| 00:00.15 | Wormydroid | Happy New Year from UK |
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| 00:05.55 | drom_ | Wormydroid: A skycraper was lit afire in Dubai |
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| 00:10.16 | drom_ | Wormydroid: A skycraper was lit afire in Dubai |
| 00:10.31 | Wormydroid | On purpose? |
| 00:10.41 | drom_ | I don't know |
| 00:11.13 | Wormydroid | I saw on the news but didnt bother clicking |
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| 00:16.29 | Wormydroid_ | I See UFoS |
| 00:16.46 | Wormydroid_ | Oh wait, they are Chinese Lanterns |
| 00:19.16 | AdmiralPanda | trust worm |
| 00:19.23 | AdmiralPanda | to immediately jump to UFO |
| 00:19.45 | Cyrannian|Away | Happy new year everyone! ð½ |
| 00:19.56 | AdmiralPanda | hai u crazy waptor bastard |
| 00:20.51 | Cyrannian|Away | haithar |
| 00:20.57 | Wormydroid_ | Hey when aliens beam messages into your head on a daily basis you sort of expect them to be UFO's |
| 00:21.53 | AdmiralPanda | and I'm going to leave this conversation |
| 00:22.30 | Newyearios | Happy New Year |
| 00:22.46 | Newyearios | Got my presents |
| 00:23.02 | Newyearios | Love my new scarf, I look like the Doctor in it ^^ |
| 00:23.09 | *** topic/#sporewiki by OluapPlayer -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Happy New Year! |
| 00:23.13 | Wormydroid_ | Happy new Year to you aswell, hope you are having fun |
| 00:23.23 | Newyearios | Yes |
| 00:23.25 | Newyearios | Now is the time |
| 00:23.27 | Newyearios | KYLO REN IS HAN'S SON |
| 00:23.29 | Newyearios | HAN DIES |
| 00:23.34 | Newyearios | BEN SOLO IS KYLO'S REAL NAME |
| 00:23.37 | Newyearios | THE GIRL IS THE REAL PROTAGONIST |
| 00:23.41 | Newyearios | THE BLACK GUY NEARLY DIES AT THE END |
| 00:23.42 | OluapPlayer | Quit it |
| 00:23.46 | Newyearios | Sorry |
| 00:24.04 | Newyearios | I've been waiting for two weeks to say this |
| 00:24.51 | Cyrannian|Away | Snape kills Dumbledore! |
| 00:24.52 | OluapPlayer | Hope that I've forgotten this by the time I watch the movie myself, or I'll be slightly peeved |
| 00:25.11 | AdmiralPanda | And you're incredibly lucky I saw the movie yesterday |
| 00:25.11 | Wormydroid_ | Jar Jar was in it! |
| 00:25.29 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: unforgivabul |
| 00:25.38 | Newyearios | OluapPlayer: Aw sorry |
| 00:25.59 | Newyearios | Didn't know you haven't watched the movie yet |
| 00:26.07 | AdmiralPanda | it's also worth bearing out that just because the "no spoilers" has been removed from the topic bar in favour of a seasonal greeting, doesn't automatically make it ok to post spoilers |
| 00:26.24 | Wormydroid_ | To everybody else. Spoilers above |
| 00:26.28 | Newyearios | Alright guys I apologise |
| 00:26.34 | Newyearios | Like seriously |
| 00:26.34 | OluapPlayer | I didn't. Like I said earlier, I only just watched A New Hope today for the first time |
| 00:26.36 | Wormydroid_ | Imperios went full Spoiler Jihad |
| 00:26.37 | Newyearios | That's a big offense |
| 00:26.41 | Newyearios | A BIG one |
| 00:26.53 | Newyearios | I am actually going to find a way to repay this to you somehow |
| 00:26.55 | Newyearios | Like seriously |
| 00:26.57 | Newyearios | It's a big offense |
| 00:27.02 | Newyearios | Any ideas? |
| 00:27.12 | OluapPlayer | Repay by finishing the Klaxxa page hur |
| 00:27.18 | Newyearios | No I mean seriously |
| 00:27.20 | Newyearios | That is big |
| 00:27.31 | OluapPlayer | I'm not mad or anything. Too bored to be mad |
| 00:27.38 | OluapPlayer | New Year's a boring day for me |
| 00:28.07 | OluapPlayer | It's a normal day except I'm conscious over how alone I am |
| 00:28.09 | Newyearios | I mean the fact that I was spoiled is essentially the reason I did not like the movie |
| 00:28.16 | Newyearios | I'll find a way |
| 00:28.28 | Cyrannian | Well yeah, after the whole new year thing is out of the way the rest of the day is boring |
| 00:28.32 | OluapPlayer | Hasn't stopped me before, you probably had bette reasons |
| 00:29.06 | OluapPlayer | Plus we all know the part of the movie that truly matters |
| 00:29.13 | OluapPlayer | and that is the badass tonfa stormtrooper |
| 00:29.29 | MonetAway | OluapPlayer: What about watching fireworks on TV? |
| 00:29.50 | Newyearios | What about SETTING fireworks at that matter |
| 00:29.55 | OluapPlayer | I don't find fireworks particularly entertaining |
| 00:30.04 | MonetAway | U boring |
| 00:30.17 | OluapPlayer | An uncle of mine once suffered severe burns on his torso because of fireworks |
| 00:30.21 | Newyearios | You are not interested by explosions |
| 00:30.24 | Monet | Oh... |
| 00:30.25 | Newyearios | What kind of sick person are youi |
| 00:30.33 | Wormydroid_ | I like setting off poppers |
| 00:30.40 | Newyearios | Alright maybe spending a generation in an Islamic region affected me genetically |
| 00:30.58 | OluapPlayer | Absolutely halal |
| 00:31.04 | Monet | So fireworks aren't entertaining because of a Firework-related family injury? |
| 00:31.17 | Monet | I can understand that. |
| 00:31.18 | OluapPlayer | No, I just don't find them entertaining |
| 00:31.28 | OluapPlayer | My uncle injury was just something I felt like sharing |
| 00:31.36 | Monet | But... |
| 00:31.40 | Monet | Explosions. |
| 00:31.43 | Monet | Colour |
| 00:31.49 | OluapPlayer | Fireworks are only good when they're the shiny multicoloured ones, which don't happen until 00:00 am |
| 00:31.56 | Wormydroid_ | Sparklee |
| 00:31.56 | OluapPlayer | I'm still an hour and half away from that |
| 00:32.00 | Technobliterator | I haven't been on this chat in a year |
| 00:32.00 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 00:32.18 | Wormydroid_ | Corny |
| 00:32.21 | OluapPlayer | A message from the past, you're gonna grow up to be a LOSA |
| 00:32.34 | Technobliterator | ya mom |
| 00:32.34 | Newyearios | Wait |
| 00:32.36 | Cyrannian | *since last year hur |
| 00:32.42 | OluapPlayer | All in all, chatting in the IRC is more entertaining to me than watching fireworks |
| 00:32.44 | Newyearios | Is there anyone else I spoiled today? |
| 00:32.49 | Newyearios | Outside Panda |
| 00:33.04 | Monet | I saw the film a couple of days ago. |
| 00:33.18 | Wormydroid_ | Luckily I saw it |
| 00:33.26 | Wormydroid_ | For you |
| 00:33.26 | OluapPlayer | I'm pretty sure everyone who cares about Star Wars in here has seen it already |
| 00:33.58 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, what did you think of A New Hope? |
| 00:34.03 | OluapPlayer | Was good |
| 00:34.17 | OluapPlayer | I didn't expect them to destroy the Death Star right off the bat like that |
| 00:34.38 | Monet | This is why I am so critical of Death Stars |
| 00:34.40 | Wormydroid_ | Just like Sporewiki boss fights |
| 00:34.53 | Monet | They're giant targets. |
| 00:34.54 | OluapPlayer | It's funny because it's true |
| 00:35.02 | Newyearios | OluapPlayer: Do not try finding good story in Star Wars |
| 00:35.08 | Technobliterator | yeah, at the time, blatant plot devices like that were fine |
| 00:35.19 | OluapPlayer | I'm not complaining about the story. It's more like |
| 00:35.20 | Technobliterator | Nowadays, it'd come off as cheap writing |
| 00:35.23 | OluapPlayer | It's a trilogy |
| 00:35.25 | Newyearios | All seven had corny plots hur |
| 00:35.29 | OluapPlayer | I thought it was gonna last longer than the first movie |
| 00:35.37 | Newyearios | They're going to rebuild it repeatedly |
| 00:35.54 | OluapPlayer | "IT'S GONNA WORK THIS TIME I SWEAR" |
| 00:36.09 | Technobliterator | Yeah, despite what he'll tell you, George Lucas didn't plan it to be a trilogy |
| 00:36.13 | Monet | One day the Sith will learn: All Death Stars do is draw out the Rebels. |
| 00:36.26 | Newyearios | Monet: Come to think about, the Sith rarely think rationally |
| 00:36.34 | Wormydroid_ | Stop hurting my Warsie feelings with your nostalgia critic esque burning |
| 00:36.36 | OluapPlayer | Also I was a little amused by Darth Vader's tiny-ass fighter |
| 00:36.43 | OluapPlayer | It was like, half the size of his soldiers's |
| 00:37.00 | Technobliterator | mhm |
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| 00:37.09 | Monet | Well I dunno if it was tinier |
| 00:37.10 | Newyearios | Wormydroid_: BURN WARSIE BURN |
| 00:37.14 | Monet | It just had smaller wings |
| 00:37.25 | Wormydroid_ | Hi |
| 00:37.39 | Monet | The X1 had a lot more stuff behind the cockpit. |
| 00:37.41 | Wormydroid_ | Stahp quit it |
| 00:37.47 | OluapPlayer | It'd be funny if he wasn't legit killing people at the time |
| 00:38.10 | Cyrannian | That was shady |
