| 00:00.26 | OluapPlayer | Don't get it |
| 00:16.07 | Monet | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0arhuLGJBN0/Vo2hBxNF1aI/AAAAAAAACow/vkeOUZFcnnM/s1600/MinosDrakon%2B3touched.jpg did a drewing idea for MD |
| 00:16.43 | DrodoEmpire | Oh cool |
| 00:36.46 | ImpyDroid | drom Monet Wormy_: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452121403406.jpg |
| 00:37.13 | ImpyDroid | Monet: This looks more Gothic |
| 00:37.19 | ImpyDroid | Which is a bit weird |
| 00:38.03 | Monet | Bit generalising isn't it? |
| 00:39.46 | ImpyDroid | You mean the fat girl pic or the MD |
| 00:40.46 | Wormy_ | Feel the burn. |
| 01:00.40 | Monet | Imperios: Ohwhops I got confused |
| 01:00.57 | Monet | I thought you were sating the fat girl looks Gohic. |
| 01:04.28 | Monet | Also was bored so I made a ligth-map of Alcanti http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/ff/MD_At_Night.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160107010306 |
| 01:04.45 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh I like that |
| 01:06.04 | The_Randomness | neat |
| 01:09.44 | Monet | Looking at this map I guess its easy ot see the extent of the Great Wastes. |
| 01:10.44 | Monet | Actually I guess there could be a *lot* about Alcanti's history and culture lot gleaned from this map |
| 01:11.37 | Monet | As well as economy. |
| 01:12.53 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:13.07 | ImpyDroid | Anyway it's the pointed arches that make the city look Gothic |
| 01:14.22 | Monet | Yeah when sketching these I thought "what the hell, flying buttresses!" |
| 01:14.44 | Monet | As well as, like you said, gothic arches. Though being Minos'Drakon, they'll be detailed in gold. |
| 01:16.14 | ImpyDroid | Gothic architecture isn't something I think of when I think of Draconis but it firs |
| 01:18.01 | ImpyDroid | I wonder if MD has victory arches though |
| 01:18.11 | Monet | I did wonder about Art Nouveau but what did you have in mind? |
| 01:20.26 | ImpyDroid | You mean the architectural styles? |
| 01:20.31 | Monet | Yeah |
| 01:20.47 | ImpyDroid | Classical of course, Baroque, maybe Empire style |
| 01:21.46 | Monet | Baroque yeah |
| 01:22.08 | Monet | Also about the victory arch thing, does the Paragon's Plaza or any of the municipal squares count? |
| 01:22.42 | Monet | Draocnis tend to comemmorate statues or monuments to significant moments - like the foudning of the AGC. |
| 01:23.45 | ImpyDroid | I see |
| 01:24.15 | ImpyDroid | I mean the kind of victory arches Romans built |
| 01:24.48 | ImpyDroid | http://www.spbtravel.ru/pic/photo/attbig_44_3.jpg Like this one or the one in Paris |
| 01:24.54 | ImpyDroid | Or those in, well, Rome |
| 01:25.08 | Monet | Not that I cna recall |
| 01:26.55 | Monet | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c5/Sons_Submit_01.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141012003638 the closest I can think of showing is an arch like that. |
| 01:28.18 | ImpyDroid | Well then I just gave you an idea hur |
| 01:28.39 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of the arch I linked walking past it always fees weird |
| 01:28.55 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.06 | Monet | Might be because it's lime green. |
| 01:30.43 | Monet | St Petersberg - We are being environmentally friendly. Look! Are having green arch of victory! |
| 01:31.21 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:31.30 | ImpyDroid | There is actually a reason everything is brightly coloured in Saint-Petersburg |
| 01:32.00 | Monet | You've said before |
| 01:32.05 | ImpyDroid | Yep |
| 01:32.17 | DrodoEmpire | cuz its ghey 3:< |
| 01:32.28 | ImpyDroid | Almosr |
| 01:32.44 | ImpyDroid | Because it's gray |
| 01:32.51 | Monet | To compensate for the drab sky? |
| 01:32.52 | DrodoEmpire | hoh |
| 01:32.53 | Monet | U ninja |
| 01:32.55 | DrodoEmpire | Almost right |
| 01:32.55 | ImpyDroid | Yep |
| 01:32.57 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 01:34.18 | ImpyDroid | Though the northernmost Russian cities take it even further and paint every house in vivid bright colours as opposed to pastel like in Saint-Petersburg |
| 01:34.24 | ImpyDroid | Because polar night |
| 01:34.41 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 01:35.08 | ImpyDroid | http://pics.livejournal.com/dkachalov/pic/0008t7qr/s640x640 Murmansk |
| 01:35.38 | Monet | Murmansk - RAINBOWSRAINBOWSRAINBOWS |
| 01:35.59 | Monet | Scout takes one look and bursts into tears. |
| 01:36.13 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:37.00 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait this house has a six-coloured rainbow |
| 01:37.21 | ImpyDroid | Six-coloured |
| 01:37.35 | ImpyDroid | CALL THE POLICE THE HOMOGAY IS SPREADING |
| 01:37.43 | Monet | No I count seven |
| 01:37.54 | Monet | Yeah, seven |
| 01:38.29 | Monet | Red, orange, yellow, green, light blue, dark blue, purple. |
| 01:38.32 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
| 01:39.09 | ImpyDroid | One milk brand was nearly banned in Russia once because it featured an LGBT six-coloured rainbow |
| 01:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:40.00 | DrodoEmpire | Because of course, the milk would spread The Gays to all of the children |
| 01:40.33 | ImpyDroid | Fabulous milk |
| 01:41.02 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of Russian architecture I found one interesting Moscow house |
| 01:42.22 | ImpyDroid | http://stroi.mos.ru/uploads/user_files/images/Unikalnaya_arx/Moscow/neb_varshavka4.jpg "Fuck the Empire State Building, who needs verticality anyway" |
| 01:43.43 | Monet | One of the oldest buildings with its own subway network. |
| 01:44.47 | ImpyDroid | I'd say make something like this for MD but that kind of mega-building feels more depressively totalitarian |
| 01:45.34 | Monet | Let me guess. |
| 01:45.44 | Monet | It was built during the era of the Soviet Union? |
| 01:46.44 | ImpyDroid | Who else would build THAT |
| 01:47.03 | Monet | :> |
| 01:47.41 | ImpyDroid | No one else cared that much about the common folk so as to build a giant skyscraper for them he |
| 01:49.35 | ImpyDroid | But come to think about it maybe a giant house complex like this isn't all that bad |
| 01:49.41 | Monet | You can tell it's Soviet by how ugly it is. |
| 01:49.50 | ImpyDroid | Pretty much hur |
| 01:50.20 | Monet | Oh those sorts of housing complexes are rarely pleasant after five eyars of existence. |
| 01:51.17 | ImpyDroid | We actually have a nickname for these complices |
| 01:51.24 | ImpyDroid | "Commieblocks" |
| 01:51.44 | ImpyDroid | In untranslated English for some reason |
| 01:52.36 | Monet | I don't think there's is an official nickname for UK council estates. But the very name is synonymous with "depressing shithole" |
| 01:53.04 | ImpyDroid | The most eerie thing about them is that all of them were for the most part very similar |
| 01:53.25 | ImpyDroid | It is very hard to tell where you are in the outer parts of the city |
| 01:53.44 | ImpyDroid | Because every block looks almost exactly the same |
| 02:01.03 | ImpyDroid | Soviet architecture has some gems though, especially from the Stalin period |
| 02:01.32 | ImpyDroid | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Kudrinskaya_Square_Building_in_Moscow.jpg/800px-Kudrinskaya_Square_Building_in_Moscow.jpg probably one of the few positive things Stalin has left: industry and architecture |
| 02:02.46 | Monet | That looks Art Deco. |
| 02:03.42 | ImpyDroid | It is one of the influences I think |
| 02:04.30 | ImpyDroid | http://cft2.igromania.ru/upload/articles/1045/522767/1s.jpg Or that |
| 02:04.45 | Monet | Stalin - Down with the decadent West...although they make some lovely towers. |
| 02:05.24 | ImpyDroid | The Russian Comic-Con was held there, Stalin must be rolling in his grave |
| 02:09.23 | ImpyDroid | Shit I just realized that the thin vertical pillar-things make this building look like Icecrown Citadel |
| 02:10.52 | ImpyDroid | Or Barad-dûr |
| 02:48.06 | Monet | Stalin - I also enjoyed the wwritings of J.R.R. Tolkien. |
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| 07:46.11 | drom | Liquid_Ink: "Basically we kinda accidentally assassinated the Japanese head of state instead of a Chinese war criminal and I think it's safe to say we were played like a damn fiddle." - "That's pretty racist" |
| 07:46.27 | Liquid_Ink | wot |
| 07:48.51 | drom | Someone's experience from playing Shadowrun (cyberpunk D&D), someone commented about it. |
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| 11:38.15 | drom | "Do note that the "assassination" was us applying two missiles to a commercial airliner. We didn't even mention the around 170 civilian casualties caused from the people also on board!" |
| 11:40.33 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35251478 |
| 11:42.27 | Wormy_ | Reporter stabbed while testing protective vest http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35244864 |
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| 11:47.59 | drom | "end is neigh" It has been a while Xho was into horses as villians |
| 11:50.03 | drom | been a while since when Xho* |
| 11:54.41 | drom | Wormy_: So I'm attempting to give the NS battleship a cool bridge (exterior, not interior for now). But I lack proper inspiration |
| 11:56.30 | drom | I was thinking the bridge won't be a conventional bridge, a place from where you control the whole vessel. But a observation deck fit for tactical coordination and targeting. |
| 12:03.38 | Wormy_ | When you showed me the engines yesterday, do you plan on animating the lighting/VFX in stages like the pictures? |
| 12:04.54 | drom | I can try |
| 12:05.10 | drom | But not now atm, as I'm working on the greebles and details |
| 12:06.50 | drom | Wormy_: This is how the engine looks right now. http://i.imgur.com/iXvoOJP.png |
| 12:12.02 | Wormy_ | looks enginey |
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| 12:14.33 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 12:18.35 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:20.02 | drom | Hey |
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| 12:53.21 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda OluapPlayer: http://cs540103.vk.me/v540103041/3a35f/la2RN4L4wso.jpg |
| 12:53.59 | AdmiralPanda | I approve |
| 12:54.02 | OluapPlayer | Don't get it |
| 12:54.18 | AdmiralPanda | those are the classical masters the TMNT are named after |
| 12:54.32 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 12:55.05 | AdmiralPanda | I love the one where a painting of the four meeting got photoshopped so they were sharing a pizza |
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| 13:33.06 | Imperios | drom: https://2ch.hk/po/src/13046136/14521721358500.png MY CRIME |
| 13:33.08 | Imperios | CRIMEA |
| 13:33.59 | Imperios | (Warning: NSFW) |
| 13:34.03 | Imperios | Albeit only barely |
| 13:37.59 | drom | Imperios: Read it more as "MY CRINGE" |
| 13:38.35 | Imperios | Also https://2ch.hk/po/src/13046136/14521733079100.png Apparently Syrians and Iranians like lesbians |
| 13:38.40 | Imperios | And Egyptians and Iraqi people |
| 13:38.49 | Imperios | And Moroccans |
| 13:39.13 | drom | "if it is haram, then it must be good" |
| 13:39.58 | Imperios | Actually it makes a lot of sense for people in the Middle East |
| 13:40.09 | OluapPlayer | Everyone likes lesbians |
| 13:40.13 | Imperios | >find two bi girls >marry them >leave for a while >watch |
| 13:40.21 | Imperios | Absolutely halal plan |
| 13:40.56 | Imperios | Lesbian harem |
| 13:41.12 | drom | Wormy_: I like how Borg's cubes are just glorified cubes |
| 13:41.20 | drom | cubes covered in randum shit |
| 13:41.27 | Imperios | They're not cubes |
| 13:41.28 | Imperios | They're |
| 13:41.29 | Imperios | METAL |
| 13:41.30 | Imperios | BOXES |
| 13:42.22 | drom | CUBES |
| 13:42.27 | drom | THEY ARE CALLED BORG CUBES |
| 13:42.32 | AdmiralPanda | METUL BAWXES |
| 13:42.56 | drom | Wormy_: Here we've got a proper borg! http://i.imgur.com/2Lwqf.jpg |
| 13:43.08 | OluapPlayer | but you can't take away the metal boxes of the Borg |
| 13:43.12 | OluapPlayer | You just become absorbed in them |
| 13:43.43 | drom | ... glorified cubes ... |
| 13:44.12 | AdmiralPanda | cubes are very efficient shapes, especially since shape doesn't matter in space |
| 13:44.25 | Imperios | I am more interested by the fact that Saudi Arabia apparently likes "Arab" porn |
| 13:44.29 | AdmiralPanda | which is the entire point, the borg don't care about aesthetics so they just build functional ships |
| 13:44.31 | Imperios | Are they narcissistic or something |
| 13:44.47 | Imperios | Pretty much yeah Borgs are very unimaginative |
| 13:44.50 | AdmiralPanda | I'm more interested in how much attention you're paying to what other people watch |
| 13:45.00 | OluapPlayer | lel |
| 13:45.18 | AdmiralPanda | like, why does this matter so much to you? I'm honestly curious |
| 13:46.20 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: Found this chart on the Internet, it is strangely enlightening |
| 13:59.12 | Wormy_ | Borg don't create, they only assimilate. |
| 14:23.53 | drom | I've a question, my gentlemen. How usually high are the windows at your home in metrics? I'm doing precision stuff for a space vessel in Blender |
| 14:24.38 | AdmiralPanda | ~20cm |
| 14:24.48 | AdmiralPanda | we have big windows |
| 14:24.58 | AdmiralPanda | wait, do you mean high off the ground or size of window? |
| 14:26.06 | drom | What I wrote was about the height off the ground, but I was also looking for the size. |
| 14:27.09 | Imperios | Height off the ground, not much |
| 14:27.14 | Imperios | 30-40 cm tops |
| 14:27.23 | Imperios | Actual height, like 2 meters or something |
| 14:27.44 | AdmiralPanda | prettymuch the same ^ |
| 14:28.23 | Wormy_ | No idea, never measured it. |
| 14:28.27 | drom | High ceiling I assume? |
| 14:28.49 | Imperios | Yep |
| 14:29.00 | Imperios | New building and all that |
| 14:29.13 | Imperios | The old Soviet home had smaller windows |
| 14:29.51 | drom | American homes usually have just tiny and then extra large windows. |
| 14:30.15 | Wormy_ | windows in mu house are big |
| 14:30.54 | Wormy_ | probably start at waste height |
| 14:30.57 | Imperios | It's actually a bane |
| 14:31.02 | Imperios | Because it's cold as fuck here right now |
| 14:31.30 | Imperios | drom Wormy_: http://orig10.deviantart.net/d9bb/f/2015/281/f/f/deal_with_it_obama_by_party9999999-d9cdl4h.png |
| 14:31.37 | Wormy_ | Got double-glazing |
| 14:31.52 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 14:32.02 | AdmiralPanda | we just have big windows |
| 14:32.44 | AdmiralPanda | it's not really a cultural thing or anything, just the houses in this area are all development houses so they all follow one of three blueprints, and for some reason the architect decided we all need windows |
| 14:32.50 | AdmiralPanda | big windows* |
| 14:34.22 | drom | Living in a house built during the 80's. Most of the windows are like 1/2 meter off the floor and 140x100 cm large. |
| 14:34.38 | Wormy_ | My house is over 100 years old, so I'm not sure if big windows were part of the original design |
