IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160306

00:02.11dromMe thinks it was the purpose
00:05.55MonetDidn't the Tea Party Snake meme emerge before XCOM 2?
00:09.23HachimanIt did
00:11.54DrodoEmpiretest
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00:14.16Technobliteratorrandum
00:15.15The_RandomnessHello
00:20.05ZF101Hey Techno, DR's milky way front is managed by you and Wormy right?
00:21.37TechnobliteratorYup
00:24.22ZF101alright, so I was hopeing to get involved. So I'd talk to both of you right?
00:36.28HalopediamanDid I hear "milky way front"?
00:37.18DrodoEmpireYou read it sure
00:38.41ZF101Loron, Pizza ships, the whole deal.
00:39.58The_RandomnessFTL pizza delivery? SeemsGood
00:40.32DrodoEmpireCan't imagine shipping and handling costs though
00:42.25TechnobliteratorZF101, you don't need our permission to get involved in that one :o
00:42.39TechnobliteratorIt's only the Borealis front that you do, really
00:42.39ZF101Alright, just making sure.
00:46.26TechnobliteratorOdelSpeedster added a pretty impressive Loron section to Da Reckoning
00:50.04DrodoEmpireOh?
00:57.46ZF_AwayAlright, so I'll write up a section of my own, then we can weave it into the main story.
00:58.07TechnobliteratorYeah, sure. No pressure to weave it into anything, however
00:58.25TechnobliteratorIt can be inserted anywhere that doesn't contradict with what's going on elsewhere
00:58.35ZF_AwayI gotta get more involved in the main universe anyway. This will be a good chance.
00:59.05ZF_AwayAnywho, toddles. I'm off to play some Battlefront.
00:59.41Technobliteratorhave fun :o
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01:08.14Wormy_Hello0
01:08.42Wormy_nu
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01:15.32Wormy_Monet:  Got 19 right
01:15.34Wormy_http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/03/02/80s-90s-tv-quiz/
01:18.29MonetWormy_: 29/31
01:21.35MonetA number of those were fond memories
01:21.44Wormy_Mr Flobby!
01:22.40Wormy_Monet:  Do you remember a CBBC series about kids who found a red alien pod that could become invisible and travel to other worldas?
01:23.08Wormy_That was a 90's show that is very distinctive in my memory
01:23.13MonetVaguely
01:23.43MonetThough I have stronger memories of the Demon Headmaster.
01:23.57Wormy_Aquila, it was cooled
01:24.01Wormy_*called
01:24.45Wormy_I watched Demon Headmaster, but likely that was a re-showing in the 2000s
01:24.56Wormy_Same with the Queens Nose
01:25.42MonetI rememebr that one
01:25.59MonetActually I don't think I saw Aquila itself.
01:26.28MonetThere was another show I vaguely recall fro mAustrailia about an undersea base.
01:27.07Wormy_The last live action CBBC shows I watched was the one about the living Dinosaur; Showbox Zoo; and a show based in a post-apocalypytic world
01:27.26Wormy_Was that show a bit like the Blairwitch Project but for kids?
01:28.02Wormy_With some teenagers finding/escaping a UFO conspiracy in the Australian outback?
01:29.29Wormy_ah hah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy_(TV_series)
01:31.01MonetI think I rememebr this show, I rememebr a conspiracy in one season
01:31.20MonetOne of the mai ncast was this woman who couldn't speak but lived in water.
01:31.40MonetIt was a bit like Deep Space Nine, only underwater.
01:32.43Wormy_Sounds awesome
01:33.57Wormy_I have fond memories of Chucklevision
01:34.11Wormy_Some of them got quite surreal
01:34.39MonetDo you remember a show called Bodger and Badger?
01:37.03Wormy_Oh I *loved* Bodger and Badger
01:37.10Wormy_mash potato
01:38.01Wormy_It saddens me that my cousin who's still in the age to wath CBBC doesn't know of most of these shows except Tracy Beaker
01:38.44Wormy_But a lot of these 90's shows were still rerun in the early and mid 2000s
01:39.43MonetIndeed.
01:41.52Wormy_Watching Jeopardy 4 minutes in...  The schoolkids use big cameras to record their video logs.  Nowaways it would be mobiles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obADbdEDjXE
01:48.27DrodoEmpireI wonder
01:48.37DrodoEmpireWhat would be the equivalent of the smartphone in the fictionverse?
01:48.44DrodoEmpireWould there even be a smartphone?
01:49.45Wormy_I can't conceive of it
01:49.58DrodoEmpireHm.
01:50.09Wormy_We could have pervasive computing and implants in our life time
01:50.18DrodoEmpireI sorta imagine the "smartphone" might come in the shape of a neural implant or something
01:50.33DrodoEmpireTrue
01:50.53DrodoEmpireNeural implants are already being used in a medical capacity
01:50.55Wormy_In nearly 1000 years?  If I got transported there, I'd be a confused ape in a very strange acid trip
01:51.04DrodoEmpireQuite possibly, yeah
01:51.20MonetI'd agree with Wormy.
01:51.41MonetIts hard to conceive what the 2800s could be like.
01:52.06DrodoEmpireTrue
01:55.07Wormy_It's entirely anecdotal but...  It was said that the first native Americans of Central and South America did not see the European ships until they laned.  The structure was so alien they percieved the sails as clouds, building the unknown into their existing cultural beliefs.
01:56.13DrodoEmpireThat's a believable idea
01:56.35DrodoEmpireNo native american culture had a very advanced shipbuilding tradition
01:57.05Wormy_If/when aliens visit us, there is not only a problem of communication, but a problem of perception from both parties.  They might have evolved in very different ecological conditions, would they find the bacteria of Oboma's gut more interesting?  Or would they try to communicate with iour cities as wholes, if they evolved from a world of networks
01:57.22DrodoEmpireHmm, possibly
01:57.24DrodoEmpireYeah...
01:57.51DrodoEmpireDifferent cultures *on Earth* developed very different societal ideas and ideas of statehood
01:57.56Wormy_Indeed
01:58.01DrodoEmpireWhich in turn effected greatly the interactions of different groups
01:58.29DrodoEmpireIf the differences among mere humans are that stark, what, then, will the difference between *species* be?
01:59.15DrodoEmpireI wonder how warlike humans are in relation to any RL alien civilizations/alien equivalents to civilization
01:59.28DrodoEmpireWould aliens even have a concept of armed conflict?
01:59.41DrodoEmpireCould they've long lost the art of war after millenia of peace?
01:59.53Wormy_Sometimes I think about the same for artificial intelligence.  If one spontaneously emerged on the internet, surely it would live in a radically different world to our's.  Therefore neither us nor it would be a threat, because both are dependant on each other.
02:00.21DrodoEmpireOkay, interesting
02:00.38Wormy_I've wondered about the same question.  Maybe we are the warlike ones!
02:01.11Wormy_That's a bit daming though
02:01.17Wormy_*damning
02:01.29Monetmaybe, but a species that exists without conflict might be a bit dull
02:01.37MonetAlways agreeing with each other.
02:01.42DrodoEmpireDull, sure
02:02.00DrodoEmpireThat's why we need to, er, "civilize" them
02:02.13DrodoEmpireWormy_: Perhaps it is damning. War is a terrible thing after all
02:02.27DrodoEmpireBut at the same time much of human history and human advancement has come about through war
02:02.59Wormy_Sadly
02:03.06DrodoEmpireSocial upheaval, sometimes, perhaps oftentimes, for a positive result came about through war
02:03.30DrodoEmpireWhere would the west be without the French revolution, and the Napoleonic Wars?
02:04.05Wormy_Then again, the information revolution didn't require bloodshed, the future may allow for less and less war to come.
02:04.20DrodoEmpireThese wars killed literal millions, but it also helped begin the transition to democratic, fair states
02:04.50DrodoEmpireTHe ideas of rights, the citizen, and democracy were implanted in the public consciousness
02:04.52DrodoEmpireAnyway
02:04.59DrodoEmpireNo, it didn't
02:05.03Wormy_That being said, the French Revolution also saw many academics killed.  The British Enlightenment was a lot more peaceful.
