting the way it was
23:17.18XhoThe Samut'angar are basically aggressive fucks
23:17.22ImperiosAlright guys
23:17.25ImperiosSo...
23:17.26The_RandomnessI'll mess around with it again this weekend
23:17.27dromTo look for a bootable partition at SATA port 3 instead of 1.
23:17.29ImperiosWhat do you think?
23:17.32XhoThey eat mortals and fight their demonic allies becaues ANGAZHAR AKBAR
23:17.53OluapPlayerCorruptus - bitch wtf
23:18.08XhoAngazhar - me akbar obviously
23:18.12HachimanMonet: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12472421_958724044204767_2304958035964089235_n.png?oh=41bdb840b44ea7aefad7a48705afcde8&oe=5788FFFD lol
23:18.21XhoAlthough within the Dominion, Krath has the most influence
23:18.33HachimanNo surprise Dawn of Justice was going to be awful; it looked awful from the start
23:18.36dromThe_Randomness: Like I said before, it is probably because your BIOS was accustomized to look for a bootable partition in anything that is connected to SATA 1.
23:18.52HachimanPeople fell for it too
23:18.56ImperiosHachiman: DO NOT SPOIL PLZ
23:18.58HachimanFucking idiots
23:19.05dromI don't know technology well. But it always starts at SATA 1, unless it can be changed in BIOS
23:19.21ImperiosSeriously even if it is bad I am going to check it
23:19.23OluapPlayerkrath - yall stop eating each other for once holy shit
23:19.28XhoIf Angazhar had the influence over the Dominion it would be War of Ages 3.0
23:19.31HachimanWhy? It's a bad movie
23:19.36HachimanYou'll be wasting your time
23:20.10ImperiosYou saying a movie is bad literally means nothing
23:20.17TechnobliteratorHe says, despite not seeing it :P
23:20.21dromWormy_ Xho Monet: http://i.imgur.com/xioLfYo.jpg
23:20.25Imperiosc
23:20.29TechnobliteratorI'm going to see it, even though I'm not expecting much from it
23:20.32HachimanI say, backed by critics and reviews
23:20.42MonetThis is why it's good to read actual reviews rather than judging by Rotton TOmatoes or metacritic
23:20.44XhoIt is a correlation that Angazhar's servants are the War-of-Ages-starting psychos
23:20.44ImperiosIt was a risky endeavour to begin with
23:21.10OluapPlayerAngazhar - aka i'm the FUN guy here
23:21.14Xhodrom: FLOOF
23:21.16HachimanAccording to critics, there are minor highlights and Batman and Wonder Woman are well-cast, but everything is shit
23:21.22ImperiosHachiman: Thing is you are among those people easily affected by hype
23:21.24XhoKrath - go fuk urself u dum manchild
23:21.26HachimanOh and Luthor is tolerably annoying
23:21.27ImperiosAh right
23:21.40OluapPlayerAngazhar - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
23:22.10HachimanOverall I would not see it and you would be better off using your movie elsewhere
23:22.18XhoDraguros is the hermetic old man telling the other three to keep the noise down
23:22.23HachimanRather than giving it to a rushed cash-grab flick
23:22.32OluapPlayerDraguros - everyone shut up i'm trying to be morally ambiguous
23:22.33HachimanThat tries to run with the Avengers formula and fails
23:22.45dromHachiman Imperios Monet Xho Wormy_: http://imgur.com/gallery/VhlAW
23:22.51XhoSantorakh - jarl ballin tells u to stfu
23:23.05ImperiosHachiman: Wait when you say "shit"
23:23.10ImperiosDo you mean Inside Out shit
23:23.13ImperiosOr Frozen shit
23:23.16ImperiosOr shit shit
23:23.17OluapPlayerDraguros - get fus ro dah'd u walking cheddar
23:23.28HachimanAs in shit shit
23:23.39Cyrannianhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b9/Crisis_in_the_Senate.png/revision/latest?cb=20160324232323 - Apollo - ffs not again
23:23.41Imperiosright
23:23.42HachimanThe movie is apparently awful
23:23.44ImperiosSo like fan4stic
23:23.46Imperiosrite
23:23.47HachimanYeah
23:24.15ImperiosThat means I have nothing to do this weekend
