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05:54.09PurpleBorailliananybody listening?
05:54.25PurpleBoraillian"listening"
05:55.53DrodoEUIVWe're all doing our own thing
05:55.54DrodoEUIVSorry
05:56.06DrodoEmpireIts also very late where most people live
05:56.09DrodoEmpireIncluding where I am
05:56.12DrodoEmpireSo I gotta gp
05:56.14DrodoEmpire*go
06:27.55PurpleBorailliangood buy
06:28.27PurpleBoraillianand farewell to you all
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08:13.16AGrayCathi
08:13.18AGrayCatI'm back!
08:15.35Liquid_InkHello
08:19.35AGrayCatHow do you make the roleplay transmission talk page posts?
08:21.31Liquid_InkThere's some sort of page to do that, although I haven't done so in a while and have forgotten.
08:21.41Liquid_InkCharles_Murray can you help?
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08:32.17AGrayCathi
08:33.24GhelaeHello.
08:36.17AGrayCatHello
08:50.03AGrayCathi
09:01.08AGrayCatI'm writing all about the civil war.
09:41.59AGrayCathi/
09:45.17Liquid_InkHello
09:46.22AGrayCatHello
09:46.30AGrayCatWhat happens to China in the Fiction Universe?
09:47.30Liquid_InkI believe it expanded an became the East Asian Coalition.
09:47.33AGrayCathm
09:47.38AGrayCatnevermind then
09:47.40Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:East_Asian_Coalition
09:48.07AGrayCatlast edited july 17th
09:48.08AGrayCateh
09:48.24AGrayCatbit old eh
09:48.39GhelaeAs a general rule, if a page exists on this wiki then it needs updating.
09:49.06AGrayCatperson last edited october 30th
09:49.13AGrayCatCould I ask around and see if I could update it?
09:50.41GhelaeYou could wait until one of its creators arrives on IRC and ask them.
09:50.59AGrayCatokasises
09:51.07AGrayCatI've seen Imperios around before.
09:52.05GhelaeHe's here most days. Tybusen is not here as much of the time.
09:53.06AGrayCathm
09:53.12AGrayCatHave you seen my work yet?
09:53.33AGrayCatif not: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Glistennaen_National_Republics
09:55.29AGrayCatright now I'm writing up the chaos section
10:17.33AGrayCatugh
10:17.36AGrayCathonestly
10:17.44AGrayCatwhy does everyone write so terribly about governments
10:19.47Liquid_InkThey do?
10:21.44AGrayCatmost people
10:22.05AGrayCatI'm tired of 'socialist government', 'capitalist government', etc.
10:22.09AGrayCatThose are economic types.
10:23.12Liquid_InkI no rite?
10:23.16AGrayCateh?
10:23.23Liquid_InkI know right?
10:24.56AGrayCatUhuh.
10:37.24AGrayCatBut how do I do those transmissions?
10:38.14Liquid_InkGhelae should be able to point you towards the page I mentioned.
10:38.17Liquid_Ink"Should"
10:38.29AGrayCatGhelae
10:38.35AGrayCatGhelae: fancy technique eh
10:38.59GhelaeI can only guess you mean http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg
10:39.40AGrayCathm
10:39.41AGrayCatyes
10:39.45Liquid_InkI thought there was a ting that made it all automatically?
10:40.19AGrayCatSo
10:40.26AGrayCatAnyone here run any nations in Borealis?
10:40.31AGrayCatcause i need relations :(
10:40.37Liquid_InkNope.
10:40.45Liquid_InkI was unaware Oluap was letting people in.
10:41.07AGrayCatI was let in.
10:41.19AGrayCatAnd it is a comfy place to live.
10:42.21Liquid_InkIs it?
10:42.22AGrayCatI just finished the Civil War.
10:42.24AGrayCatmhm.
10:42.34AGrayCatthough I plan to add to the civil war later.
10:44.23AGrayCatIt is actually heavily based off a real-life incident.
10:44.34Liquid_InkOh?
10:44.35AGrayCatthough i changed things
10:44.47AGrayCatlike the plot actually succeeding
10:54.06AGrayCatdarn
10:54.10AGrayCati'm stuck in a black hole in spore
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11:26.29AGrayCatHello
11:26.34HachimanHi
11:27.34AGrayCatHi
11:27.37AGrayCatOluapPlayer
11:27.43AGrayCatThank you for letting me join Borealis!
11:28.24OluapPlayerno problem
11:28.40AGrayCatHave you read my article yet?
11:29.05OluapPlayerYes
11:29.14OluapPlayerIt's a good start
11:30.39AGrayCatWhy did you previously not allow entry to Borealis, out of interest?
11:30.47HachimanI wanna see this article
11:31.14AGrayCatWhich one?
11:31.26OluapPlayerYours
11:31.36AGrayCatm
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11:31.53AGrayCatCould I be on the Borealis Codex if possible?
11:31.54HachimanHai Imp
11:31.56AGrayCatHi Imperios!
11:32.02OluapPlayerBecause I'm generally reluctant to let other people in it
11:32.03OluapPlayerHi Imp
11:32.09AGrayCatSo why did you let me in?
11:32.16ImperiosHiya
11:32.41HachimanI wouldn't question it hur
11:32.43AGrayCatImperios, have you seen the updated version of the G.N.R?
11:32.52OluapPlayerYou're not the first user to settle there
11:32.55OluapPlayerBecause I decided to give people a chance
11:33.01AGrayCathmm
11:33.03AGrayCatmmmk
11:33.34HachimanThe GNR page looks good
11:33.56OluapPlayerBorealis is a very close-knit galaxy where I keep virtually all of my fiction, so of course I'm very protective for it
11:34.19ImperiosHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1448099040707.png ohgodwhat
11:34.27OluapPlayerAnd yes, you can be in the Codex page as soon as you finish your page
11:34.51HachimanOh Jesus
11:36.33OluapPlayerThere's the matter of location to be settled. Where do you want the GNR to be located in the galaxy?
11:36.58AGrayCat*looks at map*
11:37.18AGrayCatWhat would you suggest for a small trading empire?
11:37.24AGrayCat543 planets altogether.
11:37.45HachimanImperios: I wonder if Fantasy Moxix himself would be undead like the rest of his mountain realm, or somewhere between living and dead
11:37.47OluapPlayerThe Sovaikai Sector is where I recommend starting users to go
11:38.04ImperiosMaybe he's part possessed?
11:38.12HachimanPerhaps yeah
11:38.29ImperiosLike, he's sort of alive but his life has been unnaturally extended by the spirits that reside within his body
11:38.40AGrayCatInformation on the Sector?
11:38.48AGrayCatOnly one result comes up on the galaxy page.
11:39.30OluapPlayerIt's primarily inhabited by young, not-overpowered empires
11:39.57AGrayCatRepublic is 800 years old though.
11:39.59AGrayCat789 actually.
11:41.01OluapPlayerThe Zoles Imperium's predecessor dates from 23,000 years, the Rovegar Matriarchy dates from 1,200,000 years
11:41.08OluapPlayerThey're young by Borealis standards :v
11:41.28AGrayCathm
11:41.39AGrayCatthey were forced to settle down by other people
11:42.05AGrayCattheoretically
11:42.28AGrayCatif you were someone wanting to put the Republic out of your way forever in the early 21st century
11:42.33AGrayCatWhere in Borealis would they put them
11:42.41AGrayCatwhere they could still interact with other nations?
11:42.52OluapPlayerI don't quite understand your question
11:43.24HachimanImperios: Maybe Moxix became what he is today by stealing information from your undead civilisation via the raids you mentioned and such and experimenting and researching with it
11:43.27AGrayCatWhere would they be if they were forced to settle in the 21st Century and were given a fairly decent spot to interact with other nations?
11:43.35AGrayCatthat is basically my question
11:44.13ImperiosMaybe
11:44.37OluapPlayerUh, being at Sokaikai lets them interact both with the races of the region, the races of Limeis and the races of Mirianis
11:44.56AGrayCatYes, but from a 21st Century perspective?
11:44.59AGrayCatI like making my history fit in.
11:45.16HachimanStill Limeis and Mirianis
11:45.19OluapPlayerThe fictionverse is set in the 28th century you should know
11:45.23AGrayCatI know.
11:45.23OluapPlayerThe answer is the same
11:45.36AGrayCathm
11:45.39HachimanMost young fictions are also quite old
11:45.46AGrayCateh?
11:45.56HachimanLike, exist from before the 21st century and such
11:46.05AGrayCatSo do the Glistennaens.
11:46.18AGrayCatIt is only their current form that was formed in the 21st Century.
11:46.30HachimanSo they would still interact with races like those mentioned
11:46.32AGrayCatpreviously they inhabited the milky way before being forced to migrate
11:46.35AGrayCatVery well.
11:53.22AGrayCataccording to this
11:53.24AGrayCatbefore 1997
11:53.25AGrayCatin china
11:53.31AGrayCatyou could be executed for killing a panda
11:53.32AGrayCateh?
11:54.08HachimanDoesn't surprise me
11:54.31OluapPlayerPandas are very endangered animals
11:55.09ImperiosYou can be executed for anything in China
11:55.15ImperiosIt's that kind of country
11:55.40OluapPlayerImperios Hachiman: I started an Aynach page and I'll need help from you both to fill it
11:55.45HachimanAye I saw
11:55.51ImperiosYeah same
11:55.51HachimanI'd be glad to help
11:56.01ImperiosThe name "Chivalry" is the only thing I am a bit iffy about
11:56.10OluapPlayerknights tho
11:56.28HachimanA chivalry is not a term for a state hur
11:56.33HachimanActually lemme check
11:56.44OluapPlayerThat's why it's original
11:57.08HachimanEh I think it works personally
11:57.10OluapPlayerIt's more interesting than "Kingdom of Aynach"
11:57.16ImperiosWhat Hachi said
11:57.49HachimanHe has gotta point since it's a more interesting name
11:57.56HachimanAnd rule of cool applies to the Fantasyverse hur
11:58.31AGrayCatquestion
11:58.33AGrayCatOluap
11:58.41AGrayCatWhat is your stance on FTL in Borealis?
11:58.51ImperiosTrue
11:59.01OluapPlayerYour people comes from the Milky Way, they can have any FTL travel they want
11:59.04ImperiosLooking at actual countries ruled by knights, there's the cool term I found
11:59.05Imperios"Ordenstadt'
11:59.19OluapPlayerNever heard of
11:59.29HachimanI'm guessing that means something like "Orderly State" or "State of Order"?
11:59.44ImperiosState [ruled by a knightly] Order
12:00.10OluapPlayerI liked the name I made ;_;
12:00.12OluapPlayerAlright
12:00.13ImperiosIt's what the Crusaders who tried to invade Russia during the 11th century called their nation
12:00.16AGrayCatmmmmmmmmnhmmmmmmmKKKmmmm
12:00.25ImperiosYour choice, I am just coming up with ideas
12:00.26AGrayCat- longest mmk ever
12:00.29HachimanI still like Sublime Chivalry
12:00.39ImperiosYeah it's good
12:00.57OluapPlayerI'll follow your instructions since you own the Empire
12:01.04OluapPlayerI'm just trying to contribute to it
12:01.07HachimanYeah but you own Aynach
12:01.38OluapPlayerSpeaking of ruled by knights, that's one thing I pictured about it
12:01.49OluapPlayerThe king needs to be a recognized knight, otherwise he's kicked out of the throne
12:02.15HachimanSo it's not an automatically hereditary system?
12:02.22OluapPlayerNope
12:02.30AGrayCatIs the fantasy universe better than the fiction one?
12:02.39HachimanMatter of personal preference
12:02.48HachimanSome prefer the Fantasyverse, others prefer the Fictionverse
12:02.50OluapPlayerYou can't compare them, they're completely different settings
12:02.59AGrayCathmm
12:02.59HachimanFantasyverse is a little less active user-wise than the Fictionverse though
12:03.30OluapPlayerThe king's eldest needs to be a knight. If he fails or refuses to, he's no longer applicable to be ruler
12:03.47OluapPlayerNote, a knight who has done a feat of great courage and valor
12:03.55OluapPlayerLike slaying a large beast or something of the sort
12:03.59HachimanYeah
12:04.35HachimanReminds me of the Grail Knights a little
12:05.15OluapPlayerNever heard of
12:05.56ImperiosHmmm
12:05.58HachimanKnights in Warhammer FB who take on quests and journeys in the interests of Britonnia and to accomplish deeds and trials, culminating in managing to find and drink from the Holy Grail and become a noble lord
12:06.31OluapPlayerI see
12:06.33ImperiosMaybe "Chivalry of Aynach" is the short term for Aynach, with the full name being too long to be practical?
12:06.44ImperiosIt happened a lot with Medieval titles
12:06.56OluapPlayerSublime Ordenstadt of Aynach, aka Chivalry of Aynach
12:07.17AGrayCatwhy are there two rp channels?
12:07.25HachimanGreat Chivalric Ordenstadt of Aynach and Solaris
12:07.34ImperiosSublime Chilvalric Order State of Aynach and Solaris
12:07.45OluapPlayerIn case people want to rp there but it's already used
12:08.00AGrayCat#sporewiki-rp3
12:08.08OluapPlayerIf you're going to add the capital to the empire's name, it'd be Visonia
12:08.17ImperiosThe title of the Russian Tsar was "By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and othe
12:08.17Imperiosrs; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Nogorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; Circassian and Mountainous Princes and their Hereditary Lord and Owner; Lord of Turkestan; Norwegian Heir; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and ot
12:08.17Imperioshers, and others."
