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01:32.51HachimanHi
01:37.17DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/FhOgexZ - I feel so bad for laughing
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03:46.33DarcySupremesteven though there is nobody online because its late
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06:59.49DarcySupremestHey theres people in here now
06:59.56Wormydroidhi
06:59.56DarcySupremestthe curse of the Australian timezone is lifted
07:00.56DarcySupremestlong time no seeish
07:01.07DarcySupremestI was in here back in sepetember I believe
07:01.21DarcySupremestbut I was only here for like five minutes to see what was going on with the servers
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07:03.25DarcySupremestso whats been going on in here I guess, fiction and non fiction?
07:03.31DarcySupremesthow did last year treat everbody
07:03.56Vincent20100Hey Darcy
07:04.08DarcySupremestHeyo!
07:04.17Vincent20100The Xenoxi Allies are still fighting the DCP
07:04.25DarcySupremestyeah
07:04.41DarcySupremestspeaking of, sorry for organizing all that stuff Wormy and then disappearing
07:04.45DarcySupremestthat was really fuckin uncool of me
07:04.57Vincent20100The war of the Ages is remade
07:05.12DarcySupremestyeah I saw that announced in the forum
07:05.22DarcySupremestThe war of ages was the war with the Xhoducto wasn't it?
07:05.30DarcySupremestI wasn't around when it first happened
07:06.33WormydroidYes
07:07.32DarcySupremestrighto
07:07.38DarcySupremestwas it just to touch up the quality?
07:07.44DarcySupremestor was there some other reason to remake it?
07:13.08WormydroidTouch-up quality, give a chance for fictions established after to join in and fill in the void.
07:19.00DarcySupremestright, that makes sense
07:19.54DarcySupremestit seems as if at one point dark injection uninstalled itself or Spore on steam updated or something, so I gotta do all that rigamarole again
07:20.14DarcySupremestrigmarole even
07:23.02DarcySupremestbut I think I have a decent enough outline for my new fiction I just gotta get writing I guess
07:23.26DarcySupremestAs opposed to going for the Warhammer angle, I'm going for a more...cosmic horror sort of Dark Souls deal
07:24.05DarcySupremestI dunno if it will work but I'll put an outline in here at some point and see what people think of it
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07:47.36Wormydroidgets up early so I can queue up for the ticket machine at train station, to fibd machines out of order.
07:48.27DarcySupremestouch
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07:55.42Wormydroid_Hopefully I won't get fined for buying it on the train...
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08:08.02DarcySupremestHey Ghelae
08:08.15GhelaeHello.
08:11.31DarcySupremestwhats been going on?
08:15.25GhelaeIn recent wiki history? There's been a bit of work on a War of Ages rewrite.
08:15.34GhelaeOnly prologues so far.
08:23.37DarcySupremestyeah I saw
08:23.43DarcySupremesthows that been panning out so far
08:24.30GhelaeOn my part, I've stopped writing for a little over a month because of exams and PhD applications which have a higher priority for me.
08:25.04GhelaeAs to everyone else who started and then stopped, you'd have to ask them.
08:39.35DarcySupremestRight, know that feel
08:40.04DarcySupremestnot the PHD part of course, the running out of time part
08:40.23DarcySupremesthows that been going for you? thats pretty impressive
08:43.04GhelaeOne exam down on Monday, one and next Thursday and the other one the day afterwards. My mum's birthday on Sunday, so I'm going back home for the weekend after only four days back in Nottingham. And then two out of three PhD applications sent off with the third pretty much ready to go.
08:43.11Ghelaeone on next Thursday*
08:45.24DarcySupremestwhats your field?
08:45.29DarcySupremestif that is the correct term
08:45.43DarcySupremestI'm like...economics and buisness so...not real subjects that require a brain, haha
08:48.29GhelaeTheoretical physics.
08:49.04GhelaeThe degree I'm currently doing is Natural Sciences, but I realised that I don't like lab work and that narrowed down the available options quite a lot.
08:49.30DarcySupremestJesus, thats pretty fucking impressive
08:49.35DarcySupremestI hope you do well
08:49.52DarcySupremestas confusing as the science is, physics especially theoretical has always been interesting to me
08:49.58DarcySupremesteven if like over half of it goes over my head
08:52.23GhelaeWell, if ever you have any questions you can ask me. That's what Liquid Ink does.
08:53.19DarcySupremestNice, I try to be realistic with my stuff but I take a lot of liberties
08:53.38DarcySupremestI'm also a huge fan of cosmic horror and lovecraft so...most of my stories are usually pretty absurd
08:54.02DarcySupremestI'm debating even doing this new empire idea I'm mulling in my head
08:54.11GhelaeWhat's the idea?
