IRC log for #sporewiki on 20151110

00:00.09HachimanI remember at least one was told to have eaten a human child once
00:10.11DrodoEmpiretest
00:15.00WormydroidEasily
00:15.34WormydroidI remember one episode a man was drowned by a fish dragging him down. Whether it ate himI dont know
00:16.21WormydroidOr, when a bride and groom went to a shallow lake for some romance and the bride was taken
00:17.27HachimanAye I remember that
00:17.29WormydroidFor a fishing show I admire the program's ability to reach out to audiences who aren't into fishibg
00:17.33HachimanSome of those tales are grim
00:18.09HachimanEven if some of them are not so believable as others, you have to admire how terrifying they are in essence
00:20.55WormydroidYeah, I couldn't help but wonder if the bride one, was actually murder
00:22.30WormydroidThe lamprey one was good. not as deadly as the other fish, but certainly don't want to be bitten by one
00:23.40OluapPlayerLampreys are the worst thing ever
00:27.35dromGTA:MP b ded
00:27.36dromhttps://gta-mp.net/
00:33.18WormydroidGives Oluap Lamprey disease
00:33.42WormydroidSern that meme with Lamprey jaws photoshopped onto skin?
00:33.59HachimanI vaguely remember something like that
00:35.38OluapPlayerGood lord why would someone do that
00:36.51MonetIt's the internet.
00:37.12dromI think I've seen
00:37.40dromThat huge lamprey impaled on a stick though
00:38.31HachimanYeah
00:39.40WormydroidYou usually see Lamprey disease on viral clickbait
00:40.24dromTek0516 Technobliterator: https://www.humankode.com/security/how-a-bug-in-visual-studio-2015-exposed-my-source-code-on-github-and-cost-me-6500-in-a-few-hours
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00:42.00GD12hey
00:42.17dromHey, GD12
00:42.29dromToo bad that you just came on as I was about to get to bed
00:49.17WormydroidHi
00:49.31WormydroidY sleep
00:54.16DrodoEmpirebe back in a bit
00:58.42WormydroidI hate toe cramp
01:00.15dromWormydroid: Try ingrown toe nails
01:03.37WormydroidDont let mine ingrow
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07:45.55ImpyDroidhi
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10:20.39ImpyDroidGhelae Liquid_Ink: I just thought of somrthing
10:20.55GhelaeOh?
10:21.08Liquid_InkTell us of this somrthing.
10:21.26ImpyDroidThat somrthing is this:
10:22.17ImpyDroidSince the Fantasy Universe is, well, fantasy, why are we using modern-day flags for the nations and not coats of arms or something?
10:22.36ImpyDroidWe could draw some old-fashioned medieval heraldry
10:23.10Liquid_InkI've been trying
10:23.19Liquid_InkBut I'm not overly good at it.
10:23.42Liquid_Inkhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1a/VermiteMatriarchy.png/revision/latest?cb=20140325203943
10:25.35GhelaeSo the answers to your question are presumably a) difficulity and possibly b) lack of awareness of how important coats of arms used to be.
10:25.43GhelaeIt's certainly something that could be done.
10:25.44ImpyDroidThat's a bit too neon for medieval heraldry but it kinda fits
10:25.58Liquid_Ink[20:23] <Liquid_Ink> But I'm not overly good at it.
10:26.32ImpyDroidhur
10:31.42ImpyDroidNow I wonder what kind of heraldic animals and symbols would elves have
10:32.00Liquid_InkPointy ears
10:33.23GhelaeThis raises the question of whether there would be heraldric creatures in the fantasyverse that don't actually exist on Koldenwelt.
10:33.26ImpyDroidthe whole coat of arms is just a huge triangle
10:34.45Liquid_InkThat is a serious problem
10:35.03ImpyDroidConsidering that many fantastic beasts were just exotic animals reinterpreted by people who did not see them
10:35.26ImpyDroidMaybe these could be just normal Koldenwelti creatures drawn weirdly
10:37.59GhelaePerhaps fantasyverse creatures that are based on real-world mythology can get reinterpreted into those real-world forms. So for example, Theriocephali are imagined to be sewn-together half-beast half-deiwos rather than the more seamless combination they really are.
10:38.31GhelaeAnd Phoenixes become glowy burning eagle-like birds rather than humanoid avians.
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11:10.16ImpyDroidHi
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11:43.24ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: I thought of making actual medieval-esque coats of arms for Fantasyverse empires
11:43.49ImpyDroidSince flags as symbols only became prominent during the Age of Sail
11:44.33OluapPlayerRight
11:45.53ImpyDroidhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Lesser_CoA_of_the_empire_of_Russia.svg/800px-Lesser_CoA_of_the_empire_of_Russia.svg.png That kind of thing
11:46.01ImpyDroidNot as fancy but something like this
11:46.13OluapPlayerIf you want, go ahead
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12:37.52AdmiralPandahi all
12:38.30OluapPlayerHi
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13:07.46HachimanBIG TITTY GHOST BITCHES
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14:00.31GhelaeHello.
14:01.20HachimanHi
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15:01.21JepardiHi
15:02.34GhelaeHello.
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16:51.30XhoTHE FALLOUT 4 HYPE TRAIN IS HERE
16:51.44XhoThough I am apprehensive as to whether it will work
16:52.11OluapPlayerspu
16:52.22Xhou
16:57.59XhoNothing downloads - > Steam update
16:58.01XhoCUNTING STEAM
16:58.05XhoI WANT FALLOUT 4 NOW
16:59.14XhoI'm additionally enraged that Team Fortress 2 is the top in the queue for updates
17:00.55OluapPlayerYou know you can just pause everything else right
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17:01.47XhoSteam doesn't appear to like that on my computer
17:01.59HachimanI wonder if I can eat an entire mince pie in one gi
17:02.01Hachimango even
17:02.03HachimanHai Xho
17:02.04XhoOh god I have to wait another 20 minutes for this game
17:02.05XhoHi
17:02.33XhoWhy do I have to unpack this game
17:03.19Hachimanhttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12195926_1645480509033761_4062189521990422528_n.png?oh=ed07c60c741f3b95c7ff9e76593803f2&oe=56C0D0C7 He's an alpha male
17:03.55Xhohttp://reactionimage.org/img/gallery/1886670033.jpg
17:04.19Hachimanhttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12227722_1709116169323549_5952326545125372509_n.jpg?oh=f00e0b4c443f9a0d6db02b00c9cb55b1&oe=56F8B90D
17:04.45XhoCrazy disk usage at m
17:04.47Hachiman"He's not even beta, this guy is a gamma"
17:04.50XhoSurprised my computer isn't dead
17:05.13HachimanXho: http://41.media.tumblr.com/64da6492362820de90c567fe79ac0d68/tumblr_nxkwqy7gC41s5wvjuo1_1280.png
17:05.30XhoOrgasmo
17:06.25OluapPlayerThat is real btw
17:06.40XhoJesus Christ
17:07.05Hachiman"Can't wait for I'm A Celebrity, nothing says it's Christmas more than someone eating kangaroo bollocks"
17:07.31OluapPlayerI'm more amused by the fact they had to make voice lines for every one of these
17:07.38OluapPlayerbethesdapriorities.jpg
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17:09.24HachimanHai Imp
17:09.27HachimanHYSTERIA NOW PLS
17:12.03Xho38 mb/s disk usage
17:12.08Xhoget fukd im fallout 4'in
17:12.27XhoYou can use my characters if you want
17:14.14Hachimannon
17:15.58Xhothen take ur broke ass home nigga
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17:20.03Wormy_Hihi
17:20.05GhelaeHello.
17:20.39Wormy_Stupid captcha asks for steet signs while there are none
17:22.09GhelaeI've started writing the story that introduces the Girdo Empire to the SporeWikiverse, as a prelude to their participation in the War of Ages rewrite.
17:23.17GhelaeFirst of all, I should let you know that this will have to include a modified version of our original Girdo-DCP first contact.
