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01:21.04 | The_Randomness | Hello |
01:21.37 | DrodoEmpire | hayy lmao |
01:34.57 | DrodoEmpire | test |
01:38.08 | DrodoEmpire | test |
01:41.51 | OfficerJackal_ | DrodoEmpire: Belated by three minutes loud and clear |
01:41.54 | OfficerJackal_ | !* |
01:52.19 | Monet | goodnight |
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10:07.55 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:17.28 | Cyrannian | Hi |
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11:30.29 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/H5UYXHj.png Do you have any idea what that comic is about? |
11:43.41 | Wormy_ | Perhaps its a reference to the different teaching styles. |
11:53.11 | Wormy_ | morbid http://imgur.com/gallery/KlcDz |
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12:19.39 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/CXbLYzy |
12:20.45 | Wormy_ | Poison garden http://imgur.com/gallery/hM7eC |
12:22.17 | Technobliterator | oh, hi Oluap |
12:23.01 | Wormy_ | Duchess of Northumberland http://imgur.com/aXeGMUW |
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12:31.43 | Hachiman | Hello |
12:32.23 | Wormy_ | There is no way the Duchess of Northumberland would be interested in a pauper like me |
12:33.20 | Cyrannian | ImpyDroid: there are 26 counties in the Republic of Ireland and 6 in Northern Ireland, so adding them up together is a United Ireland |
12:33.33 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: She has a poison garden http://imgur.com/aXeGMUW |
12:33.49 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
12:35.11 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Did you know that potatos, tomatos, eggplants, chili and bell peppers, wolfberries, and deadly nightshade are all members of the same family - Solanaceae |
12:35.23 | Wormy_ | Yes, I did kknow |
12:35.32 | Hachiman | I found out the other day and had a meltdown |
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12:35.46 | Monet | Hello |
12:35.50 | Hachiman | Hello |
12:36.00 | Wormy_ | It is why potatoes contain cynaides |
12:36.10 | Wormy_ | And why potato fruits are poisonous |
12:36.15 | Hachiman | I never would have thought my darling potatos shared the same family as deadly nightshade |
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12:37.45 | Hachiman | Jesus |
12:38.19 | Wormy_ | Wouldn't want to cross her though |
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12:38.51 | ImpyDroid | hi |
12:38.58 | Monet | Don't appleseeds cotain small amounts of cyanide? |
12:39.31 | Wormy_ | it does |
12:39.58 | Monet | Its an interesting chemical in terms of how nature uses it |
12:40.10 | Hachiman | I will consider this |
12:41.31 | Monet | In enough amounts it kills sure but at the right level it can make the foodstuff taste foul enough to drive off potential consumers |
12:42.30 | Monet | But as has might have been seen humans have a tendency to take plant defence mechanisms and use them for *flavour* |
12:43.17 | Hachiman | Humans OP |
12:43.22 | Wormy_ | I enjoy the heat of chillis. |
12:43.39 | Wormy_ | The thing is, humans can digest a lot more than a lot of creatures |
12:44.58 | Monet | Actually I recall there was a suggestion on the radio and in Scientific American recently that certain amounts of the right toxins (like spices) can improve long-term health. |
12:45.12 | Wormy_ | http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Poison-Diaries-Duchess-Northumberland/dp/1862057311 |
12:45.20 | Wormy_ | metal book |
12:46.07 | Hachiman | The Duchess of Northumberland is a real life Poison Ivy it would appear |
12:46.12 | Wormy_ | I love how it features opium and weed as references |
12:47.58 | Wormy_ | apparently there is no sweet ending, the poisonous plants do their thing. |
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13:39.43 | Wormy_away | Hachiman: "The concentration of glycoalkaloid in wild potatoes suffices to produce toxic effects in humans. Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps, and in severe cases coma and death; " |
13:41.23 | Wormy_away | I wonder how hunter gatherers "tested" new foods when they entered new lands. I reckon they selected the outcasts for the job |
13:46.12 | Monet | Isn't there a trick to testing? |
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13:48.36 | Wormy_away | Oh yes, like rubbing it on the skin |
13:48.55 | Wormy_away | Or something |
13:49.04 | Roboticking | Theres always intresting conversations that go on whenpeople enter IRC arent there |
13:49.08 | Wormy_away | not that may always work |
13:49.34 | Wormy_away | Most of us just stay logged in |
13:50.37 | Roboticking | ah |
13:50.41 | Monet | I thought there was a trick involving chewing but spitting out |
13:50.49 | Roboticking | what were you talking about before I logged on? |
13:50.54 | Hachi_Away | Going shopping bbs |
13:55.58 | Monet | How potatoes actually contain trace amounts of cyanide. |
13:56.12 | Wormy_away | He didn't heed my advise hur |
14:22.33 | Wormy_away | HAH HAH |
14:22.58 | Wormy_away | <PROTECTED> |
14:32.01 | Wormy_away | Ambient space music, nice to work or write fiction with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TpoJI60NWA |
14:51.05 | TekDroid | I wrote a whole space game last year with an FTL track on loop. The ambient music thing works. :P |
14:54.54 | Wormy_away | Love writing short sci-fi stories with ambient music. I might start doing that soon |
14:55.20 | Monet | There is something about the right music's ability to stir ideas |
14:55.56 | Wormy_away | Yeah, with collaborative war stories, I listen to soundtrack |
14:56.01 | Wormy_away | *movie |
14:56.19 | Wormy_away | Or maybe rock |
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15:00.13 | Wormy_away | https://www.youtube.com/user/SpaceAmbient |
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15:07.49 | Monet | I'm looking at Chinese history and I'm realising that the way I have written the change in paragon families might be unrealistic. |
15:09.05 | Monet | The two Paragon lines before Ultanos ended because they ran our of heirs. |
15:09.22 | Monet | But we all know how erm...promiscuous Draocnis can be. |
15:10.59 | Roboticking | ah |
15:11.30 | Roboticking | Your thinking of some...illegitimate children from those lines? |
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15:13.09 | Monet | Roboticking: Draconis consider lying with your sister- or cousin-in-law was okay. |
15:13.12 | Monet | as okay* |
15:13.21 | Roboticking | Good to know... |
15:13.26 | Monet | But lying with blood relatives is where they draw the line. |
15:13.39 | Roboticking | Alright |
15:13.50 | Roboticking | You could use this for a story line? |
15:14.21 | Monet | I might rework the paragon dynasties |
15:14.38 | Monet | Maybe add a few more. |
15:15.21 | Roboticking | ah |
15:15.35 | Monet | I had owndered about an idea where the electoral committe that chooses the lines may also have a say on whether or not a dynasty is considered unfit to rule. |