23:24.16ImperiosFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
23:24.20OluapPlayerApollo - the downsides of being so handsome                 always end up with chicks pointing guns at me
23:24.20HachimanNot shit in an overrated Frozen sense; not shit in a mediocre Inside Out sense; shit as in genuine shit
23:24.37TechnobliteratorYou can't judge a film you've never seen
23:24.40ImperiosNow I am angry at you hur
23:24.43XhoKalcedia - define gun
23:24.46HachimanThe Room is an awful movie
23:24.48TechnobliteratorImperios, just watch it if you want
23:24.49HachimanThere, just did
23:25.00TechnobliteratorMost of the people came out of the film saying that they enjoyed it but it was far from perfect
23:25.01XhoWorst film I've ever seen is The Wicker Man
23:25.04XhoTHE BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
23:25.08ImperiosAt least I could have seen the movie, considered it awful and then discussed it with friends
23:25.08HachimanNOT THE BEEEES
23:25.10OluapPlayerNOT THE BEEEEEEEES
23:25.13ZF101The Room is a master piece.
23:25.14OluapPlayerTHEY'RE IN MY EYES
23:25.18XhoMY EYES
23:25.18ImperiosOr mybe I couldh ave liked it
23:25.24OluapPlayerIT'S HIP TO FUCK BEES
23:25.24ImperiosRiiight
23:25.26ImperiosSo
23:25.31Xhopatrick beeman
23:25.34ImperiosBasically like the original Man of Steel?
23:25.38OluapPlayerCheck these bzzts
23:25.42MonetI agree with Techno.
23:25.43XhoMan of Steel was mediocre
23:25.43Hachimanolol
23:25.57HachimanMan of Steel was mediocre but it got more shit than it deserved
23:26.09MonetGet a full opinion, whether it means reading multiple analyses or seeing it yourself.
23:26.21OluapPlayerJust do whatever you want
23:26.27OluapPlayerNo one here can tell you what to do
23:26.33HachimanI find it hilarious that people are still wearing their nostalgia goggles and think the old campy Superman movies are good
23:26.43HachimanAnd compare them to Man of Steel
23:26.44ImperiosProblem is Hachiman now kind of ruined the fun for me hur
23:26.44XhoI really need to use the Dominion again but the Gigaquadrant's too solid to break
23:27.01ImperiosAt least it could be a big disappointment but it could be fun
23:27.04OluapPlayerDominion - guys pls die           we're asking nicely
23:27.16MonetAs much as peopel bash Avatar, I enjoyed it myself.
23:27.24dromhttp://i.imgur.com/veaVxUD.png
23:27.24HachimanAs in Cameron's Avatar right
23:27.25OluapPlayerImperios: If you have low expectations, it just means you'll be even more impressed by the good parts
23:27.29OluapPlayerBe optimistic dangit
23:27.30Monethachiman: Yes
23:27.35XhoAvatar's good for the spectacle
23:27.48XhoJames Cameron's never really been into plots
23:27.49HachimanAlright good because if it was Shyamalan's Avatar I would need to have words
23:27.53OluapPlayerTastes vary, you may enjoy it even if Hachi is sperging about it
23:27.54CyrannianI often find that action films that critics have bashed are often quite fun to watch, provided you turn off your brain
23:28.27HachimanWhy should we have to turn off our brains to enjoy a movie?
23:28.35MonetI liked the environments, the creatures, the mech suits, and I agree that while he's only there for money, Quaritch is a badass.
23:28.43Cyranniancus I fukin said so, that's why
23:28.48OluapPlayerKind of ironic for me to tell people to be optimistic when I'm like the most pessimistic person here
23:28.51Monethachiman: because that's what action flicks are for
23:28.56HachimanThere's a story being out there and then there's a story which makes no sense within the context of the rest of the narrative set up and established within the film
23:29.11Wormy_drom:  I think it accomplished in acting like a teenage girl
23:29.27MonetHachiman: Sometimes people jsut want to switch off their brains for a little while.