02:05.27DrodoEmpireIt did see a lot of learned people die
02:05.42DrodoEmpireIt saw many people die in general, as it was a far more sudden transition to democracy
02:06.26DrodoEmpireStill, my point stands
02:06.41DrodoEmpireI can only see warless species stagnating honestly
02:07.01DrodoEmpireOr perhaps not
02:07.09DrodoEmpireEither way I see them losing badly to us violent humans
02:07.12DrodoEmpire:p
02:07.14Wormy_That would be prophetic however, inducting history into the present and future.
02:08.17DrodoEmpireMy line of thinking?
02:08.59Wormy_You are living in a time inconceivable to the past, and so, I imagine, problems and solutions in the 29th century are inconceivable to us.  Though they may follow patterns that are familiar to our understanding.
02:10.05DrodoEmpireI'm a firm believer of there being nothing new under the sun. History has its odd way of forming patterns, across history
02:10.20Wormy_Yes, inductivism is basically trying to explain the present from past experiences.  It fails in Science because what we often find is things that counter our expectation.
02:11.05DrodoEmpireIts arrogant of us to believe our time in history or we as people are so outstandingly different that we're immune to the patterns of history, even on the broadest scale.
02:11.18Wormy_If you think about the future, we will constantly find *new* problems that we cannot solve without seeking the knowledge to do so.
02:11.47MonetIn some respects, while a lot less violent, wars still go on in Internet chatrooms
02:11.57Wormy_It would be arrogant, hyes.  But the point is, our culture *understands* those problems our ancestors didn't.
02:12.26Wormy_If that wouldn't be the case, there would be no progress.
02:12.37DrodoEmpireYour argument is that we're more conscious of the cycles of history?
02:12.43DrodoEmpireIn that case I might agree
02:12.49Wormy_Indeed
02:13.13Wormy_But we still have no better prophetic power than our ancestors did.
02:13.36DrodoEmpireOf course, and history is not something that gives one prophetic power
02:14.13DrodoEmpireIts something that can inform different trajectories in the future, or be able to understand why things are. Its not exact and its not particularly scientific even
02:14.15DrodoEmpireI'll admit
02:14.37Wormy_I don't disagree
02:15.33Wormy_But to say history repeats and nothing-else, is burying one's head in the sand (Which I know you haven't said).
02:16.05DrodoEmpireIts not set in stone, no
02:16.47Wormy_Unfortunately many academics have.  Many in the 1960's predicted we would all be starving in the 2000s.
02:17.13DrodoEmpireIts not wrong though. History tends to go in endless cycles, especially when people aren't conscious of the past and try to work towards a better future
02:17.20DrodoEmpireIts possible to break that cycle
02:17.51DrodoEmpireAnd yeah, I think they said that, but we avoided that (for now) because we *knew* there was a precident for such a famine
02:18.02DrodoEmpireAnd we worked to avoid that
02:18.06DrodoEmpireAnd for now, we have
02:18.10Wormy_Likewise, many predict that today, we will all be suffering from climate change at apocalyptic levels.  And that it is an evil of technology and capitalist society.
02:18.21DrodoEmpireThis is just me right now so I'm talking out of my ass a little but I hope I make sense regardless
02:18.40DrodoEmpireRight, and that of course is an exaggeration
02:19.02DrodoEmpireIf anything, the free market could *save* the environment. Think of the *enormous* investment opportunities in nuclear and solar power
02:19.09Wormy_Indeed
02:19.21DrodoEmpireEspecially in hot, developing countries like India or the African states
02:19.28DrodoEmpire(For solar power that is)
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02:38.36DrodoEmpireHi
02:39.32Wormy_hello
02:40.26DrodoEmpireHm.
02:40.41DrodoEmpireI don't suppose drawings are really a common way of making images on the wiki...
02:40.45The_RandomnessHello
02:41.10TechnobliteratorActually, drawings have been a way of making images on this wiki for about a decade
02:41.14DrodoEmpireThough its my only real way to make images for my things, and its the only way I'd be satisfied with them. :p
02:41.15Technobliteratorie before Spore was even released
02:41.20DrodoEmpireRight
02:41.26TechnobliteratorSo there's nothing wrong with it
02:41.36DrodoEmpireRight, so they're just not prevalent
02:41.43DrodoEmpire(In the modern day)
02:41.52TechnobliteratorThey became less prevalent because Spore was actually released
02:41.57DrodoEmpireRight
02:42.25DrodoEmpireI think I'll have to look over my sketches again and see if any are good enough to post I guess
02:42.26DrodoEmpire:p
02:45.39Wormy_I don't actually know what a Drodo looks like.  Well I imagine a bulky, furry creature with a long proboscis.
02:45.49Wormy_But that's it.
02:45.55DrodoEmpireNot quite actually
02:46.02DrodoEmpireHachi made an excellent creature, one sec...
02:46.15Wormy_Would like to see it
02:46.44DrodoEmpirehttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/aa/Drodo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140607001547 - Similar to this, though, the hair on their head would be jet black
02:46.55DrodoEmpireMale Drodo also have, as a universal trait, facial hair.
02:47.09DrodoEmpireIn general Drodo are short and rather slender, though muscular
02:49.05Wormy_Slender + muscular = athletic gym build in my mind
02:49.19DrodoEmpireSimilar yes
02:50.20DrodoEmpireDrodo are also built for agility as opposed to raw strength. An able-bodied Drodo, particularly when under the effects of an adrenline rush can achieve feats of agility similar to human freerunners of parkourists.
02:50.43DrodoEmpireEspecially if they've had a bit of practice, they can do these feats better
03:15.58DrodoEmpiretest
03:31.27DrodoEmpiretest
03:35.13DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsC00znweIg - The reasons as to why infantry exist in the SWverse are very, very similar
03:35.23DrodoEmpireOr why they should, that is
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03:39.58DrodoEmpireHi
03:40.02Charles_MurrayHey
03:44.02Monethi
04:14.38Wormy_Bye
04:18.10DrodoEmpire3:
05:16.22The_RandomnessThe year is 2129; humans can only communicate through increasingly garbled copy-pasta. A man approaches and says "ire: ███ 10 stroke dick ff ☑ EKT ☾ ☆ ¸. ?" In confusion, I reply "AT ASCII ຈل͜ل͜ຈຈ༽༽ノノ HA ʙᴏʟᴀ ヽ༼ಢ_ ♌ ❛ั∗)◞ TUCK F (◡‿◡✿)". This is the world we have wrought.
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09:16.34JepardiHi
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09:46.10dromSleeprios Charles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/0tgdLHw.png
11:18.20dromSo I'm told by my teacher to re-organize my 1770+ word essay
11:18.22dromFuck me
11:19.00Liquid_InkBelt up, kiddo
11:19.15Liquid_InkWe all have to reorganise multi-thousand word essays
11:19.52Liquid_InkOkay, that came out very harsh, but I intended it to be jovial. Sorry about that.
11:20.42dromNo. It is fine.
11:21.02dromThe problem is I submitted the essay two weeks ago, and I got the response today.
11:21.25dromI've already forgotten everything about the essay as I moved on to work on other essays
11:21.28Liquid_InkAh, I see.
11:22.01dromUsually this is no big deal on essay lesser than two pages or <1500 words.
11:22.12dromBut this one stretches more than 3 pages.
11:29.02dromShit like this is the reason why I hate paperwork
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11:29.53HachimanHi
11:29.59GhelaeHello.
11:30.30dromCall me a pussy or kid. But you just don't know how much I depise paperwork.
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12:14.36dromHello
12:14.53Wormy_hi
12:19.55GhelaeHello.
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12:29.09HachimanHi Imp
12:29.14HachimanHi Wormy
12:29.54Wormy_Hello
12:39.45dromScrew it, I'm going the cheap way: Create a brief bullet list concluding several points in the essay.
12:42.08dromWormy_: I like this thread http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/tutorial-making-of-the-rearm-vaygr-cruiser/670292
12:56.01ImperiosHi Hachi
12:56.10ImperiosKick Sleepriod plz
12:56.14ImperiosSleeprios even
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13:05.43dromWormy_: Seen? http://webm.host/9ea66/vid.webm
13:06.17Wormy_I haven't, very cute
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13:16.43ImperiosThx
13:26.01dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/0tgdLHw.png
13:29.40Wormy_lol
13:31.05Wormy_There was a great scene in Star TRek TOS with Scotty and Chekov arguing which was stronger, whiskey or vodka.
