IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160131

00:03.03AdmiralPandaIf there are two arctic bears, are they bipolar?
00:03.16drom|semiWormy_: I posted that already before you
00:03.24drom|semiAdmiralPanda: Get out
00:03.36AdmiralPandarequest denied :)
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01:12.53Wormy_drom|semi:  I reposted it so people would know what I was talking about
01:14.34drom|semiFair enough
01:21.33Wormy_My expectation is that qualia are likely to arise from physicality.  If so, we will probably be able to change the engineering of our brains in principle, though that will mean altering the individual.  Engineering qualia thus become a problem of learning how.
01:23.22Wormy_There's evidence the perception of colour has changed in history too, but it's difficult to say for certain
01:27.06Wormy_The Himba people in Namibia have no word for blue and also struggle to distinguish it from green.
01:30.04DrodoEmpireI've heard a lot about the history of colour
01:30.14DrodoEmpireMany cultures throw blue and green into the same colour
01:30.24DrodoEmpireHaving the blue and green bits as opposite ends of a spectrum
01:30.37DrodoEmpireIn fact blue as a colour is a very recent thing
01:44.13Wormy_My mother can't see blue, but the options don't think she is colour-blind as far as the eye goes
01:44.20Wormy_*opticians
01:44.32DrodoEmpireAhh
01:44.36Wormy_The sky looks grey to her
01:44.36DrodoEmpireThat's very odd, then
01:44.49DrodoEmpireDoes she consistently confuse it with a different colour?
01:45.05DrodoEmpireActually, very stupid question
01:45.06DrodoEmpiremy bad
01:45.41Wormy_She knows what we mean by blue, but only sees it as grey, or purpely-grey
01:45.50DrodoEmpireYeah that's weird... I presume she grew up in a culture and with a language that possesses the idea of "blue"?
01:46.13DrodoEmpireRight
01:46.16DrodoEmpireOdd indeed
01:46.44Wormy_She is English, but as a child she had mild language difficulty.  And language and colour perception are thought to be related in some way.
01:46.52DrodoEmpireOkay
01:47.23Wormy_she might be able to see very dark blues
01:47.48Wormy_It seems unfortunate really, to see never know the blueness of the sky.
01:48.21DrodoEmpirehm.
01:51.09Wormy_There is a way to trick yourself into seeing so-called impossible colours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color#Claimed_evidence_for_ability_to_see_impossible_colors_not_in_the_color_space
01:51.42DrodoEmpireInteresting...
01:52.34Wormy_This video actually worked for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tA5Mcx92M
01:52.42DrodoEmpireAlso, I've just watched a video that was quite interesting for me about scimitars
01:52.48Wormy_the test doesn't strain the eye too uncomfortably
01:54.02DrodoEmpireBasically the idea was that scimitars, being essentially sabres, were highly curved, topheavy, and not ideal for the "classic" usage of a sword (hands on the grip, swings) but instead were used in a sort of "half-swording" method
01:54.16DrodoEmpire(This would be *dismounted* use of a scimitar)
01:55.17DrodoEmpireThe method was basically one hand on the grip, but keeping the sword very close, almost against your chest, putting your free hand behind the sabre and pushing the flat back of it forward to strike
01:55.58DrodoEmpireYou could use this method to do very close-range sawing motions and grappling, and it was good on the defense too
01:56.23DrodoEmpireIt also bypassed the fact that otherwise, you need a *lot* of space to use a sword like that conventionally
01:57.03DrodoEmpireThere isn't much evidence beyond an anecdote from a 70s attack in Lebanon (where a British platoon was assaulted by three men with scimitars using the above method, suffering seventeen wounded)
01:57.19DrodoEmpireBut its otherwise an interesting idea
01:59.31Wormy_indeed
02:00.27DrodoEmpireI tried one of tests...
02:00.39DrodoEmpireDidn't do too much for me, but I got a faint inkling of something anyway
02:00.51DrodoEmpireMay've just been me staring at a screen too long >.<
02:02.33DrodoEmpireAlso, a little side note but a channel name like "Top5Quantum" makes me think its gonna sell me gluten-free essential broccoli oils on the corner of the local Whole Foods. :p
02:02.43DrodoEmpireAll the while telling me the evils of "MonSatan"
02:05.46Wormy_maybe, but this is the 'official' test and it doesn't work for me having to be cross-eyed somewhat hurts https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Impossible_Colors%2C_Blue_and_Yellow%2C_for_3dTV.png
02:06.31DrodoEmpireYeah that test is awful
02:06.47DrodoEmpireAnd that was more of a joke, nothing on the actual quality of the test XD
02:36.11Wormy_bye
02:42.28DrodoEmpiretest
02:54.46DrodoEmpireHello again
03:46.56Zillafire101Hello.
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09:28.43JepardiHi
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11:38.55dino82_hi
11:39.28Liquid_InkHey
11:44.43dino82_how is allz doing?
11:46.00GhelaeHello.
11:47.24GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
11:52.15dino82_I am great as well, thanks!
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12:03.56Wormy_Imperios, Liquid_Ink: Donald Trump with a Cockney accent https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=-cA0NM5RAY0
12:03.58Wormy_hi
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12:06.06HachimanSo I have come to realize something
12:07.07drom|semiHachiman: nukeops round
12:07.15drom|semiI'm one of the ops
12:07.21HachimanOh God
12:07.24drom|semiWe managed to blow up the station within 10 mins
12:07.56drom|semiAll because we did was kill a scientist who had the disk surgically embedded within him and blow the tele-communications up.
12:08.05drom|semiWhile the station plunged into an anarchy
12:08.33drom|semiBecause the atmosphereics released plasma and lit it on fire
12:08.45HachimanThe universe is estimated to be 13.75 billion years old and red dwarf stars are estimated to have a lifespan between 1 and 10 trillion years; every red dwarf star currently in existence is still an infant while our sun is reaching its own middle ages
12:08.47drom|semiWhile the security arrested everyone they could see.
12:10.10drom|semiIt wrecked once again the tele-communications and killed half of the station
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12:32.08HachimanHi Imp
12:58.10drom|semiHachiman: Playing as a RD is really ez in SS13
13:05.29ImperiosHi
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13:11.19WormydroidHi
13:11.34GhelaeHello.
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13:23.12WormydroidHi
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14:17.46drom|semiHachiman: I like how in SS13 you both love and fear clowns
14:17.54HachimanI hate clowns
14:17.59HachimanThough people hate janitors more
14:18.14drom|semiYeah. Janitors are among the worst.
14:18.19drom|semiThe captain being the worst
14:19.04drom|semiAlthough I hate mimes and assistants
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14:27.05WormydroidHi
14:34.24MonetHi
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14:44.37OluapPlayerspon
14:44.37XhoNEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN
14:44.57Xhoon
14:58.52WormydroidTerry Wogan is dead
14:59.15XhoI saw
14:59.20Monet...what?
