IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160201

00:10.22Wormy_"What's that, it's a skeleton" > shows a rather skeletal bald man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDEtqyktNQ
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00:18.10Zf101Hello all.
00:23.29Zf101Uh..Is this working?
00:23.38MonetYes
00:24.14Zf101Ah. Between "Hello" and "All" I was afraid I had said something awkward.
00:25.14TekDroidCGP Grey being sarcastic is just plain creepy.
00:25.58TekDroidhttps://youtu.be/Z-Zr7c-J6qE
00:26.12TekDroidAlmost forgot my context link
01:03.27Wormy_bye
03:27.19Comrade_VinnyHEy!
03:27.26Comrade_VinnySomebody on?¸
03:29.21DrodoEmpireSeveral are, indeed
03:34.32Comrade_VinnyHey!
03:34.58DrodoEmpireOh, hi!
03:38.11Comrade_Vinnystarting a new CK2 game
03:38.14Comrade_Vinnyin Croatia
03:40.03DrodoEmpireOh nice
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03:46.31DrodoEmpireHi
03:46.39tcmhi
03:46.51tcmare there any alternatives to turbolasers
03:47.41DrodoEmpireYes, a few
03:47.49DrodoEmpireEspecially powerful railguns for example
03:48.12DrodoEmpireGoing the Star Trek route, things like Photon Torpedoes or Phasers
03:48.29DrodoEmpireHowever I should note that such weapons are becoming somewhat obsolete
03:48.35DrodoEmpireAs in all of them
03:48.49tcmwhy is that
03:48.56DrodoEmpireBecause of Angelfire missikles
03:48.59DrodoEmpire*Missiles
03:49.25tcmthose are the missiles that travel through hyperspace?
03:49.36DrodoEmpireI'm not so sure what their distribution are so far, but basically they're hyperspatial missiles holding a load of antimatter/whatever else and act of standard ship-to-ship weapons
03:49.37DrodoEmpireYes
03:49.59DrodoEmpireUsing turbolasers and conventional weapons *could* be useful, in, say, a close-range skirmish or when fighting over a planet
03:50.12DrodoEmpireBut really with angelfire around they're basically the space-bayonet
03:50.23DrodoEmpireUseful in close quarters but not much else
03:50.48DrodoEmpireThough even worse now too because bayonets were also potent psychological weapons- Not so much with turbolasers
03:50.55DrodoEmpireAnyhow
03:51.01DrodoEmpireI'd talk to Charles about that
03:57.34AdmiralPandaAnd people wonder why I've lost interest in the universe so much :P
03:58.24DrodoEmpire...Because weapon technology advanced?
03:58.33DrodoEmpireAnd you have no obligation to follow the trend?
03:59.09AdmiralPandaI personally have no obligation to, but when it's the default your options are either use the default or don't participate in anything that does
03:59.41Charles_MurrayI'm not sure it's quite the default
03:59.53DrodoEmpireOr you could be a bit more creative with tactics, or ask for a compromise because people can do that
03:59.54Charles_MurrayHyperspatial warfare is being treated generally on an opt-in basis
04:00.08tcmit's a little intimidating, i think
04:00.15DrodoEmpireOf course, yeah
04:00.37Charles_MurrayThough Angelfires and angelfire-like weaponry is becoming more and more widely available
04:00.38DrodoEmpireThat's why I'd sooner people communicate and be informed instead of say "this is why the wiki sucks now" :p
04:00.42DrodoEmpire*saying
04:00.58AdmiralPandaI didn't say the wiki sucks, I said I'm losing interest in it
04:00.59Charles_MurrayFrance, the TIAF, etc, are going to be mass-producing the thing and selling it on a massive scale, along with its accompanying technology
04:01.14Charles_MurrayMeaning its counters and whatnot
04:01.20Charles_MurraySo those who want to participate can
04:01.42Charles_MurrayAnd I'm still outfitting my ships to be able to fight in close quarters for those who don't
04:01.46AdmiralPandaanyway let's just drop the conversation, I'm not in the mood to take the time to fully explain my point
04:02.31tcmwhen i was first designing the bidonite empire i was really concerned they might be overpowered in some ways
04:02.48tcmthen i poked around some other empires' pages and i realized how incredibly underpowered they were :P
04:02.53DrodoEmpirePlus, there's still tactical usefulness for those sorts of weapons; Perhaps there's a sort of niche ship that is *heavily* defended against hyperspatial weaponry and rushes in close with things like turbolasers to exploit weaknesses?
04:03.08DrodoEmpireSuch as enemies that overrely on hyperspatial munitions
04:03.23Charles_MurrayWhich is definitely France
04:03.27DrodoEmpiretcm: Feedback's important for a balance. I say write what you want and get advice after
04:03.59DrodoEmpireI mean i used the comparison of turbolasers to a bayonet or sword
04:04.25Charles_MurrayI created hyperspatial warfare not to outclass other people or invent a new form of combat I could dominate by monopolizing the technology
04:04.30Charles_MurrayThat's not the point at all
04:04.33DrodoEmpireBut the difference here is that there's relatively cheap armour that can *deflect* the metaphorical musket ball
04:04.45DrodoEmpireright
04:05.00DrodoEmpireMeaning the close range shock troops could work
04:05.03DrodoEmpireAnyway
04:05.51Charles_MurrayThe point was to disentangle myself from the ship-to-ship turbolaser combat lifted from Star Wars which looks fantastic when rendered in a move, but makes absolutely no sense on the strategic scale.
