IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160323

00:00.45MonetYeah.
00:01.22MonetBatman straddles the line. Or possibly the example of edgelord antihero peopel think of
00:01.24HachimanJames Bond cannot settle with a single woman and quite clearly written to have a misogynistic view on women; Dirty Harry boasts an intimidating presence and resorts to brutality when the law prohibits or restrains it
00:02.19MonetBond isn't just seductive and mysogynistic. he's also professional to thep oint of obsession.
00:02.25HachimanAye
00:02.57MonetOne of my favourite lines in Skyfall is during the word association phase of his psyche evaluation.
00:02.59HachimanYet despite being a merciless professional assassin and a misogynistic prick, I do not recall Bond being considered to be edgy
00:03.10MonetGun; tool, murder; employment
00:04.05HachimanPeople also forget that Batman is not just Batman; Bruce Wayne is beneath the mask and he lives a very different, non-edgy loner life
00:04.44HachimanHe is a sociable and charismatic guy who knows how to have fun and mingle with people
00:04.50MonetBatman and Bruce Wayne are practically two different people, which helps Wayne hide his identity.
00:05.22HachimanAlso Batman is a total fucking edgelord who is actually incompetent at keeping Gotham safe; I do not like Batman hur
00:05.31MonetThat's my point
00:06.01Thunderlord1234ello
00:06.07HachimanHe indirectly kills a lot of people that could have been saved by killing the armies of psychopaths and merciless criminals that he is consistently pitted against
00:06.37MonetHe's considered an iconic exampel of anti-hero but between "my parents are dead!" and his inability to accept *any* help stick him right in Edgelord territory.
00:07.10Thunderlord1234is this IRC just a huge conversation between 3 amazing fiction writers Monet Imperios and Hachiman?
00:07.26DrodoEmpireConversation comes and goes, yes.
00:07.40HachimanNah, the topics change depending on time of day, moods, topics that are relevant
00:07.48HachimanWhatever is on people's minds and such
00:08.06dino82_lol
00:08.24MonetIt's often been pointed out that the only thing that stops Batman from falling to the same level of the psychopaths he fights is he doesn't kill directly.
00:08.44HachimanShame that the Punisher does what Batman does and does it BETTER
00:09.04MonetFrank Castle gives zero fucks yeah.
00:09.44dino82_chapter 2 is done: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Quadrantia_Adventures#Chapter_02
00:10.40HachimanI have a feeling that the reason why Batman does not kill his villains is because otherwise there would be no necessity for a Batman
00:11.08MonetWell there is also that idea that he'd be nothing without the Joker.
00:11.24HachimanAnd without the Joker, Gotham would be a safer place
00:12.35HachimanI honestly do not understand why heroes consider killing irredeemable and merciless villains such a controversial thing
00:13.37MonetI think that's what makes Punisher extremely popular
00:14.06HachimanFrom what I understand, it comes from the philosophy of being better than your opposition on a moral standpoint; the superheroes willingly put their ego and sense of mind over the safety of the people they are trying to protect
00:14.34MonetHe breaks convention. Hell, aside from that time early Batman would have one, I think he was one of the first superheroes depicted using guns.
00:15.58MonetAnd yeah, it's mostly from the moral philosophy that killing is bad.
00:17.02MonetThe Hays' Code would have had a panic attack if someone like Superman was shown killing soemone.
00:17.10MonetBack when it was relevant ofc.
00:17.54MonetActually maybe the Hays Code was an influence
00:17.56Thunderlord1234soo, what would happen if monet fiction went in a all out war with imperios fiction
00:18.10HachimanImperios' fiction would get decked except maybe the Eola'Nar
00:18.36DrodoEmpireThat being said, launching all-out wars rarely end well, even if you win decisively. :p
00:18.57DrodoEmpireBecause then everybody hates you
00:19.11DrodoEmpireThat aside yeah the DI's really really powerful
00:20.26Thunderlord1234Wow i just saw Monet's A Fiction Monet made About rat Creatures called The Radeon and i thought they would look something like this https://www.google.com/search?q=skaven&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwihxpPDxNXLAhXCKiYKHeg2B1UQ_AUIBygB&biw=1414&bih=683&dpr=1.25
00:20.57HachimanMight wanna reconsider rephrasing that sentence
00:21.11MonetRadeons are Imperios' species.
00:21.18HachimanI am trying to think of a superhero who cannot be considered 'edgy', like Batman or the Punisher, who actively kills people to prevent long-term problems with villains
00:21.41HachimanI was gonna say Iron Man but I do not know much about him
00:22.20MonetI don't think Iron man really kills. But he can't really be an anti-hero because he's such a public figure.
00:22.37Vincent20100Hulk probably end up killing his foes
00:22.42HachimanTrue
00:22.51HachimanI love Hulk btw :p
00:22.58MonetThat and if there's any 'edge' in Tony Stark, I'd say its his alcoholism.
00:23.02dino82_the Black Widow gets rid of her enemies as well :D
00:23.13Vincent20100Gotta love her!
00:23.19MonetOh yeah Black Widow's a good one.
00:23.24HachimanAye Black Widow
00:23.24Thunderlord1234Did anybody on the wiki get inspiration from these heroes anyway?
00:23.33HachimanPossibly
00:23.55DrodoEmpireI generally base my characters, however vaguely, off of historical figures
00:24.07HachimanIt should be noted that it is the Hulk who kills his enemies and not Bruce Banner
00:24.08dino82_hmm, some I guess did
00:24.09DrodoEmpireOr an archetype of historical figure anyway, so like an aristocratic officer in general
00:24.29dino82_Claire took a bit of inspiration of Lighting (FF13) and the Black Widow
00:24.30HachimanBut then anybody who reads about the Hulk probably knows that already
00:25.17MonetI wonder, as we're moving into the late 2010s I think it's getting less and less plausable that Blac kWidow is ex-KGB.
00:25.32HachimanWhy would that be?
00:25.35HachimanPutin is ex-KGB
00:25.56Thunderlord1234Anyway Does Anybody's Empire or Race Fiction Use Alien like Designs and not Some World War 2 Human Technology Design
00:26.09MonetBecause the KGB dissolved in the early 90s and Black Widow is young ,unlike Putin.
00:26.14DrodoEmpireYes, many do
00:26.26MonetGuy's 63
00:26.49Thunderlord1234Something like this alien design http://www.mkone.org/nggallery/UnivatWar/UnivatWar0555.jpg
00:27.07HachimanBlack Widow could have joined the KGB in its late stages, or she could have aged quite well, or she just uses a ton of foundation
00:27.17DrodoEmpirehur
00:27.24MonetBlack Widow also needs to be incredibly flexible
00:27.42MonetBut I do wonder if later incarnations start using some life extension formula
00:28.08HachimanConsider that she is ex-KGB and now a member of S.H.I.E.L.D.
00:28.12HachimanAnything is possible
00:28.27MonetNick Fury was oen of the Howling Commandos - Which would make him (by now) at *least* 90
00:29.04HachimanAre we talking both Fury(s)?
