| 00:01.06 | Hellrock | Sooo does anyone remember this log? http://infobot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/20151102.html.gz |
| 00:02.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | No, but now I do |
| 00:02.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | As you've posted it |
| 00:02.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | Why do you bring it up? |
| 00:06.25 | Hellrock | So ever since it happened, it kinda left a scar on me. |
| 00:07.50 | Hellrock | If you continue reading it, just read what Hachi said. |
| 00:08.24 | Hellrock | In my opinion, the most insulting thing you can say to a new user is summarized by the following: |
| 00:08.29 | Hellrock | "You're not good enough to belong here". |
| 00:09.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right, Hachi can be harsh, especially towards the new guy |
| 00:09.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its just who he is. |
| 00:09.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | I say just don't let it get to you and move on |
| 00:09.52 | Wormy_ | What exactly did Hachi say? Was it "Also your story is very laconic and far too much exposition for me to get invested in it" ? |
| 00:10.00 | *** join/#sporewiki Monet (~Monet47@cpc90522-gill20-2-0-cust960.20-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 00:10.07 | Hellrock | As of today, I've been seeing the users making fun fiction universe projects. However, they're very busy as well, one time, I heard Oluap was on the 5 Titanpads. |
| 00:10.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | And try not to bring up stuff from the past too much. For all the logs can begood for they're also great for starting drama |
| 00:10.21 | Hellrock | Yeah, I don't really wanna paint Hachi as a jerk though. |
| 00:10.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | LIke I said then its probably just good to move on |
| 00:11.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its not too big of a deal, I say |
| 00:11.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi Monet |
| 00:11.31 | Hellrock | Back to everyone being busy, but at the same time having fun in the fiction universe, and in general, pretty much anything else, but what difference would there be if I ever stepped in? |
| 00:12.43 | Wormy_ | That's hard to say. It depends on how much you engage with the fiction universe, and what contacts you make with people here. You could make a lot of difference, or none at all. |
| 00:14.21 | Wormy_ | Main thing is to be patient, I've been developing the DCP-Vermulan War for at least 2 years now, and the Great Xonexian Schism for over one. While Da Reckoning is being made very quickly. |
| 00:15.58 | Hellrock | Not just the fiction universe, but everyone's priorities in general. |
| 00:17.05 | Hellrock | I kinda planned to have a bigger user give me a boost, but there are smaller users, such as the Kaernk, or Ecoraptor, who already did that for me :) |
| 00:17.32 | Hellrock | Patience is exactly what I have in mind. |
| 00:18.13 | Technobliterator | in all honesty |
| 00:18.20 | Technobliterator | I would strongly push for removing logs completely |
| 00:18.33 | Technobliterator | I find they do way more harm than good |
| 00:18.44 | Hellrock | the reason why I wanted to bring this up is to see what everyone's opinion is on me stepping into the community as of now. |
| 00:18.58 | Technobliterator | Well, you don't exactly need our permission |
| 00:19.09 | Wormy_ | I oppose, if users something stupid and regrettable, then they should think twice. I find the logs very useful to finding old conversations and links. |
| 00:19.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | Tech: Right, we all know :p |
| 00:19.26 | Wormy_ | *if users post something |
| 00:19.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | I can see how they can be harmful |
| 00:19.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | But I'd sooner keep them |
| 00:19.43 | Technobliterator | My experience has been they've only ever been used for harm |
| 00:20.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right, I think we've discussed this topic many many times |
| 00:20.35 | Technobliterator | I recall years ago people admitting they view the logs purely to see who's been talking about them behind their back - that to me shows toxicity |
| 00:20.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | The community's made its decision I believe so I think its best to give it a rest |
| 00:21.20 | Technobliterator | although |
| 00:21.22 | Technobliterator | in all honesty |
| 00:21.30 | Monet | Technobliterator: Tnat's not purely the logs' doing. |
| 00:21.33 | Technobliterator | there was a lot more cattiness going on |
| 00:21.35 | Technobliterator | really |
| 00:21.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | Exactly. :p |
| 00:21.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | That was *years* ago |
| 00:21.46 | Wormy_ | Hiding the toxicity doesn't remove it, nor necessarily the sensation of being gossiped about. I believe the chat should be encouraged to keep things cleaner in here. |
| 00:21.47 | Technobliterator | logs are just awful, I hate them, they're bad |
| 00:21.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Great |
| 00:22.00 | Technobliterator | I don't like someone having a record of everything I've said years ago |
| 00:22.01 | Monet | This is a public channel, logs or no is this channe lrealyl the best place for gossip? |
| 00:22.01 | DrodoEmpire_ | That's fine |
| 00:22.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | But I think at least a small majority of people disagree with you |
| 00:22.30 | Technobliterator | you seem very defensive |
| 00:22.42 | Technobliterator | this is not a serious proposal |
| 00:22.53 | Monet | I agree with Wormy. Removing the logs might make people more inclined to gossip on the channel. |
| 00:22.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | No, its just I'm pretty tired of having to talk about this every time the logs are mentioned |
| 00:22.57 | Technobliterator | this is the opinion of someone who has been here for years |