| 14:35.27 | Wormy_ | several people died in my house, which is creepy when the seats move as if being sat on |
| 14:36.12 | Wormy_ | One old lady was murdered in what is now the bathroom (what was then a coal shack) by her own grandson |
| 14:36.43 | drom | Explains your internet outage not long ago hur |
| 14:36.50 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 14:38.23 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: So like a Soviet-style living block then? |
| 14:40.24 | AdmiralPanda | I don't think so, it's a small neighbourhood of housing all built and sold by a developer |
| 14:41.00 | Imperios | Wormy_: We and Monet discussed architecture last night and I stumbled on one interesting Soviet building in the process |
| 14:41.06 | Imperios | http://stroi.mos.ru/uploads/user_files/images/Unikalnaya_arx/Moscow/neb_varshavka1.jpg |
| 14:41.18 | Wormy_ | Looks like a wall. |
| 14:42.55 | drom | Geezuh |
| 14:43.11 | drom | This must be the new Concrete Curtain |
| 14:43.16 | Imperios | Trump's wet dream |
| 14:43.19 | Imperios | A wall people can live in |
| 14:43.43 | drom | Imperios "A wall border guards can live in" FTFY |
| 14:44.33 | Imperios | Imagine the size of the border guard |
| 14:44.45 | Imperios | Now it sounds like Game of Thrones |
| 14:45.57 | Imperios | "We are the watchers on the border." |
| 15:00.18 | Wormy_ | Donald;s wall will Trump that. |
| 15:13.16 | drom | Cannot thriumph like trump |
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| 15:14.44 | Imperios | drom Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GhzdNkaJZg\ |
| 15:14.44 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 15:14.46 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GhzdNkaJZg |
| 15:19.27 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 15:19.43 | Wormy_ | Imperios: https://youtu.be/6J_ndG5xEzU?t=1m31s |
| 15:21.23 | Imperios | Wait that's the wrong version |
| 15:21.40 | Imperios | The Russian one had Superman as the girl and Batman as Christian Gray |
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| 15:36.47 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://stroi.mos.ru/uploads/user_files/images/Unikalnaya_arx/Moscow/neb_varshavka1.jpg Russian Trump |
| 15:36.48 | Imperios | Hi |
| 15:37.19 | OluapPlayer | Trump's ancestors were the builders of the Great Wall of China |
| 15:41.27 | Imperios | Speaking of which Wormy_ I can kind of imagine the DCP making buildings like this |
| 15:44.21 | Wormy_ | Possibly, but a lot taller |
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| 17:11.08 | OluapPlayer | Too ded in here |
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| 17:26.26 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/IYu0bCA |
| 17:31.06 | drom | Imperios: https://i.imgur.com/6xOzOUq.png |
| 17:31.23 | drom | Check the first bubble |
| 17:31.37 | Imperios | Typical Siberia |
| 17:31.42 | drom | That's Norrland in a nutshell |
| 17:37.37 | Wormy_ | drom dawwwwwwhttp://imgur.com/gallery/Jae1S |
| 17:37.45 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Jae1S |
| 17:37.55 | drom | teheheh |
| 17:38.15 | Wormy_ | I don't like horses very much but mini ones are an exception |
| 17:38.44 | drom | [tiny neigh] |
| 17:39.32 | drom | Wormy_: Doing to do some laser arrays. But I could need some design reference |
| 17:40.50 | Wormy_ | Try looking at real life lasers and the extrapolating a futuristic version |
| 17:40.55 | Wormy_ | *then |
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| 17:43.14 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 17:43.15 | drom | well it would be great if ya gave me examples of such weaponry in sci-fi movies/series or games. |
| 17:43.37 | drom | Cause I'm going to create a real large one |
| 17:44.25 | Wormy_ | Cat shadow http://imgur.com/gallery/p4PWWRe |
| 17:44.59 | Wormy_ | Right, well you've seen enough Star Wars, and Star Trek looks like gun ports or lines |
| 17:45.04 | OluapPlayer | ~cuddle Hachiman |
| 17:45.04 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
| 17:45.05 | Wormy_ | So... Babylon 5 |
| 17:45.21 | Wormy_ | drom: Check out ships and weapons in Babylon 5 |
| 17:45.32 | AdmiralPanda | more like Kelpie stick |
| 17:45.35 | drom | Hm yeah, I'm looking for examples of gun ports/lines |
| 17:45.37 | AdmiralPanda | I know it's not a kelpie but the joke |
| 17:45.40 | drom | for lasers |
| 17:45.55 | Wormy_ | http://www.isnnews.net/hyperspace/ |
| 17:46.02 | AdmiralPanda | drom: what do you mean by ports/lines? |
| 17:46.20 | Wormy_ | holes |
| 17:46.36 | Wormy_ | Or in the case of Enterprise D, a red rang around the saucer section |
| 17:46.40 | Wormy_ | *ring |
| 17:47.23 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/I3VBHIZ |
| 17:48.38 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/8EHC8n6.jpg http://imgur.com/gallery/me1hB8a |
| 17:48.56 | drom | AdmiralPanda: http://i.imgur.com/eJ9Zu9s.png seen example is the Kushan Ion Frigate from Homeworld, the black slot is the muzzle of the ion cannon it brags about |
| 17:49.18 | Wormy_ | OluapPlayer: http://imgur.com/gallery/ydaPM0Q |
| 17:49.38 | OluapPlayer | I'M LATE, I'M LATE |
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| 17:51.53 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/n3pxLLu |
| 17:53.18 | drom | I can recall there was an anime featuring a large star ship with a handful of laser weaponry mounted in a similar fashion to the placement of cannons in Resaissance-era ships |
| 17:53.19 | Wormy_ | How to make an enemy of Imgur |
| 17:53.54 | AdmiralPanda | so basically what you're trying to figure out is how the muzzle of the gun should look? |
| 17:54.17 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/j7gYmYO |
| 17:54.19 | drom | yep |
| 17:54.33 | AdmiralPanda | as small as functionally possible |
| 17:55.39 | Imperios | Wormy_: In what season of Doctor Who did the female Master appear? |
| 17:55.43 | AdmiralPanda | shape wouldn't matter too much I imagine, although circular is probably best |
| 17:55.46 | drom | Found it. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/spacegunconvent/lasercannon0.jpg The anime was "GunBuster" |
| 17:56.08 | Hachiman | "Somebody stole £800 worth in goods from Games Workshop last night; they stole a Codex, six paints, and a paint brush." |
| 17:56.27 | drom | And there is a front-view of the muzzle http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/spacegunconvent/lasercannon3.jpg |
| 17:57.00 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: While I do find that funny, it's so horribly inaccurate |
| 17:57.06 | Wormy_ | ImperiosL 8 |
| 17:57.17 | AdmiralPanda | you'd only get two cans of paint and a giffle ticket for that much at my local store |
| 17:57.27 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: Yes, it'd worth more |
| 17:57.32 | Imperios | Oh wait |
| 17:57.35 | Imperios | ninjad |
| 17:57.48 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/aT07h4A.jpg |
| 17:58.16 | Wormy_ | nsfw http://i.imgur.com/H5mdS2Q.jpg |
| 17:58.30 | Wormy_ | more cringe http://imgur.com/gallery/fFQBK |
| 17:58.32 | AdmiralPanda | in seriousness I actually started my new army recently, I'm about $300 in so far with three infantry squads, a walker and half a shelf's worth of paints |
| 17:58.35 | drom | gee, I don't know about you guys. I've zero idea about how and why is that "paint" so expensive? |
| 17:59.04 | AdmiralPanda | it's not, it's $6 for a pot that will last you for ages |
| 17:59.26 | Imperios | drom: Games Workshop and the associated companies produce almost all of the tools required to make and paint their miniatures, and thus raise the prices heavily |
| 17:59.30 | drom | I've several small cans of paint, all pretty much cheap. |
| 18:00.10 | drom | Imperios: Bleh, I'd just go to the local home supply store and get large cans of that. |
| 18:00.29 | Imperios | Plastic miniatures can't be painted by normal paints, that's the problem |
| 18:00.32 | AdmiralPanda | Imperios: you're forgetting the fact that the processes they use, the level of detail involved, and the fact that everything is made in the UK are what make the prices high, not htem being dicks |
| 18:00.54 | Hachiman | UK prices stronk |
| 18:00.55 | Wormy_ | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/G9ucLdm.jpg |
| 18:01.02 | Imperios | Well of course most of the stuff they make is very high-quality |
| 18:01.26 | Imperios | Still the prices bite |
| 18:01.52 | Imperios | I used to buy local acrylic paints instead |
| 18:02.25 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/QmYJKl7.jpg |
| 18:02.29 | drom | Paint from hobbist shops are also cheaper than that |
| 18:02.33 | AdmiralPanda | of course, you lot think you have it bad but you don't have to deal with the Australia tax |
| 18:03.05 | drom | I'm thankful that all the prices in Sweden always include tax. |
| 18:03.20 | drom | (Looking at you America) |
| 18:03.24 | Hachiman | drom: Paints from GW are always more recommended than paints from any other store |
| 18:03.24 | AdmiralPanda | and the joke went well over drom's head |
| 18:04.01 | drom | AdmiralPanda: I understand the tax in Australia is ludicrously high, but that's not what I referencing about. |
| 18:04.10 | Imperios | The GW paints are much better |
| 18:04.14 | AdmiralPanda | tax isn't high here |
| 18:04.15 | Hachiman | You could fit the entire observable universe into the space between the joke and drom's head |
| 18:04.15 | drom | I noticed that the prices in America NEVER include tax, it is included at checkout. |
| 18:04.32 | AdmiralPanda | what I was talking about is the fact that shipping anything here costs a ridiculous amount of money compared to anywhere else in the world |
| 18:04.45 | drom | But in Sweden, it is included at the tags. |
| 18:05.03 | AdmiralPanda | so GW's prices are even worse here, because they have to ship from Britain |
| 18:06.36 | drom | AdmiralPanda: I meant tariffs, import tax. |
| 18:07.00 | AdmiralPanda | most of the time it's not even that, it's just the sheer distance |
| 18:07.17 | AdmiralPanda | fuel being expensive and all |
| 18:08.47 | drom | Fair enough. |
| 18:11.54 | drom | bla bla shipping tax bla bla |
| 18:17.23 | Hachiman | So apparently the developers for Far Cry: Primal have been working with historical linguists in order to craft a unique language for the tribes in the game's setting derived from proto-European languages - or rather, a language that proto-European would stem from |
| 18:17.51 | AdmiralPanda | In other news, was watching some Killing Floor 2 gameplay, and immediately thought something similar would be absolutely fantastic for a random screwaround story in the fictionverse |
| 18:17.58 | Wormy_ | I love that sort of work, that goes into game worlds. |
| 18:18.46 | Hachiman | Since the game takes place 5,000 years before the rise of proto-European languages, the linguists had to hypothesize an even simpler language that proto-European would come from |
| 18:19.40 | Wormy_ | Also Hachi, Ewan McGregor is in talks for a return to Star Wars in an Obi Wan series of films or TV series. |
| 18:19.57 | Hachiman | I dunno if that would make much sense |
| 18:20.21 | Hachiman | Obi-Wan was supposed to be in exile on Tatooine in order to hide from the Empire after the fall of the Republic |
| 18:20.43 | Wormy_ | It could be based on Tatooine, and he did into adventures on the planet |
| 18:21.20 | OluapPlayer | he was hidden at ratatouille |
| 18:21.27 | Hachiman | kek |
| 18:21.44 | Hachiman | If there was a television series based around Obi-Wan, I would like to see him communicating with the Force ghost of Qui-Gon Jinn |
| 18:21.53 | Wormy_ | Definately |
| 18:29.30 | Imperios | Hachiman: You mean PIE |
| 18:29.39 | Imperios | There is no proto-European |
| 18:29.43 | Imperios | Only PIE |
| 18:30.08 | Imperios | The European languages are a sprachbund, not a family |
| 18:30.12 | OluapPlayer | y not cake |
| 18:30.25 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: We all speak languages born from PIE |
| 18:30.33 | Imperios | Save for Jepardi |
| 18:30.43 | OluapPlayer | y not languages born from cake |
| 18:30.52 | Imperios | Pies are better than cakes anyway |
| 18:31.15 | Imperios | Hachiman: Wait, when Far Cry: Primal takes place anyway |
| 18:31.41 | OluapPlayer | https://40.media.tumblr.com/df0e740e8675c5f6f5b648e0adfbf74f/tumblr_nvzm2nbfXu1sy6m2qo1_1280.jpg half-relevant |
| 18:32.10 | Hachiman | I think maybe 15,000 BC |
| 18:32.23 | Hachiman | Somewhere in the Stone Age |
| 18:32.45 | OluapPlayer | Did humans even exist that long ago? |
| 18:32.48 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/vnTEtSb.jpg |
| 18:32.52 | Hachiman | Ah right, the beginning of the Mesolithic Period, which is around 12,000 BC |
| 18:33.08 | Hachiman | metaatem |
| 18:33.20 | OluapPlayer | hOI! im bIG bASS |
| 18:33.20 | Imperios | ...Wow |
| 18:33.39 | Hachiman | And humans have existed for like a million years |
| 18:33.47 | Imperios | At that point you do not have to base your language on any language at all |
| 18:33.52 | OluapPlayer | Humans as in cavemen |
| 18:33.53 | Imperios | Where is the game set though |
| 18:34.13 | Hachiman | A fictional place called Oros |
| 18:34.17 | Hachiman | Somewhere in Europe though |
| 18:34.21 | OluapPlayer | I read that as Gros for a sec |
| 18:34.25 | Hachiman | Or what will become Europe |
| 18:34.25 | OluapPlayer | would've been a shi gaym |
| 18:34.26 | Imperios | >Europe |
| 18:34.31 | Imperios | >10,000 BCE |
| 18:34.36 | Imperios | >Anything based on PIE |
| 18:34.40 | Imperios | I'll kill the developers |
| 18:34.43 | OluapPlayer | >videogames |
| 18:35.02 | Wormy_ | Man served caustic soda instead of beer http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-35253155 |
| 18:35.08 | Imperios | If there was any language they should have based it on, it'd be Basque |
| 18:35.10 | Wormy_ | Could happen to anyone damnit |
| 18:35.17 | OluapPlayer | I'm sure that's a sensible mistake |
| 18:36.07 | Hachiman | To be fair, the developers originally had the characters speaking modern English but decided against it because it would be anti-immersive to the setting |
| 18:36.09 | Imperios | You mean soda |
| 18:36.34 | Imperios | But taking PIE as a base is not very sensible |
| 18:36.57 | OluapPlayer | Videogames are unrealistic |
| 18:37.12 | Imperios | The proto-Indo-European people are presumed to have migrated and replaced the local population of Europe much later on, not being indigenous to it |
| 18:37.13 | Hachiman | "they originally met with linguists who specialized in proto-European languages to develop a language for the game's Wenja tribe. However, they then had to work with the linguists to further simplify the language into something even more primitive, as the game takes place around 5000 years before the proto-European languages existed." |
| 18:37.39 | Imperios | Or indigenous but only to easternmost Europe |
| 18:37.43 | Imperios | Like somewhere around Crimea I think |
| 18:38.04 | Imperios | Hachiman: >ancient languages >primitive |
| 18:38.45 | Imperios | The Old Church Slavonic course was anything but "primitive" |
| 18:39.11 | Hachiman | Why don't you send an angry email to Ubisoft Montreal claiming you can do a better job hur |