08:55.37DarcySupremestI'm calling them like The Voidborn or something, and its very...like
08:56.37DarcySupremestthe idea is they worship this deity called Breachlord Asriphim, who is like this monsterous fifth dimenensional being, because their ultimate goal, is to become immortal
08:56.50DarcySupremestso the idea is they're searching for a way to survive the heat death of the universe
08:57.19DarcySupremestand my only idea on how to do that was if they moved in such a way as that time wasn't a constraint
08:59.25GhelaeTime travel, or something completely different?
08:59.42DarcySupremestWell time travel is impossible going backwards
09:00.07DarcySupremestunless you believe the like, theoretical ideas like...gosh whats that one weird thing
09:00.27DarcySupremestwhere if you have a cylindrical mass and you surf along it the time warping could reverse time
09:00.36DarcySupremestChances are I just butchered that
09:00.40DarcySupremestso let me find an actual link
09:02.43DarcySupremestTipler Cylinder, thats it
09:04.26GhelaeYeah; I know what you're thinking of. Generally, any method that allows for FTL allows for time travel, so time travel is possible in the SporeWikiverse (but thanks to some technobabble is more hassle than it's worth usually).
09:04.50DarcySupremestyeah
09:05.12DarcySupremestBut I was thinking the whole "timetravel" thing is really overdone and I didn't want to be 'that guy'
09:05.50DarcySupremestso my option was they want to see if they can make contact with a being in the forth of fifth dimension
09:06.46DarcySupremestlike they worship some fifth dimensional being that appears on and off throughout time, because in the fifth dimension a being could theoretically walk to time as if it was a physical point
09:07.19DarcySupremestso like they have all these religious texts of this being that appears for a fleeting moment as it wanders around and they're trying to devise a way to make contact with it
09:07.37DarcySupremestbecause their ultimate goal, is to be timeless
09:08.12DarcySupremestthey're already post singularity, but after you get to that point, time becomes like, not even a real issue
09:10.49GhelaeRight. So it's still sort of time-travel-like, but not in a sense of having a time machine, but in becoming free from the arrow of time.
09:11.02Ghelaein more generally becoming*
09:11.02DarcySupremestyeah, exactly
09:11.41GhelaeThat's actually like how we've described Chronoscopic Essence as being: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Time
09:12.34GhelaeFirst mentioned in the "Essence and Chronoscopic" section, naturally.
09:12.46DarcySupremestI because I'm a fanboy for lovecraft wanted to introduce a cosmic god into my story but because I like science fiction I wanted to do more with that
09:13.32DarcySupremestSo this thing they want to summon is this really freakish looking Void Dragon
09:13.36DarcySupremestI haven't decided if its like
09:14.27DarcySupremestgoing to be lovecraft in that sense though, just a great big ambivilent asshole who regards the third dimension as just the floor it walks on
09:14.55DarcySupremestand this is really interesting
09:15.03DarcySupremestnow I have to read it, curses
09:28.17DarcySupremestsee that was really interesting
09:28.22DarcySupremestI was wondering if there was like
09:28.27DarcySupremest'canon' for stuff like that
09:28.48DarcySupremestsome time I'd like to see if I can prove myself worthy enough to add to that Ghelae
09:29.58GhelaeMaybe you will do. The page as it is was pretty much entirely rewritten by me last July.
09:32.31DarcySupremestI'll write up a bit on Breachlord Asephrim and try fit him in the canon as best I can
09:33.01DarcySupremestI have the flag and the flag has like a charicature of what I want him to look like, but beyond that I haven't done much with him
09:33.07DarcySupremestor it rather
09:33.48DarcySupremesthttp://i.imgur.com/GEJXbUM.png
09:33.51DarcySupremest>said flag
09:37.26Ghelaelooks at the flag
09:40.00DarcySupremestthats really all I did today
09:40.06DarcySupremestbecause installing dark injection is like
09:40.13DarcySupremesta real nightmare with the steam release of spore
09:41.18DarcySupremestso all I did was bum around on photoshop and write
09:49.02DarcySupremestAnother curiousity I have
09:49.06DarcySupremestis how old the fiction is
09:49.08DarcySupremestin context
09:49.27DarcySupremestlike when were the first empires popping up
09:49.31DarcySupremesthow long ago was it
09:50.44GhelaeAll kinds of dates, but most within the past few thousand years I'd guess. For the most part, intergalactic interactions between empires didn't begin until the 2750s.
09:51.41GhelaeGalactic civilisation in the Cyrannus Galaxy began over 50,000 years ago. The Draconis became spacefaring over 200,000 years ago. The DCP are hardly spacefaring as of the early 21st century.
