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02:40.03DrodoEmpireHi everyone
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08:16.20AGrayCathi
08:18.58Liquid_InkHey
08:21.51AGrayCathey!
08:24.12Liquid_InkHow are you?
08:31.09AGrayCathappy.
08:35.45Liquid_InkAlways a good thing
08:47.30AGrayCatlol
08:47.41AGrayCatwell
08:47.47AGrayCatmy chostvan soyuz page is extremely long
08:47.53AGrayCatand i haven't even written anything
08:47.58AGrayCatjust made hundreds of sections
08:49.16Liquid_InkPlanning is also a good thing.
08:49.33AGrayCatmhm
08:49.47AGrayCati have almost twenty five history sections
08:49.53AGrayCatand later more will be added as sub-sections
09:24.17AGrayCatjust reverted a new guys edits
09:24.18AGrayCati feel bad
09:24.20AGrayCat;-;
09:25.00Liquid_InkDid they need reverting?
09:27.55AGrayCatyes.
09:28.18AGrayCatHe added a reference to how the flying bomb was likely a reference to the V.1
09:28.23AGrayCatand not in a notes section.
09:28.39AGrayCatplus it probably isn't.
09:28.44AGrayCatits a darned mighty bomb
09:28.45AGrayCatnot a flying bomb
09:29.47Liquid_InkGhelae about to appear, I'm sure.
09:36.45AGrayCatEH?
09:36.57Liquid_InkMaybe not.
09:52.20AGrayCate
09:52.21AGrayCateh
09:52.31AGrayCatwant to say eh with me
09:52.41AGrayCateh i don't know
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09:53.24AGrayCateh
09:53.37Liquid_InkIt's not Ghelae, but close enough.
09:55.11Wormy_ghelae is ion titanpad
09:55.35Liquid_InkI know
09:56.48AGrayCatwhich one
09:58.00AGrayCatWhy can't I make a darn Spore account?
09:58.06AGrayCatanyways link to titanpad?
09:58.33AGrayCatlink me please
09:58.35AGrayCati have limited time.
09:59.09Wormy_Well https://titanpad.com/dmQctsSXGB
09:59.24Wormy_It is actually about redoing the Tigris War
09:59.36Wormy_I don't know how interesting you'll find it
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10:20.02GhelaeHello.
10:21.13Wormy_Bumbling Christian oppression of the Jedi http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34893762
10:35.36Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/4xVCB3s
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10:46.08JepardiHi
10:46.29GhelaeHello.
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10:51.08Wormy_hi
10:51.39OluapPlayerHi
10:52.39AGrayCatOluapPlayer:
10:52.49AGrayCatWhy close borealis?
10:53.18OluapPlayerBecause I've come to the conclusion I'm not willing to let people in
10:53.25AGrayCathm
10:53.33AGrayCati'll move out then.
10:57.00AGrayCatWhere should I move?
10:57.21Liquid_InkMirus?
10:57.59AGrayCathmm
10:58.02AGrayCatwould make sense
10:58.55AGrayCati really just don't know.
10:59.14AGrayCatAt this point I have two options: move out of the real fiction universe and into a separate universe, or move galaxies
11:00.32AGrayCatBut I'm pretty sure Borealis being closed is my fault, so I have to move out.
11:01.12Wormy_No, no it was closed for a long time.
11:01.20Liquid_InkDon't be so self indulgent.
11:02.18AGrayCateh?
11:02.45AGrayCatIf Borealis was closed because of my actions I should move out.
11:02.49AGrayCatI don't consider it self-indulgent.
11:03.10AGrayCatWormy_:  It is closed to everyone pretty much now. Apart from a few people.
11:03.51Liquid_InkSelf indulgent is assuming it's your fault.
11:04.07AGrayCatIt probably is though.
11:04.10Wormy_But it wasn't, so don't presume things.
11:04.13AGrayCatWho else moved in recently?
11:05.19OluapPlayerYou are not the sole reason
11:05.24Wormy_Oluap closed it pretty much from the beginning.  It his galaxy he can do what he wants with it.  I would suggest going to Mirus or Andromeda
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11:05.49AGrayCatSee.
11:05.53AGrayCatI'm not the sole reason.
11:05.58AGrayCatI'm one of a few reasons.
11:06.04AGrayCatIt was still my fault, so I should move!
11:06.12Wormy_How are you even partially a reason?
11:06.41Wormy_If it was already closed.
11:06.46AGrayCatIt wasn't.
11:06.52AGrayCatIt was permission required previously.
11:07.01OluapPlayerYou want more influence than I'm willing to give you, you'd do better somewhere else
11:07.08OluapPlayerAnd yes, Mirus and Andromeda are much better places
11:07.41OluapPlayerMirus especially, since it's completely open for everyone
11:08.46AGrayCatI've decided on Andromeda.
11:09.52AGrayCatsent a messae to imperios
11:09.54AGrayCatmessage
11:11.01AGrayCatI like Mirus.
11:11.05AGrayCatbut Andromeda...
11:11.56AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Councils_of_Xiliaan
11:11.59AGrayCatok i am no longer sealand
11:13.31AGrayCatWhat Tier would the Chostvan Soyuz be? Does anyone know?
11:14.31GhelaeThat depends entirely on what technology they have.
11:14.54AGrayCatpretty advanced
11:15.04AGrayCatwent to space over a millennium ago
11:15.44Ghelae"pretty advanced" is pretty vague
11:15.48GhelaeI'd guess Tier 2.
11:16.03AGrayCatWhat does each tier mean?
11:16.16Wormy_There are ways to have interstellartravel on the tier and not be very advanced
11:16.40AGrayCatmhmm
11:16.46Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:192744
11:16.47AGrayCatChostvans are extremely advanced however.
11:16.58AGrayCatyeah that won't help.
11:17.04AGrayCatthe essay didn't help the first time.
11:17.08AGrayCatneither will it today
11:17.14GhelaeWhy didn't it help?
11:17.26AGrayCatIt is basically an essay.
11:17.27GhelaeYou don't need to read the whole thing.
11:17.27AGrayCatNot a scale.
11:17.36Wormy_Did you scroll down to the actual scale?  You can skip the essay, for thats for users experienced with it
11:18.03AGrayCatmhm
11:18.26GhelaeThe actual scale does include descriptions of the tiers.
11:19.22AGrayCatmhm
11:19.33GhelaeSo... read them.
11:19.36AGrayCat"Established Hyperspatial"
11:19.48AGrayCatSounds extremely like the Soyuz, but that is Tier I...
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11:20.02Wormy__So if you have questions about it during or after reading, direct them here
11:20.07AGrayCatWould a Tier 2 slightly established hyperspatial civilization be alright?
11:20.31GhelaeIt should be. Read the description for Tier 2 and see if it fits.
11:20.46Wormy__Tier 2 is a revolution towards hyperspatial technology
11:21.25GhelaeNote that "hyperspatial technology" is more than just hyperspace travel.
11:21.26AGrayCatTier 2-1 then.
11:21.32AGrayCatmhm
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11:22.07Wormy___WTF is happening with my internet.
11:22.15AGrayCata collection of wormy clones
11:22.16AGrayCatdarn
11:22.22AGrayCatthey will take over the world soon
11:22.36AGrayCatthere goes one wormy
11:23.09GhelaeFortunately the appearance of one signifies the disappearance of another within four minutes.
11:23.51Wormy___test
11:24.08GhelaeYou're still here.
11:24.51Wormy___You probably didn't get my comment.  Tier 2 is a revolution in hyperspatial technology, but is itself a spectrum.
11:26.28Wormy___Typically a step above megastructural Tier 3 civilisation, using dyson swarms to power technology with far more energy than achievable previously.
11:27.00AGrayCathm
11:27.08AGrayCatChostvans are Tier 2-1.
11:28.11GhelaeSo high Tier 2?
11:28.49AGrayCatyou could say.
11:31.47AGrayCathow do I make a spore account?
11:32.00Wormy___The DCP barely qualifies for Tier 1, now I have read the scale again.
11:32.15Wormy___They are on that spectrum too, but the upper end of it
11:34.41GhelaeYou make a Spore account on Spore. I can't remember the process entirely but it can't be difficult.
11:38.15Wormy___http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Tier_Scale_V3
11:38.32Wormy___It can be useful to look at the races listed and judge their abilities.
11:38.37Wormy___I have to go
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11:48.06AdmiralPandahi all
11:48.59OluapPlayerHello
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12:09.31AGrayCathi
12:12.25Liquid_InkHello
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12:29.08AGrayCathi
12:32.32AGrayCatquestion
12:32.42AGrayCatWhat would T4 terrascore be?
12:35.04AGrayCatFew more questions
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12:41.10Wormy_awayT3  is the highest in the space stage meant to represent Earth-level.  Hypothetically, T4 would have to be even more conducive to life but its hard to imagine how a natural environment would be aside from artificial ones.
12:41.36Wormy_awayHypothetically, you could say the Creature stage is T4, because it has so many more creatures.
12:41.49ImpyDroidHei
12:41.54Wormy_awayhi
12:42.18ImpyDroidhttp://i.4cdn.org/pol/1448279720715.gif
12:42.19OluapPlayerHi Imp
12:42.44AGrayCatwho is impydroid?
12:42.45AGrayCatImperios?
12:42.57AGrayCathmm
12:43.06AGrayCatI had an idea for an extended TerraScore.
12:45.39AGrayCatalso
12:45.48AGrayCatWhat happens to canon creatures in the Fiction Universe?
12:46.13Wormy_awayMy reasoning is that Earth, contrary to popular belief is no Eden and throws constant challenges....  All natural environments with life would
12:46.46Wormy_awayBut Earth's biosphere is complex and maybe there are older, even more complex ones in the universe
12:47.35AGrayCatheh
12:47.45AGrayCatEarth is likely toxic for most life.
