IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160119

00:00.50dromI love this gif http://i.imgur.com/QFuJPLj.gifv
00:04.35Wormydroiddrom http://imgur.com/gallery/8v2Wlrj
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00:23.37DrodoEmpireSo it seems as though this new "The Division" game is set in a world where the only firearms left are airsoft guns... <.<
00:24.28MonetThat a joke on the sound quality?
00:24.42WormydroidDidn't look like it in the trailer
00:24.50DrodoEmpireNo no. XD
00:25.05DrodoEmpireGameplay itself. People are like bullet sponges
00:25.12DrodoEmpireNot necesssarily bad, just an observation
00:25.28MonetWormydroid: You can get some really convincing-looking airsoft guns.
00:25.39DrodoEmpire^
00:28.01WormydroidNot like Fallout, when people cartoonishly blow up
00:28.39MonetActually that reminds me of a funny comment about The Division's world
00:29.07Monet"A post-apocalyptic future with that has no zombies"
00:31.09The_Randomness*gasps&
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00:44.09WormydroidMonet:  I decided in favour the Ghouls and didn't put the FEV virus into Project Purity.  All because Fawkes is a cool companion
00:45.44MonetPretty sure introducing FEV into Project purity would have killed everyone in the Capial Wasteland
00:46.16WormydroidYeah, it would have left only the Enclave I think
00:46.30WormydroidOr maybe just President Eden
00:51.53WormydroidI'm glad I have Broken Steel to continue the game
00:52.18WormydroidDoesn't make sense an open world-style game should end like that.
00:53.02WormydroidThough the ending is more awesome storywise if the player dies I suppose.
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00:53.42AdmiralPandahi all
00:53.51Wormydroidhi
00:53.55MonetHi
00:55.40WormydroidShould I play New Vegas or Fallout 4 first?
00:57.14AdmiralPandaeither or
00:57.32AdmiralPandanot many chronological references really
00:57.50AdmiralPandaactually I'd probably recommend NV first because you'll get through it faster
00:58.56WormydroidMakes sense, I read somewhere it is short.
01:03.00AdmiralPandathat and it's story is much punchier. do you have all the expansions?
01:05.34WormydroidI have played all the addons apart from Broken Steel
01:05.55AdmiralPandaI meant for NV
01:06.36WormydroidOh, no I only have Fallout 3
01:07.00AdmiralPandaI see, well the expansions for FNV are definitely worth playing
01:07.01WormydroidBut when I do get NV, I will want them
01:21.00DrodoEmpiretest
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01:25.49Quark8test
02:26.26WormydroidCreators of Back to the Future actually based this character on Trump, eery http://i0.wp.com/liberaldarkness.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/maxresdefault-1.jpg?resize=1280%2C720  https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YNvR5HwsBEc/hqdefault.jpg
02:26.33WormydroidMonet
02:27.58MonetI ca nsee the connection
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02:30.32WormydroidWe should have a Donald Trump style character
02:32.42DrodoEmpireolol
02:32.49DrodoEmpireI *do* have Fiihar Jivirik III
02:33.15DrodoEmpireHe's a rich, populist fascist of questionable competency but undeniable determination. :p
02:37.38Wormydroidfits the bill
02:39.08WormydroidThere was a debate to ban Trump from entering UK today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35348885
02:39.13DrodoEmpireYeah
02:39.16DrodoEmpireThat's dumb
02:39.17DrodoEmpire:p
02:39.24DrodoEmpireHe's just a man. No need to ban him from coming
02:39.45DrodoEmpireHe's allowed to say whatever he wants. Mock him in response if you don't like his ideas is what I say
02:40.24WormydroidI prefer Corbyn's idea of inviting him to a mosque in Birmingham and also to meet his Mexican wife.
02:40.30DrodoEmpireolol
02:40.35DrodoEmpireNow *that'd* be funny
02:40.36DrodoEmpireXD
02:40.46DrodoEmpireI have *nothing* against fucking with the guy
02:41.19Wormydroidhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35337622
02:43.06DrodoEmpireThat's a pretty reasonable stance, I like it
02:47.17WormydroidHe's our only politician who appears to break the mold
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02:58.57Wormydroidbye
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03:58.17DrodoEmpireI gotta go
03:58.20DrodoEmpireNight everyone
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08:07.21Liquid_InkAny Canadians here?
08:34.58HachimanDoesn't look like it, sorry, eh
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09:06.51dromLiquid_Ink: http://i.imgur.com/COwSN59.jpg ---> http://i.imgur.com/CzirtLs.webm
09:07.01dromAnd oh, Hachiman, see above message.
09:07.22Hachimanolol
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09:24.38HachimanHi Imp
09:54.34ImpyDroidHi
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13:08.47ImperiosFuck yes
13:08.50HachimanHi
13:08.54ImperiosWon Civ V on Deity
13:08.56ImperiosHi
13:09.03HachimanCongratulations
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13:12.51OluapPlayerCongrats duskie, you officially have no life hur
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13:13.40OluapPlayerruskie*
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13:18.56AdmiralPandahi all
13:19.04HachimanHi
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14:17.11TekDroidHello
14:17.51Eco_Hello.
14:24.41OluapPlayerThat was quick
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14:31.04JepardiHi
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14:37.57MonetJust here for like, five minutes.
14:38.46HachimanHi
14:49.59dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/829Ows8.png --> http://i.imgur.com/qJckqSG.webm
14:50.35Hachimanolol
14:53.44MonetMust dash
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14:55.30Wormydroiddrom, Hachiman, Ghelae Here's an absolutely fascinating article https://www.newscientist.com/article/2073577-black-hole-sun-could-support-bizarre-life-on-orbiting-planets/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC%7CNSNS%7C2016-GLOBAL-twitter
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14:57.08dromWormydroid: I knew it!
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14:58.33HachimanI actually brought this up sometime ago
14:58.43HachimanAbout black holes filling in for suns
14:58.45dromBut the question is, can it sustain advanced lifeforms like us? Saying from the sentence "It is enough to sustain life, but not a civilization"
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14:59.13HachimanI cannot see why a civilisation stemming from a planet orbiting a black hole cannot be supported
14:59.22dromenough for life to potentially exist, but hardly enough to run a civilisation.
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15:01.24WormydroidI think it could support civilisation, but that society would be incredibly slow and alien by our standards.  It has a long time to evolve, at least until the CMB fades out of relevance
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15:09.01WormydroidEnergy could be extracted from the planet too
15:09.18Wormydroidtidal power for example
15:09.38WormydroidI recall even an alien biology using this was proposed
15:12.42dromTidal power isn't new for me though.
15:13.01dromI can recall some sci-fi games exploiting this idea as a source of energy.
15:13.41dromWormydroid: I liek dis http://i.imgur.com/A4UTgxi.webm
15:14.48Wormydroid"palirrhotrophy" - chemical osmosis carried by rhythmic variations in salinity, provided by salty sea water being flushed up a river.  One might imagine it living in somekind of fjord
15:15.50WormydroidOr perhaps it is like a whale, gorgong on photosynthetic plankton living off the sky.
15:16.05WormydroidI like this idea a lot
15:16.29Wormydroid*gorging
15:19.49WormydroidThere are two things that generate knowledge (that we know of in the universe), evolution of genetic knowledge, and creative human knowledge.  If something is physically possible in the laws of physics, then the only limitation is whether the knowledge to achieve something is present there
15:21.42WormydroidEven the vacuum of space, of about 1 cubic light year has enough matter to build a self-contained space station with a colony of scientists.  They would have to achieve transmutation of course, but the point is, it is knowledge not resources, that is key.
15:21.57WormydroidOn the Earth we actually have a wealth of resources, but not knowledge
15:22.20WormydroidLooking at the world this way completely reverses the vision of Jared Diamond
15:29.16WormydroidOne could construct a story about inhabitants on the planet
15:29.55WormydroidWhat happens for example, when the cold black hole becomes choked in a bright accretion disc of matter?  It could be disastrous
15:30.28HachimanIt would be an interesting story for sure
15:30.45HachimanThe sort of thing Baxter might write about maybe
15:31.40WormydroidPossibly, it's a sort of narrative I've seen before in science fiction, like Dragon's Egg and Orthogonal.
15:33.03WormydroidThen one would have to think long and hard about how the society could survive or escape, or engineer a solution.  In Orthoganal, the characters live in a universe with different laws of physics
15:34.01dromYou could deprive one whole planet of resources to the point it can barely hold up its structure.
15:34.09WormydroidIn their universe, to fly out at high velocity in space means that time will pass very long aboard the ship, which is opposite of our experience, while very little passed on their world.  And this was so they could solve an coming apocalypse brought on by their astrophysics
15:37.34dromSpeaking off, I think one planet is enough to produce the navy for a whole galactic superpower, given that its warm core (magma) is made of molten metal and if we oversee the other contents in the magma, such as "worthless" rocks and other elements that are good, but useless for building space vessels.
15:38.12dromI can't do the calculations now, but approx. an Earth-sized one.
15:38.14WormydroidIndeed
15:39.14dromLeaving a large crust of worthless space rock that will sooner or later implode by its own weight or crumble into asteroids.
15:40.09WormydroidIn my version, we could assume that the society's astronomers had noticed the accretion disc forming ahead of time, giving the society time to prepare.  We could factor in time dilation I guess
15:40.48dromBut the idea of depriving the core of a planet is a dangerous version. Because the more mass we deprive from the core, the weaker the planet's gravity will be.
15:40.53drommethod*
15:42.02WormydroidIt might be explosive, our inner core is solid.  Suppose at the temperature it is at, all that pressure above is removed?  Boom
15:42.05dromWithout the right equipment, the miners will be subjected to atmosphere deprivation and other natural catastrophes caused by gravity loss, such as tidal huge waves if the planet has oceans.
15:42.19dromOh yeah. You gotta be careful too.
15:43.45dromYou gotta deal with vaporized magma too.
15:43.57WormydroidIndeed
15:44.07WormydroidHave you heard of a globus cassus?
15:44.40WormydroidHere's an animation of it https://vimeo.com/37377163
15:44.42dromNot really
15:44.55WormydroidThe process of reconstructing a planet into a megastructure
15:48.38dromA impressive but a terrifying idea at the same time.
15:59.00dromHachiman Wormydroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0pNU9htnw
16:00.04Hachiman>jumpscares
16:00.09HachimanIt's shit
16:00.42dromThe ending is better tho
16:01.32HachimanThe jumpscare is still shit
16:01.55HachimanWhen a horror film has to resort to a jumpscare, that means it knows it is not scary
16:03.14Wormydroiddrom:  Welcome to the Anthropocene
16:04.06HachimanAlso that ending could have been easily prevented because professional divers never dive alone and always carry equipment in order to prevent entanglement with the environment
16:04.38WormydroidThat sort of shit has happened to divers
16:04.40HachimanAlso the people on the surface would have seen the sudden influx of bubbles coming from the diver and would have sent somebody to go in and check up on what is going on
16:05.11HachimanYes it has happened to divers; which is why they equip themselves with the means to make sure it does not happen again nowadays
16:05.17dromI'm happy to not be a diver. You don't know what awaits in murky water.
16:05.21WormydroidOne went down to retrieve the body of another diver, the head fell off and the diver panicked, getting caught in something and drowned
16:05.58dromDon't divers have light communication equipment as well?
16:06.06HachimanThey do
16:06.23HachimanThey are given equipment which is designed specifically so that this shit does not happen
16:06.29HachimanOr can be sorted out very quickly
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16:10.20dromWhat terrifies me most is Vice's documentaries.
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16:11.15dromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4koXeZvAfg
16:12.01dromMay the name sound uninteresting, but the life has more dangerous sides than dieases and pests.
16:17.13WormydroidI watch VICE
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16:36.34Wormydroid"And there’s hope in the fact that we conjure up aliens in the first place. We long to be seen by something other than ourselves, because then our own existence is strengthened. Alongside it is this suspicion that perhaps the alien is resting inside ourselves: that while we’re alone in the universe, we don’t truly know who we are."  https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22930553-300-the-visit-what-aliens-would-really-mean
16:36.42WormydroidTrippy as fuck
16:39.38HachimanHuh
16:39.57HachimanDo we get to see the aliens in this film?