17:24.23Wormy_I was about to ask about that
17:24.50Wormy_It nearly ended with the DCP firing on the Girdo for violating their space, I recall
17:24.59GhelaeSecondly - and this isn't just directed to Wormy - I'm wondering whether this should be a subpage of the War of Ages or left on its own. I've so far typed it out as the latter, but then most of the actual War story would be on a page where it fits in with the rest of the conflict.
17:25.41GhelaeYes. In fact, it nearly *started* with the DCP firing on the Girdo for violating their space (which would also have ended it very quickly).
17:26.32Wormy_I'd assume in detail, go for the latter.  In the olden days it might have gone straight on the War of Ages page.  But some important details could be added as a paragraph for the Girdo's participation.
17:27.10Charles_BotFrench diplomacy at work: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Nomatari_Sovereignty
17:28.05HachimanOh wait shit I forgot, we cannot do Hysteria until next Monday
17:28.14HachimanOluap's got a major homework ass to do
17:29.27OluapPlayerYes, yes he does
17:29.30Wormy_Hopefully I can get some GXS stuff done this week
17:29.38OluapPlayerPlus Imp said he's unavailable for fiction until the weekend
17:29.56Wormy_And on top of that, start re-writing Manifold Bees
17:30.29Charles_BotThat'd be cool! What'd you think of my attempt to woo the NS back over?
17:30.42Wormy_On unfortunately I'm starting to not feel very well.
17:35.01Wormy_My browser is not loading SporeWiki right now.
17:37.06GhelaeCharles_Bot: Flattery. Promises of great rewards if the NS does what France wants. Comments that things are likely to go badly if it doesn't. I think France has got all the major bases of persuasion covered.
17:37.34Wormy_test
17:37.43Charles_Bot;)
17:38.30Charles_BotGetting the NS to do what it wants without lifting a finger
17:38.44Charles_Bot(Hopefully)
18:02.49Hachimanhttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12096352_1702495696639349_4049282026714264452_n.jpg?oh=f4d482713ab75ab2f83ad4177dd9b477&oe=56BA722C
18:07.54Technobliteratorreminds me, I should write that Cianju Alliance prologue now...
18:11.01Technobliteratoror, before the end of the day
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18:15.56dromXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga_nIY_KqnQ
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18:17.31Technobliteratorhm
18:17.59TechnobliteratorXho, you mind if I rewrite the Cianju Alliance page and move the original to a /Original? you can change stuff if you want
18:18.10Technobliteratorand Val can if he comes back this summer again
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18:25.02TechnobliteratorPfft
18:25.03Technobliteratorwho does
18:25.37Wormy_These privileged student activists seem to, but may not realise it
18:25.45dromXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeaW1hBJBXM
18:28.01Wormy_I mean, I'm not against what they believe in.  Nobody should be intimidated or discriminated against; and tuition fees especially in America are high, you can't blame them wanting to be consumers who get the best out of their parent's money
18:28.41Wormy_But this ideology has descended into something that scares me
18:29.10TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, http://kotaku.com/metal-gear-solid-v-patch-allows-players-to-recruit-an-o-1741707623?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow !!!
18:29.23Technobliteratoryeah I know it's Kotaku but still
18:29.24Technobliterator!!!!
18:29.27Wormy_I think I'm too individualist to understand it
18:29.28OluapPlayerI'm aware
18:29.36TechnobliteratorThis pleases me
18:29.43TechnobliteratorI can now play the game again
18:29.45Technobliteratorwoooo
18:29.56OluapPlayerThat made you stop playing?
18:30.00Wormy_Not to say I am right wing - certainly not, but I can certainly say I'm not a far leftie either
18:30.23TechnobliteratorWell, not quite
18:30.38TechnobliteratorI completed the Truth Ending, but not having Quiet meant I didn't want to 100% the game
18:30.52Technobliteratorbecause she's my most powerful Buddy
18:31.57TechnobliteratorWormy_, I don't personally like identifying anywhere on the spectrum. You get morons everywhere
18:32.18Wormy_That's true
18:33.15Wormy_<PROTECTED>
18:33.22Wormy_Its funny
18:33.52Wormy_I can't find what camp where I truly belong
18:34.36Wormy_But I do favour an Open Society, a concept created to unite the differing types of democracy, like liberalism, conservatism and social democracy together
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18:36.22Hachiman"If you can't wake up from the nightmare, maybe you're not asleep."
18:36.42HachimanFuck the Conservatives
18:36.45Wormy_<PROTECTED>
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18:39.41Wormy_*unregulated
18:40.10Wormy_Sorry I'm ranting about boring politics
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18:43.22ImperiosWhat do you mean Margaret Thatcher had her own coat of arms
18:43.27Imperioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Coat_of_Arms_of_Margaret_Thatcher%2C_The_Baroness_Thatcher_%281995%E2%80%932013%29.svg/1024px-Coat_of_Arms_of_Margaret_Thatcher%2C_The_Baroness_Thatcher_%281995%E2%80%932013%29.svg.png That looks fanc
18:43.28Imperiosfancy
18:44.22HachimanAs much as I admire Thatcher's confidence, I do not value her actual policies
18:45.34ImperiosShe'd fit in our country right in
18:45.36ImperiosYours, though
18:47.59HachimanYou know, I await the day that the UK ends up with a Muslim PM and the country goes wild
18:48.37ImperiosWell
18:48.47ImperiosWe had our minority rulers and I wouldn't say they were incompetent
18:48.54ImperiosPsychotic, yes
18:49.02ImperiosIncompetent, no
18:49.13ImperiosSo not sure how that'd be different
18:49.21ImperiosYou had a Jew for a PM anyway
18:49.36HachimanWe did?
18:49.36ImperiosAnd that was pretty much your apex of power
18:49.39ImperiosYes
18:49.54Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli Oy vey, blimey
18:49.58Technobliteratorluckily Captain:The Valader isn't that bad
18:50.09TechnobliteratorI think it could do with more info, but I can't be bothered to do that
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18:50.17TechnobliteratorXho can do it :c
18:50.30HachimanHuh
18:50.35HachimanI never knew of Benjamin Disraeli
18:50.45ImperiosI thought he was a prominent Victorian politician
18:51.10HachimanThey do not teach us much about the British Empire and such in history at secondary schools
18:51.52ImperiosReally?
18:51.54ImperiosI am surprised
18:52.03ImperiosWhat do they teach you about then?
18:52.05HachimanThey only really teach us about slavery as far as I can remember
18:52.43ImperiosWell so do our teachers
18:52.47HachimanAnd the effects and customs of the slave trade, maybe some innovators of the Industrial Revolution
18:53.05ImperiosBut we are also kinda taught how we conquered half of the world along the way
18:53.09HachimanAlso some prominent Victorian celebrities that I cannot entirely remember
18:54.06HachimanSo yeah, I was never that clued up about the British Empire in school
18:54.38HachimanI have a feeling that the education system wants to keep children and teenagers stupid
18:54.41ImperiosWe have two school years dedicated to the 20th century and the USSR alone
18:55.00ImperiosAnd, I think, three school years dedicated to the Russian Empire
18:55.01HachimanAnd reserve actual intellectual education to students in private schools
18:56.32ImperiosHm
18:56.37Wormy_awayHachi is right
18:56.42ImperiosJust curious
18:56.43HachimanSo students from rich families that can afford private education get access to actual education beyond the public curriculum while public students are kept stupid
18:56.58HachimanWhich ensures the class system is not compromised
18:57.10ImperiosHuh, same thing here
18:57.12ImperiosWell, sort of
18:57.27ImperiosHere it is more equal
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18:57.34ImperiosBecause everyone recieves the equally shitty education
18:57.38TechnobliteratorI'm going need Cyrannian for something
18:57.48Wormy_awayOxford and Cambridge universties were the *only two* excused from the new extremists policy (whatever its called), because their students were deemed clever enough to be able to study controvertial ideas
18:57.55ImperiosAs a person who studied both in private and public schools, I can say that here the only difference is how the teachers treat you
18:57.58Wormy_awayPREVENT, I think
18:58.03ImperiosThe quality of education everywhere is equally low
18:58.34ImperiosHm, just curious
18:58.47ImperiosHow much time is dedicated in your history classes to English and British history in particular?