| 00:23.13 | Technobliterator | and only ever seen logs thrown around in the most negative of discussions |
| 00:23.34 | Wormy_ | I don't want to argue, I just don't think it helps encourage a civil IRC chat, and I like the logs, so this *is* a subjective issue anyway. |
| 00:23.54 | Hellrock | Yeah, I recalled the log simply because during that time, I felt like I was just being seen as a nuisance |
| 00:24.15 | Technobliterator | As someone who has used channels with and without public logs, I have had a much better experience with the latter |
| 00:24.22 | Hellrock | And I'm hoping that's still not the case :\ |
| 00:24.26 | Wormy_ | I think it' an important discussion for Hellrock to bring up. |
| 00:24.31 | Technobliterator | logs are literally Hitler |
| 00:24.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | You're not a nuisance Hellrock |
| 00:24.38 | Technobliterator | also |
| 00:24.46 | Technobliterator | no one called you a nuisance |
| 00:24.53 | Technobliterator | the problem was with entitlement |
| 00:25.08 | Hellrock | And luckily no one will. |
| 00:25.13 | Wormy_ | No of course not, if anything it exposes some resentment that was shown towards you. I'm sorry you had this experience, it is not like that all the time.# |
| 00:25.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 00:26.22 | Technobliterator | My stance has not changed since. We're busy people with busy lives who cannot read every fiction posted to the site |
| 00:26.58 | *** join/#sporewiki AnonyLurk (44048e73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.4.142.115) |
| 00:27.13 | AnonyLurk | Lot of people around today. |
| 00:27.15 | Wormy_ | It looks to me that you came here with inexperience of IRC channels, rather than entitlement, and people were harsh. They probably weren't attacking your character, but it probably felt like that to you. The community needs to be more aware of these experiences of subjectivity. |
| 00:27.51 | AnonyLurk | Convenient time for me to pop in, it seems. |
| 00:27.53 | AnonyLurk | What's going on? |
| 00:28.07 | Hellrock | Just talking about the negativity in this log http://infobot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/20151102.html.gz |
| 00:28.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hellrock: Now that I've had time to think yeah I was a little rude to you there |
| 00:28.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | Sorry |
| 00:28.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | Time to bury the hatchet I guess |
| 00:28.38 | Wormy_ | However Jo is right, you can't always expect attention because either there is no-one about or several people talking at once. Especially if you are newer here, it is harder to be noticed. |
| 00:28.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 00:28.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right |
| 00:28.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | So just keep that in mind and you're ood |
| 00:28.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | *good |
| 00:28.56 | DrodoEmpire_ | Not ood |
| 00:29.05 | AnonyLurk | Remember. |
| 00:29.14 | AnonyLurk | When in doubt, ping everyone's username at once. |
| 00:29.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 00:29.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | For sure |
| 00:29.21 | AnonyLurk | It'll work out /great/, I guarantee it. |
| 00:29.33 | Hellrock | I have NO idea how to ping everyone's name XD |
| 00:29.40 | AnonyLurk | Hellrock |
| 00:29.40 | Hellrock | Let along ping at all. |
| 00:29.48 | Hellrock | AnonyLurk |
| 00:29.51 | Hellrock | Just testin' |
| 00:29.56 | AnonyLurk | There you go. |
| 00:30.46 | Hellrock | I wasn't really looking for attention, kinda more like support or acknowledgement |
| 00:30.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | That's no problem |
| 00:31.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | All I see is a miscommunication |
| 00:31.35 | Technobliterator | More specifically, the negativity generated from the fact that the log exists |
| 00:31.35 | Technobliterator | ;) |
| 00:31.35 | AnonyLurk | I take it that Hellrock is new? |
| 00:31.44 | Technobliterator | I don't know how to say this without sounding like a brag, but I'm currently leading the biggest collaborative story on the wiki, and have led ones as big before, and even then I don't get many people consistently giving feedback, even if I've somehow found out that someone else had actually read it and not really given their opinion. |
| 00:31.45 | Technobliterator | People not immediately responding is not exclusive to new users |
| 00:32.39 | Hellrock | I've been around for a few months, but yeah, I'm a new user. |
| 00:32.47 | Technobliterator | well |
| 00:32.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Luckily, that wasn't ever said Jo :p |
| 00:32.49 | AnonyLurk | Nice to meet you. |
| 00:32.57 | Hellrock | *handshake* |
| 00:33.01 | Technobliterator | compared to me |
| 00:33.06 | AnonyLurk | shakes Hellrock's hand |
| 00:33.08 | Technobliterator | all y'all mofuckers are new |
| 00:33.13 | Technobliterator | except Wormy and Random anyway |
| 00:33.26 | AnonyLurk | suddenly realizes it's some kind of weird tentacle monstrosity, because this is SporeWiki and who needs normal limbs anyway? |
| 00:34.01 | Wormy_ | That's something I wanted to bring up, sometimes fictions I make or am involved with won't make much attention, while others will. |
| 00:34.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its hit and miss yeah |
| 00:34.21 | Wormy_ | And I'm "older" than most users active here. |
| 00:34.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | Nobody's "fault" really |
| 00:34.49 | Technobliterator | I can't really tell how people are taking Da Reckoning |
| 00:34.53 | Technobliterator | because not many people comment on it |
| 00:34.59 | AnonyLurk | The fact of the matter is that the way new fiction is discovered on this website is by one of two methods. |
| 00:35.05 | Technobliterator | but I know that I'm enjoying writing it |
