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| 00:28.00 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/teamdelorean/videos/10153363570254767/?permPage=1 I wonder whether this is how the Orichalcum Elves dealt with human rebellions |
| 00:30.21 | Monet | Elf - *slaps human's face off* cut that shit out! |
| 00:31.00 | Monet | Xho: I added a building and some framework to the city today. |
| 00:31.16 | Monet | in Minecraft* |
| 00:31.41 | Xho | I saw |
| 00:31.48 | Xho | twas good |
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| 00:32.07 | Xho | I added a tier to that tower in the castle thingamabob |
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| 00:32.57 | Hachiman | Hi Panda |
| 00:33.01 | Monet | I am getting the inclination to expand the main plaza |
| 00:33.55 | Hachiman | So apparently Bethesda have said that TES VI will be their largest roleplaying game yet |
| 00:34.06 | Hachiman | This worries me because of how empty Skyrim was |
| 00:34.18 | Hachiman | Large open space with fucking nothing in it |
| 00:34.29 | Xho | nevur |
| 00:34.38 | Xho | I sure hope they get their shit together |
| 00:34.42 | AdmiralPanda | the empty spaces were empty, but each location was excellently planned out |
| 00:35.05 | Hachiman | The problem was that there was more empty space than there were meaningful locations |
| 00:35.12 | Monet | There was always somewhere ot explore though. |
| 00:35.42 | Hachiman | Yes but not much exploration that was rewarding |
| 00:35.42 | Monet | Hachiman: I liked that honestly. Gave the region a wilderness feel |
| 00:35.44 | AdmiralPanda | let's be honest here, Bethesda does excellent world building- everyone knows that them and CD Project Red should just make out and give us the Cyberpunk game we deserve |
| 00:36.12 | Monet | As well as a decent emulation that villages have histoprically been rather self-contained 'worlds' ffrom the perspective of villagers. |
| 00:36.29 | TekDroid | The emptiness does make actually finding something more meaningful. |
| 00:36.51 | AdmiralPanda | ^ especially when each location is so thoughtfully put together |
| 00:36.59 | Hachiman | I found Skyrim boring and dull honestly and I regret forking out full price on release for it |
| 00:37.32 | AdmiralPanda | then you don't like open world games |
| 00:37.39 | Monet | Actually I think the modding community might have welcomed the empty space. |
| 00:37.54 | Hachiman | I am all up for world-building and open world games but I would prefer if Bethesda actually filled their world with shit |
| 00:37.55 | Monet | "Bring on the player-made towns!" |
| 00:38.10 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: tbh, you could give the modding community an empty grey box and they'd have a blast :P |
| 00:38.25 | AdmiralPanda | Hachi, we were just talking about the fact that Skyrim IS filled with great locations. |
| 00:38.33 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: WHat can I say, I try to be optimistic. |
| 00:38.35 | Hachiman | Yeah it has great locations when they are present |
| 00:38.50 | Hachiman | But I also said that there is more empty space than there are great locations |
| 00:39.03 | Hachiman | And I personally found exploration rarely all that rewarding |
| 00:39.07 | Monet | Well Skyrim IS a region that's still rather untamed. |
| 00:39.26 | AdmiralPanda | Skyrim's density of locations isn't much different from Oblivion or Morrowind's |
| 00:40.02 | AdmiralPanda | of course there's going to be legwork between locations, because the alternatives are either a linear story, or a central hub with portals, neither of which would work at all |
| 00:40.30 | TekDroid | Weren't the first or second Elder Scrolls games practically full size? Thought I saw that before. |
| 00:40.55 | Monet | I've played WoW on and off since the vanilla release and honestly, sometimes empty space can be good if it's presented right. |
| 00:40.59 | AdmiralPanda | for their time yeah, they were on the small side compared to modern games but they were pretty big previously |
| 00:41.15 | Monet | TekDroid: Yeah but that was back i nthe days where characters were sprites. |
| 00:41.16 | AdmiralPanda | pretty big compared to contemporary games* |
| 00:41.22 | Hachiman | Eh I suppose that is fair enough and kudos to Bethesda for the amount of lore and story they put into their games' backgrounds alongside the rather memorable location design, but I felt Skyrim was rather eh |
| 00:41.41 | TekDroid | Monet: And I think it was all procedural too so more empty and repetitive probably |
| 00:41.52 | AdmiralPanda | so yeah, clearly you're just being Hachi hating everything :P |
| 00:42.01 | Hachiman | I'm really not |
| 00:42.11 | Hachiman | I do not hate it for the sake of hating it |
| 00:42.55 | AdmiralPanda | TekDroid: Arena at least was prettymuch entirely randomly generated |
| 00:42.55 | Monet | I heard the PS version of Dragon's Dogma was somewhat empty. Can't verify though |
| 00:43.17 | Hachiman | I would be fine with all of the empty space if I actually felt compelled to go through them; the combat is what let me down the most about Skyrim and did not make me feel excited at all to fight anything which probably contributes to why I found it boring |
| 00:43.42 | Monet | Arena: Explore the entire empire of Tamriel. Just bear in mind that 90% of it is randomly created. |
| 00:43.51 | Hachiman | Dragon's Dogma is very open and non-linear yeah but there is always stuff to do while you are on the move |
| 00:44.01 | AdmiralPanda | well duh the combat's terrible, this is Bethesda we're talking about |
| 00:44.11 | Hachiman | Plus the combat for Dragon's Dogma is <3 |
| 00:44.17 | Monet | Skyrim's combat for me was a little better than Oblivion |
| 00:44.25 | AdmiralPanda | Dragon's Dogma just had a ton of encounters along the roads didn't it? |
| 00:44.35 | AdmiralPanda | or am I thinking of another game |
| 00:44.39 | Monet | pre-determined |
| 00:44.58 | AdmiralPanda | yeah it was Dragon's Dogma, always the same encounter in the same place, with your hirelings never being surprised XD |
| 00:45.16 | Hachiman | hur |
| 00:45.25 | Monet | I mainly prefer Skyrim's combat because past around level 15 on Oblivion *everyone* was a dmage sponge. |
| 00:45.36 | Hachiman | Yeah Dragon's Dogma is not perfect but I found it far better than Skyrim |
| 00:45.41 | Hachiman | And far more compelling |
| 00:45.49 | AdmiralPanda | ^ agree with that, though I dislike the fact that shield bashing replaced being able to keep up the shield and attack over it |
| 00:46.09 | Hachiman | Yeah that is rather confusing |
| 00:46.10 | AdmiralPanda | well not exactly attack over it, but you used to be able to hold block so your shield would come right back up the moment your attack finished |
| 00:46.29 | AdmiralPanda | shield bashing being the useless thing that it is |
| 00:46.57 | Monet | I stopped playing Oblivion when I was leve l23 and tried to traverse an oblibvion gate. Passed one of those "no way back" terrain obstacles and soon after encountered this nigh-unkillable mob. |
| 00:47.34 | Monet | levle 23* |
| 00:48.00 | AdmiralPanda | I got to about 25 and the same happened |
| 00:48.29 | AdmiralPanda | discounting the difficulty slider, they definitely fixed that for Fallout 4 |
| 00:48.40 | AdmiralPanda | higher difficulties are the usual "Give everything more health!" |
| 00:48.53 | Hachiman | I remember watching a guy stream himself playing a Khajit who specialized in punching things through either Morrowind or Oblivion, cannot remember which |
| 00:48.54 | AdmiralPanda | but at normal difficulty everything makes perfect sense in terms of how survivable it is |
| 00:49.52 | AdmiralPanda | deathclaws are a little on the easy side though |
| 00:49.55 | Monet | Being a veteren of WoW, it was a change of pace to encounter tracts of land where there wasn't some massive terrain feature or town. |
| 00:50.16 | AdmiralPanda | I mean if you meet them early you're dead, but once you have a decently upgraded laser rifle you're good |
| 00:50.30 | Monet | THen again my immersive side also never really liked the abundance of enemy towns bigger than your own. |
| 00:51.01 | AdmiralPanda | my immersive side never really liked MMO towns period |
| 00:51.30 | Monet | "Welcome to Westfall, your hub of Refuge Pointe is two bunkhouses and a tower. The county capital isn't far from here but its overrun with bandits." |
| 00:51.55 | Monet | Then there's Goldshire. |
| 00:52.40 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair the bandit thing isn't entirely unreasonable, typically anywhere not a major city had bandit problems |
| 00:52.50 | AdmiralPanda | regional guards mostly being focused on said city |
| 00:52.53 | Hachiman | This is why the Seven Samurai |
| 00:53.27 | AdmiralPanda | basically |
