| 00:00.00 | drom | They actually act as chavs, but know how to dress very well. |
| 00:00.36 | Monet | The two guys on the left look pretty slick |
| 00:01.37 | drom | Jepardi: I heard that your equivalent of chavs are called "jonnes"? |
| 00:01.41 | Monet | Only Japan could have a subculture of guys weaing clean-cut suits considered trash. |
| 00:02.47 | Jepardi | drom: They can easily be compared to chavs but they are somewhere between 12-16 year olds. |
| 00:02.59 | drom | Monet: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m0iuasTvHM4/0.jpg |
| 00:03.02 | drom | Mexico |
| 00:03.19 | Monet | Jepardi: Most chavs are that age |
| 00:03.20 | Monet | maybe 17 |
| 00:03.41 | drom | Jepardi: I see, they also usually pretend to be rappers and drink Euroshopper energy drinks |
| 00:04.20 | drom | This one for instance http://naurunappula.com/677445 |
| 00:05.05 | Wormy_STO | drom https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ff/69/dd/ff69ddc2dc729e089e51921b1d5f46ce.jpg |
| 00:05.28 | drom | the fuck |
| 00:05.30 | drom | the cringe |
| 00:05.34 | drom | in this one |
| 00:05.35 | drom | is high |
| 00:05.46 | Wormy_STO | "Give me Xbox or sister's kitty goes in the Blender" |
| 00:06.13 | Spu | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12734117_10153572649842690_6800558199483735883_n.jpg?oh=fbc5aa7f7fd00b668632892ec38575bd&oe=576875CD |
| 00:06.20 | Wormy_STO | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8c/c0/04/8cc00447ab516607cb0d2ec0c80070fd.jpg |
| 00:06.23 | Wormy_STO | full one |
| 00:06.48 | Jepardi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTBaITTp-o |
| 00:07.13 | drom | Wormy_STO: Raggare are essentially greasers but too fond of hard rock and leather jackets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raggare |
| 00:07.33 | Jepardi | We finnish people are a total 10/10 and that video shows it. |
| 00:07.50 | Wormy_STO | they dress like crusties but drive hot rods instead of old bangars |
| 00:07.51 | Monet | Wormy_STO: That boy needs to be introduced to a firm slipper. |
| 00:08.10 | Wormy_STO | Thats the medicine kids need these days |
| 00:08.20 | Wormy_STO | a clip round the ear from the local bobby |
| 00:08.51 | Monet | I think he's too fat gone for a clip o nthe ear |
| 00:09.16 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.19 | Spu | Wormy_STO: "I got my Morgan that loves me. I love having him inside of me. I love swallowing him.. I love his scent.. He is my Captain." |
| 00:09.45 | Wormy_STO | A new advert for letting in our Lord and Saviour? |
| 00:10.25 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.44 | Wormy_STO | calling santa the c word |
| 00:11.04 | Monet | Santa - To the naughty list for you. FOREVER |
| 00:11.26 | drom | Jepardi: One of the things I like about the finnish people is the fact you create good memes |
| 00:11.30 | Monet | Can you imagine if he said this sort of thing to a shopping centre santa. |
| 00:12.23 | drom | Monet Wormy_STO: Another "chav/douche/trash" subculture in Sweden is "brats", spoiled children |
| 00:12.56 | AdmiralPanda | that's not even a subculture, that's just a thing |
| 00:12.58 | drom | Children or young adults from rich top classes that lack independent income and live off their parents money |
| 00:13.17 | Monet | Yeah that's not a subculutre |
| 00:13.18 | drom | It is accounted as a subculture in Sweden |
| 00:13.22 | Wormy_STO | Brats is a term used here |
| 00:13.27 | Monet | That's just shitty parenting. |
| 00:13.46 | Wormy_STO | Insulting santa is just monstrous |
| 00:14.20 | drom | I know that "spoiled children" is not a subculture. But there is a subculture that essentially builds on it |
| 00:14.20 | Monet | Wormy_STO: The article itself mentions this os only the second time he turned up to school that year "reeking of beer and fags" |
| 00:14.33 | drom | Because they wear and behave differenelty |
| 00:14.49 | Wormy_STO | "only", he might be quite a good kid amongst his friends |
| 00:15.51 | Monet | Okay the last bit of the article is funny |
| 00:16.31 | Monet | "He wouldnt ahve done any harm putting out SHannice's kitten in the blender because the electric's been cut off" |
| 00:16.39 | Wormy_STO | lol |
| 00:17.15 | drom | Anyway. The direct equivalent is called "kickers" |
| 00:17.42 | Monet | Parenting's a tough job. |
| 00:18.55 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.20 | Wormy_STO | another SAD day is upon this |
| 00:20.40 | Wormy_ | *us |
| 00:21.59 | Spu | It's only sad if you let it be sad |
| 00:22.00 | Wormy_ | Right, back to writing fiction |
| 00:22.04 | drom | Other worldwide subcultures you can easily see in Sweden beside HBTQ: goth, hippies and skinheads/boneheads (1% bikers) |
| 00:22.13 | Spu | For example I intend to drink myself silly enough the point that I forget it's today |
| 00:22.31 | Monet | It's hard ot say who is more questionable for me: The upper class old money who don't care for the plight of the working man, or the absent minded new-money who see a gold-plated phone, a kilo of jewelery with tracksuits and champagne mixed with coke as "classy" |
| 00:22.46 | Wormy_ | I'm not really sad, I think part of the reason I am single is because I avoid people |
| 00:22.55 | drom | So am I |
| 00:23.27 | Spu | I'm single because everyone looks at me and thinks I'm a nutcase |
| 00:23.30 | Spu | They are right however |
| 00:23.44 | ZF_BF2 | Spu: I know that feeling bro. |
| 00:23.48 | Monet | At least old money know that money doesn't grow on trees and are usually brought up with seome degree of manners. |
| 00:23.51 | Wormy_ | I'm just too weird for people |
| 00:24.13 | drom | My soul longs for someone to live together with me, but I consider myself not ripe for that. Neither do I plan to find someone due to this being the last year of before moving to an other city and study. |
| 00:24.36 | Wormy_ | Get your studies done first, they are more important imo |
| 00:24.50 | drom | Otherwise it'd suck out my time that'd otherwise used to studies and they are easily in your way. |
| 00:24.53 | Wormy_ | I may seek someoone when I have done mine |
| 00:25.22 | The_Randomness | I have no romantic interests or desires, can't say much more than that |
| 00:25.45 | Wormy_ | Trouble I'm probably going to end up in an awful job and want to avoid people even more |
| 00:26.02 | Spu | I know I've found the one when they have the same choice of pizza toppings as me |
| 00:26.06 | Monet | Honestly...same. A circle of good friends is good enough for me. |
| 00:26.29 | drom | I know I've found the one when they have the same humor and interests as me |
| 00:26.41 | drom | That said, computer engineering |
| 00:26.46 | Wormy_ | I would hate to die knowing that 4 billion years of evolution stops here. |
| 00:27.11 | drom | I mean like, how likely are you to find a romantic interest in computer engineering? |
| 00:27.21 | drom | classes |
| 00:27.22 | drom | that is |
| 00:27.26 | Wormy_ | you might find a geek chick |
| 00:27.40 | Monet | Loads of those on my course |
| 00:27.46 | Technobliterator | drom, what makes you think there are no women in computer engineering ._. |
| 00:27.52 | Spu | drom and jo |
| 00:27.53 | Spu | i ship |
| 00:27.53 | drom | Then we break up because we spend our time on playing on each our own computer |
| 00:28.11 | drom | Such is life |
| 00:28.33 | Technobliterator | .___. |
| 00:28.34 | drom | Technobliterator: Most of the programming classes I've went to are 100% men |
| 00:28.35 | Spu | I'd say I'm too emotionally damaged as an individual to consider a relationship |
| 00:28.44 | drom | 22 attended the classes, all men |
| 00:28.47 | Technobliterator | That's very different from here |
| 00:28.57 | Wormy_ | Jo: In all the courses I've been on, there were few girls |
| 00:28.59 | Spu | Generally bottling up one's anger and whatnot tends to break you down from the inside |
| 00:29.09 | drom | Last year, there was only one girl |
| 00:29.10 | drom | ONE |
| 00:29.35 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 00:29.40 | Technobliterator | that's not the case in the course I'm doing |
| 00:29.44 | Technobliterator | But I'm probably lucky |
| 00:30.11 | Spu | Relationships don't tend have any value nowadays |
| 00:30.24 | The_Randomness | lel |
| 00:30.37 | drom | Also, computer engineers spend most of their time on their computers rather than socializing |
| 00:30.54 | drom | Our computer is our one and the only love |
| 00:30.57 | Wormy_ | Use of "z" saddens the worm |
| 00:31.00 | Technobliterator | that is an unfair stereotype |
| 00:31.30 | drom | Zuch iz life |
| 00:32.11 | Monet | I think a lot of the girls on my animation cousemight be here for the concept art and modelling |
| 00:32.33 | drom | Wormy_: I don't know why, but I find it easier to comprehend words that should use "s" instead of "z". |
| 00:33.01 | drom | And it being easier to write them |
| 00:33.02 | Wormy_ | Thats because "z" looks lazy |
| 00:33.23 | drom | sazzy |
| 00:33.41 | Spu | e-z |
| 00:34.00 | drom | yeah, z is ez |
| 00:34.11 | drom | es |
| 00:34.58 | drom | Well. Time to go and get resting |
| 00:35.25 | Wormy_ | Goodnight. Don't let the bed bugs bite. |
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| 01:08.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:08.48 | Monet | hi |
| 01:13.40 | Hellrock | Hi |
| 01:19.30 | Hellrock | To be honest, I just go on the IRC if I'm inactive anywhere else, but doing this everyday just feels a bit pestering, would it not? |
| 01:20.53 | DrodoEmpire | Er, no |
| 01:21.01 | DrodoEmpire | Going on IRC daily isn't pestering |
| 01:21.06 | DrodoEmpire | Its fairly normal. XD |
| 01:21.28 | DrodoEmpire | Most people here go on for a few minutes or hours daily |
| 01:21.42 | DrodoEmpire | I keep it open in the background when I'm on my personal compuer |
| 01:21.45 | DrodoEmpire | *computer |
| 01:22.05 | DrodoEmpire | You yourself have a tendency for coming on during the slow hours though |
| 01:23.24 | Hellrock | Yeah, I've heard that most of you are in a different timezone. I'm just chillin' here in the distant West. |
| 01:26.55 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 01:27.18 | DrodoEmpire | I'm on the extreme east. Nova Scotia. :p |
| 01:28.12 | Hellrock | Ey, we seem to be on both sides of the US :/ |
| 01:28.29 | Hellrock | Actually, either side. |
| 01:29.12 | DrodoEmpire | Well no I'm not American XD |
| 01:29.24 | DrodoEmpire | Canadian, but same continent |
| 01:29.39 | Hellrock | Well technically you're next to the right side. In Canada. |
| 01:32.16 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 01:32.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Zilla |
| 01:35.50 | Hellrock | Hello Zilla |
| 01:37.49 | Technobliterator | Hellrock, I am on the IRC 24/7, like I legit never leave it, because of how my client is set up |
| 01:37.53 | Technobliterator | So no, it's totally fine |
| 01:43.18 | Zillafire101 | Oh, hello. |
| 01:44.18 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 02:11.35 | Hellrock | TekDroid.exe has stopped working |
| 02:12.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah his connection' |
| 02:12.49 | DrodoEmpire | *'s awful hostile |
| 02:12.59 | DrodoEmpire | Livens up the chat during quiet hours though |
| 02:13.01 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 02:15.06 | Hellrock | Oh yeah, I forgot to say this. |
| 02:15.32 | Hellrock | I heard that Darkspore is getting shut down, making it unplayable, so right now, we can talk about how this will affect the community. |
| 02:16.34 | Zillafire101 | What? Why? |
| 02:16.55 | DrodoEmpire | Darkspore? Oh wow, *that* game |
| 02:16.57 | DrodoEmpire | I never played it |
| 02:17.01 | DrodoEmpire | I assumed it was a bomb |
| 02:17.08 | Hellrock | For me, I have a conundrum where an old game will hit me with nostalgia, so I'd re-install the game and play it, then suddenly get bored of it. I honestly don't care about Darkspore, but it's really uncompassionate to neglect preserving a unique game, and if Darkspore were to ever strike me with nostalgia, I would be upset if I couldn't play it. |
| 02:17.34 | DrodoEmpire | Well its no longer profitable, they have to cut it loose at *some* point |
| 02:17.39 | DrodoEmpire | Companies aren't charities |
| 02:17.45 | DrodoEmpire | Don't think it'll much effect *this* community, anyway |
| 02:17.53 | Zillafire101 | Ah yes, money. The only thing EA cares about. |
| 02:18.03 | DrodoEmpire | *only thing any company cares about |
| 02:18.03 | Hellrock | Zillafire101 : The game is online-only, so it runs on a server probably to prevent piracy. Because no one plays Darkspore, and it was removed on Steam and Origin, they will now shut down the servers. |
| 02:18.06 | DrodoEmpire | At the end of the day |
| 02:18.14 | DrodoEmpire | Get over it. :p |
| 02:18.23 | DrodoEmpire | Be thankful they held onto it for *this* long |
| 02:18.29 | Zillafire101 | True, but you can atleast treat your customer well. |
| 02:18.34 | DrodoEmpire | Probably hasn't had a big player base for a while now |
| 02:18.36 | DrodoEmpire | They *have* |
| 02:18.38 | Zillafire101 | Which EA doesn't do. |
| 02:18.50 | DrodoEmpire | Do you realize that they've probably been losing money on darkspore for years now? :p |
| 02:19.00 | Hellrock | Yeah, but the game was pretty unique, so they should've made it private. |
| 02:19.11 | Zillafire101 | Serves them right then. I hope they lose a lot more in the future. |
| 02:19.11 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe, but that'd be one hell of a patch |
| 02:19.17 | Hellrock | Just because it doesn't make you money doesn't mean you should wipe it from existence. |
| 02:19.22 | Zillafire101 | It will teach them better buisness practices. |
| 02:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | Right, so Zilla I'm not siding with EA, but they left this game *open for years*, likely with a tiny playerbase |
| 02:19.43 | DrodoEmpire | Its okay to be a critic |
| 02:19.50 | DrodoEmpire | Its not okay to be an irrational retard |
| 02:20.03 | Hellrock | It would be tough to make it playable offline, but it's better then having nothing and no plans to have anything at all. |
| 02:20.04 | DrodoEmpire | Especially when faced with a case that directly contradicts your narrative |
| 02:20.04 | Zillafire101 | Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm still butthurt about their slander of Battlefront. |
| 02:20.12 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, sorry too |
| 02:20.31 | Hellrock | I prefer to preserve games, even when no one plays them. |
| 02:20.41 | DrodoEmpire | Which costs money |
| 02:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | But you're right, its a nice thought |
| 02:21.18 | Hellrock | I don't really see how abandoning a game even if you can still play costs money, but it's probably better than nothing. |
| 02:22.04 | Hellrock | It's like, putting your son in a wheelchair, or just shooting him and waiting until nobody knows about him. |
| 02:22.06 | Monet | They need ot pay programmers to adapt it to work entirely offline |
| 02:22.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:22.26 | Zillafire101 | I should become an internet reviewer ala Nostalgia critic and vent my rage to the interwebs. Perhaps that would make me feel better. |
| 02:22.34 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be an *enormous* patch. |
| 02:22.49 | Hellrock | I kinda see that, Maxis was shut down after all, so they had no programmers to make it offline. |
| 02:23.06 | Hellrock | But they didn't have a plan in the beginning AT ALL to preserve it. |
| 02:23.21 | Hellrock | So it's dead. |
| 02:23.49 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:23.58 | Hellrock | TF2, for example, uses community servers, so if the Valve servers get shut down, people would still play it if they want to. |
| 02:24.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but pretty sure DS worked different |
| 02:24.34 | DrodoEmpire | TF2 is different in that you also hosted a single game of it |
| 02:24.53 | Hellrock | That's practice mode, isn't it? So wouldn't it still use a valve server? |
| 02:24.56 | DrodoEmpire | I'm under the impression DarkSpore was either an MMO or a game that didn't allow you to host single game |
| 02:24.58 | DrodoEmpire | *games |
| 02:25.36 | Hellrock | EA has a tendency of preventing their games from being playable when pirated. |
| 02:25.45 | DrodoEmpire | ...No, I mean it was a game where each match was self-contained and furthermore the hardware to host one's own servers was available and easily used |
| 02:25.58 | Hellrock | True that. |
| 02:34.50 | Hellrock | There is a quote about this. "(The) most important aspect of a game (is) being able to play it!" |
| 02:36.38 | Hellrock | Also, EA probably has a lot of money, that, and Maxis should've made plans to make Darkspore playable when they shut the servers down. |
| 02:37.56 | Technobliterator | It's funny how they still earn money from Spore |
| 02:38.03 | Technobliterator | Darkspore was a terrible idea, however |
| 02:40.59 | Monet | Even if it did, it's a trickle now compared to what it was several years ago. |
| 02:42.09 | Hellrock | If the Darkspore servers are only meant to have you login to servers, then cracking the game might be possible. |
| 02:47.19 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knq9zPQQ2D4 |
| 02:52.46 | Hellrock | Gotta bounce. G'night. |
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| 03:34.45 | The_Randomness | mfw I realize that I completely forgot to eat dinner |
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| 15:57.44 | Ghel | ~hello |
| 15:57.44 | infobot | Howdy Bub |
| 15:58.11 | drom | How was the date, infobot? |
| 15:58.57 | Wormy_ | ~marry me |
| 15:58.57 | infobot | but I've been playing The Sims all day, and I've finally got enough friendship points to propose to someone else... |
| 15:59.32 | Wormy_ | Of course, as a bot, he will have virch friends |
| 15:59.40 | drom | IT IS A SHE |
| 15:59.43 | Wormy_ | she, I mean |
| 16:00.00 | Wormy_ | Actually I think infobot is genderfluid |
| 16:00.11 | Wormy_ | ~genderfluid |
| 16:03.11 | drom | ~gender |
| 16:03.11 | infobot | I'm male |
| 16:03.31 | Wormy_ | ~pregnant |
| 16:03.31 | infobot | Yes, wormy_, and it's your child. |