00:29.08MonetAs they are a WWII unit. In the ocmics he took an early attempt to reproduce the super-soldier-serum that was hardly as potent as Cap's, but kept him young-ish
00:29.15MonetComic Fury
00:30.01HachimanIf he took the same or some derivative of the stuff Captain America used, then yeah, I can understand him being kept young enough to still fight
00:30.46MonetIn the Captain America film, the closest we get is Gabriel Jones.
00:31.36Thunderlord1234Also one last question has anyone ever had a order 66 in there fiction where a Faction Member Declares a Faction in there empire traitor's
00:31.47DrodoEmpireNot really
00:32.25DrodoEmpireUnless you count the recent coup in the Drodo Empire, though really that was just the overthrowing and exile of a single ruler who wasn't popular
00:33.04MonetOrder 66 was incredibly dodgy.
00:33.12DrodoEmpire^
00:34.09MonetShort of brainwashing (which itself would cause a public outcry) you'd get loyalty conflict.
00:35.08MonetI recall there are a number of historical accounts of generals being declared outlaws or criminals, and said generals taking entire regiments with them.
00:35.59DrodoEmpireIndeed
00:36.11DrodoEmpireIt was a popular pastime in Rome. :p
00:36.13Thunderlord1234And also does anyone use there fiction on the actual game spore i do
00:36.16MonetAnd if the Jedi were considered generals during the Clone Wars, nothing short of post-hypnotic suggestion or mental conditioning would prevent at least a few clone troopers joining the Jedi.
00:37.10DrodoEmpireThunderlord: Not since forever
00:37.20DrodoEmpireThe Drodo are based off of my first save game, actually
00:37.27DrodoEmpireBut that was *years* ago
00:37.45DrodoEmpireCurrent Drodo have no relation really
00:38.05MonetI haven't played the actual game itself in years.
00:39.46Thunderlord1234Because the game Has Roleplayer's but not many Space Roleplayer's most of the People who have empires are  on the Sporewiki
00:45.29Thunderlord1234You see
00:53.10Thunderlord1234anyway i'm thinking about asking if i could join the andromedon pan?
00:54.56MonetWith the Virginia coalition?
00:55.37HachimanI think Tybusen owns the State of Virginia
00:55.48DrodoEmpireUnder POTATO yeah
00:56.03DrodoEmpireThunderlord asked Tyb about it on his wall though, dunno if he got a response yet
00:58.33MonetI'd condier putting off joining fiction until the coalition's history fits and works,
01:00.14MonetSolidify your faction before you start comitting is what I'd suggest.
01:05.56DrodoEmpirehttps://vine.co/v/iwKm6wppIIH - drom Wormy_
01:06.14dromSeen
01:06.19dromcute af
01:09.39Wormy_Yeah, drom beat you to it
01:10.28DrodoEmpire>:
01:26.51Thunderlord1234There not the Coliation There a Different Faction there Confederate's
01:28.18The_RandomnessI hate to sound like a prick, but if you are planning on eventually doing writing here, please work on your capitalization and such
01:28.33Thunderlord1234ok
01:29.30Wormy_Hm, I used to use a lot of exclamation marks http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon
01:29.55DrodoEmpirelol
01:29.59The_Randomnesslol
01:30.19Wormy_that page is pure fanboyism
01:30.38TekDroidEven just Wormy_'s tone of writing there sounds weird.
01:31.12Wormy_That's how I used to be here
01:34.03DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd8JqNkUkAEQoS7.jpg:large
01:34.04Wormy_"I am a Wormulon from planert Mirenton", I couldn't even remember the name of my Grimbos http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon?diff=next&oldid=77371
01:34.42The_RandomnessDrodoEmpire: 420/10
01:36.25The_RandomnessI'm off for tonight, see you guys later
01:36.30DrodoEmpireWormy_ Yeah I've noticed an odd thing with newer users, where they roleplay as their characters like straight from their userpage
01:36.35DrodoEmpireIf that makes sense
01:39.41Wormy_yeah
01:46.19DrodoEmpiretest
02:08.04Wormy_h3h3 Vape Nation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkm8Hteeh6M
02:08.38DrodoEmpireohgod
02:09.32DrodoEmpireHis level of not giving a shit is close to Filthy Frank's. XD
02:11.23Wormy_somebody vaped their filthy breath in my face yesterday and now I have a sore throat
02:11.43DrodoEmpireAw gross
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06:13.55ImpyDroidVincent20100: http://i.imgur.com/UnoLyyi.png
06:30.40ImpyDroidhi
06:30.49Liquid_InkHello
06:31.00ImpyDroidThunderlord1234: Hm, where are you from?
06:32.15ImpyDroidAlso who is bkpark
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07:50.56AdmiralPandahi all
07:54.09Liquid_InkHey
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08:49.38ImpyDroidHi
08:56.33ImpyDroidHi Panda to be precise
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09:51.24ImpyDroid11uu
09:52.21ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: Did Indians have any two-handed swords?
09:52.41ImpyDroidAll swords I have read about were one-handed
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10:44.56Wormy_hi
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12:20.32Wormy_hi
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12:37.43ImpyDroidHi
12:37.56ImpyDroidOluapPlayer Wormy_: http://fontsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Illuminati-font.jpg
12:38.30OluapPlayerhi
12:38.34OluapPlayerYour link doesn't work
12:38.51Wormy_indeed
12:45.02ImpyDroidWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/ZuRwWtel.jpg There
12:49.44Wormy_its cool
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12:51.06HachimanHi
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13:04.00ImpyDroidhi
13:04.46ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/78/CRE_Master_Ilthron-0c3505fa_ful.png/revision/latest?cb=20110918135022 ..
13:04.52ImpyDroidRemind me why did I do this
13:05.24OluapPlayerSame reason you made Irsk as a Mali'Nar
13:06.14ImpyDroidOh yes Irsk husbando
13:07.47ImpyDroidNot sure if dump him or use him
13:07.57ImpyDroidI have an idea for him
13:08.15ImpyDroidBut I am not sure if you folks would accept an Asgord character seriously
13:09.00OluapPlayerHonestly I don't take any of the Eola'Nar seriously except for Felaanith and Divin-Ra
13:09.09ImpyDroidBr?
13:09.17ImpyDroidWhat about Br and Dare?
13:09.21ImpyDroid*Sarec
13:09.25OluapPlayer"it's a loron but smart"
13:09.33OluapPlayerAnd Sarec is not your character
13:09.35ImpyDroidTrue
13:09.59ImpyDroidI presume it is because it has been ages since I used any of them
13:10.09ImpyDroidThey are all remnants of the old age
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13:10.12ImpyDroidhi
13:10.15Monethi
13:10.27OluapPlayerIt's because they feel like you made them for the sake of irony
13:10.37OluapPlayerLoron but smart, Asgord but evil, Tahar but god-like
13:12.08ImpyDroidtrue
13:12.19MonetWhat's this?
13:12.38ImpyDroidMonet: Me thinking what to do with minor Nars I wrote about in 2012
13:12.48OluapPlayerImp rediscovered his evil Asgord mali'nar
13:13.02ImpyDroidyes
13:14.31ImpyDroidBr is threatening but, as OP noticed, hardly Loronic
13:14.34ImpyDroidLoronly
13:14.38ImpyDroidLoronish
13:14.52ImpyDroidAnd the rest were just plain sillt
13:15.06MonetYeah. I know they're suppsoed to be outcasts.