12:08.25ImperiosSo having a long name is not that bad
12:08.32OluapPlayerVisonia was the capital, it was destroyed by the Lympharians, then Solaris was founded
12:08.43HachimanSo wouldn't it be Solaris now?
12:09.04OluapPlayerIt would, but not when the empire was founded
12:09.47HachimanSo you could have "Sublime Chilvalric Order State of Aynach and Solaris, formerly the Sublime Chilvalric Order State of Aynach and Visonia and otherwise known as the Sublime Chivalry of Aynach"
12:10.06OluapPlayerDidn't you want it to be called Ordenstadt though
12:10.19HachimanOrder State fits in better with the rest
12:10.24HachimanIt means the same thing anyway
12:10.48OluapPlayerI don't know what to call the page now
12:10.49HachimanAlso it's "chivalric", not "chilvaric"
12:10.51OluapPlayerI already moved it to Ordenstadt
12:11.15HachimanJust keep it Sublime Chivalry of Aynach
12:11.50AGrayCatHMm?
12:12.08HachimanMannazia's true name is "Grand Principality of Rauthberg and Eastern Mannazia" yet the page is called "Grand Principality of Mannazia"
12:12.13HachimanBecause of simplicity
12:14.00AGrayCatwhy is france so powerful by the way
12:14.09HachimanBecause it is hur
12:14.31HachimanIt has a lot of history behind it on the interstellar scene and has a lot of connections
12:14.40ImperiosBecause we have a French nationalist in our midst
12:14.47HachimanAnd that
12:14.57AGrayCatHow did that impact things?
12:15.22OluapPlayerThe user is french, he made a France, it was well-written, people accepted it as powerful
12:16.00AGrayCatEh
12:16.21ImperiosHon
12:16.30Hachimanhonhon
12:16.40ImperiosPeople here often write about things they like and are often inspired by their own countries
12:16.43OluapPlayerHachiman Imperios: I need suggestions regarding history and technology
12:16.54OluapPlayerWhen I look at Aynach I basically think "Mannazia but weaker"
12:17.03ImperiosWhich is why, for example, my fiction has a vaguely Eastern European/East Asian/Middle Eastern feel
12:17.37ImperiosFor some reason whenever I look at Aynach all I can think of is Crusaders
12:17.49HachimanYeah same
12:17.51ImperiosAnd this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r7eNvrTQJM
12:17.57HachimanWhich fits because knights
12:19.11AGrayCatokay
12:19.15AGrayCatsurvey time
12:19.29OluapPlayerI don't know about human history, so I see crusaders as a bunch of zealot murderers
12:19.37OluapPlayerWhich is the opposite of what Aynach is meant to be
12:19.49AGrayCathttp://strawpoll.me/6060890
12:21.00AGrayCatonly 1 vote
12:21.18HachimanPerhaps Aynach was founded by various Mannazian knightly orders who were originally gathered to expand the Grand Principality's territory further into the Eastern Plains and for some reason they decided to secede and gradually became friendly over time
12:22.09OluapPlayerI remember us agreeing Mannazians and Aynachians shared ancestry
12:22.43AGrayCathm
12:22.59ImperiosWell first of all do Aynachians share the same origin with most Imperial humans?
12:23.02ImperiosAs in, rebel slaves
12:23.17HachimanConsider that Aynachians are 400 years old and Mannazians are 1,000
12:23.20OluapPlayerThey descend from the same people as the Mannazians
12:23.22OluapPlayerSo yes
12:23.23AGrayCathuh
12:23.28AGrayCatFantasy talk :(
12:23.32OluapPlayerThe age is mostly a placeholder
12:24.02ImperiosI just had an interesting thought
12:24.20HachimanPerhaps the Mannazian crusaders met with and incorporated local tribes of wild humans residing in the southern Eastern Plains, like how the Saphronians happened
12:24.20AGrayCatyes?
12:24.27OluapPlayerAynachians being literal misplaced Mannazians would bring problems
12:24.47ImperiosSince the Empire was expanding from its original state for quite a while, maybe Aynach was one of the Sovereignty regions that was NOT liberated initially
12:25.24HachimanOh?
12:25.46ImperiosLike maybe the local elven rulers agreed to emancipation after seeing the rebellions start and preemptively gave humans more freedom
12:26.06ImperiosAllowing elven and human cultures to kind of merge there peacefully
12:26.15ImperiosAnd by merge I mean both merge and *merge*
12:26.27OluapPlayerThere are no elves living at Aynach
12:26.42HachimanSo for some time, Aynach was its own state and a vassal of the Sovereignty?
12:26.43ImperiosDidn't you say they have some Erylia blood?
12:26.50ImperiosThen the Empire kind of just snatched it and kicked the elves out
12:27.05OluapPlayerI said they have no stigma with coupling with elves
12:27.14OluapPlayerand the Erylia happen to be their closest neighbours
12:27.43OluapPlayerWell, Erylia and Hikamera
12:27.47HachimanI think it'd be neat if the Aynachians had Hikamera blood in their veins
12:27.55HachimanWould explain their obsession with eyes
12:28.02ImperiosTrue but as I said, it could be that the elves eventually migrated or were banished when the Empire came and once in a while there was an elven minority there
12:28.13OluapPlayerThey're obsessed with eyes because of Isiris, not the Hikamera
12:28.45HachimanA majority of the elves could have migrated of their own will
12:29.14ImperiosSuddenly Aynach became fantasy Crimea
12:29.27OluapPlayerThe rest of the Empire suddenly telling Aynach to get rid of its elves would be met with opposition
12:29.33HachimanRather than the Empire forcing them away, which the elves would have felt Aynach would have been forced to do
12:30.02HachimanThey pre-emptively did it to make sure opposition did not happen but some could have stayed behind
12:31.26ImperiosMaybe they feared being persecuted and killed and left, but those who stayed were not actually expelled
12:31.32HachimanYeah
12:31.38ImperiosAlbeit discriminated against
12:31.58HachimanIf discriminated, probably by Mannazian migrants rather than the Aynachians
12:32.21OluapPlayerThen these migrants would suffer discrimination from the Aynachians themselves
12:32.29HachimanOf course
12:33.08HachimanThere could have been minor skirmishes between Mannazia and Aynach but they stopped when Aynach kicked Mannazia's arse and the migrants eventually fully integrated with Aynachian customs
12:33.24OluapPlayerI don't think that's possible
12:33.38HachimanWhy?
12:33.40OluapPlayerI don't intend for Aynach to rival the important provinces in strength
12:34.47HachimanAlright
12:35.22ImperiosIt would make sense for them to be able to beat them if they only faced small invading parties
12:35.30HachimanYeah
12:35.41HachimanThat is the point of a skirmish; they are not large-scale battles
12:35.46OluapPlayerIt would, but not an actual army
12:36.22OluapPlayerI didn't make Aynach for it to steal the limelight of the actual important provinces
12:36.30HachimanDon't be dum
12:36.44OluapPlayerYou don't be dum
12:36.55HachimanIf I said it's okay for Mannazia to get defeated, it's okay for them to get defeated
12:37.12ImperiosFreelanders raped the entire Empire hur
12:37.29AGrayCatuh
12:37.30OluapPlayerFreelanders are a completely separate faction
12:37.34AGrayCatwhy do you all make such jokes eh?
12:37.49OluapPlayerWhy not?
12:38.13AGrayCatobvious reasons eh?
12:38.37OluapPlayerWe've all been friends for years here
12:38.43OluapPlayerWe joke around all the time
12:38.55AGrayCatmmmmmk
12:39.52HachimanSo Aynach was democratically liberated from the Sovereignty without violence after being a vassal for some time and became an Imperial province, a majority of elves moved out and left an elven minority, Mannazian migrants moved in and caused a stir, unofficial skirmishes happened caused by Mannazia through small militant groups which get put down, Mannazians eventually fully adopt into Aynach
12:40.33ImperiosAs I said
12:40.35ImperiosFantasy Crimea
12:41.05OluapPlayerOkay, that works
12:41.14OluapPlayerWhen did the human rebellion take place again?
12:41.29HachimanI think maybe 1,000 years ago
12:41.46OluapPlayerBut Ahmalhrich lived 6,000 years ago
12:41.54HachimanAhmalhrich didn't found the Empire
12:42.00OluapPlayerHe was a rebel leader
12:42.09HachimanHe caused pre-Imperial rebellions which were put down after he died
12:42.35HachimanIf anything he allowed for wild tribes of humans to exist to later be joined into the Empire outside of the Sovereignty's notice
12:42.36OluapPlayerI could swear he was one of THE leaders of the rebellion that created the Empire
12:43.23HachimanHe did not create the Empire but he allowed for proto-Mannazians to diaspora into territories beyond the Sovereignty
12:43.48HachimanWhich were later rejoined into the Empire, like how Mannazians met with the local tribes which would become the Saphronians
12:43.53OluapPlayerI see
12:44.03OluapPlayerAynach's age will be closer to 1,000 then
12:44.15HachimanIf Aynach was a late-liberated state it makes sense for them to only have 400 years of their own history
12:44.47OluapPlayerI doubt the Sovereignty would wait 600 years to think "better do it now before they rebel"
12:45.07HachimanTrue
12:45.27HachimanI'd give them an age of 600 years personally
12:45.38OluapPlayer400 years is still a very long time
12:45.42Hachimanrite
12:45.44Hachiman800
12:45.54HachimanThat's less than a standard elf's lifetime
12:45.59OluapPlayer800-900 sounds more realistic
12:46.03ImperiosThat being said the Empire was not founded immediately after humans being liberated
12:46.08Hachiman850 hur
12:46.10OluapPlayerSpeak for your own elves
12:46.24ImperiosThe Empire as a whole is like 500-600 years old
12:46.27ImperiosNot very ancient
12:46.33HachimanYeah
12:46.41AGrayCatok
12:46.47OluapPlayer900 years are already 3 Erylian generations
12:46.54AGrayCatI plan to make the Glistennaen National Republic page an index for the entire species.
12:47.21HachimanWait I meant 200 years is less than a standard elf's lifetime
12:47.22AGrayCatwhy is my page blank??
12:47.24ImperiosSo they joined the Empire like 400 years ago
12:47.26ImperiosWhich fits
12:47.28AGrayCatMy page is blank???
12:47.40OluapPlayerTry editing it
12:47.42HachimanAGrayCat: That happens occasionally
12:47.52HachimanYou haven't lost anything, just Wikia having a fault
12:48.35OluapPlayerI also want to know how the other human provinces see Aynach
12:48.42HachimanSo Aynach officially existed for 800-900 years and only became an Imperial province 400 years ago
12:48.43OluapPlayerand how important they are in the overall empire
12:48.49HachimanMannazians probably like them
12:49.00HachimanMannazian knights are probably valued a lot by Imperial nobles
12:49.05HachimanAynachian knights even
12:49.06OluapPlayerI need definite answers, not "probably"s
12:49.19Hachimandunt be rood
12:49.30OluapPlayerdunt be vague
12:49.55AGrayCathm
12:50.03AGrayCatPeople still chatting about fantasy universe :(
12:50.22OluapPlayerYeah, and we'll go on for as long as we need
12:50.26AGrayCati guessed that
12:50.33HachimanMannazia likes them and would have a fair deal of trade with them due to regional and cultural ties but view them as a little too liberal for their own good
12:50.33Liquid_InkPeople like the fantasy universe
12:50.36AGrayCati'll get involved when ya'll are done
12:50.43AGrayCatwith the irc again
12:50.44AGrayCatfor now
12:50.57HachimanAnd also do not enjoy the fact that Ahmalhrich is not the main religious figure in Aynach
12:51.11OluapPlayerI thought Mannazians were atheists
12:51.15HachimanThey are
12:51.27OluapPlayerSo they have no right to complain about that
12:51.31HachimanWell, eh
12:51.33ImperiosL'Ammanori would probably hire Aynach knights as mercenaries for them
12:51.41HachimanIt's hero-worship rather than deific-worshi
12:51.42ImperiosSo they'd have good relationships
12:51.45Hachimanworship even
12:51.58ImperiosAlhassal is too smug to like anyone
12:52.07HachimanThey do not view Ahmalhrich as a god and have forsaken gods since they feel they did not assist in humanity's liberation
12:52.08OluapPlayerdum
12:52.47HachimanOf course that would be different for Aynachians since they have major elven influences
12:52.55ImperiosThough maybe being fellow monotheists they might have a few connections
12:53.16OluapPlayerAlso L'Ammanori needs a page on the basis that I ended up with three Manorian characters
12:53.24HachimanAye
12:53.26OluapPlayer2 if you count Clothovera and Damon as only 0.5
12:53.45ImperiosThere should be an Akbar expy in Alhassal that likes religious debates
12:54.03ImperiosAnd invites Aynach priests to Alhassan cities so that they could discuss the matters of theology
12:54.16OluapPlayerAynach - yall motherfuckers need isiris
12:54.35HachimanMannazia - dum religion tards with their gods            look wat ahmalhrich did 4 us
12:54.41OluapPlayerHow does Saphronia sees Aynach?
