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| 02:08.50 | DrodoEmpire | So Aeo you don't plan on returning to the fictionverse? |
| 02:09.08 | Aeo | Not in the foreseeable future. |
| 02:09.14 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 02:17.47 | DrodoEmpire | Don't figure anybody wants to do an RP? |
| 02:17.49 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 02:17.59 | DrodoEmpire | I'm bored, so I could if anyone else wants to |
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| 09:49.39 | AGrayCat | Comrade_Vinny: |
| 09:49.39 | AGrayCat | Liquid_Ink: |
| 09:49.55 | Liquid_Ink | AGrayCat: |
| 09:49.55 | Liquid_Ink | Hello. |
| 09:49.56 | AGrayCat | hello. |
| 09:50.15 | AGrayCat | Anything happened? |
| 09:50.57 | Liquid_Ink | No, not really. |
| 09:50.58 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 09:50.58 | Liquid_Ink | I lead a very uneventful life. |
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| 10:07.13 | AGrayCat | Technobliterator: |
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| 14:43.29 | TheImperios | http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1448634005471.jpg hur |
| 14:45.41 | AGrayCat | uh |
| 14:45.44 | AGrayCat | what? |
| 14:47.09 | AGrayCat | yay |
| 14:47.18 | AGrayCat | just finished a few paragraphs on flying animals |
| 14:47.48 | AdmiralPanda | at some point I should fully rework the ISF and then get some sort of fiction going |
| 14:48.09 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy_: There's a weapon concept I'd like to discuss with you |
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| 14:50.54 | AdmiralPanda | hi tech |
| 14:51.23 | AGrayCat | AdmiralPanda: Hi! |
| 14:51.40 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 14:53.30 | AGrayCat | ISF? |
| 14:54.30 | AdmiralPanda | one of the factions I created, a largely nomadic technocracy largely interested in increasing its own sum of knowledge |
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| 14:59.51 | Wormy_ | Panda: I'm all ears |
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| 15:02.39 | AdmiralPanda | the idea comes from the Adeptus Mechanicus,using rapidly decaying radium-impregnated rounds as anti-infantry firearms |
| 15:03.37 | AdmiralPanda | the idea being that the rapid surge of radiation would cause significant harm to biological matter, and with a concentrated enough salvo the area of impact would become sufficiently irradiated as to render cover ineffective regardless of accuracy |
| 15:05.18 | AdmiralPanda | I do know that sufficient doses of radiation are able to cause immediate effects, what I'm unsure of is if the idea of using radium or something similar could cause the intended high doses of radiation |
| 15:06.26 | Wormy_ | Hm, I am sceptical if this was a real life weapon. I mean yes, if you put an element or isotope with a short half-life into someone's body, the radiation is going to poison them from the inside if they survived the wound. But it would take a rodiculous amount of radiation to kill anyone with immediate effects |
| 15:06.46 | Wormy_ | *ridiculous |
| 15:07.57 | Wormy_ | There was a scientist who died within a few days after receiving the amount of radiation you would get at ground zero of the Hiroshima bomb, after dropping two spheres that became critical. |
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| 15:10.20 | AdmiralPanda | at greater than 30 gray (3000 rad), you get nausia and vomiting sufficient to hospitalise someone with an onset of a few minutes |
| 15:10.29 | Wormy_ | I'm not sure if radium (unless in huge doses) would give even an equivalent to what Louis Slotin experienced |
| 15:11.19 | AdmiralPanda | so the question is could an element generate enough radiation to achieve thirty joules of absorbed radiation per kilogram |
| 15:11.29 | AdmiralPanda | not necessarily radium, mind |
| 15:14.03 | Wormy_ | Yeah, that's the best question to follow. It may be a case that some elements hypothetically can, but will never survive long enough to be put into bullets. |
| 15:14.14 | Wormy_ | But I don't know |
| 15:15.40 | AdmiralPanda | fair enough, just asking because it seems like a devilishly perfect weapon for ISF drone armies as they would be unaffected by the radiation, while quickly making the battlefield itself inhospitable for the opposition |
| 15:21.57 | Wormy_ | Yes, it would certainly be effective even if it doesn't kill the wounded straight away. It would make recovery or emergency care next to impossible |
| 15:22.38 | Wormy_ | And sicken others who became close |
| 15:23.24 | AdmiralPanda | that and the aforementioned saturation effect; if you bombarded an area sufficiently you'd be able to sicken the enemy to the point that they can't fight anyway, effectively removing the threat regardless of whether they're dead now or in two days' time |
| 15:23.58 | AdmiralPanda | the fact that irradiation aside they are still conventional bullets and therefore hurt on their own notwithstanding |
| 15:27.10 | AGrayCat | Infantry warfare is useless in the Fiction Universe. |
| 15:27.16 | AGrayCat | Air support is just too heavy. |
| 15:28.15 | AdmiralPanda | not so really |
| 15:28.54 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 15:28.55 | AdmiralPanda | infantry still sees regular and effective use, in fact air support is relatively uncommon |
| 15:28.55 | AGrayCat | No. |
| 15:29.55 | AdmiralPanda | considering the wide variety of battlefields in the universe the tactical flexibility of infantry is still invaluable |
| 15:30.17 | AGrayCat | Point in case Chostvan Soyuz |
| 15:30.21 | AGrayCat | Air support is extremely heavy |
| 15:30.33 | AGrayCat | idea is to pummel the infantry from the air |
| 15:30.37 | AGrayCat | Now |
| 15:30.45 | AGrayCat | Imagine an entire battlegroup taking part in a major battle |
| 15:30.54 | AGrayCat | it would be a field of death |
| 15:31.45 | AdmiralPanda | Would be if anti-air technology had not also developed alongside all other aspects of military technology |
| 15:31.55 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 15:32.01 | AGrayCat | nuf |
| 15:32.02 | AGrayCat | bud |
| 15:32.12 | AGrayCat | when you have a bunch of flagships and battleships pummeling down death |
| 15:32.19 | AGrayCat | warfare is no longer useful. |
| 15:32.34 | AdmiralPanda | except when you need to capture the planet's infrastucture intact |
| 15:32.43 | Wormy_away | ^ |
| 15:32.44 | AdmiralPanda | just so you know, we had this discussion about two years ago |
| 15:33.07 | AdmiralPanda | infantry and land warfare are still essential for exactly the same reason they are today: take and hold |
| 15:33.48 | AGrayCat | I'm talking about open battle. |
| 15:33.52 | AGrayCat | Urban warfare would still exist. |
| 15:33.55 | AdmiralPanda | so am I |
| 15:33.56 | Wormy_away | There are also at least some civilisations which abhor planetary bombardment in the most cases. |
| 15:34.00 | AGrayCat | But infantry would no longer be a backbone. |
| 15:34.04 | Wormy_away | *in most cases |
| 15:34.23 | AGrayCat | Urban warfare would still exist |
| 15:34.47 | AGrayCat | but I would imagine most infantry in open battle... eh. Would be mainly above-ground aerial fighting. |
| 15:34.53 | AdmiralPanda | In what circumstance does an invading force permit the defender to maintain a space presence? |
| 15:35.19 | AGrayCat | exactly |
| 15:35.20 | AdmiralPanda | You're acting under the assumption that the defender still has orbital or naval capacity, when logic would dictate you destroy that first before boots touch ground. |
| 15:35.28 | AGrayCat | it would be a curbstomp for the invading force |
| 15:35.39 | AdmiralPanda | So, the naval force is already incapacitated, and therefore no longer an issue to the invading force. |