13:15.55ImpyDroidActually there is also Iovera
13:17.35HachimanFucked an edgelord dragonman
13:18.04ImpyDroidMonet: They are outcasts but they are supposed to be more credible
13:18.10ImpyDroidAnd more... existent
13:18.21ImpyDroidACTUALLY
13:19.15ImpyDroidConsidering that Nars are involved in lots of conspiracies, Alo'emonraz  (and other Malis) could masquerade as civilians
13:19.30ImpyDroidAcrually
13:19.38ImpyDroidWhat about Alo as a political pundit of some sort
13:20.31ImpyDroidA bright cheerful guy who promotes conspiracy theories and stirs shit up through mass media
13:21.09ImpyDroidbrb
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13:25.48HachimanWormy_: Suggs from Madness helped rebuild the pier in Hastings and has confirmed that Madness will play at the official opening ceremony for it#
13:26.02HachimanI might go since I like Madness
13:26.56ImpyDroidDid anyone say anything?
13:27.09Hachimannon
13:28.39ImpyDroiddum
13:30.24MonetImpyDroid: So Alo' seeds paranoia by spreading paranoia of conspiracy?
13:30.33ImpyDroidYa
13:31.01ImpyDroidWhile still being, at least ostensibly, friendly and cheerful so not too atypical for an Asgord
13:31.18ImpyDroidThink Russia Today or Fox News hur
13:31.56ImpyDroidHachiman: https://youtu.be/c5TevQushuY Good Lord
13:32.21HachimanBut why
13:33.01HachimanNote that I do not like either Batman or MLP hur
13:34.56ImpyDroidThis is Batman voicing MLP lines
13:35.05ImpyDroidRegardless of your opinion on either franchise
13:35.08ImpyDroidThis is gols
13:35.10ImpyDroid*gold
13:37.19Hachiman"Answer me this, Angel Bunny; do you bleed?"
13:37.24HachimanWhat the fuck was that an actual line
13:38.26ImpyDroidLikely a reference
13:38.55ImpyDroidThough MLP had Game of Thrones references in it so it could as well be an actual line
13:39.48HachimanYeah but that was a reference to an overused meme
13:39.55HachimanAnd came off as awkward
13:40.01MonetGame of thrones. Seriously?
13:46.48ImpyDroidMonet: Two references to God
13:46.51ImpyDroid*GoT
13:47.10ImpyDroidOne when there was, well... an unexpected winter
13:47.54ImpyDroidAnd the other one is... welll
13:47.58ImpyDroidMonet: https://youtu.be/B-U8Lnc7G2I
13:49.02Monet...the entire opening to Game of Thrones.
13:49.04HachimanWait
13:49.07HachimanThat was an ACTUAL thing
13:49.14ImpyDroidYes
13:49.33MonetLooks promotional
13:49.42ImpyDroidYeah it is a Hub promo
13:49.48MonetAell, it did its job.
13:49.54HachimanWhat the fuck
13:49.58HachimanI thought it was fanmade
13:50.47ImpyDroidNope
13:55.17MonetMy Dwarven Mayor is a selfish bastard/
13:55.38MonetI get like three mandates to make greaves and thne he prohibits their export.
13:57.46MonetHe must really like metal trousers
14:06.32Wormy_Hachiman:  Yeah, that will be awesome
14:06.47HachimanYou should come
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14:07.00HachimanSo I can drink you under the table when they're finished hur
14:07.30Wormy_I started listening to Madness at countryside college, where we got up to lots of shits and giggles while it played working outside
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18:43.05Wormy_Sorry for not responding, was emailing someone
18:43.53ImpyDroidrite
18:44.21Wormy_Are you suggesting the Radeon and humanity had a conflict?
18:45.40ImpyDroidPretty much
18:45.50ImpyDroidBasically here's the way I imagine it:)
18:45.53ImpyDroidoops
18:45.57ImpyDroidAnyway
18:47.25ImpyDroidCenturies before modern human civilisation appeared, the Church of Spode first explored Orion's Spur, where it found, converted and absorbed a local species of near-humans living near Earth - probably from Alpha Centauri
18:47.57GhelawayI don't think we have a canon first contact for humanity. So why not make it Radeons?
18:48.40Wormy_Indeed
18:48.45ImpyDroidGhelaway: Lo and behold, Earth invaded by GIANT RATS
18:49.06ImpyDroidHowever later on the Church would become weaker and lose power, making these near-humans practically independent
18:49.44Wormy_Also, the Radeon weren't alone in transplanting humans
18:50.00Wormy_in ancient times
18:50.07GhelawayEarth is invaded by giant rats. Astrobiologists and hard sci-fi writers are disappointed that aliens really are just humanoid animals after all.
18:50.09ImpyDroid(Similar processes would have probably happened all over the Gigaquadrant with the Church weakening)
18:50.49Wormy_Yes, the Delphan Corgel are Spodist believers
18:50.54MonetIt's interesting how partial to transplanting species the ancient civilisations have been
18:51.22ImpyDroidSo eventually some Terran nations would begin slowly annexing these Spodist near-human worlds, with whatever Radeons that lived there getting the boot or even outright exterminated
18:52.00ImpyDroid(again humans were probably not the only species that chipped away Radeon territory)
18:52.31ImpyDroidThis would cause radicals on Vendespode to take power and go full "MAKE THE CHURCH GREAT AGAIN" mode
18:54.18Monetmaybe the Vulcan faith was a sect of Massari?
18:54.47ImpyDroidI would rather avoid fanfiction but could be
18:55.02Wormy_Or a Goa'uld System Lord who has infected a Radeon rather than a human
18:55.05Wormy_Alright
18:55.56Wormy_Or the Goa'uld start infecting Radeon high command lol (joking)
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18:59.54MonetI like how in GTA V online you get people who are fien dressing as this http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/284098101642345927/5936805A1B4688910A82A07E85EBC8C3748DC043/
19:00.10Wormy_Stupid Facebook is making me select images because I'm posting a link to my own facebook profile
19:00.14Wormy_How dumb is that
19:00.25MonetI'd prefer my own character in a $4000 suit but it really makes LS feel alive.
19:00.45ImpyDroid2Wormy_: These guys could be descendants of an ancient human civilisation
19:00.56ImpyDroid2Remind me what ancient civilizations do we have
19:01.28ImpyDroid2*we have
19:01.34Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AOrion_Spur#Species
19:01.38MonetFunniest thing abotu that guy is he most likely has three six-figure supercars and a mansion in the hills.
19:02.11Wormy_Ancient humans, Ataeiens, Chitauri and Draconis were the main ones doing it
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19:04.28MonetThen again thinks to the skill system he's basically meth-head wose a crrack shot, drives like a professional rally driver and can run for miles.
19:04.38Monetthanks to*
19:06.36Wormy_ImpyDroid2:  Funnily enough this first contact makes me think of how humans and Minbari met in Babylon 5
19:07.00Wormy_Because the Minbari were advanced, but quite religious folk
19:07.45Wormy_Humans mistook the Minbari's (dumb) custom of having gun ports open as a sign of respect
19:08.00Wormy_Humans (also dumb), rashly responded
19:08.26Wormy_Minbari then tried to exterminate humanity and nearly succeeded
19:11.30Wormy_scene https://youtu.be/87J9NqWHNzw?t=2m14s
19:11.39Wormy_slightly modified
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19:12.01ZF101Hello all.
