| 00:01.23 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/KX11dF1h.jpg The porn in question, a shot from which I saw in a video |
| 00:01.35 | ImpyDroid | Hachi actually watched it to the end |
| 00:01.37 | OluapPlayer | I saw the pic already |
| 00:01.49 | *** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (~chatzilla@2601:441:0:6:8ddf:e40f:b3ce:36d3) |
| 00:01.56 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ |
| 00:02.16 | OluapPlayer | That's his concern |
| 00:02.18 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 00:02.24 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 00:03.54 | ImpyDroid | I am not sure why no-one reacted to this picture |
| 00:04.12 | OluapPlayer | I've seen weirder |
| 00:08.36 | Technobliterator | I didn't click on it for good reason |
| 00:08.50 | ImpyDroid | It is not anything NSFW |
| 00:08.56 | ImpyDroid | You can click |
| 00:09.11 | OluapPlayer | It's a guy dressed in a Spongebob costume talking to a nurse |
| 00:09.20 | ImpyDroid | It is not a nurse |
| 00:09.24 | ImpyDroid | It is Sandy |
| 00:09.35 | Hachiman | Aye it's Sandy |
| 00:09.44 | OluapPlayer | Looks like a nurse to me |
| 00:10.12 | Technobliterator | that's really dumb |
| 00:10.20 | Hachiman | But she is wearing Sandy's helmet |
| 00:10.21 | OluapPlayer | ya really dum |
| 00:10.28 | Technobliterator | ya mom is |
| 00:10.35 | OluapPlayer | Write the Loron thing about the Kicath before you forget to again |
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| 00:12.48 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 00:13.00 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 00:13.59 | Wormy_ | brb |
| 00:15.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Hellrock (43b553e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.181.83.224) |
| 00:15.36 | Monet | Yeah that's a bit of a wierd nurse's outfit |
| 00:16.23 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Hellrock |
| 00:17.58 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/n4fu0rR |
| 00:21.22 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:24.14 | Hellrock | Hello. |
| 00:31.18 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki_talk:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source This guy is full of bad ideas |
| 00:31.42 | OluapPlayer | ur conception was a bad idea |
| 00:31.47 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 00:32.22 | Hachiman | Although I bet your mother wished to take the afterbirth home with her rather than you |
| 00:32.25 | ImpyDroid | Moon magic |
| 00:32.45 | ImpyDroid | Ayy lmao |
| 00:32.49 | Hachiman | Ayy lmao |
| 00:33.01 | OluapPlayer | Ayy lmagic |
| 00:33.07 | Hachiman | hur |
| 00:33.14 | Hachiman | Ayy lmancy |
| 00:33.22 | OluapPlayer | Storm magic is already moon magic, because Xho is a weirdo who can't into collaborative settings |
| 00:33.38 | Technobliterator | I didn't forget, I just didn't have time to finish it, I have to revise for exams |
| 00:33.54 | OluapPlayer | u forgot |
| 00:33.55 | OluapPlayer | dumba |
| 00:35.06 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 00:35.16 | Technobliterator | I'll finish tomorrow |
| 00:36.03 | ImpyDroid | Wouldn't Outworlders use some sort of moon magic |
| 00:36.13 | ImpyDroid | Since they are kind of sort of from the moon |
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| 00:36.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Motherfucker |
| 00:37.26 | Hachiman | Imp was asking wehtehr Outworlders would use some sort of moon magic since they are kind of sort of from the moon |
| 00:37.41 | OluapPlayer_ | No more magic schools |
| 00:37.46 | OluapPlayer_ | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c9/Nightshade_Gargoyle.png/revision/latest?cb=20160112003715 spooky stone bats |
| 00:38.08 | Hachiman | dat nose |
| 00:38.16 | Hachiman | Looks pretty good to me |
| 00:38.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Getting the wings right was easier than the head |
| 00:39.04 | OluapPlayer_ | That's saying something since I hate making wings in Spore |
| 00:39.12 | ImpyDroid | I am just thinking what magic they would use |
| 00:39.25 | ImpyDroid | Their magic is dark but also kind of not dark |
| 00:40.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Dark magic would fit them the best on the basis of them being undead |
| 00:40.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Magic is not something completely flat, Clothovera's dark magic is definitely not the same as a vampire's |
| 00:40.38 | Hachiman | too much dark magic nagnagnag |
| 00:43.20 | Monet | Now I'm curious. To me, poison- and flora- feel like life magic. |
| 00:43.36 | Hachiman | I cannot see how poison is life magic |
| 00:43.49 | OluapPlayer_ | No such thing as life magic in Koldenwelt |
| 00:43.49 | Monet | Because it is to do with life and death. |
| 00:44.05 | ImpyDroid | There is floramancu |
| 00:44.15 | ImpyDroid | And venomancy |
| 00:44.19 | Hachiman | Theoretically any magic has an affiliation with life and death, mostly death hur |
| 00:44.28 | ImpyDroid | Why is venomancy its own thing actually |
| 00:44.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Why not? |
| 00:44.50 | Hachiman | Sand and earth are effectively the same yet they are different magic schools |
| 00:44.52 | OluapPlayer_ | It's been around since forever and is developed as its own thing |
| 00:44.53 | Monet | Well it feels like floramancy used in a different way. |
| 00:45.02 | Hellrock | I was thinking of Earth magic. |
| 00:45.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Venomancy doesn't focus itself solely on plant poisons |
| 00:45.42 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 00:45.50 | OluapPlayer_ | I imagine anything considered toxic falling under venomancy |
| 00:46.04 | ImpyDroid | I wonder if venomancy covers more than just poison |
| 00:46.12 | Hachiman | We just said that |
| 00:46.12 | OluapPlayer_ | I just said it |
| 00:46.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Toxins, venoms, diseases |
| 00:46.29 | OluapPlayer_ | plagues, etc |
| 00:46.36 | ImpyDroid | So decay |
| 00:46.40 | Hachiman | Essentially |
| 00:46.47 | Hachiman | But not exclusively |
| 00:47.00 | Monet | Flora- and venomancy could be facets of maybe...gaiamancy? |
| 00:47.12 | Hachiman | Stop making stuff up on the spot |
| 00:47.15 | Hachiman | pls |
| 00:47.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Not every magic school needs an origin, they're allowed to be their own thing |
| 00:47.49 | ImpyDroid | Flora is growth, poison is decay |
| 00:47.50 | Monet | I'm trying not to. |
| 00:47.51 | Hachiman | They are probably related in some way and can likely overlap but they are otherwise independent |
| 00:48.03 | ImpyDroid | So two things that can be called life magic |
| 00:48.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Venertimanoth created the Fire Drakes by giving shape to fire, yet fire can also burn people and kill them |
| 00:48.32 | ImpyDroid | What kind of magic would transforming into an animal be |
| 00:48.37 | ImpyDroid | Or affecting animals |
| 00:48.44 | Hachiman | Arcane |
| 00:48.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Arcane or flora I guess |
| 00:49.15 | Hachiman | Transformation I imagine is one of the specialties of arcane magic |
| 00:50.25 | Monet | Blood magic I can understand because blood is life and whatnot as well as it ocntining aspects of both water and life. |
| 00:50.42 | Monet | Maybe I'm looking at it too scientifically. |
| 00:51.00 | DrodoEmpire | no science pls |
| 00:51.09 | Hachiman | The magic schools are versatile and likely do overlap on occasion but otherwise |
| 00:51.15 | DrodoEmpire | fantasyverse m80 |
| 00:51.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Like Hachi, virtually all schools are able to create or end life |
| 00:51.22 | DrodoEmpire | 3:> |
| 00:51.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachi said* |
| 00:51.36 | Hachiman | There use is only extended to how creative and versatile spellcasters are |
| 00:51.53 | Hachiman | I mean yeah there are some definite limitations but other than that |
| 00:52.34 | ImpyDroid | I think magic schools in the Fantasyverse are not important after all |
| 00:52.57 | Monet | You say floramancy is used to control plants. What would manipulating a plant to wilt or stop blooming or enter hibernation be? |
| 00:52.57 | ImpyDroid | It's not Warcraft where you have multiple magic sources |
| 00:53.05 | Hachiman | Floramancy |
| 00:53.08 | ImpyDroid | Here it's all one source separated |
| 00:53.27 | OluapPlayer_ | That is true |
| 00:53.32 | OluapPlayer_ | In the end it's all the Source |
| 00:53.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Just multiple facets of it |
| 00:53.58 | Monet | Seems more like classifications that came about from use preference. |
| 00:54.35 | OluapPlayer_ | They have relevance |
| 00:54.40 | Monet | In the end the most elemental magic schools are probably earth, air, fire, water, light and darkness. |
| 00:54.45 | Monet | Everything else is a combination. |
| 00:54.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Considering they have related elementals, dragons and Colossi dedicated to each |
| 00:55.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Various schools which combined create the Source |
| 00:55.51 | ImpyDroid | Or is it the other way around |
| 00:56.17 | ImpyDroid | Colossi and natural creatures inspiring the ways of using magic |
| 00:56.38 | Monet | Like earth and sand magic |
| 00:57.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Consideirng they used/are made of their respective magic schools, I find my theory more likely |
| 00:57.13 | OluapPlayer_ | *use |
| 00:57.18 | Monet | At the end of the day sand magic is the magical manipulation of really really tiny rocks. |
| 00:58.58 | Hachiman | I think people are being far too analytical |
| 00:59.22 | Monet | An earth magic user is going to have much more versatility in what they can do because they can manipulate mountains, lava flows, the very geosphere is their tool. |
| 00:59.26 | ImpyDroid | It is fantasy |
| 00:59.35 | ImpyDroid | A constructed world needs some rules |
| 00:59.44 | Hachiman | Eh I would say lava falls under both pyromancy and geomancy |
| 01:00.00 | Hachiman | Plus the magic schools are not flat or linear |
| 01:00.07 | ImpyDroid | If we talk about drakes Earth Drakes are lava-like |
| 01:01.14 | OluapPlayer_ | I've given Xacutus the power of causing lava to rise from the soil, and he's solely a pyromancer |
| 01:01.15 | ImpyDroid | sometimes |
| 01:01.26 | Monet | Wasn't sure if I was saying that. |
| 01:01.28 | OluapPlayer_ | He has dark magic flowing through him but he's not able to actually use it |
| 01:01.31 | ImpyDroid | So both |
| 01:01.52 | Hachiman | Creating and manipulating lava is not a power exclusive to a single school |
| 01:02.08 | Hachiman | Creating and manipulating water however |
| 01:02.23 | Monet | What I like about the Last Airbender series is how much power benders have with just their four elements. |
| 01:02.54 | OluapPlayer_ | I still think Xacutus creating a bridge from Akriarion to Abyssus by causing lava to rise from the ocean floor is the biggest demonstration of power I've ever done to a character |
| 01:02.58 | OluapPlayer_ | At least in the fantasyverse |
| 01:03.06 | Hachiman | I still find it very impressive |
| 01:03.20 | Monet | Katarra is a water-bender but her abilities by the Koldenweltian standard include hydromancy, haemomancy and cryomancy. |
| 01:03.21 | Hachiman | It was one of the most badass things I have seen in the Fantasyverse |
| 01:04.01 | OluapPlayer_ | That implies people are forced into one magic school or that they're all very restrictive |
| 01:04.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Which's false |
| 01:04.31 | Hachiman | Geomancers and arenamancers can probably learn each other's magic easier than say a geomancer and a hydromancer can |