14:59.22XhoEVERYONE'S DYING, STOP IT
14:59.41WormydroidMonet it is a sad sad day
14:59.50OluapPlayerWho that
15:00.07MonetOluapPlayer: A very famous British TV personality
15:00.26MonetAnd radio
15:00.40WormydroidBritish radio presenter and TV presenter/narrator
15:01.16WormydroidWe are used to hraring his voice daily
15:07.35XhoHm what to do
15:08.20XhoWill Pudsey Bear ever fix his goddamn eye
15:09.29OluapPlayerDragon Speaker dangit
15:09.31OluapPlayeror Eschaton
15:10.00HachimanPudsey Bear is a war veteran; he lost his eye when he was stationed in Africa on an outpost near a village and was the sole survivor of a defensive countermeasure against local warlords, having to participate in combat against child soldiers and their masters
15:10.05Xhopick one u
15:10.48HachimanHe takes part in charity in order to sooth the bloody memories of his war-torn past
15:11.39OluapPlayerescccchhhh den
15:12.18XhoRight lemme do that story I've been meaning to do
15:34.51XhoOluapPlayer: Alhazred can make his face disappear right
15:34.58OluapPlayerYes
15:40.56OluapPlayerbrb
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15:46.46WormydroidHuh, so no more than 18 years ago when I moved to my town, there wete no more than 6 gebetic families
15:46.59WormydroidGenetic
15:47.14XhoSO THE NORTH DOES INBREED      I KNEW IT
15:47.33OluapPlayerChrome got filled with malware
15:47.33Wormydroid#Derybyshire ladies and gentlemen
15:47.41OluapPlayerNow I switched to Firefox
15:47.45WormydroidI know Edale still has only two
15:47.48Xhofirefloof
15:48.01XhoYeah Chrome is a CPU-guzzler anyway
15:48.50drom|semiMy only beef with Firefox is it isn't stylish or good as Chrome at some aspects
15:53.05WormydroidI've noticed that
15:53.19WormydroidBut my site is more stable on Firefawks
15:55.48OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/mkhYFav.jpg
15:56.46Hachimanolol
16:04.04Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12654551_1697801303765137_6672651552269958223_n.jpg?oh=f3ebf8057a4a7e573c426914108423d1&oe=57251A81 Rage faces but still
16:05.27drom|semiThat, damn
16:05.39OluapPlayerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/072/443/e43.png NOOOO
16:06.30Xholel
16:06.44Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Darkest_Before_Dawn#The_Brother.27s_Return rite
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16:07.52OluapPlayerBROTHARRRRRR
16:09.08XhoJulianus is Hulk Hogan confirmed
16:10.02ImperiosXho: So it is south in the New World and the north in the Old World
16:10.36Xhodafuq u talkin about
16:12.19OluapPlayerAlhazred - ew he touched me
16:12.33XhoAlhazred - STILL NOT CLEAN      STILL NOT CLEAN
16:12.39ImperiosXho: Incest
16:12.56OluapPlayernext section nao
16:12.57XhoImperios: Oh right, no it's pretty much still old world everywhere except for London
16:13.52OluapPlayerWe've not rp'd for half a month
16:14.15Xhohttps://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 go do dis den
16:14.26XhoIf we power through it this is the last section
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16:14.59OluapPlayer~crush Cyrannian
16:15.03infobotACTION crushes Cyrannian with a full height scsi disk
16:15.09Cyrannian~smash OluapPlayer
16:15.09infobotACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction
16:15.56OluapPlayerHachiman Imperios: u rp
16:16.27HachimanBit sudden
16:16.37OluapPlayerstop fappin and do dis
16:16.43Hachimanech
16:16.45HachimanFine
16:17.18HachimanGonna get nowhere by doing nothing anyway hur
16:18.25OluapPlayergit on the pad then
16:19.38ImperiosOluapPlayer: I was about to do my own Fog War thing
16:19.52ImperiosLike I would not mind if it was not done in a chronological order
16:19.55ImperiosBut
16:19.57HachimanWe can do Fog War any time
16:20.05ImperiosOH wait is that Fog War
16:20.13ImperiosWhat are you doing rn
16:20.27OluapPlayerFantasyverse
16:20.30ImperiosOh
16:20.39ImperiosSorry :7
16:20.48OluapPlayerdur
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16:30.08WormydroidWelcome back
16:30.58GhelHello.
17:11.01ImperiosXho: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany Jij
17:11.02ImperiosHuh
17:11.14Xhowhy tho
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17:20.10MonetXho: Possibly for sympathy
17:20.21WormydroidOops, accidently ignored nearly everyone after scratching something off my screen
17:20.39OluapPlayerdats rude
17:20.44MonetThat and "migrant" seems to be the latest scapegoat group.
17:21.09WormydroidA bit antisocial, yeah.
17:22.28MonetOluapPlayer: Human nature.
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17:23.12Wormydroid<PROTECTED>
17:23.34OluapPlayerI mean that to Wormy
17:24.12MonetOh
17:29.02HachimanFUCK OFF TITANPAD
17:31.03OluapPlayertitanFUCK
17:31.13XhoFAK OFFFFF
17:32.09OluapPlayerfek uff
17:32.22HachimanI can't be doin' with this
17:32.25XhoWow this Titanpad
17:32.33XhoOh now I've disconnected
17:32.34Xho0/10
17:32.41OluapPlayerTitanpad went full retard, news at 11
17:33.27HachimanGotta wonder if a monkey is the one handling Titanpad's servers
17:33.57OluapPlayerThat would be funny, and Titanpad is not funny
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17:34.31DrodoEmpireHi everyone
17:35.14GhelHello.
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17:37.54MonetLitening to Fred Astaire's "Putting on the Ritz"
17:39.37MonetI find it interesting how back i nthe day, wealthy families like the Rokefellers were of great public interest
17:40.03OluapPlayerImp git back in the pad
17:40.18MonetWHo captured the public imagination as opposed to being looked at with immense revulsion
17:43.38TekDroidMonet: I suppose you can blame that on death of the American Dream and the shift of popular opinions towards greedy corporations
17:44.07WormydroidDid the commoners/peasant folk do the same though?
17:44.53MonetTekDroid: Probably
17:45.49TekDroidDecades ago it was all about reaching for that wealth and the belief that anyone could reach it if they tried
17:46.48MonetNowadays everyone grumbles over how wealthy these people are compared ot everyone else.
17:46.49WormydroidActually, yeah. That is why even Thatcher was popular amongst the working clasd
17:47.48TekDroidThe economic optimism of past decades is dead to modern society
17:48.25WormydroidTo grumble about the existence of wealthy peope might be misdirected.  But to grumble against unfair power they have is another story.
17:48.42TekDroidCorporate politics like funding pro-oil groups is also far more visible to the public.
17:48.45MonetThey're a new-age aristocracy.
17:48.58DrodoEmpireGrumbling about the existence of the wealthy is utterly absurd, Wormy
17:49.00DrodoEmpire:p
17:49.08DrodoEmpireHowever Corporatism is indeed an issue
17:49.17WormydroidThat is what I said...
17:49.35DrodoEmpireI took a more certain stance on the matter
17:49.57WormydroidHowever I feel no affection towards the snobby aristocracy of UK politics
17:50.07GhelDrodo evidently does not get the ancient English art of understatement.
17:50.30MonetLooking at some statistics, sure the PM earns £147,000 a year, but it's peanuts comapred to a guy like Bill Gates.
17:50.34DrodoEmpirePerhaps not Ghel
17:50.35DrodoEmpire:p
17:50.39DrodoEmpireSorry
17:51.11DrodoEmpireEither way, corporatism is the end-result of underregulated or unregulated capitalism, which is otherwise a good system
17:51.13GhelI *was* going to say "mild understatement" but thought better of it.
17:51.52MonetThere are possibly two alternatives: raise the average wage of everyone else, or put ever more restrictions on the rich.
17:52.09MonetBoth of those however, pose consequences.
17:52.50DrodoEmpireRight, raising the average wage would put things like the restaurant industry into dire straits
17:53.13DrodoEmpireAnd restrictions on the rich mean they may start to move their capital out of the country
17:53.18DrodoEmpireAnd their production and jobs
17:53.31WormydroidMeh, too many people in the developed world rely on foodbanks
17:53.31DrodoEmpireThough this second issue could be mitigated by tariffs and increased protectionism
17:53.35MonetAs fancy as those places are, a resturaunt is a highly volatile industry.