18:58.51ImperiosCompared to world history
18:59.23HachimanFrom a public education standpoint, it's iffy
18:59.29Wormy_awayA student in one university was actually arrested and inspected because he was reading a book about terrorism *in the university library*, he was studying anti-terrorism and thought he was being tested by a peer.
19:00.08HachimanWe learn a lot about foreign history and culture yet not much stuff about important figures in our own history besides pre-Victorian monarchs
19:00.27HachimanWe learn about the people going through WW2 rather than the people actually involved in it on the British side
19:00.37Wormy_awayImperios:  I was taught alot about the Roman occupation of Britain, a little about the Saxon and Viking age, and then the Tudor age.  I learned only little about WW1 & 2
19:01.32ImperiosHuh
19:01.50Wormy_awayDidn't learn anything about the history of other nations
19:01.58ImperiosAfter the first history class which touches everything up to the fall of the Roman Empire
19:02.14ImperiosHere history pretty much splits into half
19:02.20ImperiosWorld history and Russian history
19:02.27Wormy_awayMy school rarely taught science either.  Mostly English and maths, a bit of IT.
19:02.28HachimanOh yeah, the Romans and the Tudors are a prominent thing in our history
19:02.29ImperiosSo we spend half of the year studying what happened in the world
19:02.44ImperiosAnd then the other half studying what Russia did during that time
19:02.58ImperiosWhich is mostly conquering everyone else
19:03.00Wormy_awayThat sounds like an interesting model
19:03.51Wormy_awayThe thing is, Brits are only secretly proud of the Empire (and they are...  The Falklands War rallied millions into somekind of almost religious ferver for power expression)
19:04.14Wormy_awayBut on the outside, feel bad about it
19:04.49Wormy_awayPoliticians have learned that they can stir that when they want, but its a powerful "tonic" which they can't control and comes back to bite them
19:04.49ImperiosI do not really understand why you do that
19:04.54HachimanA lot of us feel the same way about the British Empire as Germans do about the Nazis
19:05.27ImperiosYou did not slaughter anyone, you just did what everyone else did at the time
19:05.31Wormy_awayHistory doesn't show that, especially the 80s
19:05.34ImperiosYou just happened to be best at that
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19:06.02Wormy_awayThatcher and co really stirred patriotism, but they regretted it
19:06.19HachimanHi Ghel
19:06.35ImperiosThat's actually interesting because Russians do not feel guilt at all]
19:06.41Wormy_awayImperios, Hachi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/f9930cdb-0617-3d4f-993c-f7da873bfe04
19:06.43Wormy_awaygood read
19:06.45ImperiosIf anything, we glorify our past
19:07.21ImperiosEven Stalin is not something Russians are guilty of
19:07.28HachimanWe figured as much hur
19:07.42HachimanOur stereotypes about Russians are largely correct then
19:07.51ImperiosMaybe because a lot of his repressions affected the normal people, so Russians were in actuality as much victims of his regime as were everyone else
19:08.13Wormy_awayThat documentary I linked, exp[lains that whenever British politicians have tried to bring back the ghosts of our past, they summon powers they cannot control
19:08.22ImperiosThat's literally how every discussion about the famines in Ukraine ends
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19:08.32Imperios"Fuck you Russians you starved us"
19:08.37Imperios"No it's okay, we starved too"
19:08.41ImperiosHi
19:08.54HachimanHai
19:09.13ImperiosHachiman: Then agian it's a complex thing
19:09.38ImperiosThe intellectuals are more ashamed of the past, though I do not think they actually feel guilt
19:10.29Wormy_awayI think British pride is sporadic, but exists - not that I think its a good thing.  But it certainly isn't dead by any means
19:10.50Wormy_awayYou can view it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0MBNZhtV9E
19:11.03Wormy_awayThat was because it made Brits feel powerful for 5 minutes
19:11.39HachimanKind of like an orgasm
19:11.42Wormy_awayMind you we did project more power then than now, probably
19:12.07ImperiosI am not sure if Argentine counts as a worthy enemy
19:12.21Wormy_awaya 5 minute orgasm would be superhuman, at least for a man
19:12.39ImperiosIt's a national orgasm
19:12.41ImperiosTherefore it is longer
19:13.33Wormy_awayThey actually rose up the Tudor Rose shipwreck on the same day
19:14.27Wormy_awayAnyway, I say 5 minutes because the markets crashed not long after
19:14.48Wormy_awayAnd it hurt Thatcher's image, and possibly conflicted with her beliefs
19:19.16Wormy_awayWell, it actually re-elected her first, the market crash happened a bit later
19:24.13dromWormy_away Xho Charles_Bot Jepardi: http://i.imgur.com/MVQl7gD.png?1
19:25.40Wormy_awaydrom:  Lol, kinda true
19:26.07Wormy_awaySo, are Finns a bit on the rough side?
19:26.25Wormy_awayI get that impression from Countryball and SATW
19:27.32Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Ages/Prologue#Disturbances_in_the_Mind !!!!
19:27.51OluapPlayerits poopy
19:28.20Technobliteratorya mom is
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19:28.47Wormy_awaydrom http://satwcomic.com/sand-in-weird-places
19:29.06dromWormy_away: It is actually true
19:29.28Wormy_away"This was supposed to be about how it's legal to masturbate in public in Sweden as long as you're not masturbating TO anyone"
19:29.43Wormy_awayLearn a new thing everyday
19:30.05Wormy_awayMy mother said whole families were stripping naked in the countryside when she stayed there
19:30.14dromI heard of that story
19:30.29Hachiman>illegal to masturbate TO anyone
19:30.33HachimanDoes this include stuff like porn or
19:30.41Wormy_awayThen you asked what part that was, and when I told you, you wasn't surprised
19:31.00dromHachiman: Not really, actually a present person
19:31.37dromWormy_away: Of course not, lol
19:31.42dromWormy_away: http://satwcomic.com/art/society-will-crumble.png
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19:48.19Hachiman"Two things: 1. Where have you been all my life? 2. Can you please go back there?"
19:48.39OluapPlayerme 2 u
19:52.40GhelaeStarted this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Getting_out_of_Girdo
19:53.57GhelaeThe later sections should not include science.
19:54.04GhelaeMuch.
19:55.48Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:206952#2 Solving the allahu akbar issue
19:56.16Wormy_awayI'm still concerned
19:57.20Wormy_awayI mean at the risk of being part of the people I criticised earlier - a non-ISIS flag might still cause offense if people think it is misrepresented *as* one
19:57.53Wormy_awayBecause my internet is so bad I can't see if you said that on the thread
19:58.28Wormy_awayRight the page has now loaded
19:58.37Wormy_awaychecks if this point has been brought up
19:58.41ImperiosIt's not even about ISIS
19:59.10ImperiosI am not a fan of fiction being THAT similar to RL stuff
19:59.41ImperiosIf it was a Novorossiya expy with a aint Andrew's flag as its symbol
19:59.50ImperiosI'd be somewhat concerned too
19:59.51Imperios*Saint
20:00.08Wormy_away> Made it from scratch, okay my concern doesn't need raising
20:00.23Wormy_awayNor am I, Imperios
20:00.37Wormy_awayI want to enjoy the fiction universe as a form of escapism
20:00.43Wormy_awayfor a start
20:00.55ImperiosGranted early Radeon stuff was heavily Islamic-influenced as well
20:01.05ImperiosI actually intended to use it as a plot point
20:01.19Wormy_awayAnd the DCP is somewhat influenced from the British Empire and Soviet Union
20:01.22OluapPlayerTelfah Ackbar
20:01.34Wormy_awayProbably more the latter
20:01.45ImperiosThe idea was that because of extremists and radicals associated with their religion Radeons would be discriminated against and treated with mistrust in the galactic community
20:02.00ImperiosAnd that Telfar would try to portray them as a peaceful people to kinda overcome that sterotype
20:02.24Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
20:03.16ImperiosTelfar would kindly recieve them, notice the similarities, offer them tea and a place for prayer
20:03.37ImperiosIovera would act gallantly while looking arrogantly at them at the same time
20:03.48ImperiosTadjamad would be grumbling all the while
20:03.58ImperiosMa'fest would literally explode
20:04.26Charles_MurrayNew void hunter: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Void_hunter#Schism-era_void_hunters
20:04.38Wormy_awayI can imagine
20:04.47OluapPlayerMa'fest - in the end i kinda did
20:04.59GhelaeHow the humans react might depend on whether they'd encountered other alien religions already. Christians might be so used to so many species with no concept of Jesus that they'd be pleased just to find monotheists.
