IRC log for #sporewiki on 20151001

00:00.12The_Randomness?
00:00.43Wormy_> http://imgur.com/gallery/KLh6Jn4
00:01.01The_RandomnessOh yeah, saw that
00:02.24Liquid_InkActually, in some Star Trek movies you see the Starships rotating to match each other.
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01:38.17DrodoEmpiretest
01:39.30Tybusenpass, but on a technicality
01:39.51OfficerJackalHe still pass doe. :D
01:39.57DrodoEmpire<.<
01:40.15Tybusenthe test was curved
01:41.05OfficerJackaland the ball was inert
01:43.55Tybusenbut was the power level over 9000?
01:44.20OfficerJackalperhaps, was the ball squeezed?
01:45.41TekDroidSo I've taken an old program I made for Vincent and have taken it to the point I find it worth including in my coop resume. XD
01:45.51DrodoEmpirehur
01:45.57TybusenWas it the clock?
01:46.10TekDroidNo, it was an election simulation
01:46.53TybusenI'm guessing the number of corporations supporting the candidate determined the winner
01:47.20TekDroidNot yet. :P
01:48.49TybusenI guess you haven't figured how to code the "non-collaboration" with the SuperPACs
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03:50.52TekDroid~seen Vincent20100
03:50.53infobotvincent20100 <46506626@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.80.102.38> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 13d 15h 42m 7s ago, saying: 'Stop posting cool shits faster than I can read them!!!'.
03:51.05TekDroid~Seen ComradeVinny
03:51.05infobotTekDroid: i haven't seen 'comradevinny'
03:51.33TybusenComradeVinny is John Cena
03:52.06Tybusenbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr APPLEDOUGH DOOT DOOT DOOT DOOOOOOOOOOT
03:52.43TekDroidI just used Vincent for a University assignment. :P
03:53.42TybusenWell then obviously that's why he isn't here
03:53.49TekDroidI was doing a resume assignment and I needed applied projects. So I mentioned the program I originally built for a client (Vincent) then continually expanded for over a year. :P
03:54.12TybusenHe's stuck in the packet of code sheets that you sent to your teacher
03:55.34Charles_MurrayYou needed to turn him in as proof
03:55.41Charles_MurrayShh, don't tell the FBI
03:55.45Charles_MurrayOh wait
03:55.50Charles_MurrayYou're in Canada
03:55.55Charles_MurrayDon't tell the mounted police
03:56.10TybusenIllumimountie
03:56.43TekDroidWe have CSIS. Which is like the FBI but better because no one knows it exists. >.>
03:56.48Tybusen*"Eh-x Files Theme plays*
03:58.19TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/tSQgQ4R.png
04:01.42Charles_Murrayhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ee/C-39_Imperiale_A1_Prototype.png/revision/latest?cb=20150930233554
04:01.48Charles_MurrayDid anyone not see this?
04:02.03Charles_MurrayShould I switch over to designing my tanks this way?
04:06.32OfficerJackalGoddamn, that tank looks good. :O
04:07.54OfficerJackalBut yeah, I like the style. Makes the tank look heavier and more armored.
04:09.18TekDroidLooks great. Is the text supposed to be legible though? Too blurry to read
04:09.34Charles_MurrayNope
04:09.38Charles_MurrayMeant to be too blurry ;)
04:09.43Charles_MurrayAlso, you might appreciate this
04:09.47Charles_Murrayhttp://imgur.com/3bcTQfI
04:10.09TekDroidOoh
04:11.30TekDroidI'll try to finish up what I dub "Operation Shattered
04:11.43TekDroid*Operation Shattered Shield
04:11.58TekDroidMaybe a different adjective
04:12.45Charles_MurrayTrying to find ways to weave an encounter like this into fiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ufc2hI4FM&list=RDMMfMMNrth246k&index=27
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08:23.51Liquid_Ink~seen ImpyDroid
08:23.53infobotimpydroid <~yaaic@95.140.92.65> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 10h 25s ago, saying: 'Anyway des'.
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12:38.19Technobliteratordumbo
12:40.20OluapPlayerlosa
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12:45.29Wormy_hi
12:47.24OluapPlayerHi
13:04.34TekDroid... My university student government posted a rap video about voting in its elections that is cringeworthy at best. O.o
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13:19.29TekDroidhttps://youtu.be/0NCzAjV4XkA So this was what my university posted
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13:49.57ImperiosWormy_: https://2ch.hk/mmo/src/6124835/14417875667300.jpg NOOOOOOOOO
13:53.11Wormy_I would walk out the cinema
13:53.55OluapPlayerDarth Mesa
13:54.38OluapPlayerImperios: Do you plan to ever go back to Where Ley Lines Meet?
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14:31.57ImpyDroidHi
14:33.56Charles_MurrayWormy_ : Here's something the DCP will have to deal with in the final stages of the GXS http://imgur.com/3bcTQfI
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14:35.29GhelaeHello.
14:35.36OluapPlayerHi
14:37.23Wormy_DCP - Unleash the wormhole bombs
14:37.31Wormy_Hi
14:38.02GhelaeIsn't that the DCP's response to everything?
14:38.30Wormy_If in doubt, destroy everything.
