| 00:00.37 | Xho | Not quite sure what Kicathian fashion is really |
| 00:00.45 | Xho | Knowing them, minimalistic |
| 00:01.03 | Xho | And monochromatic |
| 00:01.12 | Monet | Hey, sometimes minimalistic gets in vogue. |
| 00:01.20 | Monet | Fashion designers are odd sometimes. |
| 00:01.27 | Xho | And their whole augmentation culture probably opens up a different vein of fashion |
| 00:02.03 | Monet | And I've come to the ocnclusion that events like Paris and Milan are more like art exhibitions for clothes, since how often does what is seen in Paris end up in Oxford Street? |
| 00:02.09 | Xho | Kitalatheraz has prosthetic forearms in which he has ornate Kicathian designs plated on to it |
| 00:02.19 | Xho | Not very often |
| 00:02.45 | Xho | Kicathian art...hm |
| 00:03.08 | Monet | "Presenting now: Kitronuvazor's fall range of Kicathian bionic arms" |
| 00:03.22 | Xho | Geometric is probably the best way of explaining |
| 00:04.20 | Xho | http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/abstract-geometric-pattern-interwoven-volumetric-grid-lines-background-art-deco-style-35090710.jpg That's an almost perfect idea |
| 00:04.42 | Xho | Angular and very sharp kind of stuff |
| 00:05.07 | Xho | I'd imagine anything more circular would encompass high-end art |
| 00:06.20 | Xho | They come from a world where there's very little inspiration from flora |
| 00:06.28 | Monet | "Circles are such elegant haute coture!" |
| 00:06.55 | Xho | https://kirakira713.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/geometric-11.jpg That would be quite Kicathian as well |
| 00:07.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Those look quite nice actually |
| 00:07.55 | Monet | THere is an organisational beauty to them. |
| 00:08.22 | Xho | Upper class art would tend to do things in a more classical nature |
| 00:08.46 | Xho | The Aknatazán ancestral home has marble-like sculptures |
| 00:09.28 | Xho | Very dark architecture but still |
| 00:09.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though I imagine a lot of Drodo art may look like this - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/RCWoodvilleJr_21Lancers_Omdurman.jpg |
| 00:09.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | A lot of Drodo art would focus on real life or real life events in general actually |
| 00:10.35 | Xho | http://gmgimports.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Marble-Roma-Black-Close-Up.jpg I imagine that would be the kind of material the Aknatazán household would use |
| 00:10.44 | Xho | Compliments their general black skin colour |
| 00:10.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | Looks expensive |
| 00:10.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | :p |
| 00:11.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | Very nice, but man, expensive |
| 00:11.13 | Xho | The Aknatazán family is the comparatively richest family in the Kicath race so it does fit them |
| 00:11.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 00:11.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | Fair enough then |
| 00:11.38 | Xho | Kithworto doesn't see much of that wealth any more |
| 00:11.40 | Monet | Aknatazan - Our guns print money! |
| 00:11.54 | Xho | That and being a deity and whatnot he doesn't really care for it |
| 00:13.19 | Xho | But yeah, historically the oldest and richest family in the Kicath race |
| 00:13.39 | Xho | Muchos assets and mucho influence |
| 00:14.04 | Xho | Also generally identifable due to their silvery-black skin colour |
| 00:14.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | thatsracist.gif |
| 00:14.29 | Xho | Not even kidding |
| 00:14.37 | ImpyDroid | Kithworto - we wuz verezaph and shiet |
| 00:14.48 | Xho | Kithworto and Kitalatheraz are both silver/black |
| 00:14.53 | ImpyDroid | Wair |
| 00:15.03 | ImpyDroid | >marble-roma |
| 00:15.07 | ImpyDroid | >Roma |
| 00:15.24 | Monet | It's like Targaryens and purple eyes. |
| 00:15.24 | Xho | Kithworto - pax kithworto or don't |
| 00:15.29 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 00:15.41 | Xho | That and the Aknatazán Kicath have red eyes |
| 00:15.52 | Xho | It's basically the fact that essence power runs through their family |
| 00:16.04 | Monet | Kithworto - Where. Ar. My. DRAGONS...oh wait. |
| 00:16.35 | ImpyDroid | Xho: I meant gypsy Roma, not Rome Roma |
| 00:16.47 | Xho | Kithworto - i sed pax kithworto or don't |
| 00:17.19 | Xho | But I'll probably get started on that story once I finish Dragon Speaker |
| 00:17.22 | Xho | Which will be around 2018 |
| 00:17.30 | OluapPlayer | fuk u |
| 00:17.35 | Xho | u |
| 00:17.52 | Monet | Just in time for Thanos to come to the silver screen and wrek face. |
| 00:18.04 | Xho | Kithworto - not nice |
| 00:18.19 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of art I need to do some Radeon architecture after my math exam |
| 00:18.59 | ImpyDroid | I wonder if they could use calligraphy in architecture but that would be difficult to make in spire |
| 00:19.20 | Xho | spire akbar |
| 00:19.31 | Xho | Right I need sleep |
| 00:20.03 | Monet | I think properly pulling of genuine tier 2/1 architecture is going to be triky in Spore. |
| 00:21.19 | ImpyDroid | Well modern Radeon architecture is basically sentient |
| 00:21.31 | ImpyDroid | And made of shiny black metal |
| 00:21.47 | ImpyDroid | And can reshape itself at will |
| 00:23.19 | ImpyDroid | But the forms of the architecture I imagine have changed little over time |
| 00:23.33 | OluapPlayer | 1st world Radeon problems = the chair doesn't let me sit on it |
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| 00:24.52 | ImpyDroid | Radeons being the conservative rats they are, I imagine they would hold to their traditional aesthetics despite their advancing technology |
| 00:25.37 | ImpyDroid | So they'd build a city made entirely out of sentient nanomachines, but would only command these nanomachines to build giant Orthodox-ish cathedrals |
| 00:26.03 | OluapPlayer | The Divinarium out-UNO'd UNO |
| 00:27.33 | ImpyDroid | They kinda always had them |
| 00:27.53 | ImpyDroid | Actually come to think about it |
| 00:28.53 | ImpyDroid | Imagine the Divinarium using force fields to build cities |
| 00:28.55 | ImpyDroid | Like |
| 00:29.17 | ImpyDroid | Building-shaped force fields + holograms = buildings |
| 00:29.37 | OluapPlayer | You pass through holograms tho |
| 00:29.38 | OluapPlayer | Not a veyr good building |
| 00:29.46 | Monet | THat's not too far fetched an idea |
| 00:30.17 | Monet | Actually I think there has been ideas tossed around of prefabs or eve nentire cities contructed using forcefields and holograms. |
| 00:30.37 | OluapPlayer | How does that work |
| 00:30.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | *pulls the power plug* |
| 00:30.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hah! |
| 00:30.41 | OluapPlayer | Holograms are not physical |
| 00:30.41 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlauer: Hence forcefields |
| 00:30.50 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Holograms inside forcefields |
| 00:30.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Holograms and forcefields to give the holograms physical presence and substance |
| 00:30.59 | OluapPlayer | Sounds pointless |
| 00:31.04 | ImpyDroid | You make holograms then you activate a forcefield around them to make them tangible |
| 00:31.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | Well it'd take a lot of power |
| 00:31.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | And if that power went out... |
| 00:31.20 | ImpyDroid | It would make building very quick though |
| 00:31.27 | Monet | You get a very quickly-assembled building though |
| 00:31.30 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how that's anymore productive than making an actual building |
| 00:31.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | That is true |
| 00:31.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | What with making building faster |
| 00:32.00 | Monet | Maybe the idea could be used in conjunction with the nanotech. |
| 00:32.50 | Monet | Assembling a building with nanomachines will still take time - erect the building with forcefields and holograms, then the nanos fill in the hologram, but the building would still be entirely serviceable as they assemble it. |
| 00:34.28 | ImpyDroid | As for the actual look, big domes |
| 00:34.32 | ImpyDroid | And SPIRES |
| 00:34.32 | Monet | The drawback of "what if the power went out" isn't so bad if the power supply and the projectors are robust. |
| 00:34.38 | ImpyDroid | Domes and spires |
| 00:35.26 | ImpyDroid | Like in Byzantine architecture |
| 00:36.19 | Monet | Could do |
| 00:36.30 | Monet | Black spires and domes |
| 00:37.46 | ImpyDroid | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/AlexanderNevskyCathedral-Sofia-6.jpg/2560px-AlexanderNevskyCathedral-Sofia-6.jpg A bit like this |
| 00:38.41 | ImpyDroid | http://www.hotelbuyukkeban.com/wp-content/uploads/Best-Price-Hotel-near-Sultanahmet-Istanbul.jpg Or this, this is Ottoman but it was derived from Byzantine anyway |
| 00:40.31 | Monet | WOuld Radeons build minarets? |
| 00:40.44 | DrodoEmpire_ | Minarets are Islamic, aren't they? |
| 00:40.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | Like exclusively |
| 00:41.23 | Monet | Yeah, used by Imams to call Muslims ot prayer iirc |
| 00:42.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right, so unless Radeons are muslim why would they use them? |
| 00:42.37 | Monet | Maybe a place for clerics to chant the Messengers' will or lessons? |
| 00:42.58 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire_: Well Christianity has bell towers |
| 00:43.16 | ImpyDroid | Which are pretty much the same thing as minarets if you think about it |
| 00:43.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah I suppose. Religions have related structures to minarets I guess\ |
| 00:43.37 | ImpyDroid | But yes I thought of minaret-ike tower thingies |
| 00:44.02 | ImpyDroid | I actually made minarets in Spore a long while ago, when first making Radeons |
| 00:44.18 | ImpyDroid | They were used as entertainment centers in my playthrough |
| 00:44.32 | ImpyDroid | Absolutely haram |
| 00:44.44 | Monet | Lol |
| 00:44.44 | Monet | Well kind of makes sense |
| 00:44.51 | Monet | Imams need to have *really* good singing voices. |
| 00:45.32 | ImpyDroid | Iman Jastin al-Biber |
| 00:45.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
| 00:47.03 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire_: Well Islam was always a big inspiration for Radeon design |
| 00:47.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | Fair enough, yeah |
| 00:47.22 | ImpyDroid | Radeons are like Shi'a Catholic Taoists |
| 00:48.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | Drodo - radeons have muslamic ray guns confirmed |
