IRC log for #sporewiki on 20151119

00:02.04dromI see
00:02.15dromOps. I haven't got so much time to talk now.
00:02.28dromI hope you'll enjoy your time here! Cause no trouble!
00:06.08PurpleBoraillianI will now depart
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14:15.43ImpyDroidHi
14:16.07ImpyDroidWormy_ OluapPlayer Tek0516: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1447941490399.png
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14:16.34Tek0516O.o
14:20.53Wormy_But will it blend?
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14:45.34GhelaeHello.
14:45.40TekDroid_Hello
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14:49.55Wormy_TekDroid:  Are you any good at spotting undefined type errors?
14:51.23OluapPlayer_I don't get it
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16:10.00Wormy_Fixing a coding problem that's persisted for 3 days is such a high feeling.
16:11.16Wormy_its worth it in the end, all that toil
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16:42.38HachimanHi
16:43.15GhelaeHello.
16:44.29TekDroidHello
16:47.08Wormy_This works in my browsers http://myriadofthings.tk/
16:47.32Wormy_You should be able to control rotation speed
16:48.08Wormy_Site and model are crappy but I'm just testing things for the moment
16:48.12GhelaeYes, it works.
16:48.22GhelaeIncluding rotation.
16:48.46Wormy_Thanks, hooray!  It took me 2 and half days to fix that GUI
16:49.30Wormy_I'm making a site for geological visualisations that my former lecturer can use
17:03.35Wormy_Ghelae, TekDroid:  I've found this very interesting simulator, it can incorporate mutation and selection without special programming.  Starts off as a dead sea of bits, a replicator is inserted which starts copying itself in the computer's memory, and the rest i down to chaos http://playinggod.150m.com/tierra/
17:04.37Wormy_Don't worry about "creationtheory.org", its genuine
17:11.16Wormy_Ghelae:  Do you know much about the multi-selection theory vs. gene-centered evolution argument?  If you want to start a fight at an evolutionary biology conference, that is the way to do it.
17:12.04GhelaeI might do, but I can't remember off the top of my head what the two are.
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17:12.29Wormy_I'd agree genes are the best unit of selection but I can't see why other levels like the individual or kin can't also have emergent levels of natural selection
17:13.24HachimanHi Imp
17:13.46HachimanImperios: http://i.imgur.com/qfNq3jI.png?1 Female Tuungar
17:13.56ImperiosIf it has tits then I swear
17:14.13HachimanYou swear
17:14.24ImperiosOh the tits are not very pronounced
17:14.39OluapPlayerHi
17:14.41HachimanThat's just the angle
17:14.47ImperiosThen again since these are Zazane I suppose they ought to have tits
17:14.49ImperiosHi OP
17:14.56HachimanThat was my line of thinking hur
17:15.04HachimanAnd hey, dragons have had tits before
17:15.09HachimanLook at Alexstraza
17:15.25HachimanAlexsreasza even
17:15.32HachimanAlexstrasza even
17:15.46ImperiosShe does not have tits as a dragon hur
17:15.47OluapPlayerYou mean her non-dragon form
17:16.43HachimanNonetheless
17:38.44HachimanImperios: So apparently Putin said on the topic of ISIS, "To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me."
17:38.52HachimanI am wondering if this is actually something he said
17:38.57ImperiosDoubt it
17:39.00HachimanBecause my Facebook friends are going mental over it
17:39.47ImperiosWhat he did say is that if necessary, Russian forces will pursue terrorists even in toilets
17:39.55ImperiosBut that was a while ago
17:44.14HachimanAlso apparently ISIS runs its own magazine, called Dabiq
17:44.31ImperiosThey have good mass media coverage in general
17:44.33ImperiosAlso wait
17:44.47ImperiosAre your Facebook friends crazy Putinist right-wingers or something
17:45.15HachimanMy friends do believe Putin is a beneficial leader and play in international affairs
17:45.22HachimanMost of them like him
17:45.55ImperiosWhat the
17:46.42ImperiosDo they by any chance say tht Putin will protect Europe from the Islamic threat
17:46.51HachimanSome of them do
17:47.43HachimanISIS also appears to not argue against being labelled as terrorists in their own magazine and are known for showing pictures of corpses and dead IS soldiers as a means to not shy away from the truth and brutality of their movement
17:48.44ImperiosHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NQvO829pR4 Show them this video
17:48.48HachimanAll Westerners are also known by the term "Crusader", no matter their race or social standing
17:50.38HachimanIt is rather insightful and yet terrifying reading into how ISIS views itself; they do not value the ideal of freedom and do not call themselves freedom-fighters, as they refer to themselves as "slaves of Allah", and are actually not all that bothered by people referring to them as "Daesh"
17:51.22HachimanAlso the fact that they have good media coverage, which contrasts with the idea of them being primitive barbarians
17:51.58ImperiosWait is that the first time you saw ISIS media stuff
17:52.06ImperiosThese guys know their stuff
17:52.15ImperiosThey're very good at media
17:53.00HachimanI know that ISIS uses Twitter as its primary means of recruitment and are very good at translation into other languages
17:56.21TekDroidIt definitely adapted to the modern age.