| 00:53.45 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: Westfall had a horrible bandit problem, but unfortunately Moonbrook was the only sizeable settlement in the game region. |
| 00:54.10 | AdmiralPanda | fun fact: the Aztecs were so serious about taking prisoners to sacrifice, and their roads were so regularly patrolled, that they had no bandit issues for the majority of their reign, to the point that women could take any trail alone at no risk |
| 00:54.27 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 00:54.36 | Monet | Refuge Pointe got a bit better in Cataclysm when they decided ot build a wal laround it |
| 00:54.46 | Hachiman | Aztecs did not fuck around |
| 00:55.06 | Monet | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/d/d5/Goldshire.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090109060022 Welcome to Goldshire: Five minutes from Stormwind, population (acording to the RPG) 15,000 |
| 00:55.09 | AdmiralPanda | they really didn't, when they ran out of places to invade they arranged mock wars between standing armies |
| 00:56.37 | Hachiman | Never before has there ever been such a nation as aligned towards Khorne as the Aztecs |
| 00:57.13 | AdmiralPanda | next minute, sun is made of corn flakes |
| 00:58.52 | Hachiman | I remember we had a discussion the other day pertaining to what would have happened if the Incan Empire and the Aztec Empire encountered one another |
| 00:59.07 | Hachiman | Which was highly unlikely if not impossible given the sheer amount of distance between them |
| 01:00.38 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.41 | AdmiralPanda | for a moment I thought you said mayan and aztec, and I was just like "those guys had centuries between them" |
| 01:01.55 | Hachiman | hur |
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| 11:04.27 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 11:04.49 | Hachiman | Hi sweetcheeks |
| 11:05.10 | AdmiralPanda | snuggles Hachiman like he's an Irish maid |
| 11:05.27 | Hachiman | <3 |
| 11:05.56 | OluapPlayer | So you shake him so he'll tell you where his pot of gold is |
| 11:06.04 | AdmiralPanda | I succumbed and got a maid outfit mod for F4 and put Cait in it |
| 11:06.08 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: Precisely |
| 11:06.12 | AdmiralPanda | although more sexual |
| 11:06.27 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12410543_353167411520314_198658697336769003_n.png?oh=aeedc4b9b54d62398c53e54382447106&oe=573E918C |
| 11:07.31 | AdmiralPanda | I thought Gaul was one of the ones they did kinda poorly though |
| 11:08.30 | AdmiralPanda | also that just reminded me that the druid in Obelix and Asterix was named Getafix |
| 11:08.40 | AdmiralPanda | to this day I have never stopped laughing |
| 11:09.01 | Hachiman | olol |
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| 12:15.50 | Monet | hi |
| 12:16.25 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:16.45 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 12:18.37 | Monet | Random bit of trivia, I remember one of the early encounters with a carriage in AC:Syndicate involved the driver saying to his horse "move it you stupid animal!" |
| 12:21.37 | AdmiralPanda | o..k.. |
| 12:22.02 | Hachiman | Do not see entirely why that is trivia hur |
| 12:22.52 | Monet | Just something that was in my head |
| 12:23.11 | Monet | Probably because both Evie and Jacob are quite respectful to the carriage horses they use |
| 12:24.22 | Monet | Yeah that might ahve been it: Jacob was saying things like "walk on by" and "whose a good horse?", then out of nowhere I hear "Move it you stupid animal!" |
| 12:24.43 | Hachiman | I stopped playing Assassin's Creed after AC3 and realizing that the series thrives off of a gimmick with little consistent innovation |
| 12:24.59 | Hachiman | Oh and that the story on the non-historical side is getting increasingly stupid |
| 12:26.08 | Monet | I mostly like it for the historical exploration. |
| 12:27.11 | Monet | Although while it might be my relative inexperience with famous Victorians it seems Syndicate relies a little more on fictoinal figures. |
| 12:27.18 | Monet | than previous games |
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| 12:27.39 | DarcySupremest | ayo |
| 12:28.00 | Monet | hi |
| 12:28.35 | Monet | I do feel a little embarrased that the moment I got into a carriage my driving habits immediately switched to "GTA Mode" |
| 12:29.40 | Monet | Not the best idea in the narrow and-or busy streets of 19th century London... |
| 12:29.46 | DarcySupremest | Grand theft horse? |
| 12:30.20 | Monet | I remember PC Gamer went with "Grand Theft Carriage" |
| 12:32.13 | DarcySupremest | I wouldn't be lying if I said stealing a horse and cart and going on meglomanical ramages through the streets of london, doesn't appeal to me |
| 12:32.34 | DarcySupremest | what is this game? |
| 12:32.45 | Monet | I mostly travel around London by zipline nayway |
| 12:32.49 | Monet | AC: Syndicate |
| 12:33.15 | Monet | Guess I can't blame that driver's behaviour though: London at the time was a place where depite being a centre for innovation, the populace were convinced a that Spring-heel Jack was stalking the back-alleys of Lambeth. |
| 12:33.34 | DarcySupremest | Oh, how is that? |
| 12:33.44 | DarcySupremest | Is it high on the uh..."Unity" scale? |
| 12:33.51 | DarcySupremest | if you feel me? |
| 12:34.06 | Monet | Not sure what you mean |
| 12:34.49 | Monet | Are you referring to bad AI? |
| 12:35.02 | DarcySupremest | I'm refering to Assassin Creed Unity |
| 12:35.03 | DarcySupremest | as in |
| 12:35.06 | DarcySupremest | hialriously unplayable |
| 12:35.24 | Monet | Quite the opposite actually |
| 12:35.34 | DarcySupremest | Yeah I was hearing that from others |
| 12:35.52 | DarcySupremest | I guess Ubisoft couldn't risk...fucking it up that bad again |
| 12:35.55 | DarcySupremest | for lack of a better term |
| 12:36.49 | Hachiman | Just because it is playable by comparison to Unity does not mean that it is necessarily a great game |
| 12:37.10 | Hachiman | I hear that it is not very innovative when compared to AC3 or Black Flag |
| 12:37.38 | Monet | To be honest, Black Flag's pirate ship gimmick is hard ot top. |
| 12:38.48 | DarcySupremest | It really is like |
| 12:38.52 | DarcySupremest | a miracle that game got made |
| 12:39.02 | DarcySupremest | given that Ubisoft is terrified of taking risks |
| 12:39.52 | AdmiralPanda | and what made people consider the series might not be dead, you could market an entire game based on those mechanics |
| 12:40.15 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: I think they did. |
| 12:40.24 | DarcySupremest | That is also true, its very fun to just move around in those games |
| 12:40.31 | DarcySupremest | running about is so satisfying |
| 12:42.35 | AdmiralPanda | and then they made it batman |
| 12:43.05 | Monet | I don't blame them too much for that because everyone's doing Batman. |
| 12:43.07 | Hachiman | I thought Batman became Assassin's Creed? |
| 12:43.21 | DarcySupremest | Batman became assassins creed |
| 12:43.26 | DarcySupremest | and instead of changing to stand out |
| 12:43.32 | DarcySupremest | Ubisoft in turn became batman |
| 12:43.40 | DarcySupremest | because thats selling really well and is a safe bet |
| 12:43.45 | AdmiralPanda | Honestly, the Arkham games stood out a ton |
| 12:44.25 | Monet | I think the grapple-line works in Syndicate. Navigating the city by rooftop would be next-to-impossible otherwise |
| 12:44.46 | DarcySupremest | Because london is a nightmare to navigate in general |
| 12:45.35 | Monet | Because it doesn't have a grid road system? |
| 12:46.43 | DarcySupremest | yes |
| 12:46.56 | DarcySupremest | its okay, most commonwealth cities are like that |
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| 12:47.12 | DarcySupremest | Because its like, the cities were built for carriages |
| 12:47.26 | DarcySupremest | and then cars took over and they were like, fuck it just pave the roads and make them for cars |
| 12:47.27 | AdmiralPanda | most Australian cities are pretty good, though we were fairly late |
| 12:47.32 | DarcySupremest | that is true |
| 12:47.36 | DarcySupremest | besides sydney |
| 12:47.48 | DarcySupremest | Sydney is a windy fucking mess, understandably |
| 12:48.05 | DarcySupremest | because it was the first city |
| 12:48.20 | Monet | I don't think it's because the cities had to adapt to cars fro mcarriages |
| 12:48.57 | DarcySupremest | Thats my only hypothesis |
| 12:49.12 | DarcySupremest | american cities are typically a lot more...griddy and more planned |
| 12:49.21 | Monet | A lot of pre-19th century cities were built before an age of central urban planning. |
| 12:49.28 | AdmiralPanda | it's mostly because early cities weren't planned period |