20:04.59ImperiosIt's a shame I never used Radeon discrimination as a plot point back then because now with the snooty Chinese-Byzantine holy rats, it really does not work anymore
20:05.12Wormy_awayThere was probably some conversions and cultural influences on both sides
20:05.33ImperiosThe AGC is literally the alliance of snooty sophisticated people
20:05.52OluapPlayerNow it works the opposite way, Spinkers discriminate Radeons 24/7
20:06.15ImperiosActually in stories set in the post the discrimination issue can work well
20:06.17Imperios*past
20:06.22ImperiosIf we ever remake the War of Ages
20:06.25ImperiosI'll use it
20:06.35Wormy_awayCharles_Murray:  I really like the models
20:06.36OluapPlayerLike it's happening right now
20:06.43ImperiosWait already
20:06.58ImperiosDidn't you make like a few sections and then stopped
20:07.07GhelaeTwo prologue stories for it have been posted on here in the past 40 minutes.
20:07.07OluapPlayerIt started over
20:07.21OluapPlayerpay attention to the world around u
20:08.26ImperiosGood
20:08.32ImperiosI'll get to work in due course
20:08.38ImperiosWhich is to say in a few years
20:08.40OluapPlayerWork on Klaxxa hsssssss
20:08.47Wormy_awayI'm now reading today's fiction updates
20:09.16Charles_MurrayWormy : Danke!
20:09.27ImperiosI honestly do not know what to do with them
20:09.36ImperiosThey are too silly and out of place to use
20:09.41OluapPlayerFull dum
20:10.22OluapPlayerIf you can make an empire of allah ackbar rats, you can make an empire of british dragons
20:10.43Wormy_My, Ghel really loves this image http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/ce/Intergalactic_Premier.png/revision/latest?cb=20100618133700
20:10.51ImperiosI actually got inspired by Dune when first writing about Radeons
20:10.57Wormy_It is elegant though
20:11.09Ghelaelooks at the file page
20:11.29ImperiosThe main character in the novel gets stranded on a desert planet, unites the locals and starts a jihad
20:11.37ImperiosHis nickname literally meant "mouse"
20:11.41GhelaeOh, I've only used it on three pages. Four if you include the gallery.
20:11.59GhelaeWhich probably makes it my most-used picture.
20:12.55Wormy_"Secondly, how did hyperspace appear here if it doesn't exist elsewhere? If it's natural, why is our part of the universe special? If it's artificial, how was it made? You can't just magic new degrees of freedom from nowhere."
20:13.10Wormy_I love that, sets the theme of mystery for SporeWiki's hyperspace
20:13.28Charles_MurrayMy most-used image is probably the French flag. xD
20:13.36ImperiosI guess I could try to make a place for them
20:13.49ImperiosBut I do not have that many ideas for them
20:13.54ImperiosBTW
20:14.06ImperiosSpeaking of allahu akbar, a Muslim girl friended me on VK
20:14.11ImperiosNow I wonder who the hell she is
20:14.11OluapPlayerYou had something cool going on the last time you worked on them
20:14.14OluapPlayerI don't see the issue
20:15.16ImperiosTrue
20:16.17OluapPlayerSteam machines, alchemy, zeppelins, those true dragon hybrids
20:16.24OluapPlayerYou got a lot of unique things you can work on
20:17.19Wormy_Xho:  "Zhuleshxi approached the panel, and planting his peculiar-shaped hand on it, a reddened light surged through the ship, illuminating the control room and the rest of the monstrous vessel in a sinister glow. "
20:17.25Wormy_You know what image comes to mind?
20:17.58Wormy_That picture of a Mayan in a spaceship
20:17.59OluapPlayerXho is on Fallout 4
20:18.03OluapPlayerAsk again in a week
20:18.12Wormy_hur
20:19.18Imperioshttp://cs622330.vk.me/v622330162/49643/mcrGbK6MBxo.jpg Okay does not look like an ISIS recruiter
20:19.23ImperiosUnless they are THAT sneaky
20:19.31ImperiosProbably just a local Tatar girl
20:19.48OluapPlayerey handsome wanna allah my ackbar
20:19.51Charles_Murray(Hunt: they are)
20:19.53Charles_MurrayHint*
20:20.11Charles_MurrayI'm not kidding, the recruiters are very unlikely. xD She probably isn't, though.
20:20.31Imperios"We will infiltrate the ranks of hipsters and conquer the unbelievers from behind! VINTAGE CALIPHATE!"
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20:22.11Wormy__I should add my own section to the War of Ages prologue
20:22.33Wormy__There is the important mission the DCP and early SSA did, to reach Tigris
20:22.56Wormy__Where they met the Rambo, and shortly after entered the war with a show of force
20:23.28Wormy__However, I never detailed why the DCP gave such support to the Rambo, and on such little intelligence about what was going on
20:23.45OluapPlayerI can't think of a reason for my fiction to participate
20:24.34dromI'd read the new WoA prologues, but I am busy writing a response to France and with an essay about Christanity at the moment.
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20:24.57OluapPlayerThey have no reason to go to Tigris
20:25.00Wormy__I will need to figure out an explanation, and that means I need to see what dino writes for the Rambo, and I probably need to lengthen the distance of time between the two events.
20:25.14DrodoEmpireHey everyone
20:25.22GhelaeHello.
20:26.01dromImperios: While I'm overdue the Chirsitanity essay, I'm having Islam in our religion class this month.
20:26.06OluapPlayerI don't even know why Tigris is important
20:26.19dromHey DrodoEmpire
20:26.21GhelaeThe DCP needs to be at war for when Girdo contacts them, but I don't need you to have written that for me to add the first contact to Getting out of Girdo.
20:26.35ImperiosI'm sure your essay will blow your teachers' mind
20:26.40Imperiosminds even
20:26.48dromImperios: lmao no
20:27.07Wormy__"The Valader - Master Kroc! You do not need to feel honour, remember, it is you who is the supreme leader of the Alliance, not me! You are slow to adapt to your new role. I am but your inferior now."
20:27.12dromImperios: It is a comparsion between three local groups of Christians
20:27.22Wormy__I like this because Kroc is the more important character imo
20:27.24GhelaeWhat I do need is to figure out why the Girdo-vanishing system returns the galaxy to the universe mid-war.
20:27.54dromThe Salvation Army vs the local Assyrian-Othrodox minority vs the local baptist pastors
20:28.34dromI'm not putting lot of dedication in this essay because Religion is boring as fuk
20:29.06Wormy__Maybe the Girdo-vanishing system somehow predicted it would fail during the annihilation so it opted for giving the residents an escape hatch?
20:29.31GhelaeThat would mean that my next chapter title is more than just cheap alliteration.
20:31.47Imperiosdrom: The lesbian bishop versus the bi pastor versus the pedo pope
20:32.11GhelaeI've also thought: maybe Girdo vanishes while the Congregation is plotting how it's going to scourge the Gigaquadrant. A few months later, Zhuleshxi has committed its forces to a Girdo-deficient plan and the galaxy can return... for a while.
20:32.16Imperiosdrom: http://i.imgur.com/8jL6f1Z.png
20:32.19dromImperios: still doesn't give me motivation that religion is a fun class
20:34.10dromImperios: seen, but still glorious hur
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20:35.09CyrannianHi
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20:41.50Wormy__>Needs Australia http://i.imgur.com/8jL6f1Z.png
20:45.41DrodoEmpireolol
20:56.10HachimanWhen I first read "Black Standard", I thought it was something to do with #BlackLivesMatter
20:56.28HachimanPersonally, my stance on the movement is #NoLivesMatter
20:56.43drom#DeathsMatter
20:57.48OluapPlayer#BlackMatterLives
20:58.22Hachimanolol
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20:58.56Wormy__damn nhilistists
20:59.13HachimanNothing wrong with a bit of nihilism
21:00.30Wormy__The universe may be ultimately meaningless, but it is wonderous.