| 00:35.08 | AnonyLurk | Either someone sees it update on the sidebar, or they get linked to it by another piece of fiction. |
| 00:35.09 | Technobliterator | so I keep doing it |
| 00:35.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | Tech: I love it personally |
| 00:35.17 | Technobliterator | ^.^ |
| 00:35.27 | AnonyLurk | Therefore, it is not the best or most well written fictions which receive the most attention, but rather the fiction which is most often referenced by other fictions. |
| 00:35.30 | AnonyLurk | See: Tigris War. |
| 00:35.32 | Wormy_ | I enjoyed reading Ghelae's section btw. Big space pizza ovens, he's a genius. |
| 00:35.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | I've finished up an intro piece actually for me and Charles' contribution (before we RP properly) |
| 00:35.39 | Technobliterator | oh god |
| 00:35.53 | Technobliterator | the original Tigris War was actually pretty poor compared to our standards now |
| 00:36.03 | Technobliterator | and yeah |
| 00:36.05 | AnonyLurk | I don't mean to be rude. |
| 00:36.08 | AnonyLurk | But it's bad fanfiction. |
| 00:36.08 | Technobliterator | ghel's section was great |
| 00:36.16 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 00:36.18 | Technobliterator | this is true |
| 00:36.24 | Technobliterator | original Tigris War was not good |
| 00:36.27 | AnonyLurk | How old were you, specifically, when you made your contribution to it? |
| 00:36.32 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 00:36.32 | Wormy_ | I agree, I cringe looking at my sections |
| 00:36.33 | Technobliterator | Me? |
| 00:36.34 | AnonyLurk | I'm curious what the median age of the writers was. |
| 00:36.36 | Wormy_ | 15 |
| 00:36.38 | Technobliterator | Uhh |
| 00:36.42 | Technobliterator | 12, I think |
| 00:36.55 | Wormy_ | I'm 22 this year |
| 00:37.06 | AnonyLurk | Was it ever rewritten? |
| 00:37.08 | Wormy_ | Getting old, already have grey hairs |
| 00:37.08 | AnonyLurk | Or no. |
| 00:37.19 | Wormy_ | We are in the process of re-writing it |
| 00:37.23 | Technobliterator | We're getting to rewriting it, slowly |
| 00:37.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right yeah |
| 00:37.23 | Wormy_ | slowly |
| 00:37.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Slooowly. |
| 00:37.41 | AnonyLurk | How long has that been going on? |
| 00:37.42 | Technobliterator | Because as you said, it's very crucial since it's, well, the first ever fiction written |
| 00:37.45 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 00:37.50 | Technobliterator | it's been on and off for years |
| 00:37.58 | Technobliterator | I'll probably get to it after Da Reckoning and a short story following that |
| 00:38.13 | AnonyLurk | You should be ashamed tbh fam. |
| 00:38.20 | Wormy_ | Anonlurk: I've been working on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Ages/Tigris_War/The_Great_Expedition |
| 00:38.26 | Wormy_ | a prelude |
| 00:38.47 | Hellrock | I've heard that you're re-writing the War of Ages as well? |
| 00:38.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | anony a savage tho eks deedeedee *ok hand emoji* |
| 00:39.14 | Hellrock | So I've also heard that Kamik'shi is no longer canon, and replaced by Draguros. |
| 00:39.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right, the whole thing's getting a rewrite |
| 00:39.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though its happening real slowly |
| 00:39.37 | AnonyLurk | I can't not laugh when I go to War of Ages, go to the last installment before Ascension, and read the final battle between Not!Satan and "Blue Glowy Scimitar Fighter Alien Guy". |
| 00:39.39 | AnonyLurk | Whatever his name was. |
| 00:39.41 | AnonyLurk | Killer? |
| 00:39.53 | AnonyLurk | I hope you can forgive me. |
| 00:39.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Which is unfortunate because I'd like to contribute to it >.< |
| 00:39.59 | Wormy_ | My style is speculative sci-fi so I went full Interstellar with it, rather than space fantasy like the original Tigris War was |
| 00:41.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | I dunno what my writing style is. I've been here for a bazillion years and I haven't wrote many stories proer |
| 00:41.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | *proper |
| 00:41.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | I've done enough worldbuilding to last a lifetime though |
| 00:41.24 | Hellrock | Yeah, it kinda felt like Paul Bunyan became a demon :\ |
| 00:41.29 | Hellrock | Just sayin' |
| 00:41.31 | AnonyLurk | I feel like changing anything but the grammar somewhat causes it to lose its charm, though. |
| 00:42.00 | AnonyLurk | It's a cute fiction written by seven or eight people, who didn't have someone old enough to drive between them. |
| 00:42.13 | AnonyLurk | Making it anything else than what it is, I find somewhat sad. |
| 00:42.25 | AnonyLurk | Like packing your childhood toys in boxes, and replacing them with shitty adult toys. |
| 00:42.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Meh |
| 00:42.43 | AnonyLurk | Fleshlights. |
| 00:42.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | There's the charm sure |
| 00:42.46 | AnonyLurk | What are they even good for? |
| 00:42.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | Well... |
| 00:43.04 | AnonyLurk | Rhetorical question. |
| 00:43.18 | Wormy_ | When we started writing the War of Ages, it literally was a bunch of people in the mode of playing rather than a pursuit of fiction writing. That changed very quickly though. |
| 00:43.50 | Wormy_ | It was done as a fun game, nothing more. That's why it looks like fandom. |
| 00:43.58 | AnonyLurk | That's what makes it what it is. |
| 00:44.14 | Monet | Then I'm guessing you guys discovered how much more freedo mthere is to writing. |
| 00:44.18 | AnonyLurk | We're not professional writers here, by any stretch of the imagination. |
| 00:44.34 | AnonyLurk | We're a group of creative people with the confidence to write and a common interest to give us a setting. |
| 00:44.48 | AnonyLurk | With a canon. |
| 00:44.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right |
