| 00:00.50 | Monet | Hachiman: I bet the game gives you a medal. |
| 00:01.13 | Hachiman | Did not even give me that |
| 00:01.24 | Monet | Oh |
| 00:01.42 | Monet | Oh well if this is the alien base then it's Sectoid Commanders from here on out |
| 00:01.48 | Hachiman | Sweet |
| 00:02.13 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ReAyeol |
| 00:03.49 | Monet | The happy dance is brilliant |
| 00:05.35 | Hachiman | Emus / Ostriches are like that hur |
| 00:06.19 | Monet | Reminds me of Oghren from Dragon Age. |
| 00:06.44 | Monet | After an encounter there's a chance of him shouting "excuse me while I do my happy-dance!" |
| 00:16.06 | DrodoAway | test |
| 00:17.25 | DrodoEmpire | I've been back. >.< |
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| 00:25.36 | Wormy_ | Uh oh, I've been given more wine |
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| 00:34.51 | DrodoEmpire | D: |
| 00:34.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 00:37.10 | Monet | Hi |
| 00:41.54 | Wormy_ | Moinet, Liquid_Ink: If Picard was Evangelical Christian https://youtu.be/cJrY0r1LZ1g?t=2m12s |
| 00:41.58 | Wormy_ | Monewt |
| 00:42.03 | Wormy_ | Monet |
| 00:44.25 | Monet | "You must submit to your lord and savour Darth Vader!" |
| 00:46.11 | Wormy_ | Riker Investigates the Roswell Incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ck4uR5YIQ |
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| 01:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 01:31.46 | drom | So I noticed that we got a new guy... |
| 01:31.51 | drom | All I can think of is... |
| 01:32.01 | drom | MUUUUUUURPH |
| 01:34.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 01:34.51 | DrodoEmpire | Chantal |
| 01:34.52 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 01:35.00 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah he's... |
| 01:35.04 | drom | No, Morphy10 |
| 01:35.07 | DrodoEmpire | He's been here for a while- |
| 01:35.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:35.34 | DrodoEmpire | He seems friendly enough |
| 01:36.23 | drom | Yeah. But his/her name strongly retributes the "Murph!" line from Interstellar for me |
| 01:36.45 | DrodoEmpire | Right right |
| 01:36.45 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 01:37.06 | drom | Morphy's law |
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| 09:54.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:21.40 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 11:23.13 | Liquid_Ink | Hello. |
| 11:23.23 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:24.29 | Hachiman | Imperios: I hope Extra Credits does a series on at least one of the Great Khans |
| 11:24.40 | Hachiman | They finished their Admiral Yi series yesterday |
| 11:26.43 | Imperios | They could |
| 11:43.45 | Hachiman | Imperios: "A 26-year-old man who has been diagnosed with breast cancer has been denied Medicaid for his treatment because he's a man." |
| 11:43.57 | Imperios | DIE MALE SCUM |
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| 11:56.35 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:56.35 | Monet | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=540121260 just found this |
| 12:06.23 | Hachiman | Huh cool |
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| 12:08.58 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 12:09.24 | OluapPlayer | blargh |
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| 12:42.01 | test | ~test |
| 12:42.01 | infobot | hmm... test is not funny |
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| 13:12.48 | Technobliterator | <Hachiman> Imperios: "A 26-year-old man who has been diagnosed with breast cancer has been denied Medicaid for his treatment because he's a man." |
| 13:12.48 | Technobliterator | <Imperios> DIE MALE SCUM |
| 13:12.51 | Technobliterator | this...actually happened? |
| 13:12.57 | Technobliterator | .___. |
| 13:13.53 | Technobliterator | Also, testicular cancer doesn't get nearly as much treatmnet or attention as breast cancer - though I'm not sure the statistics on which kills more people |
| 13:13.56 | Technobliterator | but it's bullshit basically |
| 13:14.58 | Hachiman | Yeah it's dum |
| 13:15.11 | Liquid_Ink | A particularly notable Australian feminism came out and said transgender women aren't real women, which I think is pretty hypocritical considering her entire reaction to the patriarchy is the pretend to be a man and hope it doesn't notice. |
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| 13:18.02 | Technobliterator | "reaction to the patriarchy"? So, a reaction to a non-existent thing? |