14:41.10OluapPlayerPerfect solution, just throw black holes at it
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14:51.53Wormy_https://twitter.com/leauxlawolf/status/597387277204086786
14:52.32dromCharles_Murray. Still doesn't beat Homeworld's "The Beast" though
14:53.25Charles_Murraydrom: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ee/C-39_Imperiale_A1_Prototype.png/revision/latest?cb=20150930233554
14:53.47Wormy_https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/649571968388349952
14:53.48dromThe Beast is the most fucking terrifying horror thing the Sci-Fi has evern created
14:54.09dromNice picture, Charles
15:01.34dromWormy_ Ghelae Charles_Murray: Prepare your diapers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcELUCroDs
15:05.04Charles_MurrayIf all else fails, initiate saucer separation
15:06.53Wormy_drom:  It made me laugh for some reason
15:07.12dromWormy_away: Well. What comes after that is even more scary
15:11.00dromCharles_Murray Wormy_away Ghelae: What comes after that: https://youtu.be/pM8OyBBoUhg?t=4m22s
15:18.24Charles_MurrayDrom : Out of curiosity, is it observable that the NS is gearing for universal domination?
15:18.55Charles_Murrayi.e., can it be ascertained through an analysis of their policies, and of their internal rhetoric?
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15:22.32ImperiosOluapPlayer: Yah
15:23.14OluapPlayer2 hours later
15:23.15OluapPlayerrite
15:23.53OluapPlayerI stumbled into that page this morning and I was humoured by how Jo portrayed Kimorgos in the first section
15:23.55OluapPlayer"I AM KIMORGOS. THE SKELETON KING OF BONES."
15:25.18OluapPlayernot just a skeleton, but a bone skeleton
15:25.19OluapPlayerspooky
15:27.36ImperiosKing of Himself
15:28.17OluapPlayerThat's egostistic enough to fit him
15:30.33dromCharles_Murray: Not what I know so far
15:33.56dromCharles_Murray: But still, it is in its heart gearing for that
15:34.37dromOne can however make an evidence-less claim on that by analysing on NS' lean for diplomacy, military and expansion
15:48.52Imperioshttp://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2013/02/babybat580.jpg
15:51.58Technobliteratoroh, sorry
15:52.02Technobliteratordid I do it wrong, Oluap?
15:52.03Technobliterator:c
15:52.14TechnobliteratorMy defense is that it was ages ago
15:52.17OluapPlayerWell, not at the time
15:52.27OluapPlayerBut Kimorgos has been retconned severely since then
15:52.32Technobliteratorah, fair enough
15:52.34OluapPlayerHe's no longer "hurhur boner king"
15:53.08TechnobliteratorI also no longer have non-Loron fantasyverse characters
15:53.25OluapPlayerWhat happened to Sefarina?
15:53.49TechnobliteratorHm
15:53.52TechnobliteratorNon-canon?
15:53.57OluapPlayerbut y
15:54.57ImperiosShe was cool
15:55.19ImperiosI even made a cool model for her
15:55.24Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c7/New_Sefarina_Brightwing.png/revision/latest?cb=20140905165425
15:56.02OluapPlayerI've not seen that before
15:56.05OluapPlayerLooks pretty good
15:56.29TechnobliteratorOnly reason is, I'm not really able to use her, so there's no real point
15:59.10dromImperios: Nice model that
16:06.15Wormy_awayImperios:  I remember when we all believed human faces were impossible
16:06.24Imperiosheh
16:06.51ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://cs543104.vk.me/v543104305/e6fe/o4vmNXF9IM8.jpg
16:07.07OluapPlayerKalcedia
16:09.31Wormy_awayGhelae:  I believe that's a justified edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_states_of_matter&type=revision&diff=683620943&oldid=680348289
16:10.24Wormy_awayI'm expecting a hawky Wikipedian to rvt me though.
16:10.49GhelaeIt looks justified to me.
16:11.15Ghelae"Information" wasn't even linked to properly and there was no reference demonstrating its state-of-matter-ness.
16:12.04Wormy_awayIndeed.  In fact there might be better ways of organising that article's lists
16:12.16GhelaeIt also blatantly doesn't fit the definition of a state of matter given in the list's opening paragraphs.
16:13.28GhelaeIt was added https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_states_of_matter&diff=prev&oldid=678461015 in case you're wondering.
16:14.06Wormy_awayI see
16:14.41Wormy_awaySo its a recent addition and probably not patrolled by physics-minded Wikipedians
16:15.00GhelaeCorrect. The only edits between that and yours were vandalism and reverts.
16:15.40Wormy_awayI'm going to read this now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gkochanowsky/explanatism
16:16.23Wormy_away"For example, a person sees a burning bush that talks. That is the phenomenon. Saying that it was a manifestation of god is an explanation. The same phenomenon could be explaned as a prank, or a hallucination. There are many other possible explanations some of which may differ from one another by only insignificant details."
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16:17.09Wormy_awayExplanations differ by how good (hard to vary + testable) and how bad they are (easy to vary while accounting for said phenomenon)
16:17.49Wormy_awayGreeks could have easily varied their Seasons myth if they knew seasns were different in the southern hemisphere
16:18.30Wormy_awayAnyway, I better read further down before I cast judgment too soon
16:23.46Wormy_awayEh, I don't think its too bad, looks like he is trying to look how how science, religion and philosophy prefer their mode of explanation.  What I would add to that is that good theory tends to be open-ended to criticism, while bad ones try to resist from using criticism
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16:28.04Wormy_awayLooks like the user is trying to add his ideas to Wikipedia articles
16:33.22Wormy_awayI look forward to learning what applications this might open up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photonic_molecule
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16:53.02HachimanHai
16:56.21GhelaeHello.