12:48.33Wormy_awayFor many bacteria and archaea, it is.
12:51.02Wormy_awayThe lifeforms that lived for nearly half the time life was on the Earth, retreated to less oxygenated environments (some extreme, others even in our bodies) when cynaobacteria started freeing up oxygen into the atmosphere
12:51.31Wormy_awayThe life we are used to is the tip of the iceberg
12:52.54Wormy_awaySo T4 I guess, would not necessarily have more life.  But more complex life and feedback mechanisms
12:54.02Wormy_away"What happens to canon creatures in the Fiction Universe?"  Creature stage life?  Fades  into nothing really unless they are brought into wildlife sections or pets
12:55.03ImpyDroidWormy_away: Superorganisms, perhaps?
12:55.40AGrayCatno
12:55.45AGrayCatLike the Maxis made creatures.
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12:55.58AGrayCatImpyDroid: Are you Imperios?
12:56.52Wormy_awayPossibly, but I'm thinking bigger.  There is a grain of truth to the idea that life and the non-living components of a planet are intimately connected.  Not making the whole planet alive, but supporting complicated life.  I.e. free oxygen in the atmosphere could have promoted the evolution of multicellular organisms.
12:58.30AGrayCat"Like the Maxis made creatures."
12:58.33AGrayCatWhat happens to em?
12:58.36Wormy_awayA more extreme example is that life creates a lot of clay sediment (through process of weathering or deposition), which lubricates the tectonic plates and speeds up that process.  Which speeds up the rate at which carbon sinks into the crust
12:59.28Wormy_awayMaxis-made creatures are still canon
12:59.36Wormy_awayThere's a page somewhere
13:01.15Wormy_awayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Maxis_Creations
13:01.47Wormy_away*sinks into the upper mantle
13:04.19Wormy_awaybbl
13:06.46AGrayCathmm
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13:34.43AGrayCatDrom
13:35.00dromHm?
13:41.00AGrayCathmm
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13:42.54dromYou wanted me something, AGrayCat?
13:43.24AGrayCatYes.
13:43.25AGrayCatAndasium.
13:43.55AGrayCataverage on how much the soyuz would mine
13:44.22AGrayCatright now G.N.R is on hold until i get some galaxy moving stuff cleared up
13:44.48TekDroidOh neat, new CGP Grey
13:46.20drom~wtf CGP
13:46.51TekDroidA YouTuber.
13:47.16dromAh
13:47.32TekDroidOne with a slow and inconsistent upload schedule that hadn't posted for two months. :P
13:49.27dromUploading youtube videos take an eternity
13:49.38dromAGrayCat: I've got no idea
13:49.51AGrayCateh
13:49.54AGrayCatshame
13:50.09dromDepends on their interest in industry, their interest in specializing in Andasium
13:50.49dromThey could be a refiner of Andasium, that's where the raw Andasium actually becomes useful.
13:51.12AGrayCatsounds good
13:51.21AGrayCatThe Soyuz is pretty much big on industry.
13:51.24AGrayCatThey have been since 1871.
13:53.46dromI don't really understand Soyuz' calendar
13:55.06AGrayCatok
13:55.12AGrayCatS.Y 1871 is standard year
13:55.18AGrayCatstandard year is terran year.
13:55.32AGrayCatmhm?
13:56.03AGrayCat1871 is Beginning R.Y
13:56.06AGrayCatR.Y is revolution year
13:56.45AGrayCatcurrent year is 933 R.Y
13:57.45AGrayCator today would be 144 R.Y
13:58.10AGrayCatthe entire thing is based off the paris commune
14:01.33dromI still fail to comprehend, sorry.
14:02.29AGrayCat1871 is the earth year.
14:02.38AGrayCatthat it was founded
14:02.49AGrayCatin the fiction universe today it is 2804
14:03.11AGrayCattime between is 933.
14:03.44dromThe present year is 2811 or 2812, if you use Tek's clock.
14:05.02AGrayCatTek/
14:06.27AGrayCattekdroid?
14:07.11dromHis normal name is "Tek0516", but he is usually mobile, since "TekDroid".
14:08.25AGrayCatI'm using 2804 as the current year for the wiki page.
14:08.31AGrayCatAlthough it goes into the future.
14:09.33TekDroid2804 is roughly one of the major plots, The Great Xonexian Schism, is at
14:09.44AGrayCathm
14:11.30TekDroidWell actually I think it's still mid-2803 for that
14:16.34AGrayCatoh hello tekky
14:16.46AGrayCatI'm using 2804 if you don't mind for my wiki page.
14:16.47AGrayCatDo you?
14:17.41AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets
14:17.43AGrayCat2 million systems.
14:17.44AGrayCateh.
14:18.14AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium
14:18.20AGrayCat23.7 freaking quadrillion?
14:18.38AGrayCathonestly
14:18.46AGrayCatthese 'superpowers' really won't work.
14:19.10AGrayCatand i thought i was pushing it with 180,000
14:19.19AGrayCatplanets moons and asteroids not even systems
14:22.00dromMy little program estimated that my fiction: Nomatari Sovereignty, would have circa 7,8e+18 population with the average population of 2 billion per system distributed outhrought 200'000 systems
14:22.42dromGranted, the model has flaws
14:24.08AGrayCat2 billion per system?
14:24.13AGrayCatseems a bit high
14:24.26AGrayCati was estimating more like 100,000 in some of my frontier systems
14:24.34AGrayCatthat is more than enough to sustain a mining colony
14:24.43AGrayCatalso
14:24.52AGrayCatHow do I make pop-up messages on my page?
14:25.05dromYou can't
14:25.26AGrayCatyou can
14:25.38AGrayCatthose little messages on the side of the page
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14:26.05AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic
14:26.17AGrayCatit is hiding under the wikia search bar though
14:26.23AGrayCatso you need to scroll down a bit to see it
14:26.34AGrayCati would like to make someone like it, but in a more visible place and different
14:26.37AGrayCatsomething
14:27.41drom<div style="position: fixed; top: 0px; left: 0px; padding: 3px; background: black; border: 1px solid red; color:yellow; z-index:2"><b>''The Soviet Supreme is welcoming you to the Glorious People's Republic!''</b></div>
14:27.52dromThat's the code used
14:28.07drombth, I'm not a fan of the idea
14:28.13dromtbh*
14:28.29AGrayCatwhy not/
14:28.39AGrayCatPopups are fun to direct people to pages
14:30.06dromI don't
14:30.13AGrayCatEh?
14:33.11AGrayCatWhich article will be featured in December?
14:33.17AGrayCatempire that is
14:35.02dromThey are nominated and then voted for
14:35.38AGrayCatI'm going to work to get the Soyuz on in time for December then!
15:02.45Wormy_awaydrom http://imgur.com/gallery/GMChPYR http://imgur.com/gallery/Y2GhK
15:04.27dromWormy_away: my favorite error from the last software company I worked for: "The last operation completed successfully. This error should not occur."
15:05.41dromWormy_away: I'm thinking of overusing fusion reactors as the Nomatari Sovereignty's main source of power
15:11.43Wormy_awayDid you find out what it means?
15:12.38Wormy_awayAlso, cool
15:14.22OluapPlayerWormy_away: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6f/Entropic_Dalek.png/revision/latest?cb=20151123145149 be afraid
15:14.24dromWormy_away: I know what fusion is, I already learned about it years and years ago. But I think it's a bit underrated. And perhaps the very pausible energy source in SCI-FI
15:14.47Wormy_awaynow that's awesome
15:15.03dromFusion reactors are often predicted as one among the most effective sources of energy.
15:15.31dromOluapPlayer: Viking Dalek
15:15.54dromAlso, Wormy_away: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/reactionlessdrive/propulsion.jpg
15:16.13Wormy_awayForbidden
15:17.05dromUh? I can see it
15:18.12dromWormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/QDxKmLN.png
15:19.30Wormy_awaynow thats anachronistic
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15:20.47HachimanHai
15:20.49Wormy_awaydrom:  Consider things like monopole and antimatter-catalysed fusion though, ways of increasing the amount of matter than is converted
15:20.51OluapPlayerand buni
15:21.43Wormy_awayHachiman, Oluap, dom https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CUcMWHRWIAAn46I.mp4
15:21.48Wormy_awaydrom
15:22.04Hachimanolol
15:22.27Wormy_awayhttp://rubmint.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/06d77_dating-fails-dating-fails-know-the-signs.jpg  well said http://imgur.com/gallery/4xVCB3s
15:22.30dromWormy_away: So, what do you mean with that?
15:22.35dromAll I need is energy
15:23.11OluapPlayerhur I've seen that before
15:23.47dromIsn't the EMDrive a reactionless drive?
15:24.47Wormy_awayIn nuclear fusion reactions, only very tiny amounts of the mass is actually converted into energy (like a few percent at best)
15:25.02Wormy_awayAntimatter, as you know, is 100%
15:25.50Wormy_awayThere are some ways the fusion reaction could be improved.  Free monopoles are believed to catalyse the decay of protons in atomic nuclei
15:28.13Wormy_awayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Efficiency
15:28.50Wormy_awayIf the EMdrive can even exist as its proponents speculate, it is not truly reactionless.
15:31.18Wormy_awayThey argue that is not, but the explanation dubious so still essentially magic
15:34.20Wormy_awayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_resonant_cavity_thruster#Theory
15:36.22Wormy_awayI really hope something like the EM drive can be built
15:36.43Wormy_awaybut they need to demonstrate a control that also doesn't show the same effects
15:37.07Wormy_awayand remove thermal noise etc.
