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| 00:14.25 | AGrayCat | ww3 hasn't started? |
| 00:14.54 | OfficerJackal | What, that incident in Turkey with the Russian SU-24? |
| 00:15.01 | AGrayCat | no thought i heard a missile |
| 00:15.09 | AGrayCat | checked the goddamn bbc for an alert |
| 00:15.14 | AGrayCat | scared the hell out of me |
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| 00:47.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 00:47.29 | tcm | hey |
| 00:49.20 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 00:53.40 | Hachiman | drom: Holy fuck those SAR stories |
| 00:54.04 | Hachiman | I just got done reading 1 through to 7 and I can confirm that I will probably not be able to sleep easily tonight |
| 00:54.46 | Hachiman | Even if these stories are fake in some parts, such as with the lore regarding the stairs and the faceless man and such, they do a very good job of making it read convincingly |
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| 01:01.42 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 01:04.49 | tcm | question about the fantasy universe: i know creating new continents outright is forbidden, but /do/ other continents exist? |
| 01:04.56 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 01:05.04 | DrodoEmpire | For the sake of fiction I don't think so. |
| 01:05.29 | DrodoEmpire | We're having trouble filling the one continent as it is |
| 01:08.26 | Wormy_ | Hachiman, Imperios, Xho and Ghel could probably answer that best though are typically gone at this time. |
| 01:09.33 | Wormy_ | I remember then discussing it. |
| 01:13.58 | tcm | i thought it was a little weird how the local physical avatars of all nature confined themselves solely to a single continent |
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| 01:18.33 | tcm | how do you think humans got to north america? |
| 01:18.45 | DrodoEmpire | Through a land bridge along the bering strait. |
| 01:18.52 | DrodoEmpire | That's how they got across. |
| 01:19.08 | DrodoEmpire | Look it up, its one of the most agreed-upon theories |
| 01:19.08 | tcm | yeah forget that question |
| 01:19.36 | DrodoEmpire | Nah. |
| 01:19.52 | tcm | technology is roughly middle ages, right? |
| 01:19.57 | DrodoEmpire | For the most part |
| 01:20.10 | DrodoEmpire | Anywhere between the bronze age and 16th century for most |
| 01:21.12 | tcm | i was going to bring up the zuni/japan connection but i guess that's only a theory so far |
| 01:21.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm? |
| 01:22.18 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, that. |
| 01:22.30 | DrodoEmpire | Compelling stuff, but that is *not* prehistory |
| 01:22.43 | DrodoEmpire | That is a highly theoretical migration of Japanese during the middle ages |
| 01:23.23 | tcm | middle ages? |
| 01:23.41 | DrodoEmpire | ...From the fall of rome to the discovery of the new world? |
| 01:23.47 | DrodoEmpire | Medieval times? |
| 01:23.53 | tcm | i mean |
| 01:23.57 | tcm | precise timeline on the migration |
| 01:24.18 | tcm | middle ages as a term only really applies to europe, in any case |
| 01:24.29 | DrodoEmpire | Don't meddle in semantics. |
| 01:24.36 | DrodoEmpire | You know what I mean, I know what I mean |
| 01:24.40 | DrodoEmpire | That period in general |
| 01:24.51 | tcm | ah, 12th century |
| 01:24.54 | DrodoEmpire | 500's to early 1500's AD. |
| 01:25.00 | tcm | that fits |
| 01:25.07 | DrodoEmpire | So my point still stands. |
| 01:28.47 | tcm | yeah looks like all really compelling trans-oceanic voyages happened around that time oeriod |
| 01:28.54 | tcm | *period |
| 01:29.08 | tcm | pre-columbus, i mean |
| 01:29.16 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 01:29.44 | DrodoEmpire | And almost all are *extremely* disputed |
| 01:30.12 | DrodoEmpire | I for one am especially skeptical of any voyages from Asia to the Americas; from the Chinese coast to Mexico as an esample |
| 01:30.15 | DrodoEmpire | *exampke |
| 01:30.18 | DrodoEmpire | *example |
| 01:31.37 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not a navigator, but there are few islands or landmasses between China and the Americas, and you can't hug the coastlines quite as much as you can with the route from Europe to the Americas |
| 01:31.56 | DrodoEmpire | Your only option is basically straight across and that's ridiculously dangerous for any wooden vessel |
| 01:32.26 | DrodoEmpire | Even with the Europeans, they had the option of hugging the west african coast for a while, before making the short bound to South America |
| 01:32.42 | DrodoEmpire | And following the coast north or southward if they wished |
| 01:41.12 | Wormy_ | Some weird Atlantic ones (don't believe) I've hear of include Celts in the Americas, and a Welsh prince |
| 01:41.21 | Wormy_ | *heard |
| 01:41.47 | DrodoEmpire | Huh... |
| 01:41.57 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoc#Welsh_Indians |
| 01:42.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Vikings were definitely able to colonize North America for a short period, this has been proven beyond any doubt whatsoever |
| 01:42.38 | DrodoEmpire | But I severely doubt any other group of people from that time period would be able to |
| 01:43.15 | DrodoEmpire | Nobody else in Europe possessed the sort of seafaring prowess the VIkings had, and no Asian civilization could've due to many reasons |
| 01:43.48 | tcm | yeah even the furthest zheng he went was africa |
| 01:44.17 | DrodoEmpire | And he, again, hugged the coastline a lot |
| 01:44.58 | DrodoEmpire | Its not hard to sail to Africa as every step of the trip has ports and landmasses that are easily found and navigated by |
| 01:45.07 | DrodoEmpire | (Sail to africa from china) |
| 02:00.20 | tcm | i remember some chatter about the fiction tier scale getting replaced, did that ever happen |
| 02:02.51 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/d7FqN8Z |
| 02:03.00 | Wormy_ | In the fantasyverse? |
| 02:04.23 | tcm | fiction universe |
| 02:05.11 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 02:05.29 | tcm | i sure as hell can't seem to find the original page for it |
| 02:05.38 | DrodoEmpire | There was some talk of changing it some |
| 02:05.47 | DrodoEmpire | Okay here's the rundown; |
| 02:06.02 | DrodoEmpire | Tier 5: Just above us in the 21st century |
| 02:06.14 | DrodoEmpire | Tier 4: Star Trek Federation, other Alpha Quadrant nations |
| 02:06.34 | DrodoEmpire | Tier 3: UNSC, I'd guess. Terrans from StarCraft probably |
| 02:06.48 | DrodoEmpire | Tier 2: Imperium of Man from WH40k |
| 02:07.06 | DrodoEmpire | Tier 1: Galactic Empire from Star Wars, The Culture, alla them |