16:41.07WormydroidI don't know, but I hope they make the experience uncanny
16:44.38Wormydroidhttp://imgur.com/gallery/cjNF7aa
16:47.34Wormydroidhttp://imgur.com/gallery/MSlk07S
16:51.36WormydroidSurprised Muties can even write http://img.ifcdn.com/images/0a55757624f0b9d7fd68fe98e7ff58c2b296a9b235aca071c5764cb989b82ef0_1.jpg
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16:56.06dromHas anyone read the dystopian novel "1984"?
16:57.53HachimanNot personally but I believe a lot of people know of it and its significance
16:58.18HachimanWormy_away: Not surprising really, Super Mutants are former humans after all even if they have been radically augmented and mutated
16:58.46dromI must say it is a terrifying book to read. It bring light to human psychology and dictatorship, how our psyche is affected by mind control (not direct control, but able to read and scan the thoughts of victims) and deprivation of intelligenc and education.
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17:00.07dromThe said mind control to help the "mind police" to find potential revolutionaries and those with a free mind, to capture them and then earse them from existence, literally.
17:02.24dromThe arrestings happen only during nighttime - the police come to your sleeping room and drag you out of sleep, then you are no more but vapor. That's how they remove opposition.
17:04.04dromOne of the interesting parts of the book, is that it was written in Spain when it was ruled by a facist dictatorship.
17:14.20dromWhich makes me wonder:
17:15.19Wormy_awayHachiman:  Aside from Fawkes, the Super Mutants I have met have trouble articulating sentences, have walked into my gun, and attacked Dogmeat while I aim a missile launcher at them
17:15.27dromHow do the dictatorships deal with potential revolutionaries and "opposition" and how do they find them? Rather than "HALT! YOU DID X, YOU ARE A REBEL SCUM!" and immediate vaporization.
17:19.43Wormy_away"I WAS THINKING, AND IT HURT.  HURT MY HEAD."
17:21.06OluapPlayerIt depends on the Mutants. Not all of them are stupid
17:21.19Wormy_awayTo be fair, I've also heard "I THINK I REMEMBER THINGS, FROM BEFORE.  I THINK I KNEW A WOMAN.  OR MAYBE I WAS A WOMAN, EUGH IT HURTS"
17:21.21OluapPlayerThe Mutants from 1, 2 and New Vegas are fairly intelligent
17:21.58Wormy_awayThere's meant to be different variants of Mutant from around the continent, too
17:22.29OluapPlayerYes. The New Vegas ones came first, then came Fallout 3's variants, then Fallout 4's
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17:35.44HachimanHi
17:35.51Xhoack ack ack ack
17:36.12Hachimanack ack ack
17:37.32Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12400445_829997653795430_7491698879773029867_n.jpg?oh=fb751be173753553f7a88f7a2aebf94c&oe=5707E862
17:37.35Xhodoot doot ack ack ack ack ack
17:37.49XhoHachiman: Very wel
17:37.50Xhowell
17:38.28Hachimanhttps://media.giphy.com/media/xT77XKG8HhoeXegBRm/giphy.gif dog.exe has stopped working
17:38.49XhoGTA V, where everyone but you is made of cardboard
17:39.00OluapPlayerspi
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17:42.14ImperiosHello
17:43.51ImperiosOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://pre08.deviantart.net/9ed3/th/pre/i/2015/363/2/a/phasma_s_fanatics_by_vangarshriek-d9lz4uh.jpg
17:44.12OluapPlayerDon't get it
17:44.21HachimanI don't quite understand
17:44.24XhoIt's a Mad Max reference
17:44.57HachimanWell I recognized the one going WITNESS ME as a Mad Max reference
17:45.16XhoThe shiny and chrome thing's in reference to the spray paint they do their mouths over with
17:45.25HachimanI really need to watch Fury Road
17:45.31XhoIt's good
17:45.43HachimanImmortan Joe looks freaking amazing
17:46.05XhoHe does look quite suped up
17:48.31Hachiman"Professor Suad Saleh, a female professor from the renowned Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt, says that Muslim men are allowed by Allah to rape non-Muslim women in order to "humiliate" them. The professor says that rape is allowed during times of "legitimate war" between Muslims and their enemies."
17:48.54Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12489373_10154503595372067_9031421722442594916_o.jpg
17:49.10XhoQuoting a book written 1,500 years ago
17:49.45OluapPlayerLiterally who
17:50.35XhoAlso it sounds like she's gagging for it
17:50.56HachimanShe is an old woman hur
17:51.17Xhogagging for it
17:52.04HachimanShe claims that not only is the rape of non-Muslim women belonging to the enemy allowed by Allah for Muslim men, but also highly encouraged
17:52.19HachimanAlongside enslaving them
17:53.32OluapPlayerWho is this and why do you care
17:54.02Xhocuz hachi is also gaggin 4 it
17:54.23HachimanA supposedly highly-prestigous professor who works at Egypt's most renowned and oldest university
17:54.37HachimanAnd I care because it's fucked up hur
17:58.35Wormy_awayXho:  Well I listen to dark ambient hur
17:59.01Xho"tibetan throat singing"
17:59.06XhoTibetan throat singing is pretty badass though
17:59.37Wormy_awayGood to meditate with
17:59.57Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY842sum3tE Of course this would be uploaded on by birthday
18:00.12Xhomy*
18:00.32HachimanI do not have an ear for noise
18:00.47HachimanJust as I do not have an ear for grindcore
18:01.20XhoI'm not really a fan of noise
18:01.25XhoDrone I can understand
18:01.28XhoSunn O))) everywhere
18:02.30XhoIf the void had a soundtrack, Sunn O))) would have written it
18:03.08Xho"PRAISE THE SUNN O)))"
18:03.48Hachimanhur
18:05.21OluapPlayerBah
18:05.25OluapPlayer~summon Cyrannian
18:05.25infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Cyrannian's coordinates
18:05.29Wormy_awaySounds like a recording of the Azzathoth's concert
18:06.17Wormy_away*Azathoth
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18:10.55Wormy_awayMonet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_yxgN9I8g
18:11.28Wormy_awayIt is time to take a journey into madness, into darkness.
18:11.39MonetWaaah
18:12.50XhoSantorakh - my microwave sounds like this
18:12.55XhoSounds quite cool though
18:16.05XhoOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_F8L3xZgkg Meanwhile in Insomnia (Might wanna turn your volume down)
18:16.13ImperiosHachiman: Human rights watch when
18:16.32OluapPlayerpig cheese
18:16.50Imperios>Saleh suggests that the only time it is acceptable for Muslim men to enslave a woman for sexual purposes is during a “legitimate war” between Muslims and their enemies such as that with Israel.
18:17.11ImperiosIsraeli slaves will nag Egyptians to death
18:17.26Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzszokZXvak Kicathian mating ritual
18:17.27Wormy_awayI love how all the top comments on videos like this relate to the scale
18:18.56HachimanOh God my sides
18:19.42ImperiosXho: Literally FNaF
18:19.51Xho0/10 die
18:20.34ImperiosYES YOUR NOISE IS LITERALLY FNAF
18:20.58Xho0/10 BURN
18:21.22ImperiosHachiman: That all is very saddening
18:21.32Wormy_awayListen to pure white noise.
18:21.35HachimanEgypt and the Middle East are honestly fucked
18:21.45ImperiosAnd that Salafi-Wahhabi plague is spreading
18:21.57ImperiosNot really
18:21.57XhoWormy_away: I was trying to find that a minute ago, couldn't remember what it was
18:22.38ImperiosThey are not fucked up by nature, they are being held back by the Saudis and their Salafi zealotry
18:22.51HachimanSo what you are suggesting is
18:22.55HachimanSaudi genocide
18:23.19ImperiosNo
18:23.22ImperiosTAKE ALL THEIR OIL
18:23.51ImperiosDismantle the Gulf monarchies too
18:24.07ImperiosThe secular governments like in Egypt and the like are cool
18:25.12ImperiosThe problem with the Middle East is that its MOST backwards country is also its most powerful; what we need to do is to sanction the Saudis unless they straighten up their human rights record
18:25.14HachimanClearly
18:25.26ImperiosLike literally
18:25.41ImperiosHijaz was like the Texas of the Caliphate right until oil was discovered there
18:25.56ImperiosAnd we all remmeber what happened when America was ruled by a Texan
18:26.06Hachimanhur
18:27.18Wormy_awayXho:  Surprisingly calming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FAVZiJKiaA
18:27.22ImperiosAnd these Saudi clerics are spreading their hardcore fundie ideology with them
18:27.50ImperiosChoke them, and the rest of the Middle East will recover
18:27.54ImperiosAt least partially
18:29.05ImperiosAlso, sanctioning Saudi Arabia will lead to the positive outcome of oil prices rising
18:31.40HachimanReally wish the Emperor of Mankind would hurry up and come out of hiding
18:31.58OluapPlayerWhy though, he's a cunt
18:32.31HachimanHe is a cunt but he was also the main reason why humans stopped killing one another before Chaos came along
18:32.34MonetWouldn't simply coming otu and fixing everything do more damage for huma nsociety though?
18:33.04HachimanHuman society is quickly detoriating anyway
18:33.09MonetHachiman: Honestly, we know very little of what the Dark Age of Technology was like. SO that's debateable.
18:33.09OluapPlayerHe's also the main reason humanity is kill
18:33.20Hachiman>humanity is kill
18:33.28HachimanHumanity is the most popular race in the galaxy
18:33.32HachimanWell not popular
18:33.34HachimanCommon
18:34.02OluapPlayerIt also happens to be dying out since it's enemies with 1) all aliens ever 2) demons 3) itself
18:34.13HachimanHardly
18:34.18MonetHuman society is quickly detoriating anyway < so its getting worse than when homosexuality was a criminal charge in Europe?
18:34.19HachimanEldar are more kill than humans are
18:34.20OluapPlayerEasily
18:34.32HachimanAnd there are still billions of Eldar around
18:34.43ImperiosHachiman: But the Emperor is literally space ISIS
18:35.30ImperiosMonet: I do not think that whether homosexuality is legal or not is a sign of a progressive society
18:35.37HachimanMonet: Homosexuality is STILL a criminal charge in Europe
18:35.40ImperiosI mean would you call Sparta progressive
18:35.40HachimanLook at Russia
18:35.49ImperiosHachiman: Nope, we can have gay sex just fine
18:35.59ImperiosAs Veronica has proven
18:36.09OluapPlayerI thought Russia was vehemently against gays
18:36.26ImperiosOluapPlayer: Depends on class, region, and the person in question
18:36.31ImperiosBut it is legal everywhere
18:36.49OluapPlayerBy your description it sounds as if gays are literally Hitler
18:37.10ImperiosNo they aren't
18:37.12ImperiosAnyway
18:37.22ImperiosIt's just that a) you might be beaten in some backwards places for showing homosexuality
18:37.28ImperiosLike for example
18:37.38ImperiosIn Chechnya or in Krasnodar
18:37.41MonetHow about the treatment of mental conditions? In the 1970s, if you were diagonosed with autism or some autistic condition, you were sent ot a mental hospital.
18:37.59Monetpsychiatric hospital (more PC)
18:38.07ImperiosWhile in Saint-Petersburg or in Kazan, it is considered to be okay, if somewhat weird
18:38.17HachimanAnd in 2010, people fake medical conditions in order to get media attention
18:38.25Imperios^ that
18:39.15ImperiosHachiman Monet OluapPlayer: The anti-gay law is basically that you cannot expose children to homosexuality portrayed in a positive way in public institutions
18:39.38ImperiosIt's backwards but not THAT backwards
18:39.49HachimanPeople exposing romance to one another in view of the public is gross anyway
18:39.56ImperiosPretty much yep
18:39.58HachimanWhether they be gay or not
18:40.14MonetHachiman: Sure, but it's not new. People have been committing fraud like that since the early days of insurance premiums.