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15:37.34AGrayiPadHi
15:38.42dromWell. Recently, NASA has built a prototype and tested it. It turns out to be working since it gained a fractal of thrust. But there are however still doubts over if the results are true or reliable or not.
15:39.21Wormy_awayThat's what I'm talking about
15:39.42Wormy_awayTheir control unfortunately demonstrated the same effect!
15:40.22dromWhen it is all true, then we'd have to rewrite the physicis
15:40.48Wormy_awaySome results came recently where they were anle to remove some sources of error, and they are going to publish a paper soon.  Hopefully we will learn if they have fixed this
15:42.22Wormy_awayas true civilian justice http://imgur.com/gallery/cyVRr2J
15:42.24Wormy_away*ah
15:44.56dromThe rocketpunk site has no paper on energy sources
15:44.57dromgrrr
15:52.02Wormy_awayOrion's Arm goes into about every pleasible power source.
15:52.06Wormy_awayplausible
15:54.58Wormy_awaydrom:  This site is old but really good http://www.orbitalvector.com/
15:55.04Wormy_awayfor sci-fi tech
16:01.33dromsweet
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16:34.59Wormy_awaydrom:  When I import an FBX file into Blender, not the materials are appearing (but they render) properly and I'm getting a white model.  Unfortunately, that means when I export to JSON for web, I get the same
16:35.06Wormy_away*none
16:37.22dromWormy_away: Consider exporting the model to waveform object before importing it to Blender
16:37.37dromThat however means that you have to copy the materials/textures separately
16:44.52AGrayCathi
16:45.18Wormy_awayI think something is wrong with the way files are being exported actualy
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16:54.21drom_fucking gunk
17:00.18drom"son of a colon sucker"
17:02.33dromHachiman: "BALD SPERM KNOB"
17:02.40Hachimanhur
17:02.59dromThe best so far, Hachiman: "nut amputee"
17:06.46dromHachiman: Or how about "scrotrum amputee"?
17:07.16HachimanBoth are pretty good
17:08.46drom"glorified warwax stain"
17:09.22dromaka Shrek
17:13.42drom"you errant elf-skinned clack-dish"
17:17.16dromEnough of expletives, I've ruined my respiratory system
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17:47.55OluapPlayerspu
17:48.25Xhou
17:49.58XhoSo upon having considerable facial hair I look like either           1) A jihadi            2) The lost Tsarnaev brother
17:50.19OluapPlayerhur
17:51.22XhoBasically I look like a terrorist
17:51.34XhoNo wonder I was security searched in Paris so many times when I went earlier in the year
17:51.52OluapPlayerkek
17:52.08Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:The_Entropic_Dalek u fukn srs
17:52.12Xhodemonic traschan alien
17:52.32drom"traschan" sounds more expletive than "trashcan"
17:53.03XhoOH GOD I'M TURNING CHECHEN
17:53.30OluapPlayerYes, I'm srs
17:54.08XhoKrath - servant is more perfectionist than i am                                                                        gigaquadrant needs reset
17:54.19dromSpeaking of random searches. My mom was once given a random search at a security control, later at the passport checkout, they told her "can you read the sign? Swedish passports only" - she is 100% Swedish and has a Swedish passport.
17:56.00dromWhen my dad was in Brussel, police filed a random search on him, asking him if he is working or has worked with explosives. They even pulled on his fingers, toes, arms and legs by one and one.
17:56.07dromAll the same year
17:56.40XhoBloody swedes
17:56.49AGrayCatwhy
17:57.51dromWho knows. The Brussel one was one-two days after the Paris attacks, so it was a very resonable thing.
17:59.24dromOh. On before our flight back to Sweden, the TSA checked both my parents' handluggage, two times.
18:00.37dromIt's like they are thinking that Sweden is working with the Islamist extremeists.
18:02.58dromWhat has humanity become?
18:04.18XhoGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
18:05.17dromoh no, Xho thinks homo is haram
18:05.28XhoALLAHU AKBAR
18:05.58OluapPlayerget super mutant suicider'd
18:06.01XhoThe government is probably watching this and I'm gonna get arrested tomorrow for inciting Islamic hatred
18:06.22XhoJust to clarify; my ancestors were most likely Hindu
18:07.00XhoI think I'm gonna start up another playthrough of Fallout 4
18:07.16OluapPlayerhao bout u get bak to editin fiction
18:07.19XhoI kinda went one dimensional with the storyline so I didn't get much out of it other than purging everyone
18:07.24AGrayCathi
18:08.28Wormy_awayMy paranoia is running off on people.
18:08.31OluapPlayerfinish dragon speeker
18:08.33OluapPlayerand abyssus paeg
18:08.35Xhopwedrogkdjf
18:08.52dromWormy_away: ELI5 how can we make a fusion reactor with monopole and antimatter?
18:09.22Wormy_awaydo i look like an engineer
18:09.27AGrayCatHow much Andasium should I have?
18:09.28Wormy_awayjk
18:10.08dromWormy_away: ELI5 = Explain Like I'm Five
18:10.45Wormy_awayI'm going to need to remind myself, I'll have it soon.
18:11.35AGrayCat"How much Andasium should I have?"
18:11.38Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12241635_1706725802883005_1610782285161462268_n.png?oh=723dba823e239b837ffeb37a11f0bde8&oe=56EB32E6
18:14.00AGrayCatCharles_Murray:
18:14.43AGrayCatrighty-o
18:14.46AGrayCatI'll add it.
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18:15.23GhelaeHello.
18:16.44AGrayCathi
18:17.26Charles_MurrayAGrayCat : What do you mean?
18:17.51AGrayCatHow many Andasium should I process?
18:17.53AGrayCatmuch
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18:19.11OluapPlayerHi
18:19.34Wormy_drom:  Monopoles predicted by Grand Unified Theories will catalyse the decay of nuclei in plasma, releasing enough energy to induce fusion.  Its safer to control than an antimatter reactor.
18:20.31Wormy_hi
18:20.48Charles_MurrayWell, how much andasium you can refine is based on how much raw andasium your fiction can reasonably process per day. In turn, this is affected by all sorts of factors from size, population, wealth, resources, labor, infrastructure, location, etc, etc.
18:22.09OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEOmqGml-OY MEDIC IS DEAD
18:22.10Charles_MurrayWhat kind of economy you're using is another big one, as well as your policies towards the market and towards andasium refinement as a whole.
18:22.20AGrayCatPolicies?
18:22.30AGrayCatImagine one darned big planned economy when it comes to mining.
18:22.54AGrayCatheck the entire reasons the chostvans went for space stuff in the first place was FOR mining pretty much
18:23.03Charles_MurrayWhat kind of planned economy?
18:23.41AGrayCathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn but with MUCH MUCH MUCH more advanced technology
18:26.02Wormy_drom:  But essentially, the idea behind 'boosting' the fusion reaction would be to control it with baryon-GUT monopole interactions.
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18:26.44AGrayCatHowever, foreign companies are allowed to mine for resources.
18:26.58AGrayCat(but limited to strict regulations and only allowed to mine on some colonies)
18:27.10AGrayCat'on' actually wouldn't be the right word
18:27.14AGrayCat'around' would be.
18:27.15Charles_MurrayAGrayCat : Alright, that makes sense. And it's actually fairly cool. You said your fiction was almost entirely centered around andasium mining?
18:27.23dromCharles_Murray AGrayCat: You need a big darn mining economy to run a refinement business. You can import the raw materials required
18:27.54dromAlso, you might like this, Charles_Murray: http://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/
18:27.58Charles_MurrayYeah, refinement and mining are two very different things
18:28.18Wormy_You also don't need all the added technology required to store and inject amatter
18:29.03Charles_Murraydrom : No economist says that trade creates jobs :o
18:29.50AGrayCatMining and refinement of Andasium is a big part of the economy.
18:29.59dromAmerican lobbyists do, Charles_Murray.
18:30.13Charles_MurrayYes, I'm well aware.
18:31.05Charles_MurrayBut they aren't economist.
18:31.08AGrayCatAndasium mining is a by-product of the large mining colonies set up in the extremely late 19th Century.
18:31.10Charles_Murrayeconomists*
18:31.15AGrayCatand the century after that
18:31.17AGrayCatand so on
18:31.46AGrayCatAndasium refinement a by-product of the industrial hubs set up as part of the Voyageur program.
18:32.38Charles_MurrayUnderstood. Link me to your fiction?
18:32.39dromCharles_Murray: I actually like this explaination of the TPP
18:32.56dromIt also helps me to understand the concepts of economy and international trading
18:33.05AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chostvan_Soyuz_(Gigaquadrant)
18:33.26AGrayCatNot done yet, obviously.
18:33.26Charles_Murraydrom : It's really not accurate at all
18:33.56Charles_MurrayIt distorts concepts and the relationships between them, and takes mechanics out of context.
18:34.33Charles_Murrayi.e., cherrypicking parts of the equation which sound bad but which are balanced by other mechanics which make the whole thing quite benign.
18:34.50dromCharles_Murray: Hm, keep in mind that the TPP treaty is absurdly long and is incomprehendisble to laymen
18:34.55Charles_Murray(not in the sense that it is positive, but in that it's better than all of the alternatives, which are harmful.)
18:35.54Charles_MurrayI'll take a look at it, but keep in mind that if it is incomprehensible (all it really does iirc is break down trade barriers between countries, which is easy to do) it means that its opponents can also just make up bad things about it.
18:36.01Charles_MurrayWhich is what this comic is doing.
18:37.16AGrayCatCharles_Murray: How much would the Soyuz produce then?