| 00:48.55 | ImpyDroid | Their visual design, dress, and the way they elect their religious leaders is based on Catholicis |
| 00:49.01 | ImpyDroid | Catholicism |
| 00:49.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | Okay, |
| 00:49.18 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.35 | ImpyDroid | The history of their religion, its implementation and role in society, as well as the role their clergy plays, and to a lesser extent their visual culture is more similar to Islam |
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| 00:51.29 | ImpyDroid | So yeah |
| 00:51.44 | ImpyDroid | They are also somewhat Jewish-ish |
| 00:52.09 | ImpyDroid | So Jewish Muslim Catholic Taoists |
| 00:53.20 | ImpyDroid | "We will balance your Yin and Yang by bombing you, stealing all your condoms and little boys, as well as taking the money we lent you" |
| 00:55.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | oy vey |
| 01:02.59 | ImpyDroid | Imagine a Radeon version of the WBC |
| 01:03.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
| 01:03.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | I'll be back |
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| 02:18.25 | PurpleBoraillian | hello |
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| 03:26.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
| 03:40.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | Fun fact: Pythagoras *may* have run a mathematical death cult. |
| 03:41.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | There was at least one instance where a man was killed for proving the existence of irrational numbers, which contradicted the stance of Pythagoreans at the time |
| 03:41.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though, the man may've been exiled instead |
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| 11:00.24 | AdmiralPanda | don't you just love it when you're one of hte only people in an RP server that actually RP's? |
| 11:01.02 | AdmiralPanda | got promoted to sergeant in one day (3 promotions) when normally you can only be promoted once every three days, that's how much the everyone else sucks XD |
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| 11:04.33 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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| 11:56.56 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 13:47.38 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Just updated that new report - there's a story link now. |
| 13:48.04 | OluapPlayer | Zalk'don's reply stays the same |
| 13:48.28 | Monet | I know it will because AN20 doesn't know half of what really happened |
| 13:48.50 | Monet | Is funny though |
| 13:49.54 | Monet | Millions die and tens of millions forced from their homes -> Loron disappointed they had done it. |
| 13:50.09 | Monet | hadn't done it* |
| 13:57.12 | Monet | I was mrely pointing out I updated the report bey inserting a link to the event in question. |
| 13:57.46 | OluapPlayer | I get it, it's just that you pinged me in specific |
| 13:58.19 | Monet | You were the first to respond to the report. |
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| 14:00.16 | Monet | Thought you might be interested in the story the report is talking about. |
| 14:03.08 | OluapPlayer | I've seen the story already, I remember it from back when it started |
| 14:04.24 | Monet | I wasn't aware, sorry. |
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| 14:45.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
| 14:47.22 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 14:47.56 | Monet | Hi |
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| 17:17.20 | Imperios | Tell me when Hachi comes |
| 17:17.59 | Monet_2 | okay |
| 17:21.50 | OluapPlayer | Hachi is asleep |
| 17:22.24 | Monet_2 | It's 5:30 in the afternoon here in the UK |
| 17:23.08 | Monet_2 | Well, 5.22 |
| 17:23.16 | OluapPlayer | He messaged me on Skype, he couldn't sleep at night |
| 17:23.19 | OluapPlayer | So he's napping atm |
| 17:23.50 | Monet_2 | right |
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| 17:28.38 | Charles_Bot | Lorons like baguette. French cultural victory complete. |
| 17:29.18 | Ghel | Well of course. Have you never tried using baguette as a pizza base? |
| 17:29.46 | OluapPlayer | Jol'kiar - im gonna go gandhi up ays |
| 17:29.48 | OluapPlayer | *yas |
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| 17:31.06 | OluapPlayer | ~tackle Cyrannian |
| 17:31.07 | infobot | ACTION tackles Cyrannian to the ground. |
| 17:31.10 | Charles_Bot | France - Too late, beat you to it. |
| 17:31.19 | Cyrannian | ~slam OluapPlayer |
| 17:31.19 | infobot | ACTION slams OluapPlayer against a large cement Tux |
| 17:32.16 | Monet_2 | Gonna go Ghandi up yas -> hours after Alcanti was self-nuked. >> #toosoon? |
| 17:32.30 | Charles_Bot | ^^^^ |
| 17:32.46 | OluapPlayer | Zalk'don - our words is bakked by PIZZAS |
| 17:33.28 | Charles_Bot | France - Your pizzas are backed by OUR BREAD |
| 17:34.02 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna go and expand on Zalk'don's page since I decided to use him today |
| 17:34.10 | OluapPlayer | The Loron char pages are all so outdated |
| 17:42.00 | Technobliterator | I tried to update them a while back, but I could only do so much |
| 17:42.57 | Technobliterator | Haven't had time to do anything on the wiki with this revision, and once I do have time, it's Kicath Loron History, so I can't help, sorry |
| 17:44.31 | OluapPlayer | I would have updated these pages ages ago |
| 17:44.41 | OluapPlayer | But for some reason, I get tired and lazy just by looking at them |
| 17:44.45 | OluapPlayer | They awaken by inner Loron |
| 17:44.47 | OluapPlayer | my* |
| 17:45.49 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 17:47.23 | OluapPlayer | It's the rather overwhelming number of things they all have done |
| 17:47.38 | OluapPlayer | Which is why I decided to generalize their History sections to "since then they did a bunch of stuff" |
| 17:49.15 | OluapPlayer | It's hard to update the Histories of 14 characters when they're virtually always together |
| 17:52.08 | Technobliterator | mhm |
| 17:56.08 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Zalk%27don dere |
| 17:56.55 | Technobliterator | "DA DON OF BOMZ." |
| 17:56.57 | Technobliterator | 10/10 already |
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| 17:57.21 | dino82_ | hello all |
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| 17:59.06 | Technobliterator | this is good |
| 17:59.08 | Technobliterator | hi dino |
| 18:00.29 | dino82_ | hi Jo!' |
| 18:00.53 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:01.54 | dino82_ | @Monet: My g oodness, what do I read now! Alcantia hit by disaster! |
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| 18:08.59 | Xho | bork bork bork |
| 18:09.02 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 18:09.06 | dino82_ | bork bork? |
| 18:09.07 | dino82_ | :D |
| 18:10.31 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:12.32 | Monet | So yesterday David Bowie passed on. |
| 18:13.17 | Monet | Feels like the end of an era to me. |
| 18:13.57 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYnnQrZUwAELwDs.jpg |
| 18:14.05 | Xho | y |
| 18:16.04 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Are you busy atm? |
| 18:16.20 | Technobliterator | I can take a break |
| 18:16.29 | Technobliterator | What's up? |
| 18:16.36 | OluapPlayer | Was wondering if you were available for more Loron stuff |
| 18:16.55 | Technobliterator | Hm, maybe in a couple of minutes, I'll let you know |
| 18:17.00 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 18:18.45 | OluapPlayer | Xho: do ebul axis section nao |
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| 18:19.29 | DrodoEmpire | Gah, back >.< |
| 18:20.29 | Xho | I've had a very bad day today so I'd rather keep away from doing fiction |
| 18:20.44 | OluapPlayer | dum |
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| 18:28.11 | dino82_ | @monet: yeah shoking news |
| 18:28.18 | dino82_ | a living legends passed away |
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| 18:29.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Dicksticks |
| 18:30.19 | Monet | dino82_: Like all his fans I imagine he's currently soaring though the stars. |
| 18:31.38 | dino82_ | @Monet: True! |
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| 18:32.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
| 18:33.25 | Imperios | Technobliterator: I just thought of something |
| 18:33.30 | Imperios | Remember Br'klakkon? |
| 18:33.35 | Technobliterator | Oh? |
| 18:33.37 | Technobliterator | I do |
| 18:33.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/2op7ubm.jpg |
| 18:34.22 | Xho | scout with a hat |
| 18:35.00 | OluapPlayer_ | dats just a scot |
| 18:35.02 | OluapPlayer_ | scout even |
| 18:35.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Demoman is the scot |
| 18:35.17 | Imperios | I just realised that I never ever explained why he is like that |
| 18:35.24 | Imperios | As in, that smart |
| 18:35.40 | Imperios | Obviously turning into a MN increased his intelligence but he was always abnormally intelligent |
| 18:36.10 | Monet | Other Loron - NNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRDDD |
| 18:36.41 | OluapPlayer_ | The fact he speaks normal makes him a disgusting character |
| 18:36.55 | OluapPlayer_ | Loron who speaks normal = no-no |
| 18:37.08 | Technobliterator | could be a genetic mutation from a chik |
| 18:37.58 | Imperios | Speaking of chiks this could actually be a very interesting explanation |
| 18:38.15 | Imperios | Maybe he's like a Loron version of an intersex and/or transgender person |
| 18:38.33 | Technobliterator | that would be interesting |
| 18:38.37 | Monet | An LGBT Loron? |
| 18:38.39 | Imperios | As in, having thought patterns and the like that are, by the standards of his species, mostly feminine |
| 18:38.43 | Imperios | Monet: Mostly T |
| 18:38.59 | OluapPlayer_ | But Loron are an all-male race |
| 18:39.07 | Monet | Actually that's funny because he's currently inside another man lol. |
| 18:39.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Loron and Norol are different species altogether, not genders of each other |
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| 18:39.27 | Technobliterator | Gratz'kaoz was originally smart, but then just became so insane he dropped the "smart" part |
| 18:39.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah but he didn't speak normal |
| 18:39.43 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: Wait, remind me, are they hatched from the same eggs or not |
| 18:39.48 | OluapPlayer_ | He was just a little brighter than the other kids |
