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00:33.11DrodoEmpireHi everyone
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01:36.16DrodoEmpiretest
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08:34.41Wormy_I've not experienced enough cell division today.
08:36.03Liquid_InkI'm sure we can all relate
08:36.08ImperiosHi
08:36.20ImperiosSo I'm telling my communist bro about our fictionverse
08:36.22ImperiosHe likes it so far
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09:30.39ImperiosHi
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09:31.02HachimanHai
09:31.27Liquid_InkHello
09:32.03Wormy_hi
09:35.32Wormy_Hooray, clocks go back
09:35.41Wormy_More time for cell division!
09:36.06Liquid_Ink..?
09:37.16Wormy_I read somewhere that cellsa divide and restore faster during sleep.
09:37.25ImperiosHi Hachi
09:44.22Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/ZLFGq9n
09:48.06ImperiosWormy_: But we already have Trump
09:53.02Wormy_Imperios:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2015/10/21/believe-back-future-predicted-trumps-run/74359844/
09:53.04Wormy_gtg
10:11.43HachimanJust listened to a short story about the consequences of immortality and, basically, it deals with the idea of immortals eventually coming to lose their memories or having crises of identity to remain young, as immortality in the story does not equate to being ageless
10:14.11Wormy_awayHachiman:  Not an uncommon idea...  That eventually people age so much they change into new people, effectively making the older version die
10:14.44Wormy_awayI don't see anything wrong with it, in fact I'm a bit different to the self of my childhood
10:15.03Hachiman"One day, spring cleaning kicks in, and she donates the diaries and tosses the rest out. On the last page, Diane pens one, final note. "You want to know the real secret that no one tells you about becoming immortal? Eventually, you die.""
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10:15.38Hachimanhttp://dailysciencefiction.com/science-fiction/biotech/rebecca-lang/what-no-one-ever-tells-you-about-becoming-immortal The story can be read here, it's pretty insightful actually
10:15.43Wormy_awayBut perhaps the self is not a point on a cartesian plane, perhaps the self is a fuzzy space which we random walk through in iour lives.  Perhaps our fuzzy spaces overlap with other people's
10:16.00Wormy_awayExcellent sounding story
10:16.28Wormy_awayJust finished reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop
10:48.21HachimanPerhaps intentional amnesia is a potential saviour for immortals in our world once they appear
10:49.50HachimanIIRC the human mind exhausts itself with age and begins to routinely clear data and information - relevant memories and thoughts - more excessively
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11:40.02JepardiHi
11:40.42HachimanHi
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12:09.02AdmiralPandahi all
12:09.19GhelaeHello.
12:10.43HachimanHai
12:11.30HachimanSo according to Age of Sigmar's lore, the reason why Slaanesh is not a prominent Chaos God and was replaced by the Horned Rat is because he/she got fucked over by elves led by Malekith
12:11.53AdmiralPandasounds about right
12:12.01HachimanOf course the actual reason is because GW is casualizing Warhammer and wants to attract more sales by not bothering to make NSFW models anymore
12:12.12AdmiralPandaprobably
12:12.40AdmiralPandawhich does really suck, some of those models were the best
12:12.57AdmiralPandaI remember the first time I brought out Daemonettes as minis for a D&D campaign- the party fighter wanted to convert immediately
12:13.07Hachimanhur
12:13.55HachimanYes, I will miss the opportunity for GW to produce updated models disfigured hermaphrodite lobster women
12:14.13AdmiralPandaspeaking of PnP, homigod someone needs to pull me away from the chromebooks, been spending way too much time making characters
12:14.38Hachimanhur
12:15.41AdmiralPandaspeaking of, can just send me book 1 through skype or would that mess your internet up?
12:16.58HachimanShouldn't mess the internet up
12:17.06HachimanI'd send you it but I cannot find a free copy
12:17.18HachimanSo in other words, I don't have one either hur
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12:18.30WormydroidHi
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12:18.46WormydroidHello
12:19.33OluapPlayerHi
12:19.42HachimanHai
12:22.50WormydroidI kind of hope that star with the strange signature isn't alien
12:23.05HachimanWhy?