18:37.43Charles_MurrayAGrayCat : Given the number of planets in the Giquadrant, I'd say they'd be able to mine and refine around 100-200 trillion kilotons of Andasium per day.
18:38.11AGrayCat907 planets producing that much?
18:38.40AGrayCatpretty much all the colonies in the gigaquadrant are based towards refinement of resources.
18:38.42AGrayCatvery few aren't.
18:38.55Charles_MurrayYeah, that's already a lot
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18:39.11AGrayCatmhm.
18:39.38AGrayCatAny way to up the number to become a top ten producer?
18:39.59AGrayCatI was envisioning a large mining and refinement industry.
18:40.15AGrayCatAlso, current status of self-aware computers in the fiction universe?
18:40.36GhelaeAIs are very common in the fictionverse.
18:40.41Charles_MurrayInstead of dividing up your resources between mining and refining, you could stack it all into refining and import your andasium, or stack it all into mining and export to refining countries.
18:41.08GhelaeAnd by "AI" that includes emergent intelligences as well as computers designed to be sapient.
18:41.18AGrayCathmm
18:41.19Charles_MurrayYou might be able to make it into the top ten refiners that way, but not in mining.
18:41.23dromCharles_Murray: What the TPP's name implies that it does indeed break down barriers, but giving corporates more freedom and a stronger free market can in end suffocate nations affected by this.
18:41.38AGrayCatOkay, I'll put all my resources into refinement.
18:41.43AGrayCatHow much could I refine then?
18:42.05dromI mean, give a corporation the rights to relocate wherever as they please. They will take the advantage of this by moving to a "tax-free paradise".
18:42.10Charles_MurrayGiven the number I just gave you, you could probably refine somewhere in the 300-400's range.
18:42.14dromwill -> can*
18:42.33Charles_Murraydrom : Keep in mind, they already have the power to do that, and they do.
18:42.49Charles_MurrayAnd they tend to move to countries with fewer restrictions on trade.
18:43.05Charles_Murray(and a lower corporate and operational tax, etc)
18:43.08Charles_MurrayHence, breaking down trade barriers.
18:43.11AGrayCatquestion:
18:43.21AGrayCatWhy am I ranking lower than the Popular Republic then?
18:43.50Charles_MurrayWhat do you mean?
18:44.14AGrayCatThey produce 701 and have 30,000 planets.
18:44.42AGrayCatseems a bit eh
18:44.45Charles_MurrayWhereas the Soyuz have 900.
18:44.57AGrayCatmhm
18:45.17Charles_MurrayIt then makes perfect sense for the Popular Republic to produce more?
18:45.18AGrayCatbut below them the goddamn polar crystal alliance only have 685
18:46.33Charles_MurrayThe Polar Crystal Alliance as a whole is a net andasium exporter. You'll notice they're #3 on the mining list, and are also (I assume) strong in other sectors of the economy.
18:47.07Charles_MurrayThe APR is highly focused on andasium, alongside pharmaceuticals and weapon export.
18:47.10AGrayCathmmhmm
18:47.39AGrayCatpoint conceded bud.
18:48.23Charles_Murray452 is a bit higher than 300-400
18:49.04Charles_MurrayYou can definitely increase that number as you go along, but Sporewiki generally recommends you start out small and work your way up
18:51.09XhoANDASIUM IS FOR THE WEAK, RANDOM UNEXPLAINED POWER SOURCES FTW
18:51.24OluapPlayerget banned
18:51.55dromCharles_Murray: Yes, but it also breaks down even more barriers... But I'm concerned if the statement "reduced barriers gives companies more sovereignty, enabling the ability to sue their country if they don't like the law".
18:52.04dromis true
18:52.53Charles_Murraydrom : "Trade barriers" refers to tariffs, regulations, and subsidies. Usually, free trade deals focus almost exclusively on tariffs, which are taxes on foreign imports.
18:53.09AGrayCatalso
18:53.11AGrayCatsecond reminder
18:53.19Charles_MurrayThese taxes are actually very harmful for the economy because they help domestic industries to the detriment of taxpayers and consumers.
18:53.23AGrayCatG.N.R is on hold for now due to galaxy moving problems.
18:53.54Charles_MurraySo if anything, removing tariffs -hurts- special interests, and -helps- consumers on the whole.
18:54.06AGrayCatalso Charles, would you like to send a transmission to the Soyuz?
18:54.14Charles_MurrayWhat about?
18:57.00AGrayCatTrade preferably.
18:57.17Charles_MurrayRegulations are good because they protect consumers, but often countries impose -unfair- regulations on foreign business. For example, German cars which do 100 mpg are categorically banned from being sold in the United States for "safety reasons," whereas the 50 mpg model is perfectly welcome. This distorts the market inside the country, keeps the auto industry from having to invest in more efficient cars, and hurts consum
18:57.27AGrayCatembassies being established would also be good.
18:57.52Charles_MurraySo regulations that are fair are generally applied evenly to foreign and domestic companies so nobody is disadvantaged.
18:58.21Charles_MurrayI'll see what I can do
18:59.09dromCharles_Murray: Hm whatta bout this? http://economixcomix.com/wp-content/uploads/Free-Trade-pg272.jpg
19:00.30dromCharles_Murray: And oh, there is even a post dedicated to this. https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3az0fa/eli5_what_does_the_tpp_transpacific_partnership/
19:03.20Charles_Murraydrom : Keep in mind that there are -tons- of very very very very cheap stuff all over the place now, much more than there was before. Food is cheaper, clothes are mass-produced and cheaper, even though the expensive stuff is still out there (which is generally the stuff we want). Sneakers generally profit from the power of their brand, and thus people are willing to pay more for those sneakers.
19:03.50Charles_Murray(Quick note: If they're that expensive, that means people are -BUYING- them. If people couldn't pay, the price would be lower or the company wouldn't be making money.)
19:04.31Charles_MurrayBut generally what goes into the cost of living that people have seen skyrocket over the past forty years is the price of -homes-, and that's a whole other ballgame entirely.
19:05.29Charles_Murray(Plus, if you can't afford Nike shoes, there are tons of companies which sell them extremely cheaply. They just won't have the Nike symbol on them.)
19:07.58dromBranding is just a way to denote which company they belong to (which company produce these), it eases the identification and allows people to know if they are buying quality items or not.
19:08.19dromAlas, some companies charge extra just for the branding
19:08.28Charles_Murray^
19:08.38Charles_MurrayAnd people refuse to buy anything that isn't of a specific brand
19:08.51Charles_MurrayFor example, my sister refuses to wear anything that isn't Calvin Klein.
19:08.53Charles_MurrayGo branding
19:09.04dromDesign branding too
19:09.09Charles_MurrayAdvertising and peer pressure.
19:09.36AGrayCatpeer pressure?
19:09.53AGrayCatnottt a very good thing.
19:10.00AGrayCatAnyways
19:10.01AGrayCatEconomics, eh?
19:10.15Charles_MurrayYeah, I have a background in political science and economics.
19:10.18dromAGrayCat: Your friends are peers. When you are telling you buy a iPhone, then they are "peer pressure"-ing you to buy a iPhone
19:10.26dromWhen they are*
19:10.35AGrayCati know what it is buddy.
19:10.38AGrayCatI'm saying it ain't good.
19:11.12dromAdverstising is a way to induce peer pressure
19:11.45Charles_Murraygtg
19:11.54dromAlso, remember when Coca Cola financed a study that said that drinking soda isn't unhealthy?
19:13.51dromWormy_: Charles_Murray wanted to talk about GXS stuff with me and you
19:14.03dromJust FYI, be prepared for such discussion
19:15.44Wormy_I might be a while.  Having trouble exporting materials.
19:18.19dromGAH MOTHERFUCKING SHIT
19:18.53AGrayCatOpinions on Saudi Arabia everyone?
19:19.11dromtoo haram
19:19.35AGrayCatserious opinions?
19:20.56HachimanNothing too strong
19:22.21dromNone of my business
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19:26.21AdmiralPandawe sold sand to their neighbours and that's kinda funny, but that's about all my thoughts in that regard
19:26.46AGrayCatImperiTablet
19:26.49AGrayCati sent yer a message
19:26.57ImperiTabletHi
19:27.07ImperiTabletAdmiralzpanda
19:27.49ImperiTabletAdmiralPanda: Selling sand to West Africans, am I correct?
19:28.05AdmiralPandathe Sahara region in general, yeah
19:28.08dromHachiman Wormy_ Xho: Classic! http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/larkhall-residents-erect-sign-telling-isis-to-f-k-off-1-3954771
19:28.34AdmiralPandaconstruction material sand, as I'm sure you're aware
19:29.00ImperiTabletYeah
19:29.17ImperiTabletTheirs is apparently unsuitable for building
19:29.21HachimanI was wondering why Australia would need to sell sand to the Middle East
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19:30.04AGrayCatImperiTablet reply ?
19:30.24ImperiTablet*unsuited
19:30.36AdmiralPandaours just has a more suitable mineral composition for use in concrete e.t.c.
19:30.54AdmiralPandait also comes in seven funky colours depending on where you mine it from
19:32.03dromI remember when Sweden sold weapons to Saudi Arabia
19:32.24ImperiTabletI kinda pity West Africans
19:33.38ImperiTabletAs far as I know they traditionally built their houses from fucking MUD
19:34.00AdmiralPandathey traditionally build their houses from mud because that's what they've got available to traditionally build their houses from
19:34.13ImperiTabletThat is what I am saying
19:34.53AdmiralPandaalso, you look at things like the Great Mosque of Djenne and suddenly you see mud differently as a building material
19:34.59dromYeah, there are also civilizations (although primarly tribes and other societies disconnected from the world) in africa that still build their residences from twigs.