| 16:03.54 | Wormy_ | ~valentine |
| 16:04.02 | Wormy_ | ~love you |
| 16:04.02 | infobot | If you love you so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 16:04.23 | Wormy_ | ~you are rude |
| 16:04.23 | infobot | Wormy_: what are you talking about? |
| 16:05.10 | Wormy_ | ~kiss me |
| 16:05.10 | infobot | ACTION forces wormy_ to give Wormy_ a big kiss on the forehead |
| 16:21.41 | drom | Wait, are you drunk again Wormy_? |
| 16:22.15 | Wormy_ | Absolutely not. |
| 16:23.26 | Wormy_ | In top form for fiction. |
| 16:23.50 | drom | Good |
| 16:24.58 | drom | Hachiman: One of the best parts of Homeworld is the cutscenes |
| 16:26.03 | drom | Come to think of it, any game published by Relic always have good cutscenes. They always give spine chills |
| 16:26.57 | Hachiman | Eh I would argue against that |
| 16:27.25 | Hachiman | After all, Relic is responsible for Force Commander Indrick Boreale |
| 16:27.46 | Hachiman | And in turn all the other awful Dawn of War memes hur |
| 16:28.20 | drom | hur |
| 16:28.40 | drom | Also a giant space ship in form of a "Head & Shoulders" schampoo bottle |
| 16:29.32 | Monet | Soulstorm was a black mark |
| 16:29.43 | Monet | Look at DoW II |
| 16:29.52 | drom | Wormy_: The intersection of our stories make me think of this: https://youtu.be/e4ut7ecedG4?t=10m22s |
| 16:32.24 | Wormy_ | interesting |
| 16:32.31 | Wormy_ | bbl dog walk |
| 16:42.32 | drom | Xho_Away Wormy_Away Monet: http://i.imgur.com/7mJEdkI.gifv |
| 16:44.12 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic/Government/Election_of_07_NE#Results - Suddenly a new President |
| 16:44.28 | OluapPlayer | All hail President Gorf |
| 16:44.48 | drom | >"Colder relations with autocratic states." |
| 16:45.13 | drom | DCP - You want dis? |
| 16:45.41 | drom | Gorf, the President of Gorf |
| 16:49.00 | Hachiman | Ooh Valkistair is now President |
| 16:50.23 | Monet | Interesting results |
| 16:50.30 | Monet | Wait, how's this going ot affect Andromeda? |
| 16:51.52 | Monet | I'm not opposed, it might actually be interesting to see how a Republic leadership desiring to distnace itself from nations with more autocratic systems will fare internationally. |
| 16:57.11 | drom | Nomatari Sovereignty is an "authoritarian republic" and has already colonies in Cyrannus |
| 17:00.06 | drom | So I'm indeed curious on how hellish their relations will become |
| 17:00.31 | drom | Considering that NS' colonies is located in presence of the Gigamatrix |
| 17:02.00 | Cyrannian | The Republic does not have formal relations with the NS for them to become hellish doe |
| 17:02.55 | drom | Huh. I get the impression of Valkstair saying "Nah, let them Neradians take them" |
| 17:03.38 | Cyrannian | Valkistair - https://media.giphy.com/media/SHEoz82qdKfBK/giphy.gif |
| 17:04.35 | drom | Indeed |
| 17:08.18 | drom | Hachiman: TekDroid Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJ1fZTJuwU |
| 17:11.23 | drom | https://i.gyazo.com/33bc077f9a33c672907b2d129615a10d.png dakka |
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| 17:18.52 | drom | https://youtu.be/K23uRoCZoNs |
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| 17:19.06 | drom | Hai randum |
| 17:19.11 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 17:19.17 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 17:19.19 | The_Randomness | the dum is spreading |
| 17:20.26 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 17:21.37 | drom | The_Randomness dum as dum does |
| 17:27.41 | drom | Monet Hachiman: Oh I like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbXYmmsARe8 |
| 17:28.08 | drom | The theme of DoK fit borderline with my vision of NS |
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| 17:36.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 17:36.43 | Monet | hello |
| 17:37.43 | drom | hello |
| 17:38.20 | drom | Hachiman Monet TekDroid: https://twitter.com/HomeworldGame/status/583355020151672832 |
| 17:39.26 | The_Randomness | Banana for scale |
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| 17:40.09 | drom | Ayy imgur |
| 18:25.25 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic#Executive_Branch - Updated |
| 18:26.14 | *** join/#sporewiki dino82_ (52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239) |
| 18:26.55 | dino82_ | hello! |
| 18:27.02 | Cyrannian | Dino! |
| 18:27.33 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 18:27.51 | Monet | Hi DIno |
| 18:30.03 | dino82_ | How is all dong? |
| 18:31.48 | Ghel | I'm okay; how about you? |
| 18:31.52 | dino82_ | nice updats all! |
| 18:31.57 | dino82_ | Oh the Voidstalker is open!!!!! |
| 18:32.29 | dino82_ | and a new president of the Republic? An Imperial-Draconid Cold War? I missed a lot this week in my absence! Very nice! |
| 18:34.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hi dino :D |
| 18:36.01 | dino82_ | Hi! |
| 18:38.27 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino |
| 18:38.46 | dino82_ | Hi Oluap! |
| 18:39.05 | Vincent20100 | Hi Dino! |
| 18:39.07 | dino82_ | @oluap: this one looks awesome: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Choronzon.png |
| 18:39.15 | dino82_ | how did you get the wing coloration to be in differant coloration then the armor? |
| 18:40.07 | OluapPlayer | The body is coloured black, the armor is coloured purple |
| 18:40.17 | dino82_ | Oh like that, looks stunning! |
| 18:40.25 | OluapPlayer | Thanks |
| 18:41.53 | Monet | dino82_: The Imperial-Draconid cold war was something published recently, but the idea is its been going on for a while. |
| 18:41.53 | dino82_ | :D |
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| 18:42.12 | dino82_ | @monet: Nicely written! Sounds promising and dangerous for hte stabilityof the Cluster |
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| 18:53.35 | ImpyDroid | Hiya |
| 18:53.59 | ImpyDroid | Not sure what this girl even has in her mind |
| 18:53.59 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:54.01 | Monet | hi |
| 18:54.02 | ImpyDroid | Hi dino |
| 18:54.05 | dino82_ | what girl? |
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| 18:56.16 | Wormy_ | Black screen of death is bloody annoying |
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| 18:57.35 | Xho | Back from the abyss of the outside |
| 18:57.48 | ImpyDroid | dino82_: Ekaterina |
| 18:57.58 | ImpyDroid | Or Catherine |
| 18:58.09 | ImpyDroid | Like I am not sure what she wants from me |
| 18:58.15 | ImpyDroid | How was Valentine BTW? |
| 18:58.41 | dino82_ | Ah ok, perhaps something to do with valatines days? |
| 18:58.53 | Cyrannian | Went alright |
| 18:59.10 | ImpyDroid | dino82_: Well yeah |
| 18:59.23 | ImpyDroid | Anyway she does not seem to be burning with passion |
| 18:59.28 | dino82_ | @Impy: Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:59.39 | drom | Church of Satanism is a curious ocultic religion |
| 18:59.41 | ImpyDroid | But does not have a real distaste towards me either |
| 18:59.50 | ImpyDroid | drom: It is not really occult |
| 18:59.56 | ImpyDroid | LaVeyan Satanism that is |
| 19:00.16 | drom | ImpyDroid: I meant Satanism in general. It has lot of forms |
| 19:00.22 | ImpyDroid | It is basically a chaotic neutral religious philosophy or something |
| 19:00.35 | ImpyDroid | Like "how to be a bad guy but still be sort of okay" |
| 19:00.40 | drom | Mainly because the bible is easy to intepret in many different manys |
| 19:00.47 | Xho | Satanism is ++ |
| 19:00.56 | ImpyDroid | I was about to utter a modified takbir |
| 19:00.59 | drom | Teenagers who are touched by it often take the message in the bible too literally |
| 19:01.01 | ImpyDroid | But no I won't |
| 19:01.14 | Xho | So I saw the new Deadpool film |
| 19:01.19 | ImpyDroid | Must resist the urge to takbir |
| 19:01.32 | drom | How about I jihad you |
| 19:01.32 | Xho | I'd give it 8.5/10 |
| 19:01.48 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Why am I not surprised hur |
| 19:02.04 | drom | many ways* |
| 19:02.09 | drom | fuck it |
| 19:02.21 | ImpyDroid | dino82_: Anyway we kiss and all that, and seem fairly friendly and chatty, but at the same time she remains reserved |
| 19:02.24 | ImpyDroid | I am confused |
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| 19:03.09 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of takbir and Satanism, I considered picking up a religion |
| 19:03.20 | ImpyDroid | consider even |
| 19:03.26 | drom | ImpyDroid: It doesn't surprise me that satanism was allegedly a thing among French noblemen around Ludwig XIV's time. Considering that they parodied EVERYTHING |
| 19:03.42 | ImpyDroid | drom: Typical French aristocratic behaviour |
| 19:03.54 | ZF101 | Hello everyone. |
| 19:04.00 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Halcyon_Scheme#Ethics_of_Murder - new section, featuring an (almost-)title drop. |
| 19:04.02 | ImpyDroid | There should be a Marie Antoinette expy in SporeWik |
| 19:04.02 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 19:04.55 | dino82_ | @impy: hmm, but sounds like a great start! Perhaps she is cautios or so! |
| 19:05.12 | drom | That said, Satanism is essentially a protest against mainstream religions' ethics, usually those that "condemn the humans' natural instincts". Christanity is the central target of the protest. |
| 19:05.16 | ImpyDroid | Probably |
| 19:06.01 | Cyrannian | Ghel: Ooh reading it now. |
| 19:06.14 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12189021_10154336754955476_3129975402683445802_n.png?oh=66011b86c405b866ff7af2a57c5f0e8e&oe=57240D58 |
| 19:06.46 | drom | what a waste |
| 19:07.05 | ImpyDroid | Lik3 |
| 19:07.07 | ImpyDroid | Like |
| 19:08.10 | ImpyDroid | I may not be sure what kind of God there is but the more I think about it, the more I realize there probably is one |
| 19:08.16 | ImpyDroid | Or at least should be |
| 19:08.45 | ZF101 | I don't believe in God per sa, though I do believe that there is some great divine force guideing us. |
| 19:08.49 | ImpyDroid | Like, a rationally structured universe demands a creator of this structure |
| 19:09.10 | Xho | THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE BUT THE COLD AND INFINITE NOTHINGNESS TO CRADLE THE MATTER OF OUR CORPSES FOREVER |
| 19:09.20 | Xho | Just my two cents |
| 19:09.25 | drom | Crammed a 1000+ word essay about Satanism's history and ethics, next up I need to write their rites, holidays and rites. Then an analysis and a text of judgement. |
| 19:09.34 | ImpyDroid | Xho: SOMEONE MADE ALL THIS NOTHING THOUGH MUST BE A PRETTY SAD GUY |
| 19:09.35 | drom | Fun stuff |
| 19:09.42 | Xho | Krath - i am not sad :c |
| 19:10.03 | ImpyDroid | Sad people usually make something sad hur |
| 19:10.18 | drom | ImpyDroid: Satanism's view on gods: there is no god, it is simply a word invented by the humans ourselves. |
| 19:10.22 | Xho | That's my entire existence |
| 19:10.58 | drom | God is a force of nature, Satan is also a force of nature, they serve as weights countering each others' powers. |
| 19:11.42 | ImpyDroid | Now which religion though |
| 19:12.04 | drom | Other than that, their actual "god" is the follower's own self. |
| 19:12.42 | drom | To put that in a perspective, Xho's "god" is Xho, my "god" is myself. Your god is you. |
| 19:12.54 | ImpyDroid | That is solipsism |
| 19:13.00 | ImpyDroid | Like Buddhism is a bit cool but too pacifistic for me and does not interest me so much |
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| 19:13.24 | Sovnarkom | Hello. |
| 19:13.26 | Xho | Satanism's rather interesting as far as philosophies go |
| 19:13.28 | ImpyDroid | Islam is interesting and has a lot of cool idea but is associated with social stigma, also I like pork |
| 19:13.40 | ImpyDroid | So probably some Christian church |
| 19:13.41 | Ghel | So you're planning to pick a religion based on what interests you, not on what you believe is right? |
| 19:13.51 | ImpyDroid | Ghel: What feels right hur |
| 19:13.56 | Xho | dat not how religion works u |
| 19:13.59 | drom | ImpyDroid: Considering each individual's self your own god, is called "solipsism"? |
| 19:14.18 | drom | Cause I've never heard of that word |
| 19:14.35 | ImpyDroid | Islam is very cool but it has too much bloody history behind it for me to feel it is right |
| 19:14.49 | Cyrannian | I think it's good to critically analyse religions and pick the one that feels right for you |
| 19:15.08 | OluapPlayer | nuuu |
| 19:15.08 | OluapPlayer | Imp is gonna become a zealot |
| 19:15.10 | ImpyDroid | I am not a militant man, and even those Muslims that believe in peace have to be militant in their beliefs, metaphorically so |
| 19:15.26 | ImpyDroid | Then again those Muslims I knew were pretty chill fellows |
| 19:15.33 | ImpyDroid | Maybe just a stereotype hur |
| 19:15.49 | Xho | ImpyDroid: Go for some outlandish religion |
| 19:15.52 | Xho | Like Pastafarianism |
| 19:15.53 | drom | Cyrannian: Keep in mind you might want to include forms of said religion, because they usually hold each their own interpretation |
| 19:16.01 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Muism hur |
| 19:16.13 | ImpyDroid | Anyway |
| 19:16.17 | Cyrannian | Can't go wrong with Jediism |
| 19:16.24 | ImpyDroid | Protestants are just plain dumb hur |
| 19:16.28 | Sovnarkom | Zoroastrianism, amirite? |
| 19:16.29 | ImpyDroid | "GOD HATES FAGS" |
| 19:16.36 | Xho | Cyrannian: fuk da jedi |
| 19:16.41 | Ghel | I agree with Cyr. |
| 19:16.48 | drom | Protestants are the reason why athestism exists |
| 19:16.50 | ImpyDroid | Sovnarkom: I like pilaf but I am not Iranian so probably not |
| 19:16.56 | ImpyDroid | Catholics are very cool people |
| 19:17.02 | drom | atheistism* |
| 19:17.13 | ImpyDroid | I like their belief in evolution hur |
| 19:17.22 | The_Randomness | I too enjoy making broad generalizations based off of negative impressions of other things |
| 19:17.30 | ImpyDroid | "Right, GOD SPECIFICALLY MADE EVERYTHING SO MONKEYS WOULD BECOME SMART" |
| 19:17.35 | The_Randomness | This chat has turned into pure cancer without my help, wtf |
| 19:17.49 | drom | I started it |
| 19:17.53 | drom | You lose, I win |
| 19:17.54 | Xho | The_Randomness: gg random no re |
| 19:17.57 | ImpyDroid | The_Randomness: Feel religion overtaking you |
| 19:18.08 | Cyrannian | I'm cultural Catholic on account of the whole Irish thing I have going on, but I worship Athies, the Lord of Athiests |
| 19:18.19 | The_Randomness | I'm not even religious and I'm slightly offended by this |
| 19:18.21 | ImpyDroid | Protestants are chill but their belief in lack of religious authority is a problem |
| 19:18.25 | Xho | I was raised Catholic then I started to hate existence |
| 19:18.27 | ImpyDroid | They have hordes of zealots |
| 19:18.32 | Xho | And boom, Xho was made |
| 19:18.33 | ImpyDroid | "GOD HATES FAGS" |
| 19:18.42 | Sovnarkom | I follow the Imperial Cult. |
| 19:18.42 | The_Randomness | ImpyDroid: That's not unique to their religion |
| 19:18.54 | Sovnarkom | Long live the God-Emperor of Mankind. |
| 19:19.15 | drom | ImpyDroid: COMPARE GERMANIC PROTESTANTISM WITH AMERICAN PROTESTANTISM, I'LL ALLAH ACKBAR THE FUCK OFF YOUR HERETIC ASS |
| 19:19.37 | ImpyDroid | The_Randomness: Well there is also Sunni Islam with the similar disorganization and hordes of zealots |
| 19:19.39 | Cyrannian | But yes, a conversation about religion involving people from around the world? What could go wrong? |
| 19:19.40 | The_Randomness | I'll just leave you guys to your circlejerking about religion |
| 19:19.40 | Monet | Cyrannian: Wait...dat not how athism works is it? |
| 19:20.18 | drom | ATHEISTISM |
| 19:20.28 | Monet | ImpyDroid: "god hates fags isn't mainstream Protestantism |
| 19:20.28 | Xho | The_Randomness: wat u dunt want to be in the middle |
| 19:20.44 | Monet | Its some wierd Baptist sect. |
| 19:20.49 | drom | Monet: More like american protestantism |
| 19:20.53 | Monet | WHo apaprently thing kits cool to crash on funeral ceremonies |
| 19:21.17 | ImpyDroid | drom: If I become a protestant I will likely become a Korean Protestant hur |
| 19:21.19 | Monet | I was raised Anglican |
| 19:21.21 | The_Randomness | drom: ??? |
| 19:21.23 | Monet | One of the better kidns of protestant. |
| 19:21.36 | Xho | Cyrannian: I'm pretty sure this was how Esperanto was formed, people having a conversation about the best language |
| 19:21.40 | Ghel | drom: So is Atheistism the belief that atheists are gods? |
| 19:21.46 | Technobliterator | ._. |
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| 19:21.58 | Technobliterator | Do we...really need this discussion |
| 19:22.04 | Xho | Atheism's meaning is in the word itself, dam u lot |
| 19:22.14 | drom | Ghel: I thought you all misspelled "atheistism" |
| 19:22.32 | Monet | Technobliterator: It's pretty civil so far |
| 19:23.02 | Technobliterator | not really |
| 19:23.08 | AndroImp | Technobliterator: I am considering choosing a religion |
| 19:23.09 | Xho | But why are we having this conversation in the first place |
| 19:23.11 | drom | I flipped out that I thought people were misspelling "atheistism" and mistok it as a religion |
| 19:23.18 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 19:23.22 | The_Randomness | Civil in comparison to flame wars on the internet, yes. |
| 19:23.23 | AndroImp | Xho: Because of me thinking I could have a religion |
| 19:23.28 | Cyrannian | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Cat_eating_a_rabbit.jpeg - Everyone, stop what you're doing and look at this picture of a cat eating a rabbit. |
| 19:23.29 | AndroImp | #Narcissism |
| 19:23.38 | Xho | I don't think 'choosing' religion is actually the right way to go about it |
| 19:23.47 | The_Randomness | Cyrannian: A fitting fate for such vile beasts |
| 19:23.59 | Xho | You find religion, choosing it doesn't really show commitment to one from the outset |
| 19:23.59 | OluapPlayer | y post dead rabbits |
| 19:24.05 | AndroImp | Xho: I do not have the benefit of being raised in some religion |
| 19:24.06 | ZF101 | No wonder Zillum eats kitties. They ate his pet bunny. |
| 19:24.12 | AndroImp | I was kind of raised atheist |
| 19:24.13 | Ghel | The_Randomness is secretly a carrot. |
| 19:24.14 | drom | Cyrannian: Hachiman's offended |
| 19:24.14 | ZF101 | It's venegance. |
| 19:24.28 | Monet | So The_Randomness: That's not nice my family has three rabbits. |
