IRC log for #sporewiki on 20151022

00:23.18Wormy_drom__ Liquid_Ink:  Jaws 19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl092whRLlI
00:33.53Monet19 films and they still can't make it real enough.
00:37.31Monetgoodnight
00:37.53DrodoEmpireNight
00:37.54DrodoEmpire:3
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15:56.00Wormy_awaydrom_
16:02.43drom_plz no
16:35.44drom_Wormy_away Charles_Murray: Feel free to give me ideas to develop the NS history for 32 000 years in Bunsen galaxy before migrating to Andromeda, Milky and Cyrannus
16:36.01drom_And if Knight_Alien comes on, please show him that too!
16:36.10drom_brb
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16:47.17HachimanHai
16:50.06GhelaeHello.
16:51.04OluapPlayerew shoo
17:08.30TekDroidO.o You can make relativistic impactors in Universe Sandbox 2 and it's terrifyingly interesting. XD
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17:40.33ImperiosHello
17:40.39GhelaeHello.
17:40.42HachimanHi
17:43.07Wormy_awayLol a new Dad's Army film https://twitter.com/universaluk/status/657058274726928384
17:54.12Tek0516So I had a random thought while we were talking about planet destroyers yesterday. I wondered if you were to take a body (planet or moon) with geological activity and cracked its crust to melt the surface, then tried to use that resulting heat emission to raise the temperature of its nearby cold planet/moon to make it habitable.
17:55.05GhelaeDo you mean just by thermal radiation from the molten surface, or are you planning to transfer the energy there by some other means?
17:55.14OluapPlayerHi
17:55.29Tek0516The thermal radiation.
17:56.09Wormy_away"Kylo Ren holding Vader's burnt helmet. Removes his."
17:56.12Wormy_away"Two fish ears plop out."
17:56.19Wormy_away"Meesa gonna avenge you, Ani."
17:56.28GhelaeFirstly, the power is going to radiate in all directions and so the power flux is going to fall off proportionately to r^-2.
17:57.05GhelaeSecondly, the peak power for black-body radiation is a good approximation for how that thermal energy is going to be turned into temperature upon absorption by the moon.
17:57.20GhelaeIn that case, power is proportional to T^4.
17:58.03GhelaeSo, essentially, the temperature of any object heated by the thermal radiation of the planet is going to decrease by the eighth power of distance from the source.
17:58.16Tek0516Obviously it's not the most efficient method.
17:58.54TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, a thing I read from Kojima recently
17:58.54Ghelae...Actually, that seems to be a little too extreme fall-off. But the point is that it's not going to work unless your moon is so close to the planet it's not really going to be able to orbit.
17:59.03Wormy_awayActually this would be a good question to ask, the effect of the Moon's still molten surface on the Earth during the Hadean.
17:59.05OluapPlayerwat
17:59.19TechnobliteratorOne contrast he made in the game was that, while the other characters all lose limbs, Huey is the only one who actually gained the ability to walk since Peace Walker
17:59.57GhelaeYeah, the T^4 decrease there is counteracted with a T^4 increase in temperature of planet -> power of thermal radiation.
18:00.24GhelaeBut the r^-2 fall-off is still going to make the temperature increase on the moon really small.
18:00.49GhelaeI have an equation from my atmospheric physics notes, actually...
18:01.13Tek0516Yeah, I figured it probably wouldn't be much. It was more a random hypothetical than anything serious.
18:02.13Wormy_awayI think using space mirrors to focus the energy onto a cold moon is a better method - or focusing a loit of energy from the star onto a moon so that it heats a planet.
18:02.26GhelaeTm = temperature of moon, Tp = temperature of planet surface, d = distance between moon and planet, r is radius of planet, and R is reflectivity of moon. Then:
18:02.48GhelaeTm = Sqrt(r/d) * [(1-R)/4]^1/4 * Tp
18:03.24GhelaeThe derivation isn't too long but IRC is a terrible place for equations.
18:03.49GhelaeIf, as Wormy says, you use mirrors to focus the energy, then you alleviate the r^-2 dependence.
