IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160206

00:00.56ZF101Jepardi, you've inspired me to start trying my hand at spore again. This stuff is awesome. ^^
00:02.37XhoTechnobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12654204_2545995035455732_1519013585390215607_n.jpg?oh=be0da91b0610f53ab8e049f22c4d0418&oe=57692FBF I just found you
00:02.44OluapPlayerkek
00:02.55Technobliteratorhahahahahaha
00:03.05TechnobliteratorThis is pretty accurate
00:03.08The_Randomnesstechno is gril???
00:03.14OluapPlayerno
00:03.38OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: I ate a whole pizza for lunch today
00:03.39OluapPlayerb jelly
00:03.50TechnobliteratorI ate half a pizza for lunch today!
00:03.58Xho5/10 good effort
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00:07.07dromBitch, I ate two pizzas
00:08.17XhoOfficerJackal: What does a Hal'Sk look like exactly
00:08.28ZF101I top all of you, I eat 3!
00:08.45CyrannianI ate Italy, so excuse u all
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00:08.52XhoI was Italy
00:08.55WormydroidHi
00:09.10WormydroidBad trip?
00:09.25XhoNo there's some weird discussion going on
00:09.27OluapPlayerEvidently since Cyrannian ate him
00:09.33XhoThat too
00:09.38OluapPlayerUnless you're into that sort of thing
00:09.50CyrannianI'm very much into that sort of thing
00:09.55ZF101Oluap ate a pizza, techno ate half of one, drom ate 2, I are 3, and Cyrannian ate Xho.
00:10.02ZF101*ate
00:10.03WormydroidOh
00:10.04XhoAnd I was the country of origin
00:10.16ZF101Xho is Italy.
00:10.18Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apolithanat%C3%A1r - Everyone look at this, much effort was put into it
00:10.21dromXho is actually India
00:10.28dromCyrannian is going to have bad time on the toliet
00:10.32Xhoactuly india
00:11.06OluapPlayerCyrannian: >much effort         >page not dun
00:11.07OluapPlayerlais
00:11.11dromcurry is good laxative while you are at it
00:11.19WormydroidLol
00:11.47ZF101Love how Cy is demonstrating his great new character, and we're talking about laxatives.
00:11.52ZF101XD
00:12.27dromhow about I allah ackbar the shit out of you with my special plate of kebab?
00:12.35OluapPlayerI do like the poem
00:12.35XhoCyrannian: "Vectors of Chaos and Order"              Santorakh - and they're not mentioning us                        the cheese speaks not
00:13.03OluapPlayerhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/06/Akraksor.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206001039 this creature got quite shiny with the hi-res textures
00:13.03ZF101drom How about I rob robbing alcohol on yo momma.
00:13.11XhoI imagine Tyrone is scared of Lighty
00:13.19XhoOluapPlayer: rok
00:13.30XhoWorks well on that
00:13.38OluapPlayermore like magmu
00:13.44CyrannianHe most definitely probably is
00:13.57Monet_3Could be the Vectors of Chaos and Order are usurpers
00:14.03XhoI feel like translating that poem into some Cyrannian language
00:14.05Monet_3He disappeared, they rose in his place, now they fear his return.
00:14.09Wormydroid"I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.  And it burns, burns, burns.  The ring of fire" as the Johnny Cash song goes
00:14.16OluapPlayerdefinitely probably
00:14.18OluapPlayerya blew it
00:15.00CyrannianXho: if u do this I will marry you and bare your satanic hellspawn
00:15.01Monet_3They might fear him not because he's evil, but because his return means their positions of leadership are at risk.
00:15.04XhoExcellent
00:15.16OluapPlayerolol
00:15.40dromMonet_3 ZF101 Charles_Bot: I could need some feedback on ze model. It is not yet final to start. http://i.imgur.com/RSzClOL.png
00:16.03Monet_3C dis is why morrtals betta because we're not limited by prophecies.
00:16.40ZF101Very good. I'm getting a cat vibe from the face. I love the arms as well.
00:16.40Monet_3Also mortals betta because we're not limited ot having one eternal leader.
00:16.48CyrannianProphecy? Or mystical space magic cyclical time shenanigans?
00:17.11OluapPlayerLighty - all happened before and after etc
00:17.29Monet_3Drom: Lower half of the body is pretty good. The upper half I think you're right, could use a bit of improvement
00:18.21Monet_3Cyrannian: Both I guess. The pattern I'm seeing is Lighty guides, disappears for a bit, vectors of CHaos and Order toy abotu a bit, Lighty comes back ot set them straight, returns to his exile, ad infinitum.
00:18.57dromMonet_3: Any practiular improvement do you see fit?
00:20.01OluapPlayerSpore crashed
00:20.10OluapPlayerThis is like, the first time ever
00:20.14Monet_3repeat ad infinitum*
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00:20.53CyrannianThat's one way of looking at it, though perhaps not the way it actually occurs. In any case, the prophecy aspect doesn't exceed "all of this has happened before, all of it will happen again". In which, there are many possible futures, not all of which are set in stone.
00:21.21OluapPlayerI gotta say that is one part of your fiction I always liked
00:21.22OluapPlayerThat sentence
00:21.29OluapPlayerDon't even know why, I jsut do
00:21.38Charles_BotDrom_ is that Zaal?
00:22.16dromCharles_Bot: Maeiron
00:22.20Charles_BotAgh
00:22.21Monet_3Like the Oracle of Delphi, what is never in stone nor is it fated as to how the prophecy plays out, only that it does.
00:22.23Charles_BotAhh*
00:22.32dromNS' UGA delegate
00:22.41Charles_BotVery very impressive model
00:22.45CyrannianOluapPlayer: hur I didn't come up with it
00:22.53OluapPlayerasdf
00:22.58OluapPlayer~punish Cyrannian
00:22.58infobotACTION forces Cyrannian to install and use Windows
00:23.08Monet_3It from BSG.
00:23.29CyrannianThough I take comfort in the fact that the source I got it from got it from somewhere else, namely Peter Pan
00:23.48OluapPlayerAnteddy - WE'RE GOING TO BE KIDS FOREVER~
00:29.51XhoCyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Sandbox Eh well that's what I came up with
00:30.32XhoI used different phrases scattered around the wiki with Cyrannian names and just kind of picked apart what could be the meanings
00:31.32CyrannianOoh I liek
00:31.43Xhoeandrinveliarás for example I thought of as   e - [continuing] - andrin [life] - veliar - [keeper] - ás [masculine]
00:31.43Cyrannianbares Xho's hellspawn
00:31.46Xhoyuy
00:32.03CyrannianI wonder what language it could be, perhaps an ancient Libertus tongue
00:32.23XhoCould be
00:32.35XhoI used the word 'Apolithanatár' as 'eternal starlight'
00:33.20OluapPlayerLibertus - thats old libertish for "shut the fuck up"
00:33.24XhoOther bits I couldn't put together I messed around with Ancient Greek
00:33.34CyrannianHm, that could be what his name actually means
00:34.52XhoFor knowledge I used 'ame' which came from Amemoriam as it was a factory universe construct
00:36.35Cyrannianjeez you really did your research
00:36.46XhoWas the best part of 2 minutes
00:38.43Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/af/Thirteen_Capricornians.png/revision/latest?cb=20110819222957 Man this picture is a relic
00:38.53Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apolithanat%C3%A1r#Trivia - c
00:39.07CyrannianOnly one hasn't been changed
00:39.10OluapPlayerultra old skool
00:39.25Xhoyey
00:40.28XhoI've still got a gripe with the Xhodocto still being named Ayrai'Shikua
00:40.44OluapPlayerChange it then
00:40.48Technobliteratorplease don't change it
00:40.53TechnobliteratorI love the name as it is
00:40.59XhoIt's not part of the canon anymore really
00:41.01OluapPlayernu un cares for u lmao
00:41.03Technobliteratorand changing it would force me to do a massive bot job
00:41.10Technobliteratoras well as rename the Taldar and Traffphyd page
00:41.15Technobliteratorand probably the other godraces
00:41.15XhoThe Ayrai'Shikua is a race, but they're not the same race as the Xhodocto
00:41.21XhoIn the updated canon anyway
00:41.23Technobliteratorall stuff I really do not care to do
00:41.30OluapPlayerThen don't do it dumba
00:41.41XhoAyrai-Shi is probably their more updated name as well
00:41.44TechnobliteratorI would be forced to
00:41.56OluapPlayerNo one's forced to do anything here
00:42.06XhoAnd they're a dead race of Samut'angar that the Xhodocto likened themselves to after they wiped them out
00:42.23OluapPlayerAyrai-Shi - RUDE
00:42.26XhoWhich is now why Kan-Kun is in fact an actual Ayrai'Shikua/Ayrai-Shi and not a Proto-Xhodocto
00:42.26TechnobliteratorI'm not having my pages be inconsistent, or redlinks be left everywhere
00:43.06OluapPlayerComplaining about the red links is dumb when an automated system takes care of them]
00:43.19OluapPlayerYou renaming your pages is solely your want, no one is forcing you to do it
00:43.22OluapPlayerI know I'm not renaming mine
00:43.25XhoBut yeah the name 'Ayrai'Shikua' when referring ot the Xhodocto is no longer accurate
00:43.29Xhoto*
00:43.30MonetTechnobliterator: That's what redirects are for
00:43.35TechnobliteratorNO
00:43.37TechnobliteratorNO REDIRECTS
00:43.40TechnobliteratorIN FICTION NAMESPACE
00:43.41TechnobliteratorGOD
00:43.46TechnobliteratorHOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT
00:43.47Monet...okay
00:43.51OluapPlayerWhat the fuck
00:43.54OluapPlayerCalm the hell down
00:43.55Xhobot it is den
00:43.57Technobliteratoragggggggggggggggh
00:43.59Xhocatch 22 4 u
00:43.59Cyrannianhttp://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m141jal8Bj1rn95k2o1_500.gif
00:44.02Technobliteratorwell
00:44.04MonetWait
00:44.06TechnobliteratorI can't use the bot
00:44.06MonetWhen have you said it?
00:44.08OluapPlayerThe hell is your problem
00:44.16Technobliteratorbecause it's at my computer in uni
00:44.20Technobliteratorand I'm not there atm : |
00:44.33CyrannianI can do it with my bot
00:44.33OluapPlayerYou're not the only person with a bot here
00:44.39XhoMonet: Updated canon? Kind of been in the works ever since I decided to revamp my fiction...which was whenever
00:44.41XhoA while now
00:44.42Technobliteratoralright, CyraBot can do it
00:44.56XhoAlright rename is a go
00:45.01TechnobliteratorBOOOO
00:45.10OluapPlayerStop being bitchy already
00:45.12Technobliteratornow I'll have to find a consistent name for my two godraces
00:45.15Technobliteratorboooooo
00:45.34XhoDo I leave redirects or not
00:45.38OluapPlayerNo
00:45.44Technobliteratorno
00:45.48OluapPlayerNo redirects for fiction
00:45.57XhoSo all the subpages will be bot-changed as well
00:45.59Technobliteratorno fiction pages which lack content
00:46.04Technobliteratoryup
00:46.20TechnobliteratorI can't think of any instance where a subpage will be linked to but not the Ayrai'Shikua page, so that sohuld be fine
00:47.02Xhodam dis is slo
00:47.06CyrannianI shall cause widespread disruption. https://media.riffsy.com/images/baa0d94aaa9246d419e9254f4f678cf1/raw
00:47.29OluapPlayershup gay skelly
00:47.34Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xhodocto xhodocto r xhodocto confirmed
00:47.37Technobliteratoralso someone remind me not to use the IRC when tipsy again
00:47.42Technobliteratorit is not a very good idea
00:47.46Xhostahp drinkin u
00:47.46OluapPlayerOh fuck off
00:47.49OluapPlayerIs that what it is then
00:48.03Technobliteratormy defense is that I didn't know
00:48.05XhoThat page actually feels right now
00:48.06Technobliterator:  |
00:48.12CyrannianSo you want every instance of 'Ayrai'Shikua' to be changed to 'Xhodocto'? Or just the page title?