| 01:04.37 | Hachiman | But they are still separate magics |
| 01:05.09 | Monet | It's easier to master one school than be very good at many schools. |
| 01:05.19 | Hachiman | Arguable |
| 01:05.25 | Wormy_ | bye |
| 01:05.41 | Monet | It's called specialisation. |
| 01:05.46 | Hachiman | I know what it is called |
| 01:05.57 | Monet | Plus not every wizard on Koldenwelt is immortal. |
| 01:06.18 | Hachiman | And specialisation has been proven to be dangerous, which is why a lot of spellcasters in the Fantasyverse opt for at least some knowledge in arcane magic alongside whatever else they use |
| 01:06.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Well, ideally there shouldn't be any immortals in Koldenwelt right now |
| 01:06.43 | Monet | A lot of specialists do that. |
| 01:06.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Part of the world's background involves the creation of mortality |
| 01:06.54 | Monet | It's just they also have one thing they're really really expert at. |
| 01:07.49 | Monet | Specialisation can be dangerous yes, if you're on your own. |
| 01:08.00 | Hachiman | I know how specialisation works Monet |
| 01:08.03 | Hachiman | I have played RPGs |
| 01:08.32 | ImpyDroid | I do not think schools are fundamentally different |
| 01:08.54 | ImpyDroid | As I said, one source |
| 01:08.56 | Hachiman | You missed the part where I said schools tend to overlap God |
| 01:09.10 | Monet | Okay fine |
| 01:09.10 | OluapPlayer_ | pay attention u |
| 01:09.20 | OluapPlayer_ | We've been on about how they're not restricted things |
| 01:09.45 | Monet | It's easier to be a master of TWO or THREE than being good at everything. Does that fit your opinion? |
| 01:10.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Being good at everything would probably be too much work to be worthwhile |
| 01:10.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Some magic schools don't get along, most noticeable example being light and dark |
| 01:11.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:11.25 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be generally very difficult to do I imagine |
| 01:11.30 | Technobliterator | Fire and Ice? |
| 01:11.36 | ImpyDroid | Come to think about it very few magic schools actually matter that much |
| 01:11.43 | ImpyDroid | To be fundamentally different |
| 01:11.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Behold, water |
| 01:11.54 | Hachiman | But they do because of the Colossi |
| 01:12.13 | ImpyDroid | Sun, Storm, Void, Dark, Light, everything else works roughly the same |
| 01:12.32 | Hachiman | Yes because pyromancy works the same as aquamancy |
| 01:12.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Void is not part of the Source |
| 01:12.45 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Pretty much yes it does |
| 01:12.48 | Hachiman | And yes Void is not a Koldenweltian magic |
| 01:12.59 | Hachiman | We are gonna have to disagree friendo |
| 01:13.08 | ImpyDroid | You make fire, you make ice |
| 01:13.25 | Monet | I might be looking at this from the perspective of the sciences: You have human anatomy, but within that you also have neurologists, cardiologists, paediatrists, dermatologists and gynacologists. |
| 01:13.26 | OluapPlayer_ | I make dinner |
| 01:13.28 | ImpyDroid | No emotional or spiritual difference between the two actions |
| 01:13.29 | OluapPlayer_ | dere is no dinner magic |
| 01:13.44 | Hachiman | Yes, people are being too scientific |
| 01:14.02 | ImpyDroid | If elemental magic schools are fundamentally different then one has to reconsider the elements |
| 01:14.06 | Hachiman | This is why Pathfinder explicitly makes it known that there is a difference between nonmagical and magical stuff like fire |
| 01:14.18 | ImpyDroid | Because as Monet pointed out they have been chosen fairly randomly |
| 01:14.37 | ImpyDroid | Like for example death is not a thing but sand is |
| 01:14.37 | Hachiman | It's too late to re-evaluate the elements |
| 01:14.45 | ImpyDroid | Sand is more important than death |
| 01:14.50 | Hachiman | Death is a thing that is shared across ALL of the shcools |
| 01:14.52 | Hachiman | schools |
| 01:15.08 | ImpyDroid | Death not as in killing people |
| 01:15.23 | ImpyDroid | Death as in actual death, the underworld, which is part of dark |
| 01:15.31 | Hachiman | Yes, dark magic works like that |
| 01:15.58 | ImpyDroid | Which is why I think we should not treat the differences between magic schools as fundamental |
| 01:16.14 | Monet | This division is what I see in the fantasyverse magic schools. Where fundamentally, floramancy, venomancy and haemomancy can have very similar effects. (depending on how they're used toxin manipulation could be used to heal) |
| 01:16.29 | Hachiman | I generally viewed healing as falling under arcane magic |
| 01:16.37 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't see why it would matter. We've been working with these elements since 2014, and changing them would be ruining tons of work done by multiple users |
| 01:17.01 | ImpyDroid | No I do not believe changing them would work but viewing them as fundamental is a bit strange |
| 01:17.23 | OluapPlayer_ | If you removed sand magic from the setting, you'd be retconning all of my main fiction out |
| 01:17.23 | ImpyDroid | Or else we are facing the odd conundrum of sand being more important than life and death |
| 01:17.32 | ImpyDroid | SAND IS LOVE, SAND IS LIFE |
| 01:17.41 | Hachiman | But sand is not more important than life and death |
| 01:17.47 | Hachiman | Dark magic encompasses death |
| 01:17.55 | ImpyDroid | Exactly |
| 01:18.02 | Hachiman | And dark magic is a thing |
| 01:18.06 | Hachiman | I do not see your point |
| 01:18.13 | Monet | So how come sand magic exists when it's essentially a narrower form of earth magic? |
| 01:18.21 | ImpyDroid | Death does not comprise its on domain whereas sand somehow is separated from the earth |
| 01:18.37 | ImpyDroid | See, which is why the idea of elements being fundamental is strange |
| 01:18.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Why should there be death magic when dark magic exists? |
| 01:19.03 | OluapPlayer_ | The concept of death is part of dark magic |
| 01:19.09 | ImpyDroid | Because death is not always conflated with darkness, much like sand is separate from the earth |
| 01:19.39 | Hachiman | Ech I think you are making far too much of an outcry |
| 01:19.48 | OluapPlayer_ | I can understand his point |
| 01:19.58 | OluapPlayer_ | But I'm not up for changing the magic school list in any way |
| 01:19.59 | Hachiman | So can I but nothing we can do about it now |
| 01:20.06 | Monet | 'Dark' is...somewhat vague when used practically. And Impy's right, death isn't automatically negative. |
| 01:20.10 | ImpyDroid | I do not think it should be cjsnged |
| 01:20.20 | ImpyDroid | I think it should not be treated as fundamental |
| 01:20.26 | Hachiman | We got the point |
| 01:20.40 | ImpyDroid | But rather as an in-universe way magic is classified perhaps |
| 01:20.51 | ImpyDroid | ...Wait is being a Colossus an actual innate quality or just a title of a sort |
| 01:20.53 | Monet | In the circle of life, death is pretty neutral actually. Maybe even beneficial as it returns materials t othe earth. |
| 01:21.02 | Hachiman | An innate quality |
| 01:21.05 | OluapPlayer_ | An innate quality |
| 01:21.20 | Hachiman | Also yes, death is not always negative, which is why there are good people who use dark magic for good |
| 01:21.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Colossi stem from Isiris to be gods of their respective elements |
| 01:21.25 | Hachiman | Dark magic is not an evil magic |
| 01:21.53 | Monet | So if each school isn't treated as fundamental...maybe we have too many colossi. |
| 01:22.07 | OluapPlayer_ | We have a Colossus for each magic school |
| 01:22.11 | OluapPlayer_ | We have the ideal number of Colossi |
| 01:22.13 | Monet | Yes |
| 01:22.29 | Hachiman | This is how the Fantasyverse's GOD wanted things to be |
| 01:22.34 | Hachiman | In-universe |
| 01:22.48 | ImpyDroid | And that is weird |
| 01:22.51 | Monet | Yeah you're right, too late to change unless you all fancy a massive rework. |
| 01:23.06 | OluapPlayer_ | It's weird but we're weird and we don't follow everyone's norm because we're cool like that |
| 01:23.08 | ImpyDroid | Could we perhaps make it more vague? |
| 01:23.09 | OluapPlayer_ | get used to it hur |
| 01:23.22 | Hachiman | Monet honestly I think you do not have much of a say in a rework since you are not even involved in the Fantasyverse all that much |
| 01:23.39 | Monet | Hachiman: THat's why I said *you* all |
| 01:23.41 | DrodoEmpire | He's allowed to ask questions Hachi |
| 01:23.55 | Hachiman | I think people are just making a big problem out of things |
| 01:24.09 | Hachiman | Making problems out of things which were not problems before |
| 01:24.11 | DrodoEmpire | I wouldn't take some well-intentioned criticism personally. |
| 01:24.19 | ImpyDroid | ^ That |
| 01:24.24 | OluapPlayer_ | The way I see it, they're not classified as in "sand is supa important" |
| 01:24.31 | OluapPlayer_ | It's more like "you can cast magic through sand" |
| 01:24.38 | ImpyDroid | Ya |
| 01:24.54 | Technobliterator | I hate when people try and limit who can comment on discussions |
| 01:25.03 | OluapPlayer_ | I hate u, shup go away |
| 01:25.09 | Technobliterator | Everyone should be allowed to have input just like everyone is allowed to edit |
| 01:25.15 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:25.29 | Hachiman | Ugh |
| 01:25.33 | Hachiman | Alright I'm the bad guy |
| 01:25.33 | The_Randomness | https://twitter.com/LKrauss1/status/686574829542092800 !!! |
| 01:25.37 | Technobliterator | it's why I hate Wookieepedia and its "you can't vote unless you have 50 mainspace edits" policy |
| 01:25.50 | ImpyDroid | Sigh |
| 01:25.54 | Monet | Hachiman: You say that you understand our point and then you say things like that. Which is it? |
| 01:25.55 | OluapPlayer_ | The_Randomness: Who dis |
| 01:26.01 | The_Randomness | read the tweet |
| 01:26.09 | OluapPlayer_ | It's gibberish to me |
| 01:26.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Elaborate |
| 01:26.15 | Monet | Are we making a big fuss out of nothing or do we have at least some point? |
| 01:26.30 | The_Randomness | For ages gravitational waves have been predicted |
| 01:26.34 | ImpyDroid | It's Hachi guilt-tripping |
| 01:26.38 | ImpyDroid | Wait a little bit |
| 01:26.52 | The_Randomness | But now they might've found evidence of them |
| 01:26.54 | ImpyDroid | Still I'd think it'd be more interesting if it was an actual in-universe classification as opposed to some cosmic order |
| 01:27.12 | ImpyDroid | So, people cast magic, use sand in the process, call it sand magic |
| 01:27.24 | Monet | The_Randomness: I am very exited now. |
| 01:27.25 | OluapPlayer_ | That's how it works as far as I'm concerned |
| 01:27.37 | ImpyDroid | rite |
| 01:27.40 | OluapPlayer_ | You can't just, say, cast magic through a box |
| 01:27.47 | OluapPlayer_ | We therefore don't need Box Magic |
| 01:27.57 | ImpyDroid | It'd be cowardly |
| 01:28.23 | OluapPlayer_ | METUL BOXES |
| 01:28.31 | ImpyDroid | Well manipulating boxes would probably not be too widespread to warrant a school of its own |
| 01:28.35 | Technobliterator | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.42 | Monet | I thin kwhat ImpeyDroid is suggesting that sand magic, rather than being a fundamental branch of the source, is a variety of earth magic used by the peoples of Koldenwelt's deserts. |
| 01:28.48 | ImpyDroid | When viewed from a in-universe perspective it actually makes a lot of sense |
| 01:29.10 | OluapPlayer_ | It's a matter of experience. Honestly speaking Hachi is more experienced with the subject than Monet is |