12:23.20WormydroidBecause they could wipe us out.
12:23.43OluapPlayerWhat if they're super friendly and just want to chat?
12:24.10WormydroidIf they destroy anyone who becomes sufficiently advanced...  this only has to happen once in the universe
12:24.52GhelaeBut remember, it doesn't have to be outright destruction.
12:24.56GhelaeThere's always assimilation etc.
12:25.34OluapPlayerOr they could be super friendly and just want to chat
12:25.43WormydroidI hope so
12:25.46GhelaeBut then why haven't they already called?
12:26.00HachimanThey do not have our phone number
12:26.05WormydroidA protector civilisation only needs to arise once
12:26.05OluapPlayerMaybe they're busy
12:26.28HachimanRemember that we are using hardware that is outdated probably by millennia
12:26.30OluapPlayerIf you're friendly with every alien in the galaxy, that's a lot of people to pay attention to
12:26.41GhelaeIf they're busy for 1500 years, I think that means they don't actually want to chat.
12:26.53GhelaeI think they'd just find it too awkward to explicitly reject us.
12:26.55WormydroidMy friend reckons they already know its alien and are going to get us used to the news
12:27.37OluapPlayerThey must have gotten insulted with all the "ayy lmao" jokes and decided to ignore us forever
12:27.40OluapPlayerGood going, internet
12:29.14HachimanMaybe we give the wrong impression that we do not want to talk to them because we are too shy to put ourselves out there
12:29.38AdmiralPandajust need to make you head of NASA then, you'll put out anywhere
12:31.21Hachimanyis
12:31.40HachimanIf the aliens cannot offer us hot chicks, I am sincerely not interested
12:33.06OluapPlayerI'm sure they can use their superior alien minds to learn and cook you some fried chicken
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13:56.52Monethi
13:56.54HachimanHai
13:57.20HachimanI am playing through XCOM: Enemy Within again and I am saddened by the loss of one of my prized Assault soldiers
13:57.59HachimanHis name was Dong "Spitfire" Deng and I had paired him up consistently with another Assault soldier from the very start of the campaign whenever I could
13:58.44HachimanHe died during my first encounter with Mutons
13:59.00MonetBy a Plasma rifle I take it.
13:59.05HachimanYeah
13:59.39HachimanHe had scored 16 kills and had participated in 11 Missions
14:01.02HachimanHis partner, a woman called Angeliki "All Day" Antinos, was the first soldier I gave Laser weapons and an Arc Thrower to after manufacturing them
14:01.02HachimanAnd incidentally, the first alien she managed to capture was a Muton
14:01.16MonetMay their saacrifice inspire their companions ot victory.
14:03.45MonetThey shall not be forgotten.
14:04.11HachimanEspecially with a name like Dong
14:05.25MonetI really like the idea behind the XCOM series
14:05.56MonetHave you seen the intro to the original 90s game?
14:06.12HachimanI haven't
14:06.58MonetLemme find it.
14:07.43AdmiralPandaI like the XCOM series, what I hate is the fact that more often than not, you get screwed over purely by RNG rather than you making mistakes
14:08.37Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX0Cm3N_n6k
14:08.52AdmiralPandafunny you bring it up because I was playing it the last few days, I finally ragequit when, despite having enough capacity to launch four satellites at once, such were the missions offered to me that I couldn't even get one of the six panicking cities out of the red in 20 days
14:09.52HachimanYeah it's kinda dum
14:09.59AdmiralPandaI even got a panic reduction council mission in Europe, and all of europe was one panic bar and completely satellited
14:10.28AdmiralPandaif that mission was in literally any of the other continents except central america I would have been fine, but no
14:11.10MonetXCOM aliens: RUninging your day since 1994
14:11.17MonetRuining*
14:11.23AdmiralPandaup until that point it'd been a perfect run- no failed missions, no lost troopers, but I got screwed over by mission allocation
14:12.36MonetThat looks to me like RNG disguised as the aliens being clever shits.