17:53.53WormydroidI was shocked by qaint little town had one
17:54.53Wormydroid*my
17:55.01MonetThough I do wonder if demonising the rich causes its own problems
17:55.26MonetAs Tek said, back in the 40s the Rockafellers were seen as peopel to aspire to: They encouraged the pursuit of social mobility.
17:55.27DrodoEmpirePersonally I take more the side of taxing the wealthiest groups more so that more government-funded services can be provided, and preventing these rich corporation owners from taking their business and jobs elsewhere by raising tariffs
17:55.45WormydroidYeah
17:55.49DrodoEmpireSo it becomes less profitable to use cheap unregualted foreign labour
17:56.00DrodoEmpireAnd provides more jobs at home, ideallt.
17:56.02DrodoEmpire*ideally
17:56.53MonetThere was an interesting phenomenon in the Anno 2205 comunity recently
17:57.04DrodoEmpireOh?
17:57.11WormydroidIt anmoys me to no end companies like Starbucks are tax free
17:57.17DrodoEmpire^
17:58.10MonetShortly after the game came out there was lots of complaint that the Global Market mechanic - where prices could supposedly be influenced by other players' activities - could easily be exploited, allowing higher-end products to be bought and shipped at a lower cost than they would have been if produced by the players.
17:58.31DrodoEmpireAhh
17:58.31MonetSo a lot of people ended up buying from the world market as opposed to producing the goods themselves.
17:58.44DrodoEmpireA bit like real life, then?
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17:58.57DrodoEmpireClever mechanic actually
17:58.59DrodoEmpireHi
17:59.03CuttlefishHello
17:59.18MonetThen a week ago Blue Byte released a patch that fixed the World Market. And the prices for these goods *skyrocketed*
17:59.44Wormydroidhttp://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/12/19/let-off-the-hook-corporations-allowed-to-avoid-billions-in-t
18:00.24MonetSome peopel actually went on the forums complaining the market was even *more* broken than before.
18:01.50MonetThe thing that interested me was how popular this exploit was before the patch.
18:02.24MonetPeople complained, but a lot of peopel used it anyway to get massive cities for the most efficient expenditure.
18:05.21MonetWormydroid: Ad even if they're not tax free, they'll set up regional headquarters in places with very lox corporate tax rates
18:05.26HachimanThe government should tax church
18:07.39MonetIn principle, religions and charities are usually ecxempt from tax because they shouldn't eb working on profit motive.
18:07.56MonetBut like every system ever devised, it's exploited.
18:08.15DrodoEmpireHachi: I'd agree but I'm not so sure.
18:08.42DrodoEmpireCall me naive but most churches around my own town are not "for profit" operations. ;p
18:08.44DrodoEmpire*:p
18:08.59DrodoEmpireIn fact they do a lot of charitable work. Doesn't seem quite fair to tax them
18:09.54CuttlefishIf we're talking taxes, I think there should be a higher inheritance tax. Old money sucks.
18:09.56MonetTithes were originally put in place as a way to ensure peopel would financially or materially support the establishment.
18:10.59CuttlefishBig companies are like financial monarchies.
18:11.12DrodoEmpireRight, I agree
18:11.21DrodoEmpireWhich is why there should be stronger regulation
18:11.33MonetRegulation is often better than outright forbiddance.
18:12.08CuttlefishWell I wouldn't for for 100%. I see no issue with getting the family estate, just not the millions in oil revenue.
18:12.34DrodoEmpireI'd also agree with inheritance, though what about those poorer families who have little to inherit anyway? Perhaps there could be some way to split the tax up by wealth or value of inheritance anyhow
18:13.05MonetIts not a cut-and-dry solution
18:13.14DrodoEmpireNothing really is, no
18:14.43CuttlefishPersonally I think the government should handle resource industry like steel and oil.
18:15.00MonetChina already does that.
18:15.34MonetAnd China's environmental record is ...stellar. :p
18:15.56CuttlefishThe US is not better
18:16.09DrodoEmpireYeah it is
18:16.10DrodoEmpire:p
18:16.16DrodoEmpireIts *much* better
18:16.36CuttlefishI mean with like oil spills and stuff.
18:16.46MonetAlso the thing about state-owned industry is it probably won't go down very well in the West.
18:16.57DrodoEmpireThe say "not better when it comes to oil spills" next time
18:17.26DrodoEmpirehttp://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/12/06/beijing-smog-alert.jpg - NY doesn't look like this, for example.
18:17.30DrodoEmpireBeijing does
18:17.32DrodoEmpire:p
18:17.39CuttlefishI personally think the resources are the property of the state that owns the territory.
18:18.27DrodoEmpireYes... Originally. I see no issue with private people then coming to own it, or to purchase the property to start an operation to use said resources
18:18.29MonetThing is there is a lot of international trade regarding material
18:18.42DrodoEmpireAnd to own it themselves
18:19.35MonetGetting territorial about wh oowns what might not be the best idea in the long-term.
18:20.01DrodoEmpireNo, but sovereign land is sovereign land
18:20.16CuttlefishI really want us to start using hydrogen fuel already.
18:20.40DrodoEmpireI don't necessarily agree that a *country* can use its state-run company to extract another nation's resources
18:21.07DrodoEmpireAnd if a foreign company wants to do it they should recieve tariffs and taxes that are appropriate
18:21.14DrodoEmpire*foreign private company
18:22.08MonetCuttlefish: Even if we do start using hudrogen fuel say next week, there's the issue that it'll be cheaper to use alternative for a few years at first.
18:25.29CuttlefishI'm kinda interested to see how the whole Antarctica thing turns out. That treaty is a mess.
18:26.20MonetThere's stil la substantial coal and natural gas industry
18:28.20MonetQuick widespread adoption of hydrogen power is not going to come without job losses or financial issues
18:28.25CuttlefishI think international waters have allot of potential. I guess the main problem is who gets it when nobody owns it.
18:29.04CuttlefishI don't think anything can have a quick adoption. Even now, most countries still use gas lamps.
18:29.15CuttlefishNot even joking. They use lamps
18:29.20Cuttlefishwith gas
18:30.49DrodoEmpireWhat, like a kerosene lamp?
18:30.59DrodoEmpireThose are still around basically everywhere. ;p
18:31.01DrodoEmpire*:p
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18:31.18DrodoEmpireNot as common mind you but they're not *obsolete*. They light things just fine
18:31.23CuttlefishI never see those in places with electricity
18:31.43DrodoEmpireEver have the power cut out?
18:32.30CuttlefishWell mostly we have flashlights.
18:32.32DrodoEmpireHi dino
18:32.34OfficerJackalYou do what you gotta do I guess, I mean kerosene lamps are just fine really, just don't drop it or anything. :/ That being said, I don't think I have a kerosene lamp in my house, although I'd imagine they would be great for areas with unreliable electricity/limited access to batteries.
18:32.43dino82_hello all
18:32.46dino82_how is alz doing :D
18:32.54OpelSpeedsterI'm bored to hell.
18:33.11DrodoEmpireSame, but there's a few downstairs anyway
18:33.20DrodoEmpire*downstairs where I live that is
18:33.45CuttlefishWell now I'm thinking about american housing again.
18:33.47DrodoEmpireEither way, its not all that incredible to still have gas lamps about
18:33.55CuttlefishAnyone else hate how big houses are
18:34.10CuttlefishPeople have entire rooms just for eating on holidays
18:34.15DrodoEmpireThey aren't used as often anymore of course but they still exist in the first world
18:34.18HachimanGas lamps last longer than flashlights and light rooms and hallways more efficiently
18:34.26MonetCuttlefish: I live in the country rated as having the smallest average house size in the Western developed world.