12:55.56HachimanYou know, since Aynach has a history of elven settlement and good modern relations with them, maybe Aynachian humans do not suffer / suffer less deformities from using magic due to elven blood
12:56.16ImperiosProbably too distant to care that much but I imagine they allow Aynachians to study in their magic schools
12:56.48OluapPlayerI imagine Aynachians prefer magic weapons rather than mages
12:56.51HachimanI know most Imperial humans have distant elven blood but it's kinda been bred out by rejecting reproduction with elves
12:57.07HachimanAynachians on the other hand
12:57.31ImperiosOluapPlayer: Then Saphonians may sell theirs to them
12:57.41OluapPlayerThat works
12:58.12Imperios~attack Liquid_Ink
12:58.12infobotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Liquid_Ink
12:58.26ImperiosSince Liquid has a province he too should probably have a say
12:58.42OluapPlayerWould they be part of the Table of Governors?
12:58.49HachimanMost Imperial provinces do
12:58.49Liquid_Inkhasn't been paying attention. What are we talking about?
12:59.10ImperiosThe new (sort of) Imperial province of Aynach
12:59.22ImperiosWe're currently discussing what sort of relationship do they have with all other provinces
12:59.35Liquid_InkWhat are they like?
12:59.45Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man#Ethnicities
12:59.49ImperiosKnight fellows
12:59.58ImperiosCrusader guys
13:00.10HachimanBut friendly and liberal
13:00.14HachimanAnd also rather religious
13:04.34OluapPlayerImperios: blargh my question
13:04.50Liquid_InkThe Kataroçei are fairly humble as far as it goes, and I imagine they'd try to get along as best they can.
13:04.53ImperiosI think most, if not all provinces are
13:05.07OluapPlayerRight
13:05.29OluapPlayerIs it a representative or the actual ruler who's part of the table?
13:05.46ImperiosThe ruler
13:05.52OluapPlayerRght
13:06.00ImperiosIt's kind of like the HRE
13:06.12OluapPlayerI need to make the Aynach king but I need an updated human PNG
13:06.18AGrayCatOluapPlayer:
13:06.21AGrayCatI have a question
13:06.28OluapPlayerWhat is it
13:10.04ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a3/Mannazian_Human_%283%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20151121130952 There you have it
13:10.11ImperiosClothed too
13:10.27OluapPlayerThanks
13:10.53AGrayCatWhich empires would be open to trade and equal to me/more powerful than me in the year 2763?
13:13.31OluapPlayerThe empires equal to yours are those listed in the Codex page as Minor Powers. More or less all empires in that page are open to trade except the evil ones
13:14.42AGrayCatI'm not a minor power.
13:14.55AGrayCatIf a minor power has 1,000,000 colonies... I really am Sealand.
13:15.40AGrayCatWould the companies be open to trade with me?
13:15.55OluapPlayerYou said your empire has 543 colonies
13:15.57Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12235060_1706004402955145_5238254828479351976_n.jpg?oh=2215b40651a3b01379857bae6a814b82&oe=56E6E3CC
13:16.27OluapPlayerAnd I don't own any of the companies
13:16.34AGrayCatoh
13:16.45AGrayCatexactly
13:17.06AGrayCatalso
13:17.12AGrayCatI'm reading the Krinkut Union right now.
13:17.16AGrayCatWould they be open to trade?
13:17.22OluapPlayerYes
13:17.28AGrayCatok
13:17.46AGrayCatDo they have an actual page?
13:17.57OluapPlayerNo
13:18.38HachimanImperios: I wonder what those black Mannazians in the Tropical Lands
13:19.01AGrayCat:(
13:19.19AGrayCatOluap
13:19.26AGrayCatCould I be a major trade hub?
13:19.44HachimanDoubt it
13:19.55AGrayCatdarn
13:19.56OluapPlayerYour empire is a little too small for that, plus there already established major trade hubs
13:19.57HachimanHyperborea exists after all
13:20.00OluapPlayerNamely the Poalr Crystal Alliance
13:20.05AGrayCatCould I be a Venice?
13:20.05OluapPlayerPolar*
13:20.30OluapPlayerI guess
13:20.43AGrayCatWith trade colonies, a pretty decent military, and a port city at home with a gigantic population in the port city.
13:20.53AGrayCatbut then there is the crime
13:20.56AGrayCatand the corruption
13:21.14HachimanImplying there was no corruption or crime in Venice
13:22.23AGrayCathey
13:22.32AGrayCatwe haven't elected a blind guy to president yet
13:22.48HachimanThere are reasons for that
13:23.33AGrayCatuhuh
13:23.44OluapPlayerDangit where's Imp
13:23.48AGrayCatSo
13:24.05AGrayCatI'm basically Space-Venice apart from the blind guy leading the nation and a raid.
13:24.16AGrayCatwould that be accurate?
13:24.23HachimanI suppose
13:28.46AGrayCatwhy is the herame republic named "kalda polyarchy"?
13:28.50AGrayCatis that a mistake?
13:28.56OluapPlayerYes
13:29.50AGrayCathm
13:30.00AGrayCatCan I join the Polar Crystal Alliance?
13:30.50OluapPlayerI suppose
13:31.19AGrayCatI would be joining in the year 2804, aka modern day. Is that a suitable year?
13:33.01OluapPlayerModern day is 2810 in Borealis
13:33.02OluapPlayerAnd yes
13:33.21AGrayCathm
13:36.30AGrayCatthis is brutal
13:36.57HachimanHm?
13:38.49AGrayCatall the great powers are so young
13:38.56AGrayCatmeaning i can't trade with them :(
13:38.58AGrayCatalso
13:39.03AGrayCatmy trade routes started in 2763
13:39.25OluapPlayerThe Great Powers are reformed versions of old empires
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13:40.38GhelaeHello.
13:40.40AGrayCatHello
13:40.50OluapPlayerThe Niaka Special Forces is young, but the Niaka people have been spacefaring for 12,000 years
13:41.22OluapPlayerOnly the Seagon are genuinely young
13:41.52AGrayCatCould I trade with the Kormacvar Legacy?
13:42.37OluapPlayerNo, they have no need for commerce
13:43.06AGrayCathmm
13:43.26AGrayCatokay i'm going to publish
13:43.30AGrayCatif anything is wrong tell me
13:43.40AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Glistennaen_National_Republics#Modern_Day
13:45.42OluapPlayerThe Rovegar Matriarchy was not known to the galaxy before 2794
13:47.03AGrayCatah
13:47.30AGrayCatediting
13:47.33AGrayCatanything else?
13:48.17OluapPlayerThat's it
13:48.45AGrayCatgreat!
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13:56.27HachimanHoi Dino
13:56.44OluapPlayerHi
13:56.53dino82_hello all!
13:56.56dino82_How is allz doing?
13:58.01HachimanDoing alright
14:00.12AGrayCathey
14:02.28dino82_Great to hear :D
14:02.39AGrayCatwhat is your name on the wikia?
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14:14.36AGrayCatHow do people make those models of cities and fleets?
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14:15.55HachimanAdventure Editor in Galactic Adventures
14:16.00dromLet me tell you a story how I became the biggest blunderer in one day:
14:16.16drom>lost my wallet yesterday
14:16.22drom>report it to the police and everything
14:16.34drom>find it in my other jacket the next day
14:17.49dromNow I need to cancel the police report and wait few weeks before I get my new debit card
14:18.31AGrayCathmm
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14:18.37AGrayCatHow do you use the adventure editor?
14:18.56AGrayCatalso
14:19.00AGrayCatOluapPlayer:
14:19.14AGrayCatAre there any Grox in Borealis anymore at all?
14:19.51OluapPlayerKormacvar Legacy
14:20.33AGrayCathmm
14:20.37AGrayCatnot exactly true grox
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14:21.15OluapPlayerThere are no normal Grox in Borealis
14:22.16AGrayCatokay
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14:22.26AGrayCatCan you give me advice on my relations now?
14:23.03OluapPlayerThat's for you to make
14:23.45dino82_@drom: Auch, that is bad luck
14:23.46AGrayCatbut you own all the nearby nations and i can't do things without your approval
14:23.59dino82_@AgrayCat: my name on the wiki is Dinoman82
14:24.46dromdino82_: Good thing though that my parents were on visit that day and helped me. I've some cash to help me to survive the lack of debit card.
14:24.56dino82_phew,
14:26.01TechnobliteratorAGrayCat, you can message other empires to form alliances or enemies
14:26.21AGrayCatmhm
14:26.38AGrayCatbut i'm trying to make one of those fancy message thingies
14:26.51AGrayCatbut i can't figure it out for the life of me so i don't have one pretty much
14:27.29Technobliteratoralso, Hachiman, I am so going to call you はちまん from now on
14:27.37Technobliteratornow that I know how to spell your name in hiragana :D
14:27.47HachimanHuh sweet
14:27.54AGrayCatdino82_:  mhm
14:28.07AGrayCatand plus
14:28.10HachimanThat is literally "Eight Man" isn't it hur
14:28.20AGrayCati can't send out messages without them looking fancy, can i?
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14:28.23dino82_fancy message?
14:28.28Wormy_hi
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14:28.32TechnobliteratorNope, it's "ha-chi-ma-n"
14:28.33PurpleBoraillianhello
14:29.04TechnobliteratorI haven't learnt how they spell numbers yet :o but nowadays I think they just use arabic numerals
14:29.12AGrayCatyou know dino
14:29.18AGrayCatthe transmission roleplay messages
14:29.21TechnobliteratorI think my name is just ご, because there's no "jo" sound in Japanese
14:29.43HachimanHuh
14:29.48HachimanI thought they had a "jo" sound
14:30.10dromTekDroid: I think I miss living next door with the Ontarioian in Florida hur
14:30.11Wormy_Hachi:  http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1447997378054.jpg  http://imgur.com/gallery/2k7aAAm
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14:30.28AGrayCatSo
14:30.29TechnobliteratorThere's plenty of "ji" sounds, but I can't find a "jo" one
14:30.42dromWormy_ Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/8CNLH6I.png
14:30.47Technobliteratormy username, though, is てくのぶりてれた - "te-ku-no-bu-ri-te-re-ta"
14:30.50AGrayCatHow can I customise the message?
14:30.55AGrayCatAny guides?
14:31.20dromWormy_ Hachiman: Description: "Due to a testing policy at the time I wasn't allowed to approach him. I had to call the cops and wait for them to come. The cops had to pry him off the seat while he was still balls deep in it. I unfortunately had the job of removing this seat and throwing it out. This time nothing dripped onto me."
14:31.25Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/lavI1
14:31.25TechnobliteratorAGrayCat, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg
14:31.50dromWormy_: HEY! THAT'S MY JOB
14:32.08Wormy_"This time nothing dripped on me"
14:36.19Wormy_"For the americans: Nappies are Diapers"
14:36.26Wormy_This isn't een the US
14:36.32Wormy_I was expecting redneckville
14:36.45Wormy_But I bet its actually chav-ville now
14:37.02AGrayCatstill don't understand the roleplay msg thing
14:37.39dromWormy_ Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/H43HOOp.jpg
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14:38.22AGrayCateh
14:38.29AGrayCatwell
14:38.42dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/77n89CC.jpg
14:38.51AGrayCatWho would be willing to help with a roleplay transmission message?
14:45.16Wormy_Cyrannian is looking dapper today http://firsttoknow.com/photos-22-images-of-snakes-in-hats-shows-the-cute-side-of-the-dreaded-creature/
14:46.56OluapPlayerDawww
14:47.23AGrayCatwell?
14:49.45Wormy_DROM: http://imgur.com/gallery/Y1gSN
14:50.49dromWormy_: Get SOME dawws AND TEARS
14:50.50dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/AGbHT
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14:54.44JepardiHi
14:55.54PurpleBoraillianhi
15:03.24dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/x6qiGXR.png
15:05.05dromWormy_: More polite version: http://i.imgur.com/2lcLOIp.png
15:06.39Wormy_lol
15:07.49Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/U3o7n9T.jpg
15:08.40AGrayCatso
15:08.44AGrayCatcould someone help me?
15:09.16Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Ys76QUg
15:09.31Wormy_What kind of help do you want?
15:09.46Wormy_with the roleplay message
15:09.52AGrayCatdesign
15:10.01dromOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/EGeygbu.jpg
15:11.41Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/LWJLp14
15:13.48PurpleBoraillianwow
15:14.32Wormy_Spatial anomaly http://imgur.com/gallery/BiEkcV4
15:15.36Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/zskrf7B
15:15.45HachimanPLEC PLEC
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15:17.21GD12Hello!
15:17.45GD12PurpleBoraillian : are you a new user?
15:18.15PurpleBoraillianeh
15:18.25PurpleBorailliansort of
15:19.56PurpleBoraillianyou see, I haven't been active for half of the time I've part of the wiki
15:20.12Wormy_awayCan someone help GreyCat design his thing?  I have to go
15:20.33dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/yCUqono.jpg
15:20.35GD12AGrayCat : what do you need designed?
15:20.48AGrayCatYou are offering?
15:20.50Hachimanolol her face
15:21.05Wormy_awayMight be a good idea to create the template and show us it first so we know how to help
15:21.18AGrayCatcreate the template? in what way?
15:21.22GD12I'm not since i don't have spore on this laptop
15:21.26GD12But if you harass Charles_Murray
15:21.31GD12he'll probably do it
15:21.37AGrayCatno, not a species
15:21.52AGrayCatA design for a roleplay transmission.
15:22.30GD12oh
15:22.52GD12well i mean it goes '''Character 1''' - ''xxx"<br>
15:23.02GD12'''Character 2''' - ''xxx''<br>
15:23.04GD12*''
15:23.06AGrayCateh?