| 19:24.28 | The_Randomness | Ghel: Close, I'm a potato. |
| 19:24.40 | Cyrannian | Ask yourself, why do rabbits need to eat carrots? Surely in order to see more clearly while murdering you in your sleep. |
| 19:24.40 | Ghel | Thats |
| 19:24.45 | Xho | Religion's a belief, you don't 'choose' beliefs, you naturalise yourself towards something similar to a belief and then it rolls on from there |
| 19:24.47 | Ghel | That's what all the carrots say. |
| 19:25.09 | Monet | Cyrannian: Truth is you shouldn't regularly feed a carrot to your rabbit. |
| 19:25.17 | AndroImp | Xho: I dunno my only religion-related belief is that some sort of God exists |
| 19:25.21 | Xho | I can't go 'oh look I'm suddenly Muslim' because I like their scriptures, I'd have to find myself actually believing what it says as the right path |
| 19:25.31 | drom | Ghel The_Randomness: Carrots and Potatos are root veggies |
| 19:25.38 | The_Randomness | True |
| 19:25.42 | Xho | Then you're probably Agnostic then |
| 19:25.54 | AndroImp | Not agnostic though, not anymore |
| 19:26.02 | AndroImp | Agnostic implies not knowing |
| 19:26.10 | Ghel | AndroImp: Agnostic theism is a thing. |
| 19:26.20 | AndroImp | Now I am pretty sure a creator exists |
| 19:26.22 | Cyrannian | You don't need to join an organised religion in order to believe in God. |
| 19:26.22 | Monet | Rabbits *love* cabbage. |
| 19:26.23 | AndroImp | Which one tho |
| 19:26.40 | Xho | That's also true |
| 19:26.48 | Xho | Organised religion is a massive mess anyway |
| 19:26.49 | OluapPlayer | Very boring afternoon today |
| 19:26.52 | drom | I'm strictly agnostic. |
| 19:27.17 | Technobliterator | I'm irreligious strictly, and have no beliefs beyond tha |
| 19:27.27 | Xho | If you want to believe in something I wouldn't go and join an organised religion |
| 19:27.28 | drom | Because I've got no shit to prove or reason to say that my faith is vaild and true. |
| 19:27.29 | Technobliterator | It's not really worth discussing |
| 19:27.36 | AndroImp | Organized religion I think is a good thing dunno |
| 19:27.57 | AndroImp | Like it helped organize society and still helps to do so now |
| 19:28.02 | Xho | There was this sociological study I looked into arguing that human error screws up the concept of religion proportionate to the situation |
| 19:28.07 | Monet | AndroImp: Cyrannian's right. You don't have to baptise yourself in order to geel the christian teachings are right for you. |
| 19:28.11 | AndroImp | Spurred progress sometimes too |
| 19:28.15 | Technobliterator | and continues to help radicalise people |
| 19:28.16 | Technobliterator | 8D |
| 19:28.22 | drom | AndroImp: Ouch http://allhdpics.com/wp-content/uploads/wallpapers/wp8/agnostic%20wallpaper-500x313.jpg |
| 19:28.25 | Monet | AndroImp: Remember there are many buddhists who don't commit to a life of aesceticism. |
| 19:28.37 | AndroImp | Technobliterator: Thing is, DISorganised religion is more radicalised |
| 19:28.47 | AndroImp | As I said, Protestants and Muslims |
| 19:28.59 | Monet | Technobliterator: Oh religion is but one of many ways people can be radicalised. |
| 19:29.16 | Xho | Think about the main thoughts of Christianity towards homosexuality, it was more than likely frowned upon due to the situation at the time |
| 19:29.32 | Ghel | AndroImp: Are you suggesting that it's a good thing for you to join an organised religion because, if you don't, you're more likely to become radicalised? |
| 19:29.38 | Xho | Most of the more controversial teachings of religion were driven by human survival, things which now aren't relevant |
| 19:29.57 | AndroImp | Ghel: Well not me in particular but people in general yes |
| 19:30.07 | drom | Ghel: Came to think of it, ISIS is organized radicalisation |
| 19:30.14 | Ghel | Sure, but this discussion is about you picking a religion. |
| 19:30.19 | AndroImp | It will also help to ward off these crazy Baptists who keep trying to convert me |
| 19:30.25 | Technobliterator | *mercernary group posing as organized radicalisation |
| 19:30.25 | Monet | AndroImp: The thing is about christianity, protestantism especially, is its constantly diversifying itself. Look at the CHurch of the Latter-Day Saints. |
| 19:30.26 | AndroImp | If this is about me in particular |
| 19:30.28 | Ghel | That's a better argument. |
| 19:30.40 | Technobliterator | this is why I am bad in these discussions |
| 19:30.53 | DrodoEmpire | drom: To be fair ISIS arose out of there being no central religious authority in Islam. At least, this is *partially* why |
| 19:30.54 | AndroImp | Technobliterator: I'd call it a fascist-ish group |
| 19:31.05 | Technobliterator | I'd call it non-existent, but hey |
| 19:31.08 | AndroImp | DrodoEmpire: Exactly |
| 19:31.10 | Xho | The basic gist of the conversation: Don't go head first into religion |
| 19:31.10 | DrodoEmpire | Had there been a caliph this whole time things might not be so crazy in the middle east |
| 19:31.15 | AndroImp | Yep |
| 19:31.23 | Xho | Religion's like a tattoo, it leaves a mark on you and you might regret it in the future |
| 19:31.37 | AndroImp | Actually wait |
| 19:31.57 | AndroImp | I will probably have to renounce my love for <3 demon girls before going into a religion |
| 19:32.03 | AndroImp | So I'll wait |
| 19:32.15 | OluapPlayer | The Pope doesn't have to know about it |
| 19:32.16 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Yeah, ISIS was back in time a running joke because they were like every jihadist group until they became more educated about organization. |
| 19:32.25 | OluapPlayer | Demon girls will forever live in your heart |
| 19:32.34 | Ghel | Pick a religion that doesn't believe in a strict separation between good and evil spiritual beings. |
| 19:32.45 | Ghel | Some branch of neopaganism, maybe. |
| 19:32.49 | Xho | Hinduism, there you go |
| 19:33.21 | Monet | A month later Imp comes back to us praising Artemis. |
| 19:33.24 | AndroImp | Hur |
| 19:33.44 | Ghel | I suggest Proto-Indo-European reconstructionism. Might as well go the whole way. |
| 19:33.54 | AndroImp | Ghel: But I am not Indo-European |
| 19:34.09 | Hachiman | Just go for LaVeyan Satanism |
| 19:34.09 | Cyrannian | Don't let that get in the way of your dreams. |
| 19:34.11 | drom | AndroImp: You old ancestors were |
| 19:34.14 | AndroImp | Also neopagans in Russia are usually white supremacists |
| 19:34.19 | Hachiman | It's not even a religion by technicality |
| 19:34.19 | drom | Your* |
| 19:34.40 | Technobliterator | I suggest not worrying about it |
| 19:34.45 | Ghel | You can go for a non-Indo-European paganism if you like. |
| 19:34.56 | AndroImp | Hachiman: LaVeyan Satanism does not fulfill one's religious needs |
| 19:35.00 | drom | My long old ancestor was a bacteria, according to the theory of evolution. |
| 19:35.02 | Monet | AndroImp: Funny because English Neopagans are usually seen adancing in Stonehenge in winter. |
| 19:35.08 | Hachiman | Why do you have religious needs? |
| 19:35.27 | AndroImp | The need for understanding why the universe exists duh |
| 19:35.29 | Monet | Humans are deeply spiritual beings |
| 19:35.31 | AndroImp | Cosmological stuff |
| 19:35.49 | Xho | Go all William Blake and come up with your own mythology |
| 19:35.54 | Xho | Or follow Xhodoctoism, I need followers |
| 19:35.57 | Cyrannian | Why not just worship the Kardashians like everyone else |
| 19:35.59 | drom | hur |
| 19:36.04 | AndroImp | LaVeyanism is mostly a moral system, and it does not really fit my viewpoint |
| 19:36.06 | Technobliterator | .__. |
| 19:36.23 | AndroImp | I am more of a utilitarian moral-wise |
| 19:36.28 | drom | I think LaVeyan Satanism would fit me actually |
| 19:36.29 | Hachiman | There is now real *why* the universe exists outside of the practical sense |
| 19:36.33 | drom | But blah |
| 19:36.37 | Ghel | If it's for cosmological stuff, pick a religion that at least agrees with what science has discovered about the early universe. |
| 19:36.45 | AndroImp | Hachiman: That is how you answer that question hur |
| 19:36.53 | AndroImp | Ghel: Catholicism |
| 19:37.16 | drom | Hachiman: What about Garden of Kadesh? |
| 19:37.19 | Ghel | If that's what you want. |
| 19:37.25 | Cyrannian | http://41.media.tumblr.com/9d8bd1696aa01197c5e12b094c8d034b/tumblr_nraobpAgtO1u5hbjro1_500.jpg - I like the Pope, he's so fabulous |
| 19:37.27 | AndroImp | They belief in God as a watchmaker which makes a lot of sense |
| 19:37.34 | Hachiman | Well go for some line of Buddhism or Shinto; maybe take up Zen |
| 19:37.44 | Monet | That's what I did |
| 19:37.46 | AndroImp | Hachiman: >Shinto |
| 19:37.48 | AndroImp | >Zen |
| 19:37.51 | Ghel | I vote Shinto. Disgrace your Korean ancestors. |
| 19:37.52 | AndroImp | >SHINTO |
| 19:37.55 | AndroImp | >ZEN |
| 19:37.59 | Monet | I like the Daoist philosophy on energy. |
| 19:38.03 | Hachiman | kek |
| 19:38.10 | AndroImp | *kobukson intensifies* |
| 19:38.23 | drom | Time for me to go and chill off my angsty teen self |
| 19:38.42 | AndroImp | Strangely enough I did particupate in Confucian rituals |
| 19:38.53 | Hachiman | Not really all that strange |
| 19:38.53 | Xho | lol go disgrace urself |
| 19:39.03 | Hachiman | Korea and China are like right next to each other |
| 19:39.07 | AndroImp | Like during funerals and that |
| 19:39.17 | AndroImp | We bow and do stuff like Confucians |
| 19:39.35 | AndroImp | Ghel: Being Korean, why should I be a *neo*-pagan though |
| 19:39.48 | AndroImp | I can be a Korean shamanist hur |
| 19:39.50 | Hachiman | Because you are not an ancient pagan hur |
| 19:39.56 | DrodoEmpire | Because the original pagans are all dead <., |
| 19:39.58 | DrodoEmpire | *<.< |
| 19:39.59 | Xho | Seriously though don't choose a religion |
| 19:40.04 | Xho | Religion finds you, brotha |
| 19:40.05 | AndroImp | Hachiman: But Korean pagans still exists |
| 19:40.09 | AndroImp | They are called shamanists |
| 19:40.27 | AndroImp | DrodoEmpire: In Europe |
| 19:40.31 | Ghel | I did say "maybe". And after you pointed out that you're not Indo-European, I did think of Korean shamanism, but didn't know if that's an organised enough religion for you. |
| 19:40.35 | AndroImp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.51 | AndroImp | But yeah hur |
| 19:41.00 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah Xho is right I can't imagine choosing a belief system like that |
| 19:41.00 | Xho | The fact that one is contemplating finding religion means you're not exactly ready for it if you ask me |
| 19:41.05 | DrodoEmpire | But if that's what you want to do |
| 19:41.24 | Xho | There's no rational trial and error with religion, it's called a belief system for a reason |
| 19:41.27 | Hachiman | Are you seriously considering religion as a viable life option when you have not been indoctrinated with it |
| 19:41.35 | AndroImp | Anyway as for philosophy, the idea of God being some sort of designer who set laws into creation for whatever reason and set them into motion |
| 19:41.41 | AndroImp | Is very sensible |
| 19:41.46 | Xho | Isn't that like Prime Mover |
| 19:42.10 | AndroImp | Hachiman: Exactly, being not indoctrinated means I am not decided hur |
| 19:42.31 | AndroImp | I mean imagine us being part of some program |
| 19:42.33 | DrodoEmpire | AndroImp: Hate to be the awful fedora-tipping atheist here, but no idea is sensible without proof or rational argument :p |
| 19:42.47 | DrodoEmpire | Which I see none of even for a deist concept of God |
| 19:42.58 | Xho | Well there's the line between science and religion |
| 19:43.02 | Hachiman | Drodo has a point |
| 19:43.03 | DrodoEmpire | Which, out of every concept, is the most *believable* for me |
| 19:43.14 | DrodoEmpire | But not sensible in any fashion |
| 19:43.15 | AndroImp | DrodoEmpire: The universe follows laws, they have to possess an origin, ergo some sort of creator is necessary for everything to make sense |
| 19:43.29 | DrodoEmpire | No, no creator is strictly necessary |
| 19:43.34 | Xho | Sentient universe theory there's another one |
| 19:43.38 | DrodoEmpire | We know too little to come to that conclusion |
| 19:43.54 | AndroImp | Considering our laws gravitate towards order, it is more possible that the creator possess a rational design behind it |
| 19:43.57 | Ghel | Neither "physical laws have to posses an origin" nor "an origin needs a creator" follow logically. |
| 19:43.59 | Xho | All I'm saying is with all the belief systems out there, the Xhodocto is feasible |
| 19:44.01 | Hachiman | And the universe has a record for breaking its own laws |
| 19:44.05 | Hachiman | Look at dark matter and antimatter |
| 19:44.10 | The_Randomness | wut |
| 19:44.12 | AndroImp | Hachiman: Which follow laws of their own |
| 19:44.18 | Monet | Not really breaking |
| 19:44.20 | Ghel | And besides, that creator itself would need a rational design in its own consciousness. |
| 19:44.23 | Xho | Hachiman: Not exactly a law-breaking thing if it has always existed hur |
| 19:44.24 | The_Randomness | Not breaking at all |
| 19:44.26 | Monet | It's got laws that we're still trying ot work out |
| 19:44.29 | Technobliterator | "the universe follows laws, checkmate atheists" |
| 19:44.29 | AndroImp | Antimatter is perfectly sensible according to the prime forces of the universe |
| 19:44.30 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 19:44.38 | AndroImp | I dunno it is my reasoning |
| 19:44.47 | Xho | AndroImp: Just choose Xhodocto, you'll be fine |
| 19:44.47 | Hachiman | But the inequality of matter and antimatter |
| 19:44.48 | DrodoEmpire | Its not reasoning I agree with I'm afraid |
| 19:45.03 | DrodoEmpire | But you do you |
| 19:45.14 | AndroImp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.31 | AndroImp | Hachiman: Can be explained |
| 19:45.37 | Ghel | The fact that matter and antimatter don't exist in equal quantities is a mystery, but not something that can be reasonably presumed to break physical law. |
| 19:45.40 | Hachiman | No it can't |
| 19:45.46 | Hachiman | Why do you think nobody can answer it now |
| 19:46.06 | Xho | Surely if the universe was infinite, matter and antimatter would be perfectly equal |
| 19:46.13 | Ghel | There are mechanisms for matter-antimatter symmetry in the known laws of physics, they just don't produce enough of an inequality. |
| 19:46.18 | Xho | Or is there some exceptionally complicated mechanic I'm missing out |
| 19:46.33 | AndroImp | A few centuries ago nobody could answer how bacteria work |
| 19:46.36 | AndroImp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.41 | Monet | HAchiman: Just because we can't answer it now doesn't mean we never will |
| 19:46.44 | Ghel | Xho: Yes; you're missing out the CP-violating terms in the CKM matrix. :P |
| 19:46.51 | Xho | dsfkl;kh |
| 19:46.51 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Precisely. |
| 19:46.59 | DrodoEmpire | We'll find out why... But it'll be with science. :p |
| 19:47.06 | AndroImp | Maybe there are some anti-matter zones in the unive4se |
| 19:47.07 | Xho | Science and Religion are very similar right down to it |
| 19:47.20 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: How so? |
| 19:47.27 | Xho | All these explanations, to be honest I think existence is far more content with itself in not finding out its ultimate answer |
| 19:47.32 | AndroImp | Xho: Same origin, slightly different questions poser |
| 19:47.33 | Hachiman | Imp you should consider Gnosticism |
| 19:47.34 | AndroImp | posed |
| 19:47.49 | Hachiman | At least your creator-deity would have a cool name at least |
| 19:47.52 | AndroImp | Hachiman: I am not a flesh-mortifying Matrix cultist |
| 19:47.53 | Monet | I still have a passing belief there may be a god. Largely because that my understanding is that if he does exist, its by a means we cannot detect. |
| 19:47.54 | Hachiman | -at least |
| 19:48.02 | AndroImp | Yaldabaoth is a pretty stupid name too |
| 19:48.05 | AndroImp | YALDABAOTH |
| 19:48.09 | Hachiman | Demiurge however |
| 19:48.13 | OluapPlayer | Go Gorfism or go home |
| 19:48.16 | Xho | The most terrifying thing about existence to me is that what circumstances would come about if humanity finally answered its own question of purpose in existence |
| 19:48.21 | Monet | We cannot find explolanets unless they pass by the parent star, imagien how easy it would be to hide a ninterstellar starship. |
| 19:48.22 | Hachiman | Also fuck you, Yaldabaoth is Lovecraftian as fuck |
| 19:48.33 | AndroImp | The Demiurge can apply to the Christian God too |
| 19:48.35 | Xho | I think by then, science and religion would have defeated themselves as there would be nothing left to answer |
| 19:48.38 | AndroImp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.43 | Hachiman | Xho: >purpose |
| 19:48.52 | Xho | I think believing and not knowing is ultimately existence in itself |
| 19:48.55 | Hachiman | There is no purpose for humanity's existence |
| 19:48.58 | AndroImp | While Yaldabaoth is just a stupid Minecraft player |
| 19:49.08 | AndroImp | Hachiman: This is a belief |
| 19:49.26 | Hachiman | It is humanocentric to think that humanity exists for some divine reason |
| 19:49.38 | DrodoEmpire | The reason doesn't need to be divine |
| 19:49.41 | Xho | hachiman is xhodocto confirmed |
| 19:49.44 | AndroImp | It is also logical for humans to believe they exist for a reason |
| 19:49.45 | DrodoEmpire | Nor does it need to be very profound |
| 19:50.01 | AndroImp | For without a reason we have no reason to exist |
| 19:50.07 | Hachiman | There is a difference between the reason behind humanity's existence and the purpose of it |
| 19:50.08 | Xho | But to me, asking questions is far more meaningful than answering them |
| 19:50.19 | Hachiman | There is no purpose to it while there is practical scientific reasoning |
| 19:50.21 | Ghel | Intrinsic purpose is a concept that inherently does not influence the interactions between physical objects, hence even if it does exist, there is no way for it to directly correlate to changes in our mental states corresponding to knowledge of it. |
| 19:50.21 | AndroImp | Ergo one has to find it to continue living |
| 19:50.25 | Xho | The more we answer, the more we come closer to either immortalising ourselves or destroying ourselves |
| 19:50.28 | Xho | 50/50 |
| 19:50.41 | AndroImp | Hachiman: According to practical scientific reasoning, humans DO have a purpose |