| 02:07.23 | DrodoEmpire | Can't *really* go wrong with the Tier scale |
| 02:08.26 | tcm | was the galactic empire really that close to the culture? |
| 02:09.53 | DrodoEmpire | Quite close. Culture would ultimately win but CUlture's on the upper scale of Tier 1 |
| 02:10.03 | DrodoEmpire | GE is inarguably T1 however |
| 02:10.06 | The_Randomness | woops, forgot I left this open |
| 02:24.54 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:25.27 | The_Randomness | yes |
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| 08:08.08 | AGrayCat | so |
| 08:08.09 | AGrayCat | I'm back. |
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| 08:21.27 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 08:37.03 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:02.36 | AGrayCat | I'm writing up the history of the Chostvan Soyuz. |
| 09:02.38 | AGrayCat | Personally I like it. |
| 09:27.32 | AGrayCat | Why is this so flawed? |
| 09:28.21 | AGrayCat | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chostvan_Soyuz_(Gigaquadrant)/Chostvan_People%27s_Forces |
| 09:28.26 | AGrayCat | What the hell is causing that? |
| 09:29.11 | AGrayCat | eh |
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| 09:43.37 | Ghelae | AGrayCat: In future, add {{delete}} to a page you want to be deleted so it'll show up in [[Category:Candidates for deletion]]. |
| 09:43.37 | morgothBotPy | Ghelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:delete, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion |
| 09:44.05 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 09:44.07 | AGrayCat | thanks |
| 09:44.08 | AGrayCat | Imperios: |
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| 09:44.22 | Imperios | Hmm? |
| 09:48.41 | AGrayCat | Hmm? |
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| 11:54.14 | AGrayCat | I'm planning to reorganise the military of the Soyuz. |
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| 12:20.19 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:20.21 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 12:53.41 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 12:54.54 | AGrayCat | Hi wormy_ |
| 12:57.39 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 13:01.18 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-34918491 |
| 13:03.59 | AGrayCat | what? |
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| 13:05.50 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 13:40.46 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/n9Y3Vzk |
| 13:42.12 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ejyi79p |
| 13:47.12 | AGrayCat | eh worms? |
| 13:54.03 | Wormy_ | well that escalated quickly http://imgur.com/gallery/qEw3A |
| 14:33.14 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 14:38.50 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 14:39.28 | AGrayCat | test |
| 14:49.36 | TekDroid | Charles_Murray AGrayCat: hello |
| 14:49.48 | Charles_Murray | Hey Tek |
| 14:49.56 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 14:50.11 | AGrayCat | what is this monstrosity |
| 14:50.12 | AGrayCat | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AThe_Harc_Alliance |
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| 14:58.41 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 15:10.40 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.43 | ImpyDroid | oops |
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| 15:20.32 | Technobliterator | TekDroid, how good are you at Java? |
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| 15:24.19 | Tek0516 | Technobliterator: I consider myself fairly good at Java. I'm in the final weeks of my university Java course too. |
| 15:24.30 | Technobliterator | Ah, sweet |
| 15:24.45 | Technobliterator | Any chance you can give me a hand? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with my script >.< |
| 15:26.02 | Tek0516 | Sure. I'm just grabbing some breakfast now then I can take a look. |
| 15:28.09 | drom | Technobliterator: Could give it a hand too! |
| 15:28.50 | Technobliterator | gimme a moment |
| 15:31.18 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 15:32.34 | drom | Technobliterator: If you are getting errors/exceptions, just post em here |
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| 15:39.00 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 15:40.25 | drom | What the fuck Technobliterator |
| 15:40.40 | drom | do you have stdout hooked to your IRC?? |
| 15:40.54 | Technobliterator | I...do not :o |
| 15:41.15 | drom | I got whole of your compiling log PM'd to me |
| 15:41.29 | Technobliterator | those were the errors |
| 15:41.47 | drom | Still, compiling log |
| 15:42.43 | drom | Technobliterator: You've to capitalize the s in string, it should be String |
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| 16:13.41 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 16:33.50 | TekPC | slaps Tek0516 around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 16:35.27 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 16:38.48 | Tek0516 | I find it amusing that my university has at least three different coffee chains on campus. XD |
| 16:39.23 | Wormy_ | Ah coffee and monster, the campus drink of students. |
| 16:39.32 | Wormy_ | (doesn't touch monster) |
| 16:40.31 | Wormy_ | Someone once found a mouse in their can of Monster energy. The company was impossible, because "it would have dissolved by now" |
| 16:40.44 | Wormy_ | *said it |
| 16:41.48 | AGrayCat | can anyone hear me? |
| 16:42.29 | drom | AGreyCat: Well, what is the matter? |
| 16:43.01 | AGrayCat | making sure i'm not talking to myself and people can see my words? |
| 16:43.37 | drom | Ghelae Wormy_: Have a draft http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty/Technology#Dro.27makkar_Reactor |
| 16:44.55 | Wormy_ | cool stuff |
| 16:47.24 | Wormy_ | Yes, in the world of interstellar grids, hypermatter, antimatter etc. things like fusion would still have many uses just as fire, hydraulic pressure and clay does for us. |
| 16:49.27 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12308754_1649534548628357_2846997390687276320_n.jpg?oh=e4eae14a55f0c38706b3c03f88830133&oe=56ED211A |
| 16:49.34 | Wormy_ | I imagine the DCP probably does find uses for hydrocarbon deposits |
| 16:50.23 | Wormy_ | Maybe not fuel so much, but as basis for substances like plastics or synthetic life |
| 16:50.24 | drom | I predict that the usage of the reactors have minimal emission of hyperspace signature. In trade off emitting a strong aura of EM raditation. |
| 16:50.52 | drom | That, stronger energy signature |
| 16:54.28 | Ghelae | That is, you can't see a fusion reactor in hyperspace but it's hot and radioactive. |