| 00:38.21 | Monet | Those TIEs are an exellent example of how the empire just does nto give a shit about its soldiers. |
| 00:38.25 | OluapPlayer | It was an international spy |
| 00:38.36 | Wormydroid_ | I hope he didn't rhink I was telling him to quit |
| 00:38.58 | Cyrannian | hides Wormy under some tin foil |
| 00:38.59 | OluapPlayer | Only if he didn't know how to read |
| 00:39.16 | Monet | TIEs have no hyperdrive, no shields, no life support, no missiles and use tiny ion engines to fly. |
| 00:39.21 | Wormydroid_ | eats it painfully |
| 00:39.57 | Monet | My brother and I used to call them flying pankakes. |
| 00:41.12 | Technobliterator | Episode V is the best Star Wars btw |
| 00:41.16 | Newyearios | ^ |
| 00:41.17 | Technobliterator | so you'll hopefully enjoy it |
| 00:41.19 | Cyrannian | Indeed |
| 00:41.22 | Newyearios | Because Lucas did not write it |
| 00:41.30 | Newyearios | 5 and 3 are generally considered the best |
| 00:41.38 | Wormydroid_ | Why does nobody like RoTJ? |
| 00:41.44 | Newyearios | Four letters |
| 00:41.45 | Newyearios | E |
| 00:41.47 | Newyearios | W |
| 00:41.48 | Newyearios | O |
| 00:41.48 | Newyearios | K |
| 00:42.04 | Monet | RotJ was dumb in many places. |
| 00:42.06 | Wormydroid_ | They are only in the last bit |
| 00:42.15 | Cyrannian | nub nub |
| 00:42.57 | OluapPlayer | Could be worse |
| 00:42.59 | OluapPlayer | Could be more Jar Jar |
| 00:43.04 | Monet | Boba Fett's hilarious 'death', Luke walking practically blissfullly into a trap, Cheiwe doing Tarzan and the Empire's finest getting their butts handed to them by teddy-bears. |
| 00:43.27 | Newyearios | Admittedly this is kind of plausible |
| 00:43.30 | Technobliterator | Monet, George Lucas said he would've made Boba Fett's death more exciting if he'd known Boba Fett would be such a popular character |
| 00:43.37 | Newyearios | Look at RL native resistance |
| 00:43.41 | OluapPlayer | Also the Stormtroopers deserve all the bad reputation they had before the TRAITOR guy showed up |
| 00:43.50 | Newyearios | TONFA |
| 00:43.50 | Technobliterator | the Ewoks winning isn't that absurd |
| 00:43.51 | OluapPlayer | Fuckers wouldn't be able to hit the side of a building |
| 00:43.52 | Newyearios | SPIN |
| 00:43.59 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 00:44.05 | Technobliterator | the Stormtroopers were terrible aims |
| 00:44.09 | Technobliterator | for trained clone soldiers |
| 00:44.14 | Monet | I think one of the odd things about Ewoks is alongside that you have the Emperor *electrocuting Luke to an inch of his life* |
| 00:44.22 | Technobliterator | these are old films |
| 00:44.32 | Newyearios | AdmiralPanda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACuzzd_BZzk |
| 00:44.38 | Newyearios | Speaking of TONFA |
| 00:44.40 | Cyrannian | They weren't clones by episode 4 doe |
| 00:44.43 | OluapPlayer | Being old doesn't excuse the Empire from having terrible soldiers hur |
| 00:44.54 | Monet | You have a juxtaposition of cute teddied braining plastic soldiers and a guy suffering the worst pain imanginable. |
| 00:45.14 | Newyearios | Cyrannian: That's actually weird |
| 00:45.21 | Newyearios | Was it addressed in the movies? |
| 00:45.50 | Newyearios | When I was younger I thought they were clones and this solved some of the moral dilemmas in the movie for me |
| 00:46.13 | Monet | I think the original trilogy period had them as normal soldiers or something. |
| 00:46.16 | Newyearios | There's a difference between killing people that were likely drafted against their will and artificial creatures made solely for combat |
| 00:46.39 | Cyrannian | In that the stormtroopers are all different heights, I suppose so. Also, accelerated growth is mentioned in AotC |
| 00:46.40 | Monet | Its only when Episode II came out the whole 'cloned soldiers' thing was made canon. |
| 00:47.00 | Newyearios | Right |
| 00:47.26 | Newyearios | So when I was 14 I was like "That's OK for them to kill these stormies, they're clones" |
| 00:47.27 | Monet | Although I can't remember, was the momentary mention of 'the clone wars' in the original release of episode IV? |
| 00:47.44 | AdmiralPanda | by the time of episode 4 there's only one continent of clones left and they all died on the original Death Star |
| 00:48.01 | Cyrannian | In the post AotC EU, I'm pretty sure clones served for longer, but in the new canon they were discontinued in the years after episode 3 |
| 00:48.26 | Monet | I find that Episode VII's stormtroopers were a lot more competent. |
| 00:48.33 | OluapPlayer | "your aim is STILL shit" |
| 00:48.59 | The_Randomness | Monet: I agree |
| 00:49.23 | Monet | And come to think of it, there were some great moments from them. |
| 00:49.32 | Newyearios | OluapPlayer: Wait in what order are you watching the movies |
| 00:49.40 | OluapPlayer | Release order |
| 00:49.54 | Cyrannian | Mostly due to the characterisation of the clones in the Clone Wars series I'd imagine, plus Order 66 being hard wired into them rather than a something they were trained to expect |
| 00:49.57 | Monet | Like that scene where Ren has a tantrum, two troopers march down the corridor, halt when they hear Ren screaming and promptly march the other way. |
| 00:50.37 | The_Randomness | Heh |
| 00:51.10 | Monet | Even when the Sith are practically extinct, normal people now to stay well away from one throwing a wobbly. |
| 00:51.22 | Monet | know* |
| 00:52.45 | Monet | Although really the whole 'cloned from one source' is sketchy at best. |
| 00:53.25 | Monet | jango was a great marksman, but diversity is an effective component of any army. |
| 00:54.43 | Monet | You need quartermasters, intelligence crews, engineers, doctors, pilots, rangefinders, mechanics, logistics experts. |
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| 00:55.16 | Monet | As badass as jango may be, is he really that mentally flexible? |
| 00:55.19 | Monet | Hi |
| 00:56.20 | Monet | I think one reason for military psyche exams is to see where in the organisation a candidate fits best. |
| 00:56.20 | Technobliterator | the clones were altered so he wasnt |
| 00:56.52 | Monet | Altered, but weren't there also 'deviant' clones treated as abberants? |
| 01:04.07 | Newyearios | Weren't these like mishaps |
| 01:04.09 | Newyearios | Genetic errors |
| 01:04.31 | Newyearios | OluapPlayer: ß çà ïîë ãîäà ïîìåíÿëà ñâîé êðóã îáùåíèz |
| 01:04.32 | Newyearios | oops mistake |
| 01:04.38 | Newyearios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACuzzd_BZzk This |
| 01:05.11 | OluapPlayer | Sick spins |
| 01:05.24 | Newyearios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkwf88kSGmg |
| 01:05.38 | GD12 | Cyrannian : Forgot to mention this but the Judicator looks beautiful |
| 01:05.43 | Monet | WHen you have an army of clones, 'error' can be either a good or bad trait. |
| 01:05.57 | Newyearios | Would that be enough for me to repay |
| 01:06.04 | Cyrannian | Danke GD12, took a while to get it right |
| 01:06.28 | OluapPlayer | No one is asking you to repay them for anything |
| 01:08.21 | Newyearios | Them as in who |
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| 01:22.05 | OluapPlayer | AdmiralPanda: https://49.media.tumblr.com/3612924f0740f3db0e0b340a7d11053c/tumblr_nj9prxwnY31tkrqfjo1_400.gif |
| 01:26.54 | Newyearios | Alright guys have to go to sleep |
| 01:26.56 | Newyearios | Bye |
| 01:28.12 | OluapPlayer | Bye |
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| 01:30.21 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 01:32.03 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 01:32.27 | Tek0516 | Happy new years, still 8:30pm here |
| 01:36.52 | Wormy_ | thanks, hope its good for you as well |
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| 01:42.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 01:53.23 | Monet | You could have hi |
| 02:04.39 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:06.21 | OluapPlayer | Now it's New Year for me |
| 02:06.24 | OluapPlayer | happy New Year |
| 02:08.57 | Wormy_ | Happy New Year |
| 02:09.01 | Wormy_ | !!1! |
| 02:10.33 | Wormy_ | New Year's Eve: North Korea celebrates 2016 with bizarre broadcast http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/new-years-eve-north-korea-7099087 |
| 02:19.24 | Wormy_ | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1509861_1000214586703831_4460556716691508252_n.jpg?oh=531b381c0670c0c899df4ad9748d1b87&oe=57205DDA |
| 02:24.32 | OluapPlayer | wot |
| 02:48.14 | Monet | I just remembered something interesting about Minos'Drakon with the new geography. |
