| 00:00.33 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Watch this https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153702467069939 |
| 00:00.41 | Wormy_ | All you need to know about it hur |
| 00:01.39 | Hachiman | What the fuck hur |
| 00:01.56 | Wormy_ | https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11219433_1711590552404110_3833808264386066459_n.jpg?oh=970a3a7b3bd2759206310e7ee5a745c5&oe=56D27677 |
| 00:02.20 | Wormy_ | Yeah its getting sillier than ever |
| 00:02.46 | Wormy_ | Also Iain and Ben's mother came back to life |
| 00:03.07 | Wormy_ | And Ronnie is killing people again |
| 00:03.43 | Hachiman | This is why I do not watch soap operas anymore hur |
| 00:05.57 | Wormy_ | They are out of storylines |
| 00:06.29 | Hachiman | Apparently, according to the fanbase, they are actually managing to tackle the crossdresser storyline with dignity |
| 00:07.04 | Hachiman | Which, if that is the case, is good I suppose since it promotes issues and topics that are relevant to our society |
| 00:08.04 | Wormy_ | Yes, it does have a serious tone as well. Les did not tell Pam he was a cross-dresser and would do it with her best friend. She thought they were having an affair |
| 00:08.33 | Wormy_ | So Pam no longer feels she knows Les, who has this alter ego |
| 00:09.50 | Hachiman | Yeah, which is in very good taste |
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| 00:15.15 | Wormy_ | I mean, its in the tone that doesn't discriminate Les, but it is still Les's fault for hiding it |
| 00:16.14 | Wormy_ | One still feels like he deserves Pam's anger for that dishonesty, but if Pam starts to discriminate him, it will probably shift to his perspective again |
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| 01:05.30 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry about the lack of activity |
| 01:05.31 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 01:06.01 | drom_ | Funnily that the Hotel's name is "B Hotel" |
| 01:06.09 | drom_ | Internet *B* dead |
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| 03:35.07 | Hellrock | And now I'm back. |
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| 09:02.10 | ImpyDroid | Hereo |
| 09:02.12 | ImpyDroid | Hello |
| 09:03.27 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:36.22 | ImpyDroid | hi |
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| 11:58.21 | Imperios | Heil |
| 11:59.26 | Ghelae | Hello again. |
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| 12:08.06 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 12:08.13 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:09.29 | Imperios | Hi |
| 12:14.00 | Imperios | fuck you then |
| 12:15.23 | Liquid_Ink | I often feel like that. |
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| 13:12.10 | Imperios | Hi |
| 13:16.46 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 13:16.55 | Hachiman | Using a new router and ISP so I may occasionally disconnect |
| 13:17.17 | Imperios | Alright |
| 13:17.34 | Imperios | I am thinking of expanding on Imperial Military |
| 13:17.49 | Hachiman | Go ahead |
| 13:17.59 | Imperios | Now that I think about the Empire's actual army must not be that large considering how much autonomy its provinces have |
| 13:18.27 | Hachiman | Yeah I doubt it would be any much larger than the private armies of each province |
| 13:18.59 | Hachiman | I imagine segments of each province's army gets drafted to the Imperial Military |
| 13:20.56 | Imperios | It could be like in the Holy Roman Empire |
| 13:21.36 | Imperios | The monarch personally wields power over a small army but could also draw forces from his provinces with the approval of the Imperial Diet |
| 13:22.22 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 13:23.02 | Imperios | So it'd be more like a small but elite force |
| 13:23.18 | Imperios | Now I only have to think of the name for them |
| 13:23.49 | Imperios | One name that I thought could fit well was "cataphract" but that's a Byzantine term |
| 13:24.08 | Imperios | And I think Byzantine terms are better reserved for the Sovereignty |
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| 13:31.10 | Imperios | Hi |
| 13:31.41 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 13:36.51 | Hachiman | Not to mention that Shiarchon horses are called Cataphractii or something like that |
| 13:36.51 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 13:38.36 | Hachiman | Imperios: How about "Phalanx"? |
| 13:38.43 | OluapPlayer | wat going on |
| 13:38.49 | Imperios | That could work for the army as a whole |
| 13:38.58 | Hachiman | Giving a name to the Empire's military |
| 13:39.02 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Trying to come up with a name for the Empire of Man's main military force |
| 13:39.07 | Imperios | And its individual soldiers |
| 13:39.13 | OluapPlayer | German Army |
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| 13:39.24 | Hachiman | But Empire is more than Germans hur |
| 13:39.31 | OluapPlayer | it's hitlers |
| 13:39.39 | Hachiman | There were non-German Nazis hur |
| 13:39.45 | OluapPlayer | nonsense dat |
| 13:40.11 | Imperios | I presume you meant Wehrmacht hur |
| 13:40.35 | Imperios | Although its organisation IS based on a Reich |
| 13:40.39 | Imperios | Just not the Third Reich |
| 13:40.41 | Imperios | The First Reich |
| 13:40.50 | Hachiman | Either he means the Wehrmacht - which was *not* a Nazi organisation - or the SS |
| 13:41.34 | Imperios | Of course |
| 13:41.48 | Hachiman | Erwin Rommel was <3 |
| 13:41.51 | OluapPlayer | i meen humies is nazis |
| 13:41.53 | OluapPlayer | all of dem |
| 13:42.15 | Hachiman | Except Freelanders are not Nazis hur |
| 13:42.23 | OluapPlayer | Freelanders are not Imperials |
| 13:42.39 | Imperios | Hm |
| 13:42.46 | Imperios | Do the Shiarchon have legions? |
| 13:42.57 | Hachiman | They're the Legion of Shiarchon |
| 13:43.03 | Hachiman | So no I don't think so |
| 13:43.16 | Imperios | ONE legion is not "legions" |
| 13:43.34 | Hachiman | Yes the Shiarchon do have legions |
| 13:43.39 | Hachiman | They're Roman-inspired after all hur |
| 13:44.01 | OluapPlayer | It'd be a lot easier to ask these questions if Xho was here |
| 13:51.25 | Hachiman | Imperios: The Empire needs its own Afrika Korps for settlement in the Tropical Lands |
| 13:51.32 | Hachiman | With a Mannazian Erwin Rommel |
| 13:51.38 | Imperios | hur |
| 13:56.14 | Hachiman | "Many of British whom they fought against were under the impression that it was an elite force, but the Afrika Korps was made up of common German soldiers from the Wehrmacht. They had no special training prior to their arrival in Africa beyond what was usually expected" |
| 13:56.26 | Hachiman | Afrika Korps was *that* good hur |
| 14:17.53 | Imperios | Èç-çà ýòîãî ôèëüì áûë çàïðåù¸í"Immortals" could work but I thought to use it for Alhassal |
| 14:17.56 | Imperios | "Dragoons" could work |
| 14:18.04 | Imperios | But I think it might be a tad too modern |
| 14:19.00 | Hachiman | Empire is one of the more modernized states on Koldenwelt hur |
| 14:19.06 | Hachiman | Save Immortals for Alhassal cus Persia |
| 14:19.54 | Imperios | IT IS NOT THE LASH THEY FEAR |
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| 14:28.38 | Hachiman | Could just use "Legionnaires" |
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| 14:30.39 | Hachiman | I personally like Dragoons |
| 14:31.45 | Imperios | Dragoon is like 17th-19th century or so |
| 14:31.54 | Imperios | So maybe just Legionnaires yes |
| 14:33.11 | Imperios | Here's one gem I found while researching |
| 14:33.26 | Imperios | Apparently the Athenian warriors' battlecry was "elelelelef" |
| 14:35.19 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:35.53 | Hachiman | Also to be fair, Final Fantasy used "Dragoons" and that has a variety of settings in different timezones |
| 14:38.11 | OluapPlayer | ELELELELELELELELELELE |
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| 14:49.59 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7-cDjNOcjg My fucking sides honestly |
| 14:51.01 | OluapPlayer | olol one of the comments was done by "One of Egoraptor's chins" |
| 14:55.42 | Hachiman | olol |
| 15:06.21 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlwPmJWPGX0&list=LLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg&index=17 Not sure if cute as fuck or terrible |
| 15:07.06 | Hachiman | >Peppa Pig >MLP >Thomas the Tank Engine >Shitty stop motion |
| 15:07.09 | Hachiman | Terrible |
| 15:10.08 | Imperios | Speaking of MLP |
| 15:10.16 | Imperios | I saw a pony mariachi song |
| 15:11.40 | Imperios | Or, well, heard |
| 15:13.43 | Hachiman | Sounds dum hur |
| 15:14.22 | OluapPlayer | gud 4 u |
| 15:18.35 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I had an idea for a new short fantasyverse story and I wanted to know if you'd be interested in joining it |
| 15:18.40 | Imperios | Hm? |
| 15:19.18 | OluapPlayer | Clothovera gets corrupted by the All-Knowing and a group ventures inside her mind to purify her from Zran Kar's influence |
| 15:29.37 | OluapPlayer | I'll take the silence as you're not interested |
| 15:29.50 | Hachiman | That or he's being Imp thus being slow as fuck |
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| 15:37.29 | OluapPlayer | Fuck sake |
| 15:53.02 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I could join |
| 15:53.08 | Imperios | And yes Hachi is correct |
| 15:53.18 | OluapPlayer | wat took u so long |
| 15:53.31 | OluapPlayer | It's like you turn away from the screen every time I ask you a question |
| 15:53.33 | Imperios | I was occupied with definite integrals |
| 15:53.42 | Imperios | Generally Mondays are busy days |
| 15:54.13 | Imperios | Sorry hur |
| 15:54.40 | Imperios | But seriously though, I am not sure if I could actually have a character that would be interested |
| 15:55.04 | Imperios | Javina is sentimental but not THAT sentimental |
| 15:55.42 | OluapPlayer | Well, not helping Clotho would result in her being forced into Zran Kar's servitude, this time permanently |
| 15:56.07 | Hachiman | Consider that if Clothovera gets taken over by Zran Kar again, she's a powerful enough sorceress to potentially cause significant trouble for the Empire |
| 15:57.02 | Hachiman | It would probably be in the Empire's interest to *not* allow a potent dark mage to fall into Zran Kar's hands again and be used against them |