| 18:39.14 | Imperios | Actually most European languages became simpler over time, rather than more difficult |
| 18:39.25 | Imperios | I would but I am a shit linguist hur |
| 18:39.32 | Imperios | *more complex |
| 18:39.41 | OluapPlayer | Also you're a nobody who has no power whatsoever hur |
| 18:40.15 | Imperios | Exactly hur |
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| 18:41.13 | Hachiman | Actually |
| 18:41.32 | Hachiman | Since the game features stuff like saber-tooth cats and mamoths, Oros could be set somewhere in Eurasia or America |
| 18:41.47 | Hachiman | mammoths even |
| 18:42.15 | Hachiman | Or Africa hur |
| 18:42.39 | Hachiman | Actually wait, saber-tooths were present in Europe as well |
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| 18:43.56 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: To answer your earlier question, the modern human evolved somewhere around 200,000 years ago |
| 18:44.14 | Hachiman | While proto-humans have existed for approximately six million years |
| 18:44.18 | Imperios | So these cavemen were cavemen but they looked mostly like us |
| 18:44.18 | OluapPlayer | Humans as in cavemen |
| 18:44.29 | Imperios | They were genetically identical to us |
| 18:44.44 | OluapPlayer | Unga-bunga, hit each other with clubs, tribes and shit |
| 18:44.46 | OluapPlayer | That kinda caveman |
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| 18:44.49 | Hachiman | Yes; humans as in cavemen existed 200,000 years ago |
| 18:44.58 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 18:45.11 | Imperios | So like if you took one to the present and taught them our culture etc, they wouldn't look out of place |
| 18:45.14 | OluapPlayer | That's surprising. I thought cavemen were like 15,000 years old max |
| 18:45.19 | Imperios | Like modern homo sapiens |
| 18:45.24 | OluapPlayer | randum |
| 18:45.35 | Imperios | But yeah the game is about cavemen apparently |
| 18:45.53 | OluapPlayer | The_Randomness: update ur bardy |
| 18:45.57 | The_Randomness | o rite |
| 18:46.07 | The_Randomness | I just need to add skill points, which I'll do right now |
| 18:47.35 | Imperios | Anyway PIE had like 15 case paradigms, OCS has like 7, modern Russian had 3, English has no cases at all |
| 18:47.38 | Imperios | So 1 |
| 18:48.03 | Imperios | Admittedly if they hired professional linguists they'd probably do their jobs well |
| 18:48.06 | AdmiralPanda | I continue to be pleased with the fact that I can horribly murder either of my party members with two average attacks |
| 18:48.14 | The_Randomness | Heh |
| 18:48.16 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:48.20 | OluapPlayer | no murderhobo allowed |
| 18:48.39 | Imperios | ...You know I wonder if I could be hired to make a conlang later in my life |
| 18:48.42 | Imperios | Would be awesome |
| 18:48.51 | Hachiman | I can imagine hur |
| 18:49.10 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: You are effectively my tool of destruction once I cast my spell combo on you |
| 18:49.22 | OluapPlayer | >my |
| 18:49.24 | OluapPlayer | wats dis possessive shi |
| 18:49.44 | Imperios | https://www.google.ru/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwilifLurpjKAhWJ93IKHcqIBv4QjBwIBA&url=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m0vuwb22Pn1rr8dh8o1_540.png&bvm=bv.110151844,d.bGQ&psig=AFQjCNE5_O7fdTIox7SBh-VFoRoswIeMWg&ust=1452278959862474 |
| 18:49.46 | Imperios | oops |
| 18:49.48 | Hachiman | *I* am the one with the spells that turn him into a griffon-slaying beast hur |
| 18:50.15 | AdmiralPanda | comparing my damage now to my damage when I was buffed up fighting the griffon, I lost a d6 and gained a +3 |
| 18:50.24 | OluapPlayer | idunno that griffin is a "lesser" thing yet it brought Cezar to what, 7 HP? |
| 18:50.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mileyCyrusMeme2.jpg dear Lord |
| 18:50.29 | Imperios | IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE |
| 18:50.45 | OluapPlayer | You'd not be making such claims to a Greater Griffin |
| 18:50.48 | AdmiralPanda | ten dudes with weapons they only barely knew how to use brought me to -2 |
| 18:50.59 | AdmiralPanda | the Griffon is a bitch |
| 18:51.07 | OluapPlayer | SQUAWK |
| 18:52.22 | Hachiman | The only combat drawbacks I can see to using the Enlarge Person + Bull's Strength combo on you is a lowered AC which you make up for with armour anyway |
| 18:53.05 | OluapPlayer | Panda doesn't have *that* much armor |
| 18:54.07 | AdmiralPanda | discounting magic I have a +6 from armour out of a potential +9 discounting shields, so I'd say I'm doing pretty well |
| 18:54.18 | AdmiralPanda | and it's not going to get that much better until I hit level 7 |
| 18:54.26 | OluapPlayer | Didn't Enlarge Dong put you at 15 AC? |
| 18:54.42 | AdmiralPanda | mainly because I value being able to move so I'm going to put off getting plate until then |
| 18:54.55 | AdmiralPanda | yeah, because -1 due to being large and the -2 to dexterity |
| 18:55.12 | AdmiralPanda | so my normal 17 (10+6+1) went down to 15 |
| 18:55.53 | OluapPlayer | I'll just say it's not hard for the griffin to get a 15 roll |
| 18:56.06 | OluapPlayer | Lowering your AC to it is a high risk strategy |
| 18:56.21 | Hachiman | To be fair he was getting hit anyway even before the Enlarge Person spell |
| 18:56.46 | OluapPlayer | In the realm of RNGsus, 2 points can save your life |
| 18:57.11 | Hachiman | We could have killed that griffin before it had managed to kill Panda anyway |
| 18:57.29 | OluapPlayer | If it killed Panda, no way you could hur |
| 18:57.37 | AdmiralPanda | to be honest, there are plenty of things weaker than a griffin that don't have much difficulty hitting AC15 |
| 18:57.55 | OluapPlayer | You'd lose all the 50+ damage he did |
| 18:58.00 | OluapPlayer | which gave me nightmares forever |
| 18:58.14 | Hachiman | If the griffin had killed Panda after his last roll, I could have simply popped my Magic Missile |
| 18:58.48 | The_Randomness | I just love how if I had rolled just a little bit higher on my damage rolls, we could've killed it |
| 18:59.02 | OluapPlayer | The bard stole the kill |
| 18:59.08 | Hachiman | Besides, I doubt the griffin would have been able to *technically* kill Panda though I do not doubt it could have knocked him unconscious |
| 18:59.17 | OluapPlayer | Don't underestimate me hur |
| 18:59.56 | OluapPlayer | You can gloat over your top skills after you kill it for real |
| 19:00.18 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair, if it even got me to -3 my average stabilisation roll is a fail |
| 19:00.32 | AdmiralPanda | -5 I mean |
| 19:01.31 | OluapPlayer | Until then, ur all scrubs |
| 19:01.32 | Hachiman | I want to see this griffin survive both buffed up Cezar and my Scorching Ray, Burning Hands, and consecutive Magic Missiles, plus whatever Auri has to offer in regards to combat |
| 19:01.52 | OluapPlayer | It might, and it might also rip you to shreds |
| 19:01.57 | OluapPlayer | All depends of your rolls hur |
| 19:02.23 | Hachiman | Well when Panda gets buffed he can basically almost never miss an attack |
| 19:02.43 | OluapPlayer | He can, if his rolls are bad |
| 19:02.49 | OluapPlayer | It's all in the dice |
| 19:03.12 | OluapPlayer | You're one natural 1 away from becoming bird food |
| 19:03.46 | AdmiralPanda | then hurry up and make it happen :) |
| 19:03.54 | AdmiralPanda | First rule of Night City, bitches |
| 19:04.04 | AdmiralPanda | nobody leaves alive |
| 19:04.08 | OluapPlayer | I don't make the dice's results hur |
| 19:04.37 | OluapPlayer | You might get a 2. In that case you'll just get nibbled a bit |
| 19:05.04 | AdmiralPanda | if I'm not dead it's because you didn't send a big enough griffin |
| 19:05.13 | Hachiman | Why do you wanna die so much hur |
| 19:05.19 | OluapPlayer | Well, it's called a lesser griffin for a reason |
| 19:06.00 | OluapPlayer | Naturally a nat 20 is a big griffin dinner. They probably taste good, the bird half at least |
| 19:14.56 | AdmiralPanda | anywho, make with the big things and big swords to kill the big things with :) |
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| 19:45.40 | Hachiman | Hi again Imp |
| 19:54.52 | Wormy_ | Hachiman, Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGYuobZLr7M |
| 19:55.34 | Imperios | I saw this |
| 19:55.36 | Imperios | With a nasheed added |
| 19:56.01 | Wormy_ | So did I hur |
| 19:56.25 | Wormy_ | Proves Barbies are part of the Satanic cxonspiracy |
| 19:59.02 | Wormy_ | apparently the flying doll was recalled due to causing facial injuries and even broken robs |
| 20:01.04 | drom | Oh no! My Rob is broken! |
| 20:03.39 | drom | Wormy_ Charles_Murray: There must be a better way http://i.imgur.com/YLCVEh7.png |
| 20:04.55 | Wormy_ | Can you try grouping them? |
| 20:07.30 | drom | I doubt that |
| 20:09.31 | drom | I can create groups, but they won't appear on the menu |
| 20:10.43 | drom | I've to switch the information display option to something else. |
| 20:14.56 | drom | DBZ tabletop RPG |
| 20:14.57 | drom | wat |
| 20:19.02 | AdmiralPanda | it's mediocre as spinoff RPGs go, which really says something |
| 20:19.27 | AdmiralPanda | that being said, there aren't many other RPG systems that accurately model the stupidity of DBZ combat, so it has that going for it |
| 20:20.02 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 20:20.03 | Hachiman | May as well just play the DBZ fighting games |
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| 20:28.26 | Xho | welkrfgj |
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| 20:28.41 | Xho | That almost came out as a word |
| 20:28.53 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 20:28.59 | Xho | Hi |
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| 20:29.33 | Tybusen | Greetings |
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| 20:30.28 | Tek0516 | I'm in the middle of three buildings so I think the campus wifi was messing up |
| 20:46.08 | Hachiman | http://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/cringe0095.png Cringe and rage |
| 20:46.59 | OluapPlayer | Population cull when |
| 20:47.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: Well, in actuality, Serbians are pretty dark-ish |
| 20:48.05 | Imperios | Like Balkans are hot |
| 20:48.16 | Imperios | And the Serbians were oppressed for centuries |
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| 20:48.38 | LuxorHere | Hello |
| 20:48.51 | LuxorHere | ...when was Cyrannian online lately? |
| 20:49.06 | Tybusen | Imperios: but nah man they're white so obviously they're all shitlords /s |
| 20:49.06 | OluapPlayer | Last week. He'll be away until after friday |
| 20:49.17 | LuxorHere | 2bad |
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| 20:51.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 20:51.55 | Tybusen | I've probably said this before but I've considered retconning James Lorrelas to have not married Natalie Grey after his first wife died |
| 20:52.03 | Imperios | Tybusen: You reminded me of that time when that Turkish woman banned all white people as well as all men from a student's union on the grounds that they were oppressors |
| 20:52.04 | Imperios | >Turkish |
| 20:52.31 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12507220_1721893684699550_490938550209071369_n.jpg?oh=6687f14c6fa2345339ca11c877f9f94a&oe=570E560B |
| 20:53.15 | Imperios | That looks like that creepy teddy bear SCP |
| 20:53.28 | Tybusen | I mean I'm pretty sure the modern Turks were pretty cool up until Erdogan got into office |
| 20:53.41 | Hachiman | Behold, a teddy bear made from placenta |
| 20:53.42 | Tybusen | Though the historical Turks were pretty bad too yeah |
| 20:53.53 | Tybusen | Hachiman: ech |
| 20:54.11 | Imperios | The Ottoman Empire oppressed a lot of indigenous peoples, and in the same period as European colonial empires too |
| 20:54.29 | Tybusen | Well yeah |
| 20:54.31 | Imperios | But yeah modern Turkey pre-Erdogan is cool |
| 20:54.34 | Imperios | was cool |
| 20:54.45 | Imperios | Like their architecture |
| 20:54.48 | Hachiman | Made by cutting the placenta in half and drying it with sea salt before being emulsified with egg yolk and tannin to make it soft and pliable |
| 20:54.48 | Tybusen | Erdogan is taking them back to the Ottoman era |
| 20:54.53 | LuxorHere | Ottoman Empire was indeed (quite) crazy country. |
| 20:55.10 | LuxorHere | Though architecture is typical to all muslim countries at this time |
| 20:55.26 | Imperios | Nope they have a more Byzantine-inspired style |
| 20:55.30 | Imperios | Like |
| 20:55.40 | Imperios | Arabic mosques are more boxy, Turkish ones are round |
| 20:55.43 | LuxorHere | Not really |
| 20:55.45 | Tybusen | Well, to be fair, most of the Muslim world was under Ottoman control at their height |
| 20:55.49 | Imperios | Tybusen: And in the way that Hitler took Germany back to the Kaiser era |
| 20:56.12 | LuxorHere | Tybusen: Timurids, Marocco, Hejaz, Yemen, Oman... well, there were plenty of countries. |
| 20:56.15 | Tybusen | Only Persia, Mughal India, and Indonesia were independent of the Ottomans |
| 20:56.26 | Imperios | And Persia was pretty much heretical |
| 20:56.30 | Tybusen | I thought Morocco was part of the empire? |
| 20:56.38 | LuxorHere | Persia = Shia = not Sunni |
| 20:56.42 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 20:56.44 | Imperios | HERETICS |
| 20:56.47 | LuxorHere | Shia = heretics |
| 20:56.52 | LuxorHere | shia = christian scums |
| 20:57.07 | LuxorHere | must blow them up with several sunni zealots |
| 20:57.08 | Imperios | Yes they act a lot like Christians for some reason |
| 20:57.29 | Hachiman | HOLLYWOOD SUPERSTAR SHIA LABEOUF |
| 20:57.33 | LuxorHere | Shia is Sunni faith merged with Zoroastrain |
| 20:57.45 | LuxorHere | Zoroastrian** |
| 20:57.56 | Imperios | Not really |
| 20:58.02 | LuxorHere | Quite of. |
| 20:58.05 | Tybusen | And somehow Iran ended up as one of the worst enemies of the great Christian nation of America |
| 20:58.21 | Imperios | I don't see any Zoroastrian influence there |
| 20:58.25 | LuxorHere | Tybusen: You meant The Greatest Goddamn Country on Earth |
| 20:58.41 | Imperios | Christian mayybe with their emphasis in martyrdom and saints |
| 20:58.44 | LuxorHere | Spreading Democracy with, |
| 20:58.45 | Imperios | *on |
| 20:58.46 | LuxorHere | well, |
| 20:58.47 | LuxorHere | bombs. |
| 20:58.56 | Imperios | Holy Christian Bombs of Freedom even |
| 20:59.55 | LuxorHere | Hachiman: JUST DO IT |
| 21:00.48 | Imperios | LuxorHere: The sacred tenet of Shi'a faith |
| 21:00.52 | Imperios | YA JUST DO IT |
| 21:00.55 | Imperios | YA AYATOLLAH |
| 21:00.57 | Imperios | YA LABEOUF |
| 21:01.20 | *** join/#sporewiki Monet (~Monet47@cpc90522-gill20-2-0-cust960.20-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 21:01.23 | LuxorHere | What did Shia Laveouf said to terrorist? |
| 21:01.28 | LuxorHere | Labeouf**, meh |
| 21:01.51 | Imperios | JUST |
| 21:01.52 | Imperios | BLOW |
| 21:01.53 | Imperios | UP |
| 21:01.55 | Wormy_ | ââ¬â â |
| 21:02.02 | Imperios | And so they did |
| 21:02.03 | OluapPlayer | That's a fat hi |