16:56.49Wormy_awayhi
17:47.00dromSo I watched four 30 min parts recapturing Homeworld: Cataclysm, I'm satisified
17:52.26dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/YYiXfxy.webm
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17:54.32dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/Tn2RY8e.jpg
17:54.55OluapPlayerbah where's Xho
18:01.00dromTek0516 OfficerJackal: http://i.imgur.com/zD8cwPy.jpg
18:01.15Tek0516O.o
18:01.18OfficerJackalhue
18:02.39dromOfficerJackal Tek0516 Ghel Charles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/lC4mGIT.jpg
18:03.01OfficerJackalAhaha.
18:06.58Tek0516O.o
18:12.01dromHachiman Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/7heWQ4r.png
18:12.16Wormy_Hachiman:  Remember Top Media?  I found Matt's secret channel
18:12.33Wormy_It turns out he doesn't own Top Media, but voices it
18:13.00Imperiosdrom: Tumblr's infection is spreading
18:13.49Wormy_Hachiman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmaLtlTPS3M
18:14.07Wormy_3:50 is funny
18:14.23OfficerJackaldrom: "wahh someone thinks differently then me!!!!!!!! ;-;"
18:14.41HachimanWormy_: Huh nice
18:14.41OfficerJackalthan*
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18:16.03JepardiHi
18:16.15dromHey
18:16.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/THSOvRA
18:16.48dromWormy_: What do you think of my pick of name for an ocean planet?
18:16.49Wormy_drom:  Ever wondered?  http://imgur.com/gallery/KLh6Jn4
18:17.01Wormy_Haven't seen it
18:17.34dromWormy_: "That's the beauty of the Borg spheres and cubes"
18:18.48dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/XmIzItE.png
18:19.12Wormy_Yes, it does fit.  Is that for that collab universe?
18:19.30dromActually I send you a picture of the whole draft I had in my notepad, but this will suffice regarding the planet nameoculture
18:19.38dromWormy_: Depends
18:20.26dromI'm still drafting in a moral limbo between Sporewikiverse and leaving Sporewikiverse to create settle on my own.
18:20.59Wormy_not if you have astigmatism http://imgur.com/gallery/4bRY5KT
18:22.06dromWormy_: By the way, I have never seen that Star Trek derp, that's funny.
18:22.18Wormy_that's good
18:23.11Wormy_I don't think I could join another universe, I'm too absorbed in ours.  I do want to join the Fantasyverse but that won't be possible in the concievable future so I'm giving my ideas to others
18:23.49Wormy_I'm happy for people to use Xa'In and Korishima, and the Lunsincth
18:24.06dromThat's nice
18:25.40OfficerJackalhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/us/oregon-college-shooting/index.html - Shit.
18:26.34HachimanI could share the Islanders with Imp maybe
18:26.50HachimanIf he doesn't wanna share, I don't mind having them to myself
18:27.01Wormy_Hachiman, Imperios:  http://imgur.com/gallery/StbDEhm
18:27.09dromOfficerJackal: 'murica!
18:27.17ImperiosOooh I could use them
18:27.32Wormy_Sure, I don't mind anyone using my stuff for the Fantasyverse
18:27.53Wormy_Although I would still like to make a Jules Vernian story one day
18:28.10ImperiosI wanted to use them for a while
18:28.23OfficerJackalDrom: Yeah, article says he was detained, I'm surprised he didn't kill himself when the authorities arrived. Well, at least that's what the word detained would imply.
18:28.33HachimanThen you can have Islanders as a whole, I actually got enough on my plate already as it is hu
18:28.35Hachimanhur
18:30.00ImperiosMORE HUMANS
18:30.01ImperiosMINE
18:30.02ImperiosALL MINE
18:30.41HachimanI am fine with Germans and Celts hur
18:30.43drom"It's all about me! All about me! Me! Me! Me!"
18:30.51HachimanPlus I already have weaboo bunnies
18:31.14Wormy_Hachiman:  In that case, yoiu can have the Eireland parishers
18:31.16dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/wZvXJSh.jpg
18:31.35HachimanEireland?
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18:32.36Wormy_Another one of my people's.  I was going to do a story about a man who was born in Xa'In finding his way home, halfway across Koldenwelt starting from a place like Viking Age Britain
18:34.09ImperiosSteampunk Chinese Celtic Viking
18:34.13ImperiosThat's fucking awesome
18:34.28Wormy_Indeed
18:34.44OluapPlayerI was gonna ask if I could have the Lunsincth but I imagine Imp already has his eyes on them
18:34.50Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80
18:34.58Wormy_On the way he would meet Chinese dragons too, the Lunsincth
18:35.02ImperiosThem "i"s
18:35.09ImperiosThem "i"s in my Cyrillic
18:35.15ImperiosThis can only mean one thing
18:35.17ImperiosA Ukrainian
18:35.19ImperiosA UKRAINIAN
18:35.21Wormy_I suggest you lot share these fictions
18:35.40dromImperios: This is how my client renders it http://i.imgur.com/FLaBHRL.png
18:35.54ImperiosLook at his username
18:36.13Wormy_"%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80" in the url
18:36.26HachimanI was more referring to my nation Aos'mara - an island nation off the northern coast of Koldenwelt - when I said "Celtic", though I imagine that Eireland could be a daughter kingdom of the Ferric Domain established on the mainland in conquered Mannazian lands
18:36.39ImperiosMaybe they're related
18:36.41HachimanAos'marans are supposed to be largely Scottish-inspired
18:36.55Wormy_That sounds like a good idea for the Eirelanders
18:37.00ImperiosHell maybe the one is more similar to French Celts and the other to British Celts
18:37.16dromImperios Wormy_: My web browser still renders it flawlessly. http://i.imgur.com/9QwaUtf.png
18:37.27HachimanI dunno if the Irish can count as French Celts hur
18:38.15ImperiosThey are not in France
18:38.21ImperiosSo they're not French Celts hur
18:38.43HachimanWait are you referring to Normans
18:39.14Robotickingin koldenwelt, are there any places and/or empires that are akin to the undead or arachnids?
