00:03.03 | AdmiralPanda | If there are two arctic bears, are they bipolar? |
00:03.16 | drom|semi | Wormy_: I posted that already before you |
00:03.24 | drom|semi | AdmiralPanda: Get out |
00:03.36 | AdmiralPanda | request denied :) |
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01:12.53 | Wormy_ | drom|semi: I reposted it so people would know what I was talking about |
01:14.34 | drom|semi | Fair enough |
01:21.33 | Wormy_ | My expectation is that qualia are likely to arise from physicality. If so, we will probably be able to change the engineering of our brains in principle, though that will mean altering the individual. Engineering qualia thus become a problem of learning how. |
01:23.22 | Wormy_ | There's evidence the perception of colour has changed in history too, but it's difficult to say for certain |
01:27.06 | Wormy_ | The Himba people in Namibia have no word for blue and also struggle to distinguish it from green. |
01:30.04 | DrodoEmpire | I've heard a lot about the history of colour |
01:30.14 | DrodoEmpire | Many cultures throw blue and green into the same colour |
01:30.24 | DrodoEmpire | Having the blue and green bits as opposite ends of a spectrum |
01:30.37 | DrodoEmpire | In fact blue as a colour is a very recent thing |
01:44.13 | Wormy_ | My mother can't see blue, but the options don't think she is colour-blind as far as the eye goes |
01:44.20 | Wormy_ | *opticians |
01:44.32 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
01:44.36 | Wormy_ | The sky looks grey to her |
01:44.36 | DrodoEmpire | That's very odd, then |
01:44.49 | DrodoEmpire | Does she consistently confuse it with a different colour? |
01:45.05 | DrodoEmpire | Actually, very stupid question |
01:45.06 | DrodoEmpire | my bad |
01:45.41 | Wormy_ | She knows what we mean by blue, but only sees it as grey, or purpely-grey |
01:45.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's weird... I presume she grew up in a culture and with a language that possesses the idea of "blue"? |
01:46.13 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
01:46.16 | DrodoEmpire | Odd indeed |
01:46.44 | Wormy_ | She is English, but as a child she had mild language difficulty. And language and colour perception are thought to be related in some way. |
01:46.52 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
01:47.23 | Wormy_ | she might be able to see very dark blues |
01:47.48 | Wormy_ | It seems unfortunate really, to see never know the blueness of the sky. |
01:48.21 | DrodoEmpire | hm. |
01:51.09 | Wormy_ | There is a way to trick yourself into seeing so-called impossible colours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color#Claimed_evidence_for_ability_to_see_impossible_colors_not_in_the_color_space |
01:51.42 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting... |
01:52.34 | Wormy_ | This video actually worked for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tA5Mcx92M |
01:52.42 | DrodoEmpire | Also, I've just watched a video that was quite interesting for me about scimitars |
01:52.48 | Wormy_ | the test doesn't strain the eye too uncomfortably |
01:54.02 | DrodoEmpire | Basically the idea was that scimitars, being essentially sabres, were highly curved, topheavy, and not ideal for the "classic" usage of a sword (hands on the grip, swings) but instead were used in a sort of "half-swording" method |
01:54.16 | DrodoEmpire | (This would be *dismounted* use of a scimitar) |
01:55.17 | DrodoEmpire | The method was basically one hand on the grip, but keeping the sword very close, almost against your chest, putting your free hand behind the sabre and pushing the flat back of it forward to strike |
01:55.58 | DrodoEmpire | You could use this method to do very close-range sawing motions and grappling, and it was good on the defense too |
01:56.23 | DrodoEmpire | It also bypassed the fact that otherwise, you need a *lot* of space to use a sword like that conventionally |
01:57.03 | DrodoEmpire | There isn't much evidence beyond an anecdote from a 70s attack in Lebanon (where a British platoon was assaulted by three men with scimitars using the above method, suffering seventeen wounded) |
01:57.19 | DrodoEmpire | But its otherwise an interesting idea |
01:59.31 | Wormy_ | indeed |
02:00.27 | DrodoEmpire | I tried one of tests... |
02:00.39 | DrodoEmpire | Didn't do too much for me, but I got a faint inkling of something anyway |
02:00.51 | DrodoEmpire | May've just been me staring at a screen too long >.< |
02:02.33 | DrodoEmpire | Also, a little side note but a channel name like "Top5Quantum" makes me think its gonna sell me gluten-free essential broccoli oils on the corner of the local Whole Foods. :p |
02:02.43 | DrodoEmpire | All the while telling me the evils of "MonSatan" |
02:05.46 | Wormy_ | maybe, but this is the 'official' test and it doesn't work for me having to be cross-eyed somewhat hurts https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Impossible_Colors%2C_Blue_and_Yellow%2C_for_3dTV.png |
02:06.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that test is awful |
02:06.47 | DrodoEmpire | And that was more of a joke, nothing on the actual quality of the test XD |
02:36.11 | Wormy_ | bye |
02:42.28 | DrodoEmpire | test |
02:54.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hello again |
03:46.56 | Zillafire101 | Hello. |
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11:38.55 | dino82_ | hi |
11:39.28 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
11:44.43 | dino82_ | how is allz doing? |
11:46.00 | Ghelae | Hello. |
11:47.24 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
11:52.15 | dino82_ | I am great as well, thanks! |
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12:03.56 | Wormy_ | Imperios, Liquid_Ink: Donald Trump with a Cockney accent https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=-cA0NM5RAY0 |
12:03.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
12:05.29 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:06.06 | Hachiman | So I have come to realize something |
12:07.07 | drom|semi | Hachiman: nukeops round |
12:07.15 | drom|semi | I'm one of the ops |
12:07.21 | Hachiman | Oh God |
12:07.24 | drom|semi | We managed to blow up the station within 10 mins |
12:07.56 | drom|semi | All because we did was kill a scientist who had the disk surgically embedded within him and blow the tele-communications up. |
12:08.05 | drom|semi | While the station plunged into an anarchy |
12:08.33 | drom|semi | Because the atmosphereics released plasma and lit it on fire |
12:08.45 | Hachiman | The universe is estimated to be 13.75 billion years old and red dwarf stars are estimated to have a lifespan between 1 and 10 trillion years; every red dwarf star currently in existence is still an infant while our sun is reaching its own middle ages |
12:08.47 | drom|semi | While the security arrested everyone they could see. |
12:10.10 | drom|semi | It wrecked once again the tele-communications and killed half of the station |
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12:32.08 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
12:58.10 | drom|semi | Hachiman: Playing as a RD is really ez in SS13 |
13:05.29 | Imperios | Hi |
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13:11.19 | Wormydroid | Hi |
13:11.34 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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13:23.12 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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14:17.46 | drom|semi | Hachiman: I like how in SS13 you both love and fear clowns |
14:17.54 | Hachiman | I hate clowns |
14:17.59 | Hachiman | Though people hate janitors more |
14:18.14 | drom|semi | Yeah. Janitors are among the worst. |
14:18.19 | drom|semi | The captain being the worst |
14:19.04 | drom|semi | Although I hate mimes and assistants |
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14:27.05 | Wormydroid | Hi |
14:34.24 | Monet | Hi |
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14:44.37 | OluapPlayer | spon |
14:44.37 | Xho | NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN |
14:44.57 | Xho | on |
14:58.52 | Wormydroid | Terry Wogan is dead |
14:59.15 | Xho | I saw |
14:59.20 | Monet | ...what? |
14:59.22 | Xho | EVERYONE'S DYING, STOP IT |
14:59.41 | Wormydroid | Monet it is a sad sad day |
14:59.50 | OluapPlayer | Who that |
15:00.07 | Monet | OluapPlayer: A very famous British TV personality |
15:00.26 | Monet | And radio |