18:34.33HachimanI would like to see a flashlight last for over six months
18:34.47HachimanYou would need to spend so much on batteries
18:34.53DrodoEmpireI like bigger houses honestly. :p
18:34.58MonetI can't say anything on "how big houses are"
18:35.05OfficerJackalHachiman: Yeah, that too. Batteries are expensive.
18:35.13CuttlefishI hate the concept of the suburbs
18:35.17HachimanAnd more difficult to transport
18:35.21CuttlefishAll that wasted space upsets me
18:35.26HachimanAnd more difficult to find when it counts
18:35.44CuttlefishWho even uses a front lawn? Why do they need those?
18:35.55DrodoEmpireI appreciate the relative peacefulness of the suburbs or rural areas. I like going to cities for a *bit* but eventually I get sick of it and want to go back
18:35.56MonetCuttlefish: You might like it in England then...maybe
18:36.28OfficerJackalI don't really mind what people do with their houses or what their houses are like, it's their house, let them do what they want.
18:36.29DrodoEmpireCuttlefish: Because they look nice and the average person isn't as obsessed with efficiency as you? :p
18:36.44CuttlefishUrban planning exists for a reason
18:36.50OfficerJackalWell, house plus property that went along with it.
18:36.53DrodoEmpireI'd go crazy if everybody was forced to live in tiny apartments
18:37.09DrodoEmpireYeah I get it. What I also get is if there's the ability to spread out I'd much prefer that
18:37.30DrodoEmpireMore open and peaceful, if not "logical". :p
18:37.34MonetWhe nI see LA's suburbs I can somewhat understand Cuttlefish's point http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2364698804_9fd150d561_b.jpg
18:37.40CuttlefishAll the american houses are far apart like "don't touch me i'll get house cooties"
18:37.51DrodoEmpireOf course I come from a place which is *very* rural
18:38.32DrodoEmpireThe USA and Canada are *huge* places. People have the luxury of spreading out that Europe doesn't have
18:38.44DrodoEmpireFind it silly or absurd, I can appreciate it
18:38.49CuttlefishWasting land isn't a luxury it's just stupid
18:39.00MonetCuttlefish: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2052/1587819531_49e9ddcb48.jpg
18:39.13DrodoEmpire"Wasting" land? Would you rather people live in the Kowloon walled city then?
18:39.14Cuttlefishsee that's how you make a neighborhood
18:39.27Cuttlefishwhat;s a kowloon?
18:39.53OfficerJackalWhat would you rather everyone do then? Not have a lawn or backyard for their houses? Live in apartments? I mean really, houses use up space.
18:39.56DrodoEmpirehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City - Its a *place*, and its your thinking taken to its ultimate extreme
18:40.55DrodoEmpireI have more concerns then "efficency" in mind as every normal human being does when it comes to a place to live. American houses take up space, yes, but their comfortable places to live for those who can afford them
18:41.06DrodoEmpire*North American houses
18:41.19CuttlefishNobody can afford them
18:41.24ImperiosI shall be honest, I am envious of American houses
18:41.33ImperiosYou guys have much more space and air to breathe
18:41.49DrodoEmpireWhich explains why people live in them regardless, hmm?
18:42.01ImperiosComing from a person who spent most of his childhood in a small room in a Soviet drom
18:42.17Imperios*Soviet block house
18:42.44CuttlefishMaybe the average person is just more claustrophobic than I am.
18:42.48DrodoEmpireThey are
18:42.56DrodoEmpireAnd they'd sooner not go insane in a tiny apartment
18:42.56ImperiosWhere did you live as a child?
18:43.03DrodoEmpireMe or Cuttlefish?
18:43.07ImperiosBoth
18:43.09DrodoEmpireAlright
18:43.23DrodoEmpireI always lived in a suburban or rural area. Which explains my line of thinking
18:43.34ImperiosAnd the cost is not that of a problem here: an expensive house block is a still a house block
18:43.34DrodoEmpireI enjoy going to cities but I couldn't imagine living in one for too long
18:43.39DrodoEmpireToo noisy and cramped
18:43.48dino82_:d
18:43.59CuttlefishI lived in the suburbs actually.
18:45.52CuttlefishI also don't like how big parking lots are. Cities are built around cars instead of people nowadays.
18:46.34ImperiosCuttlefish: See, you are used to suburb life
18:46.36MonetThat might be another American issue
18:47.23CuttlefishThe american highway system was the single most expensive megaproject in history.
18:47.24ImperiosYou do not appreciate what for you is a given, like a lot of empty space, several floors, the closeness of nature etc
18:47.45MonetEngland is very well-designed when it comes to public transport. It's buckling but to not have a car i nthe UK, while pricy, isn't too much of a handicap.
18:47.51DrodoEmpireImperios: Exactly
18:47.58CuttlefishI don't feel the need to be grateful for getting useless things.
18:48.04DrodoEmpireI like to think I'm a *bit* more self-aware in that regard, no offense
18:48.13DrodoEmpire"Useless"? You think such things are useless?
18:48.18CuttlefishYes
18:48.28DrodoEmpireSee, you miss the point
18:48.37CuttlefishI think we just have different points
18:48.49CuttlefishI understand what you're saying, I just disagree
18:49.11DrodoEmpireNo, your point is centered *entirely* around logic. Of course mathematically speaking building small dense apartments makes sense
18:49.29DrodoEmpireBut that disregards other factors such as the market for larger houses, and the wants and desires of people
18:49.41DrodoEmpireAnd the comfort value of a larger home closer to nature
18:49.54MonetCuttlefish: You don't like "wasted" space, other people prefer space.
18:50.02DrodoEmpireJust because *you* don't like it (because you've been exposed to it your whole life) doesn't mean others don't
18:50.17MonetThe idea of the suburb is the luxury of a hosue fit for the country close ot plenty of services.
18:50.30DrodoEmpireI've recently moved into a more urban area and I don't like it quite as much. I like the forest and the bigger home
18:51.21CuttlefishI understand the close to nature part, but urban sprawl removing said forest is part of why I dislike it.
18:51.28drom-sHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/TJohXAW.png
18:51.55DrodoEmpireIt doesn't always though
18:52.32DrodoEmpireI lived in a suburban neighbourhood, and honestly it seemed to coexist well with the surrounding forest. Just outside of a yard lot there was a forest, and every yard lot there was a house that was occupied by people
18:52.51DrodoEmpireGranted, Nova Scotia isn't densely populated but its a demonstration of how it can work well
18:52.51MonetPlant more trees.
18:52.54DrodoEmpire^
18:52.55DrodoEmpireThat too
18:53.03drom-sHachiman: Since all of them were present on the shuttle and are technically antagonists, eveyone jumped on each other
18:53.16MonetIf you have a problem with how barren American suburbds look, encourage more peopel ot plant trees.
18:53.21drom-sTurning the shuttle into a bloody mess
18:53.22CuttlefishI like the idea of connected housing where the rooves of the collective apartment complex are built like parks. A sort of massive roof garden
18:54.11ImperiosCuttlefish: BTW, do you mind that I made a Shellious character for the AGC/PAE?
18:54.34CuttlefishMind? Hell man I'm fecking flattered!!!!
18:54.38Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/45/Lord_Protector_Viabel_Shantis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160124230304 That
18:55.03CuttlefishOh my gosh man
18:55.31Cuttlefishawesome
18:57.10CuttlefishSo what role do they play in the fictionverse?