| 15:57.09 | Imperios | Ophellatar would be fitting though |
| 15:57.13 | OluapPlayer | I'd prefer characters who have at least some extent of care for Clothovera |
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| 15:58.21 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 15:58.38 | Imperios | She is connected with insanity so she could in theory fit |
| 15:58.51 | Hachiman | But shehas no personal connection to Clotho |
| 15:59.24 | Wormydroid | Who is this, that crazy Radeon girl |
| 15:59.51 | Wormydroid | Telfinne or something |
| 15:59.54 | OluapPlayer | Clothovera is not a Radeon hur |
| 16:00.28 | OluapPlayer | No, we're talking about one of my fantasy characters |
| 16:01.20 | Wormydroid | Ohh, I mixed Clotho up with the sc-fiverse for some reason. |
| 16:02.17 | OluapPlayer | Granted there is a Radeon with a name very similar to Clothovera |
| 16:02.20 | OluapPlayer | That being Iovera |
| 16:02.27 | OluapPlayer | I'm surprised there has never been any jokes about that |
| 16:02.39 | Wormydroid | Ah yes |
| 16:02.47 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 16:02.50 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, I lol'd |
| 16:07.35 | Hachiman | Wormydroid Technobliterator Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuJ9L6X-sIE |
| 16:08.05 | Wormydroid | Post it to me later, I'm on data. |
| 16:08.06 | Technobliterator | hahahahaha |
| 16:15.35 | Imperios | True |
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| 16:25.58 | Wormydroid | I think it might be the alien weaponhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3289810/Mysterious-UFO-dubbed-WTF-collision-course-Earth-Space-junk-crash-Indian-Ocean-month.html |
| 16:26.14 | Wormydroid | It was nice lnowing you guys |
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| 16:38.05 | Wormydroid_ | The aliens could at leadt wait till we see Star Wara |
| 16:38.06 | Wormydroid_ | Wars |
| 16:38.29 | OluapPlayer | You don't know, they might be coming to watch the movie too |
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| 16:40.00 | Wormydroid_ | Lol, reminds me of Galaxy Quest, when aliens mistake science fiction for fact and build a starship based on the show |
| 16:40.26 | Wormydroid_ | Hi |
| 16:40.46 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuJ9L6X-sIE and https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/10297868_1660174074261976_1417209688852301283_n.jpg?oh=e5d74613bb9a9212f82ca5cae0524e9f&oe=56CB9BB4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7-cDjNOcjg |
| 16:41.15 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 16:41.16 | Xho | YOU SCUMMY FUCKER |
| 16:41.18 | Xho | u |
| 16:41.36 | OluapPlayer | I had an idea for a new short fantasy plot and i wanted to know if you want to be part of it |
| 16:41.37 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: The aliens flew to complain about the lack of alien protagonists in Force Awakens and that Disney promulgates alien genocide |
| 16:42.41 | Wormydroid_ | Oh dear, if we didn't have enough of those types |
| 16:42.52 | Wormydroid_ | Already |
| 16:43.26 | Xho | OluapPlayer: msg me dis |
| 16:44.20 | Hachiman | Oh cool, my new headset has glowing lights |
| 16:44.27 | Wormydroid_ | There us someone eating smelly foods next to me on the train. First an onion sandwich, then some cheesey snack, and nowa strong scent of vinegar |
| 16:44.27 | Wormydroid_ | Ugh |
| 16:45.00 | OluapPlayer | >onion sandwich |
| 16:45.04 | OluapPlayer | WAT ARE YE DOIN IN MA TRAIN |
| 16:45.07 | Hachiman | >onion sandwich |
| 16:45.15 | Hachiman | What the fuck that sounds disgusting |
| 16:46.15 | Wormydroid_ | That is what it smells like |
| 16:47.00 | Wormydroid_ | I think it might be Shrek, I darent look and actualise him into reality |
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| 16:54.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Fucksticks |
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| 16:57.08 | Hachiman | >Fucksticks |
| 16:57.13 | Hachiman | That's dildos |
| 16:57.55 | OluapPlayer_ | olol |
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| 17:08.37 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/jonpaulpiques/videos/1674197569462189/?permPage=1 |
| 17:10.55 | Hachiman | hur |
| 17:11.01 | Hachiman | Funny cus true |
| 17:17.36 | Xho | Hachiman: Oh god those Steam posts |
| 17:19.38 | Hachiman | BOOP-BOPP ZIBBIDY WOP |
| 17:37.17 | Hachiman | "Yo mama so ugly, Scorpion said "stay over there!" |
| 17:37.53 | Xho | wow |
| 17:39.04 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYGrC17oTwY |
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| 17:58.20 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 18:01.49 | Wormy_ | Stupid Facebook, there is no point having a memorial page of someone if it has pictures nobody wants to see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-34618228 |
| 18:05.37 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/56/PraetorJulianus2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20151026175923 And here is Valentinianus' replacement after was dedified |
| 18:05.41 | Xho | after he* |
| 18:08.28 | OluapPlayer_ | big scary mann |
| 18:08.45 | Xho | I had fun making the helmet |
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| 18:14.49 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 18:18.13 | Monet | Hello |
| 18:18.27 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Before I revert this user's blankings, what were you planning to do all those years ago: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/System:Amyndeber_System?curid=21358&diff=686928&oldid=306304 |
| 18:19.32 | Monet | I was reading an article in BBC Focus today regarding quantum computers and one possible application is both interesting and wwrrying. |
| 18:20.43 | Monet | Because of a quantum computer's ability to work with stupendously large numbers in a brief amount of time, al our current encryption methods could be at serious risk when one of them goes live. |
| 18:21.05 | Monet | ability to factor stupendously large numbers* |
| 18:21.33 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: I can't remember, but I was friendly with Herbisaor empire and may have planned to protect his page, or was asked to merge his pages and never got around to it. |
| 18:22.27 | Ghelae | Wormy_: I'll check your contribs around that time for clues... eventually. |
| 18:23.07 | Wormy_ | If you want to delete it, go ahead. Herbisoar is long gone |
| 18:23.30 | Ghelae | Monet: That's probably the main reason why there's as much funding for quantum computers as there is. |
| 18:24.04 | Wormy_ | But he was a nice user, ha a personality like Cyrannian as I can best describe but without the evil top hat. |
| 18:25.07 | Monet | Ghelae: It also got me thinking that fictionverse nations that have quantum computers are probably using phenomenally complex encryption methods. |
| 18:25.29 | Ghelae | There is work being done on quantum-proof cryptography... but the real risk for us is of people storing currently-undecipherable data, and just sitting around waiting for a quantum computer to become available. |
| 18:27.27 | Ghelae | It's not so much the speed that's important; just that quantum computing is so different compared to classical computing that the public key encryption system we currently use is nigh-impossible for the latter but there's a nice easy fast algorithm that the former can use against it. |
| 18:29.59 | Ghelae | Even a super-slow quantum computer could divide a gigantic number into its prime factors than a super-fast classical computer could (when said number gets large enough, like the ones used in encryption are). |
| 18:31.54 | Ghelae | And once you get quantum-proof encryption, the main weaknesses are physical: a flaw in the hardware, or the good old-fashioned phone call of "hi, this is password support services, can you just confirm the master password that provides access to all your important systems?" |
| 18:32.15 | Monet | QOuld I be right in thinking that quantum computing works more like a parallel circuit than a series circuit when it comes ot large numbers? |
| 18:34.53 | Ghelae | That should work as a rough analogy, yes. |
| 18:35.49 | Monet | I'm interested in computer archtecture I'm just not an expert on the mechanical side. |
| 18:36.33 | Wormy_ | Interestingly, though this does not apply to quantum encryption, there are some things quantum computers can't do better than classical computers, but those things would be a quantum computer simulating a classical one. |
| 18:38.18 | Ghelae | Quantum computing takes advantage of qubits interfering with each others' states, so essentially you use quantum logic gates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/quantum_gate |
| 18:39.30 | Ghelae | I might have been able to take a module on quantum information science this year, but there was a timetable clash with another module I wanted to do. |
| 18:39.40 | Monet | Yeah that's the bit I'm still trying to wrap my head around: Qbit data is represented as the bits being in all states between 0 and 1 simoultaneously. |
| 18:40.22 | Ghelae | Is the problem with superposition in general or in how it applies to quantum computing? |
| 18:40.54 | Monet | How that effect helps with computation. |
| 18:41.43 | Monet | I heard something that the effect is comparable ot data compression as you essentially have thousands of bits in one. |
| 18:42.59 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Julianus King Angry to the rescue |
| 18:43.23 | Monet | Back in 2012 researchers (I don't know where, the article wasn't specific) built a 2-qbit computer. |
| 18:44.26 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Can't find any clues in your contribs. Deleting. |
| 18:44.37 | Monet | My presumption is 2-qbit revers to the architecture (like how classical computer archetectures are defined as 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit etc.) rather than storage or RAM size. |
| 18:45.41 | Imperios | >Franciscus |
| 18:45.43 | Imperios | Poperchon |
| 18:46.21 | Ghelae | Monet: No, back then it was probably just two individuals qubits. |
| 18:47.13 | Monet | Ah |