18:40.39ImperiosThough does not stop anyone from doing so in private
18:41.29ImperiosPride parades are allowed in some cities
18:41.32HachimanI also kind of have to sympathize but not necessarily agree about homosexuals not being allowed to marry in Christian churches in Russia
18:41.50ImperiosIt's the Church's choice
18:42.17ImperiosI do not believe religious institutions should be forced to marry gay people
18:42.26ImperiosIt goes against one's freedom of religion
18:42.27HachimanNo and that is a good point
18:42.35HachimanWhich is why I sympathize with it
18:43.07MonetCome to think of it...Wasn't the emergence of heavy metal met with accusations that it would bring the downfall of civilised society?
18:43.37HachimanAre you implying that heavy metal is bringing down human society?
18:43.46ImperiosYep, that and hip hop
18:43.51MonetAnd didn't the same claims emerge when video games or TV became popular?
18:43.56ImperiosPretty much that
18:44.07ImperiosI do not see why it is relevant to our discussion though
18:44.50MonetIt's why I take claims of "civilisation is decaying" with a grain of salt - it's been claimed before but hasn't come true.
18:45.23Imperios> it's been claimed before but hasn't come true.
18:45.28ImperiosRome
18:45.28HachimanI do not think you can compare heavy metal accusations to the very clear decay of human rights in the Middle East
18:45.33ImperiosThe Abbasid Caliphate
18:45.37ImperiosThe Ottoman Empire
18:45.51OluapPlayerwere not the only people in the world
18:45.58ImperiosBut they decayed
18:46.06ImperiosIt's not like we are talking about the entire world here
18:46.06HachimanThey were some of the most powerful people in the world though
18:46.10ImperiosJust Europe and the Middle East
18:46.11HachimanAs in, globally influential
18:46.19MonetImperios: Those were individual nations and the causes of their collapse were more than just moral decay.
18:46.42ImperiosMonet: But they were essentially civilisations
18:46.44Hachiman>individual nations
18:46.45ImperiosLike ours
18:46.49OluapPlayerThese don't make up all of civilizations
18:46.52HachimanRome was made up of hundreds of countries
18:46.54OluapPlayercivilization*
18:46.54ImperiosRome is bigger than the EU
18:47.37ImperiosAnd the Caliphate was  basically the size of the modern Islamic world sans Indonesia
18:47.37MonetRome's fall for instance has been suspected to have been caused by over-expansion, economic problems, an over-stretched military, gross pollitcal corruption, unrest in frontier regions, barbarian harrassment, religious tension...
18:47.52Imperios>over-expansion, economic problems, an over-stretched military, gross pollitcal corruption, unrest in frontier regions, barbarian harrassment, religious tension...
18:48.01HachimanYou mean issues that still exist
18:49.02ImperiosWestern expansionism, Obamacare, Iraq and Syria, Republicans, chaos in the Middle East, the refugee crisis, the rise of radical Islam
18:49.12MonetWell we're not exactly having a chronic issue of presidents being murdered by their bodyguards or senators.
18:49.22HachimanYet
18:49.46ImperiosTrue that, our political system is somewhat more stable
18:49.49ImperiosBut we're going there
18:50.31HachimanOur only real saving grace is that nuclear deterrance is still in effect and really, aside from North Korea, the threat of a nuclear holocaust is at a decreasing low
18:50.32ImperiosEurope's peak of power has passed I think
18:50.48ImperiosThat would be like early 1900s
18:51.02ImperiosLAte 19th century and early 20th century, that is
18:51.59MonetTHese issues might boil down to a vastly increased information pool. This might sound callous but the issues of human rights in China or Saudi Arabia aren't going to directly contribute to the decline of society in the UNited States.
18:52.29MonetIf anything, we're *more* globally conscious than we used to be.
18:52.54HachimanThe US' human rights policies are still in question in other areas
18:53.41MonetIt seems like every generation has its rights issues
18:54.30MonetThe more well-communicated we become as a species, the more these sorts of concerns become apparent.
18:54.30HachimanFor example, the absolute lack of gun control, an absence of free public healthcare, anti-vaccination movements, rampant racism and fearmongering about foreign cultures and non-Christian religions, etc
18:56.53MonetFifty years down the line I get the feeling that there's going to be outcries from people who are denied the possibility to give themselves animal features on the basis of "it's not right"
18:57.17HachimanYes because that is fucking stupid
18:57.28MonetThey used ot say that aobut transgenders.
18:57.46HachimanYou are not genetically hardwired to think you are an animal in a human body
18:58.14MonetI''m not talking about becoming an actual animal.
18:58.36HachimanWhoever says that is 1) a kinfag, 2) wrong, and 3) ignorant to their own stupidity
18:58.49Comrade_VinnyYou mean, having cat ears greffed on your head or something,ike that?! o.O
18:59.11MonetYeah. I'm suggesting what if people want to undergo a procedure to get a tail, a mane or cat-ears.
18:59.18Comrade_Vinny...
18:59.30Comrade_VinnyI have to agree with Hachi a bit here, it is stupid
18:59.34OluapPlayerLife as a whole would be 10 times better if humans had tails
18:59.43OluapPlayerLiterally an extra arm except it's funnier
18:59.49Hachiman>an extra arm
18:59.55HachimanThat's not how tails work hur
19:00.05OluapPlayer>I've never heard of prehensile tails
19:00.09OluapPlayernigga u dumb
19:00.18ImperiosMonet: What happens in the Middle East is more of a result of Europe declining I think
19:00.42ImperiosLike before the big thing among Arabic and Turkic rulers was Westernisation
19:00.49HachimanYou just want humans to have tails because you're a weaboo fag hur
19:00.50OluapPlayerIt may require manufacturing new kinds of pants though
19:01.01OluapPlayerI'm not the one obsessed with anime here
19:01.25ImperiosNow however they see all that far-left stuff
19:01.29Hachiman>imblygn
19:01.59ImperiosHachiman: But animal ears and tails are cute
19:02.05HachimanNot on a human
19:02.13Imperios^not on a human
19:02.15MonetImperios: If anything the opposition to my scenario proves what I'm trying to say. People used to think wanting to be a woman or to have sex with a man was fucking stupid.
19:02.17ImperiosSays who?
19:02.38HachimanI mean think about it; if you have cat ears, do you have two sets of ears or like no ears on the side of your head
19:02.52OluapPlayerYou have two ears
19:02.56ImperiosThat
19:03.00OluapPlayerOne pair for hearing, another pair for cute
19:03.06OluapPlayerTwo pairs*
19:03.10HachimanIf they cannot hear, they are not ears by technicality hur
19:03.15ImperiosIt is still cute
19:03.21ImperiosIt is an accessory that is good as any
19:03.26Imperios*as good as any
19:03.40ImperiosSeriously of all people you saying animal features on human is disgusting
19:03.42HachimanAlso good luck getting convincing cat ears that are not fucking scary because humans do not have fur
19:03.53Imperios>humans do not have fur
19:03.54ImperiosWhat is hair
19:03.57OluapPlayerHair is fur on your head
19:03.57ImperiosBaby don't hurt me
19:03.59ImperiosDon't hurt me
19:03.59MonetMaybe the next human rights argument isn't trans-speciesism. But right now there is an argument over whether irs right otr become a robot or a mind ina computer.
19:04.00ImperiosNo more
19:04.01HachimanYou would have cat ears made of flesh
19:04.04ImperiosWith hair
19:04.05ImperiosOn it
19:04.07ImperiosLike short hair
19:04.13OluapPlayerWHAT ARE CAT EARS MADE OF
19:04.20OluapPlayerCAT ATOMS
19:04.23HachimanNot the same stuff as human ears
19:04.27HachimanCattoms
19:04.32OluapPlayerfuk u
19:04.40OluapPlayerAlso stop being such a nitpicking faggot pls
19:04.44ImperiosYep
19:04.57Xhoth0ll
19:04.58ImperiosAnyway do you mean like artificially grafted cat ears
19:05.05ImperiosOr just any cat ear accessories
19:05.09HachimanGrafted
19:05.32ImperiosGrafted would look weird
19:05.32HachimanCat ear accessories are cute, actual grafted cat ears on a human being are not
19:05.47ImperiosBut like if you could add them seamlessly it'd be cute
19:05.48ImperiosI think
19:06.01MonetI cannto reliably predict what non-mainstream desire is to be the next social rights concern. But Homosexuality wsa once treated as insanity, or a mental condition.
19:06.07HachimanI think that instead of over-stepping the boundary like immediately is a bad idea; instead of cat ears, we should be more gradual and normalize elf ears
19:06.13HachimanElf ears are cute
19:06.20OluapPlayerThat I can agree with
19:06.42HachimanAlso gotta brb cus dinner
19:06.51OluapPlayerGood, get out, you were getting annoying hur
19:07.04HachimanFuck off and die, you were getting depressing
19:07.16Hachimanj/k
19:07.19HachimanI didn't mean it ;-;
19:07.20MonetBut that's my point: We think we've got all the human rights bases covered, then another concern comes out of the blue.
19:08.02ImperiosMonet: To me, if anyone can contribute to society without causing much trouble, his quirks are acceptable
19:08.03ImperiosHis or her
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19:08.25MonetHi
19:08.30OluapPlayer>you were getting
19:08.36dino82_hello!
19:08.36OluapPlayerJokes on you, I'm already depressed
19:08.42OluapPlayerHi dino
19:08.51MonetImperios: That's a solid suggestion.
19:09.15MonetBut dependso n the person I guess.
19:10.02dino82_how is allz doing?
19:10.10MonetWe have had the rare old man come out and say that trousers on a woman is "unnatural"
19:10.21Monetdino82_: Doing great.
19:10.22ImperiosHachi just went full Claude Frollo again
19:10.39dino82_@Monet: Great to hear! How is Alcanti doing ater the earthquake?
19:11.06Monetdino82_: It was a bit worse than an earrthquake but it is recovering nicely.
19:11.23MonetThee whole planet was deeply grateful for all the support it got from everyone.
19:11.25dino82_@Monet: True :D but great to hear!
19:11.32OluapPlayerI'm doing okay, got a new game as a gift from Hachi
19:11.37OluapPlayerbest game I've played in a while
19:11.38dino82_oh a new game? Nice
19:12.19ImperiosHuh, I wanted to gift you a game but apparently Russians can't give gifts to others in Steam
19:13.24OluapPlayerI believe that's a thing for certain countries. Games are region-locked
19:13.43OluapPlayerSo Russians can only gift to other Russians
19:14.12ImperiosI think it is because games are very cheap here
19:14.25OluapPlayerI think that's it
19:14.31OluapPlayerPeople used gifting as a way to get past taxes
19:15.09MonetOluapPlayer: Getting Dragon's Dogma feels so tempting right now.
19:15.21ImperiosHow much does Fallout 4 cost in your region?
19:15.23OluapPlayerIt's a fantastic game
19:15.30OluapPlayerMine?
19:15.46ImperiosYours yeah
19:15.51ImperiosSame question to Monet
19:15.57ImperiosAnd Charles_Murray
19:16.15OluapPlayerR$229,99
19:16.30Xhodafuq is dat kinda price
19:16.38OluapPlayerBrazilian dollaridoos
19:16.45OluapPlayerGrigori is the best dragon in a videogame ever, period, hands down
19:17.06MonetRUB 4471.74
19:17.18ImperiosSee
19:17.20MonetOr £39.99
19:17.35ImperiosIt costs like 20$ here
19:17.44Monet4.4 thousand rubles sounds like a ton.
19:18.43ImperiosIt kinda is
19:18.52OluapPlayerhttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/360652956748487068/B50B81CD03EE8E66274CDEAE2FF6733376174360/ you're the little guy in the bottom center
19:19.04ImperiosDragon's Dogma?