19:12.59Monethi
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19:13.48DrodoEmpireHi everyone
19:16.34Wormy_Earth Alliance ships are how I imagine early Terran SporeWikiverse designs
19:17.59DrodoEmpireHm/
19:18.01DrodoEmpire*?
19:18.17Wormy_Omega Class Destroyer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3eSXfhL9AA
19:19.04Wormy_uses  centrifugal force for artificial gravity
19:19.13DrodoEmpireAhh
19:19.49*** join/#sporewiki OfficerJackal_ (~OfficerJa@2601:6c0:4202:1ad0:c006:1edf:6dd0:7046)
19:20.46Wormy_compared to the graceful, more advanced designs of the Minbari http://www.isnnews.net/hyperspace/minb/index.html
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19:22.24Wormy_I've said it before and I'll say it again, that Jumpship looks like those Girdo Imperial ships http://www.isnnews.net/hyperspace/orgs/index.html
19:22.49ImperiosWormy_: Hm
19:23.04ImperiosRemember these Lemurians etc guys?
19:23.24ImperiosDid these become spacefaring in SporeWiki canon?
19:23.28ImperiosOr did they stay on Earth?
19:24.46Wormy_Canon http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AOrion_Spur#Archaeohumanity
19:27.54ImperiosCould these Alpha Centari guys be Lemurians then perhaps
19:28.14Wormy_Quite possibly
19:28.47Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent) ohgod
19:28.57Imperios"Le Plongeon claimed that the civilization of ancient Egypt was founded by Queen Moo, a refugee from the land's demise."
19:29.01Wormy_I assume the wormholes left by the Ancient Humans operate a bit like stargates, simple enough for the primitive yet highly spiritually evolved Pamantians could use
19:29.12Imperios>Queen Moo
19:29.25ImperiosHachiman: "In the 1930s, Ataturk, founder of the Turkish Republic, was interested in Churchward's work and considered Mu as a possible location of the original homeland of the Turks."
19:29.34ImperiosThe ultimate ancient kebab
19:29.58ImperiosWe must find it to REMOVE it
19:30.40Wormy_Maybe the Pamant were Turkmen?
19:30.40OluapPlayerMu - just try it nerd
19:31.05Wormy_in yo face white extremist psuedohistorians
19:31.22DrodoEmpireImperios: There was actually a really cool mod for EUIV that had Mu and Lemuria in it
19:31.25DrodoEmpireAlongside Atlantis
19:31.27DrodoEmpireIt was a lot of fun
19:32.07ImperiosWormy_: Radeons having ancient alien Turks as allies
19:32.20ImperiosConsidering that the Divinarium was largely based on the Byzantine Empire
19:32.23ImperiosThis feels awfully ironic
19:33.47Wormy_heh
19:34.45Wormy_Hm, is it possible Radeon visited Earth in later times?
19:35.10Wormy_Actually maybe not
19:35.28Wormy_Draconis and Greys were guarding it from aloie influence by that point
19:35.52ImperiosDraconis guarding it
19:36.14Wormy_From the Chitauri
19:36.18ImperiosIovera - WHY DID YOU NOT LET US IN I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS
19:36.33Wormy_Maybe they can let in friends
19:37.17Wormy_I actually made a mistake.  In Marvel comics, they are called Chitauri, but the original legend is spelled differently.
19:37.53ImperiosChi Tauri
19:38.00ImperiosWormy_: About Turks
19:38.25ImperiosLet's add Turanism and the fringe linguistic theory of Altaic languages into it and make Mu the original Turanic homeland
19:38.33ImperiosSounds weird but could work
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19:39.50Thunderlord1234I feel like this wiki, should have a page for knowing how to add pictures to fiction's or video's or perhaps how to do ***History*** Ex it's hard to remember this stuff.
19:41.11ImperiosIt's not that difficult
19:41.16ImperiosJust look at other pages' layouts
19:41.17ImperiosAnd copy it
19:41.33ImperiosLike enter the edit window, look what everything looks like
19:41.36ImperiosAnd reverse engineer it
19:41.40MonetWormy_: You have the Chitauri and the Skrulls
19:42.30Wormy_Imperios is right, the best way to learn editing formats is to view the layouts of existing pages.
19:42.35MonetMCU used the Chitauri from the Ultimate universe. But the Skrulls are pretty-much the same; shapeshifting humanoid reptile aliens from Andromeda.
19:42.52ImperiosMonet: Actually I found it weird that the MCU not used the Skrulls
19:43.10ImperiosWhen I was watching Avengers I was like "WTF are these aliens where are the green Skrulls from Fan4stic"
19:43.19Thunderlord1234Can i get a link to the Layout's
19:43.28Wormy_The original Chitauri were spelled more like "Chitahuli", but I can't find them now :/
19:43.55MonetImperios: The Skrulsl may have been a bit corny.
19:44.01Wormy_Thunderlord:  Just look at any page with content you want to base on, then go to "Edit this page" to see how they have been made.
19:44.04ImperiosTrue
19:44.28Thunderlord1234ok.
19:44.42MonetThough they added the Kree in GotG so maybe the Skrulls are coming at some point.
19:44.54ImperiosMight be copyright issues
19:45.03ImperiosFox has control over like half of Marvel
19:45.15ImperiosMonet: Speaking of which what are these Kree fellows
19:45.31Wormy_Say hypothetically you wanted this template http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AOrion_Spur#Species, you would go here http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Orion_Spur?action=edit&section=7
19:45.35ImperiosI do not remember them from the comics but they're like connected to the inhumans aren't they
19:45.45MonetRonan's a rogue element but he is something of a zealot of Kree philosophy.
19:45.51ImperiosThese guys who smoke weed to get superpowers
19:46.04ImperiosMonet: So basically Ben Laden to Kree's Saudi Arabia
19:46.48MonetSomething like that. But generalyl the Kree are super-strict and obsessed with order.
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19:47.33ImperiosOH wait it is bin laden
19:47.35Imperiosmy mistake
19:47.45ImperiosJews have "ben", Arabs have "ibn" or "bin"
19:48.02Imperios"bat" and "bint" for women respectively
19:49.56XhoOluapPlayer: WHOLE TOWN IS GUILTY
19:50.02ImperiosWormy_: Anyway, if my comment about "Turanism" was not clear
19:50.20TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, interview unearthed from one of Nixon's advisers has admitted that the war on drugs was designed to target black people and the anti-war left
19:50.27TechnobliteratorSo, I guess I was right? ;)
19:50.31Wormy_Yes, please tell me more
19:50.40Thunderlord1234How Powerfull are the drodo's Drodoempire
19:52.07ImperiosRight so there is an (admittedly flimsy) theory, based mostly on (again, flimsy, but it is there) linguistic evidence, that several Asian ethnicities originated from a common ancestor
19:52.25TechnobliteratorThere is also a belief that Mayans were Asians
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19:52.32TechnobliteratorNot sure I buy that
19:52.36MonetNixon being shifty? *shock* *horror*
19:52.39ImperiosTechnobliterator: Because they were good mathematicians?