15:17.12 | Monet | Though I guess in that rgard there would need to be some way of regulating that power. |
15:17.55 | Monet | You'd effectively have this secret council who declares who is and who isn't fit to rule the Imperium |
15:18.01 | Roboticking | ah |
15:18.10 | Roboticking | but thats alot of power |
15:18.21 | Monet | There is another possibility |
15:18.23 | Roboticking | in the hand of the council |
15:18.30 | Monet | Draconis have three names. |
15:18.56 | Monet | A presonal one, a bloodline one and a family one |
15:20.19 | Monet | The family name could be be determined by the politically dominant bloodline within a family. |
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15:25.29 | Roboticking | alright |
15:26.56 | drom | Hello |
15:27.06 | Monet | So a paragon line could change based on how influential the primary bloodline is |
15:27.23 | Monet | WHich I guess is based on the Patriarch. |
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15:27.40 | Hachiman | hOI!!! |
15:28.09 | drom | Monet: So I attempted to do the "Soda War" something mission in EVE:O |
15:28.22 | drom | Only to be banged by 3 hostile Rookie ships |
15:28.37 | Monet | PvP? |
15:32.31 | drom | PvE |
15:32.44 | drom | I needed some money anyway |
15:33.10 | Monet | My advice is rookie ships aren't great for shooting other ships |
15:33.42 | drom | Yeah. Though I managed through the "Corporate Records" mission single-handed |
15:34.28 | drom | You encounter 6 hostile NPC ships and a hostile NPC flying a rookie in that mission. |
15:34.28 | Monet | OKay... |
15:34.54 | drom | They all will come at once |
15:35.34 | Monet | A while ago I realised had only given a passing mention to Uriel's mother. Except now I realise I haven't given his moher any name at all. |
15:36.02 | Roboticking | that isnt good |
15:36.20 | Hachiman | I always ensure to give my characters' parents names |
15:37.46 | drom | Monet Wormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/KdRRU4X.jpg |
15:38.38 | Monet | Yeah I think when I first started I stuck to referring to the family name. |
15:40.02 | Monet | COnsidering what almost happened in Golden Movement I think that paragon lines being overthrown by the praetors is quite possible. |
15:41.38 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/VPj0Nxx.webm |
15:42.03 | Roboticking | You guys like foxes dont you |
15:42.48 | Hachiman | You cannot - or rather, should not - fuck a fox, so no, I am not fond of them |
15:44.40 | Roboticking | You like to mate with anything you see don't you Hachi |
15:45.18 | drom | Hachiman Monet Wormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/BTBSauk.webm |
15:46.12 | Hachiman | Oh God |
15:46.35 | Roboticking | is that video clip on youtube |
15:46.44 | drom | Yep |
15:47.18 | Monet | The world's most inappropriate house party. |
15:48.20 | drom | I don't know what the guy in funky clothes should represent, but in the comments, someone hinted me that it is a british pedophile |
15:48.51 | Monet | That's Jimmy Saville |
15:50.33 | Monet | Who until word came out of sexually abusing children had a very famous career as a somewhat creepy man personally making chldrens' wishes come true. |
15:51.02 | drom | I see. |
15:53.00 | Roboticking | I cannot find that clip Monet |
15:54.34 | drom | Roboticking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5TgvvOYdA |
15:54.44 | Roboticking | thanks |
15:56.37 | Roboticking | Thanks |
15:56.40 | Roboticking | ... |
15:56.47 | Roboticking | why did i repeat...nevermind |
15:57.57 | drom | Monet: Anyway, speaking of EVE:O. What's the best way to get started on the path to industralist? |
16:00.10 | Monet | drom: I'd say find something relatively cheap to manufacture and look for a blueprint for it |
16:00.11 | drom | Roboticking: Regarding your question about foxes. I like them. |
16:00.21 | Roboticking | Good to know |
16:01.39 | drom | Monet: I see. Got an idea what it would be? |
16:02.06 | Monet | I tried breaking into the manufacturing market by making ammo. |
16:02.29 | drom | How well did it go then? |
16:02.35 | Monet | Unit-by-unit ammo doesn't make much but the materials costs are relatively low and easy to acquire. |
16:02.37 | drom | Currently I'm just doing mining. |
16:04.08 | Monet | Depending what you mine (check blueprints), you could easily make ammo though every unit of raw material you mine. |
16:07.03 | drom | Alright, mining business in general? |
16:07.46 | Monet | Mining may be slow but its a reliable start if you have nothing. |
16:09.54 | Monet | But while you can certainly make money as an industrialist, keep an eye on your material costs. |
16:11.23 | drom | After some searching, veldspar seems to be a good mineral to mine and sell |
16:12.04 | Monet | Everyone wants veldspar. |
16:12.36 | Hachiman | So apparently, Naval Air Facility Atsugi in the Kanagawa Prefecture of Japan is thought to be the most haunted naval facility in the world and is home to ghosts both of ancient and contemporary times; one notable ghost is that of an unknown Samurai warrior, who is said to assault people in the base at night via slapping them and disappearing |
16:13.19 | Hachiman | So much for a terrifying ghost encounter when all it does is effectively pull a prank on you |
16:13.39 | Monet | drom One thing I like about refining ores into crystals and minerals is that the minerals have much less mass and are easier to transport. |
16:13.52 | drom | Monet: mhm yeah |
16:14.04 | drom | I'm going to need a bigger ship |
16:14.44 | Monet | Induistrials |
16:14.59 | Monet | They're purpose-built for hauling large amounts of stuff |
16:17.43 | drom | So, Orcas? |
16:18.32 | Monet | Orcas have ore compressors I think |
16:18.41 | Monet | What faction did you choose? |
16:19.34 | drom | Caldari |
16:20.32 | Monet | I'm talking Badgers and Teyras |
16:20.33 | drom | Orca is an ORE ship, so you can get it regardless the faction you belong to |
16:20.39 | drom | I see. |
16:21.06 | Monet | I asked for what faction so I could direct you to the industrial you could most easily get. |
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16:23.32 | Monet | Afternoon. |
16:23.43 | Xho | SQUAAAAAAAAAAK |
16:23.43 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/qt9IGi0 |
16:23.59 | drom | Evening |
16:24.03 | Wormy_away | hi |
16:24.28 | drom | Monet: Fair enough |
16:24.41 | drom | I'll see how much I keep this going on |
16:25.11 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/RLATJZG |
16:25.15 | Wormy_away | checkthat out |
16:25.45 | OluapPlayer | hi |
16:26.21 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/e5Jb2p9 |
16:27.25 | Xho | "When your connection is so slow the world doesn't load fast enough to catch your fall." |
16:28.30 | Xho | "The wreckage of a plane 'full of skeletons' has been found in the jungle and it's said to have the Malaysian flag on it. Could this really be Flight MH370?" "How could a skeleton fly a plane???" |