13:34.01Wormy_Why the hell am I being advertised a Live-Cell Analysis incubator
13:34.05Wormy_on youtube
13:34.21Wormy_I'm not much of a biologist.
13:35.03Wormy_It's probably because I was following a biomolecular visualisation tutorial and searched for it.
13:37.15GhelaeThat or the algorithms are hinting you should try a career change.
13:39.01Wormy_If I do go down the scientific visualisation route, I suppose it's a possibility
13:40.29dromWormy_: Or a 99 proof duckweed brew
13:41.57Wormy_There is that story about fermented duckweed
13:42.04dromduckweed smells terrible when fermented or rotten
13:42.52dromA brew with a smell that kills faster than the breath of Frenchmen who ate garlic recently
13:47.07Wormy_I've smelt it, used to live on a canal boat.
13:47.22Wormy_It can clog the engine
13:49.25dromI can relate. Back when I had to follow with my parents out at golfing. There was a lake those surface was thick of duckweed.
13:49.46ImperiosGhelae Wormy_: What would be the implications of a planet's core expanding size?
13:49.48Imperiosin size evne
13:49.51Wormy_drom:  One time I saw this Indian family on a tourist canal boat.  There was a kid who was asked to get tea.  He dipped the kettle straight in the canal water.
13:50.27dromHow did the family react?
13:50.57GhelaeImperios: Do you just mean the volume of the core increases without the mass also increasing, or does the mass increase too? If the latter, does the increase in mass come from the rest of the planet, or is it just appearing from nowhere?
13:50.58Wormy_Imperios: Have you found that crank theory that planetary cores are miniature stars and produce new elements?
13:51.03Wormy_Don't think they saw
13:51.24ImperiosGhelae: The latter, and the former
13:51.36ImperiosCore expanded, subsumed other layers partially
13:51.49dromWormy_: Was this in England or elsewhere?
13:51.54Wormy_England
13:52.33dromSo, those boats? http://www.riversidemodels.co.uk/images/BOAT%20ALV56.jpg
13:53.14Wormy_Yes, a narrowboat, but the half the size (our canal boat).  Theirs seemed to be a tourist boat so full length
13:53.16GhelaeSo, the volume of the core increases while the volume of the mantle decreases. Wormy might be better able to guess what would happen there than I can.
13:54.17dromI see.
13:54.28dromWormy_: I would have prefered living on a house boat though hur
13:54.52GhelaeI suppose what it would really mean is that the rock in the mantle layer becomes a lot hotter and less viscous.
13:55.30dromWormy_: Specially these http://cdn2.tinyhouseliving.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/20060519-amsterdam-green_houseboats_in_one_of_the_canals.jpg
13:56.30GhelaeFluid thermodynamics isn't my kind of thing, but I assume that would also increase pressure. So you'd suddenly get a lot more tectonic activity, especially of the lava-bursting-out-of-the-ground variety.
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13:56.44Wormy_Assuming no inside star is involved, an increase in volume can happen in nature.  The Outer Core can slowly solidify over time.  The obvious effects would be that the core's spinning would slow down or cease.  I think deep mantle effects like plumes would also slow down
13:58.01GhelaeSo what I said is if the outer core expands; what Wormy's said is if the inner core expands.
13:58.51Wormy_Yes, assuming the outer core expands, it would have to become hotter.  Perhaps even the inner core would begin to melt too
13:59.26Wormy_My mother is demanding vege bacon sarnies, so I better go and make them
13:59.29GhelaeSo then we end up with the oppposite of you said: the core's spinning speeds up, as do mantle plumes.
14:03.42GhelaeImperios: So it seems lots of new volcanic eruptions would be the most immediately visible effect.
14:04.06dromGoddamnit. Mad Max: Fury Road isn't available on Netflix.
14:06.08dromOh yay! All of my old Disney Channel favorites are available on Netflix!
14:06.26GhelaeThe magnetosphere would also become a little stronger if the conductive fluids in the core can travel faster.
14:09.52dromImperios: In one of the Master of Oinions reboot trailers. There was a feline species.
14:12.34Imperiosdrom: Weren't there aklways
14:12.39ImperiosGhelae: Right that works
14:13.54dromImperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKP4niGewxo
14:17.41Imperiosdrom: All praise Queen Kitten Cleavage
14:17.58dromImperios: Pretty much lol http://masteroforion.gamepedia.com/Mrrshan
14:18.31Imperios"The Mrrshan as a whole value freedom from religious, creative, political, and personal oppression. They believe in living as they please, loving whoever they want, and above all being fearless in battle. The Royal Family rules over the feudal government, with an Empress ruling over all. "
14:18.35ImperiosI WILL SUE THEM FOR THIS
14:19.02dromActually, when I first saw them. I thought Radeons
14:19.11dromMy very first impression that is
14:23.46dromImperios: You could just hijack that race and chant "RODENT STRONK" every turn that go.
14:23.59ImperiosHUR
14:24.00Imperioshur
14:26.13Wormy_Imperios  If the planet has a thick cold crust as well, I imagine as the mantle heats up and becomes more viscous, volatiles will move through it quicker becoming a gas at an decrease in depth, resulting in deep volcanic pipes from the upper mantle and the crust that release diamonds by ejecting them to the surface
14:26.35ImperiosOoh that could be interesting
14:26.46Wormy_This process used to happen on the Earth, but it has cooled down too much for that to happen I think.
14:32.16dromNETFLIX HAS THE IRON GIANT
14:32.20dromYEEEEEEESSSSSS
14:39.52Wormy_ending is too sad
14:40.35Wormy_Iron Giant the book is much more metal
14:40.51Wormy_It has a giant star-moth thing that comes to eat the Earth
14:41.44Wormy_All of Earth's militaries fire on the creature, but it doesn't take notice.  However the Iron Giant challenges it to a game and wins, saving the world
14:42.37HachimanI find it hilarious that the Iron Giant was voiced by Vin Diesel
14:42.51Wormy_woa, lol
14:43.58ImperiosHachiman: I am Iron Giant
14:44.23HachimanThey were gonna get Peter Cullen, the guy who voices Optimus Prime, to voice the Iron Giant but he was unavailable
14:45.32Wormy_bbl
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15:09.38Imperioschopsticks
15:10.09ImperiosWhy do Brits and Americans even call chopsticks *chop*sticks
15:10.15ImperiosYou cannot chop anything with them
15:10.33XhoWhy do you call gulags gulags
15:11.17ImperiosIt is an abbreviation, originally referring to the organisation that ran the gulagzsx
15:11.19Imperios*gulags
15:11.38ImperiosGeneralnoye Upravlenie LAGerey
15:12.04Xhowas outsmarted
15:12.53ImperiosGeneral Administration [of concentration] CAMps
15:12.55ImperiosGACAM
15:13.07HachimanProbably because you eat chop suey with chopsticks
15:13.57HachimanThey are sticks used for eating chop suey and other Chinese cuisine
15:14.00XhoWAKE UP                   GRAB A BRUSH AND PUT A LITTLE MAKE UP
15:14.30HachimanWHY'D YOU LEAVE THE KEYS UP ON THE TABLE
15:14.46XhoYOU WANTED TO
15:15.00XhoI'm surprised that hasn't been meme'd
15:15.06HachimanOh it has
15:15.08ImperiosBut why is Chop suey called chop suey hur
15:15.12Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chop_chop_(phrase) Oh wait found it
15:15.13OluapPlayermemes belong in the trash
15:15.26Imperios>The term may have its origins in the South China Sea, as a Pidgin English version of the Chinese term k'wai-k'wai
15:15.34Imperios>K'wai
15:15.38ImperiosCutesticks
15:22.18dromHachiman: So the Iron Giant movie is actually a table-top RP campagin made a reality.
15:22.27Hachimanwat
15:22.52dromVin Diesel voiced the Iron Giant, right?
15:24.25Xhosuperman
15:27.38HachimanHe did
15:27.48dromGhelae: http://imgur.com/gallery/mb2BL
15:27.49HachimanDunno what Vin Diesel has to do with tabletop RPG
15:28.02dromD&D is tabletop RPG
15:28.16dromVin Diesel does do D&D
15:28.26HachimanHuh
15:29.49dromHachiman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Diesel#cite_note-38
15:30.13drom"Diesel has played Dungeons & Dragons for over 20 years,[38] and wrote the foreword for the commemorative book 30 Years of Adventure: A Celebration of Dungeons & Dragons. In the 30th anniversary issue of Dragon magazine, it was revealed that Diesel had a fake tattoo of his character's name, Melkor, on his stomach while filming xXx."