| 12:49.45 | DarcySupremest | yeah that makes more sense |
| 12:50.21 | Monet | New York's financial district is a windy mess comapred to the rest of the city. |
| 12:51.23 | Monet | Well...it's less grid-y |
| 12:51.31 | AdmiralPanda | melbourne was planned from the start, which is why it looks better than every other city ever |
| 12:51.38 | AdmiralPanda | too bad it's in the shitty part of Australia |
| 12:52.15 | DarcySupremest | Victoria is a state populated by apathetic university students and psychopath neocapitalists |
| 12:52.21 | DarcySupremest | I think its a wonderful state |
| 12:52.33 | AdmiralPanda | Accurate assessment except for the wonderful |
| 12:52.53 | AdmiralPanda | I mean let's be fair, it's not in the tropics |
| 12:53.02 | DarcySupremest | >I think its a ------- state |
| 12:53.07 | DarcySupremest | yeah thats better |
| 12:53.19 | DarcySupremest | "Visit Victoria!" |
| 12:53.25 | DarcySupremest | "Its....a state!" |
| 12:53.53 | Monet | Actuallly looking at some areas of London I am seeing planning |
| 12:53.58 | AdmiralPanda | did you ever watch The Gruen Transfer? |
| 12:54.05 | DarcySupremest | Of course I did Panda |
| 12:54.16 | DarcySupremest | thats like asking if I watched the Chasers War on Everything |
| 12:54.27 | Monet | https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/London/@51.5144328,-0.1471945,15.25z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x47d8a00baf21de75:0x52963a5addd52a99 like this part of Westminster |
| 12:54.39 | AdmiralPanda | the episode where the pitch was to sell Melbourne or Sydney as better capital cities than Canberra |
| 12:54.47 | AdmiralPanda | was everything |
| 12:55.27 | DarcySupremest | I have not seen that one and I will make an effort to |
| 12:55.38 | DarcySupremest | but yeah if you want a prime example of a "planned city" |
| 12:55.43 | DarcySupremest | Look at canberra |
| 12:56.08 | DarcySupremest | "We need to make a capital city, but Melbourne and Sydney are not suitable." |
| 12:56.09 | AdmiralPanda | the pitch for melbourne was that Canberra was too good for them, so they should stand in Melbourne instead |
| 12:56.33 | DarcySupremest | "You see this small sheep farming town in central New South Wales?" |
| 12:56.40 | DarcySupremest | "Lets build a fucking city on it." |
| 12:57.26 | Monet | As AP pointed out, a lot of these well-planned cities are msotly becuase they're relatively new. |
| 12:57.41 | DarcySupremest | But yeah, I'm glad we agree melbourne sucks panda |
| 12:57.57 | DarcySupremest | I mean I don't like Brisbane, mainly because I don't like Queensland as a state, but I mean |
| 12:58.02 | DarcySupremest | At least its not Melbourne |
| 12:58.12 | DarcySupremest | Or like |
| 12:58.16 | DarcySupremest | Alice Springs...or Darwin |
| 12:58.27 | AdmiralPanda | why do you not like Queensland? |
| 12:58.44 | DarcySupremest | Because you're the reason we lost the Republic Referendum |
| 12:58.48 | Monet | http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/map-wren.jpg I'd argue this might be a solid early example of a planned London. |
| 12:58.55 | DarcySupremest | and I'm an angry salty bitch about that |
| 12:58.57 | AdmiralPanda | ok yeah I'll give you that |
| 12:59.06 | Monet | Or planned city, rather. |
| 12:59.08 | AdmiralPanda | I mean let's be honest, the only reason I like Queensland is I live here :P |
| 12:59.52 | DarcySupremest | I'll give you the fact your State Government does more |
| 13:00.04 | DarcySupremest | in New South Wales, our State government does like...nothing |
| 13:00.05 | DarcySupremest | ever |
| 13:00.34 | Monet | http://mapco.net/london/images/1666wren.jpg I sort of admire Christopher Wren because he was one of the most profound arhcitects of his time. |
| 13:00.43 | DarcySupremest | 90% of the work is just dumped on the shire councils and the state office just takes taxes and does nothing |
| 13:00.46 | AdmiralPanda | our minister for youth decided that 1/5 of her portfolio is "too hard to resolve" |
| 13:01.26 | Monet | A man comissioned to build not just a cathedral, but also sought to rebuild London. |
| 13:01.41 | DarcySupremest | >Triangular houses |
| 13:02.02 | DarcySupremest | that always like put me off about london architecture, something about like |
| 13:02.18 | DarcySupremest | a room that gets more and more shallow is really offputting |
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| 13:03.21 | DarcySupremest | hulla |
| 13:03.36 | AdmiralPanda | I think that we can all agree Darwin deserves the crap it gets |
| 13:03.57 | Monet | DarcySUpremacist: Welcome to England, a tiny island where you can't afford to give everyone a big house ot live in. |
| 13:04.20 | DarcySupremest | Yes Panda, Darwin is like |
| 13:04.22 | DarcySupremest | not even a city |
| 13:04.26 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:04.27 | DarcySupremest | it reminds me of Las Vegas |
| 13:04.35 | DarcySupremest | instead of like |
| 13:04.39 | DarcySupremest | a town stapled onto the strip |
| 13:04.41 | DarcySupremest | its a town |
| 13:04.52 | DarcySupremest | stapled onto a US Navy/Marine base |
| 13:05.23 | DarcySupremest | and Monet, I've heard your housing prices are nightmarish |
| 13:05.24 | AdmiralPanda | basically, and just replace the crippling gambling addiction with a crippling alcohol addiction |
| 13:05.28 | DarcySupremest | almost as bad as sydney |
| 13:05.33 | DarcySupremest | baduumtish |
| 13:05.55 | AdmiralPanda | it's funny because we're talking crap about our own country :P |
| 13:06.03 | AdmiralPanda | as you can tell, patriotism isn't a big thing over here :) |
| 13:06.22 | DarcySupremest | theres not a whole lot to be patriotic about |
| 13:06.33 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: In London sure. Most of us rent or have a mortgage. |
| 13:06.50 | DarcySupremest | aging population means the government is going to be thoroughly coalition |
| 13:07.39 | Monet | Fortunately I live in a part of the country where despite eing an hour from London, you can by a liveable-sized hosue for around £180,000. |
| 13:08.01 | DarcySupremest | and Coalition has a hard on for hoarding money and doing nothing and never expanding or innovating |
| 13:08.50 | DarcySupremest | but thats politics and lame |
| 13:08.52 | Monet | I moved from a county where a semi-detached house was rapidly reaching a minimum asking price of 300K |
| 13:09.06 | DarcySupremest | ouch |
| 13:09.19 | DarcySupremest | oh god 300,000 points |
| 13:09.23 | DarcySupremest | pounds even* |
| 13:09.35 | DarcySupremest | thats like...600k here |
| 13:09.39 | DarcySupremest | I threw up in my mouth a little |
| 13:09.39 | AdmiralPanda | don't worry, in approximately 30 years all the old farts will be dead, then we can take over as the next generation of out-of-touch oldies :) |
| 13:09.51 | DarcySupremest | Man I can't wait to be out of touch |
| 13:09.55 | Monet | ...might be because Oxford University is up to 15 minutes away by bus. |
| 13:10.18 | DarcySupremest | my grandson will bring home his weird Robot Aligator girlfriend and I can sit in my rocking chair saying that he's a degenerate |
| 13:10.26 | DarcySupremest | it'll be great |
| 13:10.28 | DarcySupremest | I can't wait |
| 13:11.59 | Hachiman | Implying that a robot alligator girlfriend is degeneracy and not fucking awesome |
| 13:12.11 | DarcySupremest | Of course I am Hatchi |
| 13:12.23 | DarcySupremest | Robot Aligator women are destroying this country that Robot Crocodile Men made |
| 13:12.35 | AdmiralPanda | I can't wait for my mayonnaise-kin child to tell me about his lettuce-kin partner are expecting a coleslaw-kin child |
| 13:12.36 | DarcySupremest | I won't stand for it, not in my home |
| 13:12.42 | DarcySupremest | God, nibblets |
| 13:13.21 | AdmiralPanda | and I will stand there and call him a fucking wanker in my most TB-esque british accent |
| 13:13.39 | DarcySupremest | "Grandpa Darcy...I know I don't get to talk often...but I just want to say I love you and I value our time together." |
| 13:13.42 | DarcySupremest | "WHAT?" |
| 13:13.45 | DarcySupremest | "SPEAK UP?" |
| 13:13.51 | DarcySupremest | "ARE YOU FROM THE WAR?" |
| 13:14.02 | AdmiralPanda | honestly, if I raise a special snowflake child I might have to shoot myself |
| 13:15.23 | Hachiman | I would make a joke about grandchildren but I plan on never having kids and instead selling my testicles for thousands of pounds |
| 13:16.08 | Monet | "Back in my day we used to communicate using this tihng called a key-board. Now its all thought-messaging." |
| 13:16.43 | DarcySupremest | "You won't get a sound quite like the old mechanical keyboard...THERES NO BEAUTY TO THE THOUGHT MESSAGING" |
| 13:17.06 | AdmiralPanda | I pray I'm never THAT pathetic |