| 15:35.47 | AGrayCat | Naval force? |
| 15:36.05 | AdmiralPanda | navy in space is still navy |
| 15:37.00 | AGrayCat | Calling it a navy would be stupid. |
| 15:37.24 | AdmiralPanda | Except that is A: the terminology used today, and B: the most suitable terminology available |
| 15:37.40 | AGrayCat | might be suitable |
| 15:37.46 | AGrayCat | but makes no sense |
| 15:37.49 | AGrayCat | Navy is a term for water warfare. |
| 15:37.51 | AdmiralPanda | after all, they operate out of atmosphere and therefore cannot be called an air force, and are not armed personnel and are not army |
| 15:37.59 | AGrayCat | Aerospace Corps. |
| 15:38.00 | AGrayCat | Done. |
| 15:38.16 | AdmiralPanda | anyway, let's stop being argumentative and return to the discussion of infantry |
| 15:38.33 | AdmiralPanda | it would be foolish to deploy infantry while space power is still in play, which is why said opposing space power is removed first |
| 15:38.57 | AGrayCat | correct. |
| 15:39.04 | AGrayCat | Which is why hidden bunkers would be in play. |
| 15:39.13 | AGrayCat | Disguised bases. |
| 15:39.21 | AdmiralPanda | since said space power being removed from the battle is conditional to infantry being deployed, the infantry is deployed without threat of orbital bombardment |
| 15:39.47 | AGrayCat | indeed. |
| 15:39.50 | AdmiralPanda | as such, your argument that infantry is invalid in the modern battlefield because of orbital fire doesn't carry weight |
| 15:39.58 | AGrayCat | It does. |
| 15:40.02 | AGrayCat | you said my point. |
| 15:40.14 | AdmiralPanda | and you are clearly completely ignoring mine |
| 15:40.15 | AGrayCat | Space power needs to be removed before infantry is relevant. |
| 15:40.45 | AdmiralPanda | which doesn't make infantry irrelevant, only that there are stages to invasion |
| 15:41.42 | AdmiralPanda | orbital fire does not factor into the infantry battlefield as the orbital fire being removed is a conditional factor to there being an infantry battlefield in the first place |
| 15:43.48 | AdmiralPanda | to return to the original point, the only thing that would make infantry irrelevant is the objective of take and hold becoming irrelevant |
| 15:44.53 | AdmiralPanda | which, depending on the faction in question, it might not be relevant (for example if your faction is simply genocidal and wants to see the world and everything on it burn), in which case they would not employ infantry |
| 15:45.22 | AdmiralPanda | however, many factions for a variety of reasons find it essential to be able to take and hold, and thus employ infantry |
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| 15:47.32 | AdmiralPanda | hi te |
| 15:47.33 | AdmiralPanda | tek* |
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| 16:17.37 | AdmiralPanda | so my friend invented a new way to play SC2 Archon Mode: he plays while the other guy does macro and designated shit-talker |
| 16:18.34 | AdmiralPanda | since his friend is just sitting in base managing resources he has plenty of time to just constantly shittalk |
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| 16:56.37 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 17:06.08 | Technobliterator | test |
| 17:06.15 | AdmiralPanda | you fehl |
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| 17:30.33 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:30.34 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 17:31.14 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 17:32.07 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 17:44.15 | AGrayCat | AdmiralPanda: Which empire is your main empire? |
| 17:44.28 | AdmiralPanda | the Fordanta |
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| 17:46.51 | AGrayCat | fordan empire? |
| 17:47.21 | AdmiralPanda | yes |
| 17:47.31 | AGrayCat | You are Spriggs? |
| 17:49.16 | AdmiralPanda | indeed, an old name with an irrelevant origin |
| 17:50.04 | AGrayCat | How would they fair in a war with the Chostvan Soyuz? |
| 17:52.23 | AdmiralPanda | Depends on their technology level. |
| 17:52.56 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 17:53.00 | AGrayCat | You don't know? |
| 17:53.30 | AdmiralPanda | I barely pay attention to what goes on on the wiki. |
| 17:54.31 | Ghelae | The Soyuz's page doesn't have much information about its military. |
| 17:54.39 | AdmiralPanda | Taking a brief look, no idea, don't really care because they're on different levels of power. |
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| 17:55.48 | Imperios | Hi |
| 17:55.55 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:56.00 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: Hm, what do you think would be the best civ for a domination victory on Deity? |
| 17:56.07 | AdmiralPanda | Russia |
| 17:56.09 | Imperios | In Civ V, naturally |
| 17:56.19 | Imperios | Russia? |
| 17:56.24 | AdmiralPanda | mhm, hammersOP |
| 17:58.44 | Imperios | Will try |
| 17:59.13 | AdmiralPanda | AGrayCat: While again I don't really care about power comparisons, suffice it to say the Fordanta are still regarded as one of the not to be fucked with military powers in Andromeda, despite sharing borders with multiple factions that are arguably stronger. |
| 18:00.46 | AGrayCat | poland is best. |
| 18:00.52 | AGrayCat | poland is best for everything. |
| 18:01.00 | AdmiralPanda | arguable, especially in vanilla |
| 18:01.01 | AGrayCat | you can pretty much do anything |
| 18:01.12 | AdmiralPanda | the raw hammers you get out of Russia make them incredibly potent for domination victory |
| 18:01.15 | AGrayCat | ghelae |
| 18:01.16 | AGrayCat | shhh |
| 18:01.22 | AGrayCat | don't tell them that we don't have an army |
| 18:01.47 | AdmiralPanda | poland is definately tier 1, and very versatile yes, but the question was specific to domination and Russia definately pulls out on top for pure domination |
| 18:01.57 | AGrayCat | Mongolia then. |
| 18:02.01 | AGrayCat | or Arabia. |
| 18:02.06 | AGrayCat | Rush Camel Archers or Keshiks. |
| 18:02.08 | AGrayCat | You win. |
| 18:02.16 | AdmiralPanda | again arguable on SP deity |
| 18:02.29 | AdmiralPanda | Russia can counter all of those just by burying them in hammers |
| 18:02.35 | AGrayCat | But on MP eh? |
| 18:02.38 | AdmiralPanda | and Russia doesn't just have one timing, you can exploit all fie |
| 18:02.44 | AdmiralPanda | in MP Russia is even stronger |
| 18:03.03 | AdmiralPanda | because people know timings and know what to expect, you don't really win domination with a unique unit timing unless you have something else behind it |
| 18:04.55 | AdmiralPanda | Russia can execute timings better anyway because double strategic except oil, in which case Arabia says double tanks but that has nothing to do with camel archers |
| 18:06.05 | AdmiralPanda | the civs you're suggesting are good don't get me wrong, but Russia is better |
| 18:07.08 | Imperios | What about AI Civ though |
| 18:07.10 | Imperios | As I said, Deity |
| 18:07.30 | AdmiralPanda | I knew that when I said Russia |
| 18:09.29 | AdmiralPanda | the thing with deity is you need to get ahead; the AI isn't better it just cheats, once you get into the lead you've basically already won |
| 18:13.16 | Imperios | The largest advantage they have is in tech as far as I understand |
| 18:13.46 | AdmiralPanda | they start with all basic research, a settler and extra units, as well as increased base happiness and gold income |
| 18:14.48 | AdmiralPanda | which is why personally I prefer to play something like Babylon or Maya in SP, you can get ahead in tech pretty quickly |
| 18:15.47 | AGrayCat | i go poland |
| 18:15.54 | AGrayCat | fill in entire liberty tree |
| 18:15.59 | AGrayCat | get great scientist |
| 18:16.02 | AGrayCat | plop it down |
| 18:16.34 | AdmiralPanda | liberty maya sees your bottles and raises you twice as many bottles :P |