19:35.03ImperiTabletAdmittedly they are good at building from mud
19:35.17ImperiTablet...I was about to mention Djenne hur
19:35.43ImperiTabletYes they are pretty resourceful if you think about it
19:38.06AGrayCatImperiTablet, are ya ignoring meh?
19:38.20ImperiTabletgimme a sec
19:38.22dromAlso here's a satire of the Swedish trade of weapons in Saudi: http://www.maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Svensk-demokratiexport.jpg --- "Here! Just promise to be more democratic."
19:38.22AGrayCatyay
19:39.49ImperiTabletI have nothing in Mirus
19:40.10Wormy_Imperios:  My house is old and bound by horse hair
19:40.37Wormy_You can see horse hairs sticking out of the walls when you strip paint off
19:41.27AGrayCatsorry imperitablet
19:41.29AGrayCatI meant Andromeda.
19:41.36AGrayCatCould yer help me integrate?
19:41.38ImperiTabletAndromeda sure
19:41.50ImperiTabletProblem is it is essentially stuck in limbo
19:42.28ImperiTabletMonet left, I do not have time to work on it, Hachi has moved on
19:43.17dromWormy_: I've a neighbor who did a total make over of an abandoned and worn house on his property, he keep the facades and used tons of grass (steralized and then coated with concrete and plaster) to isolate the walls.
19:43.51dromHe later removed the rotting facaded and replaced with new modern isoluation and new planks.
19:44.34ImperiTabletWormy_: Okay Brits are probably pretty resourceful too
19:47.50Wormy_my house was made in the 1890s or whatever, so yes
19:48.53Wormy_I remember reading there were people making a living, shovelling shit washed up from the Thames
19:49.05Wormy_back then
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19:53.53AGrayCatso
19:53.57AGrayCatwhat galaxy should i move to
19:54.23HachimanTry Milky Way
19:54.50AGrayCatdoing that
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19:59.45AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draekar_Remnant
19:59.55AGrayCatHow did they put their nation name at the top in Spore letters?
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20:01.34AGrayCatTek
20:01.53AGrayCatdo you know how they did the lettering at the top?
20:01.56AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draekar_Remnant
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20:04.58GhelAGrayCat: Go to "edit this page" to see what code they used.
20:05.04AGrayCatuhuh
20:06.00Technobliteratorthey...totally stole my layout and made a worse mess of it ._.
20:06.32AGrayCatwhat
20:06.48AGrayCati made my own version
20:06.51AGrayCatlooks ugly though
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20:07.32AGrayCathullo tekdroid
20:08.20Technobliteratorugh
20:08.22Technobliteratorwtf
20:08.27Technobliteratoris the code on that page
20:08.29Technobliteratorthat is awful
20:09.39OluapPlayeryoo is awful
20:09.58AGrayCatmuh page?
20:10.02AGrayCat;-;
20:12.48AGrayCatWhen do candidates close for the December Featured Empire?
20:13.02OluapPlayerAt december
20:14.42dromThat's when Cyrannian comes and starts taking nominations
20:14.54dromHe is the actual person in charge of the polls
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20:18.56AGrayCatwhat time in december
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20:20.54GhelWhenever Cyr does it. But usually between one and two weeks into the month.
20:22.09dromIt has however happened that he let others to take the responsibility on some occassions.
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20:27.57dromWormy left
20:27.58dromdamn
20:28.16dromI needed him for directions about production of antimatter
20:29.20dromGhel: Do you happen to know how would NS, assumed that it has the technology level as DCP, produce antimatter that they can then use for their antimatter-induced fusion reactors?
20:29.33AGrayCatNS?
20:29.57dromNomatari Sovereignty
20:30.11GhelParticle colliders in solar orbit e.g. as dyson swarm elements. Harvest it from the magnetic fields of gas giants.
20:30.30dromHm, makes sense
20:30.33GhelActually, with DCP tech you could just use Q-balls to turn matter into antimatter.
20:37.03dromGhel: Wormy and me talked about using monopoles as catalyst in an fusion reactor. Using it in an antimatter fusion reactor would still the same thing, except more safer and effective?
20:38.09GhelNot really. Monopoles and antimatter basically do a similar thing: they annihilate protons to increase the temperature of the plasma.
20:38.35GhelThe difference is that monopoles catalyse the reaction and can continue to do so, while antimatter is immediately annihilated.
20:39.38dromAh, so simply a catalysted fusion reactor is more safe and cost-effective compared to an antimatter reactor?
20:40.14GhelDefinitely more effective. But neither antimatter nor monopoles are things you want to escape from the reactor.
20:41.30dromSo if I am reading this correctly, a "catalysted antimatter fusion reactor" is just worse?
20:42.14Ghel"Antimatter-catalysed" is a misnomer. That's just using antimatter to start off a fusion reaction; there's no actual catalysis since the antimatter is all used up.
20:43.45dromI meant using antimatter as fuel and an monopole mineral/material as a fusion catalyst
20:43.50dromboth combined
20:44.29GhelRight. I don't think that would be useful, but it's probably not worse.
20:45.17dromWormy said that using antimatter as fuel makes the mass->energy conversion ratio 100% compared to other fuel which is usually merely 15%
20:45.19GhelIt might bring the reactor up to temperature more quickly than using monopoles on their own, but I would think we're talking about incredibly short timescales here anyway.
20:46.03GhelYes; when matter and antimatter annihilate, then it's possible for all of their mass-energy to be released. In other reactions, you still have massive particles left over and so energy will remain trapped as mass.
20:47.18GhelWhether matter and antimatter *will* produce only massless byproducts is another detail; electron-position annihilations are fairly tidy (but you should still expect to lose some energy as neutrinos), while proton-antiproton collisions are just very messy.
20:47.35dromHm, perhaps we could use antimatter as the equivalent of fuel ignition system found in cars. Except it revs up the reactor to a status of operation almost instanteously
20:47.52GhelI believe that is the idea behind using antimatter in fusion reactors.
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20:48.28GhelHello.
20:48.33DrodoEmpireHi everyone
20:48.33dromhai
20:48.35DrodoEmpireHi
20:53.11Gheldrom: Monopole catalysis is a similar idea in that it essentially makes protons annihilate with themselves. Ideally there'd only be photons and positrons left over, and those positrons could annihilate with electrons in the plasma, but again you'll lose some energy to neutrinos.
20:53.45dromGrrr stupid neutrinos
20:54.32XhoEvery time I come back to the IRC it's about particle physics
20:55.02Ghel~shoot Xho
20:55.05infobotACTION shoots Xho in the foot with a phase pistol!
20:55.08Ghelthere have some particles
20:56.23AGrayCat~shoot Ghel
20:56.23infobotACTION shoots Ghel in the foot with a spitwad!
20:56.34AGrayCat~shoot Ghel
20:56.34infobotACTION shoots Ghel in the foot with a cork gun!
20:56.53AGrayCat~shoot AGrayCat
20:56.53infobotACTION shoots AGrayCat in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon!
20:56.57GhelI got the wrong command and by sheer chance infobot went with a particle weapon.
20:57.12AGrayCat~slap
20:57.12infobotACTION thinks agraycat should be slapped
20:57.17AGrayCat~slap infobot
20:57.17infobotACTION slaps infobot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:57.35dromDon't popullate the channel with infobot, please.
20:57.38DrodoEmpireDon't overuse infobot
20:57.46DrodoEmpireA little bothersome is all
20:57.57AGrayCatThey only come out of hiding every now and then though :(
20:57.57HachimanMore like fucking irritating
20:58.01AGrayCathah
20:58.32dromGhel: There must be a good use of neutrinos?
20:58.43DrodoEmpireCalm down Hachi...
20:58.44DrodoEmpire:p
20:58.54AGrayCathey look
20:59.01AGrayCatwe are in the first 5 results of infobot abuse
20:59.02AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:191343
20:59.27GhelThe problem with neutrinos is just they they interact so weakly. They can travel through the entire Earth without hitting an atom. In the rare case they do hit an atom they can provide energy, but your problem is with catching them all.
20:59.33dromThe only I can see is "neutrino detection" - an application that helps engineers to monitor the reaction
21:01.21Technobliteratornot like anyone cares for infobot anyway
21:01.24Technobliteratorit's pretty crap
21:01.33AGrayCatDon't offend the bot!
21:01.40DrodoEmpireslaps Technobliterator around a bit with a large fishbot
21:01.53GhelNeutrino detection is, again, a case of catching as many neutrinos as you can.
21:01.56dromThat stupid fishbot command
21:02.08DrodoEmpireslaps drom around a bit with a large fishbot
21:02.12dromkicks DrodoEmpire out through a window
21:02.14Hachimanslaps drom around a bit with a large fishbot
21:02.15AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: Why do you slap the carp with the fish?
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21:02.38AGrayCateh
21:03.09dromDrodoEmpire Hachiman: YOU ALL POPULLATE MY LOGS WITH FISHBOT
21:04.11dromAdmiralPanda: Techno is actually a magikarp.
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21:04.42AdmiralPandaWhy would you insult a wonderful pokemon like that?
21:05.02AGrayCatso
21:05.05dromBecause it deserves better than so
21:05.14AGrayCatDoes anyone want to talk about my articles and their futures?
21:05.21DrodoEmpireSure
21:05.23DrodoEmpireLink them?
21:06.26AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chostvan_Soyuz_(Gigaquadrant)
21:06.50AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Glistennaen_National_Republics
21:06.54AGrayCatonly ones so far
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21:07.34DrodoEmpireRight rigth
21:07.37DrodoEmpireNow the first one
21:07.44dromGhel: If Monopole-catalysted antimatter [fusion] reactor (in terms of using antimatter than helium as fuel) is more cost-effective than a monopole-catalysted fusion reactor, then I'm sticking to the first.
