00:12.33 | Vincent20100 | Hey! |
00:17.24 | drom_ | Gotta love how easily you can overdo the muscle tissues http://i.imgur.com/IIGv2at.png |
00:22.44 | drom_ | ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/P5LbUl5.png |
00:23.42 | drom_ | Xho Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/1vg6kVd.webm |
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00:28.55 | Wormy_STO | Gorn jokes still infest the STO chats |
00:29.02 | The_Randomness | heh |
00:35.50 | Liquid_Ink | By now it's probably gorn too far. |
00:36.20 | Wormy_STO | It Gorna never end. |
00:36.27 | Wormy_STO | *It's |
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00:58.31 | Wormy_STO_ | Computer Froze |
00:58.57 | Wormy_STO_ | right in the middle of a mission |
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01:12.18 | The_Randomness | Hello |
01:12.57 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
01:18.48 | Vincent20100 | And Admiral! |
01:18.49 | Vincent20100 | http://imgur.com/gallery/gvBYK |
01:18.55 | Vincent20100 | Saw this and though of you |
01:22.28 | AdmiralPanda | accurate representation of the creation of Australia |
01:36.04 | drom_ | <PROTECTED> |
01:36.19 | Xho | there was an attempt |
01:36.42 | Monet | 2muchfluff |
01:40.20 | drom_ | Xho Monet: Testing Blender's hair physics is going to be the bane of my computer's CPU and my productivity http://i.imgur.com/7zY1v1f.png |
01:40.39 | Monet | Yeah tone it down a bit |
01:41.32 | Wormy_STO_ | Looks like a hedge |
01:41.44 | drom_ | aye hur |
01:42.09 | drom_ | I've slopped the whole hair thing for now. It is going to be the very last thing for this model |
01:46.23 | drom_ | Anyway. Here is a render of the model so far http://i.imgur.com/P1v4NrI.png |
01:46.52 | drom_ | It does kind of look more lika a rat for now |
01:49.08 | drom_ | Going to need to work on the arms, then the legs, then improve the head topology and give it a proper mouth, eyes and eyelids before I move on to the tail and rigging |
01:49.51 | Monet | It obThat's a lot of work |
01:50.13 | Monet | Good luck to you. |
01:50.21 | drom_ | Heh, thank you. |
01:50.34 | The_Randomness | Wow, that looks pretty cool so far |
01:50.42 | drom_ | It already has a mouth, but it lacks teeth and is currently open |
01:51.54 | drom_ | It is open, so I have finished the mouth before closing it. So I don't to deal with aneuryms. |
01:52.12 | drom_ | don't have to* |
01:52.52 | Halopediaman | Teath are for the weak |
01:54.17 | Monet | Teeth help you talk. |
01:55.56 | drom_ | Weak also help disgestion |
02:23.19 | Monet | goodnight |
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11:03.44 | dino82_ | hi! |
11:04.00 | Ghelae | Hello. |
11:29.51 | dino82_ | Oh remains quiet on the IRC :D |
11:33.25 | Liquid_Ink | Hello! |
11:33.27 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
11:33.36 | dino82_ | Hi! I am great, thanks and you? |
11:34.36 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty good |
11:34.48 | Liquid_Ink | What have the Rambo been up to lately? |
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11:35.45 | Monet | hello |
11:36.45 | dino82_ | @Liquid: The Tertius Bellum has begun, with the recent story the Fury of Galvarus wich ensured the destruction of the Capitals 3 moon, including their main Shipyards! Afterwards they seem targeted by the Da Reckoning and Loron incursions |
11:37.00 | dino82_ | afterwards perhaps if the story continues will have an involvement in the Voidstalker story of Xho |
11:39.40 | Ghelae | Yes; that story still needs everyone to write their introductions. |
11:40.09 | Ghelae | Actually, I think most of them are done now. |
11:41.53 | dino82_ | oh? |
11:42.00 | dino82_ | where can you do that? |
11:42.21 | Ghelae | On the titanpad. I can give you the link to it if you've lost it. |
11:43.08 | dino82_ | yeah never got I gues |
11:43.42 | dino82_ | oh forgot to save it :d Thanks Ghel |
11:45.22 | dino82_ | now to think of a proper intro : |
11:45.23 | dino82_ | D |
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11:45.52 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
11:47.08 | dino82_ | hi |
11:52.38 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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12:01.54 | Monet | SO I decided to watch the trailer for Indpeendance Day 2 |
12:03.17 | Monet | As ehh as the last film was (save for the battle scenes and Will Smith), I'm interested |
12:04.06 | Liquid_Ink | Independence Day was great |
12:05.23 | Monet | It's good if you don't mind the cliches. |
12:08.33 | Monet | Also Let's see...Roland Emmerich and the trailer involves literally dreopping Dubai onto London |
12:09.05 | Monet | If there's one thing Emmerich is really good at, its envisioning spectacle. |
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13:00.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
13:01.54 | Monet | hi |
13:04.51 | Ghelae | hi |
13:13.40 | drom_ | Hey |
13:14.51 | drom | Welp, my model has lot of polys |
13:17.17 | drom | "Faces: 308,622" |
13:17.25 | drom | *worried laughter* |
14:03.07 | dino82_ | back |
14:22.13 | drom | Wormy_: I had a weird dream this night. |
14:22.26 | Wormy_ | Oh? |
14:23.39 | drom | Earth was being invaded by an alien civilization of cortex drones. Which relay on hosts to survive. They abduct people to replace the brain with themselves. But it doesn't stop their bodies from decomposing and they are by obvious. |
14:24.34 | Wormy_ | Weird |
14:25.43 | Wormy_ | I don't normally dream of aliens, luckily. |
14:26.08 | drom | So their true appearance are brains in glass jars attached to rotting cropses that also walk. |
14:26.35 | Wormy_ | lol |
14:27.06 | drom | It was rather creepy |
14:27.53 | drom | One day they decided to manslaughter the population of Earth, just because. |
14:28.43 | drom | Here, comes the most weird thing I dreamed: steamrollers with cartoon pig heads. |
14:29.25 | drom | Of course, I was ran over. Because they were "turbo"-fast |
14:30.11 | Wormy_ | I keep getting dreams where a tiger or lion hunts and attacks me. |
14:30.52 | Wormy_ | I even dream the pain of it sinking it;s teeth in |
14:33.58 | drom | Weird, when I ran over. I never felt pain. But I could see my completely mangled and deformed corpse, so called me. Yet I still able to flee at a normal speed. Only to be chased by bouncing yoga balls. Again, with angry cartoon pig heads. |
14:35.10 | Wormy_ | Keep away from any pig farms drom. If you pass unconscious in a pig sty, they will eat you alive. |
14:39.33 | dino82_ | its begin: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning/Quadrants |
14:40.00 | drom | Other events include: adventure through a world of Lego. A midnight walk in the central city where I study, where I witness the murder on of my shallow(ly known) familiars, appearently he was gunned down with a pistol at close-up, but no one was able to see the perpeterator |
14:41.47 | Technobliterator | dino82_, nice work :o |
14:42.06 | dino82_ | Thanks :D |
14:46.22 | Monet | bbl |
15:00.35 | Technobliterator | where is imp |
15:00.41 | Technobliterator | he's like always here |
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15:19.46 | ImpyDroid | Went to the Chinese fair today |
15:19.51 | ImpyDroid | It was... intereatimg |
15:21.39 | ImpyDroid | http://i.imgur.com/j6w3bBvh.jpg It had this |
15:21.59 | ImpyDroid | drom and Wormy_ may want to take a look |
15:23.02 | Technobliterator | oh, hey ImpyDroid |
15:23.10 | Technobliterator | Any chance we can work on the Andromeda Front intro soon? |
15:23.37 | ImpyDroid | The day after tomorrow is the Day of the Protector of the Fatherland |
15:23.40 | Wormy_ | Certainly has the Xi Jinping's expression. |
15:23.54 | ImpyDroid | So we could try next Tuesday |
15:24.04 | Technobliterator | Also, Wormy_, can we work on the Milky Way intro some time? |
15:24.29 | Wormy_ | Probably next week |
15:24.37 | Technobliterator | Works for me |
15:24.46 | ImpyDroid | As in, Day of the Protector of the Fatherland is a holiday |
15:26.44 | ImpyDroid | Who will be implicated outside of myself? |
15:26.53 | ImpyDroid | Charles_M and Monet, I presume? |
15:27.01 | Technobliterator | Implicated? You mean, involved? :p |
15:27.13 | ImpyDroid | Isn't implicated a synonym of involved |
15:27.13 | Technobliterator | Hopefully, yeah, and Xho |
15:27.24 | Technobliterator | Not in terms of people, no |
15:27.26 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
15:27.33 | ImpyDroid | What does it even mean then |
15:27.42 | Technobliterator | I think drom is involved in the story |
15:27.50 | Technobliterator | Implicated can mean an event is involved |
15:28.01 | Technobliterator | Just not person |
15:29.04 | ImpyDroid | BTW, if you care, the Day of the Protector of the Fatherland is like half military festival, half gender-bent Women's Day |
15:29.28 | ImpyDroid | But considering how many military festivals already we have it is mostly the latter |
15:29.46 | ImpyDroid | Wait actually guys |
15:29.59 | ImpyDroid | So you celebrate Women's Day but not Men's Day? |