| 21:02.38 | Imperios | LuxorHere: http://40.media.tumblr.com/73d92cb256d9f146cecd2cffdad9945d/tumblr_nq3xi8BD4L1tu1fv2o1_1280.jpg |
| 21:02.46 | drom | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/qAY9pxI.png?1 |
| 21:02.47 | Wormy_ | It just seemed appropriate to blow up the font. |
| 21:03.20 | drom | I heard you wanted some pitchforks. Get em here! ---E ---E ---E ---E ---E ---E |
| 21:03.21 | Wormy_ | nice shadow efffects |
| 21:03.48 | The_Randomness | ââ¬â LET'S BUILD A LADDER ââ¬â |
| 21:04.02 | LuxorHere | ââ¬â |
| 21:04.10 | OluapPlayer | Broken |
| 21:04.13 | LuxorHere | meh |
| 21:04.13 | drom | Nah, it is just the wonky shading |
| 21:04.23 | Tybusen | When did this become a Twitch chat |
| 21:04.29 | Wormy_ | [21:03] <@The_Randomn.... ââ¬â |
| 21:04.46 | Wormy_ | [21:04] <Wormy_> [21:03] <@The_Randomn.... ââ¬â |
| 21:04.49 | Wormy_ | damnit |
| 21:04.55 | Monet | Lol |
| 21:04.58 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:05.02 | drom | ya bloodeth peasant |
| 21:05.31 | The_Randomness | We should poke the Civ V crew to see if we can continue one of our games |
| 21:05.40 | drom | I can |
| 21:06.14 | Monet | I have food to eat and Maya to work in. Sorry :( |
| 21:06.26 | Monet | I'm back at university |
| 21:06.26 | drom | Also, this new model of pitchfork is so trendy and modern! ---C |
| 21:06.40 | The_Randomness | aww |
| 21:06.47 | drom | stabs Monet with pitchfork |
| 21:09.27 | Imperios | Tybusen: Not enough smileys |
| 21:09.39 | Tybusen | :kappa: |
| 21:09.55 | The_Randomness | dude |
| 21:09.55 | Tybusen | ;) |
| 21:09.57 | Tybusen | ;U |
| 21:09.59 | The_Randomness | l2twitchchat |
| 21:10.27 | drom | not enuff of kappa |
| 21:10.35 | LuxorHere | Meh |
| 21:10.53 | Tybusen | kappakappakappakappakappakappakappa |
| 21:11.12 | Imperios | That |
| 21:11.17 | Imperios | kappakappakappa |
| 21:11.19 | Imperios | :smorc: |
| 21:11.20 | Imperios | :smorc: |
| 21:11.31 | Imperios | :smorc: :smorc: :smorc: :smorc: :smorc: |
| 21:11.36 | Tybusen | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 21:11.49 | drom | Wormy_: Unleash your power of lennies |
| 21:12.13 | AdmiralPanda | *static screech* Stupidity levels reaching critical |
| 21:12.30 | Wormy_ | â¬â´â¬â´â¤( ͡° ÍÊââ¬â´â¬â´ |
| 21:12.33 | Tybusen | I'M GIVIN HER ALL SHE'S GOT CAPTAIN |
| 21:12.38 | Hachiman | What the fuck is happening here |
| 21:12.43 | drom | Oh no. The fun-police is here. Run! |
| 21:12.47 | Wormy_ | ( ͡° ÍÊ ( ͡° ÍÊ ( ͡° ÍÊ ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) ÍÊ Í¡Â°)Ê Í¡Â°)Ê Í¡Â°) |
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| 21:13.50 | AdmiralPanda | ok that's it, who do I have to murder to make this all stop? |
| 21:13.56 | The_Randomness | Don't mind us, just shitposting |
| 21:14.15 | The_Randomness | points at Tybusen |
| 21:14.21 | OluapPlayer | stop pls |
| 21:14.23 | drom | AdmiralPanda: We demand the scarifical of a specific person... |
| 21:14.24 | The_Randomness | I swear, I had nothing to do with it! |
| 21:14.26 | Wormy_ | No more funï¼ Â´_âï½ï¼ |
| 21:14.44 | Tybusen | We must throw a virgin into the tallest volcano |
| 21:14.51 | Xho | So Danny Trejo actually voiced Raul Tejada |
| 21:14.57 | AdmiralPanda | howabout I shoot you in the face |
| 21:15.00 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: Indeed |
| 21:15.06 | Tybusen | I'm a virgin so it works out |
| 21:15.09 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 21:15.10 | The_Randomness | rofl |
| 21:15.23 | Hachiman | Did not think Trejo was involved in Fallout |
| 21:15.30 | OluapPlayer | TODAY YOU DIE, RAOOL. I COMMMMMAND IT |
| 21:15.32 | *** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@24.114.104.97) |
| 21:15.53 | AdmiralPanda | then I just need to shove Random into a tree chipper, Wormy into a compost compactor and Imperios into, iunno, a vodka still or something |
| 21:15.55 | Xho | Going for a Very Evil Mr. House playthrough |
| 21:16.01 | OluapPlayer | I don't know who this Trejo guy is, but he seems to be important |
| 21:16.05 | Xho | Mexican actor |
| 21:16.17 | OluapPlayer | Raul fits him well then |
| 21:16.20 | OluapPlayer | Since he's a ghoul vaquero |
| 21:16.28 | Monet | Trejo -> Trejada. Sounds almost like he was asked. |
| 21:16.28 | Xho | vaquero |
| 21:16.31 | Xho | y vaquero |
| 21:16.40 | drom | Face of a sundried tomato, still a great guy. |
| 21:16.45 | Monet | Tejada* |
| 21:16.51 | Hachiman | Trejo is a guy who plays intimidating and / or villainous Mexican characters, often criminals, in films while also being one of the nicest guys on the planet in real life |
| 21:17.05 | OluapPlayer | Raul is also the oldest character in the entire franchise |
| 21:17.07 | drom | Xho: Princess Fea http://i.imgur.com/W9YU3jj.jpg |
| 21:17.18 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:17.18 | Xho | Mr House is older I think |
| 21:17.23 | Xho | Then again he's being kept alive |
| 21:17.23 | Monet | Hachiman: I love how common that is in them ovie industry. |
| 21:17.26 | OluapPlayer | Nope, Raul is older |
| 21:17.45 | Hachiman | He says he likes to play unforgiveable villains who get their comeuppance because it serves as an example to children that becoming bad people will work against them |
| 21:17.48 | Monet | Apparently Alan Rickman is a joke-cracking teddybear in real life. |
| 21:17.55 | AdmiralPanda | Raul is 234, House is 261 |
| 21:17.59 | drom | The_Randomness Xho: It is even funnier since "fea" means ugly in spanish, apparently. |
| 21:18.01 | Xho | Sole Survivor could possibly be older than both of them |
| 21:18.06 | Xho | Drom: It does |
| 21:18.07 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I know |
| 21:18.10 | The_Randomness | That's why it's funny |
| 21:18.11 | OluapPlayer | Oldest ghoul then |
| 21:18.36 | Monet | What about that ghoul form point lookout? |
| 21:18.42 | Xho | There's a character in Fallout 4 called Daisy who's 270 |
| 21:18.55 | Hachiman | Isn't that the Super Mutant grandmother? |
| 21:19.01 | Xho | That's Lily |
| 21:19.05 | Hachiman | Ah right |
| 21:19.07 | Monet | That super-spy ghoul has got to be at least what, 240? |
| 21:19.43 | Xho | Desmond |
| 21:19.47 | Xho | Doesn't say how old Desmond is |
| 21:20.00 | Xho | At least 240 I guess |
| 21:20.28 | Xho | The Sole Survivor's chronologically put at around 230 |
| 21:20.33 | Monet | Desmond Lockeheart, that's it. |
| 21:20.48 | Xho | WHO IS DESMOND |
| 21:21.08 | OluapPlayer | Oldest ghoul from a non-Bethesda game aka the ones that matter hur |
| 21:21.22 | Xho | I wonder who would win in a fight between the Lone Wanderer, Courier and Sole Survivor |
| 21:21.29 | AdmiralPanda | Courier |
| 21:21.33 | Hachiman | Lone Wanderer |
| 21:21.39 | OluapPlayer | Courier |
| 21:21.41 | Monet | I supose it could also depend how many years before the Great War this spy was treated to become a ghoul. |
| 21:21.44 | Xho | I'd go for the Courier |
| 21:21.57 | OluapPlayer | Courier was shot in the head twice and it just made them angrier |
| 21:22.02 | AdmiralPanda | maybe the male Sole Survivor since military training, btu the Courier is a fucking mojave courier- that doesn't sound like much until you realise what kind of person you have to be to be a courier |
| 21:22.32 | Monet | Sole Survivor as in the Fallout 4 protagonist? |
| 21:22.34 | Hachiman | Hm I suppose that makes sense |
| 21:22.36 | OluapPlayer | Courier is also a potential cyborg if you go through Old World Blues |
| 21:22.41 | Xho | Monet: yeah |
| 21:23.07 | Monet | Isn't being cryogenically frozen cheatring when we're talking about ages? |
| 21:23.14 | Xho | The Courier's the only character of the three who's given the chance to be a fully-fledged badass as well |
| 21:23.19 | AdmiralPanda | Chronologically, no |
| 21:23.34 | Xho | The Lone Wanderer is an angsty kid and the Sole Survivor's a wet weekend as far as I can tell |
| 21:23.51 | OluapPlayer | SHAUN |
| 21:23.53 | Monet | Yeah but everyone else has actually lived for 200+ years. |
| 21:24.25 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFhyZG-l5qY Fallout 4 in a nutshell |
| 21:24.32 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: I made my judgement solely on the fact that one's a vault dweller, the other is 50% a retired soldier 50% lawyer, while the Courier is a mojave courier and therefore a badass in the job description alone |
| 21:24.36 | Hachiman | Oh wait sorry, I mistook the Lone Wanderer for the Vault Dweller |
| 21:24.49 | OluapPlayer | I'd have expected Xho to side with the Lone Wanderer hur |
| 21:25.03 | Monet | I agree with Panda about the Courier's creds: You need to be tough-as-adamantium to be a delivery man in the Mohave. |
| 21:25.11 | Xho | The Lone Wanderer's a 19 year old teenager with family issues |
| 21:25.14 | Xho | teenager |
| 21:25.16 | Xho | why did i |
| 21:25.17 | Hachiman | Vault Dweller as in the guy who single-handedly dismantled an entire Super Mutant army and defeated the Master as far as I remember |
| 21:25.23 | OluapPlayer | The Vault Dweller is the protag of Fallout 1 |
| 21:25.26 | OluapPlayer | aka the baddest of asses |
| 21:25.57 | OluapPlayer | The NCR has a statue of them iirc |
| 21:26.06 | Xho | I'd say the most badass character in Fallout is probably Ulysses though |
| 21:26.15 | OluapPlayer | DA BEAR AND DA BULL |
| 21:26.17 | AdmiralPanda | literally every Fallout protagonist has an epic thing they did, it comes with the territory |
| 21:26.19 | Xho | Also fucking HARD TO KILL |
| 21:26.37 | AdmiralPanda | and yeah Ulysses is 101% badass |
| 21:26.51 | AdmiralPanda | fighting alongside him was a treat |
| 21:26.55 | OluapPlayer | I couldn't understand a word Ulysses said, but I like him by his voice alone |
| 21:27.06 | Hachiman | Same reason you like Bane hur |
| 21:27.19 | OluapPlayer | Bane's speech makes sense |
| 21:27.28 | Hachiman | Barely |
| 21:27.29 | OluapPlayer | Ulysses sounds like someone trying to explain Dark Souls's plot |
| 21:27.44 | Hachiman | Oh wait you mean that way |
| 21:27.50 | Xho | That's about right |
| 21:27.51 | Hachiman | I thought as in difficult to understand |
| 21:28.01 | Xho | Ulysses is badass but he makes no sense |
| 21:28.01 | AdmiralPanda | there's only one part of Ulysses' various monologues I don't like, namely when you literally have to launch a nuke to progress, and then he chides you for choosing to launch it |
| 21:28.03 | Hachiman | Like as in sound-wise |
| 21:28.05 | OluapPlayer | No, I mean what he says sounds like nonsense to me |
| 21:28.21 | Xho | Well he is a new-world revolutionary psycho |
| 21:28.23 | OluapPlayer | DA BEAR AND DA BULL, DIS FLAG ON MY BACK, DAT MASHEEEEEEEEEEEEEN |
| 21:28.36 | AdmiralPanda | thing is everything else he says pretty well added up for me |
| 21:28.56 | Hachiman | You know, I wonder what playing a GURPS campaign would be like |
| 21:29.07 | OluapPlayer | I get his motivation, but only because I read about it after playing the DÃC |
| 21:29.09 | OluapPlayer | DLC even |
| 21:29.26 | OluapPlayer | From him alone, he sounded like he had gone full retard |
| 21:30.46 | OluapPlayer | Mr. House is my favorite character in the game though. I was sad there was no option to have him surrender peacefully in the NCR route |
| 21:31.46 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://40.media.tumblr.com/0102c3449f7549512648964554caa08a/tumblr_o0gfujLFz41r9rx7po1_540.jpg |
| 21:31.47 | AdmiralPanda | Why would he? That's literally the opposite of what he wants |
| 21:32.04 | Monet | "Missile silos exploded from beneath the ground, cracked the landscape. Sand, ash... the dead... the Divide skies became a graveyard." things liek this? |
| 21:32.05 | Monet | "No need to destroy the bear. Just cut its throat." |
| 21:32.06 | Monet | Sounds poetic to me. |
| 21:32.09 | Imperios | Hachiman: >- Khasar Khan of the Ulus of Khulan |
| 21:32.17 | Imperios | What do you mean the Fantasyverse has Jewish Zazane |
| 21:32.19 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Ladies and gentlemen, the Internet |
| 21:32.36 | Hachiman | What do you mean Jewish hur |
| 21:32.37 | OluapPlayer | Because I didn't want to have to shoot him in the leg and watch it get sent flying |
| 21:32.51 | Xho | lel |
| 21:32.56 | Imperios | The Khazars were a Jewish Turkic nation |
| 21:33.01 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 21:33.05 | Hachiman | That is purely a coincidence |
| 21:33.40 | Hachiman | Although if we go with traditional Mongolian pronunciation, it would be "Hasar" |
| 21:33.46 | OluapPlayer | If I can talk down the most violent man in Ceaser's Legion, I could also talk Mr. House down |
| 21:33.54 | Hachiman | Because the 'k' in Mongolian talk is silent for some reason |
| 21:34.12 | AdmiralPanda | You can talk down the most violent man in Caesar's Legion because he's a twat, House don't work that way |
| 21:34.24 | Xho | Lanius is quite dense though |
| 21:34.24 | Imperios | I think they have the same sound we do |
| 21:34.26 | OluapPlayer | House is also a bit of a twat at times hur |
| 21:34.28 | Imperios | "Kh" |
| 21:34.43 | AdmiralPanda | NCR wants Vegas, House wants Vegas, and they aren't going to share |
| 21:34.46 | OluapPlayer | I got 100 Speech, lemme speek |
| 21:34.46 | Imperios | Kh stands for the harsher, k-ish "h" |
| 21:34.47 | Imperios | Like |
| 21:34.50 | Xho | He's strategically intelligent, other than that it's kill, rape and pillage |
| 21:34.56 | Imperios | You know like the Scottish |
| 21:34.59 | Imperios | They say "loch" |
| 21:35.00 | Imperios | CHHHH |
| 21:35.03 | Hachiman | Ah right |
| 21:35.16 | AdmiralPanda | there's no way for the NCR win to line up with House's interests |
| 21:35.31 | OluapPlayer | And he had to get shrek'd because of it |
| 21:35.36 | OluapPlayer | his own fault not mine |
| 21:35.37 | Hachiman | Plus the Legion are a bunch of barbarians anyway so |
| 21:36.48 | OluapPlayer | I've not played New Vegas in a while |
| 21:36.53 | OluapPlayer | Last time I did, House ordered me to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel |
| 21:36.55 | OluapPlayer | Sounds like hard work |
| 21:36.56 | Monet | House is fully convinced that the NCR is a failure waiting to run its course. |
| 21:37.17 | Hachiman | Vault Dweller would not have any of that shit |
| 21:37.28 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/Gbe9KHs.jpg |
| 21:37.32 | Xho | OluapPlayer: It's hard |
| 21:37.53 | Monet | Because he's immortal, it might be House assumes he can just outlive the NCR. |
| 21:38.04 | Xho | So I'm going up Black Mountain |
| 21:38.11 | Xho | Every Super Mutant is a Master-rank |
| 21:38.17 | Xho | every single one |
| 21:38.22 | OluapPlayer | Master Mountain |
| 21:38.24 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair, if it weren't for an attractive lady with a high powered sniper rifle, he would be immortal |
| 21:38.31 | OluapPlayer | Did you get your way into level 50? |
| 21:38.37 | OluapPlayer | *cheat your way |
| 21:38.42 | Xho | I told you that I did |
| 21:38.50 | OluapPlayer | No you didn't hur |
| 21:39.01 | Xho | I've played through this game enough times to not be arsed to level up |
| 21:39.27 | Xho | So I just went insta-level 50 because quite frankly the levelling up system is boring the fifth time round |
