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| 00:07.39 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 00:08.33 | Technobliterator | hi random |
| 00:35.24 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 01:08.44 | Tybusen | Did everyone go to sleep? |
| 01:08.56 | The_Randomness | No clue |
| 01:09.00 | The_Randomness | It was like this when I got here |
| 01:11.37 | DrodoEmpire | No i'm still here |
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| 01:12.45 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 01:12.49 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 01:13.01 | Wormy_ | Finally level 60 in STO. |
| 01:13.05 | The_Randomness | Nice |
| 01:13.14 | Tybusen | I'm pretty proud of the poses I got for some of the new character models I made recently |
| 01:13.19 | Tybusen | Also congrats Wormy_ |
| 01:32.58 | Tybusen | I've come to the realization that a vast majority of my characters are at least hundreds of years old |
| 01:34.14 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - retirement age too high over there smh |
| 01:36.34 | Tybusen | Like I'd say most of the TIAF's senior staff were already in service for a war that happened nearly 100 years ago |
| 01:36.59 | Tybusen | And a good chunk of them were already at a high-rank position like Admiral or General by then |
| 01:41.00 | Tybusen | Makes me think of how ironic it was how the Draconis thought TIAF commanders were so young and brash when they fought in the Andromeda War |
| 01:41.16 | Tybusen | Though I guess to be fair, Tzena was the main TIAF commander in that war and she's barely over 50 years old |
| 01:43.45 | DrodoEmpire | True |
| 01:45.41 | Tybusen | Funny to think though that some of those Draconid commanders that were boasting about how they were conquering empires long before Tzena was even born, that some of them were probably infants themselves when some of the TIAF commanders were conquering empires |
| 02:13.27 | Tybusen | If I were to design a poison-tipped sword, I'd totally use mercury as the poison |
| 02:13.40 | Tybusen | I don't know if that's actually a good idea though |
| 02:13.47 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:209554#20 |
| 02:14.36 | DrodoEmpire | Tyb: Big question is how to maintain the poison. |
| 02:15.00 | DrodoEmpire | Do you dip it in poison before a fight? If so, it'd wear off pretty quickly |
| 02:15.23 | DrodoEmpire | Trying to make a sword out of part-mercury wouldn't work for many reasons, either |
| 02:15.34 | DrodoEmpire | Either way I think swords are plenty lethal on their own. XD |
| 02:16.06 | Tybusen | Yeah, but a mercury-steeped sword pretty much guarantees a hit will be killer, no matter how little contact there is |
| 02:16.17 | DrodoEmpire | Still, I know the Chinese often dipped their crossbow bolts in poison, particularly the bolts in their repeating crossbows |
| 02:16.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... But again most of it would run off just by letting it sit, and swinging it around would spray everywhere including on yourself |
| 02:16.52 | Tybusen | I'd imagine a cool futuristic sword using biotech that allows it to keep a mercury film on it |
| 02:16.52 | The_Randomness | Or you could just put your arrows or whatever in the dirt |
| 02:17.00 | DrodoEmpire | Also- What if you accidentily nick yourself or an ally? |
| 02:17.16 | Tybusen | Well naturally that's a risk that comes with using it |
| 02:17.35 | Tybusen | If you're feeling particularly arrogant or flashy though, then you really don't pay much regard to collateral or risks |
| 02:18.47 | DrodoEmpire | And again swords are already *really* lethal; Especially considering the fact that for most of the time they were used as combat weapons any major or even moderately-sized wound would become infected and kill them anyway |
| 02:19.01 | DrodoEmpire | Also on the subject of mercury |
| 02:19.13 | DrodoEmpire | I don't think its as effective a poison you think it is. :p |
| 02:19.14 | Tybusen | I say this mainly because I've included a mercury-tipped sword with Admiral Khoffman's design, and he's the kind of guy who would love a weapon that could do that |
| 02:19.26 | DrodoEmpire | Like it'll kill... Eventually. |
| 02:19.34 | Tybusen | I was thinking more like dimethyl mercury rather than straight up mercury |
| 02:19.45 | DrodoEmpire | Takes more than a few milligrams at most from a glancing blow from a sabre |
| 02:20.18 | DrodoEmpire | The Qin Emperor took mercury pills for *years* before dying- That said he went crazy well beforehand |
| 02:20.27 | Tybusen | Dimethyl mercury is nasty stuff that can bleed right through cloth (let alone skin) and I'd imagine a lot of it at once would probably kill you |
| 02:20.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah a lot of it |
| 02:20.37 | DrodoEmpire | But again |
| 02:21.05 | DrodoEmpire | A sword wouldn't be able to keep enough on a blade for a lethal dose I don't think |
| 02:21.30 | Tybusen | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury |
| 02:21.42 | DrodoEmpire | It may make them very sick, but I don't think a few milligrams being brushed-off into a wound would kill in any time that is quick |
| 02:22.21 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, so it is quite potent |
| 02:22.40 | DrodoEmpire | Still, what time period are we talking here? |
| 02:22.55 | Tybusen | Modern Gigaquadrant |
| 02:23.06 | Tybusen | I know it's not really effective at all in the modern Gigaquadrant |
| 02:23.14 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, so no problem in synthesizing it |
| 02:23.28 | Tybusen | Yeah, no problems with synthesizing |
| 02:23.33 | DrodoEmpire | It'd make for a novel psychological weapon |
| 02:23.49 | Tybusen | Yeah, that's the thing I was going for |
| 02:24.35 | Tybusen | Khoffman calls his mercury saber "Dainsleif" after the mythological Norse sword that was said to kill a man every time it was unsheathed |
| 02:25.29 | Tybusen | Fitting name for a sword that he'll probably draw for a killing blow |
| 02:26.10 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:26.31 | Tybusen | I guess it's not as much of a problem for how it refreshes its mercury film since he doesn't use it as a primary weapon, he just uses it as a flashy finish again someone who's vulnerable to its effects |
| 02:27.00 | Tybusen | The sword's sheath could probably include a mechanism that gives it a fresh film when it's drawn |
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| 02:30.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hi. |
| 02:31.28 | Tybusen | Well then. |
| 02:31.46 | DrodoEmpire | shrugs |
| 02:41.33 | DrodoEmpire | brb |
| 02:42.13 | Wormy_ | Goodnight |
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| 02:53.07 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 03:00.44 | Tybusen | Hello there |
| 03:06.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 03:07.00 | DrodoEmpire | Also, don't worry, I *will* respond. >.< |
| 03:13.37 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Alexander_Khoffman If you want to get a *very* rough look at the guy who uses the mercury sword |
| 03:14.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I saw earlier |
| 03:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | Looks fairly interesting |
| 03:15.08 | Tybusen | he's old as balls |
| 03:16.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... Seems so |
| 03:16.09 | Tybusen | I think Khoffman's appearance becomes a little funnier when you remember that underneath all that threatening armor is a cute-looking bird |
| 03:16.20 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:16.32 | DrodoEmpire | To be fair the Drodo aren't much better |
| 03:19.01 | DrodoEmpire | Many wear flamboyant, impressive uniforms, and many of their *cops* carry around swords. Still for humanoids at least they're sorta adorable :p |
| 03:20.17 | DrodoEmpire | No doubt to at least some Drodo's dismay when dealing with tourists |
| 03:21.28 | Tybusen | The Asgord show up and start petting all of them |
| 03:21.46 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod |
| 03:23.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... I imagine petting or contact in common petting areas would be considered something intimate or even sexual in most Drodo cultures. To be fair, Drodo are infamously casual and open when it comes to that sort of thing |
| 03:23.34 | DrodoEmpire | Still, probably wouldn't appreciate it out of nowhere |
| 03:24.45 | Tybusen | Especially not from a species with the cultural understanding of a mosquito |
| 03:25.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:27.37 | DrodoEmpire | Aw, now I want a fiction between Asgord and Drodo. XD |
| 03:27.44 | DrodoEmpire | At the same time Irsk is gone |
| 03:28.08 | DrodoEmpire | And considering how the last time I talked to him turned out... Good riddance. |
| 03:28.09 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 03:28.38 | DrodoEmpire | His fiction's pretty unique, old-school. Not a fan of him as a person though if I'm to be honest |
| 03:29.39 | Tybusen | I think that's fair |
| 03:29.55 | Tybusen | I wasn't personally bothered by him but I can see why people came to dislike him |
| 03:30.21 | DrodoEmpire | I didn't mind him at first either, I remember defending him back when I was an idiot |
| 03:30.22 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 03:30.43 | Tybusen | His fiction was very unique and it's a shame that it's essentially dead in the water |
| 03:30.55 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:31.17 | DrodoEmpire | I sorta wish someone could inherit it, but nobody really talks to him much anymore |
| 03:31.24 | DrodoEmpire | Did he even leave a will or anything? |
| 03:34.18 | Tybusen | Monet tried doing a revamping of it, but it's been an abandoned project for years now |
| 03:35.39 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh... |
| 03:35.46 | DrodoEmpire | So its fallen into his ownership? |
| 03:36.17 | DrodoEmpire | Something I should probably know really, I talk to Monet daily. >.< |
| 03:36.45 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, I'd *love* to help revamp Irsk's fiction, but seeing as we personally dislike eachother it seems like it'd be such a slap to the face |
| 03:37.28 | Tybusen | I have no idea if Irsk even cares any more |
| 03:37.38 | Tybusen | At least, as to what happens to his fiction on the Wiki |
| 03:37.44 | DrodoEmpire | He has a passing interest in the fictionverse |
| 03:37.51 | DrodoEmpire | He's observed the Xonexi Schism, for example |
| 03:37.57 | DrodoEmpire | He lurks... :p |
| 03:47.54 | Tybusen | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Misael_Tanyan Here's another old veteran admiral and also Khoffman's wife |
| 03:49.13 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting |
| 03:50.50 | Tybusen | Tanyan used to be a pretty flat "nice person" character, though the new Tanyan is more like a "stern mom" sort of character |
| 03:52.14 | DrodoEmpire | Oh nice |
| 03:53.27 | Tybusen | Though there's still the contrast between her and Khoffman since Khoffman is a boisterous grump while Tanyan is pretty professional while on the job |
| 03:54.38 | DrodoEmpire | Right, naturally |
| 03:55.27 | Tybusen | I think I also decided that Khoffman and Tanyan getting married was a big step forward for the Interspecies movement in the TIAF |
| 03:55.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ohfor sure |
| 03:55.59 | DrodoEmpire | I sorta wonder about interspecies marriage in the Drodo Empire actually |
| 03:56.18 | Tybusen | I guess that would be one of the big social questions of a multi-species interstellar society |
| 03:56.42 | Tybusen | I feel like it would mirror the modern LGBT movement somewhat closely |
| 03:56.47 | DrodoEmpire | I figure that having sexual relationships with those of other species isn't frowned upon (no sex is frowned upon by Drodo to be fair) |
| 03:57.04 | DrodoEmpire | Though marriage may be opposed a bit by virtue of Drodo family structure |
| 03:57.19 | DrodoEmpire | *Hugely* organized, and numerous members. |
| 03:57.42 | DrodoEmpire | That being said, if such a marriage is profitable to the two families involved they may not be opposed to arranging one |