18:39.48HachimanExosubstratal, Outworlders, Lympharians
18:39.50ImperiosWeren't these Germanic
18:39.59HachimanNormans are French-Viking
18:40.00ImperiosI mean Brittany
18:40.12ImperiosAnd Vikings were Germanic hur
18:40.16OluapPlayerLympharians are not undead or arachnids
18:40.59Hachimaninb4 there are disputes across Eireland between churches of Ahmalhrich and churches of Isiris
18:41.08GhelRoboticking: As for arachnids, look at http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Theriocephali for all beast races - there's nothing unamibguously arachnid in there, but there are a few arachnid-like creatures.
18:41.50Robotickingalright, thank you
18:41.50ImperiosAnd then the Empire starves Eireland to death
18:42.17HachimanActually considering Eirelanders are descendant from Aos'maran conquerers and conquered Mannazians, I dunno if Ahmalhrich would hold major influence
18:42.56Technobliteratorhng
18:43.00ImperiosHachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/11064656/14437034048640.webm
18:43.01Technobliteratorhow do I get this png into spore
18:43.05HachimanEireland would probably hold Isiris and some Aos'maran figure in high regard as their two main faiths with Ahmalhrich being a lesser third power
18:43.30OluapPlayerI was wondering how Lunsincth would interact with Thunder Drakes since they are also chinese dragons
18:43.52HachimanImperios: EVERYBODY FUCKING JUMP
18:44.20ImperiosThunder Drake - DISHONORABRU PRETENDURU
18:45.00HachimanI like how oriental stuff - Thunder Drakes, Lagosi, Munki, elves - come from the West in Koldenwelt
18:45.27OluapPlayer>oriental      >elves
18:45.30dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/wZvXJSh.jpg
18:45.33OluapPlayerThere are elves everywhere in the world
18:45.46HachimanWell I was more referring to Aithrena
18:46.02HachimanBut then again, Aithrena are not *that* oriental
18:46.07OluapPlayerThey're not the only elves in the world excuse u
18:46.08Wormy_funny how animals pick hard surfaces and cavities for comfort
18:46.32OluapPlayerIt's like you forgot the Erylia and Khalmartia exist hur
18:46.50HachimanImperios: I imagine Alhassal would value Eirelanders for their innate skill in constructing and planting bombs :p
18:47.01OluapPlayerlik ur own ainus
18:47.14dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/R3sfvUs.gif http://i.imgur.com/F9kHGrA.webm get more of demn mini floofs
18:47.15ImperiosOluapPlayer: Oriental as in similar to Oriental people
18:47.17Hachimanits an ira joke u dum
18:47.31OluapPlayerfuk ur emoticon
18:47.41ImperiosHachiman: LIBERATION
18:47.58dromImperios: LIBERATOR
18:48.02OluapPlayerStill
18:48.10OluapPlayerI ship Thunder Drakes with Lunsincth
18:48.14Imperios*Asian Russian face*
18:48.17Hachiman>Aos'marans rebel against membership with the Empire       >Eirelanders rebel against Aos'marans for mainland independence
18:48.26Technobliteratorwhat
18:48.27OluapPlayerThey wrap themselves around each other all spaghetti-like
18:48.31dromImperios: *on a Liberator plane*
18:48.31HachimanRebellious rebels who rebel against rebels
18:48.41Technobliteratorwhy is the create captain option greyed out
18:49.00ImperiosAnd then the Empire slips them whisky
18:49.07dromrebels who rebel against rebels rebelling against a rebellion of rebels on a former rebellion country
18:49.09HachimanI am quite surprised there are no Russian humans yet
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18:49.40ImperiosWell there is Saphronia but it is not purely Russian
18:49.41OluapPlayerPolar Lands humans notorious for their great strength and for inventing the mysterious drink known as vodka
18:50.09OluapPlayerTheir leader is chosen via a bear-wrestling contest
18:50.09ImperiosAnd the Empire IN GENERAL tends to act like Russia
18:50.50OluapPlayerAynach - yall weird as shit
18:50.54ImperiosAka huge multicultural xenophobic paranoid country full of angry people
18:51.04OluapPlayerAynach - cept us
18:51.28ImperiosThat have an enemy in the West in form of a huge empire of rich liberty-loving people
18:51.42Wormy_drom: dose paws
18:51.56OluapPlayerI suppose Aynach is the Empire's gay minority then
18:52.11HachimanAynach is probably the Empire's more rational minority hur
18:52.16ImperiosJavina - BAN AYNACHIAN PROPAGANDA
18:52.17dromWormy_: *tic* You reminded me of something... lemme surface it!
18:52.18OluapPlayerNo wonder Norrigan is fruity
18:52.40Technobliteratoryeah this is
18:52.42Technobliteratortotal bullshit
18:52.44OluapPlayerNorrigan - gimme a hug
18:52.44dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/XbgiKie.jpg
18:52.56Technobliteratorthe option to edit a captain is completely greyed out
18:53.07OluapPlayerJust copy the template from another page
18:53.10OluapPlayerNot that difficulty
18:53.18HachimanIt's not even greyed ou
18:53.20Hachimanout even
18:53.23HachimanI can still do it
18:53.31Technobliteratorthe whole edit button
18:53.34Robotickingso for the fantasy world, we are allowed to start a fiction there as well in the fiction universe?