16:32.11 | Xho | And there's a discussion on whether it's MH370 because of the fact there's skeletons in there and not decomposing bodies |
16:32.30 | Xho | I'd imagine 18 months in a jungle would easily accelerate it |
16:33.22 | drom | Monet: I noticed that skills have a (nx) modifer after their name |
16:33.27 | drom | What's that for? |
16:33.34 | Monet | Do they know the plane model? |
16:34.52 | Xho | Dunno |
16:35.05 | Monet | drom: Trying to think but I think some skills take longer to train than others. |
16:36.52 | Monet | Xho: I'm a little duvious myself. |
16:37.43 | Monet | The palne crashed in the indian ocean and this woman found the wreckage withi nthe jungle of an island, with bodies, in the middle of the East Indes archipeligo. |
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16:40.08 | Monet | "So a police commissioner in Borneo says some bloke in the Philippines reports that his aunt reckons she's found a wrecked aircraft, which has seemingly crashed into thick jungle without cutting a highly-visible swathe through the tree tops (so at a pretty steep angle of descent) but which is sufficiently intact that the pilot is still sitting in his seat." |
16:40.11 | Hachiman | "The wreckage of a plane 'full of skeletons' has been found in the jungle and it's said to have the Malaysian flag on it. Could this really be Flight MH370?" "How could a skeleton fly a plane???" |
16:40.21 | Monet | Found that comment and...I think he has a bit of a point. |
16:40.27 | Xho | Hachiman: I just posted that u dunce |
16:41.03 | Hachiman | And there's a discussion on whether it's MH370 because of the fact there's skeletons in there and not decomposing bodies |
16:41.20 | Hachiman | I'd imagine 18 months in a jungle would easily accelerate it |
16:41.27 | Xho | can u fukin not |
16:41.29 | OfficerJackal | Well to be fair, in warm, humid enviroments it only takes like a day or two for someone to start decomposing. Yeah. |
16:41.35 | Monet | If this plane has been sitting in the jungle for only a year and a half why is it she found it via a jungle trail and not say a suspiciously straight path though the treeline. |
16:41.41 | OfficerJackal | I'd reckon there would be skeletons after a few weeks or a month. |
16:42.01 | OfficerJackal | And of course, that's not factoring in the wildlife scavaging the corpses. |
16:42.18 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11150786_965217926854685_6585818761341112175_n.jpg?oh=6272d948d37d1cf65f4d50329315367e&oe=56982C4C |
16:42.29 | Hachiman | hur |
16:42.34 | Hachiman | dat nostalgia |
16:44.06 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Just saw your updates on the Eschaton section |
16:44.08 | Xho | I lel'd |
16:44.27 | OluapPlayer | Yeah we gotta talk about that |
16:44.36 | Monet | For me it doesn't add up because the jungle flora sounds too dense to be a crash that didn't result i nthe obliteration of the cabin. |
16:45.08 | OluapPlayer | If you're gonna have your characters solve all the problems then you may as well write the story by yourself |
16:45.29 | Monet | The thing that would mail if it is the Malaysian flight, for me, is if they can confirm what make this mystery plane is. |
16:45.51 | Monet | If it's a DC-3 then yeah its not MH370. |
16:45.55 | OfficerJackal | Well, you said there was no swaths of forest taken out, so yeah it must have gone in a very steep angle. The cockpit and the cabin should have extreme damage if not outright estroyed, yeah. |
16:46.05 | Xho | I'll change it around then |
16:46.36 | OfficerJackal | Since, going in at those speeds, it's simply not possible for things like the pilot still sitting in his seat. |
16:46.43 | OfficerJackal | It would have pancaked, and exploded in a fireball. |
16:47.03 | Monet | It definitely sounds like a shallow landing |
16:48.20 | Monet | But an 18-month old flight would ahve left a scar. |
16:48.20 | Monet | So I estimate this plane has been i nthe jungle for...maybe at least 10 years? |
16:48.24 | Monet | Who knows it could date fro mthe Second World War - it happens. |
16:49.01 | Monet | No wait my mistake |
16:49.28 | drom | Monet: Look at the Tech 2 variations of the two industrial ships you pointed me to, I guess Crane is a good choice? |
16:50.06 | Monet | drom: T3 industrials sacrifice cargo space for armour and speed. |
16:50.13 | Monet | T2 sorry |
16:50.35 | drom | Sounds ideal when you have to do runs in nullsec systems |
16:50.38 | OfficerJackal | Monet: Yeah... I'd say it's just some older wreckage that, like you said, went in and crashed shallow. Probably some backwater regional airline nobody cared about that crashed awhile ago. |
16:50.53 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 updated |
16:50.55 | OfficerJackal | Like, regional regional. |
16:51.27 | Monet | More likely property of the Malaysian Air Force. |
16:51.36 | OfficerJackal | Or that too, yeah. |
16:51.39 | OfficerJackal | Actually more likely. |
16:51.47 | drom | Monet: Crane has more capacity than Badger, but less structure points |
16:51.54 | Monet | It had the Malaysian flag on it. |
16:52.11 | Monet | drom: Check armour points. |
16:52.19 | OfficerJackal | Ohhhh, alright then yeah, it is more likely a malaysian air force aircraft. |
16:53.18 | Monet | 'She also found a Malaysian flag measuring 70 inches long and 35 inches wide.' |
16:53.22 | drom | Monet: Crane also has more points |
16:54.03 | Monet | drom: Put a Crane on your wish list. |
16:54.06 | Monet | They require Industiral 5 to fly. |
16:54.12 | drom | Monet: About 300% the capacitor capacity and stronger shields |
16:55.47 | Monet | OKay I've also realises something else off about this claim |
16:55.54 | Monet | The plain was flying from Kuarlar Lumpar to Beijing |
16:55.58 | drom | Monet: Going for a Tayra first though, since it favors cargo hold and max speed, where Badger only provides max speed and inherita |
16:56.52 | drom | Crane is inherently a Tayra, but pimped and stronger |
16:57.57 | Monet | According to this claim, the reackage was found ~1500km east and ~300km North of Kuarlar Lumpar and some 2800km+ from the plane's last known location |
17:02.11 | Monet | If both the last radar sighting and wreckage are true the plane flew northwest then after it dissapeared off the radar flew south-east-east over the Gulf of Thailand, possibly part of Indonesia and crashed on the island. |
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17:05.37 | Monet | Whatever this woman found it definitely sounds like some kind of Malaysian military aircraft that was for some reason flying over Indonesia. |
17:06.11 | Monet | Not Indonesia sorry, too broad |
17:06.28 | Monet | The Phillipines |
17:10.07 | drom | Monet: For whether a strange reason, the Minatar ships are sold assembled and ready-to-fly for 3-4 million ISK |
17:10.25 | drom | Add 300 000 ISK for the required book to play that ship. |