| 00:44.58 | Monet | I've come ot lear nthe difference between an expert and a professional is that the latter gets paid for doing such. |
| 00:45.03 | Wormy_ | Yes, though I'd say our ego's developed a bit which fuels a more professional style of writing. |
| 00:45.54 | AnonyLurk | http://imgur.com/xEa981Z |
| 00:45.58 | Wormy_ | Me and drom for example had a debate writing The Great Expedition about what kind of narrative voice to use. |
| 00:46.10 | AnonyLurk | This isn't exactly professional writing, to put it bluntly. |
| 00:46.24 | AnonyLurk | But it's cute, creative, and you have the confidence to go out there and do it, which is more than most people can say. |
| 00:46.36 | Wormy_ | How can't it at least look professional? |
| 00:46.47 | AnonyLurk | And it gets better over time, which is all anyone honing a skill can truthfully hope for. |
| 00:47.01 | AnonyLurk | Being a better writer, musician, video game player is a road rather than a destination. |
| 00:48.58 | AnonyLurk | "How can't it at least look professional?" Not sure if you're asking "Why doesn't the example cited in Imgur look professional" or "Why can't it look professional", so I'll answer both. |
| 00:49.05 | Monet | My best guess is keep goign writing like its a novella. |
| 00:50.04 | AnonyLurk | To answer the former, it's mostly due to formatting and the choice of adjectives used. |
| 00:50.21 | AnonyLurk | "Biggest" instead of "Largest". |
| 00:50.35 | Wormy_ | I was asking for the latter really. I'll admit my style in Great Expedition fades in and out of novella style and short paragraphs or character dialogue. But I'm not writing a book really and the wiki gives me more space to string things together. I don't know what by professional you are comparing it to. |
| 00:50.50 | Wormy_ | And anyway, that's a draft. It is unfinished work. |
| 00:50.56 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah... I've seen books written all kinds of ways |
| 00:51.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | Not sure what you mean by "professional" |
| 00:51.12 | AnonyLurk | I hold myself to the standards of Bram Stoker's Dracula. |
| 00:51.14 | Technobliterator | To me, it's never been about writing seriously good fiction, it's always been about just fun |
| 00:51.18 | Technobliterator | so I don't really care |
| 00:51.19 | AnonyLurk | It's kind of mediocre, but it's written in modern style. |
| 00:51.42 | Monet | ANonyLurk: Quick tip about the imgur post - hide your tabs and taskbar. |
| 00:52.12 | AnonyLurk | Monet, I could care less about what people see there. It's not like I have Cheese Pizza open in another tab. |
| 00:52.22 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 00:52.30 | Wormy_ | What do tou make of http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Ages/Tigris_War/The_Great_Expedition#The_Tigris_galaxy ? |
| 00:52.31 | Technobliterator | it doesn't really reveal anything |
| 00:52.35 | Wormy_ | *you |
| 00:52.41 | AnonyLurk | Me? |
| 00:53.04 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 00:53.16 | Hellrock | I gtg, later. |
| 00:53.17 | AnonyLurk | I'll read this and then give my opinion. |
| 00:53.18 | Monet | Some taskbars can reveal your antivirus software. |
| 00:53.26 | AnonyLurk | This is a little long so it might take a while. |
| 00:53.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | See ya Hellrock |
| 00:54.02 | Monet | Apologies if it sounds like I saw something inappropriate. I didn't. But I regularly take screenshots for university. |
| 00:55.04 | Monet | I myself am a little more cautious about showing what I have open alongside Photoshop. |
| 00:55.10 | AnonyLurk | I appreciate your concern and advice. |
| 00:55.12 | AnonyLurk | Thank you. |
| 00:55.25 | AnonyLurk | I'm short on time, have to go in fifteen minutes, so I'm just going to comment on the first paragraph. |
| 00:55.50 | AnonyLurk | "The Star Sailor..." to "...Organic compounds and polymers". |
| 00:56.08 | Technobliterator | i'm so lucky I don't have to use antivirus |
| 00:56.30 | AnonyLurk | Let it be said before my commentary that I have nothing against anyone here personally, and am doing this on request in the interest of the production of better literature. |
| 00:56.58 | AnonyLurk | I am also not a professional writer, educator, or have any qualifications to speak of aside from the fact that I am very well read due to a habit of listening to audiobooks in the car and as I go to sleep. |
| 00:57.35 | AnonyLurk | Let's start at the first sentence; "The Star Sailor dipped into an SSA communication laser, Kilnok was disheartened to find there had slow progress of the colony." |
| 00:58.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh boy sentence by sentence <.< |
| 00:58.08 | Technobliterator | I personally groan at that. The fiction universe is about fun, not about producing high quality literature. |
| 00:58.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | Tech: That's fine and I'd agree |
| 00:58.25 | AnonyLurk | Never mind, have to go to make it to work on time. |
| 00:58.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | Still, Wormy literally asked for it |
| 00:58.29 | AnonyLurk | Will return to chat in 30 minutes. |
| 00:58.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | Alright |
| 00:58.35 | AnonyLurk | This gives me time to give a better analysis anyway. |
| 00:58.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | See you then |
| 00:58.51 | Wormy_ | Can you post it on my talk page? |
| 00:58.55 | AnonyLurk | I'm going to be salty if Wormy's not sitll here, though. |
| 00:58.56 | AnonyLurk | No account. |
| 00:58.57 | Wormy_ | I need to be gone as well |
| 00:58.59 | AnonyLurk | Have to go. |
| 00:59.02 | AnonyLurk | Dammet. |
| 00:59.06 | Technobliterator | you dont need one |
| 00:59.08 | Technobliterator | you can post as an IP |
| 00:59.09 | AnonyLurk | I'll work it out when I'm back. |
| 00:59.11 | AnonyLurk | See you. |
| 01:00.22 | Technobliterator | I'm sorry, but one someone starts out with a sentence like that, my immediate assumption is they're just going to be a douche about a hobby no one's trying to turn into a serious profession |