| 19:50.43 | OluapPlayer | Everyone needs to die rite nao |
| 19:50.50 | Monet | Humans were not born with a purpose. We each have a reason ot live that we msut fdiscover for ourselves. |
| 19:50.50 | Xho | Oluap is Xhodocto confirmed as well |
| 19:50.56 | AndroImp | Like all species, to live, reproduce and expand |
| 19:50.57 | Xho | everyone is xhodocto |
| 19:51.04 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: I'm not afraid we'll run out of things to question anytime soon. :p |
| 19:51.11 | DrodoEmpire | Or to answer for that matter |
| 19:51.12 | Xho | Which is good |
| 19:51.24 | DrodoEmpire | If answering such questions'll improve or even save lives I say I'm all for it |
| 19:51.28 | Xho | I don't want to live in the epoch of existence where we finally run out of questions |
| 19:51.41 | AndroImp | And if you consider scientific laws to derive from some creator ultimately |
| 19:51.44 | AndroImp | Then here you go |
| 19:51.47 | AndroImp | Purpose! |
| 19:51.53 | Hachiman | Which I do not because that is fucking stupid |
| 19:51.56 | DrodoEmpire | Even if there's the distant chance and future where humans will live in a time where there is nothing left to know and therefore nothing left to live for |
| 19:51.57 | Ghel | AndroImp: That's not really a "purpose", that's just a statement that things that don't die out tend to exist. Saying that's our "purpose" is just saying "the purpose of things is to not die out". |
| 19:52.09 | Ghel | the purpose of things that exist* |
| 19:52.11 | AndroImp | Well one could argue it does |
| 19:52.14 | AndroImp | Like consider |
| 19:52.14 | Xho | I believe if humanity has a purpose, it transcends far beyond our perceptions of purpose |
| 19:52.16 | Hachiman | There is no evidence to support that scientific laws derive from a creator |
| 19:52.23 | Xho | Whether it's of religious or scientific reasoning |
| 19:52.36 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly everyone just give your life a goal and you have a purpose |
| 19:52.38 | AndroImp | Hachiman: But if you assume all laws must derive from something, a creator has to exist |
| 19:52.43 | Xho | YOU'RE IN MY BALL PARK MOTHERFUCKERS, METAPHYSICS |
| 19:52.43 | DrodoEmpire | You don't need angry gods in the skt |
| 19:52.45 | DrodoEmpire | *sky |
| 19:53.04 | AndroImp | When one assumes they have no origin, one simply leaves it in the dark |
| 19:53.10 | AndroImp | No reason is provided whatsoever |
| 19:53.18 | Ghel | AndroImp: No; even if you assume there must have been an initial thing, it does not follow that said thing must be a conscious entity. |
| 19:53.27 | DrodoEmpire | The origin doesn't have to be a crea*tor*, it could |
| 19:53.34 | DrodoEmpire | *could've just *emerged* |
| 19:53.51 | Xho | I think the concept of a 'creator' is what divides most people |
| 19:53.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like there was some universal Parliament at the beginning of the Big Bang that passed the laws of the universe |
| 19:54.05 | DrodoEmpire | They could've simply... Emerged |
| 19:54.06 | Ghel | And why would it be worse to provide no origin for the laws of physics, than to provide no origin for a creator? |
| 19:54.08 | DrodoEmpire | Out of the chaos |
| 19:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | As absurd as that sounds |
| 19:54.14 | Monet | AndroImp: May I suggest Freidrich Nietche's "The Science of Joy"? |
| 19:54.15 | Xho | If an entity that founds laws that we live upon, it's as equal as a 'creator' as it is a 'destroyer', or a 'mover' or any title |
| 19:54.16 | AndroImp | True that, but if you consider that laws of the universe allow the eventual development of sapience, and generally allow for everything to exist in very complex manners |
| 19:54.28 | Monet | I can't spell his surname but meh |
| 19:54.32 | AndroImp | The idea of a rational creator is not so far-fetched |
| 19:54.36 | AndroImp | Nieztsche |
| 19:54.39 | Monet | You know who I mean |
| 19:54.41 | Xho | I don't think divine reasoning can solely attribute a god to just as a creator |
| 19:54.49 | AndroImp | I start to sound like a Radeon |
| 19:54.52 | Ghel | I'm not saying a creator is impossible. Just unsupported. |
| 19:54.53 | AndroImp | I should probably stop |
| 19:54.58 | DrodoEmpire | nods |
| 19:55.04 | Xho | It's actually a conversation where I can sound super smart in |
| 19:55.08 | Hachiman | This is why I do not bother with religions |
| 19:55.10 | Xho | This is a rare occurence |
| 19:55.13 | OluapPlayer | I wish this talk would stop yes |
| 19:55.28 | AndroImp | Aw come on it was still kind of cool |
| 19:55.35 | Xho | I can't spell that word, never mind the intelligence |
| 19:55.35 | AndroImp | Now I feel inspired to work on Radeons |
| 19:55.48 | OluapPlayer | I come to this site to discuss fiction, not have existential crisis |
| 19:55.50 | Hachiman | Religions are exploitive and manipulative and are used as excuses to justify harming other people |
| 19:56.08 | AndroImp | They are also quite as often useful for structuring society |
| 19:56.11 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I guess you don't read on the Xhodocto much then |
| 19:56.17 | ZF101 | Careful Hachi. That starts flamewars. |
| 19:56.25 | OluapPlayer | The Xhodocto have no effect on me |
| 19:56.27 | ZF101 | Tread carefully. |
| 19:56.29 | OluapPlayer | Because they're fiction |
| 19:56.30 | Hachiman | ZF101: Religion starts real wars |
| 19:56.34 | Xho | Santorakh - LIES SO MANY LIES |
| 19:56.46 | Ghel | I think I must have developed an immunity to existential crises when I was younger. |
| 19:56.48 | dino82_ | @Xho: When do you want to start the Voidstalker general outline plots? |
| 19:56.53 | AndroImp | Hachiman: There would not be Avicenna without the Islamic world creating a large peaceful zone through its conquest to allow scientific ideas to transfer freely |
| 19:56.58 | ZF101 | Yeah, I know The Prussians just needed to fight France over Jesus. |
| 19:57.02 | Xho | dino82_: Could do it now if everyone wants to |
| 19:57.02 | OluapPlayer | if I was influenced by fiction I'd be an emotionless serial murderer |
| 19:57.13 | ZF101 | Or Japan really had it out for Russia cause of their bibles. |
| 19:57.19 | DrodoEmpire | Religion is crazy shit that's done lots of good and bad |
| 19:57.23 | Xho | Well Oluap just managed to explain me whoo |
| 19:57.29 | DrodoEmpire | And Hachi isn't saying its the *sole* cause |
| 19:57.33 | ZF101 | Buttom line, people go to war over anything. |
| 19:57.34 | AndroImp | Likewise without the Church forging institutes for public learning the knowledge of Antiquity could never be preserved |
| 19:57.48 | Xho | Hachiman dino82_ Cyrannian Monet Drom DrodoEmpire Everyone Else Involved: Do you want to start up on Voidwalker plot |
| 19:57.52 | Monet | OluapPlayer: You'd be surprised. |
| 19:57.53 | OluapPlayer | Overall it feels like getting fiction done here is becoming more and more difficult |
| 19:57.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah sure |
| 19:57.58 | Hachiman | Not right now |
| 19:58.02 | AndroImp | The Orthodox Church was one of the pillars of the Byzantine Empire, which proved pivotal in the eventual Renaissance |
| 19:58.21 | ZF101 | Xho: Is there a way for me to get involved in Voidwalker without any fiction in Andromeda? |
| 19:58.25 | Xho | ZF101: Yes |
| 19:58.42 | ZF101 | I'm really interested, and that seemed a bump in the road. |
| 19:58.44 | AndroImp | The weak religious system of East Asian countries caused foreign religions to sprout in their societies, splintering them resulting in Europeans easily dominating them |
| 19:59.01 | AndroImp | It is very easy to say religion does bad things but it does tons of good things too |
| 19:59.09 | Xho | AndroImp: I think we're done |
| 19:59.26 | Xho | That was a cool conversation though, my brain hasn't been that used for a while |
| 19:59.27 | DrodoEmpire | Right, the human ability for abstract thinking's pretty hot shit |
| 20:00.06 | AndroImp | Now I feel inspired |
| 20:00.07 | Cyrannian | Xho: Sure |
| 20:00.11 | Technobliterator | So, urm, are we done with the existential crisis thingy? |
| 20:00.14 | AndroImp | Might work on some religious fiction |
| 20:00.14 | dino82_ | @Xho: Ready! |
| 20:00.16 | AndroImp | Alhaszal |
| 20:00.23 | AndroImp | Or maybe Radeons again |
| 20:00.27 | Technobliterator | I don't have to +m this place? |
| 20:00.29 | Hachiman | I would appreciate if everybody dropped this religious cock and bull stuff and either take up membership of the Cult Mechanicus or follow the God-Emperor in his Great Crusade |
| 20:00.33 | Monet | Xho: I an free to talk |
| 20:01.02 | OluapPlayer | You can't +m this place, that'd be censoring people |
| 20:01.11 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:01.26 | Technobliterator | It's not censorship if it's only brief |
| 20:01.37 | OluapPlayer | Yes it is, "stop talking about the thing" |
| 20:01.41 | drom | Xho: Sure thing |
| 20:01.50 | Monet | Its still an infrignement on our right to free speech |
| 20:01.53 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:01.54 | AndroImp | As I said |
| 20:01.55 | OluapPlayer | Not even I go that far |
| 20:01.56 | DrodoEmpire | "Its not war if its undeclared guys" |
| 20:02.16 | AndroImp | Now I feel inspired to do fiction |
| 20:02.22 | DrodoEmpire | go do fiction then |
| 20:02.24 | DrodoEmpire | D:< |
| 20:02.30 | drom | I'm hyped to do fiction thanks to Wormy_ |
| 20:02.34 | Ghel | AndroImp: Rewrite the Spode page. :P |
| 20:02.36 | Technobliterator | Your right to free speech ends when you break the rules of the channel |
| 20:02.39 | drom | hugs Wormy_ |
| 20:02.41 | AndroImp | Ghel: Exactly. |
| 20:02.48 | OluapPlayer | And no rules are broken, so your point is moot |
| 20:02.50 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Talking about this sort of thing isn't breaking the rules |
| 20:02.56 | Technobliterator | Actually, yes, yes they are |
| 20:03.02 | drom | What thing? |
| 20:03.05 | OluapPlayer | Like? |
| 20:03.15 | DrodoEmpire | Really? Can you please enlighten us? |
| 20:03.21 | Technobliterator | "Religious, Political and other Controversial Topics: Obviously, these conversations are just as controversial on the wiki as they are in real life. These topics may only be discussed on the main channel so long as an active user on IRC does not object. SporeWiki IRC caters to conversations about SporeWiki and so these discussions should be taken to another channel. This rule also applies to other controversial topics |
| 20:03.25 | Wormy_ | aww thanks, I'm hyped to be back writing fiction too, though next week it will have to be evenings rather than full days |
| 20:03.39 | DrodoEmpire | "Controversial subjects" really vague |
| 20:03.52 | DrodoEmpire | And you only started complaining after we were done basically |
| 20:03.59 | DrodoEmpire | Your point's moot, let's drop it |
| 20:04.01 | drom | It isn't controversy unless balls touch |
| 20:04.19 | The_Randomness | Yeah, that's true, the conversation in question is over now |
| 20:04.31 | The_Randomness | techno is nazi mod amirite |
| 20:04.32 | Technobliterator | You think I wasn't thinking about it all while it was going on and hovering over the idea in case it exploded further? |
| 20:04.35 | Technobliterator | .__. |
| 20:04.43 | OluapPlayer | And it didn't |
| 20:04.45 | DrodoEmpire | Well I can't read your thoughts |
| 20:04.46 | OluapPlayer | Get over it already |
| 20:04.47 | Wormy_ | I'm fine with people talking about whatever, but if annoys people or takes over the chat, especially controversial ones. Then they must end. |
| 20:04.49 | DrodoEmpire | And it didn't explode |
| 20:04.51 | ZF101 | Techno's just being an overprotective mommy. |
| 20:04.59 | drom | The_Randomness: Every mod in this channel save you, Cyrannian and Ghel are borderline facists |
| 20:04.59 | Technobliterator | rolls eyes |
| 20:05.03 | DrodoEmpire | So your point's moot |
| 20:05.05 | DrodoEmpire | rolls eyes |
| 20:05.12 | Xho | Is there anyone I've missed off linking the Voidwalker Titanpad to |
| 20:05.13 | The_Randomness | yeehaw |
| 20:05.19 | drom | Techno is mooty as a mook |
| 20:05.21 | drom | Lynch |
| 20:05.25 | ZF101 | May I recieve that link? |
| 20:05.26 | Ghel | Xho: I've been thinking of joining it. |
| 20:05.35 | drom | Xho: Me |
| 20:05.36 | DrodoEmpire | https://titanpad.com/uTzUtz9xLX |
| 20:05.39 | DrodoEmpire | There you go ZF |
| 20:05.51 | ZF101 | Thank you. |
| 20:05.58 | DrodoEmpire | No problem |
| 20:06.01 | Technobliterator | I didn't know upholding rules could lead to pitchforks and witchhunting more than the discussion itself, but whatever. Do what you like, I don't care either way. |
| 20:06.03 | Xho | AAGH |
| 20:06.04 | Xho | WHY |
| 20:06.09 | Xho | PRIVATE MESSAGE THESE LINKS |
| 20:06.16 | DrodoEmpire | There were no pitchforks or witchhunting |
| 20:06.20 | Xho | THAT'S WHY I PRIVATE MESSAGED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE |
| 20:06.25 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 20:06.26 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry |
| 20:06.41 | OluapPlayer | Overreacting. I'm talking to you admin to admin |
| 20:06.46 | Xho | Meh doesn't matter, half the IRC is involved |
| 20:06.47 | AndroImp | We are not even discussing religion anymore |
| 20:07.27 | AndroImp | I think we all agree that the Giant Spaghetti Monster is the one true deity |
| 20:07.46 | Xho | Santorakh - will not deny nor confirm |
| 20:08.25 | DrodoEmpire | AndroImp: yus |
| 20:09.03 | Wormy_ | I believe I am a conscious, living part of the universe, which I am doomed never to perceive the whole. And that is all the spiritual satisfaction I need. |
| 20:09.22 | OluapPlayer | I'm starting to get quite sick of this place's general attitude. I'm going to take some time off |
| 20:09.40 | Xho | I hate to say it but I think Oluap's his own worst enemy |
| 20:09.50 | Xho | Actually no I don't hate to say it |
| 20:09.55 | Xho | Oluap IS his own worst enemy |
| 20:10.02 | Wormy_ | But I am essentially the same thing as the universe, not a thing floating in it, but a part of it the flow itself |
| 20:10.25 | Xho | Poor bloke needs to open up more to other users if he wants to do more fiction |
| 20:11.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... >: |
| 20:11.14 | Technobliterator | Well, I sympathise with him in a way, because I've been similarly demotivated to do anything around here. |
| 20:11.30 | Xho | Probably out of Oluap's sudden desire to not do Da Reckoning |
| 20:11.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the feeling's completely understandable, still |
| 20:11.46 | Xho | I think his general attitude is what restricts him from doing things and in turn other users |
| 20:11.50 | Technobliterator | It was because he didn't like working with some of the users involved |
| 20:12.10 | Hachiman | The reason why he does not want to do Da Reckoning is because people treated him like shit and he is sick of it |
| 20:12.11 | Technobliterator | Notably, ones who would show up to a titanpad between people despite them not being involved and insult him |
| 20:12.25 | Xho | Well the fact that he only interacts with myself, Hachi, you, Imperios and Cyrannian most of the time, he's going to burn out rather quickly |
| 20:12.30 | Xho | Not enough room to move |
| 20:12.52 | Xho | That's why I stopped with the flow for Eschaton, I want to go off and do other things for the time being |
| 20:12.55 | Xho | I need a break from it |
| 20:13.18 | Technobliterator | I'm in an awkward place with Da Reckoning. I want to cancel, and yet I don't want to cancel. |
| 20:13.21 | Hachiman | He told me he undertook admin policy the other day by removing references from some new user's pages about Borealis because he did not give permission to use it in the page content, and he told me that he was discriminated against for it |
| 20:13.35 | Hachiman | And then the incident on Titanpad happened and I can understand why he would be pissed off |
| 20:13.57 | Technobliterator | Yes, a few people were needlessly upset at him for that |
| 20:14.04 | DrodoEmpire | What happened? |
| 20:14.11 | Xho | It should be noted rather than forcibly removed in my opinion |
| 20:14.22 | Technobliterator | No, I think it should be forcibly removed |
| 20:14.29 | Hachiman | I would have done the same; forcibly remove it |
| 20:14.33 | DrodoEmpire | He should be notified and have the offended things removed |
| 20:14.34 | Xho | It's not proper conduct to go ahead and do something without noting a user, it's just impolite in my opinion |
| 20:14.38 | DrodoEmpire | *offending things |
| 20:14.45 | Xho | Or you can remove and note |
| 20:14.48 | DrodoEmpire | ^] |
| 20:14.50 | Xho | That's acceptable to me |
| 20:14.50 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, that's exactly what happened |
| 20:14.56 | Hachiman | He was enforcing wiki policy |
| 20:15.00 | Technobliterator | And people got frustrated with him for that |
| 20:15.01 | Hachiman | And he was discriminated against for it |
| 20:15.02 | DrodoEmpire | Well I have no idea Tech is all |
| 20:15.06 | Xho | Wiki policy yes, there's also user conduct |
| 20:15.10 | Technobliterator | If people wanted to change the policy, they should have made a forum about it |
| 20:15.14 | Xho | You can't do one without the other |
| 20:15.36 | Monet | He was enforcing wiki policy i na way that upset people. |
| 20:15.48 | Technobliterator | Then people are upset with the policy, not the person |
| 20:15.51 | Hachiman | He was enforcing it nonetheless and I cannot fault him for that |
| 20:15.58 | Technobliterator | Open a forum and discuss a change to it |
| 20:16.01 | Monet | No one likes having their stuff changed without being told. |
| 20:16.10 | dino82_ | @Jo: Why cancel Da Reckoning |
| 20:16.11 | Hachiman | They should have read the rules then |
| 20:16.12 | dino82_ | ? |
| 20:16.14 | Xho | I'm with Monet and Drodo on this one |
| 20:16.27 | Technobliterator | dino82_, I'm not going to completely cancel it, but I'm a little demotivated at the moment |
| 20:16.27 | Xho | Enforcing wiki policy? No problem |
| 20:16.37 | Technobliterator | Monet, the user WAS told |
| 20:16.42 | Technobliterator | Very explicitly |