21:01.04Wormy__and we are living embodiments of it than can understand and use its laws
21:01.13Wormy__I find that utyerly uplifting
21:01.46Wormy__And as for our finite lives:  doesn't matter, it seems we are spacetime creatures, living in infinite moments
21:02.51HachimanImpyDroid: You know, for a while, I have wanted to invest into a faction of mermaids for the Fantasyverse - perhaps a race of villainous ones for the Western Continent perhaps - yet I always feel it would be difficult to have mermaids since interaction with the rest of the Fantasyverse would be rather restricted
21:03.06HachimanWhat with the whole thing of mermaids being incapable of dwelling on land and such
21:03.15ImpyDroidthat is why nagas
21:03.31OluapPlayery not qt sea waifu mermaids
21:03.45Technobliteratoranyone play TLoU?
21:03.46TechnobliteratorI'm stuck
21:03.47HachimanBecause sea waifu mermaids are still restricted hur
21:04.03OluapPlayerCan't be anymore restricted than evil mermaids
21:04.09HachimanPlus mermaids were like originally evil creatures
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21:05.18ImpyDroidIn Russian folklore mermaids are undead monsters
21:05.30ImpyDroidThey also have saggy breasts
21:05.30Wormy__Kelpies are far more terrifying
21:05.41ImpyDroidAnd rotting backs
21:05.42HachimanIn Greek folklore, sirens are evil things
21:05.55HachimanBeautiful but selfish and malign
21:06.07Wormy__Either appear as beatiful horses or women.  Who you cannot become unstuck with and drag you too your watery grave
21:06.08GhelaeCould always make mermaids and say they can survive on land.
21:06.20OluapPlayerThat's getting a dog and calling it a cat
21:06.21HachimanBut then it wouldn't be a mermaid hur
21:06.39GhelaeI thought what makes a mermaid is the human body with fish tail.
21:06.58HachimanDisregarding the differences in breathing, they would still be roughly immobile
21:07.05HachimanDue to the fish tail
21:07.38GhelaeSimplest solution is a tail that transforms into legs when on land.
21:07.45OluapPlayerA land-moving person with an animal tail is a lamia, not a mermaid
21:07.53OluapPlayerAnimal tail for legs, that is
21:08.00HachimanOr a naga, which can do both I suppose
21:08.08GhelaeA twist on that would be race who think they're perfectly normal deiwes until one of them goes for a swim and discovers they have a fish tail.
21:08.32GhelaeBut lamia/naga have snake tails and not fish tails, don't they?
21:08.43ImpyDroidThat is not a twist
21:08.54ImpyDroidThat is an Australian TV show
21:09.02GhelaeI never said it was an original twist.
21:09.02HachimanI thought most lamias had lion legs
21:09.07HachimanOr is that just Pathfinder lamias
21:09.09CyrannianWhat is a being with a fish head and a human body?
21:09.17OluapPlayerA monstrosity
21:09.18HachimanCyrannian: Horrifying
21:09.28ImpyDroidFishman
21:09.31OluapPlayerAs far as I'm aware, naga = snake with a human head
21:09.40OluapPlayerNot body, just a head
21:09.46ImpyDroidNagas can take many forms
21:09.50GhelaeFish head on a humanoid body is a bit like most piscine Theriocephali.
21:09.56ImpyDroidWhich includes a lamias
21:10.22ImpyDroidAzshara <3333
21:10.31OluapPlayerI always thought nagas being mermaid-like was a Warcraft thing only
21:10.40OluapPlayerSince they're a setting which gets dogs and call them cats
21:11.28ImpyDroidCyrannian: About the Aquilanii, would it make sense for then to have originally been a Basileus protectorate and/or ally?
21:12.03GhelaeWe did discuss fantasyverse heraldry earlier and the idea that, like on Earth, some heraldric creatures wouldn't be real in-universe but would be based on misinterpretations of creatures reported from faraway lands.
21:12.04Hachiman>orcs are green, militant, barbaric, tribal, violent      >humans are feudal, white, sophisticated, militant
21:12.10HachimanI don't see how WoW calls dogs cats
21:12.18ImpyDroidWyverns
21:12.27CyrannianImpyDroid: That would depend on how powerful the Aquilanii are compared to the Basileus, but it's up to you
21:12.32ImpyDroidThat are basically manticores in Warcraft
21:12.59OluapPlayerWarcraft wyverns are lion-headed birds
21:13.00GhelaeSo perhaps mermaids exist on coats of arms, because somebody once described some piscine theriocephali as being like "half-fish, half-deiwos" and somebody got the wrong idea.
21:13.14OluapPlayerAnd wendigos are some sort of generic gorilla-like people
21:13.51HachimanWendigos have antlers so they look more like actual folkore wendigos to me
21:14.13HachimanTall, animalistic, antlers, carnivorous
21:14.28HachimanLive in wintery snow places
21:14.45OluapPlayerFolklore wendigos are former men who were transformed due to being corrupted by cannibalistic urges
21:15.00ImpyDroidCyrannian: I kinda envisioned them as an imperialistic trader-slash-pirate faction - a bit like the Mataii but more malicious - so I imagine they were originally a powerful trading power but not strong militarily aside from naval warfare
21:15.05ImpyDroidSomething like that
21:15.05OluapPlayerIt has no gorillas involved
21:15.27ImpyDroidLike space Portugal or Venice
21:15.58CyrannianImpyDroid: So perhaps it was a mutually beneficial relationship in which the Aquilanii provided trade and commerce while the Basileus provided the bulk of the military?
21:16.06ImpyDroidYeah perhaps
21:18.32ImpyDroidAquilanii - https://youtu.be/3F0Xx-oQKsU
21:18.39HachimanSo it looks to me that unless we have fiction centric to water and underwater, we cannot use conventional mermaids very often
21:19.19OluapPlayerI have an entire faction of water nymphs that I'm yet to use, didn't stop me from making them
21:19.38HachimanYeah but your water nymphs have legs
21:20.31OluapPlayerThey also can't stay long periods out of the water or they may die of dehydration
21:20.42HachimanThe only solution I can think of for having mermaids influence terrestrial environments is having vassals act for them on land
21:21.31HachimanSince I am not so fond of them being able to change their tails into legs since that would make the point of them being aquatic redundant
21:21.35GhelaeIt doesn't have to be underwater; mermaids can still interact with ships and on shorelines (although more readily as an environmental hazard for the former). That is a problem due to Koldenwelt being mostly a single supercontinent, but the Sunset Isles might provide good waters for them.
21:22.16GhelaeBut that does depend on what other fictions are made there.
21:22.55GhelaeCurrently we have an island of dinosaurs, an empire of dragons and some trader bird-people.
21:23.02ImpyDroidI have an idea but this idea comes from MLP
21:23.09ImpyDroidSo take it with a grain of rainbow salt
21:23.30ImpyDroidWhat if mermaids take sailors and mind control them to use as their agents on land
21:23.44ImpyDroidMermaid Illuminati yes
21:23.55HachimanSo kinda like sirens
21:24.09ImpyDroidYes
21:24.18ImpyDroidMore siren-like
21:24.22ImpyDroidWE WILL BE ADORED
21:25.07ImpyDroidAlso Hachi
21:25.22ImpyDroidDidn't you want to make dragon Mongols on the Western continent?
21:26.05HachimanI did but Xho already came up with dragon people
21:26.19ImpyDroidThat is actually funny because the Mongolian girl I knew was really into dragons
21:28.38Cyrannianhttps://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=746141782186577
21:29.24ImpyDroidSpeaking of MLPs
21:29.30ImpyDroidWe should have kelpies
21:30.35GhelaeWormy did make http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Hidden_people and included Kelpies.
21:31.36GhelaeIn the traditional sense. I don't know if MLP has kelpies and how much they differ.
21:32.24GhelaeEither way that page is so old and unused I'd say it's practically non-canon.