| 18:40.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Norol eat dead Loron and create Loron eggs from those |
| 18:40.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Biologically they're two separate species |
| 18:40.33 | Monet | I always assumed the difference between Loron and Norol was just a ridiculou degree of sexual dimorphism |
| 18:40.47 | Imperios | A Loron with some Norol genetics then |
| 18:40.53 | Technobliterator | no, they don't really share DNA |
| 18:41.07 | OluapPlayer_ | The Norol existed by themselves, then the Taldar created the Loron for them |
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| 18:41.28 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm pretty sure that's in their creature page |
| 18:41.33 | Technobliterator | and then the Loron became so numerous and much stronger than the Norol that they ended up taking control |
| 18:41.34 | Technobliterator | it is |
| 18:41.35 | OluapPlayer_ | If it isn't, it should be |
| 18:41.42 | Monet | Considering how the Loron turned out that sounds rather sadistic of them |
| 18:41.55 | Imperios | But still the idea of a transgender Loron |
| 18:41.56 | OluapPlayer_ | They were created to be bodyguards |
| 18:42.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Then the Vyro'Ralza came in and ruined them |
| 18:42.09 | Imperios | Br'klakkon - DIE CIS SCUM |
| 18:42.37 | Monet | Maybe smart Loron are Loron-Norol hybrids? |
| 18:42.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Fre'kloar - DAI NORMALS-EEKIN MUTANT |
| 18:42.45 | OluapPlayer_ | SPEEKIN* |
| 18:43.34 | Technobliterator | hybrid makes more sense |
| 18:44.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Nonetheless, as far as stories say, Loron are asexual and don't even have reproductive organs |
| 18:44.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Since they reproduce by being eaten |
| 18:44.44 | Monet | Or maybe Loron DNA contains a recessive gene that gives a tiny number of Loron super-intelligence compared to other Loron. |
| 18:44.47 | Xho | Kicath - nigga dat just weird |
| 18:45.04 | OluapPlayer_ | Loron - dum kickass |
| 18:46.00 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: I think there were some occasions on which Br'klakkon spoke normal Loronish |
| 18:46.15 | OluapPlayer_ | He should speak normal Loron all the time |
| 18:46.22 | OluapPlayer_ | 90% of the fun of the Loron comes from their speech |
| 18:47.00 | Monet | Br'Klakkon - Thoose wer times I waz in discooze |
| 18:47.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Which is why I was always against Ref'kolar speaking normal, and why he went full Loron speek in Da Ice Cube Trials |
| 18:47.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Remove the speech from the Loron and you may as well use a different race altogether |
| 18:47.46 | Imperios | Not sure if it was a quote or an actual dialogue in Andromeda WAr |
| 18:47.52 | Imperios | Basically he tried to address his Loron |
| 18:47.55 | Imperios | No-one understood him |
| 18:48.07 | Imperios | So he began to spoke normal Loron |
| 18:48.56 | OluapPlayer_ | Still, first Sarec, now Volkarus has a tranny inside of him |
| 18:49.00 | OluapPlayer_ | draconis r ghey |
| 18:49.10 | Monet | Reminds me of the whole premise of Allo Allo. |
| 18:49.59 | dino82_ | Helga :P |
| 18:50.25 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: I kinda think of most draconis as being metrosexual in terms of behaviour |
| 18:50.29 | Imperios | Save for the military |
| 18:50.51 | Monet | In Allo Allo, different languages were portrayed though accents. So Translators would speak to British in cockney, then repeat what they said with a French accent so the French actors could understand |
| 18:52.18 | Monet | Draconis - Yeah is there really a stigma in our society when our females are foten just as inclined to smash your face in as men? |
| 18:53.16 | Imperios | Come to think about it they do not really have that much of sexual dimorphism |
| 18:53.45 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer_, the main point of using normal speech as Loron is to try and highlight their lack of Loronly-ness, most of the time |
| 18:54.06 | OluapPlayer_ | It's still bad to my eyes |
| 18:54.14 | Imperios | So maybe Draconis simply do not think of things as feminine or masculine most of the time |
| 18:54.19 | OluapPlayer_ | Like I said, the character may as well be a different race |
| 18:55.58 | Imperios | Shall I ever revisit him, I may have him use Loron speak when speaking to other Lorons |
| 18:56.02 | Monet | Imperios: Pretty much really. I'm not sure if I've ever shown a real masculine/femanine contrast among Draconis. |
| 18:56.34 | Imperios | Monet: Well they at least have different clothes for sexes but then again BOTH are very fancy |
| 18:56.42 | OluapPlayer_ | It's none of my concern |
| 18:56.45 | Monet | Alessa might be the only exception but recently she's done combat training but has never saw it as an 'unladylike' bad thing. |
| 18:57.49 | Imperios | What are you referring to, OP? |
| 18:59.47 | OluapPlayer_ | What you do with your fiction |
| 19:00.48 | OluapPlayer_ | You do whatever you want with it, I was just expression my view on the matter |
| 19:02.10 | Imperios | So apparently the only really patriarchal cultures in Andromeda are the Zazane and the Artharon |
| 19:03.13 | Imperios | Actually how many species in the Fictionverse/Fantasyverse have strongly defined gender roles |
| 19:03.44 | OluapPlayer_ | dats primitive shi |
| 19:04.49 | Imperios | Gender roles are a natural thing, they just blurred because of technology |
| 19:04.56 | Technobliterator | Loron technically are, if you count the Chikz as a female gender |
| 19:04.58 | Imperios | Besides the Fantasyverse IS primitive |
| 19:05.05 | OluapPlayer_ | My only race with gender roles in either universe are the Fantasy Gros |
| 19:05.12 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo have some traditional gender roles Imperios; Warfare, for example, is usually seen as a "man's job" but leadership roles and whatnot aren't often gender-specific |
| 19:05.37 | Monet | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/familyguy/images/3/34/Jamesbottomtooth3.png/revision/latest?cb=20101223201803 this gux XD |
| 19:05.43 | Monet | Whoops wrong channel |
| 19:06.10 | Xho | Monet: y u no minecraft lately |
| 19:06.19 | OluapPlayer_ | fuk ur blocky game |
| 19:06.28 | OluapPlayer_ | The Dracogonarious don't have gender roles, but what humans would consider a man's job is probably favored by females |
| 19:06.29 | Monet | Xho: Uni stuff. |
| 19:06.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Since they are physically better than males |
| 19:06.48 | DrodoEmpire | Many Drodo clans are led by a Matriarch, often with the support of a clan council |
| 19:07.15 | Monet | OluapPLayer: THat explains how Windey can keep such control ver Koluap. |
| 19:07.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Windey is a Spinker, not a Dracogonarious |
| 19:07.31 | Imperios | Dracogonarious femdom |
| 19:07.43 | OluapPlayer_ | No such thing, Dracogonarious are asexual |
| 19:07.49 | Monet | I'm doing three things at once so apologies |
| 19:08.27 | DrodoEmpire | Though some others may be led by an especially powerful male in the family, like with the house of Jivirik |
| 19:08.32 | OluapPlayer_ | The same is valid for the subspecies, so if you want the definite strongest, you're looking for a female Dracogodasimer |
| 19:08.43 | OluapPlayer_ | They're probably the strongest thing in the Collective after the Zazane and Horder |
| 19:08.56 | Imperios | That actually makes a lot of sense considerig that they are space crocodiles |
| 19:08.59 | Xho | Not sure about gender roles in my fiction |
| 19:09.08 | Xho | All of them appear to be gender equal |
| 19:09.21 | Xho | Trying to go patriarchy on the Kicath would be a bad juju moment |
| 19:09.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Santorakh - all are equal in the eyes of cheese |
| 19:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | I've given some thought to having some Drodo regiments recruit only from males. These'd be regiments like heavy infantry and heavy cavalry where the thought is that males may be better suited to the job |
| 19:10.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Apart from the Fantasy Gros, all my empires in either universe are either gender-equal or completely genderless |
| 19:10.44 | DrodoEmpire | Due to being stronger and taller on average, etc. |
| 19:11.54 | Imperios | Women in the military were generally not allowed because of how valuable a woman is for a society I think |
| 19:12.10 | DrodoEmpire | Well there were some practical concerns too |
| 19:12.12 | Imperios | I mean would you waste mothers when child mortality was high |
| 19:12.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Women are weaker than men |
| 19:12.15 | Imperios | Obviously |
| 19:12.20 | OluapPlayer_ | As in, biologically |
| 19:12.22 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:12.32 | Imperios | No I understand of course but there was also that |
| 19:12.35 | Imperios | From a societal viewpoint |
| 19:12.51 | DrodoEmpire | I recall there was a study by the US military that seemed to prove that mixed-gender regiments were less combat effective than all-male ones |
| 19:12.59 | DrodoEmpire | And possibly yeah |
| 19:13.10 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember reading a report of an US female soldier who used to serve at Iraq |
| 19:13.19 | OluapPlayer_ | She highlighted numbers of reasons why female soldiers are not a good idea |
| 19:13.34 | DrodoEmpire | Not frontline infantry, anyway |
| 19:13.41 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Hormone brigaaaaaade |
| 19:13.55 | OluapPlayer_ | One of them was that the male soldiers became worried in protecting her, potentially putting themselves in danger |
| 19:13.56 | DrodoEmpire | logistics, reserves, artillery, or as officers I don't see a problem. :p |
| 19:14.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ohh, I see |
| 19:14.16 | DrodoEmpire | So it threw off discipline and group cohesion? |
| 19:14.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 19:14.24 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 19:14.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that'd be a big one then |
| 19:14.51 | Imperios | That is pretty much what happens when a person of one gender is introduced to a group where most people are from the opposite gender |
| 19:15.13 | Imperios | You'll be treated as special but at the same time you won't be considered to be bro |
| 19:15.20 | Imperios | Coming from my own experience |
| 19:15.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Another matter is that, let's say frontline soldiers don't get bathroom breaks |
| 19:15.47 | Imperios | >frontline soldiers don't get bathroom breaks |