19:52.44HachimanNative Americans are Mongoloid descendants
19:52.50ImperiosYeah they came from Siberia
19:52.55Wormy_I've encountered a theory that there was Chinese contact with the Mayans, but I'm doubtful
19:52.55TechnobliteratorThat, and something to do with the uh
19:52.58Technobliteratorsome spine thingy
19:52.59ImperiosWhich means they're basically Russians
19:53.05ImperiosENTIRE AMERICA BELONGS TO US
19:53.07HachimanAMERICA WAS ALWAYS RED
19:53.14ImperiosSEE
19:53.16ImperiosTHEY WERE RED
19:53.17ImperiosFURTHER PROOF
19:53.38Technobliteratoroh god
19:53.43Thunderlord1234Did i make him mad? /:
19:53.48Technobliteratormy homework is to design a page for a video tutorial page
19:53.51Technobliteratorso dull
19:54.00Wormy_I actually read that Native Americans have some genetic differences to many Asian populations, and are not as directly related as once thought
19:54.06Wormy_Recently data
19:54.35ImperiosWormy_: Anyway so among these peoples whose languages and some traditions are notably similar are the Turks (and their relatives - KAZAKHSTAN GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD), the Mongols (again, alongside their relatives), and the Manchus
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19:54.45ImperiosAs well as the Japanese and the Koreans
19:54.47ImperiosHi Cyr
19:54.50CyrannianHi everyone
19:55.04Technobliteratorhihi
19:55.07Technobliteratorinsert reckoning nag
19:55.08Monethi
19:55.09ImperiosThis theory is particularily popular in Turkey and South Korea (if my Korean teacher's ramblings are any indication)
19:55.29Wormy_interesting
19:55.40Cyrannianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_H3_g9PhnM - Darth Vader with young Anakin's voice, haven't laughed so hard in ages
19:55.44ImperiosSo basically bow-slinging horsemen
19:56.15Thunderlord1234Hey how do i make a image
19:56.18OluapPlayer~destroy Cyrannian
19:56.18infobotno
19:56.21Cyrannian~smash OluapPlayer
19:56.22infobotACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction
19:56.30Wormy_Weren't there Turkik peoples as far as China in ancient times though?
19:57.10ImperiosYeah, there still are
19:57.14ImperiosUyghurs for example
19:57.52Wormy_Yeah I meant, going way back long enough to be unsurprised that language similarities exist
19:58.49ImperiosHuns are also somewhere there
19:59.30HachimanWell, the Japanese and Chinese are related ethnic groups
19:59.34HachimanBarring Ainu
20:00.22ImperiosThey're related but noy *directly* related, that is they lack a common ancestor
20:00.58ImperiosIt was more like China spreading their culture, tradition, language and, to a lesser extent, genes to them rather than them being actual relatives
20:01.02ImperiosThink Romans and Brits
20:01.11HachimanWell logically all humans have a common ancestor
20:01.21ImperiosWell a close common ancestor
20:01.30ImperiosThe Japanese are basically the Brits of Asia come to think about it
20:02.05ImperiosRight so back to these related peoples
20:02.52ImperiosNationalists in these "Altaic" countries eventually developed this theory into an ideology and believed the "Turanic" peoples should work together
20:03.04MonetI think I saw somewhere that suggested very few Brits have Roman blood. More Norman, Celtic, Nordic or Anglo-Saxon.
20:03.10ImperiosThat's called "Turanism", after the legendary Turkic homeland
20:03.13ImperiosTuran
20:03.27MonetBut I get where you're coming from
20:05.02ImperiosNow imagine if these Mu fellows somehow interacted with these supposed ancient Turanians
20:05.38ImperiosWe'll have SPACE MONGOLS
20:07.38Thunderlord1234Eh it's getting a little hard but trying is best.
20:07.58ImperiosSpace Divinarium mongols even
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20:09.45Wormy_hi
20:10.07ImperiosWormy_: Now imagine if these Mu fellows somehow interacted with these supposed ancient Turanians, and maybe influenced their horsemanship traditions
20:10.11ImperiosSPACE MONGOLS
20:12.43Thunderlord1234I Think i messed up http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Virginian_Confederation
20:15.58Wormy_That's a cool idea, and somewhat scary
20:16.15Wormy_We don't have enough "Wanderer" species in the SporeWikiverse
20:17.32ImperiosThe Divinarium would have probably civilised them somewhat though
20:17.42ImperiosAnd yeah maybe they could be nomadic
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20:29.15Thunderlord1234How is it know http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Virginian_Confederation
20:34.08Thunderlord1234hmm
20:59.22OluapPlayerImperios: http://i.imgur.com/dDGdzWv.jpg
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21:02.29Thunderlord1234uh oh something happend again http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Virginian_Confederation
21:03.19Vincent20100Mm?
21:04.18GhelaptopDon't start paragraphs with a space; MediaWiki takes that as a command to put the following text in a box.
21:07.12ImperiosOluap: Taurcs
21:08.07OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajexE9NUmn8
21:09.26Thunderlord1234Oh thank's but can i ask if someone can edit or do i have to do it my self
21:11.19GhelaptopIn principle, somebody else - possibly myself - could edit it, but all you need to do is remove the space at the start of your writing.
21:12.00Thunderlord1234Thanks could you help i removed it
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21:12.28GhelaptopI suppose I could clean up the rest of the page for you as well to show you what to do, but you'll need to learn how to do that yourself too.
21:12.43GhelaptopIt has been mentioned that SporeWiki doesn't have a guide to using MediaWiki, but...
21:13.28Ghelaptop...that's partly because there are far better guides elsewhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup
21:14.22Thunderlord1234I Really don't Understand?
21:15.04GhelaptopWhat is it that you don't understand?
21:15.23Thunderlord1234The Markups can i do it without them?
21:15.42XhoOluapPlayer: Well that escalated
21:15.53TechnobliteratorUh, if you use HTML markup, yes, but I doubt you'd understand that any better
21:16.19Thunderlord1234Thank's
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21:16.58HachimanClosed my browser by accident#
21:19.41OluapPlayerstoopid
21:19.46OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Are you free to rp
21:19.46XhoHachiman: https://www.facebook.com/memeshuggah/videos/193486724350270/?permPage=1
21:20.05TechnobliteratorI am, I would've done stuff earlier, but I had this coursework that I really should've done earlier
21:20.07Technobliteratorbut it's just
21:20.08Technobliteratorugh
21:20.09Technobliteratoryeah sure
21:20.34OluapPlayerRight
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21:20.43Hachimannoice
21:20.47Wormy_hi
21:20.47Technobliteratorlike
21:20.55Technobliteratorthere's just this dumb coursework that's so boring
21:21.00Technobliteratorand I don't know how to do what it wants
21:21.06Technobliteratorwithout basically copying a design from something else
21:21.45Technobliteratorwell
21:21.51TechnobliteratorI think I know what I'm doing with it
21:21.53Technobliteratorso we can rp now
21:21.57Technobliteratorand i'll finish after
21:22.10MonetHave you considered decosntructing this 'something else'?