| 01:29.17 | ImpyDroid | People living in deserts are a unique culture of its own |
| 01:29.32 | ImpyDroid | They see a lot of sand |
| 01:29.38 | Monet | To them, sand magic is what they call earth magic. |
| 01:29.41 | ImpyDroid | They develop their magic around sand |
| 01:29.44 | ImpyDroid | No no |
| 01:29.58 | ImpyDroid | Rather it is the way people use magic |
| 01:30.07 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't see a geomancer being able to manipulate sand, or an arenamander being able to manipulate earth |
| 01:30.15 | ImpyDroid | Yeah true |
| 01:30.20 | OluapPlayer_ | I imagine sand magic involves much more fluidity |
| 01:30.33 | Technobliterator | Oh, I've no doubt, but I do think there are better ways to point that out then "oh, you can't have any say at all, you weren't involved" |
| 01:30.37 | OluapPlayer_ | I also like the idea of sand magic being able to manipulate dust in general |
| 01:30.51 | ImpyDroid | About boxes, I presume if there was a land in Koldenwelt covered in boxes |
| 01:30.54 | Monet | Well then that raises the question: How much power do geomancers have over soil? |
| 01:30.58 | ImpyDroid | Some sort of box magic would have developed |
| 01:31.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Geomancers can cast magic through solid sturdy soil |
| 01:31.34 | ImpyDroid | Like people getting their brains around "how to move boxes with magik" |
| 01:31.47 | OluapPlayer_ | That'd just be arcane magic tho |
| 01:31.51 | ImpyDroid | It's like the matter of practice and what you are used to I guess |
| 01:32.14 | Monet | Soil is fundamentally made up of three kinds mof material: Silt, sand and clay. The balance of those three determines the soil's properties. |
| 01:32.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Speaking of METAL BOXES, I can imagine geomancers being able to manipulate metal |
| 01:32.53 | OluapPlayer_ | The more hardcore experienced ones at least |
| 01:32.55 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: As I said, if moving boxes happened a lot, a certain unique way of doing so would probably have developed |
| 01:33.05 | ImpyDroid | Separate from other arcane magics |
| 01:33.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Unless a Box Colossus popped up, it'd still be arcane magic hur |
| 01:33.52 | OluapPlayer_ | I can see sand magic as being a child of earth magic though. Considering the Old Sand Colossus was literally daughter of the Earth Colossus |
| 01:34.18 | Monet | THen wouldn't geomancers have full control over it? |
| 01:34.18 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: What if at some point it would |
| 01:34.26 | ImpyDroid | Hell now it makes sense |
| 01:34.52 | OluapPlayer_ | I've mused over the idea fire magic stems from sun magic |
| 01:34.55 | OluapPlayer_ | Doesn't mean heliomancers can shoot fireballs |
| 01:35.12 | ImpyDroid | What if Isiris and people's view of magic are like interconnected |
| 01:35.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Who knows, it might |
| 01:35.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Isiris's inner working are something i'd leave ambiguous though |
| 01:35.45 | ImpyDroid | Gud, I like the vagueness |
| 01:35.48 | Monet | Well ehliomancy is probably more to do with light, while pyromancy deals with heat. |
| 01:36.30 | OluapPlayer_ | You're vague |
| 01:36.41 | ImpyDroid | Islamic State of Iran, Russia, Iraq and Syria |
| 01:36.42 | OluapPlayer_ | As is your capability of getting pages written |
| 01:36.53 | ImpyDroid | Vaguerios |
| 01:37.06 | Monet | Since pyro- is a Greek prefix to mean "heat" |
| 01:37.56 | ImpyDroid | Light and heat usually accompany each other |
| 01:38.05 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 01:38.22 | Monet | Though actually the whole idea of a fireball always puzzled me: What's burning ot make the fire? |
| 01:38.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Magic |
| 01:38.46 | Monet | Now that's just silly. |
| 01:39.22 | Monet | I'll keep to my theory that them ore accurate term is 'plasmaball' |
| 01:39.25 | ImpyDroid | It is magic |
| 01:39.30 | ImpyDroid | Snort snort |
| 01:39.52 | Monet | Because you can make plasma out of air :> |
| 01:40.28 | ImpyDroid | I do not think fantasy needs that kind of detail |
| 01:40.37 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.43 | ImpyDroid | Or Howard |
| 01:40.47 | ImpyDroid | Or Le Guin |
| 01:40.50 | ImpyDroid | Or Martin |
| 01:41.04 | OluapPlayer_ | It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit |
| 01:41.17 | ImpyDroid | The rituals themselves could be shown |
| 01:41.39 | ImpyDroid | Magic generally follows some rituals that give it sense |
| 01:42.02 | ImpyDroid | I think it depends on the mage in question though |
| 01:42.25 | Monet | Remember I long preferred Clarke's belief that "magic" is simply the term used for the unexplained or the unexplainable. |
| 01:42.45 | OluapPlayer_ | That's your opinion |
| 01:42.46 | ImpyDroid | Valdemar for example basically memorises certain formulae and uses words to bring these memories to the front |
| 01:43.10 | OluapPlayer_ | There are definitely many ways to cast magic |
| 01:43.15 | OluapPlayer_ | I imagine it varies wildly per culture |
| 01:43.20 | ImpyDroid | Dare you bring science to our magical realm |
| 01:43.41 | ImpyDroid | Tolkien did not explain Gandalf hur |
| 01:43.43 | Monet | Yes but I'd rather "that's your opinion" not be used as code for "I don't care what you think" |
| 01:43.46 | ImpyDroid | Other than him being an angel |
| 01:44.01 | ImpyDroid | Yes but I do not think it is valid here |
| 01:44.08 | ImpyDroid | Fictionverse yeah |
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| 01:44.38 | Monet | As an angel, Gandalf has the innate ability to warp reality. That's all that needs ot be explained. |
| 01:45.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Source works the same way |
| 01:45.06 | ImpyDroid | Mages use the Source to warp reality according to certain patterns and rituals |
| 01:45.09 | OluapPlayer_ | It just works |
| 01:45.23 | Monet | I don't think he's an old man with a cane in the halls of the Valar. |
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| 01:46.11 | Monet | Yeah that may be why I prefer the Fictionverse: Not really fond of the explaination "It just does" |
| 01:46.27 | Monet | I'm willing ot accept magic has rules, as Impy said. |
| 01:46.43 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: So Valdemar uses memorized mental formulas, Carlini lets the Source enter her body and controls it through movement, bender-style, Lekren controls magic through condensing it in enchanted liquids |
| 01:46.51 | ImpyDroid | Or something |
| 01:46.56 | OluapPlayer_ | Wait |
| 01:46.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Lekren uses magic? |
| 01:47.04 | ImpyDroid | He is an alchemisr |
| 01:47.05 | OluapPlayer_ | I thought he was pure science |
| 01:47.07 | Monet | ALchemy |
| 01:47.16 | ImpyDroid | Some of his chemicals might be a bit magical |
| 01:47.24 | Monet | Alchemy is basically magical science. |
| 01:47.29 | DrodoEmpire | Be back in a minute |
| 01:47.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Hm |
| 01:47.33 | OluapPlayer_ | I guess that's fair enough |
| 01:47.48 | ImpyDroid | Like some might be purely scientifically, some have some magical properties |
| 01:48.17 | ImpyDroid | Clotho has her book |
| 01:48.21 | ImpyDroid | Hmmm |
| 01:48.43 | Monet | THen again if we go by Clarke, I guess to other Koldenweltians everything the Klaxxa do is magic. |
| 01:48.53 | OluapPlayer_ | I guess the Sea Witch would be the same sort as Carlini |
| 01:48.55 | ImpyDroid | If one replaced Alhazred with a simple book with a list of spells, how would that affect Clotho's spellcasting? |
| 01:48.56 | Hachiman | Whoa what |
| 01:49.09 | ImpyDroid | Hm? |
| 01:49.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Clotho wouldn't be able to cast magic at all |
| 01:49.15 | OluapPlayer_ | She requires a catalyst |
| 01:49.20 | OluapPlayer_ | In her current case, Alhazred |
| 01:49.23 | Hachiman | That is implying the Klaxxa's level of science is beyond what can be achieved by other nations |
| 01:49.31 | Hachiman | Or that it is hard to understand |
| 01:49.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Well, it is |
| 01:49.41 | OluapPlayer_ | They're the most advanced people in the setting |
| 01:49.52 | ImpyDroid | Zeppelins to some Koldenweltian tribe would indeed look magical |
| 01:49.52 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 01:49.59 | Monet | They're generating electricity though fire. |
| 01:50.11 | ImpyDroid | wait they do |
| 01:50.22 | ImpyDroid | They do not have electricity I think |
| 01:50.28 | ImpyDroid | They are like steampunk |
| 01:50.30 | Hachiman | Electromancy is a thing |
| 01:50.32 | ImpyDroid | Emphasis on steam |
| 01:50.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Hot steamy Klaxxa actuon |
| 01:50.46 | OluapPlayer_ | action even |
| 01:51.04 | Monet | While we might have the magical colossi, how many people of Koldenwelt posess observational evidence that the Colossi exist? |
| 01:51.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Some do, some don't |
| 01:51.30 | Hachiman | Most people I am certain do |
| 01:51.38 | Hachiman | Just not ALL of the Colossi |
| 01:51.42 | OluapPlayer_ | u had a stroke dere |
| 01:51.54 | Hachiman | ech |
| 01:51.57 | Monet | Hachiman: What about the farmers of say the Everwinter Highlands. |
| 01:51.59 | Hachiman | I am certain most people do |
| 01:52.11 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't imagine any of the eastern races being aware of Vulcardentron's existence right now |
| 01:52.20 | OluapPlayer_ | On the basis of him living in a wasteland infested with dinosaurs |
| 01:52.25 | Monet | THat's what people I am including, not just schoalrs or court magi. |
| 01:52.33 | Hachiman | So rednecks |
| 01:52.42 | OluapPlayer_ | In that case, probably depends of the culture |
| 01:52.50 | Hachiman | As in the kind of people who do not believe gravity or air is a thing because they cannot see it |
| 01:52.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Some cultures worship the Colossi and would know of them through education |
| 01:53.14 | ImpyDroid | Tales of them probably travel far |
| 01:53.23 | Monet | Well technically before the invention of steam power, 80-90% of a nation's population could technically count as rednecks. |
| 01:53.30 | OluapPlayer_ | I imagine Tangilaruka's existence is more or less common knowledge by now |
| 01:53.34 | Hachiman | I imagine most elven cultures have concluded that Colossi are a thing that exists |
| 01:53.39 | OluapPlayer_ | A giant sea monster who terrorizes the southern seas |
| 01:53.40 | Monet | Farming life doesn't leave much room for book learning. |
| 01:54.00 | Monet | OluapPlayer_: COudl still be a legend. |
| 01:54.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Not for those who live there |
| 01:54.15 | OluapPlayer_ | She periodically attacks ships |
| 01:54.16 | Hachiman | It's not a legend because it *exists* |
| 01:54.37 | Monet | Not for those who life there no. |
| 01:54.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Merovar who trade around the region are expected to be prepared in case she appears |
| 01:54.50 | Monet | But to those who live a little further inland it might be. |
| 01:55.12 | Hachiman | Unless inlanders talk to Tropical Landers and garner enough evidence from them to conclude that Tangilaruka is a thing |
| 01:55.13 | OluapPlayer_ | And their experiences definitely went all the way to the Sea of Sand |
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| 01:55.35 | DrodoEmpire | ayy back |
| 01:56.26 | Hachiman | Knowledge of Thunardormir's existence is practically universal among Dweorg-kin dwarves considering his role in their history |