| 03:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | And i at least one area Drodo-French Human marriage has become common- On the border between the Drodo and French Quadrant Colonies |
| 03:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | To the point where a hybrid culture and a new cultural identity has sprung up with startling rapidity |
| 03:58.52 | Tybusen | I'd imagine the Interspecies movement would have a lot more traction if you have more species in your nation |
| 03:58.58 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally |
| 03:59.21 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo Empire is pretty homogeneous on the mainland but its a different story in the Colonies |
| 03:59.37 | DrodoEmpire | All and all the Drodo don't much care though |
| 04:00.01 | DrodoEmpire | They're too busy hating eachother on the basis of race and ethnicity to hate eachother by the basis of sexual orientation, too. |
| 04:02.18 | Tybusen | The TIAF has a pretty good track record with interspecies relations on the surface, though with a lot of the species that joined the Federation via subjugation rather than choice, there's still a bit of a racial divide there |
| 04:02.25 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 04:02.50 | DrodoEmpire | The Empire is *incredibly* ethnically diverse in general, and not all of the groups of people like eachother very much which can be cause for conflict |
| 04:03.08 | DrodoEmpire | That being said, such tension is among Drodo ethnic groups almost exclusively |
| 04:03.31 | DrodoEmpire | They're generally accepting of alien culture and traditions, so long as it doesn't contradict or threaten theirs |
| 04:03.42 | Tybusen | The TIAF does have recurring problems especially among the descendants of the Erionians who were conquered during the Erion Wars |
| 04:03.49 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
| 04:04.16 | Tybusen | The Tuunk in particular are the largest of that group and they've made all kinds of pushes to regain some form of sovereignty |
| 04:05.11 | Tybusen | They have received a special autonomous status for their former core worlds but their efforts will keep getting hampered by memories of past violent movements and any other violence that comes in the future |
| 04:05.55 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 04:06.17 | Tybusen | I sorta based them off of Palestine |
| 04:06.19 | DrodoEmpire | The two largest minorities in the Empire that demand further rights/sovreignty are the nomadic peoples and the Borderlanders (Franco-Drodo peoples) |
| 04:07.56 | DrodoEmpire | The nomads are a group of mongol-esque peoples who for the most part want to be left alone on autonomous worlds to practice their traditional way of life. For the most part that's how it is, though occasionally something happens to flare up tensions, the government tries to negotiate, one thing leads to another and soon enough a local strongman's leading raiding expeditions to nearby worlds as a form of revolt |
| 04:09.03 | DrodoEmpire | Borderlanders claim that their basic right to reproduce is deprived of them, especially on the French side where genetic modification that isn't *explicitly* permitted is illegal |
| 04:09.41 | Tybusen | If you look closely at TIAF society, you see that they can be incredibly racist and callous towards conquered species like the Erionians |
| 04:09.42 | DrodoEmpire | And so in 2806 the radical nationalists stirred up trouble and started a revolt among the Borderlanders against Jivirik that was ultimately successful |
| 04:09.56 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 04:10.46 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo aren't *that* bad, the government themselves rarely goes out of its way to oppress a certain group of people. Its almost always the interactions between different groups that start te trouble, and the government has to use its heavy hand to intervene |
| 04:11.50 | Tybusen | It's similar in the TIAF, since the government isn't usually actively screwing over the second-class species, but any attempts to improve their situation either get ignored or get backlash |
| 04:12.53 | Tybusen | The Tuunk movement has gained traction in the TIAF since they've managed to make themselves visible and have managed to keep their radical elements in control, but there are many more species whose voices are still unheard |
| 04:13.31 | Tybusen | Especially among the other Erionian species, there's probably a bit of jealousy among those other species towards the Tuunk |
| 04:15.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, I gotta go |
| 04:15.27 | DrodoEmpire | Night |
| 04:15.39 | DrodoEmpire | Nice conversation here. :D |
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| 07:12.42 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 07:15.28 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: Hi, do you know what was the original capital of the USA before Washington? |
| 07:15.39 | Tybusen | New York |
| 07:16.04 | Tybusen | Fun fact: That's why New York is also known as the Empire State |
| 07:16.41 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
| 07:17.44 | Tybusen | Because it was described as the 'seat of the Empire' |
| 07:18.03 | Tybusen | This is getting into American trivia that I'm assuming goes beyond what you needed for the original question |
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| 08:02.55 | ImpyDroid | drom Tybusen: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1453787432621.png |
| 08:03.44 | Tybusen | seems accurate |
| 08:04.05 | drom | that fucking smugfaced UK |
| 08:05.13 | drom | Impydroid Tybusen: http://i.imgur.com/L1alfVv.jpg |
| 08:05.35 | ImpyDroid | MLGun |
| 08:06.18 | Tybusen | Where's the Mountain Dew and oversized airhorn? |
| 08:10.06 | Tybusen | I'm rereading a lot of older fictions I participated in and I'm almost laughing at how cringy my writing was back then |
| 08:11.59 | ImpyDroid | Our writing was a lot hammier back then |
| 08:12.40 | Tybusen | Lorrelas swings so easily between "war is fun, let's grind these guys into dust" and "I lost a few hundred men, I'm such a terrible commander" |
| 08:13.07 | Tybusen | It's like reading a lame middle-schooler's fan fiction |
| 08:13.13 | Tybusen | Actually that's exactly what it is, isn't it |
| 08:15.26 | drom | Tybusen ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/QsiR4q9.jpg |
| 08:15.55 | Tybusen | That looks a little bit like ImpyDroid IRL |
| 08:16.26 | ImpyDroid | It is more like a mix between me and Tybusen |
| 08:16.40 | Tybusen | TBH it looks way more like you than it does me |
| 08:16.56 | Tybusen | It might be the glasses |
| 08:17.07 | drom | Clash of the racists? |
| 08:17.28 | ImpyDroid | It's not racist if it's people from the same region |
| 08:17.44 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/CEA9k7S.jpg |
| 08:17.49 | ImpyDroid | drop Tybusen: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1453793867625.png |
| 08:18.01 | drom | ImpyDroid: That's per white socialist persons |
| 08:18.03 | Tybusen | And we've met each other IRL so we can actually say that it looks like one of us or another |
| 08:18.24 | ImpyDroid | Yeah that too |
| 08:18.39 | ImpyDroid | drom: DIE CIS SCUM |
| 08:18.42 | drom | Yeah. I saw that group selfie of both you. |
| 08:19.38 | Tybusen | we were totemo sugoi kawaii desu ne |
| 08:19.49 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/QUcQzvE.jpg |
| 08:20.35 | Tybusen | Watashi-tachi totemo sugokute kawaikatta desu |
| 08:21.12 | drom | I didn't order some Chinese silly |
| 08:22.35 | ImpyDroid | ì¤êµì¬ë 배긴ì!!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:23.01 | Tybusen | Drom-san wa chuugokujin ga tanonda ka? |
| 08:23.56 | ImpyDroid | ì§ë¬µ!!!! ëë ë를 죽ì¬!!!!! |
| 08:25.27 | Tybusen | Kebabu o sakujo shite! |
| 08:25.50 | drom | Jag pratar inte koreanska eller kinesiska. Inte undra varför Trump vill bygga muren, inte undra varför detta gynnar SD. |
| 08:26.50 | Tybusen | Nihongo desu, anta baka gaijin |
| 08:27.29 | Tybusen | ImpyDroid: Now that he's gone, we can profess our forbidden love for each other |
| 08:27.42 | ImpyDroid | <33333 |
| 08:27.55 | Tybusen | <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 08:28.03 | ImpyDroid | ì°ë¹ ì¬ëí´ |
| 08:28.12 | ImpyDroid | ì¤ë¹ even |
| 08:29.17 | Tybusen | Watashi wa aniki ga daisuki desu |
| 08:32.39 | ImpyDroid | You should install a Japanese keyboard for your phone hur |
| 08:33.26 | Tybusen | I'm using a laptop |
| 08:33.36 | Tybusen | If I were using a phone it would be much easier |
| 08:33.49 | ImpyDroid | Rite |
| 08:34.08 | ImpyDroid | Chuugoku I presume means China? |
| 08:35.50 | Tybusen | Yep |
| 08:36.05 | Tybusen | It's the Japanese reading of China's name for itself, which literally translates to "Middle Kingdom" |
| 08:36.21 | ImpyDroid | Figured as much hur |
| 08:36.39 | ImpyDroid | The Korean equivalent would be "Chunguk" |
| 08:36.56 | ImpyDroid | *is "Chunguk" |
| 08:37.16 | ImpyDroid | Wait does that mean that the main hero of Dragon Ball is literally called Country |
| 08:37.21 | Tybusen | I figure there's a lot of similar words in the Sinosphere |
| 08:37.31 | Tybusen | Actually no |
| 08:38.10 | Tybusen | The Japanese word for "country" is actually "koku", but it's one of many words in Japanese that changes pronounciation if it's paired with certain other kinds of words |
| 08:38.25 | Tybusen | Like for example, the word for the Japanese nation is "Nihon-koku" |
| 08:38.52 | ImpyDroid | Ah so k becomes a g when next to a vowel or a voiced consonant |
| 08:39.16 | Tybusen | I think so |
| 08:41.52 | Tybusen | Apparently Goku's name is made up of two kanji meaning "awaken" and "sky" in Chinese |
| 08:42.18 | Tybusen | So I suppose Goku's name means something along the lines of "awakened/realized sky" |
| 08:42.30 | ImpyDroid | That sounds awfully poetic hur |
| 08:42.49 | Tybusen | The "son" part of his name aptly means "grandchild" |
| 08:43.00 | Tybusen | Or "grandson" if you will |
| 08:43.14 | Tybusen | So basically it's "grandson of the realized sky" |
| 08:43.49 | Tybusen | The name is directly derived from Sun Wukong, who is a poetic figure in China I think |
| 08:46.01 | ImpyDroid | >Sun Wukong |
| 08:46.09 | ImpyDroid | Goku is literally a monkey |
| 08:47.20 | Tybusen | Well yeah |
| 08:47.45 | Tybusen | That's why he has the monkey tail in the pre-Z series |
| 08:51.13 | ImpyDroid | ah |
| 08:52.17 | Tybusen | He's basically a whole plot reference to Sun Wukong in the early series |
| 08:52.42 | Tybusen | DBZ is when Akira Toriyama really branched out from the source material |
| 08:59.26 | ImpyDroid | Huh |
| 08:59.40 | ImpyDroid | BTW Tybu seen our new PAE thing |
| 08:59.42 | ImpyDroid | ? |
| 09:00.24 | Tybusen | Yeah |
| 09:00.26 | Tybusen | Looks good |
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| 11:28.58 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 11:32.56 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:51.55 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator Hachiman: http://36.media.tumblr.com/6d89ff14b18cea16ad456d67740820fc/tumblr_ntx3jvD1ac1tnydxio1_1280.jpg A WEAPON TO SURPASS |
| 11:52.10 | Technobliterator | hahahahaha |
| 11:52.25 | Technobliterator | sent just before I had to bbl |
| 11:53.28 | Hachiman | hur |
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| 12:43.52 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:44.13 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 13:37.35 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 13:37.36 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 13:37.53 | Cyrannian | ~annihilate OluapPlayer |
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| 13:39.44 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 13:40.07 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 13:41.48 | Wormydroid | http://imgur.com/gallery/BvvXA5X |
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| 13:47.56 | ImpyDroid | So apparently today is the 105th anniversary of the death of Yi Bon-jin, the first Korean ambassador to Russia |