15:30.31HachimanOh wow
15:31.20dromiirc he even tweeted a cake from one of his birthday celebrations. It resembled the D&D manuals stacked on each other.
15:32.00dromOr was it Facebook?
15:32.59dromYes. It was on Facebook, last year. https://www.facebook.com/VinDiesel/photos/a.101465923312.101581.89562268312/10153582925078313/
15:33.28HachimanOh that's awesome
15:33.35Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12814139_660993934039641_8738472011363493106_n.jpg?oh=279ad7781b02fa1df227c6b859008553&oe=5754E31A Tom Hiddleston is certainly a national treasure
15:34.06dromGhelae: "You dense motherfucker" is a real original insult on neutron stars and black holes.
15:36.08Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Levathain HELP PLS
15:36.21XhoThat is a real 'GOD LEFT ME UNFINISHED' looking creature
15:36.56HachimanOh God
15:37.20dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/IBaqjOF.mp4
15:37.35XhoJohn Travolta tho
15:37.42dromThat infobox width
15:37.44dromChrist
15:37.45XhoHe looks like a poorly stuffed cushion nowadays
15:39.13dromXho's personal vehicle: http://i.imgur.com/GrK7fzP.webm
15:39.13OluapPlayer>100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons
15:39.15OluapPlayerfatty
15:39.26dromMore like a dense motherfucker amrite
15:40.19TechnobliteratorImperios, do you think you'll be able to finish the Andromeda thing now?
15:40.24TechnobliteratorOr rather, today?
15:40.28ImperiosSure thing
15:40.37OluapPlayeryick
15:40.44Technobliteratorcool
15:40.44OluapPlayerI was gonna ask if we could rp fantasy stuff
15:40.49TechnobliteratorWas wondering if you'd sorted that out
15:41.02OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: moov borealis rear
15:41.10Technobliteratorneva
15:41.11Technobliteratorfine den
15:41.19XhoDrom: looks fun
15:41.25TechnobliteratorI need to check Zilla's bit first
15:42.31dromXho: Give your weak BMW more neighs, reinforced structure and a huge-ass plow and there you've got a killer BMW.
15:42.49XhoThe Anschlussmoblie
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15:46.55XhoHm what to do
15:47.36XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12742599_10154535300630476_3289193133826847350_n.png?oh=8e0a21e803a4998d522079cca4839815&oe=574C7B69 SporeWiki in a nutshell
15:47.57OluapPlayerBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEARS
15:48.11OluapPlayerI would suggest you do things but you just shoot the ideas down every time
15:48.31Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12804809_10156597735890603_6827915220002987910_n.jpg?oh=31ffaf894745a9c5e16c4da67d4955af&oe=575ABE41 I'm done
15:48.34XhoThat is true
15:48.49Xho99% of the time I ask the question but I don't actually feel like doing anything
15:49.57OluapPlayerterrible person
15:55.07XhoI did make a spaceship yesterday
15:55.18XhoThough there was no real intention as to it belongs to
15:55.22Xhoas to who
15:55.24ImperiosI might have gym or boxing tomorrow
15:55.26Imperiostoday even
15:55.44ImperiosProvided I do not, I can RP
15:56.05TechnobliteratorXho, if you're bored, you can add a Mad'Hatta section to the Borealis front?
15:56.12XhoI would
15:56.16XhoBut I have no ideas
15:56.50Technobliteratorhe could just blow up a spaceship or something
15:57.45Xho10/10 such inspiration
15:57.53XhoI'm not gonna do anything without a firm idea
15:58.02Technobliteratorbest inspiration
15:58.04Technobliteratorfair enough
16:22.22dromMonet Xho Imperios: What a world to be alive in: http://i.imgur.com/2dAxDQm.gif
16:25.25dromCame to think of it. Would every member of modern civilizations take a picture of their meal countless times before eating it up?
16:26.17MonetNo.
16:26.20MonetNot everyoen does it
16:27.23drom"Year is 2800, everyday, we take holovideoes of us eating our meals and post it to the universal social media."
16:32.49dromComplete with Agent Nu posting hourly updates of his manslaughtering adventures
16:33.18Ghelae"Universal social media". Some ideas of future-speak you can just tell are going to be dated long before that future ever arrives.
16:33.37Ghelae"We access the universal social media using our portable digital telegraphy contraptions."
16:37.28GhelaeIt wouldn't surprise me if posting photos of meals online dies out within a couple of decades as the next generation grows up thinking "that's the kind of thing our parents did". Not that it's the majority of people who do it nowadays anyway.
16:37.43GhelaeBut then maybe it'll come back some time later as a retro fashion.
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16:40.02The_RandomnessHello
16:40.14GhelaeHello.
16:45.28ImperiosMonet Xho Charles_Murray Technobliterator drom: Can we continue Reckoning now?
16:45.53Technobliteratorsure
16:46.11Charles_MurrayI just woke up, so I'm still half asleep, but I'm up for it xD
16:46.40Charles_MurrayLet's do it ^.^
16:46.49dromSure
16:48.16MonetCool
16:49.31Imperiosdouses Charles_Murray in Armenian coffe
16:49.33Imperioscoffee
16:49.47Charles_MurrayI'm awake now
16:50.12ImperiosNow to wake up Xho
16:50.30Xhokjhgf
16:51.26Imperiospours more Armenian coffee into Xho's mouth
16:51.52XhoWAKE UP              GRAB A BRUSH AND PUT A LITTLE MAKE UP
16:51.56XhoFits because SOAD are Armenian
16:53.27ImperiosGOD PROTECT HAYASTAN
17:02.23dromhttp://i.imgur.com/zem9DEX.jpg
17:15.34Technobliteratordamnit Imp
17:19.57HachimanImperios: So apparently in the Warhammer 40,000 books, Kharn is actually quite a reasonable guy when he is not fighting and tearing people apart
17:20.12HachimanSo the stuff about him being a "nice guy" is not unfounded
17:21.04dromXho: http://fox-info.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/20141227_133106_foxinfonet.jpg
17:21.27Xhofluf
17:27.56ImperiosTechnobliterator: Sorry, I told father he sounded angry and he threw a fit
17:28.09Technobliteratorah
17:28.28XhoImperios was then struck blind for his ignorance
17:28.29Technobliteratorsorry to hear
17:28.49ImperiosHe's the person I inherited my extreme instability from hur
17:29.01ImperiosTwo unstable people -> fun
17:32.12dromImperios: Even worse if you throw the wife into the fray
17:32.21dromThree unstable people -> EVEN MORE !!FUN!!
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17:33.13XhoWell that was fun
17:33.25dromGhelae: Turns out that the novellea series "The Expanse" is also available as a series
17:33.40dromAlthough they cancelled it midway through the first season
17:35.19dromUh. They are airing a second season at 2017?
17:38.43dromSome people say that it is like "Game of Thrones, except in space"
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17:40.28dino82_hi all
17:41.15XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12802979_10208771934964691_3590118015986377437_n.jpg?oh=356e92aaaacd35d2eb6646902ec3d578&oe=574DCAAE
17:42.46Hachimandrom: The Inheritance Cycle from Christopher Paolini is considered to be Star Wars "except in a fantasy setting" and it is shit
17:43.50dromI don't like the book cover anyway hur
17:44.32dromMonet: http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/tutorial-making-of-the-rearm-vaygr-cruiser/670292
17:49.42XhoWish I could do 3D modelling
17:50.43dromUV-mapping (essential for texturing) is the bane of my existence
17:50.58XhoKicathian stuff would look great as models like that
17:51.52TechnobliteratorImperios, poke
17:52.08XhoI've always been intriuged by ZBrush but I've heard it's quite counter intuitive
17:52.59dromZBrush is a sculpting software anyway.
17:53.17XhoYeah that's what interested me
17:53.33XhoWho knows, I might try it out
17:53.41XhoIt's a lot to fork out though
17:53.43dromWhich is mostly useless for non-organic modelling anyway.
17:53.59dromI pirated it and tested it, it was decent. I've to say.
17:54.28dromAlthough since most modelling software does already have sculpting tools already. I don't find any need of ZBrush
17:54.41XhoYeah I thought it would be interesting for more organic stuff
17:56.14dromVideo game and film industry does do real clay modelling anyway. They just digitalize it later.