15:23.06GD12etc
15:23.32GD12thats the general format
15:23.36AGrayCatwhat i wanted was for someone to design one because i honestly suck at designing formats
15:23.52GD12most of us don't have rp formats?
15:26.07dromAGrayCat: If you are talking about *dialogues* - aka RP talks, That's what GD12 provided. If you meant those transmissions. We don't have any
15:31.21Charles_MurrayI think he means msg templates
15:32.25dromMore like nation-specific RP
15:33.22AGrayCatIs there a template or program to make one like the Cyrannian one?
15:34.49GD12can you provide an example of what you mean by the cyrannian one?
15:35.22Charles_MurrayYou mean something like this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Nomatari_Sovereignty#Incoming_transmission_from_the_French_Colonial_Empire
15:35.38dromAGrayCat: Galactic Empire of Cyrannus, or New Republic of Cyrannus?
15:37.48Charles_Murraytest
15:38.00GD12not failed
15:39.07AGrayCatNew Republic of Cyrannus
15:39.16AGrayCatand yes, like that Charles_Murray
15:39.36Charles_MurrayHere's the basic template for a message like that: http://pastie.org/private/azzakm8bxy0i9dib6wxua
15:39.45Charles_MurrayJust paste it on a talk page and fill it out
15:41.01AGrayCatwhat does imagestart and imagepost mean?
15:41.18Charles_MurrayWhat do you think it means?
15:41.33Charles_Murray(I made a mistake, here's the corrected one: http://pastie.org/private/eyoyyr48kqfazxmd2ysw _
15:41.34Charles_Murray)
15:41.48HachimanWormy_away: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12274368_733974200068036_2132525793612881710_n.jpg?oh=978b50b8a571447eb19d3d0efb24a61e&oe=56B5A26F
15:42.30AGrayCatThat is why I am asking?
15:43.28AGrayCatPlease tell me what everything means on it? I'm err... confused.
15:44.07Charles_MurrayThe answer is very obvious if you look at the form :( We're not always going to be here to answer your questions, so it might be good if you tried to figure out some of it by yourself.
15:44.32Charles_MurrayYou could create a sandbox for yourself and toy around with it?
15:44.41AGrayCatYes, but what does post/start mean?
15:45.04AGrayCatHow do I make a sandbox?
15:45.38Charles_MurrayThey're different message formats. "Start" has the text in the box be centered. "Post" has it be right-adjusted.
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15:45.52GhelaeHello.
15:45.58dromHello Ghel
15:46.02Charles_MurrayCreate a page with the name: "User:AGrayCat/Sandbox
15:46.03Charles_Murray"
15:46.06PurpleBoraillianhello
15:46.23AGrayCatdone
15:46.28AGrayCataha thanks
15:46.43Charles_MurrayHey there
15:47.03Charles_MurrayThen copy-paste the template into there and test it out depending on what input you put in.
15:47.09drommakes a joke about something something baguettes
15:47.41AGrayCatWhat does 'char' mean? If it means font, what fonts are there available to use on the wiki?
15:48.48Charles_Murraycharacter
15:48.52Charles_Murrayi.e., who is speaking
15:48.53Charles_Murrayhttp://pastie.org/private/q7hiy8com9nvsr2ofpcfcq
15:49.02Charles_MurrayHere is a message template that's been fully filled out
15:49.19Charles_MurrayI recommend you paste it into your sandbox so you can see how it turns out.
15:49.50drom"char" is also used to customize the message's header
15:50.11Charles_MurrayAnd here's a very complex one just in case you want some extra tools: http://pastie.org/private/hfgenbpu8v3yy9c15z75ka
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15:51.15dromCharles_Murray: Even more complex here! http://pastie.org/private/noyuumzrbiydrghp1u9giw
15:51.59Charles_Murrayyoo lazy dum
15:52.36dromye, I copied straight outta ta block
15:53.04Charles_MurrayThat too, but I was referring to the fact that it still refers to her by the title of "Queen
15:53.05Charles_Murray"
15:53.21Charles_Murray(Or was that what we went with?)
15:53.59dromHer Imperial Majesty Zaalqoríum, the Empress of the Sovereignty
15:54.57Charles_MurrayAlexandre - Make up your mind!
15:55.32dromZaalqoríum - Nevah!
15:57.25Charles_MurrayIf you want to increase her majesty, you can throw in a bunch more titles in there. xD
15:59.56drom*Zaalqoríum's UNCERTAINTY has increased to level MAXIMIUM*
16:00.34Charles_MurrayKing George III's title was:
16:00.43Charles_Murray"the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch-treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire, etc"
16:01.28dromNow bloat that to Sporewikiverse levels
16:02.36HachimanTitles are cool and nobles know it
16:03.55drom"the least serene and least potent Cumdump Hachi"
16:04.20HachimanAye
16:04.32AGrayCatwhat are all the options you can choose from?
16:05.05AGrayCatand what do color 1, 2, and 3 do?
16:06.40AGrayCatwhat do type and reply do?
16:06.56dromreply is one of the three options for "type"
16:07.04dromthe other two are "post" and "start" iirc
16:07.30AGrayCatit has a left alignment?
16:07.56dromboth reply and post does, start has central text alignment
16:08.02dromdo*
16:08.21AGrayCatthe colours ain't working
16:09.20dromAGrayCat: I recommend you to read this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg#Parameters
16:09.34AGrayCatcharacter isn't showing up now
16:09.52Charles_MurraySend me a link to your sandbox?
16:10.04AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:AGrayCat/Sandbox
16:10.56dromAGrayCat: "black cat" isn't a vaild option for textcolor
16:11.09AGrayCathm
16:11.16AGrayCatah
16:11.23dromThe only vaild alternatives are the names of colors, or a hexadecimal equivalent of color
16:11.27AGrayCatit is for color however.
16:11.28Charles_MurrayThat, and you also set color 1 and color 3 as the same thing
16:11.30AGrayCatoh yes
16:11.33AGrayCatchanging it
16:11.47Charles_MurrayThus, the background and char color are the same thing and can't be distinguished
16:12.21dromThat's why I recommened you to read the parameter documentation
16:14.00AGrayCatfixed it
16:14.14AGrayCatnow all i need is a national emblem (my flag) and a picture of my species!
16:14.19AGrayCatand then i'll be good to go
16:14.45GD12bbl
16:21.38AGrayCatokay I made a talk page for transmissions
16:25.01AGrayCatCharles_Murray: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Glistennaen_National_Republics what do you think?
16:26.53Charles_MurrayVery nice. You'll definitely improve it as time goes on, but as it is it's legible. A lot of templates aren't, especially the first time around. xD
16:27.28Charles_MurrayThe colors work together well too, but they're a little too vibrant. It should be good for now :)
16:27.33AGrayCatbud
16:27.37AGrayCatthey are my national flag colours
16:27.38AGrayCat;-;
16:28.17Charles_MurrayI'm aware. I didn't use France's national colors in my msg template because they were too vibrant as well.
16:29.26AGrayCathm
16:29.34AGrayCatI don't plan to use the same colours for all transmissions
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16:29.39AGrayCatthat is just an introduction
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16:31.06CyrannianHello!
16:31.24OluapPlayer~throw Cyrannian
16:31.25infobotACTION winds up and throws Cyrannian over the moon.
16:31.27AGrayCatCyrannian hi
16:31.39AGrayCatHow do you make those fleet pictures?
16:31.59CyrannianI use the Galactic Adventures expansion, do you have it?
16:32.25AGrayCatindeed
16:33.34CyrannianCool, first you need to go into the Adventure Editor
16:33.42AGrayCatmhm
16:34.17Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Guide_To_Battle_Images - Oh wait, Ghelae's guide will probably be more useful for you
16:34.42PurpleBoraillianhey Cyrannian
16:34.54CyrannianHi there
16:35.29AGrayCatalso
16:35.33AGrayCatone more question on the fiction
16:35.41CyrannianAGrayCat: The key thing you should remember though is that the ships that I use are always gates that are disguised as a vehicle, rather than an actual in-game vehicle
16:35.58AGrayCathm
16:36.12AGrayCatWhat do you think of this so far?
16:36.14AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Glistennaen_National_Republics
16:36.57CyrannianI'll take a look
16:37.03AGrayCatalso
16:37.07AGrayCatquestion about the terran republic
16:38.11AGrayCatHow was this made?
16:38.12AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Terrae01.png
16:38.19AGrayCatThat is what I like most about the pictures you make
16:38.22AGrayCatnot really the battles
16:38.24AGrayCatthe cities.
16:38.29HachimanAdventure Editor in Galactic Adventures
16:38.51AGrayCathm
16:38.54AGrayCathey
16:38.59AGrayCatyou aren't cyrannian
16:39.08CyrannianGlad you like them, but yes I use the Adventure Editor. When you use it with buildings, make sure you make them as small as they can be so the curvature of the planet isn't in the image
16:39.17AGrayCatmmk
16:39.59CyrannianApart from that it's simply a matter of placing the buildings, taking a picture and cropping out the unnecessary parts
16:40.42AGrayCatWhich world template would you suggest?
16:40.57AGrayCatfor building a city
16:41.38CyrannianHm, I don't really have a preference, I just pick one at random
16:43.37AGrayCatalso
16:43.49CyrannianThe Glistennaen National Republics is really brilliant, it has one of the most expansive histories I've seen in a fiction
16:44.04AGrayCatI'm not done with it just yet.
16:44.16AGrayCatI plan to add a tribal stage, creature stage, and cell stage overview also.
16:45.18PurpleBoraillianCyrannian, can my New Idosian
16:45.30PurpleBorailliandarne nter key
16:45.50PurpleBoraillian*enter
16:46.03AGrayCatHow do I delete objects?
16:46.26AGrayCatalso
16:46.29AGrayCatPurple
16:46.30AGrayCatlets chat hmm
16:46.44AGrayCatyour history is kinda short
16:46.49PurpleBoraillianyep
16:47.00PurpleBoraillianstill working on it
16:47.01CyrannianAGrayCat: Just click on it and press the delete key on your keyboard
16:47.09AGrayCattwelve billion and three colonies makes you worse than sealand
16:47.12HachimanPersonally I would reserve tribal, creature, and cell stuff for Creature pages rather than Fiction pages
16:47.12AGrayCatand i'm sealand here
16:47.38AGrayCatThe Glistennaen Republic page will soon be a index for everything to do with the Glistenna.
16:47.50AGrayCatwith sub-pages of course
16:47.56AGrayCatBut history... that should not be moved about.
16:48.00AGrayCatOne location is a good plan.
16:48.36AGrayCatalso
16:48.37AGrayCatPurple
16:48.43AGrayCatYou should have relations with other species.
16:48.55AGrayCatgives you new roleplay fronts
16:49.03AGrayCatand story opportunities
16:49.09AGrayCatand history opportunities.
16:50.01PurpleBoraillianIdealy thats what happens with contact
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16:50.32CyrannianPurpleBoraillian: What was your question about the New Idosian again?
16:51.10PurpleBoraillianSpecifically the New Idosian Republic
16:52.05PurpleBoraillianI would like it to contact the Allied Terran Republic
16:52.23AGrayCatyay
16:52.29AGrayCatthen humanity can make your republic extinct
16:52.36AGrayCatbecause that is what we do to everything we meet
16:52.37Charles_MurrayJust putting this out there, if either of you want to write with me this is my fiction: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Colonial_Empire
16:52.41Charles_Murray^.^
16:52.55AGrayCathmm
16:52.56PurpleBoraillianlet me check it out
16:53.00CyrannianNo problemo, judging by the Idosian page they seem like natural allies
16:53.10PurpleBoraillianyep
16:53.12AGrayCatOne day I actually might write an article on the 'oppressors' of the Glistennaens.
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16:53.52Charles_Murray(If you need more detail on more recent developments, ask me. They aren't on the page yet)
16:53.52CyrannianDo you want me to send a transmission or simply add them to the ATR's page?
16:54.41AGrayCatCyrannian
16:55.11AGrayCatCyrannian: Where do you find 'gates'?
16:55.23PurpleBoraillianprobably the former
16:55.38AGrayCatCharles_Murray: Could the French and the Glistennaens have relations if possible?
16:56.11CyrannianThey are found in the Interactive objects category
16:56.56AGrayCatWhere is that?
16:57.12AGrayCatalso my spore just exploded
16:57.40PurpleBorailliangreat sadness is upon us
16:57.41CyrannianHm, it is a tab on the left side of the screen in the Adventure Editor
16:58.26Charles_MurrayThey could! France has a minor presence in Borealis through a number of charter colonies (settlements run and funded by private companies) which mine Andasium in frontier regions.
16:58.39AGrayCatalso cyrannian
16:58.50AGrayCatHow do you take pictures?
16:59.05Charles_MurrayAGrayCat : It's likely that these colonies would trade for all sorts of essential supplies and engage in diplomacy.
16:59.17AGrayCatCharles_Murray: Hmm... sounds good!
16:59.25PurpleBorailliantake a screenshot
16:59.40CyrannianFirst make use of the "freecam" cheat so you can position yourself. Press "C" on your keyboard to take a picture.
16:59.59CyrannianYou picture will now be found in the My Spore Creations folder
17:00.21AGrayCatcan't find gate thingie
17:00.25AGrayCatWhere is the gate thingie?
17:00.56GhelDo you want to be more descriptive than "thingie"?