| 13:17.15 | DarcySupremest | "But grandpa, you never have typos and you can produce thousands of words a minute with thought processing." |
| 13:18.15 | AdmiralPanda | if I ever used thought processing almost everything I typed would be varieties of ways to kill people |
| 13:18.23 | AdmiralPanda | I'm prettymuch always thinking about murder in one way or another |
| 13:18.40 | Monet | Lovely. |
| 13:19.24 | Hachiman | Meanwhile, if I was to use thought processing, everything I would type ever would be either swear words or dirty things all day long |
| 13:19.44 | DarcySupremest | "Brain Siri, don't record my thoughts." |
| 13:20.15 | Monet | I think for a lot of places that are not dictatorships or the USA, patriotism levels are rather low (Maybe not in the Nordic countries because its comparatively paradise) |
| 13:20.40 | DarcySupremest | swedonyes.jpg |
| 13:21.54 | DarcySupremest | So unrelated as hell question, but in regards to spore, is there good wing tutorials anywhere, I tried to make my own wings for something and they look alright but like the clipping is a huge issue |
| 13:22.56 | DarcySupremest | I haven't done a whole lot because I've been playing Diablo all day so I just fucked around on photoshop |
| 13:23.02 | DarcySupremest | http://i.imgur.com/m86zkkf.png |
| 13:23.19 | DarcySupremest | but yeah, a proper wing tutorial so I can fix wings would be fantastic if anybody has them |
| 13:25.38 | Monet | WOah |
| 13:27.04 | Monet | Regarding patriotism though, I think some miht be surprised when we britsh poke fun at peopel we even consider national treasures |
| 13:28.35 | Monet | Like Brian Blessed: Beloved guy, really fun, we join in on the jokes that he's so loud he could cause earthquakes. |
| 13:28.57 | Monet | In fact come to think of it we may have started those since he started in Britain. |
| 13:29.15 | DarcySupremest | it was my attempt to make like some nightmarish lovecraft outer god, he's supposed to have wings like Seath the Scaless, as in, weird dragonfly wings |
| 13:29.23 | DarcySupremest | and yeah |
| 13:29.30 | DarcySupremest | I've heard of that, theres like |
| 13:29.32 | DarcySupremest | a word for it |
| 13:29.43 | DarcySupremest | where you playfully poke those you admire |
| 13:30.01 | Monet | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7b/82/39/7b8239f2971cbdb8d804ee7916d4b680.jpg found this |
| 13:30.30 | Monet | Brian Blessed punching a polar bear in the face. |
| 13:33.12 | Monet | Can't rememebr the term but it's common in Britain |
| 13:36.09 | Monet | I'm gonna nitpick here but...Well I'm not as well-versed in Lovecraftian mythos as others but the model reminds me of Cthulhu. |
| 13:37.24 | DarcySupremest | I was going for a Void Dragon looking thing |
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| 13:37.42 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 13:37.50 | DarcySupremest | So like, something vaguely dragon like but incredibly like alien and weird |
| 13:37.54 | Monet | Wormydroid: Hi |
| 13:37.56 | DarcySupremest | also hey |
| 13:38.28 | DarcySupremest | The colours might not be defined enough, its meant to be like, a mess of horns and eyes |
| 13:38.54 | Monet | Don't mind me though, I'm starting to get an impression that Cthulhu is losing his edge as an unknowable Lovecraftian being. |
| 13:39.06 | AdmiralPanda | lost it a loooong time ago |
| 13:39.50 | Monet | Thanks infinite stream of portrayals as a gaint squidman. |
| 13:40.17 | DarcySupremest | That is true |
| 13:40.25 | DarcySupremest | I have no idea why Cthulu is the like |
| 13:40.36 | DarcySupremest | one you associate with his mythos |
| 13:40.38 | Monet | Or octopus-man considering he's always drawn with a round head |
| 13:40.51 | DarcySupremest | Cthulu is like...not even that important in the lore |
| 13:41.04 | DarcySupremest | he's like...the son of one of the Elder Gods |
| 13:41.12 | DarcySupremest | who are the offspring of the Outer Gods |
| 13:41.22 | DarcySupremest | who are the offspring of Azathoth |
| 13:41.23 | Monet | Might be because he's the most approachable. |
| 13:41.33 | DarcySupremest | now that is true |
| 13:41.38 | DarcySupremest | most of the gods are like |
| 13:41.43 | DarcySupremest | unknowable |
| 13:41.50 | DarcySupremest | nightmarish masses of light and colour and energy |
| 13:42.11 | DarcySupremest | Cthulu is just "a dragonsquid" |
| 13:42.51 | Monet | Big C had a ship ram into the side of his head. It was obliterated and he didn't ntoice, but that's probably as close as any human has gotten to the elder beings. |
| 13:43.24 | DarcySupremest | Yeah I get the feeling you are right |
| 13:43.41 | DarcySupremest | its because he is the only one of the elder gods that is near enough to something we can relate to |
| 13:43.44 | DarcySupremest | which is ironic |
| 13:43.54 | DarcySupremest | because Lovecraft detested the idea that humans were special |
| 13:44.43 | Monet | Yeah |
| 13:45.24 | DarcySupremest | Azathoth has always been my favorite |
| 13:45.28 | Monet | And since then there's been this underlying idea that "lovecraftian" is something too horrible to imagine. |
| 13:45.54 | Monet | Or somehow eerie. |
| 13:45.59 | Monet | Or not of this world. |
| 13:47.15 | DarcySupremest | I dunno, I'm just experimenting with it for my new fiction, as much as I like the Arcanium I'm distancing myself as much as possible from them for my new stuff |
| 13:47.21 | DarcySupremest | I have no idea if this will work storywise |
| 13:47.21 | Monet | It's all of those things and none of them at once - To encounter Yog'Sothoth is to look upon that which can never be known. An eternity can pass by and you would come to understand it less than you did before. |
| 13:49.44 | DarcySupremest | I may or may not actually have my first rough draft for them done tonight |
| 13:49.56 | DarcySupremest | they're "done" in the sense I can explain what they are in writing |
| 13:50.04 | DarcySupremest | but I might make their models first |
| 13:50.31 | Monet | Sorry for ranting. I thought it was insigthful. And Hachi and I have a story arc that has a vibe of Lovecraftian to it. |
| 13:50.47 | DarcySupremest | Oh man no problem at all |
| 13:51.00 | DarcySupremest | I like to talk about Lovecraft, I love Cosmic Horror and especially his work |
| 13:51.14 | DarcySupremest | I'm glad its accepted here |
| 13:51.35 | DarcySupremest | Speaking of Monet, can my monsters hang out in Andromeda again |
| 13:51.47 | DarcySupremest | I'm just worried because Andromeda is supposed to be the "hard science fiction" galaxy |
| 13:52.02 | DarcySupremest | And lovecraft...isn't exactly hard science fiction |
| 13:52.16 | Monet | Honestly, I do wonder if Lovecraft might be hard science fiction. |
| 13:52.34 | DarcySupremest | his stuff classically isn't |
| 13:52.54 | Monet | It has some hard scifi aspects to it. |
| 13:52.58 | DarcySupremest | actually... |
| 13:53.02 | DarcySupremest | yeah that is a good question |
| 13:53.28 | DarcySupremest | I mean, its not like the Outer Gods are gods |
| 13:53.36 | DarcySupremest | they're just beings so far beyond what we can comprehend |
| 13:53.43 | Monet | It portrays an advanced alien race as something we cannot wrap our heads around. |
| 13:53.44 | DarcySupremest | they are just gods to us and everything else |
| 13:54.02 | DarcySupremest | which is what I was doing |
| 13:54.26 | DarcySupremest | I talked breifly with Ghelae about this last night and I was going to have it be a fifth dimensional being |
| 13:54.28 | Monet | What we see as sorcery or incredible power could simply be advanced technology |
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| 13:57.40 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 13:59.10 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:59.52 | DarcySupremest | hey |
| 14:00.57 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:01.31 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: Might be something to discuss with other Andromedans. But if it helps things Andromeda does have the 'nars. |
| 14:02.51 | Monet | Andromeda is a place for a touch of Lovecraft, but we mainly need to find a way to weave them into the lore if they're advanced. |
| 14:13.00 | DarcySupremest | I'll produce a document for you to read over at some point tonight before I head to sleep |
| 14:13.10 | DarcySupremest | instead of me trying to make sense of it |
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| 14:21.40 | DarcySupremest | I'm thinking of making them a...whats the word |
| 14:21.48 | DarcySupremest | Lawful Evil? |
| 14:21.50 | DarcySupremest | maybe |
| 14:21.58 | DarcySupremest | the idea is their morals are questionable |
| 14:22.00 | DarcySupremest | but they're not evil |
| 14:39.10 | Hachiman | Lawful Neutral? |
| 14:43.23 | Ghelae | https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28786-comets-cant-explain-weird-alien-megastructure-star-after-all/ - aliens confirmed (almost) |