| 18:17.26 | AdmiralPanda | and yes I'm aware that poland is very versatile because of their ub, but in a contest of early bottles maya and babylon win |
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| 18:19.47 | AdmiralPanda | poland is a top tier civ, I just prefer to have a clear strategy going into the game and a civ that supports that directly |
| 18:20.02 | AdmiralPanda | plus Poland can sometimes throw off your rationalism timing |
| 18:20.41 | Imperios | I should start tall in Deity, right? |
| 18:20.51 | Imperios | To improve with science |
| 18:22.05 | Imperios | I am just not sure whether should I start with Tradition or Liberty |
| 18:22.17 | AGrayCat | why do yer wanna know pal? |
| 18:23.10 | Imperios | Screw it, LIBERTY PRIME IS ONLINE |
| 18:23.26 | AdmiralPanda | well you're going domination so you might as well |
| 18:23.56 | Xho | CRIMEA PRIME |
| 18:24.02 | Xho | SEVASTOPOL WILL BE LIBERATED |
| 18:24.10 | AdmiralPanda | liberty russia can get pretty scary |
| 18:24.15 | Xho | SLAVA UKRAINI |
| 18:24.45 | Imperios | GEROYAM SLAVA |
| 18:24.50 | Xho | Voiced by Vitali Klitschko of course |
| 18:24.56 | AdmiralPanda | RANDOM RUSSIAN |
| 18:25.15 | AGrayCat | ooo Xho is talking |
| 18:25.57 | Imperios | That's not Russian, that's Ukrainian |
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| 18:26.05 | Imperios | Though Ukrainian would be "Heroyam slava" |
| 18:26.14 | Imperios | But it's written the same in both |
| 18:26.47 | AdmiralPanda | A) I don't speak either so of course I wouldn't know, and B) that was the joke |
| 18:28.54 | Imperios | I got that |
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| 18:35.31 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 18:35.33 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 18:46.01 | Imperios | FUCK |
| 18:46.02 | Imperios | ATILLA |
| 18:46.46 | AdmiralPanda | BAHAHAHA |
| 18:46.51 | AdmiralPanda | ARMY UP BOY |
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| 18:50.24 | AdmiralPanda | in all seriousness though once civil service tech hits for atilla you're fine |
| 18:51.08 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 18:58.55 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 19:11.48 | Imperios | So the Huns have expanded and just invited me to join in their war against Carthage, which stands right between our lands |
| 19:11.57 | Imperios | Question is, whether should I protect them or help them |
| 19:12.12 | Imperios | protect Carthage and help the Huns later on, that's it |
| 19:14.07 | AGrayCat | I've got a game theory for Spore. The Grox are Humans. |
| 19:14.42 | AGrayCat | just thought of it |
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| 19:15.53 | TekDroid | Did anyone else have trouble logging on earlier? |
| 19:15.55 | AdmiralPanda | Imperios: Was away at the time, basically you want the Huns stopped cold |
| 19:16.12 | Imperios | So protect Carthage and slow down their attack |
| 19:16.12 | AGrayCat | TekDroid. I did. |
| 19:16.15 | Imperios | Fair point |
| 19:16.19 | AGrayCat | It was a DDoS attack TekDroid |
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| 19:16.26 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 19:16.30 | Ghelae | AGrayCat: Although the old forum threads are no longer useable, you can see them in their page histories, and this is relevant to your suggestion: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Grox_Theories?oldid=597330 |
| 19:27.01 | AGrayCat | hm |
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| 19:27.53 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 19:29.39 | AGrayCat | hai |
| 19:30.17 | AGrayCat | Where is Externalisation? |
| 19:30.26 | Hachiman | He's on and off |
| 19:30.28 | Hachiman | Mostly off |
| 19:31.28 | AdmiralPanda | haihachi |
| 19:32.12 | AGrayCat | hah |
| 19:32.17 | AGrayCat | So |
| 19:32.24 | AGrayCat | I'm extending the Chostvan Soyuz page. |
| 19:32.49 | AGrayCat | And if anyone wants to let their DigitalVision channels broadcast in the chostvan soyuz |
| 19:32.54 | AGrayCat | feel free to add them |
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| 19:54.56 | drom | AGrayCat: Where did you get that info about the "DDoS attack"? |
| 19:55.09 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 19:55.25 | Wormy_ | I can tell Space Engineers will take up the whole weekend! |
| 19:56.23 | drom | Wormy_: Oh? |
| 19:57.20 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Is it just me or are the Viera from the Ivalice setting just the most adorable thing |
| 19:58.27 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy_: Do you mean Space Engineers or Space Engine? |
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| 19:59.44 | drom | AdmiralPanda: The former, I can see him playing it on Steam |
| 20:00.04 | AGrayCat | It was on earlier drom |
| 20:00.56 | drom | He is still playing it, at least what Steam tells me. |
| 20:02.44 | Technobliterator | it is pretty adorable |
| 20:02.49 | AdmiralPanda | I must track him down, invade his game Dark Souls style, and criticise his lack of appropriate weaponry |
| 20:03.02 | drom | "4731 files failed to validate and will be reacquired" |
| 20:03.17 | drom | -> 1.1 GB worth of missing content |
| 20:03.19 | drom | fucking |
| 20:04.09 | drom | Back to ripping of some Vaygr designs to slap on my Sporewikiverse-knockoff mod for HW |
| 20:05.47 | Hachiman | Shame I did not make the Ta or the Lagosi Viera-style rabbitfolk in either universe hur |
| 20:06.03 | drom | AdmiralPanda: wormy told me on Steam that he is having trouble with the internet connectivity, so the his internet will kill you off before you can do any harm |
| 20:07.31 | Technobliterator | Ivalice in general is just amazing |
| 20:08.08 | Xho | So has there been any updates on the War of Ages reboot since I last took a look at it |
| 20:08.26 | drom | ... nope |
| 20:08.49 | Xho | It's that time of the year I think |
| 20:09.08 | Xho | Everything starts going pear shaped and my anger meter hits critical level |
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| 20:09.17 | drom | Charles_Murray TekDroid: I cannot settle down on which actual style my NS ships should base on. |
| 20:10.23 | drom | To take it short, I'd like have some advice or suggestions on source of inspiration and design for my Nomatari Sovereignty space vessels. |
| 20:10.48 | drom | Preferably: sharp, angular and flat |
| 20:13.41 | Ghelae | Xho: Liquid got a bit carried with with trying to make the Universe 66501 map neater on Titanpad a few days ago. I believe that's the only major change recently. I'll be able to work on Getting out of Girdo tomorrow; I don't know about anybody else's plans. |
| 20:14.18 | Xho | Dunno whether it's really worth having a Universe 66501 map |
| 20:16.01 | Ghelae | Probably not. But there currently is one. |
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| 20:22.40 | AGrayCat | My opinion? |
| 20:23.15 | AGrayCat | I couldn't care less about what others are doing. |
| 20:24.09 | Hachiman | Then you're a dick, no offence |
| 20:24.18 | Hachiman | Actually no, redact no offence |
| 20:25.02 | Hachiman | You do not just participate in an environment based around collaboration with other people and then just state that you do not give a shit about community projects |
| 20:25.13 | Hachiman | Because that is being an asshole |
| 20:25.38 | Hachiman | I suggest you stop being an egotistical whiny fuckwit or get out |
| 20:27.08 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 20:27.37 | AGrayCat | i'm sorry pal |
| 20:29.18 | AdmiralPanda | y'know, if it weren't for Monty Python I'd find the idea of an attack wabbit ridiculous |
| 20:29.59 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:30.22 | Hachiman | Monty Python is the reason why I find the idea of attack rabbits ridiculous |
