IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160108

00:00.28ImpyDroidhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/MissAmericaComics_n1_1944.jpg Oh lord holy shut there was
00:01.22ImpyDroidhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/America_Chavez.png America Chavez
00:01.26ImpyDroidChavez
00:01.32MonetStill a better costume than Supergirl.
00:01.32ImpyDroidTrump is triggered
00:02.49ImpyDroidWhat is wrong with Supergirl?
00:03.45MonetWell you can see her underneaths in that mini-skirt of hers
00:04.07ImpyDroidImplying that is a bad thing
00:04.14DrodoEmpireMonet is an active member of The Patriarchy who wants to censor Supergirl
00:04.22Monethttp://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2088578!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_400/supergirl23f-2-web.jpg
00:05.07MonetSkirts that short really aren't designed for physical action. At least...not the kind she does.
00:05.42DrodoEmpireI don't think many skirts are designed with active lifestyles in mind
00:05.43The_Randomnesschecks his privilege
00:05.53The_Randomness>is white, cis scum, and confirmed shitlord
00:05.57DrodoEmpireD:
00:05.59The_RandomnessIt all checks out
00:06.39Monethttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147178/3010630-8664064277-16528.jpg "Supercheerleader"
00:07.47MonetActually I think that's it: I look at pictures and I see a Valley girl.
00:07.49ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire: Wouldn't he be an agent of the matriarchy
00:07.57ImpyDroidMonet: She is a Kryptonian
00:08.04DrodoEmpireHow so?
00:08.05ImpyDroidShe could fight naked and still win
00:08.12ImpyDroidAnd so could Superman
00:09.02MonetMy complaint is DC are dressing her up as a bloody cheerleader with the only apparent reason being because she's a woman.
00:09.45MonetI much prefer Black Widow.
00:10.19ImpyDroidThe main reason is that DC comics are mostly read by women
00:10.26ImpyDroidHot girls sell
00:11.05ImpyDroid*by men
00:11.09DrodoEmpireMaybe that's so. I don't see how this is particularly harmful though...
00:11.29ImpyDroidDrodo's inner Sargonbot has awakened
00:11.37DrodoEmpire:p
00:12.36DrodoEmpireWell is my opinion wrong?
00:12.39MonetThis might relate t owhy I prefer Marvel
00:12.47ImpyDroidNot really
00:13.00ImpyDroidI do not see anything wrong with sexualisation
00:13.28ImpyDroidWe are attracted to each other, so it is okay
00:13.37DrodoEmpireI shouldn't even say I totally disagree with the idea of "objectification" or anything like that; I just think the idea is really really talked-up and exaggerated
00:13.39MonetBlack Widow, Black Cat, She-Hulk, Carol Danvers all wear tights (or in Danvers' case, sometimes a military uniform)
00:14.05ImpyDroidBut I do not scream feminism when a character's clothes are made less revealing
00:14.13MonetAll those women can kick ass without ever wearing a teeny skirt.
00:14.17DrodoEmpireWell no me neither
00:14.18ImpyDroidSylvanas's armour is cool
00:14.30ImpyDroidMonet: But Tigea
00:14.32ImpyDroidTigra
00:14.45ImpyDroidBikini-clad catwoman
00:15.25MonetBikini yes.
00:15.38DrodoEmpireI actually prefer more modestly-clothed characters in general; Makes more sense in most situations
00:16.03DrodoEmpireAs there are times where sexualizing a character is just plainly nonsensical; Not morally wrong, but definitely out-of-place
00:16.09MonetThen again I also don't like DC because of how many capes there are.
00:16.12ImpyDroidWell yeah it makes sense but where something sexy would be appropriate and make sense
00:16.23ImpyDroidWhy not show sexy?
00:16.26DrodoEmpireYeah
00:16.43MonetTo me DC characters just look old-fashioned.
00:17.14ImpyDroidMarvel cartoon women awakened my sexuality hur
00:17.18MonetWell, mainly DC heroes
00:20.33Monet<PROTECTED>
00:23.31ImpyDroidHachiman: I sprouted a self-aware jet black fedora with ANARCHY written in blood red edge font reading your post. It's currently tipping on its own to the rhythm of BYOB by System of a Down. Also every female in my phone contact book vanished in an instant as my neckbeard unfurled from my multiple chins. My Cologne has been replaced with B.O. and stale mountain dew, my attire replaced with Tripp pants and a KORN XXL tee, and my aura is cheeto dust orange.