| 02:48.50 | Monet | Judging the the latitude, it spends maybe half of the year in endless night. |
| 02:57.11 | Monet | Must be wierd for locals but now I wonder about plant life |
| 03:03.59 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 03:04.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah plant life may find it hard to adapt... |
| 03:04.34 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe there's a lot of trees, or similar plants that can store a lot of food |
| 03:04.36 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 03:11.54 | Monet | I was wondering about trees. |
| 03:12.04 | Monet | They might eb similar to pine trees at that latitude |
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| 03:15.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 03:27.08 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 03:43.24 | GD2016 | ohai |
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| 03:59.27 | TekDroid | 11:59pm in Atlantic time... |
| 04:00.06 | DrodoEmpire | Happy new year! :D |
| 04:00.11 | TekDroid | Happy New Year Drodo |
| 04:00.14 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 04:00.23 | DrodoEmpire | I can't believe the world's 2016 years old now |
| 04:00.29 | DrodoEmpire | Crazy time its been huh? |
| 04:00.33 | TekDroid | >.> |
| 04:01.29 | DrodoEmpire | I gotta go for a bit, be back on in a bit! |
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| 04:25.34 | TekDroid | Lots of overly loud bass, marijuana and personal space violations. Loving this celebration. -.- |
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| 04:34.55 | TekDroid | Terrible signal down here |
| 04:37.34 | TekDroid | They don't even have live music |
| 04:48.00 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 04:48.51 | TekDroid | no idea |
| 04:49.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm? |
| 05:00.38 | Comrade_Vinny | IT'S 2016 IN CANADA! |
| 05:01.45 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 05:02.06 | DrodoEmpire | Been so for an hour here in fishermanistan |
| 05:02.09 | DrodoEmpire | (Nova Scotia) |
| 05:06.23 | Comrade_Vinny | Ok, let me change it... |
| 05:06.33 | Comrade_Vinny | IT'S 2016 IN (real) CANADA! |
| 05:08.11 | Comrade_Vinny | :p |
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| 05:09.14 | TekDroid | Happy new year |
| 05:10.22 | Comrade_Vinny | Hey Tek! |
| 05:10.48 | Comrade_Vinny | Now Canada is in 2016, it is the official year |
| 05:14.37 | TekDroid | Finally some elbow room |
| 05:22.44 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/NYpS989 - What the fuck did I just read |
| 05:29.42 | Comrade_Vinny | OMG! |
| 05:29.49 | Comrade_Vinny | Imperios must read that! |
| 05:29.57 | Comrade_Vinny | ImpyDroid! |
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| 08:41.50 | Liquid_Ink | Merry New Year, ImpyDroid |
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| 09:14.41 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire Comrade_Vinny: Forgive not reading, I was very sleep |
| 09:14.57 | ImpyDroid | And this copy pasta is very gay also |
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| 11:48.24 | Imperios | Hiya |
| 11:49.49 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 11:49.53 | Liquid_Ink | Merry New Year |
| 11:50.38 | Imperios | Thanx |
| 11:50.48 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 11:52.14 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Just curious, have you played the Arkham series? |
| 11:52.34 | OluapPlayer | I haven't |
| 11:52.35 | Imperios | There's a sale today, I'll probably buy it |
| 11:52.45 | Imperios | Won't play until calculus is done though |
| 11:54.21 | OluapPlayer | I see |
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| 12:01.54 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
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| 12:03.25 | Imperios | http://s5.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2015/10/20/6/1445328366_1842677774.jpeg |
| 12:04.29 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 12:05.00 | Imperios | Hi |
| 12:07.05 | AdmiralPanda | so I have finally met Curie in fallout 4 and let me say this: clearly the power of boners is strong because she is so useless XD |
| 12:07.51 | OluapPlayer | You have 164 hours of Fallout 4 and only met Curie? |
| 12:07.58 | OluapPlayer | just* |
| 12:08.29 | AdmiralPanda | well she's behind two quests in a vault I visited exactly once and then left because there was nothing to shoot there |
| 12:08.36 | AdmiralPanda | that and Cait is life |
| 12:08.50 | OluapPlayer | But yeah, from what I've seen of her, she's cute |
| 12:09.13 | AdmiralPanda | she has a sexy accent and once you get her synth body she looks kinda hot (which I'm not sure I can still do since I kinda murderised the Railroad) |
| 12:09.30 | AdmiralPanda | but she's naive to the point of stupidity and unlike Cait, doesn't like it when I run around naked and shoot people |
| 12:10.28 | OluapPlayer | I prefer her Mister Handy body |
| 12:10.30 | OluapPlayer | Looks cuter |
| 12:10.49 | AdmiralPanda | looks cute but then you realise she can't walk through doors |
| 12:11.33 | AdmiralPanda | I was intending to just keep her as a Ms. Nanny but then we went through three buildings that she couldn't get anywhere into because of being a Ms. Nanny |
| 12:11.45 | OluapPlayer | how dis |
| 12:11.55 | OluapPlayer | You got Codsworth who as far as I can see is larger than her |
| 12:12.08 | AdmiralPanda | she can't fit through some doors apparently |
| 12:12.12 | AdmiralPanda | neither can Codsworth |
| 12:12.20 | OluapPlayer | Wow |
| 12:12.27 | AdmiralPanda | yeah |
| 12:12.37 | OluapPlayer | Props to the level designers |
| 12:12.41 | AdmiralPanda | so in the toss up between sexy french accent and sexy Irish accent, I married Cait |
| 12:13.19 | AdmiralPanda | plus Cait looks nice in the Grognak outfit |
| 12:16.50 | OluapPlayer | As for me I've been playing Dork Souls 2 Scholar edition |
| 12:16.58 | AdmiralPanda | how's that going for you? |
| 12:16.59 | OluapPlayer | God I hate that shitty two headed horse boss |
| 12:17.09 | OluapPlayer | It's not even hard, I just always get nervous and mess up |
| 12:17.29 | AdmiralPanda | actually I used Dark Souls as an example of why Warframe's melee system will never really have meaningful diversity |
| 12:17.58 | OluapPlayer | So I skipped that. Last thing I did was kill the Covetous Demon |
| 12:18.12 | OluapPlayer | Some of the new encounters are interesting |
| 12:19.13 | OluapPlayer | Still I was surprised by the Skelly Lord boss because they added even MORE skeletons to that |
| 12:19.36 | OluapPlayer | That one Lord you kill that spawns 4 normal skellies? Now it spawns like 8 at least |
| 12:20.39 | OluapPlayer | I imagine that fight being satisfying if you're using a weapon with a lot of horizontal range, like an ultra greatsword |
| 12:25.27 | AdmiralPanda | indeed it is |
| 12:26.27 | OluapPlayer | You don't have to deal with Bell shitters anymore either, since they moved the Bastille Key out of that area |
| 12:26.36 | OluapPlayer | Killing the Gargoyles nets you the Dragon Tooth though |
| 12:30.03 | OluapPlayer | There are also Pursuers around the Lost Bastille |
| 12:30.11 | OluapPlayer | You find him like 4 times in different places |
| 12:30.37 | OluapPlayer | The Pursuer actually pursues you in this version (up to a point), that's an improvement |
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| 12:33.51 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 12:34.02 | Wormy_ | I'm having cake for my new year breakfast |
| 12:34.31 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 12:46.57 | AdmiralPanda | also I've basically consigned myself to the fact that the sniper rifle upgraded from the hunting rifle in F4 is just pointless |
| 12:47.18 | AdmiralPanda | combat sniper rifles are just so much better, the ammo is easier to find and the damage isn't much lower |
| 12:47.42 | OluapPlayer | I see |
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| 12:49.16 | AdmiralPanda | and when I say so much better, they're semi-automatic with much larger magazines |
| 12:52.16 | Wormy_ | http://edge.org/response-detail/26701 |
| 12:57.03 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/XlPEO |
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| 13:03.02 | Wormy_ | Sometimes Neil says things that I don't agree with https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/682679378136797184 |