23:29.38XhoOluapPlayer: You're not the one with the nihilism incarnate fiction                get hapi nao
23:29.48OluapPlayerI'm pessimistic, not psychotic hur
23:30.01Hachiman>implying nihilism is psychotic
23:30.12XhoIt is me he's talking about
23:30.26OluapPlayerYes
23:30.35OluapPlayerNext you'll say Xho's a cute teddy ebar
23:30.38OluapPlayerbear even
23:30.51Monethachiman: best example i nyour case might be Starship Troopers.
23:31.12ImperiosHachiman butthurt activated
23:31.13MonetDumb, corny action with moron soldiers. But it was still entertaining wasn't it?
23:31.21ZF101Or Commando with Arnie.
23:31.31HachimanI don't like Starship Troopers all that much
23:31.33XhoNihilism's interesting but I don't subscribe to that philosophy
23:31.34HachimanI find it overrated
23:31.55Cyrannianhm, I've never seen Starship Troopers
23:32.03Wormy_You should!
23:32.06HachimanI cannot enjoy it since knowing that it is far from loyal to its source material
23:32.07MonetWell there goes my analogy.
23:32.33XhoI thought the concept of nihilism interplayed with the idea of a supreme deity was probably the most terrifying thing to imagine existentially speaking
23:32.41ImperiosLoyalty to the source means very little
23:32.42Xhoand boom current xhodocto
23:32.45dromImperios Monet: Apparently when Obama did this: http://i.imgur.com/KXmc1d2.gif a subreddit dedicated to "thanks obama" gifs immediately shut down because "no one can top it".
23:33.05ImperiosDifferent genres imply different standards
23:33.09MonetHachiman: Funnily enough I wrote an essay last year on it and one of the things I looked at regarding epoples' perception of it is what expectations the word "adaptation" brings.
23:33.27TekDroidMonet: Technically I think that movie is supposed to be a satire of the genre.
23:33.42XhoOh that reminds me
23:33.48ImperiosAgain gys
23:33.51Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Media#Cyrandian_Organisations Take a look plz
23:33.53XhoHachiman: "Want to see a slut drop? Push a Kardashian down the stairs."
23:33.54ImperiosWhat do you thiiink
23:34.01HachimanPeople usually get pissed if a film adaptation of a book is not loyal to its source - which is often the case because directors and producers like to mainstream-ify films for more viewers thus more dollar
23:34.05OluapPlayerAsgord head/10
23:34.22OluapPlayerIt's well written
23:34.27OluapPlayerI don't know what to say beyond that
23:34.34Wormy_drom:  That chatbot learned from what people posted to it.  It was a distillation of all thye cancerous shit on the internet.
23:34.47XhoImperios: Which one am I looking at
23:34.54ImperiosXho: Asgord head
23:34.59Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
23:34.59ImperiosLAst one
23:35.23OluapPlayerTaken from an anonymous source, aka Gorf
23:35.38MonetHachiman: That's what I understood. Some people did shit on it because it wasn't the movie they epxected.
23:35.46ImperiosHachiman: Not just more dollar though
23:36.03ImperiosI do not want to play devil's advocate but different genres imply different rules as I just said
23:36.09CyrannianGianne's Ghost - damn straight
23:36.15XhoKicath - FUCKING KRAW GALAXY REEEEEEEEEEEEE
23:36.23MonetBut adapting a book into a movie, while incredibly common, is also a pain in the ass for directors and scriptwriters.
23:36.25ImperiosYou cannot just take something and throw it into something else
23:36.32MonetBecause audiences expect a word-for-word transliteration.