| 20:30.44 | AGrayCat | i don't know how you interpreted that as me not caring about community collaborations |
| 20:30.45 | AdmiralPanda | Monty Python is clear evidence of why it would work though |
| 20:32.06 | Hachiman | AGrayCat: "My opinion? I couldn't care less about what others are doing." This can be taken as a pretty solid interpretation of you not caring about community projects, or if you do care about community projects, then it just serves as evidence of you being an asswipe |
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| 20:40.08 | AdmiralPanda | hi you |
| 20:40.11 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 20:40.43 | Wormy_ | I was wondering what the best way is to charge small ships? Docking to the station with connectors, or building a reactor? I think the batteries died |
| 20:41.28 | AGrayCat | Really Hachi? |
| 20:42.09 | AdmiralPanda | a backup reactor is always helpful, mind if I ask what function the ship performs? |
| 20:43.05 | Wormy_ | Not sure, one is a "large" red ship, and one is a "blue small" |
| 20:45.37 | AdmiralPanda | ok so new question: are the blocks two metres cubed or way way smaller than that? |
| 20:46.05 | AGrayCat | "My opinion? I couldn't care less about what others are doing." This can be taken as a pretty solid interpretation of you not caring about community projects, or if you do care about community projects, then it just serves as evidence of you being an asswipe |
| 20:46.09 | AGrayCat | Really Hachi? |
| 20:46.28 | Wormy_ | Look to be two metres cubed (I'm on the Base start 1 option) |
| 20:47.10 | Hachiman | Yes really |
| 20:47.14 | Ghelae | AGrayCat: You shouldn't be surprised that somebody took "I couldn't care less about what others are doing" and associated "what others are doing" with "community projects". |
| 20:47.29 | AdmiralPanda | ok so in space engineers terms, large and small ships are two different construction scales, so you're talking about a large ship |
| 20:47.32 | AdmiralPanda | with that cleared up, |
| 20:47.36 | Hachiman | Why would I say that as a joke; I think you're an asshole because you act like an asshole |
| 20:48.34 | AdmiralPanda | I'm fairly sure the ship has reactors, you might have accidentally shut them off by hitting "Y" while in the cockpit, |
| 20:48.44 | Wormy_ | Ah, I see! |
| 20:48.57 | AdmiralPanda | otherwise reactors are quite handy yes |
| 20:49.41 | AGrayCat | So, essentially, you want me to quit? |
| 20:49.56 | AdmiralPanda | for small ships a battery can work just fine as a primary power source provided you have a nearby recharge point, but large ships burn so much power that you're either looking at massive banks of batteries or just having reactors |
| 20:49.56 | Hachiman | No; I want you to mind your manners |
| 20:51.17 | Wormy_ | One problem I'm having now though is that I can no longer enter the ships (died inside and respawned outside) |
| 20:51.36 | Wormy_ | to access to the cockpit |
| 20:52.09 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0a/ZhulultuEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20151127205135 So I made an emblem for the Zhulultu |
| 20:52.18 | AGrayCat | You interpreted it wrong, Hachiman. |
| 20:52.45 | Wormy_ | If you have a comment that is deemed negative or unhelpful by the community, then they will point it out |
| 20:53.11 | AdmiralPanda | I don't use the prebuilt worlds so I don't know the layout of the ship, but if you look around you should be able to find either a door or at least an external control panel somewhere |
| 20:53.20 | AdmiralPanda | if that doesn't work there's always B&E :P |
| 20:54.15 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 20:55.27 | AdmiralPanda | I know I looked over the blue starter ship once, I'm fairly sure it has blast doors at the front and I think there's an access door at the back |
| 20:56.13 | AdmiralPanda | but as I said I never used those worlds so I don't really know the ships in-depth, everything I use is custom made |
| 20:58.06 | Imperios | Xho: Satan levels are to the max |
| 20:58.18 | Xho | 5 pointed pentagram? Nah, 10 pointed |
| 20:58.24 | Imperios | DOUBLE THE SATAN |
| 20:58.39 | Xho | Angazhar - IN INFERNO, SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOU |
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| 20:59.57 | Xho | Quite pleased with how that digital layer look came out |
| 21:00.25 | AGrayCat | Hachiman: What do you want me to do? |
| 21:00.48 | Imperios | Xho: Speaking of demons |
| 21:00.49 | Hachiman | Just think about what you say before you say it, because stuff like what you said can be interpreted differently |
| 21:00.58 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 21:01.06 | AGrayCat | sorry then |
| 21:01.15 | Imperios | I wonder how rap mixed with your kind of progressive metal-thing would sound |
| 21:01.24 | Hachiman | You mean nu metal |
| 21:01.27 | Xho | NAH |
| 21:01.28 | Xho | NAH M8 |
| 21:01.38 | Wormy_ | I might try a game in creative mode |
| 21:01.46 | Hachiman | Nu metal is awful |
| 21:01.50 | Xho | I want to get some synths and effects and whatnot |
| 21:01.54 | Wormy_ | I'm struggling a bit to find a method of survival |
| 21:02.02 | Xho | Considering it's Black Friday I might actually check |
| 21:02.39 | Xho | Well shit 50% off |
| 21:03.37 | Xho | http://i.imgur.com/a6PhKIL.png Not sure if this is accurate but I fit 5/8 of the criteria |
| 21:04.25 | Hachiman | I fit 1/8 |
| 21:04.35 | Hachiman | Actually 2/8 |
| 21:05.53 | Imperios | I just wonder |
| 21:06.05 | Imperios | Haven't heard rap mixed with high quality music |
| 21:06.07 | Xho | There is a band like that |
| 21:06.10 | Xho | Hacktivist |
| 21:06.14 | AdmiralPanda | 5/8 |
| 21:06.17 | Xho | Not my cup of tea but it exists |
| 21:06.22 | Imperios | And rap has good energy and emotion |
| 21:06.29 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP1DUANKI7M My favourite rap song |
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| 21:07.20 | Hachiman | inb4 Jo spams you with links to other iconic, revolutionary, or experimental rap artists |
| 21:07.33 | Xho | Technobliterator: ^ Make this real |
| 21:12.14 | drom | AdmiralPanda: How does one turn their singleplayer session to friends-only multiplayer? |
| 21:12.20 | drom | In Space Engineers |
| 21:13.29 | AdmiralPanda | exit the game, then when you go to load it you can change its settings |
| 21:13.37 | AdmiralPanda | such settings including its multiplayer status |
| 21:14.16 | AdmiralPanda | just on the off chance, the setting you want is "friends," as "private" means just you |
| 21:14.45 | AdmiralPanda | I don't know why there's a private online option but who knows |
| 21:15.38 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 21:15.48 | PurpleBoraillian | hey |
| 21:17.22 | Technobliterator | I'm not that cruel |
| 21:19.35 | Wormy_ | Set it to "friends" |
| 21:21.00 | Wormy_ | Do I need to give drom some kind of name for my game or can he find it through us being steam boddies? |
| 21:21.08 | Wormy_ | *buddies |
| 21:22.13 | AdmiralPanda | you can invite him directly through steam |
| 21:22.27 | PurpleBoraillian | AGreyCat: I've responded |
| 21:22.29 | AdmiralPanda | doesn't like to work the other way around for some reason |
| 21:24.37 | Tek0516 | Damnit guys, now I feel like doing some space engineering. :P |
| 21:24.45 | drom | AdmiralPanda Wormy_: I can also join directly through "Join Game" |
| 21:25.05 | AdmiralPanda | Tek0516: I share your pain :P |
| 21:25.11 | Hachiman | I wonder if whip swords can work legitimately in real life, in regards to efficiency |
| 21:25.13 | AdmiralPanda | drom: you can, it just doesn't always like it when you try |
| 21:25.15 | Hachiman | And practicality |