18:04.04GhelaeYou can also increase the temperature a little via greenhouse effect, if the moon can hold an atmosphere.
18:05.43Wormy_awayTbh, unless the values are very extreme, I doubt you can expect much.  The Earth's moon even 3.9 billion years ago was a lot closer, and was still thought to be molten from a large impact.   Excitingly, I've found fresh news that biogenic carbon existed 4.1 billion years ago http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/10/14/1517557112.full.pdf
18:06.05Wormy_awayAnd there is other evidences of water on Earth's surface either further back.
18:06.12GhelaeI've heard about that. It might not be biogenic, but it's not certain it isn't either.
18:07.55Wormy_awayYes potentially
18:09.29Wormy_awayZircons are about our only hope to find evidence of life or water on Earth from as far as four billion years ago, so we'll have to make do with such sources
18:10.03Wormy_awayUnless we find some of Earth's older rocks elsewhere in the solar system
18:19.47Wormy_awayImperios http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34606799
18:21.21Wormy_awayhuh http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20151021-we-went-hunting-for-trolls-and-found-a-deeper-truth
18:23.57Wormy_awayFast Radio Bursts, EM drives, duck shaped comets, briny water on Mars, blue skies on Pluto, dyson swarms, ancient life, trolls, whatever next?
18:24.15Wormy_away*knows some are probably errors or uncertainties
18:30.02ImperiosDear god that YouTube comment
18:30.05Imperios"You think the USSR could take on Imperial Japan? Didn't the Japanese destroy the Russian fleet like twice?"
18:39.41Tek0516If the march to Moscow was bad, imagine how bad the march across the entirety of Siberia would be.
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18:48.43dromhai
18:49.42Tek0516Hello
18:51.43dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/KDj7zER.png
18:53.00Tek0516Lol
18:56.33Hachiman"DO YOU WANNA NETFLIX AND CHILL OR DO YOU WANNA IMAX AND CLIMAX"
18:57.10Imperiosdrom: I actually see myself in this
19:01.34drom"Cofiwch Dryweryn"
19:01.43dromRemember Tryweryn
19:08.31dromContext: In 1956, Liverpool and Wirral wanted to build a water reservoir, the reservoir is called "Llyn Ceyln", which was formerly a Welsh town which the parlament passed a bill, in 1957, through direct action. Despite the massive protests and 99% of Welsh MPs opposing it (the other 1% was absent, didn't vote), the town Capel Celyn was reduced down to the ground and then the valley where the town located was flooded in 1965. 48 of 67 who lived there
19:08.31dromlost their homes.
19:10.46dromPlus, 8 buildings weren't demolished, they were instead submerged
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19:29.17DrodoEmpireHey everyone
20:00.17OluapPlayerImperios: You there?
20:00.22ImperiosYa
20:00.37OluapPlayerCan you upload those PNG pics now? You're kinda making me wait
20:05.51dromCyrannian: I just got reminded that we got an unfinished business. The NS-NGm conflict
20:13.14OluapPlayerI'll take that as a no
20:34.58Wormy_awayHachiman:  https://twitter.com/NorthernerLogic/status/644245605665996800  https://twitter.com/NorthernerLogic/status/652854623191986177
20:35.41HachimanA Greggs drive-through would be the best
20:36.53dromHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/Scrapbook#Sovereignty_History
20:36.53Wormy_awayhttps://twitter.com/NorthernerLogic/status/643133572304388096
20:36.56dromops
20:37.01dromstupid copy link
20:37.12dromHachiman: Anyway, here's the link https://twitter.com/SouthernerIogic/status/647070526725320704
20:37.29OluapPlayerhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/37/ErrrAvatar.png/revision/latest?cb=20151022203640 big deemun
20:37.40HachimanFunny because as a southerner, it's true
20:37.54HachimanOoh nice
20:38.29HachimanNot gonna lie, that pic reminds me just a bit of JoJo hur
20:38.29Wormy_away"The average Northerner has at least 23 teaspoons in the sink at any one time"
20:38.43OluapPlayerfuk ur ghey animu
20:38.44Wormy_awayTrue of my house
20:39.03HachimanEccentric man posing while an imposing spirit thing postures behind him
20:42.45Wormy_away#ThingsNorthernPeopleDontSay "'Chips, cheese and gravy? That sounds disgusting!'"