17:01.56GhelAlso, you can use Ctrl+Alt+C to activate freecam mode. That might be quicker; I don't know if there are any differences between doing that and entering the cheat.
17:02.20CyrannianI don't think there is
17:02.46PurpleBoraillianI'm going to leave now. If you could send a transmission Cyrannian that would be great.
17:03.01CyrannianRight, writing it now
17:03.44PurpleBoraillianThanks! I'll be back on later.
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17:09.46Wormy_Hi
17:09.53GhelHello.
17:10.42Wormy_Hachiman:  That post reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53c89z5-pug
17:11.46CyrannianHai
17:17.04AGrayCatquestion
17:17.08AGrayCatwhich nation has the most planets
17:17.52HachimanNo accurate statistic can be given
17:18.33AGrayCatSurely one could?
17:19.08AGrayCatWhere is that ranking of superpowers?
17:19.12AGrayCatCharles_Murray:
17:19.45CyrannianBack in the distant past of SporeWiki (2010), there was a lot of stupid competition which caused a lot of arguments, so we decided it's best to keep these things ambiguous.
17:19.48Charles_Murrayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Civilisations_And_Statistics
17:20.18AGrayCatdarn
17:20.38Cyrannianbrb
17:20.40AGrayCatCyrannian: Still can't find the gates? Which icon is it under?
17:20.44AGrayCatoh well
17:21.22AGrayCatno planet amount hmm
17:25.46AGrayCatOkay
17:26.10AGrayCatCyrannian: I found the gates. How do I disguise them?
17:28.49AGrayCatHello?
17:28.53AGrayCatAnyone there?
17:37.09Wormy_I think
17:37.25Wormy_You go to disguise, a sporepedia icon should appear
17:37.40AGrayCatwhere is the disguise button
17:37.40Wormy_Then open up a vehicle in the vehicle editor
17:38.11Wormy_And then go to Sporepedia vagain in the editor, select creature editor, and then click the tick button
17:38.23dino82_ai ai losing ocnnection
17:38.24dino82_......
17:38.25Wormy_Hm, I can't remember precisely but you will find it on the gate GUI
17:38.42Wormy_user interface
17:38.52GhelI'm sure there's a tutorial built into the adventure creator for if you don't know how to use it.
17:39.21Wormy_There are also tutorials on youtube, if you can stay connected.
17:43.13Cyrannianback
17:44.29AGrayCatyay
17:46.29CyrannianDid you work it out? It's difficult to explain when I'm not in game
17:46.35AGrayCatmm
17:46.39AGrayCatone question
17:46.44AGrayCatHow do I make the tiny buildings?
17:46.58AGrayCatalso please send a transmission to the national republic when you can
17:48.43AGrayCatCyrannian:
17:49.17CyrannianSelect the object you wish to resize, hold the "Shift" key and roll the mouse wheel. Roll it up to make the object larger and roll it down to make it smaller
17:52.29AGrayCathow do I make roads?
17:53.33AGrayCatAlso, how do I make those pictures of conferences, etc, meetings?
17:54.08Cyrannianhttp://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/53381.page - Actually this may be more helpful
17:54.56Wormy_You can make roads on the planet editor
17:55.35AGrayCatplanet editor?
17:58.07Wormy_Sorry, terrain editor.  I'm old fashioned, you can access to clicking right button at the top of the adventure editor screen.
17:58.30Wormy_Then you'll find roads as one of the options
17:59.21Wormy_Pre-2008 Spore was supposed to have a proper planet and galactic editor.
17:59.43AGrayCatalso
17:59.44AGrayCatCyrannian:
17:59.52AGrayCatHow did you make the galaxy map?
18:00.15Wormy_Do you want to make a galaxy map?
18:01.02CyrannianThe galaxy map wasn't made in Spore, I found a large picture of the pinwheel galaxy (Cyrannus in real-life) and added the various planets and trade routes found in my fiction
18:01.09Wormy_There are already galactic maps you see.  You can ask people to place your empire on, or you can use an image editing program, but that is more complicated.
18:01.53AGrayCatm
18:01.54AGrayCatmm
18:02.23AGrayCatCyrannian, could you send me a transmission too?
18:03.02CyrannianOf course, what empire would you like the transmission from?
18:04.15AGrayCatNew Cyrannian Republic.
18:04.31AGrayCatalso
18:04.36AGrayCatwhy is galaxy creation now banned?
18:04.52AGrayCat(out of interest, not because i wanted to make one. i like borealis a lot)
18:06.01OluapPlayerEvery person who wanted their own galaxy, which led to a gigantic amount of unused space
18:06.02Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/RIHlt3t
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18:06.14OluapPlayerHi Imp
18:06.25CyrannianIt is only banned in the main Fiction Universe, people are welcome to make as many as they wish in either their own personal universes or other collaborative ones.
18:06.28CyrannianHi Impy
18:07.05AGrayCatmhm
18:07.07ImpyDroidHachiman Wormy_: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1448122452605.gif
18:07.13AGrayCatAlso
18:07.19OluapPlayerImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man/Sublime_Chivalry_of_Aynach the page is done
18:07.25OluapPlayerAlso your human PNG doesn't work
18:07.30AGrayCatCyrannian: What will the transmission say?
18:08.23Wormy_ImpyDroid: http://imgur.com/gallery/Miefa4B
18:08.25CyrannianThat's up to you, would you like to be allied with the New Republic? Or a simple trade agreement, etc
18:08.33Wormy_Also ImpyDroid: http://imgur.com/gallery/RIHlt3t
18:09.06AGrayCatAn alliance would be great.
18:09.14AGrayCatJust don't let our... corruption leak.
18:09.58AGrayCatAre any collaborations currently running?
18:10.11CyrannianSince the National Republics keep corruption and crime under wraps, it's likely outsiders would not be aware
18:10.22Wormy_ImpyDroid:  I dun geddit
18:11.04AGrayCatsome would be aware
18:11.08AGrayCatlike allies.
18:12.40Wormy_Hachiman:  WTF http://imgur.com/gallery/IaqYaLG
18:13.02Hachimanolol
18:14.41AGrayCatCyrannian:
18:17.12AGrayCatok
18:17.16AGrayCathello?
18:18.20CyrannianSent the transmission
18:19.00AGrayCathow should I reply?
18:19.57CyrannianSimply send a reply on the New Republic's talk page: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:New_Cyrannian_Republic
18:21.00AGrayCathmm
18:21.11AGrayCatAre there any collaborative stories right now?
18:22.08AGrayCatHow could we join the accords?
18:23.59CyrannianMy collaborative story can be found here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War           For the Accords, you could request membership in your reply to the New Republic. Then you can add yourself to the page as a member
18:24.26AGrayCatokay
18:26.27Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/IXCVSmQ
18:27.59Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/ODEkwXx
18:28.36Wormy_I once had a note saying someone lost their cat.  No number or address.
18:31.06AGrayCatsent
18:32.47AGrayCatCyrannian: Sent! May we prosper together!
18:34.27CyrannianIndeed! I'll add the Glistennaen National Republic to the list of the NCR's allies and also the MCA page
18:35.21AGrayCati just added it
18:35.42AGrayCatuh
18:35.44AGrayCator just blew it up
18:36.00AGrayCati'll undo my edit
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18:36.12AGrayCatHello!
18:36.20CyrannianHai
18:36.46HachimanHi Imo
18:36.50HachimanImp even
18:36.55AGrayCatimp?
18:37.10AGrayCatok i added it cyrannian
18:37.47CyrannianRightio, I added them here too: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic#Relations
18:38.14ImperiosHachiman: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=323_1429066834 Holy shit this video has just crossed the line
18:38.26ImperiosYou can't be more cartoonishly evil than that
18:38.33ImperiosTwirling moustaches maybe
18:39.28ImperiosIT'S EVEN SUNG IN GERMAN
18:39.35ImperiosNot in Arabic, not in English, IN FUCKING GERMAN
18:39.54OluapPlayerImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man/Sublime_Chivalry_of_Aynach I finished the page
18:40.00OluapPlayerAlso your human PNG doesn't wor
18:40.01OluapPlayerk
18:40.30AGrayCatOluapPlayer
18:40.37AGrayCatCan I still include the Grox as an enemy?
18:40.41HachimanJesus that video
18:40.54HachimanI did not need to see those beheadings again
18:40.59OluapPlayerThe Grox are no longer around
18:41.04AGrayCatwhy not
18:41.08AGrayCatnot even in a grox zoo
18:41.22OluapPlayerThey'd be stupid
18:41.36AGrayCatwhat would?
18:41.48OluapPlayerA Grox zoo
18:42.03Wormy_Hachi, Imperios:  Without clicking what is it?  ISIS beheadings?
18:42.06OluapPlayerThe malevolent Grox Empire fiction has already been defeated
18:42.08ImperiosThat too
18:42.33OluapPlayerRefrain from linking legit murders in public chat, thanks
18:42.35OluapPlayerAlso don't ignore me
18:42.43Wormy_Please
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18:43.07GD12ohai
18:43.11HachimanWormy_: A video released by ISIS singing in German promoting their supporters in Germany and other European countries to kill their non-Sunni Muslim neighbours
18:43.35ImperiosWormy_: ISIS reaching the point where they began looking like James Bond villains
18:43.46ImperiosOluapPlayer: Saw that, quoting right now
18:43.55HachimanSung over a music video consisting of clips of ISIS videos which involve stuff like beheadings and shootings
18:43.59OluapPlayerI need feedback
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18:45.00HachimanWormy__: A video released by ISIS singing in German promoting their supporters in Germany and other European countries to kill their non-Sunni Muslim neighbours, sung over a music video consisting of clips of ISIS videos which involve stuff like beheadings and shootings
18:45.09Wormy__Doesn't surprise me, ISIS use a mixture of modern and ancient ideas
18:45.23AGrayCatISIS are fools.
18:45.35Wormy__They talk about poisoning crops and then running people down with cars in the same sentence
18:45.51ImperiosAGrayCat: No they are not
18:46.00HachimanISIS nasheeds suck though because they do not use instruments
18:46.20AGrayCatHowever not Imperios?
18:46.24HachimanThat and they are generally unpleasant to listen to
18:46.24AGrayCatDo you think they are smart?
18:46.30AGrayCatThey are a bunch of lunatics.
18:46.38HachimanA bunch of smart lunatics
18:46.38ImperiosVery succesful and clever at that
18:46.54ImperiosHachiman: They're fairly eerie
18:46.57AGrayCatWhat would you call 'clever' about their acts?
18:47.08HachimanTheir methods for one
18:47.15AGrayCatyeah no
18:47.29AGrayCatThe Russians have begun air strikes and bombing raids. So have the French.
18:47.30HachimanThey are terrorists and they know they are terrorists; their methods demoralize and terrify people as efficiently as possible
18:47.34AGrayCatThey have a small time left to live.
18:47.36HachimanThat is what they want
18:47.44AGrayCatNo.
18:47.50HachimanThey want people to bomb their territories since so many more innocents living under them die
18:47.54Cyrannianbrb dinner
18:47.59OluapPlayerOh boy, ISIS and political talk again
18:48.03OluapPlayerTime to go
18:48.08AGrayCatWhat they want is to build a caliphate, maybe die in the process, and then go to some sort of heaven.
18:48.16Wormy__AGrayCat:  They are evil, and immoral.  Yes, but their tactics are sly and more modern than previous terror groups in many resp[ects
18:48.23AGrayCateh
18:48.28AGrayCatthey will be wiped out eventually
18:48.31Wormy__That's what Imperios means
18:48.45AGrayCatThey still aren't going to survive.
18:48.58Wormy__They are an ideology though
18:49.07Wormy__and an adaptive one
18:50.13Wormy__If they cause European countries to give away freedom for security, and if they cause polarisation and far right groups to spread racism and fear, then they are winning
18:50.15HachimanThey will run out of time as an organisation but then their ideals will outlast them, as they have existed before ISIS
18:51.01AGrayCatBlame the American government for everything right now to be honest.
18:51.09HachimanThe fact they have managed to survive so long is something of a testament to how good they are at what they are doing
18:51.41AGrayCatTaliban survived a number of years.
18:52.03AGrayCatWouldn't have been in power in the first place if the Russians had done their thing without U.S interference.
18:52.07AGrayCathell
18:52.20AGrayCatthings today wouldn't be happening if we hadn't interfered
18:52.45HachimanNobody here is arguing that the US is not at fault for the Mujahideen and their descendants
18:52.55AGrayCatmhmmmkkkkkkk
18:54.45HachimanI find it kinda funny that ISIS has to use its resources to fight their own drug wars and the fact that they are slowly running out of funding for their soldiers due to their taxpayers escaping into Europe
18:55.26Technobliteratorno, ISIS wants to build a caliphate by making muslims feel so alienated they have no choice but to turn to ISIS
18:56.14Technobliteratorand they claim responsibility for terror attacks they werent even involved in
18:56.58HachimanAye
18:57.22HachimanAnd consider that more people are resorting to Islamophobia, at least in the UK
18:57.37Wormy__It is what they want
18:57.41HachimanYeah
18:58.12Technobliteratorand in the US
18:58.15Technobliteratorwith Trump
18:58.25HachimanYeah but Trump is a racist in general
18:59.10TechnobliteratorI think Trump says half the stuff he says just to get noticed and appeal to racists
18:59.15TechnobliteratorBen Carson is who worries me
18:59.41AGrayCatjew bush is who worries me
18:59.45AGrayCat*jeb
18:59.48Technobliteratornot me
18:59.53Technobliteratorhe has no chance of being elected
19:00.19AGrayCatbut is the only decent republican out there
19:00.23Wormy__The West's response should be to increase tolerant and open minded ideals in society.  Muslims and non-muslims should show their support for each other.  This denies ISIS's goals.