21:07.58DrodoEmpireNot sure if a fiction can be located primarily outside of the Gigaquadrant
21:08.15Gheldrom: Using antimatter as fusion fuel is going to be no better than using matter as fusion fuel.
21:08.28DrodoEmpireAs I'm under the impression that the rest of the universe was either annihilated in a cataclysmic event, or is otherwise unreachable
21:08.33AGrayCatI'm using a slight loophole-that-isn't-a-loophole
21:08.37DrodoEmpireOh?
21:08.40AGrayCatinvolving pocket universes
21:08.41DrodoEmpireCleared by who?
21:08.44DrodoEmpireEhh
21:08.50GhelIt's also going to be more difficult to acquire antimatter than hydrogen and helium.
21:08.57DrodoEmpireI'm not sure if that'
21:09.05DrodoEmpire*that's allowed... I'd check I guess
21:09.11DrodoEmpireI don
21:09.20AGrayCatThe only parts I plan to use in the actual fiction universe are the gigaquadrant colonies.
21:09.22dromGhel: Antimatter for reaction ignition, like a fuel ignition in a car engine?
21:09.27AGrayCatThe rest is my own universe.
21:09.31DrodoEmpire*don't want to trample on what you have already but I'd discuss with some older users
21:09.36Tek0516AGrayCat: maybe my math is off, but... "with 207 colonies (planets, moons, and asteroids) in the Gigaquadrant. 709 of the colonies are in the Mirus Galaxy, and 198 in the Milky Way Galaxy."
21:09.51dromI mean, use it to start the reaction, not as an element to keep the reaction running.
21:09.54DrodoEmpireSo is this rest of the universe a completely different writing universe?
21:10.00AGrayCat907.
21:10.03AGrayCatYes.
21:10.12DrodoEmpireRight right
21:10.13DrodoEmpireOkay
21:10.21DrodoEmpireThat's good by me then
21:10.22AGrayCattad bit fuzzy on how it works
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21:10.44DrodoEmpireI'm pretty liberal about this sorta thing so you do your thing
21:10.46JepardiHi
21:10.49Gheldrom: That could work, but I don't think there's any point if you're including monopoles. I don't know all the maths but I doubt you'd be getting more than nanoseconds of an advantage.
21:10.51DrodoEmpireHi
21:11.11AGrayCatmhm
21:12.33AGrayCatreally
21:12.36AGrayCatI'll be honest with you all.
21:13.14DrodoEmpireYes?
21:13.26AGrayCatChostva is my pet project from somewhere else, that I'm putting here in the far-future as a writing project about what it would like in 2804.
21:13.38DrodoEmpireAhh...
21:13.39DrodoEmpireThat
21:13.48DrodoEmpire*That's cool
21:14.53dromGhel: Right I'm sticking to traditional fusion reactors with monopole catalytes
21:15.03AGrayCatGlistennaens are still miserable.
21:15.16AGrayCatChostvans previously wiped them out due to a few... disagreements.
21:16.04DrodoEmpireOkay
21:16.19DrodoEmpireI'll see about the Drodo getting involved diplomatically soon
21:16.31AGrayCatWith the Soyuz?
21:16.42DrodoEmpireYes
21:16.48AGrayCatSince the lines are so messy Mer Korolyova theoretically exists in the Gigaquadrant.
21:16.52AGrayCatbut partially doesn't.
21:17.06XhoOluapPlayer: Well I think you got what you wished for, TF2 Freaks is now a dead culture
21:17.29OluapPlayerWelcome to 2010
21:17.38XhoI did say I was behind hur
21:17.53OluapPlayerWhat makes you say that now?
21:18.11XhoWell by the looks of it most of the Gmodders on Steam don't post Gmod stuff any more
21:18.34XhoHaven't seen a Gmod related thing in weeks
21:18.43OluapPlayerit deed
21:18.47dromExcept you, Xho
21:18.55XhoYeah well I had to post a reaction face
21:19.12XhoThat concept wiki that Saris started has been killed and posthumously sodomized
21:19.26OluapPlayerGmod videos as a whole are dying out, SFM is what people use now
21:19.32Xhofuk dat
21:19.45Xhono patience 4 dat shi
21:19.46OluapPlayerI'd use it but I have no patience to learn how to
21:19.48OluapPlayerc
21:19.49dromMost of the SFM videos they shit out are usually terrible
21:19.51OluapPlayerimpatient hivemind
21:20.41OluapPlayerSpeaking of Gmod, I'm actually watching old 2009-10 Gmod videos right now
21:20.59OluapPlayerBecause they're better than the newer ones even though they're simpler
21:21.13dromHachiman Xho: "I haven't gone to College because I don't have any pants to wear"                "I never thought I'd go so low"
21:21.27XhoWow
21:22.05AGrayCatSo
21:22.10AGrayCatWill the Drodo contact them or not?
21:22.13AGrayCatFind out soon!
21:22.23HachimanI have gone to college without pants many times before
21:22.34Xhoew
21:22.34HachimanWait is this as in underwear pants or trouser pants
21:22.39XhoTrouser
21:22.40XhoStill ew
21:23.00Hachimandunt u fukn judge freeballin
21:23.44Xhojudging it
21:24.38OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCqA3X9a-2A have trains
21:25.15XhoGARBAGE DAY
21:26.20Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11046171_10205398580868600_6817907135204869547_n.jpg?oh=b81d4fc9994994b0cc628b7eb7537032&oe=56E5ACF9&__gda__=1457955228_402484525479ee0768cdad07dd683ff8 Meanwhile in Insomnia
21:26.23DrodoEmpireGrayCat: lol
21:27.04OluapPlayerpootin
21:27.25AGrayCatwhat drodoempire
21:27.39dromXho: Poutis
21:27.39DrodoEmpireWhat you had said previously]
21:28.09AGrayCatEh?
21:28.10AGrayCatOkay
21:28.19Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/11226921_727007374102866_9217847557619718916_o.jpg Oh my
21:28.31AGrayCatI'm going to start a new series of questions called Weird Questions of the Day
21:28.32AGrayCatok
21:28.34AGrayCatquestion number one
21:28.45AGrayCatWhat is the equivalent of McDonalds in your empire?
21:28.56DrodoEmpireGood question
21:29.02DrodoEmpireI like fluff questions like this
21:29.42AGrayCatok I'm going to make a survey
21:29.56DrodoEmpireDrodo might not actually have a direct equivalent. They have restaurant chains but also a whole crapton of small places, family-owned and whatnot
21:30.03DrodoEmpireProbably nothing quite on the scale of Mcdonalds
21:30.40AGrayCatok
21:30.42AGrayCatnext question
21:31.39AGrayCatthe next question is going to seem bizarre
21:31.45HachimanMcDonalds is one of the faces of the capitalist regime
21:31.45AGrayCatbut it is a species question
21:32.00AGrayCatan important question you need to answer to expand your article with random sentences
21:32.11AGrayCatDo your species feel pleasure from reproduction? Or, on a more family-friendly level, does the brain enjoy reproduction or is it just for species-survival only?
21:32.17dromGhel: "Monopole-catalyzed Fusion Reactor" sounds too mainstream....
21:32.21AGrayCatanswer away
21:32.23XhoNo for the Kicath
21:32.41XhoKicath are generally anhedonic apart from going gung-ho into a firefight
21:33.00AGrayCathm
21:33.06XhoBecause Kicath are as a whole generally psychotic
21:33.19Gheldrom: Do you want a more wordy name or something like "[name of inventor] reactor"?
21:33.27dromXho: Kicath - Expand sex cactus
21:33.35HachimanZazane compare fighting to sex; they take pleasure and pride in both
21:33.42XhoKicath - savages
21:33.56AdmiralPandaGiven the reason Fordanta fuck enough to put rabbits to shame, so there's that
21:34.21OluapPlayerI go back to this tab and I see the word "sex"
21:34.24HachimanSo either Zazane like to have sex or they wrestle; either way, lots of sweaty, intimate physical action that can result in bruises
21:34.27OluapPlayerThat is all I need to know of the discussion
21:34.35AdmiralPanda"Given enough reason" would be a better wording of that
21:34.47dromI'm uncertain about the Nomatarians, I think reproduction is rather... a charged subject
21:34.53OluapPlayerI have space succubi, I win dis
21:35.04AGrayCatuh
21:35.07HachimanYou also have fantasy succubi
21:35.10HachimanYou win twice
21:35.12OluapPlayerYes
21:35.17OluapPlayerOluap is victory²
21:35.23dromAlthrough, I've drawn closer to an analogy of spotted hyenas
21:35.30dromThough*
21:35.30XhoOluapPlayer: Voted SporeWiki's Most Sexually Charged User 2015
21:35.37Hachimandrom: Nomatarian women have fake penises?
21:35.41HachimanMeanwhile I hold monopoly over the Gigaquadrant's largest whore
21:35.45dromHachiman: Yes
21:35.54AGrayCatlink for science please Hachiman
21:35.59XhoHachiman: Voted SporeWiki's Most Sexually Charged User 2010 - 2014
21:36.05AdmiralPandapretty sure I have the character with the most children
21:36.06HachimanKEK
21:36.17OluapPlayerI defeated Hachi dis year
21:36.33XhoI'll win 2016
21:36.37AGrayCatHachiman: Could you link meh?
21:36.43HachimanLink to what?