00:24.31The_Randomnessbut
00:24.34The_Randomnesshachi is kill
00:25.18ImpyDroidoh
00:27.11The_Randomness5/7 copypasta though
00:32.09DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/gh3KgRa.jpg
02:20.52DrodoEmpirehttps://twitter.com/stats_canada - I love this
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03:26.52DrodoEmpireHi
03:26.58AeondroidHi
03:27.56DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AThe_Living_Ancients - *really* wish people would contibute more to this. >:
03:28.01DrodoEmpireAll it is so far is me and Monet
03:28.51DrodoEmpireIts basically "How many ways can the Draconis mess with the British/Drodo" thusfar
03:29.54MonetLol
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08:55.55HachimanHi
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09:31.21GhelaeHello.
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10:52.19dromTek0516 ImpyDroid: So this arrived to me via taxi today. http://i.imgur.com/Bq5RQM0.jpg
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11:00.42AdmiralPandahi all
11:00.54dromhi
11:01.05GhelaeHello.
11:02.26AdmiralPandashoutcasters in dressing gowns is the best way to accentuate professional esports
11:06.56dromNot sure if I can have enough of winodws on space vessels http://i.imgur.com/GnjJcyX.png
11:07.00dromwindows*
11:09.53dromI ain't even halfway through it http://i.imgur.com/kFmQwW4.png
11:16.13AdmiralPandahehehe windows on a spaceship
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11:29.36AdmiralPandahi Oluap
11:30.51OluapPlayerHi
11:31.30dromJokes on you, our concurrent vessels sent to the space do have windows
11:32.58AdmiralPandaour current vessels sent to space are stupid because we have things that exist called cameras which don't compromise the integrity of the hull
11:34.03dromBah, all of you are hippies
11:34.04dromjk
11:34.23GhelaeOur current vessels sent into space aren't warships that have to worry about projectiles being fired through the windows.
11:34.27AdmiralPandabecause having a reasonable argument about preservation of hull integrity makes me a tree hugger, sure :P
11:34.33AdmiralPandaGhelae: that too
11:35.04dromAgain, that sentence was a joke. It is completely understandable.
11:35.19GhelaeBut since we're talking about sci-fi, we could suppose that futuristic ultra-diamondoid is actually transparent, so you could have a perfectly strong hull that's a single giant window.
11:35.48GhelaeOf course you wouldn't actually do that either.
11:36.18GhelaeFirst of all, enemies can see where all your weak spots are. Secondly, most of your crew won't like it when everyone can see into their bedrooms and bathrooms.
11:36.33AdmiralPandasince we're talking sci-fi, it's fair to argue that ships would rely largely on shielding for protection, though that's still no excuse to have inferior hull plating
11:37.09dromIt is an excuse to have no access to superior hull plating
11:37.20GhelaeYou'd want a strong hull too. I'm just saying there may be no need for that hull to be opaque.
11:38.02AdmiralPandawell yeah, an opaque hull is a different matter entirely
11:39.05dromYou could just include it as a layer for a armor type.
11:39.25GhelaeAdd metal walls inside the hull where you don't want people to see in.
11:40.16GhelaeOr just a thin layer of aluminium/plastic if you want to keep mass down.
11:42.05dromBut still, I think the lack of details makes space ships very boring
11:44.24dromAtleast it is not Windows Vista
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12:25.57AdmiralPandaI've always been a pragmatist in design terms, primary reason a lot of my SE ships all end up looking like blocks
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12:34.04Wormy_hi
12:40.17OluapPlayerHi
13:22.41Wormy_New North Korea defeats American aggressor video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsrbNT_TnZQ
13:44.58Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/L1fghCW
13:45.24AdmiralPandaI approve of this message
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13:54.07Wormy_firenado http://imgur.com/gallery/zu8qRrW
13:56.32AdmiralPandayeah we get that a lot
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14:13.08Primiusey
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14:16.54PrimiusHello
14:17.14Primius~whalenuke himself
14:17.14infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around himself with his mind powers.