| 21:25.24 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: as in sword that segments into whip? |
| 21:25.31 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 21:25.39 | Tek0516 | I'm actually done class now so I probably will play some SE. :P |
| 21:25.40 | AdmiralPanda | could work as a whip, in sword form it would be terrible |
| 21:25.59 | AdmiralPanda | heh we should see if we can play without too much lag |
| 21:26.19 | Tek0516 | lol |
| 21:26.57 | Wormy_ | Thanks for your help Panda |
| 21:27.19 | AGrayCat | Eh PurpleBoraillian |
| 21:27.20 | AGrayCat | ? |
| 21:28.02 | AdmiralPanda | np |
| 21:28.23 | PurpleBoraillian | On your transmission to the Idosian Republic |
| 21:28.44 | AdmiralPanda | btw, if you ever see a big red antenna signature identifying itself as "Argentavis" let me know |
| 21:29.02 | AdmiralPanda | laughably poorly designed NPC pirate ship, really easy to exploit weakness |
| 21:29.42 | Tek0516 | If you guys are doing MP maybe I'll join in. :P Otherwise I'll probably be working on my survival skills, or testing planets. |
| 21:30.08 | AGrayCat | mhm |
| 21:30.15 | AGrayCat | ok purple |
| 21:30.19 | AGrayCat | I'll reply soon. |
| 21:30.23 | drom | Wormy b ded |
| 21:30.27 | AGrayCat | Right now I'm reading a collaboration thingie. |
| 21:30.35 | PurpleBoraillian | sure |
| 21:30.48 | drom | Tek0516: Wormy_'s server died |
| 21:31.14 | drom | So, you are my only hope now! |
| 21:31.15 | Tek0516 | Yeah, I saw him restart SE |
| 21:31.42 | AdmiralPanda | I'm on my own bcus that |
| 21:31.43 | Tek0516 | Should we do an MP game? :P |
| 21:31.51 | AdmiralPanda | but I'd be down for MP |
| 21:32.39 | Tek0516 | I'm hooked up to my University's network so I hopefully shouldn't DC. XD |
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| 21:34.26 | Wormy_ | Sure will |
| 21:34.59 | drom | Admiral Wormy_ Tek0516: We could just head off to a dedicated server and mind our own business there |
| 21:35.10 | drom | AdmiralPanda* |
| 21:35.42 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
| 21:36.06 | Tek0516 | As in just us or join someone's? |
| 21:36.14 | Wormy_ | I have a friend who hosts his own sever in rl |
| 21:36.20 | Wormy_ | He wants me to join |
| 21:36.30 | Wormy_ | Perhaps I could ask him to let us all on? |
| 21:37.14 | Tek0516 | Sure. |
| 21:37.57 | drom | Sure thing! |
| 21:38.39 | AdmiralPanda | I will move to my gaming computer presently |
| 21:39.28 | Tek0516 | I use a high-end laptop hooked up to Ethernet and a fairly large external fan. :P |
| 21:39.43 | AGrayCat | eh? Could someone explain what is being discussed? |
| 21:39.49 | AGrayCat | *please |
| 21:39.51 | AdmiralPanda | playing Space Engineers |
| 21:40.29 | Hachiman | I wonder if Mongols used crossbows |
| 21:40.43 | Hachiman | I mean I doubt it since archers are far more accurate than crossbowmen if I recall realistically |
| 21:41.12 | drom | Tek0516: Used one until its battery and GPU fried into sillicon crisp |
| 21:41.48 | Tek0516 | Yeah, I've overheated this before and cane fairly close last time I played SE |
| 21:42.43 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 21:42.47 | AGrayCat | I like the sound of the game. |
| 21:42.50 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: the accuracy comes more from the fact that you have to do a metric fuckton of training to be field-proficient with a bow |
| 21:42.53 | AGrayCat | How long is the sale on for? |
| 21:43.36 | AdmiralPanda | the more likely reasons the mongols never used crossbows was that for cavalry-capable weapons, they had better bows than crossbows |
| 21:43.43 | Tek0516 | Yeah, the main advantage of crossbows was the comparative lack of training requires |
| 21:44.10 | Hachiman | I suppose that is fair enough |
| 21:44.16 | AdmiralPanda | it's rather hard to reload most varieties of crossbow to start with, let alone on horseback |
| 21:44.36 | Tek0516 | Yes, I suspect that played a part |
| 21:44.37 | AdmiralPanda | so you're basically talking a very low draw-weight crossbow, when you could instead be using a very high draw weight shortbow |
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| 21:45.13 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Are we joining that game or should we set one up? |
| 21:45.39 | Wormy_ | Oh sorry, I don't have any way to communicate with my friend right now. |
| 21:45.51 | Wormy_ | I think we should set up a new one |
| 21:46.04 | AGrayCat | Who is AKtheKing |
| 21:46.10 | Hachiman | Another user |
| 21:46.30 | AKtheKing | Hello haha |
| 21:47.16 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.21 | Hachiman | At some point I need to find the opportunity to make use of repeater crossbows |
| 21:47.45 | Tek0516 | Wormy_ AdmiralPanda Drom: Shall we do planets or space, and creative or survival? |
| 21:48.21 | AdmiralPanda | personal preference? survival, asteroid start, infinite space |
| 21:48.33 | Wormy_ | I want the option to see planets |
| 21:48.41 | Wormy_ | Don't mind if creative or survival |
| 21:48.42 | drom | I'd love me some creative |
| 21:49.17 | Wormy_ | There is a "Star System" option I think |
| 21:49.24 | Hachiman | Personal preference? No Items, Fox only, Final Destination |
| 21:49.24 | Wormy_ | Of course I don't really mind |
| 21:49.59 | AdmiralPanda | my primary concern is of course planets blowing up peoples' computers, but we can give planets a try |
| 21:50.33 | Tek0516 | I can go to the Asteroids start or something and drop a planet in first. |
| 21:50.45 | Wormy_ | Mine should be okay, it's fairly up to date, though my internet can struggle with online graphics |
| 21:51.00 | drom | Tek0516: I'll be coming soonish, just gotta need to upload two pictures |
| 21:51.28 | Wormy_ | Tek: Whatever works best |
| 21:52.00 | Tek0516 | Alright, let me set it up |
| 21:52.31 | Imperios | Hachiman: I thought of using repeater crossbows for Alhassal |
| 21:52.53 | Imperios | Would be useful when arming a large army |
| 21:52.57 | Imperios | As for Mongols using crossbows |
| 21:53.09 | Imperios | You see, the main advantage of the crossbow over the bow is that it is easier to train |
| 21:53.32 | Imperios | The bow requires years of training, with the crossbow you just have to pull the trigger |
| 21:53.48 | Hachiman | Zazane, and by extension the Tuungar, would probably not be known for tolerating easy training disciplines in their societies hur |
| 21:53.59 | Imperios | But since Mongols already were taught archery since childhood, they had no need for such things |
| 21:54.06 | Imperios | Am I right, Panda? |
| 21:55.13 | AdmiralPanda | as said above, the primary reason the bow was favoured over the crossbow was that you could use a more powerful bow from horseback (most likely) |
| 21:55.24 | Wormy_ | I'm "wormulonempire" on Steam |
| 21:55.36 | AdmiralPanda | there aren't really precedents of factions deliberately choosing harder to use weaponry for that reason |
| 21:55.43 | Imperios | That too |
| 21:56.14 | Imperios | I do not think crossbows can be used from horseback at all |
| 21:56.27 | Hachiman | The idea of using a crossbow from horseback sounds rather impractical |
| 21:56.29 | Imperios | The reloading mechanism was quite heavy wasn't it? |
| 21:56.52 | AdmiralPanda | ddepends on the weight and type, a hand or lever draw could probably be used from horesback but not much more |
| 21:57.05 | Imperios | These were pretty weak though |
| 21:57.22 | drom | Inspiration taken from Homeworld http://i.imgur.com/PPbfbtX.png http://i.imgur.com/9Oz5rlT.png |
| 21:57.33 | Imperios | "Mounted crossbowmen" was actually a meme in the Runet |
| 21:57.44 | Imperios | Something you'd only see in fantasy |
| 21:58.23 | Hachiman | hur |
| 21:58.43 | Tek0516 | Okay, server almost ready |
| 21:59.10 | Imperios | I wonder what sort of ranged weaponry Mannazians use though |