15:00.40 | Wormydroid | British radio presenter and TV presenter/narrator |
15:01.16 | Wormydroid | We are used to hraring his voice daily |
15:07.35 | Xho | Hm what to do |
15:08.20 | Xho | Will Pudsey Bear ever fix his goddamn eye |
15:09.29 | OluapPlayer | Dragon Speaker dangit |
15:09.31 | OluapPlayer | or Eschaton |
15:10.00 | Hachiman | Pudsey Bear is a war veteran; he lost his eye when he was stationed in Africa on an outpost near a village and was the sole survivor of a defensive countermeasure against local warlords, having to participate in combat against child soldiers and their masters |
15:10.05 | Xho | pick one u |
15:10.48 | Hachiman | He takes part in charity in order to sooth the bloody memories of his war-torn past |
15:11.39 | OluapPlayer | escccchhhh den |
15:12.18 | Xho | Right lemme do that story I've been meaning to do |
15:34.51 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Alhazred can make his face disappear right |
15:34.58 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
15:40.56 | OluapPlayer | brb |
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15:46.46 | Wormydroid | Huh, so no more than 18 years ago when I moved to my town, there wete no more than 6 gebetic families |
15:46.59 | Wormydroid | Genetic |
15:47.14 | Xho | SO THE NORTH DOES INBREED I KNEW IT |
15:47.33 | OluapPlayer | Chrome got filled with malware |
15:47.33 | Wormydroid | #Derybyshire ladies and gentlemen |
15:47.41 | OluapPlayer | Now I switched to Firefox |
15:47.45 | Wormydroid | I know Edale still has only two |
15:47.48 | Xho | firefloof |
15:48.01 | Xho | Yeah Chrome is a CPU-guzzler anyway |
15:48.50 | drom|semi | My only beef with Firefox is it isn't stylish or good as Chrome at some aspects |
15:53.05 | Wormydroid | I've noticed that |
15:53.19 | Wormydroid | But my site is more stable on Firefawks |
15:55.48 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/mkhYFav.jpg |
15:56.46 | Hachiman | olol |
16:04.04 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12654551_1697801303765137_6672651552269958223_n.jpg?oh=f3ebf8057a4a7e573c426914108423d1&oe=57251A81 Rage faces but still |
16:05.27 | drom|semi | That, damn |
16:05.39 | OluapPlayer | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/072/443/e43.png NOOOO |
16:06.30 | Xho | lel |
16:06.44 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Darkest_Before_Dawn#The_Brother.27s_Return rite |
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16:07.52 | OluapPlayer | BROTHARRRRRR |
16:09.08 | Xho | Julianus is Hulk Hogan confirmed |
16:10.02 | Imperios | Xho: So it is south in the New World and the north in the Old World |
16:10.36 | Xho | dafuq u talkin about |
16:12.19 | OluapPlayer | Alhazred - ew he touched me |
16:12.33 | Xho | Alhazred - STILL NOT CLEAN STILL NOT CLEAN |
16:12.39 | Imperios | Xho: Incest |
16:12.56 | OluapPlayer | next section nao |
16:12.57 | Xho | Imperios: Oh right, no it's pretty much still old world everywhere except for London |
16:13.52 | OluapPlayer | We've not rp'd for half a month |
16:14.15 | Xho | https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 go do dis den |
16:14.26 | Xho | If we power through it this is the last section |
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16:14.59 | OluapPlayer | ~crush Cyrannian |
16:15.03 | infobot | ACTION crushes Cyrannian with a full height scsi disk |
16:15.09 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer |
16:15.09 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction |
16:15.56 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman Imperios: u rp |
16:16.27 | Hachiman | Bit sudden |
16:16.37 | OluapPlayer | stop fappin and do dis |
16:16.43 | Hachiman | ech |
16:16.45 | Hachiman | Fine |
16:17.18 | Hachiman | Gonna get nowhere by doing nothing anyway hur |
16:18.25 | OluapPlayer | git on the pad then |
16:19.38 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I was about to do my own Fog War thing |
16:19.52 | Imperios | Like I would not mind if it was not done in a chronological order |
16:19.55 | Imperios | But |
16:19.57 | Hachiman | We can do Fog War any time |
16:20.05 | Imperios | OH wait is that Fog War |
16:20.13 | Imperios | What are you doing rn |
16:20.27 | OluapPlayer | Fantasyverse |
16:20.30 | Imperios | Oh |
16:20.39 | Imperios | Sorry :7 |
16:20.48 | OluapPlayer | dur |
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16:30.08 | Wormydroid | Welcome back |
16:30.58 | Ghel | Hello. |
17:11.01 | Imperios | Xho: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany Jij |
17:11.02 | Imperios | Huh |
17:11.14 | Xho | why tho |
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17:20.10 | Monet | Xho: Possibly for sympathy |
17:20.21 | Wormydroid | Oops, accidently ignored nearly everyone after scratching something off my screen |
17:20.39 | OluapPlayer | dats rude |
17:20.44 | Monet | That and "migrant" seems to be the latest scapegoat group. |
17:21.09 | Wormydroid | A bit antisocial, yeah. |
17:22.28 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Human nature. |
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17:23.12 | Wormydroid | <PROTECTED> |
17:23.34 | OluapPlayer | I mean that to Wormy |
17:24.12 | Monet | Oh |
17:29.02 | Hachiman | FUCK OFF TITANPAD |
17:31.03 | OluapPlayer | titanFUCK |
17:31.13 | Xho | FAK OFFFFF |
17:32.09 | OluapPlayer | fek uff |
17:32.22 | Hachiman | I can't be doin' with this |
17:32.25 | Xho | Wow this Titanpad |
17:32.33 | Xho | Oh now I've disconnected |
17:32.34 | Xho | 0/10 |
17:32.41 | OluapPlayer | Titanpad went full retard, news at 11 |
17:33.27 | Hachiman | Gotta wonder if a monkey is the one handling Titanpad's servers |
17:33.57 | OluapPlayer | That would be funny, and Titanpad is not funny |
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17:34.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
17:35.14 | Ghel | Hello. |
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17:37.54 | Monet | Litening to Fred Astaire's "Putting on the Ritz" |
17:39.37 | Monet | I find it interesting how back i nthe day, wealthy families like the Rokefellers were of great public interest |
17:40.03 | OluapPlayer | Imp git back in the pad |
17:40.18 | Monet | WHo captured the public imagination as opposed to being looked at with immense revulsion |
17:43.38 | TekDroid | Monet: I suppose you can blame that on death of the American Dream and the shift of popular opinions towards greedy corporations |
17:44.07 | Wormydroid | Did the commoners/peasant folk do the same though? |
17:44.53 | Monet | TekDroid: Probably |
17:45.49 | TekDroid | Decades ago it was all about reaching for that wealth and the belief that anyone could reach it if they tried |
17:46.48 | Monet | Nowadays everyone grumbles over how wealthy these people are compared ot everyone else. |
17:46.49 | Wormydroid | Actually, yeah. That is why even Thatcher was popular amongst the working clasd |
17:47.48 | TekDroid | The economic optimism of past decades is dead to modern society |
17:48.25 | Wormydroid | To grumble about the existence of wealthy peope might be misdirected. But to grumble against unfair power they have is another story. |
17:48.42 | TekDroid | Corporate politics like funding pro-oil groups is also far more visible to the public. |
17:48.45 | Monet | They're a new-age aristocracy. |
17:48.58 | DrodoEmpire | Grumbling about the existence of the wealthy is utterly absurd, Wormy |
17:49.00 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
17:49.08 | DrodoEmpire | However Corporatism is indeed an issue |
17:49.17 | Wormydroid | That is what I said... |
17:49.35 | DrodoEmpire | I took a more certain stance on the matter |
17:49.57 | Wormydroid | However I feel no affection towards the snobby aristocracy of UK politics |
17:50.07 | Ghel | Drodo evidently does not get the ancient English art of understatement. |
17:50.30 | Monet | Looking at some statistics, sure the PM earns £147,000 a year, but it's peanuts comapred to a guy like Bill Gates. |
17:50.34 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps not Ghel |
17:50.35 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
17:50.39 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry |
17:51.11 | DrodoEmpire | Either way, corporatism is the end-result of underregulated or unregulated capitalism, which is otherwise a good system |
17:51.13 | Ghel | I *was* going to say "mild understatement" but thought better of it. |