| 01:01.20 | Technobliterator | I thought of it at one point to be fair, but then I just realised that once you have to write professionally with all these millions of literary techniques and with this high standard, then it's no longer fun for me. |
| 01:01.48 | Wormy_ | I asked AnonyLurk to give some criticism because I wanted to get down to what he actually means. If by professional = published work, I fully agree. I would not post of any my fiction into a book for publishing without reworking it. |
| 01:02.33 | Technobliterator | Yeah, it'd need to be rewritten from scratch in that case |
| 01:04.24 | Wormy_ | At the same time, I think it still reads like a novella but on the freedom the wiki grants to me to not be so strict. I believe I could write it into a better structure if I really wanted to, but what you see there is the best I can do while writing fiction quickly. |
| 01:05.18 | Wormy_ | I anticipate Lurk's criticism will be that you would never start a chapter like "The Star Sailor dipped into an SSA communication laser, Kilnok was disheartened to find there had slow progress of the colony." |
| 01:05.39 | Wormy_ | However, the context already exists on the fiction page in the section above |
| 01:05.52 | Technobliterator | The best I see coming out of the fiction universe is maybe a movie series like the MCU |
| 01:06.49 | Monet | That...could be interesting |
| 01:07.03 | Monet | Challenging, but interesting. |
| 01:08.44 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.11 | Wormy_ | bye |
| 01:23.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | Bye! |
| 01:26.15 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy_ (02184654@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.24.70.84) |
| 01:26.37 | Wormy_ | He's gone anyway |
| 01:26.51 | Wormy_ | Forgot Anonylurk doesn't have a user account |
| 01:27.05 | DrodoEmpire_ | Well, he said he'd be back in about a half hour |
| 01:27.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | And its almost a half-hour now |
| 01:27.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | He ping out just when you left |
| 01:27.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | *pinged |
| 01:27.42 | Wormy_ | Oh well, I'll give him another half hour |
| 01:27.52 | DrodoEmpire_ | Alright |
| 01:28.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Also, he seems to be almost a regular here |
| 02:01.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
| 02:56.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
| 02:56.30 | Halopediaman | pass |
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| 03:40.24 | AnonyLurk | What's going on? |
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| 03:44.06 | AnonyLurk_ | The connection that only AT&T can provide. |
| 03:46.44 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh, hi |
| 03:46.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | Wormy left some time ago |
| 03:47.59 | AnonyLurk_ | 'Kay. |
| 04:33.33 | Halopediaman | It's all fun and games until you realize you reach a point where you need to name a lot of things |
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| 04:55.51 | ZF101 | Hey guys. |
| 04:56.02 | ZF101 | I found the greatest commerical ever. |
| 04:56.13 | ZF101 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r0FrXXKeiA |
| 05:04.28 | Halopediaman | That makes me think of the Chicken Nugger video |
| 05:07.26 | ZF101 | So, what kind of a sock person are you? |
| 05:09.56 | Halopediaman | I like my Hanes :P |
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| 05:46.48 | AnonyLurk | Whatever happened to that religious empire that was in the Tigris War? |
| 05:46.54 | AnonyLurk | Church of Spode, or something. |
| 05:47.00 | AnonyLurk | Did their creator go on to produce more content? |
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| 07:12.14 | Halopediaman | So |
| 07:12.22 | Halopediaman | It appears I got a little carried away |
| 07:13.15 | Halopediaman | And I created a monsterous wall of text just for history, which isn't even a 'completed' section |
| 07:14.35 | AnonyLurk | Lemme see. |
| 07:14.40 | AnonyLurk | I'm curious. |
| 07:15.45 | Halopediaman | Oh dear lord, I thought I had the link copied and almost posted the entire thing I just copy and pasted into IRC <_< |
| 07:15.54 | Halopediaman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Staurol_Confederation |
| 07:17.09 | Halopediaman | If you can be assed to read it I'd be much appreciative for any assistance on cleanup, or really any form of assistance on anything. |
| 07:17.24 | AnonyLurk | I'm known to be a hard critic. |
| 07:17.51 | Halopediaman | :x |
| 07:18.36 | AnonyLurk | When you say "Four milky way nations", do you mean spacefaring empires, or nations on one planet? |
| 07:18.59 | Halopediaman | Spacefaring empires. |
| 07:20.54 | Halopediaman | I was cautious on using the term nations because when I think of the term 'nation' I don't think of inter-planetary entities, but I was trying to emulate terminology used across several fictions. If that's the correct term, great, if not, definitely open to suggestions. |
| 07:23.32 | Wormy_ | I think it is okay, but to sound less Earthly, I sometimes say "society" or "civilisation". "Faction" or "empire" are also possible but not always appropriate. |
| 07:23.59 | Halopediaman | Society would be a good one. |
| 07:24.40 | AnonyLurk | Here. |
| 07:24.53 | AnonyLurk | I rewrote the first paragraph for you. |
| 07:24.54 | AnonyLurk | http://pastebin.com/PiLFXU58 |
| 07:24.57 | AnonyLurk | Maybe you like it more, or less. |
| 07:25.01 | AnonyLurk | I just thought I'd contribute. |
| 07:25.05 | AnonyLurk | It's Wikia, after all. |
| 07:25.41 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 07:25.47 | AnonyLurk | Not the highest quality but it's late and I desire sleep, I hope it's okay. |
| 07:26.12 | AnonyLurk | I wanted to say "Law and Order" instead of the whole "Justice" thing, but that sounded weird to me. |
| 07:26.36 | AnonyLurk | What do you think? |
| 07:27.54 | Halopediaman | I like it, save the use of the term 'voluntary'. I'm not sure how far you may have glanced into the history, but it's only really voluntary for 2.5 of the founding members. |