19:19.06MonetOh wait that explains it. 10 rubles is about 12c
19:19.59ImperiosYep
19:20.20ImperiosIt used to cost more before the oil price dropped though
19:20.23OluapPlayeryes, Dragon's Dogma
19:20.29Monet"Grigori the dragon". Grandiose.
19:20.38OluapPlayerIt's not a new game, but it got a PC release a few days ago
19:20.42ImperiosThe rouble became like 2-3 times cheaper last year
19:20.55ImperiosWhich is really problematic whenever I try to buy something in dollars
19:21.02MonetNow i imagine the dragon with a posh Slavic accent.
19:21.11Imperios>posh >Slavic
19:21.12ImperiosPick one
19:21.15OluapPlayerhttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/360652956748685617/0740C9386F51C8CE31886E00DDEF3AEBC0CC2AF1/ Look at that wingspan
19:21.49MonetImperios: Dracula. Even though he's probably more Ugric but whatever.
19:21.52MonetEastern European
19:21.58ImperiosDracula is like Romanian/Hungarian
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19:22.41MonetAls owasn't polan rather successful during the 18th century?
19:23.02ImperiosYeah true
19:23.09ImperiosBut Polish nobles claimed descent from the Sarmatians
19:23.14ImperiosSo that'd be Iranian
19:23.50MonetKey word there being claimed.
19:23.51ImperiosOr wait
19:23.57ImperiosI know what would be both posh and Slavic
19:24.00ImperiosRussian opera singer
19:24.06XhoThat's about it
19:24.20MonetThere's bound to be some Austrian blood in the Polish lines.
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19:25.51ImperiosGerman too
19:26.09CyrannianHello everyone
19:26.10OluapPlayerI don't think Grigori speaks in any accent. His voice sounds like normal english to me
19:26.14ImperiosI think most Slavic nations have a lot of foreign admixture
19:26.16OluapPlayer~dropkick Cyrannian
19:26.16infobotACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua
19:26.22ImperiosPoles have German blood
19:26.30Cyrannian~slam OluapPlayer
19:26.30infobotACTION slams OluapPlayer against a large cement Tux
19:26.37ImperiosRussians have a lot of Finno-Ugric and Turko-Mongolian influence
19:26.42MonetWait...
19:26.49ImperiosSouthern Slavs and Ukrainians are mixed with Turks
19:27.04Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/Zj672sx
19:27.15OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Rqkvl0AtE 3:23 forward
19:27.36ImperiosOh god that guy
19:27.46ImperiosThat's basically Ma'fest
19:27.57Monet>Grigori >DD is a pastiche of D&D high fantasy >The final boss the Red Threat.
19:28.36XhoOluapPlayer: den dats a british accent                            u phool
19:28.41Imperios>The Red Threat
19:28.45Imperios>Grigori
19:28.54MonetXho: Even ebtter
19:28.56OluapPlayerXho: get eeten
19:28.58Imperioscyka
19:28.59ImperiosCYKA
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19:29.34MonetEven when the game is made by a Japanese ocmpany the villain is a tea-drinker.
19:30.12OluapPlayerHe doesn't sound british to me
19:30.13ImperiosThe Japanese drink as much tea as you do
19:30.14ImperiosOr as we do
19:30.29Hachiman>Hachi went Claude Frollo again
19:30.33ImperiosRussians drink a lot of tea
19:30.35HachimanFuck you talking about heretic
19:30.45Imperios>says cat ears suck
19:30.47Imperios>Hachi
19:31.26dromHow lovely
19:31.32Wormy_awayThis is awesome http://imgur.com/a/q1Vhz
19:32.05Wormy_awaydrom:  I completely forgot to go to a pub run tonight.  Sadfaic
19:32.24dromAt least you stayed sane today
19:32.29Wormy_awayLiterally the running group on a pub crawl
19:33.33HachimanAlso Grigori does not sound British to me either
19:33.42HachimanHis accent is too erotic to be British
19:33.47HachimanExotic even
19:33.47Wormy_awayand running through muddy fields in darkness, its fun
19:34.00MonetIf it's not English the nits definitely channeling the English
19:34.06OluapPlayerBIG DRAGON DILDO
19:34.33HachimanAlso Imperios
19:34.52HachimanI did not say cat ears suck, I was saying that grafting or growing organic cat ears on a human would be creepy as fuck
19:35.06dromWormy_away: "and running through muddy fields from the police in darkness, its fun" FTFY
19:35.37HachimanAnd that people need to normalize elf ears because sensitive pointy ears are <3
19:35.45Wormy_awayTbh you intolerant oppressors, if someone wants cat ears they are entitled to have cat ears.
19:35.57Wormy_awayif it makes them feel right
19:36.03OluapPlayerYou're entitled to go work on Rights of Earth
19:36.05dromew furries
19:36.08Wormy_awayHURR
19:36.41dino82_:D
19:37.17Wormy_awayThough, I'd be concerned for someone's mental wellbeing if their habits/fantasies were ruining their lives like an addiction and it would be moral to help them
19:37.42dromsrsly though, the only furry communities I don't like are those rubbing rule 34 and other vores into everything they create
19:37.49MonetHachiman: I did a backgroudn check, that's Kenpachi behind those scales.
19:37.59HachimanFucking Jesus
19:38.05Wormy_awayYeah, thats annoying
19:38.20HachimanI never would have thought Kenpachi would be the voice for Grigori
19:38.32HachimanAlthough I suppose it kinda fits
19:38.33MonetSo I think it might be an AMerican trying ot channel a British voice.
19:38.50MonetQUestion Hachi
19:39.07MonetWHen you recall the voice, are you recalling the Subvoice or the Dubvoice?
19:39.26OluapPlayerI don't think he's trying to sound british at all
19:39.29OluapPlayerHe just sounds american
19:39.34OluapPlayerHence accent-less english
19:40.05HachimanI cannot really remember
19:40.14HachimanIt has been such a long time since I watched Bleach because it sucks
19:40.51HachimanI generally hate anime dubs though so I probably would recall the subvoice and even then I barely remember that
19:41.04MonetAH
19:41.09MonetWhat's in that video is the Dub actor.
19:41.26HachimanI never would have guessed considering the subvoice for Kenpachi is Japanese hur
19:41.33dromWormy_away: And then we have those communities that fight to make bestiality legal or even erotic with animals on RP games and servers.
19:41.45MonetOkay fair enough
19:42.04Wormy_awayyeah thats wrong
19:43.21dromI mean, zoophilia is an interesting subject, but so wrong at many aspects. Morally speaking.
19:43.50HachimanWhich is why everyone takes the piss out of the British PM
19:44.00HachimanSince he stuck his dick in a dead pig's mouth
19:44.21dromkek
19:44.57Wormy_awayI'm more troubled by the fact him and his group also burned money in front a homeless man.
19:45.31MonetDid they actualyl do that or is that tabloid spin?
19:45.46Wormy_awayIt is part of the initiation into his club.
19:46.07Wormy_awayAssuming any of that book is true.
19:46.22MonetWhich book?
19:46.27Wormy_awayBut I'm inclined to believe stuff like that goes on at these snob parties
19:47.05MonetHachiman: I did some more digging, would it make more sense if I said Grigori is Archimonde?
19:47.15HachimanOh wow
19:47.28HachimanWhy is that not surprising
19:47.50MonetBecause Grigori is a giant bat-winged mastermind
19:48.02HachimanA character from Oluap's worst franchise voices the main antagonist in Oluap's new favourite game
19:48.20MonetOh you mean that
19:49.14dromWormy_away: http://satwcomic.com/art/boys-are-such-weirdos.jpg
19:50.38MonetOkay this guy also did Grand APothecary Putress and Eadric the Pure,
19:50.48MonetBoth of hich iirc channeled the English.
19:54.50dromImperios: http://satwcomic.com/art/two-ways-about-it.png
19:55.19OluapPlayerI just came back
19:55.22OluapPlayerwho u callin worst
19:55.28OluapPlayeru best not be dissin best dragon
19:55.42HachimanWorst as in Grigori is also Archimonde from WoW
19:55.57OluapPlayerArchimonde existed before WoW
19:56.44MonetHe was one of the dreadlords that orchestrated the destruction of Lordaeron.
19:56.45OluapPlayerAlso Grigori isn't much of a mastermind
19:57.01OluapPlayerHe doesn't do any planning. He just steals your heart and challenges you to come after him
19:57.24Hachiman"Nyehehehe"
19:57.49OluapPlayerThe game's plot is basically "this dragon stole your heart, are you a bad enough dude to get it back?"
19:58.47MonetThere's got to be mre to his motives than that, surely.
19:59.02OluapPlayerThere are, but that is basically it
19:59.08OluapPlayerDragon's Dogma is more gameplay than story
19:59.48OluapPlayerThere is a whole cycle of Arisen vs Dragon vs the force controlling the dragon, but the main appeal of the game is the gameplay
20:00.39dromImperios Monet Xho: http://imgur.com/wtB1Rxj.png
20:00.49dromThe english is a bit jarry though.
20:02.10Monetdrom: Funny because when I went to Barcelona last year I witnessed a bit of said instability
20:03.10dromI was in Sicily, we witnessed a strong but calm sense of instability, the population there don't want to be a part of Italy.
20:03.22dromWhen I was*
20:04.02MonetI heard explosions near the new city centre once or twice.
20:04.02dromHachiman Monet Xho Imperios: http://imgur.com/njUKIYd.png
20:05.29OluapPlayerI do like Grigori's wings and how HUGE they are
20:05.37OluapPlayerVideogame dragons typically have rather small wings
20:12.41MonetFrom a design perspective, I guess its so you ca nfit more of the entire body onscreen
20:13.11Imperiosdrom: Pretty much
20:13.40ImperiosMy Japanese friend said the only people he could share a room with in a dorm were Germans
20:13.46ImperiosHe HATED French students apparently
20:14.47OluapPlayerConsidering how big he is, and he's gigantic, larger wings make sense
20:14.59OluapPlayerThey also look very muscular, again not something you see often
20:15.39MonetGrigori's an example of good dragon design.
20:15.57dromImperios: Perhaps the French made racist jokes about Japanese and shat on their cuisine.
20:16.07MonetStill generic (apart from possibly the fin-ears) but the smaller differences are more significant
20:16.37Hachiman>generic
20:16.40OluapPlayerI don't mind generic since he still looks great to me
20:16.43HachimanHe is a European dragon
20:17.07HachimanI like the fact he is not over-designe
20:17.10Hachimandesigned
20:18.06MonetHachiman: Might be channeling one of my lecturers. He tells me that considering the volume of dragons made regularly, it's actualyl a challenge to make a dragon well.
20:18.24MonetOr, possibly more accurately, a distinct dragon.
20:18.56OluapPlayerSure he doesn't have a lot of spikes or horns but he's definitely the most intimidating thing you'll find outside of the expansion pack
20:19.04OluapPlayerThat one has an undead dragon in it which's even worse
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20:30.02dromWormy_away: Make a giant space station from the crust of a planet deprived off its core.
20:32.05dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/YrPupMU.png
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20:41.37ImperiosSeen that
20:41.44ImperiosAnd it's beautiful
20:54.52OluapPlayerXho: http://i.imgur.com/7t8UjRK.webm
20:55.33XhoSantorakh - FIRE AT WILL
20:57.03OluapPlayerXho: http://i.imgur.com/Ln4g1Ov.png?1 also
20:57.16XhoPreston
20:57.17Xhono preston
20:57.18Xhopls no
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20:57.35AdmiralPandahi all
20:58.15dino82_hello
20:58.58OluapPlayerHi
20:59.30Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQZIbyFzdw Inception
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21:00.04GhelaeHello.
21:00.31Imperiosdrom: About furries, like 75% of the stuff they make is super-gross hur
21:01.20dromImperios: 90% of the resting 25% is a hybrid of special snowflake tropes.