| 01:57.03 | Monet | One tendency seen in pre-industrial nations is that unless you live in the big city (very few did before steam), your village was most of the know nworld as far as you were concerned. |
| 01:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:57.21 | Hachiman | Except maybe the Kyrsacov because they are like redneck dwarves |
| 01:57.23 | Monet | Even merchant nations. |
| 01:57.30 | DrodoEmpire | Villages were really disconnected and isolated |
| 01:57.35 | OluapPlayer_ | The Kyrsacov know Thunardormer exists |
| 01:57.40 | Hachiman | Right |
| 01:57.42 | OluapPlayer_ | But they're not aware of his exact physical location |
| 01:57.59 | OluapPlayer_ | dormir even |
| 01:58.06 | DrodoEmpire | There were those who travelled a *lot*, but most people often didn't travel much farther than the nearby town or city a few times |
| 01:58.52 | Hachiman | I think considering a majority of elves have an average lifespan which extends over 100 years, most of them have some time for learning |
| 01:58.59 | Monet | As much of an explosion in art, literature and culture the Italian Renniasance was, for the vast majority of the European population the evidence it was happening often boiled down to either more odd-looking people travelling down the main road or the fancy new mansion the local lord just built. |
| 01:59.17 | OluapPlayer_ | The fantasyverse is also not focused on the stinky rural farmer who has never read a book |
| 01:59.34 | Monet | Hachiman: Lifespan isn't the issue. |
| 01:59.38 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:59.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Focus is given to civilizations as a whole |
| 01:59.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah Oluap |
| 01:59.47 | Monet | Farm life is long, exhausting, year-round work. |
| 02:00.00 | Hachiman | Yes which is why it is boring and why we do not focus on it |
| 02:00.05 | DrodoEmpire | But civilizations are composed mostly of illiterate poor people |
| 02:00.20 | Monet | Until steam farm life was what most people knew though. |
| 02:00.34 | The_Randomness | yes |
| 02:00.35 | DrodoEmpire | I understand not wanting to focus on that though |
| 02:00.39 | DrodoEmpire | It is of course pretty boring |
| 02:00.39 | Monet | If not that, then working in a village workshop. |
| 02:01.02 | OluapPlayer_ | I've already given my two cents on it |
| 02:01.06 | ImpyDroid | That being said we should showcase the daily life in one of the big countries |
| 02:01.10 | DrodoEmpire | *pre-industrial civilizations |
| 02:01.13 | Monet | I'm okay with accepting knowledge of the COlossi as fact in larger cities where their movements will probably affect trade. |
| 02:01.23 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Not all civilisations are agricultural |
| 02:01.29 | DrodoEmpire | Well no of course |
| 02:01.32 | Hachiman | Honestly it does not matter what you accept or not |
| 02:01.37 | ImpyDroid | Consider the Merovar Dynasty |
| 02:02.07 | Monet | ImpyDroid: I imagine the Dynasty still has a sizeable population of farmers. |
| 02:02.16 | Hachiman | They are a desert nation |
| 02:02.17 | Hachiman | I doubt it |
| 02:02.21 | Monet | Irrigation |
| 02:02.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Well you gotta feed all that people somehow |
| 02:02.30 | DrodoEmpire | Then herding, or intensive irrigation |
| 02:02.32 | Monet | Norias. |
| 02:02.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Plus they got territory outside of the desert |
| 02:02.39 | OluapPlayer_ | A lot of territory at that |
| 02:02.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:02.46 | DrodoEmpire | Some of that could be prime farmland |
| 02:02.56 | DrodoEmpire | Plus if they're wealthy they can trade for a lot of food |
| 02:03.01 | DrodoEmpire | That's what the Greeks did |
| 02:03.06 | OluapPlayer_ | That too |
| 02:03.16 | OluapPlayer_ | They're the cowardly merchants of the setting after all |
| 02:03.21 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait yes how they get food is an interesting question |
| 02:03.31 | DrodoEmpire | Then that'd be one of the primary methods I think Oluap |
| 02:03.31 | OluapPlayer_ | They eat sand |
| 02:03.34 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:03.36 | DrodoEmpire | Or that |
| 02:03.37 | OluapPlayer_ | as taught by Vixaatus |
| 02:03.38 | OluapPlayer_ | eet sand |
| 02:03.40 | DrodoEmpire | Nutritious stuff snad |
| 02:03.42 | DrodoEmpire | *sand |
| 02:03.44 | DrodoEmpire | snad is too |
| 02:03.47 | ImpyDroid | If they are like Arabs they likely have oasis cities or something |
| 02:03.56 | ImpyDroid | Find oasis, make farms there |
| 02:04.00 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:04.03 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 02:04.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Probably. Making a city in the middle of nowhere is probably not a good idea |
| 02:04.14 | DrodoEmpire | Or have most of the population centered around the coast or rivers |
| 02:04.18 | ImpyDroid | Or if they are like Egyptians or Mesopotamians... actually wait |
| 02:04.19 | Monet | Or I remember the Sohet built a vast network of tunnels under the desert |
| 02:04.26 | ImpyDroid | Does the Sea of Sand have rivers |
| 02:04.32 | DrodoEmpire | Look at Egypt for example; 99% of its population is centered around the Nile |
| 02:04.33 | OluapPlayer_ | It should have |
| 02:04.49 | DrodoEmpire | The surrounding desert's empty space |
| 02:04.50 | Monet | Subterranian aueducts perhaps? |
| 02:04.53 | Monet | aqueducts* |
| 02:04.58 | Hachiman | Probably |
| 02:05.00 | ImpyDroid | Monet: That's what Alhassal has |
| 02:05.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Well the Merovar don't have full control of the Sohet tunnels |
| 02:05.20 | OluapPlayer_ | They're fighting over control of those with the Khaepsha-ultan and the Exosubstratal |
| 02:05.23 | ImpyDroid | They have aqueducts and dig the water from the earrh |
| 02:05.37 | Monet | No but given the scope even partial control could give them an adge in buildin their cities |
| 02:06.01 | Monet | So they're essentialyl fighting the Khaepsha-ultan for water. |
| 02:06.14 | ImpyDroid | Grimdark that is |
| 02:06.18 | Monet | Well maybe not jsut that |
| 02:06.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Water, territory, the fact they're violent slavers |
| 02:06.28 | Hachiman | There is also the fact that Khaepsha-ultan are slavers |
| 02:06.34 | OluapPlayer_ | i jus sed dat |
| 02:06.37 | OluapPlayer_ | pay attention u |
| 02:06.41 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 02:06.42 | Hachiman | fuk off cunt |
| 02:06.52 | Monet | ImpyDroid: GRimdark to us maritimers who live in climates wehre water falls fro mthe sky once every week. |
| 02:07.25 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Only *once* every week? :p |
| 02:07.32 | DrodoEmpire | Can we trade places? |
| 02:07.33 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.40 | DrodoEmpire | That's also a possibility |
| 02:07.44 | ImpyDroid | And the Khep foo |
| 02:07.45 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Depends on the time of year really |
| 02:07.46 | ImpyDroid | too |
| 02:07.47 | DrodoEmpire | Herding's good for arid locations |
| 02:07.55 | OluapPlayer_ | Well, considering the Merovar are carnivores |
| 02:07.58 | ImpyDroid | Considering they are both carnivorous |
| 02:08.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Planting stuff only serves to feed the animals |
| 02:08.02 | ImpyDroid | Dammit ninjad |
| 02:08.05 | OluapPlayer_ | hon |
| 02:08.11 | Monet | Sand Draonoggr - Don't u dare |
| 02:08.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Merovar - nutricious dragon meat tho |
| 02:08.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Granted there's more than just Merovar in the Dynasty |
| 02:08.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oluap: If any savannah or brushlands exist those'd be good places for herding definitely |
| 02:08.42 | OluapPlayer_ | So they do plant plants for themselves |
| 02:08.57 | DrodoEmpire | It'd also mean you don't need to grow crops to feed the animals with |
| 02:09.09 | Monet | Sand Draonoggr - Dun't care, dunt want you eating my grandfather because he's fat. |
| 02:09.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Merovar are secretly cannibals and go around kidnapping people to eat them |
| 02:09.54 | Hachiman | Considering they are salamander lizard reptile things |
| 02:09.57 | ImpyDroid | Actually imagine the animals Merovar would eat |
| 02:09.59 | Hachiman | That would not surprise me |
| 02:10.00 | Monet | I think it might be the case of the Khaepsha-ultan where they occasionally get angry sand Draos burning down slaver camps. |
| 02:10.05 | ImpyDroid | Salamanders |
| 02:10.06 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 02:10.11 | ImpyDroid | Giant insects |
| 02:10.13 | OluapPlayer_ | They're not salamanders |
| 02:10.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Theyre lizards |
| 02:10.24 | ImpyDroid | Still giant insecte |
| 02:10.30 | ImpyDroid | insects |
| 02:10.33 | ImpyDroid | For food |
| 02:10.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Merovar - tasty cockroach |
| 02:10.51 | Monet | Well, either slaver camps or 'Ultan towns because don't fuck with angry dragons. |
| 02:10.55 | OluapPlayer_ | That's probably the only time I'll ever say that |
| 02:11.04 | Hachiman | They could also use insects to find water sources |
| 02:11.20 | OluapPlayer_ | I imagine the Khaepsha have good enough equipment to deal with humanoid dragons |
| 02:11.24 | Monet | Merovar could eat chocolate covered giant scorpion. |
| 02:11.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Considering the Sea of Sand also has giant wyverns who occasionally attack people |
| 02:11.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Dune Orc - THOSE ARE OUR HORSES |
| 02:12.10 | Monet | http://www.channel4.com/media/images/Channel4/4Food/week_one_new/unusual/sub/unusual_sub_02_A1.jpg yummy |
| 02:12.11 | Hachiman | Oh yeah, I forgot Dune Orcs ride scorpions |
| 02:12.19 | DrodoEmpire | Gonna discon soon probably |
| 02:12.29 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, nevermind |
| 02:12.32 | ImpyDroid | Well Kazakhs eat horses and drink horse milk |
| 02:12.39 | ImpyDroid | So it kinda makes sense |
| 02:12.39 | OluapPlayer_ | I suppose some of the scorpions could be used for consumption |
| 02:12.42 | OluapPlayer_ | How tasty they are is another story |
| 02:12.48 | Hachiman | And so do Brits hur |
| 02:12.59 | ImpyDroid | Ah yes hur |
| 02:13.25 | Monet | Ha-ha-ha very funny. Jokeso n you because I don't buy from Asda or Tesco. |
| 02:13.49 | OluapPlayer_ | When they get the chance they also eat Alhassal's elephants |
| 02:13.49 | Hachiman | I did not expect you to buy from Morrisons |
| 02:13.50 | ImpyDroid | Farming big snakes for holy feasts |
| 02:13.53 | OluapPlayer_ | because fuk u humans |
| 02:13.54 | Monet | ...then again I live in Kent. And my university has an Equestrian Science course... |
| 02:13.55 | ImpyDroid | Holy snake |
| 02:14.09 | Monet | Hachiman: My gran does. |
| 02:14.45 | ImpyDroid | Alhassal - WE'LL EAT YOUR ALMOHONIUM FOR THAT |
| 02:14.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Almonohuim - bruh |
| 02:14.45 | Hachiman | I thought you'd not shop at Morrisons because it is a lower-middle class supermarket |
| 02:14.59 | Monet | Coruse not. |
| 02:15.01 | Monet | I shop at Sainsbury's |
| 02:15.09 | OluapPlayer_ | That'd probably be a good scene |
| 02:15.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Sand Drake vs Elephant |
| 02:15.27 | ImpyDroid | Yeah |
| 02:15.33 | Hachiman | Eh I dunno, I have seen eagles carry off goats with ease |
| 02:15.44 | OluapPlayer_ | mheeeee |
| 02:15.44 | Hachiman | A Sand Drake could probably do that to an elephant in the same vein |
| 02:15.52 | Monet | Sand Drake vs burning Elephant |