| 21:59.15 | Imperios | If they use any at all that is |
| 21:59.21 | Hachiman | Of course they use ranged weaponry |
| 21:59.27 | Hachiman | I am just unsure of what they would use |
| 21:59.34 | Hachiman | Guns are a no-no for sure |
| 21:59.36 | AdmiralPanda | repeating slingshots that fire hornet nests |
| 21:59.48 | Hachiman | Jesus I remember those |
| 22:00.22 | Imperios | The most shooty Germanic people I can think of |
| 22:00.24 | Imperios | Are, well |
| 22:00.25 | Imperios | Brits |
| 22:00.31 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:00.43 | Imperios | So longbows could be a thing |
| 22:01.04 | AdmiralPanda | wait what? I just pulled that off the top of my head as a joke |
| 22:01.18 | Hachiman | Yeah I imagine longbowmen would be a popular Mannazian thing |
| 22:01.23 | drom | I remember reading about when defeated besiegers used their trebuchets to sling dead bodies, infected with tons of dieases and shit, over the walls of fortresses before retreating. Terrorizng and infecting the residents and garrsioned infantry at the same time. |
| 22:01.23 | Wormy_ | downloadiung |
| 22:01.33 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (65b7d6b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.183.214.180) |
| 22:01.43 | AdmiralPanda | laptop was lagging so swapped over |
| 22:02.13 | Hachiman | I remember at least one army slingshotted nests of insects and such at their enemy] |
| 22:02.31 | Imperios | biological warfare |
| 22:02.39 | Imperios | So that gives the Empire of Men three main strategies |
| 22:02.45 | Hachiman | I also remember the slingshotting corpses thing |
| 22:03.01 | Hachiman | Or just launching them rather than slingshotting |
| 22:03.29 | Imperios | "A small group of elite armoured swordsmen come charging at you while a few others stay behind and shoot from longbows" |
| 22:03.31 | AdmiralPanda | yeah, firing diseased/dismembered/both corpses over the walls of castles to introduce disease |
| 22:03.53 | AdmiralPanda | also, just buying space shinies while I wait for Tek to finish |
| 22:03.57 | Imperios | "Come with lots of ships while small groups of musketmen cry havoc" |
| 22:04.07 | Tek0516 | AdmiralPanda: I sent an invite. >.> |
| 22:04.21 | Imperios | "Bring lots of crossbowmen to shoot everything that moves while elephants stomp everything that doesn't" |
| 22:04.21 | Wormy_ | I timed out :( |
| 22:04.24 | AdmiralPanda | huh, I didn't get it |
| 22:04.31 | AdmiralPanda | anyway I'll finish buying shinies then I'll be right there |
| 22:04.48 | Hachiman | Mannazians also use wolfdogs and such to flank and disperse enemies while engaged |
| 22:04.58 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 22:05.00 | Hachiman | And attack enemy cavalry |
| 22:06.40 | AGrayCat | just bought space engineers |
| 22:07.11 | AdmiralPanda | space shinies have been purchased |
| 22:08.01 | Imperios | Alhassal would probably use mounted archers more |
| 22:08.48 | Hachiman | I dunno, Alhassal seems like the sort to use specialist crossbowmen ground squads |
| 22:09.07 | AdmiralPanda | and I crashed, reloading |
| 22:09.49 | Hachiman | I dunno why but I also envision Alhassan possessing their own equivalent of ninja |
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| 22:10.36 | Wormy_ | crashed |
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| 22:10.43 | Hachiman | Hi Aeo |
| 22:10.48 | Aeo | hi |
| 22:12.02 | Hachiman | Long time no see |
| 22:12.04 | Imperios | Cavalry would probably be drawn from the nomads, so they'd be more support |
| 22:12.05 | Wormy_ | bbl dinner |
| 22:12.08 | Imperios | Ave Aeo |
| 22:12.39 | Hachiman | The idea of Alhassan ninja just doesnot sound that far out to me |
| 22:12.43 | Aeo | Indeed. |
| 22:13.38 | Imperios | Assassins, definitely |
| 22:13.46 | Imperios | They'd be more like the hashashin though |
| 22:14.06 | Hachiman | So like the Assassins from AC? |
| 22:14.07 | AdmiralPanda | so assassin |
| 22:14.10 | AdmiralPanda | s* |
| 22:15.37 | Imperios | These guys yes |
| 22:15.42 | Imperios | Their real prototypes at least |
| 22:16.01 | Imperios | While the idea of an Alhassan Illuminati expy is certainly compelling, it would not fit into the story |
| 22:16.12 | Hachiman | inb4 Imp's next Fantasyverse character is an Alhassan assassin called Assassin-Brother Ala'kbar Burstfire |
| 22:17.03 | Hachiman | Who is a sneaky beaky bomberman |
| 22:27.25 | Imperios | Idid plan to make an Alhassan alchemist who makes explosives, among other things |
| 22:29.45 | Hachiman | He had better have an |
| 22:29.49 | Hachiman | Explosive personality |
| 22:30.00 | Xho | ALLAHU AKBAAAAR |
| 22:30.27 | AGrayCat | well |
| 22:30.33 | AGrayCat | I'm staying for a while longer |
| 22:30.38 | AGrayCat | a long while longer |
| 22:30.44 | AGrayCat | Hachi, sorry about earlier :( |
| 22:30.53 | Hachiman | It's fine, at least you apologized |
| 22:31.06 | Xho | Ugh well that was £302 gone in a flash |
| 22:31.21 | Hachiman | Xho: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12274336_977822042280768_132267321658119306_n.jpg?oh=6f5139b9a9a076a0ae8a5427f632413f&oe=56F8B775 |
| 22:31.34 | Xho | "absence of god" |
| 22:31.55 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11232020_178450295837111_7499863145747066950_n.jpg?oh=8e169bf16539788c3efbe64bf411b1bd&oe=56F8D311 |
| 22:32.13 | Xho | oh god |
| 22:32.29 | AGrayCat | Any ideas for collaborations? |
| 22:32.43 | Hachiman | Not at the moment |
| 22:34.20 | Imperios | AGrayCat: Try socialising with the noobs |
| 22:34.34 | Imperios | You ain't going nowhere if you try to work with older users like Hachi or Xho |
| 22:34.53 | AGrayCat | Hmm |
| 22:34.56 | Imperios | Because A: We old users are all pretentious elitists who keep mostly to themselves |
| 22:35.03 | Hachiman | Yep |
| 22:35.07 | Xho | Well not really |
| 22:35.11 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 22:35.14 | Hachiman | Yeah really |
| 22:35.15 | Xho | Actually yeah sort of |
| 22:35.16 | AGrayCat | Any noobs around? |
| 22:35.22 | Hachiman | Try Imp |
| 22:35.23 | Imperios | And B: We've burnt out and no longer work that much on fiction |
| 22:36.31 | AGrayCat | Any real new peopel anyone knows of? |
| 22:36.33 | AGrayCat | *people |
| 22:36.36 | AGrayCat | eg: not imperios |
| 22:36.47 | Hachiman | But Imperios is a noob |
| 22:36.52 | Xho | such noob |
| 22:36.53 | Xho | lel |
| 22:36.59 | Imperios | Well |
| 22:36.59 | Imperios | Pretty much yes |
| 22:37.01 | Imperios | I'm a noob |
| 22:37.03 | Imperios | Just an old one |
| 22:37.05 | Hachiman | yeh |
| 22:37.08 | Xho | Eldest Noob |
| 22:37.15 | Hachiman | You're Russian so you are automatically a noob at everything |
| 22:37.20 | Xho | Except Dota |
| 22:37.28 | Imperios | But doesn't my Koreanness negate the Russianness |
| 22:37.32 | Imperios | In that scenario |
| 22:37.34 | Hachiman | Kinda true |
| 22:38.05 | AGrayCat | Is PurpleBoraillian a new person? |
| 22:38.09 | Xho | Succeed at SporeWiki: Be mixed race |
| 22:38.16 | Xho | Hey just an observation |
| 22:38.40 | Hachiman | Funny because you are Anglo-Indian |
| 22:38.58 | Imperios | Well |
| 22:39.01 | Xho | We don't belong anywhere |
| 22:39.09 | Imperios | The Fictionverse was founded by two mixed race people |
| 22:39.17 | Xho | The Indians hate us because we're too English. the English hate us because we're too Indian |
| 22:39.21 | Hachiman | u belong in a garbage can |
| 22:39.28 | Imperios | Xho: I know that feel bro |
| 22:39.32 | Xho | The Anglo-Indians hate the Anglo-Indians because Anglo-Indians are a weird bunch of people |
| 22:39.45 | Hachiman | It's the British blood |
| 22:39.47 | Imperios | When I speak fast Russians say I sound Asian |
| 22:39.50 | Hachiman | Brits hate other Brits |
| 22:39.54 | Imperios | And Koreans say I sound Russian |