| 18:50.34 | Ghelae | While two bits can only be in one of four states 0x0, 1x1, 0x1 or 1x0, two qubits can be in any state (A0+B1)x(C0+D1) for any complex numbers A, B, C and D (such that A^2 + B^2 = C^2 + D^2 = 1). |
| 18:51.23 | Ghelae | where "XxY" here means "first one in state X, second in state Y". |
| 18:54.40 | Wormy_ | The real meat of where quantum computing lies is with factorizing large numbers. For a computer in the late 90s (my book), a normal computer would take centuries to factorize a 25 digit number. A quantum computer would do it in no time at all |
| 18:56.01 | Ghelae | That's the most famous and world-destroying algorithm and the one that started this discussion, but they can do other things very well also. |
| 18:56.34 | Ghelae | Simulating quantum systems (e.g. chemical reactions) is one. |
| 18:57.17 | Monet | They're definitely a boon for scientific study. |
| 18:57.52 | Wormy_ | However, the quantum algorithm has to be right, one problem is that interference may not give the full answer. The implication is that it has shadow counterparts in other universes. This mathematician Peter Shor realised the interference process cancels out wrong answers, and so algorithms have been refined since |
| 18:58.15 | Wormy_ | But eve then, noise is not really problem - just run the super complex computation a 1000 times over |
| 18:59.20 | Monet | Yeah |
| 18:59.34 | Ghelae | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/quantum_algorithm - Shor's algorithm is part of the Fourier transform type, i.e. an important step is converting the superposition into something measurable and definitive rather than randomly selected. |
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| 19:02.40 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:03.03 | Lord-Raydon_ | Hi. |
| 19:03.45 | Lord-Raydon_ | How's everyone doin' today? |
| 19:04.03 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
| 19:04.40 | Lord-Raydon_ | Pretty good, all things considered. |
| 19:05.29 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Low budget High concept films http://imgur.com/gallery/m1ahl |
| 19:14.00 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12075054_414679311990020_1236966782975821094_n.jpg?oh=cfd84c25963ef3362342a25b886904b7&oe=568806BF So I just found the Fiction Universe in one picture |
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| 19:15.18 | Monet | Seems legit. |
| 19:25.35 | Monet | Also reminds me of how somehow the most prominent babies in the setting are hybrids. |
| 19:30.47 | Monet | Shame Septis is still school age. |
| 19:32.09 | Monet | Actually it must suck that despite the fact he and Kezoreg were born in roughly the same year/period, Septis is only just now considered old enough to go places on his own |
| 19:33.22 | Monet | Well...I say on his own, he still nas to tell his parents where he's going in order ot not get in trouble. |
| 19:37.01 | Lord-Raydon | I had to look up Septis, I've been gone so long. >.< |
| 19:39.42 | OluapPlayer_ | I've not seen you around in a while |
| 19:40.46 | Lord-Raydon | Yeah, sorry 'bout that. I lost my copies for Spore and GA and I guess I never bother to buy them again. Though I'm buying them now, I remember how much fun I had here. |
| 19:41.22 | Lord-Raydon | How's Borealis been doin'? |
| 19:41.33 | Monet | Yeah I ahven't used Septis in *ages* |
| 19:41.39 | OluapPlayer_ | It's okay |
| 19:41.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Things have been slow there |
| 19:43.12 | Lord-Raydon | @Monet by what I've read so far, he sounds pretty cool. I'd love to see some stuff with him in it. :D |
| 19:44.14 | Lord-Raydon | @Oluap, ah, okay. I noticed that now it's not just me in Sovaikai though, so that should prove interesting. |
| 19:44.37 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: The page is sadly out of date a little |
| 19:44.54 | Monet | He's coming up to his 30s, in Draocnis terms that makes hi ma teenager. |
| 19:45.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah, the user by the name of The Kaernk colonized there |
| 19:46.22 | Lord-Raydon | @Monet, ah, cool. |
| 19:47.33 | Lord-Raydon | @Oluap, I noticed. :D Is Kaernk active, because I'd love to talk to him and see if we can't liven up our corner of the Galaxy. |
| 19:47.38 | Monet | I might have Septis attend university. |
| 19:48.06 | OluapPlayer_ | He did an edit today, but I've not seen him in the IRC lately |
| 19:48.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Easiest way to get him would be his message wall |
| 19:48.58 | Lord-Raydon | @Monet, I'd love to read that. |
| 19:49.14 | Lord-Raydon | @Oluap, Alright, thanks for the info. |
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| 19:53.26 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: While it's trendy for the world's most important figures ot get educations at the most prestigious universities available...I don't know of any option outside the DI. |
| 19:54.23 | Ghel | Do you mean there's a lack of prestigious universities in the fictionverse? |
| 19:55.03 | Ghel | It's not something I think much has been written about... a few mentions of the University of Orbispira in Cyr's work is really all I can think of. |
| 19:55.29 | Lord-Raydon | Come to think of it, that's a good point. |
| 19:56.13 | Monet | Ghel: Well there's that, definitely little mention of education in the 1st gig. |
| 19:57.01 | Monet | Attending a French university might be nice for Franco-Draconid relations. But there might be a slight knowledege gap |
| 19:57.56 | Monet | On the upside that gap is more likely to be present in the fields of engineering or theoretical physics. |
| 19:58.28 | Monet | I don't imagine Septis being interested in those. |
| 20:01.52 | Lord-Raydon | Yeah, he aspires to be a warrior, right? |
| 20:02.25 | Ghel | Especially with intergalactic communications, I'm not sure where the differences would really lie. The basic scientific knowledge might be the same for any civilisation more than a century or so more advanced than 21st-century Earth (and I don't think you're likely to learn much M-theory or quantum geometry as an undergrad anyway). |
| 20:03.35 | Ghel | When it comes to more emergent sciences, I imagine universities are more likely to focus on those relevant to their most common species: French biological science will focus more on Earth life than Draconis biological science, for example. |
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| 20:04.33 | Ghel | That may also extend to the social sciences, including politics and economics, and especially psychology. |
| 20:04.33 | Lord-Raydon | Hi Tybusen |
| 20:04.35 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:04.37 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 20:05.16 | Monet | Hi |
| 20:05.33 | Monet | Ghel: I had a thought jsut now about fields he could study. |
| 20:05.45 | Ghel | Engineering's possibly another large source of differences, but I think the largest would be in software engineering: while mechanical components and electronic elements are based on the same basic physics, different civilisations will have their own long history of software languages that are completely different from each other. |
| 20:06.31 | Monet | Economics, international relations, history, politics, sociology. Idunno maybe he could take up engineering. |
| 20:08.05 | Lord-Raydon | If Franco-Draconid relations are friendly enough, you could possibly have him attend a university they both are in control, but that's a big if. |
| 20:08.09 | Ghel | Adding engineering to the mix might be stretching him a little too much. |
| 20:08.45 | Tybusen | Human programmer - Sir I think you may have graded my program incorrectly | Draconid professor - No, that's correct. What in blazes are these "if" and "else" statements? Shouldn't you be using "si" and "aliud" expressions? |
| 20:09.57 | Monet | I guess another influencing factor is what he plans to do for his term of military service. |
| 20:10.07 | Tybusen | I have to imagine that a Gigaquadrantic standard programming language has been established |
| 20:11.27 | Ghel | There isn't a single standard programming language on Earth; add millions of other cultures into the mix and I can't see things improving there. |
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| 20:13.15 | Tybusen | I suppose there's also the question of if alien cultures' concepts of programming syntax differ from human concepts |
| 20:14.07 | Ghel | Conversely, a lot might be essentially identical except for differences in the natural languages of the people who made them. So perhaps there are groups of a few hundred species who just settle for the language in which the words for "if", "else", "for" and "while" all have only two letters each. |
| 20:14.43 | Ghel | Or they develop compilers which can understand those words in thousands of languages and interpret them all the same way. |
| 20:15.22 | Tybusen | I'd imagine the easiest solution would have a standard compiler which can interpret many languages rather than try to make everyone learn a standard language |
| 20:15.39 | Lord-Raydon | All things considered, with the differences between them all, it might be better for little Septis to attend a university in the DI. |
| 20:15.45 | Monet | Makes sense |
| 20:16.29 | Monet | Probably. |
| 20:16.44 | Xho | Kicath - hao bout u all stop bein lazi |
| 20:16.53 | Monet | The top DI universities are probably in the higher end of the league tables anyway. |
| 20:16.58 | Ghel | Or perhaps computers are only programmed by other, specialist computers in the future. |
| 20:17.51 | Tybusen | I'd imagine that there will still be a human touch in programming in the future just because it's hard to program a computer that thinks intuitively |
| 20:17.57 | Tybusen | At that point it would be an AI |
| 20:17.59 | Ghel | So no biological being needs to learn a programming language for any practical purpose (and if they ever have to, there's always cybernetic brain implants), so studying programming languages is like studying Latin. |
| 20:18.16 | Ghel | Well, we do have AIs in the fictionverse. |
| 20:18.29 | Tybusen | Yeah, that's true |
| 20:19.03 | Tybusen | I still think that there are things a human mind can do that even the most intuitive AI cannot |
| 20:19.05 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12112057_2498157043572865_8297920980137026962_n.jpg?oh=f0deecabc2258f8e85ec8b5c5a1d8035&oe=56C73480 Dear god |