17:56.29HachimanISIS is actually facing financial and economic difficulties as of recent due to having to pay their soldiers and initially gained funding from robbing Iraqi banks, and are facing trouble with funding because taxpayers are fleeing from the Middle East and into the West
17:57.13OluapPlayerGas the zealots
17:57.58TekDroidI think I'd heard about the financial problems. Perhaps the only good news about them.
17:58.24HachimanAnd, surprise surprise, they consider the US a reliable source of weaponry
17:59.22HachimanWeapons and equipment supplied and deployed into Iraq by the US and other countries is often captured by ISIS and used against them
17:59.36TekDroidThe country where the average citizen is capable of buying assault weaponry and a massive military industry?
18:00.04ImperiosThey actually made a huge one-hour video conspiracy theory rant
18:00.33ImperiosSomething about "banking is SATANIC, paper money is SATANIC", and concluded it all with a nasheed music video
18:00.37ImperiosAlbeit a very well made one
18:00.54HachimanTheir graphic design and editing is done quite well
18:01.06HachimanISIS also seems to be fighting a war on drugs in its own territory, which is rather amusing
18:01.27TekDroidHuh
18:01.39ImperiosHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUHbTX7FSiE A nasheed
18:01.41ImperiosIN ENGLISH
18:02.06OluapPlayerI read that as "paper money is SANIC" at first
18:02.10OluapPlayerGotta bomb fast
18:02.21ImperiosIt's actually a bit strange how similar they are to 20th century fascist groups
18:02.26ImperiosEspecially in how they glorify the past
18:02.40ImperiosThe old Caliphates to ISIS are what the First Reich was to Hitler
18:02.55HachimanISIS actually vehemently despises Iran and despises the Taliban for fighting with Iran's backing
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18:03.06HachimanWhich is the real reason why ISIS and the Taliban fight one another
18:03.12Tek0516I was actually thinking about that parallel earlier
18:04.17Hachimanal-Qaeda is also hated by ISIS
18:04.33ImperiosHachiman: The main reason is that Iran is the center of the Shi'a world
18:04.44OluapPlayerAs if anyone cares for who ISIS likes or not, they're the scum of the world in everyone's eyes
18:05.08ImperiosThey're basically the main rival not only of ISIS but of all Salafi and Wahhabi groups
18:05.13ImperiosLike Saudi Arabia
18:05.25ImperiosWhich is why they are working with Assad
18:05.47HachimanAye
18:05.49ImperiosHachiman: Iran actually made an ISIS caricature competition
18:07.05Hachimanhur
18:07.29Imperioshttp://data1.ibtimes.co.in/en/full/573172/anti-isis-cartoon-exhibition-being-held-iran.jpg "What the fuck, ANOTHER fundamentalist theocracy on OUR turf? COPYCATS!"
18:08.20HachimanThey hate "apostate Muslims" - Sawafi, or Shiite Muslims - more than any one nation in the Western world and consider them as heretics and Shiite leaders as false idols
18:09.02ImperiosPretty much yes
18:09.11HachimanIt is somewhat astounding how little Western politicians know about ISIS' motivations and their way of life
18:09.43ImperiosAdmittedly, the whole ISIS situation made me respect Iran somewhat
18:10.29OluapPlayerhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUMAzDTWwAA23Lb.png meanwhile at TF2
18:10.31ImperiosThey're fundamentalist, but compared to their enemies they now look much more respectable - for all their problems they are still, more or less, a civilised nation
18:10.37Hachimanhur
18:11.14HachimanThe Islamic State is a media and tech-savvy faction of medieval-minded militants
18:11.34Hachiman... Kinda like Zazane actually
18:12.27ImperiosFunny because if you think about it, Radeons are a lot like Iran
18:12.46HachimanI figured Iran was one of their main inspirations hur
18:14.16ImperiosStrangely enough it wasn't
18:14.39ImperiosBut it was kinda every single nation AROUND the Iranian world
18:14.56ImperiosIndia, the Caliphate, the Byzantines and China
18:14.56HachimanI have no respect for ISIS or anything that their group stands for but I find that it is rather insightful looking into their way of life and their motivations
18:15.01HachimanUnderstanding the enemy and such
18:15.05ImperiosHeh
18:15.33ImperiosGotta agree with you, I do the same
18:17.03ImperiosOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvRblT21scI Look what I found
18:17.15ImperiosIt's pretty much the Nightshade Clan's theme
18:19.07HachimanIt is a little dum that politicians do not make much of an effort to educate people on ISIS, but then I suppose it is easier to fight an enemy painted as one-dimensional and inhuman
18:19.22OluapPlayerI like it
18:19.24OluapPlayerIt fits
18:19.49ImperiosBecause, in the end, it is the monster that we are responsible for creating
18:19.53OluapPlayerAlso fits since I imagine Castle Nightshade being locked in constant snow storms
18:20.24HachimanISIS does not lie or shy away from the brutality and realities faced by warriors and soldiers of their members, and they do not object to being called terrorists as they refer to themselves as "soldiers of terror"