21:01.38dromActually, 99,99% not 90%
21:08.58ImperiosOh yes that
21:09.25ImperiosTechnicolor trenchcoat katana wolves
21:09.29ImperiosWait
21:09.45ImperiosWe actually do have a technicolor trenchcoat katana furry
21:09.46ImperiosThat is
21:09.47ImperiosHachi
21:10.21MonetI thought he wore a waistcoat.
21:10.27ImperiosTrue
21:10.35ImperiosBut it's close enough hur
21:10.36ImperiosArtharons too but they are not mostly technicolour
21:10.57MonetI thought they swung broadswords.
21:11.07MonetOr osme kind of straight blade
21:11.09ImperiosI am not sure what they even swing
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21:11.18ImperiosProbably both
21:11.34ImperiosBut yeah Artharon swords are fairly large
21:11.41ImperiosNodachi and/or longswords I presume
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21:12.04ImperiosClaymores maybe
21:12.07DrodoEmpireHI everyone
21:12.19MonetYou made them Chinese did't you?
21:12.19MonetDrodoEMpire: Hi
21:12.20GhelaeHello.
21:13.01ImperiosMonet: Mongolian/Sengoku jidai Japanese
21:13.19ImperiosWith a touch of Meiji and modern Japan and South Korea
21:14.34ImperiosI originally wanted to make them Arabic but I think very little of that remains
21:15.02MonetI think there's a Chinese vibe to them
21:15.20OluapPlayerweeb kittens
21:15.25OluapPlayerNyatharons
21:16.17ImperiosI dunno this was not my intention
21:16.43ImperiosIt was the Divinarium that had some Chinese influence
21:17.43OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh3PNe9cNYA TRAITOR
21:17.50dino82_bye bye all, have to leave
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21:18.55ImperiosOluapPlayer: Spinpatine\
21:19.01ImperiosYou spin me great me, baby, round round
21:19.20OluapPlayerPalpatine has been doing sickspins even before TR8-T0R
21:19.28OluapPlayerTruly he has thought of everything
21:19.55ImperiosMonet Xho Charles_Murray: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/islamic-state-media-outlet-confirms-jihadi-john-is-dead-site/ar-BBorrmw?li=BBnb7Kz YEEEES
21:20.09Xho10/10
21:20.23Charles_MurrayOdere
21:21.13OluapPlayerMSN
21:21.15OluapPlayerThat's a name I've not heard in a while
21:21.24ImperiosFeel the bomb
21:22.44OluapPlayerhttps://56.media.tumblr.com/065651ab3ab7e7c9ee57c1adfa76db2a/tumblr_o12st9PJA21qewacoo1_540.jpg have doggie
21:23.56Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Twilight_of_the_Alliance#Battle_of_the_Hubworld - pew pew
21:24.43ImperiosBoom
21:25.20Wormy_awaySo my dog developed a cough yesterday and now I have a cough.  Hope I've not caught some mutant canine illness that will cause a new airborne plague.
21:26.10OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq_zUr8zG3A
21:26.20DrodoEmpireIts alright, Wormy
21:26.26OluapPlayerCongrats Wormy, you're not a patient zero
21:26.29OluapPlayernow*
21:26.33DrodoEmpirepats Wormy_Away on the back... Or maybe he doesn;t.
21:26.49Wormy_awaysplutters
21:27.06ImperiosWormy_away: Soon you will turn into a dog zombie
21:27.14Technobliteratorhahahahahahahahaha
21:27.24MonetWormy_away: http://www.socialifechicago.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/panic.gif
21:27.27Wormy_awayAlways wanted to be a dog
21:32.35OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SjD0TWxaF0 My sides
21:41.11ImperiosCyrannian: Rie-Arto - I AM TOTALLY A GOOD GUY I SWEAR
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21:49.53Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Twilight_of_the_Alliance#The_Capture - more ebul
21:50.55OluapPlayerVandorallen is an evil bastard
21:50.58OluapPlayerI like him :v
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21:52.14ImperiosWasn't Vando supposed to be a nice guy?
21:52.26Wormy_awayI got one of those hideous audio-only ads on Wikia.
21:52.32Charles_PCVery important announcement http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:209297
21:53.30OluapPlayerHe was always one of Anteddy's acolytes
21:53.39OluapPlayerHe's just not one of the warrior ones
21:56.19CyrannianHis page is pretty outdated, but as Oluap said, he's more of a commander and a scholar  rather than a warrior
21:56.55OluapPlayerThat's why we retconned it so he is Rie-Arto rather than Meketanor
21:57.12OluapPlayerMeketanor posing as a president is like putting a wolverine in a cage filled with puppies
21:59.47ImperiosMeketanor - MUST NOT KILL EVERYONE MUST NOT KILL EVERYONE
22:05.56OluapPlayerExactly
22:11.24XhoAh hell
22:11.33XhoI'm applying for a job and I can't answer these damn questions
22:13.25XhoPay would be decent though
22:13.29OluapPlayerDon't you have a job already?
22:13.35XhoI do
22:13.36XhoI hate it
22:13.38XhoI want another one
22:13.46OluapPlayerFair enough
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22:21.29OluapPlayerSpeaking of hating things, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Hagto%27Zhl I've rewritten this page today
22:21.30OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: c
22:21.49ZF101Hello all.
22:23.31ImperiosMonet: How many Uriels were there in the DI?
22:23.55MonetImperios: How common a name is it?
22:23.58ImperiosAs in, what is the regnal number of the current Uriel
22:24.13MonetSixteenth of House Ultano.
22:24.18DrodoEmpireHi ZF
22:24.31MonetHi Zilla
22:24.53OluapPlayerUriel #1 must've been a popular guy, he's got 15 others copying his name
22:25.04DrodoEmpirehur
22:25.16TechnobliteratorThis is good :o only problem is it links to Valzo and not Valzaria
22:25.50Technobliteratornow I imagine him as a Gratz'kaoz-lite
22:25.52CyrannianHi
22:25.58OluapPlayerfug
22:26.06OluapPlayerI guess you could say that
22:26.21OluapPlayerHe's Gratz but less of a ragetard and acting Loronly
22:26.33MonetOluapPLayer: I noted on his page the name is a corruption of an archaic Alcanti word that means "peacekeeper"
22:27.04OluapPlayerTruth is Hagto'Zhl can't tell the difference and thinks Valzaria is still Valzo
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22:31.10ImperiosMonet: So basically the Draconis version of the name "Vladimir"
22:31.46MonetI suppose so.
22:32.01ZF101Or Bob.
22:32.26Wormy_awayEveryone:  I broke my wiki break to make a comment about Uncharted Expanse or a smaller narrative based on it on that thread.
22:33.08Charles_PChttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:209297
22:34.31OluapPlayer>final defeat of the DCP in Andromeda
22:34.40OluapPlayeri sad
22:34.58Xhou evil i say
22:35.13MonetXA - They started it.
22:35.34OluapPlayerand dey should've bombed all the allies up with black holes
22:35.44XhoI could imagine the Kicath pulling up a chair and watching the fireworks
22:35.44OluapPlayerThat was the problem, they didn't use enough black holes this time
22:36.01XhoAngazhar - well it didn't work with us                      they thought it was useless after that
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22:36.30OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir - it worked on us           those dicks
22:36.48Zilla_PorkchopsLatta.
22:36.50XhoAngazhar - 0/666 succumb to the void
22:37.08MonetI dunno I thought the GXS was good at showing that trying to conquer the DI via attrition is a bad idea.
22:37.19ImperiosCharles_Murray: > Alexandre I of France marries Anastasia Hisan, Princess of the Greater Hal'Sk Empire
22:37.21ImperiosHON
22:37.27Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Twilight_of_the_Alliance#The_Interrogation - the bastardry continues
22:37.39Charles_PCImperios : Hm?
22:37.45Wormy_awayThe DCP wasn't fighting will all it's brute force (because of a disagreement in the DCP council).  It was standing back, making the Civilisation do the work.  The DCP also had less experience in fighting a new kind of enemy
22:37.47ImperiosJust a little bit odd hur
22:38.18OluapPlayerShould've used more black holes
22:38.25OluapPlayerRegardless, check Imperials being dicks
22:38.53XhoMonet: 3.4 million systems                attrition sounds like a bad idea from that number alone
22:38.58ImperiosCyrannian OluapPlayer: Oddly sexual
22:39.13Charles_PCOdd?
22:39.17ImperiosXho: Gimme a random Indian name
22:39.22OluapPlayeru creep
22:39.37XhoImperios: How the hell would I know
22:39.48XhoI'm British, not Indian
22:39.52DrodoEmpireCharles: Two different species(?) I think's what makes it odd
22:39.56ImperiosI can give you a Korean name hur
22:40.01Xhofien
22:40.04Charles_PCThe Hal'Sk are near-human
22:40.14ImperiosPark Moon-Hwang
22:40.16ImperiosOR something
22:40.18DrodoEmpireOh true
22:40.51XhoNandan something
22:41.01OluapPlayerNandan Dannan
22:41.08XhoBatman
22:41.08MonetXho: Its all about comparative scale really. Should be impressive that it's able to resist attrition when against a DCP-Civ partnership.
22:41.15OluapPlayerI'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN
22:41.24XhoTrue
22:41.32MonetThough I admit it did have allies, just not as many as they would ahve liked.
22:41.54Xho"Golden Age of Xonexi"                Angazhar - GOING SLOW EH               NOT WHEN I'M AROUND
22:42.12OluapPlayerUniverse - u stay quiet in ur corner
22:42.26ImperiosMonet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheImperios/Cleanslate_World This was mostly random but look what I made
22:42.33XhoAngazhar - did u not notice           ur actuly in my corner
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22:43.07Wormy_awayI'm not sure what the DCP has to gain invading the DI even if it did eventually end up in a long attritrion war with the DI.  Nor was Emperor Wormulus who could see the DCP would only invade for ideological gain, and that is the great evil that has taken the DCP in the last few years
22:43.38XhoKaas Gerot        Sanotrakh - well how did i come up with that one
22:44.06ImperiosSo ultimately it was more of a conflict of ideologies
22:44.09CyrannianImperios Monet: I was reminded of a Star Wars opening crawl hur
22:44.18ImperiosThat was my intention hur
22:44.28Wormy_awayYes, started by a proxy war between the DCP and DI really
22:44.34GhelaeNeeds four dots in the ellipsis then.
22:44.41OluapPlayerTHE GALAXY WAS KINDA SHITTY                 THERE ARE DEMONS OUT THERE             ALSO ANDASIUM PRICES ARE GOING UP            GOD HELP US ALL
22:44.53XhoKithworto - should've allied with the empire
22:45.20Imperios>ANDASIUM PRICES GOING UP
22:45.34XhoI suppose the Dominion might start popping up in places after 2811, they've been quiet since 2797 and for anyone who's generally keeping an eye on the Dominion, that's like a dormant supervolcano
22:45.55OluapPlayerDormant volcanos can go centuries dormant hur
22:45.55XhoCyrannian: Which reminds me that we ought to do that story
22:46.05XhoSantorakh - u think i can wait a century
22:46.07ImperiosRemind me who are the Space Russians and Space Arabs in SporeWiki
22:46.13CyrannianIs that the Avalotur story or the Demon monster story?
22:46.15ImperiosAs in who mines the most Andasium
22:46.18XhoDemon Monster
22:46.23OluapPlayerYou and you because you're obsessed with nationalities
22:46.24XhoWell both
22:46.24CyrannianOoh
22:46.38OluapPlayerwats dis about deemun monster
22:46.55DrodoEmpireImperios: lemme get the page
22:47.22XhoPax Infinitus Armada gets called to some location, find out the Dominion's waking up again
22:47.28DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AAndasium
22:47.34OluapPlayerGavakar - awful
22:47.37XhoBasically have to stop a fuck-huge demon monster from emerging in the universe
22:47.38Wormy_away"Tensions emerge from the CYRANNIAN SHADOW to the East, where a NEW EMPIRE seems to have come into prominence"
22:47.43Wormy_awayMakes me think of China
22:47.54OluapPlayerBoolet Imperial products
22:47.59OluapPlayerBootleg even
22:48.00XhoGOD DAMN CYRANNIANS              BLOWING UP OUR SHITTY WARRS
22:48.15MonetDraconis - The Cyranninan Tiger is on the RISE!