| 21:39.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%BD#Mongolian And yes I was right that's how they pronounce it |
| 21:39.44 | Imperios | They even write it like we do |
| 21:39.53 | OluapPlayer | u deserve the master shrek army |
| 21:41.03 | Monet | Master Mountai nsounds like osmething the Master would devise were he still alive. |
| 21:41.22 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: Don't worry, all you need is an assault carbine and a small division's worth of 5mm AP ammo |
| 21:41.33 | Imperios | I find the fact that Mongolians now use Cyrillic for their language oddly karmic |
| 21:41.45 | Xho | I got an Anti-Materiel Rifle and a lot of .50MG ammo hur |
| 21:42.45 | AdmiralPanda | that'll do it too |
| 21:44.01 | AdmiralPanda | gotta say, I do love how they made energy weapons easier to use in F4 |
| 21:44.10 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/BjUYt.png meanwhile at Britain |
| 21:44.10 | Monet | Actually I suppose it demonstrates Mr House's genius that New Vegas would have been fully protected from nuclear attack had the Great War started a few days later. |
| 21:44.31 | Monet | later than it did* |
| 21:44.38 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: House was a pretty smart guy, for sure |
| 21:45.11 | AdmiralPanda | if it was me I wouldn't have had the console to open the door to my preservation chamber on the outside of said door, but eh |
| 21:47.28 | OluapPlayer | These shitty glasses I'm wearing made it look like you said Mouse at first |
| 21:48.16 | Monet | "really cold britain" funny ebcause there is such a thing as the British Antarctic Territory. |
| 21:48.41 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/BritishAntarcticTerritory.svg BRITUN |
| 21:49.37 | OluapPlayer | really cold britain is canon |
| 21:50.05 | AdmiralPanda | brb |
| 21:50.45 | Monet | I love how the largest land region Britain owns there is called "Queen Elizabeth Land" |
| 21:51.05 | Monet | Reminds me of the days when we used ot name every single fricking thing we found after Victoria. |
| 21:51.37 | drom | Ghelae Wormy_: While I could do the research by myself, but I'm on the mood to talk lot. Which element would be the most efficient to emit a pink/purple light? |
| 21:52.51 | drom | That being on a very wide application, imagine Xeon, but found in very every lamp. |
| 21:53.46 | Monet | Lake Victoria, Victoria Falls, the capital of the Seychelles, several Victorias in Canada, a Victoria in Chile, Guyana, a dozen American cities, places in Hong Kong... |
| 21:53.51 | Monet | We really loved old queen Vic. |
| 21:53.53 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (65b7d6b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.183.214.180) |
| 21:54.34 | AdmiralPanda | and I'm back |
| 21:54.50 | OluapPlayer | Welcome back |
| 21:55.06 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~yaaic@95.140.92.1) |
| 21:55.44 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/miley-cyrus-beyonce-hollywood-satanism-new-world-order-illuminati-goddess-kali-jay-z.jpg Goddess of Twerk |
| 21:56.06 | OluapPlayer | The All Seeing Eye wishes it was blind right now |
| 21:56.09 | Hachiman | ech |
| 21:56.47 | ImpyDroid | Was that referring to me |
| 21:56.54 | Monet | I think there are worse things the All-seeing eye has seen than Miley Cyrus. |
| 21:57.08 | OluapPlayer | >illuminati |
| 21:57.14 | OluapPlayer | I'm joking about your pic you dum ruskie |
| 21:57.29 | ImpyDroid | hur |
| 21:57.41 | Monet | WAIT |
| 21:57.46 | Monet | What if Miley Cyrus is a tool of the Illuminati? |
| 21:57.56 | OluapPlayer | Instrument of fear |
| 21:57.59 | ImpyDroid | The website I found this on believes so |
| 21:58.03 | Hachiman | I think it is somewhat amusing that the second largest belief demographic in the UK are atheists who stand at an almost equal number with Christians as of 2015 if I remember |
| 21:58.11 | ImpyDroid | The machine of twerkification |
| 21:58.29 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: What is strange about this? Atheism is fairly common nowadays |
| 21:58.39 | AdmiralPanda | given that the Illuminati was a social order aiming at egalitarian society and scientific development, I will start swinging a rubber mallet |
| 21:59.05 | ImpyDroid | AdmiralPanda: Not talking about the real Bavarian Illuminati |
| 21:59.06 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: I was really jsut entertaining the conspiracy. |
| 21:59.25 | AdmiralPanda | I'm fully aware of both of those points, hence the mallet |
| 22:00.20 | ImpyDroid | Well if so then well considering the popularity of twerj |
| 22:00.28 | ImpyDroid | Their evil plan is working |
| 22:00.33 | OluapPlayer | The only thing I know about the Illuminati comes from a radio program I listen to every so often, one of the guys pretends he's a member of it and he comes up with extremely absurd things about it |
| 22:01.07 | Xho | Bavarian Illuminati was actually quite a decent set up |
| 22:01.20 | OluapPlayer | He also claims he's friends with other Illuminati who are "siamese triplets linked together through an endoplasmatic membrane" |
| 22:01.36 | OluapPlayer | Needless to say, it's not a very serious show |
| 22:01.53 | Monet | It's main opposition was the king of Bavaria - who saw the intellectual Illuminati asa threat to his reign. |
| 22:01.57 | AdmiralPanda | steam's being dumb, brb |
| 22:02.18 | ImpyDroid | King - NEEEEERDS |
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| 22:02.38 | Hachiman | The Illunimati would, logically, be on the side of the people rather than the government |
| 22:02.39 | OluapPlayer | Aynach is the fantasyverse's Illuminati |
| 22:02.41 | OluapPlayer | Eyes everywhere |
| 22:02.42 | Primius | hey guys |
| 22:02.43 | Hachiman | It is ironic actually |
| 22:03.37 | Primius | what? |
| 22:03.56 | Xho | So it's currently 14.7 C upstairs |
| 22:03.58 | Xho | 2 fukin cold |
| 22:04.09 | OluapPlayer | Frosty |
| 22:04.42 | Xho | Apparently it's dropping down to sub-zero temperatures next week |
| 22:04.44 | Xho | not fun |
| 22:04.51 | Primius | I was in like |
| 22:04.53 | Hachiman | People believing the modern Illuminati to be aligned to the global governments when in fact the *actual* Illuminati - the Bavarian Illuminati - were an anti-monarchist group who were on the side of the people |
| 22:04.54 | Primius | -20 |
| 22:05.15 | Primius | but i got a treat |
| 22:05.24 | ImpyDroid | Maybe then they are working in the interests of the people |
| 22:05.30 | Primius | if treats are multicoloured, beautiful and interesting |
| 22:05.37 | Monet | Were they actually against the King or did they simply appose the idea of abusing state power? |
| 22:05.48 | Xho | If it's a pony GTFO |
| 22:05.56 | Primius | had seen a circumzenithal arc, a 22 degree halo and sundogs |
| 22:05.56 | ImpyDroid | Monet Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1452203482638.png |
| 22:06.10 | Wormy_ | drom: Well, pink and purple colours won't be emitted by any single element's emission spectra, but combinations of gases work. Like neon mixed with blue phospour, or argon/mercury mixed with a red phosphour. |
| 22:06.17 | Primius | idk if ponies are interesting :p |
| 22:06.18 | ImpyDroid | Primius: Where are you from again |
| 22:06.25 | Primius | huh?] |
| 22:06.29 | Primius | What do you mean? |
| 22:06.43 | Primius | "where i'm from"? |
| 22:06.50 | ImpyDroid | I mean you got treats today |
| 22:06.51 | Xho | So the average high in Las Vegas in summer is 40 C |
| 22:06.57 | ImpyDroid | Are you Orthodox or something |
| 22:07.01 | Primius | well |
| 22:07.04 | Xho | No wonder the NCR wish for a nuclear winter |
| 22:07.06 | ImpyDroid | Yeah where are you from |
| 22:07.08 | Primius | i am in southern Ontario |
| 22:07.14 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
| 22:07.18 | Primius | Haloes |
| 22:07.26 | ImpyDroid | I presumed you were talking about Christmas gifts |
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| 22:07.33 | ImpyDroid | And yes it is Christmas here today |
| 22:07.35 | Primius | xD |
| 22:07.45 | Primius | ok heres 22 degree haloes |
| 22:07.46 | Primius | https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AVNG_enCA651CA651&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=22%20degree%20halo |
| 22:07.47 | Hachiman | Bit late komrad |
| 22:07.55 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Orthodox |
| 22:08.07 | Hachiman | Wait, you're an Orthodox Christian? |
| 22:08.11 | Primius | https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AVNG_enCA651CA651&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=sundog |
| 22:08.15 | Primius | uh |
| 22:08.17 | Primius | yeah |
| 22:08.36 | Primius | uh |
| 22:08.38 | Primius | we arent |
| 22:08.40 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Only as much as you are an Anglican |
| 22:09.00 | Hachiman | So not at all hur |
| 22:09.03 | Monet | Orthodox family. |
| 22:09.07 | Primius | evangelical |
| 22:09.13 | Hachiman | My family is an atheist one |
| 22:09.13 | Wormy_ | drom: Some gases emit violet wavelengths (I could be being pedantic about violet vs. purple), a quick search includes hydrogen, Deuterium, nitrogen or argon. |
| 22:09.16 | ImpyDroid | Primius: When you talked about receiving treats I thought you were talking about Christmas gifts |
| 22:09.37 | ImpyDroid | We are Orthodox but not really that religious |
| 22:09.41 | Xho | Christimas was in December you Russian weirdo and your 6th Januay Christmases |
| 22:09.45 | Xho | January even |
| 22:09.50 | Hachiman | 7th January |
| 22:10.01 | OluapPlayer | u fail twice |
| 22:10.02 | Xho | Well I wrecked myself there |
| 22:10.05 | Primius | xD |
| 22:10.08 | Primius | it was haloes |
| 22:10.09 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Yes but fuck the Pope |
| 22:10.22 | ImpyDroid | We told the Pope to GTFO before it was cool |
| 22:10.23 | Hachiman | He has got little boys to do that for him |
| 22:10.29 | ImpyDroid | Exactly |
| 22:10.31 | Primius | this is close to what i saw: |
| 22:10.31 | Primius | https://www.google.ca/search?q=circumzenithal+arc&rlz=1C1AVNG_enCA651CA651&espv=2&biw=1360&bih=667&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKy-fH25jKAhXCpR4KHcqwDNoQsAQIJQ#imgrc=YfV4AptS9Ep37M%3A |
| 22:10.36 | ImpyDroid | While our priests can actually have sex |
| 22:10.45 | ImpyDroid | Hence much less problems with kids |
| 22:10.54 | Hachiman | Are there female Orthodox priests? |
| 22:10.55 | Primius | the upside-down rainbow on the top was a faint white arc to me |
| 22:11.05 | Primius | shrugs @Hachima |
| 22:11.11 | Primius | Hachiman* |
| 22:11.20 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: No, we aren't Swedes |
| 22:11.32 | Primius | brb |
| 22:11.35 | ImpyDroid | So no lesbian bishops unfortunately |
| 22:11.42 | Hachiman | Fucking what's the point of allowing Orthodox priests to have sex if there are no women in their clergy what the fuck |
| 22:12.07 | OluapPlayer | have sex with other women you demented idiot hur |
| 22:12.08 | Technobliterator | this sounds like a very typical question for Hachi to ask |
| 22:12.24 | OluapPlayer | http://www.starwars.com/news/meet-fn-2199-a-k-a-tr-8r-the-stormtrooper-behind-the-meme LOYALTY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED |
| 22:12.50 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, have you seen the other films yet? |
| 22:12.58 | OluapPlayer | I ahven't |
| 22:13.05 | Technobliterator | Ah |
| 22:13.20 | Technobliterator | I would highly recommend The Empire Strikes Back, though the other films are pretty missable |
| 22:13.30 | ImpyDroid | What about the Church of England? |
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| 22:13.43 | Hachiman | I fucking knew that TR8-T0R had history with Finn |
| 22:13.45 | Hachiman | Hai Panda |
| 22:13.46 | Monet | Impydroid: Can Orthodox clerics marry? |
| 22:13.46 | Wormy_ | drom: It is funny you ask me this, because right now I'm studying use of colour and lighting in scientific visualisation |
| 22:13.58 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: http://www.starwars.com/news/meet-fn-2199-a-k-a-tr-8r-the-stormtrooper-behind-the-meme |
| 22:14.04 | Monet | CoE has female clergy. |
| 22:14.22 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Yeah |
| 22:14.28 | Hachiman | Turns out TR8-T0R's real designation is FN-2199 |
| 22:14.34 | OluapPlayer | >Who wouldnât want to see round two⦠|
| 22:14.44 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Fuck non-priest women obviously |
| 22:14.45 | OluapPlayer | TR8-T0R confirmed back for sequelsa |
| 22:14.47 | OluapPlayer | sequels even |
| 22:14.52 | Technobliterator | it's a real shame they did literally nothing with Phasma |
| 22:15.00 | Hachiman | Phasma is the new Boba Fett |
| 22:15.03 | Technobliterator | she could've been cool and unique |
| 22:15.04 | ImpyDroid | You are a priest, you have a wife, she is not a priest |
| 22:15.07 | Technobliterator | but instead she does literally nothing |
| 22:15.15 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Yeah it kind of sucks |
| 22:15.22 | Technobliterator | no, she's worse than Boba Fett |
| 22:15.24 | ImpyDroid | Still Phasma is my waifu |
| 22:15.27 | Hachiman | Well Abrams could only have so much feminism in the film |
| 22:15.32 | Hachiman | We already have a female lead, |
| 22:15.34 | Technobliterator | Boba Fett had few lines of dialog but was an interesting character |
| 22:15.49 | Technobliterator | Phasma had a few lines of dialog and literally did nothing |
| 22:15.51 | Technobliterator | also |
| 22:15.52 | The_Randomness | Who was Phasma again? |
| 22:15.59 | OluapPlayer | I've not watched the other movies yet because movies are very long things, and in that time I could be playing games or doing fiction |
| 22:16.04 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Phasma takes off her helmet to reveal a pink mohawk |
| 22:16.05 | OluapPlayer | Preferably the latter |
| 22:16.08 | Technobliterator | I don't see how introducing a stormtrooper who happens to be female is suddenly feminism |
| 22:16.22 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 22:16.25 | Hachiman | Because all Stormtroopers beforehand were seen to be male grr |
| 22:16.25 | ImpyDroid | The_Randomness: The silver lady stormtrooper |
| 22:16.31 | Technobliterator | yeah but |
| 22:16.33 | Technobliterator | they're not clones anymore |
| 22:16.34 | The_Randomness | Yeah, figured that out |
| 22:16.38 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: But logically speaking there can be one |
| 22:16.51 | Technobliterator | so there's no reason for them to be specifically male or female in the First Order |
| 22:17.03 | Hachiman | I want Phasma to get replaced by an old veteran from the time of the Clone Wars |
| 22:17.08 | Technobliterator | if anything, it makes more canonical sense for at least one of the First Order people to be female |
| 22:17.15 | OluapPlayer | I want you to write fiction, we don't get all we want |
| 22:17.34 | Technobliterator | No, nothing's wrong with Phasma, everything's wrong with the fact she did literally nothing in the film |
