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09:59.58ImperiosHi
10:00.29GhelaeHello.
10:52.44ImperiosLiquid_Ink: So I found a YouTube channel that makes "traditional family values-based reviews" of various games and cartoons
10:53.11Liquid_InkOh dear
10:53.57ImperiosThey claim that, among other things, Frozen makes little girls lesbian
10:54.25ImperiosTrolls, not being sexually dimorphic, represent same-sex unions and Hans is apparently a demonisation of "traditional marriage"
10:55.43Liquid_Ink*tut tut tut*
10:56.33ImperiosOh and they also said that Mass Effect corrupts children
10:56.41ImperiosCHILDREN
10:56.45ImperiosMASS EFFECT
10:57.46ImperiosWhich did not stop them from using music lifted from Mass Effect in a montage glorifying the Soviet Union and Stalin
10:58.26Liquid_InkDerp
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11:09.34The_MEOW_KingHello everybody
11:11.23GhelaeHello.
11:12.24The_MEOW_KingI finally started writting the page for my creature
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12:03.04dromLiquid_Ink: I know that you don't play TF2, but it doesn't hinder me from finding this panel of the newest comic funny http://media.steampowered.com/apps/tf2/gargoyles_and_gravel/images/comic/1024x768/023.jpg
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12:10.52JepardiHi
12:11.01GhelaeHello.
12:11.39dromLiquid_Ink: Earlier the same comic, four of the crew is playing D&D http://media.steampowered.com/apps/tf2/gargoyles_and_gravel/images/comic/1024x768/006.jpg http://media.steampowered.com/apps/tf2/gargoyles_and_gravel/images/comic/1024x768/010.jpg
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12:19.25MonetHi
12:20.05GhelaeHello.
12:21.51dromLiquid_Ink: by the way, interesting progress on your fiction!
12:22.03dromHai
12:22.04Liquid_InkOh, thank you.
12:22.09Liquid_InkAny particular part you like?
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12:26.21dromHard to pick, but the Sts and the region one are quite interesting
12:26.53Liquid_InkThe downside is that my work there is distracting from working on my current ficitons :P
12:29.58dromThe downside for me is that the fictionverse is distracting from my life :|
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13:10.08Wormy_hi
13:10.40OluapPlayerHi
13:11.54GhelaeHello.
13:13.25GhelaeWormy_: So it seems intergalactic colonisation is actually fairly easy even for a small Type II society: http://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/intergalactic-spreading.pdf
13:16.01GhelaeAlso, apparently somebody decided to make a comic about a pair of satellites in an abandoned dyson swarm: http://dord.horse/
13:22.13Wormy_reads both
13:23.30Wormy_How heart the warming (the second)
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13:23.54MonetHi
13:24.14MonetHave I missed anything?
13:25.10GhelaeHello.
13:25.43GhelaeAll you've missed is me posting a couple of links.
13:26.48Ghelae...I suppose I should repost them in case you want to know what they were.
13:26.56GhelaeFirstly, it seems intergalactic colonisation is actually fairly easy even for a small Type II society: http://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/intergalactic-spreading.pdf Secondly, somebody decided to make a comic about a pair of satellites in an abandoned dyson swarm: http://dord.horse/
13:28.39Wormy_I've always imagined it was easy for a Type II, given the idea of self-replicating machines as a less expensive example, or building entire stellar engines to move stars as longer-term project
13:28.57Wormy_We see no evidence for either, of course
13:29.21Wormy_Unless you are willing to accept UFOs as these machines (I don't really)
13:29.49Wormy_Anyway, I'll read on
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13:32.45Wormy_Ghelae:  Though I have wondered, if self-replicating machines were on the nanoscale, would we even recognise the technology?
13:33.06GhelaeI don't think it would be obvious.
13:33.24GhelaeBut we'd certainly be able to tell it was something self-replicating if we got it under a microscope.
13:33.44Wormy_"]. Extragalactic SETI has not been studied much [9] (with the exception of [10]), perhaps due to a bias towards radio communications and against the Kardashev Type III civilizations that would be the only observable intelligences at this scale. "
13:33.53Wormy_Looks like they are onto a similar question
13:39.14GhelaeWay down on page 22, they conclude that a single dyson sphere would be able to produce a billion 30g replicators and launch them to at least 762 million galaxies within the nearest 2.33 gigaparsecs.
13:39.21GhelaeOh, and this would take them six hours.
13:39.25The_MEOW_Kingooooj
13:39.27The_MEOW_KingInteresting
13:40.14GhelaeI'll give you the link as well if you want to read: http://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/intergalactic-spreading.pdf
13:41.47Wormy_It's a very interesting paper looking at a wide range of possibilities
13:42.00The_MEOW_KingI'll read it if I get the time
13:42.08The_MEOW_King(And the motivation)
13:46.13Wormy_The paper weakens the "we are alone" argument.  But even if we are, it is more feasible we could expand across the universe, and possibly taking on the role of continuing intelligence in the universe.  Perhaps in a sense it would be more like space opera in the end, because human colonies would eventually diversity into various post-species by nature or by modification
13:46.30Wormy_*diversify
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13:48.25GhelaeIt weakens the "we are alone" argument in the sense that it requires us to be extremely alone, while previously one could suggest that, for example, maybe there's just one technological species per million galaxies to make the Fermi paradox work, now it has to be reduced to about one per billion.
13:48.38GhelaeHello.
13:49.52dino82_hello!
13:51.32Ghelae388 million galaxies, actually, is the maximum number of galaxies from which any species setting out at 0.99c five billion years ago could have reached us.
13:53.38GhelaeAnd even at 0.5c one billion years ago would have allowed any aliens from the nearest 263,000 galaxies to reach us.
13:59.05Wormy_So they must be rare, unless their mode of expansion is still undetectable
13:59.15Wormy_(I've not read the whole paper yet)
14:00.47Wormy_By that I mean, truly alien life which may not choose to colonise the entire universe, or who's infrared signature is quite small
14:01.18GhelaeThat would still require every single civilisation who does such a thing to be undetectible, and that brings us back to the uniformity-of-motive problem.
14:02.03GhelaeSo as usual, the two main explanations are that technological civilisations are extremely rare, or that some ancient supercivilisation is exerting its control over all species within millions of nearby galaxies.
14:03.38GhelaeThe other options are the less likely ones: uniformity-of-motive, inevitable technological disaster before the ability to make interstellar probes is reached, or a technological ceiling that we don't know about.
14:04.15GhelaeWhat the paper does, really, is make all of the options even more extreme - and the unlikely options even more unlikely - than before.
14:05.04Wormy_I suppose that's right, a civilisation like us only needs to rise up once
14:07.39Wormy_There might still be others, if there is a  single super-civilisation
14:08.02Wormy_They would obviously be fleeing at relativistic velocities no-one could catch up with
14:08.15Wormy_Or would be hiding in some-way
14:09.51GhelaeYes.
14:10.45Wormy_I suppose there might be a sort of evolutionary competition in the stars that leads to only the most competitive civilisations (eventually one) prospering.  So hiders/truly alien life may not survive long, though in they existed before the supercivilisation, they might have superior hiding abilities (or have left at high velocities)
14:12.20GhelaeThere's probably a limit as to how trigger-happy the supercivilisation needs to be before it decides to kill other aliens as a threat.
14:12.40GhelaeOr assimilate them etc.
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14:14.59GhelaeSo hider civilisations may be left alone as long as they stay hiding.
14:15.01GhelaeHello.
14:15.10OluapPlayerHi
14:18.34Wormy_Let's hope so
14:19.00dino82_hello! :D
14:19.08The_MEOW_KingHello :D
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14:26.14Wormy_I don't find the "They are all online" hypothesis very convincing, partly because of the requirement of uniformity, and also because even a civilisation that bases itself on virtual reality will need to expand their energy harvesting technologies
14:27.17Wormy_Even if they build the most efficient and compact processors, there will come eventual limits and that civilisation will need to expand for resources and energy
14:32.08Wormy_Ghelae:  5 Unexplained Sea Monsters Caught on Tape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFXclm8KSz4
14:32.40GhelaeIf this is just things like the Bloop I'm going to be disappointed. :P
14:32.49Wormy_Most of these I haven't heard of
14:32.52Wormy_Not this time
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14:34.45GhelaeHello.
14:34.51Wormy_I think the Tsunami creature is an illusion
14:35.05Wormy_if genuine
14:35.32GhelaeThe first one I've read about recently. My first impression was refraction severely distorting the image of a dolphin or some other creature, but that would have to be really severe.