| 13:49.43 | ImpyDroid | He apparently used his influence to rally European nations to wage war against Japan and liberate Korea, as well as utilising his connections in Japanese-occupied Korea to transfer useful intelligence to Russian armies |
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| 13:54.54 | Hachiman_ | Hi |
| 13:55.04 | ImpyDroid | More importantly I was invited to the anniversary and got free food as well as a chance to check a qt South Korean student girl ^^ |
| 13:55.08 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 13:55.36 | Hachiman_ | Imp the Pimp |
| 13:55.39 | Hachiman_ | Pimperios |
| 13:56.10 | OluapPlayer | dat smooth |
| 14:00.10 | ImpyDroid | I mean I just got a chance to see her and talk with her for a little bit |
| 14:00.25 | ImpyDroid | *to her |
| 14:00.59 | ImpyDroid | Anyway the reason for all this is the anniversary of the death of the first Korean diplomat to Russia, Yi Bon-jin |
| 14:01.07 | ImpyDroid | He apparently used his influence to rally European nations to wage war against Japan and liberate Korea, as well as utilising his connections in Japanese-occupied Korea to transfer useful intelligence to Russian armies |
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| 14:06.33 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 14:20.10 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 14:24.46 | AdmiralPanda | you fehl, off to military school! |
| 14:26.05 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
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| 14:48.48 | Wormydroid | http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/25/people-reckon-the-new-planet-9-is-going-to-kill-us-all-heres-why-5642753/ |
| 14:50.33 | Wormydroid | "Welcome to the coming apocalypse" has a cup of tea in the profile https://www.youtube.com/user/paulbegley34 |
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| 15:12.04 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 15:12.32 | AdmiralPanda | you fehl, back to kindergarten |
| 15:13.13 | DrodoEmpire | 3:> |
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| 15:58.25 | AdmiralPanda | I was not prepared for the amount of angst in this album |
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| 16:03.36 | OluapPlayer | return of the dum |
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| 16:04.00 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 16:04.08 | AdmiralPanda | hai u |
| 16:04.28 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: so I bought the album that has the Starset songs I like, I was not prepared for the angst in the other 13 songs |
| 16:05.16 | Hachiman | >Starset is an American alternative rock band |
| 16:05.19 | Hachiman | That says it all |
| 16:06.01 | Hachiman | The angst practically writes itself hur |
| 16:08.39 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair, what non-country non-pop bands aren't full of angst these days |
| 16:08.43 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Part_I:_New_Beginnings - Take a look for those who haven't already, it's the main story plot for the Cyrannian Cold War |
| 16:08.54 | AdmiralPanda | already have |
| 16:11.26 | Hachiman | Is that a fucking Darth Maul raptor I see |
| 16:12.21 | Cyrannian | Yes. He's the one with the massive codpiece as you said |
| 16:12.47 | Cyrannian | It's obscured in the main image for the sake of common decency |
| 16:13.22 | AdmiralPanda | I thought codpieces by their nature maintained decency |
| 16:14.40 | AdmiralPanda | ok the angst levels just got even higher, but holy fuck do I love this music |
| 16:15.14 | AdmiralPanda | it's sorta straddling the line between rock and electronic |
| 16:20.53 | Hachiman | Pretty good story that was |
| 16:21.03 | Hachiman | Ryen is quite entertaining |
| 16:22.44 | Cyrannian | Glad you liked it |
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| 16:25.12 | Hachiman | I wonder what Zillum is up to as of recent I gotta say |
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| 16:25.40 | OluapPlayer | Suplexing Yudumartians and raging over Apollo not being dead yet |
| 16:27.03 | Cyrannian | He'll be up to dastardly shenanigans in an upcoming story with dino |
| 16:27.20 | OluapPlayer | y not upcoming stories with me |
| 16:29.05 | Cyrannian | I'm always open to stories with you dumbo |
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| 16:31.20 | drom | Hachiman ImpyDroid AdmiralPanda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpY-GQu_oAE |
| 16:31.35 | Wormy_away | Ghelae: http://arxiv.org/abs/1601.06518 |
| 16:35.38 | Ghelae | Ether? |
| 16:37.05 | ImpyDroid | http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1453825306846.jpg |
| 16:40.36 | Wormy_away | Very ether-like, I must say |
| 16:40.59 | AdmiralPanda | I'ma try to make a story with the ISF work, hopefully I'll be able to make something co-op happen |
| 16:41.46 | drom | The society in Sweden is doing worse than I've expected |
| 16:42.48 | Ghelae | Wormy_away: Unless I'm missing something, it looks to me like they're just describing how to make more and more precise tests for the existence of an ether. |
| 16:42.59 | AdmiralPanda | on that note, would anyone be up to doing something with the totally-not-cult-mechanicus? |
| 16:43.13 | AdmiralPanda | I have to make sporewiki skitarii now |
| 16:43.47 | Tek0516 | AUGH. I though mobile Wikia couldn't make me cringe more than it already did |
| 16:43.53 | ImpyDroid | AdmiralPanda: Could they be involved in digging Andromedan archaeotech |
| 16:43.54 | AdmiralPanda | heh |
| 16:45.27 | AdmiralPanda | ImpyDroid: Could bogans be half-deep in a bottle and drugged up to their eyeballs? |
| 16:45.51 | drom | Tek0516: Touché |
| 16:45.55 | Tek0516 | And then that damn 404 bug again |
| 16:46.06 | AdmiralPanda | I just realised you probably don't know what a bogan is |
| 16:46.09 | AdmiralPanda | the answer is yes |
| 16:46.23 | Tek0516 | drom: They replaced the search button with a menu that has a search option buried in it |
| 16:46.42 | drom | Tek0516: Kill me |
| 16:46.58 | drom | I don't want to live in this world anymore |
| 16:47.44 | Tek0516 | Drom: It has the extremely useful buttons of: games, movies, tv, explore wikia, and explore SporeWiki |
| 16:48.08 | drom | I told you, Wikia bloody sucks |
| 16:48.33 | Tek0516 | In other words, 4 of the 5 buttons on the search menu just take me to other wikis |
| 16:49.02 | Tek0516 | It also has their new tag "home of fandom" spread across the bottom |
| 16:50.41 | Tek0516 | It's so... weird looking |
| 16:51.36 | Wormy_away | I don't know what has happened to Wikia over the years. Maybe its because they rely on ads, so prioritise the latest mobile browser paradigms rather than what is useful for a wiki editor. |
| 16:51.54 | Tek0516 | http://i.imgur.com/rnKUMO8.jpg This used to just be a simple search tab |
| 16:52.25 | Wormy_away | yeah its crap "Explore SporeWiki at the bottom |
| 16:52.53 | OluapPlayer | dats an innuendo |
| 16:53.25 | Wormy_away | oh yeah |
| 16:53.26 | Tek0516 | Wikia is prioritizing its new "fandom" branding |
| 16:53.31 | Wormy_away | ugh |
| 16:53.49 | Wormy_away | They don't care about the true wiki editors. |
| 16:53.59 | Tek0516 | Of course by fandom they mean their specially branded fandom |
| 16:54.17 | drom | You all are giving me reasons to migrate to a very own hosting |
| 16:54.19 | Wormy_away | That's why so many poor quality wikis exist. |
| 16:54.33 | drom | host or an other wiki-farm |
| 16:54.42 | Wormy_away | Plenty of others. |
| 16:54.53 | Tek0516 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.07 | Wormy_away | But do you know that many wikis, including SporeWiki, didn't started out hosted at Wikia? They got assimilated. |
| 16:55.16 | drom | There are plenty of wiki-farms, and are not toxic as Wikia |
| 16:56.10 | drom | Else, we could host our own, but it is a question of ethic here. |
| 16:58.05 | drom | Wormy_away: Enjoy dis http://i.imgur.com/nhzNHK8.jpg |
| 16:58.29 | Wormy_away | double floof |
| 16:59.02 | Wormy_away | double frouble |
| 16:59.13 | Tek0516 | I wouldn't hate mobile Wikia quite so bad of there wasn't a 50% chance that any (working) page I click on get a 404 error |
| 17:02.53 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: To be honest I am not really fond of archery, it has too many drawbacks |
| 17:02.57 | Tek0516 | "404 Error" "Use navigation or search" I GOT TO THIS PAGE FROM SEARCH DAMNIT |
| 17:03.05 | drom | Hachiman AdmiralPanda Tek0516: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/26/man-who-feared-mass-shootings-brings-gun-to-movie-theater-accidentally-shoots-woman/ |
| 17:03.33 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: That was a shot in the dark, and it missed by a mile |
| 17:04.25 | Ghelae | drom: There are some links you don't even need to click on to experience the sheer irony of the story. |
| 17:05.01 | drom | Ghelae: I know right. |
| 17:05.05 | Hachiman | This is why I do not support guns hur |
| 17:05.10 | Tek0516 | Drom: And in a film about 'Muricans fighting off muslim terrorists nonetheless. |
| 17:06.40 | drom | Tek0516: There is actually a gun store in Florida, where they engrave Christian symbols and quotes on them. In hope of killing those who are not Christian and trying to use them, with "the rage of god". |
| 17:07.39 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 17:14.45 | drom | Jesus, the "home of fandom" is written all across the titlebar on the desktop version too |
| 17:19.42 | AdmiralPanda | http://cheezburger.com/8607005696 delicious |
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| 17:47.14 | Wormy_away | brb |
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| 18:01.19 | Hachiman | Hm, if a dwarf was to become a druid, what sort of animals would they be associated with? |
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| 18:02.14 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: moles |
| 18:02.20 | Hachiman | fug |
| 18:02.53 | AdmiralPanda | in all seriousness, in Golarion dwarven druids tend to be more associated with earth spirits than animals, but if they do take to animals it's usually things like bears, goats and wolves |
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| 18:38.38 | TekDroid | O.O Imgur has a 404 error |
| 18:48.20 | drom | So an younger friend of mine which we were seperated for like 5-6 years, she came back on Facebook and contacted me. She seems to be overly-attracted to me now |
| 18:48.21 | drom | help |
| 18:50.21 | AdmiralPanda | run |
| 18:50.22 | AdmiralPanda | away |
| 18:50.24 | AdmiralPanda | very quickly |
| 18:50.39 | AdmiralPanda | you're probably a rebound, and it will definitely end badly |
| 18:53.26 | drom | Yeah. It started today with a greeting. It escalated quickly over the evening to many questions, which I've answered. I was weird out her fondness of using "I miss you" lot and asking me which time I go to sleep. |
| 18:53.31 | drom | I regret now. |
| 18:54.12 | drom | I regret using Facebook again now |
| 18:54.57 | Xho | u got rebounded |
| 18:58.52 | drom | I live in an other city and she in an other. I've the chance to save me the pain and cut her off from Facebook and other services we used to contact each other today. |
| 18:59.52 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/l/t1.0-9/12417988_797516260354851_9108571209778644788_n.jpg?oh=42d2160e48d1544263505f3e3f935f80&oe=574152A5 |
| 19:02.47 | Hachiman | https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12650941_970195403055589_7636645028406938767_n.jpg?oh=4c4627f2e2da7d744a8e868ca1e9122c&oe=5749F568 |
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| 19:10.55 | Zf101 | Hello all. |
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| 19:14.28 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 19:14.29 | Hachiman | Hi Imp[ |
| 19:18.51 | Xho | Man I'm borerd |
| 19:18.57 | Xho | bored evne |
| 19:19.00 | Xho | I can't type I'm that bored |
| 19:19.32 | Imperios | Hi |
| 19:23.36 | Zf101 | I know the feeling |
| 19:25.40 | Hachiman | "Mfw I was in a League game with a Jewish girl and I said we should kill all the semites. Now we've been talking for the past two days and become friends." |
| 19:25.48 | Hachiman | My fucking friend I swear to God |
| 19:25.59 | DrodoEmpire | Back from exams |
| 19:26.10 | AdmiralPanda | heh |