18:53.35Technobliteratoranything aside from play adventure
18:53.37Technobliteratorgreyed out
18:53.39Technobliteratorthis is stupid
18:53.40ImperiosThen again the Empire is also a multiracial empire founded by rebel colonists that are obsessed with freedom
18:53.42dromWormy_: Wait! There is more! http://i.imgur.com/k63cSri.jpg
18:53.43ImperiosSo maybe they're not Russia
18:54.04OluapPlayerOh
18:54.04GhelRoboticking: Yes.
18:54.05HachimanRoboticking: Yes
18:54.10OluapPlayerYou're in game
18:54.10RobotickingExcellent
18:54.13OluapPlayerI thought you were on about Captain pages
18:54.24RobotickingAnd I have my race for it, i will be back
18:54.30OluapPlayerIt's greyed out because you're meant to play the Adventure Town mission before editing
18:55.02ImperiosI actually remember making a sort of national animal for the Empire
18:55.07dromWormy_: And dis https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8119/8674066415_630e01105c_k.jpg
18:55.09HachimanAynach does still exist, right?
18:55.12ImperiosIt was a bear/bald eagle gryphon
18:55.17OluapPlayerWhy would it not?
18:55.21HachimanOr did Tibias just totally destroy it
18:55.31OluapPlayeru didnt even reed their section
18:55.39OluapPlayerAynach is not a single city
18:55.47HachimanImperios: Aye, symbolic of the respective tribes of Mannazia and Alhassal
18:55.56HachimanRight was just making sure
18:56.13OluapPlayerTibias just destroyed Visonia, which was their former capital
18:56.25Technobliteratorfixed the problem
18:56.30Technobliteratorby heading there
18:56.39Technobliteratornow every time I edit a captain
18:56.47OluapPlayerTheir current capital is called Solaris and they live some distance from the Erylia Elves
18:56.52Technobliteratorit thinks I'm holding down the alt button
18:56.55Robotickingwhere would you suggest a race of Spider/Human hybrids live on Koldenwelt?
18:56.55Technobliterator?????
18:57.08OluapPlayerWherever you want
18:58.00OluapPlayerAynach neighbours the Sovereignty's eastern cities and also the Southern Vermin Kingdom
18:58.06HachimanSpider / Human hybrids as in they were once separate entities or hybrids as in they just happen to have parts from both species?
18:58.12OluapPlayerSo they must have some rat problems every once in a while
18:58.28Robotickinghybrids as they are a mix of both species
18:58.32HachimanAynach - shoo
18:58.50OluapPlayerAynach - skaven are real                Empire - DON'T BELIEVE THEIR LIES
18:58.52Robotickinglike they have venom/ silk weavers along with arms coming from their backs
18:59.19ImperiosI just realised I had a Mannazian flag saved on my drive for months
18:59.19HachimanRoboticking: Well I meant, are they artificial hybirds - as in they were *made* that way - or are they naturally like that?
18:59.30TechnobliteratorI may not be able to make this captain
18:59.32Technobliteratorbah
18:59.36Robotickinghmmm
19:00.09RobotickingHachiman: would there be any powers in Koldenwelt capable of transforming humans into spider hybrids
19:00.11Roboticking?
19:00.16HachimanDark magic
19:00.23HachimanArcane transmogrification magic
19:01.00HachimanI remember Alfgund saying that many cities and towns throughout Mannazia tell scary tales and bedtime stories about large rats that eat children in the night
19:01.14OluapPlayerYes, on the Terefah's top quote
19:01.36HachimanHe also brings it up in the Vampire War when they explore Terefah caves
19:02.04RobotickingAlright
19:02.04OluapPlayerTerefah - we don't eat children             raw
19:02.46HachimanI wonder what nation Aynach would equate to in the real world
19:02.51HachimanProbably something like Canada hur
19:03.02OluapPlayerI didn't base them on anything in specific
19:03.15OluapPlayerI just made them a friendly nation as opposed to everyone's rampant racism
19:03.31HachimanMannazia is only rampant racists towards elves and that is not unfounded hur
19:03.34OluapPlayerif i must make humies then they'll be as contrarian as possible
19:03.43OluapPlayerAlhassal seems pretty racist too
19:04.05HachimanOh yeah, Alhassal is far more elitist and universally racist than Mannazia
19:04.44OluapPlayerIf Finkrath had attacked Aynach instead of the Erylia, he'd probably have won
19:05.08OluapPlayerSame for the Hikamera
19:05.09HachimanMannazia - NO ONE SHALL ATTACK OUR LITTLE BROTHERS
19:05.22OluapPlayerFinkrath - I CAN YELL LOUDER THAN YOU *burned landscape*
19:05.55OluapPlayerReally the only reason he lost was because he was an arrogant shit, which is typical for adult Fire Drakes
19:06.22Robotickingfantasy fiction fall under the same creators (i.e. main page of wiki) as the fiction universe?