| 22:17.45 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Yes, a genetic mishap clone whose Y chromosome was accidently replaced >:3 |
| 22:17.53 | Hachiman | Do not fucking trigger me |
| 22:18.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Phasma's pretty lame... |
| 22:18.08 | Monet | One problem with the Clone War Veteren wish: Said clone would be 60-ish |
| 22:18.13 | Technobliterator | Phasma's not lame. Her role is lame. |
| 22:18.14 | ImpyDroid | The clones have all died off |
| 22:18.18 | Hachiman | non |
| 22:18.18 | ImpyDroid | By that time |
| 22:18.25 | OluapPlayer | I seriously hope you're not getting pissy over this |
| 22:18.31 | Hachiman | I'm joking hur |
| 22:18.36 | Wormy_ | This is Phasma unmasked http://40.media.tumblr.com/820235c31ae19ec1794c40be9a526160/tumblr_o0f26snckK1u6s820o1_1280.jpg |
| 22:18.38 | ImpyDroid | The clones are already old men by episode 4 |
| 22:18.44 | OluapPlayer | I'd not like to have to kick you |
| 22:18.48 | Hachiman | But Phasma is lame, I prefered her actress in Game of Thrones |
| 22:18.49 | ImpyDroid | Tall waifu |
| 22:18.59 | Hachiman | Brienne of Tarth |
| 22:19.04 | Primius | holy shit |
| 22:19.05 | AdmiralPanda | you and your waifus |
| 22:19.08 | ImpyDroid | qt silver armour |
| 22:19.12 | Primius | there is a HORRIBLE page |
| 22:19.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 22:19.20 | Monet | WOrmy_: I love how manic-exited she looks |
| 22:19.24 | OluapPlayer | More than one waifu will ruin your laifu |
| 22:19.25 | AdmiralPanda | honestly, wasn't a fan of the silver armour |
| 22:19.31 | Hachiman | Neither was I |
| 22:19.36 | Primius | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AThe_Vox |
| 22:19.46 | Monet | Phasma - I'm a great target! |
| 22:19.47 | Hachiman | The new Stormtrooper design is cool but she stuck out like a sore thumb |
| 22:19.55 | Primius | "If you are an empire ruler reading this page, please note that you and the Vox are now at war. Prepare to be obliterated." |
| 22:19.59 | Primius | ok wtf is this |
| 22:20.13 | DrodoEmpire | Not horrible. Needs a lot of work and direction |
| 22:20.17 | DrodoEmpire | But that's all |
| 22:20.18 | Hachiman | I do not see why the Clones would have died off |
| 22:20.24 | AdmiralPanda | A new user that Hachi is probably going to suggest we ban. |
| 22:20.24 | Hachiman | Oh wait accelerated aging |
| 22:20.28 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: They age twice as fast yeah |
| 22:20.28 | Monet | HAchiman: Age |
| 22:20.31 | Technobliterator | because they don't want to use Clones anymore |
| 22:20.35 | OluapPlayer | It's a 6 year old page, it doesn't matter |
| 22:20.41 | Primius | oh OluapPlayer |
| 22:20.44 | Monet | Even without accelerated age we're talking about an army of 60-year-olds. |
| 22:20.46 | AdmiralPanda | Hachi: Because A) accelerated aging, and the ones still in the Empire all got blowed up on the Death Star |
| 22:20.53 | AdmiralPanda | and B) the ones e.t.c. |
| 22:21.00 | DrodoEmpire | And even if they were alive, they'd be far too elderly to serve |
| 22:21.01 | Technobliterator | also |
| 22:21.34 | Technobliterator | I don't see why you're upset about the fact that they decided to include a female character in the First Order |
| 22:21.42 | Hachiman | I am not, I was joking |
| 22:21.52 | Technobliterator | oh ok |
| 22:21.52 | Wormy_ | Some clones appear in Star Wars Rebels, they were old, grumpy and a bit past their time even then |
| 22:21.56 | Technobliterator | I missed that part :V |
| 22:21.57 | OluapPlayer | He was just pretending to be retarded |
| 22:22.00 | DrodoEmpire | its just a prank brah |
| 22:22.00 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 22:22.07 | DrodoEmpire | eks-deedeedee |
| 22:22.09 | Hachiman | I am actually retarded but there I was pretending |
| 22:22.15 | ImpyDroid | Well it would be weird if half of the stormies were women, but one girl makes sense |
| 22:22.22 | Technobliterator | thing is |
| 22:22.30 | Finnius | hhhh |
| 22:22.49 | Technobliterator | this is the first female villain in a mainline Star Wars film |
| 22:22.55 | ImpyDroid | Actually yes |
| 22:22.56 | OluapPlayer | Consider that half of mankind is female |
| 22:22.59 | ImpyDroid | Just realized that |
| 22:23.02 | Technobliterator | and they did absolutely nothing with it |
| 22:23.02 | OluapPlayer | You'd expect far more than one to exist |
| 22:23.08 | Finnius | just under half OluapPlayer |
| 22:23.16 | Technobliterator | Finnius, nope, just over half |
| 22:23.21 | Hachiman | Eh that is debatable as to whether half of mankind actually is female |
| 22:23.23 | Hachiman | It is not equal |
| 22:23.25 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: But probably not in the military hur |
| 22:23.28 | Monet | Mainline star wars film yeah |
| 22:23.36 | OluapPlayer | 51% of mankind is female |
| 22:23.38 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: More women than men |
| 22:23.40 | Wormy_ | Last I checked, there were slightly more women. |
| 22:23.41 | ImpyDroid | mankind |
| 22:23.45 | Monet | Well technically Zam Wessel was the first but she only had a minor role. |
| 22:23.51 | ImpyDroid | I think that 100% of mankind is male |
| 22:23.59 | ImpyDroid | MANkind |
| 22:24.05 | Hachiman | There are probably more women because of the effects of war and such |
| 22:24.09 | OluapPlayer | In that case, mankind would also be 100% dead |
| 22:24.10 | Finnius | i thought that it was a tiny bit less |
| 22:24.12 | DrodoEmpire | Oluap: Yes, but at least modern militaries tend to have more male personnel. There is evidence that males are better suited on average for the rigours of warfare though this is still being debated |
| 22:24.17 | Wormy_ | Don't be kind to Men ImpyDroid |
| 22:24.20 | Technobliterator | well, I doubt that's the reason |
| 22:24.27 | Technobliterator | I think it's just that women are born more often |
| 22:24.37 | Technobliterator | Now, consider that China makes up a huge portion of the world's population |
| 22:24.38 | Finnius | waits for someone to yell TRAITOR in ths chat |
| 22:24.39 | OluapPlayer | I'm not saying half of the Stormtroopers are female |
| 22:24.50 | OluapPlayer | I'm saying there should be more than one |
| 22:24.53 | Technobliterator | and due to its One Child Policy, lots of the children born there are male |
| 22:24.54 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 22:25.01 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Also women are tougher biologically |
| 22:25.02 | Finnius | wait |
| 22:25.06 | Hachiman | wat |
| 22:25.13 | Finnius | you only get one child in China? |
| 22:25.13 | Hachiman | How are women biologically tougher than men |
| 22:25.15 | Monet | Well to be fair the only way we could tell Phasma was a woman was a bigger breastplate and a female voice. |
| 22:25.24 | DrodoEmpire | Really Finnius? Surprised? :p |
| 22:25.32 | Finnius | yeah |
| 22:25.34 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, more resilient to pain, longer average lifespan? |
| 22:25.34 | Finnius | i mean |
| 22:25.38 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: The organism of a potential mother is more resistant to diseases etc |
| 22:25.44 | Technobliterator | They do have 25% lesser upper body strength, though |
| 22:25.45 | ImpyDroid | My mother worked in the nursery |
| 22:25.52 | Hachiman | Eh suppose that is fair enough |
| 22:25.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, there used to be a law (repealed as of 2015) that only one child was aloud per family |
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| 22:26.07 | DrodoEmpire | This was put in place during the 59s I believe to stem population growth |
| 22:26.10 | Technobliterator | allowed* |
| 22:26.11 | Technobliterator | sorry |
| 22:26.11 | Finnius | China should be shrinking if only 1 child |
| 22:26.11 | DrodoEmpire | *50s |
| 22:26.16 | DrodoEmpire | That was the idea |
| 22:26.20 | DrodoEmpire | It worked... Sorta |
| 22:26.22 | Technobliterator | Finnius, that was the whole point |
| 22:26.26 | Technobliterator | its population was bloated |
| 22:26.26 | ImpyDroid | She said that, in the exact same conditions when a newborn is diseased or otherwise threatened |
| 22:26.36 | Finnius | also what happened if u had 2 children? |
| 22:26.38 | ImpyDroid | The girl will live while the boy will die |
| 22:26.56 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.59 | DrodoEmpire | But it threw China into a demographic crisis (too many old people and not enough young people to support them) and also messed up Male-Female ratio |
| 22:27.00 | Hachiman | In any case |
| 22:27.08 | Hachiman | Phasma is the new Boba Fett |
| 22:27.12 | DrodoEmpire | FInnius: There were a *lot* of legal loopholes in the policy |
| 22:27.15 | Finnius | haha |
| 22:27.25 | Finnius | Boba fETTE |
| 22:27.26 | Hachiman | She is just there to stand around and look cool and intimidating |
| 22:27.30 | DrodoEmpire | SO a lot of people had more than one kid anyway |
| 22:27.34 | Wormy_ | China does actually face a problem that even with a two-child policy, they are going to have a huge *aged* population |
| 22:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:27.42 | Finnius | k |
| 22:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | It solves little |
| 22:27.43 | OluapPlayer | That job belongs to TR8-T0R |
| 22:27.46 | Technobliterator | except Boba Fett actually did something |
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| 22:27.48 | Monet | I thought what was the case was if you had more than one child the government would simply refuse to give child support. |
| 22:27.51 | Technobliterator | Phasma did not |
| 22:27.54 | Technobliterator | of course |
| 22:27.59 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Possibly |
| 22:27.59 | Technobliterator | he only did stuff in Episode V |
| 22:28.03 | Technobliterator | which was the best Star Wars film |
| 22:28.14 | Hachiman | TR8-T0R also did something so he is automatically better than Phasma |
| 22:28.16 | Monet | Phasma opened a door...that's pretty much it. |
| 22:28.22 | DrodoEmpire | But I think if you filed enough paperwork and bribed the right people that worked too |
| 22:28.22 | Technobliterator | of course |
| 22:28.29 | Wormy_ | Monet: I believe parents got fined extortionately if they had more than one child without permission. |
| 22:28.32 | Technobliterator | Phasma looked cool and intimidating and bossed around one of the leads |
| 22:28.34 | Technobliterator | then did nothing else |
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| 22:28.40 | Ghelae | drom, Wormy_: Late for the discussion, but anyway: It's not just enough for an element to emit light in some particular colours; what you want is for *all* of the visible light to be in those colours. It depends on what you want it for. I'm sure some combination of semiconductors could be made into pretty much any colour of LED, in principle. |
| 22:28.45 | Technobliterator | because Abrams was like "uhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhh how do I write this character in wtf" |
| 22:28.53 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Anyway that's mostly because the organism of a mother needs to survive for at least as long so as to bear a child and raise it |
| 22:29.02 | ImpyDroid | While guys are free to die hur |
| 22:29.04 | Monet | Technobliterator: Just like a real-life XO *ba-dum-tich* |
| 22:29.05 | Hachiman | rite that makes sense |
| 22:29.26 | Guest38544 | HOLY SHIT NICKSERV |
| 22:29.37 | The_Randomness | rekt |
| 22:29.39 | ImpyDroid | But yeah Phasma needs to do more stuff |
| 22:29.57 | ImpyDroid | For some reason I imagine her as having been a sniper once |
| 22:29.59 | FN2187ius | ~kill The_Randomness |
| 22:29.59 | infobot | ACTION shoots a inverse fluxpositrino gun at The_Randomness |
| 22:30.01 | Hachiman | I hope FN-2199 survived TFA and gets to return and do battle again, leading his own personal squad of elite riot-guard |
| 22:30.04 | FN2187ius | :) |
| 22:30.13 | Monet | I do wonder now if Phasma is essentially a dark horse. |
| 22:30.18 | The_Randomness | I am a mod, invincible to the feeble attacks of plebs |
| 22:30.30 | FN2187ius | eats The_Randomness |
| 22:30.33 | The_Randomness | ~whalenuke FN2187ius |
| 22:30.33 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around FN2187ius with his mind powers. |
| 22:30.41 | FN2187ius | haha wtf |
| 22:30.45 | FN2187ius | farts away |
| 22:30.57 | Monet | SHe didn't have much to do - her role was as massive as another stormtrooper or that guy who tells Luke "this guy and me don't like you" |
| 22:31.27 | Hachiman | There is no reason for FN-2199 to not earn a promotion for his performance after assisting in the capture of Finn, Han, and Chewbacca |
| 22:31.31 | Monet | It's just she looked really cool doing it. |
| 22:31.34 | Monet | ...and ended up on the poster |
| 22:31.53 | FN2187ius | ~whalenuke The_Randomness |
| 22:31.53 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around The_Randomness with his mind powers. |
| 22:31.57 | ImpyDroid | We all agree Pharms needs more character |
| 22:31.58 | Technobliterator | Star Wars has a history of creating characters solely for merchandise |
| 22:31.59 | FN2187ius | :) |
| 22:32.01 | ImpyDroid | Phasma |
| 22:32.06 | Wormy_ | BB8 |
| 22:32.07 | Hachiman | He could have easily survived that injury he sustained and got cybernetically-enhanced |
| 22:32.10 | Technobliterator | and then giving them very tiny roles |
| 22:32.18 | Wormy_ | I already got the droid so it worked on me. |
| 22:32.19 | Monet | Hachiman: Surely every Stormtrooper who survied the assault would be eligible for a promotion by that logic? |
| 22:32.29 | Technobliterator | see: everyone in The Phantom Menace |
| 22:32.37 | ImpyDroid | But this being fucking Star Wars we will likely see that in a spinoff or something |
| 22:32.44 | ImpyDroid | Not in the movie itseld |
| 22:32.57 | Hachiman | To be fair Maul played a rather significant part |
| 22:33.00 | Wormy_ | We actually need more Jar Jar |
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| 22:33.11 | NappingPanda | If anyone wants to beep me do so here, no guarantees I'll hear it |
| 22:33.11 | Wormy_ | So we can have more to laugh about. |
| 22:33.15 | The_Randomness | Jar Jar the Sith overlord, right? |
| 22:33.21 | Technobliterator | Maul wasn't as much of a problem as the other characters |
| 22:33.24 | Monet | All Maul really did was fight the hero Jedi. |
| 22:33.37 | Monet | He had barely any lines |
| 22:33.37 | Technobliterator | and Maul was good doing it |
| 22:33.43 | DrodoEmpire | I'll be back |
| 22:33.45 | Hachiman | Maul did not need to speak |
| 22:33.53 | Technobliterator | probably better than Dooku |
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| 22:34.06 | ImpyDroid | Maul had a unique appearance and at least fought |
| 22:34.08 | Technobliterator | can we all agree that Padme is a complete waste of Natalie Portman |
| 22:34.12 | ImpyDroid | She did not even do that |
| 22:34.12 | Monet | THen again given Lucas, not giving characters lines is perhaps a *good* thing. |