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| 13:45.54 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 13:55.29 | GD12 | ohai |
| 13:55.37 | GD12 | happy new year |
| 13:55.43 | GD12 | eck hangovers are evil |
| 13:55.44 | ImpyDroid | iahO |
| 13:56.39 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 13:56.49 | Wormy_ | indeed |
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| 14:17.16 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray Wormy_: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1451656101442.png |
| 14:17.58 | DrodoEmpire | Oh god |
| 14:18.07 | ImpyDroid | This was probably a mistake on his part but thanks to Erdogan |
| 14:18.16 | ImpyDroid | This is pretty much true hur |
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| 14:56.08 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: That logic |
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| 15:02.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 15:23.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hi! |
| 15:24.44 | Monet | Hi |
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| 15:37.33 | dino82 | hello all |
| 15:38.05 | dino82 | happy newyear and the best wishes to all with all the luck and health for 2016! |
| 15:38.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
| 15:39.41 | Monet | Cheers dino :) Hope 2016 is good. |
| 15:40.43 | dino82 | Monet! Yeah hope for all as well! With lots of fun, good things and a nice spore time on the wikia :D |
| 15:40.51 | dino82 | enjoyed the fireworks? |
| 15:45.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hey dino! :D |
| 15:49.02 | Monet | London's fireworks were as impressive as always. |
| 15:49.25 | dino82 | HEllo Drodo! |
| 15:49.38 | dino82 | Great to hear! Saw many cities on television at the news, impressive shows |
| 15:53.08 | ImpyDroid | Monet: I take the fireworks are a public business in the UK? |
| 15:54.23 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 15:57.42 | TekDroid | I was at the Toronto New Years stuff |
| 16:06.55 | Monet | Impydroid: public business? |
| 16:07.13 | Monet | I don't know who arranges it but every year there's a mssive fireworks display at the London Eye |
| 16:07.24 | ImpyDroid | Ah so it is organised |
| 16:08.06 | ImpyDroid | We just set off fireworks independently everywhere |
| 16:10.00 | TekDroid | We had a big one on city hall here |
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| 16:32.22 | Hachiman | AndroImp: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1469931_396118970558651_703350145857644248_n.jpg?oh=5da81e165bf84b6d09c2823b36e079a9&oe=571FFFFD |
| 16:32.44 | AndroImp | DIEEEEE |
| 16:32.45 | OluapPlayer_ | >all 57 genders |
| 16:32.50 | OluapPlayer_ | That's a new record |
| 16:32.52 | AndroImp | CIIIIS |
| 16:32.57 | AndroImp | SCUUUUUUM |
| 16:33.25 | DrodoEmpire | Guys the CIS was destroyed during the Clone Wars |
| 16:33.26 | DrodoEmpire | chill |
| 16:33.53 | AndroImp | I like how CIS is actually the name for the alliance of post-Soviet countries |
| 16:34.01 | AndroImp | I am literally CIS scum |
| 16:34.05 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 16:34.13 | OluapPlayer_ | That means you just declared your own death |
| 16:34.30 | Vincent20100 | Well for me CIS stands for Confederation of Allied Systems... |
| 16:34.51 | AndroImp | Commonwealth of Independent States |
| 16:35.54 | Hachiman | How did the CIS collapse during the Clone Wars? |
| 16:36.04 | Hachiman | I must have forgotten how it was defeated |
| 16:36.18 | OluapPlayer_ | did u never watch ster wers |
| 16:36.27 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno if its clear, I think the chain of events during the Clone Wars is a bit murky |
| 16:36.35 | Vincent20100 | IIndependant |
| 16:36.43 | AndroImp | Lil' Vader decapitated its government |
| 16:36.52 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 16:36.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Anteddy merged it with the URC to create the Empire |
| 16:37.00 | Hachiman | You mean those racist Not!Asian guys |
| 16:37.00 | OluapPlayer_ | No wait, wrong Allied Systems |
| 16:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | I figure that they had a *lot* of their top staff killed in Episode III and after that it was just mopping up |
| 16:37.01 | AndroImp | Then the clones slowly absorbed |
| 16:37.05 | AndroImp | it |
| 16:37.24 | AndroImp | OluapPlayer_: Pretty much the same thing happened |
| 16:37.32 | AndroImp | Hachiman: Them and Dooku |
| 16:37.37 | Hachiman | And Grievous |
| 16:37.41 | AndroImp | And Grievous bit he was killed by Obi |
| 16:38.08 | Hachiman | "I am not a droid!" |
| 16:39.05 | AndroImp | Obi-Wan - Droid droid droid droid droid droid droid |
| 16:41.36 | dino82 | Concluded the Battle of Ramar Shadda: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Battle_of_Ramar_Shadda |
| 16:41.36 | Monet | AndroImp: Anakin killed the CIS leaders on Mustafar |
| 16:41.53 | AndroImp | Yes that is what I was referring to |
| 16:44.22 | AndroImp | Hachiman: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523555/Horror-Australian-incest-cult-spanned-generations-revealed.html |
| 16:44.44 | Monet | With all the leaders dead, there were no CIS members ot oppose Palpatine's declaration |
| 16:45.27 | Hachiman | Oh boy |
| 16:46.07 | OluapPlayer_ | wankers |
| 16:47.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Good job dino |
| 16:51.32 | dino82 | Thanks Oluap! :D |
| 16:52.36 | AndroImp | Aussie Targaryens |
| 16:53.52 | Hachiman | I hate to imagine what their children look like |
| 16:54.31 | Hachiman | Now that you mention it, it does make me wonder how Viserys and Daenerys could come out looking so beautiful and proper when they are from an inbred lineage |
| 16:55.22 | AndroImp | They are dragons |
| 16:55.39 | AndroImp | #Magic |
| 16:55.49 | dino82 | lol |
| 16:56.06 | AndroImp | >It took dumb brits literally two hundred yeas to figure out how strayans reproduce. So much for anglo dominance. |
| 16:57.31 | TekDroid | As another point on the destroying the CIS thing earlier, when he killed the leaders at Mustafar he also sent the order to shut down the droid armies or something |
| 16:58.21 | Hachiman | So in truth, the result of the Clone Wars was that both the Galactic Republic and the CIS were toppled |
| 16:58.30 | Hachiman | There was no winner other than the Sith |
| 16:59.34 | TekDroid | Basically |
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| 17:04.45 | Hachiman | Fucking internet |
| 17:16.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Ngh where's Xho |
| 17:16.27 | Monet | Hachiman: It was Darth Bane's grand plan. |
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| 17:16.52 | Hachiman | I thought it was Sidious who wanted it to happen? |
| 17:17.51 | Monet | Sidious was the final orchestrator. The plan to topple the republic had been ongoing for roughly 1000 years |
| 17:20.05 | Monet | Sidious was merely continuing a plan laid out by Darth Bane. |
| 17:20.50 | Hachiman | Hm I see |
| 17:35.33 | AndroImp | Monet: He's a big Sith |
| 17:35.43 | Hachiman | UUUU |
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| 17:36.27 | OluapPlayer_ | SPI |
| 17:36.38 | Xho | ips |
| 17:36.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho Hachiman AndroImp: fog war NAO |
| 17:37.03 | AndroImp | Right |
| 17:38.10 | Xho | k |
| 17:38.12 | Hachiman | I feel a little tired but sure |
| 17:38.15 | Xho | I'm gonna have to multitask |
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| 17:55.59 | Hachiman | Hi Aeo |
| 17:56.11 | Aeo | Hi. |
| 18:08.11 | Hachiman | "A Chinese friend of mine died recently, Su Yung." "Sounds like my friend Tu Soon." |
| 18:09.32 | Vincent20100 | lol |
| 18:42.56 | Aeo | test |
| 18:45.55 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 18:58.42 | Technobliterator | pretty sure Darth Bane is no longer canon |
| 19:01.18 | TekDroid | Yeah |
| 19:01.36 | TekDroid | Anything pre-Episode 1 is non-canon |
| 19:01.44 | TekDroid | Also hello Aeo |
| 19:01.52 | Aeo | Hi |
| 19:02.16 | TekDroid | Oh wait you joined an hour ago, not 10 minutes ago. :P |
| 19:02.35 | Aeo | Well hi anyway. |
| 19:02.48 | Aeo | gives TekDroid a bro-hug. |
| 19:03.22 | Monet | I don't care what is canon and what isn't. Fuck Disney's decree. |
| 19:04.04 | TekDroid | I still consider all the pre-Episode 1 stuff canon unless stated otherwise |
| 19:04.10 | Monet | By Disney's logic I'm subscribed to a non-canon MMO that I happen to enjoy. |
| 19:04.17 | Technobliterator | Well, it's already stated otherwise |