22:48.27ImperiosWormy_away: I was basically unsure where to add Cyrannian stuff because I did not discuss the idea with Cyr yet
22:48.37Wormy_awayDCP - Huh, they're nothing.
22:48.38OluapPlayerAnyway if this is a Mou'Mou Accords thingy, can I be in it pls
22:48.56Cyrannianbwahahaha the Xonexi Cluster will be overwhelmed by cheap Cyrannian take out food fufufufufufu
22:49.05ImperiosCyrannian woks
22:49.17Wormy_awayThat is a reference to the racism of European leaders and generals toward the Japanese Empire
22:49.25ImpyDroidversus DCP burgers
22:49.45Charles_PCFrance - Gobbles up Cyrannian takeout food.
22:49.46OluapPlayerXonexi - we're free from war               Cyrannus - ACK ACK ACK ACK
22:50.01Charles_PC^
22:50.03DrodoEmpireWormy: SAying Japan was nothing? No, that was just a projection that turned out to be inaccurate. :p
22:50.06OluapPlayerBorealis is the only safe place left, and that's saying something
22:50.43MonetOluapPlayer: In 2806 it was.
22:50.47ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire: Well they did actually suck at World War 2
22:50.49CyrannianTyranus - Those Borealisans, coming over here, taking our order
22:50.51MonetXonexi peaceful again now.
22:50.55OluapPlayerAnd still is
22:51.11MonetWar's over by the present day.
22:51.11OluapPlayerXeron - FILTHY DINOSAUR BLACKS
22:51.16Charles_PCI think he means in the Cyrandian Cluster
22:51.20XhoMaknagrius - that'ssssssssssssssss a nice galaxy you've got there                  would be a ssssssssshame if sssssomething happened to it
22:51.35OluapPlayersilly he doesn't speak with sssssssss anymore
22:51.41XhoSantorakh - tufffffff
22:51.49DrodoEmpireImpy: Yeah Japan was always a pretty unstable empire, but militarily speaking it turned out to be surprisingly powerful
22:51.51OluapPlayerur wrong 4eva
22:52.01MonetIdunno, Cyrannina started by confusing the universes
22:52.07Charles_PCIs this a good time to mention that andasium prices are going to crash after the GXS?
22:52.12DrodoEmpireUntil they messed with the USA. Who became even *more* militarily powerful even quicker
22:52.12XhoMaknagrius has perfect opportunity to go demonic crusade on Borealis -> Prefers to sleep on Snake Mountain
22:52.25XhoHez'Kalka's workforce is 2lazi
22:52.32OluapPlayerMaknagrius - need thousand year beauty sleep
22:52.34ImpyDroidYes I think we kinda mixed up two things here too hur
22:52.41XhoHez'Kalka - ding dong u gummy worm
22:52.42Wormy_awayDrodoEmpire:  The Brits saw the Japanese as inferior, stemming from racial prejudice.  It is one of the reasons Singapore was lost.
22:52.53OluapPlayerMaknagrius will do things when I ever get the next Borealis war going
22:53.03DrodoEmpire*did* it stem from racial prejudice? :p I'm genuinely curious
22:53.05OluapPlayerWhich, by my current motivation rate, will be never
22:53.09ImpyDroidThat Star Wars thingie of mine was basically an AU
22:53.10Cyrannianooh you're planning on another Borealis war?
22:53.18OluapPlayerI am
22:53.28OluapPlayerBut I have no plot for it yet
22:53.31ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Junction?
22:53.46OluapPlayerI'm gonna keep as far away from them as possible
22:53.51ImpyDroidRovegar planning a pussy riot against everyone else?
22:53.58OluapPlayerYes actually
22:54.30OluapPlayerRovegar manipulate the PCA into going into war with the Ganthorea, Kondrakar take the opportunity to go full demon crusage on both
22:54.39OluapPlayercrusade even
22:54.46ImpyDroidSo the Old Guys war
22:54.54OluapPlayerYep
22:55.06OluapPlayerOld empires having a new war for dominance, and the PCA is caught in the cross fire
22:55.08ImpyDroidWHIPPERSNAPPERS
22:55.18GhelaeCharles_PC: Andasium prices crash -> andasium companies all become poor -> Cyrannian takeout food industry dominates the universe's economy
22:55.23XhoHez - wow the snake actually woke up
22:55.32MonetAncients - We've had enough of these scrubs. We wanna be important again!
22:55.36OluapPlayerMaknagrius - GALAXY DIES WHEN THE SNAKE WAKES UP
22:55.59XhoKrath - i kno the importance of beauty sleep                            wake me up and u all dai
22:56.14OluapPlayerMaknagrius would be this war's equivalent of Regnatus thematically
22:56.25ImpyDroidNow I imagine the Rovegar looking like the old Madonna
22:56.27OluapPlayerHorrifying invincible evil who's worse than the main antagonist
22:56.35OluapPlayerThe main antagonist being Vileraz IV
22:56.42Charles_PCGhelae : Actually, andasium prices crashing will be amazing for Xonexi economies
22:56.46XhoAngazhar - lul bak to square 1 with u
22:56.50Charles_PCNot great for economies dependent on Andasium production though
22:57.11Charles_PCGhelae : But yes, I welcome Cyrannian takeout food
22:57.12OluapPlayerHer goal is the dismantle of her old enemies and the PCA, imposing the Rovegar as the rulers of Borealis
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22:57.25GhelaeSo I assume the Xonexian takeout food industry will also become quite powerful.
22:57.28XhoI wonder whether the Xhodocto and Co are instrumental in keeping the Gigaquadrant under control
22:57.49XhoWhenever the Gigaquadrant grows too prosperous or powerful, the Xhodocto throw a stone at it
22:58.04OluapPlayerGigaquadrant - he broke my window AGAIN
22:58.08ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: The galaxy will bend their knee before the Vietnamese Hooker
22:58.20MonetMaybe it's coincidence?
22:58.30OluapPlayerwell u get no sexy times with her
22:59.08ImpyDroidXho: Xholtron
22:59.25OluapPlayerI will also mention this war will bring an end to Vekaron's participation in fiction
22:59.31OluapPlayerIf it ever happens
22:59.34ImpyDroidDo they kill people by throwing Serbian towns at them
22:59.40XhoSantorakh - THERE ARE NO STRINGS ON ME                                             srsly where the fuck are my strings
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22:59.42ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: So he will retire basically
22:59.49OluapPlayerCorrect
22:59.56XhoSerbian towns, entire star systems
23:00.03XhoGiant blocks of cheese
23:00.44XhoI would put a giant planet-destroying block of cheese in fiction if it weren't for the fact that Santorakh would completely lose his credit as an all-powerful psycho
23:00.47ImpyDroidWait so Xhods are like the way to stop civilisations from becoming godlike
23:00.47OluapPlayerI may as well be open about the story since I don't know if I'm doing it, but it will end with Vekaron retiring from the Penumbra Unit to live the rest of his days in peace at Zoleia with his daughter
23:00.56Charles_PCAnyone is free to add stuff the the timeline. I'll be adding things as I think of them.
23:00.57ImpyDroidDuh
23:01.01XhoImpyDroid: Could very well be from a wiki point of view
23:01.17XhoKilchárunya - no job                                              kicath.exe has stopped working
23:01.38OluapPlayerActually his associates would be offered to be promoted to full Penumbrans
23:01.43OluapPlayerKilchabitch included
23:01.50XhoKamaris - srsly hao
23:02.25XhoImpyDroid: It was always the Xhodocto's way of annihilating existence once they deemed existence to be too unruly for it to continue, though the Xhodocto appear to have fun with this universe in particular
23:03.07ImpyDroidI remember my friend saying he believed this was the Reapers' motivation before ME3
23:03.08CyrannianThey sorta remind me of the Reapers in that regard
23:03.14ImpyDroidHivemind
23:03.16Cyrannianhohoho
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23:03.20OluapPlayerGardin will become a Penumbran and also become Hachiman's gf
23:03.31XhoJo says the Xhodocto are very Reaper-like, which is true
23:03.34ImpyDroid>Hachiman's gf
23:03.39ImpyDroidNEVER
23:03.47ImpyDroidHACHI MUST ALWAYS BE SINGLE
23:03.47OluapPlayeryus, it will happen
23:03.58OluapPlayeri will take hachi's virginity
23:04.00XhoThey're abominable existence destroyers who basically re-create and destroy
23:04.38GhelaeThe Xhodocto are basically the reason why no Zhulultu-like supercivilisations dominate the entire observable universe. Particularly in the sense that something something War of the Ancients = Zhulultu went extinct.
23:04.51OluapPlayerThe Rovegar will become peaceful under a new ruler and stop manipulating people. Vileraz IV is gonna ded though
23:05.01XhoThough the creation side is rarely explored because the Gigaquadrant ultimately couldn't fathom nor experience the Xhodocto fashioning a entire universe right in front of them
23:05.08ImpyDroidSo my friend believed that the Reapers create life to toy with it
23:05.19ImpyDroidAnd destroy it to keep their own supremacy in the galaxy
23:05.26OluapPlayerGanthorea are gonna ded in their entirely, Maknagrius will be all "drats and nasties, i will be back" and slither back to his mountain for thousand more years of sleep
23:05.33ImpyDroidThis is actually a very interesting motivation
23:05.47XhoHez - gtf bak heer
23:05.56OluapPlayerMaknagrius - non zzzz
23:06.52XhoIf the Xhodocto do toy with life it comes with the terrifying premise that the entire continuity of the Fiction Universe is of the Xhodocto's doing
23:07.02XhoGenerally considering what the Xhodocto are that's both true and false
23:07.29ImpyDroidThey are partially aware that they live in a story aren't they
23:07.47XhoIn a sense
23:07.48GhelaeThat can also be taken to imply that the Xhodocto are in-universe representations of us users.
23:07.58OluapPlayerI don't know if I'll ever get this done, let alone started, since I'm having a writer's block, I have little inspiration to work on the Fictionverse nowadays and I don't know if anyone other than the typical 3 users would be interested in being involved
23:08.03ImpyDroidXhodocto - OUR CREATOR -- IS A FUCKING IDIOT -- HE ALSO STINKS --
23:08.13CyrannianI'm Dhazhrak *twirls in his skirt*
23:08.13ImpyDroidI would
23:08.15XhoI'm wearing aftershave right now thank u very much
23:08.18OluapPlayerlel
23:08.26ImpyDroidBut that would slow down the entire thing hur
23:08.26OluapPlayerYou're part of the typical 3 users hur
23:08.39ImpyDroidWait does that include you
23:08.42OluapPlayerThat would be you, Xho and Hachi
23:08.47Xhoxhu
23:08.54OluapPlayerSpo
23:09.21OluapPlayerYou're the only ones I do fiction with in a somewhat regular basis
23:09.34OluapPlayerThe only other person I do fiction with is Cyrannian
23:09.43MonetOluapPlayer: Could try reaching out.
23:09.43OluapPlayerand he's been deader than actual dinosaurs until recently
23:09.45Charles_PCI could see if I could get involved? ^.^
23:09.50Xhublame skyrim
23:09.52XhuAnd the nords
23:10.12OluapPlayerfuk nords, argonians only gud race
23:10.20CyrannianArgonians are bae
23:10.34XhuRedguards cuz max warrior
23:10.36CyrannianBut I've been playing as a High Elf on my PC playthrough
23:10.38Xhuhak unt slash
23:10.38ImpyDroidThe French Empire taking on the Ganthoreams
23:10.46Wormy_awayDrodoEmpire:  The British has the time genuinely believed the Japanese to be mostly small in stature from agricultural life, unable to see at night etc.  It didn't help that many stationed had never experienced much training or seen any battle, and didn't anticipate that the Japanese were very capable of crossing jungle which was left relatively undefended.