| 16:54.36 | Ghelae | That should be correct, yes. |
| 16:56.09 | drom | Though I'm wondering if that makes any difference on detecting those signatures between hyperspace signature. |
| 16:56.48 | drom | And if the high energy signature is distinguishable in hyperspace. |
| 16:59.04 | Ghelae | a) There's no reason for the radiation released from fusion to leak into hyperspace; if that happened it would also happen with stars and we'd notice an energy deficit in realspace; |
| 16:59.32 | Ghelae | b) with a hyperspace signature you could detect a ship in closer to real-time (and perhaps from further away); if you're limited to light-speed detections it's possible for a ship to travel unpredictably so as to perfectly evade attacks at distances of a few light-seconds. |
| 17:00.36 | Ghelae | So while it does depend on how good your enemies' sensors are, but if you can avoid their FTL sensors then you have an advantage at relatively (as far as space is concerned) close distances. |
| 17:01.25 | drom | So I created the reversed brother of the hyperspace submarine then |
| 17:04.48 | Ghelae | In a certain way, yes. You'll be far from invisible - being powered by a minature star makes that incredibly difficult - but you can take advantage of light-speed delay more than hypermatter-powered vessels can. |
| 17:07.08 | Xho | Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OV45Dj8SM I suggest listening to this |
| 17:07.10 | drom | Yes, more empires seem to tend to trace for hyperspatial signtaures rather than realspace ones |
| 17:07.25 | drom | But who said that they don't? |
| 17:09.03 | AGrayCat | i'm just depressed |
| 17:09.06 | AGrayCat | not despressed |
| 17:09.15 | AGrayCat | but in a state of shock and sad |
| 17:09.54 | Ghelae | If you don't look for realspace signatures then you're opening yourself up to attack by primitive technologies. It's like relying entirely on radar so that you let low-flying wooden biplanes drop bombs on you. |
| 17:10.09 | Wormy_ | Xho: I like it |
| 17:10.33 | Wormy_ | Music like that is good when writing sci-fi stories. |
| 17:11.20 | drom | After looking at a QA board about origins of the "energy signature", it seems like a normal fusion reactor generate less raditiation than hypermatter/antimatter and fission reactors. |
| 17:12.15 | drom | And the raditation can be easily blocked off |
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| 17:15.36 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 17:15.46 | OluapPlayer | honk |
| 17:15.53 | Xho | KHAAAAAAAN |
| 17:16.30 | AGrayCat | What other metals/minerals are there apart from Andasium? |
| 17:17.14 | Xho | Other metals? |
| 17:17.15 | Xho | Well |
| 17:17.18 | Xho | Progressive, death, thrash |
| 17:17.28 | Xho | Doom, black, experimental |
| 17:17.37 | Xho | Heavy, alternative, math |
| 17:18.37 | drom | "Alternative metal" |
| 17:18.44 | Xho | In reality though, metals and minerals aren't really explored much in fiction |
| 17:18.46 | drom | Hmm choices choices |
| 17:19.11 | Xho | Pseudometals I guess are the closest equivalent to what we've explored but they're more of a wonder-material than what could be used for a fuel source |
| 17:20.34 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 17:21.03 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 17:21.14 | AGrayCat | I think a few new ones should be created. |
| 17:21.25 | Wormy_ | Cat: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Mineral_deposits |
| 17:21.35 | Wormy_ | I still need to fill it in |
| 17:22.26 | Wormy_ | I'm not sure how canon these are http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Impossible_Minerals_of_the_Galaxy |
| 17:22.47 | Wormy_ | Feel free to suggest some http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:202523 |
| 17:23.29 | Wormy_ | A lot of Tier 2-1 races use quantum replicators (and hypermatter), an essentially magical way of producing matter from the vacuum |
| 17:24.33 | AGrayCat | I'm a Tier 2-1 race! |
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| 17:25.50 | Wormy_ | There are still benefits to traditional mining and extraction, as outlined on the Andasium page. For example, you could create Andasium but at a cost when hypermatter can be used for something-else. |
| 17:26.58 | drom | Wormy_: I think the Sovereignty are perhaps the biggest hipsters to exists on Sporewikiverse, they almost barely use anything related to the technology held by 2-1 tiers |
| 17:27.47 | Wormy_ | Low Tier 2 is already tremendously advanced |
| 17:27.57 | AGrayCat | I'm Tier 2-1. |
| 17:27.59 | Wormy_ | without even touching hyperspatial tech |
| 17:28.02 | AGrayCat | That means the border is fuzzy. |
| 17:28.16 | Wormy_ | Cat: The whole Tier 2 is fuzzy |
| 17:28.31 | Wormy_ | In fact all the tiers are if you want to go into detail.# |
| 17:29.09 | drom | The only hyperspatial tech I'm guessing for NS is advanced hyperspatial travel and networks of instanteous warpgates |
| 17:29.33 | Wormy_ | Yes, a two-way wormhole is a hallmark of hyperspatial technology |
| 17:30.00 | Wormy_ | I speculate on that, based more on sci-fi than real physics, but the tier scale has to accomodate both |
| 17:30.16 | AGrayCat | Idea: |
| 17:30.27 | AGrayCat | we need new metals and minerals hmm? |
| 17:31.01 | AGrayCat | collaboration sounds like a good idea to make a lot of them to expand the metal/mineral side of things. |
| 17:32.29 | drom | Wormy_: Ah oh, ftl communication, quantum computing and that indestructable gold-like material. |
| 17:34.02 | AGrayCat | how does it sound? |
| 17:34.23 | Wormy_ | That's what the forum is there for, but it never took off. |
| 17:34.49 | Wormy_ | Unless you mean a fiction specifically designed with the theme of ores |
| 17:34.55 | Wormy_ | Possible |
| 17:35.22 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 17:35.27 | AGrayCat | well lets brainstorm eh? |
| 17:35.49 | Wormy_ | I'd love to, but right now I'm procrastinating :/ |
| 17:35.57 | AGrayCat | wju |
| 17:35.58 | AGrayCat | whu |
| 17:35.59 | AGrayCat | why |
| 17:36.39 | Wormy_ | I'm playing Space Engineers this weekend, some users do here. If we played it together maybe the idea would suddenly take off. |
| 17:37.01 | Wormy_ | Got work to do, and sporewikiverse is a huge distraction. |
| 17:37.10 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/12308465_1249124171780872_8115190230661235723_n.jpg?oh=da35b36baac3d20d34ec962452943686&oe=56F200B5 I actually understood this |
| 17:37.50 | AGrayCat | huh |
| 17:37.53 | drom | Hm yeah. I actually want to enjoy my randomly scrambled playlist of Undertale soundtracks |
| 17:38.06 | drom | and read those SAR no-sleep stories |