| 13:18.04 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
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| 13:23.22 | Hachiman | Eh, as dumb as it sounds, there is "some" basis for the idea of the Patriarchy given that social gender inequality is still a thing in modern cultures, more in Asia than in Europe / America as far as I know though |
| 13:24.02 | Technobliterator | I would be inclined to agree that it exists in most middle Eastern cultures and some in Asia |
| 13:24.27 | Technobliterator | but in a Western society? No, I don't think there's anything systematic about the isolated cases of social gender inequality |
| 13:25.03 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:25.56 | Technobliterator | I think people try to claim it's systematic so they can justify their own whining |
| 13:26.33 | CubicEarth | hello |
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| 13:31.14 | dino82_ | hello all |
| 13:31.43 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 13:40.01 | dino82_ | anything on the wikiA? |
| 13:42.15 | Ghelae | Liquid Ink has actually been doing stuff. That seems to be the most significant thing on the wiki in the past day. |
| 13:53.19 | dino82_ | it seems indeed |
| 13:53.22 | dino82_ | nice creation! |
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| 13:57.10 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 14:01.48 | Technobliterator | I don't think he has done stuff in like years |
| 14:12.26 | ImpyDroid | Who? |
| 14:13.00 | ImpyDroid | ~seen Medved |
| 14:13.01 | infobot | ImpyDroid: i haven't seen 'medved' |
| 14:13.08 | ImpyDroid | ~seen Leninua |
| 14:13.08 | infobot | ImpyDroid: i haven't seen 'leninua' |
| 14:13.13 | ImpyDroid | ~seen Leninus |
| 14:13.13 | infobot | ImpyDroid: i haven't seen 'leninus' |
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| 14:37.11 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 14:47.21 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 14:54.42 | Hachiman | "I feel like the world would be a better place if I'd never been born." "Aw, that's not true. It'd be exactly the same. You're not important." |
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| 15:33.58 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 15:36.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 15:46.47 | Imperios | Hi Cyr |
| 15:47.08 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 15:53.35 | HachiTop | I'm not Cyr ;-; |
| 15:55.45 | Imperios | That was to Cyr |
| 15:55.46 | Imperios | hur |
| 15:55.50 | Imperios | IHi Hachi too |
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| 16:03.00 | HachiAway | rite bak on my main PC |
| 16:03.25 | Xho | SHUTTHEFUCKUPYOUCUNT |
| 16:03.52 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/paz/videos/10153714984797744/?permPage=1 |
| 16:06.20 | Hachiman | hur |
| 16:37.15 | dino82_ | hi |
| 16:45.36 | Ghelae | Well I've never seen "Ghelae" spelt with a "È" before. |
| 16:55.56 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sundering_of_the_Cognatus - Working on this |
| 17:45.59 | Technobliterator | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-bpQ9AW0Y |
| 17:46.05 | Technobliterator | I swear this is therapeutic |
| 17:46.07 | Technobliterator | Kendrick is King |
| 17:46.40 | Technobliterator | so glad we have people like Kendrick to save music |
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| 17:49.46 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 17:50.14 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Was never entirely fond of Kendrick Lamar |
| 17:50.17 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 17:50.29 | Technobliterator | what |
| 17:50.34 | Technobliterator | Kendrick is the best rapper today |
| 17:50.37 | Technobliterator | by miles |
| 17:51.03 | Hachiman | And I don't listen to rap today hur |
| 17:51.28 | Technobliterator | https://youtu.be/DGYQSJuQJGM?t=1m53s |
| 17:51.45 | Technobliterator | he is the only good rapper today |
| 17:51.49 | Technobliterator | thus the best |
| 17:51.50 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 17:53.49 | Hachiman | I remember being into Immortal Technique for a while a couple of years back |
| 17:54.02 | Technobliterator | I like Kendrick for much the same reason I like Immortal Technique |
| 17:54.10 | Technobliterator | they talk about actual issues that matter |
| 17:54.16 | Technobliterator | instead of Lil Wayne who's just |
| 17:54.17 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 17:54.28 | Technobliterator | LOL GUNS MONEY DRUGS HOES YOLOOOOOOOOOOOo |
| 17:54.46 | Hachiman | At least Lil Jon did it in a way that was actually entertaining hur |