| 19:04.27 | Technobliterator | it's canon only within Legends continuity |
| 19:04.34 | Technobliterator | SWTOR is non-canon |
| 19:04.56 | TekDroid | I still consider the lore of the era canon until Disney contradicts the canon |
| 19:05.16 | Monet | Non-canon in relation to the movies and whatever cash-cow spinoffs Disney make. |
| 19:06.30 | Monet | I'm sorry I am just sick to death of hearing "That information is unofficial by order of Disney". |
| 19:06.32 | Charles_Murray | Make the prequels non-canon while you're at it |
| 19:06.35 | Charles_Murray | pleeeeeaaaaase |
| 19:06.38 | Technobliterator | they probably will |
| 19:06.46 | Technobliterator | when SWKOTOR remake comes out |
| 19:06.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Denying it won't change anything, they own the IP now and their word is the law |
| 19:06.52 | Monet | Thet can't. |
| 19:07.21 | TekDroid | I'm fine with non-canon by virtue of being contradicted by the new official canon, I just don't like bulk removing everything and replacing with nothing |
| 19:07.24 | Charles_Murray | Not necessarily. Ultimately we can decide if a work is non-canon or not |
| 19:07.40 | Monet | Charles hit my point exactly. |
| 19:07.42 | Technobliterator | you can't decide whether it's official canon |
| 19:07.53 | Technobliterator | SWKOTOR remake is obviously coming |
| 19:07.54 | OluapPlayer_ | The community does not decide what is canon or not. The owner does |
| 19:07.57 | Monet | We can by way of la morte d'auteur. |
| 19:08.10 | Technobliterator | it's been rumoured for ages, and EA owns BioWare |
| 19:08.29 | Monet | la mort de l'auteur. |
| 19:09.02 | Hachiman | I think it is unhealthy to keep believing something is canon when it has been confirmed not by a product's owner |
| 19:09.03 | Charles_Murray | OluapPlayer_ If you give them that power and recognize it? o.O Or you could just screw them and believe what you want to believe. You don't need to follow their "decrees." |
| 19:09.12 | Hachiman | It is like denying that a person has died when they have |
| 19:09.28 | Charles_Murray | I disagree |
| 19:09.57 | Hachiman | It is like saying, "I believe that [insert centuries old historical figure]" is still around when they are very clearly not |
| 19:09.58 | OluapPlayer_ | That's what you believe then |
| 19:10.02 | Charles_Murray | Especially if said owner is wholly disrespecting the IP |
| 19:10.16 | Monet | Disney doesnt' own a monopoly on Star Wars. Like Techno pointed out, a part of the Star Wars IP is held by Bioware. |
| 19:11.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Real world doesn't work that easily. The guy with the official documents has the final say, not the community |
| 19:11.09 | Hachiman | They kind of do considering they are the ones producing the films |
| 19:11.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Choosing to ignore it is just that, a choice |
| 19:12.10 | Hachiman | It's kind of like denying climate change |
| 19:12.19 | Charles_Murray | Or you can just ignore the movie? o.O |
| 19:12.22 | Monet | And I choose to ignore that the established EU is no longer what we should be interested in. |
| 19:12.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Ignoring it won't make it go away |
| 19:12.34 | Charles_Murray | Ignore climate change in a fictional world? |
| 19:12.40 | OluapPlayer_ | It's still there, it's still valid |
| 19:12.45 | Hachiman | No, ignoring climate change in reality |
| 19:13.02 | Hachiman | In reality, the EU that you want is no longer canon and all evidence points to that |
| 19:13.31 | Monet | Liek i said I'm still invested in the TOR continuity. |
| 19:13.58 | Technobliterator | you can be invested in TOR continuity |
| 19:14.04 | Technobliterator | because it's canon within TOR |
| 19:14.07 | Charles_Murray | I agree, it is like ignoring climate change, except without the harmful defects. Denying climate change is like living in your own world with your own canon. It is of your choosing. In this case, it isn't at all harmful since it's not real. It gives you more agency and allows you to enjoy the content you want. |
| 19:14.09 | Technobliterator | it's not canon within Star Wars |
| 19:14.29 | Technobliterator | until BioWare release the long awaited KOTOR remake and declare TOR is canon again |
| 19:14.33 | Technobliterator | whicch will obviously happen |
| 19:14.46 | Monet | So what's SWTOR at present then? |
| 19:14.50 | Charles_Murray | I'm not saying this is the -correct- way to do it, I'm suggesting that it's just as valid. |
| 19:14.53 | Hachiman | It is still equally as stupid as denying climate change |
| 19:14.56 | Monet | What with the release of Knights of the Fallen Empire |
| 19:15.40 | Technobliterator | it's Legends |
| 19:15.58 | Hachiman | Just because the EU is no longer canon does not mean you cannot enjoy what is already present; you just have to accept that it is no longer relevant to the *actual* lore |
| 19:16.15 | Hachiman | It is basically fanfiction now |
| 19:16.21 | Hachiman | And you are allowed to enjoy that |
| 19:16.44 | Charles_Murray | Or you can have your canon, I can have my own canon? |
| 19:16.52 | Monet | My main argument is I'm tired of peopel talking about the EU like it may as well not exist. |
| 19:17.21 | Monet | The only reason it doesn't exist is because Michael Eisner says so. |
| 19:17.57 | OluapPlayer_ | That's fanon |
| 19:18.21 | OluapPlayer_ | You can have your fanon as much as you want, but the real canon still exists |
| 19:18.40 | Monet | The Deus Ex community disowned Invisible War long ago but I think there is still a degree of canonicity to it by its original developers. |
| 19:19.13 | Hachiman | The *community* consider Invisible War non-canon, not the owners |
| 19:19.15 | Monet | But by the opinion of the vast majority of the Deus Ex community, Invisible War never happened. |
| 19:19.28 | Hachiman | Therefore, the community is wrong |
| 19:19.37 | Monet | Stil lthe prevailign opinion. |
| 19:19.46 | Hachiman | Yes but still wrong |
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| 19:20.20 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 19:20.49 | Monet | Hi |
| 19:23.23 | Monet | There's been an opinion floating aroudn for a couple of decades now that the connection between the content of a literary work and the power of its owner stops once other people begin to read it. We see it in forum consensus over such things as which characters are likeable, relationships, the personalities of characters. |
| 19:25.09 | Hachiman | That is just that; an opinion |
| 19:25.13 | Hachiman | Not an objective fact |
| 19:25.29 | Monet | Philosophy is rarely objective facts. |
| 19:25.51 | Hachiman | And in the case of canoncity, the objective is more relevant and prevailing than the subjective |
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| 19:28.17 | Monet | in the end when debating how official elements of Star Wars are we're debating over what actually or didn't actually happen in a location and a sequence of events that ultimately never happened in the first place. |
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| 19:29.41 | Hachiman | That just sounds like a desperate attempt to disregard the objective fact Disney imposed with a subjective opinion that has no bearing on the SW canoncity |
| 19:32.03 | Charles_Murray | Unless you don't recognize Disney's authority. |
| 19:32.08 | Charles_Murray | Then it's all subjective. |
| 19:32.19 | Hachiman | No, then you are being dumb |
| 19:32.23 | Hachiman | Disney owns the property |
| 19:32.28 | Charles_Murray | *shrug* The only reason you find it objective is because you believe that that's the authority. |
| 19:32.36 | Hachiman | It *IS* the authority |
| 19:32.39 | Charles_Murray | And what if I don't believe that that matters? |
| 19:32.52 | Hachiman | I do not *believe* Disney owns Star Wars; they *DO* own Star Wars |
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| 19:33.01 | Monet | Actually I coudl compare this to debates over the sequences of real-world historical events; We can't know for sure what is the truth and the best we have is to work out which of two potentially-contradictory accoutns is closest to what actualyl happened. |
| 19:33.25 | Hachiman | Personally I just think you are being desperate and difficult because you find it too hard to let go |
| 19:33.35 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 19:33.43 | Monet | And in debates of events at history you *do* sometimes get a singular authority delcaring what they want peopel to consider the truth. |