| 19:27.38 | Xho | 10/10 what |
| 19:29.05 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair, we are talking about two League of Legends players here |
| 19:31.32 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 19:31.40 | Xho | u |
| 19:31.43 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1453823781559.png >female couriers |
| 19:31.47 | Xho | y u say hello hour after i join |
| 19:31.53 | Xho | y u asian all of a sudden |
| 19:32.05 | OluapPlayer | I was busy playing a game |
| 19:32.09 | OluapPlayer | and still am for that matter |
| 19:32.10 | Xho | Also, that was my Twitter profile pic for a while |
| 19:32.18 | Xho | One of my favourite images on the internet |
| 19:32.40 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Earath I've expanded this dong today |
| 19:33.03 | Hachiman | chek pag |
| 19:33.05 | Hachiman | page even |
| 19:33.07 | Hachiman | gib quotos |
| 19:33.12 | Hachiman | Quotovera Moirai |
| 19:33.27 | OluapPlayer | ey this is my pag not yors |
| 19:33.40 | Xho | " Did all Orichalcum Elf warriors have his attitude?" Septimus - no longinus is just a dick |
| 19:34.49 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: Best part of F:NV is when people react to a female courier blowing up Legion camps |
| 19:35.43 | drom | Xho: A longinus one. |
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| 19:36.42 | Xho | Longinus - burn yourself |
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| 19:38.03 | drom | Charles_Murray: I've decided to rewrite her history, as a part of rewriting the Sovereignty's early history. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zaalqor%C3%ADum |
| 19:38.19 | Hachiman | Longinus - you should consider getting your septimus pierced |
| 19:38.57 | drom | I've found it fine so far, except I'm wriggling on my chair that their early life is going to be more wordy than anyone else |
| 19:39.02 | Hachiman | As in septum |
| 19:39.07 | Hachiman | As in septum piercing |
| 19:39.18 | Xho | Longinus - seriously just burn yourself right now |
| 19:39.30 | Xho | I quoted yellow snake man |
| 19:39.42 | OluapPlayer | dats racist |
| 19:39.46 | Xho | Shiarchon - O RLY |
| 19:39.54 | OluapPlayer | Earath - ye u nig |
| 19:43.03 | Imperios | Hachiman: I read that as Qtvera Moirai |
| 19:43.27 | Hachiman | Funny because she is a qt |
| 19:44.03 | drom | entrepreneurship education is ngh |
| 19:48.28 | Hachiman | rite gonna brb |
| 19:58.36 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://www.facebook.com/cemre.candar/videos/175564102808967/ Santorakh's Dominion policies are as follows |
| 19:59.13 | OluapPlayer | Felt awkward, not watching anymore hur |
| 20:00.04 | Xho | Santorakh - succeeded |
| 20:04.24 | drom | Imperios Xho Zf101: What if we had a political leader with a history of incest? |
| 20:04.35 | Imperios | Hm |
| 20:04.42 | Xho | Well that came out of the blue |
| 20:04.48 | Imperios | Well there are the Khep |
| 20:05.44 | Zf101 | Uh. I have no strong opinion one way or the other really. |
| 20:06.45 | Xho | I might get to work on some Kicathian ships |
| 20:06.49 | drom | Imperios: gib link |
| 20:06.53 | Xho | Installations, hm |
| 20:07.07 | Imperios | They're based on Ancient Egyptians |
| 20:07.11 | Imperios | Which did a lot of incest |
| 20:07.19 | Imperios | Ergo one can assume the Khaep do a lot of incest |
| 20:07.22 | Imperios | You have to ask Hachiman |
| 20:07.22 | drom | This one? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Khaepsha-ultan |
| 20:07.28 | Imperios | Yes them |
| 20:07.56 | Imperios | Pharaoh Hillbilrednetep |
| 20:08.45 | Zf101 | Even their gods where inbreeds. |
| 20:08.58 | Xho | Blood purity and whatnot |
| 20:09.05 | Zf101 | "Dang sista, you got a purdy mouth" |
| 20:09.17 | drom | Then I'm taking that there can be a leader in a modern sci-fi universe even if she/he nailed their own sibling(s) and get offspring. |
| 20:09.51 | Imperios | Actually |
| 20:10.07 | Imperios | Considering that future genetics can in theory cure genetic ilnesses |
| 20:10.08 | drom | Because, either 1) their culture allows it, or 2) their nature allows such pheneoma without genetic degeneration |
| 20:10.18 | Imperios | Now suddenly incest could be less taboo |
| 20:10.28 | Ghel | I was just about to say what Imp has just said. |
| 20:10.35 | Imperios | I made myself squick hur |
| 20:10.37 | Zf101 | Mendel don't have royal families, so there's no reason for inbreeding. |
| 20:10.55 | Zf101 | And the Emperor of Zarbania got his balls burnt. Hard. |
| 20:11.01 | Ghel | At the very least, the physical problems caused by inbreeding would be treatable. |
| 20:11.01 | Imperios | Neither do Southern Americans |
| 20:11.12 | Zf101 | Touche. |
| 20:11.30 | Imperios | Psychologically however that would still be sort of ew for most people, but there are always exceptions |
| 20:12.13 | drom | Else allow the nature of their species to earse the physical consequences of inbreeding |
| 20:12.33 | Charles_Murray | Thanks for the quote, Xho! I'll try and get one on your president's page asap |
| 20:12.46 | Xho | welcome |
| 20:12.56 | Imperios | Some species are inbred because of their genetic history |
| 20:13.00 | Imperios | Like cheetah for example |
| 20:13.04 | Xho | For a Kicath to respect a human, it's quite a feat |
| 20:13.06 | Imperios | They're literally hilbilly cats |
| 20:13.16 | drom | Although concerning that, it is less likely to be realistical due to the nature of genetics. They'll always fuck up something |
| 20:13.36 | Xho | Where's Wormy when you want to talk to him about stuff |
| 20:13.42 | Xho | ~summon Wormy |
| 20:13.42 | infobot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Wormy's coordinates |
| 20:14.30 | Charles_Murray | drom : I'll take a look soon. Keep poking me |
| 20:14.49 | drom | Charles_Murray: Touché |
| 20:19.27 | Ghel | drom: The problems of inbreeding are generally caused by accumulation of recessive genes with unwanted traits. Besides intelligent editing of genes, the only ways around this are unintelligent editing of genes, i.e. high random mutation rate = a bad thing, or somehow the body has a way of detecting undesirable alleles and rejecting them, i.e. you end up with miscarriages instead of babies with faulty genomes. |
| 20:22.11 | drom | Socialdarwinism is a thing. |
| 20:22.29 | Charles_Murray | Xho : To clarify, Alexandre isn't impatient or openly spiteful towards the Kicath himself. He may have shown irritation towards the Kicath's inclusion in the PAE's highlord council in private with other highlords, but he's far above showing public contempt for another head of state |
| 20:23.08 | Charles_Murray | It's the French public that are not going to react well at all, and portions of it are going to revile the Kicath in public discourse, pressuring Alexandre to take a harsher stance on them |
| 20:24.26 | drom | Ghel: One way to detect miscarriages, on such event, their hosts body absorbs them again. |
| 20:24.54 | OluapPlayer | wormy is destroy |
| 20:25.04 | Ghel | The realistic problem isn't detecting miscarriages, but detecting unwanted genes. It's all a sequence of nucleotides; how can the body know what traits they result in? |
| 20:25.15 | Ghel | Just to illustrate how easily inbreeding problems can happen: suppose allele A is dominant, while allele B is recessive and also bad. You might have a father whose chromosomes contain AA (2 copies of A), and a mother whose chromosomes contain AB (1 copy of A and 1 copy of B). |
| 20:25.46 | drom | I'm aware of it |
| 20:27.13 | *** join/#sporewiki Tek0516 (~TekDroid@24.114.97.208) |
| 20:27.28 | drom | The last straw is to accept it that the species who leans to such practise are embarrassing themselves. |
| 20:27.35 | Ghel | Okay. |
| 20:28.04 | Ghel | Well, I just feel like doing the maths, since it's nice to do easy maths for a change. |
| 20:28.20 | drom | You are welcome to do so. |
| 20:28.31 | Ghel | Since the mother can pass on either A or B equally well (the father can only pass on A), there's a 50% chance of any child also having AB. If two children both have AB and breed, their children have a 25% of having BB. |
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| 20:29.08 | Zf101 | Basic leason of the day. Dont inbreed |
| 20:29.12 | Ghel | So if an inbreeding family starts with one AB, then in two generations 50% * 25% = 1/8 of all granchildren will have BB on average. |
| 20:29.56 | Ghel | Zf101: Unless you have gene editing. But then still don't because it's ew. |
| 20:30.29 | Zf101 | Unless it's your step-sister. Cause your not genetically related, and if she's hot then, you know... |
| 20:30.38 | Zf101 | Jk. ;) |
| 20:30.47 | Xho | jesus christ |
| 20:30.59 | Zf101 | I'm durty. |
| 20:31.30 | drom | ""Asexual reproduction is [like] the ultimate in incest because you're breeding with yourself," Wheelwright told LiveScience." |
| 20:31.33 | Zf101 | This is why I don't talk much on IRC. Too damn creepy. |
| 20:31.39 | drom | I laught out loudly on this |
| 20:33.09 | drom | Zf101: I could bring the controversity of virtual rape here though. |
| 20:33.25 | Xho | Kicath - this is why we don't like humans |
| 20:33.27 | *** join/#sporewiki Monet (~Monet47@cpc90522-gill20-2-0-cust960.20-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:33.34 | AdmiralPanda | wouldn't asexual reproduction be more like extreme masturbation rather than incest? |
| 20:33.34 | Zf101 | Wow dere drom. |
| 20:33.40 | Monet | Hello |
| 20:33.45 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:33.46 | Xho | First thing Monet sees -> that |
| 20:33.46 | Charles_Murray | Xho : This is why I don't like mass politics ;) |
| 20:33.49 | drom | Hello |
| 20:33.55 | Zf101 | What a thing for monet to walk in on. |
| 20:33.59 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 20:34.05 | AdmiralPanda | pretty sure Monet has walked in on worse things |
| 20:34.06 | Monet | gf is perfectly normal. |
| 20:34.06 | Xho | Kicath hate everything except what they design really |
| 20:34.08 | Monet | I see this as* |
| 20:34.14 | AdmiralPanda | hell, I've walked in on worse |
| 20:34.20 | Ghel | Asexual reproduction with meiosis would be like extreme incest, using those genetics labels from before: there's a 25% change of getting the two recessive alleles in the first generation. |
| 20:34.24 | OluapPlayer | *Kicath hate |
| 20:34.26 | OluapPlayer | fixed |
| 20:34.36 | Xho | Kithworto - dats not tru well it is |
| 20:35.02 | Hachiman | Back |
| 20:35.15 | Zf101 | drom - I was talking of a concenting relationshipwith your step sister. I don't know how rape got into that. |
| 20:35.20 | Xho | The Kicath might be aggressive and notoriously psychotic but they're generally geared towards creating rather than destroying |
| 20:35.23 | Hachiman | I can tell you about extreme masturbation if you want |
| 20:35.27 | Xho | pls dont |
| 20:35.28 | drom | Zf101: And there was a game that brought controversy on itself because you could virtually commit pedophilia. |
| 20:35.47 | drom | Zf101: Morale panic |
| 20:36.03 | Zf101 | Let me pull up a clip of some internet celebrity to voice my reaction. |
| 20:37.30 | Zf101 | This will do. |
| 20:37.35 | Zf101 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mymno90JDio |
| 20:38.02 | Zf101 | What is this game you speak of. Is it Game of Thrones related? |
| 20:38.16 | Xho | stahp dis |
| 20:38.19 | Xho | stahp dis rite nao |
| 20:38.35 | drom | No. A fork of SS13. And it was a very distrubing one. |
| 20:38.52 | Ghel | Look, if people want to know about the feasibility of something fiction-related, I'll respond. Liquid Ink has asked me about far worse things than incest before. |
| 20:39.10 | Zf101 | What could be worse then incest. |
| 20:39.16 | Zf101 | On second thought don't answer that. |
| 20:39.16 | Xho | Necrophilic incest |
| 20:39.21 | drom | olol |
| 20:39.22 | Zf101 | Gah! |
| 20:39.30 | Hachiman | Incest: The Game the Whole Family Can Play |
| 20:39.40 | Zf101 | Ages 3 and up. |
| 20:39.41 | Hachiman | Incest: Kid-Tested, Mother-Approved |
| 20:39.46 | drom | Xho: That actually happened when I was playing that fork of SS13 I mentioned. |
| 20:39.53 | Zf101 | O gawd |
| 20:39.55 | Xho | Nigga u got sum weird game |
| 20:40.16 | Hachiman | At least I got game |