| 17:54.53 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 17:54.53 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 17:56.02 | Technobliterator | I went through a phase where I used to check the top 40 every now and then if only to check what other people like these days |
| 17:56.03 | Technobliterator | I regret that phase |
| 17:56.26 | Xho | Keep calm and listen to prog |
| 17:56.30 | Hachiman | I am guessing you did not like what you saw |
| 17:56.39 | Xho | Cyrannian: Good start btw |
| 17:56.48 | Cyrannian | danke kindly |
| 17:58.40 | Technobliterator | Well, what I could gather from checking the top 40 was that people only really listen to breakup songs, Drake, hipster garbage indie bands, and boy bands |
| 17:58.54 | Technobliterator | This is the one instance where being open minded was not fun |
| 17:59.03 | Technobliterator | also yeah good start on the Cognatus story |
| 18:00.25 | Hachiman | I thought Drake was on your list of artists you liked/ |
| 18:01.56 | Technobliterator | Drake is hit and miss |
| 18:02.00 | Technobliterator | it's the misses that usually chart |
| 18:02.30 | Hachiman | Well a majority of young people have an ear for shit music nowadays |
| 18:03.26 | The_Randomness | "Back in my day, we listened to x music" |
| 18:03.33 | The_Randomness | "And we liked it!" |
| 18:03.52 | Technobliterator | I grew up in the 2000s yet most of the music I like is 90s music |
| 18:03.57 | Technobliterator | or Daft Punk |
| 18:04.15 | Hachiman | I am not even talking about the generation gap, production behind modern music is lazy as fuck |
| 18:04.29 | Technobliterator | have you heard No Words by Hopsin? |
| 18:04.53 | Hachiman | I haven't |
| 18:04.55 | Technobliterator | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDf68ID-Pzk |
| 18:05.00 | Technobliterator | takes the piss out of modern music |
| 18:05.30 | The_Randomness | There's something that I want to say about this entire conversation, but I can't think of the word for it. |
| 18:05.43 | The_Randomness | Is there something inherently wrong with people enjoying "shit music?" |
| 18:06.30 | Technobliterator | Well, to me the only thing wrong with it is that it means more people end up buying shit music, and as such, more people make it, and we hear it on the radio more often |
| 18:06.44 | Hachiman | The damage is superficial really |
| 18:06.46 | Cyrannian | Whatever floats your goat, that's what I say |
| 18:06.53 | Technobliterator | I don't really mind what anyone listens to as long as it isn't teen pop |
| 18:07.01 | Technobliterator | if you're a fan of teen pop, you're wrong |
| 18:07.04 | Technobliterator | otherwise it's ok |
| 18:08.02 | Hachiman | The thing that bothers me most about people who enjoy modern hip hop and pop music is that they are so content with being easy to please |
| 18:08.24 | The_Randomness | Now that just reeks of snobbery. |
| 18:08.49 | Ghelae | I think you've found the word you were looking for, Random. |
| 18:09.04 | Monet_2 | I'm tempted to suggest that MTV has had a hand in modern music. |
| 18:09.05 | Technobliterator | I wouldn't say he's wrong, it's not like modern music isn't lazily composed |
| 18:09.06 | The_Randomness | That wasn't the word I was looking for before |
| 18:09.41 | The_Randomness | But that is effectively what I was looking for |
| 18:10.01 | Monet_2 | Pop and hip-hop was designed to be sold. |
| 18:10.12 | Technobliterator | also, Snoop Dogg takes the piss out of modern rap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0OdmRtuQew |
| 18:11.23 | Monet_2 | So there's something of an "artificiality" to modern music. |
| 18:11.24 | Hachiman | One of my prime examples is that Iggy Azalea's "Fancy", it consists of the same four repetitive chords a majority of the way through |
| 18:11.52 | Technobliterator | ugggggggggggh |
| 18:11.56 | Technobliterator | I hate Iggy Azalea |
| 18:12.14 | Xho | "it consists of the same four repetitive chords a majority of the way through" |
| 18:12.23 | Xho | Most songs since the 1950's have done that |
| 18:12.26 | The_Randomness | Even though I personally cannot stand certain types of music, I take issue to the belief that somebody's taste in music may be "wrong" or inherently flawed in some way. |
| 18:12.42 | Hachiman | True |
| 18:13.20 | Technobliterator | I was mostly exaggerating |
| 18:13.24 | Technobliterator | (which I tend to do a lot) |
| 18:13.44 | Hachiman | I am not saying that certain types of music are "wrong", I am saying that the public tends to settle for stuff that is innately basic and not very complex at all |