| 19:33.51 | Hachiman | Oh my God |
| 19:33.59 | Charles_Murray | That's not what I said. They -do- own the ip which gives them the right to sue people in US courts of law for the use of certain symbols, names, and concepts. |
| 19:34.08 | Charles_Murray | That right isn't recognized in all countries. |
| 19:34.24 | Charles_Murray | Companies let a lot of reproductions, fanfilms, cosplays, etc, slip for practical reasons. |
| 19:34.25 | Hachiman | Are you saying Disney is declaring that they own the IP when they *might not* when they actually *do*? |
| 19:34.39 | Charles_Murray | No? |
| 19:34.41 | Charles_Murray | They do |
| 19:34.42 | Hachiman | Nit you |
| 19:34.45 | Hachiman | Not even |
| 19:35.01 | Hachiman | Disney is trying to lie to us; they do not own Star Wars at all |
| 19:35.04 | Charles_Murray | I'm saying it doesn't matter |
| 19:35.07 | Hachiman | That is what I hear |
| 19:35.15 | Xho | Well the fact that Episode VII's premise did do away with a lot of the Legends canon does kind of explain itself |
| 19:35.18 | Technobliterator | You don't need to make this more complicated than it is. The reality is that it the EU is no longer recognized within Star Wars canon. This does not mean you cannot enjoy it. |
| 19:35.36 | Hachiman | Exactlu |
| 19:35.38 | Hachiman | Exactly |
| 19:35.50 | Monet | Disney didn't create the Star Wars franchise. And before they got their hands on it the IP has been shared across multipel studios. |
| 19:36.08 | Technobliterator | That doesn't mean anything, they own it now |
| 19:36.30 | Charles_Murray | I personally don't -like- most of EU fiction. I'm just appalled that you guys would give Disney so much power over what you enjoy and believe to be a part of the Star Wars universe. |
| 19:36.47 | Xho | It's not even a subjective matter to be honest |
| 19:36.53 | Technobliterator | Well, we don't give them power, they gave themselves power |
| 19:36.55 | Technobliterator | by, well |
| 19:36.57 | Xho | There's not mention of the First Order in the EU so |
| 19:36.58 | Technobliterator | buying it |
| 19:37.01 | Xho | no* |
| 19:37.25 | Monet | What Disney have done, from a business standpoint, is proclaim *their* part of the Eu - the films and the TV shows is the "true" preoerty. Although how much of Lucasarts' video game work is Disney-canon I ao not know. |
| 19:37.44 | Technobliterator | they've already answered that question |
| 19:37.51 | Technobliterator | it's been made clear many times |
| 19:37.55 | Charles_Murray | It's highly subjective. Disney has the right to produce commercialized Star Wars content without legal retribution, that's pretty much all that means. |
| 19:38.10 | Hachiman | It's not subjective though |
| 19:38.12 | Charles_Murray | And if you want to go along with what they say is canon, fine. |
| 19:38.13 | Technobliterator | no, there's no subjectivity |
| 19:38.20 | Hachiman | Oh my God |
| 19:38.23 | Hachiman | Why are you being so dense |
| 19:38.24 | Xho | This a stupid argument anyway |
| 19:38.30 | Technobliterator | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon |
| 19:38.32 | Technobliterator | this is canon |
| 19:38.45 | Technobliterator | or rather |
| 19:38.46 | Technobliterator | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot this is |
| 19:38.56 | Charles_Murray | *sigh* Great. I love personal attacks. Thanks. |
| 19:39.15 | Xho | regends |
| 19:39.42 | Hachiman | "Oh, even though Disney OWNS the ENTIRETY of the Star Wars franchise and get to objectively decide what is and is not canon, I am going to deny all of that because I cannot handle the truth." |
| 19:39.43 | Hachiman | That is you |
| 19:39.56 | Charles_Murray | No? |
| 19:40.16 | Charles_Murray | Disney owns the intellectual property. This is undeniable. |
| 19:40.23 | Technobliterator | No one is saying that you're not allowed to enjoy what is in the EU |
| 19:40.41 | Technobliterator | but everyone is saying that that same EU is not canon anymore |
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| 19:40.42 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 19:40.52 | Technobliterator | you can "consider it" to have happened, but it didn't |
| 19:40.54 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 19:40.56 | Charles_Murray | It makes sense. And they can produce Star Wars content "legitimately" within the US system, i.e. without fear of retribution. |
| 19:41.17 | Technobliterator | there is no point making this more complicated than it is |
| 19:41.20 | Charles_Murray | They get to police and enforce their ip for commercial reasons. |
| 19:41.27 | Charles_Murray | But that doesn't mean they get to police what goes on inside my head. |
| 19:41.36 | Hachiman | Even though you are wrong |
| 19:41.39 | Charles_Murray | That's beyond their jurisdiction. Come on guys. |
| 19:41.52 | Technobliterator | "<Technobliterator> you can "consider it" to have happened, but it didn't" |
| 19:42.04 | Xho | What you want to accept as canon is beyond anyone's jurisdiction, true |
| 19:42.17 | Hachiman | But objectively, what you believe is canon is not |
| 19:42.27 | Hachiman | And you have to deal with that |
| 19:42.27 | Monet | Xho: That is what I have been doing. |
| 19:42.45 | Xho | But I guess as the films go on less and less of the EU will fit into what VIII and IX might have |
| 19:42.51 | Xho | Might thatis |
| 19:42.53 | Xho | *that is |
| 19:42.54 | Technobliterator | all we've been saying is that there's no real point doing that |
| 19:43.10 | Technobliterator | but if you want to, go ahead |
| 19:43.19 | Technobliterator | in related news, has anyone played Xenoblade Chronicles? |
| 19:43.23 | Technobliterator | I always wanted to try that game |
| 19:43.36 | Hachiman | Not yet |
| 19:43.49 | Xho | sounds dum go dai and make me sandwich |
| 19:43.51 | Xho | not in that order tho |
| 19:43.53 | Hachiman | I decided to lose interest in it after I heard the Western release is heavily censoring it |
| 19:43.55 | Technobliterator | neva |
| 19:44.01 | Xho | k |
| 19:44.07 | Technobliterator | Did it? eh |
| 19:44.10 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 19:44.27 | Hachiman | The company gave in to SJW complaints, just like the developer behind Dead or Alive 5 |
| 19:44.33 | Hachiman | Or whatever, some DoA game |
| 19:44.41 | Technobliterator | for the original or the new one |
| 19:44.58 | Hachiman | Japanese XC is uncensored, Western XC is censored |
| 19:45.31 | Technobliterator | oh, I couldn't play that anyway |
| 19:45.37 | Technobliterator | because I was going to play the original on 3DS |
| 19:45.51 | Technobliterator | also, hachi and OluapPlayer_, I now own my first Pokemon game :o |
| 19:45.58 | Hachiman | Which game? |
| 19:46.03 | Hachiman | Red, Blue, Yellow? |
| 19:46.08 | Technobliterator | Omega Ruby |
| 19:46.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Good choice |
| 19:46.23 | Hachiman | >not starting off with 1st Gen or 1st Gen remake |
| 19:46.25 | OluapPlayer_ | What's your starter? |
| 19:46.34 | Technobliterator | I haven't started playing just yet |
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| 19:46.43 | Technobliterator | I'll let you know which one I end up going for thoug |
| 19:46.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Right |
| 19:46.48 | Hachiman | Go for Mudkip |
| 19:46.56 | OluapPlayer_ | naw, Treecko da best |
| 19:46.57 | The_Randomness | The 1st gen games aren't very good IMO |
| 19:46.59 | The_Randomness | I'd start with 3rd gen |
| 19:47.01 | The_Randomness | honestly |
| 19:47.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Honestly, go for whatever you like |
| 19:47.18 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 19:47.32 | Hachiman | Either go for Mudkip or go for Torchic |
| 19:47.35 | Hachiman | Because Blaziken is <3 |
| 19:47.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Part of the fun in Pokemon is building your team |
| 19:47.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: fuck off forever thx |
| 19:47.49 | Charles_Murray | The_Randomness : Looks like we have a lot of Civ people |
| 19:48.00 | Charles_Murray | Want to try to get one of the games back together? |
| 19:48.01 | Technobliterator | I'm not sure if I should play Xenoblade or Zelda after Pokemon |
| 19:48.18 | The_Randomness | Sure, but I'm going to go eat lunch first |
| 19:48.25 | The_Randomness | So give me ~30 minutes |
| 19:48.30 | Comrade_Vinny | Zelda! |
| 19:48.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Get MONSTER HUNTER |
| 19:48.41 | Technobliterator | and that |
| 19:48.55 | Hachiman | MONSTER HUNTER |