17:56.48dromLike how they did for Titanfall because they couldn't afford proper modelling tools, they say.
17:59.22dromXho: If you really want to do modelling, I'd suggest applying for a course teaching how to do modelling and how to use Blender/Maya/Max/ZBrush/whatever your prime software tool.
17:59.38XhoHm might be worth it
17:59.53dromOnce you get the hook, you'll be able to teach yourself more at your own.
18:00.14dromit takes time but is really worth it
18:01.12dromLike how I started programming: I had zero idea how and why. How stuff and how the code worked. But once I got the hook, I engaged myself more at self-learning and gathered more knowledge than anyone else at the end of the course.
18:02.11Xhohttp://orig02.deviantart.net/ba9c/f/2015/027/d/5/sinner___wrath__zbrush__by_shocksplash-d8fokuc.jpg That's pretty fucking awesome I must say
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18:04.19dromXho: Indeed
18:04.21XhoIt looks like something to definitely get into as a good hobby
18:04.58dromIt can be a bit frustrating however.
18:05.36dromFor example, you add a feature, only to then regret it long time afterwards
18:05.53XhoMight be worth saving multiple versions then
18:05.57dromSometimes you've to suck it in and stick to it
18:05.59dromYeah
18:06.25dromSpecially when you 'free-from as you go' technique
18:06.53dromI'm a big user of it
18:07.58dromAfter a series of regrets and biting knuckles. I've learned to actually do sketches and try to stick to them as possible. Save several copies before doing major operations
18:10.34dromI can provide my experience as an example: http://i.imgur.com/IF2ABN0.png
18:10.36XhoSo would you say sketches are important
18:10.42Xhodear god
18:12.09ImperiosXho: You can return now BTW
18:12.11ImperiosWe're doing stuff
18:12.12dromI don't often do sketches, but it helps you to minimize the regrets
18:12.31XhoImperios: I am there btw
18:12.40Imperioswait how
18:13.19dromXho: Google concept arts of the games you like. You can see how many times they've changed it before finalized it
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18:13.45Xho>spore             >GOD DAMMIT
18:14.46XhoYeah I might definitely give ZBrush a go
18:14.50dromMid-production changes are not a fun or moral thing to do. The concept stage is very important and a vital part of the industry
18:15.20XhoI guess with Spore creations you already have a good idea of what you want it to look like
18:15.25XhoSince your concept stage is more or less there
18:15.43dromYeah. Spore is mostly a collage after all
18:16.28dromSecondly, it is a good example because I've noticed how older models of one species looked back when they were created for the first time and how they look like today.
18:16.40XhoXhodocto's a good example of that
18:16.57dromglacnes at Imperios' Radeons
18:17.01dromglances even
18:17.04XhoThey're on their...
18:17.09Xho23rd variation I think
18:17.29dromkek
18:17.38Imperios23
18:17.42ImperiosThat's 2 more than 21
18:17.52XhoYOU WENT TO UNIVERSITY FOR WHAT EXACTLY
18:18.05dromThe Nomatarians are in reality the third generation of the Aemonkians. But I did remodel them like, twice.
18:18.24dromWhilst on their third revision, they are actually the sixth.
18:18.46OluapPlayerDracogonarious and Spinkers only went through 2 revisions ever since I made them
18:19.47dromNo wonder how their rayguns conjures rockets instead of energy bolts.
18:22.44dromXho: You might want to teach yourself first and see if it is actually something for you before you fly head-first in.
18:24.47XhoYeah
18:25.11dromYou can however try to accustomize yourself by creating random items and objects.
18:25.35dromBe it a large *ahem* hard dick.
18:25.43dromYou get the point?
18:26.03XhoI get something
18:38.30ImperiosXho
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18:51.18Patriot868Hello
18:52.16Patriot868I have returned
18:55.59Patriot868I am sorry for the long absence. I had some problems irl, but I'm going to try to get back into the universe again
19:05.09ImperiosXho: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Waste Wait what do you mean Game of Thrones has Australia in it
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19:16.15ImperiosXho: git bak muthafuka
19:16.44Patriot868Hi
19:35.48ImperiosHachiman: So apparently Iran has the second largest number of sex change operations per year in the world, after Thailand, and offers them to homosexuals as an alternative to punishment
19:36.27HachimanI know about that
19:36.31HachimanIt's sickening
19:37.06ImperiosSickening because you do not like trans people or because you consider the latter part to be barbaric
19:37.22HachimanWhat the fuck
19:37.25HachimanOf course the latter
19:38.33ImperiosI find it morbidly curious
19:38.48ImperiosInteresting how different social mores affect society
19:40.53HachimanGay men should be allowed to live as gay men
19:41.44OluapPlayeryes ur free
19:41.47OluapPlayerfaget
19:42.11HachimanNot have to be changed into a woman and then become subject to not only appearing as unattractive to other gay men but also subject to the REAL oppression there
19:44.27Imperios~attack Xho
19:44.28infobotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Xho
19:44.29ImperiosRETURN
19:44.33ImperiosGET BACK MUTHAFUKA
19:44.55OluapPlayerHe's offline on Steam
19:44.59OluapPlayerHe's probably afk
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20:00.05ImperiosHachiman: http://cdn14.img22.ria.ru/images/103314/53/1033145360.jpg So apparently there's a new Russian cartoon that looks like this
20:00.27Imperioshttps://youtu.be/Oze86iVvPZ4?t=100 A-a-a-and
20:01.08HachimanLooks fucking awful
20:01.10Patriot868hello
20:04.45ImperiosThat's a bit too anthropomorphic
20:16.13Hachiman"U.S. and South Korea Plan to "Invade North Korea""
20:18.53Patriot868They have had a plan for a while. Do they have a casus beli?
20:19.04Patriot868To invade North Korea?
20:28.00ImperiosIt will either be totally awesome
20:28.04ImperiosOr horrifically disastrous
20:29.55Patriot868Probally both
20:30.43Patriot868China has almost completely backed off from the North Korea as well.
20:30.54HachimanI support it personally
20:31.30Patriot868I don't know if the public does
20:31.38TechnobliteratorI strongly oppose
20:31.48Hachiman>supporting Kim-Jung Un
20:31.52Patriot868Would the US public agree to invading Korea
20:31.53Hachiman#feminism
20:32.31Patriot868WIth the current mindset of the US public, probally not
20:32.38Technobliteratorhow is that supporting Kim-Jong Un
20:32.38Technobliteratorwhat
20:32.53HachimanCurrent mindset of the US is far better than the current mindset of the North Korean government
20:33.08TechnobliteratorThe US government is the biggest threat to world peace
20:33.31Patriot868I dont think US citizens would agree to another war
20:33.46HachimanAt the worst, it is a tyrant working against another, lesser tyrant
20:34.16TechnobliteratorGoing to war with NK means going to war with China
20:34.20Patriot868At least it would not be as destablizing as regime change in the middle east
20:34.26Technobliteratorhah
20:34.27HachimanI doubt China will support NK
20:34.32Technobliteratorit probably would be
20:34.33HachimanAnd neither will Russia
20:34.47ImperiosYou know why I believe militant reunification is a big issue
20:35.04HachimanBecause you're a North Korean Commie yourself hur
20:35.12Patriot868Because South Korea can take over. Not to mention their are far less ethnic and relegious divides in Korea
20:35.13Imperios...Yes
20:35.20ImperiosBut not only because of it
20:35.36TechnobliteratorThen the new unified Korean government would run into all sorts of issues
20:35.58Patriot868Such as the poverty of the north
20:36.06Patriot868And having to feed millions
20:36.08HachimanYeah but it would be a better situation than what the North Koreans currently face where progress is not being made at all
20:36.11ImperiosThe DPRK has tons of weapons armed at Seoul, so even if they are defeated - and they WILL be defeated - the resulting victory will be  an economical and humanitarian disaster
20:36.17HachimanIssues that have already existed
20:36.23Patriot868Think Syria on crack
20:36.28ImperiosHachiman: At its worst it may destroy South Korea too
20:36.39ImperiosKeep in mind it was only prosperous for like 20 years at besyt
20:36.45ImperiosIts economy is still fragile
20:36.57TechnobliteratorIt will destroy South Korea
20:37.01TechnobliteratorWe don't need more war
20:37.22HachimanSo you support that no one does anything and North Korea is still dictated by a warmongering tyrant
20:37.48ImperiosNo
20:37.50HachimanAnd people are still neglected, living in poverty, and isolated from the rest of the world
20:37.56Patriot868The reason there is a stalemate is because its too dangerous to move in.