19:06.39HachimanYes
19:06.49OluapPlayerHe lost to a woman roughly 20 times smaller than him because he got cocky
19:07.18HachimanTo be fair, said woman is also an extremely skilled veteran wyvernrider and adventurer
19:07.35HachimanIt would not be embarassing to lose to Filonan
19:07.45OluapPlayerIt is for a 10,000+ year old dragon
19:08.59OluapPlayerOther Fire Drakes are unlikely to learn of his death to Filonan, but if they did, he'd probably be mocked a lot for it
19:09.26HachimanThat or Filonan gets a reputation amongst Fire Drakes for it
19:09.32OluapPlayerNope
19:09.37Hachimanwell den dats dum
19:09.53OluapPlayerFire Drakes are too arrogant to recognize a gnat like Filonan as an equal
19:10.18OluapPlayerThey're a destructive chaotic evil race, you're expecting a bit too much of them
19:10.36ImperiosOluapPlayer: Alhassal is more "sophisticated snob" kind of racism
19:10.39Imperios*racist
19:10.42OluapPlayerStill racist
19:11.20Hachiman>defeats a direct son of Interivastius almost single-handedly with fire magic and weaponry after he empowered himself   >"haha must be because Finkrath let her win or something"
19:11.36OluapPlayerExacty
19:11.55OluapPlayerThat or "man turns out he was a  weakling, lost to a fucking elf"
19:12.27HachimanFire Drakes are assholes hur
19:12.38OluapPlayerThat's kinda the point
19:12.53OluapPlayerErylians are also not really famed for their dragon-killing skills, since they do not hunt dragons at all
19:13.26OluapPlayerThe Finkrath event was the first time the Wyvernriders ever combated a true dragon
19:13.44HachimanStill, before Finkrath, Filonan had a hand in defeating Dornmuunon and the Petroatragal
19:14.11OluapPlayerDornmuunon didn't die and the Petroatragal was not a dragon and was not as powerful as Finkrath
19:14.23OluapPlayerPlus no one but Filonan's party and the Mikmik are even aware of it
19:15.13OluapPlayerAnd there's the fact Filonan didn't fight Dornmuunon by herself. She had a whole army on her side
19:15.14HachimanI thought Filonan was on Hyperion in the first place in order to gather intel and report it to the Sovereignty
19:15.30OluapPlayerThey detected a dark presence in the area
19:15.32HachimanSo others must know of her defeating the Petroatragal
19:15.34OluapPlayerWhat it was is not known
19:15.45OluapPlayerNor has Filonan shared it with the public
19:16.23OluapPlayerIf anything she'd rather forget it existed, since it links directly to Zarmagahla
19:16.52HachimanI suppose that's fair enough
19:17.10HachimanImperios: I can imagine it now; Eirish knights and Inquisitors hur
19:17.13OluapPlayerI can see her having spent many nights suffering from nightmares due to it
19:17.37Hachimanand den many nites havin wet dreems bout khadya
19:17.47dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/tDjKrmW.png?1
19:17.52OluapPlayerZarmagahla whispered directly into Filonan and Khadya's minds. It's not something mortals can endure easily
19:18.12HachimanSaranhreia - girls        why are you screaming
19:18.17dromThat "mac tire"
19:18.22OluapPlayerI don't know how Khadya reacted but Filonan was definitely scarred by it
19:18.40HachimanI imagine Khadya suffered for it as well if Filonan did
19:19.00HachimanAlthough she is probably far more likely to tell tales of her venture fighting it
19:19.23ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4a/Aynach_Flag.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151001191908 'Ere you go
19:19.24HachimanProbably keeping Filonan's name out of the story out of respect for her
19:19.35OluapPlayerImperios: Tastylicious
19:19.59Imperiosdrom: Swedish Hipsters
19:20.12Imperios"From *wargaz, to constrict*
19:20.19ImperiosI guess Swedes are into that
19:20.41OluapPlayerI like the symbol on the center
19:20.45OluapPlayerLooks like an eye
19:21.12OluapPlayerI can also see it being interpreted as being the sun, since Aynachs all love the sun as much as Norrigan does
19:21.12ImperiosIt IS an eye hur
19:21.21ImperiosA sun-eye maybe
19:21.33OluapPlayerNorrigan sees the sun as being Isiris's eyeball
19:21.42Imperioshttp://previews.123rf.com/images/yunusoglu/yunusoglu1101/yunusoglu110100183/8667297-Turkish-Amulet-Evil-Eye--Stock-Photo.jpg Based on that thing I saw in Turkey
19:21.59OluapPlayerAynach - staring contest
19:21.59dromWormy_ Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/RdNhhTT.webm
19:22.06HachimanMy first Eirish character shall be a red-headed knight called Patrick Potatofist
19:22.20OluapPlayerwat
19:22.32Hachimancus stereotypes
19:22.41GhelIt's a fist for mashing.