| 18:13.57 | Hachiman | Because it's probably easier to listen to |
| 18:14.01 | The_Randomness | And is there anything wrong with that? |
| 18:14.06 | dino82_ | stunning and very beautiful sung for such young children: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeUJ4Y-XOeY |
| 18:14.27 | Technobliterator | There is when lots of people have to listen to it as a result of that |
| 18:14.28 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 18:14.34 | The_Randomness | And why is that? |
| 18:14.51 | dino82_ | lol |
| 18:16.07 | Hachiman | Because you cannot pull the same shit with other forms of media, like video games |
| 18:16.12 | Monet_2 | It's starting to sound like modern music is a kind of "fast food" music. |
| 18:18.19 | Monet_2 | One possibility is that aside from a few exceptions, the true crap of the last decades has dissapeard. |
| 18:18.33 | Hachiman | The music industry is probably the only industry that gets praise and profit for being lazy |
| 18:19.04 | Monet_2 | I dunno TV has its moments. |
| 18:19.18 | Hachiman | The game and film / television industry gets profit for it sure but certainly not praise |
| 18:20.43 | The_Randomness | Alright, that's better, but I still remain unconvinced that this "bad/modern music" is anything but stuff that doesn't match your tastes and you've found (good) reasons to dislike it beyond that. |
| 18:21.46 | Hachiman | Well it's not just modern music that is bad, there are plenty of past examples from the 90s / 80s / 70s / 60s / etc of bad music |
| 18:21.57 | The_Randomness | yeah, but you get what I mean |
| 18:22.09 | The_Randomness | Typically it seems to be put in the context of "music these days" |
| 18:22.24 | The_Randomness | That's why I included that, although I maybe shouldn't have |
| 18:23.51 | Monet_2 | Random has a point: There are a number of examples where utter crap has become lionised by later generations |
| 18:24.46 | Hachiman | Example A including Beatles I presume |
| 18:24.55 | Hachiman | Well, no, Beatles were popular for their time as well |
| 18:26.22 | Monet_2 | Well I had films on my mind. But I presume music isn't immune |
| 18:26.51 | Hachiman | Yeah films are a more common example |
| 18:27.44 | Monet_2 | Films like Metropolis, Citizen Kane and Blade Runner, classics of cinema, weren't exactly as massive when they were released as they are now. |
| 18:28.06 | Hachiman | The Thing as well |
| 18:28.50 | Hachiman | Alongside Fight Club, which only became notable following its DVD release |
| 18:29.03 | Hachiman | And Fight Club is one of my favourite films hur |
| 18:29.10 | Hachiman | And The Thing, too |
| 18:29.21 | Monet_2 | All it seems to take is a cult following. |
| 18:30.06 | Hachiman | I do wonder now, what mindset people held back in the days of the release of those films which made them consider them in a negative way |
| 18:30.26 | Hachiman | Minus problems with the costs of advertisement and such |
| 18:31.38 | Monet_2 | Actually I think Star Wars was another example. |
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| 18:32.10 | Hachiman | I think it may have been |
| 18:32.10 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 18:32.15 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 18:32.55 | Monet_2 | Dunno about Citizen Kane. Blade Runner was thought to put special effects over story and Metropolis became somewhat popular with the Nazis. |
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| 18:33.29 | Monet_2 | Fritz Lang, Metropolis' director completely disowned it by the 1930s. |
| 18:37.46 | Monet_2 | Star Wars was definitely one of the first films to popularise the idea of merchandising. |
| 18:38.15 | Hachiman | I am personally the type of person who admits who will not hold something I like on such a high pedestal that I see it as flawless |
| 18:38.30 | Hachiman | Fuck lemme restructure that sentence, I butchered it |
| 18:39.24 | Hachiman | I am personally the type of person who will admit to when something I like and enjoy is bad or has elements that are bad by comparison to other available media and will not hold it on such a high pedestal that I will see it as utterly flawless |
| 18:39.38 | Hachiman | But I will still enjoy it nonetheless because it's what I enjoy |
| 18:41.49 | Hachiman | A lot of the people I know will not admit to when a certain piece of music is basic in its composition when it is because they take it as an attack |
| 18:43.10 | Hachiman | And just to calrify, there's nothing wrong with having basic composition |
| 18:43.40 | Hachiman | Or at least, inherently wrong |
| 18:43.46 | Monet_2 | Having extra is nice. |
