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| 00:16.23 | DrodoEmpire | Back] |
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| 01:13.53 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 01:36.16 | DrodoEmpire | $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$SMALL LOAN OF A MILLION DOLLARS$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
| 01:49.05 | Purpleboraillian | Heh heh heh |
| 01:50.57 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
| 01:50.59 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 01:51.10 | DrodoEmpire | Also |
| 01:51.21 | DrodoEmpire | Haven't seen you around much I don't think. How are you? |
| 01:51.41 | Purpleboraillian | I am fine, and you? |
| 01:51.48 | DrodoEmpire | I'm good, thanks |
| 01:51.51 | DrodoEmpire | Any fiction plans? |
| 01:51.57 | Purpleboraillian | yep |
| 01:52.06 | DrodoEmpire | Coo. |
| 01:52.08 | DrodoEmpire | *Cool |
| 01:52.13 | Purpleboraillian | building my republic |
| 01:52.31 | DrodoEmpire | Okay cool |
| 01:52.34 | DrodoEmpire | Page up yet? |
| 01:52.46 | Purpleboraillian | kind of |
| 01:53.03 | DrodoEmpire | Kind of? XD |
| 01:53.06 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean? |
| 01:53.42 | Purpleboraillian | I mean I havent' added as much as I will |
| 01:54.16 | DrodoEmpire | Right right |
| 01:54.22 | DrodoEmpire | So its under construction |
| 01:54.29 | Purpleboraillian | yes |
| 01:54.29 | DrodoEmpire | Mind if I see it still? I could offer advice |
| 01:54.37 | Purpleboraillian | sure |
| 01:54.55 | DrodoEmpire | Okay cool |
| 01:54.57 | DrodoEmpire | Link? |
| 01:55.08 | Purpleboraillian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Idosian_Republic |
| 01:55.17 | Purpleboraillian | there you go |
| 01:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks! |
| 01:57.50 | DrodoEmpire | Looks fine thus far |
| 01:57.55 | DrodoEmpire | Keep up the good work! |
| 01:58.11 | Purpleboraillian | thanks! |
| 01:58.12 | DrodoEmpire | (Also our fictions are in the same galaxy. We could do diplomacy if you wish later) |
| 01:58.18 | Purpleboraillian | sure |
| 01:58.38 | Purpleboraillian | sounds great |
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| 02:38.53 | DrodoEmpire | "Wank bank" is a phrase |
| 02:38.56 | DrodoEmpire | What a world to live in |
| 02:42.30 | Purpleboraillian | Good bye all |
| 02:42.46 | DrodoEmpire | Bye |
| 03:22.21 | drom | So we just had a fire in our basement >.< |
| 05:23.57 | Tek0516 | O.O |
| 05:24.07 | Tek0516 | ~test |
| 05:24.07 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny |
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| 08:32.05 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink Wormydroid: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1447997378054.jpg |
| 08:35.20 | Wormydroid | NSFW? |
| 08:36.15 | Wormydroid | Oh wait, thats fine |
| 08:36.20 | Wormydroid | Wtf lostmodernism |
| 08:36.25 | Wormydroid | Post |
| 08:38.22 | Wormydroid | Of all the things to worry about |
| 08:44.04 | ImpyDroid | TROPICAL |
| 08:45.18 | Wormydroid | *Tr**ical you shitlord |
| 08:46.23 | Wormydroid | Triggered |
| 08:46.59 | ImpyDroid | MOUNTAINOUS |
| 08:47.03 | ImpyDroid | COASTAL |
| 08:47.13 | ImpyDroid | INSULAR |
| 08:47.17 | Wormydroid | Now time for student protest and demand privilidge acknowledgment |
| 08:48.11 | Liquid_Ink | These people are a lunatic fringe, but neckbeards would have us believe this is standard fare to try and discredit any threat to their white male thrones. |
| 08:48.19 | ImpyDroid | Yep |
| 08:48.29 | ImpyDroid | These guys are a disgrace to the left |
| 08:51.29 | Wormydroid | Sensitiviry training for you |
| 08:52.17 | Wormydroid | Im a leftie but even the left can be authoritarian |
| 08:52.41 | Wormydroid | Right |
| 08:52.42 | Wormydroid | I think I dont like Amy authoritybleft or rifht |
| 08:52.50 | Wormydroid | Any |
| 08:52.56 | Wormydroid | Bbs |
| 08:56.48 | Liquid_Ink | What? |
| 08:57.04 | Liquid_Ink | I though England invented English but there's none coming from you boy |
| 09:03.07 | Wormydroid | Trying to type while walking. |
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| 11:04.57 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
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| 11:17.13 | drom | So this fire in our basement turned out to be an arson attempt according to local police. |
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| 11:23.02 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 11:24.19 | drom | Hi |
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| 13:01.59 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 13:06.45 | AGrayCat | Hi |
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| 13:20.23 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
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| 13:58.02 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 14:51.04 | AGrayCat | hello |
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| 14:55.02 | AGrayCat | Hello? |
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| 15:03.55 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 15:04.33 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 15:07.07 | AGrayCat | hmm |
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| 15:41.17 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 15:54.07 | AGrayCat | hi |
| 16:05.45 | Imperios | Hiya |
| 16:06.51 | AGrayCat | Hiya |
| 16:11.59 | AGrayCat | Imperios ? |
| 16:12.06 | Imperios | Hi |
| 16:12.11 | Imperios | You wanted something? |
| 16:24.35 | AGrayCat | someone to talk to :( |
| 16:25.02 | Imperios | Ah I get that feel sometimes |
| 16:25.34 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 16:25.50 | Wormy_ | Just been on a run and managed to outrun a storm |
| 16:27.09 | AGrayCat | Hi! |
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| 16:27.16 | AGrayCat | Oh hi other person |
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| 17:01.52 | AGrayCat | hi |
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| 17:05.39 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:05.42 | AGrayCat | hello |
| 17:06.22 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 17:06.33 | AGrayCat | hi! |
| 17:14.49 | TekDroid | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1448036500-20151120.png |
| 17:24.13 | AGrayCat | huh |
| 17:27.48 | Wormy_ | TekDroid: I bought Space Engineers |
| 17:27.59 | TekDroid | Cool |
| 17:28.07 | Wormy_ | Not gonna play till after a submission date though :P |
| 17:28.14 | TekDroid | lol |
| 17:29.21 | Wormy_ | I was sold on my friend'a adventures in it, capturing starships and making them crash into his planet for salvage; trying to build hydrogen and ion engines so he can leave the planet; attempts to build a space elevator, and so on |
| 17:29.31 | AGrayCat | May I ask what it is? |
| 17:29.56 | Wormy_ | Sure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Engineers |
| 17:30.09 | Wormy_ | Its 50% the price on Steam for the next couple of days |
| 17:30.15 | AGrayCat | "is a voxel-based sandbox game set in an asteroid field in space. " |
| 17:30.16 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 17:30.54 | TekDroid | Wormy_: It's an interesting game, and planets was an exciting new feature |
| 17:31.14 | Wormy_ | I bet |
| 17:31.26 | TekDroid | I haven't played planets much, but even though they're scaled down from RL they really feel big. |
| 17:31.50 | TekDroid | Though the game's maximum speed limit contributes. >.> |
| 17:31.58 | AGrayCat | Bigger than Spore planets? |
| 17:32.06 | AGrayCat | right now a city is amusingly small |
| 17:32.23 | AGrayCat | or large depending on where you view it from |
| 17:32.31 | Wormy_ | Yes, I think they are bigger. And I'm told Earth-like planets and have several biomes |
| 17:32.42 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 17:33.08 | TekDroid | Planets are 120km and moons are 19km |
| 17:34.58 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 17:35.16 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: What does "Tout a coup" mean? |
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| 17:35.30 | Imperios | All to strike? |
| 17:35.45 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 17:36.26 | Imperios | I'm asking Charles_Murray, who is our local French-American politicologist, to translate some French stuff for me |
| 17:37.09 | TekDroid | It's really developed since I bought it in Alpha and even if it's only bug fixing sometimes there's an update every week usually with content. :P |
| 17:37.58 | AGrayCat | m |
| 17:38.18 | AGrayCat | Who are you on the wiki? |
| 17:38.37 | Imperios | Me/ |
| 17:38.39 | Imperios | ? |
| 17:39.57 | AGrayCat | TekDroid |
| 17:40.01 | AGrayCat | no results come up. |
| 17:40.07 | AGrayCat | you however... results do. |
| 17:43.55 | Imperios | Tek0516 is the name |
| 17:44.25 | AGrayCat | m |
| 17:45.26 | AGrayCat | so |
| 17:48.22 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 18:02.20 | AGrayCat | so |
| 18:06.04 | AGrayCat | Is there anything I could do on the fiction universe? |
| 18:07.09 | Wormy_ | That's up to you |
| 18:07.35 | AGrayCat | mhm |
| 18:07.41 | AGrayCat | very well |
| 18:07.46 | Wormy_ | If you find a current collab fiction you like - and you have some fiction pages of your own - you are ready to join. |
| 18:10.37 | AGrayCat | well then |
| 18:11.00 | AGrayCat | I'm writing up a tiny empire. |
| 18:11.16 | Wormy_ | Imperios: http://imgur.com/gallery/2k7aAAm |
| 18:16.24 | AGrayCat | What would you think of me writing up a dystopia Wormy_? |
| 18:21.37 | Wormy_ | I'd have to read it to comment on that, but any subgenre works in the fiction universe |
| 18:21.45 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 18:21.51 | AGrayCat | I'm making it more of a secret dystopia. |
| 18:22.00 | AGrayCat | The idea is that it is a happy fun democracy on the surface |
| 18:22.08 | AGrayCat | and then a lot of corruption and crime underneath |
| 18:23.49 | Wormy_ | Ah, a http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsaccharineWorld |
| 18:25.02 | AGrayCat | That would accurately describe it. |
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| 18:31.09 | Xho | Wow dead crowd |
| 18:31.48 | Ghelae | ~give Xho a cookie |
| 18:31.48 | infobot | ACTION gives Xho a home-baked peanut butter cookie to cheer him up. |
| 18:31.58 | Ghelae | Good choice of cookie there as usual. |
| 18:32.22 | Xho | So no one says hello and then you give me a fatal cookie |
| 18:32.28 | Xho | What kinda place is IRC today |
| 18:33.13 | AGrayCat | oh hello |
| 18:36.03 | AGrayCat | I'm AGrayCat! |
| 18:36.09 | AGrayCat | but you probably already knew that because of my name |
| 18:53.24 | AGrayCat | Mr. Xho ? |
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| 19:10.35 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 19:10.37 | AGrayCat | HAI |
| 19:10.40 | AGrayCat | Hai |
| 19:11.08 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/5CPuX18.png?1 I made a Fantasyverse version of Tyraz - Khorijin Sorocan Khulan |
| 19:11.39 | AGrayCat | woah |
| 19:11.43 | AGrayCat | Where did you make that? |
| 19:11.46 | Hachiman | Hope he looks Mongolian enough |
| 19:11.47 | Hachiman | Spore |
| 19:11.55 | Hachiman | Admittedly using the Dark Injection parts |
| 19:11.58 | AGrayCat | ah |
| 19:12.11 | AGrayCat | one more reason to be annoyed with my own skills in spore |
| 19:12.19 | AGrayCat | Nice work! |
| 19:12.25 | Hachiman | Thanks, glad you like |
| 19:22.19 | Imperios | Needs lamellar armour and huge cap |
| 19:22.26 | Imperios | Also moustache |
| 19:22.41 | Imperios | Oh wait he has a moustache |
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| 19:23.11 | Hachiman | It's difficult to make lamellar armour in Spore hur |
| 19:23.53 | Hachiman | Also good luck putting a cap on a Tuungar / Zazane |
| 19:24.10 | Hachiman | This is why I don't have Zazane wear helmets because their heads are weird hur |
| 19:24.47 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://spacer176.deviantart.com/journal/Stepping-back-from-Sporewiki-573290496 This might concern you |
| 19:25.02 | Imperios | Huh |
| 19:25.23 | Imperios | And I have just come up with a few ideas |