04:06.28Charles_MurrayIn other words, hyperspatial warfare was meant as a system that would have consistent rules of engagement that would make sense and could level the playing field between tiers
04:06.37DrodoEmpireRight
04:06.51DrodoEmpireSo the firearm of Sporewiki, basically
04:06.51DrodoEmpire:p
04:06.56Charles_Murray^
04:07.11Charles_Murrayin a movie*
04:07.19tcmbasically, if you have missile launchers, you're a player?
04:07.40Charles_MurrayMuch less than that, actually
04:08.00Charles_MurrayIf you have a fighter that can launch that missile which you can deploy from one of your carriers, you're in business.
04:08.10Charles_MurrayOr if you have a ground-based launcher, that works too
04:08.15tcmnice
04:08.55Charles_MurrayFighting with the Angelfire is inspired by modern naval warfare, which is dominated by anti-ship guided missiles deployed from a wide variety of vehicles.
04:09.43Charles_MurrayActually installing Angelfire-capable launchers on ships requires extensive refits, but that's not too hard to do either.
04:12.37Charles_MurrayThen there's technology which makes your ship harder to track in hyperspace (ECM), and CIWS, which shoots down incoming missiles with other missiles or flak guns. Nations that don't have this can take advantage of the natural geography of hyperspace (hyperspatial fog) which allows them to conceal their ships
04:12.49Charles_MurrayAlso this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AVoid_hunter
04:12.57Charles_MurrayWhich can be used by smaller nations to level the playing field
04:17.07Charles_MurrayAll of these are widely being sold, which is perhaps the biggest change
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10:46.48dromWhy am I getting this shit? http://i.imgur.com/SHQUjC3.png
10:49.27dromTurns out that Privacy Badger flares red alarms because most of Wikia's resource hosting domains appears to be tracking me and my life
11:14.39dromTechnobliterator: Found your stallion http://i.imgur.com/oiAMHo8.jpg
11:17.19ImperiosLol I love that new SWTOR expansion
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11:22.40HachimanBzzt
11:22.41HachimanHai
11:23.37OluapPlayerhai
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11:26.50JepardiHi
11:30.48dromHachiman: http://puu.sh/mQa1d/6a2fc2da5b.jpg
11:31.11HachimanFuck off hur
11:31.55dromAnyway. Looking at a content creation thread. They decided to put in this as a playable species on the server I usually play on. http://puu.sh/mB4wh/9c8919a9a7.png
11:32.44HachimanWhat the fuck is that
11:33.57drom"Nooseman"
11:34.23dromOn the same server you can craft a noose using cables to hang yourself.
11:35.03dromClimb up on a table or a chair, craft the noose and then click on it. Ta-da you just hung yourself!
11:35.50HachimanJesus
11:35.50dromHachiman: Here's the thread http://hippiestation.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3222
12:03.56dromHachiman Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iym331fPek
12:27.34Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/69/Jacqueline_Delacroix.png/revision/latest?cb=20160201122717 Tried making a fictionverse human character
12:27.40ImperiosWhat do you think about the model?
12:28.10HachimanThose legs tho
12:29.00dromDem barbie legs
12:29.25dromImperios: Your model is a plot against russia's life standards
12:29.26ImperiosAs in too long?
12:29.33dromAnd therefore you must go to the guglag
12:29.52dromgulag even
12:29.58dromImperios: Too thin
12:30.22dromA bit too long too
12:30.42OluapPlayertoothpick legs
12:32.03ImperiosRight
12:32.05ImperiosWhat else
12:32.18OluapPlayerdats not a klaxxa
12:32.56OluapPlayerI have nothing else to add
12:39.20Imperiosdrom Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/cxZ3Hj0.png Tried to remake her a little bit
12:40.06dromI like the improvement of the legs
12:40.28dromOther than the fact it is Spore. It looks very good to me
12:49.07Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/69/Jacqueline_Delacroix.png/revision/latest?cb=20160201124814 And now with a cool pose
12:49.17dromNice
12:49.18ImperiosNow I only have to figure out what the hell is she supposed to be hur
12:49.22Imperios*she is
12:51.03OluapPlayerYou make a model without knowing what to do with it?
12:52.45ImperiosWell I have some basic idea of her character and the role she will play, but what exactly her personality and abilities will be I am yet to decide
12:53.03ImperiosShe'll be featured in a Shattering story at some point
12:59.04ImperiosI finally began finding ideas for it
13:01.28ImperiosHachiman:  Lovett-Graff details Lovecraft's dismay upon learning that he was not entirely of the teutonic lineage he loved to brag about;17 his great-great-grandmother was a "Welsh gentlewoman of unmixed Celtick blood." (SL I, 183)
13:01.35Imperios>Welsh gentlewoman of unmixed Celtick blood.