17:51.52 | Monet | There are possibly two alternatives: raise the average wage of everyone else, or put ever more restrictions on the rich. |
17:52.09 | Monet | Both of those however, pose consequences. |
17:52.50 | DrodoEmpire | Right, raising the average wage would put things like the restaurant industry into dire straits |
17:53.13 | DrodoEmpire | And restrictions on the rich mean they may start to move their capital out of the country |
17:53.18 | DrodoEmpire | And their production and jobs |
17:53.31 | Wormydroid | Meh, too many people in the developed world rely on foodbanks |
17:53.31 | DrodoEmpire | Though this second issue could be mitigated by tariffs and increased protectionism |
17:53.35 | Monet | As fancy as those places are, a resturaunt is a highly volatile industry. |
17:53.53 | Wormydroid | I was shocked by qaint little town had one |
17:54.53 | Wormydroid | *my |
17:55.01 | Monet | Though I do wonder if demonising the rich causes its own problems |
17:55.26 | Monet | As Tek said, back in the 40s the Rockafellers were seen as peopel to aspire to: They encouraged the pursuit of social mobility. |
17:55.27 | DrodoEmpire | Personally I take more the side of taxing the wealthiest groups more so that more government-funded services can be provided, and preventing these rich corporation owners from taking their business and jobs elsewhere by raising tariffs |
17:55.45 | Wormydroid | Yeah |
17:55.49 | DrodoEmpire | So it becomes less profitable to use cheap unregualted foreign labour |
17:56.00 | DrodoEmpire | And provides more jobs at home, ideallt. |
17:56.02 | DrodoEmpire | *ideally |
17:56.53 | Monet | There was an interesting phenomenon in the Anno 2205 comunity recently |
17:57.04 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
17:57.11 | Wormydroid | It anmoys me to no end companies like Starbucks are tax free |
17:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:58.10 | Monet | Shortly after the game came out there was lots of complaint that the Global Market mechanic - where prices could supposedly be influenced by other players' activities - could easily be exploited, allowing higher-end products to be bought and shipped at a lower cost than they would have been if produced by the players. |
17:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
17:58.31 | Monet | So a lot of people ended up buying from the world market as opposed to producing the goods themselves. |
17:58.44 | DrodoEmpire | A bit like real life, then? |
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17:58.57 | DrodoEmpire | Clever mechanic actually |
17:58.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
17:59.03 | Cuttlefish | Hello |
17:59.18 | Monet | Then a week ago Blue Byte released a patch that fixed the World Market. And the prices for these goods *skyrocketed* |
17:59.44 | Wormydroid | http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/12/19/let-off-the-hook-corporations-allowed-to-avoid-billions-in-t |
18:00.24 | Monet | Some peopel actually went on the forums complaining the market was even *more* broken than before. |
18:01.50 | Monet | The thing that interested me was how popular this exploit was before the patch. |
18:02.24 | Monet | People complained, but a lot of peopel used it anyway to get massive cities for the most efficient expenditure. |
18:05.21 | Monet | Wormydroid: Ad even if they're not tax free, they'll set up regional headquarters in places with very lox corporate tax rates |
18:05.26 | Hachiman | The government should tax church |
18:07.39 | Monet | In principle, religions and charities are usually ecxempt from tax because they shouldn't eb working on profit motive. |
18:07.56 | Monet | But like every system ever devised, it's exploited. |
18:08.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: I'd agree but I'm not so sure. |
18:08.42 | DrodoEmpire | Call me naive but most churches around my own town are not "for profit" operations. ;p |
18:08.44 | DrodoEmpire | *:p |
18:08.59 | DrodoEmpire | In fact they do a lot of charitable work. Doesn't seem quite fair to tax them |
18:09.54 | Cuttlefish | If we're talking taxes, I think there should be a higher inheritance tax. Old money sucks. |
18:09.56 | Monet | Tithes were originally put in place as a way to ensure peopel would financially or materially support the establishment. |
18:10.59 | Cuttlefish | Big companies are like financial monarchies. |
18:11.12 | DrodoEmpire | Right, I agree |
18:11.21 | DrodoEmpire | Which is why there should be stronger regulation |
18:11.33 | Monet | Regulation is often better than outright forbiddance. |
18:12.08 | Cuttlefish | Well I wouldn't for for 100%. I see no issue with getting the family estate, just not the millions in oil revenue. |
18:12.34 | DrodoEmpire | I'd also agree with inheritance, though what about those poorer families who have little to inherit anyway? Perhaps there could be some way to split the tax up by wealth or value of inheritance anyhow |
18:13.05 | Monet | Its not a cut-and-dry solution |
18:13.14 | DrodoEmpire | Nothing really is, no |
18:14.43 | Cuttlefish | Personally I think the government should handle resource industry like steel and oil. |
18:15.00 | Monet | China already does that. |
18:15.34 | Monet | And China's environmental record is ...stellar. :p |
18:15.56 | Cuttlefish | The US is not better |
18:16.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it is |
18:16.10 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
18:16.16 | DrodoEmpire | Its *much* better |
18:16.36 | Cuttlefish | I mean with like oil spills and stuff. |
18:16.46 | Monet | Also the thing about state-owned industry is it probably won't go down very well in the West. |
18:16.57 | DrodoEmpire | The say "not better when it comes to oil spills" next time |
18:17.26 | DrodoEmpire | http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/12/06/beijing-smog-alert.jpg - NY doesn't look like this, for example. |
18:17.30 | DrodoEmpire | Beijing does |
18:17.32 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
18:17.39 | Cuttlefish | I personally think the resources are the property of the state that owns the territory. |
18:18.27 | DrodoEmpire | Yes... Originally. I see no issue with private people then coming to own it, or to purchase the property to start an operation to use said resources |
18:18.29 | Monet | Thing is there is a lot of international trade regarding material |
18:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | And to own it themselves |
18:19.35 | Monet | Getting territorial about wh oowns what might not be the best idea in the long-term. |
18:20.01 | DrodoEmpire | No, but sovereign land is sovereign land |
18:20.16 | Cuttlefish | I really want us to start using hydrogen fuel already. |
18:20.40 | DrodoEmpire | I don't necessarily agree that a *country* can use its state-run company to extract another nation's resources |
18:21.07 | DrodoEmpire | And if a foreign company wants to do it they should recieve tariffs and taxes that are appropriate |
18:21.14 | DrodoEmpire | *foreign private company |
18:22.08 | Monet | Cuttlefish: Even if we do start using hudrogen fuel say next week, there's the issue that it'll be cheaper to use alternative for a few years at first. |
18:25.29 | Cuttlefish | I'm kinda interested to see how the whole Antarctica thing turns out. That treaty is a mess. |
18:26.20 | Monet | There's stil la substantial coal and natural gas industry |
18:28.20 | Monet | Quick widespread adoption of hydrogen power is not going to come without job losses or financial issues |
18:28.25 | Cuttlefish | I think international waters have allot of potential. I guess the main problem is who gets it when nobody owns it. |
18:29.04 | Cuttlefish | I don't think anything can have a quick adoption. Even now, most countries still use gas lamps. |
18:29.15 | Cuttlefish | Not even joking. They use lamps |
18:29.20 | Cuttlefish | with gas |
18:30.49 | DrodoEmpire | What, like a kerosene lamp? |
18:30.59 | DrodoEmpire | Those are still around basically everywhere. ;p |
18:31.01 | DrodoEmpire | *:p |
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18:31.18 | DrodoEmpire | Not as common mind you but they're not *obsolete*. They light things just fine |
18:31.23 | Cuttlefish | I never see those in places with electricity |
18:31.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ever have the power cut out? |
18:32.30 | Cuttlefish | Well mostly we have flashlights. |
18:32.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hi dino |