| 19:49.00 | Hachiman | MEEEEOOOOOWWWWW |
| 19:49.34 | OluapPlayer_ | meownster nyanter |
| 20:11.18 | TekDroid | Charles_Murray The_Randomness: I have family arriving in half an hour or so, so I can't play |
| 20:11.34 | The_Randomness | ok |
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| 20:22.03 | The_Randomness | Charles_Murray: I'm available now |
| 20:24.40 | Hachiman | "People who speak two languages may unconsciously change their personalities when they switch language." |
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| 20:32.10 | Charles_Murray | Hachiman : Yeah, that's pretty much accurate |
| 20:32.21 | Charles_Murray | The_Randomness Who do we have? |
| 20:32.33 | The_Randomness | Hmm, not sure |
| 20:33.06 | The_Randomness | Let me poke Monet on Steam |
| 20:33.24 | Charles_Murray | Monet can't |
| 20:33.27 | The_Randomness | oh |
| 20:33.31 | Charles_Murray | :( |
| 20:33.50 | The_Randomness | hmm |
| 20:34.28 | The_Randomness | So, that leaves Xho and possibly drom for people we could ask |
| 20:35.03 | The_Randomness | drom__: Would you be up for some Civ V? |
| 20:35.13 | The_Randomness | Xho: How about you? |
| 20:35.36 | The_Randomness | If neither of them can, I'll just go back to playing FFXIV :p |
| 20:35.55 | Charles_Murray | Alright. Maybe we can try later today? |
| 20:36.05 | The_Randomness | probably |
| 20:36.41 | Charles_Murray | I like these civ games |
| 20:38.10 | drom__ | The_Randomness, hm? |
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| 20:41.36 | drom__ | Charles_Murray The_Randomness: You guys starting another Civ 5? |
| 20:41.59 | The_Randomness | Not right now, I'm in a dungeon atm |
| 20:46.19 | Xho | Nah don't feel like it |
| 20:46.21 | Charles_Murray | I think we've started too many civ games at this point |
| 20:46.28 | Charles_Murray | We should finish the ones already on the table |
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| 20:50.42 | Hellrock | Hello, just checking if my connection to the IRC still works. |
| 20:50.56 | OpelSpeedster | Hellrock: Are you the one who made that extradimensional civilization broadcasting the hostile message in the discussion board? |
| 20:51.17 | OpelSpeedster | (Sorry if I sound agressive, just curious) |
| 20:51.32 | Hellrock | no, they're not extradimensional. |
| 20:51.38 | Hellrock | They're just trying to learn how. |
| 20:52.04 | OluapPlayer_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#The_Second_Battle_of_Bonaih such is the end of Cairaovén and Telfinne |
| 20:52.05 | OpelSpeedster | Ah, alright |
| 20:53.19 | Hellrock | To introduce myself, I'm a new user, and said civilization being my first fiction. |
| 20:53.31 | Hachiman | I've seen you around for a while |
| 20:54.21 | OpelSpeedster | Welcome. |
| 20:55.49 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1170672_1660706794208994_5669798872022927210_n.jpg?oh=a4695e31341d61f031dafa81b1feff76&oe=5703851E |
| 20:58.11 | Hellrock | Happy New Year by the way. Unless you're using a different calendar. |
| 21:08.15 | Hellrock | OpelSpeedster: I also didn't intend for the message to be hostile. I wanted to preview it, but I accidently clicked publish, so I tried to edit it befoer anyone responded, to no avail. |
| 21:08.17 | DrodoAway | test |
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| 21:15.48 | OpelSpeedster | Hellrock: Well, mistakes happen. Welp, you'll probably have some trouble turning around that first impression though |
| 21:16.39 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Angazhar - krath was right all my servants are fucking retarded |
| 21:17.20 | OluapPlayer_ | Santorakh - JUST LIKE MINE |
| 21:18.03 | Xho | Angazhar - existential crisis inbound |
| 21:27.26 | AndroImp | Now that I think about it |
| 21:28.08 | AndroImp | We should have made Telfie Santa's servant rather than Aang's |
| 21:31.09 | OluapPlayer_ | bit too late for that now |
| 21:34.38 | OluapPlayer_ | We're so close to the Fog War ending |
| 21:34.43 | OluapPlayer_ | I can practically taste it |
| 21:38.12 | Xho | noh, dat just da dik in ur mouth |
| 21:38.15 | Xho | take it out nao |
| 21:40.30 | OluapPlayer_ | finish abyssus paeg |
| 21:40.50 | Xho | NOOOOOOOOH |
| 21:47.12 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Abyssus#Sapients Added Blood Drooks |
| 21:53.07 | OluapPlayer_ | bud |
| 21:53.09 | OluapPlayer_ | blud even |
| 21:54.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Kalarah - do wut i say or u become blood stew |
| 21:57.14 | Xho | Blood Drake - :c |
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| 22:35.50 | drom | blood stew is actually delicious |
| 22:36.22 | drom | blood sausage stronk |
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| 22:37.32 | DrodoEmpire | HI everyone |
| 22:38.13 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/ZPUZJ7q.jpg |
| 22:38.44 | drom | Seldom eaten meal, but a Swedish favorite |
| 22:43.04 | Hachiman | Blood sausage is pretty nice |
| 22:43.31 | Hachiman | In the UK, we call it black pudding |
| 22:45.45 | drom | we call it blood pudding |
| 22:46.14 | drom | MonetAway Charles_Murray: Seems like we got a well populated world. http://i.imgur.com/4IjZQ8D.png |
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| 22:54.14 | Hachiman | SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CUNT |
| 22:54.18 | Hachiman | Right back |
| 22:54.38 | OluapPlayer_ | watch ur language mr |
| 22:55.40 | The_Randomness | fk u too |
| 22:56.39 | drom | come ere you little bun |
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| 23:16.26 | AndroImp | I only saw it once on a Korean festival |
| 23:16.34 | AndroImp | Russians do not eat it apparently |
| 23:17.20 | AndroImp | OluapPlayer_ Hachiman: So apparently Bin Laden and a few other terrorist leaders had the title of prince |
| 23:17.36 | AndroImp | Or rather the Arabic approximation thereof |
| 23:17.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Prince bin |
| 23:18.21 | Hachiman | Well it would not have been "bin" since that roughly equates to "of" in Arabic names hur |
| 23:18.32 | OluapPlayer_ | PRINCE BIN |
| 23:18.36 | OluapPlayer_ | PUT IN THE TRASH BIN |
| 23:19.00 | Hachiman | And it would not surprise me that Osama bin Laden was considered an Arabic prince considering he came from a wealthy noble family |
| 23:19.45 | Hachiman | The bin Laden family has association with the House of Saud |
| 23:20.41 | AndroImp | Yep |
| 23:21.03 | Technobliterator | seriously considering giving up on Fallout 4, but I really don't want to |
| 23:21.23 | OluapPlayer_ | You shouldn't force yourself to play the game if you're not enjoying it |
| 23:21.24 | AndroImp | But it is not just Bin Laden, apparently many Islamist leaders take the title of "Emir", which translates as either "Prince" or "Lord" |
| 23:21.29 | Technobliterator | it'd be a waste if I gave it up, but everytime I think about booting it up, I just think "ugh" |
| 23:21.36 | AndroImp | They are literally calling themselves lords |
| 23:21.47 | Hachiman | Well yeah; Arabians are egotists hur |
| 23:22.06 | Technobliterator | I genuinely think there is a bit to get to where I may start to enjoy it, that's why I'm forcing myself to play it |
| 23:22.39 | Technobliterator | it's also a bit shallow to say "oh I played a few hours and was overwhelmed by it so I just quit without spending much time playing it" |
| 23:23.32 | AndroImp | Arabians is not a thing |
| 23:23.38 | AndroImp | It is Arabs |
| 23:24.01 | AndroImp | Arabians would probably only work to describe the citizen of Saudi Arabia |
| 23:24.14 | AndroImp | In which case yes |
| 23:24.22 | Wormy_away | Technobliterator: The game will get better, I cleared out a whole hotel and hospital of supermutants today |
| 23:24.22 | AndroImp | Saudis suck |
| 23:24.32 | Wormy_away | Felt like gun kata expert |
| 23:25.19 | Hachiman | Arabs are such an egotistical and brown-nosed lot |
| 23:25.53 | Hachiman | There are no legal refugees from Syria residing in Saudi Arabi despite how close the countries are |
| 23:26.14 | OluapPlayer_ | You're playing Fallout 4, Wormy? |
| 23:26.20 | OluapPlayer_ | I thought you were still on 3 |
| 23:26.54 | AndroImp | ^ Saudi Arabia needs to go to Hell |
| 23:27.02 | AndroImp | Or rather to Jahannam |
| 23:27.15 | The_Randomness | Saudi Arabia is messed up, but incredibly rich |
| 23:27.39 | AndroImp | You shouldn't mix the Saudis with the rest though |
| 23:28.00 | AndroImp | Other Arab countries are better, but the Saudis are bringing them sown |