| 20:19.44 | Tybusen | Xho: Is that what a Xhodocto PC looks like |
| 20:19.53 | Lord-Raydon | That what I was thinking |
| 20:20.00 | Lord-Raydon | *That's |
| 20:20.06 | Ghel | Tybusen: Keep making comments about limitations of AI like that and I'll call Wormy_ to have a philosophical debate with you. :P |
| 20:20.27 | Xho | I don't think that's a custom cover either |
| 20:22.01 | Monet | Xho: If they have any, what are Kicath universities/academies like? |
| 20:22.12 | Xho | Good question |
| 20:22.32 | Xho | I imagine with their culture the Kicath like to educate in engineering |
| 20:22.37 | Tybusen | I am of the opinion that until AI begins to resemble the more fluid, flexible nature of the human mind, an AI will not be able to surpass humans in imaginative capability |
| 20:22.57 | Monet | Draconid university it is then I guess. |
| 20:23.09 | Ghel | Tybusen: And when AI does resemble human minds like that? |
| 20:23.44 | Tybusen | Given though, they are incredibly powerful computational machines and can far surpass humans in matters of logic and function |
| 20:23.56 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman Xho: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/18/All-Knowing_Avatar.png/revision/latest?cb=20151026202343 EEEEEEEEEEE |
| 20:24.12 | Xho | such gangly |
| 20:24.31 | Hachiman | That face |
| 20:24.37 | Hachiman | Looks pretty good |
| 20:24.44 | Tybusen | Ghel: Then I would say that is the point in time when AI can eclipse humanity in innovation |
| 20:25.01 | Xho | I don't know about Kicathian education though, I guess much of their stuff would be more what we call humanitarian |
| 20:25.06 | Xho | humanitarian |
| 20:25.07 | Xho | dur |
| 20:25.17 | OluapPlayer | u meet the final boss befor the story even stars |
| 20:25.22 | OluapPlayer | starts even |
| 20:25.23 | Hachiman | fug |
| 20:25.26 | Xho | Humanities curriculum even |
| 20:25.34 | Xho | So things like history, languages etc |
| 20:25.50 | Xho | They kind of have technology to fill in the engineering/mechanics side of it |
| 20:26.03 | Tybusen | Kicath university student - *on phone* hey dad so I decided to become an art history major |
| 20:26.20 | Monet | Xho: Right, okay maybe a Kicathian uni/academy for Septis then. |
| 20:26.36 | Xho | Suppose so |
| 20:26.44 | Xho | Kicathian art is a little haphazard though |
| 20:26.48 | Tybusen | I like how we still call them "humanities" even when we're not referring to human cultures |
| 20:26.58 | Monet | Although I guess it depends on if Septis wants to specialise in politics or history though. |
| 20:27.13 | Xho | Kicath don't really have an imagination unless it's in the form of a superweapon or a building |
| 20:27.15 | Ghel | So in this case, they're the kicathities instead. |
| 20:27.38 | OluapPlayer | Dullcath |
| 20:27.39 | Lord-Raydon | Considering his lineage, it may be prudent to have Septis study politics, but that's just me. |
| 20:27.47 | Xho | Well they're extremely left-brained let's put it that way |
| 20:28.00 | OluapPlayer | mor liek no brain at all |
| 20:28.12 | Ghel | As a physicist, I just call them "social sciences" and if anybody tells me they're not actually science, I just say "it's not my fault you don't do it properly". |
| 20:28.17 | Tybusen | Kicath university unveils its new department, the Department of Underwater Basket Weaving |
| 20:28.26 | Xho | Arts and whatnot exist but not many Kicath would deem themselves proficient in it |
| 20:28.35 | Tybusen | Ghel: I think there's a distinction between "humanities" and "social sciences" |
| 20:28.48 | Ghel | There is supposed to be, yes. |
| 20:28.53 | Xho | Most artist Kicathians are mainly fashion designers or along that spectrum where it's to do with aesthetics |
| 20:29.18 | Tybusen | Sociology, psychology, economics, etc. are social sciences; history, arts, language, etc. I believe are humanities |
| 20:29.24 | Xho | So it's not even art, more like appearances for the sake of appearances |
| 20:29.34 | Tybusen | You could still argue that fashion is an art |
| 20:29.37 | OluapPlayer | Rovegar - ur hired |
| 20:29.38 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: I considered history because his dad likes studying foreign cultures. |
| 20:29.51 | Xho | Kicath do like writing though and they do have extensive literature |
| 20:30.09 | Tybusen | Monet: I think that things like politics, international relations, and history are definitely things Septis will have to learn considering his lineage |
| 20:30.19 | Ghel | The study of things like history, language and art could be considered scientific if that study is done by analysing the evidence and seeing what conclusions can be drawn from it. |
| 20:30.20 | Xho | The only thing is that their language is borderline unintelligible at a first pass so not very popular on the intergalactic scale |
| 20:30.22 | OluapPlayer | "How to Fucking Murder People" -By anonymous Agent |
| 20:30.29 | Xho | Nu - "anonymous" |
| 20:30.33 | Lord-Raydon | Monet: I agree with Tybusen. |
| 20:30.38 | Ghel | Philsophy is also considered a humanity; I would certainly classify philosophy as very distinct from social science. |
| 20:30.53 | Monet | Tybusen: True, but he has an entire family to educate him in politics. |
| 20:31.06 | Hachiman | Septis could treat politics as a hobby |
| 20:31.25 | Xho | I think I've mentioned that the Kicath did take to writing a continuous account of their history which levels up to a shitload of pages |
| 20:31.42 | Ghel | Then again, I'd classify mathematics as a branch of philosophy, namely a non-empirical derivative of logic. |
| 20:31.50 | Tybusen | Xho: Kicath Wikipedia - over 1 billion pages and counting |
| 20:31.52 | Hachiman | So does any terrestrial history document hur |
| 20:32.00 | Xho | So it's sort of their equivalent to the Histories by Herodotus but over a mucho bigger time frame |
| 20:32.20 | OluapPlayer | mucho |
| 20:32.26 | Tybusen | > mucho bigger |
| 20:32.38 | Xho | I had to go Spanish there |
| 20:32.46 | Hachiman | mucho grande |
| 20:32.54 | OluapPlayer | Went full olé |
| 20:32.56 | Hachiman | me gusta |
| 20:33.00 | Tybusen | totemo dai |
| 20:33.15 | Hachiman | habla no ingles |
| 20:33.19 | Lord-Raydon | I'm dying laughing here guys, stahp-- |
| 20:33.34 | Lord-Raydon | My lungs can't take it-- |
| 20:33.44 | Tybusen | esprechen il deutsch |
| 20:34.01 | Hachiman | I read "il deutsch" as "lil bitch" for a moment |
| 20:34.01 | Monet | Septis grew up with the image of his dad as a heroic warrior. |
| 20:34.21 | OluapPlayer | Bit of a stretch |
| 20:35.05 | Xho | I think the Histories covers from around 600 BC to around the time it was written which was 440 BC |
| 20:35.23 | Xho | Kicathian history is a bit bigger than that hur |
| 20:35.26 | Tybusen | Septis - Hey dad can we go beat up demons | Uriel - Septis, mah boi, peace is what all warriors strive for |
| 20:35.34 | Monet | So imagine the Histories only 400x larger? |
| 20:35.37 | Ghel | So the Kicath version covers 100,000 times that duration? |
| 20:35.40 | Hachiman | Monet: Septis could potentially decide to pursue a permanent career in the military then |
| 20:35.45 | Xho | Either way if you tried to tamper with that piece of history the Kicath would full on exterminate you |
| 20:36.04 | Xho | Kind of important to their culture |
| 20:36.07 | OluapPlayer | Kicath - not on MY watch *writes an essay* |
| 20:36.31 | Xho | Well it covers the foundation of their religion right up to the present day |
| 20:36.35 | Xho | So about 700,000 years |
| 20:36.56 | Tybusen | Kicath - *finds one of the pages of the Kicath Histories blanked, with only the message "Kithworto sucks huevos grandes" in its place* |
| 20:37.07 | Monet | ALong with university I also wondered hat branch of the Imperial Military he'd sign up for. |
| 20:37.13 | Xho | "hih" - Nu |
| 20:37.17 | Hachiman | Kthworto - porra |
| 20:37.36 | Xho | That's Portuguese hur |
| 20:38.13 | Xho | It is Spanish as well come to think of it |
| 20:38.18 | Lord-Raydon | Monet: What are the branches? Navy, Army, etc, or is there some special ones you've made? |
| 20:39.01 | Xho | Though it's not as vulgar in Spanish as it is in Portuguese |
| 20:39.34 | OluapPlayer | dong olé |
| 20:39.49 | Monet | Navy, army, engineers, diplomatic (not ITN but can count for a tour of duty) and rangers. |
| 20:40.28 | Xho | Unless you say "vete a la porra" which means "go to hell" |
| 20:40.40 | Xho | One of those things I don't like about Spanish |
| 20:40.41 | OluapPlayer | Completely different meaning |
| 20:40.42 | Hachiman | Rangers? |
| 20:40.44 | Xho | It's never a direct language |
| 20:40.59 | Lord-Raydon | What are the Rangers? |
| 20:41.09 | Xho | Vocabulary is easy, the grammar is an insane shitstorm |
| 20:41.17 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Military#Astral_Ranger_Corps |
| 20:41.57 | Xho | Also means some kind of club you beat someone with |
| 20:42.01 | Monet | Scouts and military explorers for the most part. |
| 20:42.11 | Xho | Like a truncheon |
| 20:42.37 | Lord-Raydon | I could see Septis doing that. |
| 20:42.47 | Monet | There's one downside to being an Astral Ranger though: Veternes tend to splice themselves up. |
| 20:42.53 | Xho | Not to be confused with "porro" which is a joint |
| 20:43.02 | Xho | Yes that kind of joint |
| 20:43.06 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:43.41 | Lord-Raydon | Then again, becoming a diplomat would be more fitting for his position in the Ultanos line. |
| 20:45.03 | Monet | Sometimes the Astral Rangers engage in first contact. |
| 20:45.24 | Tybusen | Given that Septis sees his father as a great warrior rather than a great statesman, he'll probably lean more towards a military branch than diplomacy or politics |
| 20:45.46 | Tybusen | Astral Rangers being explorers though does mean that diplomatic skills are needed |
| 20:45.46 | Lord-Raydon | Point taken. The Navy might be a good one. |
| 20:46.08 | Hachiman | I can imagine Septis pursuing placement in the Ground Legions |
| 20:46.46 | Lord-Raydon | Oh yea, fighting on the front lines. If he is trying to be like his father, that could be a good place for him, since Uriel does that, right? |
| 20:47.05 | Monet | He did. |
| 20:47.29 | Monet | Though the magnitude of the war with the DCP means he's much more effective on Alcanti. |
| 20:49.57 | Monet | Come to think of it Uriel might prefer the Ground Legions. |