14:17.31Primiushighly unintelligent*
14:19.09drom"<AdmiralPanda> I've always been a pragmatist in design terms, primary reason a lot of my SE ships all end up looking like blocks"  --  Vote AdmiralPanda for best Borg vessel designer of 2015
14:19.47AdmiralPandaHow did you know I won that? People weren't supposed to find out because I'm not Borg
14:21.03Primius~assimilate AdmiralPanda
14:21.03infobotACTION jams assimilation tubes into AdmiralPanda's neck and injects Borg nanobots.
14:21.10Primius:)
14:21.43AdmiralPandadetonates the fusion core powering his cybernetics, utilising the datanet to transfer to a reserve body
14:21.44AdmiralPandanice try
14:22.43Primius...dammit
14:23.24dromAdmiralPanda: You are being fooled by the world of liars you are living in, the world you are "living" in is the Borgs' collective cosciousness.
14:23.36drom[dramatic music played in the background]
14:23.50Primius:)
14:24.04AdmiralPandadrom: I dip in there every so often, I have a neurocybernetic uplink. It's a pretty nice place when you forget it's run by the Borg
14:24.12AdmiralPandahowever, I am very much a distinct and separate being from the Borg
14:24.15Primius...dammit
14:24.36Primiusi feel an irc moment
14:24.47Primiusbut not sure if irc moment or just funny
14:25.59AdmiralPandaneither tbh
14:27.02dromAnother reason why no one likes the Australians expect themselves
14:28.14Primiussame now
14:28.40AdmiralPandathe real reason nobody likes us is this generation can't handle even good-natured mocking, making friendships with Australians impossible
14:28.58AdmiralPandaafter all, casual insults make up one of the three essential pillars of an Australian friendship
14:29.06PrimiusxD
14:29.18Primiusand a modern enemyship
14:29.29Primiusamirite?
14:35.17dromNo response? "ting" says the reason toll!
14:36.00AdmiralPandagot bored so I'm looking through D&D feats, planning what I'll take for level 5
14:36.38AdmiralPandamust do as much as possible to kill whatever the oluap puts in front of me
14:43.56OluapPlayerfuk u
14:45.25AdmiralPandaI'm a fighter, I fight things
14:45.53AdmiralPandaand occasionally make them run away like little girly-men
14:47.44dromur not a barbarian
14:47.48dromu dissappoint me
14:48.26AdmiralPandaBarbarians run out of angry before Fighters run out of fight
14:49.19dromstab yourself with a glass shard to keep your anger. But that's a cheap explotive - very likely to be forbidden by the D/GM
14:49.43AdmiralPandayeah that's not how it works, you have a set number of rounds of rage
14:50.06dromdepends on the DM/GM though
14:50.29dromOr if it is a more democracy, your group as well.
14:50.31AdmiralPandaif the DM isn't putting a cap on it they're making the barbarian outright broken
14:51.15AdmiralPandathe thing with barbarians is that they're strong during their rage, weak when not in rage. If they're in rage all the time, they're objectively the best martial class in all respects except not being able to wear heavy armour, which is still only 3 AC points
14:52.02dromThen ranged and magical attacks are effective against barbarians regardless they are angry or not?
14:53.18AdmiralPandathey are, but that's not what matters- if the barbarians are able to rage all the time, they make fighters and non-bow based rangers irrelevant
14:55.24AdmiralPandathe very thing that makes fighters good is that their bonuses aren't situational- barbarians and rangers have highs and lows, fighters are consistantly good- if you made the barbarian consistent at their peak then they're oppressively powerful
14:56.57dromI don't think fighters or melee-based rangers would be irrelevant against 24/7 rage barbarians. Fighters take pride in wearing armour and taking less damage than barbarians. Rangers being swift, quick and agile (from the name of it), they will have easy time to dodge if it isn't entirely dependent on rolls. While barbarians in rage would dish out the most damage, but very likely to miss and easier to be distracted as they focus on a target, their mind
14:56.58dromdrowning in anger and hate.
15:00.05dromMore suspectable to hits and non-blunt damage.
15:00.52AdmiralPandaI get the feeling you don't play much D&D
15:01.34AdmiralPandalike, not trying to be rude here, but it's literally the way the balance of power in the characters was designed. If you look at the numbers, it's immediately obvious and even moreso in play
15:02.12dromNope. That's why, I've trouble finding D&D groups. Even in real-life and on internet.
15:02.17dromGotta love inexperience.