| 07:28.25 | AnonyLurk | I haven't, I just felt like it needed an adjective there. |
| 07:28.42 | AnonyLurk | Feel free to replace it with something else. |
| 07:29.11 | Halopediaman | "with the unification" sound any better? |
| 07:30.19 | Halopediaman | or perhaps "in the unification". Also, don't let me keep you from sleep. |
| 07:30.43 | AnonyLurk | I would just say "By the unification". |
| 07:30.47 | AnonyLurk | Or "Through the unification". |
| 07:30.52 | AnonyLurk | "With" sounds informal. |
| 07:30.54 | AnonyLurk | To me. |
| 07:31.02 | Halopediaman | Fair enough |
| 07:31.26 | AnonyLurk | I also forgot to put a "Y" at the end of "Galaxy". |
| 07:31.30 | AnonyLurk | Damn it's late. |
| 07:31.40 | Halopediaman | I caught that one, don't worry. :P |
| 07:31.51 | AnonyLurk | "Derives its name from its adopted capital" might sound better, as well. |
| 07:32.00 | AnonyLurk | I'm going to go, I'll obsess over this all night otherwise. |
| 07:32.17 | AnonyLurk | No offense intended. |
| 07:32.20 | AnonyLurk | Good luck with your story! |
| 07:32.23 | Halopediaman | Fair enough. |
| 07:32.28 | Halopediaman | Enjoy your sleep session. |
| 07:32.33 | AnonyLurk | <3. |
| 07:32.43 | AnonyLurk | See you in the morning. |
| 07:33.08 | Halopediaman | Unlikely, I work. |
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| 08:15.00 | Halopediaman | Wormydroid and ImpyDroid at the same time |
| 08:15.23 | Halopediaman | One could almost think they were actually the same person the whole time! |
| 08:24.38 | ImpyDroid | Dun dun dun |
| 08:24.48 | ImpyDroid | Isn't that right Wormydroid |
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| 08:31.16 | Wormydroid | Yep |
| 08:33.30 | Wormydroid | It's a conspiracy |
| 08:33.50 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 08:33.59 | Liquid_Ink | wot |
| 08:37.14 | Wormydroid | Two droids here |
| 08:38.19 | Liquid_Ink | Robot revolution |
| 08:38.47 | Liquid_Ink | Do you think the robots will side with the working class after they realise that they're fighting the same struggle? |
| 08:40.31 | Wormydroid | Quite possibly |
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| 12:18.28 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 12:20.13 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:23.44 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
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| 12:41.12 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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| 12:52.37 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:52.43 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:53.26 | ImpyDroid | hi |
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| 13:04.28 | AdmiralPanda | hi oluap |
| 13:08.41 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 13:51.08 | Imperios | Hiya |
| 13:52.41 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 13:57.34 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: http://empirenews.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/HASBRO-Threatens-ISIS-With-Lawsuit-Claims-Copyright-Infringement3.jpg |
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| 13:59.17 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 13:59.21 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:59.48 | Imperios | Hi |
| 14:02.18 | Wormy_ | So Pluto may have clouds visible from the New Horizons flyby. |
| 14:39.22 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1f/Lemmo_Meronis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160304143902 Take a look |
| 14:39.41 | OluapPlayer | Looks fancy |
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| 14:58.53 | Wormy_ | nice peestols |
| 15:04.43 | Wormy_ | The Texans will be surfing Titan in the future http://phys.org/news/2016-03-surfing-ontitan-summer.html |
| 15:20.14 | Imperios | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ae/Lemmo_Portrait.png/revision/latest?cb=20160304151951 |
| 15:50.15 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=503018107 this is a thing |
| 16:08.58 | Imperios | The player should recieve a small goal of 10,000 gold at the start of the game |
| 16:09.57 | Imperios | loan even |
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| 17:17.01 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 17:17.10 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 17:52.33 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 17:52.39 | Xho | u |
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| 17:54.16 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJVuwrJvhHY |
| 17:54.46 | Xho | MOOOmooomoooo |
| 18:01.07 | Imperios | Xhooooo |
| 18:01.19 | Imperios | Xho: http://empirenews.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/HASBRO-Threatens-ISIS-With-Lawsuit-Claims-Copyright-Infringement3.jpg |
| 18:01.27 | Xho | oh jesus |
| 18:02.23 | Imperios | ISIS, RETREAT |
| 18:05.26 | Xho | Well, scientists have discovered a 13.4 billion year old galaxy |
| 18:05.33 | Xho | 32 billion light years from Earth |
| 18:06.14 | Xho | Which means that we're currently observing it as if it were 400 million years old |
| 18:09.03 | OluapPlayer | That's nearly as old as the universe |
| 18:09.05 | OluapPlayer | old skool |
| 18:09.14 | Xho | 2old4me |
| 18:10.02 | OluapPlayer | It will take us 32 billion years to see what it looks like in 2016 |
| 18:10.05 | OluapPlayer | Mind screw |
| 18:10.25 | Xho | 3old5me |
| 18:12.06 | Halopediaman | Wake me up inside |
| 18:12.21 | Xho | Also where the hell has Drom been recently |
| 18:12.33 | OluapPlayer | ~seen drom |
| 18:12.36 | infobot | drom <~drom@unaffiliated/drom> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 3d 19h 37m 21s ago, saying: 'HowToBasic was the shit until they became predictable'. |
| 18:13.24 | ImpyDroid | drom is on steam |
| 18:27.47 | OluapPlayer | Super ded in here today |
| 18:28.29 | Xho | Aye |
| 18:28.33 | Xho | dkasfj |
| 18:40.12 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: We could do horny plot |
| 18:40.42 | OluapPlayer | Hachi's not here |