| 20:50.21 | Monet | Becoming a ranger sets Septis down the path of becoming something of a mutant. |
| 20:50.40 | Hachiman | Reminds me of XCOM |
| 20:51.01 | Monet | Something like that. |
| 20:51.10 | Lord-Raydon | Alright, Ground Legions. How does the DI choose officers in the Legions? Is it merit-based or do they appoint people from the aristocracy? |
| 20:51.50 | Monet | Merit, although academy training is preferred. |
| 20:52.17 | Monet | Come to think of it, the way Astral Rangers adapt their use of genetic modification is either though drugs or some form of nanotech. |
| 20:52.34 | Monet | The latter of which Uriel isn't *exactly* very keen on. |
| 20:53.00 | Monet | Mainly the self-replicating type. And chances are Morphis would be almost a requirement. |
| 20:53.39 | Hachiman | Meanwhile Septis becomes a New Age thinker and opposes his father |
| 20:54.29 | Lord-Raydon | That would be an interesting turn of events. |
| 20:54.30 | Monet | It would certainly prevent him from becoming a copy of Uriel. |
| 20:55.14 | Ghel | Joins the military in honour of his father -> decides to go completely against his father's wishes. |
| 20:55.15 | Lord-Raydon | Yeah, definitely. I'd love to see that kind of character development. |
| 20:55.20 | Monet | Uriel would be against the idea, what would Kezoreg think? |
| 20:55.59 | Monet | Out of curiosity. |
| 20:56.06 | Xho | Kezoreg - blow up shit lel |
| 20:56.53 | Lord-Raydon | If Septis does end up going against Uriel's wishes, be sure to make it a slow, quiet thing. |
| 20:57.09 | Hachiman | Kezoreg would advise Septis to go his own path rather than the one Uriel sets for him |
| 20:57.34 | Hachiman | And that if Septis is going to go for something, not to half-ass his decision |
| 20:58.29 | Hachiman | Other than that, yeah he would encourage blowing shit up hur |
| 21:00.01 | Monet | Hachiman: I was more referirng to how one of his best friends would end up becoming some post-Draconis mutant who can do things like survivingin toxic air, heal wounds rapidly or being able to digest soil. |
| 21:00.04 | Lord-Raydon | In what way do you think Septis will go against Uriel's wishes? |
| 21:00.12 | Monet | But that is good advice. |
| 21:00.31 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: Uriel has a phobia of self-replicating nanotechnology. |
| 21:00.34 | Hachiman | To be fair, Kezoreg would know he has not got much standing to criticize |
| 21:00.46 | Hachiman | Considering he is a demonic three-way hybrid abomination |
| 21:00.55 | Monet | True. |
| 21:01.02 | Lord-Raydon | Monet: Ahhh, and Septis would eventually decide to start using them? |
| 21:01.10 | Xho | Angazhar/Tyraz/Kithworto - DISAPPOINTMENT |
| 21:01.26 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: He'd probably need them if he's going ot be a Ranger. |
| 21:01.38 | OluapPlayer | Maryah - not in ma bed |
| 21:01.54 | Hachiman | It could be worse for Uriel; Septis could go with joining the Wraith Legion instead |
| 21:01.55 | Monet | Septis - Blow shit up? I hear rangers get devices that can call in nukes from orbit. |
| 21:01.57 | Lord-Raydon | Monet: Of course. |
| 21:02.47 | Xho | Nukes from orbit |
| 21:02.58 | Xho | Why not hyper-accelerated orbital bombardment hur |
| 21:02.58 | Lord-Raydon | That was a thing y'know |
| 21:03.24 | Xho | You know, throwing huge masses at a planet near enough the speed of light |
| 21:03.28 | Ghel | Xho: Why not hyper-accelerated orbital nukes? |
| 21:03.30 | Monet | Xho: current 1st gig technology means both achieve the same effect. |
| 21:03.35 | Xho | yuy |
| 21:03.37 | Xho | To both |
| 21:03.39 | Hachiman | Septis could grow up with the mindset of utilising post/trans-sapience against post/trans-sapience considering he has been exposed to stories of Essence-attuned individuals combating other Essence-attuned individuals |
| 21:03.54 | Hachiman | And cyborgs combating cyborgs and such |
| 21:04.03 | Ghel | The actual problem with relativistic weaponry is that you don't want to be standing on the planet when it hits. |
| 21:04.28 | Monet | Actually "from orbit" may be too short-range |
| 21:04.30 | Ghel | And as soon as it reaches 87% of the speed of light its kinetic energy is already equal to its mass energy, so any higher and they're even more effective than their own weight in antimatter. |
| 21:04.37 | Monet | Fortunately Angelfire solves the range issue. |
| 21:05.25 | Xho | Kicath - 88 PERCENT ARE YOU MAD NO WE MUST GO TO 89 PERCENT |
| 21:05.53 | Lord-Raydon | Just curious, why does Uriel have a phobia of it? |
| 21:06.11 | Hachiman | Because he fought in a war involving it and lost a brother to it |
| 21:06.14 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: War experience. |
| 21:06.48 | Monet | He's seen the stuff kill and devastate Imperial planets. |
| 21:06.55 | Lord-Raydon | Ah, okay. Sorry, I'm really out of touch with stuff here. |
| 21:06.59 | Xho | "The actual problem with relativistic weaponry is that you don't want to be standing on the planet when it hits." Well |
| 21:07.05 | Monet | It's fine. |
| 21:07.29 | Xho | The fact it would cause an impact strong enough to create a total extinction event |
| 21:07.46 | Monet | Don't want ot be on there no |
| 21:07.55 | Ghel | Obviously if you're not standing on the planet when it hits and don't care about wiping all life off the surface then use as much as you like. |
| 21:08.51 | Xho | "CretaceousâPaleogene extinction event? Nah, weapon testing" |
| 21:09.21 | Monet | Hachiman: Septis could indeed be an advocate of what you say. |
| 21:09.37 | Hachiman | Fighting fire with fire, is what I was meant to say |
| 21:09.56 | Monet | Hell before he was born, his father spent months in a Zombie-infested Minos'Drakon. |
| 21:11.00 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmIlogViPes reloading guns in the fictionverse |
| 21:11.42 | Xho | Speaking of guns I saw a video of this guy who 3D printed a railgun |
| 21:11.46 | Hachiman | There is something so satisfying about gun sounds like that hur |
| 21:12.02 | Xho | http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/8a7981bf2c9fe331a1044648fcbe526b/202822322/handheld-railgun-2015-10-19-02.jpg Here it is |
| 21:12.15 | Xho | "Super Soaker: Serious Edition" |
| 21:12.38 | OluapPlayer | dat huge |
| 21:13.03 | Xho | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-10/20/3d-printed-railgun |
| 21:13.23 | Lord-Raydon | Monet: I really hope you make this Septis stuff, I'd really love to see it. It sounds great. |
| 21:13.35 | OluapPlayer | http://zippy.gfycat.com/VibrantGoldenAcouchi.webm alternatively |
| 21:14.02 | Xho | I laughed at that one |
| 21:14.07 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: Unfortunately Septis is still maybe a decade away from military service. |
| 21:14.16 | Xho | Agent logic |
| 21:14.36 | Lord-Raydon | Monet: Still, the university stuff could be the start of him thinking differently than his father. |
| 21:14.53 | Monet | Lord-Raydon: Definitely. |
| 21:14.55 | Xho | Though I imagine technology that's 175,000 years more advanced than ours would have evolved long beyond the need of reloading |
| 21:15.13 | OluapPlayer | Needs cosmetic reloading because why not |
| 21:15.30 | Monet | I did some quic kfigure-checking. |
| 21:15.57 | Ghel | All the technology in the universe can't defeat conservation of energy, so reloading will still be necessary. |
| 21:15.58 | Monet | WHile that 3D printed railgun is cool, it's a peashooter compared to what the US Navy's been developing. |
| 21:16.06 | Ghel | Unless, of course, you live in a universe where actual magic exists. |
| 21:16.12 | Ghel | Like the SporeWikiverse. |
| 21:16.16 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 21:16.41 | Xho | "The asteroid which created the Chicxulub crater in Yucatán approximately 66 million years ago would have generated megatsunamis as high as 5 kilometres (3.1 mi), enough to completely inundate even large islands such as Madagascar." |
| 21:16.45 | Monet | Last tests I knew the Navy's railgun prototype had a velocity of Mach 8. |
| 21:16.46 | Xho | Motherfucker that's a big wave |
| 21:17.14 | OluapPlayer | Tsunami, not-fucking-around edition |
| 21:18.33 | Monet | Well in theory the best way to minimise reloading is to increase barrel speed to the point where a bullet the size of a grain of rice causes as much damage as an armour peircing bullet. |
| 21:18.45 | OluapPlayer | The asteroid was 10 kilometers wide, and the crater "is more than 180 kilometers (110 miles) in diameter and 20 km (12 mi) in depth" |
| 21:19.22 | OluapPlayer | 10 kilometers of space rock nearly destroyed the world |
| 21:20.30 | Xho | NEED FOR SPEED |
| 21:20.45 | Xho | Well that's the physics behind it |
| 21:20.55 | Monet | Xho: Rmember that gun Nu bought on Araveene? |
| 21:21.01 | Xho | Vaguely |
| 21:21.32 | Monet | I estimate it's using bullets 1/2 the size of 5.57mm ammunation |
| 21:21.50 | Xho | That's tiny |
| 21:22.15 | Monet | But the gun itself has enough stopping power to possibly punch right though the armour of an M1. |
| 21:22.50 | Lord-Raydon | Dayum |
| 21:23.41 | Ghel | I'd suggest making them relativistic bullets so you can make them even smaller, but that wouldn't be good when there's air in the way. |
| 21:24.13 | Xho | Wouldn't that rip the atmosphere apart |
| 21:24.19 | Monet | Ghel: Maybe for ITN warships. |
| 21:24.33 | Ghel | Xho: That's why it wouldn't be good. |
| 21:24.39 | Xho | Nu - lol time for fun |
| 21:24.54 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Should I add the Kicath arrival to the Borealis timeline |
| 21:25.02 | OluapPlayer | If you want |
| 21:25.09 | Xho | Right |
| 21:25.14 | Xho | Now I gotta remember the date |
| 21:25.45 | Xho | 24,000 BC or thereabouts according to the Anatezc-ji 0 page |
| 21:26.08 | Xho | old skool |
| 21:26.20 | Ghel | Monet: At 90% of the speed of light a one-gram bullet would have a kinetic energy of 2x10^14 J. That should be destructive enough for a warship's point-defence weaponry. |
| 21:26.48 | OluapPlayer | 24 thousand years of having the Alvino Brood right at their doorstep |
| 21:27.08 | Xho | Kicath - hi plants wait wat |
| 21:27.44 | Monet | Ghel: So anti-missile guns and drone fighter guns |
| 21:28.32 | Ghel | It's about twice the energy of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. |