15:30.21 | Technobliterator | That's how it works. Just like how we have black history month, but not white history month. |
15:30.32 | ImpyDroid | That is sexist as fuck hur |
15:30.48 | ImpyDroid | Praise glorious Russian gender equality |
15:30.54 | Technobliterator | Not really, there's no need to celebrate a majority over a minority |
15:31.02 | ImpyDroid | Women in Russia are a majority |
15:31.06 | ImpyDroid | I think |
15:31.14 | ImpyDroid | Men all die of alcoholism |
15:31.16 | Technobliterator | Not in terms of people, but in the work place |
15:31.29 | Technobliterator | In terms of numbers of people, women are a majority basically everywhere but China |
15:32.05 | Technobliterator | But in the majority of jobs not perceived as "a womans' job" (like hairdressers and pre-uni teachers), they're a minority |
15:32.15 | ImpyDroid | True that |
15:32.27 | Technobliterator | And obviously in government as well |
15:32.47 | Technobliterator | because more women decide to just be with their families and look after their kids than to go out and get a job |
15:33.07 | ImpyDroid | It is a legit occupation hur |
15:33.11 | Technobliterator | mhm |
15:33.15 | ImpyDroid | I dunno I like having a festival devoted to men hur |
15:33.54 | ImpyDroid | That's when I realize how girly I am hur |
15:34.19 | ImpyDroid | As for black history and the like |
15:34.32 | ImpyDroid | We do not separate people so much by race at all |
15:34.49 | Technobliterator | There are some people who are calling to end black history month as well, including Morgan Freeman |
15:35.02 | ImpyDroid | We have ethnic festivals though |
15:35.19 | Technobliterator | He thinks it implies too heavily that there's a racial divide |
15:35.27 | ImpyDroid | Slavs have Maslenitsa, Tatars have Sabantui, etc |
15:36.32 | ImpyDroid | As in we do not separate people by race but rather by ethnicity |
15:36.40 | ImpyDroid | And there are more than 12 ethnicities in Russia |
15:37.27 | ImpyDroid | Many of these ethnicities do not fit into the European race classification either |
15:38.37 | ImpyDroid | We have a lot of ethnicities that are, appearance-wise, pretty much white, but have a very unique culture |
15:39.03 | ImpyDroid | Or our Muslims, which are a weird mix of white, Middle Eastern and Central Asians |
15:39.33 | ImpyDroid | I do not think a racial history month is a good idea |
15:39.47 | ImpyDroid | But having a day devoted to a certain culture would be cool |
15:40.30 | ImpyDroid | Do you have anything like that in the UK tho? |
15:40.55 | Wormy_ | We have Saints days, but England doesn't get a day off |
15:41.18 | ImpyDroid | As in the patron saints of Scotland, Wales and Ireland? |
15:41.29 | Wormy_ | Yes, and they get holidays I believe |
15:41.34 | ImpyDroid | Rite |
15:41.43 | ImpyDroid | Do Muslamic ray guns get any love hue |
15:42.01 | Wormy_ | The English don't get any love in the UK |
15:43.36 | Wormy_ | No free higher education, no Patron Saint's day, etc. |
15:43.52 | Wormy_ | *no holiday for a Patron Saint's Day |
15:44.30 | Wormy_ | Scots can veto on English laws and not vice versa |
15:45.04 | Wormy_ | Yet they claim we are the privileged rulers |
15:46.16 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: Scots are trying to get their law all over your country |
15:46.59 | MonetAway | Technobliterator: I thought Blac kHistory Month was more important in the States |
15:47.04 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Actually city councils are very up in trying took diverse. Eed is the only celebration other than New Year when fireworks can be left off after 11PM |
15:47.24 | Wormy_ | *Eid |
15:47.34 | Wormy_ | Or is it 21:00? |
15:47.58 | ImpyDroid | Eid? |
15:48.17 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_al-Adha |
15:48.24 | Monet | I know there is black racism in England but I think most of English Black History is the slave trade. |
15:48.47 | ImpyDroid | Russian Black History is Pushkin |
15:48.51 | ImpyDroid | And that's about it |
15:51.27 | Wormy_ | A very deep argument about whether or not Santa exists https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/701383822269616128 |
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16:09.11 | drom | Monet: How many poly was your Mudbox Draconis? |
16:09.30 | drom | AndroImp: Gimme lookie lookie |
16:09.46 | AndroImp | drom: At what |
16:10.04 | Monet | drom: at least 1 million |
16:10.25 | drom | AndroImp: You meant your find at the Chinese fair? |
16:10.34 | Monet | I'm considering converting the scales into a normal map |
16:11.00 | AndroImp | drom: http://i.imgur.com/j6w3bBvh.jpg |
16:12.30 | drom | shit |
16:13.03 | drom | Monet: Accidentally told Blender to "remesh" my model with Octree Depth set to 12. Polycount jumped to millions |
16:16.02 | Monet | Yikes |
16:16.14 | Wormy_ | Gott watch this TED speech http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35609947 |
16:16.18 | Wormy_ | *gotta |
16:22.10 | Wormy_ | I hope one day the public will have the opportunity to control small robots on Mars |
16:22.32 | Ghelae | But remember the speed of light time delay. |
16:22.34 | Wormy_ | Obviously with time delay, but it could scan the region and produce a VR projection. |
16:24.12 | Wormy_ | Then a person could walk about and explore a point-cloud based environment at a later time. |
16:24.28 | Ghelae | Telling the robot to go somewhere however-long in advance and then watching the "live" feed when it's ready could work. |
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16:25.39 | Wormy_ | On Earth, the technology could be live enough to be at locations and events in person. And people physically at those locations might be able to interact with your own VR output (maybe we are a bit far from holograms yet but could be 32D) |
16:25.42 | The_Randomness | Hello |
16:26.01 | Wormy_ | *2D |
16:26.05 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:26.06 | Wormy_ | hi |
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16:26.22 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:26.31 | Hachiman | Hi |
16:26.48 | The_Randomness | Hello |
16:29.39 | dino82_ | hi |
16:34.42 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/45Z6Egv.png |
16:35.49 | Monet | 10 million...wow |
16:36.49 | The_Randomness | jeez |
16:39.29 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tyrazerg How original |
16:41.01 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/GS3UaWV.jpg |
16:41.11 | Wormy_ | more http://imgur.com/a/e2dJM |
16:41.35 | Wormy_ | erm http://i.imgur.com/Zg6eC7U.jpg |
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16:42.10 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tyrazerg |
16:43.18 | ImpyDroid | Ohmyfuckingodlol |
16:43.23 | ImpyDroid | >the Humans, Grox, and a few other Ultraterrestials. |
16:43.34 | ImpyDroid | Wait so did he assume humans are Ultraterrestials |
16:45.23 | Wormy_ | He may mean the Ancient humans if he did his research. |
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16:46.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
16:46.25 | ImpyDroid | Not sure if he can use the Groz |
16:46.39 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
16:46.44 | ImpyDroid | Grox |
16:46.47 | ImpyDroid | Can he? |
16:47.19 | Wormy_ | Considering they were in the wrong namespace, I assume no research was given |
16:47.30 | Wormy_ | Yes |
16:47.36 | Wormy_ | They are for everyone |
16:47.38 | ImpyDroid | Alrighty then |
16:47.44 | Ghelae | There was enough research to use the word "Ultraterrestrials", at least. |
16:47.51 | ImpyDroid | Should I send him a strongly worded letter? |
16:48.33 | Ghelae | Their other creation: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/The_Biomass_War |
16:49.01 | Ghelae | It doesn't just feature the Tyrazerg, but also the Zerganids. |
16:49.17 | ImpyDroid | Dear lord hur |
16:49.20 | ImpyDroid | Well technically |
16:49.24 | Wormy_ | I g2g, don't be frightening, just speak from a strict sense |
16:49.28 | ImpyDroid | He literally does nothing wrong |
16:49.37 | ImpyDroid | HE DINDU NUFFING |
16:50.02 | Wormy_away | Someone might want to explain namespaces to him, and that starting out OP is ill-advised. |
16:50.12 | Ghelae | Besides putting them in the wrong namespace, no, there wasn't anything technically wrong. |
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16:54.40 | Imperios | Hmm |
16:54.44 | Imperios | I have an idea |
16:54.47 | Imperios | ~kick Technobliterator |
16:54.48 | infobot | ACTION kicks Technobliterator |
16:54.50 | Imperios | ~kick Wormy_away |
16:54.50 | infobot | ACTION kicks Wormy_away |
16:54.59 | Technobliterator | wat |
16:55.09 | Imperios | What if we have a big disclaimer that fictions belong to the Fiction namespace |
16:55.13 | Imperios | Like for example |
16:56.53 | Hachiman | That is redundant |
16:56.58 | Hachiman | And spoonfeeding |
16:57.18 | Monet | Well it keeps happening |
16:57.23 | Imperios | Hachiman: That we have people nearly every day who face it |
16:57.30 | Imperios | Is proof enough that we need it |
16:57.34 | Imperios | Ghrhrhh my English |