18:32.34 | OfficerJackal | You do what you gotta do I guess, I mean kerosene lamps are just fine really, just don't drop it or anything. :/ That being said, I don't think I have a kerosene lamp in my house, although I'd imagine they would be great for areas with unreliable electricity/limited access to batteries. |
18:32.43 | dino82_ | hello all |
18:32.46 | dino82_ | how is alz doing :D |
18:32.54 | OpelSpeedster | I'm bored to hell. |
18:33.11 | DrodoEmpire | Same, but there's a few downstairs anyway |
18:33.20 | DrodoEmpire | *downstairs where I live that is |
18:33.45 | Cuttlefish | Well now I'm thinking about american housing again. |
18:33.47 | DrodoEmpire | Either way, its not all that incredible to still have gas lamps about |
18:33.55 | Cuttlefish | Anyone else hate how big houses are |
18:34.10 | Cuttlefish | People have entire rooms just for eating on holidays |
18:34.15 | DrodoEmpire | They aren't used as often anymore of course but they still exist in the first world |
18:34.18 | Hachiman | Gas lamps last longer than flashlights and light rooms and hallways more efficiently |
18:34.26 | Monet | Cuttlefish: I live in the country rated as having the smallest average house size in the Western developed world. |
18:34.33 | Hachiman | I would like to see a flashlight last for over six months |
18:34.47 | Hachiman | You would need to spend so much on batteries |
18:34.53 | DrodoEmpire | I like bigger houses honestly. :p |
18:34.58 | Monet | I can't say anything on "how big houses are" |
18:35.05 | OfficerJackal | Hachiman: Yeah, that too. Batteries are expensive. |
18:35.13 | Cuttlefish | I hate the concept of the suburbs |
18:35.17 | Hachiman | And more difficult to transport |
18:35.21 | Cuttlefish | All that wasted space upsets me |
18:35.26 | Hachiman | And more difficult to find when it counts |
18:35.44 | Cuttlefish | Who even uses a front lawn? Why do they need those? |
18:35.55 | DrodoEmpire | I appreciate the relative peacefulness of the suburbs or rural areas. I like going to cities for a *bit* but eventually I get sick of it and want to go back |
18:35.56 | Monet | Cuttlefish: You might like it in England then...maybe |
18:36.28 | OfficerJackal | I don't really mind what people do with their houses or what their houses are like, it's their house, let them do what they want. |
18:36.29 | DrodoEmpire | Cuttlefish: Because they look nice and the average person isn't as obsessed with efficiency as you? :p |
18:36.44 | Cuttlefish | Urban planning exists for a reason |
18:36.50 | OfficerJackal | Well, house plus property that went along with it. |
18:36.53 | DrodoEmpire | I'd go crazy if everybody was forced to live in tiny apartments |
18:37.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I get it. What I also get is if there's the ability to spread out I'd much prefer that |
18:37.30 | DrodoEmpire | More open and peaceful, if not "logical". :p |
18:37.34 | Monet | Whe nI see LA's suburbs I can somewhat understand Cuttlefish's point http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2364698804_9fd150d561_b.jpg |
18:37.40 | Cuttlefish | All the american houses are far apart like "don't touch me i'll get house cooties" |
18:37.51 | DrodoEmpire | Of course I come from a place which is *very* rural |
18:38.32 | DrodoEmpire | The USA and Canada are *huge* places. People have the luxury of spreading out that Europe doesn't have |
18:38.44 | DrodoEmpire | Find it silly or absurd, I can appreciate it |
18:38.49 | Cuttlefish | Wasting land isn't a luxury it's just stupid |
18:39.00 | Monet | Cuttlefish: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2052/1587819531_49e9ddcb48.jpg |
18:39.13 | DrodoEmpire | "Wasting" land? Would you rather people live in the Kowloon walled city then? |
18:39.14 | Cuttlefish | see that's how you make a neighborhood |
18:39.27 | Cuttlefish | what;s a kowloon? |
18:39.53 | OfficerJackal | What would you rather everyone do then? Not have a lawn or backyard for their houses? Live in apartments? I mean really, houses use up space. |
18:39.56 | DrodoEmpire | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City - Its a *place*, and its your thinking taken to its ultimate extreme |
18:40.55 | DrodoEmpire | I have more concerns then "efficency" in mind as every normal human being does when it comes to a place to live. American houses take up space, yes, but their comfortable places to live for those who can afford them |
18:41.06 | DrodoEmpire | *North American houses |
18:41.19 | Cuttlefish | Nobody can afford them |
18:41.24 | Imperios | I shall be honest, I am envious of American houses |
18:41.33 | Imperios | You guys have much more space and air to breathe |
18:41.49 | DrodoEmpire | Which explains why people live in them regardless, hmm? |
18:42.01 | Imperios | Coming from a person who spent most of his childhood in a small room in a Soviet drom |
18:42.17 | Imperios | *Soviet block house |
18:42.44 | Cuttlefish | Maybe the average person is just more claustrophobic than I am. |
18:42.48 | DrodoEmpire | They are |
18:42.56 | DrodoEmpire | And they'd sooner not go insane in a tiny apartment |
18:42.56 | Imperios | Where did you live as a child? |
18:43.03 | DrodoEmpire | Me or Cuttlefish? |
18:43.07 | Imperios | Both |
18:43.09 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
18:43.23 | DrodoEmpire | I always lived in a suburban or rural area. Which explains my line of thinking |
18:43.34 | Imperios | And the cost is not that of a problem here: an expensive house block is a still a house block |
18:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | I enjoy going to cities but I couldn't imagine living in one for too long |
18:43.39 | DrodoEmpire | Too noisy and cramped |
18:43.48 | dino82_ | :d |
18:43.59 | Cuttlefish | I lived in the suburbs actually. |
18:45.52 | Cuttlefish | I also don't like how big parking lots are. Cities are built around cars instead of people nowadays. |
18:46.34 | Imperios | Cuttlefish: See, you are used to suburb life |
18:46.36 | Monet | That might be another American issue |
18:47.23 | Cuttlefish | The american highway system was the single most expensive megaproject in history. |
18:47.24 | Imperios | You do not appreciate what for you is a given, like a lot of empty space, several floors, the closeness of nature etc |
18:47.45 | Monet | England is very well-designed when it comes to public transport. It's buckling but to not have a car i nthe UK, while pricy, isn't too much of a handicap. |
18:47.51 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Exactly |
18:47.58 | Cuttlefish | I don't feel the need to be grateful for getting useless things. |
18:48.04 | DrodoEmpire | I like to think I'm a *bit* more self-aware in that regard, no offense |
18:48.13 | DrodoEmpire | "Useless"? You think such things are useless? |
18:48.18 | Cuttlefish | Yes |
18:48.28 | DrodoEmpire | See, you miss the point |
18:48.37 | Cuttlefish | I think we just have different points |
18:48.49 | Cuttlefish | I understand what you're saying, I just disagree |
18:49.11 | DrodoEmpire | No, your point is centered *entirely* around logic. Of course mathematically speaking building small dense apartments makes sense |
18:49.29 | DrodoEmpire | But that disregards other factors such as the market for larger houses, and the wants and desires of people |
18:49.41 | DrodoEmpire | And the comfort value of a larger home closer to nature |
18:49.54 | Monet | Cuttlefish: You don't like "wasted" space, other people prefer space. |
18:50.02 | DrodoEmpire | Just because *you* don't like it (because you've been exposed to it your whole life) doesn't mean others don't |
18:50.17 | Monet | The idea of the suburb is the luxury of a hosue fit for the country close ot plenty of services. |
18:50.30 | DrodoEmpire | I've recently moved into a more urban area and I don't like it quite as much. I like the forest and the bigger home |
18:51.21 | Cuttlefish | I understand the close to nature part, but urban sprawl removing said forest is part of why I dislike it. |
18:51.28 | drom-s | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/TJohXAW.png |
18:51.55 | DrodoEmpire | It doesn't always though |
18:52.32 | DrodoEmpire | I lived in a suburban neighbourhood, and honestly it seemed to coexist well with the surrounding forest. Just outside of a yard lot there was a forest, and every yard lot there was a house that was occupied by people |
18:52.51 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, Nova Scotia isn't densely populated but its a demonstration of how it can work well |