14:13.40AdmiralPandamhm, like I've said before on the matter of RNG in games- I don't mind things like Warhammer 40'000 where the outcome of actions is determined by RNG, what I don't like is things like card games where the options available are determined by RNG
14:14.16AdmiralPandaespecially when all of those options are equally shit :P
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14:19.35AdmiralPandaah well, at least Irina Petrova, my first Mec-Trooper, went 5-0 in the world's first interplanetary boxing match
14:19.50AdmiralPandafour mechtoids and a muton berserker
14:21.09AdmiralPandaalso Durand doesn't have nearly enough innuendo lines to be a female french character in a videogame
14:21.11HachimanJesus
14:21.18Hachimanhur
14:21.37HachimanThat reminds me, I need to work towards fielding a MEC
14:21.43AdmiralPandaalso she sounds a helluva lot like Fiora
14:21.48AdmiralPandayou don't have a MEC yet?
14:22.26AdmiralPandaI mean I know my priorities are skewed but you're fighting mutons and you haven't built a MEC
14:22.28HachimanNot yet
14:23.07AdmiralPanda(when I say my priorities are skewed, MECs are literally the first thing I do)
14:24.05OluapPlayerwat u on about
14:24.17AdmiralPandaXCOM
14:24.18HachimanXCOM
14:24.29OluapPlayerMOCX]
14:24.45MonetOkay that is funny
14:24.49AdmiralPandaI still remember the first time I took on the alien flagship with just the volunteer (Durand of course) and her five MEC bodyguards
14:24.58HachimanJesus
14:25.09AdmiralPandamy regular squad is 6 MECs tbh
14:25.36AdmiralPandaright up until I get the psi armour at which point psykers become fun to use again
14:25.48HachimanYeah, MECs make largely everything else kinda redundant
14:26.07AdmiralPandaeh not really, I just enjoy MECs greatly
14:26.28AdmiralPandaarchangel sniper with In the Zone like what?
14:26.50Hachimanhur
14:27.25AdmiralPandawhich funnily enough is what my MECs tend to spend their time doing when not punching things- clearing cover for the sniper to dome people
14:28.56AdmiralPandaon an unrelated note, I don't understand how you make a female character named "Nightsass" and not expect people to pronounce it "Night's ass"
14:29.06AdmiralPandaor as it's now become, "Nice-ass"
14:30.47Hachimanolol
14:31.17AdmiralPandathe real question is, do I hate myself enough to attempt an ironman game, naming my soldiers after you lovely people so I can tell you how you all died horribly
14:34.21HachimanI would say yes, yes you do
14:34.55AdmiralPandaglad to see I can always turn to you for positive reinforcement :P
14:38.42AdmiralPandaalrighty, here we go
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14:42.25HachimanHai
14:42.34XhoHIYAAAH
14:43.23MonetHello
14:44.33AdmiralPandaok, so who wants to be an assault?
14:44.44HachimanI do
14:44.53AdmiralPandacongratulations, you are now Greek
14:45.08XhoObligatory Spartan war cry
14:45.16OluapPlayerspu
14:45.19Xhou
14:46.40AdmiralPandaooh hey I've got an aussie for once
14:56.12AdmiralPandaand Hachi is officially a coward
14:57.23OluapPlayerJust like in real life
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14:58.17HachimanEch
15:00.27AdmiralPandahi, you're a coward ^.^
15:00.40Hachimanhur
15:02.58AdmiralPandaone of your squaddies got shot and your immediate first response was to freak out and try to shoot one of your other squadmates
15:06.38AdmiralPandayou did somewhat redeem yourself that mission though
15:06.48OluapPlayerNothing to do, may as well go back to my game
15:06.59AdmiralPanda3 kills, nothing else to say really
15:07.03HachimanHuh sweet
15:16.25AdmiralPandameanwhile the heavy is just quadra kill like what
15:16.40AdmiralPandaafter being hit for 7 out of her 8 damage
15:17.47AdmiralPandaok so apparently my aussie soldier convinced his brother to join up
15:18.17AdmiralPandaalso, anyone want to be a support?