| 17:39.46 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 17:45.01 | AGrayCat | eh |
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| 17:48.48 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 17:50.46 | Guest18622 | slaps AGrayCat around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 17:50.51 | Guest18622 | eh |
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| 17:52.22 | GrayCat | grrrrrr |
| 17:52.36 | GrayCat | TEMPORARILY GODDAMN UNAVAILABLE? |
| 17:52.43 | GrayCat | you have to be kidding me |
| 18:00.18 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 18:01.32 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 18:01.45 | AGrayCat | we were talking earlier about more types of metals and minerals |
| 18:19.49 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 18:40.47 | drom | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/QUI7cw5.webm |
| 18:41.27 | Xho | Not quite sure what's going one |
| 18:41.29 | Xho | on* |
| 18:42.32 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 18:42.43 | AGrayCat | why is nobody talking |
| 18:42.43 | drom | Neither do I, but it came with the title: "Where will you be when the acid kicks in." |
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| 18:45.37 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 18:46.57 | drom | Hai |
| 18:47.20 | drom | Ghelae: Wrote up this after you left |
| 18:47.20 | drom | drom> After looking at a QA board about origins of the "energy signature", it seems like a normal fusion reactor generate less raditiation than hypermatter/antimatter and fission reactors. |
| 18:47.20 | drom | <drom> And the raditation can be easily blocked off |
| 18:51.16 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 18:52.29 | Ghelae | It may well do, but it's easy enough for there to still be some infrared radiation to detect. |
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| 18:52.56 | Ghelae | Unless you're okay with your spaceship being at a temperature -270C. |
| 18:53.00 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 18:53.58 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 18:54.18 | drom | Ghelae: Hm, whatcha mean? I mean that the liquid helium turns the spaceship into an analogy to Frozen? |
| 18:54.57 | drom | Oh silly me |
| 18:59.49 | Ghelae | Yeah; "frozen" is an understatement when you need it to be as cold as the cosmic background radiation. :P |
| 19:00.09 | drom | Yeah, just realized it now >.< |
| 19:00.50 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 19:01.25 | drom | I guess I could have them to cold their hull, and keep it separated from other parts using a kind of super-isolator between them. |
| 19:01.37 | Ghelaway | AGrayCat: What are you "eh?"ing at? |
| 19:02.16 | AGrayCat | I just say eh to everything. |
| 19:02.23 | AGrayCat | Trying to spark a conversation. |
| 19:02.27 | AGrayCat | since it has been a slow day today |
| 19:02.36 | Ghelaway | drom: Then how do you keep the ship from overheating? |
| 19:02.51 | Ghelaway | AGrayCat: You can't expect to start a conversation without providing a topic. |
| 19:03.08 | drom | Ghelaway: Cool down everything hur |
| 19:03.24 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 19:03.34 | Ghelaway | How? You can't just destroy heat. |
| 19:05.09 | Ghelaway | You can only cool things down by moving heat away from them and into something else. And if you're not letting heat escape your ship then all of that heat will remain on your ship. |
| 19:05.44 | Ghelaway | The standard technique in SporeWiki is presumably to dump waste heat into hyperspace. That's not an option if you're trying to reduce your hyperspace signature to nothing. |
| 19:05.58 | drom | Ghelaway: Yeah. I've been thinking of trying to transform the heat to energy, recycle it into systems that require heat (life support, food cooking and etc etc) |
| 19:06.33 | drom | But yes, I don't think the cold hull idea isn't a practicial idea at all. |
| 19:06.41 | Ghelaway | You can't use all of that heat. There's a maximum efficiency - called the Carnot efficiency - and inevitably some will be wasted. This is all part of the second law of thermodynamics, basically. |
| 19:06.55 | Ghelaway | Have a read of this: http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4a31122b879b4 |
| 19:07.07 | Ghelaway | That might give you some good ideas. |
| 19:07.10 | Ghelaway | goes to actually being away now |
| 19:07.44 | drom | Ah thanks! |
| 19:13.10 | AGrayCat | Is there a universal timeline? |
| 19:13.20 | AGrayCat | I'm only just reading up on a 1998-2009 war thingie. |
| 19:14.33 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12250018_1039044029480566_4629503133976613353_n.jpg?oh=e471ecc807875e0970fa19e55766a453&oe=56E7C0C6 Where's Imperios when you want to show him something |
| 19:16.25 | AGrayCat | Xho: Is there a timeline? |
| 19:16.39 | Xho | There probably is somewhere |
| 19:16.48 | Xho | I've been here long enough to not need a timeline so |
| 19:16.52 | Xho | Can't help you realy |
| 19:16.55 | Xho | really |
| 19:17.16 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 19:17.22 | AGrayCat | this is the only one |
| 19:17.22 | AGrayCat | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/History |
| 19:17.27 | AGrayCat | hmm. |
| 19:17.33 | AGrayCat | doesn't really say much. |
| 19:19.47 | drom | Xho: I cannot help but laugh at how Turkey became the smartest idiot of all time.. |
| 19:33.45 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 19:39.55 | Tek0516 | O.o So Ottawa University cancelled its free yoga classes over "culture appropriation" |
| 19:41.31 | Ghel | AGrayCat: Universal timelines have generally failed due to a lack of interest in maintaining them. But... |
| 19:41.51 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 19:42.04 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Banelord88/Timeline_Demo - this guy's put a fair amount of effort into one. |
| 19:42.41 | AGrayCat | No 20th, 19th, and early 21st Century stuff though. |
| 19:42.50 | AGrayCat | That period of time REALLY needs to be expanded on. |
| 19:43.17 | AGrayCat | wait |
| 19:43.21 | AGrayCat | it is 2825? |
| 19:43.41 | Ghel | Nowhere near. |
| 19:44.10 | Tek0516 | I think Charles started one at one point |
| 19:44.43 | AGrayCat | What is the year then? |
| 19:44.52 | Ghel | It's probably debatable as to whether those fictions c.2807 are even as late as that; after 2800 fiction-writing slowed down faster than the official calendar ticked over. |
| 19:45.03 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 19:45.12 | AGrayCat | I have the date at 2804. |
| 19:45.44 | Ghel | That'll do. Generally the latest fictions are set in the early-to-mid 2800s. |