| 20:16.49 | dino82_ | @Jo: Oh that is shame to hear! Just made two new characters to make use for the intro with the Rambo -_- |
| 20:16.50 | Hachiman | If that user did not want their stuff changed with the intervention of an admin, they should read the fucking rules |
| 20:16.51 | Monet | Technobliterator: Before or after the change? |
| 20:16.53 | Technobliterator | I don't think they should've even been given a message on their message wall |
| 20:17.01 | Technobliterator | The edit summary makes it PERFECTLY clear |
| 20:17.14 | Xho | You can't expect everyone to read the rules |
| 20:17.17 | Xho | I don't read the rules |
| 20:17.20 | Technobliterator | If you can't learn to read an edit summary, you shouldn't be using a wiki |
| 20:17.20 | dino82_ | The one that brought the senate to a halt with his articles: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dennis_George_Voltar |
| 20:17.21 | Xho | I learned them by being here |
| 20:17.24 | Hachiman | That is why there are rules |
| 20:17.32 | Hachiman | If you break them, it is advised you read them |
| 20:17.33 | DrodoEmpire | We're going in cricles |
| 20:17.36 | DrodoEmpire | *circles |
| 20:17.37 | AndroImp | Hachiman: Not necessarily, his stuff might simply be deemed non-canon |
| 20:17.38 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 20:17.40 | DrodoEmpire | Everybody just stop |
| 20:17.40 | Technobliterator | dino82_, don't worry, they'll still be used, it's just that I might have to delay it by a few weeks |
| 20:17.56 | Technobliterator | Everyone's too excited for the fiction for me to completely end it :p |
| 20:17.58 | dino82_ | @Jo: Ah clear by that! Gives me a bit more time to work on the intro :d |
| 20:18.03 | Technobliterator | ^.^ |
| 20:18.09 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.84) |
| 20:18.17 | Hachiman | I feel Oluap was in the right and the people who discriminated and criticized him for it have no idea how wiki policy works |
| 20:18.25 | Xho | If you spoke to me a year ago about this I'd probably be agreeing with Hachi and Jo |
| 20:18.30 | Technobliterator | But anyway, my point stands: if you don't like the rules, open a forum and discuss a change to them |
| 20:18.48 | DrodoEmpire | Allright seems like we're not going to stop |
| 20:18.51 | Hachiman | Nobody should be made to feel like shit for following and enforcing rules |
| 20:18.56 | Imperios | BTW |
| 20:18.58 | DrodoEmpire | No, no they shouldn't |
| 20:19.10 | Imperios | BTW GUYS |
| 20:19.13 | DrodoEmpire | And the way I see it Oluap made the change and notified the user |
| 20:19.14 | Xho | I think Drodo's getting at in the way in which it was enforced |
| 20:19.17 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nyx This guy understood everything |
| 20:19.21 | Imperios | And fixed what was problematic |
| 20:19.40 | DrodoEmpire | But maybe he didn't, I can't see where he Oluap was harassed |
| 20:19.47 | DrodoEmpire | Was it on the IRC? |
| 20:19.50 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 20:19.50 | Cyrannian | I think the channel has experienced enough arguments for one day. And to think I thought the argument about arguments about religion would be the low point of the day. Perhaps we should discuss fiction instead. |
| 20:19.55 | Technobliterator | I think the way it was enforced was fine. I wouldn't have even bothered to tell the user in question. |
| 20:20.10 | Technobliterator | I would just put it in the edit summary, and leave it at that. |
| 20:20.14 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 20:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | And yes, Xho, I'm saying that if there was anything at all wrong in the first place it would've been with the method |
| 20:20.25 | Technobliterator | If you can't learn to read a revision history page, or use the RecentChanges, you shouldn't be editing a wiki. Period. |
| 20:20.27 | DrodoEmpire | But I can't see anything wrong with the method |
| 20:20.29 | Hachiman | But the method was not wrong |
| 20:20.36 | DrodoEmpire | ...I said that Hachi |
| 20:20.39 | Hachiman | Oh right |
| 20:20.48 | Xho | Either way, from an objective point of view sometimes I think the way Oluap handles things isn't very becoming of wiki conduct |
| 20:20.58 | DrodoEmpire | To be fair, this is true sometimes |
| 20:21.04 | Hachiman | I do not think a lot of people here are very becoming of wiki conduct |
| 20:21.08 | Xho | I don't tend to involve myself in it but it's sometimes just off to me |
| 20:21.12 | Hachiman | This is not an argument people should be bringing up |
| 20:21.17 | Hachiman | Because this can very easily backfire |
| 20:21.20 | Imperios | BTW guys |
| 20:21.23 | DrodoEmpire | No I don't see this being very productive |
| 20:21.26 | Imperios | Any idea on how the word "Spode" could originate? |
| 20:21.32 | Xho | More or less, eh might as well change topic |
| 20:21.32 | Imperios | "Spode" does not feel particularily Radeon |
| 20:21.37 | DrodoEmpire | Let's not talk shit about other users |
| 20:21.51 | Technobliterator | There are no written rules on wiki conduct anywhere, so he doesn't have anything to follow |
| 20:21.57 | Hachiman | Yes because I can quite easily tell Oluap that he has been spoken about here and he will read the logs |
| 20:21.58 | Technobliterator | You are welcome to suggest those on the forums |
| 20:22.08 | Ghel | Imperios: Could it have been introduced by the Nars? Or do you think it should have come from another species? |
| 20:22.23 | Imperios | Nars do not really have a language of their won |
| 20:22.24 | Imperios | own |
| 20:22.25 | Xho | Hachiman: You could imagine the shitstorm right |
| 20:22.28 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: That and its rude |
| 20:22.29 | Imperios | They're a multispecies organisation |
| 20:22.47 | Technobliterator | Well, I have for a long time opposed keeping wiki logs |
| 20:22.48 | Ghel | Well, that gives them plenty of languages to choose from. |
| 20:23.05 | Technobliterator | because they are just a source of shit stirring at the end of the day |
| 20:23.22 | Hachiman | He has told me that he is sick of how he is treated on the wiki and the approach from users towards admins |
| 20:23.38 | Xho | That goes back towards the whole hierarchy thing |
| 20:23.47 | Technobliterator | we should go back to the days when Ose was the king of the wiki |
| 20:23.49 | Ghel | Otherwise, the only species I have could have given the Radeons the word "Spode" would be the Zuckhs, but why the Radeons would have taken a word for their deity from a species they only encountered 9000 years ago, and not for very long, I don't know. |
| 20:23.50 | DrodoEmpire | Okay *now* is the time for people to really shut up |
| 20:23.55 | Ghel | I have that* |
| 20:23.57 | Technobliterator | and no one would challenge him on anything ever |
| 20:24.08 | Imperios | Alright, just thinking of possible IRL analogues |
| 20:24.09 | Xho | Hell users challenge me on things |
| 20:24.17 | DrodoEmpire | Despotism never ends well. :p |
| 20:24.18 | Imperios | Right |
| 20:24.27 | Imperios | Hm |
| 20:24.47 | DrodoEmpire | And its important people are able to challenge the viewpoints of others. I personally would never drag say an admin through the mud, nor would anybody i know on the wiki |
| 20:25.00 | Imperios | MAybe it comes from an archaic Radessic form |
| 20:25.03 | DrodoEmpire | If anybody, admin or not does something stupid I will call them out on it |
| 20:25.05 | Technobliterator | Well, it's happened before, Drodo |
| 20:25.11 | Technobliterator | It's rarer nowadays, but it's happened |
| 20:25.22 | Xho | Admins are meant to ban users if they start to stir shit, that's it really |
| 20:25.24 | Hachiman | It happened very recently even |
| 20:25.44 | DrodoEmpire | Questioning authority isn't slandering it, is what I'm saying |
| 20:25.49 | Imperios | It could be a corruption of the actual Radessic word, which is more Radeon-sounding |
| 20:25.50 | DrodoEmpire | Learn the difference |
| 20:25.50 | Imperios | Like |
| 20:25.54 | Imperios | es'Poeth |
| 20:25.56 | Xho | Admins shouldn't really have any authority over others nor should they be entitled to it |
| 20:26.00 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:26.01 | Technobliterator | oh god, are we slipping into one of those periods in wiki history where it suddenly becomes a huge drama fest |
| 20:26.02 | Technobliterator | like |
| 20:26.07 | Imperios | Es'poeth -> S'podh -> Spode |
| 20:26.09 | Technobliterator | it was the Cleanslate before |
| 20:26.12 | Xho | We probably are |
| 20:26.14 | DrodoEmpire | I thought this was an off-year too |
| 20:26.15 | Technobliterator | then it was...whatever was on in 2014 |
| 20:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | Point is, let's... Not bring this up |
| 20:26.33 | Technobliterator | are we going back to that time again ._. |
| 20:26.34 | DrodoEmpire | We solved this problem twoish years ago |
| 20:26.43 | Hachiman | I believe that admins should drop the "few extra buttons" thing and exercise more authority |
| 20:26.43 | DrodoEmpire | We don't need another period of upheaval |
| 20:26.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: I am the exact opposite to your position |
| 20:26.57 | DrodoEmpire | Actually |
| 20:26.57 | The_Randomness | What happened two years ago again? |
| 20:27.08 | DrodoEmpire | *Big* shitstorm over the gigaconflicts |
| 20:27.14 | The_Randomness | Oh right |
| 20:27.19 | Technobliterator | Don't you remember that, Random? |
| 20:27.23 | DrodoEmpire | A lot of fingers were pointed but it ended eventually and its been peaceful ever since |
| 20:27.24 | Imperios | My problem with strong authoritarian decisions is that they cause people to become angered and flee |
| 20:27.26 | Technobliterator | We made you an admin because of it ._. |
| 20:27.31 | Xho | I just wouldn't use the word 'authority' |
| 20:27.32 | Hachiman | This false idea of user equality is leading to chaos and people believing they can stir shit with the admins |
| 20:27.36 | DrodoEmpire | No |
| 20:27.40 | The_Randomness | I just didn't remember what exactly happened then |
| 20:27.43 | Imperios | >false idea of equality |
| 20:27.45 | DrodoEmpire | Things have been going pretty well since then |
| 20:27.49 | Xho | Admins are here to keep the peace, not to govern |
| 20:27.49 | DrodoEmpire | Until now |
| 20:27.51 | Imperios | >false idea of equality |
| 20:27.52 | Imperios | WHAT |
| 20:27.54 | DrodoEmpire | what's happening now |
| 20:27.55 | The_Randomness | I agree with Xho |
| 20:27.56 | Imperios | what |
| 20:27.59 | Imperios | WHAT |
| 20:28.01 | Technobliterator | Okay, urm |
| 20:28.02 | DrodoEmpire | Is that two different ideologies are conflicting |
| 20:28.04 | ZF101 | Defiantly with Xho. |
| 20:28.15 | Imperios | what are you guys even arguing about |
| 20:28.15 | Xho | As a wiki, users are (or should be) smart enough to govern themselves |
| 20:28.22 | DrodoEmpire | One side (which seems to consist of Hachi basically) is saying admins should be rulers |
| 20:28.22 | Xho | Those that aren't, are the users that don't last on the wiki |
| 20:28.26 | DrodoEmpire | The other, moderators |
| 20:28.54 | Hachiman | I feel that the users are not smart enough to govern themselves if they actively oppose wiki policy and treat the admins like shit |
| 20:28.57 | Technobliterator | No, what Hachi's suggesting is that users are becoming unruly and that we should have a harsher sysop team to respond to that |
| 20:29.10 | Technobliterator | I neither agree nor disagree |
| 20:29.15 | Imperios | How are they unrult |
| 20:29.17 | Imperios | unruly even |
| 20:29.20 | Xho | Aside from the fact I had a manic depressive breakdown, the reason why I stopped being an admin is because as a user I can keep the peace just as much as an admin |
| 20:29.24 | DrodoEmpire | I don't see where people are "unruly" |
| 20:29.25 | Imperios | HOW ABOUT |
| 20:29.25 | Xho | I don't need buttons to do that |
| 20:29.29 | Xho | Users don't need that either |
| 20:29.31 | Hachiman | Discriminating against Oluap for enforcing the wiki rules in that Nyx incident for one |
| 20:29.31 | Imperios | WE DO AN ANCIENT GREEK THING |
| 20:29.38 | Xho | The buttons are there for those who vandalise the wiki, that's it |
| 20:29.41 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Yeah, you're overblowing that |
| 20:29.44 | Imperios | GUYS |
| 20:29.45 | Imperios | HEAR ME |
| 20:29.49 | Imperios | LET'S |
| 20:29.49 | Technobliterator | Xho, that's not true, they're also there for designing the wiki |
| 20:29.50 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 20:29.51 | DrodoEmpire | Nobody who is anybody is attacking him |
| 20:29.55 | Hachiman | And then Vincent snapping at Oluap despite being requested not to interfere with his and Jo's business |
| 20:29.56 | Monet | I am going t oside with Xho regarding user bahaviour. |
| 20:29.57 | Imperios | SHUFFLE ADMINSHIP ROLES |
| 20:30.02 | Imperios | FOR EXAMPLE |
| 20:30.04 | Monet | We're a community of fifteen, not fifteen-hundred. |
| 20:30.07 | Technobliterator | Imperios, let's not |
| 20:30.10 | Xho | Technobliterator: dur of course |
| 20:30.18 | Imperios | ONE MONTH JO AND CYR ARE ADMINS |
| 20:30.21 | Imperios | NEXT MONTH |
| 20:30.23 | Technobliterator | No |
| 20:30.24 | Imperios | ME AND XHO ARE |
| 20:30.27 | Technobliterator | Let's not |
| 20:30.28 | Technobliterator | Seriously |
| 20:30.28 | *** part/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.84) |
| 20:30.29 | The_Randomness | No that's stupid |
| 20:30.32 | Xho | No, user behaviour is paramount |
| 20:30.35 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.84) |
| 20:30.36 | Imperios | Ooops |
| 20:30.44 | Technobliterator | Like |
| 20:30.47 | DrodoEmpire | People are decidedly opposed to that idea |
| 20:30.47 | Imperios | Seriously though it could help |
| 20:30.53 | Technobliterator | that's literally the worst way you could ever do it |
| 20:30.57 | Imperios | Adminship strains people too much |
| 20:30.57 | Hachiman | That is a fucking stupid idea |
| 20:30.58 | Xho | An admin cannot be expected to keep users in line, that's entirely up to the users |
| 20:30.59 | The_Randomness | ＷＥＬＣＯï¼ï¼¥ ＴＯ ＴＨＥ ＣＬＯＷＮ ＦＩＥＳＴＡ |
| 20:31.01 | Hachiman | Imagine if I became admin |
| 20:31.02 | Technobliterator | It's a complete overreaction to a problem that doesn't exist |
| 20:31.06 | Imperios | Hachiman: Exactly |
| 20:31.13 | Hachiman | Also I do believe admins should keep users in line |
| 20:31.18 | Hachiman | That is why they are admins |
| 20:31.20 | Imperios | You become an admin, have a week of facing all the shit admins suffer, and poof |
| 20:31.20 | Imperios | done |
| 20:31.26 | DrodoEmpire | No, with a community this small users keep users in line |
| 20:31.33 | Technobliterator | It's a bad idea, Imperios |
| 20:31.33 | Hachiman | Except we are not in line |
| 20:31.38 | DrodoEmpire | In your opinion |
| 20:31.45 | Technobliterator | Please just don't drag us through another one of these dramafests |
| 20:31.48 | DrodoEmpire | There's the occasional sporadic thing and that's not good |
| 20:31.58 | DrodoEmpire | But we can't say that there's a revolt because of that |
| 20:32.02 | DrodoEmpire | And yes, let's just |
| 20:32.03 | Xho | Exercising authority is a terrible thing if there's no authority to exercise |
| 20:32.04 | DrodoEmpire | Fucking |
| 20:32.06 | DrodoEmpire | Drop it |
| 20:32.06 | Hachiman | The fact occasional sporadic things happen is bad in itself |
| 20:32.12 | Technobliterator | Not really, no |
| 20:32.13 | Xho | Like I said, admins aren't authority |
| 20:32.24 | Imperios | Actually I just realised something about the rules |
| 20:32.34 | Imperios | We have rules, but no laws regarding punishment and/or enforcing them |
| 20:32.46 | Imperios | Had we had an exact protocol about how we address stuff like thi |
| 20:32.47 | Imperios | this |
| 20:32.49 | Technobliterator | Yeah, can we please, not have any of those? |
| 20:32.52 | Xho | They're guides, not there to remove users for being out of line unless it gets properly out of hand |
| 20:32.57 | Technobliterator | Like, those just lead to even worse dramafests |
| 20:33.03 | Imperios | This whole Nyx thing would not have happened |
| 20:33.05 | Technobliterator | If you want to propose them, use the forums |
| 20:33.06 | Imperios | Like for exammple |
| 20:33.08 | Technobliterator | Seriously |
| 20:33.10 | Xho | If there is a problem between users, it always goes two ways, never once |
| 20:33.11 | Technobliterator | FORUMS |
| 20:33.12 | Imperios | Some guy breaks the rule |
| 20:33.26 | Imperios | We issue a warning, give him some time to change it |
| 20:33.26 | Xho | If it's a one way thing then it's entirely unfounded |
| 20:33.27 | Hachiman | The thing with Nyx was not the admin's fault |
| 20:33.31 | Technobliterator | I'm legit close to +m'ing this channel |
| 20:33.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi, nobody agrees with what has happened with the Nyx incident. Nobody's siding against Oluap |
| 20:33.33 | Imperios | Should he fail to do so |
| 20:33.39 | Imperios | Or she |
| 20:33.41 | DrodoEmpire | Tech, I'd support such a thing |
| 20:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | I want this to end |
| 20:33.46 | drom | Hell. If I was admin, I'd give everyone chanop privileges |
| 20:33.48 | DrodoEmpire | I don't want more drama |
| 20:33.51 | Imperios | We change it for ourselves and/or put a warning that it is non-canon |
| 20:33.53 | Technobliterator | sighs |
| 20:33.57 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+m] by Technobliterator |
| 20:34.02 | Cyrannian | Seriously guys, I know this is about admin abuse and everything, but this is getting out of hand. Just treat everyone with equal respect and everything will be dandy. |
| 20:34.06 | Technobliterator | NO MORE DRAMAFESTS PEOPLE |
| 20:34.18 | Technobliterator | If you guys have problems with the rules, please bring them up on the forums |
| 20:34.20 | Cyrannian | What does +m do? |
| 20:34.26 | Technobliterator | Thank you for your co-operation :o |
| 20:34.31 | *** mode/#sporewiki [-m] by Technobliterator |
| 20:34.32 | Xho | Like that |
| 20:34.34 | The_Randomness | (à¸ Í Â° ÍÊ Í¡Â°)ภá´Êɪs ɪs á´á´Ê á´Êá´á´ á´Êá´Ês (à¸ Í Â° ÍÊ Í¡Â°)ภ|
| 20:34.35 | Xho | Stops users from typing |