| 22:34.15 | Technobliterator | and Mace Windu is a massive waste of Samuel L Jackson |
| 22:34.23 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 22:34.27 | Technobliterator | like it's not even funny |
| 22:34.27 | Monet | It means actors aren't saddled with corny lines and can express though body language. |
| 22:34.31 | FN2187ius | ~destroy The_Randomness |
| 22:34.31 | infobot | no |
| 22:34.31 | Hachiman | Mace Windu should have got more action and screentime |
| 22:34.46 | Technobliterator | of course, this was Lucas as the director |
| 22:34.56 | Technobliterator | who refuses to let anyone get their way other than himself |
| 22:34.56 | FN2187ius | ~obliterate The_Randomness |
| 22:35.05 | Monet | I do wonder if we shoudl also bear the producers i nmind |
| 22:35.15 | NappingPanda | I think we can all agree that having Natalie Portman is always acceptable, regardless of whether or not the role made good use of the casting |
| 22:35.19 | FN2187ius | ~kill herself |
| 22:35.19 | infobot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-proton gun at herself |
| 22:35.23 | The_Randomness | Goodness, calm down. You're just being annoying at this point. |
| 22:35.27 | Monet | Wait hang on I just need ot refresh my memory on Abrams' role |
| 22:35.28 | FN2187ius | ok |
| 22:35.31 | FN2187ius | i will |
| 22:35.38 | FN2187ius | but antiproton guns |
| 22:35.46 | Technobliterator | Han Solo's best dialog is all improvised, but would Lucas have allowed any improvisation? |
| 22:36.05 | Monet | JJ produced, directed and wrote Star Wars. |
| 22:36.10 | Technobliterator | Lucas basically didn't let Samuel L Jackson be Samuel L Jackson |
| 22:36.15 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of other villains, is it just me or doesKylo Ren |
| 22:36.17 | Technobliterator | because he's actually a trash director |
| 22:36.19 | ImpyDroid | look like Zuko |
| 22:36.30 | Technobliterator | notice how the two best Star Wars films were the ones that did not involve him |
| 22:36.30 | Hachiman | Not to me hur |
| 22:36.30 | NappingPanda | how dare you insult Zuko like that |
| 22:36.33 | NappingPanda | and no |
| 22:36.35 | Monet | ImpyDroid: To me he looks like he's trying hard to be Darth Revan. |
| 22:36.36 | Technobliterator | at least not as a director |
| 22:37.00 | ImpyDroid | I mean the Shyamalan Zuko |
| 22:37.11 | ImpyDroid | This creature has no honour to be insulted |
| 22:37.23 | NappingPanda | Kylo Ren is a skinny wimp who achieves exactly nothing except look like a skinny wimp |
| 22:37.36 | Technobliterator | Episode IV is one of the most overrated films in cinema history and in retrospect was actually really bad |
| 22:37.39 | Monet | When it comes to film, its not just the director who could fuck up the plot/story. The producers and the wrighters can do it as well. |
| 22:37.42 | Technobliterator | Episode V was an incredible film |
| 22:37.47 | Hachiman | To be fair, I do not think Kylo Ren was written to be a badass |
| 22:37.52 | Technobliterator | Episode VI was ok |
| 22:38.29 | Hachiman | I think his lack of badassery was an intentional thing |
| 22:38.38 | Technobliterator | Episode VII is awesome and I suspect the reason is because Lucas had nothing to do with it |
| 22:38.41 | Technobliterator | also, Kylo Ren sucks |
| 22:38.42 | ImpyDroid | He was hilarious though |
| 22:38.44 | Technobliterator | sorry |
| 22:38.47 | ImpyDroid | And kind of emotional |
| 22:38.57 | Hachiman | He is written to be fickle and uncertain |
| 22:38.59 | Monet | IV yeah I kind-of agreed with Techno: It was derivative, pulpy, fairy-tale rubbish. But it was rubbish that could be sold. |
| 22:39.05 | ImpyDroid | Whenever he threw a tantrum he was ducking laughable |
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| 22:39.22 | NappingPanda | everyone in the theatre laughed the first time he threw a tantrum |
| 22:39.26 | Technobliterator | Kylo Ren completely failed to be intimidating or really compelling as a villain at all |
| 22:39.37 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: >awesome >rehashes everything from episode IV |
| 22:40.00 | ImpyDroid | Monet: It was innovative in terms of special effects and the like though |
| 22:40.05 | NappingPanda | I do think they made a mistake in having Kylo take off his mask |
| 22:40.07 | Ghelae | Erm, Kylo just inherited the Skywalker family trait of whininess. Of course it's deliberate. |
| 22:40.08 | Monet | That riot shield trooper came from concept art for Episode IV |
| 22:40.10 | ImpyDroid | Sort of like Avatar |
| 22:40.21 | Technobliterator | ImpyDroid, it's Episode IV but actually good, with a much better cast and epic visual effects |
| 22:40.27 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae stated an opinion |
| 22:40.40 | The_Randomness | *gasp* |
| 22:40.45 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Exactly, reusing a 40 year old plot |
| 22:40.54 | FN2187ius | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgSylgBFi-I |
| 22:40.55 | Technobliterator | Episode IV sucked, Episode VII does not |
| 22:40.56 | FN2187ius | HAHAHHA |
| 22:41.01 | ImpyDroid | What next, will he not put stops in his sentrnces |
| 22:41.06 | Technobliterator | Episode VII makes the story actually interesting |
| 22:41.07 | Monet | Impydroid: I did suspect the moment he took his helmet off he'd suffer from no-longer-bothers-with-the-helmet-itis |
| 22:41.16 | Ghelae | I don't do opinions |
| 22:41.20 | Technobliterator | Episode IV is the most dated film |
| 22:41.21 | Ghelae | therefore what I stated was a fact |
| 22:41.22 | ImpyDroid | NOOOOOO |
| 22:41.25 | Hachiman | I think you will find that the Star Wars plot is older than Star Wars IV |
| 22:41.32 | Technobliterator | also, I agree with Ghel on this one |
| 22:41.32 | Hachiman | The Monomyth and all that |
| 22:41.45 | Technobliterator | that the Skywalkers are very whiny |
| 22:41.46 | NappingPanda | Ghelae, who authorised turning on your snark subroutines? |
| 22:41.51 | Monet | Hachiman: Or more directly, Flash Gordon. |
| 22:42.03 | Monet | Or Buck Rogers |
| 22:42.21 | ImpyDroid | As for the special effects thing is they are not innovative |
| 22:42.36 | ImpyDroid | Like they were in Episode IV |
| 22:42.41 | Technobliterator | but they're goodt |
| 22:42.46 | ImpyDroid | Every movie has good CGI these days |
| 22:42.54 | Hachiman | Erm |
| 22:43.00 | ImpyDroid | Just look at the Marvel movies |
| 22:43.00 | Hachiman | VII had practical effects as well |
| 22:43.01 | NappingPanda | anyway, my opinion of 7 is that it's basically the quintessential Star Wars flick |
| 22:43.14 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: True |
| 22:43.19 | Monet | Its pushing the CGI's capabilities that is important. |
| 22:43.34 | ImpyDroid | But either way today Force Awakens effects are nothing special |
| 22:43.45 | Technobliterator | I think the internet needs to get over their nostalgia and accept that Episode IV is a dated and honestly bad film filled to the brim with plot holes and cliches |
| 22:43.48 | ImpyDroid | Look at Guardians of the Galaxy or the new Star Trek |
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| 22:43.58 | Technobliterator | and it's really no wonder that Alec Guiness hated it |
| 22:43.59 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 22:44.24 | NappingPanda | dated yes, bad no, and it does have a lot of cliches because it uses those cliches to inform the audience |
| 22:44.27 | ImpyDroid | Perhaps not as good as the effects of Force Awakens, but comparable |
| 22:44.28 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: muh nostalgia |
| 22:44.35 | Monet | Technobliterator: Everyone in the cast hated it. |
| 22:45.05 | ImpyDroid | Episode IV was unmatched in terms of special effects at its time |
| 22:45.18 | Technobliterator | Han Solo is really the only interesting cast member, and other than maybe Leia's "someone needs to save our skins", and the droids doing anything, none of the main characters did a single thing interesting |
| 22:45.23 | Monet | Also let's not forget that cliches don't aways start off as cliches. |
| 22:46.01 | NappingPanda | well a cliche can't technically start as cliche, has to be used a lot first |
| 22:46.03 | Technobliterator | and really, none of the cast were interesting until the later two films |
| 22:46.28 | Technobliterator | except Han Solo because Harrison Ford is a legend |
| 22:46.37 | The_Randomness | Agreed |
| 22:46.45 | NappingPanda | personally I found Luke and Ben fairly interesting |
| 22:46.48 | ImpyDroid | Well yeah plot-wise Star Wars were terrible |
| 22:46.55 | Technobliterator | oh, Obi-Wan |
| 22:46.59 | Technobliterator | alright, I'll concede there |
| 22:47.08 | Technobliterator | he had some wishy-washy dialog, but he was pretty decent |
| 22:47.12 | ImpyDroid | Maybe not terrible but nothing extraordinary |
| 22:47.20 | Hachiman | Obi-Wan was a liar hur |
| 22:47.22 | Monet | Aleg Guiness - also a legend. |
| 22:47.30 | Monet | Alec* |
| 22:47.33 | Technobliterator | both Obi-Wan actors were excellent |
| 22:47.41 | Wormy_ | Alac hated Star Wars |
| 22:47.43 | Hachiman | I personally prefer Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan |
| 22:47.48 | NappingPanda | ^ |
| 22:47.57 | Technobliterator | I do as well |
| 22:48.05 | Technobliterator | but Alec still did a great job |
| 22:48.14 | Monet | Wormy_: Hated star was but had been i nthe movies long enough to know it would still have been profitable. |
| 22:48.25 | Technobliterator | also, Yoda is a much cooler Jedi than Obi-Wan |
| 22:48.40 | Technobliterator | and Obi-Wan sacrifices himself for literally no reason |
| 22:48.42 | NappingPanda | Ewan, Grievous and the clones were basically the prequals for me |
| 22:48.42 | Hachiman | Yoda is a manipulative little gimmick prick |
| 22:48.49 | Wormy_ | I blame Yoda for the ruining of the Jedi order |
| 22:48.58 | Wormy_ | oh wait that's not canon |
| 22:49.02 | Technobliterator | like, Lucas was too lazy to even write in a good reason for the Obi-Wan sacrifice |
| 22:49.09 | Monet | I'll admit one of my favourite scenes of Episode V is Yoda burrowing his way through Luke's stuff. |
| 22:49.13 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Blame Yoda anyway. It needs to be somebody's fault. |
| 22:49.30 | Monet | Technobliterator: I think the sacrifice was Guiness' idea. |
| 22:49.36 | Technobliterator | I doubt it |
| 22:49.40 | Hachiman | To be fair, I do not think Obi-Wan actually committed a sacrifice when fighting Vader |
| 22:49.45 | Technobliterator | I think it was Lucas' idea of cheap storytelling |
| 22:49.46 | Hachiman | I think it was a fight for closure or something |
| 22:50.05 | Technobliterator | he needed to have the mentor die, because that's what always happens, and needed a gasp from the audience |
| 22:50.18 | Technobliterator | so he just had Obi-Wan sacrifice for what was literally no reason |
| 22:50.28 | Technobliterator | he just puts up his lightsaber and shuts his eyes |
| 22:50.28 | Monet | Again, somethign Guinnes probably understood as a veteren actor. |
| 22:50.43 | Technobliterator | he doesn't even stall or buy time for them |
| 22:50.48 | Technobliterator | he has no reason to do it |
| 22:51.10 | Hachiman | If he had not died, he could not have told Luke to use the Force |
| 22:51.15 | Monet | Guiness wanted nothing to do with Star Wars after his bit was done, so it makes sense he'd agree to having his own character killed off. |
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| 22:51.54 | Wormy_ | I concur with Hachi and Monet's in and out-of-universe reasons. |
| 22:52.19 | Wormy_ | Obi Wan even said to Vader he would become one with the Force is Vader strikes him down |
| 22:52.27 | Technobliterator | there's really no defending it |
| 22:52.30 | Technobliterator | it's just sloppy writing |
| 22:52.37 | Technobliterator | and only goes to show that Lucas is a bad filmmaker |
| 22:52.37 | Wormy_ | a clever little hint Vader is too stupid to comprehend |
| 22:52.40 | ImpyDroid | Lucas can't write |
| 22:52.56 | Technobliterator | it doesn't matter how good he is at creating a fictional setting, he's horrible at creating a film |
| 22:53.03 | NappingPanda | No, Tech, there's no defending it against YOU because you refuse to look from any viewpoint other than your own, and if you do you disguise it quite aptly behind your rather aggresive choice of words |
| 22:53.05 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Correction, Lucas is a good director and producer but a horrible writer |
| 22:53.14 | Monet | Bad filmmaker but surely an acter like GUinness would have protested the sloppiness if he cared about the role, right? |
| 22:53.15 | Technobliterator | no, he's a terrible director |
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| 22:53.32 | The_Randomness | gets some popcorn |
| 22:53.41 | ImpyDroid | But he was innovative at his time |
| 22:53.43 | Wormy_ | I think you are being a bit hard on Lucas, THX138 was a masterpiece |
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| 22:54.19 | Technobliterator | C-3PO's actor put it best |
| 22:54.27 | Technobliterator | that he would always do it his way even if his way wasn't the right way |
| 22:54.46 | Wormy_ | And I agree with Lucas's criticism of TFA actually. It did not feature enough unique places, tech, things, creatures and so on |
| 22:55.00 | Hachiman | I will not deny that Lucas is an immensely flawed director and writer, but I will say that even with the Prequel Trilogy he did a couple of good things |
| 22:55.05 | Monet | We're not disagreeing that Lucas is shit at writing. |
| 22:55.34 | Technobliterator | The prequel trilogy had great moments, but so did many bad films |
| 22:55.53 | Technobliterator | if the prequel trilogy didn't have Star Wars in the title and didn't take place in the setting, no one would talk about them to this day |
| 22:56.04 | Technobliterator | they'd just be written off as bad science fiction films and forgotten about forever |
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| 22:57.15 | Monet | ALso looking at the credits - George was only writer and director for Episode IV, V he was absent and VI he only wrote the screenplay. |
| 22:57.28 | Monet | And for VI the screenplay wasn't his own work |
| 22:57.32 | Technobliterator | yes, and notice that V is the best film by miles |
| 22:57.59 | Monet | He screenwrote alongside Lawrence Kasdan - the screenwriter for EPisode V |
| 22:58.09 | Technobliterator | and VI is a decent film that's probably still better than IV but it doesn't get as many points as IV because it doesn't come with the nostalgia factor that IV does |
| 22:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | I think IV and V are my favourites, if anybody cares :p |
| 22:58.37 | Technobliterator | V > VII > VI > III >>>>>>>>> all |
| 22:58.39 | Technobliterator | imo |
| 22:59.04 | ImpyDroid | Put VII lower and yeah |
| 22:59.10 | DrodoEmpire | IV is just a classic, V told a pretty good story. VI was alright, III was okay |
| 22:59.22 | The_Randomness | I haven't seen the Star Wars movies before VII for quite a long time, so I can't say much. |
| 22:59.36 | Monet | IV classifies as cult perhaps, amybe "so bad its good" |