19:22.46OluapPlayerStill I wonder how Aynachians are treated by other humans
19:22.52ImperiosFighting Jack Irestarver
19:22.56HachimanHis nickname shall be Sir Paddy
19:23.12HachimanAynachians are probably treated as equals by Mannazians considering they come from the same tree
19:24.03ImperiosAlhassans would probably be on neutral terms with them
19:24.42OluapPlayerThe Alhassans in the Splinter section seemed hesitant toward Norrigan
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19:25.17HachimanAlthough Mannazia probably stereotypes Aynachians as being too kind for their own good and as hippies
19:25.19ImperiosThey were more concerned than outright angry
19:25.31ImperiosNow I imagine Manorians would hire them as mercenaries
19:26.26OluapPlayerNorrigan's Templar form is what typical Aynach knights look and act like
19:26.27OluapPlayerie far from hippies
19:26.42HachimanWell I meant the general people of Aynach
19:26.51OluapPlayerI get it, I'm just saying
19:27.07HachimanSun/nature-worshipping liberals hur
19:27.20OluapPlayerThe common folk are very welcoming but the knights are very strict and very srs bsns
19:27.51OluapPlayerThat's why the Knights of the All-Seeing were a separate bunch, because they were knights who acted like common folk
19:29.11OluapPlayerVastly respected for their achievements, but likely seen as a reckless and undisciplined lot
19:29.22OluapPlayerWhich is probably why no one ever bothered trying to revive the order
19:29.33HachimanPeople's knights rather than nobles' knights
19:29.47OluapPlayerYes
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19:30.21OluapPlayerYou don't have to worry about growling levitating black knights in Aynach though, Norrigan is the only one like that
19:31.30HachimanI like to think that Mannazian-Aynachian couples are a roughly commonplace thing
19:31.44OluapPlayerI'm sorry if I took over the conversation but I want to be relevant hur
19:31.54HachimanIt's all good hur
19:33.39dromWormy_: Just fyi, both the Nixcut and 1211 Aegis names are based on two spiritual figures from Nordic/Germanic folklore
19:33.51dromNixctu*
19:34.27roboawayhow common are tier 4-5 nations in Koldenwelt, and which do you suggest for starting out?
19:34.44HachimanWe do have a Fantasy tier scale somewhere
19:35.21Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:9988/Fantasy_universe_tier_scale We honestly need to work on this
19:35.58ImperiosI actually wonder how Alhassal interacts with the rest of the Empire now
19:36.16ImperiosThey do not have any estabilished relationships outside of a feud with Mannazia
19:36.37GhelaeWormy_: We have another tier scale to fix! :P
19:37.07GhelaeI think I did have some say in how that one was made. Which is why higher number = more advanced.
19:37.39HachimanWe generally like to keep more advanced nations as being smaller and a bit more constrained
19:37.58roboawayok
19:38.16Robotickingwhich one do you recommend for a beginning nation/
19:38.17Roboticking?*
19:38.21ImperiosI oo not think tech scale works here
19:38.35HachimanI think it does
19:38.58HachimanRoboticking: Generally Tier 5
19:39.41dromWormy_ Ghelae: There are three types of people in bars: http://i.imgur.com/dgjJkXx.webm
19:39.47RobotickingOk
19:39.57Roboticking(I speak of fantasy of course)
19:41.15GhelaeFor fantasy, we don't want a load of industrial or post-industrial technology because then that would risk changing the whole theme of it. But anything else is fine.
19:41.17ImperiosI mean we have MAGIK which sort of interferes into this
19:41.25Wormy_lol
19:41.39OluapPlayerAnything more advanced than Middle Ages tech is a red flag
19:42.09HachimanBut
19:42.12HachimanKhaepsha
19:42.16HachimanShiarchon
19:42.20HachimanAlhassal
19:42.31ImperiosOluapPlayer: Jokes on you, there were automaton maids in the Middle Ages
19:42.36Hachimanbrb dinner
19:42.40OluapPlayerRED FLAG
19:42.45OluapPlayerBAD FICTION ALL OF THEM
19:43.39Wormy_Wtf http://imgur.com/RdNhhTT
19:43.48Wormy_I bet that's blood pressure in the skin really
19:43.50Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Al-Jazari#Drink-serving_waitress
19:44.15ImperiosRobot maid
19:44.28OluapPlayerdestroyable by swords and arrows
19:44.30OluapPlayerPassable
19:44.49OluapPlayerYou know very well what I mean
19:45.34Wormy_Ghelae, drom:  Should Tier U go from the fantasy scale?
19:45.44ImperiosWell technically guns did not trump arrows until much later on
19:45.53dromWormy_: Hm?
19:45.59OluapPlayerdont u "technically" me
19:46.04OluapPlayerYou know what I meant
19:46.14GhelaeIf we're going to have a scale we should at least try to make sure we don't need a Tier U.
19:47.11GhelaeDescribe the Tier U-like possibilities if you like, but don't lump them all together and leave them there with nothing.
19:47.42OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/xoI3FXD.jpg
19:47.54OluapPlayerand https://36.media.tumblr.com/058d1b3099d4b143bd243be44562902d/tumblr_nvg9ckBjJp1qak5mro1_500.png
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19:48.07GhelaeHello.
19:48.16ImperiosSo what kind of tiers could we have?
19:48.31Technobliteratorhahahahaha
19:48.54DrodoEmpireHey everyone
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19:49.13RobotickingHow should territory suggestions be quantified for fantasy universe?
19:49.45GhelWe could start the tiers by considering real-world developments as in the current version, and then consider how magical developments will change things.
19:49.47ImperiosTribal -> Bronze Age/Iron Age (like Egypt or Assyria) -> Late Iron Age (Rome/Han China) -> Low Medieval (Medieval Europe) -> High Medieval (Renaissance Italy/Islamic Golden Age) -> Techy?
19:49.51Robotickinglike tier 3 fiction universe have a few thousands-10 thousand
19:50.07DrodoEmpireI'd say square kilometres but actual terrain makes that hard.
19:50.32DrodoEmpireI'd think 500 square kilometres of fertile farmland would be far more valuable than a thousand square kilometres of steppe
19:50.57GhelRoboticking: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5f/KoldenweltTMapCurrent.png/revision/latest?cb=20150930013606 Here's a map. Go wherever you like, but don't stand out too much. :P
19:51.05GhelAs Drodo says, terrain is also important.
19:51.15DrodoEmpireAnd yeah terrain would be a *huge* thing in the fantasy universe too; Culture and race are all shaped by geography after all.