16:57.52 | Imperios | That we have people make that mistake every single day is proof enough that we need further instructions |
16:58.18 | Hachiman | Or that the people who visit the wiki and do that are inconveniently retarded |
16:58.33 | Imperios | You forget that "retarded" is a relative term |
16:58.38 | Imperios | Literally |
16:58.46 | Imperios | Intelligence is a median |
16:58.58 | Imperios | So if everyone is retarded, no-one is |
16:59.08 | Imperios | And in our case, everyone is indeed retarded |
16:59.59 | Imperios | That, and the disclaimer we have is very awkwardly worded |
17:00.30 | Monet | There is a logic behind FAQs having some painfully obvious answers |
17:01.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Thing is that I worry how clear the rules actually are |
17:01.17 | Imperios | THere's one thing I know was done in Lurkmore to alleviate similar problems |
17:01.39 | DrodoEmpire | So it might be hard for a newcomer even to find the rules. Ignorance is not a defense, yes, but putting a disclaimer somewhere that is visible at least would inform them better |
17:01.44 | Imperios | THere was that time when everyone added references when they were needed |
17:01.50 | Imperios | not needed even |
17:01.52 | Hachiman | FAQs and disclaimers should not need to be painfully obvious |
17:01.58 | Imperios | Yes they should |
17:01.58 | Hachiman | People just need to be smarter and pay attention |
17:02.05 | Imperios | You did not pay attention |
17:02.07 | Imperios | When you first came |
17:02.17 | Imperios | They don't have our years of experience |
17:02.19 | Hachiman | It is not *our* fault that new users keep making their mistakes |
17:02.24 | Imperios | Yes it is |
17:02.33 | Imperios | Because we do not make the rules clear enough |
17:02.42 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi, how can someone pay attention if its difficult to find out what to pay attention to? |
17:02.56 | Imperios | IF the rules do not work, they need to be strengthened and made more obvious |
17:03.17 | Imperios | Anyway, back to myt point |
17:03.45 | Imperios | So Lurkmore instated that system: if a user added a ref or a strike, once he tried to submit his changes |
17:04.25 | Imperios | He would be returned back to the editing window, with his edits still saved, but a warning that refs and strikes are not needed unless absolutely necessary |
17:04.34 | Imperios | We could try making a similar thing |
17:05.03 | Imperios | Hachiman: Paying attention is hard when you literally cannot search for anything by default that is not in the main namespace |
17:05.32 | Imperios | Also, as I have already stated, if a problem keeps reappearing, then we are doing something wrong |
17:07.00 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Is the idea I mentioned possible to code? |
17:07.20 | Technobliterator | Which idea? |
17:07.40 | Imperios | "[20:03:45] <Imperios> So Lurkmore instated that system: if a user added a ref or a strike, once he tried to submit his changes [20:04:25] <Imperios> He would be returned back to the editing window, with his edits still saved, but a warning that refs and strikes are not needed unless absolutely necessary" |
17:07.55 | Technobliterator | Right, AbuseFilter. |
17:08.41 | Technobliterator | It's possible to install it, but it takes a lot of persuading, and Wikia only typically installs it on communities suffering heavily from vandalism. |
17:08.55 | Imperios | The appropriate filter being the fiction template |
17:09.10 | Technobliterator | So I don't know if we'd be able to persuade them to install it on our community, but they may let us slide just because they trust me. |
17:10.04 | Technobliterator | also, I recall Hachi did pay attention when he first came |
17:10.17 | Technobliterator | and put the Zazane in Creature namespace even before we had these create a page thingies |
17:10.23 | Imperios | True that |
17:10.28 | Imperios | So did I |
17:10.50 | Imperios | Oh wait you're actually their work slave hur |
17:10.52 | Imperios | So you can do stuff |
17:11.25 | Imperios | SEE |
17:11.28 | Imperios | MY GLORIOUS IDEAS WORK |
17:13.20 | Hachiman | Yes and your accusations are wrong because I was a new user and I still did shit properly |
17:13.28 | Hachiman | I may have been retarded but I was not *that* retarded |
17:13.31 | Hachiman | We are not at fault |
17:13.46 | Imperios | We are not |
17:13.48 | Charles_M | Imperios : "Implicated" kiind of works, it just has a negative connotation |
17:13.51 | Imperios | But there's a problem and we need to fix |
17:14.00 | Imperios | fix it |
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17:14.08 | Charles_M | It's like "You are implicated in this crime." |
17:14.13 | Imperios | Ah right |
17:14.21 | Charles_M | As opposed to "I'm involved in this project" |
17:14.27 | Charles_M | It implies some kind of blame |
17:14.32 | Imperios | AAAAH |
17:14.38 | Hachiman | There is blame to be had |
17:14.42 | Technobliterator | I'm their...work slave? ?_? |
17:14.47 | Imperios | I know the word for it in Russian |
17:14.50 | Imperios | Got it |
17:15.12 | Hachiman | Could just outright delete / move the pages that are not fitted in the namespace, give a summary saying they should have put them in the namespace and have them read that so we do not need to approach them |
17:15.27 | Imperios | Hachiman: This would not work |
17:15.27 | Monet | Bit harsh to delete |
17:15.31 | Charles_M | ^ |
17:15.33 | Charles_M | Just move |
17:15.35 | Imperios | Because new users do not see anything |
17:15.45 | Hachiman | Because they are stupid |
17:15.52 | Imperios | Hachiman: Not my point |
17:15.54 | Hachiman | We should not have to spoonfeed them |
17:15.58 | Imperios | You seek to solve the problem with punishment |
17:16.03 | Imperios | But they won't see the punishments being inflicted |
17:16.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi, they aren't stupid, they're uninformed |
17:16.19 | Charles_M | Also, Wormy_away or Monet , if you guys want to call on France in order to have them contribute to the effort, send them a message on their wall? |
17:16.26 | DrodoEmpire | And showing them the rules easier isn't "spoonfeeding" |
17:16.29 | Imperios | Ergo your solution will have zero effect on new users because it will not actually informed |
17:16.32 | Imperios | *be actually informed |
17:16.37 | Charles_M | And outline how you'd like them to help |
17:16.51 | Imperios | *they won't be actually informed |
17:17.29 | Imperios | As much as you complain, you do not provide anything useful to save the problem that keeps reemerging |
17:17.44 | Imperios | These people are stupid, yes, but you know the main law of programming and engineering? |
17:17.48 | Imperios | Always assume the user is stupid |
17:17.50 | Hachiman | Because the problem is not mine or the wiki's |
17:18.00 | Imperios | Hachiman: They are not yours |
17:18.02 | Hachiman | The problem is with the users |
17:18.10 | Imperios | Which is why you should not get involved in the discussion to begin with |
17:18.14 | Technobliterator | Right, it would be much easier to create a subst: template to put on the user's message wall instead. |
17:18.32 | Imperios | *have got |
17:18.49 | Monet | As rude as it sounds, when it comes to rulemaking, the best way to go is, honestly, to make them idiot-proof. |
17:18.50 | Technobliterator | But I would strongly disagree with you telling someone to "not get involved in the discussion" : | |
17:18.56 | Imperios | He said the problem is not his |
17:18.58 | Imperios | What's his problem |
17:19.10 | Imperios | Preventive measures will significantly ease the job of administrators |
17:19.19 | Hachiman | My problem is making the stupidity of the new users the wiki's problem |
17:19.21 | Imperios | There is zero negative effect from them |
17:19.23 | Technobliterator | Okay, but that doesn't mean he's not allowed to have a say. |
17:19.24 | Hachiman | And blaming them for their retardation |
17:19.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: Who says anyone is to blame? |
17:19.43 | Imperios | It is the matter of efficiency |
17:19.46 | Hachiman | There is always someone to blame |
17:19.52 | Hachiman | In this case, the new users |
17:19.57 | Imperios | Yes but in this case it does not matter |
17:20.08 | Hachiman | They are the ones not reading the rules and using the namespace properly after all |
17:20.12 | Imperios | The matter is the problem |
17:20.22 | Imperios | Hachiman: The rules need to be easily available, genius |
17:20.29 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:20.45 | Technobliterator | Imperios, please don't talk to people in a condescending way like that |
17:20.49 | Imperios | Why do you think the USSR tried to limit access to the Soviet constitution to the common citizen |
17:21.18 | Monet | If peopel are misunderstanding a rule then the logical possibility is the rule wasn't written in a way they understood. |
17:21.19 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Alright |
17:21.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: Thing is, this thing happens constnatly |