| 23:28.02 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 23:28.05 | AndroImp | *down |
| 23:28.15 | AndroImp | Other Middle Eastern countries, same thing |
| 23:28.44 | AndroImp | Apparently Saudis spread Arabic textbooks to our Muslim students who wished to study their religion |
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| 23:29.05 | Wormy_away | OluapPlayer_ Still on 3, enjoying it too much to give up for 4 yet |
| 23:29.17 | OluapPlayer_ | Jo is talking about 4 |
| 23:29.24 | OluapPlayer_ | It doesn't play the same as 3 |
| 23:29.25 | Wormy_away | I still think I should be able to impart some advise and encouragement? |
| 23:29.27 | AndroImp | In the very first part, that described the letters, the word that stood for "sh" was "shahid", and showed FUCKING BIN LADEN |
| 23:30.05 | OluapPlayer_ | I was just making sure. The two games are not that alike when you get to play them |
| 23:30.45 | Wormy_away | I understand, yeah. Fallout 4 is still open world though, right? It must have some game mechanics in common. |
| 23:31.15 | OluapPlayer_ | It is, but it downplays the RPG side of things in favor of the shooter parts |
| 23:31.23 | AndroImp | Egypt, etc are in general more civilized and less backwards, because they have always been centers of culture |
| 23:31.26 | Hachiman | You should play New Vegas |
| 23:31.27 | Wormy_away | It seems Jo has less experience with Western open woreld games aside from Mass Effect, and I tend to play open world games |
| 23:31.39 | OluapPlayer_ | That's something she stated |
| 23:31.51 | OluapPlayer_ | This is like, the first time she plays a non-Mass Effect WRPG |
| 23:32.02 | AndroImp | For all their faults the Baathists promoted the liberation of women and republicanism |
| 23:32.10 | Hachiman | Baathists? |
| 23:32.12 | OluapPlayer_ | And yes, New Vegas is best Fallout |
| 23:32.26 | AndroImp | Saddam, Assad, etc |
| 23:32.31 | Hachiman | Ah yes |
| 23:32.40 | Hachiman | Saddam actually did some admirable work |
| 23:32.46 | AndroImp | The socialist secular dictator guys in Mesopotamia |
| 23:32.48 | Wormy_away | In Fallout 4, I imagine you can build yourself up in the way I have done in 3, by not necessarily following the main quest but by exploring and doing lots of other quests (and getting ammo, gear etc.) |
| 23:33.16 | OluapPlayer_ | Equipment-wise, yeah |
| 23:33.21 | Technobliterator | This isn't the first time. This is only the second time I played a Bestheda game |
| 23:33.25 | Wormy_away | That's what I want to help her on |
| 23:33.43 | Technobliterator | I played Skyrim, got stuck on this dragon boss, and didn't really enjoy it enough to keep palying |
| 23:33.47 | AndroImp | Then again I should probably not criticize Saudi Arabia considering that my country is pretty much the same |
| 23:33.53 | Wormy_away | And it's all I probably can given the differences. |
| 23:34.08 | OluapPlayer_ | You did good, Skyrim is a massive world with nothing in it |
| 23:34.25 | Technobliterator | I didn't find any of the quests really interesting |
| 23:34.27 | AndroImp | Rich oil-producing corrupt reactionary right-wing autocracy that spreads its influence |
| 23:34.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Still when you get to play the game, you'll notice the difference. I really didn't like the feel of Fallout 4, which is why I didn't play more than 2 hours of it |
| 23:34.47 | AndroImp | That lives in an inhospitable land |
| 23:35.04 | Hachiman | You know what would have been cool |
| 23:35.18 | Hachiman | Siberian barbarians who rode atop mammoths |
| 23:35.48 | AndroImp | Aye |
| 23:35.49 | Wormy_away | Interesting, I will probably get frustrated with 4 if I expected it to be exactly like 3 |
| 23:36.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Eh, you might end up enjoying it. Our opinions might differ |
| 23:36.31 | OluapPlayer_ | I know for one that Panda loves Fallout 4 |
| 23:37.12 | Technobliterator | What I'm not liking other than finding it mostly dull is the menu system |
| 23:37.43 | OluapPlayer_ | All 3D games have that menu system |
| 23:37.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Thogh I find New Vegas's the most aesthetically pleasant |
| 23:39.01 | Wormy_away | What I like about 3, is the lore, and silly humour in it. But it feels like it has it's own rich world to me... But i wonder if Jo is not experiencing that because of the main quest line and struggling against the game mechanics. |
| 23:39.09 | Technobliterator | other than just finding it clunky, I don't enjoy the story, the environments bore me, the characters are uninteresting, and I don't find the gameplay very fun |
| 23:39.21 | OluapPlayer_ | The last bit |
| 23:39.24 | OluapPlayer_ | That's the most important |
| 23:39.28 | Wormy_away | Maybe it's a matter of taste then |
| 23:39.30 | OluapPlayer_ | If you're not having fun then it's not a game for you |
| 23:39.50 | Technobliterator | Game mechanics, mostly, but while I don't actively hate the story, it's just not interesting to me |
| 23:40.07 | Wormy_away | If you ca enjoy game mechanics, you might come to like the world |
| 23:40.13 | Technobliterator | I feel like it was a waste because obviously this game cost money, and I feel kind of cheated because I expected so much from this game |
| 23:40.42 | Wormy_away | Hm, maybe you should play some similar games and then come back to it? |
| 23:40.47 | OluapPlayer_ | The richest game in regards of story would be New Vegas |
| 23:41.53 | Technobliterator | I should point out, other than Mass Effect, the only WRPG I ever really loved enough to finish was KOTOR. And that was solely on the back of the story. I hated the gameplay. |
| 23:42.14 | OluapPlayer_ | That must've been hard |
| 23:42.23 | Technobliterator | The item system was just as frustrating for me, the combat as godawful, and I never felt like I had a clue wtf I was doing |
| 23:42.25 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd not play a game with bad gameplay, no matter how good the story is |
| 23:42.34 | Wormy_away | You see, I didn't have great time in Mass Effect |
| 23:42.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Gameplay is what make games games |
| 23:42.38 | Technobliterator | It was so bad that I had basically made the final boss impossible, so I hacked the game to give myself good equipment |
| 23:42.45 | Technobliterator | and beat the final boss that way |
| 23:42.52 | Technobliterator | with every single ability unlocked |
| 23:43.21 | OluapPlayer_ | ya losa ya hav ta cheet ta beet da boss ya so dum |
| 23:43.30 | Technobliterator | not like ya mom |
| 23:44.07 | Wormy_away | I want to like Mass Effect, but some of the game mechanics annoyed me, like the fact you have to go through the same dialogue over and over. And the fact it let me into a level on the main quest too early so that I die every time before the end |
| 23:44.12 | Technobliterator | I wanted to try out the Witcher, but I'm worried I'll have the same problem as with Fallout and it won't be worth it |
| 23:44.39 | Wormy_away | Is Witcher by Bethesda? |
| 23:44.44 | OluapPlayer_ | No |
| 23:44.59 | Wormy_away | You might not have the same experience |
| 23:45.01 | Technobliterator | no, I can't remember the dev |
| 23:45.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Witcher is by CD Projekt RED |
| 23:45.36 | Technobliterator | I'll probably play Fallout 4 more just so I can say I've given it more of a go and got at least some of my money's worth, but I won't be buying another Bethesda game |
| 23:46.12 | Wormy_away | Right well, the reason why I asked is because while it will share some open world elements, the game is likely to feel different. To me there is something Skyrim and Fallout 3 share |
| 23:46.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Only Witcher 3 is open world |
| 23:46.30 | OluapPlayer_ | 1 and 2 aren't |
| 23:48.45 | OluapPlayer_ | CD Projekt RED are a good game dev. They're openly against the use of DRM |
| 23:48.57 | OluapPlayer_ | In fact they're the owners of GOG.com, which's a platform with no DRM |
| 23:53.02 | Technobliterator | I might watch an LP on YouTube before deciding |
| 23:55.33 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire_ (2f37c603@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.55.198.3) |
| 23:57.30 | Xho | So many people on Facebook getting into relationships today |
| 23:57.37 | Xho | And here I am playing Fallout |
| 23:57.39 | Xho | Or was |
| 23:57.50 | Xho | Either way those relationships ain't gonna last |
| 23:59.31 | Xho | OluapPlayer_: Man Interivastius was a dickhead |