14:35.50GhelaeThere are bound to be other suggestions on the internet, but for now I'm going to suggest a baby sea serpent. :P
14:36.19GhelaeThe second I remember reading that it's thought to be a hoax. A load of netting or whatever dumped on the seabed to look like a creature.
14:38.05GhelaeThe third one - the tsunami creature - the video for that is so low-quality I don't know what to make of it.
14:38.40Wormy_The whole footage of the Tsunami creature https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C25RTDXFNWY
14:43.26GhelaeYeah, there's nothing you can really make of that.
14:43.34GhelaeCould be anything.
14:44.14Wormy_Some people have suggested it might be steam from an electrical line coming undone, or water being forced up something hollow as a series of coincidences
14:44.41Wormy_It looks too ephemeral to be a creature, and why would it leap out the water like that?
14:46.48Wormy_Anyway, I watched the following Alltimeconspiracies video and learned of a new convincing explanation for Nessy
14:48.08Wormy_The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wels_catfish can live for 90 years and grows quite large over many years.  The Victorians, who loved exotic pets, might have put a few in the loch, and they might have grown to large sizes by the 1930s
14:48.37Wormy_The low foodstock might have kept their population small
14:49.46GhelaeCould explain a few sightings, I suppose.
14:51.33Wormy_You don't need much to start a legend
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14:52.00GhelA catfish could explain some of the sightings, sure.
14:52.51Wormy_[14:51] <Wormy_> You don't need much to start a legend
14:52.54OluapPlayerNessie was a kitten after all
14:53.05GhelA quick looks suggests the two most popular explanations for the Corfu monster are a) a very dull-coloured cuttlefish, with the apparent snout being the tentacles being bunched together, and b) something artificial, either a piece of metal or rubber detritus + pareidolia, or a toy held underwater as a hoax.
14:53.10Wormy_Yeah I wouldn't want to pet a catfish
14:54.08Wormy_Unfortunately, it is a bad picture evidence-wise, for there is no scale
14:54.14Wormy_A toy is quite possible
14:54.51GhelBeing taken off the side of a boat touring one of Corfu's caves, it can't be very big.
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14:55.33GhelAlso suspicious is that the picture was immediately sent to a tabloid newspaper rather than marine biologists.
15:01.19Wormy_The Iceland river monster may not be fake, but its can't be concluded that it is not inanimate object subject to the unusual flow of water you get with ice.
15:02.46Wormy_it can't be a cold-blooded reptile, either
15:03.29GhelIt could be a dead cold-blooded reptile. Then it would be also be an inanimate object subject to the flow of water.
15:03.48GhelWhere it would come from would then be a mystery, though.
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15:13.00dino82_Tertius Bellum has begun: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Battle_of_Ramalivua
15:14.22Wormy_dino:  I like that blurred effect on the picture with  Ramjon  and Ramashe
15:16.37dino82_@Wormy: Thanks :D Done that with Paint Net and then added some movement blur before putting the image in the Ramashe room image
15:17.11dino82_Though I did not manage to get it glow more
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15:45.20The_MEOW_Kingdino, how did you do the scene where the renforcement arrive at the planet?
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16:24.38HellrockHello
16:24.54Monethi
16:29.58OpelSpeedsterDelayed hi
17:00.57TekDroid~test
17:01.03infobotit has been said that test is not funny
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17:24.29HachimanHai
17:24.37GhelHello.
17:25.50Monethi
17:26.26Wormy_Hyperfrog https://twitter.com/SteampunkStone/status/660172623763009536
17:29.13Wormy_OluapPlayer http://www.edispost.com/porcupine-tastes-his-first-pumpkin/
17:30.35OluapPlayerThat's the friendliest porcupine I've ever seen
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17:48.26Wormy_Cockatoo finding out he is going to the vet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw
17:50.13Wormy_dog stoned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5VMrCBOL8
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18:04.46Wormy_What type of cat is that?  http://imgur.com/gallery/1HxH6Ah
18:05.15dino82_lol
18:05.18Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/NUqKOGn
18:21.53OpelSpeedster"Aang is definitely there"
18:35.56The_MEOW_KingGhelae ?
18:41.08Wormy_He's away
18:42.09GhelawayIf you want to ask me something, you might as well just ask me, and that way I can anwer as soon as I see it instead of responding and then waiting for you to ask the question.
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19:20.30The_MEOW_KingGhelae , I was wondering if it was possible to have relations with the good/bad starter example (just to know)
19:20.45GhelNo; they're both non-canon.
19:21.07GhelYou could certainly write about relations with them if you want, but I don't expect anyone else would take them seriously.
19:21.20The_MEOW_KingOkay Thanks
19:21.48OpelSpeedsterThe_MEOW_King: I think you could make empires that spoof the starter examples
19:22.02OpelSpeedsterBut for the Bad Starter you would have to tone them down, so they obviously wouldn't be overpowered
19:22.08The_MEOW_KingYeah
19:22.36OpelSpeedsterMaybe you could make it so they *think* they are capable of doing those overpowered things, but in reality can't and often are destroyed because of that
19:22.43The_MEOW_KingSometimes I just look at the bad starter example and laugh because of all the "u suck" and "wat" in it
19:22.44The_MEOW_KingAnd yeah
19:22.53The_MEOW_KingThey are like "we will pwn u"
19:22.56The_MEOW_King*get pwned*
19:23.01The_MEOW_King"ha u missed loser"
19:23.10OpelSpeedsterlol
19:23.31OpelSpeedsterA couple more ideas
19:23.51OpelSpeedsterMaybe they could be just a bunch of unorganized tribes on a planet that never managed to evolve too much due to their destructive tendencies
19:24.00The_MEOW_KingLol
19:24.10OpelSpeedsterBut were visited by a civilization that had advanced technologies but didn't exactly know how to defend themselves
19:24.38The_MEOW_KingAnd the advanced cilivization got "rekt" as the tribes would say
19:24.48OpelSpeedsterAnd they used their only actually good trait - reverse-engineering, to recreate those technologies they got from said civilization
19:25.04OpelSpeedsterand then started to spread throughout the galaxy, spreading their toxic idiocy around
19:25.11The_MEOW_KingAnd thus the bad starter example was born
19:25.19OpelSpeedsterJust make sure not to make them too much like the Loron
19:25.28The_MEOW_KingLoron?
19:25.45OpelSpeedsterTo simplify: A species which is incredibly strong, but equally incredibly stupid
19:26.04OpelSpeedsterBut the Loron actually know how to fight
19:26.20Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Loron
19:26.20The_MEOW_KingKinda like rabbids?
19:26.35The_MEOW_KingOh my god their face
19:26.40GhelKnowing what the Loron are is a very important part of participation in the SporeWikiverse.
19:26.47OpelSpeedster^
19:27.08OpelSpeedsterThey may be dumb, but piss them off and you're done for
19:27.17The_MEOW_KingHEY MOOSTAKE THE HAIRY
19:27.18The_MEOW_KingDont
19:27.19The_MEOW_KingEVER
19:27.21The_MEOW_Kingcontact the Loron
19:27.23The_MEOW_Kingk?
19:27.35OpelSpeedsterWhich is probably the reason why nobody responds to their shenanigans in the universal discussion board
19:29.44The_MEOW_KingSo they're alone
19:29.50The_MEOW_KingAnd they have no friends
19:30.15GhelIf you read the first paragraph of the page you'd know the answer to that.
19:30.34The_MEOW_KingI saw it
19:31.15Ghel"They have no friends" may be mostly true, but they aren't alone.
19:31.39OpelSpeedsterGhel: I looked at the "Heroes of the Gigaquadrant" image, and there was a Loron in it. Aren't they supposed to be always evil?
19:31.47The_MEOW_KingOoooh
19:31.49OpelSpeedsterOr there are a few good Loron/it's referring to the Loron on the UNO?
19:32.21GhelPrimarily the latter, I think (I don't remember the image).
19:32.22The_MEOW_KingOhh they are part of a group of empires as I see
19:32.30Wormy_awayLoron are not evil, just unsophisticated and lacking intellectual restraint
19:32.50GhelAnd violent.
19:32.52Wormy_awayThe males, that is.
19:32.56OpelSpeedsterAh
19:32.59OpelSpeedsterYeah, I looked up the Norol
19:33.09The_MEOW_KingDid any empire ever made the mistake...
19:33.15The_MEOW_KingOf menacing the Loron?