21:36.46OluapPlayerMindless violence doesn't count as sex
21:36.48XhoAlong with Most Violent User for the seventh year in the row
21:36.49HachimanFake hyena penis? Yeah sure
21:36.50Xhoc
21:37.01HachimanOluapPlayer: They can overlap however
21:37.13OluapPlayerThey do, but why would you do that
21:37.14Xhodunt turn dis rape into a murder c
21:37.26Hachimanlets turn dis murder into necrorape c
21:37.30Xhok
21:37.37OluapPlayerTibias - MY BONES
21:37.40HachimanThey cannot say no if they're dead
21:37.40Xhoit dunt hurt when u dunt resist
21:37.49AGrayCatuh
21:38.07DrodoEmpireputs a hand over GrayCat's eyes
21:38.11AGrayCatOne more scientific question:
21:38.15DrodoEmpireOkay
21:38.18AGrayCatDo any characters have a harem?
21:38.22XhoOh god
21:38.23HachimanIt's not rape if they cannot say no
21:38.31OluapPlayerYes
21:38.31XhoQuite a few characters do I guess
21:38.39OluapPlayerArtharons have harems iirc
21:38.45dromAGrayCat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_hyena#Female_genitalia
21:38.45AdmiralPandaofficially no, technically yes
21:38.49XhoKol Daren does...sort of
21:39.08HachimanKol Daren has a harem, but not a willing one
21:39.08OluapPlayerVorius's body was a harem
21:39.27HachimanI don't think I actually have characters beyond Kol who have a harem actually
21:39.27AGrayCatKol Daren?
21:39.28OluapPlayerThat just made it sound a lot worse
21:39.35HachimanMainly because I do not like the idea of harems
21:40.00DrodoEmpireDrodo don't have harems, but they have no problem with casual sex with practically anybody. :p
21:40.06XhoKol Daren is more or less the god of violent sex
21:40.36OluapPlayerRovegar, surprisingly, would probably condone harems as indecency
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21:40.40dromNomatarians have no harems, but both genders like to wear large garnishments such as robes, cloaks and etc.
21:40.58HachimanThat is very surprising of Rovegar
21:41.08AdmiralPandaFordanta don't have official harems, but given that they tend to just sleep around a lot (especially the soldiers) dominant males might as well
21:41.10XhoKicathian harems
21:41.23XhoTwo words that surprisngly don't cause universal destruction by putting them together
21:41.26OluapPlayerRovegar put a lot of emphasis on monogamous relationship that is meant to last until death
21:42.17HachimanI am tempted to revoke that Most Sexually Charged User title from you hur
21:42.28dromblarh, I meant that Nomatarians have no harem
21:42.34dromnothing else
21:42.50dromWhat if they have no context of privacy?
21:42.50OluapPlayerIn that case I'll pull the "Vorius is a walking harem" card again
21:42.55Hachimanfug
21:42.56OluapPlayerImagine him oozing fluids all the time
21:42.59HachimanNON
21:43.05Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12036380_969322186444378_6901319837535690006_n.jpg?oh=af7aef04bbe3963a804f72d3af5e30ee&oe=56DD95FF
21:43.07HachimanIn honesty, for me at least, under most circumstances harems are haram
21:43.16XhoHaram Harem
21:43.25OluapPlayerNot that he didn't already ooze fluids all the time
21:43.26XhoYou might have just started off a Middle Eastern feminist movement
21:43.26dromes halalm
21:43.33OluapPlayerJust not the yicky type of fluids
21:43.37HachimanHarembollah
21:43.39DrodoEmpirehttps://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0387/63/1426708076032.jpg
21:43.53dromHalal haram harem
21:44.29OluapPlayerGiant sweaty mass of flesh
21:44.59AGrayCatI'll throw in the Chostvan views on relationships.
21:45.00dromOooooh, do you guys really make me have to pull out TvTrope's "Bizarre Alien Sex"?
21:45.07HachimanI get reminded of one variant of the Gelatinous Cube in the Book of Erotic Fantasy I think it was
21:45.23HachimanNo need to go on and say what it was made of I assume
21:45.26OluapPlayerVorius was a lot like a Gelatinous Cube
21:45.34AGrayCatChostvan... reproduction isn't really strange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Kollontai#Social_ideas
21:45.37OluapPlayerExcept he also had telekinetic powers
21:45.43AdmiralPandaactually it's in and AD&D spread for "blue magic"
21:45.48HachimanAh yes
21:46.01OluapPlayerYou touch him -> he digests you
21:46.04Hachimaninb4 Vorius was a Gelatinous Cube equivalent of Psycho Mantis
21:46.05dromOluapPlayer: "You are forever inside me"
21:46.08OluapPlayerYou also become part of him
21:46.22DrodoEmpireGrayCat: Right
21:46.33AdmiralPandathere are actually telepathic hivemind slimes in one spread
21:47.09DrodoEmpireDrodo are a *little* contradictory in the way that they see casual sex as socially acceptable, but the family unit is one of if not *the most* important part of a Drodo's life
21:47.09AGrayCatYes DrodoEmpire?
21:47.18dromSo however becomes part of Vorius has sex with it forever.
21:47.24OluapPlayerGoing back to the harem subject
21:47.36DrodoEmpireThough its possible that marriage isn't seen as so much of a sexual relationship
21:47.37AGrayCatHarems in Chostva are pretty much banned in name.
21:47.42OluapPlayerDracogonarious probably have no concept of harem since they have no sex drive whatsoever
21:48.02DrodoEmpireSeeing as half the time its arranged... :p
21:48.15OluapPlayerThey reproduce solely for the sake of continuing the species
21:48.22XhoThe Kicath and Dracogonarious should get along better than they do really
21:48.30XhoI guess the Kicath are the MORE DAKKA version
21:48.33AGrayCatChostvans have gone past the point of continuing the species.
21:48.38OluapPlayerYou're the one who made the Kicath unapproachable
21:48.45Xhour point bein
21:48.47DrodoEmpireThey'll be expected to have children and live under the same roof, but what they do for fun is their business
21:48.55OluapPlayerpoint bein dey dum
21:49.02AGrayCatThe Catti aren't going to last the next few generations.
21:49.03Xhour dik
21:49.06AGrayCatThe Catti are doing to die out.
21:49.12DrodoEmpire3:
21:49.20AGrayCatwell not die out
21:49.25AGrayCatjust become part of a megaspecies
21:49.34Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12038005_10207283742630013_2600229201625191519_n.jpg?oh=b6b57c53a46f735b11070983b397e7c8&oe=56FA37D6
21:49.50OluapPlayerI've not really worked on the sexuality of any of my races sans the Dracogonarious and Rovegar
21:49.58OluapPlayerWho are a race of prudes and a race of sluts respectively
21:50.15XhoYou need to create a race of prudish sluts
21:50.26OluapPlayerdats an oxymoron
21:50.26XhoAw where's Wormy I want to show him something
21:50.30Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11998933_1652847848332686_2435277045552631954_n.jpg?oh=268543a8bd85d47739211da10de518e9&oe=56E832F0 This
21:50.41OluapPlayerolol
21:50.44AGrayCatFor example on Chostva:
21:50.51AGrayCatMost leaders are asexual.
21:51.50HachimanI think I have cleared that Zazane are like Spartans when it comes to sex
21:52.06dromGhel: Regarding what you said before the channel being reduced to sex: Yes, something like that. Though the fashion of "[something] Core" and "[something] Device" have caught my attention.
21:52.12OluapPlayerKalcedia - 300 men up my bum
21:52.22XhoSantorakh - director: me
21:52.24Hachimanolol
21:52.52HachimanFor men, they view hetero sex as more romantic and such but are not opposed to having sex with men they are close friends with
21:52.55Gheldrom: The [something] being a name might be best. "Monopole Core" would literally describe the centre of each monopole which catalyses the reaction, so don't go for that unless you want to be confusing.
21:53.00HachimanFor women, dunno, same thing I suppose
21:53.02DrodoEmpireAGrayCat: How is reproduction done? Artificially?
21:53.04dromIt takes one whole pair of giant booty to control all demn men
21:53.14AGrayCatDrodo, I said the leaders are asexual.
21:53.14OluapPlayerTagutan - crispy-kun
21:53.18AGrayCatNot everyone.
21:53.25DrodoEmpireWell yes
21:53.26AGrayCatJust people like Mer Korolyova.
21:53.36DrodoEmpireRight.
21:53.41HachimanSo when somebody calls a Zazane character a fag, they are not entirely wrong hur
21:53.48AGrayCatand I plan for Mer's asexuality to be doubted.
21:53.48DrodoEmpireolol
21:53.54DrodoEmpireOkay
21:54.05OluapPlayerfits u
21:54.05OluapPlayeru fgt
21:54.22DrodoEmpireslaps Charles_Murray around a bit with a large fishbot
21:54.23dromSpeaking of asexual leaders: I think Zaalqoríum would apply for that, since I've not planned to give her any sex drive at all
21:54.25Hachimandrom: Need I bring up the fact that I have practically confirmed that Kalcedia can crush a melon between her ass cheeks
21:54.28DrodoEmpireWhoops
21:54.33AGrayCatuh
21:54.43dromHachiman: Noted
21:55.01AGrayCatdrom:  Theoretically, Mer Korolyova isn't asexual. She just uses it to further the 'second Minerva Kukrysrar' image.
21:55.02dromHachiman: How about crushing a Xhodocto's head between her boobs?
21:55.07OluapPlayerIn her defense, she's a shapeshifting thing, so she could probably turn her butt cheeks into fists
21:55.12HachimanJesus
21:55.17HachimanThat sounds fucking horrifying
21:55.22Charles_Murraydrom : Virgin queen
21:55.32XhoNu - i was expecting trouble           but not this
21:55.40dromCharles_Murray: Virgin queen - with a dick
21:55.43OluapPlayerKalcedia grows a head on her tail for extra oral prowess
21:55.57HachimanDon't give me ideas
21:55.57DrodoEmpiredrom: CKII?