23:36.35Imperios...Bah it is not like you care, you just like to rant
23:36.53HachimanWell no, I do care
23:37.36ImperiosMy point is staying TOO loyal to the source is bad too
23:37.48Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10600382_1168072226549986_9083433177373260243_n.jpg?oh=4797bb0f5ceeb1053ab68845ae5e6311&oe=5794838C
23:38.04dromWormy_: True art of trolling
23:38.08DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI-KCEqWNSE - more ayy lmaos in stellaris
23:38.25ImperiosAnd as for Starship Troopers, Verhoeven's vision, while different ot that of Heinlein, is by NO MEANS uninspired
23:38.27ImperiosLike seriously
23:38.39MonetI remember Ebert's review mentioned that yes the film was dumb and immature, but so was the book as it was aimed at young patriotic boys.
23:38.44ImperiosDid you just call Verhoeven a brainless mainstream reviewer
23:39.02ImperiosMonet: The book was "MUHRICA"
23:39.10ImperiosThe movie was... the opposite of "MUHRICA"
23:39.21Wormy_drom:  Perhaps using AI to troll will become a thing.
23:39.41Wormy_The Future
23:39.45MonetHell Ebert included a dedication that was in the book that henlein basically thanked his drill sergeant and hoped he would train boysi nto men for years to come.
23:42.38dromWormy_: http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/DfdOHER8BKI/maxresdefault.jpg
23:42.53MonetI also went into Trooers expecting the novelisation to be some high-literature masterpiece.
23:43.07MonetBecause of who wrote it.
23:44.41Wormy_lol
23:49.00Wormy_drom, Monet:  So there's a theory that the student detained in North Korea is faking it and did a deal with NK in order to experience it (and in return give NK media propaganda) http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/australian-national-university-professor-labels-otto-warmbier-a-liar-and-a-convenient-actor/news-story/357f95b68ef5d872b0650c044a6e09fb
23:49.38Wormy_Psychologists analysing his body language claim it looks like crocodile tears
23:49.54Wormy_He is also smarter than he sounds, having top grades
23:50.06Wormy_And had been to North Korea twice before, so was not naive.
23:50.14Wormy_Certainly not unfounded
23:50.36*** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.87)
23:51.09ImpyDroidCyrannian: http://img15.deviantart.net/0166/i/2016/044/7/d/dark_rey_by_hisonae-d9rjosq.png huh
23:51.14MonetImpydroid: About The Observer. Other than where I think it should come under, I like it. I like how it is broad and is well-designed to appeal.
23:51.29CyrannianI approve
23:51.44Thunderlord1234Could the cyrannian Republic beat the whole fictionverse
23:51.53CyrannianYes, because Gorf lives there
23:52.09CyrannianImpyDroid: I hope Rey gets a double-bladed sabre
23:52.19OluapPlayerGorf - xhodocto are my toilet paper
23:53.48MonetAdding to that page makes me think, I *really* need to add the firm that operates Andromeda News 20
23:54.18DrodoEmpireI should probably add a Drodo media company
23:54.23Thunderlord1234i think the cyrannian republic stands a chance
23:55.04Thunderlord1234News:This is galatic news reporting the Cyrannian Republic has declared a all out war Official's Warn Civllians to evacuate if there empire is too weak to stand)
23:57.34TekDroidThe NCR isn't even the strongest power in its galaxy right now I thinl.
23:57.42TekDroid*think
23:57.43Wormy_Gorf is honetly the most terrifying entity in the SporeWikiverse
23:58.07Thunderlord1234the cyrannian is strongest
23:58.19Thunderlord1234even there owner would agree
23:58.21Thunderlord1234am i right
23:58.41DrodoEmpireIn all seriousness no one power can resist the combined force of the entire universe
23:58.43DrodoEmpire:p
23:58.54TekDroidUnless you're reading something else the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus is currently stronger to my knowledge.
23:59.18OluapPlayerGorf - i AM the universe
23:59.24TekDroidAnd even then it's one galaxy against the combined forces of 7 others
23:59.26CyrannianYes, being too overpowered is frowned upon
23:59.46Thunderlord1234but cyrannian

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