| 22:40.12 | AGrayCat | just found this |
| 22:40.19 | AGrayCat | 'one race got exterminated just for petting everybody'. What happened? |
| 22:40.25 | Xho | top kek |
| 22:40.28 | Hachiman | Irskaad was an idiot |
| 22:40.43 | Imperios | I beg to differ |
| 22:40.45 | Hachiman | Or rather his races were idiotic |
| 22:40.46 | Imperios | His fiction was kind of funny |
| 22:40.52 | Imperios | But yes stupid |
| 22:40.53 | Hachiman | To a comedic extent |
| 22:41.07 | Hachiman | Not intentionally comedic, I suppose, but then you never know with Irsk |
| 22:41.09 | AGrayCat | eh who |
| 22:41.18 | Hachiman | Ex-user |
| 22:41.19 | Imperios | They were intentionally comedic |
| 22:41.35 | Imperios | Perhaps they were not created to be comedic but in the end Irsk kinda embraced it |
| 22:41.41 | Imperios | I think |
| 22:41.52 | Ghelae | AGrayCat: Irskaad was the creator of, amongst other races, the Asgord, which were the ones who were exterminated (almost) for their love of petting. |
| 22:42.03 | Hachiman | And then Irsk showed his colours of being almost exactly like his fiction hur |
| 22:42.26 | AGrayCat | well thats fun |
| 22:42.27 | Imperios | Irsk has always been like tha |
| 22:42.53 | Imperios | It's just that we've all moved on with the silliness and he... hasn't |
| 22:42.59 | Imperios | Also Monet |
| 22:43.10 | Hachiman | Monet butts heads with everyone |
| 22:43.17 | Hachiman | Because he is a genuine elitist hur |
| 22:43.39 | Hachiman | Fucking high-class educated pseudo-gentleman |
| 22:44.29 | AGrayCat | Don't you think killing off someones species for doing something bad is uhh... slightly... |
| 22:44.49 | Hachiman | You weren't around |
| 22:44.52 | Imperios | Irskfiction |
| 22:44.58 | Ghelae | Irskaad encouraged it. It wasn't done against his will; we don't do that. |
| 22:45.15 | Imperios | It kinda ran on comedy |
| 22:45.18 | AGrayCat | mhm |
| 22:45.25 | Ghelae | Comedy genocide. |
| 22:45.38 | AGrayCat | uh |
| 22:45.45 | Hachiman | Heil Hitlerious |
| 22:46.09 | Imperios | Monet is the guy who writes good stuff but has the tendency to want everyone to follow his standards |
| 22:46.19 | Hachiman | And that is why he left |
| 22:46.19 | AGrayCat | What do people think of Hitler in the Fiction Universe? |
| 22:46.21 | Xho | Monet's not here anymore anyway |
| 22:46.29 | AGrayCat | For example, what would Aidan Collins think of Hitler? |
| 22:46.29 | Imperios | Which made Irsk and Monet clash |
| 22:46.30 | Hachiman | "Hitler was okay I guess" - Kicath |
| 22:46.38 | Imperios | Which resulted in Irsk leaving eventually |
| 22:46.41 | Imperios | And then Monet left |
| 22:46.50 | Imperios | ...Which is stupid because they were my best friends on the wiki |
| 22:46.58 | Ghelae | I imagine he's been mostly forgotten over the course of centuries. There have been far worse alien dictators to dislike. |
| 22:46.58 | AGrayCat | uh |
| 22:47.12 | AGrayCat | But to the humans? |
| 22:47.23 | Hachiman | Probably far worst human dictators have come around |
| 22:47.29 | AGrayCat | hell a lot of people still dislike atilla |
| 22:47.31 | Imperios | I imagine SporeWiki humans would treat Hitler as we treat Genghis Khan |
| 22:47.42 | Imperios | AGrayCat: Except for Hungarians |
| 22:47.45 | Hachiman | Except Hitler was a known coward |
| 22:47.48 | Xho | Hachiman: Pretty accurate |
| 22:47.51 | Hachiman | While Genghis Khan was a badass |
| 22:48.35 | Imperios | Hitler's atrocities would be recognised but his character would be viewed somewhat coldly |
| 22:48.51 | Imperios | "Hey Hitler killed a lot of people but at least he improved the economy" - that kind of talk |
| 22:48.56 | Imperios | Hell we see that kind of talk even today |
| 22:48.58 | AGrayCat | Stalin however? |
| 22:48.59 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/getinthesea Kicath: The Facebook Page |
| 22:49.05 | AGrayCat | What would the opinion on Stalin be? |
| 22:49.07 | Imperios | AGrayCat: Same |
| 22:49.13 | Imperios | "Killed a lot of people, improved the economy" |
| 22:49.18 | AGrayCat | Mao? |
| 22:49.19 | Hachiman | Russians still like Stalin hur |
| 22:49.25 | Imperios | Not all of us |
| 22:49.26 | Imperios | But many |
| 22:49.42 | Imperios | Again, same |
| 22:49.44 | AGrayCat | mhm |
| 22:50.11 | AGrayCat | What happened to the political ideologies of the dictators? |
| 22:50.17 | AGrayCat | Eg: Maoism, Stalinism, Nazism |
| 22:50.18 | Ghelae | By the 29th century I imagine a lot of people who aren't very well historically educated will think of Hitler and Stalin (and possibly even Mao and others) as the same person: generic 20th-century dictator guy. |
| 22:50.42 | Ghelae | I don't know why I'm currently thinking that. It may not be realistic. But I am. |
| 22:50.54 | Imperios | The only pre-19th century ruler that is viewed by modern people with emotional bias I can think of is Muhammad |
| 22:50.55 | Hachiman | It's kinda true |
| 22:51.07 | Imperios | But that's only because he is viewed as a precursor to modern Jihadis |
| 22:51.32 | Hachiman | ALLAHU AKBAR |
| 22:51.42 | Imperios | SAWLEEM AL SAWARIM |
| 22:51.45 | Imperios | NASHEED UL HUDDA |
| 22:51.58 | Xho | HALAL |
| 22:51.59 | AGrayCat | How will some dictators be worse than Hitler? |
| 22:52.12 | Imperios | AGrayCat: Gas more Jews |
| 22:52.14 | Imperios | Simple |
| 22:52.22 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:52.29 | AGrayCat | What happened to the Jews by the 2800s? |
| 22:52.35 | AGrayCat | and the Zoroastrians |
| 22:52.42 | Xho | Gassed by the Space Japanese |
| 22:52.43 | Hachiman | I like to imagine most religions have taken a backseat |
| 22:52.50 | Imperios | Maybe there was a Zoroastrian revival in Iran at some point |
| 22:52.54 | Xho | Or forced to commit ritual space suicide |
| 22:52.57 | Imperios | After the Islamic Republic was overthrown |
| 22:52.59 | Imperios | Would be cool |
| 22:53.22 | Hachiman | I know that Space Japan would focus more on philosophy than religion and it would probably be a very eccentric thing to be religious |
| 22:53.34 | Imperios | Japanese people are not that religious to begin this |
| 22:53.38 | Imperios | Even today |
| 22:53.39 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 22:53.43 | AGrayCat | When did Humans make first contact with aliens? |
| 22:54.03 | Xho | They're not religious but they do maintain spirituality in their lifestyle |
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| 22:54.19 | Xho | It's quite common to see people go to Buddhist/Shinto shrines in Japan |
| 22:54.20 | Hachiman | I dunno whether it pertains to Confucianism and Buddhism and all that but yeah |
| 22:54.57 | Imperios | Hachiman: I went to a Japanese student to the the State Museum of History of Religion last week and he commented on the Japanese religion section thusly |
| 22:55.21 | Imperios | "...They kinda confused Shinto and Buddhism, but then again, most Japanese do too" |
| 22:55.24 | AGrayCat | When did Humans make first contact with aliens eh? |
| 22:55.27 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:55.32 | Imperios | *with a Japanese |
| 22:55.45 | Hachiman | AGrayCat: It's probably unknown since the human nations expanded outwards separately |
| 22:55.46 | Imperios | He's actually half-Zainichi but still |
| 22:55.51 | Hachiman | First contact dates are probably lost |
| 22:55.53 | AGrayCat | I planned for the Chostvans to make first contact in the mid 21st Century. |
| 22:56.05 | AGrayCat | With knowledge of the humans ranging back for centuries. |
| 22:56.15 | Ghelae | AGrayCat: We don't have a fixed date for that of which I know. Late 22nd century is the best date I can find. |
| 22:56.37 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 22:56.46 | AGrayCat | I planned for the Chostvans to do it in the mid 21st though. |