00:48.12Technobliteratorno, it feels wrong
00:48.15Technobliteratorwroooooooooong
00:48.21XhoCyrannian: Every instance would be better
00:48.28MonetTechnobliterator: THat might explai nthings
00:48.34Technobliteratormy nostalgia is all gone
00:48.36Technobliterator;___;
00:48.37Cyrannianrite
00:48.39WormydroidWow, never seen a drunk Jo
00:48.45WormydroidJoin the club
00:48.48OluapPlayerI hope this is the last time
00:48.54OluapPlayerBecause you're being incredibly annoying
00:49.21XhoIt's easier to write Xhodocto than Ayrai'Shikua as well
00:49.25CyrannianAll these drunk English people giving the Irish user a good name
00:49.32Technobliteratorhahahahaha
00:49.37MonetBut only tipsy?
00:49.44MonetHow much did you drink?
00:49.44Technobliteratoruh
00:49.46TechnobliteratorI have no idea
00:49.49Technobliteratornot a whole lot
00:49.55Xho1 sip of non-alcoholic beer
00:50.01Technobliteratorhence not really knowing
00:50.01Technobliteratorpft
00:50.01Technobliteratorpfffffft
00:50.03Wormydroid2good4 your own good
00:50.11Technobliteratoryeah I'm just gonna
00:50.15Technobliteratorsign off for now
00:50.21Technobliteratorbe back when i'm sobered up
00:50.24Xhosleep u dunce
00:50.56WormydroidI can't complain as I've been tipsy too tonight
00:51.06CyrannianOnly 1165 pages to go
00:51.15Xho1165 pages mention the Xhodocto
00:51.17XhoJesus Christ
00:51.34WormydroidDrink plenty of fluids to avoid hang over
00:51.41Technobliteratoroh one thing before I go
00:51.50Technobliteratorthe bot might crash on blog pages because blogs suuuuuuck
00:51.52CyrannianA bit less than that, as I also include "Xho's Fiction" and "OluapPlayer's Fiction" to be sure
00:51.55Technobliteratorso I'd make sure to remove any of those
00:52.02Cyrannian*included
00:52.09WormydroidSure they do
00:52.10dromDrodoEmpire Wormydroid Xho: No biggie news or contributions, but I thought you all would appreciate if ya knew about dis: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty#Relations
00:52.18Technobliteratoryeah that means some pages might be duped
00:52.26Technobliteratorso it's probably not quite 1k but it's close
00:52.28Technobliteratoranyways
00:52.32MonetCyrannian: DIdn't you once consider yourself an EU citizen first, Irish second?
00:52.32Technobliteratornow sign off for real
00:53.00DrodoEmpiredrom: Looks pretty nice
00:53.01CyrannianBoth on an equal level
00:53.08XhoDrom:  >Neutral                 Kicath - DARK ENERGY AKBAAAR
00:53.16Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=0 - Beholdeth
00:53.21DrodoEmpireI've thought about adopting that relations structure
00:54.00XhoCyrannian: geezush
00:54.08MonetDrom: I still worry that the close ties with the EMpire are going ot land the Nomatari in bad juju
00:54.35XhoKicath - left us with bad enough juju to kick our own god out of politics
00:55.12ZF101Mendel - Gud.
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00:56.09drom_Aaasasasasasdasgsfbdafgsdab<redhn rt
00:56.39Monetdrom_: One example is the Draconsi have an import embargo on goods from what is considered Imperial territory
00:56.44CyrannianThough the name change has resulted in stuff like this: "The Xhodocto, otherwise known as the Xhodocto"
00:56.51Xhohoh
00:56.55ZF101Win.
00:56.57Xhoright
00:57.12drom_Xhodocto love recrusive stuff anyway
00:57.52XhoXhodocto - yada yada yada chaos yada yada yada complete and utter erasure of your existence blah blah blah occasional cheese talk
00:57.53drom_I mean, their eyes are recrusive as fuck
00:58.13ZF101Perhaps Ayrai can still be used as an archaic name not used by anyone.
00:58.21ZF101Like with Gaul and France.
00:58.24XhoIt's a name used by another race now
00:58.49XhoAyrai-Shi which were a race of Samut'angar that Krathazhrukhal created, and then destroyed because they got too big for their boots
00:58.49MonetFor some reason it was the races of the Kraw Galaxy that always called the mthe Ayrai'Shikua
00:58.53drom_Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty#Relations fixed
00:59.07drom_need to correct the relations subpage anyway
00:59.12XhoKicath - less dark energy akbar
00:59.24drom_but it is late, so probably tomorrow
01:00.01Tybusendrom_: I'm curious what the Nomatari's opinions on some of the other Bunsen powers are, especially the TIAF since they're both on the Xonexi Board
01:00.01XhoThey've now got the name 'Lords of the Hyperuranion' because why not
01:00.46MonetI always found it odd that the galaxy with the least experience with them were the ones callign them by what peopel thought to be their "true" names
01:00.55The_RandomnessI'm off for tonight, bye guys
01:01.02XhoXhodocto - man go pet yourselves
01:01.31XhoI'm not so sure what the origin of the term 'Xhodocto' is now in fiction
01:01.36XhoI think I said it was a Zhulultu word now
01:01.59TechnobliteratorI thought it was a random name generated in Spore
01:02.10TybusenWasn't it a name given by one of the old Congregation races?
01:02.14MonetTechnobliterator: He means in-universe
01:02.16XhoTybusen: Originally
01:02.21drom_aaah darkness... the rejoyance!
01:02.21drom_Xho: Who?
01:02.23drom_hoh
01:02.24drom_Dr. Xho
01:02.24drom_Daleks fear him
01:02.25drom_Xho: Dr. Xho, geddit?
01:02.25XhoAnd yes Xhodocto is a randomly generated name from Spore
01:02.28TechnobliteratorIn-universe? I...dunno
01:02.55CyrannianThat's incredibly fortunate. Most of the randomly generated names I get in Spore are like "bobo"
01:02.56draknessTybusen: I've no idea so far. I cannot really tell now because it is too late to stay up late now.
01:02.56Technobliteratorand now we wait
01:03.00XhoAs a Zhulultu word I guess it would mean 'Master' or perhaps 'Prime Mover'
01:03.06XhoCyrannian: no darkness 4 u
01:03.11Technobliteratoreventually, the RecentChanges will only contain edits by CyraBot
01:03.26Technobliteratorno human contributor shall save an edit
01:03.31CyrannianAs it should be
01:03.31Technobliteratorthe age of robots shall begin
01:04.14ZF101All my random names always seem to Xho in them.
01:04.23Xhomwaha
01:04.31ZF101One was Xhonestu or something.
01:04.59TybusenThe corruption is complete
01:05.44ZF101Hooray.
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01:08.21ZF101http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AMendel_Pact#Quotes_from_others Hey guys, just wanted to ask before I forget, could you guys maybe add some quotes, if you want.
01:08.46MonetLooking throught the list of Borealis species, everyone's so bloody tall.
01:09.38MonetI guess it's the cold.
01:10.11ZF101They all turned into vikings. Big, mean, and tall.
01:11.04ZF101Could you imagine a Kicathian viking?
01:11.31XhoNu - no
01:11.38MonetBig mean, tall and without the good grooming lol
01:13.11ZF101"Come, let us drink to Valhalla, and the All-Father, Kithworto!"
01:13.38Wormydroid<PROTECTED>
01:13.46MonetZF101: Can you imagine a Wranploer who braids a full head of hair?
01:14.05WormydroidA once a week bath was very clean for those days
01:14.05MonetWormydroid: that's why I said "and without the good grooming"
01:14.09XhoKicath are rather prudish when it comes to grooming
01:14.15ZF101Biatch I'm fabulous.
01:14.28XhoGrowing out their horns in modern times is a sign of aggression and general punkishness
01:14.32ZF101Wait, full head...which one.
01:14.47MonetYeah but Kicath aren't native to Borealis.
01:14.58XhoKicath - where are we even native to anyway
01:15.25MonetZf101: Their top head
01:15.36ZF101Why not both? lel.
01:15.49MonetBecause the bottom ehad is just a mouth
01:15.59WormydroidBut according to one Arab trader, Viking songs sounded like the growling of dogs, and they liked their meat bloody and skewered on a
01:16.32WormydroidBloody pole
01:16.48ZF101I actually based the Mendel just a bit off Vikings, along with their gaelic inspiration.
01:16.50MonetThe Arab could have been prejudiced.
01:17.11ZF101Tis happened a lot in history.
01:17.15ZF101Ask Carthage.
01:18.00MonetYeah it was pretty popular in ye classical days to see any foreigner as a savage.
01:18.08Monetsame with early medieval
01:18.35ZF101I think that still exsists in some form even today.
01:19.07MonetRomans from the south often saw trousers as these ugly fabrics you wrapped around your leg.
01:19.27MonetNowhere near as elegant as a tunic.
01:19.33MonetOr a good long robe
01:19.50DrodoEmpire^
01:21.04MonetImagine how one of those ROmans would react seeing today's fashions
01:21.21ZF101"Most unorthodox!"
01:21.25DrodoEmpire^
01:21.27DrodoEmpireYeah...
01:21.41DrodoEmpireThey'd likely see modern fashion as *extremely* barbaric
01:22.04DrodoEmpireWhat with trousers, long sleeved-shirts and beards
01:22.30DrodoEmpireThey'd also probably find some food and drinks gross- Romans *hated* beer for example
01:23.03ZF101Their just jealous of the pure manliness of beard. lel.
01:26.23WormydroidHm, maybe the barbarians of the North did not progress very far witu fashion in the eyes of Romans
01:26.59MonetRomans had a different idea of manliness.
01:26.59ZF101Who needs fashion when you have a manly beard on your chin.
01:27.02WormydroidWe still wear trousers and beer, and beards are back
01:27.06DrodoEmpireYeah
01:27.14DrodoEmpireThat has to do with the climate no doubt
01:27.17ZF101Monet - I know, just a joke.
01:27.27DrodoEmpireWell, trousers and beards
01:27.31MonetThough I think even vikings might question the neckbeard
01:27.41DrodoEmpireRomans just didn't like beer
01:27.43DrodoEmpire>.<
01:28.05WormydroidHow ridiculous
01:28.06ZF101Well, that's when a Beard stops being manly, and starts being pathetic.
01:28.31MonetVikings like a nice thick beard yes
01:28.49MonetBut a nice thick beard that was plaited was even better
01:29.01DrodoEmpire^
01:29.19ZF101It's funny, cause I'm watching a video on the Space Wolves right now.
01:30.07MonetThere's one thing that I don't think the space wolves emulate about Viking tradition
01:30.34MonetNever haggle a viking.
01:31.14MonetThose guys traded from Cordoba to Constantinople.
01:31.28DrodoEmpireYeah
01:31.43DrodoEmpireLater Vikings in particular were accomplished traders
01:32.12ZF101When the whole universe is at war, it's hard to be a merchant. =/
01:32.38MonetZF101: Rogue traders.
01:32.46DrodoEmpireWell...
01:32.48ZF101And Tau Water Caste.
01:32.55ZF101But their kinda under the radar.
01:33.01DrodoEmpireNot if you happen to be selling weapons or equipment
01:33.03WormydroidThere are even artifacts from India found in Viking settlements, like figures of the Buddha.
01:33.04DrodoEmpireOr raw materials
01:33.06DrodoEmpireOr anything
01:33.14DrodoEmpireWormy: Yeah, I heard of that
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01:33.20DrodoEmpireWar can be pretty brutal on the economy
01:33.28DrodoEmpireBut there's money to be made
01:34.52ZF101<PROTECTED>
01:34.55ZF101darn it.
01:35.11ZF101Hold up.
01:35.43ZF101Erroneous nickname? De fuq?
01:36.00ZF_awayWierd.
01:36.14MonetWhy the namechange?
01:36.33ZF_awayI'll be playing Battlefront 2 for a bit.
01:36.56ZF_awayAnd maybe a little republic commando.
01:37.20ZF_awayBefore EA pimps out the RC sequel like a brothel whore.