18:57.16MonetWOuld you two consider somewhere like this? https://imagesus-ssl.homeaway.com/mda01/be2b2cbc-4d03-463d-97ae-e971a2a8bbeb.1.10
18:57.44CuttlefishWow that's lovely
18:57.54DrodoEmpireIt looks rather nice
18:58.00dino82_oh the Lord protector looks very neat
18:58.15DrodoEmpireI *love* the look of it on the outside and doesn't seem all that densely-packed either
18:59.20MonetHow about this? http://norumbega.co.uk/img/almrow2.jpg
18:59.45DrodoEmpireAgain I love the look
18:59.50DrodoEmpireNot too sure though
18:59.58DrodoEmpirePossibly I might live in it
19:00.33CuttlefishSomething I like the idea of is square shaped housing complexes with courtyards in the middle so it feels less like a city.
19:00.43CuttlefishAlso you,know trees and stuff
19:01.58Monethttps://michaelwailes.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/albion-mews.jpg ?
19:02.16Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2651608174886356/ Fighting the Insomnolence like
19:02.43DrodoEmpireI like the look of that neighbourhood for sure
19:02.51ImperiosCuttlefish: This guy is like the new AGC's PM or something
19:02.53DrodoEmpireI'd appreciate a lawn of some sort but the outside look alone is quire nice
19:04.24MonetIt might be fair to say that the Engilish are very good at using and decorating space efficiently.
19:04.40CuttlefishIt's a smol island.
19:05.14MonetAnd London is in one of the flattest parts of the country
19:05.44OluapPlayerXho: Replacing it with a cockroach and that's me
19:06.01Monethttp://www.stanfords.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/016/0165806_coverage_1234086_lond1800_oldF_cov.jpeg this was the extent of Londo nin 1800.
19:06.04CuttlefishImperios' thing reminds me. I think at this point I should just say that the Shellious are now totally open game for anyone. I'm nowhere near as active anymore, so just do what you want with them
19:06.14ImperiosSince they are in the DI
19:06.24ImperiosAnd the DI is in the PAE
19:06.31ImperiosTHEY ARE OURS
19:06.34Imperioslaughs maniacally
19:06.43ImperiosThe Shellious are supposed to be small, right?
19:06.51MonetHuge
19:06.56MonetEdoshai was I think 4m tall.
19:07.26CuttlefishI don't really have a super canon idea about that tbh
19:07.43MonetLooking at this map is...interesting. As all of that empty space is now urban sprawl.
19:08.10OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: https://a.uguu.se/saidmh.webm when you're fultoning enemies and their friends notice it
19:08.25CuttlefishOk I put the average height of a shellious at around 2 meters
19:08.48Cuttlefishbut apparently very heavy i guess
19:14.03CuttlefishMonet and Imperios: I think I wanna move on to some other creation. Do either of you want control of this fic?
19:14.10ImperiosCuttlefish: We'll share it
19:14.25CuttlefishI;ll still be on the wiki though, so I'll try to work on it a little more
19:15.37ImperiosMaybe let the Frenchman collaborate too
19:17.55HachimanBack
19:17.58CuttlefishWhere is he anyway? Also didn't he change his username?
19:17.58HachimanWho beeped me?
19:18.25HachimanOh right drom
19:18.42CuttlefishWait dis you mean actually Hachi? I'm confuse
19:20.30ImperiosNo, CharleS_Murray
19:20.33ImperiosCharles_Murray
19:20.36ImperiosAnd he is actually here
19:22.05ImperiosHe's working with us on our new Andromedan project ^^
19:22.31Cuttlefishcool
19:25.46GhelIt would make sense for me to get Apalos involved the Milky Way reconstruction project that he's also having a very large part in.
19:26.00GhelAnd then there's that thing with the French Andromedan elections too.
19:30.22Cyrannianhttps://titanpad.com/jUX3bfg3Gr - Take a look errrbody
19:37.52drom-sHachiman: Yeah, I did
19:38.35dino82_NewKelvin-Class model: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:KelvinClassMkIIILarge.png
19:38.51DrodoEmpireOoh nice
19:40.43dino82_Thanks! :D
19:49.02dromHello, Cuttlefish. It was a while
19:49.35CuttlefishIt has. Time is big
19:52.05CuttlefishI don't think I know you that well drom how are you doing?
19:52.42dromQuitly slowly and I'm feeling like a train wreck. Otherwise I'm good.
19:53.10CuttlefishYeah I know the feeling. I prefer the term dead battery.
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19:54.16dromCuttlefish: Ironically, my phone battery is fully charged and my cochlear implants also have lot of charge in their batteries.
19:54.33dromSo I'm the one I need to charge
19:55.03dromLife is like a battery
19:55.39DrodoEmpire...You have to replace it when its usefulness has been extinguished?
19:55.47DrodoEmpireThat sounds like a bad life lesson, drom
19:55.47dromEverytime you charge up, it wears your capacity. Until you have too little capacity to continue serving your purpose.
19:56.46dromDrodoEmpire: I meant a rechargeable battery. Their life span is shortened by a fracture everytime they are charged.
19:57.18CuttlefishI usually just say something funny like "i'm too young to have this many pills" or something
19:57.45dromOur stamina diminsh as we age.
20:00.54HachimanSo according to one guy who has died twice for two minutes at a time before being brought back to life, one death from a motorcycle accident and another from a drug overdose, death is effectively like a dreamless sleep
20:01.41HachimanOh wait not too minutes
20:02.11HachimanOne death lasted 15 minutes before resuscitation
20:02.53dromHe described how was it like to be dead?
20:02.53CuttlefishMan who cares about that. Thinking about death is a waste of the time you have living.
20:03.07dromCuttlefish: Emos
20:03.58Cuttlefishhttps://xkcd.com/167/
20:11.12ImperiosHachiman: Clinical death is usually accompanied by hallucinations is it now
20:11.13Imperiosnot
20:16.05Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:209865 - Take a look
20:20.20dromPAE - the fux is dis
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20:28.40OluapPlayerImperios: Do you want to be part of the next fantasy story? Just so I can be sure
20:29.02ImperiosYours or Xho's?
20:29.19OluapPlayerBoth. My next story is a sequel to Xho's
20:29.33OluapPlayerIt involves the good guy team going against the Lympharians
20:30.26ImperiosRite I'll think about it
20:30.33ImperiosI am not sure if my contribution is worthwhile
20:30.54dino82_Have to go, bye bye!
20:31.02OluapPlayerIt's your choice. I'm asking to make sure you're not shoved into it against your will
20:31.37ImperiosOf course
20:31.46ImperiosXho OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xiivon_Alliance Wait what is this
20:31.59OluapPlayerYou've never seen that?