| 20:40.20 | drom | I was dead, I scotted around and found a peasant tearing a dead body's ass apart. Turns out he is the son to the dead body. |
| 20:40.20 | Zf101 | Dis game. It arouses my interests. Pun certianly intended. |
| 20:40.58 | Zf101 | Well, you gotta do it sometimes. Even in the most bizarre of circumstances. |
| 20:41.05 | Xho | Seriously what the fuck |
| 20:41.17 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1453836087337.png we are diamond bots |
| 20:41.34 | Hachiman | Funny because a few days ago I read about a woman whose newborn son was conceived from a dead body she fucked in a morgue |
| 20:41.58 | Charles_Murray | Xho : posted! Let me know what you think |
| 20:42.00 | OluapPlayer | Of course you read that |
| 20:42.01 | Xho | Kicath - humans must die |
| 20:42.10 | Xho | Charles_Murray: will do |
| 20:42.14 | drom | Hachiman: The second time I played it, someone stole a body from the town's morgue and had sex with it. |
| 20:42.20 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - but ur even worse |
| 20:42.21 | Hachiman | kek |
| 20:42.24 | Zf101 | Phase-Hunter - Dis my kind of women. |
| 20:42.24 | Monet | Hachiman: That osunds like hyperbole to me. |
| 20:42.38 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:43.17 | Xho | Kicath - a longer song, a longer schlong although the song is hatred and the schlong is mass destruction |
| 20:43.24 | Zf101 | Well, if you can get the body fast enough, the sperm shouldn't die, so it is possible. |
| 20:43.25 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kitravasuron_Vanlirasan#Notes |
| 20:43.32 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - extinction c |
| 20:43.47 | Zf101 | Hachi, why do you make me think of the science of impregnantion via dead bodies. |
| 20:44.06 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: Fordanta - Can we not be nice with these people? They make us look normal. |
| 20:44.24 | OluapPlayer | Also why are the Kicath part of the PAE |
| 20:44.28 | OluapPlayer | They're a Borealis nation |
| 20:44.33 | Hachiman | Because it is entirely possible |
| 20:44.35 | Hachiman | Muscle spasms for the penis still work post-mortem |
| 20:44.49 | Xho | As a race they're native of the Milky Way :v |
| 20:44.53 | Zf101 | stop, stop. I need bleach applied to my brain. |
| 20:45.06 | OluapPlayer | the Remnant is a Borealis-based empire |
| 20:45.07 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.10 | Zf101 | I've already thought too much into this already. |
| 20:45.11 | Hachiman | Farting, burping, erection, ejaculation; all of it can be done by a corpse so long as it has the necessary parts and has not yet gone into total rigor mortis |
| 20:45.12 | Ghel | I would expect Hachi to be right here, but I'll defer to his superior expertise. |
| 20:45.12 | drom | Hachiman: For an odd reason, I'm excited by this. |
| 20:45.20 | OluapPlayer | Why would they be leaders of the Andromeda galactic alliance |
| 20:45.32 | Xho | The Andromedans realised that the Kicath's contributions to galactic peace and so on and so forth was important |
| 20:45.42 | OluapPlayer | contributions |
| 20:45.43 | OluapPlayer | like wut |
| 20:45.50 | drom | Exterminating themselves |
| 20:45.51 | Xho | Trade mainly |
| 20:45.58 | OluapPlayer | Kicath never contribute to peace |
| 20:46.16 | drom | The Kicath did a favor for everyone: they killed each other. |
| 20:46.27 | Zf101 | I'm going to need some serious therapy after today. |
| 20:46.30 | Xho | Kithworto - this gigaquadrant needs a rest |
| 20:46.32 | Hachiman | Sounds like the Middle East |
| 20:46.33 | Xho | or reset or whatever |
| 20:46.35 | Hachiman | Wait |
| 20:46.58 | Ghel | Juat because most of our fiction involves people killing each other doesn't mean that the Kicath never do anything else. |
| 20:47.02 | drom | Hachiman: Middle East, Russia, America and the Balkan |
| 20:47.11 | Xho | Though I think the PAE and the Kicath agreed that their territories in Borealis can't vote in Andromedan affairs |
| 20:47.31 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.36 | OluapPlayer | They don't though. They never helped for any war they were supposedly involved in save for sending a handful of individuals |
| 20:47.54 | drom | Ghelae Hachiman: http://www.livescience.com/2226-incest-taboo-nature.html |
| 20:47.54 | Xho | Nu - thats all u need |
| 20:47.57 | Zf101 | Individuals who happen to be one-man armies. |
| 20:48.07 | OluapPlayer | And are all killable |
| 20:48.09 | drom | Ghel Zf101: http://www.livescience.com/2226-incest-taboo-nature.html |
| 20:48.13 | drom | demnit |
| 20:48.13 | Hachiman | I may be wrong with my reasoning of muscle spasms regarding post-mortem erection and ejaculation but I know corpses can still become erect |
| 20:48.14 | OluapPlayer | One-man army isn't an excuse |
| 20:48.18 | Monet | The Kicath provided military support during the ANdromeda War. |
| 20:48.29 | AdmiralPanda | technically speaking, so long as you're within a couple days of bodily failure you're fine in terms of functional bodily fluids |
| 20:48.31 | OluapPlayer | The Fog War is the first time I've ever seen mentions of Kicathian ships |
| 20:48.38 | Zf101 | Stop, drom stop. I'm going to have nightmares about this. |
| 20:48.49 | AdmiralPanda | if memory serves sperm can survive in a suitable environment for up to seven days |
| 20:48.54 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 20:48.55 | drom | Zf101: YOU EARN THIS FOR MAKING ME RETURN OT THE THING |
| 20:48.57 | Xho | The Kicath mostly serve a neutrality-to-war policy |
| 20:49.06 | Xho | Though the Agency doesn't always listen to that |
| 20:49.10 | Zf101 | Fair enough. |
| 20:49.12 | Hachiman | They have a lifespan of seven days then get replaced |
| 20:49.19 | Hachiman | With a dead body that does not entirely work |
| 20:49.29 | Hachiman | At least after those remaining days |
| 20:49.31 | AdmiralPanda | the ejaculant not so long |
| 20:50.08 | OluapPlayer | What I want to know is how this affects the PCA |
| 20:50.15 | OluapPlayer | because this all looks like favoring the PAE over it |
| 20:50.31 | Xho | Like I said the Kicath legislated that Borealis colonies have no part in Andromedan affairs |
| 20:51.55 | Xho | Kithworto would have deemed it unfair for the Kicath who are already part of the PCA to have their say in another galaxy |
| 20:52.25 | Xho | So politically Borealis and Andromeda are separate to prevent a schism with the Kicath right in the middle |
| 20:53.07 | Xho | The same goes for the Milky Way/Mirus/Cyrannus turfs, they don't have much say in Borealis either |
| 20:53.14 | Xho | Certainly not Cyrannus |
| 20:53.43 | Hachiman | inb4 the Andromedan Kicath become the Kicathian Remnant Remnant |
| 20:53.58 | Xho | Kithworto - STOP SPLITTING UP YOU IDIOTS |
| 20:54.07 | Imperios | Monet: So the Russian conservative website that I think I already mentioned more than once claims that Inside Out promotes anti-Russian family-destroying feminist values, becaue the main character plays Hockey |
| 20:54.33 | Imperios | *plays hockey |
| 20:54.38 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
| 20:54.41 | Monet | Imperios: Wow just...wow. |
| 20:54.46 | Hachiman | Russians are fucking bizarre |
| 20:54.49 | Zf101 | Damn Russia, U scary. |
| 20:54.54 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (8036b314@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.54.179.20) |
| 20:55.02 | Imperios | These guys are so hilarious that I think they need to be translated |
| 20:55.02 | Zf101 | Not as scary as drom though! |
| 20:55.08 | Monet | Women playing hockey is fairly normal in the West. |
| 20:55.15 | Imperios | Hachiman: Conservative Russians, that is |
| 20:55.21 | Imperios | these guys are crazy even by our standards |
| 20:55.33 | Imperios | They're basically Tea-Party level republicans, except they worship the USSR |
| 20:55.42 | Zf101 | Ah, I get it now. |
| 20:56.00 | Zf101 | Do they have an idiot who can see Alaska from her house? |
| 20:56.09 | Imperios | And instead of everything being a liberal plot to destroy the American way of life, everything is an American plot to destroy the Russian way of life |
| 20:56.35 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 20:56.39 | Imperios | Hi Tybusen |
| 20:56.52 | Imperios | They literally criticise everything |
| 20:57.03 | Monet | Hachiman Xho: One of the big issues that can come up regarding colonies: The need for autonomy and eventually sovereignty. |
| 20:57.05 | Imperios | They literally pick a thing, and say what it "teaches" to people |
| 20:57.18 | drom | Hello Tybusen |
| 20:57.30 | Imperios | Thing is, I do not think Game of Thrones needs to educate morality... |
| 20:57.35 | Hachiman | This is how Australia happened |
| 20:57.43 | Hachiman | And the USA |
| 20:57.51 | Hachiman | And Andromedan France |
| 20:58.01 | Monet | And INdia and most of Africa. |
| 20:58.14 | Zf101 | Let's just say...everything really. |
| 20:58.35 | Monet | It all stems from colonies wanting to feel as valued and as great as the homeland. |
| 20:58.50 | Zf101 | Motherland - Lolnope. |
| 20:58.56 | Imperios | EXCEPT FOR US |
| 20:59.02 | Imperios | SIBERIA WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO RUSSIA |
| 20:59.04 | Xho | Chances are the Kicath might be pressured to turn their backs on some of their allies in the future because of how far they've expanded themselves |
| 20:59.11 | Imperios | CHINA WILL NEVER HAVE AN INCH OF ITS SOIL |
| 20:59.43 | Monet | "No taxation without representation" = We'll pay your tarrifs and prices but we want to sit in parliament as well. |
| 20:59.51 | drom | Charles_Murray: Don't forget to pay your debt today! Read ze history! |
| 20:59.58 | Imperios | Monet Hachiman Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWlksXtOUCA They subbed one of their videos |
| 21:00.04 | Imperios | Do check it, it is fucking hilarious |
| 21:00.31 | Xho | Minions are the ultimate cancer of the earth and must be burned in hellfire |
| 21:00.32 | Monet | Xho: Hyperexpansion has its risks. |
| 21:00.40 | drom | Monet: Nationalism |
| 21:01.31 | Monet | drom: THere was no America back in 1770. Just a British overseas territory |
| 21:02.19 | Imperios | Xho: Yes, but they treat it as an American plot to destroy Russia |
| 21:02.36 | Imperios | I like how they can make everything look like an American plot to destroy Russia |
| 21:02.46 | Monet | Imperios: "A strike into penis" as a reason the film is bad... |
| 21:03.01 | Monet | Do these guys not find being hit in the crotch funny? |
| 21:03.22 | drom | Monet: Americans felt alienated by the Brits due to the tariffs and how they treated them. This creates an atmosphere, a virtual community where everyone feels they belongs to it. |
| 21:03.25 | drom | feel* |
| 21:03.26 | Imperios | They believe it is vulgar I think |
| 21:03.34 | drom | feel like they belong to it* |
| 21:03.38 | Imperios | Vulgar -> Makes our children vulgar -> American plot to destroy Russia |
| 21:03.57 | Monet | Imperios: Well they're right at its potential vulagerity |
| 21:04.27 | Monet | drom: The phrase implies they would consider the tarrifs if they got a voice in Parliament. |
| 21:04.51 | Imperios | Also |
| 21:05.19 | Imperios | Minions are genderless and may at times be feminine or mascule -> Minions will turn our children into transgenders |
| 21:05.33 | Tybusen | Imperios: This feels almost like satire |
| 21:05.55 | Imperios | Tybusen: Dear Lord, it is not, they actually engage in comment wars to protect their beliefs |
| 21:05.56 | Monet | This would indeed create an atmosphere of a new community because it flat-out tells American locals "We don't care for your opinion" |
| 21:06.12 | Imperios | They also comment on other people's videos with moralistic opinions |
| 21:06.21 | Imperios | Though some part of me hopes it is satire hur |
| 21:06.23 | Hachiman | Imperios: You are wrong, it can be assumed that most Minions are male |
| 21:06.30 | Hachiman | They are given male names and pronouns |
| 21:06.34 | Imperios | But they also dress up as ladies at times |
| 21:06.46 | Tybusen | Yeah but that's just crossdressing for humor |
| 21:06.50 | Hachiman | But they are still given male pronouns and names nonetheless |
| 21:07.02 | Hachiman | And yes, crossdressing humour |