15:05.38dromBut still. We are not playing a computer game, a game with rules engraved in a rock. From what I've read and comprehended texts, manuals and tips from other people, DM is the game's master, the players are playing a game designed by the DM. Although there are difficulties to control the power of party members together and the power projected by the DM her/himself.
15:05.44AdmiralPandato give an example, a barbarian's rage gives them +4 to strength and constitution at level 1, which translates (among other things) to a +2 to hit and damage with melee weapons. A fighter doesn't get their equivalent bonus (Weapon Training) until level 5, and it's only a +1/+1, but they get it all the time
15:06.49dromIt is why there are so many homebrews.
15:06.50dromI see.
15:08.37AdmiralPandaD&D is a very mechanically intensive system, the vast majority of homebrew rules are clarifications rather than outright changes as you quickly realise how many knock-on effects there are
15:09.44Primiuswhat the fuck have i joined to
15:10.55AdmiralPandaanyway, gonna go pass out in the vain hope that my cyberpunk group won't be twats tomorrow
15:11.26dromIt still doesn't mean that the rules are forever as they are. Of course it is going to take furstations and anger as the DM try to compensate it.
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15:49.44HachimanHi
15:54.39ImperiosiH
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16:06.55ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452258590250.jpg
16:07.12HachimanIt's true
16:07.30ImperiosHail Pepe
16:07.49OluapPlayerPepe and Trump fit each other
16:07.52OluapPlayerThey're both cancer
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16:26.26ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://orig09.deviantart.net/a989/f/2016/008/d/d/anxiety_by_tasritu-d9n6t5e.jpg Gentlemen ^ 2
16:26.47OluapPlayerNgh
16:26.51OluapPlayerThat's disturbing
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16:53.39Wormy_Should have put his real mouth in the but ends
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16:55.58JepardiHi
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17:41.30LuxorHerePaint.net i so so good program.
17:48.16Vincent20100Hey!
18:07.07HachimanImperios ImpyDroid: I do not get why people usually associate cavemen peoples as being club-wielders when realistically they would have used improvised sharp objects, like proto-daggers, primitive axes, and spears, far more often
18:07.42ImperiosThey would probably use both
18:07.52ImperiosBesides a stick is very useful
18:08.03ImperiosDuring peacetime
18:08.36HachimanEh I suppose so
18:09.01HachimanWhat are caveman clubs even supposed to be made of
18:09.26HachimanI never get how they had a rounded end if they are supposed to be made of tree stuff
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18:19.15Wormy_woops
18:19.31Wormy_The sound on my PC just broke :(
18:19.55Wormy_slaps Wormy_ around a bit with a large fishbot
18:19.59Wormy_Yep gone
18:20.06Wormy_Restarting computer
18:26.09TekDroidOkay... the room for my next class doesn't seem to exist.
18:26.32ImperiosHachiman: You cut it/break it
18:26.40ImperiosCavemen were not THAT stupid hur
18:28.39ImperiosOr you take a big branch
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18:32.07Wormy_Well that worked, sound is back.
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18:34.53Vincent20100Is it?
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18:35.25The_RandomnessHello
18:44.50OluapPlayerrandum
19:00.56ImperiosOluapPlayer Hachiman Wormy_: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452279579342.jpg
19:01.16HachimanOh wow hur
19:01.39HachimanThat's really clever
19:03.01ImperiosHow can you *BLAM* people with a tonfa though
19:04.07OluapPlayerYou don't
19:04.14OluapPlayerYou use your much superior loyalty tonfa
19:18.42ImperiosWormy_: Apparently my NKVD great-grandfather fought Islamic insurgencies in Central Asia
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19:21.57ImperiosHi
19:22.18TekDroidHello
19:23.47Aeohi
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19:25.18JepardiHi
19:28.58HachimanHi Aeo
19:29.08Aeohi
19:29.10HachimanImperios: That is awesome, not gonna lie
19:29.21HachimanYour great-grandfather sounds like a badass
19:38.21ImperiosThat he served in the NKVD is a bit disgraceful though
19:39.40Wormy_Interesting stuff
19:40.33Wormy_I had a great uncle who fought in WW2 and had shapnel in his brain for the rest of his life, I don't know much else about him as he distanced himself from the family
19:42.39HachimanImperios, how do you feel knowing your great-grandfather was actually the villain
19:43.04Wormy_Hachiman:  I;m not in a good mood because I was supposed to go on uni trips this year to Berlin and Pinewood studios, and it required a count of students.  The foundation degree students had to pay, but not very much, and only 10 paid in time.  So its let us full degree students down who could go for free.