19:33.29OpelSpeedsterA few probably did, but I don't know for sure
19:34.14GhelIt's almost always the Loron that strike first.
19:34.16OpelSpeedsterI do know that plenty of civilizations in the Loron-infested regions of Borealis tend to become prey of Da Rogue Boyz(a faction of rogue Loron), but they are not user-controlled civilizations
19:34.41OpelSpeedsterAnd yeah, it's mostly as Ghelae said
19:35.04OpelSpeedsterSo it's best to both not contact them and avoid their colonies
19:35.29GhelI don't believe any *user* has made the mistake of starting a war with the Loron.
19:35.56Wormy_awayI imagine humans without such restraint may become violent and ape-like
19:36.03GhelAlthough that's because we tend to actually plan our fictions rather than just jumping into them.
19:36.26TechnobliteratorWell, the Loron don't really need much reason to go to war with anyone
19:36.33GhelWormy: There are real-world examples of that.
19:36.38The_MEOW_KingRandom Empire : Hey Loron
19:36.41The_MEOW_KingLoron : WAR!
19:36.48The_MEOW_King*kill empire*
19:36.54The_MEOW_KingIs it pretty much like tha?
19:36.59OpelSpeedsterThe_MEOW_King: I don't think it goes like this, more like the Loron would insult the empire
19:37.01The_MEOW_Kingthat*
19:37.02OpelSpeedsterOr maybe I'm wrong too.
19:37.27The_MEOW_KingWould they still go to war?
19:37.37The_MEOW_KingOr just insult?
19:37.43Wormy_awayGhel:  It is said that even looking at a gang of angry drunks can make them set on you.
19:37.44GhelInsults, killing, pizza. That's basically the Loron's modus operandi.
19:38.02OpelSpeedsterAs Techno said, they don't really have much reason to go to war unless you really annoy them or are blocking their objectives
19:38.05The_MEOW_KingEmpire : We pointed our telescope at the loron homeworld
19:38.11The_MEOW_KingLoron : *kills empire*
19:38.12OpelSpeedsterAnd frankly, UNO happens to do both :p
19:38.17The_MEOW_KingI think i'm exagerating
19:38.26OpelSpeedsterYeah, you are
19:38.41GhelWormy_away: That could well be an example, yes.
19:38.46OpelSpeedsterAs powerful as the Loron are, they still don't have the technology to know if some stray astrologist is looking at their world
19:38.57The_MEOW_KingYeah
19:39.23OpelSpeedsterAlso, what galaxy are you in?
19:39.24GhelYou mean astronomer. Don't confuse astronomy with astrology when there are scientists around. :P
19:39.28The_MEOW_KingWould the bad starter empire and the loron be friends?
19:39.32OpelSpeedsterGhel: derp
19:39.51OpelSpeedsterI'd think the Loron would accuse the Bad Starter of being knock-offs of them
19:40.21The_MEOW_KingI imagined their conversation
19:40.24The_MEOW_KingBSE : u suck
19:40.27The_MEOW_KingLoron : No u suck
19:40.29The_MEOW_KingBSE : u
19:40.32The_MEOW_KingLoron : U SUCK
19:40.36The_MEOW_KingBSF : NO U SUCK
19:41.04The_MEOW_King*they both go into a war and anhiliated everything*
19:41.07The_MEOW_KingTHE END
19:43.00TechnobliteratorUh
19:43.06TechnobliteratorThe BSE are not even canon
19:43.11The_MEOW_KingI know
19:43.23OpelSpeedsterTechnobliterator: He is making a civilization that parodies the BSE
19:43.40TechnobliteratorThat's...pointless
19:43.41The_MEOW_Kingwait what
19:43.46The_MEOW_King<PROTECTED>
19:44.03The_MEOW_KingI never said that*
19:44.35The_MEOW_KingYou suggested it but I never confirmed it
19:44.48OpelSpeedsterOh
19:44.50OpelSpeedsterSorry about that
19:45.06The_MEOW_KingI'm not wasting my time doing a poopy civilization :P
19:46.57The_MEOW_KingBy the way, when did the most recent new user joined (exept me)
19:47.39Wormy_awayhttp://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=newusers&user=&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1
19:47.46The_MEOW_KingThanks
19:47.47Wormy_awaysee for yourself
19:47.58Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
19:48.13Wormy_awayI don't even know how to call that in my mind
19:48.21GhelOr if you look at http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges, you'd see the most recent user joined less than 10 minutes ago.
19:48.35The_MEOW_King瓦特蒸汽机="Watt steam engine" according to google traduction
19:48.46Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:A_Loron_History_of_SporeWiki anyone want me to cover any topics?
19:49.05Wormy_awayYeah, most in the user creation log don't stay
19:49.22The_MEOW_KingI looked at the loron history ONE SECOND
19:49.25The_MEOW_KingAnd I laughed
19:49.28The_MEOW_Kinglaughted*
19:49.54OpelSpeedsterTechnobliterator: How about the Great Xonexian Schism?
19:50.00OpelSpeedsterOr are you focusing solely on Borealis events?
19:50.07Wormy_away"smakin dese wannabes known as da Zazane. cocky lil twits dey is"
19:50.11HachimanEvents Loron were involved in
19:50.12TechnobliteratorI can't cover that because it's not finished yet
19:50.19The_MEOW_KingI love this "Loron History of Sporewiki"
19:50.24The_MEOW_KingIt's just so funny
19:50.29TechnobliteratorIt doesn't have to be limited to events they were involved in, though
19:50.48The_MEOW_KingOoooh
19:50.51The_MEOW_KingSo we can suggest anything?
19:51.18TechnobliteratorYes, as long as a) if it's an event, it's finished and b) if it's an empire, the Loron have a vague idea who they are
19:51.26TechnobliteratorI'm thinking of making a Loron History of UNO next
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19:52.03OpelSpeedsterHia, deom
19:52.05OpelSpeedsterer
19:52.06OpelSpeedsterdrom
19:52.09dromhello
19:52.20Technobliteratorhi drom
19:52.25GhelHello.
19:53.06The_MEOW_KingWait
19:53.18The_MEOW_Kingit says "we killed dem stoopid xhodie boyz"
19:53.32The_MEOW_Kingxhodie boyz=xhodoctoes?
19:53.38Technobliteratoryes
19:53.59dromI thought it meant more or less about the servants/thralls of the Xhodocto
19:54.25The_MEOW_KingI need to reformulate my last question
19:54.36The_MEOW_KingDo you know the  latest new user (excluding me) WHO STAYED
19:54.37The_MEOW_King?
19:54.45Technobliteratormeh, it's not like the Loron can tell the difference
19:54.55The_MEOW_KingLol
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19:55.21dromTechnobliterator: Everything's pizza for the Loron
19:55.25The_MEOW_KingTo da Loronz
19:55.29The_MEOW_Kingeverybody
19:55.31The_MEOW_Kingare luzers
19:55.52ImperiosHi
19:55.57GhelHello.
19:55.57The_MEOW_KingHi!
19:56.11GhelThe_MEOW_King: The new user log would suggest Morphy10 is the most recent new user to stay. But we don't really keep track of that kind of thing.
19:56.17The_MEOW_Kingokay
19:56.42The_MEOW_KingThe ops are really helpful here :D
19:56.52dromMORPH!
19:59.10Wormy_awayTechnobliterator:  Something just occurred to me.  If an outside force wanted to destabilise Loron society, would creating intellectual male Lorons work?
19:59.48Wormy_awayThere would no longer be a dependance on females, and males would be equally strong and intelligent
20:00.58Wormy_awayOr is that, a very, very bad idea.  Would the male Loron remain hyper-aggressive?
20:01.00TechnobliteratorWell, the problem is that those intelligent ones might not be too popular
20:01.08The_MEOW_KingIntelligent lorons?
20:01.11TechnobliteratorThey'd be likely to remain hyper-aggressive
20:01.32TechnobliteratorGratz'kaoz was relatively smart and friendly at the start, but early in his childhood he was bullied so much he became the most insane Loron who ever live
20:01.33Technobliteratord
20:01.54GhelSo they might still be strong and aggressive but they'll be bullied en masse.
20:02.27OpelSpeedsterUnless there are enough intellectual lorons to form a group to overthrow the dumb ones.
20:02.28Wormy_awayWell, what if they were created with sufficient numbers...  And became like Nazis
20:02.39OpelSpeedster^ Or that.
20:02.39GhelIf the idea is getting rid of females, then I suppose it's a bit like those projects to decrease mosquito populations by releasing sterile male mosquitoes into their habitats.