17:10.40 | drom | As opposed to the blueprints that cost like billion ISK each |
17:10.47 | drom | for the Caldari industrials |
17:11.45 | Monet | drom: Those blueprints are not one-use |
17:12.10 | drom | I see |
17:12.19 | Monet | Original blueprints (the more expensive version) can be used indefinitely while blueprint copies have a set number of uses. |
17:14.22 | drom | How can you see if that blueprint is not a copy? |
17:15.05 | Monet | I think it says if you look on the object's information. |
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17:15.11 | drom | Tayras are expensiver than Badgers what the hell |
17:15.13 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:15.34 | Monet | hi |
17:17.18 | drom | I think I should only sell the minerals straight into the market so people can reprocess them by themselves |
17:18.39 | Monet | With the right skills and level of reprocessing efficiency the constituent minerals can be worth more than the ore. |
17:21.09 | Wormy_away | drom: Unproccessed ore and unmodified minerals are barely worth anything outside hobbyists. It takes a lot of money to mine minerals, let alone process them |
17:24.08 | Wormy_away | If a mineral is scarce, it may be worth it to extract huge amounts of rock that were previously not economical. But I imagine space mining would mean that less and less would be mined from planets. So extremely rich sources on asteroids might be more sellable. I imagine selling whole asteroid is therefore more worthwile |
17:24.28 | Wormy_away | Whole asteroid fields |
17:26.58 | Wormy_away | Oh wait, not talking about fiction are you? Whether that works in EVE, well, hopefully I past on something usefu; |
17:27.12 | Wormy_away | *passed |
17:27.20 | Wormy_away | Be an asteroid baron |
17:27.35 | drom | I'm on about EVE:O |
17:27.37 | Monet | drom: Tayras used to go undre the name of "Badger mk II" |
17:28.15 | Monet | But Wormy is sort of on to something |
17:29.04 | Monet | Veldspar yields only tritanium which has an average price of about 3.1 ISK per unit. |
17:29.42 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12144841_1820317187991332_1751924232490580238_n.png?oh=5a1527919d79d50f4920262a12ee085f&oe=56CDFC86 |
17:29.43 | Monet | Both are the most common ore and mineral for mining so its quite undersandale why the price is so low. |
17:30.03 | Monet | Hachiman: I love Karl. |
17:30.11 | Hachiman | Karl Pilkington is like my spirit animal |
17:30.12 | drom | Monet: Yeah, except the Veldspar is currently 17,80 ISK per m3 |
17:30.25 | Wormy_away | Importantly, can you conquer or procure entire asteroids and so on? |
17:30.57 | drom | Correction: 15.80 ISK |
17:31.07 | Wormy_away | I believe Space Engineers does (I'm getting it when its next on sale!) |
17:31.28 | Monet | drom: Tritanium weighs 0.01 m3 iirc |
17:31.30 | Hachiman | Wormy_away: I believe you can procure and mine asteroids in EVE |
17:31.52 | Wormy_away | awesome |
17:32.13 | Wormy_away | I could play EVE but I dare not while I'm studying lol |
17:32.24 | Monet | You can't conquer asteroids, they're really only useful for cutting open for minerals. |
17:33.00 | Monet | But single players can build interplanetary networks. |
17:33.32 | drom | And conquer the market |
17:34.34 | drom | Let me to state that selling the ores straight into the market is more profitable for me, since the reprocessing is less profitable despite the 50% base |
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17:36.19 | Monet | Its cool. You should make your mark your way. |
17:36.49 | Wormy_away | In real life, an assessment of the economical value of an orebody must be made, so that mining and processing will actually be worth it against the cost. I don't know whether EVE simulates that |
17:36.53 | Monet | I suppose that's what I like a little about the game; it and most of the community treat you like an adult. |
17:36.53 | Monet | Mostly |
17:37.18 | Wormy_away | but there areoften mistakes |
17:37.38 | Monet | Wormy_away: Ore assessment does happen in the game |
17:37.48 | drom | Seems like the demand of ores are bigger than minerals |
17:38.08 | drom | And they are willing to pay it more than minerals |
17:38.22 | Wormy_away | That's no surprise really, not very often do you elements in their native forms |
17:38.53 | Wormy_away | Its great if you ore body supports a range of minerals that can be processed from it |
17:39.02 | Monet | There are discussions on what's the best type of ore to mine and you can get a starship module that allows you to see how much ore is in a given asteroid. |
17:39.29 | Wormy_away | Maybe you are right, sellling entire ores (maybe even at asteroid levels) is profitable in space. Although in RL it is harder to seperate |
17:39.57 | Monet | Wormy_away: "Its great if you ore body supports a range of minerals that can be processed from it" all other ores do that. |
17:41.07 | drom | Many suggest that Veldar is a very reliable and safe mineral to mine |
17:41.12 | drom | ore* |
17:42.40 | drom | Wormy_away: I get what you are trying to say about selling ores directly into the market. It depends really |
17:42.40 | Monet | I've made money processing an ore called "pyroxeres" which contains minerals one of which while only present in trace amounts can be worth around 500 ISK a unit. |
17:43.53 | Monet | Veldspar is reliable and safe because tritanium is used in making literally everything. |
17:44.20 | Wormy_away | brb dinner |
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17:45.07 | Hachiman | Fuck |
17:45.18 | drom | Monet: Yeah, imagine the ethernity of filling a badger full of ore with a civilian miner |
17:45.42 | Monet | I will confess |
17:45.46 | Monet | I have done that |
17:45.55 | Monet | And I regret it. |
17:46.06 | drom | It took you hours, right? |
17:46.25 | Monet | Oh yes |
17:46.50 | drom | On the serious side though, which rate would be optimial for a badger? |
17:47.17 | Monet | Don't mine with a badger. |
17:48.17 | Monet | Don't use an industrial because 1) you will be bored out of your mind and 2) frigates, while having smaller hulls, can be fitted with two maybe 3 turrets |
17:48.57 | drom | ventures then |
17:50.34 | drom | Anyway, I could perhaps mine my way up to a badger and try some industrial business from there? |
17:51.09 | Monet | Yeah. |
17:51.18 | Monet | Industrials are trucks basically. |
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17:51.44 | OluapPlayer_ | STOP |
17:51.48 | drom | Rite, what's the best way off industrial business then? |
17:51.50 | Xho | POTS |
17:52.02 | drom | ÑÑоп |
17:52.40 | drom | I dislike putting my life on dependence of market shares and graphs |
17:52.47 | Monet | You want to manufacture industrials? |
17:53.35 | Monet | I think that's what puts a lot of people off EVE: Its a capitalism simulator. |
17:53.37 | drom | That sounds a bit too crazy |
17:54.18 | Monet | THe alternative is become a mercenary and either join a merc coproration or do missions for NPC corporations |