| 21:28.57 | Xho | Physics is scary at times |
| 21:29.41 | Monet | Ghel: So half-tonne shells by the sounds of it could be in the megaton range? |
| 21:29.46 | Monet | Wait not half-tonne |
| 21:29.49 | Monet | Half-kilo. |
| 21:30.18 | Monet | megatons of TNT. |
| 21:32.50 | Ghel | 21g should do it. I made a mistake in my bullet-to-Hiroshima conversion. |
| 21:33.41 | Xho | 21 |
| 21:33.43 | Monet | IIRC the Hiroshima bomb had a yield of oh what was it, 57 kilotons? |
| 21:33.49 | Xho | APOCALYPSE MACHINE AT FULL REFERENCE |
| 21:33.54 | Lord-Raydon | Oh Oluap, I changed the name of the ICIS, so I'm trying to go through the places it's referenced and fix the discrepancies. |
| 21:34.05 | Lord-Raydon | Just wanted to let you know before I went about doing it. |
| 21:34.22 | Ghel | I just go on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(energy) for quick comparisons of energies. |
| 21:34.29 | OluapPlayer | All good |
| 21:35.01 | Lord-Raydon | Awesome. |
| 21:35.15 | Ghel | Gives Hiroshima as 21kt. One Mt as being about 66 times more. |
| 21:35.31 | Ghel | 1/66 != 0.021. |
| 21:36.01 | Ghel | But the Little Boy page says it was 15 kt, which does fit the maths. |
| 21:36.11 | Lord-Raydon | I'd also like to finally get the Raydoni member with the PCA. I can't even remember the story for the problems with the diplomat getting assassinated, so I retconned it to where it was just a fringe terror-cell and that it's been resolved. |
| 21:36.22 | Lord-Raydon | *membership |
| 21:36.39 | Monet | Ghel: Wikipedia. Not always correct. |
| 21:37.08 | Ghel | So year, 3.5 times the Hiroshima bomb is a 1g 0.9c bullet, and a 21g 0.9c bullet is 15*3.5*21 kt = 1 Mt. And that's about right. |
| 21:37.43 | Technobliterator | the idea that Wikipedia is not always correct is mostly false |
| 21:37.56 | Technobliterator | they have very strict sourcing policies |
| 21:38.02 | Ghel | The idea that Wikipedia is mostly wrong is definitely false. |
| 21:38.07 | Wormy_ | Those sources aren't always good. |
| 21:38.13 | Ghel | The idea that it isn't always correct is literally true. |
| 21:38.25 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://instagram.com/p/9J3W0_hvMJ/ |
| 21:38.25 | OluapPlayer | Sure, it'd be interesting for them to join in |
| 21:38.32 | Monet | Ghel: The latter is what I was suggesting |
| 21:38.32 | Ghel | But it's good enough for most things. Obviously don't use it as a reference for anything important. |
| 21:38.34 | Wormy_ | I do agree its a good resource, and a good place to start -> and then follow the sources |
| 21:38.36 | Technobliterator | The sources have to be good |
| 21:38.58 | Technobliterator | The policy is strict enough that they won't let you add fake sources |
| 21:39.00 | OluapPlayer | Xho: olol |
| 21:39.01 | Xho | "George Takei plays TF2 on his days off confirmed." |
| 21:39.06 | Monet | It's good for sourcing I agree on that. |
| 21:39.20 | Wormy_ | Ghel: I guess you have access to Web of Knowledge? |
| 21:39.26 | Ghel | Yes, I do. |
| 21:39.49 | Wormy_ | I did when I was at Leicester |
| 21:40.17 | Ghel | But the main conclusion to this is, if you have the power and the tech to accelerate bullets to 90% light speed, you can have a minigun that outguns nukes. |
| 21:41.19 | Monet | Aye |
| 21:41.22 | Ghel | Just don't use it in an atmosphere. |
| 21:41.43 | Wormy_ | heh |
| 21:41.53 | Monet | Well it could be that the power of the magnets could be more easily controlled. |
| 21:42.14 | Xho | Nuke minigun |
| 21:42.17 | Xho | Sounds like a Fallout mod |
| 21:42.26 | Lord-Raydon | Oluap: Cool. Is there a specific way to do it, or do we just write it in? |
| 21:42.39 | Monet | A drone's gun for instance could have superconducting magnets that can be set to 90% in a vacuum and 10% or under in an atmosphere. |
| 21:42.56 | Monet | 90% c* |
| 21:43.01 | OluapPlayer | Just write it in |
| 21:43.23 | Lord-Raydon | Thought so. |
| 21:44.16 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QVIlc0kQPw Well I was right |
| 21:45.01 | Wormy_ | The question is, how does one accelerate relativistic weapons in the SporeWikiverse? In OA, of course, they use similar technology to relativistic drives (or fired from already fast moving craft), but i get the impression they need preparation for such accelerated |
| 21:45.02 | Monet | In one story I wrote that the railguns used on ITN fighter drones can shred structural walls like paper. |
| 21:45.28 | Ghel | The energy that a railgun can accelerate a bullet to scales approximately as mu * I^2 * L, where mu is the magnetic permeability (4*pi*10^-7 in SI units), I is the current, and L is the length of the railgun. |
| 21:46.06 | Wormy_ | *for such accelerations |
| 21:46.23 | Ghel | A 100m barrel needs a current of over a gigaamp. |
| 21:46.45 | Wormy_ | Or even ships for that matter? |
| 21:47.08 | Wormy_ | Which would be turned to plasma if not careful |
| 21:47.12 | Monet | Ghel: and if it doesn't get that? |
| 21:47.49 | Wormy_ | I'm under the assumption of course, relativistic weapons can be fired almost immediately |
| 21:47.57 | Wormy_ | in SW universe |
| 21:48.04 | Ghel | You can probably lower that with the geometry of the wires and rails, but that's not going to be even remotely possible for any superconductor unless it's stupidly thick wires: they have a critical current at which they'll stop being superconductive way below that limit. |
| 21:49.02 | Ghel | If it doesn't get that current, then the energy will be lower, and as the energy is proportional to the current squared, you get e.g. 2x smaller current means 4x smaller energy. |
| 21:49.48 | Ghel | 1000x slower current means million times smaller energy, i.e. use a megaamp and you'll have energies of more like 2x10^9 J. |
| 21:50.03 | Monet | Sounds like an easier option is to have a wapon with two switchable barrels |
| 21:50.38 | Ghel | Well, you simply can't have a railgun that gets bullets that fast. |
| 21:50.52 | Ghel | I'll see if I can find what Orion's Arm uses... |
| 21:51.05 | Ghel | http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/461315d4dbf25 |
| 21:51.16 | Wormy_ | Xho: "wow the idiot shooting at the guy with the fatman mininuke" |
| 21:51.46 | Ghel | Basically, it seems they use sublight warp drives attached to the outside. |
| 21:51.53 | Monet | Ghel: That looks...big. |
| 21:52.22 | Ghel | I know there's been suggestions of using gravitomagnetism instead of normal electromagnetic magnetism. I can't remember whether that would actually work. |
| 21:52.53 | Wormy_ | Or how it would work as technology |
| 21:52.59 | Monet | Well the Draconis have sohwn some aptitude for gravity manipulation. |
| 21:53.11 | Ghel | The railgun equivalent is bigger: http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/461316c513bfe |
| 21:53.38 | Ghel | Gravitomagnetism is simple enough in principle to harness, because it's just a gravitational analog of magnetism. |
| 21:53.51 | Wormy_ | In the SporeWikiverse, warp drives don't locally accelerate anything, hence I left that out of my question. Unless there is a way around it without making SAporeWiki drives sublight, using OA-physics |
| 21:53.53 | Monet | Ghel: That looks like the LHC's biger brother. |
| 21:54.16 | Ghel | Rather than using currents of electrically-charged particles, you use currents of really dense particles. Like mini black holes, or monopoles, or loops of cosmic string. |
| 21:54.46 | Monet | I've been looking for more uses for monopoles. |
| 21:55.18 | Ghel | Wormy_: Presumably the same physics should work. The reason they don't tend to locally accelerate anything is because usually the spaceship is located inside the warp bubble, rather than being attached to the outside. |
| 21:56.12 | Ghel | Monet: So basically, you need a coilgun that uses circular monopole beams rather than wires. |
| 21:56.41 | Wormy_ | Oh right, yes that would solve the problem of what happens if a ship at once crashes into a planet - the warp bubble will transfer the momentum |
| 21:56.49 | Wormy_ | *ship at warp |
| 21:57.34 | Monet | Ghel: I somewhat like the sound of that. |
| 21:58.05 | Ghel | Wormy_: That method works by transfering negative momentum to the inside of the warp bubble while the momentum of the spaceship increases. So obviously you can't get FTL by riding on the outside of a warp bubble. |
| 22:00.10 | Monet | I am intrigued that these interstella rspactime catapults are, well huge. Big enough that only wealthy systems can afford to build one. |
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| 22:03.50 | Monet | Oh-kay, so advanced that one requires the support of clarketech-level archailects to build and control them. |
| 22:04.27 | Wormy_ | Ghel: BTW, the alien supercivilisation might have sent this to us http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mysterious-space-junk-will-plunge-to-earth-in-november/ |
| 22:05.02 | Ghel | Looks like that dyson sphere's relativistic missile launcher malfunctioned. |
| 22:06.30 | Wormy_ | We can laugh at them as it burns up in the atmosphere |
| 22:09.30 | Ghel | The energy from a loop of a coilgun is going to be simply m*B, where m is the magnetic moment of the projectile and B is the magnetic field passing through the loop. |
| 22:09.39 | Ghel | Converting that to gravitomagnetism isn't too difficult. |
| 22:10.17 | Monet | Ah yes reading the article on the 3D printed railgun. Yeah it's a peashooter. |
| 22:10.19 | Ghel | For the gravitomagnetic field, we can use the equation for the magnetic field from a solenoid. |
| 22:11.01 | Ghel | You only need to replace the electric current with the mass current, and mu_0 with 4*pi*G/c^2. |
| 22:12.03 | Ghel | The magnetic moment's a bit trickier. For a ferroelectric material you multiply it's magnetic moment by the mass-to-charge ratio of an electron. |
| 22:12.06 | Ghel | its* |
| 22:12.55 | Monet | It mentions the BAE Systems railgun that had a velocity of 5,600mph |
| 22:14.06 | Ghel | Let's just call that ratio r. So the equation you need is E = (4*pi*G*N*I*m*r)/(L*c^2). G is the gravitational constant, N is the number of coils, I is the mass current, m is the magnetic moment, r is the mass-to-charge ratio, L is the length of the gun and c is the speed of light. |
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| 22:14.17 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 22:14.26 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 22:14.28 | Monet | Hi |