18:52.51 | Monet | Plant more trees. |
18:52.54 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
18:52.55 | DrodoEmpire | That too |
18:53.03 | drom-s | Hachiman: Since all of them were present on the shuttle and are technically antagonists, eveyone jumped on each other |
18:53.16 | Monet | If you have a problem with how barren American suburbds look, encourage more peopel ot plant trees. |
18:53.21 | drom-s | Turning the shuttle into a bloody mess |
18:53.22 | Cuttlefish | I like the idea of connected housing where the rooves of the collective apartment complex are built like parks. A sort of massive roof garden |
18:54.11 | Imperios | Cuttlefish: BTW, do you mind that I made a Shellious character for the AGC/PAE? |
18:54.34 | Cuttlefish | Mind? Hell man I'm fecking flattered!!!! |
18:54.38 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/45/Lord_Protector_Viabel_Shantis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160124230304 That |
18:55.03 | Cuttlefish | Oh my gosh man |
18:55.31 | Cuttlefish | awesome |
18:57.10 | Cuttlefish | So what role do they play in the fictionverse? |
18:57.16 | Monet | WOuld you two consider somewhere like this? https://imagesus-ssl.homeaway.com/mda01/be2b2cbc-4d03-463d-97ae-e971a2a8bbeb.1.10 |
18:57.44 | Cuttlefish | Wow that's lovely |
18:57.54 | DrodoEmpire | It looks rather nice |
18:58.00 | dino82_ | oh the Lord protector looks very neat |
18:58.15 | DrodoEmpire | I *love* the look of it on the outside and doesn't seem all that densely-packed either |
18:59.20 | Monet | How about this? http://norumbega.co.uk/img/almrow2.jpg |
18:59.45 | DrodoEmpire | Again I love the look |
18:59.50 | DrodoEmpire | Not too sure though |
18:59.58 | DrodoEmpire | Possibly I might live in it |
19:00.33 | Cuttlefish | Something I like the idea of is square shaped housing complexes with courtyards in the middle so it feels less like a city. |
19:00.43 | Cuttlefish | Also you,know trees and stuff |
19:01.58 | Monet | https://michaelwailes.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/albion-mews.jpg ? |
19:02.16 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2651608174886356/ Fighting the Insomnolence like |
19:02.43 | DrodoEmpire | I like the look of that neighbourhood for sure |
19:02.51 | Imperios | Cuttlefish: This guy is like the new AGC's PM or something |
19:02.53 | DrodoEmpire | I'd appreciate a lawn of some sort but the outside look alone is quire nice |
19:04.24 | Monet | It might be fair to say that the Engilish are very good at using and decorating space efficiently. |
19:04.40 | Cuttlefish | It's a smol island. |
19:05.14 | Monet | And London is in one of the flattest parts of the country |
19:05.44 | OluapPlayer | Xho: Replacing it with a cockroach and that's me |
19:06.01 | Monet | http://www.stanfords.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/016/0165806_coverage_1234086_lond1800_oldF_cov.jpeg this was the extent of Londo nin 1800. |
19:06.04 | Cuttlefish | Imperios' thing reminds me. I think at this point I should just say that the Shellious are now totally open game for anyone. I'm nowhere near as active anymore, so just do what you want with them |
19:06.14 | Imperios | Since they are in the DI |
19:06.24 | Imperios | And the DI is in the PAE |
19:06.31 | Imperios | THEY ARE OURS |
19:06.34 | Imperios | laughs maniacally |
19:06.43 | Imperios | The Shellious are supposed to be small, right? |
19:06.51 | Monet | Huge |
19:06.56 | Monet | Edoshai was I think 4m tall. |
19:07.26 | Cuttlefish | I don't really have a super canon idea about that tbh |
19:07.43 | Monet | Looking at this map is...interesting. As all of that empty space is now urban sprawl. |
19:08.10 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: https://a.uguu.se/saidmh.webm when you're fultoning enemies and their friends notice it |
19:08.25 | Cuttlefish | Ok I put the average height of a shellious at around 2 meters |
19:08.48 | Cuttlefish | but apparently very heavy i guess |
19:14.03 | Cuttlefish | Monet and Imperios: I think I wanna move on to some other creation. Do either of you want control of this fic? |
19:14.10 | Imperios | Cuttlefish: We'll share it |
19:14.25 | Cuttlefish | I;ll still be on the wiki though, so I'll try to work on it a little more |
19:15.37 | Imperios | Maybe let the Frenchman collaborate too |
19:17.55 | Hachiman | Back |
19:17.58 | Cuttlefish | Where is he anyway? Also didn't he change his username? |
19:17.58 | Hachiman | Who beeped me? |
19:18.25 | Hachiman | Oh right drom |
19:18.42 | Cuttlefish | Wait dis you mean actually Hachi? I'm confuse |
19:20.30 | Imperios | No, CharleS_Murray |
19:20.33 | Imperios | Charles_Murray |
19:20.36 | Imperios | And he is actually here |
19:22.05 | Imperios | He's working with us on our new Andromedan project ^^ |
19:22.31 | Cuttlefish | cool |
19:25.46 | Ghel | It would make sense for me to get Apalos involved the Milky Way reconstruction project that he's also having a very large part in. |
19:26.00 | Ghel | And then there's that thing with the French Andromedan elections too. |
19:30.22 | Cyrannian | https://titanpad.com/jUX3bfg3Gr - Take a look errrbody |
19:37.52 | drom-s | Hachiman: Yeah, I did |
19:38.35 | dino82_ | NewKelvin-Class model: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:KelvinClassMkIIILarge.png |
19:38.51 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh nice |
19:40.43 | dino82_ | Thanks! :D |
19:49.02 | drom | Hello, Cuttlefish. It was a while |
19:49.35 | Cuttlefish | It has. Time is big |
19:52.05 | Cuttlefish | I don't think I know you that well drom how are you doing? |
19:52.42 | drom | Quitly slowly and I'm feeling like a train wreck. Otherwise I'm good. |
19:53.10 | Cuttlefish | Yeah I know the feeling. I prefer the term dead battery. |
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19:54.16 | drom | Cuttlefish: Ironically, my phone battery is fully charged and my cochlear implants also have lot of charge in their batteries. |
19:54.33 | drom | So I'm the one I need to charge |
19:55.03 | drom | Life is like a battery |
19:55.39 | DrodoEmpire | ...You have to replace it when its usefulness has been extinguished? |
19:55.47 | DrodoEmpire | That sounds like a bad life lesson, drom |
19:55.47 | drom | Everytime you charge up, it wears your capacity. Until you have too little capacity to continue serving your purpose. |
19:56.46 | drom | DrodoEmpire: I meant a rechargeable battery. Their life span is shortened by a fracture everytime they are charged. |
19:57.18 | Cuttlefish | I usually just say something funny like "i'm too young to have this many pills" or something |
19:57.45 | drom | Our stamina diminsh as we age. |
20:00.54 | Hachiman | So according to one guy who has died twice for two minutes at a time before being brought back to life, one death from a motorcycle accident and another from a drug overdose, death is effectively like a dreamless sleep |
20:01.41 | Hachiman | Oh wait not too minutes |
20:02.11 | Hachiman | One death lasted 15 minutes before resuscitation |
20:02.53 | drom | He described how was it like to be dead? |
20:02.53 | Cuttlefish | Man who cares about that. Thinking about death is a waste of the time you have living. |
20:03.07 | drom | Cuttlefish: Emos |
20:03.58 | Cuttlefish | https://xkcd.com/167/ |
20:11.12 | Imperios | Hachiman: Clinical death is usually accompanied by hallucinations is it now |
20:11.13 | Imperios | not |
20:16.05 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:209865 - Take a look |
20:20.20 | drom | PAE - the fux is dis |
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20:28.40 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Do you want to be part of the next fantasy story? Just so I can be sure |
20:29.02 | Imperios | Yours or Xho's? |
20:29.19 | OluapPlayer | Both. My next story is a sequel to Xho's |
20:29.33 | OluapPlayer | It involves the good guy team going against the Lympharians |
20:30.26 | Imperios | Rite I'll think about it |
20:30.33 | Imperios | I am not sure if my contribution is worthwhile |
20:30.54 | dino82_ | Have to go, bye bye! |
20:31.02 | OluapPlayer | It's your choice. I'm asking to make sure you're not shoved into it against your will |
20:31.37 | Imperios | Of course |
20:31.46 | Imperios | Xho OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xiivon_Alliance Wait what is this |
20:31.59 | OluapPlayer | You've never seen that? |
20:32.04 | Xho | Something I don't remember very well |