20:43.02Wormy_awaydon't forget the mushy peas
20:43.14Wormy_awayOh wait, that's just Nottingham
20:43.23OluapPlayerhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/96/Avatar_of_the_Devourer.png/revision/latest?cb=20151022204306 the demon without Errr
20:43.54OluapPlayerThe fingers were made from limb parts, and I actually thought of giving it 4 arms, but the sheer amount of limbs was making the game bug out
20:46.04HachimanJesus those hands
20:46.16HachimanThat is a really good model
21:01.20OluapPlayerCyrannian: I just realized the background of the main Unexpected Adventure picture is a zoomed in Gorf face
21:01.26OluapPlayer[screams internally]
21:01.31Wormy_awayTechnobliterator:  It is Chantal http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:206292
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21:24.18DrodoEmpireHey
21:25.33Monethi
21:48.34ImperiosOluapPlayer: He looks like the very first shu
21:48.41ImperiosThe legless one
21:49.45OluapPlayerI suppose, but that was not intentional
21:50.18ImperiosThe original Shu was the best design-wise
21:50.27ImperiosHe had that unique look
21:52.04HachimanYour opinion is as shit as your connection
21:52.09OluapPlayerhur
21:52.15TechnobliteratorWormy_, I don't really care either way, but you may be better off asking other people first
21:52.52Wormy_I'm saying to him its not my descision, but the community's
21:52.54TechnobliteratorI am mostly concerned that he's not stopped speaking about "the FNAF immigrants"
21:53.01Wormy_yeah
21:53.26Technobliteratorthough I do definitely know how stupid FNAF wiki users are so I'll grant him that
21:53.31Technobliteratormy friend is the head bcrat there
21:53.41Technobliteratorand she always gives stories about the stupidity of their users
21:53.46MonetI feel sorry for them.
21:54.25TechnobliteratorI feel sorry for them because their wiki is the prime target of hackers
21:54.44Wormy_I don't mind Chantal apologising to External and possibly making an appeal, so let Chantal do that
21:55.00OluapPlayerThe FNAF people are not even here anymore
21:55.04Technobliteratorand has been destroyed by hackers so many times it's kind of ridiculous
21:55.06OluapPlayerI've not seen them editing in months
21:56.49Technobliteratorugh
21:56.53Technobliteratorjohn cena jokes are so old
21:57.02Technobliteratortalk about most overused meme on the planet
21:57.03Hachimannon
21:57.03OluapPlayerFinally, someone who agrees with me
21:57.13OluapPlayerThey were bad from the start
21:57.20HachimanI think you will find Pepe is both older and more overused
21:57.28HachimanLeave John Cena alone, he is the Champ
21:57.38OluapPlayerAnd even shittier, doesn't excuse jack
21:57.46Technobliteratorat the start it was just some crazy in-joke that no one understood
21:57.51Technobliteratorlater, everyone claimed to understand it
21:58.03Technobliteratornow it's just used everywhere and it's just ugggggggggh
21:58.24OluapPlayerWhy can't people use good memes
21:58.29OluapPlayerLike the big guy for us all
21:58.40HachimanIf you say Loss I swear to God
21:58.56OluapPlayerBit of a stretch there
21:59.02Wormy_dank mems
21:59.09OluapPlayerngh
21:59.15OluapPlayerThe word dank is awful too
21:59.28Hachimaninb4 fam smh
21:59.43OluapPlayerI'm going to ban you
21:59.46Wormy_"bae" gets on my nerves
21:59.56HachimanI will say that "tbf", "fam", "bae", "smh", gets on my nerves
22:00.10OluapPlayer200% [TRIGGERED]
22:01.29OluapPlayerNow I got reminded of something I saw a while ago, this guy had a filter which replaced all instances of "MLP" or "pony" to "Nazi"
22:01.41Wormy_http://rs1img.memecdn.com/dead-in-peace-dank-memes_o_4320293.jpg
22:01.56Hachiman404
22:01.57Technobliterator"bae" gets on my nerves more than any word added to the dictionary of late
22:02.13OluapPlayerI don't see that often enough to mind
22:02.20OluapPlayerBut "fam" though
22:02.30OluapPlayerI HATE that expression so much