17:21.34 | DrodoEmpire | As far as I can tell, the rules aren't easily found, and hidden behind a few subpages and whatnit |
17:21.36 | DrodoEmpire | *whatnot |
17:21.38 | Imperios | If it was a rare thing, it would be understandable |
17:21.44 | Imperios | But we see that thing happen like every day |
17:21.45 | Technobliterator | But I'm inclined to disagree with you both. I think new users should not be expected to read rules at all. |
17:21.48 | Imperios | If everyone is stupid, no one is |
17:21.55 | Hachiman | The rules are very accessible |
17:21.58 | DrodoEmpire | So I can't blame so new guy for not being able to find the rules |
17:22.04 | DrodoEmpire | Really? Fetch me the page. |
17:22.10 | Technobliterator | uh, Drodo |
17:22.17 | Technobliterator | that's incredibly easy to find |
17:22.19 | Technobliterator | Project:Rules |
17:22.22 | Technobliterator | Project:Fiction Universe |
17:22.25 | DrodoEmpire | Actually fetch me the *pages*, if you want to include the Important Topics too |
17:22.27 | Technobliterator | these are very easy names |
17:22.31 | Imperios | Hachiman: Evidently not if the amount of users who make fiction without reading them is so high |
17:22.35 | Technobliterator | Important Topics does not list rules |
17:22.43 | Technobliterator | it lists concepts |
17:22.47 | DrodoEmpire | It lists important fiction information, does it not? |
17:22.50 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_guidelines and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe#Rules |
17:23.06 | Imperios | Now |
17:23.09 | Technobliterator | yeah but they're not used as rules |
17:23.39 | Technobliterator | either way |
17:23.42 | Imperios | This is ultimately not about the users being stupid, or the system being flawed |
17:23.44 | Technobliterator | those pages are incredibly easy to find |
17:23.46 | Imperios | This is about efficiency |
17:23.48 | Technobliterator | and use common sense names |
17:23.54 | Technobliterator | The problem is not accessibility of the rules |
17:23.55 | Imperios | We have to move these pages every single day |
17:24.03 | Technobliterator | But I don't think users should even be expected to read rules at all |
17:24.09 | Imperios | That's pretty stupid |
17:24.40 | DrodoEmpire | Well wait |
17:24.45 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean Tech? |
17:24.55 | DrodoEmpire | People should just pick it up while they go along? |
17:24.59 | The_Randomness | Yeah, people should be expected to read the guidelines |
17:25.02 | Imperios | I mean us having to move pages every single day |
17:25.04 | DrodoEmpire | In that case I don't necessarily disagree |
17:25.17 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, if you want to start editing Wikipedia, would you expect to go through the long process of reading the projectspace and its intricacies before saving your edit? |
17:25.19 | Imperios | We could easily avoid that, by stating some basic guidelies |
17:25.32 | The_Randomness | Imperios: As if we don't do that already? |
17:25.33 | Imperios | In the very edit |
17:25.40 | Technobliterator | That would slow you down a lot |
17:25.45 | Imperios | The_Randomness: As in, in the edit section |
17:25.48 | Technobliterator | And in some cases, put you off editing |
17:25.54 | The_Randomness | ^ |
17:26.01 | DrodoEmpire | Right, fine |
17:26.22 | DrodoEmpire | But that would mean you are okay with the misplacing of fiction pages |
17:26.23 | Imperios | We could easily put the veryh basic rules in the edit section for noobs, and the normal rules where it stands |
17:26.23 | Technobliterator | Whereas if you save your edit, make some mistakes, and are directed to where you went wrong, and later familiarise yourself more with the place, you'll be eased into it much better |
17:26.28 | DrodoEmpire | And if you are, that's fine |
17:26.39 | Imperios | So when a low-edit count guy makes a fiction page, he gets the warning |
17:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | I don't really have a dog in this race. I'm too tired today to really debate this |
17:26.48 | Technobliterator | I actually haven't given my opinion on that either way? ?_? |
17:26.53 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Eh fair enough |
17:27.03 | The_Randomness | I personally think it's silly that we're making quite as big of a deal out of this as we are |
17:27.20 | Technobliterator | Well, I would give my opinion on this, but Random just gave it for me |
17:27.26 | Technobliterator | high-fives The_Randomness |
17:27.36 | The_Randomness | The issue is not in how accessible the rules are, rather, people don't even give enough of a shit to even look at them most of the time |
17:27.53 | Imperios | Say whatever you want about them being stupid, or the rules being wrong, but the problem is evident and it exists, and we have to spend quite a lot of time to fix it every day |
17:28.06 | Technobliterator | Imperios, it really doesn't require that much effort |
17:28.15 | The_Randomness | We don't even spend that much time fixing it |
17:28.27 | Imperios | Well yes but we could easily avoid it |
17:28.33 | Technobliterator | Click on a page, press "m", click the drop down to change the namespace, write a summary like "Namespace", fix. |
17:28.36 | The_Randomness | If it was a big deal, I would have to pay attention to recentchanges |
17:28.45 | The_Randomness | Which I don't |
17:29.10 | Technobliterator | If they offend repeatedly, let them know on their talk page. |
17:29.21 | Technobliterator | Also, pretty sure The Valader started out making this mistake too : | |
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17:29.55 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:30.03 | The_Randomness | Hello |
17:30.04 | Technobliterator | hi ghel |
17:30.09 | Monet | So it's not a problem exclusive to "idiots" |
17:30.17 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Civan Indeed he did |
17:30.21 | Technobliterator | No, no one was arguing that it was |
17:30.25 | Monet | if Valadar did it for a time |
17:30.39 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Civatron Indeed he did |
17:30.47 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Hachi |
17:31.47 | Technobliterator | No, he was arguing that the problem was with the users and not the rules, not that only stupid people fail to adhere to the rules |
17:32.01 | Imperios | The problem is with the users yes, but we need to fix it somehow |
17:32.10 | Imperios | And we cannot fix the users |
17:32.25 | Imperios | No amount of punishment will help the users who first come |
17:32.26 | Hachiman | We cannot and should not fix the rules or their placement anymore than we have done |
17:32.40 | Imperios | Hachiman: Yes we can, and I have already stated how |
17:32.46 | Hachiman | Do not fix what is not broken |
17:32.48 | Technobliterator | My opinion is, if Spore 2 releases and we have a huge influx of users, it might be worth installing AbuseFilter to fix this problem. But as it stands, this is not worth spending time trying to fix. |
17:33.16 | Technobliterator | At the most, I would create a subst template to use on the talk pages of the user that outline the instructions for them. |
17:34.14 | Imperios | That would work |
17:34.29 | Imperios | Can we issue a warning message to new editing users? |
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17:35.24 | ZF101 | Hello everyone. |
17:35.26 | Technobliterator | Depends how you mean. AbuseFilter can show users a warning and prevent their edit being saved if it doesn't get past the filter, if that's how you meant. Or a subst template could do the job. |
17:35.27 | Technobliterator | hi |
17:35.27 | Imperios | Like when they are editing |
17:35.36 | Technobliterator | When editing, yes, only with AbuseFilter |
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17:36.04 | Imperios | They edit, they see a warning like when they are trying to write |
17:36.17 | Technobliterator | hi xho |
17:36.20 | Xho | Hi |
17:36.29 | Technobliterator | That can be done with AbuseFilter, yes |
17:36.33 | Imperios | Right |
17:36.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:36.48 | Imperios | So AbuseFilter is a big thing, right? |
17:36.51 | Technobliterator | I think it can also be done on certain namespaces |
17:36.52 | Imperios | Not easy to get |
17:37.11 | Technobliterator | AbuseFilter can be enabled on request, but Wikia are cautious about who they give it to |
17:37.20 | Technobliterator | This is because it can easily be abused |
17:38.04 | Imperios | Alrighty then |
17:38.12 | Imperios | Forget about what I said in that case |
17:38.31 | Technobliterator | Part of me thinks they won't enable it for us if we're not dealing with a heavy amount of vandalism |
17:38.45 | Technobliterator | But another part of me thinks they'll enable it because they trust me enough |
17:38.50 | Xho | You know I'm really quite done with having friends |
17:38.52 | Ghelae | Is this all about people putting fiction pages in the mainspace? |
17:38.57 | Technobliterator | Yup |