13:01.37ImperiosThe horror
13:15.30HachimanRight back, was afk
13:15.33HachimanOh wow
13:16.18ImperiosLittle did Lovecraft know that his ancestors made a pact with the Sheep Ones
13:16.46Hachimanhur
13:16.49HachimanAlso as for that woman
13:16.56HachimanYeah it is a great improvment
13:17.18HachimanAlso you should make her a psychic cowgirl
13:17.26HachimanOr sharpshooter
13:17.31HachimanOr markswoman or whatever
13:17.42OluapPlayerkeep ur fetishes to urself
13:19.18ImperiosYou can guess from her name where she would come from but I need to talk with Charles about that
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14:05.54dromCharles_Murray: Subject on the civics class today: national economics. Wooh.
14:18.37TekDroidlol
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14:39.22dromTekDroid: Combine that with common cold that gives me a dry and sore throat and an oscillating headache
14:40.41Tek0516O.o
14:50.48Tek0516Huh, just remembered my 3rd anniversary of joining the wiki is this month. XD
14:51.23ImperiosNOOOOOOOOOB
14:51.33Hachiman>3rd
14:51.41HachimanGet on our level kid
14:52.32Tek0516I'll catch up to you someday! -oh, right.
14:52.58ImperiosOnly when we die
14:57.38OluapPlayeru all nooblets compared to me
14:58.08dromGo back to your eldery home
15:02.41dromTek0516 ImpyDroid: This candy reads "Homosexual hello"
15:05.51Charles_Murraydrom : Yay!
15:12.16dromCharles_Murray: I've got headache though, it makes it harder to think completely
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15:14.47dromTekDroid Jepardi Charles_Murray Hachiman: "Delicious eel" http://i.imgur.com/uTpftas.jpg
15:15.35drom"Stupid smile" http://i.imgur.com/8bsaXUp.jpg
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15:16.51CyrannianHello everyone
15:16.52OluapPlayer~strangle Cyrannian
15:16.54infobotACTION strangles Cyrannian with a mouse cord.
15:17.08Cyrannianooh a new one
15:17.19OluapPlayerdat not ew
15:17.20OluapPlayernew*
15:17.28Cyrannian~crush OluapPlayer
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15:18.04DrodoEmpireHi everyone
15:19.00dromHey
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15:21.44CyrannianHai
15:31.12ImpyDroidHi
15:35.21dromApparently all of Wikia's domains where they host all their content have embedded trackers and third-party stuff.
15:35.44dromSince I've an addon that blocks connections from such domains, all Wikias are completely broken for me
15:39.57drom*rant*
15:43.42dromGuh, why is every social site full of hideous stuff?
15:58.43Charles_Murraydrom : Get in #Katar
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17:11.19dromHachiman http://i.imgur.com/3PwtwKx.webm
17:13.33dromhttp://i.imgur.com/36aRfdK.webm
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17:15.15GhelaeHello.
17:21.23Hachimandrom: I just realized that Beholders are kind of the like the Daleks of high fantasy
17:22.21dromWhat similarities could you find?
17:23.34dromI've read about Beholders in my 5e D&D MM. They are pretty much extremely xenophobic, paranoid and likes to have a form of power.
17:24.30HachimanUnconventional shape with unconventional means of motion, innate xenophobia for 'imperfect' life-forms (aka non-Beholders) alongside other Beholders, genderless, use lethal ray weaponry, have their eyestalks as one of their vulnerabilities, highly egotistical with a lust for domination
17:25.26drom"Aggressive, hateful and greedy, these aberrations dismiss all other creatures as lesser beings, toying with them or destroying them as they choose."
17:25.40dromHm. That pretty much sums up everything
17:26.19HachimanI am also kind of mad that Beholders are not in any of the bestiaries for Pathfinder
17:27.11dromI'm kind of mad that many of the creatures in Pathfinders aren't in D&D's MM or other third-party books.
17:27.21dromI liked that Dragonlsik
17:27.24dromDragonlisk
17:28.01dromDracolisk even
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17:30.04dromInterestingly, Hachiman. On the end of the MM, there was a page describing Zombies and how to fit other creatures as zombie variants. Including standard example of adopting an Orge and a Beholder
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17:31.13Hachimanspoon
17:31.21Hachimandrom: Zombie Beholders sound terrifying
17:31.21dromburn the spah
17:35.16dromHachiman: The sheet for the Beholder Zombie http://i.imgur.com/4P3JzFu.jpg
17:35.52Xhosmlfkjb
17:36.10dromPretty much a standard Beholder, expect less attractive and harder to kill.
17:37.37dromIncredibly dumb too
17:39.23HachimanWell it is a zombie
17:39.49HachimanI have seen some people talk about having their DMs pit them against Beholder / dragon hybrids
17:39.58dromFrom what I know, all the modifers are the same regardless species or kin
17:40.30dromUnless your DM/GM decided to be different as different
17:41.47dromI like going to r/dnd for stories and inspiration
17:42.19HachimanYeah
17:43.49XhoHm what to do
17:43.55Xhoinb4 dragon speaker
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17:44.13Wormy_hi
17:44.15Hachimandergon sperker
17:44.18HachimanHi Wormy_
17:44.20GhelaeHello.
17:44.36dromI liked the story of one DM/GM growing tired off their players complaining about deinfesting an innkeeper's cellar off rats. He gave up and told them to bring nothing else but their own dice(s), got to choose from a pool of LV 0 characters that are inherently meant to be NPCs.