20:32.05 | OluapPlayer | That's Jo's evil SSA |
20:32.12 | OluapPlayer | She created that like over 5 years ago |
20:33.11 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:One_Thousand_Horns have preview |
20:33.13 | Imperios | About what you said regarding the SSA, the way I see it |
20:33.40 | Imperios | The SSA could be more of a military alliance led by mainstream good guys |
20:33.48 | Imperios | As I said, space NATO |
20:34.22 | Cuttlefish | snato |
20:34.49 | Imperios | Then there'd be some alliance - could easily be called Xiivon - made out of factions that, while aligned with this union thingie, oppose SSA expansion and wish to revise galactic relationships in their favour - rogue states basically |
20:34.58 | Imperios | Like you know how Russia and Iran are bros |
20:35.06 | OluapPlayer | Talk to Jo about it, she's the owner of Xiivon |
20:35.18 | Imperios | Well the idea concerns all users s |
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20:35.20 | Imperios | sort of |
20:35.46 | OluapPlayer | Also I've renamed the Lymp Collective into "Cult of the Eclipse". Mainly because Lympharians are actually a minority in the faction, and the name sounds too sci-fi for them |
20:36.03 | OluapPlayer | They're an evil religion, they gotta have an evil religion name |
20:36.50 | ImpyDroid | Collective sounded a tad sci fi yeah |
20:37.12 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid the current setup actually has it that the rogue states aren't joining the Alliance |
20:37.17 | Charles_Murray | And France would look to bar them from it |
20:37.53 | Hachiman | If you wanna show the Lympharians as a minority in the faction, there should be other notable characters in the Cult of the Eclipse aside from Tibias |
20:37.55 | OluapPlayer | silly humans think they have a say in anythin |
20:38.00 | OluapPlayer | only say they have is in being food |
20:38.08 | Cuttlefish | hey for the real un switzerland didn't even join till 2008 |
20:38.25 | Monet | SOmething like that |
20:38.58 | Monet | Until the late 2000's the UN assemble was far from total. |
20:39.10 | Monet | fro ma total representation* |
20:39.25 | Cuttlefish | technically it's still not total |
20:40.19 | Hachiman | Like, Tibias should have his own serfs and such |
20:40.30 | Hachiman | I recall him having his own personal individual minions once |
20:40.56 | OluapPlayer | Czaranis had minions |
20:41.00 | OluapPlayer | Tibias never had any |
20:41.41 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/United_Nations_Members.svg according to this map, the only nation who isn't represented is the disputed territory of the Western Sahara |
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20:42.54 | Wormy_ | hi |
20:43.25 | Cyrannian | Hai |
20:44.34 | Cuttlefish | kosovo |
20:44.51 | Monet | Oh yeah |
20:45.06 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:45.09 | Cuttlefish | and taiwan technically cause china keeps veoting it whenever they try to join |
20:45.41 | Monet | Its' coverage is almost total. |
20:47.41 | Wormy_ | That feel when you have bought tomorrow's train ticket to university and then get told you don't have to come in tomorrow if you have lots of writing to do. |
20:49.49 | drom | ouch |
20:51.28 | Comrade_Vinny | Moent: Palestine too |
20:52.02 | Monet | Comrade_Vinny: Hence "almost total" |
20:52.47 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdpQo3tRPLY |
20:53.00 | Monet | Compare the lsit of current exceptions to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#/media/File:UN_Member_Countries_World.svg |
20:54.08 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:54.30 | Xho | ew |
21:00.50 | Ghel | Wormy_: Although it seems the original "Eternity in Six Hours" paper is no longer open-access, http://aleph.se/andart2/space/what-is-the-natural-timescale-for-making-a-dyson-shell/ is a detailed enough look at, well, what the link says. |
21:02.23 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Sdqcjvw |
21:02.27 | Wormy_ | has a read |
21:08.33 | Wormy_ | I think it could be a resource for estimating industry/projects in the tier scale |
21:09.03 | Wormy_ | For the most part, big projects like this are assumed to happen fairly quickly |
21:09.33 | Wormy_ | But much quicker than even a multi-century scale (unless we want to be really rigorous about it) |
21:14.38 | Wormy_ | Now I'm reading http://aleph.se/andart2/megascale/starkiller-base-versus-the-ideal-gas-law/ |
21:16.38 | Wormy_ | the idea of using stars as bullets was visited in the Xeelee Sequence... |
21:18.00 | Wormy_ | If Starkiller base works by compressing a star into a neutron star and then accelerating it, and you think that's extreme; in Flux, tiny artificial humans lived on the surface |
21:18.20 | Wormy_ | of a neutron star fired at the Xeelee |
21:18.46 | Monet | There's a novelisation that covers how Starkiller Base works |
21:19.10 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I read on Wookipedia. But accelerated neutron star sounds much more my thing |
21:20.15 | Wormy_ | The problem of course (as mentioned), is recoil |
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21:20.31 | Wormy_ | hi |
21:21.28 | Wormy_ | "If the First Order want me to consult on their next (undoubtedly even more ambitious) project I am open for offers. However, one iron-clad condition given recent history is that I get to work from home, as far away as possible from the superweapon. Ideally in a galaxy far, far away." |
21:23.57 | Monet | My advice to the First Order: Death Stars are money sinks |
21:24.14 | Monet | Hisotry has proven you only get one good shot before the bases are destroyed. |
21:27.53 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/vp5gGoo |
21:29.18 | Monet | I see Jeff-uh-Goldbloom's famous quote |
21:33.19 | Cyrannian_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Ezduiin_Incident - Pictures coming soon |
21:34.18 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
21:37.15 | OluapPlayer | yus, check that |
21:41.34 | Wormy_ | Ghel, drom: http://imgur.com/gallery/dYsm8N8 |
21:41.54 | drom | Seen |
21:43.34 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/MupfIoD |
21:53.19 | ImpyDroid | "The Overseer should be assimilated. His knowledge will add to ou-" |
21:53.30 | ImpyDroid | Dear Lord I love this guy's line of thinking |
21:54.57 | ImpyDroid | Oh god this guy's lines are pure gold |
21:56.38 | Cyrannian_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Selanius - I should work on his page |
21:58.42 | OluapPlayer | ew empty paeg |
22:00.56 | Cyrannian_ | Nightie night |
22:11.04 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/T4eEsaT.jpg |
22:18.31 | Technobliterator | So, urm, I don't suppose there's a chance for this new universal alliance to go to war with the Loron :o |
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22:19.25 | OluapPlayer | I don't think that's its point |
22:19.28 | Monet | Technobliterator: SInce it's more of a collection of nations, it already is |
22:19.58 | Technobliterator | I don't get its point, is it like, a new SSA? ?_? |
22:20.19 | Monet | More like a space UN |
22:21.03 | Technobliterator | Was the SSA not like a space UN? |
22:21.28 | Monet | It was a bit more singular in its operation |
22:22.00 | Monet | Remember the United Nations has both North Korea and SOuth Korea as members |
22:22.21 | Monet | And those two both hate and fear each other |
22:23.48 | Technobliterator | I would rather give a canon reason for the SSA to be dead, then |
22:24.19 | OluapPlayer | Simple: it's not |
22:24.33 | OluapPlayer | It's only dead out of universe because people don't use it |
22:24.37 | Monet | The current SSA has no authority. |
22:25.12 | OluapPlayer | It's not going to get any until people use it |
22:25.14 | Monet | It took a hit when a few members didn't want to be associated with the Cyrannian Empire. |
22:25.28 | OluapPlayer | The SSA is dead because of user apathy |
22:25.48 | Technobliterator | Indeed, I would rather provide a canon reason for it to be dissolved |
22:26.09 | Technobliterator | rather than simply leave the out of universe reason |
22:26.15 | Xho | Xhodocto - point to angazhar |
22:26.28 | OluapPlayer | Angazhar gave it existence, not the other way around |
22:26.48 | Monet | No Xho has a point |
22:26.59 | OluapPlayer | Destroying the SSA is not an option |
22:27.11 | Xho | Didn't say it was Angazhar destroying it |
22:27.17 | Xho | Just a point to Angazhar because it dissolves |