20:38.01ImperiosWe support South Korea getting stronger and THEN absorbing North Korea when it can muster it
20:38.11Patriot868The US public will not support a ground war in Asia
20:38.20Imperios>ground war in Asia
20:38.24ImperiosA classic blunder
20:38.32Patriot868They dont support the middle east, why would they support a new war
20:39.02Patriot868That involves ground fighting. Because it will involve ground fighting inevitably.
20:39.19ImperiosPatriotr868: Okay, admittedly, not to sound racist, but Koreans are not Syrians
20:39.26HachimanThere is no peaceful solution
20:39.29ImperiosSo the Syrian scenario won't be similar
20:39.36HachimanWorld peace is an impossibility
20:39.52HachimanThere *needs* to be military action to sort it out
20:40.07TechnobliteratorWow, you managed to be more pessimistic than me 0.0
20:40.10Patriot868I meant in the case of displacement. I am arguing primarily that absoluelty no one would support it.
20:40.21HachimanI am more pessimistic than you and I am better at it too
20:40.38Patriot868Beleive me, I'm all for the US taking more clay for itself, but its not going to appen with the way America is now
20:41.07TechnobliteratorA North Korea war would be a disaster, even if we do need to topple that regime eventually
20:41.13ImperiosAlso
20:41.22ImperiosKorea has one big issue: mountains
20:41.28TechnobliteratorMaybe if we start that war, the government can stop funding "terrorist groups" like ISIS
20:41.43ImperiosThe war will stall for years
20:41.45Patriot868shhh techno, your not supposed to know about tha
20:41.50Patriot868*that
20:42.20HachimanIt is could likely to pro-communist NK terrorist cells arising in the country but honestly with how the government treats its people, I doubt it will be a major issue
20:42.27Hachiman*it could be
20:42.39Hachiman*to lead to
20:42.43HachimanFuck me my grammar
20:44.21HachimanNo one is going to be sad when the North Korean government gets toppled; no one is going to say that North Korea was better when it belonged to the Kim dynasty
20:45.08Patriot868Obviously, but convincing congress and the public to invaded would be tough
20:46.12HachimanThe justifications practically write themselves
20:46.41TechnobliteratorI don't want to give the Republicans something to rave about
20:46.50ImperiosHachiman: It fully depends on how the US army will treat North Koreans
20:46.57ImperiosAnd... well... drone strikes
20:47.20Patriot868People are pessimistic after the invasion of Iraq. They have seen what happens when the US removes dicatoators and acts as a law unto itself
20:47.39TechnobliteratorIraq was an illegal war
20:47.48Technobliteratorand Bush and Blair should both either be in prison or on death row
20:47.57Technobliteratorbut the law was not fairly applied
20:48.06HachimanYou imply that Kim-Jung Un and his regime is popular with the American public and that war with North Korea would lead to the ethnic and religious issues that occurred with the Middle East
20:48.46TechnobliteratorWho implied Kim-Jung Un is popular?
20:48.58Patriot868I'm implying that the American public is sick of war and isnt willing to die for the Koreans.
20:49.00ImperiosThrowing SOUTH Koreans however might be a way
20:49.13ImperiosThere'll be much less ethnic strife that way
20:49.13HachimanOf course
20:49.21HachimanThat is how it should be
20:49.28TechnobliteratorSo many South Koreans will die in that war
20:49.29HachimanSouth Koreans with American support
20:49.43ImperiosAlso don't put us out of the equation
20:49.44HachimanIt is a war Jo; many people die anyway
20:49.59ImperiosYou'll be basically getting on our turf, so Moscow will obviously want to be part of the solution
20:50.03Patriot868There better trained than in the fifties, so we might not have to deploy ground troops
20:50.07ImperiosIf not by opposing NK, as I am afraid it will
20:50.14HachimanPeople do not sign up to be a soldier and expect to live
20:50.25ImperiosThen at least by being part of the discussions post-war
20:50.48TechnobliteratorI'm not talking people in the military dying
20:52.13ImperiosOh you mean that
20:52.16ImperiosActually yes Jo has a point
20:52.25ImperiosPyongyang has a lot of guns aimed at Seoul
20:52.30HachimanSo you are saying that South Korea should just not do anything and live in fear of North Korea because they have nukes
20:52.50ImperiosFor the sake of economical development? Yes
20:53.07ImperiosA united poor Korea is not better than one poor Korea and one rich Korea
20:53.44HachimanUgh
20:53.59HachimanIt is not like it would not recover
20:54.03Patriot868South Korea has the capacity and material to make nukes
20:54.26Patriot868So it would be a nuclear standoff comparable to India and Pakistan
20:54.49TechnobliteratorI don't know what kind of person with any sort of sanity could consider Western governments to be in any position to punish anyone for illegalities
20:55.15Hachiman#supportkimjungun
20:55.19ImperiosHachiman: With its current economical state, no
20:55.20Hachiman#hedidnothingwrong
20:55.23ImperiosIn a few decades
20:55.31Patriot868The West needs a serious revival
20:55.33ImperiosPerhaps, once its power is solidified
20:56.06HachimanThe UK suffered similar consequences when fighting Nazi Germany from regular bombing runs from overseas on industrial and heavily-populated areas and Japan has since recovered from being nuked twice by the US on major cities
20:56.11TechnobliteratorNow this is the thing you do where you just completely overexaggerate what someone else said and put words into their mouth to try and shame them for not agreeing with you
20:57.02HachimanNot that I am justifying the usage of nukes on part of the US
20:57.11HachimanOr the justification of nukes in general
20:59.02HachimanIt is not something that SK cannot recover from with aid and if they can afford not to invade NK just yet and solidify themselves more then that is perfect, but NK will need to be toppled eventually
21:00.41TechnobliteratorRushing into war and letting millions of civillians die is a horrible idea
21:01.40TechnobliteratorImperios, will you be able to add the section soon?
21:02.48OluapPlayermoov borealis front i ordered u
21:03.20Technobliteratornevaaaaaa
21:03.23Technobliteratorin all honesty
21:03.26TechnobliteratorI should've done it sooner
21:03.35Technobliteratorbut I was waiting for this Andromeda front story to finish
21:03.38TechnobliteratorI should not have waited
21:03.43Technobliteratorbecause it took ages
21:03.45Technobliteratorlmao
21:04.45Patriot868So I've been gone since June, what has changed? Did the Xonexi stuff wrap up? Did that right up of the Dominatus war ever conclude?
21:06.23Technobliteratoruh
21:06.34TechnobliteratorI think so
21:06.40TechnobliteratorDa Reckoning is the new thing atm
21:06.46Patriot868Ah ok.
21:06.47DrodoEmpirePatriot: Xonexi wrapped up yes
21:07.03Patriot868Cool. I'm goign to have to read that at some point
21:07.06DrodoEmpireI suggest talking to Charles and Monet and that lot for specifics
21:07.10Patriot868ok
21:07.12DrodoEmpireAlso reading, yes
21:07.33Imperiosnow
21:07.45Patriot868Sorry for being gone for so long. I went through some stuff IRL. But I'm going to try to get back into writing
21:07.53DrodoEmpireNo problem
21:09.43ImperiosSpeaking of Kroea
21:09.44ImperiosKorea
21:09.59ImperiosI am curious about what is the possibility of Paektusan erupting
21:10.06ImperiosAnd Fujiyama for that matter
21:19.03ImperiosHachiman: http://f.tqn.com/y/ancienthistory/1/L/H/M/3/tetrarch_300.jpg Totally not gay Roman Emperor
21:19.08ImperiosEmperors even
21:19.45Hachimanhur
21:19.55Patriot868I beleive thats a portrait of the tetrachs, the four emperors of rome
21:21.14Patriot868I beleive the statue is to symbolize the unity of the EMpire at the time, and is not meant to be an indivdual portrait of the tetrachs.
21:35.57Xhohttp://mrambisinistrous.deviantart.com/art/Creepy-Alien-Head-595067341 Well this was the fruits of my labour
21:35.59XhoNot bad for a first try
21:37.37XhoWow dead IRC
21:40.25HachimanPretty good
21:40.26Patriot868Pretty good.