15:19.47XhoYeah why not
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15:21.51AdmiralPandaXho is now Polish everyone
15:22.00OfficerJackalk
15:22.12AdmiralPandaI love how he doesn't even question it
15:22.19AdmiralPandathe he being Jackal
15:22.41MonetAdmiralPanda: Maybe they both did similarly well on their aptitude tests
15:22.48MonetAlso I'd like to reserve a sniper.
15:23.08AdmiralPandaMonet: The original aussie was in my initial squad, the second I got from an abduction mission. Also, any problems with being a woman?
15:23.12OfficerJackalAdmiralPanda: Hey, what happens happens. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:24.22HachimanXho is now Polish eh
15:24.32HachimanNever thought he would come to dominate the kebab and tobacco market
15:24.34MonetAdmiralPanda: Eh sure why not
15:24.47AdmiralPandaMonet is also now Polish and a woman
15:26.17XhoKURWA
15:27.57MonetEquality ftw.
15:28.13XhoREMOVE KURWA
15:29.24AdmiralPandaaaand Hachi just got a promotion for disobeying a direct order... figures
15:30.00Hachimanhur
15:30.28AdmiralPandaI told you to wing the damn sectoid and you blow its brains out
15:30.57XhoWell I'm bored
15:30.59HachimanIt looked at me funny
15:32.31XhoAh yeah I had an idea for the Fantasyverse earlier
15:32.39XhoI might work on that
15:34.53XhoThough it's not the most original idea I've ever had
15:35.37HachimanWhat is it?
15:35.51XhoIt's to do with Nalúnt
15:36.11XhoNow that he's back from the void he's gonna start rebuilding numbers, in other words resurrecting dead dragons
15:36.23XhoIn the form of zombified dragon chimera
15:37.07OluapPlayerAnd?
15:37.34XhoWell I was wondering if anyone wanted to create such horrors as characters
15:37.38Xhoi.e. Nalúnt's servants
15:38.44OluapPlayerI got nothing
15:38.56HachimanI'll think on it
15:39.54XhoThen miniboss fights everywhere because evil zombies
15:40.19AdmiralPandaah precision explosives, whose arses can't you save
15:40.36GhelaeDoes this include all kelodhres or just True Dragons?
15:40.44XhoJust True Dragons
15:40.54AdmiralPandaalso Monet you need to get your eyes checked, apparently a dustbin is enough to stop you from seeing an alien rape monster
15:41.06XhoI doubt Nalúnt would concern himself with anything less
15:41.17HachimanShe is pretending she does not see it
15:41.41MonetHere in ENgland we just call them bins.
15:41.57MonetDustbins sometimes.
15:43.06MonetXho: Sounds interesting but I've been inactive from the fantasyverse for ages.
15:43.26XhoI'm kind of tentative on the idea since it's basically Alduin resurrecting dragons
15:43.39XhoThough it makes sense in the setting
15:44.12AdmiralPandamy hatred of undead makes me approve of the idea but my inability to care about the fantasyverse makes me unable to care
15:54.58AdmiralPandaoutsider captured
15:58.24AdmiralPandawell, Hachi's dead because the aliens have managed to crit every single fucking bullet they fire
15:58.59HachimanJesus
15:59.18AdmiralPandawell you actually died becuase the floater hit you for 6 then a seeker jumped you
15:59.33AdmiralPandabut still, every single hit my troops have taken so far has been a crit for 6 or 7 damage
16:01.07MonetNice
16:02.03AdmiralPandathat was hits taken
16:02.10AdmiralPandaas in those hits have been making people nearly die
16:02.20AdmiralPandaspeaking of, you've now come within one health of dying every single mission you've deployed on
16:02.53AdmiralPandawait hang on, it wasn't Hachi, it was the aussie ;-;
16:05.07Hachimankek
16:07.47AdmiralPandaat first I was pissed that I'm getting BSed so much, now I'm just sad cos I lost an aussie
16:08.04AdmiralPandaand yes, I do value the life of an australian comprised entirely of computer code more than I value Hachi
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16:11.47HachimanDoesn't surprise me hur
16:16.01AdmiralPandaI'm pretty sure Monet just said Kurwa while throwing a grenade
16:20.36AdmiralPandaalmost got skeleton suits so we might have less deaths shortly
16:21.26MonetShe could be saying "Eat shit!"