| 19:15.52 | Imperios | What is this about bathing girls |
| 19:16.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Who said anything about bathing |
| 19:16.10 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm talking about urinating and pooping |
| 19:16.11 | DrodoEmpire | I don't imagine things'd get better if the male-to female ratio increased. :p *possibly* the discipline issues may cease but you'd still be left with the biological fact that women aren't as strong as men with the same amount of training and exercise |
| 19:16.36 | Imperios | Oh that |
| 19:16.39 | Imperios | WEll yeah |
| 19:16.46 | OluapPlayer_ | If you gotta do it then you do it in front of your companions. With a woman involved, it becomes super awkward |
| 19:16.53 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I meant the "protecting the girl" thing |
| 19:16.57 | DrodoEmpire | Which effects their stamina on the battlefield, accuracy, the ability to extract wounded, etc. |
| 19:17.13 | DrodoEmpire | Right I know, I'm just saying that besides that there are other issues |
| 19:17.23 | Imperios | Discipline suffers greatly |
| 19:17.27 | Technobliterator | of course, it's not like feminazi groups are really interested in any of those reasons |
| 19:17.34 | Imperios | #DieCisScum |
| 19:17.37 | Technobliterator | they just go "baaaaah patriarchy" |
| 19:17.42 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:17.43 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 19:17.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Population cull when |
| 19:17.49 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Then again |
| 19:17.53 | Technobliterator | despite the fact they never have to worry about being drafted for war |
| 19:18.03 | Imperios | Feminist zerg rush at ISIS when |
| 19:18.14 | OluapPlayer_ | That would be a battle worth watching |
| 19:18.14 | Technobliterator | Hah |
| 19:18.15 | Imperios | Imagine this |
| 19:18.19 | Monet | Feminazis just want attention. |
| 19:18.29 | Imperios | Whatever side loses, the rest of the world wins |
| 19:18.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Hordes of rainbow-hair dykes rushing at armed terrorists |
| 19:18.56 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Most of which are aged 18-24 |
| 19:19.09 | Imperios | IS - THIS IS NOT THE 72 VIRGINS WE WERE PROMISED |
| 19:19.14 | Monet | Or is it more like 17? |
| 19:19.17 | OluapPlayer_ | lel |
| 19:19.43 | Technobliterator | sic the otherkin on them as well while we're at it |
| 19:19.49 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 19:19.51 | Imperios | Otherkin would work as cavalry |
| 19:19.55 | OluapPlayer_ | ohgod |
| 19:19.56 | Imperios | Ridden by feminist |
| 19:19.58 | Imperios | feminists |
| 19:20.05 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 19:20.23 | Monet | Horsekin - Finally society accepts me for who I am! |
| 19:20.31 | Imperios | After these are done, we throw MRAs and Neo-Nazis into the fray |
| 19:20.34 | Technobliterator | I never got why otherkin was a thing people encouraged and supported now, surely that's just a form of clinical insanity ._. |
| 19:20.35 | OluapPlayer_ | I IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A BULLET PROOF VEST *gets shot down* |
| 19:20.39 | Imperios | As well as the entire population of /pol/ |
| 19:20.54 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 19:20.54 | Monet | Now I just got reminded of that Witcher III trailer that shows am an that stops charging horse by slicing it's head off as it is in mid-gallop. |
| 19:21.08 | Xho | Tumblr went very far downhill |
| 19:21.14 | OluapPlayer_ | I've watched that, it's the game's opening |
| 19:21.17 | OluapPlayer_ | Cool opening |
| 19:21.32 | Imperios | MRA soldiers, protected with armoured fedoras |
| 19:21.41 | Technobliterator | there are probably some ok tumblr blogs |
| 19:21.41 | Monet | I forget who did that move. |
| 19:21.50 | OluapPlayer_ | There are |
| 19:21.52 | Technobliterator | but it became known for its absurd SJW ones |
| 19:22.00 | OluapPlayer_ | But they're nearly invisible in the sea of shit that is Tumblr |
| 19:22.15 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Pretty unlikely but it could happen. I recall the Aztec warriors being known to behead horses |
| 19:22.17 | Technobliterator | and for trying to defend otherkin and obesity as things that should be acceptable |
| 19:22.21 | DrodoEmpire | While in a fight |
| 19:22.24 | Technobliterator | neither of which are healthy |
| 19:22.43 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: I think the executioner was a Witcher. |
| 19:22.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I really dislike the whole "fat acceptance" thing. It... Never, ever made sense to me. :p |
| 19:22.56 | OluapPlayer_ | I think it was just a random Nilfgaardian |
| 19:22.56 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Wait how would they behead them if they had no bladed weaponry |
| 19:23.15 | DrodoEmpire | Their weapons were still made of extremely sharp obsidian blades. :p |
| 19:23.21 | OluapPlayer_ | But a Witcher could definitely behead a horse mid-gallop |
| 19:23.24 | Imperios | Baldes attached to sticks |
| 19:23.26 | OluapPlayer_ | And probably behead the rider too |
| 19:23.27 | DrodoEmpire | Macuahuitl swords I believe they were called |
| 19:23.31 | Imperios | How can you behead someone with a stick |
| 19:23.36 | Imperios | Even if it was covered in blades |
| 19:23.36 | DrodoEmpire | One minute... |
| 19:23.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Hit them really hard |
| 19:23.45 | Imperios | I know how they look |
| 19:23.45 | DrodoEmpire | Because they're extremely sharp and heavy...? |
| 19:23.51 | Imperios | ...True that |
| 19:23.53 | Technobliterator | I never played the Witcher. I'm sure it's a great game, but it's not for me |
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| 19:24.03 | OluapPlayer_ | You don't know if you never played it |
| 19:24.13 | Imperios | So the entire wooden base would go through aws well |
| 19:24.18 | DrodoEmpire | They're like an enormous saw |
| 19:24.18 | OluapPlayer_ | I thought Metal Gear Solid was not for me, yet I got into it |
| 19:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 19:24.24 | Monet_2 | I checked the trailer |
| 19:24.40 | Monet_2 | Dude's big but he doesn't look like an elf or a Witcher. |
| 19:24.54 | OluapPlayer_ | It's just a normal soldier |
| 19:25.07 | Imperios | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9v-p8lCYAANCfR.jpg That I think would be easier to smack people with rather than to cut |
| 19:25.17 | Imperios | Like smack and leave heavy wounds because of the small blades |
| 19:25.27 | Imperios | Actually wiat |
| 19:25.27 | Technobliterator | I played similar games before |
| 19:25.32 | Imperios | I just realised |
| 19:25.34 | Monet_2 | Normal soldier but I guess it shows how deadly Nilfgaardian weaponry is |
| 19:25.38 | Imperios | It is basically a chainsword |
| 19:25.42 | Imperios | THat does not move |
| 19:25.47 | OluapPlayer_ | They're the biggest empire after all |
| 19:25.50 | DrodoEmpire | Exactly what I'm saying... >.< |
| 19:25.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Their army is the ebst |
| 19:25.55 | DrodoEmpire | Its a saw, basically |
| 19:25.56 | OluapPlayer_ | best |
| 19:26.05 | DrodoEmpire | And I think the reason they're flat on one end is to incapacitate enemies with a smack |
| 19:26.06 | Technobliterator | I'm fairly confident it's not a game I'd enjoy for long enough to be worth it |
| 19:26.06 | Monet_2 | The biggest empire, ruled by elves. |
| 19:26.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Eh |
| 19:26.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Nilfgaardian is ruled by humans, not elves |
| 19:26.38 | DrodoEmpire | Its unwieldy, but its was used by the mesoamericans for centuries so it *must* work |
| 19:26.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Nilfgaard even |
| 19:26.45 | DrodoEmpire | *it was |
| 19:27.29 | OluapPlayer_ | They're extremely xenophobic against non-Nilfgaardians, which would include non-humans |
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| 19:28.18 | Monet_2 | Emhyr ver Emreis is an elf. |
| 19:28.36 | Jepardi | He is human through and through |
| 19:28.56 | OluapPlayer_ | You meet him in game, he's 100% human |
| 19:29.00 | Jepardi | Nilfgaardians do speak elvish as their language though |
| 19:29.21 | Jepardi | Atleast some variation of it |
| 19:29.26 | Monet_2 | Yeah that's probably the thing that got me. |
| 19:29.55 | Monet_2 | Nilfgaardians speak the Elder Speech, the tongue of Elves and dryads |
| 19:31.01 | Imperios | Silly Polish fantasy thing |
| 19:31.07 | Jepardi | And on their xenophobic nature, that's more like they are racist towards other humans (Northerners and Skelligers) |
| 19:31.11 | Monet_2 | "A significant amount of elven blood runs in the veins of the people, while their language is a variant of the Elder Language." this might explain things |
| 19:31.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Poland can into videogames |
| 19:31.44 | Monet_2 | Nilfgaardians are racist because a lot of them have elf blood. |
| 19:31.51 | OluapPlayer_ | I still need to play the third game, but it's so expensive |
| 19:31.57 | OluapPlayer_ | And I don't want to pirate it |
| 19:32.01 | OluapPlayer_ | cause the devs are cool people |
| 19:33.52 | Monet_2 | I always percieved the Empire as something the Northern Kingdoms dreaded: A realm where the non-humans were in charge |
| 19:34.28 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://cs540103.vk.me/v540103041/3b1ca/HlJmzNvJR0s.jpg Shiny |
| 19:34.44 | Monet_2 | And I do believe in Witcher 2 they backed the Scoia'tael |
| 19:35.08 | Jepardi | The fear of the Empire comes mostly from stories of cruelty that are told by soldiers and kings |
| 19:35.20 | Imperios | Witchers seems like my kind of thing but I am not really attracted by the genre itself |
| 19:35.31 | Imperios | I could read the book though |
| 19:37.01 | Monet_2 | Then again when the Second Northern War ended Nilfgaard sold out the Squirrels. |
| 19:38.08 | Monet_2 | One of the third-years on my course was Polish and adored the Witcher series. |
| 19:39.19 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: huehue moon |
| 19:40.54 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: I'd say Witcher isn't a series where running in screaming does very well. |
| 19:41.15 | Technobliterator | I don't play games where you run in screaming |
| 19:41.49 | Monet_2 | Like MSG, Geralt has to prepare for his missions. In his case, drinking poions, making traps and finding a strategy to defeat the mosnters you've been called to slay. |
| 19:41.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Geralt doesn't resist damage any better than a normal man |