| 21:07.06 | Monet | They also often act like boys. |
| 21:07.08 | drom | Monet: Nationalism creates a virtual community where everyone who belongs to it don't actually know each other, but in common they know few persons and praise them in the same way as cult followers. Such as sport legends and top politicans. |
| 21:07.21 | AdmiralPanda | anyone who says crossdressing isn't funny hasn't seen Mrs. Doubtfire |
| 21:07.26 | drom | Monet: Get me now? |
| 21:07.31 | Zf101 | Or Queen music. |
| 21:07.31 | Imperios | Tybusen: There's crossdressing for humour, and then there's crossdressing for an American plot to destroy Russia |
| 21:07.35 | Hachiman | Of course I find crossdressing funny, I am British |
| 21:07.47 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman is wearing a frilly dress as we speak |
| 21:07.50 | Tybusen | Imperios: Oh, of course, how could I be so blind to that obvious fact |
| 21:07.52 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 21:08.12 | Hachiman | Funny because I sometimes get mistaken for a woman from behind |
| 21:08.14 | Imperios | Thankfully our glorious God-President Putin will protect us |
| 21:08.19 | Monet | This next bit on Scarlett Overkill's behaviour: It's the 60s! The decade of female empowerment! |
| 21:08.31 | AdmiralPanda | I have a picture of 4-year-old-me in a tutu |
| 21:08.37 | Xho | kek |
| 21:08.40 | Imperios | These guys hate feminists hur |
| 21:08.45 | Zf101 | I tend to look like a girl when I grow my hair out. |
| 21:08.55 | Hachiman | My hair is always grown out |
| 21:09.01 | Hachiman | I almost never cut it |
| 21:09.10 | Tybusen | I don't mind crossdressing but I feel like there's a double standard when it comes to crossdressing |
| 21:09.18 | Zf101 | That's why I am growing a moustache. |
| 21:09.29 | Hachiman | I already have a moustache |
| 21:09.29 | Hachiman | And a beard |
| 21:09.34 | Hachiman | A puny beard but a beard nonetheless |
| 21:09.39 | Xho | terrible |
| 21:09.41 | AdmiralPanda | part of the problem with women crossdressing is that a lot of the time they just look like a woman |
| 21:09.43 | Monet | Alcoholism propaganda -> An american film depicting the Queen of England chugging a full pint of beer. |
| 21:09.45 | Tybusen | When it's a girl wearing guy's clothing, that's seen as "empowering" or something, while if it's a guy wearing womens' clothing, that's seen as "humiliating" |
| 21:09.54 | Xho | double standards |
| 21:09.57 | Hachiman | Not my fault I cannot grow a respectable beard hur |
| 21:09.58 | AdmiralPanda | and that |
| 21:10.31 | Zf101 | I don't know. After watching Jojo's bizzare adventures,I know want to wear a dress and fight nazis in mexco. |
| 21:10.45 | Zf101 | Crossdressin powa |
| 21:10.46 | AdmiralPanda | on the subject of facial hair, I can basically do a Tony Stark impression |
| 21:11.09 | AdmiralPanda | but I'd really like to have proper facial hair around my jawline |
| 21:11.12 | Hachiman | Notice that Joseph's crossdressing act was seen through almost right away hur |
| 21:11.26 | Zf101 | He was still bootiful. |
| 21:11.37 | Hachiman | He looked like fucking Chun-Li |
| 21:11.44 | Tybusen | honestly what even is facial hair lol |
| 21:11.51 | Xho | OluapPlayer: If you want the Kicath gone from the PCA then we could talk about it |
| 21:11.53 | AdmiralPanda | it's hair |
| 21:11.55 | AdmiralPanda | on your face |
| 21:11.58 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:11.58 | AdmiralPanda | obviously :P |
| 21:12.04 | Zf101 | You just jealous your not as bootiful as Joesph in drag. |
| 21:12.32 | Monet | I didn't realise until now how much of Minions involves England. |
| 21:12.41 | Hachiman | Yes but Tybusen is East Asian |
| 21:12.44 | Hachiman | Chinese, even |
| 21:12.52 | Tybusen | Monet: ENGLISH PLOT TO TAKE OVER THE UNITED STATES |
| 21:12.58 | OluapPlayer | I don't want them gone from the PCA, I never said that |
| 21:12.58 | Hachiman | Could try a fu-manchu |
| 21:13.27 | Zf101 | I'm going for a Freddie Mercury/Teddy Roosevelt moustache myself. |
| 21:13.30 | Tybusen | Hachiman: I guess East Asian is technically correct if you include the other half of me that isn't Chinese |
| 21:13.32 | Monet | Admittedly, I kind of love it's take o nueen Lizzie as a ladette. Drinking beer by the pint, elbow-diving |
| 21:13.54 | Tybusen | Wasn't Queen Elizabeth kind of like that when she was younger? |
| 21:14.00 | Hachiman | I really hope so |
| 21:14.07 | Monet | Probably which is what makes it so hilarious |
| 21:14.09 | AdmiralPanda | if you ask Alucard she was |
| 21:14.15 | Hachiman | She was not even intended to be the Queen when she was younger |
| 21:14.17 | Tybusen | She was an Army truck driver or something during WWII |
| 21:14.32 | Hachiman | Only because someone abdicated was she allowed to become Queen |
| 21:14.44 | Tybusen | There's a lot of pictures of her in a military uniform when she was younger |
| 21:15.14 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Hrh_Princess_Elizabeth_in_the_Auxiliary_Territorial_Service%2C_April_1945_TR2832.jpg |
| 21:15.38 | Tybusen | How is it that I know more about your sovereign than you do |
| 21:15.56 | Xho | Because we're British |
| 21:16.02 | Imperios | Monet: Interestingly, though, I've checked their video on Homeland and apparently these Russian guys have one positive point: they believe in religion tolerance |
| 21:16.04 | AdmiralPanda | I know practically nothing about my own country's history except the parts where we made America look bad |
| 21:16.04 | Hachiman | Because I am anti-monarchy |
| 21:16.05 | Imperios | *in religious tolerance |
| 21:16.06 | Xho | We just don't care enough |
| 21:16.10 | AdmiralPanda | and the parts where we made Britain look bad |
| 21:16.16 | AdmiralPanda | and hte parts where we made France look bad |
| 21:16.25 | Hachiman | But France always looks bad |
| 21:16.35 | Imperios | They protect Islam and one of the series' "crimes" is "portraying Islam as a terrorist religion" |
| 21:16.39 | AdmiralPanda | and the part where we were really chill with the Turks |
| 21:16.57 | Xho | Charles gets triggered in 3 2 1 |
| 21:17.10 | Hachiman | And the part where you scared the shit out of the Japanese Empire |
| 21:17.10 | AdmiralPanda | tbh when is Charles not triggered in this chatroom |
| 21:17.19 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: that too |
| 21:17.24 | Monet | Yeah Hachi's a believer in the British Monarchy being an insidiosu clan of lizard peopel out to rule the country. |
| 21:17.24 | Tybusen | The Turks were pretty chill except during the late Ottoman era and Erdogan era |
| 21:17.26 | Imperios | I presume they see Muslims as fellow souls, what with them hating feminism and gays and all that |
| 21:17.30 | drom | Xho Zf101: http://i.imgur.com/Bb6w6.gif |
| 21:17.32 | Imperios | REMOVE |
| 21:17.34 | Imperios | SHISH |
| 21:17.35 | Imperios | KEBAB |
| 21:17.36 | Imperios | DESTROY |
| 21:17.37 | Imperios | ERDOGAN |
| 21:17.38 | Imperios | GLORY |
| 21:17.38 | Imperios | TO |
| 21:17.39 | Imperios | ATATURK |
| 21:17.44 | Imperios | REVENGE |
| 21:17.45 | Imperios | FOR |
| 21:17.45 | Imperios | PLANE |
| 21:17.49 | AdmiralPanda | Tybusen: we had can-shooting contests with them at Gallipoli |
| 21:17.50 | Zf101 | Drom, this better not be disturbing. |
| 21:17.54 | OluapPlayer | Stop |
| 21:18.05 | Xho | Drom: Santorakh - HELLO IS IT ME YOU'RE LOOKING FOR |
| 21:18.17 | AdmiralPanda | Zf101: not disturbing at all |
| 21:18.23 | Zf101 | Oh shit, lies! |
| 21:18.24 | Monet | Xho: Charles is only triggered when "France" is follwoed by anything relating to cowardice or surrender. |
| 21:18.56 | Xho | [21:16] <Hachiman> But France always looks bad shots fired tho |
| 21:18.57 | Hachiman | Mentioning France is like a white flag |
| 21:18.59 | Tybusen | lol france white flag waterloo baguette hundred year's war hon hon hon |
| 21:19.04 | Imperios | He has a point though |
| 21:19.05 | Zf101 | Actually, that brings a tear to my eye. It looks like my aunt. *Sniffs* |
| 21:19.14 | Imperios | Like France at least managed to do something while surrendering |
| 21:19.37 | Monet | Tybusen: France *won* the Hundred YEars War. |
| 21:19.38 | Imperios | And I do not think the UK would not have surrendered had they not been on an island |
| 21:19.39 | Hachiman | The French are only better at one thing than the British |
| 21:19.41 | Hachiman | Dying |
| 21:19.53 | Zf101 | Oh lol. |
| 21:20.00 | Xho | gets into a vault |
| 21:20.03 | Xho | Nukes fired |
| 21:20.03 | Zf101 | I feel terrible for laughing at that. |
| 21:20.06 | Tybusen | Truth be told, the French actually have had a pretty good war record, it's just that they got screwed in nearly every war of the modern era |
| 21:20.06 | AdmiralPanda | joins him |
| 21:20.12 | AdmiralPanda | passes the popcorn |
| 21:20.25 | Zf101 | France was cool, then blam, Bismarck happened. |
| 21:20.33 | Xho | That and the French gave us Gojira and Gojira is great |
| 21:20.38 | drom | Charles_Murray |
| 21:20.40 | drom | See |
| 21:20.42 | Zf101 | That was Japan xho. |
| 21:20.48 | Xho | I'm talking about the band |
| 21:20.56 | Xho | Death metal band |
| 21:20.58 | Imperios | Hachiman: Does that mean Brits are Daleks |
| 21:20.58 | Zf101 | I know. I'm screwing with you. |
| 21:21.01 | Tybusen | That's true, Bismarck pretty much engineered the systematic screwing-over of the French military |
| 21:21.05 | Xho | kicks Zf101 into the sun |
| 21:21.09 | Hachiman | EXTERMIM8 |
| 21:21.18 | Xho | XTRM1N8 |
| 21:21.50 | Hachiman | U-FUKN-W0T-MAAAAATE |
| 21:21.52 | Imperios | And the French are Cybermen |
| 21:22.27 | drom | http://lolnein.com/comics/whatislove.gif |
| 21:22.48 | Hachiman | The Brits pretty much are Daleks; we hate everything, everyone, and killed millions of people |
| 21:23.01 | Hachiman | And subsequently enslaved and conquered them |
| 21:23.37 | Monet | So did every Euopean power. |
| 21:23.46 | Charles_Murray | :( |
| 21:24.04 | DrodoEmpire | And I mean, the Empire sorta did help end slavery during the 19th century. :p |
| 21:24.09 | Imperios | Cybermen are the French because they believe their culture is superior and spread it as they conquer others |
| 21:24.20 | Hachiman | Except Russia who got enslaved if I remember |
| 21:24.22 | Hachiman | By Mongols |
| 21:24.26 | Hachiman | I may be wrong |
| 21:24.36 | Tybusen | No you're right |
| 21:24.40 | Tybusen | Mongols turned Russia into a vassal of their empire |
| 21:24.45 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 21:25.03 | Monet | Well, by "Every" I more specifically mean Spain, Portugal, France, Austria and the Netherlands. |
| 21:25.05 | drom | Hot damn, AdmiralPanda: Australian Shepherds look glamarious |
| 21:25.16 | AdmiralPanda | they fucking are |
| 21:25.24 | Monet | Oh and of course England. |
| 21:25.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: Actually it was more Tatars than Mongols |
| 21:25.49 | Hachiman | And Tatars got their arses kicked by the Mongols |
| 21:25.53 | Imperios | Pretty much |
| 21:26.08 | Imperios | cycle of conquest hur |
| 21:26.10 | Imperios | Tatars led by Mongols |
| 21:26.33 | Hachiman | Either way, Slavs cannot do anything right |
| 21:26.37 | Monet | Before WWII the general agreement was that you should never fuck with France. |
| 21:26.46 | Hachiman | First Vikings, then Tatars / Mongols |
| 21:26.57 | Monet | England has special privelages because ancient rivalry |
| 21:26.57 | Imperios | Then a mostly German dynasty |
| 21:27.00 | Imperios | Then a Jew |
| 21:27.05 | Imperios | Then a Georgian |
| 21:27.15 | Imperios | And then the USSR becgan its decline |
| 21:27.36 | Tybusen | Monet: Well except that Germany also did precisely that in the Franco-Prussian War |
| 21:28.18 | Monet | Tybusen: True, but in WWI the Germans understood that trying to cross the Franco-German border would have been extremely costly |
| 21:28.20 | Imperios | But yes pretty much |
| 21:28.25 | DrodoEmpire | Tybusen: I also believe that wasn't exactly expected. :p |
| 21:28.29 | DrodoEmpire | There |
| 21:28.31 | Monet | So Germany marched though Belgium. |
| 21:28.35 | DrodoEmpire | *There's an exception to every rule |
| 21:28.49 | Imperios | Hachiman: Russians are mostly good at singular, but massive acts of heroism |