17:54.37 | drom | Huhuh, sounds more like an Orca is better for me then. |
17:56.14 | drom | demn prices though |
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17:57.05 | OluapPlayer | Fucking goddamn everything ever |
17:57.17 | Monet | Yeah Orcas are popular among corporate mining operations. |
17:57.31 | drom | demn price tags on them though |
17:57.37 | drom | 700 000 000 ISK each |
17:58.27 | drom | You could do transporting though |
17:58.39 | drom | looks on freighters |
17:58.49 | Monet | lol |
17:59.06 | Monet | Yeahno I don't have that kind of money. |
17:59.56 | drom | Damn, Amarr's only freighter looks pretty hot |
18:00.28 | Monet | Also freighters have this thing that pirates think of them as Pinatas. |
18:01.43 | drom | Obvious fact is obvious |
18:02.03 | drom | For what are Industrials useful? |
18:02.32 | Monet | They're your most common form of materials transport. |
18:03.37 | Monet | I have a Teyra and with the mods and skills I have it has a cargo hold of about 14,000m3 |
18:05.05 | Monet | Even wealthy players will use them ebcause they're not as massive or slow a target as a freighter |
18:06.26 | drom | I see. But you also told me about the interplanetary network today and months months ago when we talked EVE:O |
18:07.07 | Monet | Indeed I did. |
18:07.24 | Monet | I guess I forgot to mention that the goods transfer between planets is all manual. |
18:07.29 | drom | They can be used to grant you a solid if not interruptable income? |
18:07.37 | drom | Aha |
18:08.05 | Monet | But yes, with a good supply you can make a couple of million fairly easily. |
18:09.40 | Monet | It will require a few skills but if you are having cash issues I could supply some of them. |
18:17.06 | drom | That's pretty cool |
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18:19.13 | OluapPlayer | Fucking kill me |
18:19.30 | Xho | kills OluapPlayer in the fucking variety |
18:19.47 | OluapPlayer | dat not what i meant |
18:19.53 | Xho | 2bad |
18:21.13 | Wormy_away | racism in the comments brings me to misery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aV_850nzv4 |
18:21.14 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/g7j8Lhm.webm |
18:23.17 | Wormy_away | I got laughed at once because I asked if someone's cat would steal my toast like a dog. I was drunk though |
18:28.49 | drom | Monet: Made 140 000 ISK today, that'll be enough for today |
18:29.00 | Monet | drom: Not bad. |
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18:38.48 | drom | Wormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/7KHgx5z.gif |
18:40.25 | Wormy_away | attack of the killer cucumbers |
18:41.29 | drom | Monet Wormy_away: Now I'll never see >2m species the same ever again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7xGmdsTSLQ |
18:43.42 | Wormy_away | thats what you get for houses made of plaster and horse hair |
18:43.54 | Wormy_away | like his own house |
18:46.25 | MonetSemi | Or what you get for using cement other than what that ocmpany offers. |
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18:52.24 | Wormy_semi_here | The Buddha vs. Nietzsche XD http://existentialcomics.com/comic/102 |
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18:54.49 | LuxorHere | Hello there. |
18:55.15 | LuxorHere | Is there any universal term for a being able to use essence? |
18:55.30 | drom | MonetSemi Wormy_semi_here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yEu2R1gYSs |
18:55.40 | drom | LuxorHere: I say magician, ho! |
18:55.52 | LuxorHere | hur hur drom, very fun |
18:57.24 | MonetSemi | We've had essence Sages but that's a particular type of essence user. |
18:57.42 | LuxorHere | I'll just use "some being capable of using paradigmatic powers" |
18:59.12 | MonetSemi | I like using the term "mentalist" personally |
19:02.10 | Hachiman | I suppose it varies with culture so no universal term if I recall |
19:03.36 | Hachiman | Personally I like to call individuals capable of Essence powers "witches", because they, alongside the heretic and the alien, must be purged |
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19:07.04 | Wormy_semi_here | drom: I did once put on a magnet on the screen |
19:07.15 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
19:07.41 | drom | Wormy_semi_here: I assume that you enjoyed the virtual black holes? |
19:08.26 | Wormy_semi_here | It wasn't that powerful, if I'd used my neodymium magnets it would have gone through the screen |
19:08.33 | Wormy_semi_here | It was multicoloured |
19:08.42 | Wormy_semi_here | until I restarted |
19:09.07 | drom | Wormy_semi_here: You could also enjoy some finger pancakes if you held it too close. |
19:09.32 | Wormy_semi_here | aye, its only small, so more like finger pinch |
19:09.47 | Wormy_semi_here | in fact it did once |
19:10.07 | Wormy_semi_here | the magnet actually snappeed itself in half |
19:11.44 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/5FwJlZe.gif |
19:11.47 | Wormy_semi_here | I dropped it on something you see, it fell, broke but snapped together. I find it takes great strength to pull them part |
19:12.33 | Wormy_semi_here | do it wrong, and you'll pinch for finger tips or even probably break the inger even though its small and made for children |
19:12.52 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/qf3ADbj.gif |
19:13.03 | Hachiman | hur |
19:13.10 | Hachiman | I wonder if vampires would be harmed by moonlight |
19:13.23 | Hachiman | Considering that the light of the room is reflected sunlight |
19:13.30 | Hachiman | moon even |
19:13.50 | Wormy_semi_here | Perhaps its below the thresh-hold of death |
19:13.58 | Wormy_semi_here | And actually gooid for them |
19:14.15 | Wormy_semi_here | Like eating too many potatoes would poison you eventually |
19:14.25 | Wormy_semi_here | But you would be sick long before |
19:14.40 | Hachiman | So maybe vampires are harmed by sunlight because it would be like overcharging them? |
19:14.50 | Wormy_semi_here | ...Could be |
19:15.01 | Ghel | So, in principle, you could harm a vampire by focusing a large enough amount of moonlight onto them? |
19:15.10 | drom | You guys just reminded me of that Old Spice's "double solar power" ad |
19:15.29 | Hachiman | Enough UV radiation onto them, rather |
19:15.50 | Wormy_semi_here | Maybe. Vampires must have really fragile genes |
19:16.01 | Hachiman | Although if moonlight is good for vampires, I must wonder why they would drink blood for sustenance |
19:16.13 | Hachiman | I actually dunno what is so nutritious about blood |
19:16.37 | Ghel | Some species obviously do subsist on blood, but in general it's not the ideal food source. |
19:16.51 | Wormy_semi_here | Perhaps they do not have good bone marrow |
19:17.02 | OluapPlayer | Mythology was not made to be scientifically accurate |
19:17.08 | drom | Vampires are pale as fuck |
19:17.31 | Hachiman | It is not like the panda situation where they evolved in an environment where they must subsist on high intake of low-nutrition foods |