| 19:46.52 | Ghel | As for the 19th-to-20th centuries, there was very little intergalactic interaction going on then, so most different events are really only one empire's business. |
| 19:47.05 | Ghel | Not that nany of the other events Banelord included in his timeline aren't. |
| 19:47.15 | Ghel | many* |
| 19:47.46 | Tek0516 | GXS and its participants are at mid-2803, not sure if anyone is further |
| 19:48.08 | Tek0516 | Anything before the mid-27th century is backstory in almost all cases AFAIK. |
| 19:49.25 | Ghel | Pretty much. The out-of-universe history of the SporeWikiverse basically started shortly before the Tigris War, and for that reason most of the major empires didn't come into contact with each other until then. |
| 19:50.42 | Ghel | There are also some other inaccuracies in that timeline, on a closer look, but it's the best single reference we have. |
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| 20:04.12 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
| 20:06.57 | AGrayCat | Why didn't they contact each other? |
| 20:07.25 | Ghel | They just hadn't encountered each other. Being in different galaxies has that effect. |
| 20:08.55 | AGrayCat | seems unrealistic but eh |
| 20:08.58 | Ghel | And in the centuries before then, even transgalactic travel was difficult, especially in the Milky Way with Grox all around the core. |
| 20:09.07 | Ghel | Why do you think it's unrealistic? |
| 20:09.48 | Ghel | Especially when you consider that this is a universe with faster-than-light travel, brimming with humanoid aliens and the first conflict written about it was a war against literal demons. :P |
| 20:10.26 | AGrayCat | exactly |
| 20:10.31 | AGrayCat | faster-than-light travel. |
| 20:10.53 | Ghel | Realistically, you'd expect there to be empires a lot older - billions of years older - who would have a presence across countless galaxies. And that's even without FTL, but we don't observe that in our universe. |
| 20:11.33 | Ghel | Oh, okay. You've just implied you think FTL should make it easy for empires to contact each other across intergalactic distances. |
| 20:12.26 | Ghel | Erm, no. That depends on how fast the drives go and what their range is like. In the SporeWikiverse decent hyperdrives may not come until centuries after much slower warp drives. |
| 20:12.31 | AGrayCat | Ghel, what I'm saying, is that right now, for instance, people are saying their empires just met each other. |
| 20:12.39 | drom | FTL doesn't make diplomacy go faster |
| 20:12.51 | AGrayCat | mhm. |
| 20:12.52 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.68) |
| 20:12.53 | AGrayCat | But it helps it. |
| 20:14.29 | Ghel | As an example, the DCP would have struggled to contact the Spinkers when a) the, I don't know, 30,000 light-year distance between them takes 50+ years to cross with their warp drives, and b) there's a Grox empire in the way ready to shoot any ships that try to go by them. |
| 20:15.05 | AGrayCat | point conceded bud |
| 20:15.35 | AGrayCat | Imperios: Aren't you the person running Spode-stuff right now? |
| 20:15.40 | drom | NS didn't arrive to GQ in months, it took them hundred to thousand years |
| 20:15.45 | Imperios | Yes |
| 20:16.07 | drom | Imperios: Xho wanted to show you dis https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12250018_1039044029480566_4629503133976613353_n.jpg?oh=e471ecc807875e0970fa19e55766a453&oe=56E7C0C6 |
| 20:19.58 | AGrayCat | Does The Kaernk use the IRC? |
| 20:20.10 | drom | Not so far I know, no. |
| 20:20.13 | AGrayCat | Imperios: Could I help with some Spode stuff? |
| 20:20.18 | AGrayCat | drom: Okay. |
| 20:20.23 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11951344_10153613016253343_8622485366945956402_n.jpg?oh=6174122bae5bf2b2532420c6f3a4f0aa&oe=56F4DED7 |
| 20:20.32 | Imperios | Hm? What are you suggesting/ |
| 20:20.41 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
| 20:20.56 | drom | Xho: It kinda looks lika chair hur |
| 20:21.02 | drom | like a* |
| 20:21.16 | Hachiman | drom: The full picture is actually a skeleton chair |
| 20:21.29 | drom | KNEW IT |
| 20:21.49 | drom | Hachiman Xho Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/CJ9n3VO.jpg |
| 20:22.02 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:22.58 | drom | Hachiman Xho Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/2tQNCrR.jpg |
| 20:24.34 | Hachiman | I wonder if zombies and undead that Fantasy Moxix rises and creates are able to do stuff like have kids and such |
| 20:25.31 | Hachiman | I mean theoretically if they can we can pin it down to magic bs |
| 20:25.43 | Xho | So there's a lot of red patches of skin showing up all over me |
| 20:25.52 | Xho | For the love of god this better not be psoriasis |
| 20:26.42 | Hachiman | Well shit |
| 20:26.47 | Hachiman | inb4 xhoriasis |
| 20:27.19 | Xho | NOOO |
| 20:27.41 | drom | eczema |
| 20:28.15 | Ghel | ecxhoma |
| 20:28.23 | Xho | stahp dis |
| 20:28.24 | drom | My father has got it, he has red patches all over him, except he always *have* to scratch them apart. |
| 20:28.37 | Xho | Well I've had it checked out |
| 20:28.54 | Xho | They're saying it's most likely ringworm but there's a chance it's psoriasis on the basis that my sister suffers from it also |
| 20:30.50 | Xho | It's a bit too bumpy to be psoriasis |
| 20:31.07 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 20:32.47 | drom | It generally sucks to have sensitive skin |
| 20:37.31 | Xho | It might be discoid eczema or pityriasis rosea |
| 20:37.35 | Xho | Either way this sucks |
| 20:38.00 | AGrayCat | Do we need to make our characters in spore? |
| 20:38.14 | AGrayCat | its just that the clothing range sorta sucks and i know someone who can draw |
| 20:40.24 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12308377_1030591167005621_4661428946859820452_n.jpg?oh=9e3d01f20b4e906b23b3a0ffe2203840&oe=56E2DB7E |
| 20:40.40 | Xho | AGrayCat: I think drawings are acceptable |
| 20:40.50 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:41.06 | AGrayCat | yay |
| 20:41.09 | Hachiman | No, they gotta be made in Spore |
| 20:41.17 | AGrayCat | Characters? |
| 20:41.25 | drom | WIKIA YOUR SCRIPTS SUCK |
| 20:41.25 | AGrayCat | Species I can agree with... but characters? |
| 20:41.26 | Hachiman | Drawings and crap is miscellaneous stuff; like you should not have them as a character's main image |
| 20:42.31 | Hachiman | Put drawings and stuff in like a character's Gallery section or something |
| 20:42.45 | Ghel | You could just not illustrate your character at all (although that makes the page look boring), or you could illustrate them with a generic image of their species (which only makes it boring when compared to the species page). |