20:32.04XhoSomething I don't remember very well
20:32.05OluapPlayerThat's Jo's evil SSA
20:32.12OluapPlayerShe created that like over 5 years ago
20:33.11OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:One_Thousand_Horns have preview
20:33.13ImperiosAbout what you said regarding the SSA, the way I see it
20:33.40ImperiosThe SSA could be more of a military alliance led by mainstream good guys
20:33.48ImperiosAs I said, space NATO
20:34.22Cuttlefishsnato
20:34.49ImperiosThen there'd be some alliance - could easily be called Xiivon - made out of factions that, while aligned with this union thingie, oppose SSA expansion and wish to revise galactic relationships in their favour - rogue states basically
20:34.58ImperiosLike you know how Russia and Iran are bros
20:35.06OluapPlayerTalk to Jo about it, she's the owner of Xiivon
20:35.18ImperiosWell the idea concerns all users s
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20:35.20Imperiossort of
20:35.46OluapPlayerAlso I've renamed the Lymp Collective into "Cult of the Eclipse". Mainly because Lympharians are actually a minority in the faction, and the name sounds too sci-fi for them
20:36.03OluapPlayerThey're an evil religion, they gotta have an evil religion name
20:36.50ImpyDroidCollective sounded a tad sci fi yeah
20:37.12Charles_MurrayImpyDroid the current setup actually has it that the rogue states aren't joining the Alliance
20:37.17Charles_MurrayAnd France would look to bar them from it
20:37.53HachimanIf you wanna show the Lympharians as a minority in the faction, there should be other notable characters in the Cult of the Eclipse aside from Tibias
20:37.55OluapPlayersilly humans think they have a say in anythin
20:38.00OluapPlayeronly say they have is in being food
20:38.08Cuttlefishhey for the real un switzerland didn't even join till 2008
20:38.25MonetSOmething like that
20:38.58MonetUntil the late 2000's the UN assemble was far from total.
20:39.10Monetfro ma total representation*
20:39.25Cuttlefishtechnically it's still not total
20:40.19HachimanLike, Tibias should have his own serfs and such
20:40.30HachimanI recall him having his own personal individual minions once
20:40.56OluapPlayerCzaranis had minions
20:41.00OluapPlayerTibias never had any
20:41.41Monethttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/United_Nations_Members.svg according to this map, the only nation who isn't represented is the disputed territory of the Western Sahara
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20:42.54Wormy_hi
20:43.25CyrannianHai
20:44.34Cuttlefishkosovo
20:44.51MonetOh yeah
20:45.06GhelHello.
20:45.09Cuttlefishand taiwan technically cause china keeps veoting it whenever they try to join
20:45.41MonetIts' coverage is almost total.
20:47.41Wormy_That feel when you have bought tomorrow's train ticket to university and then get told you don't have to come in tomorrow if you have lots of writing to do.
20:49.49dromouch
20:51.28Comrade_VinnyMoent: Palestine too
20:52.02MonetComrade_Vinny: Hence "almost total"
20:52.47Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdpQo3tRPLY
20:53.00MonetCompare the lsit of current exceptions to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#/media/File:UN_Member_Countries_World.svg
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20:54.30Xhoew
21:00.50GhelWormy_: Although it seems the original "Eternity in Six Hours" paper is no longer open-access, http://aleph.se/andart2/space/what-is-the-natural-timescale-for-making-a-dyson-shell/ is a detailed enough look at, well, what the link says.
21:02.23Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Sdqcjvw
21:02.27Wormy_has a read
21:08.33Wormy_I think it could be a resource for estimating industry/projects in the tier scale
21:09.03Wormy_For the most part, big projects like this are assumed to happen fairly quickly
21:09.33Wormy_But much quicker than even a multi-century scale (unless we want to be really rigorous about it)
21:14.38Wormy_Now I'm reading http://aleph.se/andart2/megascale/starkiller-base-versus-the-ideal-gas-law/
21:16.38Wormy_the idea of using stars as bullets was visited in the Xeelee Sequence...
21:18.00Wormy_If Starkiller base works by compressing a star into a neutron star and then accelerating it, and you think that's extreme; in Flux, tiny artificial humans lived on the surface
21:18.20Wormy_of a neutron star fired at the Xeelee
21:18.46MonetThere's a novelisation that covers how Starkiller Base works
21:19.10Wormy_Yeah, I read on Wookipedia.  But accelerated neutron star sounds much more my thing
21:20.15Wormy_The problem of course (as mentioned), is recoil
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21:20.31Wormy_hi
21:21.28Wormy_"If the First Order want me to consult on their next (undoubtedly even more ambitious) project I am open for offers. However, one iron-clad condition given recent history is that I get to work from home, as far away as possible from the superweapon. Ideally in a galaxy far, far away."
21:23.57MonetMy advice to the First Order: Death Stars are money sinks
21:24.14MonetHisotry has proven you only get one good shot before the bases are destroyed.
21:27.53Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/vp5gGoo
21:29.18MonetI see Jeff-uh-Goldbloom's famous quote
21:33.19Cyrannian_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Ezduiin_Incident - Pictures coming soon
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21:37.15OluapPlayeryus, check that
21:41.34Wormy_Ghel, drom: http://imgur.com/gallery/dYsm8N8
21:41.54dromSeen
21:43.34Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/MupfIoD
21:53.19ImpyDroid"The Overseer should be assimilated. His knowledge will add to ou-"
21:53.30ImpyDroidDear Lord I love this guy's line of thinking
21:54.57ImpyDroidOh god this guy's lines are pure gold
21:56.38Cyrannian_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Selanius - I should work on his page
21:58.42OluapPlayerew empty paeg
22:00.56Cyrannian_Nightie night
22:11.04dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/T4eEsaT.jpg
22:18.31TechnobliteratorSo, urm, I don't suppose there's a chance for this new universal alliance to go to war with the Loron :o
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22:19.25OluapPlayerI don't think that's its point
22:19.28MonetTechnobliterator: SInce it's more of a collection of nations, it already is
22:19.58TechnobliteratorI don't get its point, is it like, a new SSA? ?_?
22:20.19MonetMore like a space UN
22:21.03TechnobliteratorWas the SSA not like a space UN?
22:21.28MonetIt was a bit more singular in its operation
22:22.00MonetRemember the United Nations has both North Korea and SOuth Korea as members
22:22.21MonetAnd those two both hate and fear each other
22:23.48TechnobliteratorI would rather give a canon reason for the SSA to be dead, then
22:24.19OluapPlayerSimple: it's not
22:24.33OluapPlayerIt's only dead out of universe because people don't use it
22:24.37MonetThe current SSA has no authority.
22:25.12OluapPlayerIt's not going to get any until people use it
22:25.14MonetIt took a hit when a few members didn't want to be associated with the Cyrannian Empire.
22:25.28OluapPlayerThe SSA is dead because of user apathy
22:25.48TechnobliteratorIndeed, I would rather provide a canon reason for it to be dissolved
22:26.09Technobliteratorrather than simply leave the out of universe reason
22:26.15XhoXhodocto - point to angazhar
22:26.28OluapPlayerAngazhar gave it existence, not the other way around
22:26.48MonetNo Xho has a point
22:26.59OluapPlayerDestroying the SSA is not an option
22:27.11XhoDidn't say it was Angazhar destroying it
22:27.17XhoJust a point to Angazhar because it dissolves
22:27.20MonetIt started losing its purpose once the Xhodocto and their lackeys cut down on their rape and pillage of the universe
22:27.38OluapPlayerBut they didn't. That's still going strong
22:27.42Technobliteratorno, not really
22:27.47Technobliteratorthe SSA never had anything to do with the WoA
22:27.54MonetNot as much as before.