22:27.20 | Monet | It started losing its purpose once the Xhodocto and their lackeys cut down on their rape and pillage of the universe |
22:27.38 | OluapPlayer | But they didn't. That's still going strong |
22:27.42 | Technobliterator | no, not really |
22:27.47 | Technobliterator | the SSA never had anything to do with the WoA |
22:27.54 | Monet | Not as much as before. |
22:28.15 | Xho | y u no understand hypothetical speech |
22:28.20 | OluapPlayer | The Corruptus's activity has remained constant since their introduction |
22:28.25 | Technobliterator | a few members who happened to be SSA members were involved in the WoA |
22:28.38 | Technobliterator | but it was Onuris that was the alliance in the WoA |
22:28.47 | Technobliterator | The SSA actually predates the WoA, I'm fairly sure |
22:28.51 | Xho | I dunno why the Onuris got rolled into the SSA |
22:28.59 | Xho | Doesn't make sense to me |
22:29.06 | Technobliterator | It was the first time fictions collaborated, but not the first story |
22:29.13 | OluapPlayer | I wouldn't know since that predates me |
22:29.17 | Xho | The Pax Infinitus is the newer incarnation of Onuris in a spiritual sense |
22:29.29 | Technobliterator | Yeah, I think it was my idea, and it didn't work out at all |
22:29.34 | Monet | "I dunno why the Onuris got rolled into the SSA" > that's probably the source of my confusion |
22:29.41 | Wormy_ | SSA brought fictions WoAs |
22:29.41 | OluapPlayer | cus ur ideas are poop |
22:29.49 | Technobliterator | ya mom |
22:29.49 | Wormy_ | *brought fictions into |
22:30.02 | Xho | Yeah the SSA predates the Xhodocto/War of Ages |
22:30.16 | OluapPlayer | afaik the SSA's original purpose was fighting the Grox |
22:30.18 | OluapPlayer | and vandals |
22:30.24 | OluapPlayer | which is silly, because vandalism is not a game |
22:30.26 | Xho | Xhodocto - u want vandal u got vandal |
22:30.36 | Wormy_ | I still see that as the true origin of the SporeWikiverse, a child of WoA and SSA as parents |
22:31.04 | OluapPlayer | SSA and WoA had a really kinky night together, you could say it was a big bang |
22:31.05 | Technobliterator | Hey, there can be funny vandalism |
22:31.17 | Cyrannian | I think we should revive the SSA, it's a fixture of the wiki |
22:31.17 | OluapPlayer | Your face is funny vandalism, it's still shit |
22:31.22 | Technobliterator | ;_; |
22:31.24 | Wormy_ | Perhaps the SSA finally sucummbed to Vandals. |
22:31.27 | Technobliterator | No, I think we should kill the SSA off |
22:31.34 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Aren't you meant to be asleep? |
22:31.37 | Technobliterator | No one's going to ever be interested in it again |
22:31.40 | OluapPlayer | Also rude much, I was waiting to rp |
22:32.03 | Xho | I think we should dissolve the SSA personally |
22:32.24 | Wormy_ | Dissolve the SSa, but keep Station Halcyon as a legacy |
22:32.26 | Xho | Especially after the whole GXS fiasco it wouldn't have a solid basis anyway |
22:32.31 | Cyrannian | I have to get up at 7:30 tomorrow and my connection was going cray |
22:32.55 | Hachiman | I get up at 7:30 or earlier on college days and I stay up until like midnight |
22:33.01 | Hachiman | Well I say midnight, sometimes earlier |
22:33.14 | Xho | 6:55 for work go fuk urselves |
22:33.15 | OluapPlayer | Yeah but you're an awful person who keeps whining about how tired you are |
22:33.23 | OluapPlayer | You have no say whatsoever |
22:33.24 | Hachiman | Because I am tired |
22:33.35 | OluapPlayer | Fuck off and DIE |
22:33.46 | Xho | 12 to 7:30 is still a decent-ish sleep |
22:33.48 | Wormy_ | I get up at 6:30 in order to get to uni on time |
22:33.50 | Cyrannian | This is escalating |
22:34.05 | Hachiman | I wish Portugal gets into another military dictatorship |
22:34.10 | Hachiman | No wait |
22:34.10 | Xho | wat |
22:34.11 | Hachiman | Brazil |
22:34.12 | Wormy_ | Liquid_Ink is my only company that early |
22:34.14 | Xho | double wat |
22:34.19 | Xho | angkor wat |
22:34.25 | Wormy_ | Good company |
22:34.42 | Xho | I need to prep up the Dominion again |
22:34.47 | Xho | wiki gettin 2 peaceful 4 dis shit |
22:34.48 | Monet | Quite the derailment |
22:34.51 | Technobliterator | oft |
22:34.52 | Technobliterator | pft |
22:34.56 | OluapPlayer | No you don't, you need to go work on Dragon Speaker |
22:35.01 | Xho | fu |
22:35.05 | Technobliterator | the Loron are already going to completely destroy the peaceful era |
22:35.05 | Cyrannian | But I thought it was canon that the SSA kerploded when Halcyon B kerploded |
22:35.08 | Xho | I do though |
22:35.31 | Monet | Though I wonder: Isn't the MCA a kind of new SSA? |
22:35.41 | Xho | I was going to do Dragon Speaker then that was the day I learned my friend died so it kind of destroyed the vibe |
22:35.55 | OluapPlayer | "he stopped speaking" |
22:35.57 | Monet | Like some sort of spiritual successor |
22:36.18 | OluapPlayer | Okay that was kinda mean, sorry |
22:36.30 | Xho | You're talking to me |
22:36.36 | Cyrannian | That's one way to look at it |
22:36.36 | Xho | Do you think mean is an easy feat hur |
22:36.42 | OluapPlayer | I apologize anyway cus im polite |
22:36.44 | OluapPlayer | unlike u cunt |
22:36.48 | Xho | fuk off |
22:37.26 | Xho | Does need more Dominion though |
22:37.32 | Xho | Wiki's gone too long without 'PURGE UNIVERSE' |
22:37.33 | Monet | THat's not very polite |
22:37.36 | OluapPlayer | Regardless, we should probably put an end to the SSA because let's be frank, we're gonna have it die again |
22:37.41 | Technobliterator | I concur |
22:37.50 | Technobliterator | This new organisation will probably be better |
22:37.53 | OluapPlayer | Xho: we go back and finish tantum |
22:37.57 | Monet | I'm not denying it's already dead. |
22:38.02 | Technobliterator | it's basically a group of all the galactic wide alliances at this point |
22:38.03 | Xho | dat 2 much 2 ask |
22:38.10 | Technobliterator | like PAE and the new Milky Way one |
22:38.15 | Technobliterator | and I assume PCA? |
22:39.02 | OluapPlayer | If you're asking if the PCA will be part of space!UN, yes they will |
22:39.19 | OluapPlayer | Because I should preferably stop isolating myself from the rest of the fictionverse |
22:39.35 | Technobliterator | I don't feel like you're that isolated |
22:39.48 | OluapPlayer | I am. I've become isolated at Borealis |
22:39.59 | OluapPlayer | My only fiction outside of that is at Cyrannus |
22:40.18 | Monet | More interaction. |
22:40.26 | OluapPlayer | is difficult |
22:40.28 | Technobliterator | That's why I said you're not that isolated because you have fiction in Cyrannus |
22:40.41 | OluapPlayer | dunt giv me your butts and iffs |
22:40.46 | Technobliterator | I'm probably the most isolated person in fiction now that I have no UNO anymore |
22:40.48 | Technobliterator | ;_; |
22:40.49 | Technobliterator | ;___; |
22:40.58 | OluapPlayer | ur own fault cause you won't work on your fiction |
22:41.04 | Monet | Okay going on about "no more UNO" is starting ot get boring |
22:41.14 | Xho | Not sure whether the Kicath will approve of the UGA |
22:41.33 | OluapPlayer | Kicath - ew, they're doing diplomacy |
22:41.38 | Technobliterator | bit rude |
22:42.25 | Hachiman | uga buga where all da white chicks at |
22:42.28 | Monet | You bring it up every single time like you need to constantly remind us you can't use UNO anymore. |
22:42.37 | Monet | We get it! |
22:42.43 | DrodoEmpire | Why are you mad, Monet? |
22:42.52 | Hachiman | Dude chill the fuck out |
22:42.53 | OluapPlayer | You say a lot of boring things. You don't see me calling you out for it |
22:42.56 | DrodoEmpire | Does anybody know why he's mad... I don't get it |
22:42.57 | Technobliterator | Monet, if you wanted me to list every single gripe I had with users here, I would ._. |
22:43.08 | Xho | My main gripe with everyone is that THEY ALL EXIST |
22:43.12 | DrodoEmpire | We're all aloud to blab on about stuff |
22:43.13 | Technobliterator | I don't do that |
22:43.26 | Xho | But seriously everyone chill the fuck out before |
22:43.34 | Xho | Oh wait I'm not admin anymore, bugger |
22:43.37 | Xho | nevermind |
22:43.38 | OluapPlayer | before, not after |
22:43.47 | Technobliterator | I literally just say it because I'm so used to having them around |
22:43.53 | Technobliterator | and then keep remembering |
22:43.59 | Xho | cuz u dum |
22:44.00 | DrodoEmpire | I don't presume everybody appreciates my droning on about history or the Drodo but I'm glad people share the common courtesy not to tell me to shut up |