| 19:25.40 | Imperios | Admittedly me having stalled Andromeda for years might have put him on the edge |
| 19:26.06 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 19:26.17 | AGrayCat | Someone is leaving the fiction universe? |
| 19:26.25 | Imperios | Our old friend |
| 19:26.28 | Imperios | Well, my old friend |
| 19:26.35 | Imperios | Hachi and Mon used to be friends but then |
| 19:26.45 | Hachiman | We still talk |
| 19:26.50 | Imperios | Well, let's just say Mon was always the haughty type |
| 19:27.08 | Hachiman | So am I though hur |
| 19:27.13 | Hachiman | Admittedly in a different way |
| 19:28.43 | Imperios | Mon is the haughty emo artist guy, Hachi is the angry angsty writer guy, I am the whiny childish narcissist guy |
| 19:29.37 | Imperios | We were the trio of emos who wrote the most emo fiction in the universe |
| 19:29.47 | Hachiman | kek |
| 19:29.54 | Imperios | The last time we worked together, the ending was about the galaxy literally exploding |
| 19:30.13 | Imperios | Emo love stories, overwrought monologue and the like |
| 19:31.47 | Hachiman | They were fun |
| 19:31.51 | Hachiman | Note; were |
| 19:32.04 | AGrayCat | Hmm |
| 19:32.11 | AGrayCat | a depressing ending |
| 19:32.23 | AGrayCat | both to the last story and the story altogether |
| 19:33.17 | Imperios | I wish I'd continue them but I lack both the time and the drive |
| 19:33.24 | Imperios | And I sure as hell won't continue them without Mon |
| 19:34.58 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 19:35.57 | AGrayCat | I'm nearly done with my current fiction. |
| 19:36.18 | Hachiman | Fiction is never done |
| 19:36.20 | Hachiman | You can always expand |
| 19:36.45 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 19:36.49 | AGrayCat | the original you could say |
| 19:39.36 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/ZnGZNxE.png?1 How is this for more Mongolian hur |
| 19:40.04 | AGrayCat | Question: Do you take requests? |
| 19:40.08 | Imperios | Glorious hat |
| 19:40.08 | Imperios | Is good |
| 19:40.22 | Hachiman | When I have the time |
| 19:40.30 | Hachiman | What did you have in mind? |
| 19:40.38 | Imperios | Looking at his clothes it looks like the more sexy version of Mongol clothing hur |
| 19:40.56 | Hachiman | They're Zazane expies and Zazane like showing off their body |
| 19:41.01 | Hachiman | What do you expect hur |
| 19:41.57 | AGrayCat | cat-shaped brown-styled with black eyes |
| 19:42.03 | AGrayCat | brown coloured |
| 19:42.15 | Hachiman | So a cat |
| 19:42.22 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 19:42.23 | AGrayCat | not really |
| 19:42.28 | AGrayCat | just cat-shaped |
| 19:42.37 | Hachiman | I only really do humanoids |
| 19:42.44 | AGrayCat | Eh |
| 19:42.46 | Hachiman | Or at least, stuff with humanoid stature |
| 19:42.50 | AGrayCat | Humanoid cat-shaped? |
| 19:43.15 | AGrayCat | lizard-style eyes |
| 19:43.33 | AGrayCat | pointed ears |
| 19:45.04 | Hachiman | So an anthro cat thing |
| 19:45.50 | AGrayCat | Calling it a cat... would be a stretch. |
| 19:46.00 | AGrayCat | More of a cat with snake and bird characteristics. |
| 19:46.05 | Hachiman | Right |
| 19:46.15 | Hachiman | Imperios: I am wondering if I should use "Khan" as a term used among the Tuungar or whether that would be too obvious |
| 19:46.28 | Imperios | Well there is always Khagan |
| 19:46.31 | Imperios | Or Kagan |
| 19:46.41 | Hachiman | Khagan is good |
| 19:46.47 | Hachiman | What would be used for Great Khan hur |
| 19:47.05 | Imperios | Khagan does kind of means "Great Khan" |
| 19:47.36 | Hachiman | Right |
| 19:47.46 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 19:47.46 | Hachiman | What would I use for stuff like regional kings/governors and such |
| 19:47.59 | AGrayCat | You are making a Mongolian thing? |
| 19:48.04 | AGrayCat | Do you have a link? |
| 19:48.12 | Hachiman | Not yet |
| 19:48.17 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 19:48.23 | AGrayCat | Which galaxy? |
| 19:48.28 | Hachiman | None; for the Fantasyverse |
| 19:48.45 | AGrayCat | ah. |
| 19:49.03 | AGrayCat | a space mongolian empire would have been interesting to say the least |
| 19:49.11 | Hachiman | We have a few horde empires like that |
| 19:49.23 | Hachiman | Cannot bring up specific examples right now |
| 19:49.38 | Hachiman | Also I read on your page that you have Mongolian ancestry |
| 19:49.41 | AGrayCat | indeed |
| 19:49.56 | AGrayCat | and not mongol empire ancestry |
| 19:50.00 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 19:51.57 | AGrayCat | Is there an official status on FTL travel in the Fiction Universe? |
| 19:52.33 | Hachiman | It's available to a lot of empires, although wormholes are required for intergalactic travel |
| 19:52.44 | Hachiman | And are often used for intergalactic travel on occasion as well |
| 19:53.23 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 19:55.17 | AGrayCat | What officially happened to Earth in the Fiction universe? |
| 19:55.28 | AGrayCat | I can't find much on after the 21st Century.. |
| 19:55.36 | AGrayCat | apart from the asteroid and space travel |
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| 19:56.02 | Hachiman | Humanity has divided into various intergalactic/interstellar factions and Earth has been largely left alone after two episodes of radical terraforming |
| 19:56.07 | Imperios | AGrayCat: I have them |
| 19:56.17 | Imperios | A space Mongol empire that is |
| 19:56.25 | Imperios | It's also kind of Japanese-ish though |
| 19:56.30 | AGrayCat | Link please? |
| 19:56.31 | Hachiman | I thought the Artharons were space Japan |
| 19:56.38 | Imperios | They are a mix |
| 19:56.40 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 19:56.44 | AGrayCat | So Earth is abandoned? |
| 19:56.56 | Hachiman | One accomplished by Neanderthals who froze the Earth as a revenge plot against humanity (long story), and one where humanity reverted it back and cured all of the detrimental effects they had done to it in the past as well |
| 19:56.57 | Ghel | The future of Earth is something that's being very slowly worked on (a rewrite of one of Wormy's old incomplete stories, Rights of Earth). In short, some distaster happened and it was abandoned in the 26th century. |
| 19:57.20 | Ghel | That Neanderthal revenge plot is part of Rights of Earth. |
| 19:57.34 | AGrayCat | uh |
| 19:57.39 | AGrayCat | well |
| 19:57.44 | AGrayCat | that sounds |
| 19:57.48 | AGrayCat | interesting to say the least |
| 19:58.01 | Imperios | They're honourbound, feudal and crazy with weapons but they are also kind of primitive, led by charismatic khan-esque rulers and there are TONS of them |
| 19:58.49 | Hachiman | Would "Noyons" be a correct term to use for regional lords and governors and such in UoK's territory or would Khan be more appropriate |
| 19:59.42 | Hachiman | Actually I dunno why I am shying away from the term Khan, I guess I just didn't want it to be obvious but then I am also using blatantly obvious other terms as well hur |
| 20:00.10 | Imperios | I was about to suggest that |
| 20:00.33 | Imperios | You could also use "Tumen-bashi", but this was a more military term |
| 20:00.42 | Imperios | Or "Temnik" which is the Russian adaptation of the term |
| 20:01.14 | Hachiman | Tumen-bashi? |
| 20:01.25 | Imperios | Literally "Lord of the tumen" |
| 20:01.30 | Hachiman | My knowledge on the Mongol Empire is shamefru |
| 20:01.38 | Imperios | Tumen being Mongolian (or Turkic, not sure) for 10,000 |
| 20:01.47 | Imperios | So a guy who rules over 10,000 soldiers |
| 20:02.00 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 20:02.05 | Hachiman | That's pretty cool |
| 20:02.34 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 20:02.53 | AGrayCat | What happens to Antarctica? |
| 20:02.54 | Imperios | There' a problem though, it is kinda similar to "Turkmenbashi" |
| 20:02.55 | drom | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkPXLPIbIQY |
| 20:03.02 | Hachiman | Turkmenbashi? |
| 20:03.18 | drom | I feel like shit, some useless shit. |
| 20:03.41 | Imperios | You know the dictator guy |
| 20:03.45 | Imperios | In Turkmenistan |
| 20:03.53 | Hachiman | Ooh |
| 20:04.42 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 20:05.18 | AGrayCat | Is it okay to include 'foreign' plot devices in your fiction that you never mention ever again apart from in your history? |
| 20:05.36 | Hachiman | Such as? |
| 20:05.54 | *** join/#sporewiki GD12 (427591e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.117.145.231) |
| 20:06.12 | AGrayCat | I made a small thing and I want to use it briefly in my history |
| 20:06.27 | AGrayCat | i designed it 100% |
| 20:06.30 | GD12 | Hey |
| 20:06.34 | Hachiman | What is it? |
| 20:06.36 | Hachiman | Hai GD |
| 20:06.38 | GD12 | Are you a new user AGrayCat? |
| 20:06.49 | AGrayCat | :( |
| 20:06.52 | AGrayCat | Yes, I am. |
| 20:06.59 | AGrayCat | A project I once designed. |
| 20:07.21 | Hachiman | Eh if you mean pertaining to images, we prefer stuff made in Spore |
| 20:07.26 | AGrayCat | not an image at all |
| 20:07.36 | AGrayCat | just a name |
| 20:07.38 | AGrayCat | and just a name |
| 20:07.43 | Hachiman | What's the name? |
| 20:07.48 | Ghel | Is there any reason why you think it wouldn't be allowed? |
| 20:08.05 | AGrayCat | I'm not going to write an article on it? |
| 20:08.14 | Hachiman | Just tell us hur |
| 20:08.16 | Ghel | You don't have to write an article on every detail you mention. |
| 20:08.18 | AGrayCat | hur? |
| 20:08.20 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 20:08.46 | Ghel | Basically, as long as it doesn't go against http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Guidelines#Guidelines_and_Rules you're fine. |
| 20:08.52 | GD12 | hur means lol in sporewiki speak |
| 20:09.10 | GD12 | i mean basically you can write anything that isn't explicit porn on here |
| 20:09.13 | Hachiman | Imperios: Khorijin needs a demented necro-mage brother, like an evil version of Teclis, to fill in for Moxix |
| 20:09.18 | GD12 | or anything that isn't extremeley offensive to irl things |
| 20:09.37 | Ghel | Oh yes, also don't break Wikia's terms of use. |
| 20:09.45 | Imperios | Ya |
| 20:09.51 | Ghel | Don't break the law; stuff like that. |
| 20:09.52 | AGrayCat | explicit? that err... worries me that you allow normal stuff of that sort then. |
| 20:10.02 | Hachiman | Evil insane Mongolian necromancer |
| 20:10.16 | AGrayCat | not real worry |
| 20:10.20 | AGrayCat | but more of a eh. |
| 20:10.31 | GD12 | lol |
| 20:10.35 | GD12 | Its quite rare though |
| 20:10.38 | Hachiman | In basic; yes you are allowed, so long as it is not offensive |
| 20:10.47 | GD12 | yea as long as its offensive go for it |
| 20:10.49 | Hachiman | And if it is, we will let you know |
| 20:10.49 | GD12 | use common sense |
| 20:10.52 | GD12 | and if in dobut |
| 20:10.54 | GD12 | we'll let you know |
| 20:10.56 | GD12 | ^^ |
| 20:13.43 | AGrayCat | ok |
| 20:14.24 | GD12 | a general rule of thumb is that unless you're going out of your way to offend people |
| 20:14.26 | GD12 | the content is probably fine |
| 20:18.15 | AGrayCat | What do you think about me making my empire-thing purposefully fail in the history by the way? |
| 20:18.26 | AGrayCat | Would it be plausible for it to recover within a few centuries? |
| 20:18.51 | Hachiman | Yeah probably |
| 20:18.58 | GD12 | Yes of course empires have dark ages and bad points |
| 20:19.13 | Hachiman | It wouldn't be realistic if they didn't have faults |
| 20:19.30 | GD12 | Furthermore most empires are built upon a lot of violent change and chaos |
| 20:19.32 | AGrayCat | yes |
| 20:19.37 | GD12 | Its not like they'll have remained static from day 1 |
| 20:19.53 | AGrayCat | And it is a plot device to the eventual formation of the National Republic. |
| 20:22.45 | Hachiman | "Hyena Gets A Nasty Surprise When He Tries To Eat An Elephant Through The Anus" |
| 20:22.47 | Hachiman | I bet he did |
| 20:23.14 | GD12 | eck and i was about to gt lunch |
| 20:24.42 | AGrayCat | but? |
| 20:25.12 | Imperios | He could be a shaman guy communing with the spirits of the dead |
| 20:25.19 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 20:25.32 | Hachiman | I was under the impression the Tuungar would have shamans |