| 20:34.37 | Imperios | Alright |
| 20:34.42 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian, it quiets the channel so only modded people can speak |
| 20:34.43 | drom | FACISTS |
| 20:34.58 | Xho | You know what, I'm gonna write a post on this |
| 20:35.03 | Xho | This shit's getting out of hand |
| 20:35.04 | Imperios | Speaking of which guys |
| 20:35.06 | drom | Do it |
| 20:35.07 | Xho | Time for Vindicator Xho to come out |
| 20:35.10 | Imperios | Could I be admin plz ^^ |
| 20:35.20 | Xho | You've officially woken Old Xho up |
| 20:35.22 | Technobliterator | Xho, you're more than welcome to |
| 20:35.26 | The_Randomness | Imperios: no, gib clay |
| 20:35.38 | Imperios | Like, considering I usually am friendly towards people |
| 20:35.43 | Imperios | Especially newcomers |
| 20:35.49 | Imperios | I could be the guy to approach people |
| 20:35.52 | Technobliterator | Imperios, please feel free to bring that idea up on Project:Requests for adminship |
| 20:35.56 | DrodoEmpire | Impy: me too |
| 20:36.06 | Imperios | This wiki is a gerontocracy |
| 20:36.09 | drom | Imperios: I try to be friendly to newcomers too |
| 20:36.10 | Imperios | YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH |
| 20:36.12 | Imperios | Lol j/k |
| 20:36.25 | drom | But I easily get annoyed |
| 20:36.26 | Xho | I wouldn't mind being an admin again, though right now there's enough admins |
| 20:36.34 | Monet | I can vouch for Imperios' friendliness. |
| 20:36.59 | Xho | If it really does carry weight on the wiki, then I'd might as well use it in a way which the wiki benefits fromit |
| 20:37.01 | Xho | from it |
| 20:37.06 | Xho | Not going insane on people |
| 20:37.18 | Xho | like i did last ime |
| 20:37.19 | Xho | time |
| 20:37.21 | Xho | sry waptor |
| 20:37.25 | Wormy_ | drom, Ghel, Cyrannian, The_Randomness: Me and Monet finished the Andromedan section of the Great Expedition! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Ages/Tigris_War/The_Great_Expedition#Part_two |
| 20:37.26 | Imperios | It is closed |
| 20:37.27 | Imperios | Open plz |
| 20:37.43 | Ghel | reads it |
| 20:37.44 | drom | AI OPEN THIS DOOR |
| 20:37.50 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: I'll check it out later, currently busy atm |
| 20:37.55 | Imperios | Then again |
| 20:37.58 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator, Xho: You may like it also, time wimey and philosophical stuff |
| 20:38.01 | Imperios | Friendly as I am, I am also extremely unstable |
| 20:38.04 | Xho | timey wimey |
| 20:38.10 | Imperios | Though this does not affect my judgement so much |
| 20:38.27 | Technobliterator | Wormy_, I'll check it out later |
| 20:38.47 | Wormy_ | cool |
| 20:38.49 | drom | Imperios: Face it, I win the "the most unstable user" championship |
| 20:39.41 | ZF101 | drom: I think I win that one. I tried to put the moves on you over rubbing alcohol. |
| 20:39.59 | drom | geeggeegeasgasdgasdg |
| 20:40.00 | drom | NO |
| 20:40.03 | ZF101 | In my defense, I did watch to much Rocky Horror picture show that day. |
| 20:40.16 | ZF101 | I was feeling some to-to-toxic love. |
| 20:40.34 | ZF101 | I love Tim Curry. |
| 20:40.56 | Cyrannian | I await Xho's post with antici- |
| 20:41.11 | Xho | Cyrannian: wat |
| 20:41.13 | Cyrannian | -pation |
| 20:41.17 | Xho | oh u |
| 20:41.19 | Monet | Clever |
| 20:41.44 | ZF101 | They all floooat! |
| 20:42.04 | ZF101 | And when your down here, you'll floooat too. |
| 20:42.51 | ZF101 | Curry iz best clown. |
| 20:43.01 | Imperios | Cyrannian Xho Technobliterator: Wait, as far as I understand SporeWiki does not allow for more admins rn |
| 20:43.03 | Imperios | Right? |
| 20:43.09 | Xho | At the moment |
| 20:43.26 | Xho | That's why I filed for Bureaucrat once I assassinate Wormy_ |
| 20:43.59 | Technobliterator | Imperios, absolutely not true at all |
| 20:44.42 | Technobliterator | I am of the belief we should have as many sysops as we can trust |
| 20:45.03 | Technobliterator | If you really wish to be an administrator, post it on the Project:requests page and have people respond to it |
| 20:45.03 | Imperios | I mean the page is closed |
| 20:45.08 | Technobliterator | No, it is not |
| 20:45.10 | Imperios | The page is closed hur |
| 20:45.17 | Technobliterator | Link me to it, and I will un-close it. |
| 20:45.46 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Requests_for_adminship?action=history there |
| 20:46.17 | Technobliterator | Yeah, that's not closed |
| 20:47.08 | Technobliterator | Autoconfirmed protection means you cannot edit if a) you are an IP address, or b) your account is younger than 3 days |
| 20:48.00 | drom | Wormy_: "But until then, history continued. The fleet moved onward to Tigris." Nnnnnngh |
| 20:48.44 | Wormy_ | Nerdgasm or something you didn't like? |
| 20:49.56 | drom | nerdgasm |
| 20:50.22 | drom | And that I'm crazy to do fiction |
| 20:51.36 | drom | Speaking of, I need to butt in my WoA prologue somewhere, but I'm loss at words |
| 20:51.55 | drom | a loss for* |
| 20:53.18 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Requests_for_adminship#TheImperios_.28Admin.29 My master plan to ascend to power begins |
| 20:54.14 | Imperios | grab for power evne |
| 20:54.58 | ZF101 | Imp, can I be your sychophantic servant who ultimately starsceams you? |
| 20:55.04 | Imperios | Yes |
| 20:55.08 | ZF101 | Yesss. |
| 20:55.16 | Imperios | That's Megatron's tic |
| 20:55.19 | Imperios | Not Starscream's |
| 20:55.26 | DrodoEmpire | gathers the royal guard and puts Imperios under arrest for treason |
| 20:55.26 | ZF101 | "All power demands sacrifice." |
| 20:55.34 | DrodoEmpire | Your political bid is *over*! D:< |
| 20:56.00 | ZF101 | So long Lord Impy, your riegn is over now! Now I am in command! *flies off* |
| 20:56.17 | Technobliterator | For the record, people are supposed to respond with "support" or "oppose" comments, and we'll presumably discuss it at some point |
| 20:56.45 | Technobliterator | I have yet to make a decision either way, so I won't respond yet |
| 20:57.00 | Imperios | Admittedly I have a bad history |
| 20:57.03 | Imperios | So this might be a problem |
| 20:57.18 | Technobliterator | History is history |
| 20:57.53 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios will make SporeWiki great again |
| 20:57.56 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 20:57.58 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 20:58.36 | drom | Cannot stump the Imp |
| 20:58.40 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:58.42 | Imperios | No I'll just be your Putin |
| 20:58.54 | Imperios | "If not Imperios, then WHO?!" |
| 20:59.04 | drom | Vladimir Trump |
| 20:59.40 | Imperios | http://cs627430.vk.me/v627430275/34c81/MI5WpRgzjlM.jpg So girl showed this |
| 20:59.49 | Imperios | I don't get what that bear is supposed to represent |
| 20:59.56 | Imperios | Or what his phrase even means |
| 21:00.55 | Monet | My Chav primer translate it as "you're really good looking" |
| 21:01.00 | Ghel | "shit bitch" - expression of amazement; "you is fine" = "you are physically attractive". |
| 21:01.47 | Cyrannian | That bear should be executed for grammatical incompetence. |
| 21:01.51 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:210379 Right, FUCK |
| 21:01.57 | Cyrannian | gladly |
| 21:02.01 | Cyrannian | saddles up to Xho |
| 21:02.10 | Xho | shit bitch u is fine |
| 21:02.29 | Monet | So good news Imp, whoever sent you that image thinks you're sexy. |
| 21:02.51 | Imperios | No she wrote this and said "I need this" |
| 21:02.59 | ZF101 | Gotta go cya all later. |
| 21:03.22 | Monet | oh |
| 21:04.07 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.37 | drom | Xho: "Admins do not have any power over you." I like how this statement has two sides. Both true and false. |
| 21:04.52 | Imperios | Probably the latter |
| 21:05.31 | drom | 1. If admin has power over you - abusement of authority |
| 21:05.40 | drom | That means true |
| 21:05.53 | drom | 2. If admin has over you - they can do things you cannot |
| 21:05.57 | drom | That means false |
| 21:06.03 | Technobliterator | Please can we discuss matters like these on the forum themselves, rather than on the IRC, where it descends into chaos quickly? |
| 21:06.04 | drom | has power over you* |
| 21:06.18 | drom | Sorry. |
| 21:06.21 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Its a good rant, glad you got it off of your chest. I really just hope it doesn't cause a controversy |
| 21:06.30 | drom | But I felt like it was a bit too short to be posted on the forums |
| 21:06.32 | Xho | If it does, it presents a problem that needs to be resolved |
| 21:07.13 | Xho | And, like I said, if I'm perceived to have sway on the wiki, users will listen |
| 21:07.19 | Technobliterator | No, it's fine, drom |
| 21:07.19 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire_ (adfc264b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.252.38.75) |
| 21:07.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | Back |
| 21:07.41 | Technobliterator | I mostly just fear it descending into chaos if it became discussed widespread |
| 21:07.51 | Wormy_ | Kind of sad I wasn't mentioned on the thread |
| 21:07.58 | drom | Considering it is a real serious situation that I consider long replys most appreciated |
| 21:08.11 | Wormy_ | Have I not been annoying enough to be noticeable?! |
| 21:08.14 | Xho | Wormy_: The fact you weren't present in the discussion |
| 21:08.18 | dino82_ | Have to go! See ya all next time ;D |
| 21:08.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Wormy_, it just means you avoided this whole thing |
| 21:08.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Good on you |
| 21:08.26 | Wormy_ | I'm only joking |
| 21:08.26 | Cyrannian | It's good to air out such things rather than let them boil up and explode in a volcanic torrent of bitchiness. |
| 21:08.27 | dino82_ | @Xho: Lookingforward to you Voidstalker lay out/plan! |
| 21:08.28 | Cyrannian | Bye dino! |
| 21:08.29 | dino82_ | Bye bye |
| 21:08.34 | Wormy_ | I was writing fiction |
| 21:08.43 | Wormy_ | blissfully unaware |
| 21:08.49 | Xho | That was probably the better course of action |
| 21:08.54 | Monet | Goodnight :) |
| 21:08.54 | Technobliterator | I concur |
| 21:08.55 | Xho | dino82_: adios |
| 21:08.58 | Wormy_ | indeed |
| 21:08.59 | Wormy_ | bye |
| 21:09.00 | Technobliterator | see ya, dino :o |
| 21:09.11 | Wormy_ | good luck with whatever you are doing |
| 21:09.34 | drom | Welp I was to late to give dino a good bye |
| 21:09.39 | Xho | But hell, how old are we all |
| 21:09.50 | Xho | We're all old enough to have a formed conscience |
| 21:09.57 | Xho | Everyone should just use it more |
| 21:10.16 | drom | Old enough to maintain a code of maturity |
| 21:10.28 | Wormy_ | I think the problem is a lot of misunderstanding and lack of communication |
| 21:10.44 | drom | We have got stubborn users that is too |
| 21:10.44 | Wormy_ | Its hard to understand the *emotional* points of view of other users |
| 21:10.57 | Wormy_ | And without that communication, there can be no trust. |
| 21:16.04 | Wormy_ | Ghel, drom, Monet: If it interests you, I took inspiration from Roger Penrose's theory that unififies both the beginning and the end of the universe, though it is not without problems - 36:35 - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2345a8_bbc-horizon-what-happened-before-the-big-bang_tech |
| 21:16.07 | *** join/#sporewiki Tek0516 (~TekDroid@24.114.76.23) |
| 21:16.24 | Technobliterator | I posted |
| 21:17.07 | Imperios | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Ages/March_of_the_Apocalypse/Descension/Final_Battle#The_Jailed_is free_-_Imperios'_story Talk about forgotten plotlines |
| 21:18.50 | Cyrannian | The Pure Problems is strong with this one. |
| 21:18.56 | Wormy_ | I love that "The universe loses track of how big it is" |
| 21:20.36 | Wormy_ | My sections used to be awful |
| 21:20.40 | Wormy_ | "t is well known that the Nanohorde can fill vacuums. As the allies and Xhodocto were fighting, the Nanohorde were assimilating Xhodocto technology, making them more dangerous than ever. With the new technology, the Nanohorde will soon fill up the power vacuum that was left behind..." |
| 21:21.01 | Xho | Xhodocto - now why the hell would you do that |
| 21:21.03 | Imperios | "But at other side, something far more dark has returned, unknown to the world. The shadowy laugh sounded in the ears of all creatures of the world - a victorious laugh. Something worse that Kamik-Shi was unleashed." |
| 21:21.10 | Imperios | I actually remember what that something was BTW |
| 21:21.21 | Technobliterator | Ultimately, I'm upset because this whole thing was my fault |
| 21:21.35 | Xho | Technobliterator: Trust me, it wasn't |
| 21:21.36 | The_Randomness | omg techno y u do dis |
| 21:21.38 | The_Randomness | Kappa |
| 21:21.43 | Xho | You got mixed up in it |
| 21:22.10 | Technobliterator | I shouldn't have made the titanpad open |
| 21:22.23 | Technobliterator | and linked on the main channel |
| 21:22.37 | Xho | I hate to say it but I think it was Oluap's misconduct that caused a problem |
| 21:22.44 | Xho | It's just a big no no to tell a user to fuck off |
| 21:22.45 | Cyrannian | I distinctly remember when a Xhodocto referred to Kilnok as an "insect", it was during my Junior Cert when I was 15 or something and I remember thinking that was so cool while walking down to school |
| 21:23.05 | Xho | Cyrannian: Xhodocto - well what is he then a puppy |
| 21:23.11 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 21:23.32 | Xho | As much as I <3 Oluap, I can't accept that kind of behaviour |
| 21:23.35 | Xho | It's not on |
| 21:24.01 | Imperios | Xho: Anyway thing that was supposed to wake up was the living incarnation of anarchy and conflict |
| 21:24.10 | drom | I've butted in a message in Xho's rant. But I doubt if it is a proper contribution to the discussion |
| 21:24.11 | Technobliterator | I don't blame him for being annoyed, I also don't blame him for being annoyed at a user telling him to "shut up you little brat", even if I do think there were better ways to word a request to leave |
| 21:24.16 | Xho | Santorakh - BINGO CHEESELORD |
| 21:24.25 | Technobliterator | but the point is, I invited it with my own carlessness |
| 21:24.35 | Xho | Well no Vincent's response wasn't brilliantly orchestrated either |
| 21:24.40 | Imperios | It was ultimately to be connected with the Millenis |
| 21:24.51 | Xho | Santorakh - BINGO MILLENIS CHEESELORD |
| 21:25.11 | Xho | Seriously though I wouldn't sweat it if you left an open link |
| 21:25.20 | Xho | You're not responsible for how users behave |
| 21:25.42 | Technobliterator | The incident basically killed my motivation for the plot, but I'll still continue it, even if I do have to make revisions |
| 21:26.13 | Imperios | Millenis were basically creatures of pure chaos |
| 21:26.24 | Imperios | Based on the Skaven |
| 21:26.54 | drom | Did this happen today or what? |
| 21:27.18 | Technobliterator | A few days back |
| 21:27.56 | Technobliterator | we were in an RP, vincent showed up uninvited, Oluap told him to leave with "fuck off", he responded with "shut up you little brat", continued flaming for a bit, then Oluap left, and the whole thing collapsed |
| 21:28.01 | Imperios | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Creature%3AMillenis&diff=360103&oldid=322839 Hell this is actually a very interesting thing |
| 21:28.14 | drom | Either way, regarding adminship. I don't think I behave well enough for adminship. Unless someone disagrees with me. |
| 21:28.28 | Xho | Imperios: Xhodocto - creations pls |
| 21:28.37 | The_Randomness | drom: pleb 4 life |
| 21:28.43 | The_Randomness | this is your fate |
| 21:28.45 | drom | ;-; |
| 21:29.40 | Imperios | Hell why did I even abandon them |
| 21:29.44 | Imperios | They are pretty cool |
| 21:29.48 | Xho | Xhodocto - CREATIONS PLS |
| 21:29.56 | Xho | Making the Millenis Chaos Monsters could work |
| 21:30.08 | Imperios | Chaos monsters = tiny cowardly lobster people |
| 21:30.21 | Xho | Santorakh - it's a possibility |
| 21:30.28 | Xho | Hell just Santorakh in general |
| 21:30.32 | Imperios | Them being influenced by the Xhodocto is a possibility |
| 21:31.01 | drom | Imperios: That's new indeed |
| 21:31.06 | Imperios | They were like tiny cute but crazy people |
| 21:31.18 | Imperios | With a thing for commerce and the like |
| 21:31.18 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Four_Great_Clans |
| 21:31.53 | Xho | Last edited: September 7th 2010 |
| 21:31.59 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Commented |
| 21:32.01 | Xho | NIGGA DAT OLD |
| 21:32.30 | drom | Xho Imperios: Everyone, halt |
| 21:32.46 | drom | This is obviously an ancient artifact of Sporewiki's past |
| 21:33.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | makes it a Wiki Heritage Site |
| 21:33.53 | drom | Lock the page |
| 21:34.01 | Imperios | Oooh |
| 21:34.04 | drom | So Greenpeace cannot touch it |
| 21:34.14 | Imperios | drom: That is not an ancient artifact |
| 21:34.15 | Xho | July 27th, 2010 |
| 21:34.19 | Imperios | That's like Medieval at best |
| 21:34.23 | Xho | Not old enough to be a Concept |
| 21:34.39 | Xho | You'd have to go back to early 2009 to have Concept pages |
| 21:34.46 | drom | Imperios: STILL AN HISTORICAL ARTIFACT |
| 21:34.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 21:34.50 | Xho | I don't know how many fictions were once Concepts |
| 21:34.55 | Xho | The Xhodocto and SSA are |
| 21:34.59 | Xho | Anything from that time |
| 21:35.02 | Imperios | drom: http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Creature%3ARadeon&diff=152195&oldid=147826 Now THAT is an ancient artifact |
| 21:35.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | Well if its only 2010 I say we still stage historical reenactments in it |
| 21:35.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | 2009 and its out of the public |
| 21:35.13 | Monet | I think the Theians used to be a concept page before I reworked them. |
| 21:35.33 | Xho | Dunno, I think Concepts were phased out in 2009 |
| 21:35.39 | Xho | Could've been much later, I dunno |
| 21:35.40 | Xho | I forget |
| 21:35.41 | Imperios | I remember me when I wrote them |