| 18:41.02 | ImpyDroid | Try accessing his skype |
| 18:41.27 | OluapPlayer | I'm talking to him through Skype, he's just going home from college |
| 18:41.33 | OluapPlayer | I doubt he'd accept to rp today |
| 18:41.36 | ImpyDroid | Oh right |
| 18:41.41 | ImpyDroid | hm |
| 18:42.06 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12745838_924185517696404_8533232445022859116_n.jpg?oh=8cf5a193fbfae07a5ebb3d4735a86489&oe=5793FF9A |
| 18:42.18 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 18:42.24 | OluapPlayer | Sylvester's face sells it |
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| 19:10.58 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 19:11.05 | Imperios | iH |
| 19:11.35 | Hachiman | HiiH |
| 19:12.36 | OluapPlayer | EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 19:14.29 | Wormy_ | H+i |
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| 19:20.22 | dino82_ | hi all |
| 19:21.41 | dino82_ | how is allz dong |
| 19:32.39 | dino82_ | ? |
| 19:33.09 | Ghelae | Hello. I'm okay; how about you? |
| 19:41.42 | dino82_ | Great to hear! |
| 19:41.43 | dino82_ | Me as well! |
| 19:41.51 | dino82_ | Anyone sene the newest SW Rebels episode? |
| 19:42.02 | dino82_ | Can't wait to see next House of Cards |
| 19:42.07 | dino82_ | will be revealed soon here in m country! |
| 19:42.10 | dino82_ | S4! |
| 19:45.40 | Vincent20100 | test |
| 19:52.49 | TekDroid | Huh, No Man's Sky is up for pre-purchase. Looks like we'll finally see if it lives up to the hype soon. |
| 19:56.08 | Wormy_ | Xho, Ghelae: 5 reported cases of alien experimentation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZueNIeVgYY |
| 19:56.12 | Wormy_ | No sleep tonight |
| 20:01.02 | Wormy_ | I just had a sudden story idea |
| 20:02.43 | Wormy_ | Certain people get abducted by aliens, and have implants placed in vital areas of their body. Removal means death, but the technology is known to some secret government or above government agency which hunts down these people to get their implants. |
| 20:03.59 | Wormy_ | It could be set before advanced surveillance of the digital age, or they may not be able to hide for long. |
| 20:09.05 | Ghelae | Some of those "experiments" give the impression that aliens never invented anything non-invasive like the MRI scanner. |
| 20:10.16 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
| 20:10.47 | Wormy_ | And why do they need to take new tissue all the time, when they could probably create so much from one tissue sample? |
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| 20:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 20:29.33 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 20:41.31 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 21:17.05 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2670654749648365/ The Pelagrios Chronicles |
| 21:26.30 | Xho | Hachiman: Just noticed something in the Nut Blaster video "Filthy Frank Wins: 0 Losses: 3,290" "The Nut Blaster Ball Sack Fatalities: 3,290" |
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| 21:44.27 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 21:44.35 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 22:14.06 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Dracid Behold I did things for Monet |
| 22:14.15 | Imperios | He ought to repay me one day |
| 22:15.55 | Xho | That's quite a guttural language come to think of it |
| 22:17.36 | Xho | " He ought to repay me one day" I misread that as 'he ought to give me spice some day' |
| 22:17.45 | Xho | THE AINSLEYPOCALYPSE IS HAPPENING |
| 22:22.15 | Imperios | >give me spice |
| 22:22.25 | Imperios | SPICE MUST FLOW |
| 22:25.00 | OluapPlayer | good ol' rub |
| 22:26.06 | Hachiman | Right so |
| 22:26.10 | Hachiman | Why was I beeped |
| 22:26.48 | OluapPlayer | No one beeped you |
| 22:26.50 | OluapPlayer | no one likes u shoo |
| 22:27.35 | Xho | Hachiman: Just noticed something in the Nut Blaster video "Filthy Frank Wins: 0 Losses: 3,290" "The Nut Blaster Ball Sack Fatalities: 3,290" |
| 22:27.55 | Hachiman | olol |
| 22:41.00 | ImpyDroid | Also we decided that Draconis mangle "France" as "Voransh" |
| 22:51.05 | Xho | Mangled indeed |
| 22:51.20 | Xho | Kicathian for French is actually more or less the same |
| 23:10.17 | Xho | Hachiman: YON HYAKU NI JUU MOYASE KONO OKAMA YAROU |
| 23:11.03 | Technobliterator | 420, and then you lost me on the rest |
| 23:11.08 | Hachiman | SHIIIET |
| 23:11.10 | Technobliterator | kono is "this here" |
| 23:11.19 | Xho | It says |
| 23:11.26 | Xho | "420 BLAZE IT FAGGOT" |
| 23:11.32 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 23:11.40 | Technobliterator | makes sense |
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| 23:27.00 | AnonyLurk | Hello. |
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| 23:28.15 | Liquid_Ink | When reCaptcha wants me to indentify street signs and street names, it means it doesn't want to let me in. |
| 23:28.21 | Xho | Hachiman: I forgot how heavy I Am Colossus is |
| 23:28.28 | Xho | Also hi |
| 23:28.40 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:28.56 | Xho | I haven't listened to Meshuggah for ages |
| 23:31.50 | Hachiman | So apparently Salford, Manchester, has established a new law which makes swearing in public illegal |
| 23:31.55 | Xho | fuck off |
| 23:32.01 | Xho | Seriously though |
| 23:32.03 | Xho | >Manchester |
| 23:32.06 | Xho | >MANCHESTER |
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| 23:35.21 | Monet | Hello |
| 23:35.40 | Hachiman | Hi |
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| 23:36.34 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
| 23:36.52 | Monet | Hello |
| 23:37.10 | Xho | WHAT TIME DO YOU CALL THIS |
| 23:37.17 | Xho | ALSO I AM AWARE THAT I AM ALSO HERE AT THIS TIME |
| 23:37.20 | AnonyLurk | I move that we rename Salford, Manchester to http://pastebin.com/HEbYe3cN. |
| 23:37.39 | Monet | Xho: Me or Zilla? |
| 23:37.45 | Xho | BOTH OF YOU |
| 23:38.02 | Xho | AnonyLurk: Cuntsville's good enough |
| 23:38.31 | Monet | I call it "late afternoon in New York City" |
| 23:38.37 | AnonyLurk | This is a legal matter, though. |