19:17.32 | drom | Pale skin is also a sign of anaemia |
19:17.35 | Ghel | OluapPlayer: Exactly. Rather than nutrition and UV, the real reasons for vampires' respective interactions with blood and sunlight are likely to be magic and magic. |
19:17.38 | Wormy_semi_here | I don't know you could probably pull all this together into an explanation about their features |
19:18.04 | Ghel | You certainly could come up with science-based vampires. |
19:18.05 | drom | Aka handwavium |
19:18.18 | OluapPlayer | Your tone is very mocking but that is exactly the case |
19:18.25 | Ghel | Not every attempt at making realistic magic is handwavium, drom. |
19:18.47 | Ghel | No, I wasn't mocking. I was actually about to say exactly that, but then you brought up the topic first. |
19:18.55 | Wormy_semi_here | There is bad handwavium, and good. |
19:19.03 | drom | MonetSemi Wormy_semi_here: http://i.imgur.com/lG6CngK.jpg |
19:19.07 | Wormy_semi_here | The trick is to make your readers not sense it |
19:19.20 | MonetSemi | I think vampires drinking blood is directly related to the idea that blood is life. |
19:19.21 | drom | Handwavium is an extremely omnipotent element, you shouldn't mess with it |
19:20.20 | OluapPlayer | More like a buzzword |
19:21.02 | Wormy_semi_here | I'm wondering if we could base it on their DNA... |
19:21.03 | Ghel | MonetSemi: Something like that, I would assume. |
19:21.15 | MonetSemi | My understanding is Vampires drain blood because blood contains the life-material or life-essence. |
19:21.47 | Wormy_semi_here | Makes sense, blood was considered a vitalistic substance and one of the fluids like bile and black bile |
19:21.50 | MonetSemi | Back i nthe days where blood was thought ot be created at the source and consumed at the destination the idea must have been that vampires could no longer create blood within themselves. |
19:21.54 | Hachiman | I remember that there is some sorta semi-scientific explanation as to why vampires consume blood in Blade II while they can consume other foodstuffs alongside |
19:22.07 | Ghel | Sunlight being harmful might also have some such symbolism of the light of day being good, or perhaps it's an exaggeration of their tendency to come out at night. |
19:22.10 | Wormy_semi_here | Hence mythology has energy and spirit vampires |
19:23.06 | Wormy_semi_here | They have found young blood can youthen mice |
19:23.25 | Wormy_semi_here | Maybe they are stem cell stealers |
19:23.56 | Wormy_semi_here | Maybe they bite the neck to get at delicious bone marrow |
19:24.23 | Hachiman | Realistically, the only solution I can see for which vampires must depend entirely on blood is that it is an easily-consumable substance and certain biological systems and functions have ceased in order to put energy into their more superhuman capabilities |
19:24.24 | drom | Could be, but it still leaves out their exaggrated delicacy to sunlight |
19:24.37 | Hachiman | With which mild photosynthesis by moonlight could contribute |
19:25.12 | Tek0516 | Sensitivity to strong UV? |
19:25.14 | Wormy_semi_here | I was thinking it had something to do with having weak DNA by not having a big reproductive population and instead living forever |
19:25.17 | drom | Yeah, that. |
19:26.12 | drom | There are fictions (not talking about Sporewikiverse nor Fantasyverse) who link their delicacy to UV wavelengths being lethal to them. |
19:26.13 | Wormy_semi_here | I'm not quite sure why I'm thinking some DNA could be more mutated than another by radiation |
19:26.14 | Hachiman | How would blood contribute to fixing DNA? |
19:26.37 | Ghel | That wouldn't make UV immediately harm them, as in you wouldn't get sunlight turning them to dust. |
19:26.48 | drom | Some render the process as "burns". |
19:27.21 | MonetSemi | I can't think of mythological explainations but I can think of mystical explainations for sensetivity to sunlight |
19:27.44 | MonetSemi | Wait was the original Stoker's Dracula sensetive to sunlight? |
19:27.49 | Hachiman | Yes |
19:27.53 | Ghel | Sunburn would result easily if there's little or no melanin in the skin. But easily-damaged DNA isn't directly going to increase burning tendency (it will however make skin cancer more likely). |
19:28.25 | Ghel | What you'd want for that is an increased tendency for inflammation upon exposure to UV. |
19:28.48 | Hachiman | It was not sunlight which killed Stoker's Dracula admittedly but I recall that he possessed an aversion to it |
19:28.55 | Hachiman | Oh no wait, I got it wrong |
19:29.07 | drom | In the novel and filmatsation of "Let the Right one in", one of the vampires becomes exposed to sunlight and is lit on fire. |
19:29.12 | Hachiman | Sunlight was not fatal to Stoker's Dracula; his powers were weakened by it however |
19:29.15 | Wormy_semi_here | We would have to explain their aversion to garlic and salt. |
19:29.37 | Technobliterator | lmao |
19:29.41 | MonetSemi | well garlic, again spiritual. |
19:29.45 | Technobliterator | I just rewatched the Raiden vs Armstrong fight |
19:29.49 | Technobliterator | at one point Armstrong says: |
19:29.56 | Hachiman | "Nanomachines, son!" |
19:29.56 | Technobliterator | "they'll make America great again!" |
19:30.00 | Technobliterator | beat Trump to it |
19:30.04 | MonetSemi | Garlic was a medicinal herb. |
19:30.04 | MonetSemi | A bitter tasting one at that. |
19:30.17 | OluapPlayer | Imagine Trump with Armstrong's nanomachines |
19:30.20 | MonetSemi | And I think the smell of garlic was good at detrerring blood-sucking insects. |
19:30.32 | Tek0516 | Do many modern works even do the garlic thing anymore? |
19:30.38 | Hachiman | Blade did it |
19:30.52 | Hachiman | Garlic is still an anti-vampire icon |
19:31.08 | Hachiman | Perhaps all vampires are coincidentally people who had a distaste for garlic prior to their vampirification |
19:31.08 | Wormy_semi_here | In mythology, both garlic and onion were believed to have sprouted whereever the Devil stood on Earth, garlic for his right foot, onion for his left. |
19:31.11 | drom | Garlic is also an anti-witch icon |
19:31.21 | Technobliterator | oh boy |
19:31.21 | drom | In some mytologies though |
19:31.26 | Technobliterator | boosting Trump's ego even more |
19:31.43 | OluapPlayer | Ogres come from the Devil's left foot |
19:31.57 | Wormy_semi_here | hur |
19:32.07 | Hachiman | WHAT ARE YE DOIN IN MA FOOT |
19:32.18 | Ghel | Aversion to garlic could just be a psychological thing. Just a bizarre inexplicable side-effect of vampirism. Wasn't the original idea of salt that all vampires are OCD and will count every last grain of salt spilled on the floor? |
19:32.30 | drom | "watch urself before u shrek urself" |
19:32.35 | Hachiman | I do recall something like that actually |
19:32.40 | Wormy_semi_here | Yeah |
19:33.09 | Hachiman | Boy, if people think scientific vampires are a difficult subject to explain, wait until we move onto scientific lycanthropes |
19:33.21 | Wormy_semi_here | I was about to ask about that. |