| 20:26.39 | Hachiman | I wonder if Fantasy!Moxix would be his own entity like in the Fictionverse or if he would be with the Ulus of Khulan |
| 20:27.02 | AGrayCat | so |
| 20:27.19 | AGrayCat | Since my National Republic is in the Borealis Galaxy |
| 20:27.22 | AGrayCat | when I am done with it |
| 20:27.27 | AGrayCat | well not done |
| 20:27.31 | AGrayCat | but finished the original draft |
| 20:27.33 | Hachiman | Did you ask permission for it? |
| 20:27.36 | AGrayCat | Indeed. |
| 20:27.41 | AGrayCat | I have full permission. |
| 20:27.45 | Imperios | Actually now that I think about it Mongols burn their dead so he would have a hard time raising undead |
| 20:27.46 | Hachiman | Sweet |
| 20:28.01 | AGrayCat | What local collaborative fictions are there right now? |
| 20:28.19 | Hachiman | Not very many if I recall |
| 20:28.25 | GD12 | Great Xonexian Schism |
| 20:28.28 | Hachiman | Imperios: You gotta point there |
| 20:28.34 | Hachiman | Borealis isn't involved in the Schism |
| 20:28.37 | AGrayCat | darn |
| 20:28.44 | GD12 | you probably have better luck making collabs with other new fictions |
| 20:28.48 | GD12 | *you'll |
| 20:29.07 | GD12 | Remember that theres more to the fictionverse than ultra-massive collabs |
| 20:29.16 | AGrayCat | not ultra-massive ones |
| 20:29.18 | AGrayCat | local ones |
| 20:29.26 | Hachiman | Not very many |
| 20:29.30 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 20:29.30 | Wormy_ | Imperios, Hachiman: I can understand where Monet is coming from. If you want a fiction universe that follows logical outcomes dynamically, then our's is not the one for that. What it reflects is our fantasies |
| 20:29.57 | Wormy_ | So in some cases, there will be missed opportunity etc. |
| 20:30.14 | Hachiman | Monet's a piss baby who thinks that SW is ruined because Borealis and Cyrannian exist and do not want to conform to his views as to how a fiction should be written |
| 20:30.38 | Hachiman | His mindset is that since nobody is having fun the way he wants them to, SW is condemned |
| 20:31.45 | Wormy_ | If its not for him, then I can see why he is leaving. |
| 20:32.05 | Hachiman | He'll be back |
| 20:32.44 | Wormy_ | I don't quite agree SporeWikiverse is all good vs. evil, that's his bias. People have strived to add more themes since the beginning |
| 20:33.15 | Wormy_ | I took a long period when I tried to add speculative SF elements |
| 20:33.49 | AGrayCat | who is Monet? |
| 20:34.01 | GD12 | a user |
| 20:34.02 | GD12 | protip |
| 20:34.06 | GD12 | don't get involved in SW politics |
| 20:34.15 | AGrayCat | and i'm in borealis now so why does he not like borealis? |
| 20:34.33 | Hachiman | Because he doesn't like Oluap |
| 20:34.50 | Hachiman | Too many personal reasons to explain further |
| 20:35.03 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 20:35.14 | AGrayCat | Personal reasons? Hating fiction for personal reasons? |
| 20:35.14 | AGrayCat | well |
| 20:35.23 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (adfc264b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.252.38.75) |
| 20:35.24 | GD12 | again protip don't get involved in wikipolitics |
| 20:35.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 20:35.35 | GD12 | hey! |
| 20:35.38 | DrodoEmpire | Oh dear |
| 20:35.41 | DrodoEmpire | what's going on? |
| 20:35.44 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 20:35.49 | AGrayCat | Who is DrodoEmpire? |
| 20:35.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi! |
| 20:35.53 | DrodoEmpire | Me! :D |
| 20:35.59 | Hachiman | That is DrodoEmpire |
| 20:36.01 | GD12 | an Empire of Drodo of course |
| 20:36.04 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:36.19 | AGrayCat | Drodo? |
| 20:36.23 | DrodoEmpire | In all seriousness, I'm a moderator here. |
| 20:36.25 | DrodoEmpire | My fiction |
| 20:36.30 | AGrayCat | ah |
| 20:36.35 | DrodoEmpire | Just a name I started using a few years ago. |
| 20:36.36 | AGrayCat | Fiction or Fantasy Universe? |
| 20:36.43 | DrodoEmpire | Science fiction universe |
| 20:36.46 | DrodoEmpire | So the first |
| 20:37.02 | DrodoEmpire | To be fair they're a smidge old-timey at that |
| 20:37.03 | AGrayCat | oo |
| 20:37.31 | AGrayCat | 200 years old |
| 20:37.37 | AGrayCat | How old are the Empires on average? |
| 20:37.45 | DrodoEmpire | Oh it depends *gretaly* |
| 20:37.48 | Hachiman | Several hundred to several thousand years old |
| 20:37.48 | DrodoEmpire | *greatly |
| 20:37.54 | AGrayCat | I plan for my little creation to be in its modern form around 800 years old. |
| 20:37.57 | AGrayCat | so... young then? |
| 20:38.00 | DrodoEmpire | That's fair yeah |
| 20:38.03 | GD12 | thats compatively young |
| 20:38.07 | GD12 | and yeah fair |
| 20:38.14 | Hachiman | GD12 Xho Imperios: What do you call a lesbian dinosaur? Lickalotapus |
| 20:38.25 | Imperios | Don't make it imagine this |
| 20:38.25 | GD12 | ahah |
| 20:38.25 | DrodoEmpire | Keep in mind most human nations don't last longer than a thousand |
| 20:38.48 | AGrayCat | human nations only last for a few hundred years or so because of one reason |
| 20:38.55 | AGrayCat | you need a darn good democratic system |
| 20:38.59 | AGrayCat | or a strongman |
| 20:39.01 | DrodoEmpire | Err |
| 20:39.01 | drom | Xho Hachiman: (NSFW) http://i.imgur.com/x7eeHTM.webm |
| 20:39.01 | GD12 | even when human nations last longer than that |
| 20:39.02 | DrodoEmpire | No |
| 20:39.10 | GD12 | there re very drastic regime changes |
| 20:39.16 | AGrayCat | a strongman... can keep an empire together in my opinion. |
| 20:39.21 | DrodoEmpire | There's many reasons as to why states rise and fall but that's beside the point |
| 20:39.22 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 20:39.24 | GD12 | drom : i saw that |
| 20:39.27 | Hachiman | olol |
| 20:39.39 | DrodoEmpire | So depending on the attitudes and mentality of your species(s?) it political entities may last longer or shorter then human ones |
| 20:39.46 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 20:39.54 | DrodoEmpire | Also of course whether its institutions are sound |
| 20:39.56 | DrodoEmpire | More importantly |
| 20:40.26 | AGrayCat | I plan for a devastating civil war in my creation a few hundred years before the present day. |
| 20:40.34 | GD12 | aye makes sense |
| 20:40.43 | DrodoEmpire | Okay cool |
| 20:41.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: BTW are you familiar with the sky burial tradition? |
| 20:42.07 | Hachiman | I only ever heard of it |
| 20:42.12 | Hachiman | I do not know what it is |
| 20:42.50 | Imperios | It's more of a Tibetan thing but Mongolians also do this |
| 20:42.59 | Imperios | It's less recent - AFAIK it's Buddhist |
| 20:43.09 | Hachiman | wot is is |
| 20:43.14 | Imperios | Basically you take the corpse to high mountain or a tower |
| 20:43.15 | Hachiman | is it even |
| 20:43.24 | Imperios | Then you leave the body to be eaten by predators |
| 20:43.28 | Imperios | Like vultures and stuff |
| 20:43.32 | Imperios | So it will remain in the sky forever |
| 20:43.46 | AGrayCat | also |
| 20:43.48 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I've heard of that |
| 20:43.51 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting tradition |
| 20:43.53 | Wormy_ | Few from other countries have ever been allowed to watch a sky burial. |
| 20:44.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yes GreyCat? |
| 20:44.17 | AGrayCat | are 12 planets in my 'empire' a lot of planets? or too few? or a perfect amount? |
| 20:44.18 | Hachiman | Oh cool |
| 20:44.24 | Hachiman | Too few |
| 20:44.25 | DrodoEmpire | Oh dear that's very few |
| 20:44.25 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 20:44.29 | Hachiman | Have at least several hundred |
| 20:44.33 | Wormy_ | So Sky burials are steeped in mystery |
| 20:44.42 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo Empire has ten-thousand inhabited systems in its mainland alone |
| 20:45.03 | DrodoEmpire | Counting its colonies in other galaxies its closer to twenty-one thousand |
| 20:45.06 | AGrayCat | Why several hundred, out of interest? |
| 20:45.08 | AGrayCat | oof |
| 20:45.13 | AGrayCat | this is embarrassing |
| 20:45.18 | DrodoEmpire | What's wrong? |
| 20:45.19 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 20:45.20 | Imperios | Actually wait Mongols don't burn their dead my mistake |
| 20:45.28 | Imperios | They buried them too so you can have normal undead |
| 20:45.33 | Hachiman | yey |
| 20:45.44 | Imperios | But seriously maybe he can control these carrion birds |
| 20:45.45 | AGrayCat | The fact I have 12 planets and you have 21,000 inhabited SYSTEMS |
| 20:45.55 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:45.56 | Hachiman | Fantasy!Moxix controlling carrion birds would be epic |
| 20:46.00 | drom | GD12: http://imgur.com/gallery/BOPYQ |
| 20:46.02 | AGrayCat | i look like luxembourg or the vatican |
| 20:46.08 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta yeah |
| 20:46.17 | GD12 | covers AGrayCat 's eyes so he doesn't see the Gigaquadrantic superpowers and hyperpowers |
| 20:46.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the Drodo Empire is more of a regional power |
| 20:46.39 | Hachiman | Considering that the Tuungar are also affiliated with venomancy, Fantasy!Moxix could also be something of a plague lord |
| 20:46.45 | AGrayCat | that is even worse |
| 20:46.50 | DrodoEmpire | It can punch above its weight but its not much compared to the greatest of the great powers |
| 20:46.54 | GD12 | drom : lol |
| 20:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | Like the DCP, France or the Empire |
| 20:46.57 | AGrayCat | i shall accept my fate as the tiniest empire known in the fiction universe :( |
| 20:47.06 | Imperios | He controls carrion birds |
| 20:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | No no XD |
| 20:47.16 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: I know Mongols used to have this tradition that you couldn't execute nobles in a way that shedded blood |
| 20:47.28 | AGrayCat | yep i've read about that |
| 20:47.31 | GD12 | The Drodo Empire is kinda like the lovechild of Switzerland and Canada |
| 20:47.35 | DrodoEmpire | So a popular thing with rival nobles was to roll them up in a carpet and kick them to death |
| 20:47.36 | GD12 | or maybe i'm just high |
| 20:47.40 | DrodoEmpire | GD: hur |
| 20:47.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 20:47.47 | Hachiman | olol |
| 20:47.59 | AGrayCat | What would my little republic be the child of? |
| 20:48.09 | AGrayCat | Sealand and the Vatican? |
| 20:48.19 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta GD. XD In terms of ethnic diversity its like Austria-Hungary, or the Ottoman Empire |
| 20:48.21 | Hachiman | I was gonna say Japan but that makes more sense |
| 20:48.29 | *** join/#sporewiki Tek0516 (~TekDroid@24.114.80.23) |
| 20:48.32 | Hachiman | Fucking Sealand tho |
| 20:48.32 | GD12 | hehe |
| 20:48.38 | DrodoEmpire | Waay too many cultures trying to get along in one place |
| 20:49.12 | GD12 | being several hundred systems in size means its not a good idea to start crusades against the Gig's largest powers |
| 20:49.17 | GD12 | but it doesn't preclude anything else |
| 20:49.20 | AGrayCat | so how many planets do you think would be a good amount for my empire? |
| 20:49.27 | DrodoEmpire | Usually we count systems |
| 20:49.30 | Ghel | How old are they? |
| 20:49.40 | AGrayCat | 800 years with a massive civil war in the middle. |
| 20:49.48 | DrodoEmpire | But a few hundred to a few thousand is good for a starting nation |
| 20:49.55 | GD12 | i mean you could be several thousand |
| 20:49.59 | GD12 | with a few hundred core systems |
| 20:50.04 | GD12 | with the rest being outposts/frontier worlds and othe shit |
| 20:50.27 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: CARPETS |
| 20:50.30 | Imperios | SIT ON THEM |
| 20:50.34 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 20:50.35 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 20:50.48 | AGrayCat | I'll have 542 colonies. |
| 20:50.53 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. |
| 20:50.59 | GD12 | alright |