| 02:15.54 | OluapPlayer_ | I mean on the ground |
| 02:16.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Obviously a flying Sand Drake can just sand-breath the elephant to death |
| 02:16.09 | Monet | Whose tusks are drenched in dwarf blood |
| 02:16.10 | Hachiman | Yes but why would a dragon attack from the ground if it has wings hur |
| 02:16.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Because the humans who own the elephant managed to floor it |
| 02:16.40 | Hachiman | Then the dragon is not doing it's job properly as Panda would say hur |
| 02:16.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Good thing I don't care for what Panda says then hur |
| 02:17.04 | ImpyDroid | But elephant has cannons |
| 02:17.16 | OluapPlayer_ | And Sand Drake has force breath |
| 02:17.23 | OluapPlayer_ | That's practically a cannon |
| 02:17.26 | ImpyDroid | Hur |
| 02:17.51 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of food there should totally be this http://img07.rl0.ru/eda/c300x300/s1.afisha-eda.ru/Photos/140518204129-140522192729-p-O-ferganskij-plov.jpg in Koldenwelt |
| 02:18.02 | OluapPlayer_ | What's that? |
| 02:18.04 | ImpyDroid | Maybe in the Dynasty or Alhassal |
| 02:18.26 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: Plov |
| 02:18.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Never heard of |
| 02:18.50 | ImpyDroid | Of course, it is a Central Asian thing |
| 02:19.06 | Monet | Om nom nom |
| 02:19.09 | Monet | Actually I had a thought |
| 02:19.35 | ImpyDroid | My relatives from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan cook it |
| 02:19.43 | Monet | If Klaxxa are British dragons, do they have strong trade ocnnections beyond the Eastern mountains? |
| 02:20.09 | ImpyDroid | It is basically rice boiled in some spicy thing + some carrots + |
| 02:20.11 | ImpyDroid | meat |
| 02:20.18 | Hachiman | Not really considering nobody can get past the eastern mountains hur |
| 02:20.28 | OluapPlayer_ | remove the carrots and sounds good to me |
| 02:20.29 | Hachiman | Great Eastern Wall and all that |
| 02:20.38 | DrodoEmpire | Halifaxian - ima sail around it |
| 02:20.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Well those are not the only mountains in the east |
| 02:20.42 | Monet | The Klaxxa have airships though |
| 02:20.57 | Monet | OluapPLayer_: U no like carrots? |
| 02:20.58 | Hachiman | They can only go so high |
| 02:21.02 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't |
| 02:21.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Ar-Klith is an eastern mountain range |
| 02:21.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: How tall is this wall? |
| 02:21.16 | Monet | Aww |
| 02:21.16 | OluapPlayer_ | Therefore they count as eastern mountains |
| 02:21.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Very tall |
| 02:21.27 | Monet | Carrots are 3> |
| 02:21.28 | Monet | whoos] |
| 02:21.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Tall as in "we deliberately don't go in detail of what's on the other side" |
| 02:21.47 | Monet | Carrots are <3 |
| 02:21.56 | Monet | Although now that I think about it, 3> looks like a guy going "mmmm" |
| 02:22.10 | Hachiman | Tall enough to be considered impassable by the current highest tech tier on Koldenwelt |
| 02:22.47 | Monet | Klaxxa - Where do we get tea then? |
| 02:23.01 | OluapPlayer_ | From inside their tophats |
| 02:23.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Alternatively, they sweat tea |
| 02:23.08 | ImpyDroid | I am not sure how it happens but this rice actually has a taste |
| 02:23.19 | ImpyDroid | Like an actual taste |
| 02:23.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Klaxxa sell their own sweat to people, that's canon now |
| 02:23.43 | Hachiman | As in, rice without needing sauce? |
| 02:24.29 | Monet | Klaxxa could Have delicacies-that-are totally-not-played-of-as-some-other-country's-invention. |
| 02:24.56 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Yes essentially |
| 02:25.00 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 02:25.12 | Monet | Magic rice! |
| 02:25.14 | ImpyDroid | I do add a little bit of sauce but it is not necessary, it has a strong taste by itself |
| 02:25.30 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait do you actually eat rice with sauce |
| 02:25.32 | Hachiman | I always have lots of sauce with my rice |
| 02:25.39 | Monet | MIND. BLOWN. |
| 02:26.01 | Hachiman | Not like ketchup or shit like that, but like curry sauce |
| 02:26.05 | ImpyDroid | I almost never do unless it is in the form of plov |
| 02:26.10 | OluapPlayer_ | saas |
| 02:26.15 | ImpyDroid | I just eat rice with something else |
| 02:26.17 | Monet | I tend to mix it in with whatever I'm eating. |
| 02:26.27 | OluapPlayer_ | rice and beans |
| 02:26.27 | ImpyDroid | ^ Monet does it right |
| 02:26.34 | ImpyDroid | Or carrots |
| 02:26.37 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: augh you're one of those people |
| 02:26.43 | DrodoEmpire | I hate doing that. >.< |
| 02:26.56 | ImpyDroid | Monet is officially an honorary Asian |
| 02:27.00 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't like any kind of vegetable in my good |
| 02:27.02 | OluapPlayer_ | food even |
| 02:27.06 | Monet | I am? |
| 02:27.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Well, except rice and beans, these come from plants |
| 02:27.19 | Hachiman | Cover rice with sauce -> mix the sauce and the rice with chips or beans -> |
| 02:27.23 | Monet | But vegetables make you stronk. |
| 02:27.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Meat makes you stronker |
| 02:27.56 | Hachiman | I am probably disgusting because I tend to mix sauces |
| 02:27.58 | Monet | U need Green Giant in Brazil. |
| 02:27.59 | Monet | Green Giant sweetcorn makes you stronk |
| 02:28.08 | ImpyDroid | Bare rice + kimchi |
| 02:28.28 | ImpyDroid | Or rice in water + potatoes with meat |
| 02:28.40 | OluapPlayer_ | Corn |
| 02:28.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Ngh |
| 02:28.53 | DrodoEmpire | wot |
| 02:28.56 | Hachiman | I mix curry sauce and sweet-and-sour sauce and then mix that into the rice which I then eat with chips or mushrooms when I am eating East Asian |
| 02:29.07 | Monet | Sweetcorn is lush |
| 02:29.12 | DrodoEmpire | I used to hate corn when I was like five Oluap, *now* I like it |
| 02:29.14 | ImpyDroid | Mushrooms work good |
| 02:29.15 | DrodoEmpire | step your game up |
| 02:29.18 | DrodoEmpire | 3:< |
| 02:29.26 | OluapPlayer_ | how bout no |
| 02:29.28 | ImpyDroid | Do Brazilians eat a lot of corn? |
| 02:29.30 | Monet | Eating chips with Asian food. |
| 02:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | D:< |
| 02:29.37 | Monet | Why |
| 02:29.40 | OluapPlayer_ | I didn't like corn when I was 5, I don't like corn now |
| 02:29.40 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Multiculturalism |
| 02:29.54 | Hachiman | Because Asians make good chips and they go well with East Asian sauces |
| 02:30.17 | Monet | Not those greasy takeway chips right? |
| 02:30.19 | ImpyDroid | Monet: My sister's babysitter apparently used to add rice to borscht |
| 02:30.22 | Hachiman | Maybe |
| 02:30.32 | Hachiman | I am middle class, what do you expect of me |
| 02:30.35 | Monet | Every child goes though a stage where vegetables are yucky. |
| 02:30.40 | OluapPlayer_ | My family from my father's half are notorious carnivores |
| 02:30.43 | OluapPlayer_ | I inherited their taste in food |
| 02:30.49 | ImpyDroid | Borsch |
| 02:30.53 | Hachiman | I thought you said "taste in blood" for a moment |
| 02:31.00 | Monet | Hachiman: I can never finish a bag of chips fro ma chinese takeway but will ahppily eat a full portion of chips form a Chippy. |
| 02:31.00 | ImpyDroid | You know that Russian red-purple soup |
| 02:31.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Human flesh also counts as meat so |
| 02:31.20 | Hachiman | I can do both hur |
| 02:31.46 | Monet | Chinese takeaway chips jsut taste too oily for me. |
| 02:32.01 | Hachiman | I like Chinese takeaway chips |
| 02:32.04 | ImpyDroid | What is the staple of Brazilian food actually |
| 02:32.11 | ImpyDroid | Like rice or potatoes or what |
| 02:32.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Uh |
| 02:32.21 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd say it's rice with beans |
| 02:32.28 | Hachiman | Monkey food |
| 02:32.57 | OluapPlayer_ | That's like the traditional low-middle-class lunch and dinner |
| 02:33.00 | DrodoEmpire | thatsracist?.gif |
| 02:33.38 | ImpyDroid | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Rice_and_beans%2C_Hotel_in_Itatiaia.jpeg/800px-Rice_and_beans%2C_Hotel_in_Itatiaia.jpeg looks okay |
| 02:33.44 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
| 02:33.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah that |
| 02:34.01 | ImpyDroid | Russians have that awful awful thing, I think I showed it to you once |
| 02:34.21 | ImpyDroid | It is basically rice-like but harder and less wet and brown |
| 02:34.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Add some beef to it and you got yourself a meal |
| 02:34.40 | Monet | Do russians have anything like Mulled wine? |
| 02:34.43 | Hachiman | Those beans look raw |
| 02:34.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Though I prefer pasta to rice. Pasta with beans, or pasta with ground meat |
| 02:34.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Especially pasta with ground meat |
| 02:34.54 | Hachiman | What is it with Brazilian beans looking absolutely awful |
| 02:34.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Best food ever |
| 02:35.06 | OluapPlayer_ | With is with you looking like a hobo |
| 02:35.11 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.37 | Monet | That looks nice |
| 02:36.01 | Hachiman | Take out the leaf and dampen the rice with some sauce or something |
| 02:36.10 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Veronica tried to brew one for me several times |
| 02:36.15 | Monet | What's wrong with a garnish? |
| 02:36.20 | OluapPlayer_ | That's rice? |
| 02:36.27 | OluapPlayer_ | It looks like aquarium sand |
| 02:36.27 | Hachiman | Otherwise you are just eating dry rice and some random plant leaves |
| 02:36.28 | ImpyDroid | No that isn't |
| 02:36.38 | ImpyDroid | It is some other thing that kinda looks like rice |
| 02:36.52 | Monet | Hachi: U uncultured swine getting rid of the garnish. |
| 02:36.56 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.09 | Hachiman | Why the fuck would I eat garnish |
| 02:37.13 | OluapPlayer_ | http://wp.clicrbs.com.br/diariosdebrasilia/files/2010/04/arroz.jpg nom |
| 02:37.24 | Hachiman | >black beans |
| 02:37.26 | Hachiman | What the FUCK |
| 02:37.31 | OluapPlayer_ | quit ur racist |
| 02:37.33 | OluapPlayer_ | racism even |
| 02:37.38 | DrodoEmpire | thatsracist.gif |
| 02:37.45 | Monet | Hachiman: If you mix it in it adds flavour. |
| 02:38.06 | Hachiman | I cannot mix in garnish, it is not a sauce |
| 02:38.09 | OluapPlayer_ | http://formasaudavel.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/feijao-preto.jpg apply yourself |
| 02:38.20 | Hachiman | Ech |
| 02:38.26 | DrodoEmpire | D:< |
| 02:38.26 | Hachiman | Those look dangerous |
| 02:38.30 | Monet | OluapPLayer: THose black beans are kidney beans right? |
| 02:38.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Uh |
| 02:38.38 | DrodoEmpire | *African-american beans |
| 02:38.43 | OluapPlayer_ | We just call them beans |
| 02:38.46 | Hachiman | They do not look like kidney beans to me |
| 02:38.47 | Monet | Ah no, sorry |
| 02:38.49 | ImpyDroid | Tolerant beans |
| 02:38.54 | Hachiman | Afrocentrist beans |
| 02:39.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Dundi nuffin bean |
| 02:39.04 | Monet | WHen cooked they sort-of did. |
| 02:39.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Dindu* |