01:37.42MonetYou'll still ahve the original
01:38.47ZF_awayMemories of the original can still be tainted by shit today.
01:39.09MonetIf you let them
01:39.12ZF_awayI love the original Battlefront, yet I can't play it without thinking of the shit EA has pulled.
01:39.41ZF_awayExactly, after that trashy "reboot", it's the last time I buy a Star Wars game.
01:40.00MonetNaming yourself "EABattlefront Sucks" probably doesn't help your emotional state
01:40.53ZF_away*Shrugs* Eh, we all have ways of dealing with it.
01:41.07ZF_awayToddles
01:42.12CyrannianMay the gods watch over your battles, friend
01:42.29ZF_awayAye!
01:46.21MonetI don't know much Mando'a so... "Republica Invicta!".
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02:14.33DrodoEmpireHi
02:14.41The_RandomnessHello
02:58.36DrodoEmpireHello again
02:58.36DrodoEmpire:D
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04:24.05DrodoEmpireHi
04:24.39OfficerJackalHeyo!
05:00.19DrodoEmpiretest
06:27.25TybusenDrodoEmpire: Hey, if you don't mind me asking again, when do you think you'll be able to respond to the AWA friendship proposal?
06:27.42DrodoEmpireRight, I'll do so tomorrow
06:27.53DrodoEmpireVery sorry about that, writing the history took longer than I expected
06:28.41TybusenNo problem at all
06:29.43TybusenI understand that it's important to get the current affairs of the Drodo sorted out before you'd know how the Drodo would respond
06:31.51DrodoEmpireRight, right
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09:45.54JepardiHi
09:47.40GhelaeHello.
10:08.48drom__Hey
10:21.54drom__Ghelae Tybusen: http://imgur.com/gallery/wuL1D
10:21.59drom__Tybusen: Ya there?
10:24.48drom__Jepardi: http://i.imgur.com/iu2zVCa.jpg?1
10:29.21Tybusendrom__: You caught me at a bad time, I'm about to go to bed
10:29.52TybusenIf it's not anything that will take long to talk about though I can spare a few minutes
10:32.40TybusenOtherwise I'll just head out
10:33.36drom__Alright, Tybusen. I'm not going to stop you.
10:34.08drom__But you want to talk about NS-TIAF relations, you might want to write message instead if you don't mind.
10:34.30TybusenAh ok so it's about NS-TIAF relations
10:35.20TybusenMainly what I want to know is what the NS thinks about the TIAF because the TIAF is pretty neutral towards the NS
10:37.01TybusenThey are cooperating in the same allied group but don't have much reason to cooperate outside the Xonexi Alliance if the Nomatari aren't interested in Bunsen galactic affairs
10:37.38TybusenThat and also the Nomatari making their presence known would likely cause the BGR and Levisala to caution the TIAF about interacting with the Nomatari
10:44.28Tybusendrom__: I'll just leave a message on your talk page later because it's getting late for me and you're not responding right now
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11:03.49AdmiralPandahi all
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11:23.52AdmiralPandahello again
11:27.50GhelaeHello.
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11:41.34AdmiralPandahi oluap
11:41.47OluapPlayerHi
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12:03.29Liquid_InkHello
12:03.36XhoHi
12:04.06OluapPlayerspu
12:04.41Xhou
12:05.30Liquid_InkHow did the Deadly Sin demons in your fiction come to being?
12:05.51XhoCreated by the Xhodocto
12:06.40Liquid_InkFor a particular purpose?
12:06.56XhoGuards of the realms they were put in
12:07.19Liquid_InkI see
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12:34.40Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/moviepilotvideo/videos/921780367871103/ unlucky
12:36.02Hachimanaw no
12:38.40OluapPlayerNO-HO-HO=HO
12:40.41Technobliteratorwait, Xhodocto page is no longer Ayrai'Shikua/
12:40.42Technobliterator?
12:41.08OluapPlayerDid you get so wasted you didn't remember the fiasco you did last night?
12:41.11XhoYou were there last night
12:41.23Xhoabsolute lightweight 0/10 go back to sleep
12:41.49TechnobliteratorFiasco last night? I...do not recall
12:42.06OluapPlayerFucking wow, yes you got
12:42.24OluapPlayerXho wanted to rename the page and you threw a hissy fit
12:42.56Technobliteratoroh god
12:43.04Technobliteratorsorry about that >.<
12:43.31TechnobliteratorI'm curious as to why I even went on the computer last night, though
12:43.43Xhocuz u dense as lead elephant
12:43.43OluapPlayerAt one point I just left since you were being a total bitch and I didn't feel like dealing with drunks
12:44.07TechnobliteratorI should probably check my contribs to see if I didn't do anything else stupid
12:44.20OluapPlayerYou didn't edit anything
12:44.23Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12654204_2545995035455732_1519013585390215607_n.jpg?oh=be0da91b0610f53ab8e049f22c4d0418&oe=57692FBF I posted this to describe you as well
12:45.15TechnobliteratorOn this wiki, no, thankfully not
12:45.58XhoRight well I was making a new Tandava Xhodocto
12:46.02Technobliteratorlooks like I didn't anywhere else
12:46.03XhoThe game crashed cuz couldn't handle the gold
12:46.04Technobliteratorso this is good
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12:48.19CyrannianHai
12:48.58OluapPlayer~wrestle Cyrannian
12:49.04OluapPlayerthat should be a command
12:49.31Liquid_Ink~tackle Cyrannian
12:49.31infobotACTION tackles Cyrannian to the ground.
12:49.58Cyrannian~nag OluapPlayer
12:49.58infobotACTION takes OluapPlayer to a child day care and gives all the children poking sticks
12:50.43OluapPlayeru wish
12:55.27XhoNow that's evil
12:57.41Xho"The first rule of Vegan Club is to tell everyone about Vegan Club"
12:57.46OluapPlayerkek
12:57.53Hachimanolol
12:58.19XhoI think I might drop those hi-res textures
12:58.37XhoOr halve the quality of it
12:59.10XhoOr equally just turn them on when I want to make certain screenshots
12:59.34OluapPlayerSounds like too much work
12:59.38OluapPlayer2lazi
13:01.48Xhou
13:07.06XhoSo I was searching for Paint.NET
13:07.13XhoI get a website about actual paint
13:07.47OluapPlayerlel
13:07.47Hachimanolol
13:09.51XhoSo Russia is saying that Turkey is preparing to invade Syria
13:09.57Xhokebab removing kebab
13:10.30HachimanFuck Erdogan
13:10.56OluapPlayerbok bok
13:10.58XhoThat is if Russia's assumptions are correct
13:11.10XhoRussia could be doing this to get everyone riled up
13:11.24XhoBut knowing Turkey
13:11.26HachimanAlso am I right in predicting that this Apolithanatár figure is going to appear in Cyrannian fiction very soon
13:11.33Xhoalready has lel
13:11.47HachimanWell I meant as in the modern era
13:12.27CyrannianIt has been foreshadowed in some NCR stories I believe
13:12.29Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12651161_10153407432795642_2331957271001836832_n.jpg?oh=4faf8b290425bf8d67202d158b4f103e&oe=5731E00B
13:12.38XhoFUCK NCR, HAIL CAESAR
13:12.42XhoOh wait wrong NCR
13:12.50OluapPlayerHis coming has, canonically, been foreshadowed since Chaneonix's introducing
13:13.17HachimanI cannot wait to see yet another Oikoumene conflict
13:13.25OluapPlayerThat was back at the great Cyrannus War
13:13.49XhoSo he's like a character 3 years in the mix
13:13.51OluapPlayerXho: I saw that connection as well, made me giggle for a while
13:14.47Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12508988_10153404504740642_3640978063096816184_n.jpg?oh=0074b0edc233a9bf88e166d07b86fba0&oe=573664AC
13:15.05Cyrannianolol
13:15.14Hachimanhur
13:19.03XhoRight gotta restart
13:19.12HachimanRestart your life
13:19.15XhoMan installing Paint.NET is fucking annoying
13:19.16Xhothat too
13:19.17Xhobrb lel
13:20.32OluapPlayerwuts he on about, Paint.net is easy as shit to install
13:20.45OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Polar_Crystal_Alliance/Relations anyway i've done this
13:20.54Cyranniangasp
13:20.58Hachimanyis
13:21.19OluapPlayerDon't know why you're so interested, it's nothing you don't already know
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13:24.55Technobliteratoryay
13:25.11Technobliteratoralso, no entry for Space!UN?
13:25.31OluapPlayerAfter it gets established for real, it'll have one
13:25.35Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apolithanat%C3%A1r - paeg is finished errrrbody
13:25.43OluapPlayerFor now I don't know the PCA's position in it
13:25.52OluapPlayerAnteddy - go bak to ur lamp
13:26.24OluapPlayery no Chaneonix in relations
13:27.17Cyrannianwhoops
13:28.38OluapPlayerdere i quoted
13:29.14XhoCyrannian: So is he of a higher order of Oikoumene than Tyro and Primercer
13:29.33OluapPlayerIt says so on the page u dum lern 2 reed
13:29.37HachimanIt would seem so
13:30.25CyrannianHe's older and wiser, but not necessarily more potent
13:30.45HachimanSo Tyrómairon and the Primercer were two warlords who came to power after Apolithanatár disappeared?
13:31.06OluapPlayerSeriously people read the page before asking questions
13:35.05CyrannianKinda sorta
13:35.25Hachiman"At one moment, he can be affectionate and affable while at a moment's notice he can be strict and brusque, unwilling to humour foolish behaviour or actions which danger the "life-song" of the cosmos."
13:35.27Hachiman>life-song
13:35.33Hachimandis some silmarillion shi
13:36.41Cyrannianmeans some mystical shit I don't even
13:37.03HachimanVery good page I gotta say
13:37.28HachimanI am eager to see his return to Cyrannus
13:37.47CyrannianThanks, I'm pretty happifaic with it. I'll work on updating the Oikoumene page now
13:58.49XhoWell I don't think Paint.NET is my cup of tea
13:59.02XhoLooks good anyway
13:59.28HachimanTry GIMP
13:59.31Hachimanu gimp
13:59.47OluapPlayerYou didn't use Paint.net before?
13:59.52Xhowat u think i been usin for all time u idiots
14:00.14OluapPlayerI know you used GIMP before
14:00.23OluapPlayerBut I thought you use it in combination with Paint.net
14:00.25OluapPlayerThat's what I do
14:00.30XhoNope, never used Paint before
14:00.42OluapPlayerI can't use GIMP, too complicated
14:01.30OluapPlayerI only use it to make those shiny light effects
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14:04.43Wormy_ji
14:05.03OluapPlayerJi
14:05.14OluapPlayerWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh8vpntLzQw this might interest you
14:05.42XhoAw great Spore's crashed and my desktop's messed up
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14:07.49CyrannianAye, it crashed for me twice last night
14:08.27Xho_buffed textures is nicht gut
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14:10.07Wormy_Wow yes, pretty amazing those cloud chambers.  I never really got to grips with how the small particles like an electron can create visible paths, but that's the failure of preconceived common sense for you/
14:10.46Wormy_I understand the brief explanation, just don't feel it intuitively
14:12.28Wormy_Xho_  What are you trying to do, get big textures into Spore using mods?  Or exporting Spore models in Blender and rendering textures?
14:12.50Xho_Using Drom's commands to up the textures
14:12.59dromHachiman OluapPlayer Xho_: http://i.imgur.com/LzpsGCs.png
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14:13.16OluapPlayerYou are a dangerous animal
14:13.18Hachimandrom: Accurate
14:13.19OluapPlayerHi
14:13.20MonetHello
14:13.21HachimanHi
14:14.01dromWormy_: Watcha talkin' about?
14:14.24Wormy_Cloud chambers, and then I asked Xho what he was doing with textures.