19:33.26 | Hachiman | Which may or may not be related to vampires, I dunno |
19:33.38 | OluapPlayer | ur dum |
19:33.40 | MonetSemi | Well the Roman scholar Pliny wrote in his book Natural History wrote of a number of beneficial uses for garlic. |
19:33.48 | OluapPlayer | Putting realism in a non-realistic thing |
19:34.50 | Wormy_semi_here | Werewolves, "regressive evolution" and superhuman mutants are all in this shapeshifting genetics/disease category |
19:35.03 | Hachiman | I consider this sorta thing an exercise hu |
19:35.04 | Hachiman | hur |
19:35.13 | OluapPlayer | It defeats the point |
19:35.19 | Ghel | Yeah; putting realism in non-realistic things is a challenge. |
19:35.21 | Technobliterator | woah, Raiden's skin was really tough |
19:35.33 | drom | Trying to make sense of non-realistic things is actually a fun particie |
19:35.45 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: So is Raiden's synthetic robo-cock |
19:35.48 | Wormy_semi_here | I agree |
19:35.49 | MonetSemi | Technobliterator: It was? |
19:35.53 | OluapPlayer | I'm surprised you enjoy Monster Hunter with that attitude, considering nearly everything in that universe should die because of the square cube law |
19:35.55 | drom | practice* |
19:36.03 | Technobliterator | the amount he took from Armstrong |
19:36.08 | Technobliterator | is pretty insane when you look back on it |
19:36.11 | Hachiman | I can suspend my disbelief for Monster Hunter plus I love fantasy |
19:36.34 | Wormy_semi_here | Just because I like hard SF, doesn't mean I can't enjoy soft sci-fi or hard fantasy |
19:36.46 | Hachiman | I am not of the opinion that everything should be realistic, I just like a challenge every now and then |
19:36.54 | MonetSemi | Technobliterator: To be fair, 90% of his body is high-grade carbon nanotubes |
19:37.13 | MonetSemi | That's shit's lighter and stronger than steel |
19:37.28 | drom | Scientific Fantasy also works |
19:38.03 | Wormy_semi_here | Proto-science fiction is sort of at the cross-roads with fantasy |
19:38.49 | Wormy_semi_here | http://www.wardshelley.com/paintings/pages/HistoryofScienceFiction.html |
19:38.54 | Wormy_semi_here | Look at this |
19:39.24 | drom | That text is so tiny ugh |
19:39.57 | MonetSemi | Let's not forget that Dracula and The WOlfman were written at a time when Science was really popular amongst the educated classes of EUrope. |
19:41.03 | Hachiman | Alongside Frankenstein I believe |
19:41.27 | Hachiman | Frankenstein is like the first proto-science fiction story |
19:42.18 | Wormy_semi_here | drom http://www.wardshelley.com/paintings/pages/fullpics/HistSciFi2.jpg |
19:42.30 | drom | Thanks! |
19:42.31 | MonetSemi | Hachiman: Yeah |
19:42.38 | Wormy_semi_here | I did want to write a Jules Vernian adventure story for the Fantasyverse |
19:42.58 | MonetSemi | In fact Frankenstein was based on research coming out of London regarding how the aplication of electricity wasseen to casue muscle spasms in fresh corpses. |
19:43.03 | Wormy_semi_here | Where a moon docks with Koldenwelt at special times |
19:43.13 | Hachiman | A universe where Jules Vernian and H.P. Lovecraftian elements coexist would be weird as fuck |
19:44.36 | drom | Wormy_semi_here: Kinda weird that a sci-fi vampire novel is considered as "Hard" |
19:47.07 | Wormy_semi_here | Which one? |
19:47.28 | drom | "Strain" |
19:47.34 | drom | Both a novel and TV-series |
19:48.57 | Wormy_semi_here | You don't mean "Andromeda Strain" near "Hard sci-fi title"? |
19:49.31 | Hachiman | No, Strain |
19:49.55 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid MonetSemi: Imagine a Fantasyverse equivalent to Blood Bowl |
19:50.33 | drom | No, it is just called "The Strain" but also refered as "Strain". |
19:50.34 | drom | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strain |
19:52.14 | Wormy_semi_here | I can't see Strain |
19:52.29 | Wormy_semi_here | I can see Andromeda Strain, which makes sense |
19:52.43 | ImpyDroid | Shi'a chon end up poking the ball with their armour |
19:52.48 | ImpyDroid | *Shiarchon |
19:53.02 | drom | Wormy_semi_here: Just left to "Hard" |
19:53.04 | OluapPlayer | Shi'a chon |
19:53.08 | OluapPlayer | Shiarchon - JUST DO IT |
19:53.10 | drom | Oh |
19:53.30 | Wormy_semi_here | That is where I'm looking |
19:54.01 | Hachiman | Shia la Chon |
19:54.07 | Wormy_semi_here | Admittedly, there is a gap between the two |
19:54.34 | Wormy_semi_here | I'm glad Stephen Baxter is in there |
19:54.42 | drom | There is a fucking line running throu there too |
19:54.58 | Wormy_semi_here | I'm guessing New Space Opera either has a mix of cyberpunk of hard SF on that map |
19:55.05 | Wormy_semi_here | with space opera |
19:55.06 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: I doubt the Mannazians could do anything against the Sovereignty's greatest Blood Bowl player, John Cenelf |
19:56.12 | drom | Interestingly there is also "New Space Opera" |
19:56.37 | drom | Wormy_semi_here MonetSemi: Get some dawws http://i.imgur.com/wmWl32P.webm |
19:57.16 | Wormy_semi_here | My whippet with his weak jaw takes his time to chew treats |
19:57.32 | Wormy_semi_here | Or for chews, waits for my other dog to soften it |
19:59.09 | Wormy_semi_here | Weak in dog terms, not human terms. He ripped the finger nail off my friend when playing catch by accident |
19:59.52 | Hachiman | Jesus Christ that sounds cringeworthy |
20:00.27 | Wormy_semi_here | My friend happens to be a punk with experience in metalwork. So he crafted himself a metal nail, and glued it back on |
20:00.40 | Wormy_semi_here | And decorated it with screws |
20:02.02 | Wormy_semi_here | But yeah I make my dogs stand back before I pick up the item being caught |
20:04.27 | drom | now that's what I call a funny story |
20:07.08 | Wormy_semi_here | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.52 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman Xho: http://40.media.tumblr.com/73d92cb256d9f146cecd2cffdad9945d/tumblr_nq3xi8BD4L1tu1fv2o1_1280.jpg Please tell me I am not the only one who gets this hur |
20:07.59 | Wormy_semi_here | <PROTECTED> |
20:08.03 | Xho | Oh god |
20:08.25 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
20:09.22 | drom | British people in a nutshell |
20:09.35 | ImpyDroid | JUST BLOW IT |
20:12.01 | Hachiman | SHIA AKBAR |
20:12.18 | Tek0516 | Damnit. Phone almost dead and no charger. Gtg, back in around 5 hours. |
20:12.43 | OluapPlayer | Yesterday you said allah, so just ackbah |
20:12.54 | Hachiman | olol |
20:17.57 | drom | ABKHAZIA ACKBAR |
20:18.36 | drom | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhazia |
20:21.34 | drom | Also the country the crazy slav terrorist utter about in MGS:R |
20:22.37 | Hachiman | Oh yeah, I thought I remembered that name |
20:32.06 | MonetSemi | MG:R is being topical there. |
20:33.42 | Hachiman | MG has always been known for being topical |
20:35.12 | Monet | True |
20:35.36 | Monet | How much do they talk about history again? |