20:02.52GhelSo you'd need very large numbers.
20:03.28GhelAs for "became like Nazis", the Loron don't seem to have much inhibitions against things like genocide anyway.
20:04.01GhelAssuming that's what you meant. I don't actually know what you meant.
20:04.18Wormy_awayThe outside force would have to hope that the Nazi Lorons don't turn against them
20:04.45Wormy_awayWell, I was thinking of this group being used to displace and destroy the traditional male Loron
20:04.56The_MEOW_KingI know how to destroy the whole Loron empire
20:05.16The_MEOW_KingTell them "1+1=?"
20:05.20The_MEOW_KingTheir brains will blow up
20:05.29ImperiosI think there was an AU story where Lorons were smart and imperialistic
20:05.32Wormy_awayBut I can see how impractical and pointless that project would be, it would be like making an even worser Loron
20:05.34OpelSpeedsterThe_MEOW_King: They would just answer 'picca'
20:05.36OpelSpeedsterpizza*
20:05.37GhelThe_MEOW_King: No, they'll just punch you in the face.
20:05.41The_MEOW_KingYeah
20:05.43OpelSpeedsterOr that
20:05.47The_MEOW_King1+1=...
20:05.49The_MEOW_Kinghmmmm
20:05.51The_MEOW_KingWE KILL U
20:06.01The_MEOW_King*Lorons kill you*
20:06.04GhelIf you're going to come up with such a simple suggestion like that, just provide them with a mass delivery of pizza laced with cyanide.
20:06.10The_MEOW_KingGood idea
20:06.15ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://img05.deviantart.net/c13b/i/2011/255/7/4/mass_effect_3___reapers_by_candystrike-d49mpdd.jpg
20:07.52ImperiosWouldn't they simply eventually develop a resistance to cyanide
20:08.35The_MEOW_KingIf they all eat the pizza
20:08.39The_MEOW_KingThey won't have time
20:08.42The_MEOW_KingAnd they would die
20:09.02dromDepends on their [bio]chemistry
20:09.11TechnobliteratorThe last time an "intelligent" Loron took over a Loron civilization, Zr'Ahgloth just overthrew him later
20:09.34TechnobliteratorI'm trying to think of some extra stupid UNO rules the Loron would think...
20:09.52GhelOf course, if "give everyone poisoned food" was a realistic method of bringing down empires, it would have been used many times before against others.
20:10.00The_MEOW_King"No looking at the Lorons or u die"
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20:10.48GhelHello.
20:10.52The_MEOW_KingHello Xhodocto
20:10.53dromIf they have Hydrochloric acid as gastric acid. Then I believe they won't ever be able to build resistance to cyanide
20:11.10OpelSpeedsterHi, Xho
20:11.12The_MEOW_KingI know the "give everyone poisoned food" wouldn't work on most empires
20:11.16The_MEOW_KingBut the Lorons are different
20:11.30The_MEOW_KingThey see pizza, they eat it
20:11.46Gheldrom: ...Are you basing that off any knowledge of how cyanide works?
20:11.57TechnobliteratorYeah, they're...also very resistant to most poisons because they lived on a planet full of poisonous creatures
20:12.02The_MEOW_KingOooh
20:12.04The_MEOW_KingIn that case
20:12.20GhelYou also need a) a lot of pizza and b) there to be no poison-detecting devices or whatever.
20:12.21XhoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
20:12.23XhoHi
20:13.11Technobliteratorhi xho
20:13.32OpelSpeedsterXho: Are you still mad because Imp didn't read that article you posted?
20:13.41The_MEOW_KingWhat is the Loron populatio?
20:13.44The_MEOW_Kingpopulation*
20:13.46OluapPlayerspu
20:13.58XhoOpelSpeedster: No that was just me joking on the matter
20:13.58OluapPlayerLoron population = more than yours
20:14.06Xhou
20:14.07OpelSpeedsteryeah, i know
20:14.17dromGhel: Not so much, but I know that when cyanide becomes in contact with any compound containing chlorine, a reaction will occur and out comes hydrocyanic acid, which is extremely acidic and toxic to any organism.
20:14.20OpelSpeedsterWas responding to the joke
20:14.34The_MEOW_KingSooo
20:14.43The_MEOW_KingIf my population is 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
20:14.47The_MEOW_KingThey have "more than dat"
20:14.58OpelSpeedsterThey would need to be humongous
20:15.01OpelSpeedsterbut of course
20:15.06Gheldrom: Okay. Well, the actual reason that cyanide is toxic is because it does a very good impression of oxygen, so it gets to where oxygen is supposed to enter the process of respiration and promptly does nothing, while stopping oxygen from doing what it's supposed to do.
20:15.11OpelSpeedsterUnless you are ridiculously advanced in Tier 1, you will never have that much
20:15.19The_MEOW_KingIt's an example
20:15.25XhoWell I think the general joke of the Loron is that they have a virtually infinite population
20:15.29The_MEOW_KingIf they always have "more than me"
20:15.30The_MEOW_KingOooh
20:15.35XhoBecause they're too stupid to check it themselves
20:15.36The_MEOW_KingSo I need
20:15.39The_MEOW_Kinginfinite pizzas
20:15.47dromGhel: Correction, Hydrogen, not Chloride >.<
20:15.48The_MEOW_KingAnd infinite cyanide
20:15.59OpelSpeedsterThe_MEOW_King: A better way is to have a way to make a lot of pizza and cyanide in short ammounts of time
20:16.11GhelRealistically, the largest civilisations could manufacture enough poisoned pizzas with their huge industrial capacities.
20:16.18GhelBut as mentioned, there are other flaws in the process.
20:16.37GhelNamely actually getting the pizzas to the Loron, and then ensuring the poison works.
20:16.44OpelSpeedster^
20:16.45The_MEOW_KingLeader : We managed to build dyson spheres around 100 000 stars
20:16.54The_MEOW_KingRandom Guy : What are we gonna do with all the power?
20:17.00The_MEOW_KingLeader : Make pizzas!
20:17.19OpelSpeedsterI'd like to see that
20:17.25The_MEOW_KingWhat is the poison actually made them stronger
20:17.28GhelThere are also better uses for all those pizzas.
20:17.35OluapPlayerThat ain't gonna work in the long run, the Loron will just grow resistance to the poison
20:17.37The_MEOW_KingBecause their bodies are too dumb to realise they're poisoned
20:17.40GhelLike not poisoning them and eating them for yourselves.
20:17.51OpelSpeedsterGhel: Or feeding those to the starving
20:18.00XhoThe Loron are basically the strongest race on the wiki before going into augmented categories
20:18.08OluapPlayerThey grew resistance to radiation, I'm sure they can shrug off a poison
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20:18.34GhelaeBy "yourselves", I didn't just mean a few individuals have 100,000 stars'-worth of pizza.
20:18.44OpelSpeedsterYeah, all in all I think it's pretty much impossible to destroy the Loron.
20:18.45dromI believe that the Nomatarians would have no issue to produce said posioned pizzas due to their biochemistry (they for instance exhale hydrogen cyanide)
20:18.54The_MEOW_KingImpossible?
20:19.03The_MEOW_KingCould the Xhodoctoes do it if they wanted to ?
20:19.05OpelSpeedsterWell, either impossible or so, so difficult it's not worth it.
20:19.21XhoXhodocto are entirely different
20:19.22OpelSpeedsterThey could, but they don't see the difference between the Loron and the rest of the universe; they're all the same to them
20:19.22OluapPlayerXhodocto can do anything so yes
20:19.39OpelSpeedsterSo if a Xhodocto wanted to destroy the Loron, they would want to destroy the rest while they're at it
20:19.49OluapPlayerI imagine any godrace has the power of killing off the Loron
20:20.03OluapPlayerTheoretically the Taldar could simply make it so that they were never born at all
20:20.38The_MEOW_KingSmart
20:21.38XhoXhodocto - hao bout u stahp messin wit da course of tiem and manage it insted                   dum time bacon
20:21.54OluapPlayer>time bacon
20:21.56OluapPlayerkek
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20:22.20XhoMonet: Just so you know on Ark I've harvested about 400 metal
20:22.37The_MEOW_KingI have to go
20:22.43The_MEOW_KingCya everybody
20:22.48MonetNice. Plenty of metal to work with on our projects.
20:23.00The_MEOW_KingBye!