17:38.59 | Xho | Another person who's in my friends circle has been killed in a car crash |
17:39.08 | Technobliterator | damn |
17:39.10 | Technobliterator | really? :/ |
17:39.12 | Xho | Yeah |
17:39.21 | Imperios | Wow |
17:39.21 | Technobliterator | drunk driving? |
17:39.44 | Xho | I'm not even sympathetic anymore, absolutely ridiculous |
17:39.52 | Xho | Dunno about the drinking part |
17:40.04 | Technobliterator | well fuck |
17:40.11 | Xho | All I know at the moment is that it was a Fiat Lupo VS a BMW |
17:40.16 | Xho | The BMW obviously won |
17:40.51 | Monet | Ouch. |
17:41.39 | Xho | But yeah seriously I'm going to stop giving a shit now |
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17:46.38 | Ghelae | I don't know if anybody pointed this out, but when creating a new page in the mainspace, there is nothing saying "don't use this namespace if you're writing fiction". |
17:46.51 | Ghelae | Obviously that doesn't excuse not making the slightest effort to read the rules, or even the main page. |
17:47.25 | Monet | But its a short message that could help |
17:47.30 | Ghelae | But I wonder if it would be more helpful having something other than a Grox encouraging people to make the page. |
17:48.04 | Hachiman | It's a short message which promotes spoonfeeding and should not be necessary |
17:48.06 | Technobliterator | Maybe, it's one of millions of things I would like to improve if I had time |
17:48.49 | Ghelae | Just because it shouldn't be necessary doesn't mean it isn't. |
17:49.10 | Xho | I would've thought it was one of those unwritten rules |
17:49.33 | Technobliterator | our projectspace in general is pretty bad |
17:49.36 | Monet | Xho: Unwritten rules tend to be unknown to outsiders and newcomers. |
17:49.44 | Technobliterator | because no one has the time/patience to help |
17:49.48 | Xho | Good point |
17:50.10 | Xho | Eh it wouldn't cause any harm to put that rule down |
17:51.31 | Technobliterator | we have only one Project:Rules page which sucks |
17:51.40 | Technobliterator | and Project:Manual of Style is outdated and bad |
17:51.49 | Technobliterator | but meh |
17:51.53 | Technobliterator | I'm way too lazy to edit it |
17:58.26 | dino82_ | Oh my goodness, was given this link: hilarious :d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtLgaqu43k |
17:59.26 | dino82_ | and bad at the same time :P |
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18:16.58 | Jepardi | Hi |
18:19.33 | Ghelae | Hello. |
18:21.17 | dino82_ | hi |
18:21.55 | drom_ | Technobliterator: You've told that I was involved in something. What was that? |
18:22.12 | Technobliterator | Da Reckoning in Andromeda |
18:22.38 | drom_ | Ah yes |
18:22.41 | drom_ | What about it? |
18:23.25 | The_Randomness | drom_: Seems like my typical morning http://i.imgur.com/BHZZdfM.png |
18:24.55 | drom_ | Ahah |
18:25.25 | Technobliterator | I was just saying that, on Tuesday, I'm going to start the Andromeda Front |
18:25.48 | drom_ | Oh. Too bad that I've to go to a meeting on tuesday. |
18:27.27 | drom_ | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Mte67JMw0 |
18:28.37 | Imperios | DAY OF THE PROTECTOR OF THE FATHERLAND |
18:28.51 | Imperios | It's weird |
18:28.57 | Imperios | When I say that in Russian it feels normal |
18:29.04 | Imperios | When I translate the name of the day into English |
18:29.11 | Imperios | It is suddenly very stupid-sounding |
18:29.55 | TekDroid | I guess that's why it's so easy for Murica to mock Russia |
18:33.31 | drom_ | lmao |
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18:34.31 | TekDroid | ~test |
18:34.31 | infobot | i heard test is not funny |
18:39.11 | Wormy_away | Ghelae: I'm tied. On the one hand, a short message could help. On the other, I believe it is up to users to make the effort in learning wiki etiquette and code. That being said, we could make such a template, and some new users might *still* not make the effort to read it, which in a strange ways means it may not be problematic to personal effort anyway. |
18:41.16 | Technobliterator | AbuseFilter would force them to read it :p |
18:41.23 | Ghelae | It is up to new users to make the effort in learning wiki etiquette, but what about the ones that don't? It's not a huge problem in the grand scheme of things, but if we decide that it is a problem, then what do we do? Just sit around on our "well *I* read the rules" high horse? |
18:42.44 | Imperios | What about just making the message on the main page more easily accesible |
18:42.58 | Imperios | Like I do not expect all noobs to even what a namespace is |
18:43.07 | Wormy_away | At the end of the day, it is their experience which is diminished, not ours. |
18:43.14 | Hachiman | It IS accessible |
18:43.19 | Wormy_away | Not unless we pander them. |
18:43.28 | Ghelae | If we do leave a message somewhere, the edit page is the one place all editors are guaranteed to see it. |
18:43.33 | Hachiman | I am not willing to pander or spoonfeed |
18:44.08 | Ghelae | Hachiman: So you don't consider it a problem? Or do you have another solution? |
18:44.23 | Hachiman | I don't consider it a problem |
18:44.27 | Wormy_away | If users fail to read rthe rules, we tell tell them the problem. If they continue to ignore or be lazy, they get more and are eventually blocked or their pages deleted |
18:44.30 | Ghelae | That's fine. |
18:44.52 | Monet | I agree with Ghelae on a message. Most of the time when I see that Grox message, I'm creating the page anyway. |
18:45.21 | Monet | I can't remember the last time I innocuously stumbled into it. |
18:45.31 | Ghelae | I don't care much about it either; I'm just making suggestions for what people who are concerned about it could choose to do. |
18:45.57 | Wormy_away | I don't think it's a massive problem, either way. |
18:47.18 | Wormy_away | Actually, we should think what is best for the overall wiki experience. If it means moving less pages and sending less instructional messages, then it improves ours. Whether or not it will pragmatically have an impact on personal growth in the wiki, we can't know in advance. |
18:49.10 | Wormy_away | In a way, telling users to move their pages to the fiction namespace is pandering. If they were properly interested in the wiki, they would see the Recent Changes and work it out for themselves. |
18:49.25 | Wormy_away | Once a page was moved. |
18:50.21 | Wormy_away | No, I'm happy to meet half-way and will accept a template or abuse filter. |
18:55.27 | Imperios | That's my rationale |
18:55.31 | Imperios | We won't have so much trouble |
18:55.48 | Imperios | One way or another we will have to fix their mess, better to do it preemptively |
18:55.51 | Wormy_away | We might actually be pandering less. |
18:56.14 | Wormy_away | After-all it is still the user's choice to read. |
18:57.57 | drom_ | Well, that was fucking magicial |
18:59.02 | Technobliterator | I think it's a very minor problem |
19:00.19 | Wormy_away | I just love to take things to deep levels. |
19:00.37 | Imperios | It is, my suggestion was just an idea |
19:00.49 | Imperios | We could do it if it would be easy to implement it |
19:00.57 | Wormy_away | It would be. |
19:01.07 | Imperios | Then why not |
19:01.10 | Imperios | Let's do it then |
19:01.21 | Wormy_away | Can't do tonight. |
19:01.28 | Technobliterator | Because I don't think it's worth contacting Wikia about getting AbuseFilter |
19:01.36 | Technobliterator | when they may just say "no" |
19:02.24 | Imperios | Right |
19:02.34 | Imperios | Not worth the time then |
19:02.48 | Technobliterator | It's not about time |
19:02.57 | Technobliterator | it's about whether there's any point doing it |
19:03.08 | Technobliterator | I don't think this is a big enough issue for there to be a point |
19:03.53 | Monet | The template might be simple enough |
19:03.55 | Ghelae | "Abuse" is an overstatement for this kind of activity. |
19:04.14 | Technobliterator | The template would likely not help |
19:04.29 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:04.39 | Technobliterator | No one would read it |
19:04.51 | Technobliterator | they would post anyway |
19:05.14 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Newarticletext is the current new article text, for reference. |
19:05.20 | Monet | Isn't one of the guidelines to assume good faith? |
19:05.56 | Ghelae | It's true that we should assume good faith, but it's also true that said assumption is violated for people who don't even bother to glance at the wiki's rules. |
19:06.49 | dino82_ | @Hachi:first named QZazane: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sinhai_Kakharis |
19:06.51 | Ghelae | That being said, we can't be certain that their lack of reading would apply to something right in front of them. It could simply be not bothering to look for the information rather than deliberately ignoring it. |
19:07.13 | Monet | The good faith is being violated in this case, but it may be because if modern media is any indication, "short and sweet" is the preferred way of delivering information |
19:07.23 | Technobliterator | The good faith is absolutely not being violated. |