19:00.28HachimanNeeds more Bernie Sanders love
19:00.34Technobliteratoryes
19:00.35Technobliteratoryes please
19:00.45Technobliteratorif he gets voted in when I move to the country then <3
19:01.04TechnobliteratorUnfortunately, I am more likely to end up with Clinton, which will be horrible
19:01.11AGrayCatClinton probably won't win.
19:01.25Technobliteratorwho do you think will?
19:01.30HachimanI remember when Deez Nuts was a candidate
19:02.13HachimanThe scariest thing about Trump is that more and more people are voting for him out of legitimate backing for his cause rather than as jokes
19:02.48Technobliteratornot really scary
19:02.54TechnobliteratorTrump doesn't believe half the stuff he says
19:03.21HachimanBut the people voting for him do
19:03.32Wormy__I'm fed up of seeing right wing bullshit, but also SJW West-hating bullshit that says supporting Western ideals is White Supremacy.  And I'm fed up of people crying how bad it is and not actually taking action.
19:03.55Wormy__That's on facebook
19:04.07Wormy__They put a flag up on their profile and then feel better
19:04.12TechnobliteratorSJWs are ironically the most privileged people on the planet
19:05.04Wormy__On the other hand there was a muslim in Nottingham with a sign saying "Will you hug me", and that kind of activism is good imo
19:05.08Wormy__bbl
19:05.54Cyrannian|awayback
19:08.41ImperiosThe world is crumbling around us as we speak
19:09.08ImperiosThese bastards - Neo-Nazis, Islamists, far leftists - they will be out downfall
19:12.21HachimanWhere is King Arthur when you need him
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19:14.48Cyrannian|awayImperios: Do you still play SWTOR?
19:15.01ImperiosHaven't played in a while
19:15.55Cyrannian|awayYou should play the new expansion, tis all kinds of awesome
19:22.44AGrayCathi cyrannian
19:23.25AGrayCatwanna hear a joke
19:23.30CyrannianGo ahead
19:25.06AGrayCateh i can't remember
19:25.13Cyrannianhur brb
19:25.13AGrayCatdo you know any fiction universe jokes?
19:25.44Cyrannian|Awayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Pictures/Memes - You might like this page
19:29.13GhelThat page is so old it still says "Antediluvian".
19:29.41TechnobliteratorSTRAIGHT OUTTA GROODRUB
19:29.53GhelAlso the Leziacrab picture got deleted. I do remember that; I think it was Oluap. Probably for the best really.
19:29.56AGrayCatAntediluvian?
19:30.40AGrayCatremember i'm ne
19:30.40GhelEmperor of the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus. Now called Tyromairon.
19:30.41AGrayCatnew
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19:35.05Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/12291302_824765490968974_9072850892812477903_o.jpg
19:35.15HachimanImp might enjoy this one
19:35.31Technobliteratorugh
19:35.40Technobliteratorwhy do console makers charger for online gameplay
19:35.47TechnobliteratorAlso, looks like I am getting a 3DS after all
19:35.49AGrayCatuh what
19:35.56AGrayCatthat comic is.. uh
19:35.57Imperioshur
19:36.52TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, Hachiman, games? On my list currently is that Zelda OoT remake, NSMB2, a Pokemon game, and then other random stuff I want it for
19:36.53OluapPlayerImperios: What do you think of the page
19:36.57Technobliteratorlike Bravely Default
19:37.10ImperiosI wish I could make pages as fast as you hur
19:37.13HachimanMonster Hunter 4 Ultimate
19:37.16ImperiosIt's quite nice
19:37.17OluapPlayerDitch NSMB2
19:37.18HachimanAnd Super Smash Brothers
19:37.20OluapPlayerGet Monster Hunter 4U
19:37.34TechnobliteratorDitch it? But I adored NSMB1 :c
19:37.46OluapPlayerIt's the same thing but with coins
19:37.48TechnobliteratorSm4sh I'm considering
19:37.54OluapPlayerNSMB is Nintendo's CoD
19:37.56HachimanSm4sh is fun
19:38.16OluapPlayerImperios: Also the PNG you gave me doesn't work
19:38.17HachimanAlso try out Fire Emblem
19:38.24TechnobliteratorFire Emblem
19:38.26HachimanAwakening and Fates
19:38.30TechnobliteratorThat's another thing I wanted to get
19:38.43Technobliteratorbut am not sure because I'm not really into SRPGs
19:38.53AGrayCathi
19:39.02Hachimandunt act a fool
19:39.25AGrayCathi
19:39.48OluapPlayerSRPG
19:39.49OluapPlayerWhat that
19:39.54TechnobliteratorI still kind of want NSMB2. Even if it is the same as NSMB1, I played NSMB1 like 9999 times.
19:39.58TechnobliteratorStrategy RPG
19:40.20OluapPlayerRight
19:40.26Hachiman>condemns CoD >Praises NSMB
19:40.36OluapPlayerGet it if you want, but don't expect anything different from the first one
19:40.40OluapPlayerBut get Monster Hunter
19:40.47OluapPlayerSo you can play with me and Hachi
19:40.53Hachimanyee
19:41.03TechnobliteratorI'm not expecting it to be revolutionary, I'm just expecting it to be fun
19:41.05Technobliteratoroh, sure
19:41.24AGrayCathi all?
19:41.34HachimanThen I can shout at your for having your Felyne be a bomb cat and getting us blown up during a hunt
19:41.40Hachimanshout at you even
19:41.46Technobliterator:V
19:41.57AGrayCathello?
19:42.03Technobliteratoryou're here
19:42.11OluapPlayerIf we play with 3 people then our cats won't be present
19:42.21OluapPlayerCats only appear if we're playing as a duo
19:42.31HachimanOh
19:43.23HachimanAlso Jo, I gotta good idea for what you should get
19:43.34Technobliteratoroh, I kind of want to get Mario 64 DS on 3DS
19:43.35TechnobliteratorOh?
19:43.42OluapPlayerThat's a good one too
19:43.56HachimanA Tumblr blog
19:44.00Technobliterator._.
19:44.16OluapPlayerDon't shitpost while we discuss Monster Hunter pls
19:44.24Technobliteratorlemme guess, about kitchens and sandwiches?
19:44.58AGrayCati'm here
19:45.11HachimanYes, that way you will either garner motivation from Tumblrettes who will want you to stop being oppressed, or attention from angry SJWs hur
19:45.25OluapPlayerWhy are you even saying this
19:45.27OluapPlayerShut up
19:45.42OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: When you have a chance of choosing a weapon type in an action RPG, what do you prefer? Slow but strong? Fat but weak? Mid-term?
19:45.52TechnobliteratorHm
19:46.13AGrayCatwe need more people to talk :(
19:46.43HachimanEither way go with Switch Axe so you can trip Oluap and launch him in the air cus its funny
19:46.46TechnobliteratorMost of the RPGs I play are turn based as opposed to action ones, but I do tend to go for melee weapons
19:47.18OluapPlayerSo you can trip Oluap and eat Tigrex's charge because you're too incompetent to dodge
19:47.19Technobliteratorbut I also like fast weapons
19:47.32OluapPlayerMonster Hunter has several melee weapons who are all mechanically different from each other
19:48.43OluapPlayerLong Sword, Dual Blades, Charge Blade and Insect Glaive are all fast-hitting melee weapons
19:49.04OluapPlayerYou use Dual Blades if you wanna go MGR on the monster
19:49.21AGrayCatDo people do nation collaborations?
19:49.24Technobliteratorwhat are dual blades like?
19:49.28Technobliteratorooooooh
19:49.49OluapPlayerVery fast hitting daggers
19:49.50TechnobliteratorAGrayCat, yes
19:50.01HachimanWhich also have a "demon mode"
19:50.09HachimanWhich means you can deal more damage
19:50.17AGrayCatlinks?
19:50.18HachimanAt what cost, I cannot remember
19:50.29OluapPlayerGenerally deal low damage, but if you're good you can charge up the "demon mode" meter which increases your damage
19:50.44OluapPlayerBasically, keep hitting the enemy, dodge his attacks perfectly and you get rewarded
19:51.01TechnobliteratorI quite like the sound of this :o
19:51.17OluapPlayerThe drawback is that they eat Sharpness the fastest out of all weapons
19:51.28OluapPlayerSo you'll be stopping to use Whetstones a lot more
19:51.56OluapPlayerWeapons have a sharpness meter, which serve both as a damage bonus and to determine whether your attack can penetrate the monster's hide
19:52.01AGrayCatWould anyone be willing to collaborate?
19:52.07OluapPlayerSharpness too low = your weapon bounces off harmlessly
19:53.02OluapPlayerThe Long Sword doesn't attack as fast as the Dual Blades, but it's much safer since you don't have to stand as close to the monster
19:53.31OluapPlayerThe Charge Blade and Insect Glaive are the more complex weapons, you should leave them for when you're comfortable with the game mechanics
19:53.54OluapPlayerI have nearly 250 hours in this game and I have no idea how to use the Charge Blade
19:54.12TechnobliteratorI see
19:54.28TechnobliteratorDual Blades sounds most interesting so far, but I could check out the Long Sword as well
19:54.38OluapPlayerYou should start out with the Sword and Shield
19:54.48OluapPlayerIt's the most newbie-friendly weapon in the game
19:54.53Technobliteratoroh
19:54.54Technobliteratorsure
19:54.57OluapPlayerIt's no slouch either at the hands of a good player
19:55.00AGrayCat"Would anyone be willing to collaborate?"
19:56.01Technobliteratoroff semester, I'll be playing FFXIV, but during semester, MH sounds like a good game to replace it without feeling like I have to spend so much time it'll eat into studies
19:56.21OluapPlayerThe harder hitting weapons are the Greatsword and the Hammer. The Greatsword deals the most damage of all melee weapons but it's SLOW as molasses, and the Hammer can stun monsters via blows to the head but is also sluggish and leaves you defenseless
19:57.17TechnobliteratorGreatsword might also be neat
19:57.46OluapPlayerGreatsword is the weapon you use when you know all of the monster's weakspots so you can exploit them
19:58.07OluapPlayerThere are also ranged weapons. Light bowgun, Heavy bowgun and Bow
19:58.16Technobliteratorno magic?
19:58.17Technobliterator:c
19:58.22OluapPlayerThey're not too good to use solo because you need to buy ammo for them if you want to do any damage
19:58.32OluapPlayerThere are magic-infused weapons, but no magic class
19:58.40OluapPlayerWeapon class, even
19:59.12OluapPlayerFor example, take Rathalos. He's a fire wyvern. Weapons made from his parts deal fire damage, which is good against ice monsters
20:00.06OluapPlayerThe game is, for the most part, low fantasy
20:00.19OluapPlayerIt only reaches high fantasy when you're fighting the monsters known as Elder Dragons
20:00.43Technobliteratorahh
20:00.45Technobliteratorfair enough
20:00.51Technobliteratorthe enemy designs I've seen look neat
20:01.09OluapPlayerThe Elder Dragons are basically the big badass legendary actually-magic monsters
20:01.33OluapPlayerOne of them happens to be an unicorn, but they call it an Elder Dragon too because reasons
20:02.45OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTWfwoMk2pQ meet the series mascot
20:04.01Technobliteratorwooooah
20:04.02Technobliteratorthat was neat
20:04.19OluapPlayerHe's an awful fight, you're gonna hate it hur
20:04.41OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGuHLrmcdwI meet his much more tolerable wife
20:06.50Technobliteratorthese cutscenes are pretty sweet
20:07.25OluapPlayerThey are, if you compare them to older games, your character actually participates in it
20:07.34OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggPTTHHWIW4 this is the first true "boss" monster you'll encounter
20:08.43OluapPlayerGiant chicken dragon
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20:11.51Technobliteratorgraphics kinda remind me of MGS3
20:12.12OluapPlayerThe graphics are rather eh
20:12.18OluapPlayerBut then again, it's a 3DS game
20:12.19Technobliteratorwell
20:12.24Technobliteratorit's a 3DS game
20:12.25Technobliteratoryeah
20:12.27OluapPlayerc
20:12.52OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Me0vItRtcM if you get far enough, then your enemies will become marginally more intimidating
20:14.57AGrayCatso
20:15.02AGrayCatWould anyone like to collaborate?
20:18.30TechnobliteratorI do like the enemy design
20:19.57OluapPlayerYeah the series has good design
20:20.03OluapPlayerSome fights are bad but the designs are good
20:25.02OluapPlayerIn case any monster in particular strikes your fancy, I can tell you about it
20:26.13OluapPlayerI can also tell you how much Hachi sucks at fighting it hur
20:31.17Hachimaninb4 Zinogre
20:36.01OluapPlayerIf you like Zinogre then you're officially an EDGY
20:38.56AGrayCatwell
20:38.59AGrayCatreally
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20:46.04AGrayCatfew questions
20:46.09AGrayCatWhat happens to Mars?
20:47.40HachimanColonized by human-engineered aliens
20:51.11Wormy_Will play an important role in Rights of Earth version 2 I suppose
20:51.43OluapPlayerRights of Earth, the fiction that will never progress ever
20:52.05Wormy_Not so this time!