22:28.15Xhoy u no understand hypothetical speech
22:28.20OluapPlayerThe Corruptus's activity has remained constant since their introduction
22:28.25Technobliteratora few members who happened to be SSA members were involved in the WoA
22:28.38Technobliteratorbut it was Onuris that was the alliance in the WoA
22:28.47TechnobliteratorThe SSA actually predates the WoA, I'm fairly sure
22:28.51XhoI dunno why the Onuris got rolled into the SSA
22:28.59XhoDoesn't make sense to me
22:29.06TechnobliteratorIt was the first time fictions collaborated, but not the first story
22:29.13OluapPlayerI wouldn't know since that predates me
22:29.17XhoThe Pax Infinitus is the newer incarnation of Onuris in a spiritual sense
22:29.29TechnobliteratorYeah, I think it was my idea, and it didn't work out at all
22:29.34Monet"I dunno why the Onuris got rolled into the SSA" > that's probably the source of my confusion
22:29.41Wormy_SSA brought fictions WoAs
22:29.41OluapPlayercus ur ideas are poop
22:29.49Technobliteratorya mom
22:29.49Wormy_*brought fictions into
22:30.02XhoYeah the SSA predates the Xhodocto/War of Ages
22:30.16OluapPlayerafaik the SSA's original purpose was fighting the Grox
22:30.18OluapPlayerand vandals
22:30.24OluapPlayerwhich is silly, because vandalism is not a game
22:30.26XhoXhodocto - u want vandal          u got vandal
22:30.36Wormy_I still see that as the true origin of the SporeWikiverse, a child of WoA and SSA as parents
22:31.04OluapPlayerSSA and WoA had a really kinky night together, you could say it was a big bang
22:31.05TechnobliteratorHey, there can be funny vandalism
22:31.17CyrannianI think we should revive the SSA, it's a fixture of the wiki
22:31.17OluapPlayerYour face is funny vandalism, it's still shit
22:31.22Technobliterator;_;
22:31.24Wormy_Perhaps the SSA finally sucummbed to Vandals.
22:31.27TechnobliteratorNo, I think we should kill the SSA off
22:31.34OluapPlayerCyrannian: Aren't you meant to be asleep?
22:31.37TechnobliteratorNo one's going to ever be interested in it again
22:31.40OluapPlayerAlso rude much, I was waiting to rp
22:32.03XhoI think we should dissolve the SSA personally
22:32.24Wormy_Dissolve the SSa, but keep Station Halcyon as a legacy
22:32.26XhoEspecially after the whole GXS fiasco it wouldn't have a solid basis anyway
22:32.31CyrannianI have to get up at 7:30 tomorrow and my connection was going cray
22:32.55HachimanI get up at 7:30 or earlier on college days and I stay up until like midnight
22:33.01HachimanWell I say midnight, sometimes earlier
22:33.14Xho6:55 for work go fuk urselves
22:33.15OluapPlayerYeah but you're an awful person who keeps whining about how tired you are
22:33.23OluapPlayerYou have no say whatsoever
22:33.24HachimanBecause I am tired
22:33.35OluapPlayerFuck off and DIE
22:33.46Xho12 to 7:30 is still a decent-ish sleep
22:33.48Wormy_I get up at 6:30 in order to get to uni on time
22:33.50CyrannianThis is escalating
22:34.05HachimanI wish Portugal gets into another military dictatorship
22:34.10HachimanNo wait
22:34.10Xhowat
22:34.11HachimanBrazil
22:34.12Wormy_Liquid_Ink is my only company that early
22:34.14Xhodouble wat
22:34.19Xhoangkor wat
22:34.25Wormy_Good company
22:34.42XhoI need to prep up the Dominion again
22:34.47Xhowiki gettin 2 peaceful 4 dis shit
22:34.48MonetQuite the derailment
22:34.51Technobliteratoroft
22:34.52Technobliteratorpft
22:34.56OluapPlayerNo you don't, you need to go work on Dragon Speaker
22:35.01Xhofu
22:35.05Technobliteratorthe Loron are already going to completely destroy the peaceful era
22:35.05CyrannianBut I thought it was canon that the SSA kerploded when Halcyon B kerploded
22:35.08XhoI do though
22:35.31MonetThough I wonder: Isn't the MCA a kind of new SSA?
22:35.41XhoI was going to do Dragon Speaker then that was the day I learned my friend died so it kind of destroyed the vibe
22:35.55OluapPlayer"he stopped speaking"
22:35.57MonetLike some sort of spiritual successor
22:36.18OluapPlayerOkay that was kinda mean, sorry
22:36.30XhoYou're talking to me
22:36.36CyrannianThat's one way to look at it
22:36.36XhoDo you think mean is an easy feat hur
22:36.42OluapPlayerI apologize anyway cus im polite
22:36.44OluapPlayerunlike u cunt
22:36.48Xhofuk off
22:37.26XhoDoes need more Dominion though
22:37.32XhoWiki's gone too long without 'PURGE UNIVERSE'
22:37.33MonetTHat's not very polite
22:37.36OluapPlayerRegardless, we should probably put an end to the SSA because let's be frank, we're gonna have it die again
22:37.41TechnobliteratorI concur
22:37.50TechnobliteratorThis new organisation will probably be better
22:37.53OluapPlayerXho: we go back and finish tantum
22:37.57MonetI'm not denying it's already dead.
22:38.02Technobliteratorit's basically a group of all the galactic wide alliances at this point
22:38.03Xhodat 2 much 2 ask
22:38.10Technobliteratorlike PAE and the new Milky Way one
22:38.15Technobliteratorand I assume PCA?
22:39.02OluapPlayerIf you're asking if the PCA will be part of space!UN, yes they will
22:39.19OluapPlayerBecause I should preferably stop isolating myself from the rest of the fictionverse
22:39.35TechnobliteratorI don't feel like you're that isolated
22:39.48OluapPlayerI am. I've become isolated at Borealis
22:39.59OluapPlayerMy only fiction outside of that is at Cyrannus
22:40.18MonetMore interaction.
22:40.26OluapPlayeris difficult
22:40.28TechnobliteratorThat's why I said you're not that isolated because you have fiction in Cyrannus
22:40.41OluapPlayerdunt giv me your butts and iffs
22:40.46TechnobliteratorI'm probably the most isolated person in fiction now that I have no UNO anymore
22:40.48Technobliterator;_;
22:40.49Technobliterator;___;
22:40.58OluapPlayerur own fault cause you won't work on your fiction
22:41.04MonetOkay going on about "no more UNO" is starting ot get boring
22:41.14XhoNot sure whether the Kicath will approve of the UGA
22:41.33OluapPlayerKicath - ew, they're doing diplomacy
22:41.38Technobliteratorbit rude
22:42.25Hachimanuga buga where all da white chicks at
22:42.28MonetYou bring it up every single time like you need to constantly remind us you can't use UNO anymore.
22:42.37MonetWe get it!
22:42.43DrodoEmpireWhy are you mad, Monet?
22:42.52HachimanDude chill the fuck out
22:42.53OluapPlayerYou say a lot of boring things. You don't see me calling you out for it
22:42.56DrodoEmpireDoes anybody know why he's mad... I don't get it
22:42.57TechnobliteratorMonet, if you wanted me to list every single gripe I had with users here, I would ._.
22:43.08XhoMy main gripe with everyone is that THEY ALL EXIST
22:43.12DrodoEmpireWe're all aloud to blab on about stuff
22:43.13TechnobliteratorI don't do that
22:43.26XhoBut seriously everyone chill the fuck out before
22:43.34XhoOh wait I'm not admin anymore, bugger
22:43.37Xhonevermind
22:43.38OluapPlayerbefore, not after
22:43.47TechnobliteratorI literally just say it because I'm so used to having them around
22:43.53Technobliteratorand then keep remembering
22:43.59Xhocuz u dum
22:44.00DrodoEmpireI don't presume everybody appreciates my droning on about history or the Drodo but I'm glad people share the common courtesy not to tell me to shut up
22:44.02Xhodum dum dum
22:44.07Technobliteratorya mom
22:44.09Xhou
22:44.43XhoPlot twist: Dominion joins Space!UN
22:44.57Wormy_Lets just calm down, remember we are writing on a screen so all the chances of misjudgement are there.
22:44.59MonetTechno: I know, this wasn't polite of me.