21:22.12OluapPlayerGet on the pad then
21:22.18Thunderlord1234i'd like to join the roleplay but i'm probably gonna use races outside of my umm Fiction
21:23.27OluapPlayerYou're not involved in this
21:24.04Thunderlord1234ok. /:
21:24.08TechnobliteratorOnly users from the original war can be involved in the remake
21:24.31TechnobliteratorIt's not because we want to exclude people, it's because we want it to be faithful to the original
21:25.04Thunderlord1234Ok And also when people first joined the wiki was you're first time like me?
21:25.13DrodoEmpireSorta
21:25.27DrodoEmpireFirst coming on to the wiki is difficult at times
21:26.00Thunderlord1234But Remember The Marker's And you're good
21:26.07Thunderlord1234And The File Command
21:26.25TechnobliteratorIt's really distracting you misusing capital letters...
21:26.54Thunderlord1234umm ok then i well put off caps lock?
21:27.34TechnobliteratorNo, just, type like this, As Opposed to like This Because it is Not Proper english
21:27.36Technobliteratorbasically
21:27.50GhelaptopBut if you don't use capital letters properly, its far less distracting to not use any punctuation Than It Is To Use Punctuation In The Wrong Place.
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21:28.22GhelaptopErm, I meant to start that second clause as a new sentence to make the lack of capitalisation more obvious.
21:28.40Thunderlord1234How Do You Space Word's in you're fiction for example I've pressed edit on fictions and see them have longer pages and you can soom very far.
21:28.45Thunderlord1234Zoom.
21:30.25dromPractising for a pre-college exam. One of the questions is "is <a large scramble of square root of decimal numbers and sqaure root of even more deciamls divided by square root of more decimals> larger than 3?"
21:30.56GhelaptopMost pages are longer because they have more words in them. That's often because of how much work has been put into giving them lots of information.
21:31.02Ghelaptopdrom: No calculator allowed, I assume?
21:32.25Cyrannianhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a0/CoreWorlds.png/revision/latest?cb=20160323213203 - c map
21:32.41dromGhelaptop: Yep
21:32.44Ghelaptopcs map
21:32.53dromAll manual
21:33.42Thunderlord1234is there any guides on the sporewiki?
21:33.55dromGhelaptop: There is even an option for "insufficient provided information" http://i.imgur.com/fh4uK5F.png
21:33.58TechnobliteratorYes, there's the fiction guidelines page, which we made pretty clear
21:34.46DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe
21:34.56Ghelaptopdrom: I hope you do know how to work that out.
21:35.03DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Important_Topics
21:35.20DrodoEmpireSome of this may be outdated, so don't be afraid to ask around
21:35.31DrodoEmpireThunderlord1234
21:35.34dromGhelaptop: Those are told examples from two years ago.
21:35.37dromold*
21:36.00GhelaptopI'm just saying, it's not a problem if you know what Sqrt(0.16) is.
21:36.48drom0,4?
21:36.56Wormy_Thunderlord1234:  It might have already been said to you, but you want our advise on making articles:  I find it really uncomfortable to read The Virginian Confederation because of the way you used capital letters for every new word.  My suggestions is that you don't do that.
21:37.05Ghelaptopdrom: Yes.
21:37.10Thunderlord1234could i go to edit this page and and look on this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Guidelines/Good_Starter_Example
21:37.16Thunderlord1234it might help
21:37.25dromIn that sense then, the option C ("I is equal to II") is viable
21:37.31GhelaptopThunderlord1234: Yes, you can look at it.
21:37.39Ghelaptopdrom: Not just viable, but correct. :P
21:37.39DrodoEmpirePlease don't edit the page though
21:38.02dromGhelaptop: Well, this is Swedish education
21:38.05Technobliteratoris that not protected?
21:38.36Wormy_If it's protected, Thunderlord should be able to go to View Source
21:39.07DrodoEmpireRight, I dunno either way
21:39.33Thunderlord1234yes source
21:40.14HachimanWormy_: "You're a unit of power, Harry." "I'm a watt?"
21:40.39Wormy_lol
21:49.03Wormy_I want to get this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-Agent-Based-Modeling-Natural-Engineered/dp/0262731894/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458769730&sr=8-1&keywords=agent+based+modelling
21:49.27Wormy_But the fact it uses *really old* programming language puts me off
21:49.51Wormy_Then again I might be able to take it into more modern things
21:50.21Thunderlord1234how is it know ? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Virginian_Confederation
21:50.25Thunderlord1234tried using markers
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21:51.28GhelaptopYou need to add line breaks before and after ==History== but it's looking neater than it was before.
21:51.40Wormy_That's much better.  To make == headers == work you need to make sure there are line breaks.
21:53.35Thunderlord1234what's a line break and how
21:53.40Wormy_Some full stops (or periods), would help break up long sentences.
21:54.06Wormy_Well the == header == needs to be right next to the edge of the page, and not in a body of text
21:54.09GhelaptopA line break is a line with no next on it. So you add one by pressing the return or enter key twice.
21:54.13Ghelaptopno text*
21:54.53GhelaptopActually, you only need to do it once before (and once after) headers like ==History==
21:55.07Wormy_Like this:
21:55.13Wormy_The Confederation Otherwise Are Neutral And Use Human Weapons to there motive's. <end of line>
21:55.22Wormy_==History==
21:55.22Thunderlord1234there
21:55.31Thunderlord1234http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Virginian_Confederation
21:55.44Wormy_Well done
21:55.46GhelaptopYeah, you got it.
21:57.07Thunderlord1234Permission To Be in Andromeda
21:59.30Wormy_I don't think you need it for Andromeda anymore, but Monet or ImpyDroid are the people to ask.
21:59.41ImpyDroidYou can
21:59.56ImpyDroidThis Virginia thing can be either a PAE member state or exarchate or independent
22:00.05ImpyDroidWhere do you want to put it?
22:01.04ImpyDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/LSmTkE6l.jpg On this map
22:01.34ImpyDroidCentral regions, XI and XII are PAE
22:01.51ImpyDroidVIII is dangerous as fuck
22:02.03ImpyDroidVI is terrorist
22:02.11ImpyDroidOther regions are just empty
22:02.16Wormy_I like these http://imgur.com/gallery/ncKFR
22:02.20Thunderlord1234What's a Pae Member
22:02.32ImpyDroidPart of the Pan-Andromedan Ecumene
22:02.48ImpyDroidThey are a federation basically so you can be a member
22:04.31Thunderlord1234and how do you add images again i wanna do the whole millitary thign
22:05.30Thunderlord1234and what if i declared war on the pan am i doomed
22:06.11ImpyDroidThey are probably just going to disarm or maybe subjugate you
22:06.37ImpyDroidWould be a funny side story
22:06.37Thunderlord1234Who's the actual owner i ask.
22:06.59ImpyDroidOf PAE?
22:07.08Thunderlord1234PAN
22:07.08ImpyDroidMe, Monet, Baguette and Xho
22:07.18ImpyDroidBaguette is Charles Murray BTW
22:07.24ImpyDroidBut mostly the first three
22:07.31ImpyDroidHachiman was once involved as well
22:08.09ImpyDroidPAN?