14:15.14HachimanXho: http://paper-mario-wiki.tumblr.com/post/137971732006
14:16.02Xho_Hachiman: What the
14:16.17OluapPlayerWAT R YE DOIN IN MA R'YEN
14:16.20Wormy_OluapPlayer:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiscokCGOhs
14:16.21Hachimanolol
14:16.35Wormy_Cut to a couple of minutes in
14:16.41OluapPlayer>51 minutes
14:16.45OluapPlayerain't nobody got time for dat
14:17.24Wormy_awaybbl
14:18.00dromXho Monet: Improved Maeiron's model http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/72/Maeiron-full.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206133748
14:18.35MonetThat is a much better jacket.
14:19.07dromStill now sleeves
14:19.18dromno*
14:19.48MonetMaybe its sleeveless?
14:21.30dromThey prefer sleeve-less upper body clothing, they are fond of putting grabs ontop their outfits.
14:21.41OluapPlayerdunno what to do now
14:21.49Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8f/Kalarah2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206142044 Kalarah's armour came out quite well
14:22.10dromdat bump
14:22.18MonetVery well
14:22.29HachimanI thought he did not need to wear armour anymore
14:22.41XhoNo but that's his armour anyway hur
14:22.44Xhodammit
14:24.20XhoDrom: What's the normal texture quality for Spore
14:24.23Xho1024?
14:25.20dromYeah, 1024
14:25.40XhoRight I might tone it down to 2048 then
14:25.42dromThat's the highest possible without config modifications
14:26.14dromXho: You might want to keep it high to keep the crispness of your models.
14:26.39dromBecause the more parts you have, the less area will there be available to texture the parts.
14:26.55Xho4096 makes my game unstable
14:27.01dromVery well
14:27.19HachimanSo apparently today is the International Day of Zero Tolerance for Female Genital Mutilation
14:27.28OluapPlayerso apparently dicks
14:28.50Xho2048 works alright anyway
14:28.55Xho4096 might have been a bit too crisp
14:29.01Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Oikoumene#History - did somebody say "wall of text"
14:30.31XhoYeah 2048 is better than 4096 if you ask me
14:30.42XhoIt retains more of the original look without going overboard on the quality
14:31.31dromI like setting high demands.
14:31.57XhoWith 64 GB memory, I somehow knew
14:34.39OluapPlayerclaps at Cyrannian's general direction
14:35.52Cyranniandank u
14:40.57dromMonet Xho: Now, I need to figure out what background to use for Maeiron
14:44.51MonetCyrannian: Looks good so far. Their influence is certainly far-reaching
14:46.23CyrannianGlad you like it
14:47.13OluapPlayerbig important waptor gods
14:54.32OluapPlayerhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b5/Entropic_Dalek_2.png now he's looking extra nasty
14:55.08Xhoew
14:55.19HachimanEw
14:55.25HachimanSlimey as fuck
14:55.27HachimanI like it hur
14:56.02HachimanNgh I just realized
14:56.12CyrannianErissare - i would
14:56.20HachimanI have to reinstall all my Spore stuff and then re-download Dark Injection
14:56.23OluapPlayernasti shi
14:57.00OluapPlayerIt only took you until now to remember you don't have Spore installed
14:57.04OluapPlayercongrats u fuckin dumbass
14:59.18HachimanFuck
14:59.29HachimanI did not upload PNGs for some of my stuff
14:59.31HachimanSuch as Eirik
14:59.47HachimanWhich means I will now have to remake them fuck
15:00.05HachimanNow I just feel really disinterested in reinstalling Spore
15:01.40Xhoy u uninstall spore
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15:01.42Xhowat u doin
15:01.52HachimanBecause I had to get my PC reformatted
15:01.56HachimanOr rather its hard drive replaced
15:02.24HachimanWhich also means I lost a load of saved fiction stuff
15:02.28HachimanGoddamn
15:02.56OluapPlayerInstead of 'saved fiction', if that was a thing, you should published it like a normal person would
15:03.33HachimanYeah it was "saved" because it was not ready to be published
15:04.32MonetHalf-done is better than "not present"
15:05.02MonetOdd I put quotation marks there
15:05.15HachimanNot for me
15:05.24HachimanIf it is half-done then it will lack impact
15:05.44OluapPlayerNow it has no impact whatsoever since you didn't finish it and it's been wiped out
15:06.40dromDo as a normal person would do: save the fukken creations straight into an external disk
15:08.02dromMonet: Apparently there is a pistol-rifle bug in XCOM 2: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/314492958156373761/F4AC4EF6FECB11FF16222A466034031B1F8E45FE/
15:08.59HachimanNah, that soldier is just that awesome
15:10.49dromMonet: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t35.0-12/12656441_10208531163173852_589085706_o.jpg?oh=48f2c12ced6697dcc13b6f354cb38975&oe=56B8344B
15:11.07MonetEw
15:13.04dromMonet Hachiman: http://puu.sh/mXqQe/4f6e1c95e4.jpg
15:13.11Hachimanolol
15:13.12Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Oikoumene#Leaders - c
15:14.38OluapPlayerThat's a really nice layout
15:14.46OluapPlayerAre gonna do the same for the rest of the characters?
15:15.09HachimanI am kinda curious as to what the Primercer's name si
15:15.10Hachimanis even
15:15.16HachimanI know it is not important but still
15:15.19OluapPlayerPrimercer hur
15:15.46HachimanPrimercer is his name
15:15.47Cyrannian"Jim"
15:15.48Hachimantitle even
15:15.50HachimanFuck
15:16.00OluapPlayerJim Primercer Sr.
15:16.33MonetIt's a good layout
15:16.45MonetTHough Tyro's symbol is a bit dark
15:16.55dromHe is dead, Jim.
15:18.16OluapPlayerCyrannian: answur me
15:18.34CyrannianOh right, yes I'll do the same with the others
15:18.34HachimanI feel Tyrómairon's symbol is a little unimpressive compared to the Primercer and Apolithanatár
15:18.47HachimanNowhere near as decorative
15:19.04OluapPlayeris pumped for shiny Thaur and Chaneo portraits
15:19.05XhoThat's the idea
15:19.06CyrannianI'm updating it as we speak
15:19.15MonetNice
15:19.20Hachimanyey
15:19.24XhoI would've thought Tyro would be less decorative as to fit in with the LESSER KINDS
15:19.25OluapPlayerSpeaking of which, before you make those, let me get you a better PNG for Chaneo
15:20.25GhelaeThe symbol of the Vector of Light is bright, the symbol of the Vector of Chaos is chaotic (vaguely), and the symbol of the Vector of Order is ordered. Makes sense to me.
15:20.37GhelaeLord of the Light*
15:20.52MonetXho: I think these symbols predate the Empire
15:20.56MonetAnd might be somewhat unknown
15:21.10XhoOh I thought you meant the models
15:21.10Cyranniannods knowingly to Ghelae, even though that wasn't intentional
15:21.14Xhocannot read
15:21.21OluapPlayerI think the symbols are meant to be their supposed true forms
15:21.26OluapPlayerAt least, I thought it was like this
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15:23.30MonetOikoumene - We are all actually patterned circles.
15:24.39MonetI have to say I like the yin-and-yang aspect of Tyro and the Primercer
15:25.13MonetOrder and chaos are constantly against each other, but for balance, both must be in dynamic equilibrium
15:28.49Cyranniannods knowingly to Ghelae, even though that wasn't intentional
15:28.51Cyrannianwhoops
15:28.58Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Oikoumene#Leaders - dere
15:29.53HachimanOh wow
15:30.15HachimanTyrómairon and Libraé's symbols look great
15:30.16OluapPlayerI liek
15:31.11Cyrannianyey
15:32.00XhoCyrannian: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/65/XhoMaethoruin.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206153141 Finished your request
15:32.24Cyrannianoh wow, that's awesome
15:33.39CyrannianDo you have a png?
15:35.00HachimanXho: So NetherRealm Studios released a Carl Weathers skin for Jax and actually got Carl into the studio in order to capture his likeness and record a load of lines
15:35.39Xhowho now
15:35.57XhoCyrannian: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/65/XhoMaethoruin.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206153448
15:36.14HachimanDillion from Predator
15:36.16Cyrannianbares some more hellspawn
15:36.19HachimanDillon even
15:36.23XhoDammit I just saved over the picture
15:36.31XhoHAchiman: Never seen the first Predator
15:36.35Hachimanwot
15:39.06MonetOoooh earrr
15:48.00Cyrannianhttps://www.facebook.com/all4/videos/751917784942910/
15:52.09OluapPlayerFECK OFF CUP]
15:53.40HachimanOh God
15:53.44HachimanI need to watch that again
15:53.49HachimanI missed how funny it was
15:55.45CyrannianI'm distantly related to the actor who plays Dougal apparently
15:56.33HachimanOh wow
16:00.38Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Oikoumene#Society_and_Culture - c
16:05.04OluapPlayerhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3e/Silencing_Apollo.png I remade this to the best of my ability
16:06.43Cyrannianoh wow, looks great!
16:08.38MonetBig Bird's angry godlike cousin.
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16:17.49notaAnyone figure out how to repack .package file without rw4 error?
16:20.40OluapPlayeranswer is NO
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16:36.28dromMonet: Am I overdoing this? http://i.imgur.com/IrqcYr3.png
16:37.17dromThe pattern gives it a more Mexican feel
16:37.29dromThus, making the Nomatarians illegal aliens
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16:39.39MonetI think three rings of triangle work.
16:40.03DrodoEmpireHi everyone
16:40.27OluapPlayerMonet: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/83/Draconis%27Kikra.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206164009 since you requested it
16:44.01MonetOluapPLayer: I like.
16:49.38MonetThose textures realyl bring out the savagery of the horns
16:50.23OluapPlayerKikra - horny headbutt
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17:15.45HachimanSo there is a thing going around inquiring if you would step on a small puppy in return for $18b
17:17.11OluapPlayerI wouldn't step on a puppy for any number of b's
17:17.23HachimanAs in billion hur
17:17.35OluapPlayerMy point stands
17:17.45OluapPlayerPuppies are for cuddle, not murder
17:17.46MonetHachiman: So another "Money or morals" question?
17:18.03HachimanYa
17:18.06HachimanYeah even
17:18.10HachimanPersonally I would not do it either
17:18.17HachimanI love dogs too much
17:20.08MonetThose questions do bug me a little.
17:20.34HachimanFor one the amount of money being offered is too high to really challenge morals
17:20.39MonetWell, not much
17:20.55Hachiman$20,000 would be a more realistic offer
17:22.13MonetI wouldn't know what to d owith 18 billion
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17:23.30OluapPlayerBuy a mansion, live like a king, never work again
17:23.52HachimanGet potentially targeted because of how much money you have
17:24.04OluapPlayerdats y u contract security duh
17:24.19HachimanAnd also the fact you will be mistreated because you got that money from killing a puppy
17:24.21OluapPlayerrelease the dogs (at elast the ones I didn't step on to get here)
17:24.40OluapPlayerIf you're heartless enough to step on a puppy in the first place, I doubt you'd care
17:24.41Hachimanhur
17:25.49MonetHachi's right. It's either be me or live like some rich asshole who got rich by killing puppies.
17:26.16Technobliteratoror hire professional programmers and top of the line engineers to develop robot security guards and never have to pay anyone
17:26.19Technobliteratorwoooo
17:28.08OluapPlayerA WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR
17:28.17drom_Updated NS' emblem http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty
17:30.07TechnobliteratorI love how they made weapons to surpass Metal Gear then suddenly just regressed into making the most basic Metal Gears they could
17:30.31Technobliteratorliterally the one in MG1 was just called Metal Gear
17:30.40OluapPlayerThe weapon to surpass metal gear turned out to be microbes
17:30.47OluapPlayerwhich evolved into NANOMACHINES SON
17:31.10Technobliteratorhttp://i.imgur.com/1s45qpX.jpg
17:31.23TechnobliteratorRose: A wife denied of her husband
17:31.54OluapPlayerrelevant to my interests
17:32.58MonetTechnobliterator: Budget
17:33.19MonetSahelanthropus looked like a bit of a financial black hole to me.
17:36.29Technobliteratorbudget doesnt matter when you have the Philosopher's Legacy
17:36.39OluapPlayerYou don't need to pay people when you can just threaten them with your killing microbes and your fire zombie
17:37.02MonetDid they have all that when desinging REX?