22:45.01TechnobliteratorPlot twist: Rogue Boyz join Space!UN
22:45.10Xhoplot twist no pizza
22:45.16OluapPlayerDominion - YOU'RE ALL EMBARGO'D                    what do you mean you already embargo'd us
22:45.19TechnobliteratorRogue Boyz leave then
22:45.27MonetHearing the same thing over and over gets on my nerves sometimes.
22:45.28Technobliteratorand just destroy it
22:45.30XhoHez - no hay          equals ay
22:45.34Xhonay*
22:45.57TechnobliteratorLots of things get on my nerves. I don't yell at people for it or try to single them out. I just phase out and stop looking at the channel.
22:46.10MonetI think WOrmy was right
22:46.18MonetI'm not furious actually.
22:46.26Wormy_I'm sure Monet's comment was misplaced on poor judgement and not malicious
22:46.55MonetI didn't mean to sound like I blew my top.
22:47.10XhoWhatever happened to that Endless Space fiction
22:47.14Wormy_For example, its the first Time I've heard this "No UNO I'm lonely" stuff, its all a matter of perspective
22:47.15TechnobliteratorIt's honestly the main reason I rarely am around anymore
22:47.36HachimanMonet: Then be conscious of how much you talk about Uriel and the Imperium because whenever the topic of fiction comes up, you almost immediately bring them up
22:47.40OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure Wormy is gonna do that later
22:47.48OluapPlayerAfter he gets over his dying hand
22:48.05XhoNeeds more Dominion intervention
22:48.08CyrannianDino and I wrote a chapter last week
22:48.10Technobliteratorthat I very frequently check the channel, find the same depressing topics about politics and ethnics and whatnot, just sigh and check a different channel
22:48.11Xhodying hand what
22:48.18OluapPlayerDominion - guys pls don't make us fire the hyperlasers
22:48.22Wormy_My hand is going to need injections, sadly
22:48.28Wormy_I have developed RSI
22:48.29HachimanWait what
22:48.45XhoYou need to learn a muscial instrument or something
22:48.45HachimanOh right for a moment I thought Wormy was a bigger achiever than I was
22:48.52XhoKeep the fingers flexible
22:48.53OluapPlayerkek
22:49.01XhoNo Hachi, no one can top you
22:49.19XhoOr be worse than you, I dunno how it works
22:49.22HachimanI incapacitated my thumb for three days once
22:49.33Wormy_Too much computer use.  It is why I am "Wormydroid" all the time and stopped doing almost anything on the wiki.  At least until I reach my deadlines,both of which are computer intensive.
22:49.33MonetHachiman: I did suspect. But the DI is really the only active fiction I have.
22:49.37Technobliteratorouch
22:49.43OluapPlayerUse your other things then
22:49.52OluapPlayerYou have more than the DI. Develop your other fiction
22:49.55HachimanI cannot exactly put my dick in my asshole
22:49.56TechnobliteratorYeah, well, UNO was the only active fiction I had, and I got rid of it
22:50.01HachimanOh right you meant Monet
22:50.01Wormy_Hachi:  Yeah my middle fingers get locked together
22:50.11OluapPlayerWhat the fuck hur
22:50.13Technobliteratorwhich is exactly why I was so used to having them
22:50.25XhoWhat the
22:50.33XhoWhere the hell did that conversation go
22:50.44OluapPlayerInto Hachi's asshole apparently
22:50.49HachimanFucking kek
22:50.54XhoAs it normally does
22:50.59Technobliterator.___.
22:51.03Xhohoh get rekt
22:51.04MonetOluapPlayer: I guess I gorget about them sometimes.
22:51.05CyrannianThe best place it could go
22:51.13Technobliterator.________.
22:51.15HachimanOh my God
22:51.18Monetforget*
22:51.29OluapPlayerolol
22:52.32TechnobliteratorIn a few week's time, I'm planning on starting the new everyone vs Loron fiction
22:52.35Technobliteratoranyone wanna join in :o
22:52.56XhoI would naturally
22:52.56OluapPlayerSure why not
22:53.09Wormy_Give me a couple of weeks, yeah
22:53.10TechnobliteratorI think the Dominion can side with the Loron just to fuck with everyone
22:53.11CyrannianI've never been involved in a Loron fiction, so ermagerd sure
22:53.22Technobliterator^.^
22:53.26XhoI don't think Hez would lower himself to the Loron's level hur
22:53.36XhoI gotta stop using hur
22:53.42OluapPlayerHez - hez
22:53.47Wormy_Hue do
22:53.49TechnobliteratorI was going to suggest Santorakh would, but well, Mad'Hatta wouldn't
22:54.03XhoSantorakh probably would find some amusement out of it
22:54.05OluapPlayerSantorakh doesn't have to make sense
22:54.23XhoMost of Santorakh's character comes from the fact that he never makes sense
22:55.19XhoAs for Mad'Hatta, well
22:55.55GhelIt makes sense to have Apalos throw some ships into the war effort. Whether I'll have any characters I can't be sure.
22:55.56OluapPlayerMad'Hatta - YOO DONT LOOK LIKE ALICE TA ME *explodes planet*
22:55.58XhoSantorakh does have absolute power over Mad'Hatta so he could potentially side with the Rogue Boyz on Santorakh's command
22:56.26XhoThough Santorakh's command is more like a polite request addled with cheese
22:56.51OluapPlayerSantorakh - go there and take some cheese otherwise i'll flail you and feed you to volim's third hole
22:57.00XhoMad'Hatta - plz no
22:58.08XhoSantorakh's words would be something along the likes of "Go and pay a visit to your wonderfully TRAITOROUS cousins, but of course, play nice. And perhaps introduce them to some actual FRESH CHEESE to put on those delicious contraptions of food of theirs! Oh, and feel free to eat as many mortals as you want. You're a growing boy after all."
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22:59.12Cyrannianhttps://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/693724337598283776 "Only half your thoughts?"
22:59.40OluapPlayerhur
23:00.03Wormy_top comment "@David_Cameron My thoughts are that it's a bit weird how you fucked a dead pig in the ass to make people like you."
23:00.28XhoI thought it was in the mouth
23:00.33Xhoeh whatever he fucked a pig
23:00.45HachimanIt was in the mouth
23:00.51HachimanThat person is misinformed
23:01.01CyrannianI'm going to report him
23:01.13Xhowow.avi
23:01.44XhoI dunno how well Mad'Hatta would cooperate with the Rogue Boyz though
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23:03.45Cyrannianhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaFS4eWUsAAATSc.jpg:large
23:04.04OluapPlayerolol
23:04.32Technobliteratorgiven how Billig is
23:04.41Technobliteratorthere is plenty of him to go around
23:04.42XhoThe Rogue Boyz might see Mad'Hatta as a 'Gratz wannabe dumbo'
23:05.18TechnobliteratorHonestly, after they took out both Gratz'kaoz and Zr'Ahgloth, they have no reason to be scared of anyone anymore
23:05.27Hachimantfw 2011 was four years ago
23:05.34OluapPlayer5
23:05.40HachimanOh God
23:06.35Technobliteratorwhat happened in 2011
23:06.48XhoHell I dunno
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23:07.17CyrannianGreat Cyrannus War was in 2011 I think
23:07.44OluapPlayerThe original Fog War
23:08.02Cyrannianhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZpB_gHW0AEJOLt.jpg:large - Erissare as a newborn
23:08.31XhoSantorakh - gtfo
23:09.39OluapPlayerErissare - the egg may have left my mother with a hole in it
23:27.28OluapPlayerand so dies the IRC
23:28.01DrodoEmpire>:
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