| 22:14.42 | Monet | We're also talking this railgun being at least 12kg. |
| 22:15.01 | Monet | Or as much. Not sure. The capaictors make up 9kg |
| 22:15.28 | Monet | Compare that to the 4kg of a loaded-up M16. |
| 22:15.32 | Ghel | You can then come up with an appropriate mass current, stick in the energy of 2x10^14 J, and see what coil density N/L you need. |
| 22:15.59 | Ghel | If you only want to do order-of-magnitude estimates you can get rid of the 4pi too. |
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| 22:16.24 | Monet | (4*pi*G*N*I*m*r)/(L*c^2) ...Oh...kay. |
| 22:16.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 22:16.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 22:16.34 | Ghel | Let n = N/L be coils per unit length. Then E = G*I*n*m*r/c^2, approximately. |
| 22:16.39 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 22:16.42 | Monet | Might be a little late for me to be doing high-end maths. |
| 22:16.59 | Ghel | It's just algebra. But we'd need to know the appropriate values for I and m. |
| 22:17.18 | Ghel | DrodoEmpire: This is a rough equation to estimate the energy of a gravitomagnetic coilgun. |
| 22:17.21 | Monet | So much multiplication though |
| 22:18.16 | Lord-Raydon | Hi |
| 22:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
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| 22:22.36 | Xho | How come we haven't made a Kangaroo-like race on the wiki |
| 22:22.50 | Ghel | Okay. For 2x10^14 J, you need the product of the gravitomagnetic moment and mass current to be 2.7x10^41 in whatever SI units that actually is. |
| 22:22.52 | DrodoEmpire | shurgs |
| 22:22.54 | DrodoEmpire | *shrugs |
| 22:22.56 | Ghel | Oh, and coil density. |
| 22:23.14 | OluapPlayer | Because no one has made one yet |
| 22:23.17 | OluapPlayer | supa difficult question |
| 22:23.39 | Hellrock | Kangaroos are pretty difficult to make in my opinion. |
| 22:23.59 | Ghel | If you can get ~10^40 kg/s of monopoles passing through each of your particle beam loops you'll be well on target. That's not entirely practical, however. |
| 22:25.10 | Monet | That sounds impractically heavy. |
| 22:25.13 | Ghel | Actually, that product can be reduced by 4pi = 12.6 so it's more like 2x10^40 for the product of gravitomagnetic moment, mass current and coils per unit length. |
| 22:25.49 | Ghel | You might want to accelerate rotating black holes with it. That should give you the greatest gravitomagnetic moment. |
| 22:26.18 | Ghel | So once you've done that you have a minigun that fires black holes with nuke-level kinetic energy. |
| 22:26.52 | Hellrock | Makes me wonder why the military hasn't done that. |
| 22:28.40 | Hellrock | Unless this is science fiction, then correct me if I was wrong. |
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| 22:29.26 | Ghel | It's based on the assumption that, at least in principle, a gravitomagnetic analog of a coilgun is possible and works fairly similarly. |
| 22:29.31 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 22:29.49 | Chantal71 | I'm only looking temporarily. |
| 22:30.14 | Ghel | Hellrock: As you've seen since you've been here, microscopic rotating black holes are one useful ingredient. Another is topological defects such as magnetic monopoles or stable loops of cosmic string. |
| 22:30.15 | DrodoEmpire | ...Okay? |
| 22:30.27 | DrodoEmpire | You can stay as long as you want. :p |
| 22:30.36 | Xho | Kangaroos are some of the weirdest animals on the planet |
| 22:30.39 | Chantal71 | Inactivity on the Wiki might bring me here, but I'm likely going to leave. |
| 22:30.58 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Much of Australia's wildlife is. XD |
| 22:31.38 | Chantal71 | I've been banned here before, and the less I'm here, the less the chances are of a reprisal here. |
| 22:32.20 | DrodoEmpire | Now's your time to improve your standing and not be banned again. |
| 22:32.36 | Chantal71 | No one of interest (To me, almost all of you have no need to feign sadness.) is here, so by leaving, I technically will. |
| 22:32.45 | Ghel | I'd suggest staying here to see if Cyr shows up and then you could ask him about the Mirus map, since he's the one who made it. But it doesn't look like he'll show up tonight. |
| 22:33.01 | DrodoEmpire | Well thanks for calling us bland, Chantal. :p |
| 22:33.14 | DrodoEmpire | Now if you'd stop your self-important monologue that'd be great. |
| 22:33.19 | Ghel | Normally you're better off waiting for people you want to talk to, rather than taking your chances that they'll be here in a period of five minutes when you happen to look. |
| 22:33.20 | Chantal71 | At least I haven't bitten any of you yet. |
| 22:33.28 | Hellrock | Isn't that a bit denigrative? |
| 22:33.29 | Xho | Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that |
| 22:33.49 | Chantal71 | I'm just afraid. Before here, I have a rich history of being banned from communities I tend to hang around. |
| 22:33.56 | Chantal71 | So, sorry. |
| 22:34.08 | Chantal71 | @Hellrock: I answered Drodo. |
| 22:34.38 | Hachiman | Oh fuck |
| 22:34.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yes Hachi? |
| 22:34.48 | Xho | KANGAROOS MATE |
| 22:34.50 | Hachiman | I'm about to lose one of my MEC Troopers |
| 22:34.55 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
| 22:34.57 | Hachiman | Fucking XCOM |
| 22:35.14 | Hachiman | I grow attached to my soldiers and then they take them away from me |
| 22:35.27 | DrodoEmpire | darn |
| 22:35.30 | DrodoEmpire | 3: |
| 22:35.35 | OluapPlayer | "oh no the alien meanies are gonna take my pixels away ;A;" |
| 22:35.49 | Chantal71 | Just remember this: If you grow too attached to your soldiers, we'll have to start shipping. |
| 22:35.57 | Chantal71 | That advice should help. |
| 22:36.06 | Hachiman | I already shipped and I paid the price for it |
| 22:36.27 | Hachiman | Lost an Assault soldier called Dong and I have yet to get over it |
| 22:36.41 | Xho | I have no clue why but that sentence is hilarious |
| 22:36.50 | OluapPlayer | THE ALIENS SHOT MY DONG |
| 22:36.52 | Hellrock | *Gasp* you lost dong? |
| 22:36.56 | Chantal71 | That was just you. Think of everyone else's response to you losing your "Dong". |
| 22:37.03 | OluapPlayer | IT'S DEAD AND LIMP ON THE FLOOR NOW |
| 22:38.08 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: Replace him with a soldier called Expansion Pak |
| 22:38.30 | Xho | Reminds me of the time I was talking about "Chronicles of Dong: Chapter 1 - Expansion" |
| 22:38.31 | Hachiman | non |
| 22:38.36 | Hachiman | olol |
| 22:38.50 | OluapPlayer | what the fug |
| 22:39.10 | Xho | Monet: Man I should've called my ARK character Dong just because of that |
| 22:39.17 | Chantal71 | I think this is a bad time to discus rustling jimmies. |
| 22:39.23 | Chantal71 | *to discuss |
| 22:39.43 | Hellrock | We went from black hole miniguns to a soldier called "Dong". |
| 22:40.02 | Chantal71 | I'm to blame; You didn't start 'till I got here. |
| 22:40.14 | Hachiman | I'm more annoyed about losing my Trooper because MECs take time and resources to replace |
| 22:40.24 | Hachiman | And train as well |
| 22:40.47 | OluapPlayer | You need Feature Length |
| 22:40.52 | Xho | Feature Length Dong |
| 22:41.06 | Xho | Now I'm just making myself laugh |
| 22:41.18 | Hellrock | Expand Dong, now I'm being immature. |
| 22:42.46 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/P6NLD4w.png "Chronicles of Dong" reminded me of this |
| 22:43.23 | Xho | The Universe According to Dankey |
| 22:44.01 | DrodoEmpire | "Packing a big 13.7 billion mile schlong" |
| 22:44.03 | DrodoEmpire | what |
| 22:44.08 | Hellrock | You put that on the phone flashlight instead of a marble. |
| 22:44.21 | Hellrock | That's how the universe was created. |
| 22:46.29 | Chantal71 | Seems as if I've been more mature than the rest of you for the last 5 minutes. |
| 22:47.36 | Monet | This place can quickly descend into dick jokes. |
| 22:47.47 | DrodoEmpire | Which is fine if you aren't such a prude about it. <. |
| 22:47.49 | DrodoEmpire | *<.< |
| 22:48.18 | Chantal71 | What'll others think when they see this? |
| 22:48.44 | Ghel | They'll think "good to know this place hasn't changed lately". |
| 22:48.48 | DrodoEmpire | Nothing at all. If they *are* offended however then they probably aren't the sort of people we want anyway. |
| 22:48.50 | Hachiman | That you have a massive stick lodged up your ass |
| 22:48.58 | DrodoEmpire | That too. |
| 22:49.01 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 22:50.04 | Hachiman | Well, after 59 kills, including over a dozen brawls with Mechtoids and Muton Berserkers, and 32 missions, I lost my third casualty in XCOM |
| 22:50.29 | OluapPlayer | ur bad at gaym |
| 22:50.35 | Hachiman | non dis is gud |
| 22:51.31 | Monet | They will go down in history as a legend |
| 22:52.00 | Hachiman | Also the fucking Sectoid Commander managed to mind control my finest sniper |
| 22:52.08 | Hachiman | I was scared for like the last quarter of that mission |
| 22:52.09 | OluapPlayer | WANKER |
| 22:52.41 | Hachiman | The SC made my sniper practically Allah Ackbar into a group of fellow soldiers in covering smoke and let off a grenade |
| 22:53.10 | Hachiman | I very almost an entire group of four soldiers in that explosion, including him |
| 22:53.33 | Hachiman | very almost lost even |
| 22:54.01 | Chantal71 | Much spoke. Such wow. |
| 22:54.13 | Hachiman | Fuck off with shit meme |
| 22:54.24 | Chantal71 | You gave me the idea. |
| 22:54.28 | Hellrock | Is anyone interested in discussing any fiction? That was kinda why I went here XD |
| 22:54.35 | Hachiman | That meme is about as old as your grandmother |
| 22:54.40 | Hachiman | And about as stale too |
| 22:54.47 | DrodoEmpire | Don't go too hard Hachi, he didn't do anything wrong. :p |
| 22:54.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hellrock: Sure! |
| 22:54.54 | Hellrock | The meme was probably a year old by now. |
| 22:54.59 | DrodoEmpire | Link? |
| 22:55.06 | Chantal71 | Nice to know I have a baby grandmother. |
| 22:55.19 | Hellrock | ikr XD |
| 22:55.26 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: You should name one of your soldiers "Gorilla Warfare" |
| 22:55.33 | Hachiman | olol |
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| 22:55.42 | OluapPlayer | He recites the entire Navy Seals pasta every time he kills an alien |