| 23:38.43 | ZF101 | About 5:38 in Indiana. |
| 23:38.51 | AnonyLurk | If we motion to call it "Cuntsville", it'll get cut down to "Untsv" before it's through legislation. |
| 23:39.05 | Xho | Monet: You in America then? |
| 23:39.13 | AnonyLurk | Like how you need to move to requisition sixteen suits if you actually need for. |
| 23:39.22 | Monet | Xho: No |
| 23:39.32 | Xho | dsksfj |
| 23:39.39 | Monet | But it is still the late afternoon in New York |
| 23:40.11 | Technobliterator | Swearing in public illegal? |
| 23:40.14 | Technobliterator | what the fuck |
| 23:40.24 | Technobliterator | Sounds like a typical Tory thing to do |
| 23:40.57 | Monet | Hm? |
| 23:42.09 | Monet | One problem with your theory Techno |
| 23:42.26 | Monet | Salford's MP is Labour. |
| 23:43.18 | Monet | It's a Labour city. |
| 23:43.34 | Xho | Still a Labour thing to do as well |
| 23:43.40 | Technobliterator | But Labour basically are Tories |
| 23:43.47 | Xho | **exactly** |
| 23:43.50 | Technobliterator | shoves two middle fingers up to Blair |
| 23:44.18 | Technobliterator | should be in prison or on death row if the law was being applied |
| 23:44.20 | Technobliterator | just like bush |
| 23:44.21 | Technobliterator | 8D |
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| 23:44.52 | Monet | Under Blair yeah |
| 23:44.52 | Monet | But isn't Labour currently under Jeremy Corbyn? |
| 23:45.28 | Technobliterator | Being under Corbyn doesn't mean it's not still full of Blairites |
| 23:45.32 | Technobliterator | who are being slowly weeded out |
| 23:46.17 | Halopediaman | Greetings local Sporewikians |
| 23:46.25 | Technobliterator | wait |
| 23:46.26 | Monet | Hi |
| 23:46.30 | Technobliterator | "warmongerers" is not a word? |
| 23:46.31 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 23:46.43 | Hachiman | Warmonger is the correct term |
| 23:46.43 | Xho | Warmongers |
| 23:46.57 | Xho | The act of it is warmongering |
| 23:47.02 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 23:47.09 | Monet | Actually I'm starting to dislike the current prison systme philosophy. |
| 23:47.12 | Technobliterator | I'm trying to redo the Loron intro paragraphs |
| 23:47.29 | Hachiman | I have been opposed to the prison philosophy of the UK for a long time |
| 23:47.31 | Technobliterator | I have to refer to thesauruses a lot |
| 23:47.36 | Monet | "This guy spent time in prison? FILTHY CRIMINAL SCUM!" |
| 23:47.44 | Xho | NO ONE BREAKS THE LAW ON MY WATCH |
| 23:47.45 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 23:47.58 | Hachiman | Depends on the criminal I suppose |
| 23:48.10 | Xho | I do think that particular criminals should be given a rehabilitation process |
| 23:48.18 | Monet | It goes against the idea of rehabilitation though. |
| 23:48.29 | Xho | Certainly not rapists or murderers |
| 23:48.39 | Hachiman | Ideally, drug addicts should be rehabilitated rather than imprisoned so long as the have yet to cause harm to anyone |
| 23:49.17 | Hachiman | The Swedish approach to combating drug abuse is genius actually |
| 23:49.31 | Monet | Yeah my main gripe is that right now, no matter what its for, once you enter the prison system you are ocndemned for life by society. |
| 23:49.51 | Hachiman | They help addicts by slowly weaning them off of drugs like heroin rather than forcing them to go cold turkey immediately |
| 23:50.04 | Hachiman | And they supply them with healthy facilities |
| 23:50.34 | Monet | Though I suppose it could relate to how 1) the American prison system is harsh as hell, 2) whenever osmeone thinks "prison" the image is of the maximum or super-max variety. |
| 23:51.09 | Xho | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/550934481554268216/664B5810B58A5B374EAA2FFFA8B2922EE0ED493C/ all dem legendaries |
| 23:52.11 | Hachiman | Nixon's War on Drugs has been a massive failure and has caused more harm than it has done good due to approaching the issue in the wrong way |
| 23:52.39 | Monet | So the guy who has been sentenced for stealing a TV goes in the same prison as Wifestrangler McTavish. |
| 23:52.49 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:52.52 | Monet | Except i ntruth he doesn't. |
| 23:53.09 | Monet | And I agree with the war o ndrugs. |
| 23:53.43 | Monet | After all it was the Mafia who benefitted the most back i nthe 1920s. |
| 23:54.13 | Halopediaman | Hachiman, that's because we aren't fighting the war |
| 23:54.33 | Halopediaman | The obvious answer are drone strikes on American soil. |
| 23:54.44 | Monet | from Prohibition. Beer, wine, cocaine, heroin, once you force peope lto stop consuming it, the guys who don't care for the rule will bootleg it. |
| 23:56.40 | Monet | iirc (at least in England) the level of security in the prison you are sentenced to depends on your likelihood to harm yourself and/or others. |
| 23:56.54 | Hachiman | The philosophy of the War on Drugs, if I recall, is that by decreasing availability it would boost prices which in turn counters a rise in demand; except for drugs that does not work |
| 23:57.29 | Hachiman | There will always be a lot of demand for drugs no matter the pricing and it instead causes people to undergo more extreme and desperate means in order to have itavailable to them |
| 23:57.32 | Monet | Hachiman: Yeah. People will pay any price. |
| 23:57.37 | Technobliterator | war on drugs is bad |
| 23:57.44 | Technobliterator | and is specifically designed to target minorities |
| 23:58.09 | Halopediaman | Which is why you win the war through drone strikes on suspected drug dens. |
| 23:58.32 | Xho | FREEDOM |
| 23:58.40 | Hachiman | Aye; white teenagers are more prone to attain and abuse drugs yet black teenagers and children from other minority groups in the US are far more likely to be arrested and tried for drug possession and abuse |
| 23:59.05 | OluapPlayer | The logic course of action is logically to purge all whites |
| 23:59.07 | Monet | Yeah I'm not so sure on the the "X law t ohurt minorities" conspiracy. |
| 23:59.22 | Halopediaman | More prone on a per capita basis or strictly in amount attaining? |
| 23:59.27 | Monet | It sounds more like a correlation than a causation. |