20:23.01OpelSpeedsterSee you later I guess
20:23.08The_MEOW_KingSame for you
20:23.48XhoI also came across a Skeletal Alpha Rex and I freaked because it was a high level as well
20:24.08XhoOluapPlayer: You should get Ark, lotsa dinos
20:24.18OluapPlayerIsn't that an early access game?
20:24.22XhoYup
20:24.29OluapPlayerYeah I don't support early access
20:24.36Xhodum brazil u get dis nao
20:24.38dromWormy_away Tekdroid Ghelae: So I wrote a function to convert variadic templates to an arrays.
20:24.47OluapPlayer"let's release a beta and never finish it"
20:24.51OluapPlayerThats' early access
20:25.06XhoI'd say they further increase the content with it per update
20:25.10XhoIt's more or less a full game
20:25.18dromAll it does now is spewing out compiler errors -_-
20:25.19OluapPlayerYou mean they finish the unfinished game hur
20:25.29XhoPretty much
20:25.38XhoBut I don't see anything that calls it early access really
20:26.00XhoI'd understand it if there was a lot less content in it but there's quite a lot
20:26.30MonetArk is probably one of the most intensely-updated indie games I've ever seen.
20:26.42MonetWell, apart from Star Citizen.
20:27.00XhoMore or less one update a week I think
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20:27.11The_RandomnessHello
20:27.12MonetBut IDK if Star Citizen counts in this as its not early access.
20:27.16MonetHi
20:27.23OpelSpeedsterHey
20:27.41GhelaeHello.
20:28.07XhoArk is massively unforgiving though
20:28.35Ghelaedrom: That doesn't sound like a successful project.
20:28.51XhoIt doesn't matter what level you are, you go into the wrong place and you are guaranteed to die
20:28.54Monet*Surpsise Raptor kills you, respawn naked either on a beach or in your bedin *
20:29.05XhoSurprise Raptors happen a lot
20:29.13XhoIt makes you gather a hatred for Raptors
20:29.36dromGhelae: http://i.imgur.com/Y07HRff.jpg
20:29.53XhoMonet and I were low levelled and all of a sudden an Alpha Raptor (super duper hard-to-kill miniboss) appears NEAR THE DAMN SPAWN
20:30.12The_Randomnesslol
20:30.20MonetThat was something like 10 minutes in wasn't it?
20:30.24XhoI had to go admin on it and godmode the thing to kill it
20:30.30XhoIt was on like Day 3
20:30.46XhoI think we're around Day 30 now
20:31.22XhoOur house also got swarmed with a shitload of Dilos so we had to steer clear of that area for a few days
20:31.29XhoDilophosaurus that is
20:32.31XhoBut now where we moved to the wintry area we get the occasional sabertooth and direwolf attack
20:32.40GhelaeThat sounds fairly realistic at least. I mean, there's a reason humans didn't evolve until after the dinosaurs died out.
20:33.07XhoAnd we also have a tamed Rex and Brontosaurus that more or less plough through anything that comes their way
20:34.37XhoBut yeah it gets better when you have a lot of resources
20:34.40MonetAye. Xho'd Rex saved our lives many times.
20:34.52XhoThe Rex is called Xho Jr
20:35.44XhoI've had a few randomers come into my non-dedicated server somehow, though I haven't had the audacity to spear them to death yet
20:36.37XhoThere's a certain tether distance you get in non-dedicated servers, though I've since tripled the normal distance
20:36.49Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:A_Loron_History_of_SporeWiki psst check the new history
20:36.52TechnobliteratorA Loron History of UNO
20:37.16TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, Hachiman, you guys may be interested :o
20:37.28OluapPlayersuks
20:37.37Technobliteratorlike ya mom
20:37.51MonetXho: You can do that? Didn't realise
20:38.02XhoYeah me neither until fairly recently
20:38.24MonetIs there a maximum?
20:38.59XhoYeah, 3.0 x normal
20:39.54OluapPlayer"now i ent sexist, cos bein sexist is wrong, an bein wrong is fer chikz"
20:39.57OluapPlayerFucking kek
20:41.04XhoNew Lorchakim model I like
20:41.12Xhohao u do wings
20:41.21OluapPlayermajik snortsnort
20:41.28Monet"4. no pizza. dis is becuz deyz communist tyrants dat hate happiness."
20:42.02MonetHave to agree on the Loron somewhat; UNO love their computers.
20:45.07MonetTechnobliterator: I see the Loron share General Martok's opinion of war: It's only fun when you're winning.
20:47.34ImperiosCharles_Murray: What does "mais ca" mean?
20:47.49Charles_MurrayContext?
20:48.05Charles_Murray"But that"
20:48.18Charles_MurrayThough you need to change that to "mais ça"
20:48.48Technobliteratoryep
20:50.35ImperiosThanks
20:50.58ImperiosCharles_Murray: The context is "Par bonheur3, il comprend aussi ce qu'il lit ou ce qu'il recite, mais ca, on ne le lui demande pas."
20:51.05ImperiosFrom what I understand the meaning is something like
20:51.20XhoProbably means 'however'
20:51.27ImperiosFortunately he understands also that what he'll read or recite will not be asked of him
20:51.47Charles_MurrayTranslation:
20:52.21Charles_Murray"Fortunately, he understands what he's reading and reciting as well. That, however, is not what was asked of him."
20:52.25XhoHOH
20:52.25dromI could only guess what "comprend" and "recite" means
20:52.27XhoC
20:52.33ImperiosOhgod my french is terrible hur
20:52.44dromand "demande"
20:53.18dromEnglish is more related to French (or vice versa) than I've thought
20:53.39XhoEnglish is more related to French I think
20:53.46XhoMainly because the Normans invaded and whatnot
20:53.49The_Randomnessyeah
20:53.59Charles_MurrayI'm trying to find a more exact translation for the latter part of the sentence.
20:54.01dromGodbless the vikings
20:54.11Charles_MurrayIt's very specific, and the tense is hard to convey in English.
20:55.20Wormy_awaydrom http://imgur.com/gallery/t5OdFLh
20:55.22Charles_Murray"That, however, is not being asked of him."
20:55.32Wormy_awayGhelae, drom, Hachiman:  Wonders of the Stoner System https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ruBtLIvJM
20:56.17dromWormy_away: Can you please hotlink the image? I've blocked all images to converse my internet performance
20:56.24ImperiosI get what "on" means I think
20:56.43Wormy_awaydrom:  How would I do that?
20:57.26dromRight-click the image/video by right-clicking it and then "Copy Image Link/URL/Location" depending on which browser/fork you are using
20:57.39Wormy_awayhttp://i.imgur.com/t5OdFLh.png
20:58.00dromneat
21:00.28ImperiosOh also
21:01.18Imperiosin "D'autres petits garcons apprennent l'anglais", what is "d'" for? As far as I understand the kids there are the subject
21:01.27ImperiosI don't see the need for genitive here
21:02.39ImperiosOr wait is it a short form of "des"?
21:03.00dromWormy_away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPlz0eeixDo
21:03.02Imperiosno it can't work here
21:04.00Charles_MurrayImperios "Des autres"
21:04.06Charles_MurrayShortened
21:04.06ImperiosRight
21:04.38Wormy_awaydrom:  Longdog
21:05.40Wormy_awayImperios: http://i.imgur.com/1XlruuE.jpg
21:06.37ImperiosWow what do you mean "Casse-tete" means "puzzle" in French
21:06.54ImperiosThat's how we call metal knuckles in Russia
21:07.18XhoThey call it 'rompecabeza' in Spanish
21:07.25Xho'breaks-head'
21:07.33The_Randomnessyep
21:09.16Wormy_awayThe_Randomness:  Do you get documentaries with Brian Cox in America?
21:09.28The_Randomnessuh
21:09.35Wormy_awayHe's our version of Carl Sagan hur
21:09.37The_Randomnesswhat sort of documentaries has he done?
21:09.46The_RandomnessI know almost nothing about them
21:10.07Wormy_awaySpace or physics
21:10.22The_Randomnessdunno
21:10.58Wormy_awayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonders_of_the_Universe#International_broadcast
21:11.02Wormy_awayLooks like you do
21:11.38dino82_see ya allnext ime
21:11.39dino82_bye bye
21:11.44The_Randomnessbye
21:12.06ImperiosNow ded
21:12.10ImperiosBut before that
21:12.10ImperiosXho
21:12.13ImperiosGive me your page
21:12.19ImperiosNow I'll read it
21:14.17Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3ASkaurovirn/Language
21:15.49ImperiosNow I won't read it
21:15.59OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://puu.sh/l5CsA.webm heard u been talkin shit
21:16.00MonetWormy_Away: Looking at Desert Island DIsks I'm willing to believe Tony Blair does like the works of Bruce SPringsteen
21:16.16Xhothrows Imperios into the underbelly of the void
21:16.17ImperiosJust kidding hur
21:16.34MonetHe was in a rock band.