17:38.27TechnobliteratorThey designed Arsenal Gear and developed millions of RAYs. Preeetty sure they had plenty of money to spare
17:39.01MonetI thought RAY was a US Navy project
17:39.38Technobliteratoryeah but it was obviously orchestrated by the Patriots
17:40.01TechnobliteratorMetal Gear normal for Venom Snake makes sense, and whatever was in MG2, since I don't think they were as rich
17:40.03Technobliteratorbut REX makes no sense
17:41.13TechnobliteratorI hope Konami remake MGS3 with the controls and graphics of MGSV
17:41.23Technobliteratorthat would literally be the best game of all time
17:41.34Technobliteratorno one would even be able to deny me then
17:41.45MonetAccording to the Metal Gear wiki the development of RAY was intended as the US Navy's attempt at the US Army's REX
17:41.58Technobliteratoryeah
17:42.07Technobliteratorbut both were controlled by the Patriots
17:42.08OluapPlayerIt can't be when DESTROYED-THEIR-ANTY-AIR-RADAR 5 already exists yo
17:42.47MonetTechnobliterator: The US Navy, Air Force and Armyhave al ong history of rivalry.
17:43.12Technobliteratorand the Patriots have a long history of....controlling everything
17:43.19Technobliteratorso it doesn't really matter
17:44.38MonetIt might
17:45.25MonetAt the top level, interservice rivalry stems from competition over which branch gets the most generious budget.
17:45.49MonetOr it could be as petty as one branch geting toys the other doesn't.
17:54.01drom_Monet: Ain't Kicathian Remnant supposed to be a highlord state in PAE?
17:54.29Monetdrom_: Aby 2807, yes
17:55.05drom_THe only place it referes KR as Highlord state is the Highlords section alone
17:55.20drom_Should I fix it so they are properly referred as Highlords?
17:55.46MonetYeah.
17:55.53drom_Arite
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17:57.51ImperiosHi
17:57.54Imperiosdrom_: https://2ch.hk/po/src/13821915/14546840552270.webm
17:58.12drom_Monet: Said and done. http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction%3APan-Andromedan_Ecumene&diff=701458&oldid=698527
17:58.29OluapPlayerHi Imp
18:00.10drom_Imperios: love the effort put in it
18:03.29drom_Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/iVkbwaY.png
18:05.20Technobliteratorwow
18:05.28TechnobliteratorI was getting absolutely creamed by this dungeon
18:05.54Technobliteratornow a bit of grinding and some more gear later, it's getting absolutely creamed by me
18:05.56TechnobliteratorI love this genre
18:06.24MonetTOR?
18:06.27drom_What game is dat?
18:06.44TechnobliteratorBravely Default
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18:08.05Charles_BotHello!
18:08.15Monethi
18:08.58OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:A_Loron_History_of_SporeWiki#Mythology new section under mythology, FORESHADOWING
18:10.06Technobliterator:oo
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18:12.35Technobliteratorlmao
18:12.39TechnobliteratorThat was great
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18:13.59ImperiosTechnobliterator OluapPlayer: That is hilarious until you think for a second and realise how horrifying the Lorons are if you think about it
18:14.14The_RandomnessHello
18:14.17OluapPlayerif you think REALLY HARD
18:14.19OluapPlayerrandum
18:14.33Technobliteratorhi randum
18:14.40TechnobliteratorOh?
18:15.11ImperiosWell they are a race of nearly invincible gigantic cannibalistic sociopaths with stalk-eyes and Predator jaws
18:16.40OluapPlayerAll races in the wiki are scary in context
18:17.11OluapPlayerImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apolithanat%C3%A1r much to your dismay, he actually is a pretty nice guy
18:17.22ImperiosNOOOOO
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18:18.59TechnobliteratorYeah, although the Loron are mostly comic relief, they do have their serious side to them
18:19.16HachimanOh God that Six Suns section was amazing
18:19.25HachimanLoron are about to go nuclear
18:19.39TechnobliteratorThis is the plan for the next story
18:19.42Technobliteratorwanna get involved :o
18:19.50ImperiosBut still
18:19.52ImperiosI WAS RIGHT
18:19.53OluapPlayerLike I said
18:19.54ImperiosRIIIIGHT
18:19.55OluapPlayerPUNISHED BOSS
18:20.02OluapPlayerA LEEDA DENIED OF HIS MENTOR
18:20.06TechnobliteratorRight about what, Imp :o
18:20.15ImperiosAbout the shiny guy being Apol'eus
18:20.20HachimanA Loron Deprived of His Pizza
18:20.38OluapPlayerA replacement for Apol'eus
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18:24.59ImperiosOluapPlayer: So basically Primercer is selfishness driven to the extreme - narcissism - while Tyrone is selflessness transformed into megalomania
18:25.30OluapPlayerThat's a good assumption but you should ask Cyrannian about that
18:25.41OluapPlayerI'm not actually involved in the whole Vectors thing
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18:27.41MonetImperios: My assumption is Primercer and Tyrone are yin and yang
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18:28.11HachimanYin and Yang would be if one were selfish and the other selfless
18:29.05HachimanI feel that Tyrómairon and the Primercer make up the Yin while Apolithanatár constitutes the entirety of the Yang
18:29.49HachimanAlthough this then implies that there is some good within Tyrómairon and the Primercer and some evil within Apolithanatár
18:31.00MonetNo think about it
18:31.08MonetThey're both dicks, but they can still be yin and yang
18:32.33ImperiosHachiman: But Yin and Yang aren't necessarily malevolent and benevolent
18:32.34MonetTyrone is yin - he is calm, calculated, and prefers structure ot everything, and prefers to work behind the scenes. Primercer is yang - he is passionate, and prefers the overt solutions.
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18:32.45OluapPlayerreturn of spi
18:33.02Xhoaye
18:33.24HachimanImperios: I know; Yin and Yang represent contrasts and opposites and the Primercer and Tyrómairon do not strike me as being so opposite to one another
18:33.33ImperiosTrue
18:34.47MonetThey're not yin and yang in the sense of good and evil, black or white, but they are yin and yang i nthe sense of active and passive, calm and passionate, introverted and extroverted.
18:34.55HachimanThat is true
18:35.40ImperiosAlso, Prim is arrogant and self-centered, while Tyro is sort of selfless, in a "white man's burden" kind of war
18:35.41Imperioswau
18:35.42Imperiosway
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18:44.19XhoRight what to make in Spore
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18:44.59OluapPlayerTandava
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18:49.31Wormy_hi
18:54.26OluapPlayerhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8d/PUNISHED_%22VENOM%22_BOSS.png Fre'kloar has grown up
18:56.49ImperiosWow
18:57.34ImperiosThat's Frek?
18:57.40TechnobliteratorYuup
18:59.31Xhonot enough vitamins
18:59.45OluapPlayerYou mean too many vitamins
19:00.14Xhoi kno wat i sed
19:00.16Xhomoar vitamins
19:00.43XhoAlso I've got no ideas circling around for a new Tandava model
19:00.47OluapPlayerhao does it feel to be ultra dum
19:01.00Xhou tell me
19:01.41HachimanOh wow
19:01.47HachimanFre'kloar looks awesome
19:03.00XhoI like how it still retains the old school Loron-style clothing
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19:07.32OluapPlayerWho dares edit conflict me
19:07.46CyrannianHai
19:08.00OluapPlayerew shoo
19:08.21Cyrannianfeck off
19:09.11CyrannianImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Oikoumene http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apolithanat%C3%A1r http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Apotheosis - c updates
19:09.25ImperiosSeen that already
19:09.26ImperiosI WAS RIGHT
19:09.28ImperiosRIIIIIIIGH
19:09.31ImperiosRIIIIIIIIGHT
19:10.04ImperiosTechnobliterator Monet: ARe you up to SWTOR?
19:10.16TechnobliteratorNot at the moment, sorry
19:10.25TechnobliteratorI've got Da Propa Big Rogue Geek's page to redo
19:10.38Technobliteratorthen SUPER SECRET not really NEW PLOT
19:10.53MonetImperios: Maybe. Though my connection may lag
19:11.07ImperiosI could wait
19:11.39OluapPlayerMe and Jo are gonna be working on fiction
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19:14.49TechnobliteratorImperios, did you ever upload your Rogue Geek model?
19:17.06ImperiosTechnobliterator: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b5/Geek_PNG.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206191653  There you have it
19:17.26TechnobliteratorAh, that's the downloadable.png?
19:22.08ImperiosYa
19:22.16Technobliteratoralright thanks
19:22.41TechnobliteratorI don't have Spore on this computer, but when I get to one with Spore, I can hopefully have a got at making the other images
19:25.04Cyrannianhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e8/Cythonia.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206192451 - c
19:25.54MonetSleek
19:26.22OluapPlayersexi
19:28.28drom_demn zombie hands
19:29.22drom_goddamnit, I mispelled maeiorns' name wrong all of the time
19:30.19Cyrannianbbl
19:41.33XhoOluapPlayer: https://www.facebook.com/TheFlama/videos/934137463348657/?permPage=1
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19:46.44ImperiosTechnobliterrator: Do you think an ice sculpture gallery is a good place for a date?
19:47.04OluapPlayerXho: I don't know how true that is but I'd not doubt it
19:47.24Xhofutebol
19:48.26ImperiosGuys?
19:48.35Monet_2Imperios: I might
19:50.06HachimanIce sculpture gallery sounds like a *cool* place for a date
19:50.50HachimanWhat you gotta consider is whether *she* would want to see ice sculptures
19:51.10OluapPlayerImp the pimp
19:52.04ImperiosThat I do on occasion take girls on dates does not make a pimp hur
19:53.50Hachimaninb4 you're a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus
19:54.26Imperios>tyrannosaurs
19:54.43ImperiosThat's the other side of Europe
19:54.51Xho>she
19:54.52Xhowat
19:54.55OluapPlayerImp confirmed to have tiny-asss arms
19:55.26OluapPlayerXho: can u not grasp the concept of taking a girl to a date
19:55.39XhoNo I can't actually
19:55.40OluapPlayeru fagit
19:55.44Xhois sad now
19:56.03ImperiosXho: IF it was a he it would not be that different
19:56.20ImperiosOther than a crowd of angry Russians beating us to death
19:57.31Xhoslava rossiya
19:58.05ImperiosIt could also be them but Chechnya is more down south
19:58.10Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Da_Propa_Big_Rogue_Geek :oo
19:58.26TechnobliteratorAlso, Ghel, could you check if those weapons in the Equipment section are too weak for Tier 1-ish?
19:58.38Xhoholy shit you made page
19:58.44TechnobliteratorImperios, urm, depends on what that person is into? ?_?
19:58.52Ghelchecks if those weapons in the Equipment section are too weak for Tier 1-ish
19:59.21ImperiosActually not sure
19:59.49XhoI dunno why the Loron are Tier 1, I would've imagined they fall into Tier U on the account of the fact the Loron can barely think for themselves
19:59.51Monet_2I think there's a trickiness with grading the tier level of a lser
20:00.05OluapPlayerLoron are Tier 1 because they took over UNO
20:00.07Monet_2laser
20:00.11XhoOh right
20:00.18XhoThat would make sense I guess
20:00.24Monet_2Or well, any weapon.
20:00.25OluapPlayerSo it's more like "they got their hands into tier 1 tech"
20:00.44ImperiosThe one on the Saint Peter and Paul Fortress is apparently overpriced and small
20:00.57GhelThey're fine. Apalos would say that shapeshifting weapons are Tier 1 enough.
20:00.59DrodoEmpireMonet_2: I suppose with a laser determining the Tier level would largely come down to power of the laser in relation to how large the weapon is.
20:00.59ImperiosAnd I am not going to the fucking Moscow Plaza on the other half of the city
20:01.19Monet_2DrodoEmpire: Pretty much
20:01.20Imperios...As if anything I say  makes any sense to you
20:01.29GhelYou don't normally need much more than plasma blasters, and then turbolasers when you need it to be a bit more thermonuclear-y than usual.