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16:23.50AdmiralPandabtw Monet at some point I'm going to find you a new you because I accidentally hit snap shot instead of squadsight so I'm gonna turn the pole into a mec and find you a new you
16:29.09MonetI'm fine with that
16:39.40AdmiralPandaHachi has had the great honour of sacrificing himself for the greater cause of stunning a thin man
16:40.14AdmiralPandawait no, he's ok, the poison ran out just in time
16:46.46HachimanSo many close calls hur
16:56.27AdmiralPandaat some point I'm probably going to turn you into a mec as well
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17:00.37Monethi
17:00.52AdmiralPandaalrighty well I'm gonna pass ou
17:00.53AdmiralPandaout*
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17:16.02WormydroidHi
17:16.42WormydroidWho's here?
17:16.59HachimanMe
17:17.10WormydroidCan't see the side panel
17:17.16XhoUh
17:17.19GhelaeHello. Quite a lot of people are here.
17:17.22XhoI take it everyone knows the Spore servers are back
17:18.25Ghelaechecks spore.com
17:18.33GhelaeI do now.
17:18.35XhoWell I just logged in on Spore
17:18.57WormydroidI knew
17:20.15XhoI can't remember what I was going to make in Spore now
17:21.07XhoOh yeah I remember now
17:28.27WormydroidTalking about lab grown meat > end up discussibg Beyonce bum burgers being a thing
17:29.58WormydroidEat your favourite star
17:30.12TekDroidO.o
17:36.23MonetWatching a clip from the American version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire I realise that in terms of comparative value, the British Millionaire winners earn more.
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17:38.57Monet:ole one-and-a-half-times as much.
17:38.57MonetHi
17:39.25HellrockHello.
17:39.39WormydroidFascinating
17:41.04Monetlike one*
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17:52.25dino82_hello all
17:52.52OluapPlayerHi
17:56.16dino82_how is allz doing?
17:56.24dino82_@Oluap: Nice picture of Err with the demon!
17:56.50OluapPlayerThanks
17:57.23dino82_:d
17:59.20HachimanhOI DINO!!
17:59.54OluapPlayeru no temmie
18:01.20WormydroidStop pretending to be DINO!
18:01.34WormydroidHi
18:01.52GhelHello.
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18:03.29DrodoEmpireHi everyone
18:03.40WormydroidHey up
18:06.47OluapPlayerI went to look for creatures I could share now that the servers are back
18:06.56OluapPlayerTurns out my options are very limited
18:07.06OluapPlayerAnd by that I mean I could only share 2 creatures
18:07.08WormydroidOh?
18:07.24OluapPlayer2 out of the gazillion things I made during the down period
18:07.32WormydroidNo bot parts?
18:07.33OluapPlayerI've been using too much C&C and Dark Injection
18:07.50WormydroidOh I see
18:08.32dino82_Hello Hachi!
18:08.38WormydroidMight a lack of Sporepedia changed your habits?
18:08.56dino82_Anything going on on the wiki? Any gigaquadrantic political intrigues?
18:09.00OluapPlayerNot really, I've always used restricted parts
18:09.11OluapPlayerNot really, but Spore's servers are back up
18:09.20dino82_Really? Now that is widely good news!
18:09.26dino82_At last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:09.33WormydroidIndeed
18:10.55dino82_Finally able tou pload buildings then again and a good news for the various spore communities on our wikia and on Dev
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18:13.58Wormydroid_Spluttering seaweed
18:14.19Xhohttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=541009235 Fallout in a nutshell
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18:18.57The_RandomnessHello
18:18.58Wormydroid_Hey up
18:19.38dino82_hi
18:21.15XhoMonet: Wanna play some Ark
18:22.28MonetXho: Give me a couple of minutes
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18:58.48CyrannianHi
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19:00.01infobotno
19:00.47OluapPlayermake cold war paeg
19:09.08OluapPlayerTechnobliterator Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjGXbPRoQa8
19:09.34Hachimanolol
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19:10.23OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxGDMRaE-8 alternatively
19:10.35HachimanOhgod
19:10.36Wormydroid_So I went to this tech fair today and realised our generation - those born in the 90s are fucked
19:10.39HachimanMy fucking sides
19:10.55HachimanWormydroid: I already came to that conclusion but please do continue
19:12.24Wormydroid_kids today are assimilating media andbprogramming in a way that leaves us in the dust, so any of us in media will have a hard time keeping up
19:12.50MonetOh so you mean our generation is going to be the next "ye dern kids with ya gadgets" generation?