| 14:43.41 | Hachiman | Ngh I just want NASA to uncover Monoliths already |
| 14:44.03 | Hachiman | You cannot imagine how disappointed I was when I discovered they cancelled the launch of the TPF |
| 14:44.12 | OluapPlayer | monoliths dunt exist yo |
| 14:48.36 | Ghelae | Only two reasons are given against it being a megastructure in the article, but neither are fatal flaws. A century is plenty of time when you can have exponentially-growing manufacturing capabilities (there was a paper called "Eternity in Six Hours" which IIRC gave an estimate of <35 years to dismantle Mercury and turn it all into dyson swarm satellites). |
| 14:49.23 | Ghelae | I'm not so sure about the lack of expected emissions; the EM frequencies that you'd expect to be emittedmight depend on what the megastructure is used for. |
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| 14:52.35 | Monet | Oh Ha-ha New Scientist |
| 14:52.48 | Monet | Naming subsections after David Bowie songs |
| 14:56.17 | Technobliterator | where is Cyrannian |
| 14:56.20 | Technobliterator | oh wait, Monet is here |
| 14:56.31 | Technobliterator | do you know if it's a good idea to make an SWTOR character starting from 60? |
| 14:57.29 | Monet | You'll miss the character stories . But other than that you get decent equipment and get to play the expansions immediately. |
| 14:57.52 | Technobliterator | Hm |
| 14:58.12 | Technobliterator | The question is how much I'm missing from the character stories, then, that I can't just go watch on YouTube |
| 14:59.16 | Monet | Reading up I noticedo ne big thing you do miss |
| 14:59.47 | Monet | The behaviour of your companions in Knights of the Fallen Empire is affected by your influence with them |
| 15:00.32 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 15:00.33 | Technobliterator | meh |
| 15:05.17 | Hachiman | You know, I am not trying to sound arrogant or egotistical but people say I have only two real flaws about me |
| 15:05.39 | Hachiman | That's everything I do and everything I say |
| 15:05.43 | Monet | Technobliterator: So...Are you not returning |
| 15:06.11 | Technobliterator | I'm thinking about playing the game starting with a level 60 |
| 15:06.26 | Technobliterator | cut all the crap that would bore me about any MMO |
| 15:06.56 | Monet | Fair enough |
| 15:07.12 | Monet | I hear KOTFE's a really nice blend of progression and story. |
| 15:07.42 | Monet | Hachiman: You can be a little argumentative and critical at times. |
| 15:09.46 | Technobliterator | TOR always looked fun, but I never wanted to go through the leveling |
| 15:09.53 | Technobliterator | it's always boring in any MMO |
| 15:10.02 | Technobliterator | but one that I wasn't even playing for the gameplay it's even worse |
| 15:12.53 | Monet | Well, leveling's gotten a little easier |
| 15:19.38 | Hachiman | Ngh need to bbl |
| 15:23.25 | Technobliterator | it always gets easier with MMOs |
| 15:23.30 | Technobliterator | but never enough to sit through the content |
| 15:24.26 | Monet | This time it seems to be |
| 15:24.58 | Technobliterator | low level content in TOR is not very fun |
| 15:25.01 | Monet | The experience gain in the story missions seems brisk enough that you can potentially get to the end though main story missions alone |
| 15:25.11 | Technobliterator | nor is it in most MMOs |
| 15:26.25 | Monet | WHat sort of level content are you after then |
| 15:26.26 | Monet | To be ocnsidered fun |
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| 15:28.37 | drom | Well this is one interesting universe |
| 15:30.54 | drom | A humanity enters a space-faring stage, but the conspiracy made by a major-general causes the once great civilization to deprive into a "religious" (actually a malevolent cult) apocolypse full of traitors and "heretics" (those untouched by the cultists and have sworn to pulverize said cults). |
| 15:34.06 | drom | The development of technology in attempt to survive the ever-worsening life of the cultist apoclypse, they generate malovent entities, unsurprisingly, called Wraiths. They live off the blood of humans and feed on the pain inflicted on corpreal entities such as organisms, mostly humans. |
| 15:35.17 | drom | As a side-effect of the nightmares, the flora and fauna stuck between the acts of cults, they mutate into more terrifying organisms, threatening the last remaning humanity. |
| 15:46.41 | Monet | test |
| 15:48.36 | DarcySupremest | Failed, see me after class |
| 15:50.41 | DarcySupremest | Right, a real summary will be done tommorrow and ready to read |
| 15:50.45 | DarcySupremest | but the models are done |
| 15:50.50 | DarcySupremest | http://imgur.com/a/6E7Cw |
| 15:51.01 | DarcySupremest | so heres a list of all of them with no context |
| 15:51.40 | DarcySupremest | They are a post singularity coalition of four empires that united as one under a semi cultist religious faith |
| 15:55.32 | DarcySupremest | for now |
| 15:55.33 | DarcySupremest | bed |
| 15:55.38 | DarcySupremest | night yall |
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| 16:01.04 | Monet | Hello |
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| 16:07.50 | Monet | These models Darcy made do make me wonder about this singularity idea. |
| 16:08.27 | Monet | Starting to wonder if describing it as a new machine age or an era where machines simply exlipse humans is jsut one aspect. |
| 16:08.55 | Monet | Maybe in a bid to avoid obselescence, humans and machines seamlessly combine? |
| 16:11.30 | Imperios | https://titanpad.com/wPsqA98rKn |
| 16:11.32 | Imperios | oops |
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| 17:21.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
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| 17:27.47 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 17:27.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi! |
| 17:30.19 | Wormy_ | Me and a relative err, encountered a ghost today. We were walking ast a place called "Long Dale" (like this, can't find a picture of the actual place http://www.winstercavers.org.uk/SiteImages/Photos/Walking_UK/LathkillDale_100_0530.JPG) and it was getting dark so we headed back. The path was flooded with water up to your knees and the place was really icey, we encountered no-one |
| 17:31.33 | Wormy_ | All the way as long back we could hear the voice of a child about 20 feet behind us every minute or so, but the voice was fragmented |
| 17:32.25 | Wormy_ | Could have been the way bird calls reflected off the bare rock in places I suppose |
| 17:33.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yikes |
| 17:35.25 | Wormy_ | I don't see how anyone, especially a kid could have been there given the conditions, we had to stop eventually because the water got too deep. |
| 17:36.28 | DrodoEmpire | You could just be hearing things. :p Were you not very well-rested when it happened? |
| 17:36.43 | DrodoEmpire | Or already nervous? |
| 17:36.45 | Wormy_ | Both of us heard it |
| 17:37.01 | Wormy_ | Not nervous no, it was just a normal winter walk |
| 17:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | Oh right |
| 17:37.23 | Wormy_ | We talked about it, even stopped to listen |
| 17:37.40 | DrodoEmpire | Alright then it *definitely* did happen. I'd say the most likely explanation would be birds or some sort of animal yeah |
| 17:39.23 | Wormy_ | Another picture of the place http://www.peakwalker.net/2011%20walks/2011-01-02/pond.jpg |
| 17:39.41 | Wormy_ | quite pretty, but quite bleak |
| 17:40.15 | DrodoEmpire | Indeed |
| 17:46.33 | Ghelae | Wormy_: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28786-comets-cant-explain-weird-alien-megastructure-star-after-all/ |
| 17:48.57 | Wormy_ | Well that is really unusual# |
| 17:49.28 | Wormy_ | I guess that gradual fading of the star might rule out giant ring system as an explanation too. |
| 17:50.03 | Wormy_ | But... What if the star has somekind of gigantic long-term sunspot-like phenomenon? |
| 17:50.19 | Wormy_ | That we don'tknow about |
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| 17:51.48 | LuxorHere | Good evening |
| 17:52.20 | LuxorHere | Here's a shot of Milky Way, with sun marked: |
| 17:52.24 | LuxorHere | http://imgur.com/fT2wCmN |
| 17:52.37 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:52.47 | LuxorHere | And here's Andromeda: |
| 17:52.48 | LuxorHere | http://imgur.com/vT64q8Z |
| 17:54.08 | Ghelae | Wormy_: It's still probably something natural like that, yes (even though 100+ years is a very long solar cycle). Although I will note that the reasons they give against it being a megastructure are also unconvincing. |
| 17:55.18 | LuxorHere | And here's Bunsen: (as NGC 925 seen in Space Engine) |
| 17:55.23 | LuxorHere | http://imgur.com/cJh3su1 |