21:33.00HachimanWormy did allow me to make use of Eireland, whatever it is
21:33.19dromCyrannian: I don't get it
21:33.36HachimanI decided that Eireland would be a mainland Aos'maran territory consisting of former-Mannazian lands which were taken from them
21:33.44HachimanWhich then later seceded from Aos'mara
21:33.48CyrannianThe guy was using the lyrics of Adele's new song to confuse an old guy
21:34.20dromOh.
21:34.32dromI've more questions
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21:35.05ImpyDroidGhelae: MLP does not have kelpies
21:35.11ImpyDroidIt has sirens
21:35.23GhelaeRight.
21:35.28ImpyDroidBut it is MLP so they are basically kelpies in terms of appearance
21:36.06HachimanI was thinking that the mermaids of the Sunset Isles could have a raider / marauder culture about them
21:36.29ImpyDroidWhy only mermaids though
21:36.33HachimanBut then, I also planned to have dragon Mongols for the Silver Steppe though so
21:36.59ImpyDroidMermongols
21:37.06OluapPlayerMongol dragons neighbouring the Kushala Daora dragons
21:37.12HachimanBut then Xho already made a large dragon faction so
21:37.25ImpyDroidYou can have your dragons attacking his dragons
21:37.31ImpyDroidAnd breaking their dragon walls
21:37.48GhelaeCan't have more than one culture of dragon people in the west. Next thing you know we'll have multiple races of elf in the east.
21:37.51ImpyDroidAnd making them pay dragon tribute
21:38.08ImpyDroidThen the Klaxxa will attack them both and begin selling them dragon opium
21:38.23HachimanGood luck getting the Klaxxa to the West hur
21:38.24OluapPlayerLekren - DATS SUM GUD SHIT TALLY-HO
21:38.44ImpyDroidZeppelinz
21:38.47OluapPlayerYou talk like it's difficult for a race who was 1) wings        2) zeppelins
21:39.00HachimanYeah but distance and mountains
21:39.07OluapPlayerZeppelins
21:39.17OluapPlayerYou go over the mountains
21:39.19OluapPlayeru dum dum
21:39.35HachimanZeppelins are not aeroplanes hur
21:39.37MonetImpyDroid: Klaxxa airships blockading harmours to get them to buy drago nopium.
21:39.41MonetWhen they stop buying drago nopium
21:39.52OluapPlayerZeppelins can fly
21:39.57OluapPlayerFly over the mountains
21:40.02HachimanYeah; they can fly only so high
21:40.03ImpyDroidI was referring to how Brits conquered China hur
21:40.14OluapPlayerIf that fails, they have wings
21:40.15GhelaeThere are also non-mountainous routes. Like the sea.
21:40.17OluapPlayerThey can still fly over the mountains
21:40.31HachimanYou could make the argument that the Klaxxa could fly over the Great Eastern Wall
21:40.34MonetI feel like the only one who got the context of Impy's joke.
21:40.40OluapPlayerAnd they theoretically can
21:40.48OluapPlayerSo does every other dragon race capable of flight
21:40.55DrodoEmpireMonet: Opium wars
21:40.57ImpyDroidBrits dorced a trade agreement through fleets
21:41.01OluapPlayerOr anything that can fly even
21:41.14MonetEveryone else went into nitpicking the plausability of the joke
21:41.14ImpyDroidAnd then kinda made the Chinese buy tons of British opium
21:41.15HachimanIt seems you miss the fact that mountains have different air pressures like how the seas have different depth pressures
21:41.18GhelaeMonet: Yeah, I got it. People just got distracted by the practicality.
21:41.31ImpyDroidPretty easy to conquer someone if they're high
21:41.31OluapPlayerLike that's going to stop me
21:41.35OluapPlayerFLY OVER THE FUCKING MOUNTAINS
21:41.45GhelaeAnd everyone's ignoring the fact that the British didn't get to China by flying over Tibet.
21:41.49ImpyDroidYou can fly AROUND them
21:41.57OluapPlayerflying over is cooler tho
21:42.04HachimanFlying over is more difficult though
21:42.09OluapPlayercooler tho
21:42.18ImpyDroidDoes not matter if you sell your opium
21:42.23GhelaeWhy not tunnel through the mountains with gigantic steam-powered drills?
21:42.25HachimanAirplanes can do it because they have metal shells thus largely protected from air pressure
21:42.34OluapPlayerfuk ur realism
21:42.51HachimanZeppelins cannot realistically fly as high as - or over - mountains due to air pressure
21:42.59OluapPlayerfuk ur realism²
21:43.39ImpyDroidAll that to sell drugs
21:43.56MonetBut this is the fantasyverse
21:44.06ImpyDroidWell
21:44.09OluapPlayerKlaxxa - we have our priorities straight mon
21:44.20ImpyDroidKlaxxa zeppelins are not magical
21:44.24MonetWe have giant winged lizards that weigh several tonnes flying kilometres into the air.
21:44.34HachimanDragons are magical
21:44.40ImpyDroidBut yeah would be easier to sell drugs to someone closer
21:44.41HachimanZeppelins are not
21:44.41dromWormy__ Cyrannian Monet Ghelae: http://imgur.com/gallery/AOzis
21:45.09OluapPlayerDrilling there is probably less safe because they'd probably be swarmed by lungsharks the moment they arrive
21:45.31OluapPlayerAt least we don't have such a thing as flying sharks yet
21:45.32MonetWell if we're talking blockading ports...boats?
21:45.57HachimanKlaxxa are on the opposite side of the damned planet to the Western Continent and have no access to sea
21:46.12OluapPlayerWhy are you sperging so much over this, you realize I'm joking right
21:46.24Hachiman>sperging
21:46.33OluapPlayerYes, sperging
21:46.37MonetHachiman: Outposts.
21:46.41OluapPlayer"HUR THEY CAN'T GET THERE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE"
21:46.43HachimanI do not feel as if I am sperging
21:46.44OluapPlayerThat's how you're sounding
21:46.54ImpyDroidYou just triggered Hachiman
21:46.56HachimanBut it is largely impossible
21:47.11MonetEven with rivers?
21:47.21HachimanMonet: Opposite sides of the planet
21:47.21DrodoEmpireYou could use outposts and rivers... :p
21:47.22OluapPlayerThey're not demented, they can cross the water via ships or fly around the mountains
21:47.32ImpyDroidRussians crossed Siberia on rivers
21:47.38dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/tBDjfZ8.png
21:47.39ImpyDroidSo it could be done
21:48.00DrodoEmpireThe British of the 19th century were not only able to get to China but fight several *wars* in it
21:48.03Hachimanhur
21:48.11DrodoEmpireand that was on the opposite side of the planet.
21:48.18DrodoEmpireOver land no less
21:48.44DrodoEmpire(Though of course they got there via ship, but had to go around entire continents
21:49.46MonetAnd the Klaxxa do have similarities to the British Empire.
21:49.49MonetDrodo's right.
21:50.13HachimanIt's not a matter of "going around" though
21:50.23HachimanThe Great Eastern Wall prevents them from travelling east
21:50.38MonetBefore the Suez  and Panama canals you had three options: Under the tip of africa, under the tip of Argentina or through Northern Canada.
21:51.00dromCyrannian: http://imgur.com/gallery/Fd2oN
21:51.13HachimanGranted, Koldenwelt's airspace is probably more accessible to the Klaxxa than anyone else
21:51.24ImpyDroidWait wouldn't you get to Russia and not China that way
21:51.32ImpyDroidThrough Canada that is
21:51.39HachimanOther than dragons that is
21:51.50OluapPlayerThey can turn south at Alaska
21:51.57HachimanOluap's right, I'm probably sperging far too much about this
21:52.19OluapPlayerIt's not a matter of "they can do it RIGHT NOW", I'm just saying it is possible
21:52.25ImpyDroidNow I wonder if Klaxxa should actually sell opium to everyone
21:52.27OluapPlayerJust like it's possible for any race capable of manning a ship
21:53.12OluapPlayerOrdnung - SAY NO TO DRUGS, GAS THE BRITS
21:53.29MonetYou brought up the Eastern Wall...isn't that the perimeter between Koldenwelt and whatever's to the East?