19:43.06ImperiosWe are ALL villains
19:43.10ImperiosFrom your point of view at least
19:43.45ImperiosA lot of my family serves or has served in the government or the armty
19:43.47Imperios*ormy
19:44.03OluapPlayerYou're all villains cus humans must all dai
19:44.19Imperios*army
19:45.48Wormy_Hachi:  The special and entitled generation is narrow minded and boring imo
19:46.15Wormy_I'm sure years ago students would have jumped at the opportunity for a trip
19:47.33HachimanAye that is disappointing
19:48.04Wormy_I've been reading this about Generation Y, its a bit americanised, but I think it might apply to UK from 90's and onwards http://brightside.me/article/why-generation-y-is-unhappy-11105/
19:48.58Wormy_Before we broke up for Christmas, one student was upset he didn't get a First and his work was clearly mediocre
19:52.17dromSo I spend the evening watching the new episode of Star Wars
19:52.47Wormy_What you think?
19:54.39dromThe effects were cool and all, but I'm uncertain about the story.
19:57.21dromThe only disappointment was the reveal of the son's face. I was expecting a human tainted by the traits of the darkness. All I got was a snotty shitlord.
20:01.34Wormy_lol
20:02.06Wormy_I agree
20:02.42Wormy_Darth Vader would have been disappointed, if he had not rurned to the light side of the force
20:03.48HachimanMy God, you really do not get it
20:03.52HachimanNobody gets it
20:04.12The_RandomnessI think it's pretty obvious he's supposed to be a newb Sith
20:04.49Wormy_Hachi:  Get what
20:05.04HachimanKylo Ren is not "supposed" to be a badass; he is a student who is starting his journey to become a Sith Lord and is still bound by his human connections, which is why he does not look tainted by the Dark Side
20:05.16HachimanAnd why he does not act as stoic or cold like Vader and is still fickle
20:05.55Wormy_Well I get that, that he is a n00b, but not all students have to be the same
20:06.12Wormy_Kylo is a generation Y villain XD
20:06.34HachimanIt is obvious from his attire that he admires Vader and wishes to be him, but just because he aspires to be someone does not mean he is that person
20:07.17Wormy_Indeed, but the trailer made him seem better.  Actually it is obvious he has strong force potential
20:08.10HachimanYes, because he is descended from Vader like Luke
20:08.28HachimanAnd Luke was a whiny brat just like Kylo is before becoming a Jedi Master
20:08.58HachimanAnd Vader was a whiny brat while he was still a Padawan training under Obi-Wan
20:20.22The_Randomness^
20:20.54Wormy_The bigger brat, in fact
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20:28.25DrodoEmpireHi everyone
20:32.52GhelaeHello.
20:33.13TekDroidHello
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20:47.14dromHachiman: I get what you actually say. But it doesn't rub away the fact he is just a snotty sperglord that should have stayed in the r/SRS/ and /pol/
20:49.59The_Randomnesslol
20:52.26OluapPlayerThe_Randomness: Just so you know, no D&D tomorrow
20:52.29The_Randomnessok
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21:25.34Imperioshttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m50vipxIRa1rxy7d6o1_500.jpg
21:33.20ImpyDroiddrom: Wait you mean Kylo?
21:33.27dromImpyDroid: Yeah
21:33.55dromDrodoEmpire Tek0516 Ghelae The_Randomness: Not enuff Windows http://i.imgur.com/aNLEqbh.png
21:37.20ImpyDroidHell you are right
21:37.29ImpyDroidHe does act a lot like a /pol/ack
21:39.09ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452266652703.png
21:39.20OluapPlayerSeen
21:39.31OluapPlayerget off of /pol/ and go write fiction
21:40.56The_Randomnessdrom: Looking good so far
21:41.05dromImpyDroid: dats when you take front-cam selfies
22:09.57dromThe_Randomness: Update http://i.imgur.com/sHpP2RW.png
22:10.13The_RandomnessNice
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23:45.35TekDroidffs. I've been waiting over an hour to see my exam mark and I might not even get to.
23:49.40The_RandomnessI just got out of a learning party in FFXIV
23:49.53The_RandomnessThe good news is that we basically have the hardest part of the fight down

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