20:35.45 | Monet | (aside from MGS3) |
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20:37.19 | Hachiman | A fair amount |
20:40.30 | Monet | I think the whole mission in Abkhazia relates to when RUssia invaded Georgia in 2008. |
20:44.07 | Monet | "Since independence was recognised by Russia, a series of controversial agreements were made between the Abkhazian government and the Russian Federation that leased or sold a number of key state assets and relinquished control over the borders. In May 2009 several opposition parties and war veteran groups protested against these deals complaining that they undermined state sovereignty and risked exchanging one colonial |
20:44.07 | Monet | power (Georgia) for another (Russia)." |
20:44.30 | Monet | I am reminded of the line "It [the refinery] is no plant for Abkhaz, it is their prison!" |
20:45.24 | drom | His last words also glorifies Akbhaz before blowing himself up with the refinery. |
20:45.53 | Monet | Well he may have had a point |
20:46.24 | Wormy_semi_here | The God Empress protects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtKJCIeozQ8 |
20:46.39 | Wormy_semi_here | *Goddess |
20:46.56 | Monet | In November 2014 the Russian and Abkhazian governments wrote up a deal that would create joint Russian and Abkhazian forces |
20:48.08 | Monet | A lot of Abkhazians were and perhaps still are worried that Russia's final plan is to annex Abkhazia and SOuth Ossetia. |
20:49.13 | Monet | But whether it actually is...dunno. |
20:50.50 | Monet | drom: That crazy terrorist's beliefs about the plant relate I suppose to how Russia is obsessed with control over the world's oil supply. |
20:55.07 | Monet | I can't remember if it was stated whether or not that plant was built after the 2008 invasion. |
20:55.41 | Monet | Actually I'll stop |
20:56.52 | drom | I got to go anyway |
21:02.28 | Monet | I think Putin's imperialism might be t odo with his history as a KGB agent. |
21:05.10 | Hachiman | Eh, I dunno |
21:05.35 | Hachiman | He's not like Stalin since he is also a supporter of the capitalist movement |
21:05.50 | Hachiman | I do think he may be a patriot |
21:05.54 | Hachiman | If slightly hur |
21:06.09 | Monet | "Slightly" |
21:07.10 | Monet | Well he's had Russia attack Georgia and the Ukraine, places historically part of the SOviet UNion |
21:10.49 | Technobliterator | I think his fearlessness has something to do with it |
21:11.18 | Monet | That one is cyclical. |
21:11.52 | Monet | His fearlessness makes hi ma strong leader. |
21:13.03 | Monet | I'd say it contributes to these acts of aggression on former Soviet countries. |
21:14.58 | Wormy_semi_here | The thing is, powerful leaders can distract problems in their own country by displays of paranoia or use of force in another. |
21:15.20 | Wormy_semi_here | Putin is probably getting a lot out of simply standing up the West |
21:15.26 | Monet | Maybe he is motivated to see a new Russian superstate. Or maybe as Wormy suggests, it's all a distraction fro mwhat is really happening. |
21:16.28 | Wormy_semi_here | From what I can see, he is quite a theatrical character in the face of of Russian media. |
21:17.25 | Monet | I'm looking at Russia Today. As I've heard it's state-supported |
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21:18.22 | DrodoEmpire | "I got word that the servers r back up a month ago." |
21:18.23 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
21:19.07 | Wormy_semi_here | Russia Today is strangely very left wing, sometimes I learn of protests in London not even mentioned on the BBC, at all or until they have finished, including one about NHS last year. Though still in the window of propaganda |
21:19.49 | Monet | Most of Russia today is about everyone else. Even their "Russian Politics" section is mostly about what other countries' activities are doing to RUssia. |
21:20.11 | Wormy_semi_here | But a funny moment watching Russia Today was they said Saddam Hussein was found like a "filthy hobo", if that was on BBC or Sky news there would be an uproar from the dogooders |
21:21.10 | Monet | Wait I'm looking at business, not politics. |
21:23.06 | Monet | Yeah I'm jsut skeptical about RT. |
21:23.40 | Monet | They did get investigated by Ofcom several times for the way they handled Ukraine. |
21:25.05 | Monet | I wouldn't expect the BBC to describe Saddam's discovery state as a "filthy hobo" because it just doesn't sound professional. |
21:26.59 | Wormy_semi_here | Another funny news channel I watch is NHK World, Japanese news channel in English. Most of the programming is made to advertise and promote Japan. It has odd and low budget programming. |
21:28.17 | Wormy_semi_here | There was a story about competitive indoor climbing. For some reason they displayed a photograph of a manky injured foot that can happen with inproper footwear, and kept the image onscreen for 3 minutes |
21:28.39 | Monet | Ewww |
21:29.32 | Wormy_semi_here | The program featured this teenage girl who has become famous in Japan. My mother remarked "Yeah, because she is a teenage girl" and concluded the shows have terrible writing |
21:30.15 | Monet | It worked for Miley Cyrus lol. |
21:31.05 | Wormy_semi_here | I'm strangely addicted to NHK, something about its low budgetness is funny |
21:31.32 | Monet | We all have our guilty pleasures. |
21:32.33 | Monet | I myself am rather drawn to the rather over-the-top use of blood in Tarantino films. |
21:32.59 | Wormy_semi_here | NHK is like this 90% of the time even though it is a news channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T208OfMmaHE |
21:34.08 | Monet | QUentin Tarantino land: WHere apparently the human body contains 20 gallons of blood contained at 800+psi |
21:35.27 | Wormy_semi_here | oh well, you can watch it live http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/live/ |
21:35.49 | Wormy_semi_here | They are force feeding chickens alcohol |
21:36.28 | Wormy_semi_here | Actually they are showing a different country for once |
21:37.46 | Wormy_semi_here | Monet: Have you seen Brain Dead by Peter Jackson? |
21:37.58 | Wormy_semi_here | It is so gory it becomes hilarious |
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22:05.24 | The_Randomness | Hello |
22:05.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
22:35.00 | DrodoEmpire | test |
22:49.27 | Wormy_ | https://www.gofundme.com/h55vhess |
22:49.42 | The_Randomness | rip matt damon |
22:49.43 | Wormy_ | I think the world has had enough rescuing Matt Damon |
22:49.46 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
22:49.59 | Hachiman | MATT DAMON |
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23:29.06 | infobot | somebody said test was not funny |
23:29.09 | Wormy_ | Space Engine just crashes on startup now |
23:29.21 | TekPC | so much lag... |
23:29.26 | Wormy_ | I can't even access the menu to play around with the settings. |
23:36.13 | The_Randomness | rip |
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