| 20:51.02 | Hachiman | I'd go more with 2,500 myself |
| 20:51.10 | GD12 | yeah maybe 500 core |
| 20:51.12 | GD12 | 2000 frontier |
| 20:51.18 | AGrayCat | that brings me to... 543 planets total. |
| 20:51.38 | GD12 | also it depends what you wanty to get your fiction into |
| 20:51.47 | GD12 | and what other aspects make it special/unique |
| 20:51.55 | Wormy_ | Agreed |
| 20:52.16 | Wormy_ | I mean, it also depends how individualist or collab oriented you want your fic to be |
| 20:52.20 | Wormy_ | Mines in the middle |
| 20:52.45 | GD12 | Most users have both collab fictions and individual fictions |
| 20:52.53 | GD12 | Since people are ya'know not always one dimensional :) |
| 20:53.15 | AGrayCat | Mine will also be in the middle. |
| 20:53.20 | AGrayCat | although i do like working with others |
| 20:53.57 | Wormy_ | What I mean, with the DCP I'm quite happy not to follow stringent political / economics rules like some fiction does, though I will conform to them if put my fiction in that setting |
| 20:54.14 | AGrayCat | DCP? |
| 20:54.17 | Wormy_ | But I also go through periods of solo-fic |
| 20:54.22 | GD12 | Delpha Coalition of Planets |
| 20:54.24 | DrodoEmpire | Delpha Coalit- |
| 20:54.26 | DrodoEmpire | yeah |
| 20:54.27 | Imperios | Hachiman: Maybe Tuungar actually practice sky burial so as to prevent their corpses from being raised from the dead |
| 20:54.29 | GD12 | one of the Gigaquqdrant's big boys |
| 20:54.31 | AGrayCat | Which galaxy? |
| 20:54.35 | DrodoEmpire | Milky Way |
| 20:54.38 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 20:54.39 | Wormy_ | allofdem |
| 20:54.45 | DrodoEmpire | (Drodo are also in the Milky Way btw) |
| 20:54.48 | AGrayCat | My Glistennaens started in the Milky Way. |
| 20:54.49 | DrodoEmpire | Well the homeland |
| 20:54.52 | Imperios | But Moxix has somehow found their way to circumvent that |
| 20:54.55 | Wormy_ | Milky Way is prime galaxy |
| 20:55.05 | AGrayCat | When did your thingie invent space travel? |
| 20:55.18 | GD12 | ooh thats a question people don't get everyday |
| 20:55.23 | DrodoEmpire | Whose? |
| 20:55.24 | AGrayCat | irony? |
| 20:55.25 | Wormy_ | Mine? |
| 20:55.29 | Hachiman | So Moxix would have his own little realm of the dead hidden in the mountains |
| 20:55.29 | GD12 | i think the dcp is seven hundred years old |
| 20:55.30 | GD12 | but some member races |
| 20:55.33 | GD12 | are 12,000 years old |
| 20:55.38 | AGrayCat | wormy_'s thing |
| 20:55.39 | Wormy_ | Correct |
| 20:55.43 | GD12 | plus theyve been there since the start of the fiction universe (2009) |
| 20:55.47 | AGrayCat | GD12 |
| 20:55.54 | AGrayCat | was that irony? |
| 20:56.00 | GD12 | no |
| 20:56.06 | GD12 | its the first time ive seen that question asked |
| 20:56.08 | AGrayCat | oo |
| 20:56.21 | Wormy_ | The Grimbolsaurians are my race in particular http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/History/Development#Technological_advances |
| 20:56.23 | AGrayCat | But which Terran year did it invent space travel in? |
| 20:56.37 | DrodoEmpire | Well the current one is 2804-2814... |
| 20:56.37 | Wormy_ | Hmmm |
| 20:56.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 20:56.42 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 20:56.53 | AGrayCat | What is the current year in the Fiction Universe? |
| 20:56.54 | Wormy_ | I'm not quite sure how DCP years correspond to human ones |
| 20:56.56 | GD12 | ballpark it at the early 2100s |
| 20:57.04 | GD12 | and its 2803 i think rn |
| 20:57.04 | AGrayCat | ballpark what? |
| 20:57.09 | DrodoEmpire | GreyCat, 2804 |
| 20:57.12 | DrodoEmpire | For most |
| 20:57.21 | Imperios | Hachiman: Corrupting the birds so that they would bring the dead to his realm |
| 20:57.24 | GD12 | ballpark the time of the dcp's first travel |
| 20:57.31 | AGrayCat | 789 years old yay |
| 20:57.37 | Ghel | If Mirenton has similar climates and a similar sun to Earth, its years aren't going to be hugely different from Earth years. |
| 20:58.03 | Ghel | So you can certainly approximate it as being 700-800 Earth years old. |
| 20:58.05 | AGrayCat | Yes, but we are using Terran years in this little question. |
| 20:58.16 | AGrayCat | Drodo: When did you guys invent space travel? |
| 20:58.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 20:58.26 | DrodoEmpire | Good question |
| 20:58.42 | AGrayCat | I'm wondering if the 1700s would be a good time for it? |
| 20:58.46 | DrodoEmpire | Space travel, as in being able to shoot a rocket out of the atmosphere would like be about 325 years ago |
| 20:58.57 | GD12 | also there is a difference |
| 20:58.58 | DrodoEmpire | While interstellar travel would be around 200 years ago |
| 20:59.03 | GD12 | between apollo missions level space travel |
| 20:59.05 | GD12 | and interstellar travel |
| 20:59.07 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:59.10 | DrodoEmpire | HUGE difference |
| 20:59.25 | GD12 | its not that important of a detail tbh since its something all civilizations go through |
| 20:59.31 | Hachiman | I wonder if Moxix would also do stuff like raid Tuungar villages and kidnap townsfolk and fallen warriors to incorporate into his realm |
| 20:59.36 | DrodoEmpire | So there was a 125-year period where the Drodo were A. Restricted to their home system and B. Divided among dozens of nations |
| 20:59.37 | GD12 | you're better off giving more attention to things that happened in your civ that don't happen in all othes |
| 20:59.46 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 20:59.54 | Imperios | Since I was planning to have an undead city there |
| 21:00.14 | AGrayCat | But would 1792 be an acceptable year? |
| 21:00.19 | Imperios | Could it be that the Tuungar would periodically try to raid it for its riches and get some of their dead raised in the process? |
| 21:00.22 | DrodoEmpire | For your space travel? |
| 21:00.24 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps |
| 21:00.26 | AGrayCat | Yes. |
| 21:00.27 | Hachiman | Hmm perhaps |
| 21:00.30 | AGrayCat | Very minor space travel. |
| 21:00.34 | Wormy_ | Ghel: I'm thinking that DCP time is non-planetary. Not quite sure how it would work. Obviously near-synchronised using hyperspace or other FTL communications. Possibly based on some cycle in nature |
| 21:00.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 21:00.38 | DrodoEmpire | So apollo stuff?\ |
| 21:00.44 | DrodoEmpire | I'd... Think so? |
| 21:00.54 | GD12 | Again its not a very important detail |
| 21:00.55 | Hachiman | So would Moxix be a part of this undead realm then or would he have his own? |
| 21:00.57 | DrodoEmpire | We aren't too prickish about this |
| 21:01.24 | Wormy_ | Pulsars, or some hyperspatial rythem might fit the bill |
| 21:01.26 | GD12 | Generally anything is acceptable aside from extreme overpowerdness, making references to other fiction without permission and general offensiveness |
| 21:02.13 | DrodoEmpire | I'm even a little iffy about mentioning fiction without permission. I personally see little issue in *mentioning* one without permission |
| 21:02.16 | Ghel | Wormy_: Maybe, but since the cycle of seasons is bound to be important for any culture that develops agriculture, a cycle or some multiple that roughly corresponds to a typical planetary year seems reasonable. |
| 21:02.25 | Ghel | I'm sure the DCP is more than 800 pulsar rotations old. :P |
| 21:02.34 | Wormy_ | LOL |
| 21:02.38 | DrodoEmpire | Assuming the characters in question would know of such fiction in-character |
| 21:02.47 | GD12 | i meant mention as in significant mentions |
| 21:02.56 | GD12 | like with regards to things like alliances, wars, etc |
| 21:02.56 | DrodoEmpire | Well define significant mention GD |
| 21:03.02 | DrodoEmpire | That' |
| 21:03.04 | DrodoEmpire | That |
| 21:03.07 | DrodoEmpire | whoops\ |
| 21:03.18 | DrodoEmpire | That's doing things on behalf of other fictions, far above a mere mention. XD |
| 21:03.52 | GD12 | ahh i guess |
| 21:03.55 | GD12 | yeah good point |
| 21:04.51 | GD12 | AGrayCat : aside from worrying about first date of space flight |
| 21:04.57 | GD12 | you might want to think about your general technology level |
| 21:05.00 | Hachiman | Right I gotta get ready to go out |
| 21:05.06 | GD12 | and your fiction's overall goals and ambitions |
| 21:05.08 | Imperios | Hachiman: Probably his own |
| 21:05.15 | GD12 | the general methods in which they interact with others |
| 21:05.17 | GD12 | foreign policy |
| 21:05.21 | Hachiman | Imperios: If you got any other ideas regarding the Tuungar, Moxix, and your undead realm, message me on Steam |
| 21:05.25 | Ghel | The general point is not to do stuff involving other people's fictions if they don't want you to. Some people might want you to run any mention by them just to be sure it's not a problem. Conversely, if somebody says they don't mind you mentioning their fiction at all, you could take that as permanent permission. |
| 21:06.05 | DrodoEmpire | Just for the record anyone I won't throw a fit if you mention my fiction without permission |
| 21:06.11 | DrodoEmpire | Do it as much as you want |
| 21:06.14 | DrodoEmpire | *everyone |
| 21:06.43 | drom | "cuntspawn" |
| 21:07.10 | Wormy_ | I'm pretty chillaxed about my fiction being mentioned, but I will comment if I think something is inaccurate |
| 21:07.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:07.18 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally |
| 21:08.17 | GD12 | the DCP stands for Dicks Cunts and Poopypants |
| 21:08.20 | GD12 | inaccurate m8? |
| 21:08.39 | AGrayCat | eh |
| 21:08.55 | AGrayCat | community here is weird eh |
| 21:09.12 | GD12 | aye you'll see lots of that on the IRC |
| 21:09.21 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah IRC's pretty relaxed place |
| 21:09.26 | drom | that's right you fucking gammon-faced cumdump! |
| 21:09.31 | AGrayCat | uh |
| 21:09.40 | DrodoEmpire | slaps drom around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 21:09.44 | GD12 | drom's just screwing around lol |
| 21:09.48 | GD12 | don't take anything too seriously here |
| 21:10.10 | Ghel | Apart from seriousness. |
| 21:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | http://www.multi.fi/~goranfri/GuardHuss.gif - This... Will make for a *really* good reference for a sketch |
| 21:10.23 | DrodoEmpire | Of a Drodo cavalryman that is |
| 21:10.25 | drom | Were you living in Newfoundland, Drodo? |
| 21:10.28 | Wormy_ | Except when he we super cereal about philosophy, science, politics or computer game publishers |
| 21:10.37 | DrodoEmpire | drom: No |
| 21:10.41 | DrodoEmpire | I'm Nova Scotian |
| 21:10.49 | DrodoEmpire | Just south of Newfoundland |
| 21:11.05 | drom | Alright |
| 21:11.30 | GD12 | also AGrayCat |
| 21:11.32 | DrodoEmpire | My siblings are in Newfoundland and I have familt from there but I'm Nova Scotian through and through |
| 21:11.38 | GD12 | a pretty big part of fiction is your fiction's military |
| 21:11.43 | GD12 | so you might want to flesh that out a lot |
| 21:11.56 | AGrayCat | oo |
| 21:11.59 | AGrayCat | I'm from England. |
| 21:12.01 | DrodoEmpire | http://www.rafaelpardoalmudi.com/images/figures/prussian_NCR/knotel.jpg - Also this |
| 21:12.13 | DrodoEmpire | That uniform is fabulous. It'll be good practice |
| 21:13.17 | AGrayCat | Why is the community so uhh... eh... uhh. |
| 21:13.44 | GD12 | we're a quirky bunch |
| 21:14.27 | drom | that's right ya shagsack! |
| 21:14.28 | AGrayCat | yeah you even said earlier fiction revolving around reproductive pleasures was allowed. and a few of ya'll seem to be quite liberal in swearing. |
| 21:14.35 | AGrayCat | like that guy |
| 21:15.24 | GD12 | reproductive pleasures are never the centers of fictions |
| 21:15.29 | GD12 | but they happen if there is a romantic subplot |
| 21:15.36 | GD12 | or sometimes just as inuniverse jokes or memes |
| 21:15.44 | GD12 | and yes we all swear a lot |
| 21:15.47 | GD12 | its the interwebz lol |
| 21:16.06 | drom | spot on... |
| 21:16.17 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 21:16.38 | AGrayCat | would someone be willing to make a pretty simple flag? |
| 21:16.48 | AGrayCat | a white flag with a light green circle in the middle |