18:21.35OluapPlayerThem realizing they're scum doesn't make them any less scum in my eyes
18:22.19ImperiosThey're viewing themselves as successors to the Rashidun caliphs\
18:22.27ImperiosFor them Europe is like the new Byzantine Empire
18:23.06HachimanIt is almost surreal that we have a faction like this existing in the 2010s
18:23.35ImperiosWe had a faction like this existing in the 1940s
18:23.38ImperiosWhy not now hur
18:23.41OluapPlayer>tfw we have even worse things existing in the 2800a
18:23.44OluapPlayer2800s eveb
18:23.45OluapPlayereven
18:23.46OluapPlayerFuck
18:23.51ImperiosISIS actually evolves into the Xhodocto
18:24.17HachimanImagine if Christian extremist-fundamentalists were able to attain the same level of influence, prominence, and military outfitting as ISIS
18:24.56OluapPlayerThat exists and is called USA
18:25.00OluapPlayercryingeagle.gif
18:25.00Hachimanhur
18:25.54ImperiosAdmittedly Christianity has the benefit of not originating in a rising empire
18:26.17ImperiosSo it's harder for Christians to justify conquering everyone - but that's where nationalism comes in
18:26.27OluapPlayerhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/88/Battlemaster_Murgur.png/revision/latest?cb=20151119160816 I tried to make a picture of a battle aura
18:26.31OluapPlayerResults are questionable
18:26.44HachimanI quite like it
18:27.01Hachimanbrb
18:28.27ImperiosMagic aura
18:29.01OluapPlayerMagic space orc aura
18:30.21OluapPlayerI have nothing to do on the wiki baaaaaaaah
18:38.19HachimanNgh there's really strong thunder tonight
18:39.59HachimanI was gonna put my headphones on but given there is now a storm, I do not quite feel like doing that
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18:52.47HachimanImperios: God fucking damnit I cannot stop listening to that nasheed
18:53.17ImperiosShi'a nasheeds are actually better though
18:53.28Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK2LXxcW4E
18:54.31HachimanIs Salil Sawarim / Saleel al-Sawarim a Shi'a or Sunni nasheed
18:54.39HachimanAlso that one is pretty good
18:54.46ImperiosSunni
18:54.52ImperiosShi'a have dank beats
18:55.23Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5BzovaaHo Also THIS
18:55.30ImperiosDROPPING BEAT LIKE DROPPING BOMBS
18:55.53Hachiman>autotune nasheed
18:56.22HachimanShi'arex
18:57.41ImperiosHis songs are essentially terrorism for ears
19:00.11ImperiosBTW
19:01.49HachimanHm?
19:03.35Hachiman"Instead of dropping bombs on Israel, Hezbollah has decided to drop a fire ass mixtape."
19:07.00HachimanImperios: So Hezbollah does not seem much like a terrorist group as some people I know who know of it seem to associate it with
19:07.09ImperiosHezbollah is a mixed case
19:07.20ImperiosThey are not considered terrorists here
19:08.27HachimanI do not think they are considered terrorists here either, or at least, I have not heard them be considered terrorists
19:08.40HachimanI am not one for Israeli propaganda hur
19:09.27HachimanThe people I know just seem to lump them in with ISIS, the Taliban, al-Qaeda etc because Islamic militants
19:10.50HachimanAlthough I also hear they are anti-West
19:10.57HachimanOr at least anti-Western imperialism
19:11.01HachimanWhich is understandable
19:11.12ImperiosThey're pretty brutal BUT they at least originated as a resistance group against Israeli expansion, they fight ISIS and they also fund hospitals and stuff in Lebanon
19:11.58ImperiosOn the other hand they are party responsible for the civil war that resulted in many rich and talented Lebanese Christians leaving the country
19:12.04ImperiosWhich was a bad thing for Lebanon
19:12.07HachimanOuch
19:14.24ImperiosOn the other hand
19:14.31ImperiosThis resulted in Salma Hayek being born
19:14.49Hachimanhur
19:15.16HachimanI can imagine many militant groups arising like this after the Brood gets ded'd
19:15.26HachimanTerrorists and resistance fighters and such
19:15.29ImperiosAnd joining the Brotherhood at that
19:15.48ImperiosAlso don't steal my space Muslim groove hur
19:15.54Hachiman;-;
19:28.50HachimanWell, I just found out about a man called Abu Azrael, aka "the Angel of Death"
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19:30.01ImperiosFor some reason I imagine him as a monkey in a hood
19:30.13HachimanHe is a figure who supposedly sports more than 1,500 confirmed kills against ISIS in little over a year and he wields both a sword and a modified battle-axe, which he uses for his guerilla-style warfare tactics against them
19:30.25HachimanApparently, mere mention of him is prohibited in IS territories
19:30.40Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12274440_1655909201357421_8238404550159899471_n.jpg?oh=453ba276abeb24b1f122ca0c69636924&oe=56ECE2E8 This is him apparently
19:31.05ImperiosHis Allahu is akbarer
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19:32.58Technobliteratorwell
19:32.59TechnobliteratorI think we're ready to convert all our infoboxes
19:32.59Technobliteratorbut it'll be literally the third time I've converted every infobox on the site
19:33.14Technobliteratoralthough
19:33.15Technobliteratormight be waiting on a few features first?