| 19:42.50 | Monet_2 | Where Witchers differ is they are stronger, faster and tire less, they're also mroe durable to poisons. |
| 19:43.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Then again the combat is easily the weakest part of the series |
| 19:43.32 | Monet_2 | I remember one line in 2's prologue that the standard health potion Geralt chugs could potentially kill a normal human. |
| 19:43.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Witcher 1 has got to have the worst combat in a videogame I've played in the last 5 years |
| 19:44.59 | Monet_2 | Combat is a challenge, and sometiems painful I admit |
| 19:45.33 | Monet_2 | It might be that clunkiness aside, Witcher might play too closely ot real-life sword fighting. |
| 19:45.39 | Jepardi | It got a whole lot better as the series went ahead |
| 19:45.51 | Jepardi | Combat, I mean |
| 19:45.52 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: About fat acceptance, the problem is valid but they take it too far |
| 19:45.59 | OluapPlayer_ | It did but it's still weak |
| 19:46.11 | Imperios | Keep in mind that our modern standards of beauty are even more unhealthy |
| 19:46.12 | OluapPlayer_ | It's not a challenge, it's just boring "click at it until it dies" |
| 19:46.27 | OluapPlayer_ | I've played 1 and 2 to the end, I know how they are |
| 19:46.47 | Jepardi | At least it isn't Skyrim's paddle smacking |
| 19:46.51 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Maybe you're right |
| 19:46.53 | OluapPlayer_ | True |
| 19:46.55 | Monet_2 | OluapPLayer: You're supposed to mix up your attacks with dodges and wards. |
| 19:47.02 | OluapPlayer_ | You don't need to |
| 19:47.09 | OluapPlayer_ | You can brute force your way through virtually all fights |
| 19:47.16 | Monet_2 | But it helps a lot. |
| 19:47.28 | Technobliterator | this sounds more like something I wouldn't really enjoy, in all honesty |
| 19:47.30 | Imperios | Also screaming "landwhale" at people is also somewhat impolite |
| 19:47.32 | OluapPlayer_ | At least Witcher enemies react to being damaged, unlike in Skyrim |
| 19:47.47 | Technobliterator | I did not like Skyrim at all |
| 19:47.49 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Obviously. Do you *think* I or most people do that |
| 19:47.51 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 19:48.05 | Technobliterator | I appreciated it, I didn't enjoy it, in the slightest |
| 19:48.06 | Jepardi | In Wild Hunt brute forcing doesn't exactly work anymore |
| 19:48.14 | Jepardi | Atleast for some monsters |
| 19:48.30 | Monet_2 | That's good. |
| 19:48.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Jepardi: Speaking of all this, since you clearly know the series, I'd say the Wild Hunt would be a fitting thing for Harstag in Koldenwelt |
| 19:48.52 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: The word is used very liberally by MRAs and the like |
| 19:48.55 | Imperios | Which I find stupid |
| 19:49.08 | DrodoEmpire | Well I'm not a bloody MRA. :p |
| 19:49.24 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not a feminist, but I'm not on the opposite extreme |
| 19:49.24 | Technobliterator | I found Skyrim bland, its missions and story uninteresting and repetitive, and its combat and items systems really dull |
| 19:49.35 | OluapPlayer_ | That's because Skyrim is all of that |
| 19:49.35 | Monet_2 | Weren't MRAs originally a satire? |
| 19:49.37 | Jepardi | Well I have based a few Wanes already on monsters from Witcher (Leshen and Fiends) |
| 19:49.44 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty sure they still are Monet |
| 19:49.45 | Technobliterator | I didn't enjoy Fallout for much the same reason, so I just think I'm not a Bethesda fan |
| 19:49.50 | Imperios | Monet_2: Well there are guys like Sargon who take it seriously |
| 19:49.55 | OluapPlayer_ | I see |
| 19:50.00 | Technobliterator | but I'm sure they're a great dev |
| 19:50.01 | DrodoEmpire | At least "Meninism" is |
| 19:50.04 | OluapPlayer_ | Still the concept of the Wild Hunt fits Harstag |
| 19:50.10 | Monet_2 | Imperios: Then they didn't get the point |
| 19:50.10 | OluapPlayer_ | They exist in real world mythology after all |
| 19:50.29 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: I'm not gonna say everything MRAs say is invalid but no I'm not among them |
| 19:50.37 | Technobliterator | I hear New Vegas is not by Bethesda, which might be why people love it more |
| 19:50.41 | Imperios | I am speaking of the misogynistic folks on the Internet who bash whatever portrays women positively |
| 19:50.51 | OluapPlayer_ | It isn't. It's made by a successor of the makers of Fallout 1 and 2 |
| 19:50.52 | Jepardi | Yeah I thought that he would lead something similar when he visits Koldenwelt on his hunts |
| 19:51.01 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I mean the guys who says TFA is feminist because there's a stormtrooper girl |
| 19:51.13 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah they're idiots |
| 19:51.35 | OluapPlayer_ | I nearly made a Wild Hunt for Mortium but then I reckoned, Wild Hunt = God of hunting |
| 19:51.50 | DrodoEmpire | Assuming they aren't simply being satirical |
| 19:51.57 | Imperios | They aren't |
| 19:52.04 | Imperios | Trust me, there are lots of these guys |
| 19:52.16 | Monet_2 | One of the codifying things about satire is it's constructed to go over the heads of some people. |
| 19:52.26 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, back to the point of fat acceptance |
| 19:52.34 | OluapPlayer_ | It isn't |
| 19:52.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Start jogging, fatty |
| 19:52.52 | Imperios | Or that Mad Max: Fury Road is bad because it is feminist because it shows women being mistreated as bad |
| 19:53.12 | Imperios | I mean it IS feminist but how is portraying sex slavery a wrong thing |
| 19:53.20 | Imperios | *as bad a wrong thing |
| 19:53.58 | Monet_2 | Chauvanism. |
| 19:54.00 | DrodoEmpire | I get *why* obesity happens; Poor people and the like in developed countries can often only afford a poor diet which causes them to be obese. That's really unfortunate, but I think normalizing a serious health condition is also wrong |
| 19:54.15 | Imperios | Of course but you don't speak about that in public |
| 19:54.32 | OluapPlayer_ | The problem are the fats who are fat on purpose and are proud of being fat |
| 19:54.32 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry? |
| 19:54.56 | Imperios | I just happen to have a friend who is quite, erm, heavy and calling her a fattie in public would be, ahem, embarassing |
| 19:55.09 | OluapPlayer_ | Well no, you don't do that anywhere in the world |
| 19:55.20 | DrodoEmpire | Well duh. I'm not disagreeing Imperios. :p |
| 19:55.20 | Monet_2 | Imperios: That's the thing about the internet: Anonymity + cyberspace's 'unreal' nature makes people forget what they saay is going public public. |
| 19:55.27 | Imperios | I try to nudge her subtly into the right direction though |
| 19:55.41 | Imperios | But overall I am more conerned about my own weight |
| 19:55.53 | Monet_2 | Or it might be that some peopel jsut don't understand courtesy or social graces. |
| 19:55.57 | OluapPlayer_ | You only call someone fat over here if you're in a group of male friends and the fat guy jokes about it himself |
| 19:56.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Calling a girl fat is a no-no |
| 19:56.08 | Imperios | Obviously |
| 19:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | Ah shit, need to reboot my computer |
| 19:56.31 | Imperios | Hm |
| 19:58.40 | Imperios | I actually once made a joke about Alyona losing weight |
| 19:58.50 | Imperios | She literally responded by saying "baka~" |
| 19:58.58 | OluapPlayer_ | fukin weeaboo |
| 19:59.20 | Imperios | She used to be a weeaboo, now she's more into comics I think |
| 19:59.20 | dino82_ | bye all! |
| 19:59.23 | Monet_2 | Reminds me of a joke one of my friends posted on Facebook |
| 19:59.35 | Technobliterator | wow, even I'm not like that ._. |
| 19:59.40 | Imperios | She loves Deadpool |
| 19:59.55 | Imperios | Technobliterator: You're not like her |
| 19:59.55 | OluapPlayer_ | ech |
| 19:59.57 | Monet_2 | "Whenever your boyfriend hints that he'd like you to lose weight, you can drop 150lb immediately by dropping his ass and leaving him" |
| 20:00.03 | OluapPlayer_ | remove her from the premises |
| 20:00.14 | Imperios | You are, overall, not that much of a geek |
| 20:00.19 | Imperios | She has a very geeky mindset |
| 20:00.30 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: You do not like Deadpool? |
| 20:00.34 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't |
| 20:00.42 | Imperios | Well dunno |
| 20:00.45 | OluapPlayer_ | He's the most annoying comic character I've ever seen |
| 20:00.47 | Technobliterator | what's wrong with Deadpool? |
| 20:00.52 | Imperios | I do not have a strong like or dislike towards him, |
| 20:00.52 | Monet_2 | I can understand if peopel see him as overrated. |
| 20:00.56 | Imperios | But he's kinda funny |
| 20:00.59 | Technobliterator | He's supposed to be basically a joke |
| 20:01.02 | Imperios | Not super-funny but funny-ish |
| 20:01.08 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't find him funny |
| 20:01.12 | OluapPlayer_ | I just find him annoying |
| 20:01.25 | Technobliterator | Deadpool is the only comic character you shouldn't take seriously |
| 20:01.36 | Imperios | I am not really into comics in general so I do not have strong opinions towards any comic character |
| 20:01.44 | Technobliterator | I don't really care for him either way |
| 20:01.52 | Imperios | Save for some Batman franchise characters |
| 20:01.59 | Monet_2 | The guy acts like the fourth wall doesn't exist. Hell he even makes jokes that he can see text boxes. |
| 20:02.11 | Imperios | But even then it is mostly from the adaptations, I never actually read Batman comics |
| 20:02.12 | Imperios | Even as a kid |
| 20:02.22 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm not a fan of that kind of humour |
| 20:02.41 | Monet_2 | Right that explains things. |
| 20:03.06 | OluapPlayer_ | I was never too much into comics but one character I remember liking was Carnage from Spider-Man |
| 20:03.13 | Monet_2 | If you don't find breaking the fourth wall funny then yeah, dDeadpool isn't that funny. |
| 20:03.15 | OluapPlayer_ | I first saw him and was like "man this is cool" |
| 20:03.42 | Technobliterator | I never liked comics, just movies based on comics |
| 20:04.14 | Imperios | My favourite characters were, I think, Hulk and Iron Man |
| 20:04.28 | Technobliterator | Thor is the best |
| 20:04.32 | Monet_2 | I grew up with Iron Man and Spider-Man. |
| 20:04.43 | Imperios | Technobliterator: None can resist the abs |