| 21:17.08 | drom | speaking off: ya ███████ are ███████ ███████████ ████ ████████ like a ██████████ ██ ██████ ████████ ███████████ up █████████ you ███████████. |
| 21:17.16 | DrodoEmpire | GreyCat: I probably can |
| 21:17.22 | AGrayCat | tis graycat |
| 21:17.23 | DrodoEmpire | Charles_Murray is also rgeat at making flags |
| 21:17.31 | GD12 | ^ |
| 21:17.36 | AGrayCat | being great won't really help |
| 21:17.46 | AGrayCat | it is literally a white flag with a light green circle in the middle |
| 21:17.52 | DrodoEmpire | I'm Canadian. I say grey over gray |
| 21:17.54 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry |
| 21:18.03 | Wormy_ | I'm English/Brit too |
| 21:18.11 | AGrayCat | i'm english and say gray over grey |
| 21:18.31 | Wormy_ | yeah, thought you were American |
| 21:18.40 | AGrayCat | huh |
| 21:18.56 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Good to be apologetic, eh? |
| 21:18.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I think grey/gray is less regional then |
| 21:19.04 | DrodoEmpire | drom: yeah I suppose |
| 21:19.06 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry about that. |
| 21:19.07 | AGrayCat | eh? |
| 21:19.17 | GD12 | AGrayCat : tell us more about your fiction |
| 21:19.20 | Wormy_ | everyone I know writes it as grey |
| 21:19.25 | AGrayCat | oh well |
| 21:19.32 | AGrayCat | I'll just get a quote |
| 21:19.32 | drom | Except us! |
| 21:19.56 | AGrayCat | original draft: |
| 21:19.58 | AGrayCat | The '''Glistennaen National Republic''' is the empire of the {{creature|Glistenna}}, a multi-billion year old species from the Borealis Galaxy. Created in S.Y 2015 after a devastating conflict that forced the previous Glistennaen Empire to dissolve, it has long since recovered and is now trying to expand from a small group of planets into a empire that can successfully exert influence across a number of systems. |
| 21:20.35 | AGrayCat | note draft |
| 21:20.49 | DrodoEmpire | Good intro/ |
| 21:20.52 | DrodoEmpire | *. |
| 21:21.10 | AGrayCat | i could publish it and work on more edits later, eh? |
| 21:21.12 | drom | Tek0516 Xho Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/2YenWL7.webm |
| 21:21.22 | GD12 | good intro aye |
| 21:21.40 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 21:21.48 | DrodoEmpire | GreyCat: Yes you can |
| 21:21.57 | AGrayCat | ok |
| 21:22.00 | drom | Yes, you can. |
| 21:22.00 | AGrayCat | ill publish it and drop a link |
| 21:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | drom: olol |
| 21:22.04 | AGrayCat | please do give me advice |
| 21:22.08 | DrodoEmpire | Of course1 |
| 21:22.10 | DrodoEmpire | *! |
| 21:22.15 | AGrayCat | right now it is a full-on draft |
| 21:22.39 | AGrayCat | darn loading the edits |
| 21:22.40 | GD12 | aye i'm looking forward to it |
| 21:22.50 | AGrayCat | don't. |
| 21:22.51 | AGrayCat | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Glistennaen_National_Republics |
| 21:22.53 | AGrayCat | it is a terrible draft |
| 21:22.59 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/FAz0YBJ.webm |
| 21:23.59 | AGrayCat | so |
| 21:24.04 | AGrayCat | the community is the mother cat |
| 21:24.07 | AGrayCat | and i'm the kitten |
| 21:24.08 | AGrayCat | seems accurate |
| 21:24.31 | Wormy_ | really detailed for a first starter |
| 21:24.34 | GD12 | "Interested in expanding and growing its military for possible conflicts, the Glistennaen National Republic is still however one of the smallest empires, with one of the smallest amounts of influence in the entire known universe." |
| 21:24.44 | GD12 | to be fair the vast majority of the empires on SW are small |
| 21:24.52 | GD12 | its just that the ones that get written about are often the big players |
| 21:25.06 | GD12 | but remember that for each of them ,space is vast enough that there are countless small civilizqations as well |
| 21:25.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh GrayCat, need help with the Tiers? |
| 21:25.20 | AGrayCat | indeed |
| 21:25.32 | DrodoEmpire | That damned thing has gotten very confusing over the past few years... |
| 21:25.33 | AGrayCat | yeah but we absolutely suck at expansion |
| 21:25.34 | drom | waves in triumph |
| 21:25.47 | GD12 | Tier 4 = Star Trek/ UNSC Halo |
| 21:25.53 | GD12 | Tier 3 = Imperium of Man/Covenant |
| 21:25.53 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:192744#The_Scale |
| 21:26.23 | Wormy_ | Did you find that link? |
| 21:26.30 | DrodoEmpire | The way I understand it is that Tier 5 is just above the level of the modern day, barely spacefaring, and the rest can be accurately characterized with examples |
| 21:26.35 | drom | Alternatively, you can choose not to use the Tier systerm for favor of describing their technology instead. |
| 21:26.44 | Wormy_ | or both |
| 21:26.45 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh not really |
| 21:27.11 | DrodoEmpire | Its good to describe tech in detail but the tier system acts as a quick if arbitrary reference for people |
| 21:27.27 | DrodoEmpire | With tier two being an awkward space between three and one many fictions find themselves in |
| 21:27.49 | DrodoEmpire | One being the biggest civs; Examples in pop culture being the Galactic Empire in Star Wars |
| 21:27.51 | AGrayCat | yep that link |
| 21:27.59 | DrodoEmpire | Or The Culture |
| 21:28.01 | AGrayCat | yeah i'm gonna be the galactic empire when pigs fly |
| 21:28.06 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:28.07 | DrodoEmpire | Depends |
| 21:28.16 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo started as tier four but rapidly modernized |
| 21:28.32 | GD12 | most fictions modernize during their time on the wiki |
| 21:28.37 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:28.40 | GD12 | mostly during collabs |
| 21:28.52 | GD12 | war fics are popular because people get salvage and stuff |
| 21:28.54 | GD12 | furthermore |
| 21:28.59 | GD12 | lower tier civs can purchase higher tier tech |
| 21:29.03 | GD12 | there is an arms market |
| 21:29.07 | AGrayCat | so |
| 21:29.10 | AGrayCat | could someone do the flag? |
| 21:29.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yes. |
| 21:29.23 | AGrayCat | yay |
| 21:29.25 | AGrayCat | thank you |
| 21:29.26 | drom | The tier system feels more like a drag race between who can compensate their [expletive] the most |
| 21:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | I'd suggest asking someone on their message wall |
| 21:29.36 | DrodoEmpire | I'm really lazy right now |
| 21:29.37 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 21:29.46 | AGrayCat | it is only a white flag with a green circle in the middle but eh |
| 21:29.48 | Wormy_ | It is generally a good idea if you want to advance fiction, is to explain how (in an original way to stand out), or use things like the Gigaquadrant market and collab |
| 21:29.50 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 21:29.53 | AGrayCat | List of people who do flags? |
| 21:29.55 | DrodoEmpire | I'm just that lazy |
| 21:30.00 | DrodoEmpire | Me... Sorta |
| 21:30.02 | GD12 | Charles_Murray |
| 21:30.05 | DrodoEmpire | Charles is one of the best |
| 21:30.06 | GD12 | ask hinm on the weekend |
| 21:30.09 | drom | AGrayCat: Here is the list: |
| 21:30.11 | drom | 1. EVERYONE |
| 21:30.26 | AGrayCat | oo |
| 21:30.49 | Wormy_ | I actually created the tier scale as a cheap comparison of sci-fi civilisations when I got really into vs. debates |
| 21:30.59 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: really? |
| 21:31.10 | GD12 | aye those debates were popular back in the day i think |
| 21:31.16 | Wormy_ | Then it became an essay on tech development. So yeah, no woner it confuses people |
| 21:31.21 | DrodoEmpire | GD: Indeed |
| 21:31.28 | AGrayCat | well |
| 21:31.34 | AGrayCat | my debate is that my civ is the worst civ |
| 21:31.36 | DrodoEmpire | I remember StarDestroyer.net as one |
| 21:31.38 | AGrayCat | who wants to challenge it |
| 21:31.38 | Wormy_ | Spacebattles.com, Galactic Empire.net etc I used to browse all the time |
| 21:31.46 | DrodoEmpire | That site was a... riot. XD |
| 21:31.54 | DrodoEmpire | Nonsense GrayCat |
| 21:31.55 | Wormy_ | That was it, sd.net |
| 21:32.08 | GD12 | nonsense |
| 21:32.11 | AGrayCat | Which empire is the smallest then? |
| 21:32.16 | GD12 | the unnamed ones |
| 21:32.18 | DrodoEmpire | You would find the most obscene insults on there... It was awesome |
| 21:32.25 | Wormy_ | Spacebattles.com has cool animations though (well poor quality actually) |
| 21:32.26 | DrodoEmpire | You can change the size at this point you know |
| 21:32.32 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Right lil |
| 21:32.34 | DrodoEmpire | *lol |
| 21:32.37 | GD12 | Seriously you're fic is still an embryonic stage |
| 21:32.42 | GD12 | you can make it bigger if you want |
| 21:32.52 | AGrayCat | so |
| 21:32.54 | GD12 | you can also compensate by giving it other advantages if you're hellbent on keeping them small rn |
| 21:33.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah don;t feel pressured into shooting your fiction in the foot |
| 21:33.13 | drom | DrodoEmpire: The sd .net has obscene insults? |
| 21:33.14 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45L6t9mAXM0&list=PLCBA7CB3907B735A6 |
| 21:33.19 | drom | I like it! |
| 21:33.23 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Yeah they were pretty funny. XD |
| 21:33.26 | GD12 | Such as giving them lots of andasium reserves (fictionverse oil and something that smaller civs have lots of) |
| 21:33.47 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AAndasium |
| 21:33.58 | GD12 | If your fic is too OP or UP collaboration is hard |
| 21:34.02 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:34.27 | Wormy_ | Drodo: Babylon 5 vs Star Trek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIrS9hiE09Y&index=7&list=PLCBA7CB3907B735A6 |
| 21:34.59 | GD12 | For example, I made my fiction OP with the explicit intention of having it set up as the big bad for a collaborative fiction which would kill it off |
| 21:35.12 | GD12 | which will resume/continue next semester when i have a ridiculously easy last stretch workload |
| 21:35.14 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: The quality tho |
| 21:35.20 | GD12 | i will be back from breakfast 4 good |
| 21:35.28 | DrodoEmpire | GD: Damn you and your long breakfasts |
| 21:35.48 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Pretty cool anyway |
| 21:35.48 | GD12 | aye |
| 21:35.49 | Wormy_ | So badly compressed |
| 21:36.05 | Wormy_ | or compiled |
| 21:36.24 | drom | Goddamn, that quality is about good as a bowl of cardboard flakes |
| 21:36.26 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I quite liked Alpha Quadrant because it was even handed |
| 21:36.28 | drom | for breakfast |
| 21:36.40 | GD12 | AGrayCat : it won't matter for your first fics since those are first contact fics |
| 21:36.43 | GD12 | but if you want realism |
| 21:36.49 | GD12 | you can't be too small for war fics |
| 21:37.30 | GD12 | Also your history is quite good |
| 21:37.39 | AGrayCat | first contact |
| 21:37.40 | AGrayCat | so basically |
| 21:37.46 | AGrayCat | we never met anyone in borealis |
| 21:37.47 | Wormy_ | Though Rommies can't take on Vorlons imo *points angrily at tier scale* |
| 21:37.48 | AGrayCat | until today? |
| 21:38.25 | GD12 | no |
| 21:38.32 | GD12 | first ontact with another fiction empire |
| 21:38.35 | drom | Wormy_: *NS jumps around DCP excitedly* |
| 21:38.36 | GD12 | *named |
| 21:38.39 | GD12 | as in collab |
| 21:38.45 | AGrayCat | well |
| 21:38.50 | AGrayCat | this is embarrassing |
| 21:38.53 | AGrayCat | we never met ANYOJNE? |
| 21:39.09 | GD12 | no no no |
| 21:39.13 | GD12 | you've met other civs before |
| 21:39.16 | GD12 | but for a collaboration |
| 21:39.25 | GD12 | this is your first time meet ing a civ that belongs to a user on the wiki |
| 21:40.07 | AGrayCat | yay |
| 21:40.09 | AGrayCat | who wants to do a collab |
| 21:40.27 | AGrayCat | in the future of course |
| 21:40.27 | DrodoEmpire | I don't have colonies or any characters in Borealis. >.< |
| 21:40.28 | DrodoEmpire | So I can't for now |
| 21:40.31 | GD12 | I'd offer for a band of ex-tyranny mercenaries to meet them |