20:02.03DrodoEmpireLike if you've miniaturized the death star laser to the size of an infantry rifle, as an extreme example its no question you've got a very, *very* advanced weapon
20:02.05Monet_2DrodoEMpire: I've worked out before that DI fusion rifles could be potent enough to easily met the armour of an M1 Abrams.
20:02.09TechnobliteratorHm, alright
20:02.10DrodoEmpireOh wow
20:02.11TechnobliteratorThanks! ^.^
20:02.28GhelAntimatter missiles... as is the common statistic, one gram will be a Hiroshima-sized boom. So that's useful if you need to clear a battlefield.
20:02.28Monet_2melt the armour*
20:02.49OluapPlayerLoron - ADD A DOZEN GRAMS
20:02.55DrodoEmpireI've concluded that miliary0grade Drodo assault rifles could do a similar feat
20:02.56HachimanTwo bombs were not enough
20:02.57GhelAnd "spacetime warping" (which I assume is vague because it covers a lot) is typical Tier 1 stuff.
20:03.19TechnobliteratorLater on, I'll probably need to go through the ships (not the weapons, cba) to tier 1-ify them as well
20:03.26OluapPlayerI don't know how strong any of the weapons of any of my fiction are
20:03.27DrodoEmpireSay unloading a magazine into roughly the same spot or plate and you'd blow a hole through
20:03.32OluapPlayerThey're as strong as the plot demands
20:04.20Monet_2Though I think Ghelae does bring up a good point about firepower: Sometiems its not neccesserily how much boom you have but how effectively you can destroy your target in a single shot.
20:04.27DrodoEmpireSo basically a brigade of Drodo infantrymen could make quick work of an American tank column
20:04.31DrodoEmpireMonet: true
20:04.42DrodoEmpireAnd you don't always want excessively-destructive weapons
20:04.48DrodoEmpireFriendly-fire can suck :p
20:04.56HachimanI like to think that old European cannons are powerful enough to blow through most infantry armour due to the sheer amount of ballistic power
20:04.57DrodoEmpireAnd destroying potentially valuable assets
20:05.08OluapPlayerKoluap - THAT'LL TEACH YOU NOT TO GET ON THE DAMN WAY STUPID
20:05.20DrodoEmpireHachi: Well yes, its a big ball crushing you
20:05.29DrodoEmpireReally now that I think about it
20:05.59Monet_2So if you're using antimatter for an antipersonel rifle, anything more than a few nanograms might be overkill as you'd turn your target into a bomb.
20:06.04DrodoEmpireMost muskets would probably be effective against modern body armour by virtue of being subsonic rounds that are just... Really... Big...
20:06.26DrodoEmpireI mean even if it doesn't penetrate the armour, it'll still crush whatever's behind it through sheer force
20:06.38Monet_2DrodoEmpire: True.
20:06.55DrodoEmpireIf not go right through the armour, as modern body armour is made to stop small rounds going faster than sound
20:07.05DrodoEmpireNot what is the exact opposite. :p
20:08.23DrodoEmpireI think I read somewhere about Afghan tribesmen actually using old P53 muskets to deadly effect during Soviet/American occupation
20:08.28DrodoEmpireIt was a while back though
20:08.29Monet_2And yes you don't want excessive destruction. Even if you rely on an infinite supply of robots, you'd risk reducing your own numbers in the hort-term.
20:08.38DrodoEmpire^
20:08.56Monet_2Mainly because infinite supply or not, you still need to ship i nrepalcements.
20:08.58DrodoEmpireWhich can give an enemy a chance to regroup and crush your now decimated army. :p
20:09.22Monet_2And those few seconds of a reduced garrison can mean victory or defeat.
20:10.38DrodoEmpireYeah... Big thing about war is that even if you have effectively infinite resources or assets, that doesn't much matter if you can't move or use those resources and assets quickly or effectively
20:11.17TechnobliteratorLoron are as strong as the plot demands, because the plot currently demands them to be very strong
20:11.24Technobliteratorotherwise they'd lose immediately
20:11.29DrodoEmpireA *lot* of empires have lost a *lot* of wars by forgetting that. >.<
20:11.29Technobliteratoralso, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Loron/Da_Geekz I remodelled this page
20:11.38Technobliteratorthey're now all ruled by the Rogue Geek, yo
20:11.46DrodoEmpireTech: I'm not criticising you. I'm just saying. :p
20:11.53OluapPlayerI thought that was always the case
20:12.04OluapPlayerAlso red links
20:12.12TechnobliteratorYeah, but this time, the Rogue Geek can literally assume control of any of them
20:12.13DrodoEmpireI don't care either way personally
20:12.15Technobliteratorwhich red links?
20:12.28OluapPlayerSystem, Rogue Boyz mispelled
20:13.18MonetDrodoEmpire: A nation's effectiveness with logsitics can decide the fate of their wars. That was one of the problems of the late Roman Empire.
20:13.24DrodoEmpire^
20:13.47Technobliteratorfixed
20:14.10Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Da_Propa_Big_Rogue_Geek#Quotes add quotes, yo
20:14.27DrodoEmpireMonet: Plus the Roman military was staffed by weak barbarian Christian serfs instead of manly pagan men. <.<
20:16.01Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg/KRepublic nice shiny new message templates
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20:17.32DrodoEmpireHi
20:17.42OluapPlayerwher kithworto at
20:17.44ZF101Helllo all.
20:17.57XhoOluapPlayer: You'll see in a sec
20:18.05MonetI think it's been suggested that the Western world has the output to feed the rest of the world. The problem lies in a secure supply chain to places that are, to put it lightly, either unstable or somewhat out of the way,
20:18.10OluapPlayerSuddenly, he left to the Dominion
20:18.23OluapPlayerXi'Arazkha - welcome home u piece of shit
20:18.45DrodoEmpireMonet: Right
20:18.51XhoKithworto - get fukked u immoral twats
20:19.08MonetWe can feel the world, we just can't ensure all that food gets to where it needs to be.
20:19.09Monetfeed*
20:19.15Charles_BotWell
20:19.23Charles_BotMost of the world can't afford it
20:19.35MonetThats' the other issue
20:19.47Charles_BotThat's one of many issues
20:19.59Charles_BotWith a market approach to development
20:20.47DrodoEmpirebut if we split duh powurball evenlee den everybody wud hav a million dollers!!1 poverdy solved
20:20.54DrodoEmpirerite???
20:21.07OluapPlayeryuy
20:21.42HachimanGive each person in the world a million dollars; I can guarantee there will be people who are willing to fight other people so they have more than the rest
20:21.58DrodoEmpireYeah exactly. It wouldn't solve much of anything
20:22.02MonetThere is another issue
20:22.04OluapPlayerGive everyone a small loan of a million dollars
20:22.28MonetGive everyone a million dollars and suddenly the purchasing power of one dollar falls though the floor.
20:22.32DrodoEmpire^
20:22.33DrodoEmpireExactly
20:22.50DrodoEmpirePrices would probably just rise to match
20:24.03HachimanGive African natives in poverty a consistent and even amount of food to reduce starvation; there will be natives who will fight and kill others so they will have more food than the rest
20:24.23HachimanHumans are as selfish a species as they are a social one
20:24.29HachimanAlthough to be fair
20:24.36HachimanSelfishness is an inherent trait for survival
20:24.49DrodoEmpireThough... Food security *also* has a great way to reduce crime rate
20:25.20DrodoEmpireBecause if you have enough food to live, then the average person has less need to go out and steal and kill
20:25.28MonetTrue Hachi; in order to ensure the survival of your friends, it helps you've ensured your own survival first.
20:25.31DrodoEmpireThere'll always be criminals but I mean it wouldn't be anarchy
20:26.08HachimanI remember an interesting discussion brought up once that animals have never developed systems that can be equated to roads because roads are not a product of selfishness
20:26.25DrodoEmpireHmm interesting
20:26.43DrodoEmpireYeah roads or any large public work are a communal thing
20:27.18DrodoEmpireA nice road, a fort, or a temple aren't things an individual would find useful
20:27.26DrodoEmpireBut they're things societies do find useful
20:27.29HachimanAye
20:28.08Monet"human nature" is the dual combination of selfishness and communal spirit.
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20:28.31HachimanAnd animals lack communal spirit beyond their own families
20:29.12DrodoEmpire^
20:29.51DrodoEmpireHumans are rather unique in that we are able to organize ourselves in larger groups- tribes, ethnicities, nations, countries, etc.
20:30.01DrodoEmpireProbably because we're capable of abstract thinking
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20:31.32DrodoEmpireHi
20:32.19DrodoEmpireI actually have a really good book, I believe its called "Sapiens" that describes what we're talking about really well
20:32.28DrodoEmpireDon't have it right now though it doesn't seem
20:33.04Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#New_Councillor_Voted_In everyone look pls
20:33.39HachimanSo even if humans are the only animal which actively destroys its own environment and others - which is not true - we are also the only species capable of thinking on a large communal level
20:33.56DrodoEmpire^
20:34.23LuxorHereGood evening
20:34.24Wormy_While people get pessimistic about the state of poverty and such today, it is actually in a much better state than many social scientists predicted in the mid 20th century.  Many were prophessying that we would all be starving due to overpopulation.  Things are, slowly, getting better, though unforseeable problems will always arise as well.  We must solve them, but we cannot prevent the unforseeable.
20:34.46The_RandomnessThis the best time in human history, really
20:34.57DrodoEmpireWe're the only species observed to consciously organize in groups larger than a small tribe
20:35.03DrodoEmpireWormy: Yeah that
20:35.07DrodoEmpire*that's true
20:35.12LuxorHereI don't think we can observe anything similiar to overpopulation yet
20:35.27HachimanHuh
20:35.28DrodoEmpireStatistically speaking, the world is far from falling apart, its actually getting much better
20:35.30HachimanSo Kithworto is missing
20:35.34LuxorHerethere's a lot of free space, especially in China and India
20:35.44DrodoEmpireLuxor: Problem with that is geography
20:35.50LuxorHere40 kilometers from city and poof, villages and forests
20:35.53DrodoEmpireNobody wants to live in shitty steppes
20:36.01HachimanMongols
20:36.02ZF101And deserts.
20:36.03LuxorHereSteppes are very nice grounds to live on
20:36.03OluapPlayerKithworto: Gigaquadrantic hide-and-seek champion
20:36.25LuxorHereand Mongolia is just a very dry region
20:36.32LuxorHeresteppes aren't a problem there.
20:36.35HachimanKithworto vs Osama bin Ladin vs Madeline McCann
20:36.36DrodoEmpireHachi: Yeah but I get the feeling the got the short-straw >.<
20:36.43HachimanHide and seek champions of the world
20:36.45DrodoEmpireAt least for a while
20:36.58MonetLuxorHere: Only realyl good for farmland
20:37.00XhoKithworto - i got like 93 billion light years to cover fuk dem
20:37.22LuxorHerethe will of living in steppes is rather a climate thing
20:37.28LuxorHereHungary for example, steppes everywhere
20:37.29DrodoEmpireLuxor: Its dry and cold and flat and usually a little far from water sources
20:37.36LuxorHerebut neat climat makes it fancy to live there.
20:37.46Wormy_I'm a believer in the idea "Problems are inevitable.  Problems are soluble."  Creativity and culture is probably one of the few things we have that animals don't (at least in any complex way), and that implies large social structures and abstract thinking
20:37.51DrodoEmpireYou *can* live there for sure but I doubt its many peoples' first choice
20:38.06LuxorHerePeople do not live in place they do not want to
20:38.09MonetNo trees for instance, and water supplies are quite spread out I believe.
20:38.15LuxorHereHumanity is a very stubborn civilization, in fact.
20:38.17Xho"Supreme Warlord Kitzíntauchon Rāmalánaon, Administrator of Defence of the Kicathian Republic, Supreme Commander of the Gigauqadrantic Naval Forces and Commander of the Pax Infinitus Armada"    That is quite a title though
20:38.23DrodoEmpireWormy: I agree
20:38.40DrodoEmpireLuxor: Tell that to the migrating germanic tribes. :p
20:38.51DrodoEmpireOr the native americans that were displaced for that matter
20:39.19ImperiosHachiman: But steppe and desert people usually invade other people for land
20:39.20MonetLuxorHere: Humans *love* living near water.