17:45.47XhoHachiman: >4252 hours on Spore                   what exactly are you doing
17:46.34dromTo make the story short, the players did 3 games trying to deinfest the cellar, only to die in the first one and the rat population grow. The second they let out the rats and died again. The final attempt, the town's population is wiped out.
17:46.50HachimanXho: I leave it idle while open
17:47.02Xhou terrible person
17:47.47dromHachiman: Computers have humane rights too! This is an unacceptable act of torture!
17:51.56dromHachiman: "Tuned embedding chance from 45% to 15%. Olympian strength throwing competition over, now you don't always have to run around with throw mode on."
17:52.12Hachimanhur
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17:52.38MonetHello
17:52.40HachimanHi Imp, Monet
17:52.53GhelaeHello.
17:53.07MonetI found this > "In Star Wars: The Old Republic, there's a background conversation about the zoo animals breaking out of their cages during the ongoing civil war. The father was scared, the daughter loved it because she got to pet all the animals, including the 3-meter long carnivorous feline Nexu."
17:54.22MonetI jsut have this image of a nine-year-old girl calling the Nexu something like "Miss Happy" while trying to approach it.
17:55.21MonetOr just shouting "Kitty!"
17:55.57dromHachiman: "Tay (as Bloody Bone Jones) is jamming his thumbs into his eye sockets! It looks like he's trying to commit suicide."
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17:56.23dromIt is like he has witnessed too much of "nope"-material
17:56.47Hachimanolol
17:58.00dino82_hellowz
17:58.05GhelaeHello.
17:58.18Vincent20100drom: New favourite song of the moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ
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17:58.41DrodoEmpireBack
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17:59.42DrodoEmpireHi
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18:00.16Wormy_Ghelae:  With quasiparticles, as you know you can get certain kinds displaying behaviour like fundamental particles.  Do you know if such quasiparticles are studied to model the behaviour of more fundamental particles, per "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics"?  Obviously, not a means of direct study.
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18:01.27GhelaeNot exactly, although the fact that QFT can be used for both particle and condensed-matter physics does mean there are analogies between them.
18:01.53GhelaeThe best-known examples are a) the Higgs mechanism being analogous to superconductivity, and b) topological defects.
18:02.36OluapPlayerXho: http://i.imgur.com/bj9KSu3.jpg WORK ON DRAGON SPEAKER
18:02.53Xhooh no
18:03.00Wormy_I see, so if there is any universality, it is not the features but the analagous principles of those mechanisms
18:04.48GhelaeBoth on a fundamental and an emergent level, you can have the phenomena of scalar/spinor/vector fields, with quantised excitations, and wave equations describing their motion.
18:06.00GhelaeSo if that's what you mean, then yes.
18:06.22Wormy_Yes, indeed
18:07.59Wormy_Watching the MinutePhysics video on quasiparticles made me think of the use of emergent simulation in macroscale simulations, achievable with quite general physics engines
18:10.37GhelaeSounds reasonable enough. For example, if you want to calculate the heat capacity of a crystal, you don't deal with each atom individually, you treat it as a gas of phonons.
18:13.42Wormy_I'm also interested in what it tell us about nature's laws.  Some things seem to be self-similar on scales of time/energy/information, others like natural selection or computability are more specific
18:17.35GhelaeThe similarities on these scales are mostlly due to the fact that things can be described with differential equations - physical quantities don't directly affect other quantities, but instead affect their rate of change - and without making them too complicated, differential equations generally result in the same sorts of phenomena.
18:18.20GhelaeThen statistical mechanics brings in further complexity. Then you need to include things like computation and natural selection to describe even more complex systems.
18:23.59dromI guess I am the only one who is using Privacy Badger?
18:31.54dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/U344g1L.png
18:32.22Hachimanolol
18:33.11ImpyDroidCharles_Bot Monet: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/69/Jacqueline_Delacroix.png/revision/latest?cb=20160201124814 Human character for the Shattering and probably the Golden Age stories
18:33.45MonetRobo-eye-sorts-lens lady.
18:34.02dromImpyDroid: Never knew she was going to be in those.
18:34.11MonetWait...is she wearing a corset?
18:34.24ImpyDroidYis
18:35.02Xhofrancais
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18:37.09MonetWas going to say I thought corsets went out of style outside the bedroom but apparently today's trend is probably lacking in metal or whale-bone.
18:37.34dromHachiman: Cargo on Low-RP SS13 servers. http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20130717.png
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18:47.19Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/17/HezKalka2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160201184637 demon neigh took vitamins
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18:47.54ZF101Hello all.
18:48.23DrodoEmpireHi
18:48.37AndroImpXho: Gainshorse
18:52.09MonetHis waist though
18:53.49MonetThough I suppose when you're a demigod demon horse, muscle mass doesn't really matter apart from initmidation.
18:55.00MonetThat and I suppose Mahanayan fat could be quite firm as somewhere like Mahanaya is painfully hot.
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19:02.42HachimanOluapPlayer: /fit/ horse
19:02.44Hachimanhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/17/HezKalka2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160201184637
19:02.57OluapPlayerur not xho
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19:04.06XhoIs there a list of what fonts this wiki supports anywhere
19:05.13dino82_fonts?