19:13.10OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re7PxL88iqE YOU WILL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE
19:13.15Wormydroid_Furthermore, the generatipn prebious to ours had a more hands on experience with the world, withput monocoddlibg, and grew up quicker than us
19:14.43Wormydroid_We in the West at least are a lost generation, without homes or families our parenys were makibg at our age
19:15.52Wormydroid_I think we can keep up with the digital world but it will be harf
19:15.52Wormydroid_hard
19:16.23Wormydroid_The biotech revolution will leave us and the next generation behind completely
19:19.33OluapPlayerhttps://i.imgur.com/u8vBe9B.webm this is how you deal with Metal Man Cows
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19:25.14WormydroidHi
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19:31.16The_RandomnessWormydroid: That's reassuring
19:44.07WormydroidWe live in an age where 18 month year old children can turn off airplane mode and do rhinhs grpwn ups can't
19:47.52The_RandomnessGenerally grown-ups are much older than the sort of people you were talking about.
19:48.36The_RandomnessThat sounds more like my father, who neither grew up very exposed to technology, nor has he made too much of an effort to improve his abilities beyond what is needed for his daily life.
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20:30.29GhelaeHello.
20:30.49TheImperiosHachiman: http://cs624420.vk.me/v624420698/4d2fc/nAfmD03snMw.jpg
20:31.10Hachimanhnngh
20:31.22TheImperios?
20:31.44HachimanI like it hur
20:32.33Hachimandis is y eldar r allowd 2 be vain
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20:39.48Xhohttp://www.iflscience.com/space/ghostly-exoplanet-volcanic-hell-deep-space
21:47.02XhoNot much love for the hellish exoplanet I see
21:48.29The_RandomnessJust read the article, doesn't seem to be terribly interesting other than a really hot tidally locked planet
21:49.07XhoIt's a chaotic planet of death
21:49.10XhoHow is that not interesting
21:49.17HachimanWe already have Venus
21:49.23HachimanAn acidic wasteland in itself
21:50.15HachimanI await the day where mankind can establish floating cities in Venus' atmosphere above the acid clouds
21:50.19GhelaeMost planets are planets of death. Just a lot of them are non-chaotic planets of death.
21:50.30The_RandomnessIndeed
21:51.50XhoWhat exactly could we harvest from Venus anyway
21:52.16XhoI guess geothermal energy
21:52.27XhoBut it wouldn't be much use cross-planetary
21:52.43XhoUnless you could store geothermically generated power
21:52.44The_RandomnessI personally think that colonies on the Moon would be more viable and practical
21:52.57GhelaeVenus has nicer gravity.
21:53.01The_RandomnessTrue
21:54.21GhelaeIn fact, I think we're not being ambitious enough.
21:54.28GhelaeAfter the Moon, Mars and Venus, we should colonise the sun.
21:54.41GhelaeI'm sure we'll figure out a way to do it.
21:54.45The_RandomnessNow we're talking
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21:55.33HellrockHello everyone.
21:55.40The_RandomnessHello
21:55.50GhelaeHello.
21:55.55XhoWell you'd have to deal with the insane temperature, gravitational pull, magnetic madness and solar flares among other things
21:56.24GhelaeEngineering issues. We'll find a way around them.
21:56.27The_RandomnessHmm, let me check what the Sun's local gravity would be outside of the atmosphere
21:57.12XhoThough wouldn't it be better to put a Dyson Sphere around the Sun rather than colonise it
21:57.25XhoIn a sane world anyway
21:57.33The_RandomnessYou're thinking too much in practical terms
21:57.35HachimanColonising the Sun would cut out the Dyson Sphere middle man
21:57.46OluapPlayerJust do it during the night
21:57.54Xhodoi
21:57.56The_Randomnessgenius
21:58.03Hachimanaw yis
21:59.01GhelaeYou just lack ambition; that's your problem.