| 21:40.34 | AGrayCat | right now i just need ideas for my republic mhmm |
| 21:40.39 | GD12 | Though those don't constitute an actual stte |
| 21:40.40 | AGrayCat | oh ex-tyranny? |
| 21:40.43 | AGrayCat | they would love us |
| 21:40.47 | AGrayCat | we pretend to be a democracy |
| 21:40.48 | GD12 | AGrayCat : think about your republic's military |
| 21:40.50 | AGrayCat | but underneath |
| 21:40.51 | AGrayCat | heh |
| 21:41.44 | GD12 | but for ideas you should think of foreign policy and military |
| 21:41.47 | GD12 | as well as important characters |
| 21:41.57 | drom | You are saying that it is to the core an authorithan power? |
| 21:42.07 | GD12 | a fair bit of wiki action is squad or crew based wherein captains and heroes are involved |
| 21:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 21:42.15 | GD12 | while other wiki action is faced on larger scale military standoffs |
| 21:42.21 | AGrayCat | nah |
| 21:42.25 | AGrayCat | we look like a loving democracy |
| 21:42.28 | AGrayCat | with free elections |
| 21:42.30 | AGrayCat | but |
| 21:42.31 | DrodoEmpire | Other stuff is surrounding larger scale national politics/war |
| 21:42.33 | AGrayCat | our elections are rigged |
| 21:42.36 | AGrayCat | crime if rife |
| 21:42.37 | AGrayCat | is rife |
| 21:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | So its profoundly corrupt. |
| 21:42.46 | drom | Just like China |
| 21:42.47 | drom | hur |
| 21:42.48 | AGrayCat | we only investigate if you pay us a fee and we didn't do it in the first place |
| 21:42.49 | AGrayCat | heh |
| 21:42.55 | AGrayCat | china looks like a utopia compared to us |
| 21:43.21 | AGrayCat | this link would fit |
| 21:43.23 | AGrayCat | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsaccharineWorld |
| 21:43.25 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo Empire is sorta corrupt in the sense that centuries-old tradition often clashes with modern law (and often wins) |
| 21:44.04 | DrodoEmpire | You're not *supposed* to own enough weapons to arm a small army... But if they're your clan's property the police best look the other way. |
| 21:44.17 | AGrayCat | mhm |
| 21:44.18 | *** join/#sporewiki GD12_ (427591e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.117.145.231) |
| 21:44.19 | GD12_ | dumternet |
| 21:44.34 | Imperios | Pa-Rhaebriq, Lord of the Black Ossuary |
| 21:44.38 | Imperios | Now let me remember that name |
| 21:44.55 | AGrayCat | who wants to be muh ally |
| 21:45.09 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno if the Drodo can *quite* yet |
| 21:45.09 | GD12_ | You should probs flesh your fiction out more |
| 21:45.17 | GD12_ | before you decide on alliances and stuff |
| 21:45.21 | DrodoEmpire | ever colonize the Quadrants or the milky way though |
| 21:45.23 | drom | Imperios: "Azók, Baron of the Fondledsacks" |
| 21:45.32 | GD12_ | again military and foreign policy, flesh those out |
| 21:47.21 | Wormy_ | Drodo: This wasn't isn't as bad quality wise but is unrealistic imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMNDMBf-e4 |
| 21:47.58 | DrodoEmpire | Completely unrealistic... XD |
| 21:48.10 | DrodoEmpire | Star trek universe would be utterly *annihilated* by the Galactic Empire |
| 21:48.15 | DrodoEmpire | hardly even a contest |
| 21:49.07 | DrodoEmpire | Excluding Q because Q *never* counts. |
| 21:49.25 | Wormy_ | Including Babylon 5 |
| 21:49.39 | Wormy_ | But here is one I could believe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4CXKPcO09s |
| 21:50.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I suppose |
| 21:50.21 | DrodoEmpire | Actually now that I think about it |
| 21:50.28 | DrodoEmpire | Most SW fictions could easily overrun the ST universe |
| 21:50.36 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo would eat the federation for lunch |
| 21:50.56 | Wormy_ | yep |
| 21:51.20 | AGrayCat | what about us |
| 21:51.26 | AGrayCat | would we overrun the federation? |
| 21:51.34 | DrodoEmpire | *Especially* in ground battles... though seeing as the federation's ground army is nonexistent in the first place its not a big achievement |
| 21:51.42 | GD12_ | the federation has a gorund army? |
| 21:51.46 | GD12_ | set phasers on stun |
| 21:51.49 | AGrayCat | Be serious kids. |
| 21:51.53 | DrodoEmpire | Impossible to tell as you've not elaborated on the military |
| 21:51.58 | DrodoEmpire | GD12: body armour |
| 21:52.01 | GD12_ | AGrayCat : tell us about your military first |
| 21:52.03 | DrodoEmpire | And limited range on stun |
| 21:52.13 | GD12_ | thats the joke |
| 21:52.13 | AGrayCat | Portraying the five year mission of a group of troops isn't as exciting as a spaceship series. |
| 21:52.17 | Wormy_ | I do think the Borg might stand a chance against even bigger empires if they have time to assimilate tech, they are already Tier 2 |
| 21:52.20 | AGrayCat | ok |
| 21:52.30 | AGrayCat | our military is mainly space-based |
| 21:52.37 | AGrayCat | with a large ground forces |
| 21:52.41 | DrodoEmpire | Graycat, the assumption in debate is that we're debating as if the subjects are *real* |
| 21:52.46 | AGrayCat | uhuh |
| 21:52.51 | GD12_ | so are most empire's |
| 21:52.56 | GD12_ | you probably need to elaborate more |
| 21:53.02 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:53.07 | AGrayCat | We have 10,000,000 troops. Is that okay for a 70 billion pop empire? |
| 21:53.14 | DrodoEmpire | What troops? |
| 21:53.16 | Wormy_ | If the GE (Legends) took on the Borg at full might, Borg might be destroyed. But if the Borg had time, it might be another story |
| 21:53.20 | DrodoEmpire | What is their service weapon? Equipment? |
| 21:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | Vehicles? Artillery? |
| 21:53.30 | DrodoEmpire | Air support? |
| 21:53.31 | AGrayCat | well |
| 21:53.37 | AGrayCat | Air support. |
| 21:53.41 | AGrayCat | HEAVY air support. |
| 21:53.47 | DrodoEmpire | What planes? |
| 21:53.49 | GD12_ | 70 billion in pop is probably not that much |
| 21:53.51 | AGrayCat | Key factor of the military is bombard the enemy on the ground to hell and back. |
| 21:53.52 | GD12_ | considering thats only 10 earths |
| 21:53.59 | AGrayCat | what pop would you suggest then? |
| 21:54.08 | AGrayCat | No planes. Entirely space-based. |
| 21:54.08 | Wormy_ | I think with either Borg or GE you could construct a story where either wins |
| 21:54.17 | AGrayCat | What about Grox? |
| 21:54.18 | DrodoEmpire | GE would probably bowl over the Borg easy |
| 21:54.25 | GD12_ | several trillion |
| 21:54.29 | Wormy_ | Only if they acted fast and hard |
| 21:54.33 | GD12_ | go with several trillion and several thousand |
| 21:54.35 | GD12_ | *sytstems |
| 21:54.36 | DrodoEmpire | Chances are they can't adapt to turbolasers/blasters as they aren't phasers or anything |
| 21:54.44 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Which the GE is known for |
| 21:54.52 | AGrayCat | DrodoEmpire |
| 21:54.55 | GD12_ | the federation has thousands of colonies |
| 21:54.59 | DrodoEmpire | A blitzkrieg through Borg space would annihilate them |
| 21:55.02 | AGrayCat | What would happen to the Grox in a war with the Galactic Empire? |
| 21:55.05 | GD12_ | and ~10 trillion people |
| 21:55.09 | DrodoEmpire | Depends |
| 21:55.10 | GD12_ | sporewiki grox? |
| 21:55.14 | GD12_ | or spore game grox |
| 21:55.17 | DrodoEmpire | Basegame spore its not even a contest |
| 21:55.26 | DrodoEmpire | Sporewiki groxs and you're talking a more even fight |
| 21:55.27 | GD12_ | would be really close if its sporewiki grox |
| 21:55.28 | DrodoEmpire | *grox |
| 21:55.31 | GD12_ | since those are tier 1 too |
| 21:55.35 | GD12_ | but due to system cap limits |
| 21:55.38 | Wormy_ | Agreed. But imagine if you had the Borg assimilating Star Wars tech in the background over a long time period, conquering the entire Milky Way, and then going into the temporal intergalactic wormhole |
| 21:55.43 | GD12_ | they couldn't challenge the empire in a war of attrition |
| 21:55.48 | AGrayCat | Basegame Grox would get wrecked? |
| 21:55.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
| 21:55.55 | GD12_ | for perspective |
| 21:55.58 | GD12_ | basegame grox is tier 3 |
| 21:56.01 | GD12_ | sporewiki grox tier 1 |
| 21:56.12 | AGrayCat | why are the grox so powerful |
| 21:56.24 | Wormy_ | Even small SporeWiki Grox independents would ruin the Spore Grox |
| 21:56.27 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: i doubt the Ge would give the Borg the hundreds or thousands of years needed to assimilate the veritable clarketech that the GE has |
| 21:56.29 | GD12_ | they were one of the ficverses big bads |
| 21:56.40 | GD12_ | they were the advanced high tech big bads |
| 21:56.46 | GD12_ | the xhodocto were the supernatural lovecraftian big bads |
| 21:56.53 | DrodoEmpire | But then they got blasted |
| 21:57.17 | Wormy_ | Well, I don't think Borg tech is too far off the mark, they neearly have hyperdrives http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/3/35/Transwarphub.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101222212902&path-prefix=en |
| 21:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | Shot up, all that stuff |
| 21:57.30 | drom | Apparently a private school in Washington had a problem of the young girls putting on make up and lipstick in the toliet, everytime they'd do it, they kiss on the mirror, leaving prints of lips on the mirror. The school's commissionarie grew tired of spending hours cleaning the mirror every day, he solved it in an unusual yet genious way: One day he told the girls to go to their restroom as he wanted to demostrate them how hard it is to clean the |
| 21:57.30 | drom | mirror, he takes his scraper -- and dips it in a toliet and whips the mirror clean. |
| 21:57.41 | DrodoEmpire | I think transwarp is pretty freaking behind |
| 21:57.42 | drom | No girl has ever kissed on the mirror ever since |
| 21:58.06 | DrodoEmpire | Plus the Borg have almost no tactics at all which would kill them |
| 21:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | Superior Imperial tactics and extremely slow Borg response time would mean that the GE has the advantage |
| 21:58.44 | DrodoEmpire | Don't think it'd be very close honestly |
| 21:58.49 | Imperios | Alright so I am going to pull off a Charles Murray |
| 21:58.51 | DrodoEmpire | Borg's a bit of a paper dragon |
| 21:58.56 | Imperios | And going to represent my own country in the Fantasyverse |
| 21:58.59 | AGrayCat | What pop would you recommend for my Republic? |
| 21:59.00 | Imperios | Or, rather, my city |
| 21:59.07 | Wormy_ | I only think its close if the Borg had time to gather more tech |
| 21:59.12 | DrodoEmpire | cyka blyat vodka hurhurhur |
| 21:59.16 | GD12_ | 10 trillion with 3,000 colonies or something |
| 21:59.23 | AGrayCat | we only have 543 planets |
| 21:59.24 | GD12_ | thats the Star Trek Federation's size |
| 21:59.28 | AGrayCat | so... calculation? |
| 21:59.34 | Wormy_ | And learn the GE's tactics |
| 21:59.34 | GD12_ | then go with 2 trillion |
| 21:59.38 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: That's fair enough |
| 21:59.44 | GD12_ | why are you hellbent on having 543 planets |
| 21:59.44 | AGrayCat | 2 trillion is a tad bit big |
| 21:59.47 | AGrayCat | cause |
| 21:59.48 | DrodoEmpire | But that's a *big* hypothetical is all I'm saying |
| 21:59.50 | AGrayCat | its a small number |
| 21:59.57 | AGrayCat | allows me to have a small amount of planets |
| 22:00.02 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Nooo, it's "samka sobaki, prodazhnaya zhenschina, alkogolny napitok, kha!" |
| 22:00.08 | AGrayCat | and allows me to be a stupidly small power |
| 22:00.09 | DrodoEmpire | oh |
| 22:00.09 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 22:00.18 | GD12_ | so you're ttrying to be stupidly small intentionally? |
| 22:00.19 | Imperios | I live in the classiest city in Russia and I am going to represent that |
| 22:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | why do you want to be small? XD |
| 22:00.31 | GD12_ | *empire is trying to be stupidly small intentionally |
| 22:00.36 | Wormy_ | The Culture minds would view the GE as cute. |