| 20:43.52 | AGrayCat | hmhuhh |
| 20:45.08 | Ghel | You aren't going to be banned or have your page deleted for illustrating a page with a drawing, unless there's a copyright violation involved. |
| 20:45.20 | AGrayCat | hah |
| 20:46.01 | Ghel | But using Spore is ideal. |
| 20:46.27 | Technobliterator | Back in the day, drawings were the only way to illustrate a page |
| 20:46.33 | Technobliterator | but that was because Spore was not yet released |
| 20:46.38 | Xho | That being said I am taking treatment for ringworm and some of it is fading |
| 20:46.42 | Xho | So might be working |
| 20:46.48 | AGrayCat | ideal eh? |
| 20:47.00 | Technobliterator | I, personally, don't think a page in any content namespace should exist with zero images from Spore |
| 20:47.05 | Xho | To be honest it's a matter of preference |
| 20:47.19 | Xho | If I was a world-class artist I'd definitely illustrate all of my pages with drawings |
| 20:47.23 | Technobliterator | it's possibly ok in Fiction namespace |
| 20:47.35 | Technobliterator | not anywhjere else |
| 20:47.50 | AGrayCat | I was planning on using it with Fiction. |
| 20:48.01 | Technobliterator | should be ok then |
| 20:48.04 | AGrayCat | And I plan to put some images in from Spore. |
| 20:50.39 | Xho | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=562368640 So this is what death looks like |
| 20:51.34 | AGrayCat | also |
| 20:51.40 | AGrayCat | Which empires would like to invest in the Soyuz? |
| 20:52.04 | AGrayCat | and companies of course |
| 20:53.33 | Hachiman | Xho: Absolute savage |
| 20:54.24 | Xho | 1) It's a Deathclaw 2) It's a Savage Deathclaw 3) It's a Level 61 Savage Deathclaw |
| 20:57.24 | drom | dem accuracy tho |
| 20:57.48 | Xho | That's with a Gatling Laser as well hur |
| 20:58.05 | Xho | I'm a fairly high level in Fallout 4 as well so |
| 20:58.06 | drom | more like fried deathclaw |
| 20:58.17 | Xho | Level 41 I think |
| 20:58.40 | Xho | Fallout 4 doesn't actually have a level cap |
| 20:58.41 | Xho | ah dammit |
| 21:01.00 | AGrayCat | SO |
| 21:01.01 | AGrayCat | so |
| 21:01.14 | AGrayCat | Would anyone like to do a small collaboration on the Chostvan Soyuz? |
| 21:03.31 | drom | If you have no idea or a draft for what it would be, then I cannot help you. |
| 21:06.59 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (2f37c603@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.55.198.3) |
| 21:07.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 21:07.26 | drom | Hello |
| 21:07.57 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 21:09.25 | drom | Ghel: Pictures of a fusion reactor in operation is simply beautiful |
| 21:09.31 | drom | are* |
| 21:10.42 | Ghel | Are you looking at tokamaks? |
| 21:11.07 | drom | Yeah |
| 21:11.46 | drom | Ghel: Visualisation or not, it is beautiful. http://www.scottishenergynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Tokamak-nuclear-fusion-energy-generator-in-operation.jpg |
| 21:12.05 | Ghel | Oh, that could easily be a photo. |
| 21:12.56 | Ghel | Saying that, sticking a camera inside superheated plasma isn't always the best idea... but I'm sure it's been done. |
| 21:13.02 | AGrayCat | oh no drom |
| 21:13.05 | drom | There are indeed cameras suited to survive in super-heated environments. It is quite jaw-breaking that such technology exists. |
| 21:13.28 | AGrayCat | It would be a small group working to improve the article and add new parts and sub-divisions to the Soyuz article, with shared ownership of the article in the end. |
| 21:14.18 | drom | For instance, Ghel. In the paper pulp facility I worked for a month in, they have a gigantic oven that boil all used chemicals over 10 000 celcius, they have three cameras that monitor the whole process inside the oven's hottest chamber. |
| 21:15.58 | Ghel | It shouldn't be too unreasonable to have specialised cameras in the colder parts of a tokamak, then. |
| 21:20.06 | AGrayCat | How does that plan sound Drom? |
| 21:20.32 | drom | A bit off but, they also had a camera that monitored every injection gates. If you ask me, those are 50x50 cm openings, the oven has 8 of them distributed among 4 floors connected to the oven, wheras at every opening there is a water-spout-like cannon bolted to the floor infront of them facing into it. Expired and used chemicals and unclean water are "injected" by them into the oven |
| 21:21.25 | drom | AGrayCat: I still have idea what it is about |
| 21:21.39 | Ghel | AGrayCat: I say collaborative empires are a good idea. They've been done before, although a single user saying generally to everyone else "hey wanna share this fiction with me?" rarely works. |
| 21:21.43 | AGrayCat | "It would be a small group working to improve the article and add new parts and sub-divisions to the Soyuz article, with shared ownership of the article in the end." |
| 21:21.55 | AGrayCat | It won't be a 'share this empire'. |
| 21:22.02 | AGrayCat | a collaborative one |
| 21:23.27 | Ghel | You said "shared ownership of the article", which is close enough in principle. You need to get to know people over time - you haven't been here very long after all - and then discuss it specifically with some people who might be interested in it. |
| 21:23.46 | Ghel | Maybe you'll get lucky and somebody reading this will want to take you up on your offer. |
| 21:24.20 | drom | I still have no what kind of empire it would be, what are their intentions? How are they like? Where do they come from? |
| 21:24.26 | drom | no idea |
| 21:24.28 | drom | fsss |
| 21:25.08 | Ghel | You could read the page, drom. :P |
| 21:26.08 | drom | Ghel: I thought that fusion reactors created a vacuum environment before operation. |
| 21:26.48 | Ghel | You aren't going to want other gases getting in the way, so ideally I suppose you'd want to get rid of the air. |
| 21:27.17 | Ghel | Although when you put the plasma in then by definition it's no longer a vacuum. |
| 21:27.27 | drom | Heheh yeah |
| 21:30.15 | AGrayCat | drom: Read the page, eh? |
| 21:30.58 | drom | I've read it yesterday, not the new changes since then. |
| 21:31.40 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 21:41.02 | AGrayCat | right now i'm working on a tv company list |
| 21:45.17 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 21:45.22 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting |
| 21:45.56 | drom | ah cyka blyad, I wanted to talk with Impy ;-; |
| 21:45.57 | AGrayCat | I'm going to work my way to around 250 channels. |
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| 21:46.08 | AGrayCat | people will be able to add their own channels to it |