21:16.36Wormy_awayMonet:  Never heard of him
21:16.46ImperiosThe verb structure looks like Korean
21:16.47ImperiosA bit
21:16.51ImperiosOne thing though
21:17.06ImperiosShouldn't negativity be a suffix class of its own?
21:17.21XhoConlang, no rules saying it should be
21:18.04ImperiosBut I mean how can you say a negative imperative
21:18.07Imperios"Don't do this"
21:18.09XhoIf it's expressed through enclitic language then it is an enclitic
21:18.14MonetI also found this http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00672/rexfeatures_648412c_672130c.jpg
21:18.21ImperiosOr can the enclitics be combined
21:18.25XhoWell it would the the imperative with the enclitic on the end
21:18.34MonetThe man in the centre? That's Blair.
21:18.41XhoEnclitics can be combined yeah
21:19.15ImperiosOh then it makes sense
21:19.58OluapPlayernerdy linguistics talk
21:20.09XhoSo if I wanted to use a negative-continuous enclitic I'd just say 'vanuēdūn' or 'dūnvanuē', the order doesn't matter
21:20.16XhoWe're all nerds here so stfu u sausage
21:20.32OluapPlayerall the words u said are the definition of sausage
21:21.09Xhou den language den
21:21.18Xhooluap speek
21:21.25Xhowhich is dum cuz u sausage
21:21.52OluapPlayerfinish paegs
21:22.02Xhohao bout u dai
21:22.10OluapPlayerhao bout u finish paegs
21:22.39Xhohao bout u dai
21:22.50OluapPlayeralaiv
21:22.54Xhohao bout u dai i sed
21:24.44ImperiosSays the person whose language is snake hissing
21:24.50ImperiosOr bee buzzing
21:25.01OluapPlayerBEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
21:25.02MonetWormy: I brought up Blair because talking of Brian Cox reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWfE4DAyao - wto which Cox was pianist.
21:25.06Imperios"SHHHHHHHHHH" "JJJJJJJJJJ"
21:25.14MonetKeyboardist, whatever.
21:25.19ImperiosThat's literally what Portuguese sounds like to me
21:25.27OluapPlayer>JJJJJJJJJJ
21:25.32OluapPlayerThat makes no sense whatsoever tho
21:25.42ImperiosOr at least Irsk's European Portuguese
21:25.52ImperiosWell not "J"
21:25.56ImperiosBut the second part of "j"
21:26.05ImperiosLike "ge" in "mirage" or "s" in "pleasure"
21:26.10XhoPortuguese sounds nothing like it's written down
21:26.12GhelaeSo, zhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh?
21:26.14XhoKinda scares me
21:26.16ImperiosYes zh
21:26.24ImperiosYou know
21:26.35Imperios"d" in "chega de saudade"
21:26.39ImperiosThat sound
21:26.41ImperiosZHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
21:26.53OluapPlayerIt sounds like fucking "d", what you on about
21:27.01Xhodrugs
21:27.02Xhozhrugs
21:27.06ImperiosHm
21:27.11OluapPlayerUnless European Portuguese is terribly different
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21:27.17OluapPlayerOr Irsk is illiterate
21:27.43dromHUEH HUEH HUEH HUEH
21:27.43Imperios"J in "jenipapo"" is the expmple Wikipedia provides
21:28.01OluapPlayerThat's not a word
21:28.24OluapPlayerAnd even if it was, the J sounds like what it is
21:28.25OluapPlayera J
21:29.03XhoPortugese level: 0
21:29.22XhoSee I can't even spell Portuguese right
21:29.23Imperios"G" in "psicologia"?
21:29.30OluapPlayerAh
21:29.36OluapPlayerOkay I get where you're going
21:29.44ImperiosSo like "sh" but with more voice
21:29.44XhoPsicologia             PSYCHOLOGY I GET IT
21:29.54OluapPlayerYeah we pronounce G as a J when it's followed by either E or I
21:30.14ImperiosSo these "sh" and "j" sounds are very prominent in Portuguese
21:30.31XhoTurns out it's the same in Spanish, psicología
21:30.35OluapPlayerWhen we want the G to keep sounding like a G, we used "Gu"
21:30.38GhelaeSo, Portuguese to Imperios sounds like "GGGGGGGGGGGGG"?
21:30.42OluapPlayerGuepardo
21:30.45OluapPlayertranslates to Cheetah
21:30.55OpelSpeedsterPortuguese is serious business
21:30.58ImperiosRight
21:31.07OluapPlayerGa, Gue, Gui, Go, Gu
21:31.30ImperiosWe use the "j" sound to signify bee buzzing in Russian
21:31.32XhoAlthough the g in 'psicología' is not a j
21:31.40ImperiosWhich is why Portuguese sounds like bee language to me
21:31.43OluapPlayerIt sounds like a j
21:31.47XhoMore of an accentuated h
21:32.06OluapPlayerRussian is weird then
21:32.34OpelSpeedsterRussia IS weird.
21:32.35XhoЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖ
21:32.45OluapPlayerP-see-coh-loh-gee-ah
21:33.03XhoSee-coh-loh-hee-ya for Spanish, because why not
21:33.08OluapPlayerGee is pronounced exactly like jee
21:33.35ImperiosPortuguese is like the funny version of Spanish
21:33.37OluapPlayerdey skip the p
21:33.37ImperiosOr vice versa
21:33.42OluapPlayerkippin the pp
21:33.45OluapPlayerskippin the dong
21:33.52Xhodongskipper
21:33.58XhoSounds like Hachi's carpool
21:34.01XhoTHE DONGSKIPPER
21:34.06ImperiosIt's kinda like Polish and Ukrainian sound like funny versions of Russian to me
21:34.08OluapPlayerSpanish is portuguese that I can't understand ever
21:34.22XhoI don't understand Spanish that much anymore either
21:34.46OluapPlayerEnglish is less sausage-y than spanish despite it being severely more similar to portuguese
21:34.50HachimanPORRA
21:34.51ImperiosUkrainian is basically the Russian version of the Texas drawl
21:35.00ImperiosBut magnified to the point it becomes a different language
21:35.01OluapPlayerHachiman: in ur mouth
21:35.02XhoTrust Hachi to randomly shout 'SEMEN'
21:35.15OluapPlayerPorra is a slur
21:35.20OluapPlayerSo it's more like "cum"
21:35.23Xhoew
21:35.35OluapPlayerSemen in portuguese is
21:35.38OluapPlayerSêmem
21:35.44XhoSeMEEM
21:35.47OluapPlayerfok
21:35.50ImperiosÑÏÅÐÌÀ
21:35.52Xhohoh
21:35.58ImperiosCum in Russian is "concha"
21:36.05ImperiosWhich is why we liked the 2014 Eurovision
21:36.12OluapPlayerConcha is portuguese for "shell"
21:36.16XhoIn Spanish it's...well
21:36.17HachimanNgh I need interactions and stuff for the Khargrim Dwarves to fill the space of roughly 4,600 years
21:36.18Xhosemen
21:36.49OluapPlayerHachiman: they drank beer, fought duergar, drank some more beer, dug some mines and praised the sun-I mean, the thunder
21:36.56XhoI typed into a dictionary 'cheetah' earlier, and forgetting to not blank it out, I was left with the search query 'Semen Cheetah'
21:37.04HachimanKhargrim - RIDE THE LIGHTNING
21:37.07OluapPlayerspooky
21:37.19ImperiosNow I think of the DC supervillain
21:38.01HachimanI'm also going to mention that there is a Khargrim subrace settled in Qliphoth
21:38.06OluapPlayerThe word for Cheetah in European Portuguese is actually Chita, which has the exact same pronounciation
21:38.17OluapPlayerBut over here we call them Guepardos because we like our Gu-s
21:38.22Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWOz-kIwDuU Spanish in a nutshell
21:38.26ImperiosWe call them guepardos too
21:38.32ImperiosWell not guepardo
21:38.33Imperiosgepard
21:38.40OluapPlayerJEEPARD
21:39.06ImperiosXho: http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/cheetah-eat.jpg "Semen Cheetah"
21:39.06Xhoshepard
21:39.10HachimanI read "gue" as "gwey"
21:39.16ImperiosGUE-LA
21:39.17XhoWell
21:39.21XhoYou weren't wrong
21:39.22OluapPlayerwREX
21:39.26OluapPlayerWrex even
21:39.54OluapPlayerHachiman: Old One Eye - noice         kid-sized snacks
21:40.01HachimanMost probably because that is how the Tau from WH40K pronounce "gue"
21:40.26ImperiosIn their case gue-la is derived from Cantonese "gweilo"
21:40.35ImperiosI mean Tau aren't Brazilian
21:40.40XhoThat Mexican guy is on about some kind of universal force that allows him to be psychic and then explains it as drunkenly as possible
21:40.49ImperiosAnd they're literally anti-Portuguese
21:41.10ImperiosTerrible at travelling but good at maintaining what they have
21:41.18OluapPlayerPelagrios - this is how you summon a RUM ELEMENTAL
21:41.26ImperiosFor me personally the ugliest-sounding language ever is Mandarin
21:41.28XhoPelagrios - EL FUAAAAAAAA
21:41.38XhoI like the sound of Mandarin
21:41.43ImperiosIt's literally one-syllable ugly shouts
21:41.45XhoCantonese is a little strange though
21:42.03OluapPlayerhttps://41.media.tumblr.com/a86c7f86a1f162379ca0b8aa924c633a/tumblr_nx1xvcOURn1qewacoo1_540.jpg suddenly, a cat mermaid
21:42.03ImperiosIt's like thu'ums but ugly-sounding
21:42.20ImperiosAnd because of slurred Mandarin pronouncation Mandarin speakers always sound like they are drunk
21:42.20HachimanXho: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11899877_899336190149950_8587289646906916397_n.png?oh=6346fcdfa44f972afcb4a639d17cdc4b&oe=56BE30A5 "more like your philosophy succs"
21:42.40Xhoolol
21:42.43Imperios"CHSHON-GOOOH-SHHHHHEN?" "CHSHON-GOOOH-SHHHHHEN?"