19:33.26HachimanHe is supposedly a Shiite Muslim who once fought in the Mahdi Army and has been said to have been involved in numerous war crimes, yet he also supposedly vows to protect minorities such as Christians in the Middle East
19:35.39OluapPlayerMay as well do it now unless there's something stopping you from doing it
19:36.12HachimanImperios: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12182793_1697729137124364_2238355925576719883_o.png
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19:38.25dromHachiman: I assume that you've already seen "Cooking with Papyrus" long time ago?
19:38.33TekDroidHello
19:38.34HachimanAye I have
19:39.08dromIt is pretty much priceless
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19:43.21Hachiman"I pointed the gun at the sick bastard who killed my wife. He sobbed as he feared for what was to come. I pulled the trigger. If only he spoke and tried to reason with me the maybe he could've lived. But that was obviously not going to happen. After all, he was born just a few minutes ago."
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20:03.02ImperiosHachiman: http://img08.deviantart.net/98e6/i/2013/022/8/e/vatican_cybertron_by_dejano23-d4ot5p9.jpg
20:03.33HachimanNote the Marker from Dead Space
20:04.46dromNote the number of the beast
20:05.44OluapPlayernote the picture
20:06.02HachimanNote the link
20:06.36dromNote the Imperios
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20:37.27DrodoEmpireHi everyone
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21:49.06Wormy_hi
21:54.23Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/C2VGJdu.gif
21:54.38DrodoAwayayy
21:54.42DrodoAwayAlso hi
21:56.15Wormy_moar http://imgur.com/gallery/Y1gSN
21:57.26Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/NUREgKr
21:58.46Wormy_aww yis http://imgur.com/gallery/Ilq3e
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22:02.34Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/1bT0fJq
22:03.56Wormy_DrodoAway: http://i.imgur.com/Hgbf9sz.jpg
22:04.07DrodoAwayolol
22:04.25DrodoEmpireM&B multiplayer be like
22:05.04Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/nrDicBp.jpg
22:05.39Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/cycVk8B.jpg
22:05.56Wormy_and the rest http://imgur.com/gallery/EB04v
22:06.51DrodoEmpireolol
22:07.05DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/H3xNZHJ.gifv - meanwhile, in saudi arabia
22:07.59Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/x57OkQ9.jpg
22:08.18DrodoEmpirelul
22:08.19Wormy_olol
22:20.29Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/b3HX6qh
22:21.45Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Bxnlf
22:28.23DrodoEmpiretest
22:31.28Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/a7GPFKI
22:31.37Wormy_no tear shampoo is a lie anyway
22:34.23Wormy_Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/0qFQalI
22:35.20Hachimanolol
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22:46.18DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/i5Pu6jR - #LindapendenceDay
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22:49.23Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/04wRVGB
22:53.21DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/qovSlQ7 - These CS:GO skins are getting out of hand
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22:58.39Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/5CPuX18.png?1 So I tried to make a Tuungar (Mongol-esque dragonfolk) character - a Fantasyverse equivalent of Tyraz, even
22:59.38DrodoEmpireOoh nice
22:59.50HachimanImp said to me that while the Tuungar would be primarily range-oriented - using bows, spears, javelins, and lances, etc - they could use Wolverine-style katars for CQC
23:00.03DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/ySGQo
23:00.08DrodoEmpireInteresting
23:00.08HachimanAt the cost of kinda sucking at melee range and having to use swords as a last resort
23:08.35HachimanHe also gave me the suggestion that the Tuungar apply venomancy (magic poison and stuff) to their weaponry
23:08.58HachimanWhich I imagine makes up for the fact that they are mostly range and close-quarters oriented
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