09:52.19DarcySupremestright
09:52.39DarcySupremestso I need to make the Voidborn a lot older if I want the "Ancient awaking from slumber"
09:53.08DarcySupremestmy intial idea is they lost some war a long long long time ago and fled in four great ships into hyperspace
09:53.17GhelaeThere were also various precursors, many of whom are now [[Fiction:Ultraterrestrials]].
09:53.17morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ultraterrestrials
09:53.18DarcySupremestwhere they remained until their enemies had disappeared
09:55.49DarcySupremestbut yeah
09:55.58DarcySupremestthey come from a long long time ago
09:56.14DarcySupremestand went into hiding after getting their asses kicked the first time they tried to summon the Breachlord
09:56.36DarcySupremestand only in contemperary time have they reawoken and returned to realspace to try again
09:56.59DarcySupremestnow their former enemies have either disappeared, gone extinct, were bred out or whatever
09:57.08DarcySupremestbasically, they waited until history forgot the war
09:57.13DarcySupremestand then are coming back to try again
10:01.12DarcySupremestthis shouldn't be an issue, I just have to say they've been asleep for a lot longer
10:04.47GhelaeGo back more than 1.5 billion years and you run into the Xhulultu. That stills gives you a nearly a billion years before complex life appears on most of the Gigaquadrant's planets, though.
10:04.55GhelaeZhulultu*
10:08.02DarcySupremest>Xhulultu
10:08.07DarcySupremestI understand that reference
10:08.16DarcySupremestand yeah not THAT old obviously
10:08.26DarcySupremestbut old enough that they are remarkably ancient
10:08.57DarcySupremestI'm actually thinking making them around the time of the first Ultraterrestrials but because of their fuck ups during the war the never really got to progress beyond Singularity
10:09.05DarcySupremestsort of like...missing the Godhood Schoolbus
10:09.07DarcySupremestif you will
10:09.17DarcySupremestand now they need to find their own way to school
10:17.08DarcySupremestI might leave their enemies vague and up to interpretation
10:21.41DarcySupremestbecause that doesn't matter so much
10:21.43DarcySupremesttime does matter
10:22.00DarcySupremestI might say most of this happened a bit after the War of Ancients
10:22.19DarcySupremestso maybe 950 million or something, more or less
10:22.22DarcySupremestThey weren't exactly like
10:22.25DarcySupremestbig players
10:22.53DarcySupremestactually I could leave the Grimwar up to a collaborative fiction
10:23.09DarcySupremestand see if other writers want to take the roles
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11:04.56DarcySupremestAyyo
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12:59.12WormydroidWell Kit Kat chunkie bars now look thin to my horror.
13:00.07WormydroidWhat is wrong with the world, it is getting crappier. Eventually kit kats will be thin as wafers
13:04.58WormydroidTest
13:06.03DarcySupremestPassed
13:06.14DarcySupremestSorry I'm just hype
13:06.21DarcySupremestthere is a cloverfield sequel coming
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13:13.00DarcySupremestInternet giving you Sass Worm?
13:13.50WormydroidI'm on a network
13:14.36WormydroidCwn never be too sure with mobiles
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13:32.44DarcySupremestSo, as I was discussing earlier, I'm thinking of like
13:33.07DarcySupremestreally playing up hard science fiction and cosmic horror/lovecraft elements for my new fiction
13:33.31WormydroidInteresting mix
13:33.40DarcySupremestso a lot of it will be based on hyperspace and dimensional fuckery
13:33.59DarcySupremestThe idea is I want to introduce what could be considered an outer god, but try ground it in reality
13:34.18DarcySupremestwhich is pretty close to what lovecraft actually did I guess
13:34.30DarcySupremestnon of the outer gods were really that "god like" they just were in comparison to us
13:38.21DarcySupremestmy issue is making it work
13:38.39DarcySupremestlike I really don't want to be "that guy" and make some gamebreaking thing
13:39.07DarcySupremestI'll write up the ideas for the Breachlord and let you all suggest changes and it and stuff
13:39.20DarcySupremestbecause I know how annoying it is for mary sues in collaborative work
13:42.53WormydroidThat is the best wsy to introduce.