21:59.12The_RandomnessOh, the gravitational acceleration right at the Sun's "surface" is really high
21:59.12HachimanXho: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10345849_916274121796078_3516291971764525786_n.jpg?oh=cd8357d91318c562770eb7ae5661d8e7&oe=56CE9EC8
21:59.21Xhohih
21:59.26The_Randomnesslike, 27x that of Earth
21:59.55GhelaeIf we can colonise our sun, we can colonise red dwarfs. If we can colonise red dwarfs, we're sorted for the next trillion years.
22:00.15GhelaeThen why stop there? Let's colonise black holes too.
22:01.16XhoThat's some Type III stuff there
22:04.26GhelaeType III? That's not enough. We need to colonise something even heavier and more dense than a black hole...
22:04.34GhelaeYOUR MOTHER
22:04.37GhelaeSorry, that was uncalled for.
22:04.46The_Randomnessu wot m8
22:05.18GhelaeSee, this is why I shouldn't talk science at 11pm.
22:07.25HachimanI think Ghel is malfunctioning
22:07.31The_Randomness^
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22:21.37MonetCrap I think I might be getting initial cold symptoms.
22:23.26HachimanOuch
22:26.47MonetYeah. Ouch. Because I heave a project stage deadline in two weeks.
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22:26.58Wormy_Hello
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22:30.09The_RandomnessHello
22:31.34Wormy_space is full of weird shit
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22:42.21Zillafire101Hey everyone.
22:51.09Monethi
22:54.20Wormy_I might have been a bit pessimistic earlier
22:54.51Wormy_One thing I remembered after my rant is that schools teach you what to think, not how to think.
22:55.36Wormy_These kids will be very adept with the digital world, and will find it intuitivewly easier, perhaps more than us.  But they still need knowledge and skills
22:55.58Wormy_And so we may be teaching them one day
22:57.43Wormy_I also forgot I know ca man in his 40s more adept in the latest tech than I am
22:58.10Wormy_He can control lights and temperature in his house from his blumbing phone
22:58.19Wormy_Ultra-geek
22:58.31Wormy_*phone at work; I should add
23:00.28Wormy_Anyway, at rthis tech festical I saw all manner of new tech and retro, dating even back to the 19th century
23:00.47Wormy_In a way I found the older stuff more interesting
23:01.27Wormy_Machines from the Industrisal Revolution are so elegant and still work.
23:01.44MonetSo the situation of "hold everything, someone's wron on the internet" could get worse?
23:01.56Monetwrong*
23:02.46Wormy_But there were also 3D printers, laser cutters, and all manner of "hacker" communities who turned up, showing their DIY robots and hacked machines:  a 1982 PC which displays Twitter tweets, and hacked toys
23:03.35Wormy_I'm not sure could you describe that a little more?
23:08.29Monet"hold on someone's wrong on the internet" = when you sink time because someone somewhere on Internet states something that you disagree with. I'm wondering if the schools' tendencies to teach what to think rather than how to think would mean more people end up doing it.
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23:10.04Zillafire101Hello again all.
23:10.46HachimanI will never get over how awesome it is to see MEC Troopers using the Kinetic Strike Module to wrestle with Mechtoids and Berserkers
23:11.07HachimanI was just in a mission where I was attacked by what, four Berserkers and their Muton escorts
23:11.09Wormy_Ah I see, quite poissibly.  But I think part of growing up gives us those life skills in the end
23:12.22Wormy_Colleges abd universities werealways about teaching us how to think, but commercialisation might be changing that.
23:13.25Wormy_Instead students are "customers", and unions have the power to stop people who's opinions they don't like from having talks.
23:13.34Zillafire101I'm off to play Battlefront 2. Wish it was still canon.
23:15.17MonetZilla_SW: The only people who say its all non-canon is Disney. You still have groups like BioWare making great Star Wars EU stuff
23:16.01Zilla_SWEh, maybe. I'm still sore about the whole thing though.