23:10.46XhuCyrannian: dreadful
23:11.01Cyrannianno u
23:11.02DrodoEmpireWormy: Right. I see.
23:11.03MonetI'm confused
23:11.13OluapPlayerI also have difficulty writing non-character based war stories
23:11.20Xhupew pew
23:11.21Xhudun
23:11.29MonetDoes bae mean 'cute' or 'crap/shit'?
23:11.29OluapPlayerdat shit writin get off ma wiki
23:11.31ImpyDroidCharles_Murray: French soldiers take the remains of the plants and add them to their cheeses
23:11.39XhuMonet: Depends on the language
23:11.49MonetOne of my friends once called a rabbit that bit her bae
23:11.54OluapPlayerThen get mind-warped into servitude because that's exactly how the Ganthorea spreads
23:12.26Charles_Murraylol
23:12.26ImpyDroidThe cheese commands us
23:12.34OluapPlayerSantorakh wins
23:12.47XhuSantorakh - wow
23:12.54OpelSpeedsterMonet: In danish, yes, bae means shit
23:13.10CyrannianI think it means "before anyone else"
23:13.17OluapPlayerI thought bae was slang for "babe"
23:13.28DrodoEmpireIt is
23:13.29MonetIt is
23:13.30DrodoEmpireIn English
23:13.31XhuSantorakh is secretly French, would make sense considering his high fashion and general liking of food
23:13.43OluapPlayerSantorakh - hon hon hon DIE
23:13.46Xhuc
23:13.57Cyrannianhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bae
23:14.03ImpyDroidBae sounds like a Korean name
23:14.06GhelaeI've heard legends that it's an acronym as Cyr says, but I personally believe that the word was coined because "babe" is just too much effort to say with that second consonant in it.
23:14.07XhuThe psychotic side is probably...hm
23:14.19OluapPlayerDIE DIE DIE hon
23:14.21OluapPlayerdere
23:14.33XhuThat's just a slightly French version of Angazhar
23:14.39OluapPlayerhur
23:14.52MonetFrom my knowledge, 'bae' can mean 'babe', 'cute', 'sweet' 'shit' 'BAE Systems'
23:14.53Monet#English
23:15.00ImpyDroidhttps://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EB%B0%B0 I was right
23:15.12ImpyDroid배 • ‎(bae)
23:15.35XhuSo in Japanese, haramu means 'to become pregnant'
23:15.39XhuTHAT IS ABSOLUTELY HARAM
23:15.48XhuPREGNANCY IS HARAM
23:16.08ImpyDroidAnd that is why Islam never spread to Japan
23:16.20DrodoEmpirehttps://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0391/93/1428433220648.jpg
23:16.20ImpyDroidAll Japanese Muslim women had to become childfree
23:16.32Xhuc
23:16.46OluapPlayerI just noticed in that timeline
23:16.59OluapPlayer"French Republic joins the French Colonial Empire. Becomes French Empire."
23:17.03OluapPlayerIndocs - never trust baguettes again
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23:17.17WormydroidI want to hit someone if they say 'bae' in real life.
23:17.26DrodoEmpireSame. >.<
23:17.29DrodoEmpireSuch a dumb word.
23:17.29MonetOluapPLayer: Reunification is such as weet thing.
23:17.43Moneta sweet*
23:17.44OluapPlayerIndocs - we want our investiment back you shits
23:22.09Xhu"If you think the God of Madness plans, mortal, you're in for a right stuffing. A stuffing of your-own-head-down-your-throat variety!"  I'm gonna use that for Santorakh's general motto I think
23:22.39Charles_PCOluapPlayer : The French Empire is no longer at odds with the DCP, though. By that point, they're fighting on the same side
23:22.52Charles_PCAnd they end up as allies defending the Milky Way together
23:23.00XhuKicath - these humans
23:23.08OluapPlayerSee a normal person would take that into consideration
23:23.22OluapPlayerBut you underestimate the stubbornness of the Dracogonarious
23:23.56MonetDraconis - Isn't that a little prejudiced though?
23:24.12OluapPlayerDracogonarious - grudges 4 lyf
23:24.30MonetDraconis - That's...not actually very rational
23:24.32XhuI do wonder why the Dracs and Kicath don't get on as well as they should
23:24.32OluapPlayerWhoever empire that participates in the DCP's first defeat will forever be seen in a negative light by them
23:24.55OluapPlayerThey DON'T appreciate of their allies being put in danger
23:25.05XhuBoth of them tend to go full exterimination akbar during war time
23:25.07Charles_PCFrance - :(
23:25.23Xhuextermination*
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23:26.09OluapPlayerThey don't get along because you never show the Kicath interacting with them
23:26.13ImpyDroidSo they will keep fucking up Frenchies
23:26.21XhuKicath - wrex                    Dracs - shepard
23:26.31OluapPlayerAnd, as of recently, because Kithworto decided to become BFFs with Cyrannian Satan
23:26.50CyrannianEmpire - :3
23:26.53XhuKithworto - is cuz i am also satan                there are many satans
23:27.09OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir - u will be welcome heer *points at own mouth*
23:27.11dromNS is also "BFF" with Empire, never forget
23:27.30XhuKithworto - u cruisin 4 knuckle sandwich u oversized purple dingo
23:27.43OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir - LITTLE TOY SOLDIER
23:27.46drombtw, NC is dead. *insert "All hail X" line here*
23:27.48XhuKithworto - |>
23:27.58OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir - <>
23:28.08XhuKithworto - suddenly feel disgusted
23:28.15OluapPlayerlel
23:28.23OluapPlayerThis reminds me of an edit I was meaning to make
23:29.42XhuI can guess Kithworto's main premise of allying with Tyro is the quote "If you only saw the level interdimensional motherfuckery I saw"
23:29.50Xhulevel of*
23:30.09OluapPlayerSantorakh - universe is cheese regardless nice pants btw
23:30.19XhuKithworto - better than urs
23:31.01ZF101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ug-3tNM_Gc
23:31.10Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Twilight_of_the_Alliance#The_Killer_of_Stars - pssst the name is a hint
23:31.33OluapPlayerAs quoted from mine and Cyrannian's plans
23:31.33dromThe fuck is 'bae' as a word anyway?
23:31.36OluapPlayer"Billions are le ded, Imperials twirl mustaches."
23:32.58XhuCyrannian: +1 relationship to Angazhar
23:33.24OluapPlayerThaurlathron - get off my galaxy demon ssssssscum
23:33.28XhuTen billion people killed in a fiery hellstorm, Angazhar would love that
23:33.35ImpyDroidCyrannian: Nakatar in metal bikini when
23:33.40OluapPlayerew
23:34.39dromXhu: They already did that in "The Force Awakens"
23:34.40Technobliteratoryou'll get that reference when you watch Return of the Jedi, Oluap :P
23:34.46Technobliteratoralso, I like the name of the section
23:35.10OluapPlayerI already watched that
23:35.16Technobliteratoroh, you did?
23:35.18OluapPlayerA Basileus in a metal bikini is ew
23:35.23TechnobliteratorI thought you just watched Empire
23:35.26XhuSantorakh - nonsense
23:35.28OluapPlayerI've watched all of the original trilogy you dum
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23:35.33Technobliteratoroh huh
23:35.37ExternalHi
23:35.37CyrannianOoh did you like Jedi?
23:35.43OluapPlayerYes
23:35.55OluapPlayerAll three movies were good
23:35.57Xhuewoks tho
23:35.59OluapPlayerBut the second one was the best
23:36.08XhuEmpire is the best of the three
23:36.08Technobliterator^this is the only correct answer
23:36.10Cyrannianaye
23:36.15OluapPlayerEwoks belong to Angazhar's stomach
23:36.38XhuAngazhar - nah              santorakh would flay them and use their skin in a puppet show
23:36.51ExternalWhy the Ewoks?
23:37.03dromToo much fluff
23:37.04XhuSantorakh - cuz my hand is large enough to use them as sock puppets
23:37.20TechnobliteratorEwoks were pretty awful
23:37.27Technobliteratorbut they're the only reason Lucas was able to make the film
23:37.38XhuActually I imagine Santorakh would probably used the bloodied flayed mess of flesh rather than the skin, the skin's too predictable
23:37.47Technobliteratorthe people were unwilling to sign for Return of the Jedi because Lucas wanted a huge budget
23:38.04CyrannianThey blink in the special edition, because that was clearly a crucial problem in the original
23:38.09Technobliteratorso he rewrote the Wookiees as the Ewoks and promised them huge merchandise deals
23:38.12Technobliteratorand then they let him do it
23:38.24ExternalI can't help but think that the only reason why the Ewoks exist is so that Lucas could make a movie
23:38.28Technobliteratorso the Ewoks are the sole reason we got a third film
23:38.34ExternalFuck you beat me to it
23:38.57XhuIf the Empire played Fallout 4 that act of destroying a star system would've come up with a [Angazhar loved that.] message in the top left corner
23:39.15OluapPlayer[Santorakh ate cheese to that.]
23:39.18XhuAngazhar - ANOTHER STAR SYSTEM 'NEEDS YOUR HELP'
23:39.27OluapPlayerSantorakh - STOP GIVING ME QUESTS
23:39.37XhuAngazhar - ANOTHER STAR SYSTEM 'NEEDS YOUR HELP'
23:39.41Cyrannian[Erissare was aroused by that.]
23:39.46OluapPlayernasti
23:39.48Technobliteratorhowever, the Ewoks were the precursor to The Phantom Menace
23:39.58OluapPlayerbrb dinner
23:40.06Technobliteratoryou do not need to watch that, or any of the prequels, Oluap, unless you're VERY curious
23:40.06CyrannianI'm not sure what to make of Fallout 4, it just made me want to play Skyrim
23:40.11dromCyrannian: Which reminds me of a Shadowrun RPG story.
23:40.15ExternalMobileErissare has a sex drive that's just...weird
23:40.17TechnobliteratorI didn't enjoy Fallout 4 :/
23:40.33TechnobliteratorI don't think it's a bad game, I just think it's not for me
23:40.37Xhu7.5/10 I gave it
23:40.52XhuFallout 3 10/10 and New Vegas 9/10 so far
23:41.07CyrannianI randomly exploded a lot while playing
23:41.14XhuWelcome to Fallout
23:41.17TechnobliteratorI have no idea why Bethesda are hailed as some gods of RPGs and massive industry savers
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23:41.37Technobliteratorand fail to see how so many people can get past the...just annoying clunkiness in a lot of their games?
23:41.38ExternalMobile_DAMMIT
23:41.40XhuFallout 4's a good game but it's terrible as an RPG
23:41.51XhuIt's more an FPS than an RPG
23:41.58Xhuan
23:41.59Xhua
23:42.05dromIf you want a proper FPS-RPG, try Borderlands
23:42.12XhuBorderlands is great
23:42.14CyrannianI've been playing Skyrim since 2011, though only recently on PC now that I have that can run it. There are some seriously amazing mods out there
23:42.20ExternalMobile_I think it's just Skyrim but with guns and nukes.
23:42.22XhuThough I never played Borderlands past the first one
23:42.25MonetTechnobliterator: Some people are rather familiar with Bethesda's UI skills
23:42.35TechnobliteratorYeah, the problem is, it's the RPG elements that I hate about Fallout 4
23:42.36dromBorderlands 2 was pretty good imo
23:42.54TechnobliteratorI didn't like Borderlands 2, it's awful for singleplayer
23:43.05dromThough it gets a bit bald after finishing the whole story.
23:43.08TechnobliteratorI would love it if it didn't basically force you to play co-op
23:43.42XhuFallout 4 is a retrograde step in Fallout's game lineup though
23:43.47dromI managed to plow the whole storyline in singleplayer.
23:44.05dromAll I needed was iron will, patience and a huge stockpile of healing items and ammo.
23:44.13XhuI've yet to play New Vegas all the way through it but I will assume that New Vegas may be my third 10/10 game
23:44.16TechnobliteratorI don't know how you managed that, at all
23:44.38dromWell. Where did you stop, do you think?