19:05.25Xhoaye
19:05.41DrodoEmpireNo but I think it supports the "big" ones anyway
19:05.44TechnobliteratorAs a rule of thumb, any font that you can find in Word, you can probably use on the wiki. However, if you want a specific font that's not on the wiki, you can upload it and I can add it as a supported font.
19:06.01DrodoEmpire^ That's a much better answer
19:06.54HachimanI only ever see one font on the wiki
19:07.16DrodoEmpireYeah but there're more available if you're some sort of coding wizard
19:07.18TechnobliteratorIf you've ever been on my user page, or my big pages, you can see the "Sporum" font which I use
19:07.31TechnobliteratorWe also used to have Jokerman font on the Loron History page
19:07.44Technobliteratorand, well, you don't need to be a "wizard" to know how to use different fonts, Drodo
19:07.45Technobliterator: |
19:08.00DrodoEmpireI know I know XD
19:10.30dromKeep in mind that not all fonts you can find on Word is available to all kind of operating system
19:10.52dromI've once tried looking for Comic Sans on Mac, only to find it under an other name after googling for it
19:10.58TechnobliteratorThe vast majority you probably can
19:11.57dromBesides that, there are "Sporedum" and few other fonts used uniquely
19:12.26Monethttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nasa-s-new-planetary-defense-office-gets-to-work-protecting-earth/ coem at us aliens!
19:12.28MonetWell, asteroids lol.
19:13.36TechnobliteratorWoohoo, someone sets out to prolong the life of a species long overdue extinction, go us~
19:14.36ImperiosTechnobliterator: You just began acting like an otherkin
19:14.52Technobliteratorhow in the hell
19:14.55Technobliteratoris that anything like otherkin
19:15.02MonetAnti-human.
19:15.17ImperiosAlso, there are many species far older than humans
19:15.22ImperiosWe're not particularily unique here
19:15.24ImperiosCockroaches
19:15.26ImperiosVirii
19:15.28ImperiosSharks
19:15.34ImperiosMoss
19:15.35ImperiosLichen
19:16.11dromI don't like Humans anyway
19:16.14TechnobliteratorAnti-human, but how is that specifically an otherkin quality? ?__?
19:16.16ImperiosCrocodiles
19:16.26ImperiosNot specifically but otherkin act a lot like that hur
19:16.35DrodoEmpireYou're right, not *necessarily* otherkin. Just sorta dumb in genera;
19:16.38DrodoEmpire*general
19:16.41MonetImpy's right. One possible trait of being an otherkin is not wanting ot be human.
19:17.31MonetThough as I understand it, the general idea that humans are "overdue" extinction possibly dates fro mafter WWII.
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19:17.40OluapPlayerFUCK
19:18.18OluapPlayerXho: Did you get my message
19:18.25XhoDoesn't look like it
19:18.33OluapPlayerKCUF
19:18.42dino82_an unexpected encounter in the Endless SpacE: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lost_in_Space
19:18.44OluapPlayerI asked if we could do ebul axis stuff
19:19.30MonetI'm of the belief that if there is a Type III civiliation out there, I doubt they'd be benevolent enough to be "above" mass murder on a planetary scale.
19:19.47XhoMan I really fucked up this template
19:19.47MonetBut its all perspective
19:21.03CyrannianAye take a look at Lost in Space
19:22.45TechnobliteratorI never said I didn't want to be human, I just said I hated my species
19:22.47Technobliterator:)
19:23.03dromTechnobliterator: You are officially my soulmate
19:23.05DrodoEmpireWhich is still dumb
19:23.07DrodoEmpire<.<
19:23.26MonetTechnoblierator: That was possibly a misunderstanding on my part
19:23.29ZF101drom I thought we where destined to be together. D=
19:23.45DrodoEmpireBecause for all of humanity's flaws, I must say our antics make for *riveting* history
19:23.47dromExcept I'm more to the otherkin way.
19:24.02MonetDrodoEmpire: Nobody is perfect.
19:24.05dromThat's why history is important to learn, everyone.
19:24.14DrodoEmpireIndeed
19:24.16dromDon't do the same fukken mistake again.
19:25.14ZF101dino82 Cyrannian Excellent work. Can't wait to see more.
19:25.34HachimanXho: axis evil pls
19:25.45dromZF101: What I said was not for real. But it's a part of my opinion.
19:27.11XhoIf you want
19:27.14OluapPlayerHachiman: ur not in this
19:27.19HachimanAw
19:27.20OluapPlayerBut yes, don't ignore me you shit hur
19:27.36XhoOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg/Dominion added Mak to this
19:27.42dromMonet DrodoEmpire: I don't know if it is fairly relatable to the subject. But. Teenager. Brains.
19:27.49OluapPlayer|post = zzzzzzzzzz
19:28.16XhoMonet: What's Maleus' rank in the Dominion
19:28.45MonetXho: He was a commander wasn't he?