13:44.10DarcySupremestI'd love to get to work on its models but, installing dark injection is a nightmare with the steam release
13:44.14DarcySupremestif I want the robot parts
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13:47.08JepardiHi
13:47.42DarcySupremestheya
13:57.17WormydroidHm, I wonder how much I could use Cortana to do tasks for me by voice
13:57.53WormydroidI seem to have trigger finger so I need to reduce mouse/keyboard activity
13:58.40DarcySupremestI've had windows 10 for ages and I have not used cortana once
13:58.41WormydroidI haven't activated Cortana due to my mistrust of Microsoft
13:58.48DarcySupremestsame
13:58.58DarcySupremestI went through the "advanced" set up for Windows 10
13:59.00DarcySupremestand it was like
13:59.04DarcySupremesta massacre of unticking boxes
13:59.15DarcySupremestit blew my mind how much they were trying to slip under the radar
13:59.42WormydroidSame
14:00.17OluapPlayerWatch out, she's gonna come out of the screen The Ring-like and slap you in the hand to make it hurt
14:00.50DarcySupremestthe more terrifying thought is like
14:00.54DarcySupremestpeople less tech literate
14:01.00DarcySupremestdidn't do it
14:01.56DarcySupremestso theres potentially millions of people who have their hardware pratically belong to Microsoft
14:02.04WormydroidIf I just use Cortana to open applications or websites I browse for work, thats fine, or to write text into documents
14:02.28WormydroidTrouble is it can read activity not using Cortana
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14:03.19DarcySupremestyeye
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14:11.27DarcySupremestMy god this robot part pack is like
14:11.34DarcySupremestimpossible to install with the steam release
14:11.37DarcySupremestanybody have a work around?
14:11.59DarcySupremestI honestly do not even remember how I got this working the first time
14:12.45DarcySupremestOh if I just install manually it works
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14:48.20DarcySupremestright
14:48.24DarcySupremestgot the mods working
14:48.50DarcySupremestI'll get started on a model for my stuff tommorrow, I'm gonna be online most of the day due to Diablo 3
14:49.07DarcySupremestsee you all in a few hours!
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15:31.14GhelHello.
15:31.30MonetHello
15:32.43OluapPlayerHi
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16:08.11TekDroidO.o This Space Engine black hole is so massive that I'm over 1000 ly away and the distortion is still highly visible
16:08.48TekDroidActually for that matter the singularity itself is still visible that far away
16:09.27MonetBy singularity do you mean the event horizon?
16:09.39TekDroidyeah
16:14.29TekDroidI think this thing's event horizon is at least a light year wide. It's freaking massive.
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16:15.00MonetHi
16:15.16MonetTekdroid: Where is this monster black hole exactly?
16:18.03TekDroidMonet: IC 1101, largest known RL galaxy. Seems to be 0.8ly wide, that was around where things got screwy and I fled.
16:18.51MonetI don't blame you
16:19.11MonetThe gaping emptiness of an event horizon often gives me chills.
16:19.50TekDroidActually I was doing a flyby of the horizon when the stuff on my right start appearing on my left.
16:20.50MonetDefinitely don't blame you
16:21.42TekDroidHm... something broke. My speed is now -nan(ind) gigalightyears/second
16:24.48MonetWell you wanted to leav
16:26.40TekDroidActually I was trying to get to this: http://i.imgur.com/ypPre1Wh.jpg
16:27.11MonetHo-ry shitbollz.
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16:27.58MonetHo-ry shitbollz.
16:28.32MonetThat accretion disk must be incinerating to be within.
16:28.45Tek0516The current beta patch adds accretion disks
16:32.37Tek0516http://i.imgur.com/m0ufl4i.jpg more distant shot
16:33.15MonetTHat's some accreation disk
16:34.19MonetIf this hole is almost a light year across, then that means the distance between the centre and the rim of the disk is comparable to that between Sol and Alpha Centuri A and B
16:34.35Tek0516oh sorry, this is a different black hole.
16:34.53MonetOh
16:35.28Tek0516The other massive one didn't have one, though I read some users see it and others don't
16:36.08Tek0516IC 1101 itself is biggest than the distance between the milky way and andromeda
16:39.05MonetAnd its only about a billion light years away.
16:40.18Tek0516I forget where the one I posted it, but it was around 8 billion ly from IC 1101 in a procedural galaxy.
16:41.02MonetIt has a bright radio source at the center, which is associated with a massive black hole. > is this what you think blew your mind?
16:42.59MonetI was doing some observation for the planets i nthe ALdra system, what I didn't note, annd what I might leave out on the page, is the star pair I found are 12bln years old.
16:43.55Tek0516Watching that gaping void and the increasing spacetime distortions in-game is what terrifies me. They're so alluring yet nightmarish.
16:47.22OluapPlayerBlack holes are the scariest things in space
16:47.28MonetI ownder a little how different would the DI be were Alcanti 12bln years old.