| 18:46.22 | Wormydroid | I am quite fond on B movies |
| 18:47.01 | Wormydroid | Especially those that are "so bad they're good" |
| 18:47.10 | Imperios | Monet_2: Metropolis's failure was mostly because of the critics |
| 18:47.37 | Imperios | They claimed it demonised industrialisation |
| 18:48.44 | Monet_2 | I also saw a few communist overtones. |
| 18:49.34 | Monet_2 | Probably didn't help that the October Revolution occured 10 years earlier. |
| 18:51.39 | Monet_2 | Although Fritz's disassociation was in part to do with his wife (who he co-wrote it with) becoming a Nazi. |
| 18:52.21 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 18:52.43 | Hachiman | Xho Technobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12096639_10153077715330896_3960531041462899504_n.jpg?oh=870eba0bcb596d73f87f9822bda40397&oe=56D2AB2E |
| 18:52.55 | Xho | dur |
| 18:54.27 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.facebook.com/joeymuha/videos/965129233547842/ |
| 18:55.18 | Xho | spooky |
| 18:56.40 | Cyrannian | https://twitter.com/SimsLogic/status/651505975891857408 |
| 18:57.44 | Monet_2 | OKay I've found out how things went bad for Citizen Kane |
| 18:59.22 | Wormydroid | Glarc |
| 18:59.57 | Monet_2 | At the time there was a *huge* fiasco that it was suspected that the film was based on the rise of WIlliam Randolph Hurst - a 1930s Rupert Murdoch - so he went out of his way to destroy the film's publicity campaign. |
| 19:01.36 | Monet_2 | At the time Hearst (my bad with the last post's spelling) was the largest newspaper tycoon in the United States. |
| 19:02.10 | Hachiman | Huh, I suppose that makes sense |
| 19:03.11 | Imperios | Now this makes me wonder which movies of today will be remembered a few generations after us |
| 19:03.41 | Imperios | Our grandchildren would probably laugh at the Marvel movies |
| 19:03.51 | Hachiman | People have already stopped speaking about Avatar |
| 19:04.00 | Hachiman | As in, the James Cameron movie |
| 19:04.13 | Monet_2 | I think the Marvel Movies will be remembered. |
| 19:04.55 | Hachiman | Only because they're Marvel |
| 19:05.03 | Hachiman | And also probably because they're good movies, maybe |
| 19:05.14 | Monet_2 | TI don't think so. |
| 19:05.16 | Monet_2 | But the latterp ertly |
| 19:05.48 | Monet_2 | The MCU movies were the first superhero movies in years that have been highly praised. |
| 19:07.09 | Imperios | Thing is sensibilities change |
| 19:07.20 | Imperios | Burton's Batman was praised in its age |
| 19:07.23 | Imperios | But look at it now |
| 19:07.27 | Imperios | We just don't buy a fancy clown |
| 19:07.58 | Hachiman | Except everyone loves Heath Ledger's Joker |
| 19:08.04 | Monet_2 | Not only that, the MCU made us realise that superhero teamup movies could be *good*. |
| 19:08.51 | Monet_2 | Heath Ledger's Joker is possibly more grounded. |
| 19:08.58 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 19:09.08 | Imperios | I am referring to Jack Nicholson |
| 19:09.13 | Hachiman | "I'M LIKE A DOG WHO CHASES CARS" |
| 19:09.22 | Monet_2 | Sure he's a clown, but he's a clown in a tux. |
| 19:09.39 | Imperios | We don't want fancy clowns with camp plans, we want dogs who chase cars |
| 19:09.44 | Imperios | Guys of simple tastes |
| 19:09.47 | Imperios | Agents of chaos |
| 19:10.01 | Monet_2 | Okay not quite a tux. |
| 19:10.03 | Hachiman | KAYOSS |
| 19:10.43 | Monet_2 | Still her the purple coat but Jack Nicholson's Joker wore *this* http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/3/3e/Jack_Nicholson_As_The_Joker.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140104145327 as a waistcoat and shirt. |
| 19:11.25 | Imperios | But yeah Avatar is now pretty much forgotten |
| 19:11.28 | Xho | So we went from music industry to the Joker |
| 19:11.28 | Xho | hao dis |
| 19:11.41 | Imperios | I remember seeing people who claimed it was some revelation |
| 19:11.56 | Imperios | I hated them and said their movie was pretty much mediocre |
| 19:12.02 | Imperios | And look where they are now |
| 19:12.04 | Monet_2 | Well look what it did for 3D. |
| 19:12.55 | Monet_2 | 3D as a technology, sure it's still somewhat polarised but I'm hearing less cases of nausea from seeing something in 3D. |
| 19:13.38 | Hachiman | I honestly think, as attractive as a movie Avatar was, the modern Planet of the Apes is a better example as to how it should be used |
| 19:13.43 | Hachiman | And maybe The Hobbit |
| 19:14.34 | Monet_2 | Avatar tried though |
| 19:15.01 | Hachiman | Avatar suffered from a cliche, mediocre story |