| 20:04.59 | Technobliterator | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.10 | Technobliterator | the others are just freaks |
| 20:05.17 | Imperios | I liked Spider-Man as a franchise but I thought the character was overrated |
| 20:05.17 | OluapPlayer_ | I also grew a liking for Aquaman after he became OUTRAGEOUS, but that's the internet's fault |
| 20:05.24 | Monet_2 | Of manliness. |
| 20:05.49 | Imperios | Like he was not actually that strong, smart or cunning, he was just a teenage guy who can climb walls |
| 20:05.56 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: So I guess you don't like the X-men |
| 20:06.05 | Imperios | So he didn't impress me like, say, Iron Man did |
| 20:06.10 | Technobliterator | not really |
| 20:06.13 | Imperios | Also Mandarin was cool |
| 20:06.26 | Technobliterator | I quite like Iron Man |
| 20:06.41 | OluapPlayer_ | I've never read or seen Iron Man |
| 20:06.46 | Imperios | I am ambivalent towards the Movie Iron Man |
| 20:06.48 | OluapPlayer_ | When his movie came out I was like "who dis" |
| 20:07.16 | Monet_2 | I think the TV shows tried to play down his alcoholism |
| 20:07.23 | Monet_2 | Bcause don't drink kiddies |
| 20:07.36 | Imperios | He is not that much of an intellectual in the movies, so for me he was not that relateable |
| 20:08.11 | Imperios | Hulk I liked because he was 1) strong 2) smart when Banner 3) pitiable |
| 20:08.22 | Imperios | It was easy to feel sympathetic towards him |
| 20:08.23 | Monet_2 | It can be difficult to combine "intelligent" and "party animal" |
| 20:09.15 | Monet_2 | Tony Stark is quite brilliant, he just mixes it with bouts of irrational behaviour, impulsiveness and showmanship. |
| 20:09.52 | Monet_2 | Watching Iron Man 3 again I realised...when people called out he was a moron for giving Mandarin his address...yeah, so did Tony. |
| 20:10.36 | Monet_2 | Tony *was* rather shaken up by Happy ending up in intensive care. |
| 20:10.39 | Imperios | Why did they make him Central Asian though |
| 20:10.43 | Imperios | Why is Mandarin not Chinese |
| 20:10.54 | Monet_2 | Because War on Terror. |
| 20:11.15 | Monet_2 | The Ten RIngs had already been established in Iron Man I to be a Central Asian radical group. |
| 20:11.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Technobliterator: Any chance we can rp now? |
| 20:11.55 | Imperios | They could at least make him Dungan |
| 20:12.11 | Monet_2 | Besides, the Mandarin in III wasn't the actual Mandarin. |
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| 20:12.29 | Imperios | There are Chinese people in Central Asia |
| 20:12.33 | Imperios | Mandarin could be Dungan |
| 20:12.39 | Imperios | He could easily be Chinese hur |
| 20:12.50 | Imperios | Then again, maybe you're right |
| 20:13.29 | Imperios | Muslim people kinda fill the same role in modern European worldview as Asian people did in the 20th century |
| 20:13.40 | Monet_2 | Mandasrin in III was some British stage actor they hired to play Mandari nin exchange for boobs, boats and weed |
| 20:13.57 | Monet_2 | I think there were rumours at some point that there is going to be a sequel where the real Mandari nshows up really angry. |
| 20:14.03 | Imperios | The real Mandarin there was European wasn't he? |
| 20:14.29 | Monet_2 | He was English, yeah. |
| 20:15.02 | Monet_2 | Started off doing Englsih stage plays, moved to the States, got hooked on weed and was then hired by Killian. |
| 20:15.43 | Imperios | That's even dumber |
| 20:16.20 | Imperios | I understand it was probably meant to be for PC reasons but one could make an evil Chinese guy without making him a stereotype |
| 20:16.45 | Monet_2 | Well if it helps the actor, Ben Kingsley, is Anglo-Indian. |
| 20:17.05 | Xho | ADFSGASFHAKJGH |
| 20:17.10 | OluapPlayer_ | u |
| 20:17.35 | Imperios | What was that |
| 20:17.43 | Imperios | Did Xho just proclaim himself a teacher |
| 20:17.50 | Imperios | *consider |
| 20:18.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho is just doing his usual Xhoisms |
| 20:18.17 | Monet_2 | Maybe it was a bit of a joke at Hollywood. |
| 20:18.27 | Xho | You mentioned Anglo-Indian |
| 20:18.30 | Xho | Therefore I was summoned |
| 20:18.43 | Tek0516 | Monet_2: I think the post-credits has an offscreen Mandarin confront the fake one |
| 20:18.51 | OluapPlayer_ | More like you had a stroke hur |
| 20:18.52 | Monet_2 | Killian - This guy is good. Looks asian but not chinese...ehhh close enough |
| 20:19.17 | Xho | potayto potahto |
| 20:19.33 | OluapPlayer_ | ur a potato |
| 20:19.37 | Imperios | No, the idea of an ALLAHU AKBAR Mandarin is cool |
| 20:19.43 | Monet_2 | Tek0516: If Marvel stinger tradition is upheld, that means we might be getting the real Mandarin in Iron Man 4. |
| 20:20.14 | Monet_2 | Imperios: It was all a giant conspiracy really. |
| 20:21.05 | Monet_2 | The VP had a daughter who had a missing shin, and in the film Extremis research wasn't granted. So Killian conspired with the VP to kill the prez. |
| 20:21.12 | Tek0516 | They can get away with it since he's even just an actor in-universe |
| 20:22.04 | Monet_2 | The VP would become Prez and pass legislation to allow AIM to research Extremis so long as they heal his daughter's leg. |
| 20:23.11 | Jepardi | The real Mandarin was hinted at in the oneshot All Hail the King, where a member of Ten Rings captures Kingsley from jail and takes him to the real one |
| 20:23.35 | Tek0516 | I think the motive rant involved suggested fake terrorist to fund war on terror for I forget why. |
| 20:23.58 | Imperios | Now how the actual Mandarin will look like is another thing |
| 20:24.04 | Tek0516 | Jepardi: Right, that's it |
| 20:24.05 | Imperios | Hopefully he won't be green like in the cartoons |
| 20:24.30 | Imperios | http://animatedcartoons.co/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/The-Mandarin-From-Iron-Man.jpg I IS ELF |
| 20:24.48 | Imperios | Or orc |
| 20:24.49 | Imperios | Orlf |
| 20:25.19 | OluapPlayer_ | Handsome orc |
| 20:25.24 | Jepardi | My theory is that he will be the main villain of Doctor Strange played by Mads Mikkelsen, but that's a long shot |
| 20:25.24 | Monet_2 | Tek0516: The fake terror plot allowd AIM and the VP to push the President soewhere they could get rid of him. |
| 20:25.32 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer_, I'm kinda working atm :/ I'll be done in about 10 minutes? |
| 20:25.34 | Monet_2 | It also would have given AIM a reason to develop Extremis. |
| 20:25.38 | OluapPlayer_ | rite |
| 20:26.26 | Monet_2 | Imperios: Yeah the longstanding problem with the Mandarin is he's cringeworthingly racist. |
| 20:26.46 | Imperios | He was based on Fu Manchu wasn't he? |
| 20:26.51 | Tek0516 | Probably |
| 20:27.26 | Imperios | He could be like Valentine from Kingsman |
| 20:27.35 | Imperios | Stereotype-defying |
| 20:28.35 | Imperios | Or Khalisah bint Sina al-Jilani from Mass Effect |
| 20:28.43 | Imperios | Basically antagonistic but not in a sterotypical way |
| 20:28.49 | Imperios | Do people remember Khalisa? |
| 20:28.52 | Monet_2 | Marvel fortunately got a bit better at his design more recently |
| 20:29.15 | Monet_2 | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111229200254/marveldatabase/images/4/45/Mandarin_(Earth-616)_from_Invincible_Iron_Man_Vol_1_511_cover.jpg since he looks like this now |
| 20:29.34 | Tek0516 | The films have done a decent job at purging the worst of the cringe and terribleness from its heroes. |
| 20:29.39 | Imperios | He does not look Chinese at all hur |
| 20:31.18 | Monet_2 | http://www.deathsdoorprods.com/wp-content/uploads/invim2008520cov-e1338417275279.jpg what about this one |
| 20:31.27 | Monet_2 | Yeah he's mostly ditched the billowing green robes. |
| 20:32.43 | Technobliterator | I'm free now |
| 20:34.18 | OluapPlayer_ | yey |
| 20:34.27 | OluapPlayer_ | loron stoof nao |
| 20:34.34 | Technobliterator | only briefly though |
| 20:34.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh |
| 20:34.55 | OluapPlayer_ | In that case nevermind I guess |
| 20:35.02 | Technobliterator | By briefly, I mean, like an hour |
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| 20:36.46 | Imperios | Monet: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091108211754/iron-man-armored-adventures/images/8/84/818015-mandarin_super.jpg That Mandarin looks best hur |
| 20:37.02 | Imperios | Other than the heretical bushido helmet |
| 20:37.34 | Monet | Mandarin - I am... JADE MAN! |
| 20:43.31 | Imperios | But yes get rid of the bucket helmet and here best Mandarin evere |
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| 20:48.02 | Imperios | Hi hichi |
| 20:48.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Hachi |
| 20:48.21 | Hachiman | Hi Hachi |
| 20:48.28 | Imperios | Hachi, meet Hachi |
| 20:48.31 | Imperios | Hachi, meet Hachi |
| 20:49.15 | OluapPlayer_ | FUCK OFF RABBIT |
| 20:49.38 | Hachiman | Go fuck yourself, Arisen |
| 20:49.50 | Xho | EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 20:50.34 | OluapPlayer_ | i'll let u kno dat WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS |
| 20:51.13 | Hachiman | kek |
| 20:52.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Man I can't wait for DD's release |
| 20:52.41 | OluapPlayer_ | It looks like my perfect game |
| 20:53.18 | Hachiman | It is a pretty good game |
| 20:53.44 | Hachiman | I have not played much but from what I have played, it is very open and diverse |
| 20:55.57 | Hachiman | Imperios: So despite Russia and Ireland being so heavily affiliated with the potato, it was actually the Incas of the Incan Empire who first cultivated them |
| 20:56.35 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/t31.0-8/12496482_10207175919855278_8277695700415771938_o.jpg |
| 20:56.50 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 20:57.01 | Hachiman | olol |
| 20:57.07 | Imperios | Hachiman: Well who else would cultivate the potato |
| 20:57.18 | Xho | THE IRISH LOL |
| 20:57.32 | Imperios | Who else would discover the crop from South America other than the most advanced South American civilisation |
| 20:57.36 | Monet | It came from Central America |
| 20:57.48 | Monet | Yeah SOuth |
| 20:58.49 | Monet | For a SOuth American tuber, it grows really well in colder climates. |
| 20:59.14 | Imperios | Central America is corn |
| 20:59.19 | DrodoEmpire | Well think of how mountainous the andes are |
| 20:59.22 | Imperios | NA has corn |
| 20:59.22 | DrodoEmpire | And how cold it can be |
| 20:59.27 | Imperios | SA has potato |
| 20:59.33 | DrodoEmpire | That was the heartland of the Inca empie |
| 20:59.35 | DrodoEmpire | *empire |
| 20:59.36 | Imperios | Europe and the Middle East, grain |
| 20:59.47 | Imperios | Africa |
| 20:59.49 | Imperios | Hmmm |
| 20:59.56 | Imperios | What did Africans have again |
| 21:00.00 | DrodoEmpire | Africa had a few |
| 21:00.13 | DrodoEmpire | Sorghum was one I think |
| 21:00.23 | Imperios | Yam too I think |