21:53.45HachimanYes
21:53.47MonetIf it is, well there's a sea t othe north.
21:53.56GhelaeThe sea is full of sharks.
21:53.59dromHachiman Monet DrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/ItvJEPw.webm
21:54.02MonetYou can access the Western continent using that.
21:54.03GhelaeAnd the air above the sea is full of flying sharks.
21:54.07OluapPlayerNot just sharks, but also octopus sharks
21:54.13DrodoEmpiredrom: hur
21:54.59GhelaeThere's also a sea to the south. With flying octopus sharks too.
21:55.11OluapPlayerWe're going all-in now
21:55.14GhelaeAbove the Great Eastern Wall? More flying sharks.
21:55.25OluapPlayerFlying lungsharks, because there's no water there
21:55.33GhelaeNaturally.
21:55.36HachimanThey could travel above the sharkosphere
21:55.49GhelaeWherever there is air, there are sharks.
21:56.00OluapPlayerKoldenwelt is shark-shaped, the Great Eastern Wall is the tip of the tail fin
21:56.31HachimanIsiris is actually a shark
21:57.02OluapPlayerIf that's the case then the Eye needs to be replaced by a set of shark jaws
21:57.12OluapPlayerIt bites Caligaduro whenever he tries to escape his prison
21:57.33ImpyDroidCaligaduro is a dolphin
21:57.41ImpyDroidOr a whale
21:57.44HachimanNo because I like dolphins
21:57.52OluapPlayerCaligaduro - rape cave time
21:58.03HachimanAccusing dolphins of rape is effectively kinkshaming
21:58.10dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/jIHCv2T.png
21:58.29OluapPlayerDolphins are horrid perverts who should be hunted down
21:58.37Hachiman>should be hunted down
21:58.40ImpyDroidOr wait no
21:58.45ImpyDroidCaligaduro is a whale
21:58.56ImpyDroidCrux is a dolphon
21:58.57HachimanBut they are the next most intelligent animal other than humans and octopuses
21:59.02ImpyDroidVargash is an octopus
21:59.11ImpyDroidDo not forget monkeys and elephants
21:59.14ImpyDroidAnd MUSHROOMS
21:59.23OluapPlayerDoesn't stop them from sticking their dicks in dead fishes, like you showed me once
21:59.28Hachimankek
21:59.32OluapPlayer>mushrooms
21:59.34OluapPlayerExplain
21:59.44HachimanI think he means the cordyceps
21:59.46dromImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/YTNKax8.webm
22:01.22OluapPlayerHow are these intelligent?
22:01.29OluapPlayerr u tryin to trick me
22:01.33MonetThere's question of which is mre intelligent: Humans or dolpphins. But the thing is...some humans will suff an Action Man up their butts.
22:01.45Monetstuff*
22:01.55ImpyDroidWait no mushrooms
22:02.01ImpyDroidMolds
22:02.07ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brainless-slime-molds/
22:02.51ImpyDroidFucking sentient fungi
22:02.56OluapPlayerAnd dolphins stick their dicks in fish carcasses
22:03.02ImpyDroidAlso
22:03.03OluapPlayerConclusion: intelligence leads to weird kinks
22:03.06ImpyDroidDo not forget mice
22:03.10ImpyDroidAnd ratd
22:03.19ImpyDroidRats and mice are smart too
22:03.37XhoThe hell did I just come back to
22:03.59OluapPlayerCaligaduro is a whale now
22:04.01HachimanI wouldn't call anything that has to scrounge through human shit to eat "smart"
22:04.14MonetSOme *humans* will stick their dicksin carcasses.
22:04.30OluapPlayerYou talk like that's the only way they can get food
22:04.52HachimanPenguins and cucks are also known for being necrophiliacs, not just dolphins
22:04.56HachimanDucks even
22:05.04DrodoEmpirelul
22:05.11XhoFUCK YOU WHAAALE
22:05.13MonetGreat typo
22:05.17ImpyDroidHachiman: And yet they are
22:05.23ImpyDroidRodent master race
22:05.57OluapPlayerYeah but ducks are like the worst example of evolution on Earth
22:06.01OluapPlayerPenguins are a new one though
22:06.10ImpyDroidPenguins have cool mouths
22:06.18OluapPlayer*fucking horrifying
22:06.21OluapPlayerftfy
22:06.35HachimanPenguins will fuck dead penguins - even those that died and were preserved by the snow and temperature the year before
22:06.54OluapPlayerOf course you'd know about penguin necrophilia
22:07.21dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/4G2rGSE.webm
22:07.44Hachimanhur
22:08.09OluapPlayerWe went from dragon druglords to penguin necrophilia
22:08.10OluapPlayerWhat a night
22:08.18MonetIt seems intelligence is not a guarentee that something will consider something else unfuckable.
22:08.50dromImpyDroid Hachiman Wormy__ Ghelae: http://i.imgur.com/VKbEZt1.webm
22:09.16HachimanJesus that Carbon
22:09.28GhelaeI'm sure we were shown that in A-Level Chemistry.
22:09.33HachimanAlso Hydrogen is kinda hot
22:09.42HachimanBy guy standards
22:09.47OluapPlayeru r the ghey
22:09.53ImpyDroidhttp://lh4.ggpht.com/-T0UXY2AsBwA/T9nJn6nX-fI/AAAAAAAANbA/HQp5fGIW9Cg/New%252520Picture%252520%252528109%252529_thumb%25255B3%25255D.png?imgmax=800 These fish have best mouths  though
22:10.04HachimanNO THAT'S FUCKING AWFUL
22:10.24OluapPlayerThat's extremely uncomfortable
22:10.40MonetTooth fairy - Why the hell am I restricting myself to humans?
22:10.43OluapPlayerThey look like human molars and human molars on any animal = FUCK
22:10.55ImpyDroidThey eat nuts
22:11.12ImpyDroidHah it is 1 AM here and I need to wake up at 8 AM tomorrow
22:11.15ImpyDroidFuck sleep
22:11.24MonetUmm
22:11.25MonetCows have molars.
22:11.41OluapPlayerIt's only scary when they're human-like
22:12.01GhelaeMammals do as a general rule. Also, if you want to be pedantic, humans are animals too.
22:12.07HachimanImpyDroid: I survive on 5+ hours of sleep, you will live
22:12.19OluapPlayerOne easy way to get to the uncanny valley is to give human teeth to a non-human creature
22:12.31Monethttps://mshammas.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/cows_teeth.jpg
22:12.51OluapPlayer[Colgate]
22:12.51HachimanFalse hur
22:12.59Hachiman*Cowgate
22:13.04OluapPlayerfug
22:13.09Xhomoo
22:13.16Xhomoothpaste
22:13.25HachimanOh wow
22:13.28OluapPlayerspu
22:13.35OluapPlayerHow's Fallout 4?
22:13.48Hachimaninb4 0/10 it's shit
22:14.22XhoHaven't played it enough to gather good enough judgement
22:14.29MonetPC Gamer gave it 82%
22:14.31HachimanIt's shit then
22:14.43OluapPlayerYou're shit shup]
22:14.43HachimanIf it doesn't make a good first impression then it isn't a good game
22:14.44Xho4 hours isn't enough by the looks of it since the content is just crazy
22:15.01XhoFirst hour was definitely fun
22:15.21MonetHachiman: Y u so high standards tonight?
22:15.38XhoThough early game is terrifying
22:15.38Hachiman>high standards
22:15.44XhoI dunno if I can spoil though
22:15.50HachimanAren't you an upper-classman
22:16.10OluapPlayerI don't know whether anyone else here is playing
22:16.20OluapPlayerSo I don't think anyone cares
22:16.34XhoOk well first mission goes like this
22:16.37XhoYou get a suit of power armour -> Deathclaw ruins aforementioned suit 10 minutes later
22:16.45OluapPlayerolol
22:17.07OluapPlayerFunny because I was gonna jokingly say "did u get deathclaw'd yet" but I figured you'd not come across these for a while
22:17.17XhoChrist I was only level 3
22:17.31MonetWell one thing I've heard is its still got that good old Bethesda buggyness.