19:28.53OluapPlayerGuy With Anger Issues Nº #infinite
19:29.13MonetI thin kwe made him on par with the likes of Maknagarious
19:29.19dino82_@ZF: Thanks :D
19:29.46HachimanI doubt he would be on par with Maknagrius considering he commands an entire fucking race
19:29.58HachimanAnd Maleus is a single individual
19:30.12MonetSInce he's the big boss guy of the DOminion Draconis.
19:30.19dromTechnobliterator: I like this style more. http://i.imgur.com/xhsO48o.png
19:31.16OluapPlayerMaknagrius is the big boss guy of the Dominion Borealis
19:31.38MonetOKay so maybe not *completely* on par.
19:31.53Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg/Dominion Added Maleus
19:31.57MonetBut pretty sure Maleus was listed as a commander.
19:34.33Hachiman>Lord-Padre
19:34.50ImperiosYes that
19:35.01HachimanBig daddy Maknagrius
19:35.03OluapPlayerwut u complaining about
19:35.16OluapPlayerPadre as in Priest
19:35.23XhoMaknagrius - go fuk urself cabron
19:35.26Imperios^That is what I thought
19:35.34ImperiosLatin American CAtholic priest
19:35.35HachimanYeah I know, thought it was a cool title
19:35.38ImperiosNow I imagine him speaking with a heavy Spanish accent
19:35.47OluapPlayerThe Kondrakar are a theocracy, Maknagrius is essentially the pope
19:35.48ImperiosOr Portuguese
19:36.22HachimanMaknagrius - hez is mah compadre
19:37.11OluapPlayerI don't know Maknagrius's relations with the rest of the Dominion leaders
19:37.15OluapPlayerHe gets along with Arrtkar at leas
19:37.16OluapPlayert
19:37.31MonetGiven Maleus' history I guess lord-commander makes sense
19:37.36HachimanI would expect birds and snakes not to get along hur
19:37.46OluapPlayerNeither of them are a bird
19:38.00OluapPlayerArrtkar is more like an insectoid reptilian
19:38.18MonetArrtkar - Tweet         Maknagarius - Wot u on about
19:38.40OluapPlayerbug-lizards dunt tweet
19:38.50OluapPlayerrather dey go EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
19:39.10MonetWhat about dinosaurs?
19:39.33XhoMaknagrius and Hez are probably in communication
19:39.42XhoSince Hez is the leader he'd want to make sure everything is in order
19:39.47ImperiosOluapPlayer: Ohgod I just had a brilliant but probably stupid idea
19:40.03MonetWait...Aren't Kicath sort-of bug lizards given they have a carapace-like skin?
19:40.19ImperiosThe Kondrakar building a giant, Cristo Redentor-like statue of Maknagrius on their planet with his arms opened wide
19:40.34ImperiosExcept it is used as a sacrifical altar
19:40.40MonetMaknagrius - A life-size statue!
19:41.03OluapPlayerThey don't worship him though
19:41.08OluapPlayerThey worship a Xhodocto Eye
19:42.53XhoMonet: Eh kind
19:42.54Xhokinda
19:42.54HachimanFunny that we are talking about this because I am eating chili con carne for dinner
19:43.15XhoMaknagrius - cookin' chill          ingredients: borealis galaxy
19:43.20Xhochilli
19:43.27XhoMan I'm missing vowels everywhere
19:43.37HachimanYou also added an additional constonant
19:43.43MonetThe Eight Eyes wouldn't be much of a council if they didn't talk to each other.
19:44.49XhoI suck at words today
19:46.13OluapPlayertitanFUCK
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19:58.06DrodoEmpireHi
19:58.18Monethello
19:58.23Cuttlefishhi
20:06.25dino82_bye bye
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20:10.06WormydroidHi
20:14.01GhelHello.
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20:26.50Xhohttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/112/480/OpoQQ.jpg Rage Face: Memes of Cringe Days Past
20:28.16XhoFor some reason that one still amuses me
20:30.22MonetI keep thinking that's Robert DOwney Jr.
20:30.39Wormydroid"Does anything have points"  "Euclidean Geometry has pointsAre you calling Euclid a liar?"
20:31.48XhoCthulhu - yes
20:32.23MonetI think the thing I liked most about the projects of Cristopher Wren was he wanted to make central London a monument to Euclidean geometry.
20:33.50WormydroidOn the inverse, Escher's non-Euclidean art is something to be seen
20:37.02MonetAlthough I will admit there's probably some ego going on as Wren's plan was to have the city radiate form St. Paul's Cathedreal - what he considered his finest work.
20:39.29MonetOh wait I read his plan wrong
20:39.42WormydroidWhen was this?
20:40.34MonetWren was considered as the architect of a "nwe London" after the great fire.
20:40.44WormydroidIn the olden days Euclidean Geometry was seen as set in stone by God
20:42.09WormydroidTo know mathematical certainty, was to be closer to the divine
20:43.11MonetHis proposed plans for the city adopted but he did contribute to the cityp lanning of the new London
20:43.59dromXho: "r u fr reel?"
20:44.00Monethttp://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wren1.jpg I can see your point though
20:44.10MonetThose are some pretty rtraight roads
20:50.35Monet"Since the early years of the 17th century it was not unusual for the well-educated gentleman, (virtuosi), to take up architecture as a gentlemanly activity; a pursuit widely accepted as a branch of applied mathematics."