21:43.00OluapPlayerzip zap zop badu bah
21:43.03OluapPlayerno wait that's Bill Cospy
21:43.12OluapPlayerCosby even
21:43.14HachimanOhgod don't get me started
21:43.47ImperiosThough actually it makes sense for a country whose national symbol is a dragon  to have a language that sounds like thu'ums
21:43.49XhoI like how in Chinese, their equivalent of 'bon appetit' is 'eat slowly'
21:44.42OluapPlayerAPPRECIATU THE FOODU
21:44.54XhoThat's the Japanese hur
21:45.08OluapPlayerPotato potahto
21:46.30XhoJapanese is a million times easier than Chinese though
21:47.12HachimanThat's like calling Brazilians and Portuguese the same hur
21:48.04XhoNot even that
21:48.13XhoChinese and Japanese are entirely unrelated as languages
21:48.30XhoKanji and Hanzi is somewhat related but not by much
21:49.15OluapPlayerWe are, but portuguese are idiots while brazilians are undeveloped
21:49.32HachimanBoth monkeys
21:49.47OluapPlayerPortuguese don't live in jungles
21:49.53OluapPlayerAt least not to my knowledge
21:49.56HachimanMonkeys in concrete jungles
21:50.21OluapPlayerAt least they're not choking in smog
21:50.32OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1446343026829.png
21:50.36MonetHomo yuppius for instance.
21:50.47Hachimanhur
21:50.47Technobliteratorhahahaha
21:51.35OluapPlayerI don't even know why I'm defending portuguese people
21:51.49OluapPlayerI've never seen one and over here we stereotype them as bumbling idiots
21:52.12XhoBit like the Americans hur
21:52.24OluapPlayerYes, we treat them like how the british treat americans
21:52.26HachimanI am guessing your stereotyped Brits are the same as the standard stereotypes for Brits hur
21:52.39XhoFish and Chips and bad teeth
21:52.47XhoIn all honesty it's not far from the truth
21:52.53OluapPlayerAnd tophats and industrial revolution
21:52.59XhoThat's quite far from it hur
21:53.05MonetXho: That's because we don't use tooth whitening kits.
21:53.11XhoThat is true
21:53.13OluapPlayerWe do because we absorbed the US's own stereotype via cultural osmosis
21:53.26Hachiman>cultural osmosis
21:53.35Hachimanbig words 4 a munki
21:53.47OluapPlayerbrush ur teeth it reeks of tea in here
21:53.57MonetTea is nice drink.
21:54.27Xhoeh
21:54.32XhoNot big on tea
21:54.38XhoMore of a coffee drinker
21:54.46XhoBLACK AS WELL BECAUSE BLACK
21:54.56OluapPlayerAt least real brits don't look like the ones from the game I'm playing
21:55.04OluapPlayerhttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/397800835202543503/9FEA49BE98141CE3C1CA204BF300B5F490C5DAC6/ woo the babe on the far right
21:55.15dromGhelae: Lot lot of time was put into metaprogramming to make a nice and useable implementation of multidiemsional arrays, I eventually gave up and decided to use the "native" way
21:55.20dromWhich is:
21:55.28XhoOluapPlayer: Well it's not that far from the truth still
21:55.32HachimanOluapPlayer: You would be surprised
21:55.34dromtemplate<typename T, size_t rows_t, size_t columns_t>
21:55.35dromusing Matrix = T[rows_t][columns_t];
21:55.51XhoAs a nationality, the British aren't known for their good looks
21:55.54XhoOr are they I dunno
21:55.59OluapPlayerYou're all still stuck in the Victorian era
21:56.02HachimanThey are and aren't hur
21:56.10HachimanAt least we're not cavemen
21:56.54Ghelaedrom: That looks easier.
21:57.17OluapPlayerThat game is a bad example though, the characters all look like something out of Chernobyl
21:57.27OluapPlayerThe children all have giant gross heads and their eyes are too apart from each other
21:57.31MonetThere are some good-looking brits
21:57.34OluapPlayerYou could fit a house in the space between their eyes
21:57.35XhoAccurate depiction
21:57.35dromhow so?
21:57.48GhelaeWhile real Brits may not be known for good looks, for the most part we don't look that bad.
21:58.05Ghelaedrom: Well you typed it in two lines instead of posting an image. :P
21:58.05XhoMost of the proper good looking Brits are mixed race hur
21:58.08XhoBecause
21:58.09OluapPlayerYou don't count, you're an artificial intelligence
21:58.13OluapPlayerYou can't be pretty
21:58.16OluapPlayeror ugly
21:58.34XhoDon't tell the AI that
21:58.43XhoIt'll spark a technological cataclysm
21:58.48GhelaeAww. That's the first time somebody's called me not-ugly while sober.
21:58.56OluapPlayerolol
21:59.05OluapPlayerHow awful
21:59.06Monethttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Patrick_Stewart_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg not bad for, what 75?
21:59.20OluapPlayerwot
21:59.23OluapPlayerPicard is a brit?
21:59.27Xhoyep lul
21:59.30dromGhelae: 229 written lines in a dedicated header, 69 in a meta-programming header and 23 in an other useless header.
21:59.33OluapPlayerThat I didn't know
21:59.43Ghelaedrom: Maybe not then.
21:59.50dromSo 2 beats that, but it is however unconventional
21:59.59GhelaeOh, okay.
22:00.03dromNot everyone recommends to go the native path
22:00.21dromBut at least the native path eases the use of initialization lists
22:00.34MonetHere in the UK it was funny because it was a Brit playing a Frenchman.
22:00.44drom(int a = { 1,2,3,4,5 })
22:02.05XhoSo someone I know has just got engaged
22:02.13XhoMy natural bitter instinct is to hope they break up asap
22:02.37OluapPlayerdunt say such things
22:02.43OluapPlayerfinish paegs insted
22:03.38Monethttp://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/2013/10/31/836/n/1922153/2acd3496c8441ea4_76214713_10.xxxlarge_2x/i/Looking-every-bit-princess-Diana-gorgeous-her.jpg may she rest in peace.
22:03.42HachimanI've come to accept that a majority of relationships I know of will last only for less than a decade
22:04.19HachimanMonet: I doubt being resting between a wall and a broken windshield counts as peaceful
22:04.27Xhobrutal
22:04.41XhoThat was brutal even by my standards
22:04.53dromGhelae: It does not however solve the lack of OO methods
22:05.04XhoSo brutal it needs to be in German
22:05.21Xhobrutal there we go
22:06.47MonetHachiman: Her body was moved to an estate in Northamptonshire
22:07.04MonetAnd there was a ceremony at Westminster Abbey.