| 02:39.11 | DrodoEmpire | They were the first beans in Britain, don't you know. |
| 02:39.14 | Monet | Also that meal looks very British |
| 02:39.17 | ImpyDroid | WE WUZ BEANS AND SHIET |
| 02:39.22 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 02:39.52 | ImpyDroid | Monet Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://cs618216.vk.me/v618216191/c81c/1vMVXRD8_A4.jpg Now that'd be my average lunch |
| 02:40.06 | Monet | An upturned tub of rice, steak, chips and beans. |
| 02:40.06 | ImpyDroid | That or something Russian |
| 02:40.15 | Hachiman | That black stuff better not be a dog |
| 02:40.27 | OluapPlayer_ | wats dat watery thing |
| 02:40.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Looks like old people soup |
| 02:40.49 | Monet | I was going to say it looks like watery rice pudding |
| 02:40.55 | ImpyDroid | That is literally just rice in water |
| 02:40.56 | DrodoEmpire | *PENSIONER SOUP |
| 02:40.58 | Monet | ...its stil lrice isn't it |
| 02:41.05 | OluapPlayer_ | But why would you do that |
| 02:41.06 | DrodoEmpire | Be PC bro |
| 02:41.07 | OluapPlayer_ | This kills the rice |
| 02:41.23 | Monet | "Rice in water" |
| 02:41.25 | Hachiman | Rice needs sauce |
| 02:41.26 | Monet | Soudns like a student recipe |
| 02:41.39 | Hachiman | Rice is bland and tasteless, water is bland and tasteless |
| 02:41.46 | Hachiman | These things do not counteract each other |
| 02:41.58 | Monet | Imperios: Chat's the yellow things? |
| 02:41.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Putting water in cooked rice makes it disgusting |
| 02:42.00 | DrodoEmpire | They blend all too well. <.< |
| 02:42.05 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Behold the power of Kimchi |
| 02:42.28 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: It is boiled |
| 02:42.57 | Monet | This just reminds me of that favourite of student recipies: The fish finger sarnie. |
| 02:43.05 | ImpyDroid | Monet: the orange is bread |
| 02:43.10 | ImpyDroid | &yellow |
| 02:43.16 | ImpyDroid | The orange is kimchi |
| 02:43.20 | Hachiman | Fish fingers are good but I prefer actual battered fish |
| 02:43.36 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:43.38 | Monet | Hachiman: I mean the yellow bits in the soup |
| 02:43.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Not a fan of sea food of any kind |
| 02:43.55 | Monet | ImpyDroid: I mean the yellow bits in the soup |
| 02:44.07 | Hachiman | >not liking fish |
| 02:44.11 | Hachiman | Get the fuck off my planet monkey |
| 02:44.13 | Monet | Squid tastes surprisingly nice. |
| 02:44.15 | DrodoEmpire | I *love* seafood. :D |
| 02:44.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Go brush your teeth you fetid entity |
| 02:44.23 | ImpyDroid | Overcooked rice I think |
| 02:44.30 | Hachiman | f-fug |
| 02:44.36 | Hachiman | I love seafood# |
| 02:44.38 | DrodoEmpire | One of my favourite things is a lobster |
| 02:44.40 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: The black stuff is eggplants |
| 02:44.41 | Hachiman | I can never get anough of it |
| 02:44.48 | Monet | ...hands up who imagined me eating squd. |
| 02:44.52 | OluapPlayer_ | It's strange. There used to be a time where I liked fish, but now I can't stand the taste of it |
| 02:44.54 | Hachiman | I have eaten squid |
| 02:45.04 | DrodoEmpire | I also really like clams or anything like that |
| 02:45.07 | Hachiman | I have eaten three kinds of squid dish even |
| 02:45.09 | DrodoEmpire | Though I've tried squid |
| 02:45.10 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: >don't like seafood >don't like water in rice http://ifs.cook-time.com/preview/img718/718030.jpg |
| 02:45.15 | Monet | Mussles |
| 02:45.22 | OluapPlayer_ | eugh |
| 02:45.23 | DrodoEmpire | And to be honest I dunno if I have any interest in eating it |
| 02:45.25 | ImpyDroid | Have more kimchivodka food |
| 02:45.26 | OluapPlayer_ | dats scary |
| 02:45.29 | Hachiman | I have also eaten mussles with pasta |
| 02:45.32 | Monet | Yum |
| 02:45.37 | DrodoEmpire | I usually stick to the more god-fearing sort of seafood. <.< |
| 02:45.45 | ImpyDroid | Any exotic seafood is ew for me |
| 02:45.46 | DrodoEmpire | Mussles are good yeah |
| 02:45.55 | ImpyDroid | Seaweed and fish are good though |
| 02:45.58 | DrodoEmpire | I like to just eat them on their own as an appetizer |
| 02:46.05 | ImpyDroid | Crabs, shrimps, etc, not a fan |
| 02:46.07 | Monet | Crayfish is nice, bit sticky though. |
| 02:46.13 | Hachiman | Seaweed is pretty nice |
| 02:46.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:46.24 | Monet | I love shrimps and prawns |
| 02:46.39 | Hachiman | Shrimps and prawns are my FAVOURIIIITE |
| 02:47.16 | Monet | Yes. |
| 02:47.28 | Monet | I can't get enough |
| 02:47.30 | ImpyDroid | Anyone here likes noodles? |
| 02:47.37 | Monet | *raises hand* |
| 02:47.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:47.42 | Hachiman | Noodles are okay |
| 02:48.29 | ImpyDroid | http://cookmaster.org/uploads/posts/2014-05/1399540274_recept-kuksi-po-korejski.jpg Have some glorious Korean noodles |
| 02:48.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
| 02:49.05 | ImpyDroid | It is literally an entire dinner in one single bowl |
| 02:49.14 | OluapPlayer_ | remove vegetable |
| 02:49.51 | ImpyDroid | But then where do we have to put spices |
| 02:50.27 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait if you do not like vegetables and like beans |
| 02:50.30 | Monet | I'd eat that |
| 02:50.36 | ImpyDroid | http://pabi-muri.ru/images/tibi.jpg |
| 02:50.39 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.57 | Monet | That a cake? |
| 02:51.10 | Hachiman | Looks kinda nice |
| 02:51.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Looks too wet and pasty |
| 02:51.27 | Hachiman | Ngh all this talk is making me hungry again |
| 02:52.38 | ImpyDroid | That is tofu |
| 02:52.44 | ImpyDroid | Roasted tofu |
| 02:52.57 | ImpyDroid | Like think tofu but KFCd |
| 02:53.20 | Monet | Oh so that's tofu |
| 02:53.28 | Monet | Well, it is beans. |
| 02:53.33 | Hachiman | I thought tofu would look more bland |
| 02:53.36 | Hachiman | But that looks nice |
| 02:53.55 | Monet | Well it is KFC tofu |
| 02:54.06 | Monet | KFC-ish* |
| 02:54.23 | Monet | So presumably it looks nice because its been fried. |
| 02:54.24 | ImpyDroid | It does not taste bland with soy sauce |
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| 02:55.47 | OluapPlayer_ | http://puu.sh/msqcy.webm ONE MAN ARMY |
| 02:56.25 | Monet | "I'M A PORCUPINE" |
| 02:56.54 | Hachiman | Fucking rekt |
| 02:58.47 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod Rome II |
| 02:58.50 | DrodoEmpire | That game's hilarious |
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| 03:01.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 03:42.28 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 12:33.38 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:34.37 | Ghel | Hello. |
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| 12:36.08 | Hachiman | Hi Wormy |
| 12:36.57 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:37.43 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 12:38.48 | Wormy_ | I have finally got Volume 2 of Assimilation2, wherethe Borg meet the Cybermen and the Doctor joins forces with the Enterprise D (there is also the 4th Doctor meeting TOS Enterprise) |
| 12:39.38 | Wormy_ | There needs to be more crossovers like this,. |
| 12:42.15 | Wormy_ | Manatees are no longer endangered, apparentely https://twitter.com/Fascinatingpics/status/686820173542735872 |
| 12:44.08 | Hachiman | That is good news |
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| 13:13.02 | OluapPlayer | Wormy_ Ghel: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Terraforming_Stage Is this familiar to you? I don't recall a stage like this ever being mentioned before |
| 13:13.44 | Wormy_ | Nope, don't remember it, nor is there any references. |
| 13:13.58 | Ghel | It seems vaguely familiar to me, but I don't remember anything certainly official. |
| 13:14.17 | Wormy_ | Might be worth asking the user where he/she got it from. |
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| 13:55.00 | Wormy_ | some fuck head spoiled Fallout 4 for me. Seriously why does Youtube still but disliked comments on the top of the page? 0 thumbs up, probably many thumbs down |
| 13:55.09 | Wormy_ | *put |
| 13:57.15 | Tek0516 | Because YouTube comments are bumb |
| 13:57.19 | Tek0516 | *dumb |
| 13:58.10 | OluapPlayer | People are going to talk about the game in a game's video |
| 13:58.46 | Wormy_ | All I did was scroll slightly down the page, and some-one in the top comments spoilled it on purpose and took joy at mocking people |
| 13:58.59 | Wormy_ | *someone |
| 14:09.14 | Hachiman | Hai again |
| 14:12.49 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 14:24.45 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452604220678.jpg |
| 14:25.01 | Hachiman | hur |
| 14:25.03 | Hachiman | I remember this |
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| 14:25.54 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 14:36.01 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/4fU1R5T.png |
| 14:36.50 | Wormy_ | Trial by combat http://i.imgur.com/fGT77T3.jpg |
| 14:38.46 | Wormy_ | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Doritos+i+wish+i+was+there_de67d7_4631542.jpg |
| 14:40.40 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Spiders are French https://twitter.com/newscientist/status/686919341498068995 |
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| 14:53.26 | Hachiman | Hi |
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| 15:42.31 | Wormy_ | My brain went Alien > Fox > Cat > Dog http://imgur.com/gallery/mMZrcvr |
| 15:43.45 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/29TFqGz |
| 16:18.41 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: Is the Cobalt Kingdom still meant to be villains or did you change that? |
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| 16:27.31 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Yeah they still are |
| 16:27.40 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452610288799.gif |
| 16:29.54 | OluapPlayer | Xacutus's inspiration had him having a debt to pay with an old king he once befriended |
| 16:30.21 | OluapPlayer | I was thinking, since Xacutus became a pyromancer while in the Cobalt Kingdom, he could have some debt to pay with the Ordnung king |
| 16:30.42 | OluapPlayer | Which means they could get the Vulcanus Horde as allies |
| 16:31.07 | Wormy_ | Think I've developed RSI or something like it in my hand. I might have to take a wikibreak, a game break, and just use the computer for working. Maybe I'll access here from my phone |
| 16:31.55 | Wormy_ | My joints in the mouse hands were hurting, now that has stopped, but my fingers keep locking up |
| 16:32.07 | Wormy_ | *mouse hand |
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| 16:32.56 | Wormy_ | It is treated with injections and I don't like the sound of that |
| 16:33.13 | Wormy_ | bye |
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| 17:06.52 | Ghel | Hello. |
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| 17:09.25 | OluapPlayer | WAPTOR |
| 17:09.31 | OluapPlayer | ~glomp Cyrannian |
| 17:09.32 | infobot | ACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps Cyrannian |
| 17:09.41 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 17:09.46 | Cyrannian | ~slap OluapPlayer |
| 17:09.47 | infobot | ACTION slaps OluapPlayer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:09.47 | OluapPlayer | I was worried about you |
| 17:10.15 | Cyrannian | Came down with a bad headache on Saturday and was having trouble sleeping, feeling a bit better now |
| 17:10.23 | OluapPlayer | That's it |
| 17:10.31 | OluapPlayer | You had that then suddenly vanished for days |