21:56.01DrodoEmpireXD
21:56.17OluapPlayerWell there's nothing her from doing all sorts of crazy shit with her body
21:56.21dromDrodoEmpire: Yeah, Nomtarians have no problems with the idea of inbreeding and incest.
21:56.23OluapPlayerBut it'd make her gross so don't do it
21:56.28HachimanKalcedia went from sexy to fucking scary real quick
21:56.28AGrayCatTo put it nicely about Mer Korolyova: Imagine her as a lighter version of Catherine the Great.
21:56.31OluapPlayerstopping her*
21:56.36dromSo it makes the whole CKII trope even bigger
21:56.39dromand more bold
21:57.04OluapPlayerShe needs to do something opposite of that
21:57.24OluapPlayerLike shapeshift into a little girl who is treated like a child by everyone
21:57.49HachimanYour loli fetish is coming through
21:57.56OluapPlayer>imblyign
21:58.04AGrayCatwhat hachiman, eh?
21:58.18OluapPlayerKalcedia was never a child
21:58.20dromHachiman OluapPlayer: Just got reminded of post in the /mlp/ thread simulator: a pony that's a hybrid of every pony ----> reply: "does it have [redacted] vaginas"
21:58.21OluapPlayerShe needs a childhood
21:58.39HachimanChildhood: Kol Daren Edition
21:59.01HachimanIt would be fucking creepy to have Kalcedia call someone "daddy~"
21:59.05OluapPlayerKol - first i rape you until you can't walk, then i teach you the alphabet
21:59.30dromKol - while sucking on my sausage
21:59.45OluapPlayerKalcedia has a weird family
21:59.54OluapPlayerGiant rapist father, giant gay brother, rabbit brother
21:59.54Xho'weird'
22:00.22Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/10425127_2394905980564639_6432598170165248526_n.jpg?oh=72816cd155ad46f15391decbc2fbc396&oe=56B4945D Fantasyverse in a nutshell
22:00.25drominb4 rabbit brother is hachi
22:00.47OluapPlayerKol has created a clone of Hachi called Sanguine
22:00.53OluapPlayerHe is, by all means, Kalcedia's brother
22:00.57dromAh
22:00.57AGrayCatYou may now send transmissions!
22:00.58AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Chostvan_Soyuz_(Gigaquadrant)
22:01.03AdmiralPandais he a prettyboy with daddy issues?
22:01.04AGrayCatSend transmissions to the Soyuz guys!
22:01.16OluapPlayerNope, he's hideous and Kol loves him
22:01.18drom"WHOS YOUR DADDY"
22:01.23OluapPlayerSO the complete opposite of what you said
22:01.29AdmiralPandathen not primarch enough
22:01.43AdmiralPandanow he will never be killed by his brother because his dad was indecisive
22:01.50OluapPlayerHe can't be spess muhreen, he doesn't have a tiny pea head
22:02.45AGrayCatWho will send a transmission to the Soyuz? Eh?
22:02.47AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Chostvan_Soyuz_(Gigaquadrant)
22:02.57AGrayCat- Sponsored by GrayCat Ads
22:03.46DrodoEmpireLike I said later
22:03.55DrodoEmpireWhen the Drodo aren't busy/unstable
22:03.55dromThis fucking channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzRuKnb2uuY
22:04.12Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10369882_337152186493599_6874619846141358270_n.jpg?oh=b235c9f4125fb4180c1dc3953d8c99c4&oe=56E84785
22:04.41AdmiralPandathat sums up this IRC in general
22:04.44OluapPlayerMhor - should've given me some fish asshat
22:05.54XhoKhaadun - u mess with bear             u get claws
22:07.36XhoHOW'D YOU GET THE BEANS ABOVE THE FRANK
22:08.46Technobliteratorlooks at the channel for a second
22:08.51Technobliteratorimmediately looks away
22:09.19dromHachiman: Kalcedia.jpg http://satwcomic.com/art/iron-lady.jpg
22:09.28OluapPlayerya coward
22:09.49dromGoddamn women and their privileges
22:09.57HachimanKalcedia speaking in a German accent gives me mixed feelings
22:10.08drom#masculismwhen
22:11.06OluapPlayerKalcedia - GAS THE BLACKFORGE
22:11.36dromAnd Kalcedia gets a faux-mustache
22:12.24OluapPlayerXho: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/044/750/033.jpg TO INFINITY
22:12.39XhoPaladin Buzz
22:13.16dromhttp://i.imgur.com/mFmgH1S.webm "This is cheating. They slowed down the dude so he wouldn't hit the mattress as hard."
22:15.38dromhttp://i.imgur.com/H4yC8C2.webm
22:16.36dromhttp://i.imgur.com/FidTXZB.mp4
22:17.26dromGhel: "Monopole Core" sounds like something related to monopolization
22:19.01dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/c70zySx.webm
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22:19.21OluapPlayerGoddamnit
22:19.33OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQ1icDqhq8 time for old school SFM
22:23.39Charles_MurrayIs Impy anywhere to be found?
22:23.48dromOluapPlayer: You just reminded me of that guy who makes fucked up pre 2012 SFM videos
22:24.07dromI'm not on about rubberfruit, an other guy who seems to be an atmosphere of hating people
22:24.59dromcontempt that is
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22:29.37dromThere we go! OluapPlayer Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcOUeoiYwIg
22:29.40dromHe has tons of those
22:29.47OluapPlayerSeen
22:30.40XhoReemix sees some real shit
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22:37.53TekDroidHello
22:38.08TybusenHello
22:38.44GhelHello.
22:39.01TybusenHello
22:39.09dromHey
22:50.24Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12246734_1671925649688092_8427068536549288333_n.jpg?oh=fdfb5381667861dc375bc13a07377e72&oe=56F9F69A
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23:09.06DrodoEmpireBack, sorry everyone
23:09.12DrodoEmpireHi wormy
23:09.27Wormy_semi_hereYouTube recommends diarrhoea.  Thank you, Google.
23:09.36Wormy_semi_herehi
23:12.20Wormy_semi_heredrom:  Source of my material issues was neither Blender nor Maya.  I have to fix up the file once its exported because the exporter will always mess something up.
23:12.30dromGood
23:12.53dromI was about to think you'd start a club of berating Blender and glorifying Maya xD
23:13.58dromAnyway, Wormy_semi_here: We at katar are currently discussing about the peace talks, but we are at the climax so we are a bit too afraid to overhelm you.
23:14.40dromEither the way, expect an invite from us soon!
23:16.26Wormy_semi_hereFirstly, I don't hate Blender.  But I am of the opinion Maya's UI learning curve is a good thing in the long-term  when projects become complex
23:16.50Wormy_semi_hereSimplifying software makes it harder for end-users
23:17.25Wormy_semi_hereThat being said I am simply not used to Blender's UI but its good to have experience with all the software
23:17.49Wormy_semi_hereNo good knowing Maya well then turning up a studio that only has 3ds Max
23:17.50dromThat's why it is very useful to have a hotkey map to hand
23:18.10dromI don't have one, but I've always wanted one
23:18.39dromThere are tons of them on the internet, so a quick Google suffice
23:18.41Wormy_semi_hereheh, everyone tells me to look at hotkeys but I never get round to it #menthings
23:19.41Wormy_semi_hereIrs photoshop's menus and controls that genuinly send me into rage more than anything-else
23:20.53Wormy_semi_hereSecondly, you can explain some key points of what was/is being discussed, if possible. But I will still be slow to respond.  Deadlines and all
23:21.30Wormy_semi_hereCharles filled me in on the basics earlier
23:26.04dromWell I think we are better off finalizing the stuff first
23:26.19dromLot of opinion and lobbying to keep the track of the final agreement
23:32.00dromWormy_semi_here: Think "Treaty of Versailles" but subverted.
23:32.38Wormy_semi_hereBetter not be after my gold.
23:33.09dromOne: They want DCP to retract from Umbra, and make it a "Rhineland" which is transfered to NS' control
23:34.57dromTwo: They want to limit DCP's military
23:35.15dromThree: They want DCP to finance reparations of the war
23:36.35Wormy_semi_hereSecond one = nope.gif
23:37.13dromXA - nothing personenel *vaporizes DCP*
23:37.48Wormy_semi_hereThe DCP can act under rules of international law though.
23:53.09Wormy_semi_hereunless its fighting demons
23:53.20Wormy_semi_hereno need to be humanitarian with them
23:53.49OluapPlayerThey'll have even less excuse to be humanitarian when they meet the Entropic Dalek
23:54.00Wormy_semi_hereheh
23:54.06dromhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Active_separatist_movements_in_Europe.png
23:54.12dromGet your shit together UK
23:54.55DrodoEmpire...Really? Spain *still* wants to divide itself back up into the medieval kingdoms? XD
23:55.19DrodoEmpireLeon, Castile, Aragon... These all went poof by the 1500s
23:55.27dromSkåneland will be forever known as the glister of the Nordic dick, geographically speaking
23:55.44dromNo wonder why it is so full of dickheads
23:56.03Wormy_semi_hereWe are still split into Anglo-Saxon tribes.
23:56.44Wormy_semi_hereYork and Leicester were frighting over King Richard the III's remains.
23:56.48dromWonder how it would have been if we all let the separatist movments have their own sovereignty?
23:57.31Wormy_semi_hereDrodoEmpire, drom:  Like these people https://www.facebook.com/503682609779529/videos/505204016294055/?pnref=story
23:58.03DrodoEmpireOh dear lord that accent
23:58.16DrodoEmpireAlmost as bad as Newfoundlanders. XD
23:58.24Wormy_semi_hereNeeds to go back to primary school

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