19:07.47 | Technobliterator | Good faith would be violated if we deleted their pages and banned them and assumed they were not following rules deliberately. |
19:07.48 | Monet | Okay maybe that was the wrong word |
19:08.29 | Technobliterator | Also, Ghelae, regardless of the outcome of this discussion, I support completely redoing that MediaWiki page either way : | |
19:08.37 | Ghelae | Arguably we're assuming good faith but not great faith. Or decent faith but not good faith. |
19:09.18 | Technobliterator | No, I think we're not assuming bad faith at all. We're not hurting users for not following rules. |
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19:09.50 | Ghelae | We're certainly not assuming bad faith. I agree there. But this is practically devolving into semantics now. :P |
19:10.20 | Technobliterator | haha yeah |
19:11.49 | Technobliterator | I don't know what to replace the Newarticletext with, but definitely not that ugly Grox image |
19:12.10 | Technobliterator | I always hated Wookieepedia's newarticletext |
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19:38.14 | Wormy_away | Technobliterator: I'm the only person that likes it :( |
19:38.28 | Technobliterator | i'm not really a fan |
19:38.31 | Wormy_away | The template could look better |
19:38.46 | Wormy_away | But the Grox is meant to be a bit cheesey |
19:39.22 | Wormy_away | Perhaps we could have a Jarzo posing |
19:41.26 | Wormy_away | Hang on a minute |
19:41.32 | Technobliterator | the template is my main problem honestly |
19:41.34 | Technobliterator | Not the image |
19:41.37 | Technobliterator | The template just looks ugly |
19:42.04 | Wormy_away | Technobliterator, Ghelae: The fiction: space templates direct me to an "invalid page title", maybe this is why users are creating pages in the main namespace? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:FormStart?page_name=Fiction%3A&form=Fiction+character |
19:42.28 | Technobliterator | Personally, if it were me, I would remove form edits |
19:43.54 | Ghelae | Wormy_away: I can get that if I only type "Fiction:" into the form. Does it occur under in any other situations? |
19:44.19 | Wormy_away | No, only the forms. |
19:44.45 | Wormy_away | It occurs for all non-mainspace creation articles. |
19:44.50 | Wormy_away | Using the forms |
19:46.10 | Technobliterator | Forms are bugged, so is SMW, I would love to replace them somehow |
19:46.32 | Ghelae | Oh, if you click the "create [...] page" button without actually typing in a page title. |
19:46.32 | Technobliterator | But we won't be able to replace SMW for a while since taxonomy is so reliant on it |
19:48.30 | Ghelae | I wouldn't expect people who don't even bother to look at the fact that there's an entry form immediately to the left of what they're clicking to notice a reminder immediately above where they then start typing, though. |
19:49.53 | OluapPlayer | Xho Hachiman Imperios ImpyDroid: Can we finish that rp? |
19:50.33 | Imperios | Hm |
19:50.37 | Imperios | How long would it take? |
19:50.39 | Imperios | An hour or so? |
19:50.48 | OluapPlayer | Depends of how fast you are to reply |
19:50.53 | Imperios | Fair point |
19:51.01 | Imperios | I'm okay with that |
19:51.01 | OluapPlayer | Don't ask me about how long it takes, rps take as long as they need |
19:53.25 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: blagh |
19:55.55 | Imperios | Probably eating |
19:56.17 | OluapPlayer | Fuck sake we were talking until minutes ago |
19:56.22 | OluapPlayer | Just like yesterday |
19:56.24 | Monet | I think asking how long it might take suggests he can't go beyond a certain timespan |
19:56.31 | OluapPlayer | I'm never gonna get that fucking section done |
19:57.16 | Monet | Welcome to my world. |
19:57.29 | Imperios | Monet x OluapPlayer |
19:58.28 | OluapPlayer | This is one of the reasons I spend most of my time out of the IRC lately |
19:58.33 | OluapPlayer | Getting things done seems impossible nowadays |
19:58.42 | Technobliterator | I think if it gets to that point, the best thing to do is to write it solo |
19:59.15 | OluapPlayer | Not when half of the section has been rp'd already |
19:59.28 | OluapPlayer | Besides it's too linked to Imp's fiction to do it solo |
19:59.30 | Monet | I've done it before |
19:59.52 | OluapPlayer | If it were possible to do it solo, I'd have done it back at january |
19:59.54 | Technobliterator | oh |
20:00.46 | Technobliterator | bbl |
20:00.56 | drom_ | Monet: Just figured out I could try improving the head. http://i.imgur.com/poXCWdv.png |
20:01.20 | Hachiman | Sorry was afk |
20:01.23 | Hachiman | Yeah I can RP |
20:01.25 | Imperios | Right |
20:01.31 | Imperios | Now we must somehow summon Xho back |
20:01.32 | Monet | Seeing the msh might be nice unless it would be too dense. |
20:02.00 | Monet | mesh* |
20:02.04 | drom | Monet: You meant the wire? |
20:02.17 | Monet | Yes |
20:02.50 | Monet | Can anyone rememer the name of that UN thing we made? |
20:03.26 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Gigaquadrantic_Alliance#United_Gigaquadrantic_Alliance_Peacekeeping_Corps |
20:04.24 | drom | Monet: Well you are not wrong http://i.imgur.com/8zbHoCM.png |
20:05.03 | Monet | Yeah I can't read that lol |
20:05.11 | drom | I could lengthen the troso and legs though |
20:05.41 | Monet | Just a thought though you may need to smoothen the model a bit |
20:06.02 | Monet | For a mesh that complicated, the tail's slooking rather jagged. |
20:06.29 | drom | It is. Because the rings are limited |
20:06.41 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (97e2e503@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.226.229.3) |
20:08.07 | Wormy_away | hi |
20:08.19 | Wormy_away | Xho: Sweet dreams https://youtu.be/VlFHFE1zpwM?t=1m11s |
20:09.18 | Xho | The music does not help |
20:09.19 | dino82_ | oh got to go |
20:09.21 | dino82_ | see ya all next time |
20:09.22 | dino82_ | bye bye |
20:10.14 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/KnBAvvJ.png |
20:10.45 | Monet | OKay...right |
20:10.51 | Monet | I can see what you mean about the lack of rings |
20:11.36 | Monet | Only three segments for a tail that long is really pushing it |
20:12.49 | drom | I'm aware of it, but I'm not planning to increase the the count right now. |
20:13.06 | drom | Because it is a major pain in the arse to sculpt for now |
20:13.31 | Monet | Right |
20:13.48 | Monet | I'm looking at this model and thinking to myself that you have a number of rather stretched polygons |
20:14.05 | Monet | the tail and the shins mainly |
20:14.44 | drom | Sculpting it will solve the most of the problems |
20:15.24 | drom | Dyntopo = ez |
20:15.35 | Monet | https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-psw4EPNDN58/VsJUTBIdUMI/AAAAAAAAC1c/_Scc6PFLS0Q/s1600/Model-001-Cycle.gif here's my model for reference anyway |
20:15.47 | drom | I've seen it |
20:15.56 | drom | But I do understand what you mean |
20:30.09 | OluapPlayer | Fucking titapad |
20:31.32 | Wormy_away | drom: Sculpting, or adding edge loops to break up the stretched faces and manipulating them. Then again, I'd only go that far if you are animating it, or applying very complex texturing. |
20:32.15 | drom | Wormy_away: Or go for game asset with HQ normal maps |
20:32.25 | Wormy_away | yeah |
20:32.29 | drom | Using baking and the decimate modifer |
20:33.08 | Wormy_away | Which reminds me, my 3D web models need to be built again because I was rushing and left bad geometry |
20:37.13 | Hachiman | Oh my fucking God FUCKPAD |
20:43.13 | Imperios | Monet: Dergon |
20:43.36 | Imperios | I actually like that kind of Draconis design, it works more with their sophisticated culture |
20:43.47 | Imperios | They're more slender, more elegant, more graceful |
20:44.04 | Monet | Imperios: I wondered about linking a higher res version I've been working on. |
20:44.13 | Imperios | I think you already did |
20:44.17 | Imperios | THe one with scales right |
20:44.29 | Monet | Yeah |
20:44.36 | Monet | Though not on this channel |
20:45.38 | drom | Monet: Editing the model to expand, extend or shorten high-poly parts is very messy, but easily restored with the proper hand at sculpting http://i.imgur.com/XwxqdAJ.png |
20:46.19 | Vincent20100 | ~seen cyrannian |
20:46.19 | infobot | cyrannian <uid97882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oobzbeylwvdhclpz> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 23h 21m 57s ago, saying: 'i blame u'. |
20:46.37 | drom | Secondly, I've already pictures and backup saves of the old model, so I'm all good |
20:52.37 | Wormy_away | Butbutbut There are only trace gases that escape the surface in ridiculously tiny amounts on the Moon... https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/46rpmz/nasa_reveals_astronauts_heard_unexplained_music/ |
20:54.03 | Wormy_away | Oh wait, the claim is astronauts heard it on their radios when Earth was obscured. |
20:57.39 | Monet | I found one Redditor pointing out that it might be tabloid spin |
20:58.13 | Monet | "strange static" might not be impressive, but "unexplained music?" that's going ot get peopel talking |