16:48.43MonetI guess shifting Alcanti that far back would put it in the time of the earlier precursors
16:51.10MonetNot that I'm going to, jsut a thought experiment.
16:51.37MonetGiven the current timeline they'd already be at Star Dragon level if they were moved back.
16:52.20Tek0516The planet itself could be that old, but the Draconis species relatively new still
16:52.42MonetTrue, but there's also the gap.
16:53.15MonetEither a precursor race might have risen and fallen (could explain the warm climate around Minos'Drakon) or it took longer for intelligent life to evolve on Alcanti.
16:54.01Tek0516Both are valid
16:54.16Monettrue.
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16:58.13MonetThough they wouldn't be one of the Four. A Tertamian member if Imp is okay (or maybe one of the others)
17:00.08MonetALthough 12bln years old sets it in the early era of the expanded universe
17:00.41MonetHmm might knock Alcanti's age to 7-8bln.
17:08.21ImperiosHi
17:08.44ImperiosI passed, but unfortunately not well enough to get to free education
17:10.37MonetThat sucks. But at the same time, the great news is you passed.
17:10.41MonetHow well did you do?
17:20.08Monethttp://www.clinkhostels.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Luchtfoto-Amsterdam-in-de-winter-1_jpg_300.jpg didn't realise this was what Amsterdam looked like from above.
17:20.52Tek0516Interesting
17:21.40MonetI knew it had canals but I wasn't expecting concentric canals.
17:25.06OluapPlayerJesus why is Steam pre-loading so slow
17:25.18OluapPlayerIf they let you download the game before release, you should be able to play it immediately
17:26.27MonetWhat are you getting?
17:26.43Tek0516Ugh, this lecture has had an hour of explaining what a subset is. There are literally 3 simple points on the board and it's taken an hour. -.z
17:26.46Tek0516*-.-
17:28.27Tek0516Oh, finally a 4th point
17:32.00OluapPlayerDragon's Dogma
17:32.19MonetAh right
17:32.37MonetWOndered about getting that but I don't want to be distracted.
17:32.56OluapPlayerIt was available to pre-load, yet I need to wait 30 more minutes for it to launch
17:33.00OluapPlayer20 already waited by now
17:33.06TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, what game?
17:33.17OluapPlayerI just said it
17:33.38Technobliteratorahh
17:35.00ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/984/111/8d2.png
17:37.25OluapPlayerdum /pol/
17:37.40MonetI've heard you say /pol/-acks, it might be intentinoal but it sounds funny in English.
17:37.40OluapPlayerYou did your exam, go work on Alhassal
17:37.50MonetBritish English I mean
17:46.13ImperiosIsn't "polack" an insult in English?
17:47.33MonetCan't recall, but it does sound awfully close to 'bollock'
17:47.54OluapPlayerIt's time
17:48.01OluapPlayerIf you need me, I'm dead, forget I exist
17:48.15ImperiosPolack is Polish and Russian for "Pole"
17:48.18MonetCharming.
17:49.28MonetI think most English call them "Pole", though like "Pakkie" it's become offensive.
17:49.45MonetSo when an English-speaker is being nice we call them Polish, when we're not we cal lthem Poles.
17:54.31ImperiosNeo-Nazis being called "Poles" is both fitting and ironic
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17:58.58HachimanHi
17:59.40MonetHi
18:06.04ImperiosHi
18:06.40ImperiosNow that exams are over, I can try Arkham Asylum
18:08.22MonetGoddamnImperios: Riddle-Me-This: I am green, white and red all over? What am I?
18:08.35GoddamnImperiosHungary
18:08.39GoddamnImperiosOr Italy
18:08.50GoddamnImperiosOr Iran
18:09.06MonetNope, sorry
18:09.40MonetI am the Joker, after braining someone with a bouncy mallet
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18:51.28HachimanHi
19:06.16Technobliteratoraw, Hachi and Oluap both left
19:06.19Technobliteratorhi Random
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19:22.49GoddamnImperiosTechnobliterator: I succesfully shipped my ex with my friend
19:23.36Technobliteratorwat
19:24.25GoddamnImperiosAs in, acquainted them and now they are dating
19:25.28Technobliteratoroh
19:25.30Technobliteratorgj
19:28.23GoddamnImperiosTechnobliterator: So apparently the new Wonder Woman movie is going to be set during WW1
20:06.15GoddamnImperioshttp://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452888279181.png
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21:46.57ImperiosXho drom: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452892757884.png
21:47.10Xhooomph
21:47.18dromgeezuh
22:14.53dromTek0516: I'm feeling motived to continue working on my C++ project, but I'm too afraid to spend another 5 hours to unjam unresolveable STD symbols
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