22:17.33XhoI had a minigun so I was somewhat well prepped
22:17.39ImpyDroidHachiman: And you are always angry
22:17.42XhoI've come across one bug
22:17.48XhoOr two actually
22:17.59HachimanI'M NOT ALWAYS ANGRY
22:18.02XhoThe first one is that I randomly got spun to the floor and killed by something when I entered an area
22:18.07HachimanI DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GET THAT FROM
22:18.08XhoThat hasn't happened since
22:18.45XhoThe second one is that sometimes using doors to get to other locations doesn't work so you have to save the game, reload it and it fixes
22:18.48XhoOther than that not many
22:18.50MonetWalks along -> randomly bugs out and gets killed.
22:19.02OluapPlayerJust another day at a Bethesda game
22:19.38XhoThe best way to describe Fallout 4 is if they mashed Skyrim, Fallout 3 and any Mass Effect of your choice together
22:19.39ImpyDroidI was referring to your lack of sleep
22:19.46HachimanoH
22:19.48ImpyDroidNo sleep -> always angry
22:19.59HachimanThat's true
22:20.09OluapPlayerSKYRIM WITH GUNS
22:20.19HachimanExcept less stuff to do lol
22:20.27XhoIt's more brutal than Fallout 3
22:20.30XhoHarder
22:20.40XhoThey've brought in a Legendary tier of enemies
22:20.50XhoI've come across a Legendary Super Mutant at a low level
22:21.03XhoAnd a couple of Yao Guai but they seem to be quite slow this time round
22:21.15OluapPlayerYao Guai
22:21.16OluapPlayerwat dat
22:21.20HachimanMutant bears
22:21.27OluapPlayerbeer
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22:21.36Hachimanhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/2/2e/Yao_guai.png/revision/latest?cb=20150404174408
22:21.38Yugohi!
22:21.38HachimanThese things
22:21.41HachimanHi
22:21.50XhoWow that'a s nice first image to look at on the IRC
22:21.52OluapPlayerWell that's not a good sight
22:21.55Yugois a dragon
22:22.00XhoOh no
22:22.03HachimanNo you're not
22:22.06Yugooh yes
22:22.10Yugoi am
22:22.22Wormy__Hachi:  When I first met a pack of those, I shat bricks
22:22.25HachimanDon't think so bud
22:22.27XhoFallout 4's graphics are smoother so everything appears kinda less scary than Fallout 3
22:22.34Yugoturns into an Eliatrope
22:22.37HachimanI do not like that everything looks less scary
22:22.38XhoExcept for the Deathclaws
22:22.47Wormy__Plus they killed me despite using a minigun and flamethrower
22:22.59MonetSome one mention dragons?
22:23.07Yugome
22:23.09Hachimanfuk off an go suk dergon dik elsewhere
22:23.12OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvUvnTF0wE have this
22:23.21Wormy__Fallout4 is baed before 3, no?  Maybe it is less of a wasteland
22:23.36MonetHachiman: Mooore pissed thn you're average bear!
22:24.30Yugouses her portals to transport Hachiman into outer space
22:24.39MonetI know the name came from what a bunch of Chinese soldiers called the mbut I see Yao Guai and think "Yogi"
22:24.43HachimanDon't be a fag
22:24.52OluapPlayerDon't be rude
22:24.54HachimanMonet: I think that's the joke hur
22:25.32DrodoEmpireOh hi Yugo
22:25.43DrodoEmpirePardon my not welcoming you until now. >.<
22:25.49Yugoactually monet my name comes from this french tv show i like
22:25.55Yugoits ok
22:26.34XhoFallout 4 is 10 years after 3
22:26.36MonetDid not know
22:26.39Yugothe show is called Wakfu
22:26.55XhoOr 6 years after New Vegas
22:27.05Xho2287 basically
22:27.10MonetName sounds familiar but I don't know it, sorry
22:27.17DrodoEmpiresame
22:27.30DrodoEmpireDon't know it, *definitely* heard about it
22:27.34Yugohow about this?
22:27.45XhoBest new feature is just the Brotherhood of Steel's power armour
22:27.57XhoIf anyone's played Titanfall it's a bit like that
22:28.28MonetI'm guessing the Boston Chapter aren't happy
22:28.46Qilby?
22:28.52XhoHaven't played enough to know but there doesn't seem to be much of the Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 4
22:29.11MonetWell...
22:29.17DrodoEmpireQilby: Fallout 4 stuff
22:29.23DrodoEmpireI don't know too much either. XD
22:29.33XhoPower armour seems to be like a frame, and then you can apply different pieces of armour to the frame
22:29.38Qilbywhats fallout?
22:29.39MonetThe Capitol chapter became separated from the group and the East Coast Brotherhood are in decline.
22:29.52DrodoEmpireQilby: game serie
22:29.54DrodoEmpire*series
22:30.02DrodoEmpireSurprised you have not heard of it. XD
22:31.01Qilbyi play things like sly cooper
22:31.54DrodoEmpireRight
22:32.02Qilbyfun game
22:32.14dromHachiman: PC gamer gave Undertale a rating lesser than 85% *wink* *wink*
22:32.48HachimanPC Gamer didn't get paid enough for their review
22:33.01DrodoEmpireayy
22:33.29QilbySly Cooper and the theivius raccoonus is for the ps2
22:33.37DrodoEmpireright
22:33.41DrodoEmpireHeard about it before
22:34.07dromOh damn
22:34.08Qilbyever played it?
22:34.08dromSly Cooper
22:34.15dromI fucking loved it
22:34.23DrodoEmpirelol
22:34.47XhoThe power armour in Fallout 4 is like the Space Marine armour
22:34.55XhoI have absolutely no clue how they manage to reach their gloves
22:35.01Qilbyi beat ralighs area for the master thief sprints
22:35.27MonetXho: Space Marines are big dudes outside their armour.
22:35.32XhoOh
22:35.40XhoOkay I just don't know then
22:35.54dromMonet: Big shoulders too?
22:36.07dromAnd small ingrown head
22:36.20QilbyLIKE A BOSS!!!
22:36.47dromNo like this guy
22:36.48dromhttp://media.moddb.com/images/downloads/1/21/20567/tank.jpg
22:36.49Monethttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138773/3609075-1127626826-Phili.jpg
22:37.20Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/4/47/T-60b_Power_Armor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150617150027
22:37.39MonetThe Brotherhood of Steel though, well the gloves could be entirely mechanical, with the user's hand stopping somewhere in the forearm.
22:37.51HachimanSeems more proportional than Astartes Power-Armour
22:38.02DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0bXq9QO-k - Hyped for this game
22:38.47MonetYeah bu the looks if it, the hands and feet would be all machine, with some sort of control mechanism withi nthe mimbs.
22:38.57Monetlimbs*
22:39.51Monet>T-60b
22:40.11DrodoEmpireI *love* the musket sounds in the game thusfar
22:40.17MonetLsat I checked the Brotherhood used T-52 armour.
22:40.21DrodoEmpireVolleys sound awesome.
22:40.44XhoDunno what power armours are in this game
22:41.08XhoT-45, T-51, T-60 and X-01 apparently
22:42.01MonetNo wait I think T-45 was standard Brotherhood armour
22:42.17XhoThe X-01 is Enclave I think
22:42.17MonetT-51 was a prototype developed shortly before the bombs fell.
22:42.43Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/5e/X-01_Mk.II_Power_Armor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150616215806 Certainly looks Enclave-ish
22:44.40MonetYeah that's Enclave.
22:45.08MonetThat armour was popular among Enclave troops in Fallout I and II.
22:46.34Yugokills monet on accident while target practicing with her portal laser
22:46.51XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12074880_10154301882864027_6708135984171705834_n.jpg?oh=f446df729dd32419ce54e8fdc1022b74&oe=56F43C76 Lil Jon Snow
22:47.03HachimanOh wow
22:47.16HachimanI remember one cosplay which was like Jon Snow White
22:47.24DrodoEmpireolol
22:47.31HachimanAs in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
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