| 22:57.04 | Hachiman | That's probably not gonna happen |
| 22:57.12 | Hachiman | You're gonna have to rearrange |
| 22:57.20 | Imperios | Anyway back to HALAL |
| 22:57.27 | Hachiman | HARAM |
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| 22:57.54 | Hachiman | ALLAHU AKBAR |
| 22:57.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 22:57.55 | AGrayCat | Why not? |
| 22:58.02 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 22:58.02 | DrodoEmpire | D: |
| 22:58.06 | Imperios | I imagine that if there was a dictator that would proclaim himself a successor to some historical ruler, then perhaps interest to that historical ruler could resurface |
| 22:58.17 | Imperios | Space Hitler |
| 22:58.21 | AGrayCat | If we assume a few nations get their act together and start a decent space program, it could happen. |
| 22:58.24 | Hachiman | inb4 I am Muhammad |
| 22:58.32 | Imperios | JE SUIS MAHOMET |
| 22:58.47 | Zillafire101 | I call dibs on Ceaser. |
| 22:58.49 | Hachiman | AGrayCat: That is the thing, the human nations sorta had a Second Cold War and then a WW3 |
| 22:58.58 | Hachiman | Which lasted a couple centuries |
| 22:59.00 | Imperios | Zillafire101: Kinda already happened with Mussolini |
| 22:59.02 | Hachiman | Or a century maybe |
| 22:59.27 | AGrayCat | Which side won? |
| 22:59.40 | Hachiman | There were no winners |
| 22:59.44 | Hachiman | Only casualties |
| 22:59.45 | Zillafire101 | Then I shall be Caligula. |
| 23:00.22 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:European_Star_Republic#History is the best description of near-future human history that I know of. |
| 23:01.09 | AGrayCat | I planned for a separate Alpine Confederation with Austria, Hungary, and Slovenia in it. |
| 23:01.12 | Ghelae | Combined with the page introduction, it implies that first contact with aliens would have been some time around the 2170s. |
| 23:01.17 | AGrayCat | had an idea |
| 23:01.24 | Imperios | >Ukraine |
| 23:01.27 | Imperios | >In the EU |
| 23:01.29 | Imperios | >Kosovo |
| 23:01.30 | Imperios | >Independent |
| 23:01.53 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfResyFrqlM |
| 23:01.56 | DrodoEmpire | >using greentext |
| 23:02.00 | Hachiman | I wonder if the Kurds are still the rebellious barbarians they are in the 2800s hur |
| 23:02.01 | DrodoEmpire | >stop |
| 23:02.02 | AGrayCat | If Cyrannian and other Human nation owners would find it okay |
| 23:02.26 | DrodoEmpire | I don't imagine most would have a problem |
| 23:02.28 | AGrayCat | i'd like to run a collaborative discussion to decide a few things about 21st-Great Disaster Earth stuff. |
| 23:02.41 | Hachiman | Later |
| 23:02.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'd check with Charles, Cyrannian, Liquid and the lot |
| 23:02.47 | Imperios | Space Kurdistan |
| 23:02.49 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy |
| 23:03.14 | Imperios | Literally pieces of Turkey, Syria and Iraq raised into space and equipped with interstellar drives |
| 23:03.21 | Imperios | Turkey still wants to get them back |
| 23:03.23 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 23:03.29 | Hachiman | Keep in mind that I do not know much about the Kurds and Kurdistan and whatnot so to me they are Turkish barbarians hur |
| 23:03.40 | AGrayCat | also |
| 23:03.49 | AGrayCat | How would inter-species breeding work? |
| 23:03.56 | Hachiman | It shouldn't but |
| 23:04.01 | Hachiman | Essence |
| 23:04.07 | Hachiman | Oh and genetic tampering and whatnot |
| 23:04.09 | Imperios | They're not even Turkish |
| 23:04.30 | Imperios | They're Iranian-speaking |
| 23:04.34 | Hachiman | I thought Kurds resided in northern Turkey? |
| 23:04.56 | Imperios | Eastern Turkey, Northern Iraq, Eastern Syria and Western Iran |
| 23:05.01 | Hachiman | Right |
| 23:05.02 | DrodoEmpire | AGrayCat: Either a lot of essence or extreme genetic and medical intervention |
| 23:05.23 | Ghelae | Natural interspecies breeding (especially if we're talking about between different alien species) certainly shouldn't be possible, but if they both use the same kind of DNA-based biochemistry then genetic engineering can combine genes together into a coherent organism. |
| 23:05.25 | Imperios | So basically they are kinda sandwiched between four countries and don't have an autonomy of their own |
| 23:05.31 | Imperios | That's why they're so angry |
| 23:05.35 | Imperios | Oh and Saladin was a Kurd |
| 23:05.48 | Hachiman | Aye I remember Saladin being Kurdish |
| 23:05.51 | Ghelae | Said genetic engineering can be genetic magic if one prefers. |
| 23:05.58 | Hachiman | But then I actually do not know much of Saladin |
| 23:06.10 | Hachiman | All I know is that he is some sort of hero or something |
| 23:06.19 | Imperios | Neither do I |
| 23:06.27 | Hachiman | Or at least a prominent figure |
| 23:06.28 | Imperios | I know that he ruled Egypt and fought Crusaders |
| 23:06.33 | Imperios | That's about it |
| 23:06.37 | Zillafire101 | Fought crusaders, was bro/enemy of Richard the lion hearted (I think), and yeah, what Impy said |
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| 23:06.47 | Imperios | Zilla knows more than me |
| 23:06.47 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 23:06.49 | Imperios | I AM HUMILIATED |
| 23:07.00 | Zillafire101 | I just play Age of Empires 2 man. |
| 23:07.07 | Imperios | Aren't you Middle Eastern yourself BTW Zilla? |
| 23:07.09 | Hachiman | To be fair, you should not have to learn about the Kebabs in order to remove them |
| 23:07.46 | Zillafire101 | Nope, mostly German, part Irish. All MURICAN, |
| 23:08.11 | Hachiman | Do you eat the potato now or do you subjugate it for later |
| 23:08.43 | Zillafire101 | I give it FREEDOM. Then eat it. |
| 23:08.57 | Imperios | I just realised |
| 23:08.57 | AGrayCat | So how would breeding between a Apationagtus and a human work? |
| 23:09.05 | Hachiman | It wouldn't |
| 23:09.09 | Imperios | The only Muslim guy we had on the wiki was R17 |
| 23:09.13 | Imperios | Imagine him as a suicide bomber |
| 23:09.17 | Hachiman | R17 was Korean |
| 23:09.27 | Hachiman | I don't recall him being Muslim |
| 23:09.32 | Imperios | No he was a Maranao Filipino |
| 23:09.40 | Hachiman | Ah yeah Filipino that was it |
| 23:09.57 | AGrayCat | Who was setting up a space engineers server earlier? |
| 23:10.05 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 23:10.21 | Imperios | He'd set off bombs just by raging |
| 23:10.32 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:10.44 | Imperios | The code word is "XR" |
| 23:10.56 | Zillafire101 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol89jfwoPBY |
| 23:11.09 | AGrayCat | Who was making the space engineers stuff earlier? Could someone tell meh? |
| 23:11.21 | Hachiman | Too late to join now probably |
| 23:11.34 | AGrayCat | err? |
| 23:12.32 | Hachiman | Imperios: I trust you to become the next Vlad the Impaler / Admiral Yi |
| 23:12.42 | Hachiman | Admiral Yi the Impaler |
| 23:12.52 | Zillafire101 | Viad the Impaler. |
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| 23:13.21 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: I trust you to become the next Vlad the Impaler / Admiral Yi |
| 23:13.42 | ImpyDroid | I'll just panic and nuke everything |
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| 23:24.08 | GrayCatt | ok I just need some quick advice from the space engineers guy |
| 23:24.14 | GrayCatt | How do I get in a spaceship? |
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| 23:28.12 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 23:43.00 | The_Randomness | That was strange |
| 23:44.14 | The_Randomness | I got disconnected from freenode for some reason, but no other networks |
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