22:44.02 | Xho | dum dum dum |
22:44.07 | Technobliterator | ya mom |
22:44.09 | Xho | u |
22:44.43 | Xho | Plot twist: Dominion joins Space!UN |
22:44.57 | Wormy_ | Lets just calm down, remember we are writing on a screen so all the chances of misjudgement are there. |
22:44.59 | Monet | Techno: I know, this wasn't polite of me. |
22:45.01 | Technobliterator | Plot twist: Rogue Boyz join Space!UN |
22:45.10 | Xho | plot twist no pizza |
22:45.16 | OluapPlayer | Dominion - YOU'RE ALL EMBARGO'D what do you mean you already embargo'd us |
22:45.19 | Technobliterator | Rogue Boyz leave then |
22:45.27 | Monet | Hearing the same thing over and over gets on my nerves sometimes. |
22:45.28 | Technobliterator | and just destroy it |
22:45.30 | Xho | Hez - no hay equals ay |
22:45.34 | Xho | nay* |
22:45.57 | Technobliterator | Lots of things get on my nerves. I don't yell at people for it or try to single them out. I just phase out and stop looking at the channel. |
22:46.10 | Monet | I think WOrmy was right |
22:46.18 | Monet | I'm not furious actually. |
22:46.26 | Wormy_ | I'm sure Monet's comment was misplaced on poor judgement and not malicious |
22:46.55 | Monet | I didn't mean to sound like I blew my top. |
22:47.10 | Xho | Whatever happened to that Endless Space fiction |
22:47.14 | Wormy_ | For example, its the first Time I've heard this "No UNO I'm lonely" stuff, its all a matter of perspective |
22:47.15 | Technobliterator | It's honestly the main reason I rarely am around anymore |
22:47.36 | Hachiman | Monet: Then be conscious of how much you talk about Uriel and the Imperium because whenever the topic of fiction comes up, you almost immediately bring them up |
22:47.40 | OluapPlayer | I'm pretty sure Wormy is gonna do that later |
22:47.48 | OluapPlayer | After he gets over his dying hand |
22:48.05 | Xho | Needs more Dominion intervention |
22:48.08 | Cyrannian | Dino and I wrote a chapter last week |
22:48.10 | Technobliterator | that I very frequently check the channel, find the same depressing topics about politics and ethnics and whatnot, just sigh and check a different channel |
22:48.11 | Xho | dying hand what |
22:48.18 | OluapPlayer | Dominion - guys pls don't make us fire the hyperlasers |
22:48.22 | Wormy_ | My hand is going to need injections, sadly |
22:48.28 | Wormy_ | I have developed RSI |
22:48.29 | Hachiman | Wait what |
22:48.45 | Xho | You need to learn a muscial instrument or something |
22:48.45 | Hachiman | Oh right for a moment I thought Wormy was a bigger achiever than I was |
22:48.52 | Xho | Keep the fingers flexible |
22:48.53 | OluapPlayer | kek |
22:49.01 | Xho | No Hachi, no one can top you |
22:49.19 | Xho | Or be worse than you, I dunno how it works |
22:49.22 | Hachiman | I incapacitated my thumb for three days once |
22:49.33 | Wormy_ | Too much computer use. It is why I am "Wormydroid" all the time and stopped doing almost anything on the wiki. At least until I reach my deadlines,both of which are computer intensive. |
22:49.33 | Monet | Hachiman: I did suspect. But the DI is really the only active fiction I have. |
22:49.37 | Technobliterator | ouch |
22:49.43 | OluapPlayer | Use your other things then |
22:49.52 | OluapPlayer | You have more than the DI. Develop your other fiction |
22:49.55 | Hachiman | I cannot exactly put my dick in my asshole |
22:49.56 | Technobliterator | Yeah, well, UNO was the only active fiction I had, and I got rid of it |
22:50.01 | Hachiman | Oh right you meant Monet |
22:50.01 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Yeah my middle fingers get locked together |
22:50.11 | OluapPlayer | What the fuck hur |
22:50.13 | Technobliterator | which is exactly why I was so used to having them |
22:50.25 | Xho | What the |
22:50.33 | Xho | Where the hell did that conversation go |
22:50.44 | OluapPlayer | Into Hachi's asshole apparently |
22:50.49 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
22:50.54 | Xho | As it normally does |
22:50.59 | Technobliterator | .___. |
22:51.03 | Xho | hoh get rekt |
22:51.04 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I guess I gorget about them sometimes. |
22:51.05 | Cyrannian | The best place it could go |
22:51.13 | Technobliterator | .________. |
22:51.15 | Hachiman | Oh my God |
22:51.18 | Monet | forget* |
22:51.29 | OluapPlayer | olol |
22:52.32 | Technobliterator | In a few week's time, I'm planning on starting the new everyone vs Loron fiction |
22:52.35 | Technobliterator | anyone wanna join in :o |
22:52.56 | Xho | I would naturally |
22:52.56 | OluapPlayer | Sure why not |
22:53.09 | Wormy_ | Give me a couple of weeks, yeah |
22:53.10 | Technobliterator | I think the Dominion can side with the Loron just to fuck with everyone |
22:53.11 | Cyrannian | I've never been involved in a Loron fiction, so ermagerd sure |
22:53.22 | Technobliterator | ^.^ |
22:53.26 | Xho | I don't think Hez would lower himself to the Loron's level hur |
22:53.36 | Xho | I gotta stop using hur |
22:53.42 | OluapPlayer | Hez - hez |
22:53.47 | Wormy_ | Hue do |
22:53.49 | Technobliterator | I was going to suggest Santorakh would, but well, Mad'Hatta wouldn't |
22:54.03 | Xho | Santorakh probably would find some amusement out of it |
22:54.05 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh doesn't have to make sense |
22:54.23 | Xho | Most of Santorakh's character comes from the fact that he never makes sense |
22:55.19 | Xho | As for Mad'Hatta, well |
22:55.55 | Ghel | It makes sense to have Apalos throw some ships into the war effort. Whether I'll have any characters I can't be sure. |
22:55.56 | OluapPlayer | Mad'Hatta - YOO DONT LOOK LIKE ALICE TA ME *explodes planet* |
22:55.58 | Xho | Santorakh does have absolute power over Mad'Hatta so he could potentially side with the Rogue Boyz on Santorakh's command |
22:56.26 | Xho | Though Santorakh's command is more like a polite request addled with cheese |
22:56.51 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh - go there and take some cheese otherwise i'll flail you and feed you to volim's third hole |
22:57.00 | Xho | Mad'Hatta - plz no |
22:58.08 | Xho | Santorakh's words would be something along the likes of "Go and pay a visit to your wonderfully TRAITOROUS cousins, but of course, play nice. And perhaps introduce them to some actual FRESH CHEESE to put on those delicious contraptions of food of theirs! Oh, and feel free to eat as many mortals as you want. You're a growing boy after all." |
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22:59.12 | Cyrannian | https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/693724337598283776 "Only half your thoughts?" |
22:59.40 | OluapPlayer | hur |
23:00.03 | Wormy_ | top comment "@David_Cameron My thoughts are that it's a bit weird how you fucked a dead pig in the ass to make people like you." |
23:00.28 | Xho | I thought it was in the mouth |
23:00.33 | Xho | eh whatever he fucked a pig |
23:00.45 | Hachiman | It was in the mouth |
23:00.51 | Hachiman | That person is misinformed |
23:01.01 | Cyrannian | I'm going to report him |
23:01.13 | Xho | wow.avi |
23:01.44 | Xho | I dunno how well Mad'Hatta would cooperate with the Rogue Boyz though |
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23:03.45 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaFS4eWUsAAATSc.jpg:large |
23:04.04 | OluapPlayer | olol |
23:04.32 | Technobliterator | given how Billig is |
23:04.41 | Technobliterator | there is plenty of him to go around |
23:04.42 | Xho | The Rogue Boyz might see Mad'Hatta as a 'Gratz wannabe dumbo' |
23:05.18 | Technobliterator | Honestly, after they took out both Gratz'kaoz and Zr'Ahgloth, they have no reason to be scared of anyone anymore |
23:05.27 | Hachiman | tfw 2011 was four years ago |
23:05.34 | OluapPlayer | 5 |
23:05.40 | Hachiman | Oh God |
23:06.35 | Technobliterator | what happened in 2011 |
23:06.48 | Xho | Hell I dunno |
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23:07.17 | Cyrannian | Great Cyrannus War was in 2011 I think |
23:07.44 | OluapPlayer | The original Fog War |
23:08.02 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZpB_gHW0AEJOLt.jpg:large - Erissare as a newborn |
23:08.31 | Xho | Santorakh - gtfo |
23:09.39 | OluapPlayer | Erissare - the egg may have left my mother with a hole in it |
23:27.28 | OluapPlayer | and so dies the IRC |
23:28.01 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
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