| 21:00.29 | DrodoEmpire | Think so yeah |
| 21:00.37 | DrodoEmpire | A lot of Africans were also herding |
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| 21:01.23 | Imperios | The cattle was imported from the Middle East though |
| 21:01.36 | Imperios | Yeah being African sucks |
| 21:01.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ah true |
| 21:02.31 | DrodoEmpire | Africa had a few great civilizations, though yes geography and local fauna did not favor the growth of large civilizations |
| 21:03.16 | Hachiman | Egypt was fortunate because of the Nile; that and they had Nubians to bully |
| 21:03.29 | Imperios | Egypt - NOOOBS |
| 21:03.37 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty much |
| 21:03.44 | DrodoEmpire | That's why they had a big civilization |
| 21:04.52 | Hachiman | Also, the name of Pachacuti, the ninth Sapa Inca of Cusco and the first Sapa Inca of the Incan Empire, meant "He Who Overturns Space and Time" which I feel is somewhat appropriate given that he unified over 100 different ethnic groups into a single empire |
| 21:05.06 | Xho | Egyptians still had massive famine problems tho |
| 21:05.10 | Xho | old kingdom got wasted |
| 21:05.21 | DrodoEmpire | Not usually |
| 21:05.34 | Imperios | Incans were pretty much the most powerful empire in America |
| 21:05.35 | DrodoEmpire | When they actually had famines it was due to *huge* climate changes |
| 21:05.55 | Imperios | Aztecs, for all their power, were just a tiny alliance of city states |
| 21:05.55 | Hachiman | And I had thought the Aztecs were America's greatest empire |
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| 21:06.34 | Imperios | Aztecs probably had cooler architecture and the like but consider how small their country actually was |
| 21:06.41 | Hachiman | True |
| 21:06.43 | DrodoEmpire | Aztecs were pretty powerful actually, but ultimately I don't think they had the same sort of centralization and sheer power of the Incans |
| 21:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: I think you' |
| 21:06.53 | Imperios | Compare Mexico to Peru |
| 21:07.14 | DrodoEmpire | *you're exaggerating. Countries are more than square miles after all |
| 21:07.27 | DrodoEmpire | Aztecs had a really powerful and efficient army, and were pretty rich |
| 21:07.29 | DrodoEmpire | But again |
| 21:07.39 | Imperios | True but, as you said, the Aztec Alliance was much less centralised |
| 21:07.47 | DrodoEmpire | Incans were powerful themselves because of centralization |
| 21:07.48 | Hachiman | I imagine that if the Aztecs and Incans ever had the opportunity to interact with one another, Aztecs would have maybe got conquered hur |
| 21:07.48 | DrodoEmpire | Exactly |
| 21:07.50 | Imperios | Though they were more militant so if they fought the Aztecs could win |
| 21:08.13 | Imperios | Incans had one big advantage |
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| 21:08.19 | Imperios | They had fucking llamas |
| 21:08.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Charles |
| 21:08.22 | Charles_Murray_ | Hey |
| 21:09.02 | Imperios | As opposed to Aztecs who did not have any domesticated animals at all |
| 21:09.12 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah |
| 21:09.21 | Hachiman | Huh, I would have thought the Aztecs would have some form of domestic animal |
| 21:09.25 | Imperios | Well they had dogs |
| 21:09.33 | Imperios | But I mean nothing that could be used to carry things |
| 21:09.56 | DrodoEmpire | But you can't ride a Llama into battle, so it isn't useful for warfare. Its *moderately* useful for carrying things but its no ox or mule |
| 21:10.02 | Imperios | I mean can you imagine a chihuahua carrying things |
| 21:10.06 | DrodoEmpire | So for logistics I guess |
| 21:10.16 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: So worse than what the Old World had |
| 21:10.16 | Hachiman | Who says you cannot breed war-llamas |
| 21:10.18 | Imperios | But still something |
| 21:10.27 | Imperios | Llamas are tiny |
| 21:10.34 | Hachiman | So were Mongolian horses |
| 21:11.25 | Imperios | Mongolian horses were basically ponies |
| 21:11.29 | Imperios | But a pony is still bigger than a llama |
| 21:11.31 | Imperios | You can ride a pony |
| 21:11.32 | Imperios | In theory |
| 21:11.40 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/t31.0-8/12491744_10153335500079013_3426167489325740849_o.jpg Tosin looking like a Tekken boss |
| 21:11.53 | Hachiman | kek |
| 21:12.03 | Imperios | Still find it hilarious that the biggest empire in the world was founded by people riding ponies |
| 21:12.15 | Imperios | What if Lauren Faust is descended from Genghis Khan |
| 21:12.18 | Xho | THE BRITISH DID NOT RIDE PONIES |
| 21:12.22 | Xho | GOD SAVE THE QUEEN |
| 21:12.40 | Imperios | Alright second largest |
| 21:13.01 | Hachiman | But the Mongol Empire *was* the largest empire in the world |
| 21:13.12 | Imperios | Wasn't the British Empire larger |
| 21:13.51 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6d/The_British_Empire_Anachronous.png/1920px-The_British_Empire_Anachronous.png Though looking here that is including the fucking Antarctic |
| 21:13.54 | Imperios | So yeah Mongols |
| 21:13.55 | Hachiman | I do not think so |
| 21:13.59 | Imperios | Either way ponies conquered half of the world |
| 21:14.07 | Ghel | The Mongol Empire was the largest. And later the British Empire was the largest. |
| 21:14.26 | OluapPlayer_ | The Empire will rise again once the reptilian infiltration is complete |
| 21:14.45 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: Tea-drinking dinosaurs |
| 21:14.55 | Imperios | Anyway Lauren Faust must be a descendant of Genghis Khan |
| 21:14.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Give him wings and you get the Klaxxa |
| 21:15.03 | Imperios | The Brony fandom is actually the Second Mongol Empire |
| 21:15.26 | Hachiman | I still find it so utterly bizarre that the Incans would perform ceremonies using the bodies of dead people, particularly their rulers, and carry their mummified corpses into battle |
| 21:15.46 | Imperios | Hachiman: So that's where Lord Kroak's concept comes from |
| 21:16.26 | Hachiman | Do not degrade the Mongols like that hur |
| 21:16.36 | Hachiman | I imagine so yeah |
| 21:16.55 | Hachiman | The Incas used similar seats to what the Slann sit on to parade their dead |
| 21:17.28 | Hachiman | Lizardmen are best Warhammer Fantasy race hur |
| 21:17.34 | Hachiman | Or at least one of |
| 21:17.39 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12471680_10205416186832374_2416559879776916905_o.jpg 11/10 |
| 21:18.02 | Hachiman | hur |
| 21:18.36 | Imperios | Lizardmen and Skaven |
| 21:18.40 | Imperios | That sounded furry but it isn't |
| 21:19.30 | Imperios | Xho: Didn't you say that this guy was how you imagined Santorakh to look like in human form |
| 21:19.44 | Xho | As a joke |
| 21:19.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Good ol' rub |
| 21:21.40 | Monet | Hachiman: If I recall the Olmecs were utterly shocked when SPanish soldiers ambushed the emperor's convoy, dragged him into a hut and killed him. |
| 21:22.44 | Hachiman | Do you not mean Aztecs? |
| 21:23.33 | Imperios | Yeah Olmecs were kinda dead by the time the SPanish arrived |
| 21:25.00 | Monet | I think it might have been the Aztecs |
| 21:25.24 | Monet | Whoever it was, as South American empire who were utterly shocked that people figured "ahh let's jsut kill the emperor" and did it |
| 21:26.05 | Hachiman | Yeah it was the Aztecs |
| 21:26.15 | Hachiman | Olmecs and Mayans were gone before the era of colonialism |
| 21:30.07 | Imperios | South American? |
| 21:30.09 | Imperios | Incan then |
| 21:30.18 | Imperios | I mean Aztecs are in North America |
| 21:30.23 | Imperios | Mexico is North America right |
| 21:30.43 | Hachiman | I do not think so |
| 21:30.58 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 21:31.04 | Hachiman | Yes you are right |
| 21:31.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes, Mexico is North American |
| 21:32.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Canada, USA and Mexico make up NA |
| 21:33.51 | Ghel | My impression is that, when considering continents, Central America is part of North America. But when talking about pre-Columbian cultures, it's distinctly it's own Mesoamerican thing. Not South America in either sense though. |
| 21:34.03 | Monet | Mexico is considreed Central America. |
| 21:34.14 | OluapPlayer_ | For you maybe |
| 21:34.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Over here we consider it North American |
| 21:34.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Part of Latin American, but geographically part of North America |
| 21:34.58 | OluapPlayer_ | *America |
| 21:37.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Wikipedia also classifies Mexico as North American |
| 21:37.56 | Ghel | So it does. |
| 21:38.31 | Ghel | It also classifies Central America (which doesn't include Mexico) as North American. |
| 21:38.34 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: So "bros from far away" |
| 21:39.57 | OluapPlayer_ | I guess the US doesn't classify Central America as its own thing then |
| 21:40.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Because we do over here |
| 21:40.09 | OluapPlayer_ | It's the whole reason it has its own name after all |
| 21:41.42 | OluapPlayer_ | "In Brazil, Central America comprises all countries between Mexico and Colombia, including those in the Caribbean" |
| 21:41.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah seems like it changes from place to place |
| 21:42.13 | OluapPlayer_ | "Mexico, in whole or in part, is sometimes included by British people." |
| 21:42.25 | OluapPlayer_ | The British are literally the devil |
| 21:42.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho most specifically |
| 21:42.46 | Xho | god save the queen |
| 21:45.25 | Imperios | Russians only distinguish two Americans |
| 21:45.27 | Imperios | *Americas |
| 21:45.33 | Imperios | "DESTROY" and "not destroy" |
| 21:45.40 | Imperios | I.e the USA and the rest of the continent |
| 21:45.58 | OluapPlayer_ | hur |
| 21:46.15 | DrodoEmpire | As a Canadian, phew |
| 21:46.18 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 21:46.44 | Technobliterator | do they still hate the US after the Cold War |
| 21:47.17 | Imperios | We *lost* the Cold War |
| 21:47.24 | Imperios | So we are still kind of bitter |
| 21:47.48 | Imperios | Especially the older generation |
| 21:48.04 | Xho | https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/drum-track-groove/s-J3iEG Got drums |
| 21:48.28 | OluapPlayer_ | I read that as "Drum Trump Groove" for a second |
| 21:48.31 | Imperios | We also treat NATO and EU expansion as dangerous |
| 21:48.33 | OluapPlayer_ | make music great again |