| 19:16.07 | Hachiman | Avatar effectively suffers a similar problem to the Transformers franchise, except that Bay knows his movies' plots are awful thus makes up for it by making them the visually most spectacular films on the market |
| 19:16.36 | Imperios | Cameron wanted to tap to the geek community by his world-building |
| 19:17.15 | Hachiman | His worldbuilding is eh |
| 19:17.51 | Xho | I think Cameron is overrated slightly |
| 19:18.08 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 19:18.12 | Hachiman | I do like Cameron's films, but yeah, he gets more praise than he really deserves |
| 19:18.19 | Monet | Avatar got nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards. It didn't win (science fiction rarely does for Best Picture) but it did win Best VFX and Best Cinematography. |
| 19:18.21 | Technobliterator | I think anyone who directed the Titanic is a terrible filmmaker |
| 19:18.40 | Hachiman | But Terminator and Aliens |
| 19:19.00 | Imperios | He tried to make a movie that'd attract both the geeky crowd and the average filmgoer but failed at that |
| 19:19.14 | Technobliterator | I'll let him slide for that |
| 19:19.44 | Hachiman | Geeks probably laughed at how unbelievable his "alien" world was and the average filmgoer probably thought the story wasn't worth their ticket |
| 19:20.18 | Monet | I think while Avatar sucked, it did open the floodgates. |
| 19:20.49 | Hachiman | Jurassic Park did a better job |
| 19:21.14 | Monet | I mean at promoting 3D cinema. |
| 19:21.26 | Hachiman | And Jurassic Park still did a better job hur |
| 19:21.54 | Hachiman | Like, there is a reason why the original Jurassic Park is still spoken about and Avatar is not |
| 19:22.21 | Monet | The number of films that came out in 3D between 2009 and 2013 *exploded* comapred to the number that come out between 2005 and 2009. |
| 19:22.53 | Hachiman | I find that 3D is nothing but a gimmick really |
| 19:23.22 | Monet | Then again Up came out the same year and won Best Animation |
| 19:23.22 | Hachiman | I honestly *hate* watching films in 3D |
| 19:23.39 | Hachiman | I will always buy tickets for a regular screening rather than a 3D one |
| 19:23.56 | Monet | Like I said the technique is still rather polarising. |
| 19:24.41 | Monet | I watched The Martian in 3D last week, and the sense of depth I got in the opening scenes was pretty amazing. |
| 19:25.34 | Monet | 3D is more than stuff flying at you; it's mimicing the way your eyes create a picture. |
| 19:25.56 | Hachiman | Except that a lot of movies that advertise 3D is more focused on throwing stuff at you hur |
| 19:27.42 | Monet | Well they need to prove they're using the tech somehow lol. |
| 19:27.53 | Ghelae | As with many things, the most common usage of the technique is probably to do something simple and showy like that. It can still be done well, however. |
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| 19:30.36 | Monet | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/at-the-movies/a324805/poll-3d-movies-have-you-had-enough-of-them.html#~ps9JhBGfuCpvp4 I wil lagree with you about how many films use 3D as a nexcuse to throw stuff at you. |
| 19:31.09 | Monet | There are figures in the film industry admitting that perhaps some of the issue is too much exploitation of the technology. |
| 19:32.44 | Monet | "What happened to 3-D? It may have died from a case of acute septicemia â too much crap in the system." - http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2011/09/who_killed_3d.single.html |
| 19:33.29 | Ghelae | I would imagine that the panoramic views of Mars in The Martian were an example of 3D done well, but I only saw it in 2D. |
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| 19:34.22 | Monet | Ghelae: They were in my opinion. |
| 19:34.49 | Monet | The oipening panoramic shots were when I realised how 3D cinema can portray depth well. |
| 19:35.09 | Monet | But it's like the old saying goes, if all goes well no one says anything. But when something goes wrong everyone points fingers. |
| 19:40.31 | Monet | Reading this Slate article it seems another of its limitations is 2D is simply more practical to watch. You don't need glasses on and sometimes the effect of 3D can feel so subtle you start wondering if you really are watching a 3D movie. |
| 19:40.53 | Monet | WHich can feel like paying extra for no reason at all. |
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| 19:45.08 | Monet | Reminds me a little of Human Revolution's story tbh. |
| 19:46.06 | Monet | Hugh Darrow created his first augmentations to help people. THen as the technology was refined and more and more large ocmpanies picked it up, they all went made with it. |