| 22:00.46 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 22:00.55 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno too much about the Culture honestly (though I want to) |
| 22:01.05 | Wormy_ | And Xeeleeverse huanity would view the Culture as cute |
| 22:01.13 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 22:01.20 | GD12_ | and the xeelee would view xeeleeverse humanity as cute |
| 22:01.23 | GD12_ | and the photino birds |
| 22:01.39 | drom | Tek0516: Update on the arson attempt on my housing today (in Swedish) http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/orebro/misstankt-mordbrand-pa-boende-for-horselskadade |
| 22:01.44 | Wormy_ | And Monads view Xeelee as cute |
| 22:02.18 | Imperios | A ghost port city built on a swamp upon the corpses of those who built it where sun never shines and it always rains. Beautiful architecture but every single inhabitant of the city is actually undead |
| 22:02.21 | Wormy_ | I'm not sure if you can get more powerful than Xhodocto / Monad / Downstreamers level in science fiction |
| 22:02.29 | Imperios | Does that sound like a good idea? |
| 22:02.29 | DrodoEmpire | And late game Prussia sees them all as cute because they basiclaly have space marines by 1700 |
| 22:02.42 | GD12_ | AGrayCat : Being too small can limit your fiction capabilities |
| 22:02.45 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 22:02.48 | GD12_ | *collaboration |
| 22:02.51 | AGrayCat | but 543 is a good number |
| 22:02.56 | DrodoEmpire | Impy: Yeah sure |
| 22:03.02 | AGrayCat | i'm like venice the city state |
| 22:03.04 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps not as good as you'd think |
| 22:03.04 | AGrayCat | we trade |
| 22:03.09 | AGrayCat | we are slightly militaristic |
| 22:03.18 | DrodoEmpire | Eh possibly |
| 22:03.25 | AGrayCat | we have far-flung trade colonies |
| 22:03.30 | DrodoEmpire | Though if you want to be a trading nation a good place for that is the Quadrants |
| 22:03.42 | Imperios | AGrayCat: Make sure to have every single citizen of your empire greedy as fuck |
| 22:03.54 | Imperios | These fucking Venetians cheated me out of my money when I was there |
| 22:04.02 | DrodoEmpire | has *tons* of international trade routes and wormholes up the wazoo |
| 22:04.31 | AGrayCat | hey |
| 22:04.37 | AGrayCat | my people didn't have a choice in settling |
| 22:04.38 | Wormy_ | Xeeleeverse humanity tried to use the energy of a universe going big crunch to stop the Xeelee scourge nearly 1 million years in the future |
| 22:04.46 | AGrayCat | they got pretty much press ganged into settling where they settled |
| 22:04.55 | Wormy_ | didn't work |
| 22:04.56 | AGrayCat | cause they committed genocide |
| 22:05.15 | DrodoEmpire | AGrayCat: You can settle whereever you want OOC |
| 22:05.22 | AGrayCat | uhuh |
| 22:05.29 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Well shit |
| 22:05.31 | AGrayCat | but i chose borealis cause of its description |
| 22:05.45 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. :p |
| 22:05.55 | GD12_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Universal_Order_(2800) |
| 22:06.03 | GD12_ | 543 systems puts your firmly in minor nation status |
| 22:06.03 | Wormy_ | DrodoeMpire: Anyway if you read ThomasP's excerps from one of the books you can see what I mean https://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=150695#p3558329 |
| 22:06.07 | GD12_ | which is not what venice is |
| 22:06.20 | AGrayCat | no text in page bud |
| 22:06.25 | DrodoEmpire | venice had many shekels |
| 22:06.28 | AGrayCat | Venice was a minor nation though. |
| 22:06.33 | AGrayCat | a city-state even with colonies |
| 22:06.34 | DrodoEmpire | lolnope |
| 22:06.34 | GD12_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Universal_Order_(2800) |
| 22:06.47 | GD12_ | ngh |
| 22:06.50 | GD12_ | why isn't link working |
| 22:06.50 | DrodoEmpire | It was a ridiculously rich italian state at its height |
| 22:06.51 | GD12_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Universal_Order_(2800) |
| 22:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | Bracket |
| 22:06.59 | GD12_ | bracket just turns black |
| 22:07.05 | DrodoEmpire | Don't be racist |
| 22:07.07 | DrodoEmpire | What the fuck |
| 22:07.10 | drom | Works fine for me |
| 22:07.11 | GD12_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Universal_Order_(2800)) |
| 22:07.19 | GD12_ | try that then |
| 22:07.22 | GD12_ | Venice was a powerful nation |
| 22:07.23 | drom | Aaaand now it is kaput! |
| 22:07.24 | GD12_ | definitely not minor |
| 22:07.35 | DrodoEmpire | It had a navy capable of taking on the *ottomans* |
| 22:07.51 | DrodoEmpire | Just because it wasn't geographically expansive doesn't mean it didn't hold sway |
| 22:07.53 | AGrayCat | venice was still stupidly tiny compared to most empires |
| 22:07.54 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 22:07.56 | DrodoEmpire | So? |
| 22:07.58 | GD12_ | Venice was an economic and maritime superpower |
| 22:07.59 | AGrayCat | Exactly. |
| 22:08.08 | AGrayCat | I want to have economic capabilities, but be small. |
| 22:08.11 | DrodoEmpire | It was rich and had a lot of friends |
| 22:08.14 | AGrayCat | exactly. |
| 22:08.22 | GD12_ | well heres the thing |
| 22:08.23 | GD12_ | think in character |
| 22:08.39 | Wormy_ | You want it to be reasonable, but not so small your fiction is limited. |
| 22:08.39 | AGrayCat | In character, my nation is a dystopia where my leaders rob the people regularly. |
| 22:08.40 | drom | It also helps that the Ottoman Empire were considered as a pariah state by the Europeans |
| 22:08.45 | drom | was* |
| 22:08.57 | AGrayCat | so |
| 22:09.10 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah europeans were for a long time pretty on board with beating the shit outta the Turks |
| 22:09.13 | GD12_ | tl;dr being too small limits your fiction opportunities |
| 22:09.19 | DrodoEmpire | France had an alliance with them for a while though |
| 22:09.49 | GD12_ | also its gonna take time to make those trade routes with the gigauqadrant |
| 22:10.23 | GD12_ | its not like you're going to introduce them as the magical place where automatically all commerece is rerouted too |
| 22:10.33 | AGrayCat | Could we have had them for a small time? Like a few decades? |
| 22:10.38 | DrodoEmpire | Well I mean if you're playing EUIV you can |
| 22:10.46 | DrodoEmpire | That's a lot of retcons |
| 22:10.49 | GD12_ | could have had what? |
| 22:10.56 | DrodoEmpire | Might be better to establish those connections yourself |
| 22:11.04 | DrodoEmpire | People are open to that sorta thing and its really rewarding |
| 22:11.15 | AGrayCat | trade routes |
| 22:11.19 | drom | Being experienced with Civ5 can help |
| 22:11.25 | AGrayCat | hey i play ciV |
| 22:11.32 | DrodoEmpire | Or EUIV. Own a good trade node and you're set |
| 22:11.54 | AGrayCat | Also, my pop bumped up to 300,000,000,000 |
| 22:12.00 | AGrayCat | military now at 16,000,000 |
| 22:12.05 | AGrayCat | Is that okay? |
| 22:12.15 | AGrayCat | or should I bump it down? |
| 22:12.21 | DrodoEmpire | That's fine/. |
| 22:12.26 | drom | 300 billion, that's enuff |
| 22:12.38 | GD12_ | i guess thats fine |
| 22:13.02 | Xho | You can have any population you want just as long as it isn't disproportionate for the territories |
| 22:13.08 | GD12_ | more soldiers fought in WW2 than that weirdly |
| 22:13.09 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:13.13 | GD12_ | and thats only a single planet |
| 22:13.45 | DrodoEmpire | Every fiction character that isn't human - *self important rant about the violent nature of humans* |
| 22:14.03 | GD12_ | the us alone had 16.4 million people enlistd during WWII |
| 22:14.37 | GD12_ | with a population of 130 million |
| 22:15.07 | DrodoEmpire | I think at some point Canada had close to/a whole eighth of its population enlisted |
| 22:15.17 | DrodoEmpire | Also at the end of WWI Canada had the world's largest navy |
| 22:15.18 | AGrayCat | with the 1% rule i could have 3,000,000,000 (3 billion) people in my military |
| 22:15.18 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:15.32 | Xho | Self important rant about violent nature of humans -> At least 70% of the Gigaquadrant is more violent than humans |
| 22:15.39 | DrodoEmpire | That's the joke |
| 22:15.45 | GD12_ | ^^ |
| 22:15.47 | AGrayCat | and that is with the 1% rule |
| 22:15.59 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk Reminds me of this |
| 22:16.13 | Wormy_ | That's the joke |
| 22:16.20 | Wormy_ | Uh oh, recursion! |
| 22:17.02 | AGrayCat | h |
| 22:17.32 | Xho | Hachi_Away: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12241694_1234685629890636_3038910716343195586_n.jpg?oh=254b385d4034fb3caed67c1d5142a489&oe=56EB5098 |
| 22:17.43 | AGrayCat | how long should my people live for |
| 22:17.53 | DrodoEmpire | Depends a lot on quality of life and species |
| 22:18.00 | DrodoEmpire | And social class and all that |
| 22:18.25 | DrodoEmpire | Having a comprehensive and free healthcare program would mean your people likely live very long and healthy lives for your species |
| 22:18.26 | Xho | If they're advanced enough they could technically live forever if they've achieved technological immortality |
| 22:18.39 | DrodoEmpire | If that doesn't exist then its probably pretty short |
| 22:18.43 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:18.51 | GD12_ | just give it a few hundred years |
| 22:18.53 | DrodoEmpire | And yes with advanced technology you can be immortal |
| 22:18.57 | DrodoEmpire | Like with France |
| 22:19.15 | Xho | Not quite sure how many civilisations have done that but it's not a particularly advanced medium |
| 22:19.29 | AGrayCat | some of my leaders elsewhere are immortal |
| 22:19.39 | AGrayCat | elsewhere, not on sporewiki |
| 22:19.48 | AGrayCat | though very very few |
| 22:19.51 | Xho | I mean humanity is talking about it now let alone a civilisation as advanced as France or the Draconis |
| 22:20.01 | AGrayCat | And I wanted Kmouv' to die eventually. |
| 22:20.09 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo for example have a pretty good free healthcare system, but a lot of Drodo (mostly males) die rather young anyway due to workplace accidents or violence (Drodo have a really big miliary they use a lot of clan/tribal warfare is common on poorer planets) |
| 22:20.11 | AGrayCat | Kmouv'... how does 137 sound? |
| 22:20.37 | DrodoEmpire | *and they have a lot of clan/tribal warfare |
| 22:21.53 | GD12_ | sounds good |
| 22:21.56 | DrodoEmpire | Nowhere near a dystopia but its a noticable problem |
| 22:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah |
| 22:22.01 | AGrayCat | My guy dies at 137 in 2093. |
| 22:22.03 | GD12_ | exact numbers don't matter that much tbh |
| 22:22.08 | GD12_ | think more about overarching themes |
| 22:22.13 | GD12_ | and unique characrteristics |
| 22:23.25 | AGrayCat | the number really does matter |
| 22:23.34 | AGrayCat | i want a giant civil war to happen around the same time |
| 22:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | I take a great interest in history and if there's one thing I learnt its that specifics are rarely relevant |
| 22:24.23 | DrodoEmpire | They're *great* for fleshing things out |
| 22:24.44 | DrodoEmpire | But they should be put aside for a bit until you have the greatest trends and events down pat |
| 22:25.02 | GD12_ | get the overall form done first |
| 22:25.05 | GD12_ | then worry about specifics |
| 22:25.28 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 22:25.39 | DrodoEmpire | I do live the detail though |
| 22:25.42 | DrodoEmpire | Excellent writing |
| 22:25.46 | GD12_ | aye thats true |
| 22:25.49 | DrodoEmpire | *love the detail |
| 22:26.59 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah I imagine in Drodo vs. Star trek Federation taking over a planet would probably only need a few brigades of infantry and cavalry. :p |
| 22:27.37 | DrodoEmpire | I don't think they have militias of any sort so unless starfleet's there its a matter of walking into town square and putting up the flag |
| 22:27.57 | GD12_ | basically a parade unit then |
| 22:27.58 | AGrayCat | I'm writing a heavily dystopian part. |
| 22:28.00 | GD12_ | an intimidating one |