20:51.46MonetI bet Mr. Wren didn't stay up in his studio until 3am every night on his drawing board sustainig himself on nothing but coffee, Chinese takeaways and pizza.
20:56.10WormydroidYet their passions were high to allow these projects to fruit.
20:56.49WormydroidIntellectuals centuries ago were often polymaths, a rare breed today.
20:57.35MonetMy Architectuer course lead describes Architecture as a polymath's pursuit by virtue of everytihng that is needed.
20:57.37WormydroidBut it is a great mindspace to converge and synthesise a broad range of disciplines
20:58.23MonetYeah
20:58.55WormydroidSome modern day polymaths I would think are Von Neumann (if we include early 20th century)
20:58.56Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1098174_952168471541422_1714470160870818438_n.jpg?oh=d7f15bde4995a8e35acf9fc5a6309a0b&oe=57339806 (Semi NSFW) Hachiman:
20:59.06WormydroidAnd Douglas Hofstadter today
20:59.07XhoHachi in a nutshell
20:59.11Hachimanolol
21:01.19WormydroidHofstadter's books blind you with a menagerie of logic, mathematical philosophy, AI research, physics, music, visual srtvlike that of Escher, molecular biology, linguistics, translation, psychology, and even Zen koans
21:02.36WormydroidConstructed into a strange loop
21:03.04WormydroidIn which he opens questions about cognition
21:03.20Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/10639604_947445338680402_7739465868816313306_n.jpg?oh=47f987eb59a4a74883043c393e11bafe&oe=5731F86A
21:03.49WormydroidIt is like designing a mental architecture
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21:07.30WormydroidOther polymaths must exist but he is the only one I can immediately think of
21:12.03WormydroidAlright there is a good list, Stephen Wolfram, James Lovelock, Brian May...
21:14.18WormydroidMaybe Freeman Dyson
21:14.23HachimanBrian May
21:14.27HachimanAs in the guitarist of Queen
21:14.31Xhoyup
21:14.37HachimanJesus
21:16.28WormydroidThing is, to be a true polymath, you neef to be not just accomplished in related fields, but far flung ones like music or architecture or what have you
21:19.32Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Darkest_Before_Dawn#Return_to_Akharavzund Demons and shit
21:20.22OluapPlayeritt: demons vs demons
21:20.26OluapPlayerand xacutus
21:23.14WormydroidHachiman Brian May is also an astrophyscist, TV presenter, photographer and animal welfare activist, and plans to be a standing member of Parliament
21:27.11HachimanPretty nice chapter that, I liked it
21:27.21HachimanWatching Tibias and Xacutus banter is fun
21:27.28HachimanWormydroid: Pretty impressive feats for him
21:29.56DrodoEmpireWormy: Standing member of parliament? You mean he doesn't even get to have a chair?
21:35.48Xhoterrible
21:37.07WormydroidHur
21:50.46Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/81/Clovis_Borgeau_Delacroix.png/revision/latest?cb=20160201215024 BEHOLD, BAGUETTES ARE FINALLY GIVEN A SPORE FORM
21:51.14Hachiman>clovis
21:51.17Hachimandats a girl name
21:51.26ImperiosBlame Charles
21:52.00Imperioshttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Clovis Wiktionary disagrees too
21:57.59OluapPlayerur humie a ghey
21:58.03ImperiosHe's French
21:58.09ImperiosSo yes
22:00.19Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Intercepted_Channel DUN DUN DUJN
22:00.28XhoThought I might as well use it
22:01.03XhoHell it looks good, that template
22:01.48Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12670071_1043086615754838_7514159494301088783_n.jpg?oh=532fc7e6672efc8abe44d1b08fe517ad&oe=572C265D Had this pop up and I thought you lot might find it amusing
22:02.30OluapPlayerlel
22:02.30OluapPlayerand fuk off horse
22:02.37XhoHez - nay
22:03.13ImperiosXho: Iron Man 3
22:03.28Xhowat
22:06.24ImperiosReminded me of Mandarin's speech from this movie
22:06.34XhoOh right
22:06.45XhoWell they're both psychotic terrorists
22:07.08dromTechnobliterator: I'm getting all more convinced to migrate to an other host, halp
22:07.31MonetExcept one was a down-on-his-luck actor.
22:07.33Technobliteratorwat
22:08.38ImperiosWouldn't call him a terrorist though
22:08.41ImperiosI mean he has a country
22:08.51ImperiosPeople with countries aren't really terrorists
22:08.58XhoHez - and a couple of dimensions but still
22:09.07dromTechnobliterator: Migrate to an other Wiki host
22:09.14Technobliteratorwhy would you do that
22:09.34MonetImperios: Rebels to a local regime can still be terrorists
22:10.28ImperiosI mean if you have a stable controlled territory, a sort of government, and some semblance of order you are no longer a terrorist group, you're a militia controlling territory committing war crimes
22:10.47ImperiosO in Hez's case a country comitting war crimes
22:10.51dromTechnobliterator: Due to Wikia doing something with their resource servers which triggered a red alarm for one of my addons, every Wikia page looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/SHQUjC3.png
22:11.22dromThis started yesterday and I have used the addon for two months now
22:11.25TechnobliteratorWhich addon?