23:16.08Wormy_I don't really give much to what Disney says
23:16.39Zilla_SWThey've managed to produce one emotion I've never thought I'd have towards star war. Indifference.
23:16.45Wormy_I feel that Legends could fit into the new EU as well, "legends", with some truth.
23:17.18Wormy_Especially if galactic society has broken down in the films.
23:18.19MonetI wonder if this might have been popularised by the MCU
23:19.05MonetStar Wars may have started it, but the MCU created something of a rebirth in the idea that films could show massive multimedia universes.
23:19.14Wormy_In a way I look forward to see what new content is made, especially tech.  Though I fear the movies will be a mess up and the new canon filtered by Disney less diverse.  But that is my feeling, not necessarily the truth
23:20.02Wormy_Maybe
23:20.28MonetThe MCU certainly made DC think "hey we could try that"
23:20.54Wormy_I noticed the theme music went very MCU in the trailer when the Millenium Falcon was in hyperspace
23:21.11Wormy_Or Star Trek, owing to JJ Abrams
23:21.26MonetI mean right now the Marvel Films are respecting the stuff going on in Daredevil, Agents of SHIELD and vice versa.
23:21.58Wormy_Do you think when Marvel acquire the rightws to X-men, we could see them in the MCU?
23:21.59MonetThere have been a couple of Agents of SHIELD episodes that expanded stuff that went on in the movies.
23:22.44MonetI don't think we're getting MCU X-Men, but word is Sony are planning on giving up their Spider Man license.
23:23.18MonetWhich is good because in the original Civil War story, Spider Man played a notable role.
23:23.41Wormy_yeah
23:24.44TekDroidX-men is still very much profitable for Sony. Unlike the hits and misses you get with Spiderman
23:25.17MonetThe MCU has adopted the term "enhanced" to refer to mutantkind.
23:28.10Wormy_I do admit, the X-men do follow a different narrative to the rest.
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23:29.52Wormy_hi
23:30.13Liquid_InkHello
23:30.22Wormy_Although I do have this great Marvel comic, that has no limits on what superhero groups appear.
23:30.51Wormy_I find all the different universes a bit confusing for my taste
23:31.40MonetWhat's the comic's name?
23:32.26MonetRule of thumb with the Marvel universe is that Universe-616 is the Prime Universe.
23:33.29Wormy_I'll find it
23:38.23MonetThere was one alternate universe portrayed in the Age of Ultron series caused by Wolverine killing Hank Pym to prevent the rise of Ultron.
23:39.40MonetIn that timeline however, Hank was thought to have been killed by Skrulls and a long chaiin of events and a convenient attack by Enchantress in Eastern Europe leads to Tony Stark as lord-protector of the Western Hemisphere.
23:45.10Wormy_I have a bad feeling I got rid of it
23:45.35Wormy_I went through a massive culling spree of my things last year
23:45.59MonetWell no matter
23:46.32MonetHonestly Marvel's been around so long that they've done time travel and parallel universes several times
23:48.14MonetTake Kang the Conqueror for instance: A 40th century scientific genius, creates a time machine to go to Ancient Egypt to make Apocalypse his chief enforcer but is foiled by the Fantastic Four who also travel back to Ancient Egypt and end up ending his brief reign as pharaoh.
23:52.10Wormy_lol
23:52.53MonetCan't remember why the F4 went back to that specific point in time.
23:54.55Wormy_grrr http://imgur.com/gallery/qIXkq
23:56.27MonetCalls reader a nerd -> uses wrong colour flame for a bunsen burner in use
23:57.47MonetActually that's somewhat jarring
23:58.18Wormy_Wow, yes you are right
23:58.26HachimanFUCK
23:58.36HachimanGoddamn Assault soldier killed the Sectoid Commander
23:58.42Wormy_Now its not so funny
23:58.54MonetLots of nicely-shaded science equipment, and yet there's a cartoony flame
23:59.35Wormy_If its nerd tricking nerd, its funny.  If its ignorant tricking nerd, thats something-else

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