| 21:35.43 | Cyrannian | I think it was "Content:" |
| 21:35.48 | drom | Imperios: Those goddamn dwarf radeon |
| 21:35.49 | Xho | Or Content |
| 21:35.50 | Imperios | I had a thing for Dune and Dan Brown |
| 21:35.54 | Xho | I CANNAE REMEMBER CAPTAIN |
| 21:35.55 | Monet | Cyrannian: More likely that |
| 21:35.56 | Imperios | drom: That's the original version of the Rades |
| 21:36.10 | drom | Big googly eyes too |
| 21:36.44 | Cyrannian | (I said "I think it was" to be polite hur) It was "Content:" |
| 21:36.59 | Monet | It was COntent |
| 21:37.01 | Xho | The current Xhodocto page isn't the first Xhodocto page so I can't be sure |
| 21:37.05 | Xho | oh |
| 21:37.05 | Monet | I checked the history. |
| 21:37.19 | Monet | Xho: I mean for the THeians |
| 21:37.26 | Xho | oh |
| 21:37.36 | Xho | takes a look |
| 21:37.42 | Xho | You've been here since 2011 |
| 21:37.43 | Xho | wtf |
| 21:38.03 | Monet | August 2011 |
| 21:38.10 | Xho | Could've sworn it was 2013 |
| 21:38.10 | Ghel | There were Concepts and Contents. Concepts were pre-Spore. |
| 21:38.17 | Monet | That's when I first came on the wiki |
| 21:38.18 | Monet | No wait I lie |
| 21:38.23 | Imperios | Yes the original Radeon concept was some sort of misshapen radioactive Rades mutants |
| 21:38.36 | Monet | I first joined the wiki in 2009 as Tachyon12 |
| 21:39.12 | Imperios | drom: http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Creature%3AOld_Xhodocto&diff=110591&oldid=110586 And that is basically the Egypt of SporeWiki |
| 21:39.13 | Technobliterator | Concepts were phased out once Spore was released |
| 21:39.24 | Technobliterator | The namespace was deleted, as was the content within it, and users whined |
| 21:39.29 | Tek0516 | Huh, I will hit my 3 year mark in less than two weeks. |
| 21:39.58 | Technobliterator | Content was a namespace created before we had Fiction, Creature, Vehicle, etc... |
| 21:40.05 | Xho | Hell where did you find that from |
| 21:40.06 | Imperios | Xho: "Could there be hope after all?" |
| 21:40.11 | Imperios | >Xho |
| 21:40.12 | Imperios | >Hope |
| 21:40.14 | Xho | Xhodocto - lol no get fucked |
| 21:40.16 | Technobliterator | It was split into several different namespaces |
| 21:40.33 | Xho | That was back when they were tied to the game |
| 21:40.36 | Xho | Now..well |
| 21:40.38 | Xho | Not so much |
| 21:40.50 | Imperios | >The Xhodocto accquired the Staff of Life through Steve, and possibly used it to terraform all their colonies to a T3. |
| 21:40.52 | Imperios | Ohgod |
| 21:41.11 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 21:41.22 | Xho | c |
| 21:41.25 | Xho | game |
| 21:41.48 | Xho | Most of the stuff there still rings out in the current canon |
| 21:42.10 | drom | Imperios: I'm disappointed you didn't call it a artifact before Big Bang was a thing. |
| 21:42.44 | Xho | But yeah, that day was the day I began my terrible reign on the wiki |
| 21:42.46 | Imperios | drom: That would be the Naucean |
| 21:42.52 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Creature%3AGrimbolsaurian&diff=80881&oldid=77187 And that's a caveman artifact |
| 21:42.54 | Xho | And it ended the day after that |
| 21:43.46 | drom | The only time when Xhodocto was a running gag |
| 21:43.51 | drom | Is this a miracle or what |
| 21:44.10 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction%3ARambo_Nation&diff=122364&oldid=122362 Here you go, Babylon |
| 21:44.12 | Xho | That was a time before the Xhodocto |
| 21:44.18 | Imperios | "The Great and Glorious Nation of Rambo Nation. This Nation is filled with pride and it's history is filled with glory, drama, wars, heroes etc. In later history they became the founders of the Noble Alliance and the most promiment and powerful member of it. " |
| 21:44.21 | Imperios | >Great and Glorious |
| 21:44.30 | Imperios | Little did we know, dino is North Korean |
| 21:44.30 | Xho | Shit that's looking at some real nostalgia |
| 21:44.37 | drom | Xho: Time before time |
| 21:44.39 | Xho | I remember looking at that as it did then |
| 21:45.31 | Imperios | drom: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/23/Natra_galaxy.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081221192120 OBSERVE CAVEMAN ART |
| 21:45.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Imperios: Now the only question is- Where is Sumer? |
| 21:45.47 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Sumer hm |
| 21:45.49 | Monet | This all feels like the exploration of an old world |
| 21:45.58 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 21:46.03 | drom | My godness |
| 21:46.04 | Xho | I feel really old now wiki-wise |
| 21:46.07 | drom | what am I looking at |
| 21:46.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | I sorta wish I was a user back then. Seemed like a nice time |
| 21:46.27 | drom | Why wasn't I born few years earlier? |
| 21:46.33 | Xho | Then again I have been here since the start of the Fiction Universe, so myself and a few others are literally Father Time |
| 21:46.36 | drom | To explore Sporewiki |
| 21:46.46 | DrodoEmpire_ | The *super* early wiki's an interesting thing |
| 21:47.07 | drom | I'm certain Wormy_ knows the "good ol" times when sporecreate was a thing |
| 21:47.09 | Xho | It was an interesting time |
| 21:47.26 | Ghel | This is all so ancient, in fact, that it long predates the use of RPs for writing stories. |
| 21:47.27 | Xho | None of us knew what we were doing then |
| 21:47.34 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Indoctrinate_Collective?diff=next&oldid=57746 Observe, Sumer |
| 21:47.41 | Imperios | We were all retarded kids back then |
| 21:47.58 | Imperios | "When the Dracogonarious started to live in tribes, they discovered a much more powerful creature: The Marinars. Marinars controlled 80% of the world's water supply, and they weren't going to share it!" |
| 21:48.07 | Xho | dem cheeky cunts |
| 21:48.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | With any luck, I'll find the clay tablet it was originally written on |
| 21:48.09 | Imperios | That's like Dune |
| 21:48.34 | Cyrannian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57pLukdb2kI - true nostalgia feels |
| 21:48.42 | Xho | Drom: Sporecreate as in the blog? |
| 21:48.59 | drom | Pretty sure there was a wiki, least what Wormy_ says |
| 21:49.02 | Imperios | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Surdana WHAT IS THI |
| 21:49.03 | Xho | "Five years. Five fucking years. Time sure passes fast." |
| 21:49.03 | Imperios | THIS |
| 21:49.31 | drom | It even got a spinning gif |
| 21:49.48 | Cyrannian | Homeworld of the Draken, it's still canon |
| 21:49.51 | drom | It has even |
| 21:49.53 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Libertus?diff=prev&oldid=142919 drom: Observe the Minoan civilisation |
| 21:50.07 | Ghel | New thing to put on your to-do list, Cyr. That page has only one edit from you, in 2009. |
| 21:50.09 | Imperios | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Thanta What about these folks |
| 21:50.13 | Xho | Back when the Xhodocto had feathery wings |
| 21:50.16 | drom | All the images are so dead |
| 21:50.32 | Xho | To put it into perspective, the Drakodominatus Tyranny is what the Xhodocto were like in 2010 |
| 21:50.42 | Ghel | In an alternative universe, the Thanta became what Dvotties are to us. |
| 21:50.54 | Cyrannian | "Capricorn is a temperate planet hat is 82% covered in water." Temperate planet hats are the best type of hats if you ask me |
| 21:51.02 | The_Randomness | I agree |
| 21:51.25 | Cyrannian | Imperios: Completely forgot about those guys |
| 21:51.28 | drom | "planet hat" |
| 21:51.44 | Xho | Imperios knows too much |
| 21:51.45 | Xho | silence |
| 21:52.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets?oldid=77074 - Seems I found the Shang |
| 21:52.08 | drom | The chrono-cops are coming |
| 21:52.31 | Xho | DrodoEmpire_: The terrifying thing about that is that all of that is still canon |
| 21:52.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh jeez |
| 21:52.56 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire_: Let's get down to business |
| 21:53.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | ? |
| 21:53.23 | Imperios | Shang |
| 21:53.24 | Imperios | from Mulan |
| 21:53.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | Shang dynasty |
| 21:53.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | First known Chinese nation |
| 21:53.55 | Imperios | Wasn't that the Xia |
| 21:54.01 | DrodoEmpire_ | Xia are semi-mythical |
| 21:54.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | There's little evidence they called themselves the Xia |
| 21:54.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Or that anyone like Yu the Great ever lived |
| 21:54.37 | drom | Wormy_: Let's do the planning? |
| 21:54.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | The shang are the first we know for *sure* existed |
| 21:56.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Like I mean, not to ramble but there *was* a neolithic culture the Shang came from, but the Shang never called them the Xia, as far as we know the " |
| 21:56.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | *"Xia" never called themselves that either |
| 21:56.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | The Xia are only mentioned centuries later |
| 21:56.53 | Imperios | So like Xia are like the Homeric Greeks |
| 21:56.56 | Cyrannian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI - I could listen to this all day |
| 21:56.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | I suppose |
| 21:57.00 | drom | Guys, I've realised something |
| 21:57.09 | drom | You can give your own forum posts Kudos |
| 21:57.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah but its in pretty bad taste I imagine |
| 21:57.41 | Wormy_ | drom: I;m up for it |
| 21:57.47 | drom | g8 m8 |
| 21:57.54 | Ghel | Yeah. You can like your own posts on Facebook, too. |
| 21:57.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 21:58.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | drom: "Gait mate"? |
| 21:58.11 | drom | You can upvote your own posts on Reddit and Imgur too |
| 21:58.18 | drom | DrodoEmpire_: Accent |
| 21:58.25 | Imperios | Xho: "As long as the wiki doesn't get subject to an ad infinitum discussion on ethnicity" |
| 21:58.36 | Imperios | Little do you know that I will transform SporeWiki into EthnographyWiki |
| 21:58.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | D: |
| 21:58.41 | Xho | AAAH |
| 21:59.38 | Imperios | Come to think about I live in the wrong age |
| 21:59.44 | Imperios | Like it is cool to know stuff about modern ethnicities |
| 21:59.55 | Imperios | But I could live in 18th century |
| 21:59.59 | Imperios | I could find NEW ethnicities |
| 22:00.07 | drom | Sporewiki be like http://twaet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Im-okay-with-the-events-that-are-currently-unfolding.jpg |
| 22:00.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah its an interesting sort of thing to study |
| 22:00.08 | drom | right now |
| 22:00.18 | Imperios | I know what to do |
| 22:00.37 | Imperios | I will create a revolution in Russiam spurring regional separatism |
| 22:00.43 | Imperios | And in doing so split Russians into many new ethnicities |
| 22:01.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | sookah bleeat |
| 22:01.37 | drom | suekah bljet |
| 22:01.50 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 22:02.16 | Imperios | I will create a world where the Muscovites will say "suka blyat" and the Sibiryaks will say "suekah blaat" |
| 22:02.34 | drom | I win with the most accurate accent |
| 22:02.34 | Imperios | The Kubanites will say "kurva blyat" |
| 22:02.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | thats ebul |
| 22:03.07 | drom | poland |
| 22:03.10 | drom | do polish |
| 22:03.53 | Imperios | drom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaBVFV7xosI |
| 22:04.24 | drom | brutal |
| 22:04.31 | Ghel | So Russia is separated by ethnic warfare, the Soviet Union never forms, and so Germany wins WWII. I mean, that's the end result of all attempts at changing history, isn't it? |
| 22:04.38 | drom | and the audience goes mild |
| 22:05.32 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=User%3AXhodocto3546&diff=110588&oldid=110568 wow |
| 22:06.13 | Xho | I've been on this wiki since I was 14 |
| 22:06.13 | Ghel | "The Scourge of the Galaxy" - must have sounded frightening back then. |
| 22:06.23 | Xho | I'm going to be 22 this year |
| 22:06.27 | Xho | I NEED A LIFE |
| 22:06.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | >: |
| 22:06.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | Wait *that* long? :o |
| 22:06.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Wow |
| 22:06.49 | Xho | yup |
| 22:06.51 | drom | Imperios: The original video though, wasn't the teacher angry because the girl couldn't speak English? |
| 22:08.20 | Cyrannian | "Hello" - Xho, 2009 rt if u cri evertiem |
| 22:08.20 | Ghel | Xho: That's a third of your life you've spent here. |
| 22:08.33 | Xho | Sounds about right |
| 22:08.37 | Xho | that's to both |
| 22:08.48 | Xho | I'm almost literally part of the wood work |
| 22:08.51 | drom | Funny you say that, because I also spent third of my life on Spore |
| 22:08.59 | drom | So far |
| 22:09.01 | Ghel | I still have two years before I reach that. Only because I'm already nearly 22-and-a-half. |
| 22:09.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | I wonder what the average age of the wiki is |
| 22:09.16 | Xho | Ghel is not so older |
| 22:09.22 | Xho | Well we could work it out |
| 22:09.23 | drom | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jiorHa6Ppw |
| 22:09.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | As I stands I'd have to say everybody's either in their later teenage years or are already adult age |
| 22:09.41 | Xho | I'm 21, Cyrannian's 21, Ghel's 22, Wormy's 21, Oluap's 22 |
| 22:09.54 | drom | Going to turn 19 this year |
| 22:09.56 | Xho | Monet...23? |
| 22:10.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | So the older users are, surprisingly, *older* |
| 22:10.16 | Xho | Dino is at least 23 |
| 22:10.16 | Monet | Xho: I am 23 yes |
| 22:10.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Dino's 23? |
| 22:10.28 | Xho | Dino's the oldest user on the wiki |
| 22:10.28 | Monet | 24 in a few months |
| 22:10.30 | Xho | Age wise |
| 22:10.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | Wow |
| 22:10.36 | drom | What about Technobliterator |
| 22:10.37 | Xho | I forget how old he is though |
| 22:10.43 | Xho | Jo's 20 or thereabouts |
| 22:10.46 | Xho | 19 I think |
| 22:10.47 | Ghel | I thought Dino was already in his 20s several years ago. |
| 22:10.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Huh |
| 22:10.56 | drom | Pretty sure she said 19 last year something |
| 22:11.03 | Xho | Yeah I think Dino's at least 25 |
| 22:11.06 | drom | My bet on 19-20 |
| 22:11.11 | Technobliterator | I'm 19, yes |
| 22:11.38 | Xho | I think Dino was in his late teens when I joined, so we could assume 25 - 27 probably |
| 22:11.39 | drom | Well. Am I the only one "young"-fag around here with my 18? |
| 22:11.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | No I think not |
| 22:12.01 | Xho | Somarinoa is older than that I think |
| 22:12.04 | Xho | Though he's not active much |
| 22:12.12 | drom | What about the founder? |
| 22:12.16 | drom | And Ose |
| 22:12.19 | Xho | Zorlac? No one knows |
| 22:12.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | "The founder" |
| 22:12.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | Is he a god now? |
| 22:12.30 | The_Randomness | I'm 20, 21 in a couple months |
| 22:12.33 | The_Randomness | on 4/20 8) |
| 22:12.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | ayy lmao |
| 22:12.55 | The_Randomness | I was destined to be a memer |
| 22:12.55 | Ghel | The oldest users on the wiki, those legendary figures lost to history, I would guess were in their late teens at the least when they made the wiki. And that was about 10 years ago. |
| 22:13.22 | Xho | I'd assume Ose is probably in his mid-20s |
| 22:13.36 | Xho | Morgoth as well |
| 22:14.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Starting to think I might be the youngest consistent user here |
| 22:14.22 | drom | 19 on 6/17 |
| 22:14.45 | drom | I'm getting the feeling I'm the youngest of the mainstream club :< |
| 22:15.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | Well if you consider me part of said club, no, not at all. XD I'm 16 |
| 22:15.20 | Xho | Hachi is 19 |
| 22:15.30 | drom | Thank god |
| 22:15.40 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire_: Darn kids *waves walking stick around* |
| 22:15.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | >: |
| 22:15.44 | Xho | I've always wondered how old AdmiralPanda was |
| 22:15.59 | drom | I think Liquid_Ink is 19+ something |
| 22:16.05 | Xho | Something like that |
| 22:16.12 | Ghel | I think Panda's a year or so older than I am. He started uni before I did. |
| 22:16.22 | drom | I saw a selfie of him two years ago, something in his late teens |
| 22:16.28 | Xho | He is Australian though, I think they have different concepts of uni |
| 22:16.46 | Ghel | And Liquid seems to have recently started uni. |
| 22:16.48 | Wormy_ | Liquid is quite yooung |
| 22:17.01 | Xho | One user I miss? DarcySupremest |
| 22:17.02 | Wormy_ | Maybe 18 then |
| 22:17.07 | drom | How are Aussies when they start roll Uni? |
| 22:17.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | Xho: I do think he comes on sometimes |
| 22:17.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | I saw him on relatively recently |
| 22:17.20 | Xho | ~seen DarcySupremest |
| 22:17.22 | infobot | darcysupremest <3a6ed499@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.110.212.153> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 27d 8h 52m 32s ago, saying: 'I don't see much water'. |
| 22:17.24 | drom | We roll uni/college at 19-20 here on Sweden |
| 22:17.26 | Xho | 27 days |
| 22:17.27 | Xho | Not bad |
| 22:17.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Maybe I'm wrong |
| 22:17.43 | Xho | I kind of miss Irsk as well |
| 22:17.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ah. |