20:39.23DrodoEmpire^
20:39.26LuxorHereyup.
20:39.26OluapPlayerKithworto actually hid himself inside Koluap's coffin and will spend the rest of his days cradling his skeletons
20:39.29OluapPlayerskeleton even
20:39.32XhoKithworto - :c
20:39.41LuxorHereUkraine is a really good place to live anyway.
20:39.50HachimanI wonder how much Koluap's microphone will sell for
20:39.59LuxorHereLots of steppes for farming, big amount of forests, and huge river covering whole country.
20:40.03MonetNotice the most populous (and arguably prosperous) parts of the world are on the coasts.
20:40.07XhoKithworto - nothing       its mine now
20:40.19MonetNotice how the world's largest cities are connected to large bodies of water.
20:40.21LuxorHereProblems are several separatist groups on east and ukrainian economy
20:40.33DrodoEmpireLuxor: ...That's true
20:40.44Wormy_Unfortunately while we have creativity, we have not always used it.  We've had the same abilities to think about stars for thousands of years, but none of that made a dent.  But within 40 years of examining the spectra of starlight, after the Enlightenment of course, we had the full explanation.  Of nuclear reactions, the transmutation of elements that the alchemists sought but failed to find.  Antimatter and neutrinoes, unexpected di
20:40.45DrodoEmpireIsn't the Ukraine a *very* fertile place?
20:41.04Xhoy no one reply on udb
20:41.07Xhour all lazi and evil
20:41.11LuxorHereit is
20:41.19OluapPlayercus replying takes time shup
20:41.28Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/purrfectboxuk/videos/1701711656774674/ Also have a super cute
20:41.35DrodoEmpireWormy: Here's the thing; People *have* pondered about stars for millenia. :p
20:41.35Wormy_*neutrinos
20:41.39Wormy_Precisely
20:41.40DrodoEmpireWe just haven't had the instruments to observe them very closely until recently
20:41.45MonetXho: "Supreme Commander of the Gigauqadrantic Naval Forces" huh?
20:41.47LuxorHereXho: Cuteness overwhelming
20:42.01XhoMonet: Kicathian Gigaquadrantic Naval Forces
20:42.08XhoThat's the name of their military body
20:42.11OluapPlayerXho: This kills the heart
20:42.12OluapPlayerAlso replied
20:42.19MonetXho: That makes more sense
20:42.23Wormy_But you must ask why it took so long to have a long-term Enlightenment
20:42.32LuxorHere...Naval forces
20:42.48Wormy_History has lots of minature ones, but they never lasted a generation or two
20:42.49ImperiosDrodoEmpire: Yes it is but Ukrainians were not really a farmer people
20:42.51ImperiosIronically
20:43.04LuxorHereUkrainians=cossacks=robbers=kebab enemies
20:43.23LuxorHereCheck out 'Cossacks write to Sultan' on wikipedia.
20:43.25DrodoEmpireWormy: Well the 18th century enlightenment came about as the pinnacle of the renaissance, which was a rediscovery of classical age knowledge
20:43.31XhoLuxorHere: The Kicath's naval and military body are a joint body altogether
20:43.38ImperiosLuxorHere: That's what I wanted to sayh
20:43.41DrodoEmpireBasically when people *seriously* began to build upon the works of the ancients
20:43.41LuxorHereSounds better
20:43.47ImperiosThey got most of their sustenance from attacking everyone else hur
20:43.48DrodoEmpireThe classical era was an enlightened time
20:44.03LuxorHereI don't think navy is anymore a thing in FU
20:44.11DrodoEmpire"Navy
20:44.17DrodoEmpire*Navy" as in "Space navy"
20:44.22LuxorHereIf so.
20:44.23XhoSo usually most Kicath who are eligible to serve on a vessel are also equally eligible to be a footsoldier
20:44.36HachimanI can imagine Hachiman going out of his way to attempt finding Kithworto
20:44.47MonetYeah that's the interesting thing. A lot of fiction uses "naval forces" but aren't most NASA personnel with military backgrounds former USAF staff?
20:44.47XhoKithworto - YOU FOUND ME               NOW THE UNIVERSE MUST END
20:45.02HachimanHachiman - not on my watch nigga
20:45.13OluapPlayerSantorakh - yes on my watch cracka
20:45.22XhoAngazhar - [Angazhar is confused]
20:45.29DrodoEmpireAnd the reason it was so enlightened comes down- a lot- to the favourable geography of certain regions allowing for a large food supply, who could then support an elite which could think about shit and come up with new stuff. :p
20:45.46DrodoEmpire*a large food supply, plus ample natural resources
20:45.56Wormy_Yeah, and they began to question the authorities that developed.  "Nullius in Verba", was the motto of the Royal Society.  "Take nobody's word for it"
20:45.57XhoThe truth is that Kithworto has left the universe
20:46.07DrodoEmpireAnd preferably an area that is naturally a good location to trade wit
20:46.08DrodoEmpire*with
20:46.12MonetThough I guess with the size of vessels being manned, having a naval background probably makes a lot more sense.
20:46.24HachimanKithworto - fuck this gay universe
20:46.47OluapPlayerHe left to another universe, where he got plastic surgery and changed his name to Kinmorunddraver
20:47.06XhoKithworto - dammit
20:47.07Technobliteratoraw, Xho made a UDB post
20:47.15Technobliteratornow I feel bad about being about to make one
20:47.22Technobliteratorbecause I might steal all the thunder
20:47.37OluapPlayerPerhaps wait a bit before publishing
20:47.39HachimanKithworto - gud no moar gay rabbits         Hachi - hi         Kithworto - FUCK
20:48.29Xhodear god
20:48.50ImperiosGay rabbits
20:48.56ImperiosIntriguing
20:48.58TechnobliteratorSo, they removed Kithworto? Wow
20:49.09Hachimanremove kicath
20:49.20HachimanThey removed Kithworto and then Kithworto removed himself from everything ever
20:49.28OluapPlayerREMOVE DEMIGOD
20:49.32XhoAngazhar - not sure if win or not
20:49.39LuxorHereso much removal going out there
20:49.51LuxorHerereminds me of Serbia :I
20:50.12XhoKithworto - REMOVE GAY UNIVERSE
20:50.30HachimanThis now leaves Hachiman as one of the remaining demigods in the Gigaquadrant
20:50.32OluapPlayerSantorakh - DOMINION STRONG *plays Volim like accordion*
20:50.44HachimanKithworto has left the fate of the universe on the shoulders of a virgin
20:51.19MonetAt one tiem virginity was seen as a sign of purity
20:51.41HachimanYes; by Catholic priests
20:51.50LuxorHerehur
20:51.56OluapPlayerHachiman is definitely not pure
20:52.02LuxorHerehur^2
20:52.05OluapPlayerAlso didn't he fuck Mirror Iovera anyway
20:52.10HachimanOh yeah he did
20:52.19MonetHachiman: You sure it was just them?
20:52.33ImperiosOluapPlayer: Well more like she fucked her
20:52.38Imperioshim even
20:52.39HachimanMonet: I was making a pedophilia joke
20:52.54MonetHachiman: Yes I know
20:53.06OluapPlayerNonetheless, Hachi's dong was inside her
20:53.11OluapPlayerHe's no virgin anymore
20:53.19MonetBut I recall the ROmans had a god of virginity.
20:53.20Monetwell, goddess
20:54.06Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  Well yeah, you can't take geography out of the picture.  But not can one take out the human element, plenty of cultures did have good resources (or theieved it of others) and still remained static.  But my feelings is that now our knowledge has reached a level such that we could survive if some resources reached their peak, or the Earth becomes polluted.  It may not be a good way to live, but we would overcome them.
20:54.12HachimanSo Iovera has fucked both a semi-daemonic dragonlike warrior with anger issues and a perverse angelic rabbit teenager
20:54.19HachimanIn a sense
20:54.20Wormy_^but nor can you
20:54.42Wormy_*we could
20:54.44ImperiosMonet: Well they had vestal virgins
20:54.46Wormy_not would as in certainty
20:54.55LuxorHereThis discussion gets more interesting with every second.
20:55.02ZF101...
20:55.11OluapPlayerIovera is disgusting regardless of what universe she comes from
20:55.32LuxorHerepoor drom
20:55.38HachimanIt is funny because Hachiman handed Tyraz' ass to him once
20:55.58ImperiosOluapPlayer: Quite ironically considering she is the Pope of the Fictionverse
20:55.59Imperios*ironic
20:56.01HachimanEmo gets stomped by a virgin
20:56.18MonetLol
20:56.28OluapPlayerRodent of Andromeda likes to put strange things in herself
20:56.32OluapPlayerKoluap - this is why i hated zealots
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20:56.47HachimanIt seems less weird with Hachi and Iovera because they are both rodents
20:56.57MonetSometiems I wonder if Tyraz is technically emo, since he probably does have clinical depression.
20:57.07HachimanHe is emo
20:57.07ImperiosAren't bunnies not rodents but lagomorphs
20:57.14HachimanLagomorphs are rodents
20:57.36HachimanOh
20:57.39HachimanWait no they are not
20:58.09HachimanLagomorphs and rodents share similar attributes but they are different enough to have separate orders
20:58.55OluapPlayerKoluap - RADEON EVOLVED FROM RABBITS
20:59.11MonetI'm not that clued up if "emo" is just used to describe angsty over-emotional people or if one can have clinical depression and still be legitimately called emo.
20:59.33OluapPlayerThe former
20:59.41HachimanOne can have clinical depression and still be angsty and over-emotional
20:59.43OluapPlayerIf you have actual depression then you're depressive
20:59.44LuxorHereBed awais me, cya
21:00.42HachimanSo Tyraz is depressive then
21:00.42Wormy_Depression can vary though, some people are manic and then depressive
21:00.48MonetThat's how I've come to see Tyraz. He's broken, humailiated, suffering, no way is he your classic angsty teenager because beings beyond mortal comprehension whant ot string his guts out.
21:01.19HachimanTyraz is still a bit of an edgelord though
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21:01.47MonetWith the kind of baggage he has, I'd say it's jsutified.
21:01.50HachimanHachiman has gone through similar ordeals by this point and he is not an edgelord like Tyraz is
21:01.57HachimanHi Panda
21:02.04AdmiralPandahi all
21:02.08MonetHi
21:02.33OluapPlayerHi
21:02.38The_RandomnessHello
21:02.39MonetHachiman: Hachi always had someone to turn to after Thea'niahra adopted him.
21:02.45HachimanTrue
21:02.49ImperiosWell Ty has Io
21:02.59OluapPlayerhad
21:03.01OluapPlayerhuehue
21:03.05TechnobliteratorI thought this should all be in past tense
21:03.12Technobliteratorand Tyraz is dead or something
21:03.31MonetUntil Tyraz met Koluap and Iovera, I don't recal lhim having anyone.
21:03.33OluapPlayerTyraz is dead but the fiction where he dies has not/will never be written
21:03.38Hachiman;-;
21:03.38TechnobliteratorI don't recall which fiction the Zazane died in
21:03.40Technobliteratoroh, right
21:03.51Technobliteratorwhat happens in it?
21:03.56HachimanCannot tell you
21:03.59XhoTyraz dies
21:04.02HachimanYeah
21:04.02OluapPlayerGolden Movement is the fiction
21:04.06ImperiosCrispy falls
21:04.08ImperiosEveryone dies
21:04.08OluapPlayerZazane don't die, just Tyraz
21:04.11Hachimankek
21:04.36Technobliteratorso, we can never know about a fiction that will never be written?
21:04.37Technobliterator:c
21:04.45HachimanI do plan on writing it
21:05.00OluapPlayerAt the next Halley Comet pass-by
21:05.04HachimanYes
21:05.06TechnobliteratorEven I finished fictions faster : |
21:05.14MonetHonestly Hachi, at this point there might be some merit to not hiding everything since who knows, it might have broader ripples in the fictionverse.