| 17:10.38 | OluapPlayer | It got me worried |
| 17:11.25 | Cyrannian | d'aww It was probably because I spent all the previous week studying and shiet |
| 17:12.34 | OluapPlayer | u stop leaving pls |
| 17:12.54 | Cyrannian | hur I'll try |
| 17:13.48 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s1bhhQdhzM |
| 17:15.08 | OluapPlayer | "my people call it gae" |
| 17:15.10 | OluapPlayer | My sides |
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| 17:52.01 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452616289842.png |
| 17:52.29 | ImpyDroid | wait wrong pic, disregard that |
| 18:04.15 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452610360326.jpg |
| 18:04.48 | OluapPlayer | hur |
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| 18:09.10 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Tyranus - Kinda sort of updated |
| 18:10.31 | ImpyDroid | For some reason I imagine he will still follow his own agenda |
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| 18:15.39 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 18:17.14 | Xho | u |
| 18:18.24 | Xho | Is anyone able to do Eschaton stoof |
| 18:18.56 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 18:21.20 | Xho | Well I found the right Titanpad |
| 18:21.29 | Xho | Got so many Titanpad links |
| 18:25.39 | Xho | https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 |
| 18:26.17 | Hachiman | In a bit, I gotta have dinner soon I think |
| 18:44.23 | Xho | I do wonder what other characters could've been used for the dream sequences |
| 18:44.44 | Xho | Mhor, Esulus and Riad are probably the only other three characters I could have used |
| 18:45.06 | Xho | The rest have all had their personal slice of death or have had Caligaduro inside of their heads |
| 18:45.50 | Xho | Khaadun however, mainly because he's not all there in the head to begin with |
| 18:48.40 | OluapPlayer | Weren't there decided chars already? |
| 18:48.54 | Xho | There are |
| 18:48.57 | Xho | Just ruminating |
| 18:49.39 | Xho | Longinus saw a good five thousand years of hellish motherfuckery so entering his mind would be a dangerous shitstorm of war |
| 18:49.58 | Xho | Septimus got an eye-load of Caligaduro himself so his brain's a bit frazzled |
| 18:50.34 | Xho | Taihadrae's technically dead, Ndrhthryr I can't really explain why not |
| 18:50.48 | Xho | Pelagrios due to the Shard |
| 18:52.59 | Xho | I suppose Khaadun due to the fact he's in constant interaction with other souls, it has affected his own so he is partially some kind of hybridised undead guy |
| 18:53.35 | OluapPlayer | Wearing dead people doesn't make you dead hur |
| 18:53.45 | Xho | Khaadun - tribal magic primitive stoof |
| 18:54.34 | Xho | But yeah the magic that Khaadun uses and is adorned in has affected his psychology/biology |
| 18:54.45 | Xho | What with blue skin and glowy eyes |
| 18:55.07 | Xho | Partially undead probably isn't as good as a description as 'no longer human' is |
| 18:57.03 | Xho | If he was fully absorbed into his magic he'd be like some sort of wraith |
| 18:57.18 | OluapPlayer | ur bad at explainin |
| 18:57.20 | OluapPlayer | bad at life |
| 18:57.28 | Xho | liek u |
| 18:57.30 | Xho | hivemind fails |
| 18:57.57 | Xho | The fact that's he's human and then he's using celestial magic |
| 18:58.05 | Xho | There's not much hope for his body |
| 19:05.14 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/Djentlemen/posts/10154485259262067 My sides |
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| 19:06.56 | OluapPlayer | Poor guy will get his own Oscar one day |
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| 19:23.49 | Hachiman | Right I'm back |
| 19:24.13 | Hachiman | Honestly I feel like that Eirik was not really an optimal choice for mind exploration considering he was only just introduced into the story |
| 19:24.46 | Hachiman | Nd would probably be a better fit |
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| 19:28.30 | OluapPlayer | Xho: blah do stoof |
| 19:28.39 | Xho | u do stoof |
| 19:28.57 | OluapPlayer | rite then |
| 19:29.00 | OluapPlayer | xacutus kills everyone |
| 19:29.04 | OluapPlayer | this is now a xacutus story |
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| 19:29.45 | Xho | dai |
| 19:37.34 | Xho | 10/10 titanpad go fuck yourself with a cactus |
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| 20:15.39 | Xho | Technobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12552717_10154465743688574_6366680820473113300_n.png?oh=25ab050bb63dacbc7a999d03692411c9&oe=56FE2187 |
| 20:15.59 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 20:16.01 | Technobliterator | it's true |
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| 20:38.38 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent.fyhz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12508814_1295625693797990_8333782317664257822_n.png?oh=37138c4a48c1bdfbc58e2d2ba42af97b&oe=5741549A - ayy lmao |
| 20:42.32 | OluapPlayer | pretty little reapers |
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| 20:47.14 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 20:47.33 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 20:47.52 | Wormydroid | I'm changing how I internets for a while until my hand tendons get better. |
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| 21:00.05 | Wormydroid | Hachiman, Ghelae Derren Brown has a show about to start on Channel 4 where he gets an ordinary man to push another off a roof |
| 21:00.26 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
| 21:02.07 | Wormydroid | Indeed |
| 21:02.51 | Wormydroid | Also Walking the Himalayas is good |
| 21:04.10 | DrodoEmpire | Actually I imagine that might not be very safe |
| 21:05.44 | OluapPlayer | this kills the man |
| 21:05.59 | Wormydroid | His shows have an edge of danger. one with Russisn Roulette was made in Germany |
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| 21:11.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hi\ |
| 21:11.29 | Monet | hi |
| 21:13.10 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 21:13.24 | Ghel | Wormydroid: Well. I don't imagine that's the strangest thing he's done. |
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| 21:29.34 | Wormydroid | Test |
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| 21:51.56 | Wormydroid | Drodoempire They got him to put an actor who faked his death into a crate, unknown to him, so far |
| 21:52.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 21:52.51 | Wormydroid | They are using gradually escqlatibg social compliance to pursaude him to do more and more bizzare things in a stahed charity auction event |
| 21:53.22 | Wormydroid | The show about manipulating a man to murder |
| 21:53.26 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 21:58.12 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12400890_10209127417889679_2087419442314523551_n.jpg?oh=0df81cccb4162e6276a784f38333747e&oe=57431A17 kitteh |
| 21:58.24 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 21:59.06 | OluapPlayer | big i's |
| 22:01.57 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Darkest_Before_Dawn#The_Journey_of_the_Mind |
| 22:02.00 | Xho | inception-liek |
| 22:02.42 | OluapPlayer | it wus all a dreeeeeem |
| 22:02.52 | Xho | F5 pls |
| 22:04.14 | OluapPlayer | Page needs a war/story template |
| 22:04.33 | Xho | aye |
| 22:11.32 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Darkest_Before_Dawn box added |
| 22:12.11 | OluapPlayer | The mighty box |
| 22:12.25 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12523087_942300889187865_4738247684489750646_n.jpg?oh=904a26084827fbb062a36e3b9282408a&oe=5743DBEC Prepare to laugh |
| 22:12.36 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 22:13.06 | Xho | Funnily enough I saw that on Facebook |
| 22:13.18 | Xho | I have a very weird Facebook feed |
| 22:13.23 | Xho | I get SFM vids on my feed |
| 22:13.37 | Xho | I feel kind of snobbish as I saw these months or even years before they even appear |
| 22:13.48 | OluapPlayer | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYi7b9TWYAAefFn.png meanwhile at TF2 |
| 22:14.18 | Xho | HOH |
| 22:15.13 | OluapPlayer | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYilyvrWQAAsC-F.png |
| 22:15.24 | Xho | b-baka |
| 22:18.44 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Do you want to see something utterly terrifyng |
| 22:18.48 | Xho | terrifying |
| 22:18.55 | OluapPlayer | Might as well |
| 22:18.59 | Xho | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/608350301016172398/C1F507D60FEE5873F66C5D3F85DF60CDCF216EF2/ |
| 22:19.34 | OluapPlayer | I'M GOING BACK TO THE CRY SLEEP |
| 22:19.37 | OluapPlayer | CRYO even |
| 22:20.11 | Xho | Cry sleep is more accurate I thin |
| 22:20.14 | Xho | think even |
| 22:30.36 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Twilight_of_the_Alliance - Take a look |
| 22:32.04 | OluapPlayer | Old fiction risen from the dead like a terrible zombie |
| 22:34.54 | Cyrannian | this reminds me, you could make a page for Mortalagueis if you're bored |
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| 22:45.43 | OluapPlayer | I will when he gets enough information to fill one |
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| 22:54.26 | Charles_Murray | Hey guys |
| 22:54.29 | Charles_Murray | Is this a good time? |
| 22:55.08 | Monet | It's an alright time |
| 22:55.39 | Charles_Murray | I'm launching this today : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Commonwealth_of_French_Andromeda/2805_Election |
| 22:56.53 | Charles_Murray | Essentially a prototype for involving fictions in the domestic elections of my fictions. French Andromeda is the leading player in the French Colonial Empire, a rising hyperpower, so I can imagine many fictions would be concerned about the outcome of French Andromeda's presidential election |
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| 22:57.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | Back, sorry |
| 22:57.20 | Charles_Murray | And the elections for its legislative body |
| 22:59.04 | Charles_Murray | Basically, I'm actively inviting every one of you guys to help determine the leader of one of my fictions for the next five to ten in-universe years. I worked hard on it, so check it out? ^.^ |
| 22:59.10 | Ghel | This reminds me of many years ago when people would announce their fictions' elections. Participation by other users was achieved simply by having them vote in a poll, and the most popular out-of-universe character was the one to be elected in-universe. |
| 22:59.21 | Ghel | What you're doing looks to be somewhat more realistic. |
| 23:00.08 | Charles_Murray | Yeah! I remember that, actually. |
| 23:00.17 | OluapPlayer | I vote for Gorf |
| 23:00.18 | OluapPlayer | Only wise choice |
| 23:00.44 | Charles_Murray | I tried to make it simple and easy to access and influence, but still possessing depth. The depth will be handled by me, so there's no need to worry about that :D |
| 23:01.07 | Monet | Gorf not running for president though |
| 23:01.15 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 23:01.20 | OluapPlayer | Nonsense, Gorf runs for president of every empire |
| 23:01.34 | Tek0516 | I'll probably include some Farengeto influence. |
| 23:01.43 | Monet | What about the empires that don't elect their leaders? |
| 23:01.53 | Charles_Murray | *everyone elects Gorf, Gorf crowns himself Emperor of the First Gigaquadrant* |
| 23:01.55 | OluapPlayer | In that case Gorf wins automatically |
| 23:01.58 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 23:01.58 | OluapPlayer | Hail Emperor Gorf |
| 23:02.19 | OluapPlayer | His rule is good, he sleeps all day and everything is peaceful |
| 23:02.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | Monet: He marries his way into the family, and waits decades for his chance to pounce and inherit the entire nation |