| 21:46.37 | AGrayCat | My idea is for a DigitalVision network, fully integrated like a late space-age television network. |
| 21:47.13 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 21:49.07 | Charles_Bot | I assume you've seen this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Media |
| 21:50.18 | AGrayCat | thats media |
| 21:50.36 | AGrayCat | I'm envisioning cooking, netflix-style things, films, etc. |
| 21:50.39 | AGrayCat | entertainment |
| 21:50.42 | DrodoEmpire | ...So are television and television companies? |
| 21:50.43 | AGrayCat | and a few news channels |
| 21:50.47 | DrodoEmpire | That's a form of media... |
| 21:50.48 | AGrayCat | DrodoEmpire: |
| 21:50.55 | AGrayCat | You would not call a film actual media. |
| 21:51.07 | AGrayCat | darn |
| 21:51.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, media is an extremely broad thing.\ |
| 21:51.10 | AGrayCat | dictionary proved me wrong |
| 21:51.14 | AGrayCat | point darn conceded |
| 21:51.14 | DrodoEmpire | There you go. :p |
| 21:51.19 | AGrayCat | but |
| 21:51.26 | AGrayCat | all of those channels are news channels |
| 21:51.32 | DrodoEmpire | Still news media |
| 21:51.39 | DrodoEmpire | You can add whatever you want there |
| 21:51.43 | DrodoEmpire | Needs more stuff actually |
| 21:52.27 | drom | Ghel: Didn't change the old so much; mostly grammarical errors that has been fixed - how does this look? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty/Technology#Dro.27makkar_Reactor |
| 21:54.23 | Ghel | Not too bad. Still a few spelling/grammar/style errors. The biggest problem is that I wouldn't call monopolium rods "monopolized magnets", even if they do happen to be magnets that are all under the control of a single corporation. :P |
| 21:55.14 | Ghel | That also puts undue emphasis on the magnetic properties of the monopoles, which aren't the reason that they're useful. |
| 21:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | Corporation - I OWN EVERY MAGNET ON EARTH |
| 21:55.31 | DrodoEmpire | Corporation - YOUR FRIDGE DOORS BELONG TO ME NOW |
| 21:55.33 | drom | olol |
| 21:56.10 | AGrayCat | so |
| 21:56.17 | AGrayCat | b-b-ut |
| 21:56.23 | AGrayCat | I finally had an idea |
| 21:56.27 | AGrayCat | and then it is taken |
| 21:56.27 | AGrayCat | darn |
| 21:56.34 | AGrayCat | ;-; |
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| 21:57.16 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 21:57.50 | drom | Ghel DrodoEmpire: The word "monopolium" still implies like it is some material that helps you to monopolize anything you apply to. |
| 21:58.08 | Ghel | Hmm. That might be Orion's Arm calls it "magmatter". |
| 21:58.54 | Wormy_semi_here | I would refrain from calling anything by OA terms |
| 21:59.06 | Wormy_semi_here | Unless those terms in OA were not original |
| 21:59.12 | Ghel | I assume that's why we call it "monopolium" instead. |
| 21:59.24 | Ghel | You can certainly monopolise the energy and astroengineering markets with it. |
| 21:59.55 | Wormy_semi_here | I think "rianth", "tweak", "Gengineered" etc. aren't original to OA though |
| 22:00.49 | Ghel | Actually, I hadn't previously considered using monopolium rods in catalysed fusion. I just imagined you injected monopole "gas" into the plasma, but solid monopolium could also work. |
| 22:01.49 | Ghel | I don't know about "rianth", but it's clearly short for "therianthrope". "Tweak" is so generic I imagine it's elsewhere. |
| 22:02.08 | AGrayCat | hi wormy |
| 22:02.10 | AGrayCat | i'm sad |
| 22:02.12 | AGrayCat | i made an idea |
| 22:02.14 | AGrayCat | but someone already did it |
| 22:02.16 | AGrayCat | ;-; |
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| 22:04.14 | Hachiman | What was the idea? |
| 22:05.06 | AGrayCat | television stuff |
| 22:05.06 | AGrayCat | but eh |
| 22:05.09 | AGrayCat | someone beat meh to it |
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| 22:05.18 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
| 22:05.22 | AGrayCat | so i'm gonna work on trying to make improvements to it |
| 22:09.41 | drom | Ghel: Since you implied that those reactors is like bringing around a miniature sun, what do you estimate the equivalent of its energy output? |
| 22:10.56 | Ghel | I don't really know. |
| 22:11.18 | drom | Energy output measured with http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HiroshimaAsAUnitOfMeasure |
| 22:11.54 | Ghel | It depends on so many things: size, shape, the nuclear reactions that occur, inefficiencies in the system, the ability of energy to be harnessed... |
| 22:13.48 | Ghel | Even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawson_criterion is for a fairly ideal case. |
| 22:15.14 | Ghel | In the notation of that page, the output is f*E_ch - P_loss |
| 22:18.42 | Ghel | Assuming a number density of one mole per cubic metre, and no power loss whatsoever, <\sigma * v> ~ 10^-22 m^3 s^-1, and E_ch = 3.5 MeV as given on that page... |
| 22:19.31 | Ghel | You get a power output of about 5 TeV. |
| 22:19.39 | Ghel | TW* |
| 22:20.28 | Ghel | Or a little under 0.1 Hiroshimas per second. |
| 22:27.22 | drom | Interesting |
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| 22:30.03 | drom | The_Kaernk: If you were looking for AGrayCat, he left ~20 mins ago |
| 22:30.12 | drom | But if you wait, he might come back |
| 22:30.41 | drom | Ghel: need to say, I'm excited http://fennerschool-associated.anu.edu.au/mensuration/rwg2/code/gr/t-1-2.jpg |
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| 22:31.39 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:32.25 | drom | Ghel: Power output per second, correct? |
| 22:32.37 | Ghel | Energy output per second, which is power, yes. |
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| 22:35.05 | DrodoEmpire | hi |
| 22:35.08 | drom | Gee, that's lot |
| 22:35.17 | drom | ... I'm definitely going with that |
| 22:41.08 | The_Kaernk | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! |
| 22:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 22:45.06 | Hachiman | So I was watching a review for the movie World War Z and the reviewer takes a segment to focus on a particularly nonsensical part of the movie which can be easily missed on first viewing |
| 22:45.18 | Wormy_ | Oh? |
| 22:45.44 | Wormy_ | do tell |
| 22:45.47 | Hachiman | There is a scene where the main protagonist and a group of soldiers are in South Korea to investigate a potential cause and cure for the infection, and they come across an insane guy who is babbling to himself and proceeds to start pulling out his teeth with his fingers |
| 22:46.14 | Wormy_ | I vageully remember |
| 22:46.31 | Hachiman | Getting a grip on the teeth that would be required to bite other people with your fingers is actually incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to do even with grip assistance |