21:05.16Xhoshots fired
21:05.23TechnobliteratorWhich is actually depressingly true
21:05.41HachimanGah but spoilers
21:05.47OluapPlayer>9 December 2023
21:05.51MonetWe already know Tyraz dies.
21:05.53OluapPlayerHey, that's not too far away
21:05.56ImperiosHachi spoiled a few things to me
21:05.58HachimanOh fuck
21:06.02ImperiosAbout Crispy mostly
21:06.06ImperiosCan I tell?
21:06.09Hachimannon
21:06.16OluapPlayerWe'll see Halley's Comet in 7 years
21:06.16HachimanThat is one of the things you must not tell
21:06.23Xho2 old
21:06.30Imperiosrite
21:06.55OluapPlayerI mean I also know the plot on the basis that I helped make it
21:06.59TechnobliteratorAnd we will see a new fiction in very sooooooooooon :ooo
21:07.10drom_Dailing to all the Badmins here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/Sandbox/awbg-inner
21:07.30OluapPlayerBut it annoys me that it's not happening 4 years later
21:07.35OluapPlayerGolden Movement started in 2012
21:07.42HachimanI have been very busy
21:07.54OluapPlayerFour years
21:08.04HachimanI have been very busy at college for four years
21:08.21OluapPlayerSo have I, your excuse means very little to me hur
21:08.34HachimanI feel like I mean very little to you in general
21:08.40Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/fakyuscrub/videos/920769254687028/
21:08.42OluapPlayer>imblygn
21:09.08MonetLet's all calm down. Deep breaths.
21:09.34OluapPlayerI'm not mad. We've had this talk a thousand times already
21:10.03HachimanI'm not angry either
21:10.09Xhostahp bein angry
21:10.12HachimanThough admittedly I do get a bit sad and embarassed
21:10.16MonetWHat might be needed is time management.
21:10.34Xho>time management
21:10.39Xhogets PTSD from work
21:10.54TechnobliteratorNo need to be upset. It's just a hobby.
21:11.05OluapPlayerDon't be upsetti, have some spaguetti
21:11.15Hachiman*spaghetti
21:11.23TechnobliteratorIt's not like any of us are paid for anything we do on this site, other than me in a few year's time
21:11.25MonetXho: I get the same kind of talk from my uni lecturers
21:11.35HachimanHonestly at this point I think I may as well work in reverse; get GM done then work on revising and making prequel fics
21:11.45Hachimanjus so u lot can shup bout it
21:11.48OluapPlayerAlso I was wrong about Halley's it seems. It'll only be visible again in 2061
21:12.00OluapPlayer45 years
21:12.01OluapPlayeryick
21:12.01Xhostill enough
21:12.12Charles_BotXho: Gigaquadrantic Naval Forces?
21:12.19TechnobliteratorWell, 45 years is an equally realistic timeframe for Hachi to have not started Golden Movement
21:12.20Technobliterator;D
21:12.25XhoCharles_Bot: Refer to the conversation above
21:12.26HachimanOuch
21:12.35HachimanLike seriously it is starting to get to me now
21:12.46MonetVery few movies are recorded in chronological order.
21:13.05OluapPlayerdat cheeky
21:13.08OluapPlayerBut okay, I'll stop
21:13.20HachimanMy only fear about writing GM first before prequel fic is that its ending will not make sense
21:13.20Technobliteratorand then MGS has literally no chronological order
21:13.42OluapPlayerThere's this ting called "edit button" you can use to fix things
21:13.59MonetHachiman: One of the advantages if that methodology is the prequel fic can look more consistent
21:14.06OluapPlayerOh, wait
21:14.13OluapPlayerOkay I see what you mean
21:14.22Hachimanyeh u fukn cheeky goober
21:14.24OluapPlayerBut if you actually GET things done, it won't be an issue
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21:14.57dromHold on a fukken minute
21:14.57OluapPlayerI would personally prefer doing it all in chronological order, but that's just me
21:14.58dromdid they remove the "rename" feature for images?
21:15.00MonetAlso it's not liek we write a story then it's forgotten about
21:15.02MonetSOmetimes we go back
21:15.22TechnobliteratorYeah, but Oluap, you're like a machine who can never stop editing once you start as long as it's not Loron pages
21:15.34TechnobliteratorWe don't all have your superhuman editing abilities :c
21:15.40OluapPlayerYes
21:15.46OluapPlayerWhy DON'T you have my superhuman editing abilities
21:15.49OluapPlayerEveryone is slow but me
21:15.54TechnobliteratorNot everyone!
21:15.59Technobliteratorpoints to Debug Squid Bot
21:16.07TechnobliteratorTruly, the most potent editor on the Wiki
21:16.12MonetI have university
21:16.12Charles_BotXho: I meant why are they Gigaquadrantic?
21:16.19OluapPlayerDebug Squid has no fiction of his own, he doesn't count
21:16.22dromTechnobliterator: Do me a favor and delete "File:Maeiron-full.png", because the filename is misspelled.
21:16.27Technobliteratorsure
21:16.30XhoBecause it refers to the Gigaquadrantic entity of the Kicathian presence
21:16.35XhoIt's a translation from Kicathian
21:16.38Charles_BotGot it
21:18.13Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2b/Kitmnataza_Thekaznunnon.png/revision/latest?cb=20160206211612 grumpy councillor mann
21:18.43OluapPlayerXeron - no place for 2 grumpy councillors here
21:18.53XhoKitmnataza - wat about kithworto tho
21:19.49TechnobliteratorWell, the Council may have lost Kithworto, but it gained Tuolog
21:19.55TechnobliteratorSo it still has one demigod at least
21:20.20OluapPlayerOkay time to go
21:20.47XhoThat may have been a reason behind Kithworto's departure
21:21.03XhoTuolog's powerful and demigod-like enough for Kithworto to not be around
21:21.38XhoTuolog has a much friendlier persona than Kithworto as well
21:22.15dromTechnobliterator: und dis http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/Sandbox/awbg-inner
21:22.46dromThanks in advance
21:23.23TechnobliteratorSo, Kithworto kind of left in shame?
21:24.03XhoNo, Kithworto has his own reasons
21:24.26XhoIt's mainly out of the fact that the universe doesn't really need his universe-altering powers at the moment
21:24.31Technobliteratorahh
21:25.04XhoSo it's likely he's going around to different universes and doing his essential-god gimmick there
21:26.48HachimanHachiman - fuk u gimme moar work 2 do
21:27.15XhoKithworto - im not ur boss           dum rabbit
21:33.32ZF101Man I am soo bored.
21:34.52Xhohttp://www.theladbible.com/articles/this-is-apparently-what-an-untouched-mcdonald-s-happy-meal-looks-like-after-six-years-060216 If this is true, then well
21:35.02XhoMcDonalds are paying shitloads for false advertising
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21:37.21ZF101It's those perservatives. Too much salt and shit on their food.
21:38.56DrodoEmpireXho: I do know that some foods like hamburgers won't really rot if its in a dry environment- It'll just dry out
21:39.03DrodoEmpireThat goes for any hamburger
21:39.08XhoTrue
21:43.15dromGave Maeiorn a proper protrait http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Gigaquadrantic_Alliance#President_of_the_Gigaquadrantic_Assembly
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21:44.29dromCharles_Murray: c Maeiorn http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Gigaquadrantic_Alliance#President_of_the_Gigaquadrantic_Assembly
21:44.42Charles_MurrayYeah :D Well done
21:44.51Charles_MurrayGit back on #Katar u
21:45.18dromlater, gonna play XCOM 2 which I just torrented recently
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21:53.28dromGood to see my GPU being in 100% use
22:02.32ZF101Bye bye all.
22:11.38TekDroidWho change my UGA President's name back. >.<
22:13.59TekDroidEr... what happened to my edit...
22:15.09TekDroidDamnit, didn't submit. >.<
22:15.31dromMonet: Love how the "package" you have to fetch and deliever in the tutorial mission is you, the commander.
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22:57.29DrodoEmpireHi everyone
22:57.47GhelHello.
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23:13.41GhelHello.
23:14.15TybusenHello
23:25.44dromMonet_2: The Sectoids in XCOM 2 are so goddamn mean
23:25.57Monet_2I'e heard
23:26.04Monet_2They used to be so pathetic before
23:27.45dromHigh health pool already at start, proper mind control and can even raise dead as zombies.
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23:30.55ImpyDroidHi
23:31.10ImpyDroidGoing to work a bit more on the Klaxxa tomorrow
23:31.36ImpyDroidHachiman: I thought of making the Klaxxa society matriarchal but I am not sure if I should do that
23:31.42ImpyDroidIt could make them a bit too alien
23:31.51HachimanLizards do tend to be matriarchal
23:32.14HachimanSo it would not make them too alien
23:32.22MonetConsidering the importance of the matriarchs, being matriarchal would make sense
23:32.22XhoAs long as you make a Klaxxa Matriarch called Fem-Nazi we're all good
23:33.28HachimanOhgod
23:34.12ImpyDroidXho: But if they are a matriarch they should have Masc-Nazis
23:34.24Xhowell den dats ur prob
23:35.42MonetI feel there's something ironic in "feminazi"
23:35.55ImpyDroidKirche und kinder?
23:36.23ImpyDroidHm
23:36.26MonetThey're all abotu "oppressed women of the world unite!" but only serve to alienate themselves form more moderate feminists
23:36.34ImpyDroidAye
23:37.16ImpyDroidThinking of IRL societies where women had more rights, generally warlike nations also were fairly matriarchal
23:37.30ImpyDroidMight seem strange, but it makes sense
23:37.49ImpyDroidMen off fighting -> women do shit in their place
23:38.09ImpyDroidThen again being reptiles females may be the stronger gender in their culture
23:38.54MonetImpyDroid: You have a species where there's a small chance of females becoming giant dragon women.
23:39.20ImpyDroidWell yes but they are also extremely valuable
23:39.26ImpyDroidThey should not fight probably
23:40.36MonetNo but those women being closer to their ancestral lineage should give them some authority in a society where being pureblooded is seen as a thing to be admired.
23:41.45ImpyDroidYeah of course
23:42.16ImpyDroidNow I wonder if Klaxxa could have women in the military
23:43.25ImpyDroidActually I find it funny that almost all of my Fantasy verse factions and several of my Fictionverse factions are extremely patriarchal
23:43.37ImpyDroid[TRIGGERING INTENSIFIES]
23:45.51Technobliteratorwell
23:45.58Technobliteratorthe Loron are the most patriarchal of all
23:46.30ImpyDroidTrue
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23:49.06ImpyDroidOkay now I thought of a very ewww thing
23:50.26ImpyDroidKlaxxa males having crop milk that is
23:51.41Xhosdsfb
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23:52.35ImpyDroidHi Ink I am thinking of making the Klaxxa a matriarchy
23:52.57ImpyDroidYou of all people should be able to give advice
23:53.56Liquid_InkSo female dominant?
23:54.43ImpyDroidSort of yes
23:55.03TekDroidI thought they were already?
23:55.04ImpyDroid...Not in THAT sense of course
23:55.14Hachimanlol
23:55.19ImpyDroidThough
23:55.27Hachiman>implying Ink is underheel
23:55.38Liquid_InkPardon?
23:55.55ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink: Russian term that Hachi liked
23:56.02ImpyDroidMeans "a submissive husband"
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23:56.33Liquid_InkWell, I'm certainly not a domineering patriarch.
23:57.15Liquid_InkAny, whenever I see matriarchy try to be done in fiction they end up with really butch women abusing slender androgynous men. Female may rule male, but it's still masculinity ruling femininity, at least on a human level.
23:57.40ImpyDroidThat is kind of what I am trying to avoid
23:58.23Liquid_InkSo what you need to do is ensure the Klaxxa matriarchs are women, and not just vagina-men.
23:59.00TechnobliteratorThere's a matriarch in Bravely Default
23:59.20Liquid_InkIf you're just slapping maculine gender roles on females and feminine gender roles on males, it's still a patriarchy; the men just have vaginas and the women have penises.

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