21:40.35HachimanReminds me of Dark Souls a bit
21:41.05Patriot868I like the rust patches on it.
21:41.29OluapPlayeralein
21:41.47XhoI might try something a little more ambitious when I get to grips with it
21:41.53XhoPerhaps a Zhulultu head
21:43.05XhoBut yeah looks like I can use ZBrush somewhat
21:44.11XhoDidn't give me as many polygons as I wanted but I loaded a sphere and just morphed it to buggery until I got that look
21:44.41Xho19,926 in that head
21:45.58Patriot868Did you have a particular inspiration for the design?
21:47.40XhoNope
21:47.44XhoCompletely improvised
21:48.34XhoI might add on to it later
21:48.36XhoGive it a neck
21:49.59XhoThere's this feature called DynaMesh which basically allows you to sculpt full sized models
21:50.23XhoZBrush doesn't seem to be massively difficult though
21:50.31XhoThe polypaint tool seems a bit ngh though
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21:54.38Wrmy_hi
21:57.15ImperiosTechnobliterator: Dun
21:57.23Technobliterator:o
21:57.33ImperiosPatriot868: That does not make the Tetrarchy more straight
21:57.59ImperiosXho: Do a Zhulultu head
21:58.03ImperiosComplete with the moustache
21:58.04HalopediamanScroll up through the logs to see where I was highlighted, someone said "Tom Hiddleston", now I feel less important :(
22:00.18Xhotroll
22:00.53Wrmy_Hachiman:  Alltimeconspiracies are quite moderate and mainstream despite the title, don't you think?
22:15.32dromHachiman: Be an Android at a heavy-RP server. It is a wizard round.
22:16.42dromI go Engineering and set up the engine alone. But whilst I do this. My laws are changed.
22:17.00ImperiosMonet Charles_Murray: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning/Convocation_of_the_Highlords
22:17.09dromThe Wizard has stolen the Captain's ID and has all-access. He has changed my laws to slave me to him.
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22:18.21TechnobliteratorSleeprios, why not just add to the main page?
22:18.29dromOutrought the round, the actual Captain shows up and a huge confusion occurs.
22:18.39SleepriosDidn't we agree it was huge
22:18.46SleepriosYou can move it
22:18.58dromYea, it is huge.
22:19.53TechnobliteratorIt's huge, but it should be on the main page
22:20.05TechnobliteratorBecause all the fronts will be given their own page eventually
22:21.02MonetEventually yeah.
22:21.04MonetSo why can't we make ours a separate page now?
22:21.13dromDa
22:21.21SleepriosIs good idea
22:21.32SleepriosAlso do it without me because I is tired
22:21.53TechnobliteratorBecause it's pointless
22:22.02Technobliteratorand only makes it more difficult
22:22.04TechnobliteratorI'll do it
22:23.04dromEither the way Hachiman: Story made short: The Wizard assassinates the actual Captain and orders me to slaughter anyone who enters her office. I did so (unfortunately for everyone, it was done in Munchkin style). Later at the round, we enslave the remaining crew and turn their heads to horses. http://i.imgur.com/DvgQwPq.png
22:24.14Technobliteratordone
22:24.40Technobliteratornice work, all :o
22:25.00MonetWait...
22:25.09MonetIt's going to happen later, but doing it now is "Pointless"?
22:27.26dromBut but
22:27.35dromWhat about the NS counter-offensive???
22:27.54Charles_MurrayI'm particularly taken with this quote http://pastie.org/private/g5aa8ldtijovkswquweeqw
22:28.10Charles_MurrayI wonder how true D'Arcy's appraisal will be come the end of Da Reckoning
22:30.03Charles_Murraydrom : I think that's still happening, you're safe
22:30.07Charles_MurrayNo plans have been changed
22:35.14dromIf the opening scenes of the counter-offensive looked almost like this: https://youtu.be/SwQwT0K6SWw?t=7m   It would be awesome
22:38.26dromAs a cinematic of course.
22:42.18dromSo it turns out that KC Green has quit making comics for Gunshow
22:42.25dromI loved that site :(
22:45.24dromXho: http://kcgreendotcom.com/CC/comics/cc-tf2.gif
22:45.44SleepriosCharles_Murray: Well, he is not entirely right: the Lorons have some organisations through their AI systems and Norol
22:47.30SleepriosThough he has a point, as without these the Lorons are very much without true organisation
22:50.10SleepriosTechnobliterator: I am actually not sure if the Lorons as a fiction are feminist/misandric, misogynistic, or *both*
22:50.43SleepriosLike on one hand women are treated with disrespect and kind of always bossed around and considered to be mostly breeders
22:50.54SleepriosBut men are also complete idiots and require female control
22:50.56SleepriosSoool
22:50.59Sleeprios*Soool
22:51.03Sleeprios*Soooo
22:51.06TechnobliteratorI never really put any thought into it either way
22:51.33TechnobliteratorThey're just aliens
22:52.32SleepriosTrue
22:53.02SleepriosBut like what would Sargon of Akkad or Anita Sarkeesian say of the Lorenz?
22:53.06SleepriosLorons even
22:53.22OluapPlayer"OH GOD GIANT BUG ALIEN"
22:55.05SleepriosAnd then both were eaten
22:55.11SleepriosAnd the world became a better place
22:56.20SleepriosOluapPlayer: http://i1.wp.com/whynokids.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/e7e71cb7fd7cdadfd289b19f9693b0ad.jpg Zillum
22:56.30OluapPlayerhur
22:56.42OluapPlayerXho: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc5MIsKXEAElcta.jpg
23:00.56SleepriosI wonder if I am the only person here who does not mind children
23:01.10SleepriosLike most people here say they cannot stand them
23:02.40HachimanChildren under the age of five I cannot stand
23:02.47HachimanFive and up are at least learning to be smart
23:02.57MonetI don't mind children that age so long as they're not screaming.
23:03.47OluapPlayerChildren are bad
23:03.49OluapPlayerBabies are worse
23:04.15Xho"ur ment to dance"
23:04.22XhoZhulultu head is coming along nicely
23:06.03SleepriosChildren are good when they are listening
23:06.30SleepriosWhen I can impart my genius upon them and answer their question that it
23:06.32Sleepriosthat is
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23:10.57Liquid_InkWith my arachnophobia it's comforting to think of geckos and birds harassing and trying to eat the big spiders. To remember that the big terrifying things are in fact prey.
23:11.33SleepriosNow ded
23:11.46Liquid_InkDed Impy.
23:11.51dromLiquid_Ink: How about I give you a drider woman?
23:12.08Liquid_Ink...
23:12.14Liquid_InkNo thanks.
23:12.25dromGood! I shall fix the marriage!
23:13.47dromWhat a wonderful couple
23:14.25SleepriosLiquid_Ink: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/b/bf/Rachnera.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150821082352&path-prefix=protagonist Think again
23:14.51Liquid_InkNot my type.
23:15.22dromSleeprios: God, I nearly choked in my toothbrush
23:15.44SleepriosIt is from an anime one of my female friends likes
23:16.10SleepriosEver since I became aware of this fact I seriously question her sexuality
23:16.53dromhur
23:18.04SleepriosIt has this lass http://images.kpopstarz.com/data/images/full/400268/monster-musume-character-designs-miia.png?w=600
23:18.16SleepriosRepublican lady
23:18.20SleepriosDo not tread on her
23:18.39dromSo that's where you got that Tea Party flag hur
23:19.24Hachiman>Monster Musume
23:19.25HachimanFUCK THAT SHOW
23:19.34HachimanFUCKING FANSERVICE MONSTERGIRL BULLSHIT
23:19.39HachimanFUCK YOUR WAIFUUUUUUUUUUS
23:19.45SleepriosSee
23:19.56SleepriosHachiman does not approve of the Tea Party
23:20.01HachimanJUST ANOTHER SHITTY HAREM ANIME
23:20.02HachimanFUCK
23:20.02SleepriosHe treads on her
23:20.06dromWell he is Briton
23:20.20dromAnd Britons like their tea
23:20.28HachimanI actually hate tea
23:20.41dromSssch
23:20.48SleepriosWhat is your drink of choice then
23:20.59HachimanFizzy drinks hur
23:21.02HachimanAnd alcohol of course
23:21.04SleepriosOh
23:21.07HachimanParticularly spirits and rum
23:21.15HachimanBeer is not my thing
23:21.21SleepriosI actually have been abstaining from fizzy drinks for years
23:21.27SleepriosMost of the time
23:21.36SleepriosMostly tea and coffee for me
23:22.14SleepriosAlso several Russian drinks I cannot really describe
23:22.59SleepriosActually the only good part about Russian food is that they have a lot of good beverages
23:24.12dromI wonder what does "Fanservice" even mean anyway?