| 22:47.45 | Hachiman | And the reviewer demonstrates this by actually attempting to do it himself with his bare fingers at first, and then attempts to do so with a grip assistance cloth and is still unable to do it |
| 22:48.17 | Wormy_ | Well, the roots are connected to the bone I think, that's why the dentist uses a drill |
| 22:49.03 | Wormy_ | I've heard of stories where people have pulled out there own teeth though, including a man in a prison who was forced to eat shit and couldn't get the taste out of his mouth. Might have used a tool though |
| 22:49.38 | Wormy_ | Am I misunderstanding? He tried to pull out his own teeth with pliers to show how hard it is for the review? |
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| 22:49.54 | Wormy_ | Because that's hardcore |
| 22:49.55 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 22:50.10 | Hachiman | No, he used his fingers and then a dry cloth to attempt emulating what the character did in the movie to show how implausible it would be for the character to do it |
| 22:50.17 | Hachiman | As the character did it with his bare fingers |
| 22:50.46 | Wormy_ | I don't think one could pull out their own teeth unless they were already rotten to the core |
| 22:50.53 | Hachiman | Exactly |
| 22:51.07 | Hachiman | I attempted it myself just now and I was unable to get a firm enough grip to be able to feel like I could pull one out |
| 22:51.44 | Hachiman | The back teeth maybe but not the front teeth that a zombie would use to bite people, as the character believed that removing his front teeth would stop him from being able to infect other people if he turned |
| 22:52.03 | Wormy_ | I'm not even trying, I don't like the thought of the sensation even if it won't work |
| 22:52.12 | Ghel | Not that I doubt that it's incredibly difficult to pull one's own teeth out (it is highly important for them to remain in place after all), but anybody attempting to show how difficult it is in real life would have a vested interest in failing. |
| 22:54.04 | Hachiman | True but still |
| 22:54.31 | The_Kaernk | Maybe the character in the movie had poor dental hygiene, causing tooth decay and making them easier to pull out...? |
| 22:55.22 | Hachiman | I suppose that would make sense, I mean there was a cut of the character adding the tooth he freshly pulled out onto a tray with other teeth he had pulled out earlier |
| 22:55.34 | Hachiman | They did not look particularly healthy beyond being covered in blood |
| 22:58.11 | drom | Ghel Wormy: Let's see, what about sublight drives? They surely generate lots of hyperspace signature even when going under the speed of light? |
| 22:58.18 | Wormy_ | In my favourite zombie move, Braindead (or Dead Alive), one of the characters is a dentist and uses pliers to yank the teeth out of zombies. |
| 22:58.37 | Ghel | Unless they impart energy into hyperspace, no. |
| 22:58.38 | Wormy_ | Depends on the method of propulsion |
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| 22:59.28 | Ghel | Presumably the gravity of a moving object will have a weak hyperspace signal, but that's all. |
| 22:59.50 | Wormy_ | I'm not aware of any that would, unless we suggest the ones that function a bit like warp drives are a form of hyperspatial tech in some way. |
| 23:00.16 | Wormy_ | That might be very weak even for the best of sensors |
| 23:00.27 | Ghel | Oh, yeah. We can technobabble negative-mass technology to be actually hyperspatial. |
| 23:00.44 | Ghel | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
| 23:00.52 | Wormy_ | bye |
| 23:01.18 | drom | I guess giving space vessels sublight drives when not traveling long distances or making urgent jumps with hyperdrives, would just counter empires that relay on detection of hyperspatial signatures. |
| 23:05.25 | Hachiman | Another thing the reviewer points out is that there is a scene where a soldier gets bitten on the hand and Brad Pitt chops it off with a machete and waits 12 seconds to bandage it up and sterilize the wound, referencing a counting toy he was holding when he first saw an infection and transformation take place - even though in a previous scene, he was informed by professional soldiers it could take between 12 seconds to 10 minutes |
| 23:05.37 | Hachiman | *even though in a previous scene, he was informed by professional soldiers it could take between 12 seconds to 10 minutes |
| 23:06.14 | Hachiman | And then proceeds to bring the soldier onto a plane full of people not even five minutes after their bite |
| 23:13.23 | Wormy_ | drom: There's an advantage to vessels with sublight drives with or without FTL drives in all caes |
| 23:13.49 | Wormy_ | And that is that for a ship travelling ultra-relativistically, nothing is likely to catch it up |
| 23:15.24 | Wormy_ | An FTL vessel would still have to accelerate at the right trajectory, and use of warp or hyperdrive means it doesn't have to physically move very fast |
| 23:20.06 | Wormy_ | I'm going to use this idea to explain why the Draconians aren't Xeelee-level in scale now |
| 23:21.08 | Wormy_ | They escaped the Oikumene-Dracs in ultra-relativistic drives that saw them to a group of galaxies about 65 million light years away in a few generations, before developing FTL and returning. |
| 23:23.52 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 23:24.09 | OfficerJackal | DrodoEmpire: Loud and clear! |
| 23:24.59 | drom | I knew it would be a great idea to play all of Undertale's 100 soundstracks on random shuffle! Been going that for 6 hours straight now |
| 23:25.40 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 23:26.04 | Hachiman | I bet it feels just a little bit cheap knowing that a majority of the tracks on the OST are remixes |
| 23:26.29 | Hachiman | Which I suppose is kinda admirable actually since Toby did it in a large variety of ways |
| 23:27.05 | drom | Well you are not wrong: http://i.imgur.com/7rB3F8A.png |
| 23:30.51 | drom | funnily, I couldn't find any of the character-unique sounds effects for their dialogues |
| 23:32.15 | drom | And there is some non-music tracks, but still labelled as music with a mus_ prefix. |
| 23:32.57 | drom | That also means that I'll be able to hear Flowey's laughter once a while |
| 23:34.02 | drom | It really adds some odd anti-climax to the music |
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| 23:57.31 | Wormy_away | My favourite Precursor-themed Stargate tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEFKdCGNXM0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9N_ck7Ds6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaM5_RPsaAU |