22:08.14ImpyDroidI do not follow
22:08.25ImpyDroidWhat does it stand for
22:08.31HachimanI was once involved but then Frenchie replaced me
22:09.19Thunderlord1234who should i ask?
22:09.29ImpyDroidAsk for what
22:09.36ImpyDroidHachiman: BAGUETTE UP YOUR ARSE
22:09.50HachimanFUCK OFF COMMIE
22:10.10OluapPlayerjust shup and kiss already
22:10.17HachimanWHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO NORTH KOREA AND STARVE
22:10.23HachimanAnyway
22:10.37Thunderlord1234to join pan
22:10.49ImpyDroidBy PAN you mean PAE right?
22:10.51HachimanPan as in, Pan-Andromeda
22:11.03Thunderlord1234yes
22:11.24ImpyDroidMe, Frenchie or Monet
22:11.26Thunderlord1234should i ask Peter Pan
22:11.29ImpyDroidI am here so I let you
22:11.46ImpyDroidYOUR FEEBLE ATTEMPTS AT HUMOUR ARE UNWELCOME HERE
22:11.53ImpyDroidBut yeah you can join
22:12.33ImpyDroidRead the page and choose where you want to be and what do you want to so
22:12.35ImpyDroid*do
22:13.47Thunderlord1234btw how do you add pictures
22:14.11ImpyDroidded
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22:20.56MonetI'm sure we've tried explaining Thunderlord
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22:23.21Wormy_Add pictures to the main body of text, or to the infofox?
22:23.26Wormy_*infobox
22:24.04Wormy_Of course, the best thing for you to learn and memorise it is to find what other people have done.
22:24.19Wormy_Then if you get stuck, come back to us.
22:25.10GhelaptopYes. We all learned as much as we could by ourselves.
22:25.24Wormy_Wikia also has great support pages http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Editing
22:26.26Thunderlord1234main
22:26.52Wormy_Actually, they are not so great
22:27.31Wormy_Wikipedia's pages on editing help are very informative, and we use practically the same code
22:28.06GhelaptopYeah; I learned from Wikipedia's help pages.
22:29.28Thunderlord1234does anyone have a insectoid race
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22:30.10The_RandomnessHello
22:30.17GhelaptopHello.
22:30.33GhelaptopThunderlord1234: There are lots of insectoid races on the wiki.
22:31.14Wormy_Some might consider the Grimbolsaurians insectoid, though they are really vertebrates
22:31.17The_Randomnessbrb
22:31.19GhelaptopI'm not certain, but I'd suggest that most users who have multiple species have at least one insectoid.
22:31.34Wormy_I do have the Mantisorac
22:31.38Wormy_Which reminds me
22:31.59Wormy_I wanted to ask Technobliterator if I could pitch the Mantisorac Swarm against the Loron hordes
22:33.19Thunderlord1234cool any ant like insectoid race's
22:33.44Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADCP-Vermulan_War/Year_One#One_step_forward.2C_one_step_back  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADCP-Vermulan_War/Year_One#Bed_bug_bunker http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADCP-Vermulan_War/Year_One#The_Mantisorac_invasion
22:33.52GhelaptopIn appearance? I'm not sure.
22:33.58Wormy_The Mantisorac don't look like ants, but they act like ants
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22:34.48Thunderlord1234any insectoid race's that have queens
22:34.59Wormy_Do you think the Mantisorac's numbers could slow the Loron horde?
22:35.01Ghelaptophttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Formicidae has all of the creature pages classified as ants, but I don't think any of those are part of the SporeWikiverse.
22:35.50GhelaptopA lot of the wiki's insectoids are probably eusocial, i.e. having Queens etc. But I also know that many aren't.
22:36.30Thunderlord1234any xeno like race's the humanlike race's feel really strange
22:36.43Thunderlord1234for example the draconoids have human like gender's or weapons
22:37.20DrodoEmpireWell, I dunno what a "human-like weapon" is :p
22:38.15Wormy_Well, there are certainly commonalities from the practical nature of convergent eolution, biological and technological due to the constraints of similar environments.
22:38.18Thunderlord1234some race like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODrR9HAlS4
22:38.22Wormy_*evolution
22:38.27GhelaptopMost fiction is written about species that are human-like in terms of behaviour and basic body plan, since those are most relatable for human readers.
22:38.28Wormy_*biological or cultural
22:38.30Thunderlord1234with alien like weapons culture and evolution and classification
22:38.40MonetTo say two genders - male and female - being human-like is a bit narrow
22:38.41DrodoEmpireA weapon is just some object or tool made to inflict harm. And if there is one thing humans are good at its causing harm. We've made or thought about just about every weapon in the book
22:39.08Wormy_However, a good numbers of us like to dip into the alien sometimes :D
22:39.55DrodoEmpireIf you mean "human-like" as in what weapons are currently common IRL, then the Draconis are far from that
22:40.18DrodoEmpireOf any fictions the French and Drodo use perhaps the most "human-like" weapons in that regard
22:40.36Thunderlord1234just saying a race that doesn't seem simillar to humans is pretty cool
22:40.47DrodoEmpireAnd there is lots of those
22:41.43TechnobliteratorWormy_, sounds good
22:41.53TechnobliteratorCharles shoulddo the next section, though
22:42.00Thunderlord1234can i get some examples
22:42.55DrodoEmpireErm, just look around
22:43.10DrodoEmpireYour standards as to what's "non-human" seem to be pretty subjective anyhow
22:43.19GhelawayWormy's Mantisorac have already been mentioned: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Mantisorac_Swarm
22:44.00Wormy_I was going to remake them, but Spore is broken now.
22:44.14GhelawayYou can probably look though http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Species and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Borealis_Galaxy/Species (and maybe some other galaxy species lists if they're as complete) and see if there's something you like the look of there too.
22:44.17Thunderlord1234these guy's seem biolike but they do have a species that has gender's which is normal http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Waptoria_Alliance_of_Species
22:44.32Thunderlord1234there both xeno and humanoid
22:47.01Wormy_You might be interested in my Cephalodians http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Cephalodian
22:47.37MonetHavign genders doesn't make something 'humanoid;
22:48.01Monetmany insect colonies have a queen but still have strictly male and female species
22:48.35MonetWorker bees are usually male and scout bees are usually female.
22:49.07DrodoEmpire^
22:49.18Thunderlord1234any eldrich species
22:49.23Thunderlord1234lovecraftian?
22:49.54MonetThere's more to Lovecraft than Cthulhu...
22:50.43Thunderlord1234I Already know i'm just asking
22:50.47Wormy_I think there is a species of fungus which has countless genders.
22:51.52MonetSorry just...The perception of "Lovecraft" as Cthulhu and Innsmouth triggers me
22:52.32Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Prologue#The_Kingdom_of_Ice ok, we had lots of fun writing this
22:52.34Technobliteratorcheck it out, yo
22:52.38Thunderlord1234well it's just that Cthulu and innsoth is most popular
22:52.53Wormy_28,000 hgenders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophyllum_commune
22:53.02Wormy_WTF it can cause disease in people
22:53.09Wormy_That doesn't help my Mycophobia
22:53.28MonetWeakening the immune system perhaps?