20:58.27 | Wormy_away | I think you are right |
20:59.07 | Monet | Sadly it's becoming more regular for headliens to be...well...clickbait-y. |
20:59.12 | Wormy_away | I am now listening to the recordings, and it sounds like the classic radio static you get in space |
20:59.16 | Monet | It works though |
20:59.33 | Wormy_away | The astronauts probably joked about how it sounded like space music |
20:59.48 | Wormy_away | But that won't make the headlines |
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21:03.19 | Wormy_away | The Moon doesn't have a magnetosphere however |
21:03.49 | Wormy_away | well, extremely weak and fragmented one |
21:04.26 | Wormy_away | moon dust? |
21:08.00 | Imperios | Wormy_away Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQUWlzmXX3M You sure that's suitable for children |
21:09.03 | *** join/#sporewiki Cyrannian|Semi (uid97882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hrztdoaiqmzsosgi) |
21:09.05 | Wormy_away | I think it is fine. |
21:09.19 | Wormy_away | Hi] |
21:09.30 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
21:09.37 | Cyrannian | Hi |
21:09.43 | Monet | Imperios: No more strange than what you get on 4Music or MTV. |
21:09.46 | OluapPlayer | ~dropkick Cyrannian |
21:09.46 | infobot | ACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua |
21:09.46 | Monet | Hi |
21:09.49 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer |
21:09.49 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction |
21:10.10 | Wormy_away | You scared waptor away y u do did |
21:10.12 | Wormy_away | dis |
21:13.50 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#Shu.27wokerama.27s_Intervention I ACTUALLY got it done |
21:14.18 | OluapPlayer | It only took nearly 2 months |
21:15.52 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Now you have no excuse to not read the war's ending |
21:15.55 | OluapPlayer | git to it |
21:17.14 | Xho | So is that the war officially finished |
21:17.30 | OluapPlayer | Well the war officially ended back in january |
21:17.34 | OluapPlayer | That was just a section I had skipped |
21:17.38 | Xho | rip in pieces fog war never 4get |
21:19.02 | Imperios | Hachiman: Just to make things sure |
21:19.08 | Hachiman | Oh my God |
21:19.11 | Hachiman | I said it's fine |
21:19.14 | Hachiman | Stop worrying |
21:19.24 | Imperios | Why should I |
21:19.35 | Imperios | If I did not imply it enough I must add a few more sections later on |
21:19.40 | Imperios | SOmewhere in the third part perhaps |
21:19.47 | Imperios | Anyway |
21:19.56 | Imperios | Did you find Prima Arcana's appearance in general unexpected or that Lupercal became it precisely |
21:20.33 | Hachiman | I knew that Felaanith would appear eventually because of course he would but how and when he appeared just came off as deus ex machina to me |
21:21.15 | OluapPlayer | Because you didn't pay attention to the other sections featuring the Anointed |
21:21.58 | OluapPlayer | It's not Imp's fault |
21:21.59 | Imperios | Right |
21:22.08 | OluapPlayer | So he needs to stop worrying and READ THE ENDING |
21:22.10 | Imperios | PErhaps I should have made it clearer that Prima is Felaanith |
21:22.11 | Hachiman | I wasn't saying it was Imp's fault |
21:22.13 | Imperios | I am reading right now |
21:22.29 | OluapPlayer | Imp is blaming himself over it |
21:22.29 | Imperios | And holy shit Pirates of the Caribbean hur |
21:22.35 | OluapPlayer | That is what I mean |
21:22.38 | OluapPlayer | wait wat |
21:23.38 | Imperios | Remember Pirates of the Caribbean 3 |
21:24.06 | Imperios | The ending |
21:24.09 | Imperios | Davy Jones' death |
21:24.30 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
21:24.38 | OluapPlayer | That was a coincidence |
21:24.48 | OluapPlayer | I didn't have any inspiration in mind while writing |
21:24.48 | Xho | FALL TO THE ABYSS |
21:25.14 | Imperios | Anyway Oluap's opinion on whether the reveal was appropriate does not really count because he was aware of the ending full well |
21:25.15 | Imperios | Now Xho |
21:25.36 | OluapPlayer | Don't forget the Primogius section |
21:25.37 | Imperios | Did you feel Felaanith appearing was too unexpected |
21:25.40 | OluapPlayer | That's where the ending starts |
21:25.43 | Imperios | I read it |
21:26.02 | Xho | I ain't offering an opinion on this |
21:26.03 | OluapPlayer | i need feedback nghngh |
21:28.13 | Imperios | Right so |
21:28.27 | Imperios | The hints I was giving were the discussions of the Anointed |
21:28.43 | Imperios | The musings of Lupercal on why they even were stuck in such a place |
21:28.52 | Imperios | Their contrast with Kagu |
21:28.58 | Imperios | Hm |
21:30.13 | OluapPlayer | Now I can move on back to the fantasyverse |
21:30.20 | OluapPlayer | Except the next plot's cast is STILL undecided |
21:30.26 | OluapPlayer | because you're all lazy and awful |
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21:33.24 | DanzaDelMondo | I'm probably going to work more on the Shattering now |
21:33.30 | Xho | Does anyone wanna watch me make a thingy in Spore |
21:33.40 | DanzaDelMondo | And the archaeology plot with Frenchie, Bork and Commie |
21:34.20 | Monet | Xho: I'd be interested |
21:34.45 | drom | I'M NOT A GODDAMN BORK |
21:34.50 | drom | OSTKAKA |
21:36.32 | DanzaDelMondo | drom: And neither am I a Russkie hur |
21:36.38 | DanzaDelMondo | Yet Oluap keeps calling me that |
21:37.03 | drom | DanzaDelMondo: you goddamn zergling rusher hur |
21:37.05 | DanzaDelMondo | I can only be called Russkie if it is an adjective and precedes "Koreyets/Korean" |
21:37.32 | DanzaDelMondo | Russkie is unique among all Russian ethnonyms in that it is both an adjective and a noun |
21:38.02 | DanzaDelMondo | It may be the norm in English, bot most Russian names for ethnicities are more like your "Spaniard" or "Englishman" |
21:38.45 | DanzaDelMondo | "Russkie" may refer to the post-Soviet diasporas to show that they A) mostly speak Russian B) are closely related culturally to Russians |
21:38.52 | OluapPlayer | You'll forever be the russian guy of the wiki |
21:38.58 | OluapPlayer | So you'll forever be the ruskie to me |
21:38.59 | DanzaDelMondo | Such as "Russkie German" |
21:39.00 | OluapPlayer | ruskie |
21:39.06 | DanzaDelMondo | ROSSIYANIN |
21:39.20 | drom | OluapPlayer is the stinking monkey of Sporewiki |
21:39.28 | DanzaDelMondo | The difference is the same as the difference between the Brit and the Englishman |
21:39.51 | DanzaDelMondo | Though all our Brits are also English |
21:39.55 | DanzaDelMondo | Do we have any Scots? |
21:39.59 | Technobliterator | What would I count as? |
21:40.11 | OluapPlayer | DanzaDelMondo: Last thing for you to add to the Fog War is the Radeon/Artharon contribution of the "everyone shoots Shu'rim but he laughs it off" bit |
21:40.41 | OluapPlayer | You're a britbong |
21:40.41 | Wormy_away | Richardson told me he lived in Scotland before moving to Canada. |
21:41.10 | Xho | So no more takers then |
21:41.27 | OluapPlayer | no fuk u lul |
21:41.55 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
21:42.10 | Technobliterator | I mean, I'm Lithuanian |
21:42.20 | DanzaDelMondo | Actually yes Jo |
21:42.21 | OluapPlayer | Lives in britbong, acts like britbong |
21:42.22 | OluapPlayer | is britbong |
21:42.24 | DanzaDelMondo | Jo is British but not English |
21:42.27 | drom | Anyway. If I had a good internet enough to stream. Would anyone wanna watch me modelling on Blender? |
21:42.32 | DanzaDelMondo | Jo is Britbong yes |
21:42.33 | Technobliterator | :c |
21:42.42 | Wormy_away | On matters like this, it is how you feel. |
21:42.54 | OluapPlayer | You, Xho, Wormy, Hachi, Monet and Ghelae |
21:42.56 | OluapPlayer | All britbongs |
21:42.58 | Xho | aye |
21:43.09 | OluapPlayer | god save the queen m8 |
21:43.15 | DanzaDelMondo | Britbongs is a more general term than russkie though |
21:43.19 | Monet | WOuldn't the -Bong suffix be specific to Londoners? |
21:43.20 | Wormy_away | If Jo said she was Lithuanian and English, I'd see no conflict. |
21:43.31 | DanzaDelMondo | You can become a britbong |
21:43.49 | OluapPlayer | The science of britbonging |
21:43.57 | DanzaDelMondo | I am curious what would happen if another Russian entered the wiki |
21:44.16 | drom | Sporewiki consumed by stalinism |
21:44.35 | Wormy_away | SporeWii |
21:44.43 | drom | Ðлл Ñ
аил оÑÑ Ð½ÐµÐ² ÑÑÑÑиан овеÑлоÑдÑ! |
21:44.44 | Wormy_away | SporeWiki, the year of the Red Revolution |
21:45.16 | Monet | Danza: You'd be Ruskie no.1 and the other guy would be RUskie no. 2 |
21:45.31 | Monet | Although could Vinny be an honorary Ruskie? |
21:45.37 | drom | ÐвеÑÑне! ÐеÑÑÑ ÑÑаÑÑ Ð²ÑиÑинг ин ЦÑÑиллиÑ! |
21:45.49 | DanzaDelMondo | drom: Thank God I am not Russian but K- oh wait this only makes my case worse |
21:45.56 | DanzaDelMondo | Can't run away now, either way I am a commie hur |
21:46.12 | OluapPlayer | You'd engage in eternal political discussion |
21:46.12 | drom | Hur |
21:46.16 | OluapPlayer | and i'd ragequit forever |
21:46.24 | drom | Ðо иÑ! |
21:46.26 | DanzaDelMondo | Vinny is just a Commie |
21:46.35 | drom | Ðо иÑ! Ðо иÑ! Ðо иÑ! |