23:24.15The_RandomnessThe only thing that I know about that animu is that people donate to my favorite streamer to play the theme song for it all the time, and then this also happened http://i.imgur.com/sKGOjjL.jpg
23:24.18SleepriosService for fans
23:24.36The_Randomnessdrom: Basically, sexual appeal just to get people to look at your stuff
23:24.39SleepriosThe_Randomness: Snaek
23:24.53SleepriosSupreme Leader Snaek
23:25.03dromAh, got it.
23:25.29dromSleeprios is basically the resident text-based fan-service writer around here hur
23:25.33SleepriosActually what traditional drinks do you Britt have that are not alcoholic or tea
23:25.51SleepriosI am not really that good at erotica
23:26.01dromThe tears of slaves
23:26.15SleepriosI am only really good at descriptions, so I may describe a hot girl but cannot have her have sex
23:26.18SleepriosOr a hot guy
23:26.29SleepriosI am flexible hur
23:27.04SleepriosWe have this berry drink thing
23:27.17SleepriosWiki says you Swedes know it as Blåbärssoppa
23:27.24dromYes
23:27.31dromWhat about it?
23:27.40SleepriosWell we have it too
23:27.45dromWe also like to make soups of sweet fruits and berrys
23:27.57SleepriosLike very viscous thick berry juice thing
23:28.12SleepriosCan be drunk or eaten as porridge or youghurt
23:28.38dromThen we also make juice and soups of rosehip.
23:28.48dromNormal stuff
23:29.58SleepriosHachiman: What is this anime even about
23:30.08dromOur old ancestors (norse) used the bark of pine trees as used it as the flour ingredient of bread and miscellenous pastry.
23:30.10HachimanIt's a harem anime
23:30.17SleepriosI heard it is about some sort of human-monster contact thing
23:30.22HachimanBoring protagonist gets to live in an apartment with a load of monstergirls
23:30.31HachimanAnd gets to have sex with each and every one of them by convenience
23:30.31SleepriosI only know that the snake is the main character basically
23:30.42Sleeprios...How can you have sex with a snake wait
23:30.49TechnobliteratorSleeprios, if Antia Sarkeesian looked at the Loron, she'd probably find ways to make it about sexism, yes
23:31.06HachimanThere is also a slimegirl and a loli harpy who is apparently in her 20s despite looking like a pre-teen
23:31.11dromTechnobliterator: Matriarchy too
23:31.22SleepriosThe ooze girl is fat right?
23:31.27Technobliteratorthe Loron are not a matriarchy
23:31.32Technobliteratorthey are a very literal patriarchy
23:31.34HachimanEh, kinda, not really
23:31.38HachimanI know about this because there is a weaboo in my class who will not shut the FUCK up about it
23:31.42SleepriosAlyona told me she grows fat with liquid
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23:31.47Sleeprioshur
23:31.52HachimanShe doesn't grow fat; she grows TALL
23:31.54dromI kinda got the impression that the Loron rape the Noron
23:32.01Technobliteratoruh
23:32.06SleepriosI dunno the spider girl looks a bit cute
23:32.09Technobliteratornot literally, no
23:32.09HachimanAnd her breasts go cowtit territory
23:32.17OluapPlayerLoron don't even have reproductive organs
23:32.19SleepriosSnake not sure
23:32.29SleepriosHorse looks weird
23:32.32OluapPlayerNorol breed Loron by eating their dead corpses and laying eggs later
23:32.43SleepriosDragon dunno
23:32.45Technobliteratorthere are very few cases in which Loron have deliberately given birth to a son
23:33.00SleepriosAnd I do not know anyone elae
23:33.10TechnobliteratorFre'kloar was an example, he was the son of Badgangmanz
23:33.37dromAh I see now, Techno.
23:34.31SleepriosHachiman: So it literally has very little plot
23:34.36HachimanYes
23:34.39SleepriosHuh
23:34.42HachimanThe plot does not even matter
23:34.52HachimanThe plot is just an excuse to get the main character to fuck every monstergirl
23:35.18HachimanThere is supposed to be some political and racial background but honestly it does not matter
23:35.40OluapPlayershup get back on the rp
23:35.46SleepriosI am more concerned on how he is going to fuck them
23:35.55SleepriosOkay snake may work
23:36.01SleepriosBut spider and horse
23:36.03SleepriosHOW
23:36.24dromDid you get taught by XCOM 2 how get a one-night stand with a snek?
23:36.25The_RandomnessI have no idea why you're dedicating so much thought to what effectively sounds like a fetish anime
23:36.33Technobliterator^
23:36.39OluapPlayerIt doesn't sound like one, it is one
23:37.11OluapPlayerSo much for being to sleep
23:37.17dromWell in truth, the-anime-that-shall-not-be-named is a fetish anime
23:37.32SleepriosThe question of how to fuck a giant spider is a dilemma that defies my sleep
23:37.56dromShutup, Impy. Was supposed to be in bed two hours ago
23:38.02Monet"The question of how to fuck a giant spider is a dilemma that defies my sleep" I quickly come back to the IRC and see this.
23:38.04dromYou convince me stay up
23:38.07ZF101I'd spin a web all over dat ass.
23:38.17SleepriosFucking a horse is... possible but dangerous
23:38.19SleepriosWait
23:38.27SleepriosIf one of the characters is a centaur
23:38.33Technobliterator._.
23:38.35The_Randomnessugh, just stop with it already
23:38.39SleepriosDoes that make the main character Catherine the Great
23:38.40ZF101How do you know that....
23:38.41Technobliterator.___.
23:38.54dromHOW DO YOU MAKE SEX WITH AN AOEMBA?
23:39.01SleepriosNOOOO
23:39.06ZF101Very carefully.
23:39.08Technobliteratoroh, The_Randomness, are you planning on getting FFIX on iOS?
23:39.08HachimanYeah this is why this anime pisses me off
23:39.09SleepriosTHIS QUESTION WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS
23:39.15ZF101And let me tell you how.
23:39.24HachimanI hate bringing it up and I hate other people bringing it up
23:39.26The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: Wait, what?
23:39.33TechnobliteratorFFIX is on iOS, yo
23:39.40HachimanIt is a generic fetish anime; that is all it is
23:39.41The_Randomness:o
23:39.46The_RandomnessI think I will
23:39.46MonetEw Apple.
23:39.47TechnobliteratorIt's also coming to Steam later
23:39.52TechnobliteratorI have it on Android
23:39.53SleepriosThe anime itself does not mattee
23:39.58TechnobliteratorIt's SO GOOD
23:40.04SleepriosThe dilemma of fucking a spider does
23:40.07Technobliteratornot just because the actual game is probably the best in the series
23:40.13Technobliteratorbut because this port is literally incredible
23:40.18Technobliteratorlike
23:40.26The_Randomness:o
23:40.42The_RandomnessI personally think FFXIV is the best Final Fantasy game that I've played
23:40.44The_Randomnessc:
23:40.52SleepriosWell not a spifer
23:40.58SleepriosA... drider
23:40.59TechnobliteratorWell, I'd say IX is the best single-player game
23:41.01The_Randomness.........
23:41.09SleepriosMonet: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/b/bf/Rachnera.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150821082352&path-prefix=protagonist Would you call that a drider?
23:41.13SleepriosAlright sorry
23:41.13TechnobliteratorMy favourite is either VI or XII, but IX is the best one
23:41.15SleepriosNow ded
23:41.44ZF101I'd so tap that.
23:42.10MonetSleeperios: COme to think of it something like that was in the final story arc of Exterminatus Now.
23:43.40Monet<PROTECTED>
23:43.50Technobliteratortfw no idea if I'm a good level
23:43.55Technobliteratorfor next dungeon
23:57.20MonetTechnobliterator: If you're not sure, either check the level range or test the water with the first set of mosnters

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