| 17:55.57 | LuxorHere | I'm sure that separating 5 sectors of Bunsen won't be a hard task with this one. |
| 17:56.47 | Wormy_ | One thing is that the dimming could be something-else to the fluctuating brightness. And I'm aware of extremely tentative ideas that things like Q-balls could be parasitic to a star, slowly dimming them. |
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| 17:58.16 | LuxorHere | http://imgur.com/8PWvrbs |
| 17:58.22 | Ghelae | LuxorHere: How about NGC 300? That might have clearer arms (if it doesn't, I suppose there's no point posting a picture). |
| 17:58.26 | LuxorHere | That's Pinwheel galaxy. (Cyrannus) |
| 17:58.34 | LuxorHere | I'll check its look in SE. |
| 17:58.44 | LuxorHere | Though Pinwheel is well recreated in this program. |
| 17:59.21 | LuxorHere | Ghelae: This one might surely be better. |
| 17:59.29 | LuxorHere | Got it's shot, uploading to imgur. |
| 17:59.56 | LuxorHere | http://imgur.com/72aLZDM |
| 18:00.12 | LuxorHere | Milky, Andromeda, Bunsen + Cyrannian done. |
| 18:00.37 | Ghelae | Is that one NGC 300? |
| 18:00.44 | LuxorHere | In SE, yes. |
| 18:00.53 | Ghelae | Yeah, I think that also makes a good Bunsen. |
| 18:01.05 | LuxorHere | Fairly similiar to real one. |
| 18:01.37 | Wormy_ | Space Engine just stopped working for me, even newer versions. |
| 18:01.43 | LuxorHere | 2bad |
| 18:02.03 | Wormy_ | I think somekind of Windows update was the ccause |
| 18:02.27 | Ghelae | The reason I suggested that one is because of http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Locations - the real-life identifications there are mostly chosen because they're arranged how the Gigaquadrant is supposed to be, e.g. Xonexi Cluster galaxies are actually near to each other. |
| 18:02.52 | LuxorHere | Quadrant galaxies might need some photoshop... |
| 18:02.58 | Ghelae | I tried to make them as appropriate as possible too. |
| 18:03.04 | LuxorHere | I've never seen this page actually. |
| 18:03.59 | LuxorHere | I'll use it for Ikiwa Eropsi Cluster. |
| 18:04.03 | Ghelae | I noticed it wasn't even linked to in the First Gigaquadrant page yesterday. |
| 18:04.15 | LuxorHere | Well it will surely help a lot. |
| 18:15.57 | Monet | LuxorHere: What is your monitos resolution? |
| 18:16.53 | LuxorHere | It's quite low, 1366x768 |
| 18:16.59 | LuxorHere | Though SE cuts a bit from that |
| 18:17.19 | Monet | I have a 1080p minotir if it helps. |
| 18:17.28 | Monet | I have SPace ENgine too |
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| 18:22.42 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
| 18:23.23 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 18:24.22 | Wormy_ | Old submarine escape suits from a 20's film have a resemblance to minions. Falsly attributed to Holocaust victims. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/78/55/df/7855df14f6b5e3dff71a504b29542397.jpg |
| 18:24.25 | Monet | LuxorHere: If you like I can look into getting better-resolution images for you |
| 18:34.42 | Technobliterator | hi Cyrannian |
| 18:34.48 | Technobliterator | I was thinking of getting a level 60 character in TOR |
| 18:34.55 | Technobliterator | like, starting with one |
| 18:35.03 | Cyrannian | Is it for free? |
| 18:35.05 | Technobliterator | not sure if I'm missing a whole lot other than story by doing that? |
| 18:35.15 | Technobliterator | No, you have to pay sub fee, which I was going to do anyway |
| 18:36.06 | Cyrannian | Ah right, I wasted my free token on a Jedi Knight even though I already had one at level 55, but other than story, I don't think you'll miss out on too much |
| 18:38.14 | Monet | Technobliterator: If you go for a Sith Empire character Sporewiki has a guild/order/thing |
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| 18:39.33 | External | Hello |
| 18:39.43 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:40.30 | Cyrannian | Hello dino! |
| 18:40.52 | dino82_ | hi cyrannian! |
| 18:40.54 | dino82_ | How is allz doing? |
| 18:42.24 | External | I'm trying to figure out how to make a detailed infobox |
| 18:43.15 | Monet | Ghelae, LuxorHere: Hada go at getting images for MW, ANdromeda, NGC 960 and NGC 300 |
| 18:43.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hi dino, I'm doing good. :D |
| 18:45.18 | dino82_ | Great to hear Drodo! :D |
| 18:47.22 | Monet | Yeah doing good. |
| 18:47.28 | Monet | External: WHat help do you need? |
| 18:48.03 | External | I'm good. I had a little trouble at first, but I think I know how to get it done. |
| 18:48.27 | External | It's not detailed, but it'll do. |
| 18:49.08 | dino82_ | Great to hear all! |
| 18:49.19 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 18:49.39 | dino82_ | sad to learn this week that the actor who played Severus Snape has passed away, he was a great actor with a very unique way of performing |
| 18:49.54 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:50.09 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Andromeda.jpg http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Milky_Way.jpg http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NGC_300.jpg http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NGC_960.jpg |
| 18:50.16 | Monet | I might watch Die Hard again in his memory. |
| 18:50.24 | dino82_ | @monet: Me too! |
| 18:50.33 | DrodoEmpire | I do like those new galaxies |
| 18:52.15 | Wormy_away | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/93/Large_Magellanic_Cloud.jpg |
| 18:53.30 | Imperios | drom Monet: http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/TheHomelessPoet/Background%20And%20Banner%20Pictures/DickAndJane4.gif |
| 18:54.23 | LuxorHere | Aaaargh Im back |
| 18:54.41 | External | Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU95SJDWuSY |
| 18:56.03 | dino82_ | oh bbl |
| 18:56.21 | LuxorHere | Okay, neat images. |
| 18:56.21 | Monet | LuxorHere: Hi |
| 18:56.25 | LuxorHere | Hey Monet. |
| 18:57.39 | Monet | Just found a white dwarf orbiting very close to a main sequence star |
| 18:57.46 | Monet | ...the white dwarf is lensinb the parent star. |
| 18:58.01 | LuxorHere | SE is full of anomalies. |
| 18:58.12 | LuxorHere | I've heard about septuple star systems. |
| 18:59.08 | LuxorHere | Monet: Which galaxy is resembled by NGC 960? |
| 18:59.26 | Monet | Reminds me of Borealis |
| 18:59.43 | LuxorHere | I'd say NGC300 would be better for it |
| 19:00.06 | LuxorHere | As Ghel said before, it's arms are more visible. |
| 19:01.06 | Monet | Right |
| 19:01.17 | Cyrannian | brbz |
| 19:05.42 | External | ooo boy, I'm gonna have a lot of pages to fill out. |
| 19:09.57 | External | test |
| 19:11.23 | DrodoEmpire | Passed |
| 19:12.45 | External | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Externalization/Navbox How do I get rid of the spare headers? |
| 19:13.19 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure... |
| 19:13.34 | DrodoEmpire | Try asking Monet, or Tech |
| 19:15.09 | Monet | The way you've set it up you've got sections effectively missing headers |
| 19:16.12 | Monet | ...I tihnk |
| 19:18.46 | External | I'm trying to add several blocks to one header, but new headers keep popping up every time I add more blocks. |
| 19:21.44 | Monet | |nestedplainA ={{Navbox|nested try using this to divide your two factions |
| 19:23.07 | External | Where do I stick it? |
| 19:23.59 | Monet | Under your title |
| 19:24.52 | Monet | Sorry under the title parameter |
| 19:25.13 | Monet | Remember to close with }} at some point |
| 19:28.00 | External | test |
| 19:28.22 | External | ^ Nevermind that |
| 19:33.33 | External | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Externalization/Navbox Nope. |
| 19:37.03 | Wormy_away | Imperios: http://imgur.com/gallery/m8nwrU7 |
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| 19:37.18 | dino82_ | whoops connection issues |
| 19:39.17 | External | Alright, got it. |
| 19:39.20 | External | Thanks Monet |
| 19:40.03 | drom | Playing as an Innkeeper in a post-apoclyptic sci-fi world stuck between cultist and dark ages theme |
| 19:40.08 | Wormy_away | The Space Engine soundtrack is most beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qVUvu_y4Q&list=PLhPp-QAUKF_jdoY55sncRV4cspFMzqsMA |
| 19:42.10 | Wormy_away | In Space Engine, sometimes you get those systems or planets with a wealth of unusual coincidences in code that come togejher to create unusual things |
| 19:43.16 | Wormy_away | Some systems do look boring, especially ones that orbit brown dwarfs |
| 19:43.19 | External | Everyone else has Space Engine but me. Wow. |
| 19:43.43 | Wormy_away | I do but it stopped working. |
| 19:43.47 | TekDroid_ | Wormy_away: I show you what I explored yesterday? http://i.imgur.com/ypPre1W.jpg |
| 19:43.59 | drom | Such is life... http://i.imgur.com/VX8UOmK.png |