| 21:29.17 | Imperios | Mostly because they disregard human life so much |
| 21:29.17 | Monet | Had Germany simply marched over the Franco-German border there would probably have been more of a bloodbath. |
| 21:29.35 | Imperios | But still, sending the first man into space is a big achievement |
| 21:29.41 | Imperios | BIGGER THAN BEING THE FIRST ON THE MOON |
| 21:29.43 | Hachiman | And the first animal |
| 21:29.43 | Imperios | SUCK IT ARMSTRONG |
| 21:29.48 | Imperios | GAGARIN BEST COMRADE |
| 21:29.52 | Tybusen | I wonder if the beginning of WWII would have turned out differently if France had bothered to fortify the Franco-Belgian border |
| 21:29.52 | Imperios | GAGARIN STEP BIG |
| 21:30.00 | Imperios | UNLIKE TINY ARMSTRONG STEP |
| 21:30.05 | Hachiman | To be fair |
| 21:30.18 | Hachiman | Americans killed less astronauts than Russians did cosmonauts |
| 21:30.22 | Charles_Murray | Tybusen : None of these borders were fortified |
| 21:30.34 | Charles_Murray | They expected old-style maneuver warfare at the outset |
| 21:30.52 | drom | Xho Zf101 Imperios Monet Hachiman: Crowd control at a comicbook con in Japan http://i.imgur.com/jl2FsEZ.webm |
| 21:30.54 | Monet | http://i.imgur.com/hgb4GwO.jpg I found these one time. |
| 21:30.55 | Tybusen | The Maginot Line was threatening enough that Germany still decided to take the Belgian shortcut even with their Panzer brigade |
| 21:30.56 | drom | gah |
| 21:31.00 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/jl2FsEZ.gifv for loop |
| 21:31.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: As I said, disregard for human life |
| 21:31.40 | Imperios | Same with defeating the Nazis and the French |
| 21:32.16 | Hachiman | That is effectively the same reasoning as putting a bunch of monkeys in a room with a typewriter and then them eventually writing Shakespeare |
| 21:32.29 | Hachiman | Caveman Slav logic hur |
| 21:32.32 | Imperios | That is kind of what Russians are |
| 21:32.37 | Imperios | Pretty much hur |
| 21:32.48 | Imperios | That is why Russians are bad act actually managing themselves in peacetime |
| 21:32.55 | Monet | Charles-Murray: Instead we got the Inferno incarnate that was the trenches. |
| 21:33.03 | Imperios | Lacking large-scale goals, or a powerful government, Russians are meh |
| 21:33.39 | Tybusen | I wonder if France would have kept their reputation as a military badass into the modern era if they had the foresight to defend against the Nazi blitz |
| 21:34.02 | Imperios | Russians also cannot drive |
| 21:34.17 | drom | Imperios Hachiman Tybusen: http://i.imgur.com/g5tw1i3.jpg |
| 21:34.26 | Hachiman | Your parents are both Russian and Asian |
| 21:34.30 | Hachiman | Awful combination |
| 21:34.42 | Hachiman | drom: hur |
| 21:34.48 | Xho | Jesus died for ur mom |
| 21:34.51 | Tybusen | Hachiman: you got somethin to say about asians |
| 21:34.55 | Monet | There's a WWI section inside AC:syndicate and one of the collectables are letters form the front. I got a sad reading a letter written by an officer looking forward to seeing his daughter only to eb informed the SOmme took his life three weeks later. |
| 21:35.07 | Hachiman | Yes; open your fucking eyes and drive properly |
| 21:35.24 | Imperios | Hachiman: Strangely enough we are good drivers |
| 21:35.25 | Charles_Murray | Tybusen : France is still a military badass |
| 21:35.26 | Tybusen | Joke's on you, I don't drive |
| 21:35.31 | Charles_Murray | Just nobody knows it |
| 21:35.33 | Xho | REKT TWICE OVER |
| 21:35.35 | Hachiman | My point is proven |
| 21:35.55 | Xho | France does have a lot of hidden military power in the present day |
| 21:36.05 | Tybusen | i'll whup ur ass in mario kart m8 |
| 21:36.12 | Xho | Or at least not very much shown in the UK media |
| 21:36.30 | drom | Cyrannian Charles_Murray Xho Hachiman Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/Xgo63nH.gifv |
| 21:36.35 | Xho | UK media is basically MIGRANTS -> ECONOMY CRASHES -> MIGRANTS -> DAVID CAMERON IS A PRICK -> MIGRANTS |
| 21:36.36 | Hachiman | That is what my ex said before she started regretting taking me back |
| 21:36.55 | Monet | For cowards they've lately been awfully fond of increased armed patrols when shit hits the fan in the homeland. |
| 21:37.01 | Xho | drom: Kicathian Agent rituals |
| 21:37.13 | Hachiman | That is because they just suffered a terrorist attack |
| 21:37.23 | drom | Xho: You mean HowToBasic ripoffs |
| 21:37.29 | Tybusen | I wonder how many people know that France is one of only a handful of nuclear states in the world |
| 21:37.30 | Monet | They also did it adfter the Charlie Hebdo incident. |
| 21:37.35 | Xho | Nu - did u just call me a basic ripoff |
| 21:37.42 | Hachiman | They are also acting against civil and human rights as far as I can tell from the media |
| 21:37.52 | Hachiman | Police abusing liberals and free-speech supporters |
| 21:37.59 | Monet | Hachiman: That only supports Charles' point. |
| 21:38.08 | Hachiman | That is not bravery hur |
| 21:38.24 | Monet | It's not pacifism either. |
| 21:38.48 | Tybusen | TBF that sort of crackdown is exactly what'd you'd expect from any country that just suffered a major terrorist attack |
| 21:38.53 | Hachiman | This is part of the same reason we call the United States backward |
| 21:39.00 | Tybusen | I don't think I need to remind anyone about the Patriot Act |
| 21:39.29 | Xho | Cyrannian: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12552530_1650805671840159_8565755503135143258_n.jpg?oh=9261101fdcf6022b4edecd8b87b074e9&oe=57341544 best |
| 21:39.50 | Tybusen | It's easy for us to talk about how "backwards" everyone is, but honestly I'd probably be terrified if a major terrorist attack happened near where I live |
| 21:40.11 | Charles_Murray | Keep in mind that what's usually said about those acts in the media and on social media is usually exaggerated. Even the Patriot act, while definitely impactful, is often misunderstood |
| 21:40.21 | Monet | http://satwcomic.com/nuclear-bombs >Cowardly nation >Has twice the nuclear arsenal of England |
| 21:40.36 | Hachiman | We are a poor country |
| 21:40.36 | Tybusen | It's natural for people to be scared in the wake of a major attack. The problem starts when you let that terror keep hanging over the course of your country for the next ten years |
| 21:41.04 | drom | DrodoEmpire Charles_Murray AdmiralPanda Xho Tybusen Imperios Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/HZ7bvOq.jpg |
| 21:41.26 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:41.30 | AdmiralPanda | aww it's a baby snake |
| 21:42.07 | Monet | drom: That Japan one |
| 21:42.08 | Tybusen | The Patriot Act was actually written before 9/11 but it was 9/11 I think that gave it the push to get passed |
| 21:42.43 | Monet | Tybusen: My understanding is the act was a panic reaction to 9/11 |
| 21:43.08 | Monet | Which included a lot of peopel in the US government trying ot work out what the hell to do now. |
| 21:43.23 | Tybusen | AFAIK, the Patriot Act was already written when 9/11 happened, but the panic following 9/11 made the Patriot Act look like a good solution |
| 21:44.18 | Tybusen | I doubt there was any conspiracy on the timing, but I feel the interests behind the Patriot Act really pounced on the opportunity 9/11 gave them |
| 21:44.46 | Charles_Murray | Well... |
| 21:44.46 | Xho | Technobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12189527_10153626594866422_9141877302116629308_n.jpg?oh=e6c12a2a873380c8d6abea76ce0f9600&oe=572CE715 You in the future |
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| 21:45.02 | Charles_Murray | When it comes to the intelligence community, there are basically two modes it goes through |
| 21:45.04 | Monet_2 | I think 9/11 introduced the world at large to fighting terrorists. It's probably the first time that America has been on the recieving end of a nebulous combatant force. |
| 21:45.52 | Charles_Murray | There are periods where people are screaming about infringements of privacy, and periods where they are under fire for not protecting Americans |
| 21:45.56 | Charles_Murray | And there's no inbetween |
| 21:46.08 | Charles_Murray | 9/11 happened to be the latter |
| 21:46.21 | Monet_2 | It was alien; no evil empire to blame, no foreign nation to demonise. This sort of strange new thing might have been what led to George Bush and his "Axis of Evil" claim. |
| 21:47.35 | Tybusen | Charles_Murray: I think there's been some analysis showing that excessive data collection is part of the reason why terrorists can still slip through the net |
| 21:47.56 | Xho | uxus uf uvul |
| 21:48.41 | Tybusen | Intelligence is far more efficient if it's more selective in its targeting |
| 21:49.04 | Monet_2 | Tybusen: It's like trying to catch one fish using a trawler net and rooting through the catch before it dies. |
| 21:49.17 | Tybusen | That would be my argument against someone who would call for *more* surveillance to enhance our security |
| 21:49.24 | Monet_2 | catch for it before* |
| 21:49.51 | Tybusen | At this point government intelligence is too bloated to do its job |
| 21:50.31 | Monet_2 | I think the other day I once imagined it to rooting for a nedle in a haystack that's being constantly added to. |
| 21:50.31 | Tybusen | The only thing *more* surveillance serves now would be to inch the US closer to a total surveillance state |
| 21:50.56 | Tybusen | Yeah, more surveillance is adding more hay to the haystack you're looking for needles in |
| 21:51.16 | Tybusen | And pretty much all of that hay you added contains no extra needles |
| 21:51.20 | Technobliterator | Xho, lmao |
| 21:51.46 | Imperios | Hachiman: BTW, about what you said about Russian |
| 21:51.54 | Imperios | I agree with you on pretty much everything |
| 21:52.00 | Imperios | BUT I STILL HATE YOU FOR SAYING THAT |
| 21:52.08 | Imperios | ONLY RUSSIANS CAN SAY RUSSIANS ARE SHIT |
| 21:52.10 | Hachiman | What did I say in particular hur |
| 21:52.11 | Monet_2 | I think when peopel cite 1984 htey focus too much on the cameras or the Thought Police. |
| 21:52.29 | Tybusen | People say "why are you worried if you have nothing to hide" but what I'm actually worried about is whether the definition of "what I have to hide" will change |
| 21:52.45 | Monet_2 | What abotu stuf like Two Minutes Hate? Or Room 101, or the creation of heroic biographies for people who never existed? |
| 21:53.19 | Hachiman | The latter part we do anyway |
| 21:53.24 | Monet_2 | What about the soul-crushing monotony of the Corporate office hive? |
| 21:53.38 | Xho | Never read 1984, should give it a go |
| 21:53.48 | Xho | Though I'm not big on reading |
| 21:53.51 | Tybusen | I think a lot of people forget that Orwell did not like Soviet communism nor Western capitalism |
| 21:54.13 | Hachiman | Orwell came across as rather anti-government in general to me |
| 21:54.31 | drom | AdmiralPanda Xho Monet: http://i.imgur.com/iGqgApC.gifv cute rather |
| 21:54.32 | Hachiman | I am hesitant to say socialist either |
| 21:54.43 | Tybusen | He self-identified as a democratic socialist. |
| 21:54.44 | Monet_2 | Or the profileration of ignorance to the masses or...well you get the idea. |
| 21:54.55 | Xho | dum snaek |
| 21:55.29 | Tybusen | If you look closely at 1984, you realize that Western capitalism, while it's not nearly as bad as 1984's society, it does have some of the negative traits displayed in 1984 |
| 21:55.30 | Monet_2 | So it might have been big govrenment rather than simpyl government |
| 21:56.11 | Tybusen | Personally, I don't think there's a problem with big government as long as it stays beholden to its citizens |
| 21:56.24 | Monet_2 | Corporate hives, crap passed off as good food, Newspeak, tug-at-heart stories, keeping the people ignorant etc. |
| 21:56.26 | Tybusen | Any government is bad once it starts serving its own interests rather than that of the public |
| 21:56.40 | Hachiman | A government should serve the state rather than the state serve the government |
| 21:57.03 | Tybusen | Pretty much the Social Contract |
| 21:57.38 | Monet_2 | I imagine a lot of conspiracy theories are shatterd by the statement "in the end none of us know what we are doing" |
| 21:57.41 | Tybusen | We pay our taxes and obey the law, and in return we expect the government to act in our best interests |