22:02.42TechnobliteratorIt might be more of a thing on social media than just general internet forums, though
22:02.57TechnobliteratorI'm used to the word "fam" because, well, I heard it so often where I'm from anyway
22:03.05HachimanPeople on forums use it to mock people on social media
22:03.22Technobliteratorwell people on social media are just as easy to mock as people on forums
22:03.25OluapPlayerIronic shitposting is still shitposting
22:03.41Technobliteratormhm
22:03.42HachimanAnd yeah, "fam" is a thing said by chavs and the like in my county too
22:03.59TechnobliteratorIt mostly just adds to the cringey-ness of the world
22:04.30OluapPlayerLess of the world and more of the current web society
22:04.47OluapPlayerEven the word meme itself is becoming something pejorative
22:05.03Technobliteratorwhen I see people posting stuff like
22:05.08Technobliterator"not enough dank memes"
22:05.13TechnobliteratorI'm just like
22:05.16Technobliterator.______.
22:05.16Wormy_I love how memes have made us meme our most hated memes just now.
22:05.25OluapPlayerstop dis
22:05.49Technobliteratorthe internet was just a social experiment
22:06.00Technobliteratorto see how fast it would take mankind to prove it is inherently stupid
22:06.35OluapPlayerHumankind has always been filled with fuckups, it's surprising we got as far as we did
22:07.18Technobliteratorboth surprising and pretty impressive
22:07.20MonetWe're as good at not dying off as we are at not killign each other.
22:08.45Tek0516Yeah, we don't go extinct easily. Even when we massacre each other somebody stays alive on at least one side
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22:08.47OluapPlayer_Fucking ugh
22:09.54MonetThat and the Internet's biggest flaw imo is the anonymity we gain makes people think they can act free of social graces without consequence.
22:10.07OluapPlayer_The only social media I use is Twitter, and I don't really come across too much bad things
22:10.13OluapPlayer_Might be because I don't follow any retards
22:10.43Wormy_The thing also, is that the internet is made up of media ghettos.  During the elections, all the Labour supporters thought they were going to win.
22:11.03Wormy_The media just feeds back what we want to see
22:12.32Wormy_It has its SJWs, it has its neonazis, it has its hippies, it has its trekkies and bronies.  We think they represent large numbers of people or that one;s group represents most of the internet
22:13.41Wormy_That's why I said, "wait a few days for the basement extremists to go back to bed" over Star wars
22:20.34MonetIt's an interesting feedback loop.
22:21.47Wormy_In some ways it is a good thing too.
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22:23.30Wormy_hi
22:23.49OluapPlayerHi, until I inevitably disconnect again
22:23.52OluapPlayerinternet 2bad
22:25.49Wormy_Dark5 vids are fab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsMZ4ZtlKB8
22:41.24DrodoEmpiretest
22:43.59Wormy_click for awful web design http://2012classified.com/tag/real-alien-pictures/
22:47.40DrodoEmpireOh god
22:47.44DrodoEmpireThat's terribad
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22:50.06Wormy_hi
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23:39.37The_RandomnessHello
23:42.02floridromngh sunburns
23:42.38floridromgot them all over my collar and shoulders
23:44.56MonetNasty
23:50.11floridromAnd it is running down my arms!
23:50.20floridromscreams in panic
23:51.17DrodoGModOuch
23:51.24DrodoEmpireWell
23:52.25DrodoEmpireI had almost 900 ping for some reason and was about to disconnect from the server I spent fifteen minutes waiting to connect to (GMod servers have a *ridiculous* number of addons they have to install)
23:52.27DrodoEmpireSo I left
23:52.27DrodoEmpire:p
23:52.29floridromAt least I won't be able getting those stupid edgy acnes growning on my back in a while.
23:52.38floridromThat's the bright side
23:52.46floridromI'm dead serious

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