20:52.17Wormy_Other people are in control of it now
20:52.27Wormy_It can be free'd from my laziness
20:52.54Wormy_Ghel and Liquid in particular
20:53.11OluapPlayerIn that case the blame should be moved to them, since it's still not progressed :v
20:53.35GhelMore Liquid than me. Not that either of us are known for our speedy fiction writing.
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20:53.47OluapPlayerSpeaking of fiction
20:54.00DrodoEmpireHi everyone
20:54.00OluapPlayerWormy_: Do you want to be part of the Corruptus Dalek thing me and Ghel have been discussing?
20:54.14GhelHello.
20:54.19HachimanSo the Corruptus Dalek thing is going ahead
20:54.22Wormy_Yeah, its been a long time since Liquid added his next part to the DCP-Vermulan war
20:54.22HachimanI am eager for this
20:54.35Wormy_Sure, I'm up for it
20:54.41OluapPlayerWell I want it to, but so far we  only have a very rough plot sketch
20:55.14OluapPlayer"Corruptus Dalek is up to no good, are you man enough to stop it"
20:55.17OluapPlayerThat's as far as it goes
20:55.40HachimanIs this gonna be canon?
20:55.48AGrayCatalso
20:55.53AGrayCatHow do I make a spore account?
20:56.00HachimanDon't need to
20:56.02AGrayCatIt keeps saying it can't create a darned spore account.
20:56.04HachimanSporepedia is down anyway
20:56.31OluapPlayerWell yes
20:56.36OluapPlayerI don't make non-canon stories
20:56.40Wormy_All other fanfiucs so far have been, though explained within the SporeWikiverse frame (Daleks really being Neanderthals, etc.)
20:56.52HachimanHuh sweet
20:56.55ImperiosOluapPlayer: Hm
20:56.56AGrayCatI could bring up a colourful selection of words for this malfunctioning system...
20:56.58AGrayCatgrrrr
20:57.04ImperiosLet me try to give you the Freelander human png
20:57.07AGrayCatI'm even using my origin account!
20:57.13OluapPlayerSeveral hours later
20:57.17HachimanOh wow, Origin
20:57.26AGrayCatactually I'm playing on steam
20:57.26HachimanShould've used Steam
20:57.31OluapPlayerSporepedia is not down anymore
20:57.54AGrayCatI'm making an article for Glisten-Home.
20:58.06AGrayCati'm gonna need help with a planet map.
20:58.25HachimanCan't help you there
20:59.21AGrayCathmm
20:59.26AGrayCatI'll call in Cyrannian later.
20:59.59OluapPlayerNow could be a chance to use a DCP warlord you haven't used much yet
21:00.00AGrayCatHe did Mou'Cyran and a lot of cool stuff.
21:00.16OluapPlayerA warlord would maybe stand some chance against a demonic Dalek
21:00.35HachimanI wanna get involved ;-;
21:00.51OluapPlayerYou could, but as what?
21:01.30HachimanI dunno, I haven't thought that far
21:01.37HachimanIt's taking place in the Milky Way I assume
21:01.49OluapPlayerPresumably
21:02.00HachimanI'd use Hachi but then he'd be suffering from overuse
21:06.56Wormy_Oluap:  Could be Titanozor, he has already fought some Daleks and scared them
21:08.21CyrannianHi chaps and chapettes
21:08.27OluapPlayerTitanozor is a good choice
21:08.38OluapPlayerHe has experience with the Corruptus
21:08.55AGrayCatCyrannian
21:09.07AGrayCatCould you do a picture of Glisten-Home's surface from space?
21:09.23AGrayCatlike the Mou'Cyran one.
21:10.10CyrannianSure, I'll have a go at it next time I'm on Spore. What does it look like?
21:10.25AGrayCatlush terra-style
21:10.27AGrayCata LOT of water
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21:10.34AGrayCatone moon
21:11.28Wormy_Not sure if that story exists anymore, but Titanozor beamed aboard a saucer with an antimatter grenade or something-like that, shouted at the Daleks, and they even moved back a little bit
21:11.42AGrayCathmmhmmm
21:11.44AGrayCatriight
21:11.52AGrayCatWhy are Daleks in the fiction universe?
21:12.09AGrayCatalso
21:12.10GhelWormy_: That was Second Ottzelloan Galactic War, and Jo's not got around to retconning that yet.
21:12.15Wormy_Some of us like crossovers
21:12.20GD12There was a crossover thing too
21:12.24GD12with more than just the daleks
21:12.32AGrayCatCyrannian: A picture of the moon too please? It is also lush, with a lot of water
21:12.35GD12there was even a blog question here once about how would your empires fare against the daleks
21:12.40AGrayCatterribly
21:12.44CyrannianAlrightie
21:12.51Wormy_Girdo Campaigns, and some of the Dominatus's Herald armies
21:13.09GD12aye
21:13.15OluapPlayerI generally don't like crossovers but I thought it'd be cool
21:13.16AGrayCatthe military is designed for fighting pirates and the offensive on tiny empires
21:13.16ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6e/Human.png/revision/latest?cb=20151121211306 Try thhis
21:13.16GD12some of my overseers have some crossover stuff
21:13.26OluapPlayerSo how you have a nigh invulnerable, demonic tin can
21:13.26GD12like a very small amount
21:13.37Wormy_They are only very light crossovers
21:13.50Wormy_And we SporeWiki-fy them too
21:13.54GD12^
21:14.01GD12And they never take away the spotlight from the main things
21:14.04AGrayCatcrossovers to what?
21:14.08GD12a lot of things
21:14.19AGrayCatPrivate fictional projects included?
21:14.39GD12i don't think so
21:14.42AGrayCatmmk
21:14.50AGrayCati just had an idea for the glistennaens
21:15.03OluapPlayerWiki and real world series
21:15.04HachimanNgh I wanna get Hachi involved
21:15.12OluapPlayerIn this case, Wiki and Doctor Who
21:15.25OluapPlayerThen get him involved
21:15.31GD12aye also some star trek and star wars
21:15.33HachimanBut it'd be overusage
21:15.38GD12here was the crossover fiction http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Girdo_Campaigns
21:15.40AGrayCatI'll give you what I thought could be a small idea:
21:15.42Wormy_And B5
21:16.02AGrayCatPrevious enemies of the Glistennaens come back for round two, stalemate ensues.
21:16.15HachimanActually screw it, I don't wanna miss out a chance on this fic
21:16.19HachimanCount Hachi in
21:16.19AGrayCatwould have given me a nice story too
21:16.21GD12And aside from crossovers there are a lot of shoutouts to other fiction and things inspired by other fiction
21:16.23OluapPlayerImperios: The PNGs you're sending me are larger than normal
21:16.49AGrayCatWhat are you talking about Hachi? What fic?
21:16.56HachimanThe Dalek one
21:17.11AGrayCatoo
21:17.15AGrayCatI thought it had finished?
21:17.35OluapPlayerIt didn't even start yet
21:18.02OluapPlayerSo me, Ghel, Wormy, Hachi and Cyrannian
21:18.04AGrayCatoh
21:18.07OluapPlayerI think that's enough people
21:18.09ImperiosOluapPlayer: What size are they?
21:18.11Technobliteratorwhat fiction is this?
21:18.17OluapPlayer200 x 200
21:18.19Hachiman>Prepares to face off against Dalek     >Forgot to bring a tin opener
21:18.23OluapPlayerSpore PNGs are 128 x 128
21:18.33GD12huhu
21:18.37OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: A Corruptus Dalek
21:18.41GD12i can imagine hachi riding around in a flying saucer
21:18.46Technobliteratorwoah
21:18.48GD12which has a tin can opener at the tbototm
21:18.49Technobliteratorthat sounds sweet
21:19.08GD12and he uses his ears as helicopter like propulsion
21:19.12HachimanOh wow hur
21:19.17ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Human.png Try this
21:19.41OluapPlayerNow it worked
21:19.50OluapPlayerCan you try sending the clothed Mannazian again?
21:20.58Technobliteratorso
21:21.09Technobliteratoris this Corruptus Dalek fiction actually happening?
21:21.15Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Mannazian_Human_(3).png Try this
21:21.22OluapPlayerLike I said, I'm trying to make it happen
21:21.34AGrayCatWhat happened to good ol' Antarctica?
21:21.39GD12AGrayCat : It might be an interesting plot point if the most powerful elements of your fiction's police are either governement secret police or cartel troops
21:21.40HachimanWhenever Hachi gets involved in anything, it becomes a magical girl/boy anime
21:21.45OluapPlayerIt worked
21:21.45GD12in keeping with the crime aspect of the fiction
21:21.47OluapPlayerPraise Isiris
21:22.00GD12i think there was a mexican cartel formed almost exclusively out of ex-mexican sepcial forces troops
21:22.02AGrayCatWhat plot point GD12?
21:22.11AGrayCatfor what plot?
21:22.19GD12well i mean for your fiction in general
21:22.24GD12seeing as how crime and corruption are big themes
21:22.26AGrayCatalso, what happened to antarctica? :(
21:22.27AGrayCatIndeed.
21:22.30OluapPlayerHachiman: "I will stop you, Dareku-sama"
21:22.30AGrayCatThey are secret police.
21:22.55HachimanAntarctica is probably as cold as it ever was
21:23.07AGrayCatlol
21:23.14GD12Perhaps the secret police and the top enforcers of the criminal organizations are given Gigaquadrantic level equipment (from the arms market) and training
21:23.20OluapPlayerSo we got Titanozir and Hachi, who at this point has already ascended
21:23.21GD12so they can bully and overpower all the gooddoers
21:23.22Technobliteratorcan I be in if there aren't too many people :o
21:23.24GD12in your empire
21:23.33OluapPlayerI think the Corruptus Dalek has reached his equals
21:23.35AGrayCatbuddy
21:23.35HachimanSo a warlord and a demigod
21:23.43AGrayCatCrime is the government by this point.
21:23.46OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: rite, we'll squeeze you in
21:23.57GD12aye so the secret police and the enforcers are one organization
21:23.58Technobliteratorwoooo
21:24.24OluapPlayerGhel Wormy_: I assume you're both okay with Hachi, Cyrannian and Jo participating
21:24.29GhelYes.
21:25.17Technobliteratoralso, I will make a Loron History of this after the event
21:25.39OluapPlayer"DERE WAS DIS MAD AF TIN CAN SCREEMIN AT EVERYUN"
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21:26.34CyrannianI'll use my new jedi gurl Aoirtae
21:26.57OluapPlayerDo Daleks have individual names?
21:27.05GhelNot usually.
21:27.22OluapPlayerGuess we should just call him something Entropic Dalek then
21:27.27TechnobliteratorWell, the Cult of Skaro did
21:27.27OluapPlayersomething like*
21:27.41Technobliteratorand then there's Davros, but he's kind of an exception
21:28.13OluapPlayerI'm controlling a Dalek yet I have no idea what Daleks are like
21:28.15HachimanDaleks usually have single syllable names
21:28.21OluapPlayerBy the end of the story I can see half of the wiki very angry at me
21:28.22AGrayCatBack
21:28.35Technobliteratoryou can always read the Tardis Wiki :o
21:28.41OluapPlayerdats borin
21:28.47Technobliteratorya moms borin
21:28.49AGrayCatOkay
21:29.12Hachimanhttp://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek dis
21:29.17OluapPlayeris borin
21:29.35Technobliteratorwell
21:29.44AGrayCatOkay
21:29.51Technobliteratoryou can use the excuse of "oh the Corruptus twisted it so much it's different now"
21:30.10OluapPlayerThat is a plot point
21:30.20HachimanLook at the "Biology", "Antomy", "Society and Culture", and "Dalek Technology" parts
21:30.21AGrayCatThe rules say nothing about crossovers to private fictions for articles not being allowed apparently. Could any staff provide a different opinion if possible?
21:30.35OluapPlayerIt wants to enslave other Daleks, but because it's been turned into a demon, it acts very different from the others
21:31.01OluapPlayerSo it decides to stop playing nice and just brainwashes everyone into servitude
21:31.59OluapPlayerIts goal is to create a whole empire of demonic Daleks to serve as an attack force of the Corruptus, and I doubt people want an entire army of nigh-invulnerable demon Daleks screaming at you
21:32.35Technobliteratorhm
21:32.40HachimanIt could have found, or could be looking for, a Genesis Ark
21:32.43Technobliteratorhow do we get the Rogue Boyz to join this war
21:32.54Technobliteratornot that they will need that much persuading
21:33.06Technobliterator"this tin can demon called you fat"
21:33.13OluapPlayerGenesis Ark
21:33.14OluapPlayerwat dat
21:33.29HachimanGenesis Arks are like containers for pocket universes which contain untold masses of Daleks to preserve their numbers for a later date
21:33.40DrodoEmpireGrayCat: Fanfiction stuff is a weird area I think
21:33.41Hachimanhttp://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Genesis_Ark
21:33.51AGrayCatOkay!
21:33.52DrodoEmpireI'm not too experienced in that area as I avoid doing stuff like that
21:34.05AGrayCatI just figured out a perfectly open area on how to get private projects in!
21:34.19OluapPlayerI think that'd lead to too many Daleks
21:34.28AGrayCatwhat would
21:34.31HachimanEh I don't think so
21:34.41Technobliteratorit wouldnt if he never finds the Ark
21:34.56HachimanThe Genesis Ark in the TV show only had the number of Daleks fill up the stretch of London
21:35.07OluapPlayerIt could look for one, but finding one would be dangerous
21:35.11OluapPlayer"the would-be eternal imprisonment for millions of Daleks."