| 21:58.01 | Tybusen | Monet_2: Sounds like Occam's Razor to me |
| 21:58.07 | Hachiman | Which most governments certainly do not hur |
| 21:58.38 | Tybusen | Yeah, a lot of modern governments are beholden either only to themselves or to an oligarchy |
| 21:59.25 | Monet_2 | I've had a number of guest speakers at Uni who have passed down that a lot of the executives are easier ot understand when you rtealise they're screwing with your project not out of malice, but because they have no clue abotu its intricacies. |
| 22:00.46 | Imperios | Hachiman: Orwell was an anarchist |
| 22:01.16 | Hachiman | I kind of had a feeling based on his Animal Farm |
| 22:01.24 | Monet_2 | A lot of stories of meddling execs are them thinking about money sure, but in the case of design studios, its assuming that artists are essentially magicians. |
| 22:02.27 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12523914_2027276087295440_1732095433674054835_n.jpg?oh=56e23146d68bc14748ee7ceb51e8b014&oe=574847EF 10/10 |
| 22:02.46 | Tybusen | Imperios: Actually I'm pretty sure he was a democratic socialist |
| 22:03.22 | Monet_2 | One of my first year lecturers is an alumnus who is eternally annoyed at the number of clients he gets who don't realise hwo long it takes to make an oil painting on canvas. |
| 22:04.50 | Monet_2 | Imperios: the titular loction of Animal Farm went downhill when Snowball (Trotsky) was replaced by Napoleon (Stalin) |
| 22:05.02 | Imperios | So you suggest he is a trotskyist |
| 22:05.15 | Tybusen | He was definitely more Trotskyist than Stalinist |
| 22:05.22 | drom | The easy solution against Jedis http://i.imgur.com/wSkGSeT.gifv |
| 22:05.41 | Tybusen | I don't know if he was really fond of Trotsky either, though, since I don't think Snowball is a sympathetic character either |
| 22:06.00 | Monet_2 | Snowbal lis *far* better than Napoleon |
| 22:06.18 | Monet_2 | And Snowball's plan for the windmill was ultimately admirable. |
| 22:06.25 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Except they can deflect blaster bolts. <., |
| 22:06.28 | DrodoEmpire | *<.< |
| 22:06.40 | Tybusen | Well yeah, but I think Snowball also showed signs of becoming authoritarian. Just not to the extent that Napoleon did |
| 22:06.54 | drom | DrodoEmpire: The difference here is he shot with a conventional revolver. |
| 22:06.55 | Monet_2 | I think historically the one weakness of Jedi is fire. |
| 22:06.56 | Tybusen | Which would be pretty close to the real-life Trotsky and Stalin |
| 22:07.11 | DrodoEmpire | Did he? |
| 22:07.17 | DrodoEmpire | Lemme check again |
| 22:07.45 | Tybusen | Both Trotsky and Stalin were probably going to become dictators but at least Trostky didn't conduct a systematic murder of his own people just to satisfy his own paranoia |
| 22:07.51 | DrodoEmpire | I thought I saw a small red tracer there representing a blaster bolt, but alright |
| 22:09.20 | Monet_2 | I like how that scene in Raiders was pretty-mcuh improvised. |
| 22:09.40 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Bullets do sometimes leave red-like tracers, that's the heat trailing behind the launched bullet. |
| 22:09.50 | Monet_2 | The pla nwas for a drawn-out battle between Indy and Sword Guy but Harrison Ford thought "fuck it I can't be bothered" |
| 22:10.25 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Er, not unless its a tracer round. :p I doubt a revolver bullet would be heated up to that level |
| 22:10.39 | Hachiman | Ford has a reputation for improvising scenes and dialogue |
| 22:10.46 | drom | There are other solutions that make tracers highly visible by adding small shells with some kind of powder or material that always leave behind a highly visible color. |
| 22:10.56 | DrodoEmpire | I... Know... |
| 22:10.59 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 22:11.09 | drom | slaps DrodoEmpire with a ruler |
| 22:11.12 | drom | Good ol' times |
| 22:11.25 | DrodoEmpire | But why would someone put tracer rounds in a *pistol*? |
| 22:11.45 | Monet_2 | Dramatic effect? |
| 22:11.53 | Monet_2 | It is a movie after all |
| 22:11.56 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like you're using an assault rifle or machine gun during a night battle |
| 22:13.18 | drom | Anyway. "<Monet_2> I think historically the one weakness of Jedi is fire." Incendiary ammunition is the way to go! |
| 22:13.30 | drom | DrodoEmpire: True that |
| 22:13.36 | Monet_2 | Not quite I mean real fire |
| 22:14.23 | drom | Hmph, flamethrowers |
| 22:14.48 | drom | But good luck with that, given that Jedis have the power ripping them off your hands. |
| 22:15.18 | Hachiman | This is why Clone Troopers used flamethrowers which were attached to their armour |
| 22:15.27 | Hachiman | Or were wrist-mounted |
| 22:16.54 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/ExSwiUN.jpg |
| 22:17.04 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/C3ODZXg.jpg |
| 22:17.22 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:20.00 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 22:21.51 | Imperios | drom: But the heat would melt a bullet |
| 22:24.17 | drom | So this is how it is like to live underwater http://i.imgur.com/x997r7N.gifv |
| 22:25.05 | Hachiman | That looks nauseating |
| 22:25.26 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/KPcnS13.jpg |
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| 22:26.39 | Imperios | drom: bullshit |
| 22:26.52 | Imperios | Everyone knows that snowstorms are a secret Muslim weapon to destroy the Christendom |
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| 22:28.03 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 22:28.15 | drom | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/B4X2jNy.jpg |
| 22:30.36 | Xho | Orchestral musicians in a nutshell |
| 22:38.30 | drom | Monet_2 DrodoEmpire Xho Tybusen: http://i.imgur.com/8nhJMv3.jpg |
| 22:39.18 | Xho | Norwegian black metal took a harsh tumble |
| 22:39.37 | drom | Xho: Death metal |
| 22:39.45 | Xho | dats swedish |
| 22:39.47 | Xho | get ur shit rite |
| 22:40.11 | Monet_2 | JApan wat u doin... |
| 22:40.34 | drom | Xho: thatwasntthejoke.jpg |
| 22:41.07 | Xho | Oh now I get it |
| 22:41.16 | Xho | good one 5/10 took me a while |
| 22:41.28 | Xho | Dunno why I've started suddenly rating everything out of 10 |
| 22:42.01 | Xho | I've lost the communicative powers to give opinions so now it's just numbers |
| 22:49.20 | Tybusen | you gotta go tenouttaten |
| 22:51.00 | drom | WHY DO ANUS HAIR EXIST |
| 22:51.08 | Tybusen | yes |
| 22:51.53 | Xho | I'm officially terrified |
| 22:51.59 | Xho | You've actually managed to scare me |
| 22:55.15 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: I was thinking that a good time period for AWA's offer of friendship to have taken place would be shortly after the end of Cesterity's dictatorship. I don't know if that's what you had planned but I'm just saying that that would likely be when AWA would begin considering pursuing closer relations with the Drodo |
| 22:55.30 | DrodoEmpire | Okay, that's good |
| 22:57.04 | Tybusen | Probably 2809-ish, depends on whether it would be better if the offer was made to the interim government or the National Revival government |
| 22:57.31 | Tybusen | Also the Golden Age calendar shows Cesterity announcing his run for Premiership 3 months after he won it |
| 22:57.43 | DrodoEmpire | Oh shit whoops |
| 22:57.52 | DrodoEmpire | I'm half asleep, sorry |
| 22:57.55 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 22:57.57 | Tybusen | No worries |
| 22:58.37 | Tybusen | I'm just imagining Cesterity waking up in August and being informed that he won the premiership three months ago |
| 22:58.48 | DrodoEmpire | C - Please, I'm just *that* good of a politician. |
| 22:58.55 | Tybusen | Cesterity - some rip van winkle shit goin on here |
| 23:01.00 | Tybusen | Do you think it would be better if AWA made their offer to Cesterity's National Revival government or whatever interim government there was between the end of the dictatorship and the elections |
| 23:01.06 | Tybusen | ? |
| 23:01.46 | DrodoEmpire | How about when he becomes Premier with the NRP |
| 23:01.58 | Tybusen | Alright |
| 23:02.01 | Tybusen | So late 2809 |
| 23:02.49 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
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| 23:07.30 | Tybusen | I have a midterm to take, so I'll see you guys later |
| 23:08.07 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
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| 23:31.33 | Monet_2 | Maximum zug-zug |
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| 23:37.25 | DrodoEmpire | I find it sorta sad that late-game RTW becomes less "Total War" and more "Population Control Simulator 50 BC" |
| 23:37.58 | Monet_2 | It makes sense though doesn't it? |
| 23:38.51 | DrodoEmpire | ...Eeyeah, admittedly |
| 23:38.59 | Monet_2 | At that point you operate an enormous empire with a huge army and probably the only rivals left are jsut as big as you |
| 23:39.13 | DrodoEmpire | Though its frustration with RTW |
| 23:39.46 | DrodoEmpire | As the thing is that after maybe the 30K population mark in a city squalor gets *completely* out of control |
| 23:39.50 | DrodoEmpire | *frustrating |
| 23:40.03 | DrodoEmpire | And no matter what you build to counteract it it doesn't help |
| 23:40.39 | DrodoEmpire | And then your capital rebels, you have to retake it and cut down most of the population to reset the population, and now you're stuck with a shitty, underdeveloped town again |
| 23:41.01 | DrodoEmpire | Its gotten so bad that I've made the peasant 0 turns instead of 1 so I can move population quicker >.< |
| 23:41.10 | DrodoEmpire | *peasant recruitment times |
| 23:42.21 | DrodoEmpire | So now I can uproot maybe 4000 people within 3 turns and move them to the frontier, which helps |
| 23:44.07 | Monet_2 | Unfortunate implications aside |
| 23:44.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 23:44.31 | DrodoEmpire | Still I'm a tyrant in TW anyway |
| 23:44.35 | DrodoEmpire | >:D |
| 23:44.46 | Monet_2 | "Sir the city infrastructure is buckling under the weight of oru population!" "Round up the poor and send them to the frontier" |
| 23:45.02 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:45.32 | DrodoEmpire | To be fair, those people may be able to live better lives on the frontier as now they aren't living in slums, and are instead settlers who might own their own farms |
| 23:45.48 | DrodoEmpire | Though considering the nature of Roman factory-farming, probably not |
| 23:45.49 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 23:46.04 | DrodoEmpire | Or not for long until some asshole Patrician buys them out |
| 23:46.07 | Monet_2 | If they're not killed by random barbarian horde. |
| 23:46.18 | DrodoEmpire | Nah that's what the Legion's for |
| 23:46.27 | DrodoEmpire | They kill everybody there and *then* move in the poor people |
| 23:46.47 | Monet_2 | That's not what I was thinking of |
| 23:46.57 | DrodoEmpire | Right, from abroad |
| 23:47.09 | DrodoEmpire | Well, let's assume this is during the Pax Romana |
| 23:47.10 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
| 23:47.18 | Monet_2 | Farmer enjoys his life on the frontier -> suddenly Barbarian comes and burns his house down. |
| 23:55.24 | Monet_2 | Soldier shouts "Roma Invicta!" -> Rome is lost in an uprising |
| 23:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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| 23:58.07 | Monet_2 | Hello |
| 23:58.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Wormy |
| 23:58.23 | Wormy_ | Watched The Reverant. It was a piece of art. |
| 23:58.28 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 23:58.42 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revenant_(2015_film) |
| 23:58.44 | Monet_2 | Every angle. perfection! |
| 23:58.59 | Monet_2 | ALs oI am told that bear was CG. It was very good CG. |
| 23:59.11 | Wormy_ | The lighting was real lighting too, every scene was painfully shot in subzero temperatures |
| 23:59.30 | Wormy_ | Well, many of them |
| 23:59.49 | Wormy_ | The bear an d all the animals were, except the horses that were riden |