| 19:46.22 | Monet | went mad* |
| 19:46.55 | Monet | 10 years on and Hugh was seeing people with augmentations or implants for stuff he never imagined people wanting |
| 19:47.47 | Monet | Like CASIE which could fine-read human body language and disperse pheromones in order to coerce people towards your way of thinking. |
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| 19:54.24 | The_Randomness | Interesting |
| 19:54.48 | Monet | I just rememebred another correlation |
| 19:55.36 | Monet | By the 2020s there was a mentality emerging where augmentations were must-haves, that you could be disadvantaged if you didn't buy X comapny's latest implants. |
| 19:56.13 | Monet | During the 201Xs, screenings of films like Dredd were difficult to find in 2D. |
| 19:56.37 | Monet | Forcing some cinemagoers to have ot sit through a film with a technology they didn't care about. |
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| 19:59.19 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 19:59.23 | The_Randomness | wb |
| 19:59.33 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:59.34 | Monet | Hi |
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| 20:10.15 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 20:10.35 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 20:42.21 | Monet_2 | hi |
| 20:42.23 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 20:43.22 | Tybusen | Hi |
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| 20:43.34 | Tybusen | hai buni |
| 20:43.52 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 21:16.10 | Xho | Hachiman Technobliterator: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/tantalus/s-SkfyZ So I finally did a proper thing |
| 21:20.09 | Hachiman | Sounds pretty damn good to me |
| 21:23.21 | Xho | I was quite proud of the riff at the end |
| 21:24.46 | Hachiman | Yeah that's a great riff |
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| 22:04.22 | Xho | http://www.iflscience.com/space/5-worst-exoplanets-live |
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| 22:18.59 | drom | Hai |
| 22:21.02 | drom | ~kidnap Tybusen |
| 22:21.04 | infobot | ACTION drives up in a non-descript white van, jumps out, shoves Tybusen in the back, and drives off. |
| 22:22.14 | Tybusen | rolls out of the unlocked back door |
| 22:23.54 | drom | makes a sharp U-turn and drives up to Tybusen, gets out of the van and breaks Tybusen's knee caps |
| 22:24.28 | Tybusen | uses his broken bones to slash drom's tires |
| 22:25.58 | drom | I need you alive ya fuckboy |
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| 22:27.02 | drom | Tybusen: get to #katar |
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| 23:12.53 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 23:13.40 | Wormy_ | Hopefully I can do some GXS stuff next week |
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| 23:17.26 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: I learned an interesting fact about my town today. A watcman in the 19th century used to walk around with a pistol and blunderbuss, and would fine people who outside after 9:30 PM, or who lights on. He worked for the local mill which practically owned the residents. |
| 23:17.43 | Wormy_ | *or who had lights on |
| 23:23.45 | DrodoEmpire | Interestug |
| 23:23.47 | DrodoEmpire | *ing |
| 23:23.52 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry for the late response |
| 23:23.54 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 23:30.56 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/yomsdelayoms/videos/782924968483941/?permPage=1 |
| 23:31.38 | Hachiman | Newfound aspirations have been found |
| 23:31.44 | Hachiman | Or acquired, rather |
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| 23:41.56 | Hachiman | "Well, you know what? It's grown on me. Like having a rotting corpse in your house, but the corpse of a tree, you know? It's kinda badass. Dead and humiliated even further by hanging ornaments all over it like "fuck you."" - Nathan Explosion on the brutality of Christmas Trees |
| 23:42.39 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 23:44.27 | Xho | Well now you put it that way |
| 23:56.20 | Hachiman | Wormy_: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/10297868_1660174074261976_1417209688852301283_n.jpg?oh=e5d74613bb9a9212f82ca5cae0524e9f&oe=56CB9BB4 |
| 23:57.57 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 23:58.18 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Have you seen the latest story involving the cross-dresser?# |
| 23:58.39 | Hachiman | Not really, haven't paid much attention to EastEnders recently |