22:07.24GhelaeAnd here I was thinking they'd just left her in the car.
22:07.35OluapPlayerhur
22:07.41HachimanThat would have been awesome
22:07.47OluapPlayerI take this person crashed into a wall and died
22:07.53XhoMore or less
22:08.09HachimanHer driver crashed into a wall and they died
22:08.22XhoShe's super popular with the British people
22:08.25XhoNever really understood why
22:08.27MonetOluapPLayer: There's a conspiracy theory that she was murdered.
22:08.37MonetMaybe an attempt to rationalise how such a lovely woman was killed so brutally.
22:08.46OluapPlayerHm
22:08.51OluapPlayerPrincess Diana sounds familiar
22:08.56OluapPlayerBut I don't know who she is
22:08.59HachimanThe Queen and the rest of the Royal Family wanted her gone due to defacing the bloodline by being in a relationship with a Middle Eastern man
22:09.07HachimanThus the incident with the car
22:09.20XhoOluapPlayer: She was Prince Charles' wife, Prince Charles being the heir to the throne
22:09.33XhoThough Charles will more than likely die before the Queen does at this rate
22:09.46OluapPlayerhur
22:09.58OluapPlayerIsn't Prince Charles like an old man
22:10.02XhoHe is
22:10.11Xho66 years old
22:10.20OluapPlayerWhen I think of "prince", a 60 year old man doesn't come to mind
22:10.27XhoWorld's oldest heir-apparent
22:10.43MonetAnd his mum's at least 80
22:10.48HachimanAnd the Queen is the eldest monarch in the world
22:10.53Xho89
22:11.04HachimanAlongside the longest-ruling monarch
22:11.07OluapPlayerThere's not a lot of places in the world still having monarchies
22:11.17HachimanYes and that is a good thing
22:11.55XhoWell let's not forget Pepi II who ruled 94 years
22:11.56MonetI think it helps that when Elizabeth II was coronated she was still considered empress of the British Empire.
22:11.58OluapPlayerI only know the queen because of the internet where she either has an extremely grumpy "I wish I was not here right now" face or is smiling somewhat sadistically at something
22:12.00XhoThen again that was so 2200 BC
22:12.23HachimanThe Royal Family holds no actual political power within the UK or the Commonwealth yet our money still goes to their fortune
22:12.39MonetOluapPLayer: Actually Liz is a very friendly woman. It's jsut that her smiling is rather subtle.
22:13.05OluapPlayerI keep thinking Elizabeth is a dead queen and not this one
22:13.09OluapPlayer"Elizabeth II"
22:13.17OluapPlayerOkay that's explained
22:13.54MonetYeah not this one http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XfTdnWLMLDA/hqdefault.jpg
22:14.40OluapPlayerdat face
22:15.02HachimanPrince Charles meanwhile is an amusing racist old man who makes every effort to embarass the Queen whenever he can
22:15.22MonetHachiman: No that's Prince Philip.
22:15.28HachimanAh yes
22:15.32HachimanI always get confused
22:15.37MonetPrince CHarles is a 60 year old hippie.
22:15.40OluapPlayerThere's more than one Prince?
22:15.47HachimanThere's like a dozen
22:15.56OluapPlayerI'm only aware of Prince Charles
22:15.58XhoPrince Philip is the Queen's husband
22:16.06XhoI guess he prefers not to be called king
22:16.10OluapPlayerHow come he's not king?
22:16.26XhoHe's not heir to the throne
22:16.48OluapPlayerYou'd expect the queen's husband to be called king
22:16.57XhoI guess so
22:16.57MonetLiz married Philip after her coronation iirc.
22:17.06XhoThat would make sense
22:17.27XhoHe's getting on a bit as well
22:17.32Xho94 or thereabouts
22:18.03OluapPlayerGod, the brit royalty sounds like it's all made of elders hur
22:18.29XhoMonet: They married in 1947, the Queen was coronated in 1953
22:19.07MonetOh wait I know why Philip isn't king
22:19.11MonetHe's Prince of Wales.
22:19.18MonetHe can neve be king.
22:20.26MonetNo wait that's Charles
22:20.27Monetmu brain
22:20.43MonetPhilip is Duke of Edinburugh.
22:20.49MonetEdinburgh*
22:20.53GhelaeOluapPlayer: There are younger princes and princesses. The youngest of which were born in the past few years. Not from the Queen, I should point out.
22:21.45OluapPlayerThat doesn't work on my head
22:22.02OluapPlayerHow are they princes/ses if they're not children of the queen?
22:22.16XhoThey're children of the queen's children
22:22.20XhoAnd so on and so forth
22:22.39OluapPlayerAh
22:22.45GhelaePrince George and Princess Charlotte being the Queen's great-grandchildren.
22:22.46OluapPlayerSo her grandkids can count as princes
22:23.14GhelaeTheir father being Prince William, who is the son of Prince Charles.
22:27.26HachimanThe line of succession goes Charles, Prince of Wales (eldest son), William, Duke of Cambridge (eldest grandson), George of Cambridge (great-grandson), Charlotte of Cambridge (great-granddaughter), Henry of Wales (second grandson), Andrew, Duke of York (second son), Beatrice of York (granddaughter), and so on and so forth
22:27.55HachimanThere are basically 16 heirs to the throne
22:29.17OluapPlayerfok
22:29.29OluapPlayerQueen ain't gonna let go of the title tho
22:29.34OluapPlayercan't kill the reptile
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22:31.47CyrannianHi
22:32.07OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
22:32.09infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
22:32.10OluapPlayery u so inactive
22:32.13HachimanPersonally I do not like the Royal Family and I laugh at the fact that there is now the blood of commoners within their modern bloodline
22:32.18Cyrannian~explode OluapPlayer
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22:33.13MonetWell in some ways there bing common blood in the royal bloodline is a good thing.
22:33.44MonetSticking to "elite" bloodlines leads to inbreeding. Which didn't do well for Germany, France or Austria.
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22:35.36HachimanEveryone from George I onward though is inbred
22:35.38HachimanHai
22:37.04HachimanElizabeth II and Philip are both seventh-generation descendants of George II of Hanover
22:38.37XhoSo just learned that I might be going to Iceland next year
22:38.42XhoWell this is gonna be interesting
22:39.46XhoFrom what I understand Icelandic is a terrifying language
22:40.08MonetXho: I went earlier this year and I have good news
22:40.13MonetPretty much everyone in Iceland speaks English.
22:40.19XhoThought so hur
22:40.30XhoMy Icelandic pronunciation is quite decent though
22:41.33XhoThough I'm trying to get my head around trying to pronounce Fáskrúðsfjörður
22:42.42MonetTook me a couple of attempts but I think I cna pronounce that.
22:42.45MonetEmphasis on think.
22:45.02HachimanXho: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12189813_1456203881093644_3178648114527327188_n.jpg?oh=abb1951fa39c2e9c5b33b599a8e6fa7f&oe=56D05E8D
22:45.10Xhohoh
22:47.11OluapPlayerHachiman Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt#Geography don't know if you noticed but I did a thing with maps here
22:47.32HachimanOoh
22:47.33Xhoy eastern plains brown              u bein racist to da eastern peepl
22:47.36HachimanI like what you did with it
22:47.54OluapPlayerit brown cus earth is brown or whatever
22:48.18XhoK DEN
22:48.34OluapPlayerdunt u caps at me miss
22:50.13HachimanWormy_away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD0x7ho_IYc NEW VSAUCE
22:50.45The_Randomnesseeek a skeleton
22:52.12XhoOh hell that guy looks like the bassist from Periphery
22:52.30Xhohttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/QoYjbDFEkfM/maxresdefault.jpg c
22:52.32Hachimanhur
22:52.41HachimanOh wow
22:55.12HachimanXho: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12208701_943400529071338_4363028749158736847_n.jpg?oh=b6d75bc836d27a41b343e059fc1f824c&oe=56B56E2A
22:55.26Xhooh deer
22:57.14Hachimanhttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12191691_816389578473232_4915424983671313894_n.jpg?oh=82ce599859a830faf878439bb587d26b&oe=56CC52BE
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23:23.11Hachiman;-;
23:23.34The_Randomnessis not ded
23:24.00Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ee/PraetorArcturus.png/revision/latest?cb=20141017192305 I forgot Arcturus had a model
23:24.07XhoI need to update that some time
23:24.14Xhosometime
23:24.16Xhowhatevz brah
23:25.36Hachimanbruh
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