| 22:28.00 | DrodoEmpire | And if there is then a few cavalry charges would probably scare'em into the woods |
| 22:28.03 | GD12_ | aye |
| 22:28.09 | GD12_ | try to shock hussars |
| 22:28.15 | DrodoEmpire | Right. XD |
| 22:28.16 | AGrayCat | It details how the entire Republic fell apart after Kmouv'alk died. |
| 22:28.21 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting |
| 22:29.33 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah basically they'd just march in without a shot fired. |
| 22:30.15 | DrodoEmpire | A "major" (as far as starfleet can actually muster a ground army) battle would probably again just be some skirmishing, and then the Drodo would inevitably break the Federation lines with an advance: or a bayonet charge |
| 22:30.49 | DrodoEmpire | Considering phasers can't penetrate packing crates, pretty sure real body armour could hold back a shot or two. XD |
| 22:31.11 | GD12_ | you could have drodo porters lead the charge |
| 22:31.15 | GD12_ | with giant packing crates |
| 22:31.29 | GD12_ | an army of forklifts |
| 22:31.36 | DrodoEmpire | ololol |
| 22:31.46 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - That'll learn'em |
| 22:32.32 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah like I said beating the federation's not an impressive feat |
| 22:32.51 | GD12_ | a better landmark imo |
| 22:32.54 | AGrayCat | even we could beat em |
| 22:32.54 | GD12_ | the UNSC |
| 22:32.56 | GD12_ | then Covenant |
| 22:32.59 | GD12_ | then the Imperium of Man |
| 22:33.10 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire http://imgur.com/gallery/yXhFuR8 |
| 22:33.21 | DrodoEmpire | Nor is beating the Klingons really, besides the fact they probably wouldn't flee at the sight of a thin line of infantry with bayonets fixed |
| 22:33.23 | GD12_ | THEN the Star Wars Empire (but only on a tactical scale so the 70 million planets of the empire isnt a factor) |
| 22:33.45 | DrodoEmpire | GD: yeah that's true |
| 22:34.04 | DrodoEmpire | UNSC would probably be a slightly more even fight |
| 22:34.12 | DrodoEmpire | Though I dunno much about their capabilities |
| 22:34.21 | DrodoEmpire | Covenant would be pretty even possibly |
| 22:34.31 | DrodoEmpire | IoM is where the Drodo would run into *serious* trouble |
| 22:34.58 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe not on the tactical level so much but pitting the entire Empire and the entire Imperium isn't gonna go well for the Drodo |
| 22:35.05 | GD12_ | ^ |
| 22:35.11 | GD12_ | Drodo would probably be like the Tau |
| 22:35.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's a good comparison |
| 22:35.22 | GD12_ | in that they could contest the IOM tactically bc long range power |
| 22:35.24 | GD12_ | but just because of scale |
| 22:35.34 | GD12_ | you ain't gonna see Drodoian cavalry prancing through terra |
| 22:35.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:35.41 | DrodoEmpire | Right hur |
| 22:36.17 | Wormy_ | DCP vs. GE would probably grind into attrition warfare. The DCP could probably take IoM but doubtful they could establish order and would regret going to that hellhole of a universe |
| 22:36.35 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:36.39 | DrodoEmpire | makes a lot of sense |
| 22:36.46 | Xho | xhodocto fuk u alllll |
| 22:36.51 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 22:36.56 | Wormy_ | Daleks, Culture etc mop the floor with the DCP, and probably about any SporeWikiverse power |
| 22:37.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:37.20 | AGrayCat | what about grox |
| 22:37.25 | AGrayCat | sporewiki gro |
| 22:37.26 | AGrayCat | grox |
| 22:37.28 | Wormy_ | Meta-Empire? |
| 22:37.32 | AGrayCat | uhuh |
| 22:37.34 | AGrayCat | and all the independents |
| 22:37.38 | Xho | Grox are very middle-tier on the wiki |
| 22:37.38 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - *Tips over a Dalek* Aha! |
| 22:37.45 | DrodoEmpire | Nowadays yeah |
| 22:37.59 | AGrayCat | What about the Xhodocto at their peak? |
| 22:38.13 | DrodoEmpire | Xhodocto aren't even on the scale |
| 22:38.20 | DrodoEmpire | They're more akin to a force of nature |
| 22:38.21 | AGrayCat | how? |
| 22:38.33 | DrodoEmpire | As opposed to a state |
| 22:38.33 | GD12_ | xhodocto at peak is basically god |
| 22:38.40 | Wormy_ | Are Necrons low, mid or high Tier 1? |
| 22:38.49 | GD12_ | probably low/mid |
| 22:38.51 | Xho | Necrons are probably mid |
| 22:38.57 | AGrayCat | So |
| 22:38.59 | AGrayCat | any criticism? |
| 22:39.00 | Xho | They've got a few weird quirks though |
| 22:39.01 | AGrayCat | I updated. |
| 22:39.02 | AGrayCat | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Glistennaen_National_Republics |
| 22:39.15 | DrodoEmpire | Reading now |
| 22:39.27 | AGrayCat | now including a dystopian section! |
| 22:39.29 | Wormy_ | And the Eldar / Dark Eldar seem very advanced too |
| 22:39.40 | GD12_ | i'll take back what i said about numbers |
| 22:39.43 | Xho | Notably the fact that they use psychotic fragments of their former gods to power up WOMDs |
| 22:39.46 | GD12_ | your level fo detail is great |
| 22:39.51 | AGrayCat | who? |
| 22:39.55 | Xho | The Necrons |
| 22:40.27 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 22:40.32 | AGrayCat | talking to GD12_ |
| 22:40.49 | Xho | oh |
| 22:40.53 | AGrayCat | the necrons? if so please link meh i'm always looking for detailed stuff |
| 22:41.00 | AGrayCat | i love reading it |
| 22:41.06 | GD12_ | http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Necron |
| 22:41.16 | Wormy_ | Xho: Fallout vs. Skyrim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlhXKjSy6M |
| 22:41.31 | AGrayCat | GD12_ |
| 22:41.37 | GD12_ | yes? |
| 22:41.41 | AGrayCat | Who were you talking about when you talked about the detail though? |
| 22:41.45 | AGrayCat | Xho? |
| 22:41.46 | GD12_ | your fiction |
| 22:41.48 | AGrayCat | oh |
| 22:42.46 | AGrayCat | well uh |
| 22:42.51 | AGrayCat | thanks |
| 22:43.01 | Xho | Wormy_: In all truth the Dragonborn would destroy the Lone Wanderer |
| 22:43.15 | AGrayCat | xho do you have an opinion on my fiction? |
| 22:43.20 | GD12_ | I contemplate the fanfiction empires thing as well. Even that their most powerful the Dominatus would need to lube up for a solidly high tier 1 power such as galactic patrol, culture, and daleks |
| 22:43.22 | Xho | Haven't read it |
| 22:43.32 | Xho | Also I'm usually uncomfortable with giving opinions |
| 22:43.54 | DrodoEmpire | Looks fine GrayCat, appreciate the detail |
| 22:44.14 | DrodoEmpire | Like the idea of leaving the homeworld |
| 22:45.03 | AGrayCat | I plan to add a full-on funeral section. |
| 22:45.03 | Xho | That being said I dunno about the Hero of Kvatch vs The Dragonborn |
| 22:45.06 | Wormy_ | I totally agree |
| 22:45.26 | Xho | The Hero of Kvatch is technically Sheogorath so he instantly wins |
| 22:45.28 | Xho | or she |
| 22:45.57 | Xho | AGrayCat: The only criticism I'd have is that the paragraphs are too short, perhaps you should join some together |
| 22:46.11 | Xho | It would make it easier to read |
| 22:46.13 | AGrayCat | hmm |
| 22:46.20 | AGrayCat | I plan to expand them massively later on. |
| 22:46.24 | AGrayCat | I'm just laying down framework |
| 22:46.29 | AGrayCat | and then adding the meat to the bone |
| 22:46.44 | AGrayCat | I want a clear view of what happens before I adventure out into the world of detail |
| 22:48.51 | AGrayCat | imagine the G.N.R as almost as bad as oceania |
| 22:48.56 | AGrayCat | just moderately bette |
| 22:48.57 | AGrayCat | better |
| 22:49.06 | AGrayCat | since most people aren't investigated |
| 22:49.11 | AGrayCat | and the ENTIRE government lives in luxury |
| 22:49.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 22:49.43 | AGrayCat | I plan to make a Kmouv'alk cult later on, based completely around Kmouv'alk and how he is the 'god incarnate'. |
| 22:49.53 | AGrayCat | Or, 'spode incarnate;. |
| 22:50.11 | AGrayCat | after various integration processes into sporewiki society |
| 22:50.21 | DrodoEmpire | Can be either or |
| 22:50.30 | DrodoEmpire | Spodism exists but a lot of other religions do too |
| 22:50.48 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo have a bunch of religions native to them, and things like Christianity and Islam are still kicking around |
| 22:51.19 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~yaaic@95.140.92.2) |
| 22:53.38 | ImpyDroid | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e1/Naucean_gibil.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060708102229 Dear Lord fish ISIS Nazi dude |
| 22:53.40 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 22:53.51 | DrodoEmpire | k |
| 22:55.19 | AGrayCat | ok just edited it |
| 22:55.25 | AGrayCat | cult of personality just turned full north korea |
| 22:55.32 | AGrayCat | actually north korea looks nice in comparison |
| 22:55.43 | DrodoEUIV | Playing EUIV for a bit |
| 22:56.41 | AGrayCat | wait |
| 22:56.44 | AGrayCat | talk pages are used for roleplay |
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| 22:57.16 | GD12_ | yeah |
| 22:57.21 | GD12_ | rolepaly also happens on titanpad |
| 22:57.27 | AGrayCat | yay |
| 22:57.34 | AGrayCat | i could get on-board with the roleplay |
| 22:57.37 | GD12_ | and back in the day it happened overirc as well |
| 22:58.21 | Wormy_ | I remember, you'd have a roleplay and a conversatyion or two at the same time |
| 22:59.47 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.01 | AGrayCat | what eh what? |
| 23:00.09 | AGrayCat | also |
| 23:00.14 | AGrayCat | i'm busy doing a relations graph |
| 23:00.21 | Xho | All of a sudden, Korean |
| 23:01.02 | ImpyDroid | I actually said "Best Korea is STRONG" |
| 23:01.29 | DrodoEmpire | korea stronk |
| 23:02.08 | AGrayCat | hm |
| 23:02.21 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait I said that wrong |
| 23:02.23 | ImpyDroid | FUCK |
| 23:02.31 | AGrayCat | well i'm off |
| 23:02.35 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. |
| 23:02.37 | DrodoEmpire | See you later! |
| 23:02.45 | AGrayCat | tomorrow i plan to do all about brutal punishments in the nation and more! |
| 23:02.50 | DrodoEmpire | Alrighty |
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| 23:13.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 23:13.42 | Cuttlefish | Hi |
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| 23:13.47 | Cuttlefish | Wow. The IRC looks really different. |
| 23:14.47 | DrodoEmpire | Just notice? XD |
| 23:14.55 | DrodoEmpire | First time on in a while? |
| 23:15.48 | Cuttlefish | Yes. I got very busy with other stuff. Also, as far as I know, nothing has happened in a while. |
| 23:16.16 | DrodoEmpire | Fictionwise you mean? |
| 23:17.15 | DrodoEmpire | Because a *lot* has happened with the fictionverse lately. XD |
| 23:18.08 | Cuttlefish | What kind of things? You make anything fun? I still haven't read any of the newer stories. I should probably do that. |
| 23:18.24 | DrodoEmpire | The Great Xonexian Schism for one |
| 23:18.27 | DrodoEmpire | France's rise to power |
| 23:18.34 | DrodoEmpire | My fiction has some developments |
| 23:18.52 | DrodoEmpire | Not the best educated on Borealis but pretty sure new stuff's coming out of there all the time |
| 23:19.07 | DrodoEmpire | I'd take a look |
| 23:19.37 | Cuttlefish | I thought the great xonexian war thing was a doomed fart fiction that made everyone upset |
| 23:20.06 | DrodoEmpire | No no |
| 23:20.13 | DrodoEmpire | It started out *really* rough yes |
| 23:20.23 | DrodoEmpire | But it got off the ground quick after that whole controversy settled down |
| 23:20.35 | DrodoEmpire | People made their decision and things were revised |
| 23:20.35 | Cuttlefish | That's nice to hear. |
| 23:20.39 | DrodoEmpire | *decisions |
| 23:21.05 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway best not talk too much about that |
| 23:21.32 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire - Mine's right here if you're curious |
| 23:52.34 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11737967_10153779966861840_2627715964314647608_n.jpg?oh=bc5f6f6e39632114b19a413303a8d618&oe=56B86BE1 Rather true |
| 23:54.09 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