| 22:55.48 | Hachiman | Well, one of my soldiers earned the nickname "Yeti" |
| 22:55.57 | OluapPlayer | We're halfway through already |
| 22:56.02 | Hachiman | I think "Gorilla" is a nickname that can be earned |
| 22:56.15 | Chantal71 | Hellrock? |
| 22:56.20 | Hellrock | Yes? |
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| 22:56.34 | Chantal71 | Since we're both here for similar reasons, let's discuss. |
| 22:56.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 22:56.44 | Hachiman | Monet: On the bright side, I got that XCOM Base mission out of the way and managed to capture the Sectoid Commander leading it |
| 22:56.45 | Hellrock | Sure. |
| 22:56.46 | DrodoEmpire | Link to your fiction? |
| 22:56.56 | Hellrock | I don't really have a link. |
| 22:57.16 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zsark%27s_Forces link |
| 22:57.38 | Hellrock | By "no link" I meant that the fiction I wanted to discuss isn't here yet. |
| 22:57.44 | Hellrock | Whoopsies. |
| 22:58.03 | Ghel | Is it http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zsark%27s_Beginning ? |
| 22:58.08 | Chantal71 | Which galaxy's that one in? |
| 22:58.23 | Hellrock | It's located in the C2 sector of the Carina Arm in the Milky Way. |
| 22:58.28 | Chantal71 | *galaxy's the first link's one in? |
| 22:58.42 | Chantal71 | I'm not sure if I have any buisness going on there. |
| 22:58.59 | Hellrock | I'm falling behind a bit due to procrastination. |
| 22:59.06 | Hellrock | I churned out a few empty pages, my bad. |
| 23:00.25 | Ghel | So is that page supposed to exist? |
| 23:00.25 | Hellrock | It's planned to be based on Invader Zim - The Nightmare Begins, showing off how superior the organization claims to be despite the coming difficulties. |
| 23:00.42 | Ghel | Okay, yes, that sounds it's supposed to exist. |
| 23:00.46 | Ghel | Just checking. |
| 23:01.03 | Hellrock | Yes, once again, procrastination, school is so easy, it suddenly becomes so boring. |
| 23:01.51 | Hellrock | Btw, is it possible to have three users in a private tab? |
| 23:01.53 | Chantal71 | I've been there. |
| 23:01.59 | Chantal71 | Also, yes. |
| 23:02.09 | Chantal71 | But you'd need extra tabs. |
| 23:02.21 | Xho | Education beats work tbh |
| 23:02.44 | Hellrock | k, anyways about the fiction, I've already written the script, but I need opinion and criticism on it. |
| 23:02.55 | Chantal71 | Xho is Illuminati. |
| 23:03.38 | Hellrock | Look at the spaces between the slots in the X, there's triangles. |
| 23:03.57 | Hellrock | 4 triangles, quadruple illuminati confirmed. |
| 23:04.10 | Chantal71 | Those don't count; That's a Tetrahex. |
| 23:05.14 | Hellrock | so anyways would you like me to show the script for my story? |
| 23:05.24 | Hellrock | I have about 4 hours left. |
| 23:05.25 | Chantal71 | Might as well, I've got time to kill. |
| 23:05.25 | DrodoEmpire | Sure. |
| 23:05.55 | Hellrock | Btw, this will be in the archives, so I can copy and paste it XD |
| 23:07.30 | Hellrock | Btw, please respond in parenthesis anytime if you want to. |
| 23:07.51 | Ghel | If you're planning to copy+paste it here... you'd be better off using something like http://pastie.org |
| 23:08.39 | Hellrock | Nah, it was actually a joke. |
| 23:08.41 | Chantal71 | (I don't use parentheses for whatever special function they may have on this chatroom.) |
| 23:09.18 | Hellrock | I shall start now. |
| 23:09.23 | Ghel | (Parentheses here are only used when you don't want to not avoid putting text outside parentheses.) |
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| 23:10.09 | Hellrock | What do you mean? |
| 23:10.16 | Hellrock | Hello by the way. |
| 23:10.23 | Chantal71 | Hi, Liquid Ink. |
| 23:10.27 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 23:10.39 | Ghel | I was basically saying that parentheses don't have any special function here. |
| 23:10.57 | Monet | Hachiman: That's good. APologies for late reply. |
| 23:11.18 | Ghel | And by using pastie, I meant for you to just put your script on one of those and put the link here. |
| 23:11.20 | Chantal71 | I'd just like to ask if you saw my response on the thread "Confirmation Pending". |
| 23:13.10 | Ghel | Some people might genuinely decide to write out their entire story in this channel and I just wanted to make sure you're not one of them, because that would make other discussion quite difficult. |
| 23:13.14 | Hellrock | I'll start the script now, you can talk about this on a private tab if you'd like :) |
| 23:15.06 | Hellrock | I'll start now: |
| 23:16.36 | Hellrock | *beep beep*, in a dark room, alien text is seen on a control monitor. |
| 23:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | Nono, use pastie! >.< |
| 23:17.10 | DrodoEmpire | Go on another channel actually |
| 23:17.13 | DrodoEmpire | For RPs |
| 23:17.30 | Hellrock | Pastie? Another channel? What do you mean? |
| 23:17.45 | Chantal71 | The link. |
| 23:17.49 | Ghel | Pastie's good so everyone can see it when you provide the link. |
| 23:18.03 | Hellrock | k |
| 23:18.50 | Ghel | As for other channels, #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 are still listed on this channel's notice bar so I assume they're still useable. But pastie will allow other people to see it by finding the link in the logs. |
| 23:19.43 | Ghel | For example, me. Since I start at 10am tomorrow morning so I'm going to go now. Bye! |
| 23:20.39 | Hellrock | Yes, but like I said, I need opinion and criticism on the fly along with better changes, it's kinda better for me than having to burn out hours into fleshing out the story, especially if I'm get impatient. |
| 23:20.57 | Monet | Titanpad can do that |
| 23:20.57 | Hellrock | *if I start getting impatient. |
| 23:22.58 | Hellrock | That sounds good for me, anyone interested? |
| 23:23.19 | DrodoEmpire | I'll take a look. |
| 23:23.31 | Lord-Raydon | I'd love to see it. |
| 23:23.52 | Chantal71 | Same here, I have time to kill. |
| 23:25.12 | Hellrock | Here, https://titanpad.com/kbnuy06ZJn |
| 23:25.19 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Army - Made changes to Infantry and Cavalry. |
| 23:26.03 | DrodoEmpire | Including the mentioning of how confusing identifying Drodo regiments can be. <.< |
| 23:29.06 | Hellrock | Link to my titan pad to above Drodo's link if anyone's interested. |
| 23:29.15 | Hellrock | *is above Drodo's link |
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| 23:36.21 | Chantal71 | Liquid Ink, if you see this, be sure to answer. |
| 23:37.11 | Liquid_Ink | What exactly am I answering? |
| 23:37.23 | Chantal71 | Sorry. |
| 23:37.28 | DrodoEmpire | http://minecraftfanideas.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity - stumbled upon this wiki |
| 23:37.35 | DrodoEmpire | Eugh the colour scheme |
| 23:37.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hurts my eyes. >.< |
| 23:38.13 | Chantal71 | It's likely just because I'm used to people ending discussions, but I was wondering if you saw my reply on the thread "Confirmation Pending". |
| 23:38.35 | Liquid_Ink | Oh, I hadn't checked the wiki yet. |
| 23:38.39 | Liquid_Ink | looks. |
| 23:44.13 | Liquid_Ink | Great ideas you've got there |
| 23:44.34 | Chantal71 | Thanks. Anything to add? |
| 23:45.34 | Liquid_Ink | Not at the time being, although it's worth stating that the lack of interest displayed over the mirror universe removes the obstacle of community objection XD |
| 23:45.46 | Chantal71 | XD |
| 23:47.43 | Chantal71 | I currently don't have all the resources to begin writing articles for my nation(s) there, nor the related events, but once I do, I'll likely get started on that if I don't forget it due to my plans to add regular fictions soon. |
| 23:48.03 | Liquid_Ink | Also worth noting is that mirror Earth's history doesn't seem dominated by colonialism as much, so the remaining territory could be native nations |
| 23:48.40 | Chantal71 | I was considering that as well, particularly for Australia. |
| 23:50.41 | Chantal71 | If you ever have anything to add, be sure to tell me. |
| 23:52.03 | Liquid_Ink | I'm not entirely sure, but I think the guy who owned China had it split in two. |
| 23:52.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
| 23:52.25 | DrodoEmpire | I owned the Ming Imperial State |
| 23:52.25 | Chantal71 | I remembered that as well, and considered the division being the result of the revolution. |
| 23:52.30 | Liquid_Ink | Ah yes. |
| 23:52.36 | DrodoEmpire | Chantal: Not really. |
| 23:52.59 | Chantal71 | Nothing was official yet, so I left it ambiguous, I think. |
| 23:52.59 | DrodoEmpire | Mine came about as a theoretical scenario if the Ming dynasty had, somehow, survived its crisis in the 17th century |
| 23:53.20 | Chantal71 | The map available to me showed only the People's Republic. |
| 23:53.27 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 23:53.33 | DrodoEmpire | Because it hasn;t been updated |
| 23:53.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 23:53.43 | Liquid_Ink | I forgot to fix that. |
| 23:53.58 | DrodoEmpire | Liquid, I *may* want to have as far down as Nanjing... |
| 23:54.03 | DrodoEmpire | But I'll see about that first |
| 23:54.37 | DrodoEmpire | Seeing as otherwise all the Ming have basically is Manchuria, which is decidedly not the cultural heartland of the Ming dynasty |
| 23:55.46 | Chantal71 | In the same way that Taiwan is the Republic Of China, the Ming Dynasty could be Manchuria. |
| 23:55.57 | DrodoEmpire | No. |
| 23:56.04 | DrodoEmpire | That's completely different. |
| 23:56.10 | Chantal71 | Just suggesting. |
| 23:56.24 | DrodoEmpire | Taiwan is still a lot/mostly ethnic Chinese |
| 23:56.36 | DrodoEmpire | Manchuria is inhabited by steppe nomads; The arch enemies of the Ming |
| 23:56.50 | Chantal71 | I was suggesting on a basis of geopolitical similarity. |
| 23:57.02 | Chantal71 | NVM, I see now. |
| 23:57.02 | DrodoEmpire | Right, but it won't work. |
| 23:57.10 | Chantal71 | See above. |
| 23:57.11 | Liquid_Ink | Do you mean Qing dynasty? |
| 23:57.27 | DrodoEmpire | No. |
| 23:57.33 | DrodoEmpire | I mean the Ming, the dynasty that came before |
| 23:57.39 | DrodoEmpire | The last one native to China] |
| 23:57.51 | DrodoEmpire | The Qing do indeed originate from Manchuria. |
| 23:58.35 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