| 22:59.40 | Technobliterator | I'll concede that IV is a classic, I won't consider it a film that holds up well :P |
| 23:00.29 | Monet | The issue with saying that IV is a shit film is making you a target for the number of peope lwh othought it was okay or even good. |
| 23:00.48 | DrodoEmpire | IV has a *really* simple plot that could've been told better, but I mean still |
| 23:00.53 | The_Randomness | Since I'm a fkn casul, I don't value the Star Wars movies for much more beyond how much they entertained me. |
| 23:01.11 | Technobliterator | Random takes a good position here |
| 23:01.15 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:01.16 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: So did Alien |
| 23:01.30 | Hachiman | >implying Alien was shit |
| 23:01.31 | DrodoEmpire | SW in general is greatly overrated but I like it because I liked it since I was a kid. :p |
| 23:01.38 | Technobliterator | Yep |
| 23:01.42 | DrodoEmpire | No real logic behind it, just do |
| 23:01.54 | Monet | Were ALian not set on a spaceship and have HR Giger as design director, it probably would have been a cult film or a flop. |
| 23:02.07 | DrodoEmpire | Lasers and shit, really enjoy the art direction |
| 23:02.13 | Technobliterator | Star Wars is popular because of its setting, which is great. The films aren't spectacular, but the special effects and the few awesome moments are good enough to fool you into thinking they are. |
| 23:02.15 | ImpyDroid | Alien had an idea |
| 23:02.20 | ImpyDroid | A deeper meaning |
| 23:02.26 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Pretty much |
| 23:02.29 | Technobliterator | then you have games like KOTOR |
| 23:02.38 | Technobliterator | which have much better writing than many of the actual films |
| 23:02.40 | Monet | Alien was, i nits essence, a haunted house film in space. |
| 23:02.41 | ImpyDroid | HAIL REVAN |
| 23:02.48 | ImpyDroid | HAIL REVAN |
| 23:03.05 | DrodoEmpire | And the Expanded Universe I think picks up some of the slack from the movies in terms of storytelling |
| 23:03.13 | DrodoEmpire | Or, it used to |
| 23:03.15 | Technobliterator | the Expanded Universe mostly sucks |
| 23:03.19 | DrodoEmpire | Depends on if you considered it canon |
| 23:03.20 | Technobliterator | but it has some good moments |
| 23:03.27 | Monet | I mean...the Alien was quite literally a manifestation of -rape-. Basing monsters on a concept to be feared is...pretty comon. |
| 23:03.31 | DrodoEmpire | I just liked how big it really was |
| 23:03.34 | Hachiman | Alien is essentially Jaws in space more like |
| 23:03.37 | Technobliterator | well, it's not canon, so you can' treally "consider" it canon :P |
| 23:04.00 | Monet | Hachiman: Haunted house movie so yeah. I get you on that one. |
| 23:04.16 | Monet | Including horro cliches like "the first person we see dies" |
| 23:04.19 | DrodoEmpire | I only really consider "canon" relevant in sci-fi debates and marketing. Anywhere else it doesn't really matter to me |
| 23:04.25 | DrodoEmpire | Because, really now. |
| 23:04.29 | DrodoEmpire | That's all it matters in |
| 23:04.52 | Monet | Granted I don't think anyone who watched Alien back in 1979 was expectin gJohn Hurt to get killed off so soon. |
| 23:04.54 | DrodoEmpire | I don't stop liking something because somebody tells me it isn't official anymore |
| 23:05.27 | Technobliterator | I don't see that as a reason to stop liking anything |
| 23:05.32 | Hachiman | I wish there were more films like The Thing and Alien nowadays |
| 23:05.59 | Hachiman | The Thing is an underrated masterpiece |
| 23:06.05 | Technobliterator | ah, of course |
| 23:06.15 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: I might be exaggerating then. I just find that taking canon too seriously is silly |
| 23:06.28 | Technobliterator | Disney is now going to milk Star Wars dry with more films than the Marvel Cinematic Universe |
| 23:06.29 | DrodoEmpire | Arguing over it even more so |
| 23:06.45 | Monet | Hachiman: Well some good news (maybe) is Niel Blonkamp has been billed ot direct a sequel to Aliens. |
| 23:07.03 | Technobliterator | I hate Disney |
| 23:07.05 | Hachiman | Note that Blomkamp has not made a good film since District 9 |
| 23:07.18 | Monet | Preaching to the choir Techno. |
| 23:08.04 | Technobliterator | the MCU is decent, but also pretty hit and miss |
| 23:08.08 | Monet | Hachiman: To be fair the only things he's done since District 9 are Elysium and Chappie. |
| 23:08.19 | Technobliterator | and you can just tell that another few films and they'll milk it dry and it'll get really old |
| 23:09.00 | Monet | I think the MCU has a stopping point. |
| 23:09.24 | ImpyDroid | The MCU is not art |
| 23:09.25 | Monet | They've planned for a set sequence, ending with a fight against Thanos. |
| 23:09.57 | ImpyDroid | But they have Inhumans planned after that |
| 23:10.06 | ImpyDroid | Maybe they will reboot the story after that |
| 23:10.07 | Technobliterator | this should be good |
| 23:10.17 | Monet | It's the DCCU I'm worried about (or would be if i paid much attention to DC). |
| 23:10.17 | Technobliterator | I hope they do reboot the story |
| 23:10.26 | Technobliterator | or rather |
| 23:10.32 | Technobliterator | I hope they leave it for a good long while |
| 23:10.35 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Hm? |
| 23:10.37 | Technobliterator | but they're Disney, so they won't |
| 23:10.48 | ImpyDroid | They rebooted Star Wars |
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| 23:11.10 | Monet | Well the thing is Marvel is different. |
| 23:11.26 | Monet | It's part of Disney's profile sure, but Marvel can still do their own thing. |
| 23:11.26 | Technobliterator | they didn't reboot Star Wars |
| 23:11.53 | ImpyDroid | They purged the EU though |
| 23:11.56 | drom | Wormy_: Thanks for the recape. |
| 23:12.01 | Technobliterator | that's not a reboot |
| 23:12.02 | ImpyDroid | I mean the DCU |
| 23:12.27 | ImpyDroid | They have a lot of potential and I am interested in what they are going to do |
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| 23:12.47 | Monet | My main worry is it looks like their movie list is an attempt to copy mavel's success. |
| 23:13.01 | Technobliterator | I'm not, Man of Steel sucked, Suicide Squad looks honestly really bad with that awful Joker, and Batman vs Superman doesn't look interesting at all |
| 23:13.06 | ImpyDroid | They are trying a distinct style |
| 23:13.10 | Wormy_ | no problem |
| 23:13.19 | Monet | Sure Suicide Squad might be interesting. But its the motives. |
| 23:13.24 | ImpyDroid | More gritty and stylised |
| 23:13.38 | drom | Wormy_: I wonder how I can I fill this with greebles http://i.imgur.com/sIJCr71.png Suggestions are welcome |
| 23:13.38 | Monet | the MCU is groundbreaking - no one had tried to string so many movies together, not this cohesively. |
| 23:13.40 | ImpyDroid | I am interested in what they will try to do |
| 23:13.50 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Nah Leto is good |
| 23:13.58 | Technobliterator | the new Joker? |
| 23:14.00 | ImpyDroid | They need not copy Ledger |
| 23:14.09 | ImpyDroid | Or Nickolson |
| 23:14.11 | ImpyDroid | Nicolaon |
| 23:14.15 | ImpyDroid | Nicholson |
| 23:14.16 | Technobliterator | That's the thing |
| 23:14.26 | Hachiman | Monet: Quentin Tarantino says hello |
| 23:14.32 | Technobliterator | They are copying Ledger's voice except they gvie him awful dialog |
| 23:14.35 | ImpyDroid | Leto is NOT Ledger |
| 23:14.45 | Technobliterator | and a completely new appearance |
| 23:14.47 | ImpyDroid | We only heard one line |
| 23:14.49 | Technobliterator | why not just give him a clowny voice? |
| 23:15.01 | ImpyDroid | You mean Hamill-style |
| 23:15.01 | Technobliterator | yeah, and it was the worst line I've ever heard in a trailer for any move, ever |
| 23:15.13 | Monet | Hachiman: Tatantino inserts references, not entire characters or backstories form other films he's made. |
| 23:15.28 | Hachiman | But his films are all connected nonetheless |
| 23:15.53 | Monet | Yes but still not quite in the way Marvel has managed. |
| 23:15.55 | Technobliterator | The MCU was an attempt to basically create a comic book continuity but in film. It did stupidly well, and will continue to, but it's doomed to fail soon. |
| 23:17.05 | Monet | The MCU is a balancing act really. They could have gotten characterisation between movies all wrong. Could have missed glaring plot points from other films. |
| 23:17.15 | ImpyDroid | It won't, the power of fan boys is incredible |
| 23:17.20 | Monet | Hell they're ending each film with a trailer of what's ocming next. |
| 23:17.43 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: One single line is not enough to judge a character |
| 23:17.46 | Hachiman | This is why Tarantino is smart and makes his films have separate stories from one another that do not really impact one another in such a significant way yet they are still all connected |
| 23:17.48 | Technobliterator | If they do it right, the MCU could be remembered as an epic breakthrough in filmmaking history, but if they do it wrong - which they will because they're Disney and love money - it'll be remembered as a colossal failure |
| 23:17.52 | ImpyDroid | The only bad thing is the lack of the smile |
| 23:18.17 | Technobliterator | ImpyDroid, if the appearance of a character and a single line is what you're going to show us in the trailer, that's all I have to judge the character |
| 23:18.19 | Monet | Technobliterator: I thought it already was. It made superhero films cool again. |
| 23:18.25 | ImpyDroid | Why would it fail though? People do not wait much from it |
| 23:18.47 | Technobliterator | and if your trailer doesn't make me interested in your film, it's a bad trailer |
| 23:19.00 | ImpyDroid | I dunno Harley was cool |
| 23:19.01 | Technobliterator | Monet, pretty sure The Dark Knight trilogy did that first :o |
| 23:19.04 | ImpyDroid | I liked the trailer |
| 23:19.13 | ImpyDroid | I AM BATMAN |
| 23:19.23 | Technobliterator | Harley was, but the Joker did just such a poor performance, it completely put me off |
| 23:19.24 | Monet | No one before had tried what was achieved with Avengers Assemble. |
| 23:20.01 | Monet | Batman Begins still gave us edgy threat-cancer Batman. |
| 23:20.05 | Monet | throat* |
| 23:20.07 | Xho | I think Jared Leto will do well |
| 23:20.13 | Xho | He is a very good actor by all accounts |
| 23:20.44 | Technobliterator | Monet, but it also sold stupidly well and made superhero films cool, did it not? |
| 23:21.39 | Monet | I think maybe when Iron Man came along people started agreeing "yep, superhero filsm are getting good now" |
| 23:21.55 | Technobliterator | I thought that was The Dark Knight, personally |
| 23:21.58 | Monet | Before that Batman Begins was almost an isolated incident. |
| 23:22.02 | Technobliterator | also |
| 23:22.07 | Monet | Iron Man came put in 2008 |
| 23:22.08 | Technobliterator | Spiderman was pretty successful |
| 23:22.36 | Xho | >spiderman |
| 23:22.38 | Monet | For me either Batman Begins or Iron Man was the start of the new age of superhro films |
| 23:22.41 | Xho | STOP IT'S ALREADY DEAD |
| 23:23.19 | Monet | Also Tony Stark wasn't weighted down with several metric tons of angst. That was another big problem with the previous superhero films |
| 23:23.57 | Tek0516 | Probably the combination of both successful films proving it works |
| 23:24.11 | Monet | There may have been a little shortly after he came back fro mAfghanistan but he did eventually go back ot partying and drinking. |
| 23:24.43 | ImpyDroid | spodor mon |
| 23:25.11 | Monet | ALso let's not forget Toby McGuire's performance made Peter Parker a whiny crybaby. |
| 23:26.14 | Monet | The Spider Man 2 game even lampshaded Toby Mcgure's mild-mannered hero routine. |
| 23:26.25 | Xho | I thought Peter Parker was a whiny crybaby |
| 23:26.40 | Xho | emphasis on was of course |
| 23:27.43 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ifhg3d22As Santorakh |
| 23:27.57 | Xho | Or Order of the Black Sun in a nutshell |
| 23:27.58 | Monet | Well he's not as confident as he is when he's Spider-Man, but Parker's mannerisms carried over into SPider-Man. |
| 23:28.49 | Monet | And Spider-Man is this wise-cracking, street-smart vigilante with a sense of humour so bad he's hilarious. |
| 23:28.55 | Hachiman | THERE'S A HAT IN MY HOME MADE OF WATERMELOOOON |
| 23:30.12 | Monet | Two that I can recall are classic lines: Fishbowl jokes at Mysterio and "Is that a hron on your head or are you just happy to see me?" to Rhino. |
| 23:30.51 | Monet | ...although in hindsight, you probably have ot be cocky to begin with to mock an 8ft tall walking tank. |
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| 23:31.10 | Monet | To his face |
| 23:33.56 | Monet | There's also a great (but admittedly moronic for Peter) moment in Civil War |
| 23:34.00 | Wormy_ | Time to visit the Wastes |
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| 23:39.11 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Bishie Spiderman |
| 23:39.35 | Monet | Well... |
| 23:39.41 | Monet | He is usually in his early 20s at least. |
| 23:39.57 | Monet | Or an outright teenager. |
| 23:41.23 | Monet | And he's an acrobat. SO yeah I don't mind if Petey looks a little effemenate. |
| 23:41.53 | Monet | Now ic Cappy was a pretty-boy, then I'd be concerned. |
| 23:46.58 | ImpyDroid | Cap sort of is |
| 23:47.54 | ImpyDroid | Also Cap x Bucky does not really make him more masculine |
| 23:48.31 | Monet | Sort of? |
| 23:48.39 | Monet | With his chin? |
| 23:49.19 | ImpyDroid | But the rest of his face |
| 23:49.21 | Monet | I'd say that's more due to Chris Evans playing him. |
| 23:50.18 | Monet | http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/80/537ba5b368b7d.jpg what about this one? |
| 23:51.11 | ImpyDroid | Well yeah the comic Cap is more manly-looking |
| 23:53.26 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of which I wonder if Cap could die in the next movie |
| 23:53.50 | ImpyDroid | The black winged guy replaces him in the comics after all, doesn't he? |
| 23:54.21 | Monet | Falcon? Either him or Punisher, can't remember |
| 23:54.40 | Monet | Maybe Falcon because Punisher as Captain America seems wrong. |
| 23:54.42 | ImpyDroid | Falcon yeah |
| 23:54.50 | ImpyDroid | Wait since when is Punisher black |
| 23:55.12 | ImpyDroid | Falcon replacing Cap could be interesting |
| 23:55.13 | Monet | Punisher isn't, but I think he has wished to be Cap. |
| 23:55.53 | ImpyDroid | But then again the fan boys would complain and scream "fucking PC" |
| 23:55.59 | Monet | Well in the comics, like in the films Falcon and Cap are close friends. |
| 23:57.14 | Monet | Only the anti-SJWs |
| 23:57.33 | Monet | Experts of the comic would know that Cap and Falcon go hand in hand. |
| 23:57.51 | Monet | Though then again I think Carol Danvers might have hada brief role as Captain America. |
| 23:58.02 | Monet | Now she's Thor. |
| 23:58.10 | ImpyDroid | Female Thor is weird |
| 23:58.21 | ImpyDroid | I'd like to see female Cap though |
| 23:58.39 | ImpyDroid | was there a lady Cap? |