21:35.19OluapPlayerMillions are a lot
21:35.35OluapPlayerUnless the empires have a reliable way to kill a million Daleks
21:35.41Technobliteratorwell
21:35.54TechnobliteratorI think the Rogue Boyz might be strong enough to kill a Dalek if they get close
21:35.54GD12an army of men with corkscrews and can openers
21:36.00Hachimanhur
21:36.01Technobliteratorbut getting close would be the hard part
21:36.02GhelEven if it finds it the Ark still has to open it.
21:36.03DrodoEmpireOn the scale of interstellar warfare a million isn't too much, no matter what it is
21:36.06DrodoEmpire:p
21:36.15HachimanThat's the thing; Daleks cannot open Arks
21:36.18Ghelif the Dalek finds the Ark the Dalek still has to open the Ark*
21:36.22OluapPlayerWhy Da Rogue Boyz and not UNO?
21:36.29OluapPlayerI don't see them fitting
21:36.46TechnobliteratorUNO could be involved too, but Rogue Boyz are more fun
21:36.55OluapPlayerThis is not for fun
21:37.05OluapPlayerIt's a srs bsns plot
21:37.09HachimanNo fun allowed
21:37.22Technobliteratorit can be a srs bsns plot and still have Rogue Boyz in it
21:37.31DrodoEmpire"No fun allowed", said the Garry'
21:37.32OluapPlayerNot as major players
21:37.44Technobliteratorsure
21:37.44DrodoEmpire*garry's mod admin before banning someone
21:37.54HachimanI think one plot point was that a Dalek requires a Time Lord or someone with contact with a Time Lord to open it
21:38.01HachimanOr just anyone other than a Dalek
21:38.09OluapPlayerEntropic Dalek - I HAVE 9D DEMON GODS
21:38.25GD12oh thats true
21:38.30HachimanYeah
21:38.46OluapPlayerThe Entropic Dalek will have Corruptus Demons as his troops too
21:38.54GD12yeah for team / party style fiction it might be better for the main goal being the prevention of opening the evil ark of destruction
21:38.59OluapPlayerIf all it takes is a non-Dalek, a random Malcaeum could open the Ark
21:39.00GD12as opposed to killing a million daleks
21:39.18GD12might want to adapt it to the swverse
21:39.22GD12and make hachiman the key to opening it
21:39.44OluapPlayerhachi eint key of anything
21:39.48HachimanHachi accidentally touches it
21:39.51HachimanLeads to armageddon
21:40.03OluapPlayerEntropic Dalek - THANK YOU MAGIC ANGEL VIRGIN
21:40.13Technobliteratormaybe the Dalek could like for the Vida'Rranlora to find out where it is or how to open it
21:40.30HachimanI was gonna suggest that a Chronoscopic-sensitive could be lured or captured into opening it
21:40.30GD12AGrayCat : check the link i sent you on pm, it has ideas for your fiction's secret police if you're interested
21:40.31OluapPlayerThey wouldn't help a demon
21:40.42HachimanBecause timey wimey stuff
21:40.52OluapPlayerThey'd also have enough firepower to just destroy it altogether
21:40.59AGrayCatthanks GD12
21:41.04GhelRemind me how the Cult of Skaro opened their Genesis Ark?
21:41.12HachimanRose Tyler touched it
21:41.25HachimanBecause Time Lord / Bad Wolf stuff that I cannot remember
21:41.27Technobliteratorshe had voidstuff in her
21:41.32Technobliteratoror something
21:41.38Technobliteratorit was like when she became some immortal goddess
21:41.45Technobliteratorat the end of the ninth doctor's season
21:42.08Technobliteratora Chronoscopic sensitive could do it
21:42.15Technobliteratormaybe the Rogue Boyz could be tricked into doing it
21:42.18Hachimannon
21:42.26HachimanRogue Boyz don't fit hur
21:42.30OluapPlayerBut I thought the idea is that we DON'T want the Ark to be open
21:42.53HachimanWell if I recall, the Ark has a countdown before it opens
21:43.06HachimanLike, it requires time to open even after being unlocked
21:43.51OluapPlayerwat ur point]
21:43.55GhelSo the Entropic Dalek tries to trick a Chronoscopic-sensitive to open the Ark. It might succeed, but it needs to be stopped before the Ark's opening is actually complete.
21:44.02HachimanAye
21:44.06HachimanWhich adds tension
21:44.15OluapPlayerWhy a Chronoscopic-sensitive?
21:44.22HachimanBecause time tech
21:44.25OluapPlayerWhy not a random demon?
21:44.37TechnobliteratorChronoscopic is the closest we have to timey wimey stuff from Doctor Who
21:44.44OluapPlayerHm
21:44.49Technobliteratorhell, we could even say the Time Lords are the Taldar's servents
21:44.52OluapPlayerGood point I guess
21:45.10GhelThat's the main reason. And also, making it a random demon would make it too easy for the Dalek who has an army of demons on its side.
21:45.11ImperiosHachiman: Just curious, what do you think we should do with al-Baghdadi if we ever capture him
21:45.12OluapPlayerThe Taldar's personal silly human aliens
21:45.28OluapPlayerExactly, I needed a reason why the Dalek couldn't just use the demon
21:45.34HachimanImperios: Imprison him
21:45.39OluapPlayerIt would logically go for the easiest option
21:45.50Technobliteratorit could go for Brag'klogga
21:45.56ImperiosAnd feed him bacon in prison hur
21:46.00Hachimanhur
21:46.17HachimanExecuting him would be giving him what he wants
21:46.29HachimanThey do not fear dying; so have him suffer in life
21:47.16Technobliteratorhm
21:47.36Technobliteratorone thing, I'll PM you
21:47.39HachimanI don't imagine a Corruptus demon having access to Chronoscopic timey wimey stuff
21:48.09OluapPlayerZargoth - ayy lmao *opens ark*
21:48.17Technobliteratornow that Kolossus is gone, probably not
21:48.25TekDroidWormy_: Well my first attempt at Space Engineers planetary survival ended with my base heavily damaged and most of my starting ships destroyed. >.>
21:48.48Wormy_Sounds like a chaotic game
21:49.05OluapPlayerWormy, do you have any ideas for the plot?
21:49.10HachimanThere could be a group of Daleks which have not been brought under the Entropic Dalek's sway and are attempting to stop him
21:49.25HachimanMainly because they do not enjoy the idea of being controlled by anything other than a Dalek
21:49.45OluapPlayerEntropic Dalek - FILTHY CASUALS
21:50.13Wormy_Oluap:  Not much for the plot yet
21:50.20HachimanThose Daleks could be the ones making calls to others to come and stop the Entropic Dalek
21:50.22OluapPlayerFeel free to contribute
21:50.31Wormy_I have been thinking about the backstory.
21:50.40OluapPlayerActually the plot starts with the Entropic Dalek attacking Apalos
21:50.46Hachimanrite
21:50.53Wormy_You can't have Daleks without Time Lords...  Who could be the Ancient humans
21:50.54OluapPlayerFor what reason, I can't quite remember
21:51.03OluapPlayerI think it was to find where the normal Daleks are hiding
21:51.08OluapPlayerfind out*
21:51.08TechnobliteratorWormy_, I think the Time Lords could be affiliated with the Taldar
21:51.14Wormy_And they could both be connected to Jo's Taldar fic in some way
21:51.19Technobliteratorninja;d
21:51.20Technobliterator;D
21:51.26Wormy_Yeah
21:52.00Wormy_Howabout them being the ancient humans (who are also the ASncient Humanoids in ST and Alterans in Stargate)
21:52.06Technobliteratorwhat galaxy was Gallifrey in?
21:52.11HachimanMilky Way I believe
21:52.23Wormy_Of course they don't have to be
21:52.40Wormy_ancient humans if that is too complicated with Gallifrey to consider
21:52.46HachimanActually wait
21:53.24HachimanIt resided in the Kasterborous constellation, which is in the Mutter's Spiral
21:53.29HachimanWhich is the Milky Way
21:53.55Technobliteratorhm
21:54.31HachimanAnd if I am reading right, Gallifrey is near the galactic core
21:55.17GhelWhich taking SporeWiki into account means the DCP should have attempted to conquer it by now.
21:55.44HachimanOh wait, excuse me
21:55.51HachimanGallifrey is currently not anywhere in realspace
21:55.55HachimanBecause Time War stuff
21:56.01HachimanIt resides in a pocket universe
21:56.16GhelCurrently, yes.
21:57.36AGrayCatmhmmm hello everyone
21:57.46Technobliteratortrying to think of how the Time Lords could be involved with the Taldar without cheapening it
21:58.14AGrayCatokay
21:58.18HachimanTime Lords could just be a massive cult of ancient humans dedicated to the Taldar
21:58.20AGrayCatI'm making a personal fiction. Is that okay?
21:58.24HachimanYes
21:58.28AGrayCatthank you
21:58.32AGrayCatI'm writing it up as I speak.
21:58.34Technobliteratorthat sounds good
21:58.35AGrayCator type rather
21:58.42Technobliteratorthey could have been old allies with them
21:58.55Technobliteratoror used their artifacts to create TARDISes
21:59.05HachimanAye
21:59.46OluapPlayerEntropic Dalek - MY WORSE ENEMY. THE TELEPHONE BOX.
22:00.05HachimanThe Doctor's TARDIS is only a telephone box because it's got a malfunctional part
22:00.21HachimanUsually they appear as something that would not seem out of place in whatever environment they end up
22:02.59HachimanOluapPlayer: Is it possible that, since the Entropic Dalek will have Corruptus demons as part of its army, that Hachi and Cairo can meet?
22:04.01OluapPlayerI want to focus the story on the Entropic Dalek, so probably not
22:04.06HachimanAlright
22:13.29AGrayCatCyrannian:
22:16.31CyrannianYup?
22:16.41AGrayCatWanna talk?
22:17.06AGrayCatI've started a query.
22:18.15CyrannianWhat's your query?
22:18.30AGrayCatI have started one.
22:20.37PurpleBoraillianI gave a response on the talk page, Cyrannian, so you know.
22:20.49AGrayCatpurple
22:20.56AGrayCatI'll send you a transmission too if you don't mind?
22:21.09PurpleBorailliansure
22:21.14CyrannianAh yes, I saw the transmission and added them to the Terran's relationship section
22:21.23PurpleBoraillianthank you
22:22.02CyrannianI'll add them to the MCA page too
22:22.42PurpleBoraillianthanks!
22:25.12AGrayCatalso
22:25.14AGrayCatCyrannian
22:25.27AGrayCatNational Republic won't be colonising anywhere
22:25.32AGrayCatwe strictly stick to Borealis
22:25.48CyrannianNo problemo
22:25.58AGrayCatas part of Defense Plan no.1
22:26.17AGrayCatwhich is pretty much the only thing going to save the Glistennaens in the little timeline I'm making
22:30.36AGrayCatdarn
22:30.37AGrayCathe left
22:30.42AGrayCatand i had finished the transmission too
22:33.34AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Into_the_Madness
22:33.35AGrayCatuh
22:33.41AGrayCatsomeone might want to explain things to the new guy
22:33.49DrodoEmpireOh sorry
22:33.58DrodoEmpireYeah silences just sorta happen
22:34.00DrodoEmpireSorry about that
22:34.22DrodoEmpireThough I have to restart my computer
22:34.57AGrayCatalso
22:35.04AGrayCatI've got an idea for space-austria
22:45.11AGrayCathttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Xylar_Warlords should be the new bad starter empire
22:47.32CyrannianBye!
22:47.51dromWormy_: Matt Damon is certainly the most expensive human to recuse.
22:50.26AGrayCatEh?
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22:53.33The_RandomnessHello
22:53.56Wormy_drom:  lol
22:55.05AGrayCatwho is the_randomness
22:55.15The_RandomnessI am me.
22:55.22AGrayCatusername on wikia?
22:55.29The_Randomnesssame one
22:56.04AGrayCatWho founded the wikia by the way?
22:56.25The_RandomnessI don't remember
22:57.11AGrayCatdarn
22:57.13AGrayCatso
22:57.17AGrayCatthe wikia forgot its history
22:57.23dromDoesn't matter anyway
22:58.16AGrayCatsounds a bit orwellian to forget history
22:59.32The_RandomnessDoes it really matter if we don't remember who created the wiki? That person is inactive now, and has been for many years. All it is at this point is just a fun fact
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23:01.03AGrayCatand i like fun facts
23:01.05AGrayCatbecause they are fun.
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23:04.26AGrayCathi
23:04.33The_RandomnessHello
23:05.03AGrayCathmm
23:05.12AGrayCatSo
23:05.17AGrayCatShall we talk? I have not seen you before.
23:05.38AGrayCatAlthough your page... says you have been around for a long time.
23:06.30AGrayCatI'm AGrayCat on the wiki.
23:07.16dromThe oldest guy around here is OluapPlayer
23:07.18AGrayCathmm
23:07.41AGrayCatwell
23:07.44AGrayCati have to be off now
23:07.51AGrayCati'll be on tomorrow
23:15.21Technobliteratorhi random
23:15.32The_Randomnessayyy
23:16.50dromOh, I owe you a greeting, Random...
23:16.51dromhai
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23:19.06AdmiralPandahi all
23:19.17dromhi
23:19.32The_Randomnessayy
23:20.37GD12hi

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