21:46.36 | DanzaDelMondo | There's a difference between a Commie and a Russkie |
21:46.43 | Monet | I know |
21:46.47 | Cyrannian|Semi | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/71/ValkistairInauguration.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221214505 - yey democracy |
21:46.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Russkies are nostalgic for Commies |
21:46.55 | Wormy_away | I have Russian and Slavic in my Imperios |
21:46.59 | Wormy_away | *me |
21:47.02 | DanzaDelMondo | Cyrannian|Semi: #MakeRepublicGreatAgain |
21:47.14 | OluapPlayer | Valkistair - im da bes |
21:47.17 | Monet | DanzaDelMondo: Well...Vinny does seem to like the Soviet Union |
21:47.27 | DanzaDelMondo | I like the Bauhaus-esque houses in the city |
21:48.02 | OluapPlayer | Very good pic though, good use of the little crowd thingy |
21:48.36 | Cyrannian|Semi | danke, I'll make a couple more images tonight for various fictions, I've been slacking lately |
21:48.44 | OluapPlayer | Yes, yes you have |
21:48.50 | OluapPlayer | you awful entity |
21:48.57 | DanzaDelMondo | But yes Cyrannians use bauhaus |
21:49.01 | DanzaDelMondo | <33333 |
21:49.12 | OluapPlayer | You can't slack, you're my only hope here |
21:49.24 | DanzaDelMondo | Which kinda makes me think of the NCR as space Israel |
21:49.24 | Cyrannian|Semi | quickly googles "bauhaus", but remains confused |
21:49.32 | Wormy_away | But I also have Norse, Irish and Saxon genes |
21:49.34 | DanzaDelMondo | Cyrannian|Semi: An architectural style |
21:49.43 | DanzaDelMondo | Mostly German/Jewish, very common in Israel |
21:49.58 | DanzaDelMondo | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%96%D7%99%D7%90%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%91%D7%90%D7%95%D7%94%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A11.jpg For example |
21:50.06 | DanzaDelMondo | The houses in the city look a bit like his |
21:50.09 | Monet | Ah yes |
21:50.21 | Monet | Was going to say I recall Bauhaus is very popular in Tel Aviv. |
21:50.30 | DanzaDelMondo | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Bauhaus_weimar.jpg Or this |
21:50.32 | Cyrannian|Semi | Ah, so the big buildings with the green roofs? They are based on 1920s New York art deco |
21:50.33 | Monet | Bauhaus/the international style |
21:50.53 | DanzaDelMondo | Ah |
21:51.00 | DanzaDelMondo | >International |
21:51.01 | DanzaDelMondo | >Tel Aviv |
21:51.11 | DanzaDelMondo | My inner /pol/ack is tingling |
21:51.50 | Monet | https://cosmogeny.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/telaviv5.jpg ta-daa |
21:52.04 | Monet | Rememebr imp that International stemmed from Bauhaus thinkers. |
21:52.35 | ImpyDroid | Monet: I cannot help but feel that the Jews are behind this |
21:53.22 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Actually if I remember my studies correctly, Bauhaus spread to America because the Nazis tried to close dow nthe Bauhaus school of design. |
21:53.37 | ImpyDroid | See |
21:53.46 | drom | ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/O47Fwzc.png |
21:54.03 | Monet | I think it might have been too Communistic to their tastes. |
21:54.36 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1456084596120.png |
21:54.56 | ImpyDroid | Now I want to make a Bauhaus-esque house in Spore |
21:55.08 | ImpyDroid | Now which fiction though |
21:55.13 | Monet | Cyrannian: Though the sight of the massive shiny presidential palace seems like a stark contrast to the surrounding buildings |
21:55.42 | ImpyDroid | It is not a gigantic Byzantine-Ottoman church-mosque so not the Divinarium |
21:56.09 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Solarites? |
21:56.25 | Monet | Maybe this new human civ you were working on |
21:56.36 | ImpyDroid | Maybe the NTA in general, the Solarites have more skyscrapers and the like |
21:56.37 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
21:56.45 | ImpyDroid | A Bauhaus ecumenopolis |
21:56.59 | Wormy_away | bbl |
21:57.07 | Monet | Bauhaus is a rather clinical school of design |
21:57.27 | Monet | A time when the coming machine age was hoped ot be celebrated |
21:58.03 | drom | ImpyDroid Monet: What? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Wuppertal_-_Bauhaus_04_ies.jpg |
21:58.36 | ImpyDroid | It would fit into a more idealistic and secular faction |
21:58.44 | drom | You are talking about a home supply store in the size of a planet? |
21:58.47 | Monet | It would, yeah |
21:58.48 | ImpyDroid | Maybe the PAE proper |
21:59.41 | Monet | Well, as nice as the desig nis I recall it recieved a backlash. |
22:00.16 | Monet | People at the time thought International was bland compared to Art Deco. |
22:00.40 | Monet | Actually if I recall I think I tried International-style houses in the DI. Let me find the picture |
22:01.49 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/p9awV6Y.png |
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22:02.08 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/TPPNKay.jpg yes, my favorite character from Star Wars, the Wise Puppet |
22:02.37 | ImpyDroid | drom: kok |
22:02.50 | drom | wot |
22:02.52 | Monet | Imperios: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6c/VencortiumPrimeView.png/revision/latest?cb=20130812145147 down the front, the smaller buildings |
22:03.14 | ImpyDroid | Oh now I remember these |
22:03.38 | Monet | drom: LOving the musculature at the back |
22:03.50 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/L7Dc7Qo.jpg Revolver_Ocelot.jpg |
22:04.17 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
22:04.22 | Monet | ImpyDroid: So maybe there is some Bauhaus in the PAE |
22:04.37 | drom | Monet: I think I did kind of improve the legs a bit. |
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22:05.28 | drom | Even after my ultimate choice to stretch their troso and their legs |
22:05.59 | drom | It balances out the proportions between the arms and the legs. |
22:06.49 | Monet | Head seems a little small |
22:07.05 | drom | Monet: Currently, I'm hitting about 500,000+ polys |
22:08.31 | Monet | ImpyDroid: I wondered lately if MD or other Draconid metropoli could resemble crystal formations gilded with gold. |
22:09.09 | ImpyDroid | Their main form of defense is to blind the invader with sininess |
22:11.02 | Monet | A ity centre made entirely of diamond works for the Gallente. |
22:11.21 | Monet | They stuck their high command centre deep underneath such a thing. |
22:11.50 | Monet | So if you want to kill Gallente high command, you have to pouind the city above int oglittering dust. Which will be a pain |
22:11.56 | Cyrannian | ImpyDroid: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/07/Ezduiin_Incident_01.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221221042 - time for a bloodbath |
22:12.25 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian: EAAAAAAAAAAH |
22:12.30 | ImpyDroid | I CANNOT BREAK HIM |
22:13.03 | Monet | "Nice lungs you got there" |
22:14.29 | drom | Monet: I hate doing heads hur |
22:15.02 | Monet | Yeah I got thinking, if the Draconis are as artistically devleoped as their age and senses imply, neoclassical or baroque architecture might nto do the mjsutice |
22:15.34 | Monet | might not do them justice* |
22:30.55 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fd/ViNavitum2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221223030 LIGHT IS NOT GOOD |
22:33.40 | Monet | Quite slender |
22:33.44 | Monet | Elegant |
22:37.01 | OluapPlayer | dere no light in dat |
22:37.49 | Xho | Kithworto - well |
22:38.11 | Hachiman | Xho: https://youtu.be/HgQEuPw942c?t=8s |
22:38.28 | OluapPlayer | dere even less light in kithworto |
22:38.33 | Xho | Hachiman: Oh god why |
22:40.30 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMtsir0l9k |
22:43.31 | Hachiman | alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright |
22:43.48 | Hachiman | Anywho |
22:48.06 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d5/Ezduiin_Incident02.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221224745 - c |
22:50.58 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: yey |
22:51.08 | OluapPlayer | You got his size right, gud waptor |
22:57.21 | Hachiman | Jesus he is huge |
23:00.25 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/94/Ezduiin_Incident_03.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221225952 - Cythonia turns on the scare factor |
23:01.23 | Hachiman | dem legs |
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23:23.24 | Xho | The_Randomness: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1471274_10151829443421840_1756693246_n.jpg?oh=d84c740141ba934955fef614aa0cba66&oe=5724F898 |
23:23.35 | The_Randomness | rofl |
23:24.12 | The_Randomness | blind pick at its worst in a nutshell |
23:26.00 | OluapPlayer | Cythonia - built for scary seks |
23:26.06 | OluapPlayer | And yes, Thaurlathron is huge |
23:26.17 | OluapPlayer | I mentioned a Mortalitas, who are 4m tall average, only reach his waist |
23:26.27 | OluapPlayer | *reaches |
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