| 19:44.16 | External | What do you think of my new Racheara? |
| 19:44.16 | Wormy_away | Gorgeous, you must have the new version. |
| 19:44.34 | TekDroid_ | Yeah, the latest beta patch |
| 19:44.41 | External | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Racheara.png |
| 19:45.03 | Wormy_away | SE crashes within seconds of starting the program, along with the new version, all after a crappy Windows update. |
| 19:45.10 | TekDroid_ | Wierd |
| 19:45.38 | Wormy_away | I don't even see the error log. |
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| 19:49.20 | TekDroid | I remember at one point Space Engine's spacetime warping actually caused my computer to BSOD. |
| 19:49.58 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 19:50.55 | Wormy_away | drom: looks useful https://vimeo.com/141277097 |
| 19:51.08 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: At least it was a known issue that you could fix easily, and seems to be fixed now |
| 19:51.32 | drom | >be innkeeper |
| 19:51.50 | drom | >some woman-mongering fuckface turn up to me with his side-hoe |
| 19:52.02 | drom | >demands alcohol and then says "nvm" |
| 19:52.09 | drom | >throw a bottle of rum at him |
| 19:52.13 | drom | >hits him in the groin |
| 19:52.19 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/p1cOikS |
| 19:53.23 | drom | Apparently it causes him to become sterile |
| 19:53.33 | drom | So he shot me in the chest |
| 19:56.08 | External | What are you talking about? |
| 19:59.01 | TekDroid | Wormy_away: IC 1101 also has a really interesting black hole. 0.8ly wide, distortions visible from 2000ly away. |
| 20:00.32 | Wormy_away | Interesting, send me a postcard |
| 20:02.41 | drom | External: My experience of playing a branch of SS13 |
| 20:03.12 | drom | External: This is how it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/VX8UOmK.png |
| 20:03.14 | External | Ah. |
| 20:13.41 | TekDroid | That's... an odd actions list |
| 20:14.54 | drom | TekDroid: It is a branch targeting the adult audience, so yeah |
| 20:15.10 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: Are you guys going to continue doing Civ V? |
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| 20:17.03 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452962032334.jpg Deus Vult |
| 20:17.17 | OluapPlayer | Don't get it |
| 20:17.24 | OluapPlayer | Hello to you too |
| 20:17.37 | DrodoEmpire | Impy: ohgof |
| 20:17.39 | DrodoEmpire | *god |
| 20:20.57 | Imperios | Yeah hi |
| 20:21.09 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Reverse ISIS |
| 20:28.04 | Imperios | OluapPlayer drom: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452972229933.jpg |
| 20:28.57 | drom | he b ded |
| 20:29.36 | drom | actually, deader than dead |
| 20:29.54 | OluapPlayer | Seen |
| 20:30.15 | Imperios | drom: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452973189509.jpg |
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| 20:31.16 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 20:31.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 20:31.48 | drom | Imperios: kebab is actually good |
| 20:31.55 | drom | as food, I mean |
| 20:32.14 | OluapPlayer | randum |
| 20:32.21 | OluapPlayer | The_Randomness: Can you play today? |
| 20:32.27 | The_Randomness | ya |
| 20:32.40 | OluapPlayer | gud |
| 20:35.10 | Imperios | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/GxGCjkJ.png |
| 20:35.47 | Imperios | drom: http://i.imgur.com/YU5n2bQ.png?2 I can relate |
| 20:36.34 | drom | Imperios: So accurate the comic terrifies me |
| 20:42.40 | Charles_Bot | Anyone want to do civ5? |
| 20:42.49 | The_Randomness | sure |
| 20:46.41 | Monet | I can |
| 20:48.19 | Monet | Imperios: I think Cracked described that as "Our sadomasochistic relationship with the British Isles" |
| 20:48.29 | Charles_Bot | drom: ? |
| 20:48.36 | Charles_Bot | TekDroid: ? |
| 20:48.50 | Charles_Bot | Who else? |
| 20:49.14 | TekDroid | I'm up for it if you guys are |
| 20:49.46 | Charles_Bot | Alright. Do we want to continue the last game? |
| 20:49.57 | Charles_Bot | Who hosted that? |
| 20:50.21 | The_Randomness | I did |
| 20:50.38 | TekDroid | Don't we need Xho for that? |
| 20:52.06 | Monet | Was it Drom or Tek who saved last? |
| 20:52.09 | The_Randomness | Yeah, he was part of the game |
| 20:52.17 | drom | If you mean that game between you, Tek and Random, the one you were the first host and I then came the host of the second continuity. Sadly I cannot do Civ5 |
| 20:52.18 | TekDroid | Brb, switching network |
| 20:53.05 | drom | Because I'm on a laptop, it has too bad specs to run Civ5. I don't have it installed, either, nor do I have enough of HDD space or time. |
| 20:53.20 | *** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@lx02.housing.carleton.ca) |
| 20:53.36 | TekDroid | So we're missing a few players then? |
| 20:54.04 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 20:54.09 | The_Randomness | We could start a new game though |
| 20:54.46 | The_Randomness | Up to you guys |
| 20:55.10 | drom | And yes, I've the lastest save of our game |
| 20:55.39 | drom | Unless someone else did save as the game migrated to an other host |
| 20:55.50 | TekDroid | I don't think so |
| 20:58.45 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://40.media.tumblr.com/0225344428ad99351d801378b409e829/tumblr_o0xadhP87k1qjqehno7_500.png QUIET IS NOT SETTING FOOT ON THIS BASE |
| 20:59.00 | Technobliterator | hahahahahaha |
| 20:59.06 | Technobliterator | I was actually playing just now |
| 20:59.11 | Technobliterator | it still sucks that I can't get Quiet back |
| 21:00.03 | OluapPlayer | Your game is bugged |
| 21:00.04 | OluapPlayer | It's got parasites |
| 21:00.50 | Technobliterator | must be |
| 21:00.59 | Technobliterator | or maybe you have to complete mission 45 again before it works |
| 21:00.59 | Monet | I have a suspicion quet's tricked her parsites into symbiosis |
| 21:02.20 | Imperios | The_Randomness: A new game is ok |
| 21:02.34 | The_Randomness | alright, who should be invited? |
| 21:02.53 | TekDroid | I'll play |
| 21:03.03 | Monet | For osme reason my game shuts down at the loading screen. |
| 21:04.58 | The_Randomness | Have you tried launching it in a different version of DirectX? |
| 21:05.09 | The_Randomness | Otherwise, I'd try validating the game cache |
| 21:05.27 | Monet | I've run a cache verification |
| 21:05.38 | The_Randomness | o |
| 21:05.55 | Monet | if it doesn't work I'l ltry DX9 |
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| 21:06.26 | Imperios | drom Monet: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452974624345.jpg #Asians |
| 21:07.17 | Monet | Works now |
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| 21:08.03 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://56.media.tumblr.com/1f0b6399809aa33403d9c6bb85d82d21/tumblr_o0q0xuOYWj1sjiojbo2_500.png vs http://56.media.tumblr.com/0e00162f635562ad608bcb82cba8094c/tumblr_inline_o0rtdn4hh41qgksal_540.jpg |
| 21:08.29 | Technobliterator | hah |
| 21:08.31 | drom | Imperios: racist |
| 21:08.54 | LuxorHere | Aye again |
| 21:09.00 | The_Randomness | ok |
| 21:09.06 | The_Randomness | Going to start setting stuff up now |
| 21:09.18 | LuxorHere | Some progress with galaxies? |
| 21:09.28 | LuxorHere | Any at all? |
| 21:09.43 | TekDroid | Galaxies? |
| 21:10.06 | Monet | Luxorhere: Other than the pictures I uploaded, no |
| 21:10.16 | LuxorHere | Meh |
| 21:10.51 | The_Randomness | How big should I make the map? |
| 21:11.08 | TekDroid | Standard to largest sized? |
| 21:11.46 | The_Randomness | Going to be doing Large Islands again |
| 21:12.28 | TekDroid | Oh yes, I remember who I was using now. |
| 21:13.53 | The_Randomness | Imperios: You said you wanted to play, right? |
| 21:15.19 | External | The_Randomness: What are you playing? |
| 21:15.40 | The_Randomness | Civ V |
| 21:16.32 | External | I see. What's your favorite Civilization? |
| 21:16.32 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (97e678ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.230.120.239) |
| 21:16.49 | TekDroid | There's Xho |
| 21:16.50 | Xho | Busy IRC |
| 21:16.56 | Xho | Yes I am here |
| 21:17.27 | OluapPlayer | spy |
| 21:17.33 | TekDroid | We're starting a game of Civ5 |
| 21:17.48 | The_Randomness | dunno, haven't played many of them |
| 21:17.55 | Xho | Ah |
| 21:17.57 | Xho | No thanks |
| 21:18.47 | TekDroid | Anyone else joining or just the three of us? |
| 21:19.14 | The_Randomness | I think Charles will |
| 21:19.15 | Imperios | I am going to join |
| 21:19.18 | The_Randomness | ok |
| 21:19.24 | The_Randomness | Add me on Steam, I'm Inquisitribble |
| 21:19.37 | External | Hm. Could I join? |
| 21:21.23 | The_Randomness | Nope, you don't get to join the cool kids' club |
| 21:21.51 | External | Ouch. Nevermind then. |