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22:28.39OpelSpeedsterWill there actually be an update to featured fiction this month?
22:28.53Xholol dont get ur hopes up
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22:57.48dromHachiman: Be scientist during a normal traitor round. Doing some xenobiology shit; feed some smiles monkeys and split them and process them into extracts
22:58.33dromI get a metal slime offspring and repeat the process with it again until the shuttle is docked with the station and I shove in one of the metal slimes in a locker and bring it to the shuttle.
22:59.06dromSome greytard opened it despite my protests, hilarity ensued as it fested on everyone
22:59.35Hachimanolol
22:59.41dromWhile throwing out the cropse of a clown that got inside the shuttle, a bartender pushes me off the shuttle while in transit
22:59.57dromSo I died a griff death
23:03.09WormydroidIs this a game just with very large setvof features, or is the gameplay emergent and customised by players?
23:03.20WormydroidYou do come away with some stories
23:03.40dromWormydroid: The gameplay and story is made up by the players
23:03.57WormydroidI see, it is a great approach really
23:04.25dromLike Minecraft, griefers and OOC-shitlers are common
23:04.53WormydroidThe advantage of open software abd games is that they allow mavericks to think of new ways of using them
23:05.36dromThe second problem is the fact the game is built on a really really shitty engine
23:05.49dromMany have done remakes of it on other engines, and all failed
23:06.48WormydroidI met some geologists who use Minecraft to generate geological maps of the British Isles.  They claim it is more stable than thebexisting geocad tools and much smaller in data size.  Very smart really
23:07.09DrodoEmpireOh neat
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23:08.11dromSounds really nice
23:08.48WormydroidBlender is quite popular amongst the Sci vis community for it is open source and easy to script.  While Maya is, it obviously is expensive so puts off more 'mavericks' from contributing
23:09.49dromHachiman: The round before that I was playing as the RD, a cult was started in my department. Surprise, surprise I became the first victim to be converted. We managed to rack up 20 convertions out of the 70-manned crew. Including the whole of the security except a lone officer and a detective
23:10.02WormydroidScivis - Science Visualisation
23:10.14HachimanJesus
23:11.04dromI was however killed before we could summon Nar'Sie or sarifice the Captain. By a nun gimmick to a Chaplain who was killed really fast, but managed to throw a holy water grenade that killed like 5-7 of us and few innocents in the process of convertion.
23:11.45HachimanOh wow
23:11.49HachimanThat is impressive
23:12.06dromWe were strong and many, but however one of us were really dumb and broke into the Atmospherics, killing all the two techinians there before releasing plasme all over the station.
23:12.45dromSo greytards with lit fags ran into the plasma and ensued a station-wide fire. Killing many of the crew and inclusive the cult. Leaving only three alive, one of them a borg.
23:13.09dromAnd yes, cultists can convert cyborgs because they are "living" beings, plus the fact they have a brain.
23:13.21HachimanOh wow
23:13.26HachimanI did not know that
23:13.41dromSo we converted two security borgs to my knowledge
23:13.42WormydroidAssimilaception
23:14.05dromStunrods and zipties everywhere
23:14.22Charles_MurrayCurrently working on the UGA, if anyone wants to weigh in: https://titanpad.com/jUX3bfg3Gr
23:14.41HachimanAt that point Nar'Sie did not even need to be summoned
23:14.55dromHachiman: You need 9 alive cultists
23:15.04dromPresent around a bigger rune circle
23:15.13dromBut only 3-4 were alive
23:15.34dromAll thanks to the nun gimmick (good job though) and the retarded cultist
23:16.20HachimanBased nun
23:21.11TechnobliteratorXho, replied on UDB
23:21.23dromSomehow, SS13 feels like D&D-like game without the dices and turn system. Because there is sci-fi fantasy and being a game centered on player interacting with other players, creating many stories
23:21.42dromTechnobliterator: Privacy Badger
23:21.49Technobliterator?
23:22.59dromPrivacy Badger is the name of the addon that breaks all Wikia sites. Allegedly Wikia has installed software on their resource hosting servers to track anyone who use them.
23:23.25dromLoad a image from any of those, aaaand you are being tracked
23:24.07MonetSo it's a cookie didger.
23:24.11dromBut it isn't the case if you are looking directly on a file.
23:24.13Monetdodger*
23:25.59dromMonet: It blocks any third-party tracking, that means any tracker that is loaded from an other domain than the site/domain you are visiting.
23:26.52dromI mean, look at this shit. http://i.imgur.com/SFIvShl.png
23:26.59dromI can assure you that those aren't my settings.
23:27.10XhoFre'kloar and Hez having a discussion
23:27.13XhoOnly on the UDB
23:28.27dromMonet Technobliterator: I think it is probably an overreaction, but I'm keeping my guard up and I've reported the broken site to the developers.
23:28.48TechnobliteratorUse Special:Contact and see if it works
23:28.55TechnobliteratorThis is definitely not worth switching host, though
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23:31.29dromI have no trust in Wikia whatsoever
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23:42.31TechnobliteratorWell, I do
23:42.53TechnobliteratorI am not unbiased, but I think we are much better off with them than without
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23:52.40Wormydroid_Hi
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