22:54.13Wormy_The weird shapes fungi can take on, the unexpected places they can grow, like on your carpet, and indeed the image of fungi taking over one's flesh is highly triggering.
22:54.24MonetThunderlord1234: yeah they're the most well-known but that's made big-C lose his teeth
22:55.05MonetThe end of Call of Cthulhu (was it) has him rise out of the oceon, a ship ram against his head that gets obliterated upon contect. And he just returns to the seabed.
22:55.32MonetBut I'm detouring
22:55.37Thunderlord1234Monet did you respond to my Transmission
22:55.55MonetMale/female is pretty universal on Earth fauna.
22:56.49MonetI'm curious Thunderlord, what languages do you speak?
22:57.22Thunderlord1234none but english
22:57.45MonetRight, its not shameful though.
22:58.13Thunderlord1234how do you add images to fiction page
23:02.20Thunderlord1234anyway
23:03.04Wormy_this would make me set a house on fire http://i.imgur.com/Q44gEYM.jpg
23:04.27DrodoEmpireWormy_: Good lord
23:04.36DrodoEmpireI don't blame you. >.<
23:05.03CyrannianTook me a while to realise what that was ew
23:06.44dromHachiman: "You intensely search the human's torso for curves and boobs. But all you find is disappointment; this human is a guy."
23:09.54Thunderlord1234Could i Possibly share with the one who own's the waptoria
23:10.10Thunderlord1234i mean he was my friend on spore for a long time and we shared fiction's
23:10.44GhelawayThunderlord1234: You'd have to ask Ecoraptor about that, not us.
23:11.08Thunderlord1234i'm just saying
23:11.11GhelawayWe don't have a policy against users sharing fictions, if that's what you're asking.
23:11.59Thunderlord1234ok i hope he respond's i haven't had a reponse from some people since
23:14.56TechnobliteratorWell no, because me and Oluap share about three empires and I think he shares some with Cyrannian and Hachi too
23:15.21Thunderlord1234are these guys free like the grox and humanity http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Dronox
23:15.29CyrannianYup
23:17.13Thunderlord1234i like The Name Olaup it sounds funny
23:18.20Thunderlord1234please don't block me i didn't mean it in a harmfull way.
23:18.50Wormy_blocks Thunderlord1234
23:19.01Wormy_Only joking
23:20.47MonetThunderlord: hough bear in mind Andromeda has an established canon on the Grox.
23:21.11Thunderlord1234Na Bye Bye Grox
23:21.18Thunderlord1234Borealis Grox Favorite :D
23:23.16Thunderlord1234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QoTy9DVr-A
23:23.39Wormy_Moon used to spin 'on different axis' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35883576
23:24.31MonetThunderlord1234: Current Andromeda timeline has the Grox absent form uch of modern history, returning during the Andromeda war only to be repelled by native forces
23:24.58Thunderlord1234So should i be at war with the andromeda grox?
23:25.38MonetWell they're gone as of 2787
23:25.39Wormy_"Pubs will be able to stay open an extra two hours on both days until 01:00."  > laughs, pubs in my region happily stay open till the early hours http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35881689
23:26.13Thunderlord1234Wow /: i just realized the marinox weren't orginally Ecoraptor's
23:29.55Thunderlord1234Well it doesn't matter i think about preparing the Confederation for there first war
23:30.30DrodoEmpireDon't be too eager to jump into war
23:30.52Thunderlord1234why?
23:32.10DrodoEmpireBecause wars are expensive and can't be done 24/7, also other countries don't like violent states
23:32.12Thunderlord1234well i'm not really gonna go into war i just think about it because i currently have no fiction event's going on in my fiction
23:32.20Wormy_SEMonet:  Have you ever buiult a rover in Space Engineers?
23:32.28Wormy_SEI'm having trouble
23:32.33DrodoEmpireThough also out-of-universe wars are boring without backstory :p
23:33.07dromWormy_SE Monet: https://baystation12.net/forums/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj5BZwR7.png&hash=b4ea8281ca08679d3f18a7d63ae2b8c0
23:33.10dromeh
23:33.23Thunderlord1234that's why i'm preparing :p
23:33.35Wormy_SENot working
23:33.56Wormy_SEdrom,Monet:  Do wheeled vehicles need suspension?
23:34.11dromWormy_SE Monet: http://i.imgur.com/j5BZwR7.png
23:34.27dromWormy_SE: No idea, never touched planets in SE
23:34.34Wormy_SEI see
23:34.50Wormy_SEI landed on a Tundra and Taiga planet
23:34.54dromBut I guess that is to make your ride less bumpy
23:35.27Thunderlord1234can we rp
23:36.02Wormy_SEBuilt a base with gatling guns to keep off the cyberhounds, and then I built a basic rover using mass blocks, wheels, a cockpit, thruster, battery and reactor, but while I can turn the vehicle, the vehicle doesn't push forward
23:36.19Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic/Government/Senate - Started working on this, take a look
23:39.08Thunderlord1234hmm
23:39.56MonetWormy_SE: Haven't tried building rovers
23:40.04dromWormy_SE Monet: Lotsa of conspiracy right here http://i.imgur.com/rrPb9CB.png
23:40.38Thunderlord1234Hey Cyrannian Mind if the Confederate's could ally the Republic of you'res
23:40.40Wormy_SEget tinfoiled
23:41.06CyrannianNo problemo
23:42.29Thunderlord1234wow that's alot of allies if a Single Empire mostly tried to attack the republic or the pan there mostly likely dead.
23:43.21MonetThe wonder ful world of superpower status
23:43.57Thunderlord1234I Feel bad for the opposer's
23:45.22TechnobliteratorCyrannian, nice work so far
23:46.00TechnobliteratorI think fictional governments are fun to write about, but I don't have any democratic fictions other than one that was destroyed :p
23:46.35Thunderlord1234I Agree with, Techno
23:47.53CyrannianI was inspired by Dino to make a senate with many different individual senators that can appear and reappear in future stories and perhaps become President at some point
23:49.55MonetI forgot how bug-eyed Elijah Wood is.
23:50.15MonetHis eyes are...slightly unsettling.
23:51.39Cyrannianhttp://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/01/elijah.jpg - I agree
23:52.22Thunderlord1234Wow i can't believe i almost made the galactic empire of Cyrannus my Best Allies on my fiction i was editing
23:52.22Thunderlord1234LOL
23:52.40MonetI think I found Frodo slightly unsettling to look at in films 2 and 3.
23:53.02MonetThough at the time I assumed it was because he was slowly being corrupted by the wing.
23:53.06Monetring*
23:53.46CyrannianI never really warmed to Frodo compared with the other Hobbits
23:54.42MonetSamwise was my favourite.
23:55.26CyrannianMartin Freeman's Bilbo is my favourite, but I like Sam too
23:57.04Thunderlord1234did ya edit pan or cyrannia?
23:57.44DrodoEmpireWhy does Alex Jones sound like he smokes fifteen packs a day? There's a real question.
23:58.32DrodoEmpire(In addition why is he batshit crazy)
23:59.48MonetMaybe he smoked a lot of weed in his youth?
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