| 21:22.27 | DrodoEmpire | Rude |
| 21:22.44 | DrodoEmpire | D:< |
| 21:22.49 | Xho | External: That does mean yes |
| 21:22.52 | The_Randomness | 8) |
| 21:23.12 | Xho | Randomness speaks a different language most of the time |
| 21:23.16 | Xho | fuckin colonial gtfo |
| 21:23.46 | The_Randomness | fk u tea-eating demon |
| 21:24.22 | DrodoEmpire | doesn't know which side to take as he's a loyal colonial |
| 21:24.25 | Xho | Substitute coffee with tea and 10/10 |
| 21:25.47 | External | I'll keep that in mind |
| 21:26.48 | Imperios | You really shouldn't fight amongst themselves |
| 21:26.50 | Monet | The_Randomness: SOmething happen? |
| 21:26.57 | The_Randomness | It said you disconnected |
| 21:27.11 | The_Randomness | Sent you an invite (again) |
| 21:27.21 | Imperios | Charles_Murray is just waiting for the moment to destroy you Anglo-Saxons with his war baguette |
| 21:27.25 | Monet | I now worry this may be a problem for me tonight, but we'll see |
| 21:28.33 | The_Randomness | Imperios: Accept my friend request :| |
| 21:28.39 | The_Randomness | Otherwise I can't invite you |
| 21:30.30 | External | Nevermind, Civ 5 keeps crashing. |
| 21:32.04 | Monet | External: Try verifying the game cache |
| 21:32.07 | Monet | Worked for me |
| 21:33.30 | External | It's not that, it's my primitive graphics card. Loading Civ V and staying in the screen long enough will set off a long pattern of random crashes and freezing. |
| 21:33.32 | DrodoEmpire | External: And if that doesn't work, I'd try remodulating the deflector shield to match the quantum vibrations in the subspace corridor so that warp-power levels remain stable. |
| 21:33.39 | DrodoEmpire | (I sound smart now too) |
| 21:33.43 | External | what |
| 21:34.14 | Wormy_away | bbl |
| 21:34.15 | The_Randomness | Don't forget to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow |
| 21:34.21 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
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| 22:04.11 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 22:04.17 | External | Hi |
| 22:04.23 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
| 22:04.48 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:07.43 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 22:08.52 | Monet | hello |
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| 22:10.54 | External | DUCK |
| 22:10.58 | External | *FUCK |
| 22:11.06 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 22:11.38 | AdmiralPanda | I still don't know why "fuck a duck" is a thing british people say |
| 22:12.20 | External | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?page=3&term=fuck+a+duck |
| 22:15.20 | External | So, it's something people say when frustrated, and also means an orgy of bestiality at a zoo. |
| 22:16.49 | Monet | Sounds like it originated in London |
| 22:17.14 | Monet | Possibly for similar reasons as "Lovely jubly" |
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| 22:28.35 | ImpyDroid | Monet AdmiralPanda: So I tried to watch the old Fu Manchu movies |
| 22:28.55 | ImpyDroid | I love the opening lines |
| 22:29.13 | ImpyDroid | "The white defenses of Peking fell before the Oriental horde" |
| 22:29.27 | ImpyDroid | >white defenses >Oriental horde >Peking |
| 22:33.43 | ImpyDroid | I understand they were referring to British trading posts but still |
| 22:33.58 | Monet | Old cringe |
| 22:40.25 | External | h |
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| 22:42.49 | External | Hi |
| 22:44.18 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 22:44.36 | Monet | hi |
| 22:52.13 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 22:54.05 | External | passed |
| 23:17.39 | Monet | Well, the polls estimate that Britain could potentially leave the EU |
| 23:18.44 | Xho | I have a feeling that it's probably a bad idea to leave the EU |
| 23:19.34 | Monet | Its creaking under its own weight tbf. |
| 23:19.48 | Xho | True |
| 23:19.58 | Xho | Either way keeping the pound was a good idea |
| 23:20.04 | Xho | I mean look at Greece |
| 23:21.27 | Monet | That was a good move aye |
| 23:21.48 | Monet | I liked Europe as a free trade environment, but I think they may be takeing on too much |
| 23:31.13 | Xho | I'm wondering whether I can plot a fiction to increase the expanse of the Kicath |
| 23:31.35 | Xho | Sometimes I feel 212,000 systems is too small though I can't actually comprehend 212,000 |
| 23:32.34 | Monet | Well the Kicath did lose a lot several thousand years ago |
| 23:32.53 | Xho | True |
| 23:33.04 | Xho | That was about 7,000,000 at the time |
| 23:33.18 | Xho | Then all of a sudden, Zhulultu |
| 23:33.55 | Monet | I was just thinking maybe they could campaign to wrestle the region back but then I rememebred Xhodocto |
| 23:34.13 | Xho | "bad juju" - Kithworto, 28whenever |
| 23:35.09 | Xho | Whilst very unlikely I think the Gigaquadrant would probably dread a Kicathian hyperpower |
| 23:37.31 | Xho | It would basically be a second DCP and as half the Gigaquadrant hates the DCP right now |
| 23:37.43 | Monet | Might be good for them I suppose. |
| 23:38.13 | Monet | At the moment they're powerful but mre associated as a part of a greater entity aren't they? |
| 23:38.22 | Xho | Greater entity as in? |
| 23:38.40 | Monet | Otherp olitical bodies |
| 23:38.46 | Xho | A fair few |
| 23:39.36 | Xho | I think they'd like to get back into the Commonwealth but they have no presence in Andromeda |
| 23:39.37 | Monet | They could start taking initiative. |
| 23:40.09 | Xho | The Kicath are extremely butthurt over Andromeda come to think of it |
| 23:40.54 | Monet | I smel la possible campaign |
| 23:41.06 | Xho | Kicath - DESTROY THE RATS I MEAN XHODOCTO |
| 23:41.50 | Xho | The Kicath are powerful but not enough to wage war against the Dominion |
| 23:42.05 | Monet | The Draconis might be willing to lend a hand |
| 23:42.40 | Monet | Post-GXS |
| 23:42.44 | Xho | It would make sense for the Draconis to help, though I think Kithworto would ultimately not attempt to wage war against the Dominion |
| 23:43.29 | Xho | The Dominion's latent power would potentially wipe the Gigaquadrant off the map |
| 23:43.31 | Monet | Maybe something a little more peaceful. There's space in Inner Andromeda |
| 23:43.59 | Xho | Could work |
| 23:46.15 | Xho | I think their moderators would eventually like to have a seven-figure territorial control again but there's only so much where they could go |
| 23:46.27 | Xho | Also I think a 1,000,000 + territory might freak out some other powersr |
| 23:46.29 | Xho | powers* |
| 23:46.56 | Xho | The Kicath are affluent with a quarter of that turf, having a four times greater expanse might cause some powers to go "hold on a minute" |
| 23:47.14 | Monet | You talk about all this paranoia, but again they're more commonly associated with what they are a part of. |
| 23:47.25 | Xho | Suppose so |
| 23:47.47 | Xho | I'd usually get this idea that the Gigaquadrant sees the Kicath as bloodthirsty madmen |
| 23:48.51 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.07 | Xho | Suppose so |
| 23:49.25 | Xho | The Kicath wouldn't like that opinion though generally considering their elitist attitude |
| 23:49.50 | Xho | Being compared to a chained-up animal would certainly cause political tension |
| 23:50.33 | Monet | THe simplest answer might be showing more leadership or independant action. |
| 23:51.05 | Xho | Kithworto - for the love of god don't kill anyone |
| 23:52.13 | Xho | I wonder what Mirus would present for the Kicath |
| 23:52.32 | Monet | The DI may be in a lot of alliances and multinational groups, but its activity makes it look like its in charge |
| 23:53.26 | Xho | What would you think the native powers of Mirus would think of a wide territory expanse from the Kicath |
| 23:54.15 | Monet | "Oh Multus Esse more aliens!" |
| 23:55.36 | Xho | With the recent Tyranny fiasco they might construe the Kicath's arrival as another crazy moment |
| 23:56.33 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta - The trick is, murder a LOT of people just as some other crazy shit is going on, then when the crazy ends just shrug and say it was always like that. That's how we did it. |
| 23:56.46 | Xho | Kicath - genius |
| 23:56.57 | Monet | There's currently big debate among natives about whether or not any civilisation from Xonexi is a good thing |
| 23:58.10 | Xho | Considering the Kicath helped turn Borealis around, they're probably seen in a better light than the rest of the Xonexi natives |
| 23:58.30 | AdmiralPanda | The Fordanta had the best expansion strategy ever, wait until the rest of Andromeda was in the middle of hte shattering and nobody was looking at them, then murder everyone within a long-distance void phase and settle there |
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