| 23:02.46 | DrodoEmpire_ | Turns out he's a machiavellian mastermind. |
| 23:02.57 | Charles_Murray | How to get involved: Post actions in the box at the bottom of the page, and/or add foreign organizations which will be operating in the political arena, championing a party, cause, or candidate |
| 23:03.32 | OluapPlayer | I have no involvement with Andromeda or the French outside of the Republic so I'll be staying out of it |
| 23:03.42 | Charles_Murray | You can also talk and influence the candidates themselves, donate to their campaigns (they'll owe you and could adopt a position friendly to your interests) |
| 23:03.42 | Monet | Never underestimate Gorf. |
| 23:03.55 | Charles_Murray | Or anything else I haven't thought of |
| 23:04.26 | Monet | This could be good for inter-empire relations. |
| 23:04.54 | Charles_Murray | It could also be good if you want your nations to flex its diplomatic muscles |
| 23:06.07 | Charles_Murray | OluapPlayer : I understand :( But this could be an opportunity to have your fictions try and make the Empire more like the Republic, if that's what they really want? |
| 23:06.14 | Charles_Murray | After all, the FCE is involved in Borealis |
| 23:06.36 | OluapPlayer | Eh I don't see how they'd do that |
| 23:06.49 | Ghel | I've often considered Apalos influencing nations' politics in secret/non-obvious ways. |
| 23:06.56 | OluapPlayer | The PCA has no strong opinion on them, the Indoc Collective would rather see them eradicated altogether |
| 23:07.48 | Monet | OluapPLayer: One of the parties wish to reform the FE to be like the Republic. |
| 23:08.23 | OluapPlayer | Publicly going around "we wish you were dead" is not a very smart thing to do |
| 23:08.35 | OluapPlayer | Unless you're the Corruptus, in that case they don't care |
| 23:08.38 | Charles_Murray | I'm not sure either because I don't know what you like about the Republic and dislike about the Empire (they're really similar when you get down to it), but you could throw a couple million in a currency to one campaign or another. French Andromeda (and the FCE) isn't one monolithic thing. There are places, people, and organizations that espouse similar to the French Republic. |
| 23:08.59 | OluapPlayer | Empire = enemies of the Civilisation = bad |
| 23:09.10 | OluapPlayer | Republic = not enemies = not bad |
| 23:09.14 | OluapPlayer | That's how it works |
| 23:09.46 | Charles_Murray | What of those who oppose the war in French Andromeda? |
| 23:09.57 | Cyrannian | Nightie night |
| 23:10.00 | Charles_Murray | Those guys lack organizing infrastructure and unity, but they exist |
| 23:10.15 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how the Indocs would be aware of their existence |
| 23:10.24 | OluapPlayer | Besides, I don't want involvement in the war |
| 23:11.43 | Charles_Murray | France is an open society, so information about its political system, social components, etc, is bound to be easily available everywhere. That, and liberals are bound to be grasping for whatever allies they can get |
| 23:11.49 | Charles_Murray | And this has very little to do with the war |
| 23:11.56 | Charles_Murray | But alright |
| 23:13.21 | Charles_Murray | Ghel I could help with that |
| 23:14.24 | Ghel | I do have some vague ideas, although it's a little too late at night for me to be coming up with real details. |
| 23:14.50 | Charles_Murray | Alright, cool |
| 23:15.00 | Charles_Murray | I worked really hard on this, so I hope people will get involved |
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| 23:16.29 | OluapPlayer | Yick |
| 23:16.32 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYi0nVVWAAAXps8.jpg SHUT |
| 23:16.40 | Xho | lyl |
| 23:20.04 | Xho | I did have an idea for a Fictionverse story |
| 23:20.06 | Xho | Kicath-based |
| 23:20.19 | Xho | Not something I've done before actually |
| 23:20.37 | OluapPlayer | Elaborate |
| 23:21.17 | Monet | I'm interested |
| 23:21.28 | Xho | It's like one of those solo stories I do in the Fantasyverse, but it's some sort of detective-themed story |
| 23:21.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh cool |
| 23:22.51 | OluapPlayer | finish Dragon Speaker grrrr |
| 23:23.03 | Xho | FIEN GRRRR |
| 23:24.16 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxJX7bz0BU also this |
| 23:24.42 | Xho | life |
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| 23:31.22 | Xho | OluapPlayer: dat new avatar tho |
| 23:31.43 | OluapPlayer | show me ya moves |
| 23:36.27 | Monet | Xho: I'm interested in this detective story idea |
| 23:36.54 | Xho | Might give me a good worldbuilding opportunity for the Kicath |
| 23:36.59 | Xho | Kicathian culture hasn't really been explored |
| 23:37.17 | Xho | Nor has a normal Kicath's personality |
| 23:37.32 | Xho | That being said the main character is probably going to be an Agent |
| 23:37.54 | Xho | Without giving too many spoilers the assassination might be considered political |
| 23:39.43 | Xho | Then again Kicathian politics is quite strange on the basis that they have no relative economy to be political about |
| 23:39.57 | Xho | It's more bad blood than money when it comes to Kicathian assassinations |
| 23:40.11 | Monet | Lood and family politics is still good. |
| 23:40.42 | Xho | It will probably have economic undertones; a rich Kicath is defined by how many assests he owns |
| 23:40.48 | Monet | A society where no one has a sense of ambition, drive or a desire for more is kind-of boring. |
| 23:41.05 | Monet | At least in a narrative standpoint |
| 23:41.08 | Xho | Yeah |
| 23:41.19 | Xho | Kicathian economics is all very privatised anyway |
| 23:41.50 | Xho | There's four main families in the Kicath race and between them they own technically 100% of all Kicathian assets |
| 23:42.02 | Xho | Their government is the only thing that can override that |
| 23:42.14 | Monet | 'Economics' is much broader than money. |
| 23:42.29 | Xho | Especially when the Kicath have 'evolved beyond the concept of money' |
| 23:42.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its pretty difficult to evolve beyond economics. :p |
| 23:42.51 | Xho | Since there's no such thing as a flow of money to the Kicath, acquiring assests is a very personal matter |
| 23:43.05 | Xho | And of course, losing assets can prove violent as far as Kicath go |
| 23:44.02 | Xho | So there might be some reasoning behind an assassination there |
| 23:44.36 | Xho | Kicath are highly analytical and things never usually run without long-term reasoning unless it's a *very* personal attack |
| 23:44.58 | Xho | If it is, hiring an Agent to whack the culprit is probably the normal course of action in that sense |
| 23:45.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | Then wouldn't something like a complex money-driven economy suit them? Just wondering |
| 23:45.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | Think about investments |
| 23:45.43 | Xho | Kicathian industry and trade is so huge that money doesn't really equate to anything for them |
| 23:46.02 | Xho | To Kicath, showing off what you've got is more important than what's in a bank |
| 23:46.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | Money always equates to something though. :p Money isn't a thing, its a representative unit of wealth |
| 23:46.16 | Xho | Their unit of wealth *is* what they have |
| 23:46.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though I get that they may prefer to have physical assets, but that makes trade problematic |
| 23:46.39 | Xho | Kicath don't really trade outside of themselves |
| 23:46.39 | DrodoEmpire_ | Do they barter? |
| 23:46.45 | Monet | What Drodo means is currenct is an attempt to quantify one's wealth. |
| 23:46.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 23:46.55 | Xho | Ah |
| 23:47.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | That's all it really is, and money's the big thing that allows nations to become wealthy |
| 23:47.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | Means you need not rely on barter, which is extremely awkward |
| 23:47.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | That said throughout most of human history money was still only seldom used, and only by the wealthy |
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| 23:47.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | Most people *did* have their assets in physical things |
| 23:47.58 | Xho | Things that are on the arms market of Kicathian make are usually highly-priced and not very good for trade as a result |
| 23:48.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Not necessarily. High-priced or luxury items are niche but can be profitable |
| 23:48.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | All about customer base |
| 23:48.38 | Monet | It does sound somewhat like Kicath are exercising the right to set the price. |
| 23:48.41 | Xho | But no, the Kicathian economy is an alien concept even onto the alliances they're members of |
| 23:49.37 | Xho | As the Kicath are generally xenophobic they couldn't care less about a customer base |
| 23:49.59 | Xho | They'd sell to their long-term allies like the Draconis or the Indocs |
| 23:50.03 | Xho | But outside of it, unlikely |
| 23:50.20 | Monet | I personally get a sense that the high price of Kicathina items is perhaps partially an attempt to up-market what they make. |
| 23:50.31 | Xho | So much so that illegal possession of Kicathian technology is punishable by death |
| 23:50.54 | Monet | They're perfectionists, so it seems perfectly rational they would flaunt their products as something for the elite. |
| 23:50.59 | Xho | Indeed |
| 23:51.19 | Xho | That and Kicathian technology is on par with the Gigaquadrant's top nations so why wouldn't they |
| 23:51.50 | Xho | Also the Kicath think their items look nicer so on piles interest for sheer aesthetics |
| 23:52.07 | Xho | Basically, don't trade with a Kicath unless you know one |
| 23:52.24 | Monet | Well a high price and deliberate scarcity could be common Kicathian business practices. |
| 23:52.32 | Xho | More than likely |
| 23:53.07 | Xho | The Kicath have technological practices that they like to keep secret, though I like I said breaking laws relating to Kicathian technology means death by firing squad usually |
| 23:53.53 | Xho | The Kicath don't like sharing is pretty much the basic sentiment |
| 23:55.30 | Xho | I'd imagine the very nature of interacting with a Kicath on a trade basis isn't very welcoming either |
| 23:55.40 | Monet | Well maybe they could share stuff they're not so fussed about sharing: Like food or construction equipment. |
| 23:55.50 | Xho | Oh they'd trade that |
| 23:56.04 | Xho | Anything pertaining to arms is a big no-no |
| 23:56.31 | Monet | Recently I added a section to Alcanti that, in the Imperium at least, some of its cities are sites of fashion galas. |
| 23:57.10 | Monet | Kicathian clothing could be present if you want. |
| 23:57.10 | Xho | Kicathian media and culture is surprisingly vivid, though I don't know how popular it is in the Gigaquadrant |
| 23:57.34 | Xho | Probably not that much since 99% of the Kicathian view is "unkillable psycho death machines" |
| 23:58.01 | Xho | Good for protection and that's about it |
| 23:58.19 | Monet | If the Kicath are as open to trade with the Indocs and DI as you say, maybe the stereotype is not so enforced there? |
| 23:58.25 | Xho | Probably not |
| 23:58.49 | Xho | Since they've both been allies of the Kicath for 50,000 years + they're going to be more relaxed with their prices/customs |
| 23:58.56 | Monet | Plus given the sheer scale of the Imperium even I cannot be sure what sort of things could be present at these fashion galas. |
| 23:59.36 | Xho | The Kicath as a general race aren't very welcoming nor open but I'd imagine they'd be more presence in the Imperium than anywhere else |
| 23:59.41 | Xho | present |