23:44.38Technobliteratorwhat was your first? Soul Calibur something?
23:44.51XhuOh I don't count Soul Calibur in that ranking
23:44.58XhuJust out of Bethesda games
23:45.09XhuOr anything not Soul Calibur actually
23:45.14TechnobliteratorI don't remember, but I stopped fairly early on, was just tired of the combat and didn't find it fun
23:45.15ExternalMobile_What was your first?
23:45.22XhuOblivion
23:45.26dromMy first 10/10 game was AOEII
23:45.30dromBecause WOLOLO
23:45.35Technobliteratormy first was MGS3
23:45.39XhuMy proper 10/10 game was Soulcalibur II
23:45.41DrodoEmpireAOEII is life
23:45.44Technobliteratorsecond FFVI
23:45.52Technobliteratorthird Uncharted 2
23:46.03TechnobliteratorI have a very different test in games to you people. : |
23:46.05XhuSoulcalibur II, Soulcalibur III, Oblivion and Fallout 3 are the four best games I've played
23:46.13dromSecond was RCII, then Sims. Then came some PS2 games.
23:46.31TechnobliteratorJak and Daxter and R&C were classics
23:46.35Technobliteratorbut alas
23:46.40Technobliteratorno one makes games like that anymore
23:47.05CyrannianAh I remember Spyro: The One with the Dragon Eggs on PS1
23:47.10dromMy favorite all-time PS2 games were the Sly Cooper raccoon franschie, Jak X, R&C:Gladiator and the first two CoD games.
23:47.13CyrannianI played that constantly
23:47.14MonetAr ethey RPGs?
23:47.24XhuMy favourite PS1 game was Crash Team Racing
23:47.29MonetI thought they were platformers.
23:47.31DrodoEmpireHmm... I'd say that, in no particular order, my all-time favourite games are AOEII, EUIV, Shogun2TW, RTW, HL2, and maybe something else
23:47.31ImpyDroidMy favlurite games ever would probably be Warcraft III and Civilisation V
23:47.36ImpyDroidMaybe Dawn of War
23:47.44dromAaay ImpyDroid
23:47.47dromWC3 was the shit
23:47.48Technobliteratordrom, you are officially awesome for being a fan of Sly and those games
23:48.01ImpyDroidMy first game was Lego Creator: Harry Potter hur
23:48.04TechnobliteratorMGS3 was the best game on PS2 though
23:48.08XhuMy least favourite game of all time is probably Shadow the Hedgehog
23:48.11ImpyDroidI loved to build shit
23:48.12XhuWhat the fuck was that all about
23:48.17DrodoEmpireI really like Romance of the Three Kingdoms/Nobunaga's Ambition, but I mean I haven't played enough to say they're my favourites
23:48.22TechnobliteratorShadow the Hedgehog was...kinda...odd
23:48.34ImpyDroidAlso World of Warcragt
23:48.35dromEdgy?
23:48.37CyrannianSkyrim, SimCity 3000, GTA V, EaW and of course Spore are among my favourites
23:48.39XhuI never got past the second level because I literally had no idea what was going on
23:48.49ImpyDroidBut you would kill me if I said it is the best game every wouldn't you
23:48.49DrodoEmpireOh yeah Spore
23:48.54Technobliterator|oh, I like GTA V as well, even though I never finished it
23:48.57DrodoEmpireThat was the other game I was looking for
23:49.00ImpyDroidWell Spore is a given
23:49.00Technobliteratorand Empire at War too
23:49.03MonetI have too many passions to list in a handful
23:49.07TechnobliteratorImpyDroid, not really
23:49.10MonetI like Simcity though.
23:49.11ImpyDroidThis is fucking SPOREWiki
23:49.11TechnobliteratorI dislike Spore, for one
23:49.14dromGTA V and Spore were good, but I wouldn't put both as 10/10s or favorites.
23:49.22XhuSpore I'd give 8/10
23:49.26DrodoEmpireImpy: I'm not the brightest person you'll ever meet.
23:49.28ImpyDroidYou dislike it because you can't make anything in it hur
23:49.28TechnobliteratorI think it is a terrible game outside of its creators
23:49.37ExternalMobile_Skyrim, Assassins Creed Syndicate, and Fallout 4 are my favorites. I keep a modern list.
23:49.38XhuGTA V 8.5/10 probably
23:49.38ImpyDroidIt is a good game for kids
23:49.43Technobliteratorno, I dislike it because its gameplay is bad
23:49.50ImpyDroidMy sister likes the game play
23:49.51CyrannianSpore has longevity purely because of the wiki for me.
23:49.56ImpyDroidPretty much
23:50.06TechnobliteratorYes, the wiki is basically the only thing I got from Spore
23:50.07dromTouche
23:50.13CyrannianBut yeah, I would hardly call it 10/10
23:50.20XhuSpore's creational capabilities is probably unparalleled on an accessible level
23:50.23Technobliteratorthey need to make a sequel that is actually good
23:50.24ImpyDroidIt is 7,5/10 dunno
23:50.33XhuUnless you want to suffer an intense learning curve in 3D modelling
23:50.35TechnobliteratorI have confidence it can happen
23:50.36dromI'd put those as 5/10:ish
23:50.43ExternalMobile_I think GalCiv 3 shouldnbe used for ship pictures instead of Spore. far more detailed.
23:50.57Technobliteratorno
23:50.59ImpyDroidAs for the rest, as I said
23:51.02XhuIt's not SporeWiki if we start using pictures from other games
23:51.03Technobliteratorthis is SporeWiki
23:51.08dromXhu: Depends on the software, Blender is hard to get used to, but once you become used to it, it is a great experience imo.
23:51.09Technobliteratorwe should use images from Spore
23:51.34DrodoEmpireTech, it... Doesn't hurt to use other games
23:51.35XhuSome things like the human portraits are probably better than Spore but then again humans are stupidly hard to get right
23:51.40DrodoEmpireEspecially if they're better looking
23:51.43TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire: yes it does
23:51.49The_Randomness?
23:51.52Technobliteratorthe whole point of the wiki is that it's a Spore wiki
23:51.53dromI created one of my spaceships outside Spore, and I'm officially using it.
23:51.55dromfite me
23:52.03ImpyDroidAm I the only MMO guy here
23:52.07The_Randomnessno
23:52.07Technobliteratorit should be based on your creations in that game
23:52.08dromNo
23:52.09ImpyDroidWoW was the shot back then
23:52.13ImpyDroidthe shit
23:52.16Technobliteratorno, I like FFXIV
23:52.17XhuI don't mind things like using other programs to create things if the original idea was conceived in Spore
23:52.20dromBut I don't play MMO anymore
23:52.22CyrannianOh and the Old Republic is my favourite MMO, followed by STO and ESO
23:52.22Technobliteratorso I guess I'm an MMO person
23:52.24ImpyDroidSWTOR and GW2 are good too
23:52.31XhuIf I had good enough skills in 3D modelling I'd go ahead and do a Kicath
23:52.34TechnobliteratorKOTOR!
23:52.38TechnobliteratorKOTOR is an epic game
23:52.39MonetTechnobliterator: Loving only one MMO doesn't count.
23:52.46ImpyDroidSWTOR has a good storyline
23:52.51DrodoEmpireTech: No, it really doesn't hurt to use it for like human portraits. Plus the fictionverse has very, *very* little to do with spore anymore except for the original inspiration
23:52.58ImpyDroidGW2 has good gameplay and artstyle
23:53.04dromI was pulled off by SWTOR's paywalls
23:53.05XhuThe best MMO I've played is called Life
23:53.06TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, then the fictionverse is doing it wrong
23:53.06ImpyDroidWoW has the most content
23:53.17ExternalMobile_Well, when I explore it, I'm gonna use some GalCiv 3 pics anyways. Seriously.
23:53.19DrodoEmpireTech: And you have the god-given authority to say that>
23:53.20DrodoEmpire*?
23:53.24XhuActually no Life can be insanely buggy sometimes
23:53.25dromWoW was the best before Catalysm imo
23:53.33ImpyDroidCata was so-so
23:53.41ImpyDroidBut I liked the artstyle
23:53.48TechnobliteratorNo, I have the authority of the Terms of Use, and of the history of the site
23:53.49MonetTo be fair for a fanfiction site we do very little Spore-related fiction.
23:53.52ImpyDroidLike really it was ver pretty
23:53.57dromYeah, the new artstyle was cool. But the gameplay became shit
23:53.59The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: Seriously?
23:54.05XhuWell all of our creations are from Spore
23:54.08TechnobliteratorThe Terms of Use prohibits anything illegal
23:54.09XhuThat's the main link
23:54.15The_RandomnessWhy are you suddenly on the warpath now?
23:54.17ImpyDroiddrom: Thing is they just started making less content
23:54.24DrodoEmpireAnd nothing we're doing is illegal?
23:54.33dromImpyDroid: I don't see why the hype around Hearthstone?
23:54.41dromI played it, and I didn't like it.
23:54.49ImpyDroiddrom: It is a good casual game
23:54.51The_Randomnessdrom: More like plebstone amirite
23:54.54Technobliteratorwe can't legally justify uploading an image without a license - and if that license is not that it's UCG in Spore, it's not used on this wiki
23:54.58dromI guess card games are nothing for me
23:55.13Technobliteratorso no, everything should be made in Spore
23:55.14ImpyDroidI like it but it is not something extraordinary
23:55.21Xhuhttps://www.facebook.com/GhostKillerEntertainment/videos/1666615393604995/?permPage=1 This is how I imagine the Gigaquadrant after 2811
23:55.35dromThe_Randomness: In that case then, the nerds studying a year before us are all incomptent plebs. :)
23:55.36Technobliteratorbut no one (including me) will enforce that
23:55.39Technobliteratorso I guess you're ok
23:56.16dromOH OH OOOO
23:56.23ImpyDroidXhu: There is still Andromeda
23:56.25dromI almost forgot Kingdom of Hearts 2
23:56.30dromIt was so awesome!
23:56.34XhuImpyDroid: dominion tho
23:56.34TechnobliteratorKingdom Hearts? it was ok
23:56.39ImpyDroidExactly
23:56.52ImpyDroidIt is now shit hur
23:56.56OluapPlayerBAAAAH
23:57.07DrodoEmpireTechnobliterator: That's right. :p
23:57.32dromYou all calling KH "ok"?!?
23:57.35dromHeresy!
23:57.48XhuAndromeda looks like it's definitely going down the Dysnomia path
23:58.01XhuOr something close to it
23:58.06TechnobliteratorI still think it's stupid, this entire wiki is based on Spore, and so everything should be based on a creation made in the game at the very least
23:58.19Technobliteratorand any image uploaded should be legally justified
23:58.21ImpyDroidProblem is, like OP, I will probably never do the next Andromeda arc
23:58.37OluapPlayerLike I said, Borealis went from dystopian shithole to safest place
23:58.55Technobliteratoranything made in the game is legally justified, fanart is legally justified, I can't see a legal justification for using images from another game
23:59.02DrodoEmpireTech: And everything, at its core, is in some way *inspired by the game*.
23:59.13DrodoEmpireUsing the game as a way to make fanart, perhaps
23:59.23dromTechnobliterator: So what are you saying is that we need to host a seperate website for Fictionverse & Fantasyverse if we are going to resort to other asset creation tools than Spore?
23:59.25Technobliteratorunless those images were also UCG
23:59.27ExternalMobile_Xhu: Eh? What do you mean?
23:59.35MonetI wonder if it is fair to say that as we've matured we've come to realise that there are more ways to realise our fiction than Spore.
23:59.51DrodoEmpirePlus we're not making money off of this, and I doubt we'd be breaking the law for doing something that is, at is core, a screenshot of a game
23:59.53MonetAnd as far as fanfiction goes, and as has been said before, oursi s very loosely connected
23:59.55TechnobliteratorNo, what I am saying is that you shouldn't say they have absolutely nothing to do with the game, which is false

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