| 21:48.39 | Imperios | To ourselves that is |
| 21:48.47 | Xho | aye |
| 21:48.55 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Settlin_Da_Score#An_Da_Last_Pizza - Loron feels :o |
| 21:49.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes, chek sad Loron |
| 21:49.47 | Imperios | Also we see America supporting revolutions and intervening in warring countries as both imperialistic and hurtful for the entire world |
| 21:50.27 | Imperios | For the average Russian, sacrificing stability for democracy is a bad thing |
| 21:50.29 | OluapPlayer_ | That's not just Russia |
| 21:50.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Plenty of people think that even inside the US |
| 21:50.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but the thing with the US is that they don't *really* set up democracies |
| 21:51.13 | DrodoEmpire | Half the time their putting in dictatorships in replacement of a democratically-elected government |
| 21:51.17 | DrodoEmpire | *they're |
| 21:52.15 | Imperios | ^ That |
| 21:52.23 | DrodoEmpire | And when they actually try to put in democracy, I get the feeling that's little more than a pretense for other objectives |
| 21:52.48 | Imperios | Basically half of our actions are because we're afraid of them spurring civil war in OUR place |
| 21:53.06 | Imperios | Half of te rationale for invading Ukraine was "fuck, we're next" |
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| 21:54.30 | Monet | Interesting. |
| 21:54.39 | Monet | But like they say there's two sides ot every story |
| 21:55.25 | Imperios | There were several rationales |
| 21:56.12 | Imperios | First of all, the government wanted to restore popularity |
| 21:56.51 | Imperios | Second, we feared that the new Ukrainian government would be too unpredictable and radical to work with |
| 21:57.14 | Imperios | Third, we needed to retain whatever assets we had left in the Ukraine, which is the Crimean fleet |
| 21:57.56 | Imperios | Fourth, with Ukraine wanting to join NATO, we planned to stir shit there so that they could not legally |
| 21:58.35 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah there were political objectives for sure |
| 21:58.42 | DrodoEmpire | Doesn't mean I agree with the invasion |
| 21:58.47 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 21:59.33 | Imperios | Neither do I |
| 21:59.39 | Imperios | It created more problems that is solved |
| 21:59.44 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
| 22:00.11 | Imperios | We overestimated just how nutty the Ukrainian government was, we could easily resolve the problem with the fleet diplomatically |
| 22:00.44 | Technobliterator | is Putin popular? |
| 22:00.45 | Imperios | Basically given the power of Neo-Nazi groups we kind of expected it to turn into a gung-ho ultranationalist state |
| 22:00.58 | Imperios | While in actuality it just became more nationalist |
| 22:01.02 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Definitely |
| 22:01.16 | OluapPlayer_ | All hail the God-Emperor |
| 22:01.27 | Imperios | We may not like the government institutions as a whole but Putin is generally respected |
| 22:02.00 | Imperios | A LOT of people don't like him, but consider him the best possible option |
| 22:02.49 | Imperios | I mean, who else would take power if Putin left |
| 22:03.09 | Imperios | Navalny was only liked by the hipster liberal left |
| 22:04.57 | Imperios | My opinion is that he is overrated by both sides |
| 22:05.21 | Imperios | He is neither a charismatic god-emperor of Russia |
| 22:05.44 | Imperios | Nor a demonic tyrant as he is portrayed by Western media |
| 22:05.58 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
| 22:06.11 | Imperios | In fact he is not charismatic at all, he's just a random KGB guy pushed into the position of power |
| 22:06.15 | Imperios | Only mildly competent |
| 22:06.44 | Xho | ENDLESS POWA |
| 22:06.52 | Imperios | He does not have |
| 22:07.21 | Xho | i wasnt talkin aboot pootin |
| 22:07.31 | Imperios | As I said, he lacks the necessary ambition and power to be either a god-emperor or an evil dark lord |
| 22:08.14 | Imperios | He's definitely an improvement over the last five leaders we had |
| 22:08.43 | Imperios | Three old people, the guy who literally destroyed his country, and YELTSIN |
| 22:09.04 | Imperios | YELTSIN |
| 22:09.04 | Imperios | E |
| 22:09.05 | Imperios | L |
| 22:09.06 | Imperios | T |
| 22:09.06 | Imperios | S |
| 22:09.07 | Imperios | I |
| 22:09.08 | Imperios | N |
| 22:09.18 | OluapPlayer_ | sss |
| 22:09.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Honestly I know nothing about Putin other than he's in charge of Russia |
| 22:09.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Mainly because I know fuckall about politics |
| 22:10.32 | Imperios | He was once a KGB spy in Germnay |
| 22:14.05 | OluapPlayer_ | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/065/320/3f0.png Presidency: not even once |
| 22:14.37 | Xho | 8 yeers tho |
| 22:14.48 | OluapPlayer_ | "Presidents are like dogs, ageing faster, being blamed for messes, you get a new one every few years." |
| 22:15.00 | Monet | What did Yeltsin do again? |
| 22:15.05 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: http://s.fishki.net/upload/users/444411/201403/25/bc6f382cce85dccf7b24a0976ec569c8.jpg Meanwhile Putin |
| 22:15.08 | Xho | He was 46 when he was in office |
| 22:15.16 | OluapPlayer_ | olol |
| 22:15.42 | Xho | Wait that's not right |
| 22:15.57 | Xho | 7 years |
| 22:16.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Sc5ot5lBw nearly forgot to show you this came out |
| 22:16.12 | Monet | I think that's what people sometimes miss when they complain - you don't age that quickly unless you're in perpetual frustration |
| 22:16.53 | Xho | +50 rads |
| 22:17.00 | Monet | Streess is a fact of the job |
| 22:17.20 | OluapPlayer_ | ACK ACK ACK |
| 22:17.26 | Imperios | Monet: Forced capitalism on Russia turning it into a mafia state |
| 22:19.08 | Imperios | Did nothing to avert it as well |
| 22:20.30 | Imperios | Hachiman: So Aquaman and Khal Drogo really are played by the same guy |
| 22:20.52 | Xho | "Trying to Jarl Ballin'" |
| 22:20.54 | Xho | 10/10 |
| 22:22.29 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd panic at a Radroach swarm |
| 22:22.37 | Hachiman | Imperios: I knew this for a while |
| 22:22.46 | Hachiman | Khal Drogo is perfect for the Aquaman role |
| 22:23.58 | Xho | Jason Momoa u fools |
| 22:24.54 | Hachiman | I say Momoa is perfect for the Aquaman role because of his Hawaiian heritage |
| 22:34.01 | Xho | Has anyone here got any good places to read about quantum mechanics |
| 22:34.31 | Hachiman | I would ask Ghelae and Wormy |
| 22:34.47 | Xho | both of which are not here |
| 22:34.51 | Xho | has failed the mission |
| 22:35.31 | Monet | Xho: What do you need to know? |
| 22:35.38 | Monet | Might have some idea. |
| 22:35.41 | Xho | I mean just a general starter point to it |
| 22:36.02 | Xho | My friend is interested in quantum mechanics so I knew I'd get a good idea where to start here |
| 22:36.40 | Monet | http://www.livescience.com/33816-quantum-mechanics-explanation.html this might help |
| 22:37.29 | Hachiman | inb4 this friend is a girl and Xho wants to get in her pants |
| 22:37.54 | Xho | That would be a girl to ask out |
| 22:38.09 | Xho | Granted if I found her attractive |
| 22:38.18 | Xho | Which is unlikely given any situation |
| 22:38.57 | OluapPlayer_ | You all chek Loron fiction |
| 22:39.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: You especially |
| 22:42.18 | Xho | Kicath - translators cannot translate this level of stupid |
| 22:43.08 | Monet | Xho: Speaking of Kicath: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Devastation_on_Alcanti |
| 22:46.28 | Technobliterator | I concur with "chek Loron fiction" |
| 22:46.34 | Technobliterator | I gave up revision time for that :c |
| 22:47.39 | Xho | Hm, I do wonder what the Kicath would make of that |
| 22:49.27 | Xho | "HAO MUCH FOR A BAGUETTE HUMIE LOSA" |
| 22:49.29 | Xho | #Loron |
| 22:49.51 | Hachiman | Coincidentally as I am reading the Loron fiction |
| 22:49.54 | Hachiman | I am eating pizza |
| 22:51.17 | Xho | The Kicath would probably remain far from Alcanti, any investigation they'd take would probably cause the Draconis more concern than relief |
| 22:53.48 | Hachiman | Surprisingly very emotional for a Loron-centric piece |
| 22:53.58 | Hachiman | Loron fiction actually is quite emotional for some reason hur |
| 22:54.51 | Hachiman | I do love the dynamic between Jol'kiar and Fre'kloar; it really adds a lot to their character |
| 22:55.49 | Monet | Xho: Probably not. France is already sending a battleship to provide relief |
| 22:56.00 | Xho | Kicath - FUCKING HUMANS |
| 22:56.58 | Monet | Or they could perhaps work with RAIDS |
| 22:57.58 | Technobliterator | Yup, we tried to make it sentimental and still funny at the same time! Thanks for feedback ^.^ |
| 22:58.31 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEsZkTTgydc This is how I imagine a Draconis would get arrested |
| 22:59.38 | Monet | Xho: Lol |
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| 22:59.55 | Monet | "Oh that's a nice headlock sir!" |
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| 23:00.31 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 23:01.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Randum |
| 23:02.07 | Xho | Draconis - GENTLEMEN, THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST |
| 23:02.20 | Technobliterator | hi random |
| 23:06.18 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Loron Sith |
| 23:06.31 | Technobliterator | hah |
| 23:06.40 | Hachiman | ROOL OF KOOL |
| 23:06.44 | Hachiman | Whoops |
| 23:06.45 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 23:06.48 | Hachiman | ROOL OF TOO |
| 23:07.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Darff Sikka |
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| 23:10.34 | Monet | Xho: Actually given the Kicath presence in the DI anyway, the peopel of Alcanti might be used to Kicath officers (that is, if any would join Domestic Security) |
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| 23:55.40 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 23:56.20 | Monet | Hi |
| 23:56.36 | Wormydroid | What's been happening today? |
| 23:57.09 | Hachiman | Xho wanted to know where to start with reading about quantum physics so he can get into a woman's pants |
| 23:58.18 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:58.27 | Wormydroid | Well in quantum mechanisms, there is some probability you are in every woman's pants, somwhere in the multiverse. |
| 23:58.56 | OluapPlayer_ | The closest Hachi will ever get to getting laid |
| 23:59.08 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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