| 22:17.51 | DrodoEmpire | Him. |
| 22:17.54 | Ghel | It's easy to lose track of time here. One month ago can be "relatively recent" quite easily. |
| 22:17.54 | drom | I thought you were afraid of him? |
| 22:17.58 | Xho | Sort of |
| 22:18.09 | Ghel | Fear has turned to nostalgia. |
| 22:18.09 | DrodoEmpire | Bit of a prick if you ask me |
| 22:18.16 | Xho | His obsession with my stuff was quite intimidating |
| 22:18.17 | DrodoEmpire | But his fiction was alright |
| 22:18.17 | Wormy_ | Irsk was celebrating your birthday. Maybe there is room to rekindle friendship. |
| 22:18.23 | drom | I remember when you were stratled when you figured out that Irsk and Val subscribed to your youtube channel two years ago. |
| 22:18.43 | Xho | It is kind of weird |
| 22:18.56 | drom | New kind of weird |
| 22:19.03 | Wormy_ | But yeah I still chat to him on Steam |
| 22:19.10 | Xho | I wasn't so much of a fan having to rebuff him every time he went off on an obsessive episode |
| 22:19.20 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.30 | Xho | Bit mad |
| 22:19.38 | drom | GD12 |
| 22:19.39 | Cyrannian | Like, out of nowhere |
| 22:19.42 | drom | Came to think of him |
| 22:19.51 | Xho | He's more afraid of me than I'm afraid of him but I'm not the same user as I was a year back |
| 22:19.52 | Xho | Or two |
| 22:19.53 | drom | Prehaps in his young adults |
| 22:19.53 | Xho | Or three |
| 22:20.01 | Xho | GD12 I think is 20 ish |
| 22:20.03 | drom | Because he isn't much active |
| 22:20.09 | Xho | He does university |
| 22:20.12 | drom | Yeah |
| 22:20.36 | drom | I'm rolling for university this autnumn, so bye bye in few months |
| 22:20.48 | Xho | I'm hoping to go to uni next year |
| 22:20.58 | Xho | End of next year that is |
| 22:21.02 | Xho | So mostly 2018 - 2021 |
| 22:21.10 | Xho | 2021 |
| 22:21.14 | Xho | man dat sounds futuristic |
| 22:21.23 | drom | Applying for a 5 year long endless study |
| 22:21.31 | drom | Bye bye fiction indeed |
| 22:21.36 | Xho | sad times |
| 22:21.51 | drom | So I'm out of the cave not until 2021 |
| 22:22.05 | Xho | I don't know what the wiki will be like by 2021 |
| 22:22.14 | drom | You and me ;) |
| 22:22.16 | Xho | Hopefully (just hopefully) a second Spore release is out by then |
| 22:22.28 | Xho | And then the XHODOCTO WILL REIGN SUPREME |
| 22:22.32 | Xho | AGAIN |
| 22:23.09 | drom | Or Sporewiki has become ad-riddled website |
| 22:23.43 | DrodoEmpire | Another spore title would be the shit |
| 22:23.47 | drom | Full of unnecessary features covering half the screen and an ad promoting you to browse it on mobile.. |
| 22:23.49 | DrodoEmpire | Or maybe not, depends |
| 22:23.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 22:24.12 | DrodoEmpire | Could be like Rome 2 |
| 22:24.13 | drom | Or an actual playable serious remake of Spore |
| 22:24.25 | drom | Looking at Thrive |
| 22:24.32 | drom | But they got cancelled? |
| 22:24.38 | DrodoEmpire | I'm *really* excited for Stellaris and No Man's Sky |
| 22:24.45 | Xho | I always have floating ideas of a second Spore release though it's not really Spore |
| 22:24.49 | Xho | No Man's Sky tho |
| 22:24.53 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^^^^^ |
| 22:25.10 | DrodoEmpire | They actually have a proper release date now |
| 22:25.19 | Xho | My idea of a second Spore release doesn't really entail an evolutionary game as much as it would a multiplayer shooter mwahaha |
| 22:25.43 | Xho | Although the creative boundary of it would be limitless, right down to a world editor |
| 22:25.50 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
| 22:25.59 | Xho | So literally *every* aspect of it would be customisable |
| 22:26.03 | Monet | I recall there was that Sporewiki MMO idea |
| 22:26.24 | DrodoEmpire | And I many, *many* attempts at a SporeWiki EUIV <.< |
| 22:26.29 | DrodoEmpire | *And my |
| 22:26.44 | DrodoEmpire | I'll try a mod of SW for Stellaris though |
| 22:26.48 | DrodoEmpire | Better game for it |
| 22:26.56 | Xho | The kind of idea I had would have been some ungodly mix between Spore, Borderlands and Halo |
| 22:27.09 | Monet | Wait let me upload it. I was doing an orthograph for a Sporewiki-related 3D model today. |
| 22:27.23 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - *press X to flip cavalry horse upright* |
| 22:27.32 | Xho | Mahanayan - neigh |
| 22:27.52 | Xho | Though I always had this concept of a very advanced adventure editor, so playing through it would basically be an episodic story mode |
| 22:27.59 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be cool |
| 22:28.19 | Xho | Right down to like cutscenes and cinematics |
| 22:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
| 22:28.46 | Xho | Although with a very intuitive interface as to not to get stumped with the learning curve |
| 22:29.00 | Ghel | That sounds quite like what I've imagined you've been describing. All Spore editors made better + more editors + multiplayer + more powerful guns. |
| 22:29.13 | Xho | pretty much |
| 22:29.20 | drom | And blaster acutally shooting actual bolts |
| 22:29.31 | Xho | I might write up a huge concept article on it some day |
| 22:29.46 | drom | Every gun, regardless their apperance or shape, what they imply, always shot rockets |
| 22:29.53 | drom | Which bothered me for long |
| 22:30.03 | Xho | I imagine you could go right down to weapon editors, vehicle editors, armour editors etc as well |
| 22:30.15 | Xho | Literally customise everything as a unique staple of a faction |
| 22:30.39 | Xho | Building editors, world editors |
| 22:30.43 | Monet | That's a lot of procedural content |
| 22:30.47 | Xho | mucho |
| 22:30.52 | drom | Yeah. That'd take ages to develop |
| 22:31.01 | Monet | Well computers are certainly getting powerful |
| 22:31.11 | Xho | It's not very feasible since the processing power required to run something like that would be costly |
| 22:31.15 | Monet | Might take ages and tens of millions of dollars |
| 22:31.38 | drom | I know software development, and knowing how modelling tools are made. It'd take ages to develop a game of same calibre as 3Ds Max |
| 22:31.54 | drom | Cause maths, vertices and blah |
| 22:31.57 | Xho | Spore with top-grade graphics though, jesus |
| 22:32.05 | Xho | Kicath scariness level +500% |
| 22:32.37 | drom | And no stupid cartoonish eyes or clay blobs with parts non-sensually slapped on |
| 22:33.07 | Xho | I could also imagine some sort of marketplace |
| 22:33.13 | drom | ugh |
| 22:33.14 | Xho | With some in-game currency |
| 22:33.31 | drom | I don't like the idea of "marketplaces" to publish your content |
| 22:33.36 | drom | Call those workshops, please. |
| 22:33.41 | Xho | Perhaps just a developer marketplace then |
| 22:34.06 | drom | *eye twitch* |
| 22:34.07 | Xho | Or just optional |
| 22:34.08 | drom | NO |
| 22:34.15 | Xho | its my idea go fuk urself |
| 22:34.56 | Monet | drom's the programmer |
| 22:35.07 | Xho | I dunno though, I think there would have to be limits upon what players could do |
| 22:35.10 | drom | I know my stuff |
| 22:35.34 | Xho | Perhaps implement some sort of levelling system as to limit freedoms |
| 22:35.39 | Xho | So higher levels get higher-tiered stuff |
| 22:35.44 | Xho | As do most games |
| 22:36.26 | Xho | Although multiplayer would have to rely on as much as fair levelling as possible |
| 22:36.45 | Xho | Unless you'd get some crazy Level 150 psycho with god-mode gear going into a Level 1 game |
| 22:36.52 | Xho | Which is what I'd do but still |
| 22:38.01 | Xho | As executive game guy I get full liberties because FUK N00BS |
| 22:38.11 | drom | Sorry dude, I cannot catch up you anymore |
| 22:38.20 | Monet | Check back with me Wednesday but I have this that I might turn into a 3D model https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mtUmK1ajBMg/VsEAIUoJFhI/AAAAAAAAC0o/l7gFon5Ptfw/s1600/Creature%2BDesign%2BOrthograph.png |
| 22:38.27 | drom | Your idea is too optimistic |
| 22:38.37 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Ooh |
| 22:38.48 | Xho | Reminds me of a video where Robin Walker appears in TF2 and kills everyone with a rapid fire rocket launcher |
| 22:39.06 | drom | Monet: Oh. Why the two arms though? |
| 22:39.22 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfv8HrTZzkk This one |
| 22:39.41 | Monet | drom: I talked with a guest tutor and he suggested one of those arms could be retractable wings |
| 22:40.03 | drom | one pair? |
| 22:40.18 | Xho | But yeah like I said the amount of liberty is unfeasible |
| 22:40.27 | Xho | There'd have to be a lot of laws in place to prevent unfairness |
| 22:40.42 | drom | Sorry about being fiddly with words there, Monet. But you meant one pair, not "one"? |
| 22:40.42 | Ghel | And we haven't even talked about including proper space battles in the game too. |
| 22:40.51 | Xho | SPACESHIPS |
| 22:40.57 | Monet | drom: Yes |
| 22:41.02 | drom | We haven't talked about produceral planets, nebulas, universes or even galaxies |
| 22:41.14 | drom | Or even real-scale universe |
| 22:41.19 | Xho | I wouldn't expect it to go that far |
| 22:41.24 | Xho | World editors would have a limited size |
| 22:41.30 | drom | Imagine your computer storing all the information of one whole observable universe |
| 22:41.44 | drom | And processing all of it real-time |
| 22:41.52 | Monet | Elite Dangerous simulates about 400 billion stars across 100,000 LY but even it takes artistic liberties. |
| 22:41.55 | Xho | Your computer could handle it, kek |
| 22:41.57 | Ghel | One galaxy with one trillion stars should be more than enough. |
| 22:42.26 | Technobliterator | I'm going to post on the thread properly |
| 22:42.34 | Xho | Just for now I think adventures and stuff would suit us well |
| 22:42.48 | Monet | Technobliterator: About this? |
| 22:42.49 | Ghel | By the sounds of it, actual Spore-like gameplay would be little more than a minigame in the whole scheme of things. |
| 22:42.51 | drom | Technobliterator: Going to admit that my reply to Oluap's was bald. |
| 22:43.06 | Technobliterator | Yeah, I was going advise against that, drom |
| 22:43.11 | Xho | I think a SporeWiki-oriented MMO/MMORPG is possible |
| 22:43.14 | Technobliterator | It could easily be perceived as provocation |
| 22:43.21 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 22:43.27 | Technobliterator | I don't know if provocation is even a word |
| 22:43.31 | Technobliterator | it probably isn't |
| 22:43.32 | drom | It is |
| 22:43.33 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 22:43.36 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 22:43.37 | Technobliterator | eh |
| 22:43.44 | drom | You're fine |
| 22:44.25 | Jepardi | So I did a little concept thingy for Fantasyverse http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jepardi/Sandbox |
| 22:44.46 | Ghel | reads it |
| 22:46.32 | Cyrannian | Very nice work |
| 22:46.46 | drom | Jepardi: I love how great your work is, and how humble you are. Keep it up man! |
| 22:48.35 | Jepardi | Thanks, means a lot. |
| 22:51.30 | drom | Ghel Wormy_: Once again, which method do you see fit the best when I need to publish my WoA prologue? |
| 22:51.36 | Ghel | So: Mages use arcane magic directly from the Source, and Druids use ambient magic in a way that sounds like its somehow disconnected from the Source. The other three use different magical schools directly, not via arcane magic, and are differentiated based on what schools they use. |
| 22:51.53 | Ghel | drom: Do you mean, should you do it as a WoA subpage or its own page? |
| 22:52.38 | Ghel | Looks like a decent classification to me. |
| 22:52.52 | drom | Ghel: Or butt in someone else's WoA subpage with their consent? Whichever way works the best for us. |
| 22:53.13 | drom | Making its own WoA subpage a bit of a stretch for its length, imo. |
| 22:53.36 | Wormy_ | Why not? I did |
| 22:53.37 | Ghel | The only subpages I know of so far are the Prologue and the Great Expedition. It might fit into the Prologue; you'd have to ask Xho and/or Jo about that. |
| 22:54.13 | Jepardi | Ghel: In the most broadest of terms, druids scrape the leftover magic left by some magical anomaly and then use as their own. |
| 22:54.54 | Ghel | Right. Well, yeah; I don't see why that couldn't be made canon. |
| 22:55.07 | Wormy_ | Here's a little piece I did that can be put on the Tigris War page later http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Scrapbook#WoA_draft_1_-_Total_war |
| 22:55.10 | drom | Yeah. That's a pretty clever concept |
| 22:55.33 | Ghel | As it is, it looks like it could just be placed straight onto the Source page as its own section. |
| 22:56.39 | drom | Xho Monet Wormy_: https://i.imgur.com/DdklhE3.gifv |
| 22:56.47 | drom | Xho: Floof http://i.imgur.com/7mJEdkI.gifv |
| 22:57.05 | Monet | Fennec FOxes are really eneergetic. |
| 22:57.12 | Xho | floof |
| 22:57.26 | Jepardi | Well I'll go ahead and it to the page. |
| 22:57.47 | Wormy_ | its like a little grey alien in comparison |
| 22:58.22 | drom | I remember seeing a gif of a fennec doing 10 jumps forward and back from the ledge of a couch to the other. It under 4 seconds |
| 22:59.46 | drom | Monet: Oh, I forgot that Draconis actually have four arms, the bigger pair being the wings. |
| 22:59.47 | drom | Stupid me |
| 23:00.26 | Monet | drom: Yeah I got bored drawing bat wings all the time |
| 23:00.51 | drom | I was politically correct all along |
| 23:00.54 | drom | Nooog |
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| 23:02.07 | Monet | SO I thought "I know, I'll hide the wingsi n the arms somehow" |
| 23:02.28 | drom | Oh hai |
| 23:04.00 | Wormy_ | I'm pretty gutted Space Engine and Dpore stopped working properly. No more creations or images to go with fiction. |
| 23:04.06 | Wormy_ | *Spore |
| 23:04.08 | Wormy_ | Hello |
| 23:04.27 | Wormy_ | I could try putting them on my laptop |
| 23:04.35 | Cyrannian | About the TitanPad incident, it should be noted that Vincent did not enter the pad under his wiki username, it shouldn't be seen as a personal attack on him |
| 23:04.49 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: Speaking of which, I got Space Engine to work on my new computer |
| 23:05.26 | Wormy_ | Titanpad incident, does someone mind telling me what happened, and if it was related to earlier? Possible in private if no-one wants to talk about it here. |
| 23:05.49 | Wormy_ | That's brilliant |
| 23:06.01 | drom | See Olaup and Hachi's replys. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:210379 |
| 23:06.07 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: Oh? I didn't know that |
| 23:06.09 | Wormy_ | In the interim, I might ask if people can make images for me until I've fixed the two games. |
| 23:06.12 | drom | They explain their side of the situation |
| 23:06.36 | DrodoEmpire | So what Oluap did is still a little rude, but otherwise he is blameless |
| 23:06.43 | drom | DrodoEmpire Cyrannian: Yes, you can actually erase your cookies before going in, gaining a new anonymous identity |
| 23:07.06 | drom | It isn't that hard actually |
| 23:07.21 | Cyrannian | I'm not saying it was an anonymous identity, simply that his name wasn't "Vincent" when he joined the Pad |
| 23:07.39 | DrodoEmpire | At any rate, the role of an admin is to moderate, like Xho said |
| 23:07.41 | DrodoEmpire | That's my stance |
| 23:07.59 | DrodoEmpire | Seems to be working so far, even if unfortunate things happen every once and a while |
| 23:08.04 | drom | But still, it is very apparent Vincent himself did do join the pad. Since Oluap later stated that they apologized to each other. |
| 23:08.12 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 23:08.23 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.24 | drom | In private that is |
| 23:08.50 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.54 | drom | forever a pleb |
| 23:09.03 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Still, if they apologized afterwards and he didn't know, then while I don't support the telling of people to fuck off I'm not going to chastise Oluap for it |
| 23:09.15 | DrodoEmpire | He did what he did its whatever |
| 23:09.25 | DrodoEmpire | We've all done stuff |
| 23:10.34 | Technobliterator | Sorry, but this does not require a witchhunt |
| 23:10.50 | DrodoEmpire | ...I know |
| 23:11.00 | DrodoEmpire | That's why I'm saying we shouldn't mention it |
| 23:11.10 | drom | If the pretaterator is identified and confirmed, then the case is closed. |
| 23:11.19 | DrodoEmpire | The real issue at hand is the role of an admin on the wiki |
| 23:11.31 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.49 | drom | I think I'm going to keep a distance from the forum for now |
| 23:12.12 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.29 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:31.14 | Monet | hi |
| 23:31.22 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 23:31.30 | drom | Hello |
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| 23:46.06 | Xho | So Toronto is experiencing -26 C with a windchill of -39 C |
| 23:46.11 | Xho | HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE THERE |
| 23:47.09 | DrodoEmpire | I don't. :D |
| 23:47.23 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah weather's been brutal lately |
| 23:47.41 | DrodoEmpire | Over where I live there's been a few blizzards lately |
| 23:47.50 | DrodoEmpire | Not nearly as bad as last year, though |
| 23:50.05 | Xho | Right well today ended better than it could have |
| 23:50.12 | Xho | sleepy times |
| 23:50.32 | Cyrannian | Aye, glad that's sorted |
| 23:50.55 | Tek0516 | is in the Toronto area |
| 23:51.33 | Monet | Tek0516: How are you surviving |
| 23:53.00 | Tek0516 | Well for one it's at least 10°C warmer than that presently, Xho's description was a couple days ago. :P |
| 23:55.27 | OpelSpeedster | I actually have been thinking about visiting or moving to Toronto someday. The news that it gets -26°C is making me a bit nervous. |
| 23:56.23 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.53 | OpelSpeedster | I think you could make for a nice moderator. |
| 23:57.57 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.02 | Wormy_ | My jaw dropped https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S5_0014%2B81#Supermassive_black_hole |