19:51.29GhelA fair amount of the map is desert and tundra. But there's also a lot of unclaimed forest to the west.
19:51.33GhelAnd south.
19:51.39OluapPlayerKeep in mind the available territory is much less restricted since we have an arguably finite space
19:51.40DrodoEmpireForest could be really valuable
19:52.15OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12049210_465551930236487_8107853006116490966_n.jpg?oh=e92794281eca7cc08d130a5dc12c3d5c&oe=56A0FD29
19:52.20DrodoEmpireLots of construction material and with deforestation potentially fertile lan
19:52.21DrodoEmpire*land
19:52.23GhelImperios: Hmm... we can consider that scheme.
19:52.52Robotickingok
19:53.06OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/TKkjUNt.png
19:53.08RobotickingI was thinking the western forest Ghel, as spiders weave their webs to trees
19:53.14Robotickingand I could use that in the fiction
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19:53.51GhelaeImperios: Can you repeat that tier scale idea you mentioned?
19:54.05OluapPlayer[16:49] <Imperios> Tribal -> Bronze Age/Iron Age (like Egypt or Assyria) -> Late Iron Age (Rome/Han China) -> Low Medieval (Medieval Europe) -> High Medieval (Renaissance Italy/Islamic Golden Age) -> Techy?
19:54.14OluapPlayer2fast4u
19:54.15GhelaeThanks.
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19:54.45GhelaeCurrently everything between "Tribal" and "Techy" is under "Classical", so we could expand on that.
19:54.47OluapPlayerspu
19:54.50GhelaeHello.
19:55.26GhelaeBut "Low Medieval" there is really marked by the fall of the Western Roman Empire, right? So that can't be considered to be representative of typical advancement.
19:55.52DrodoEmpireEhh.
19:56.17GhelaeYes, the question mark is for people there to comment rather than being rhetorical.
19:56.33GhelaeI'm a physicist, not a historian.
19:56.36DrodoEmpireI dunno...
19:56.43XhoHello hello
19:56.47OluapPlayerwhere u been
19:57.02XhoWork and guitar stuff
19:57.07OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oSokwU3KU
19:57.13XhoThen I was watching Grand Designs
19:57.17Tek0516Feudalism resulted from the development of states that lacked a bureaucratic structure as the Romans did, to my understanding
19:57.21DrodoEmpireI'm a little out of it riight now but I mean we should define this tier more on actual technologies as opposed to comparing them to time periods
19:57.28GhelaeI know there was development throughout the Middle Ages; it wasn't just a complete social regression.
19:57.49DrodoEmpireMilitary technology in particular didn't take much of a blow after the fall of the Roman Empire. :p
19:58.04DrodoEmpireI believe agricultural and administrative technology was the worst effected
19:58.06DrodoEmpireBut even then
19:58.08GhelaeThat's partly what I was thinking: so what technologies really correspond to a Low Medieval tier and distinguish it from both the Late Iron Age and High Medieval?
19:58.23XhoWell
19:58.29OluapPlayerproblem afoot
19:58.39OluapPlayerAlso http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Simulacra#Artifacts should interest you that I've added Zran kar's toys
19:58.59DrodoEmpireWell the difference between the 400's and 1400's are quite significant, so I mean there has to be *something* to bridge the gap.
19:59.02Xhofinally
19:59.03Xhou bitch
19:59.31dromXho: "My middle finger gets a boner everytime I see you"
19:59.44GhelaeUntil recently on Koldenwelt we had tens of thousands of years with nothing to bridge the gap. :P
20:00.34OluapPlayerBut we fixed that
20:00.38DrodoEmpireI'm more military history so I can't speak for anything else, but I mean the "low" middle ages were important for the introduction of several major technologies; In particular, the stirrup, the couched lance, the long sword and plate armour.
20:00.39OluapPlayerOnly took us years
20:00.49XhoWell it was mostly Orichalcum Elves being eternal dictators
20:00.52XhoMuch like North Korea
20:00.55XhoBut longer
20:00.58DrodoEmpireAs well as better crossbows and the trebuchet
20:01.09XhoAll hail our glorious golden piercings and whatnot
20:01.16OluapPlayerGot shrekd just like North Korea too
20:01.35XhoConstantius - soldalatel didn't check herself                shrekd herself
20:01.45DrodoEmpireSo I mean in terms of military tech I think its important to have a distinction to represent the period where such technologies formed from classical advancements, and reach their zenith in the "High" middle ages
20:01.46XhoHuh why did I type Constantius rather than Kalarah
20:01.49OluapPlayerIf the OriElves are North Korea
20:01.55OluapPlayerThen the Shiarchon are the Norther Korea
20:02.41XhoKalarah is the Eternal Emperor of Doom
20:02.56OluapPlayerfits cus they're both a bunch of lil shits
20:02.59Wormy_Ghelae:  In some ways the early middle ages were more and less advanced than the Ancient Greeks and Romans
20:03.03OluapPlayeralso chek artifacts
20:03.08XhoI did
20:03.09Xhogud ups
20:03.19XhoI was expecting the All Knowing to be more red or black
20:03.24DrodoEmpireWormy: The major difference was that medieval states were far less organized
20:03.34Wormy_Ghelae:  But one main difference between these ages was their opennness to technology
20:03.38DrodoEmpireSo I say that administrative technology was in a big part lost
20:03.45OluapPlayerI don't know what Kinmo did to the Simulacra artifacts which did not get stolen
20:03.46DrodoEmpireAnd had to be rediscovered
20:03.54XhoHe likely returned them to ther owners
20:03.58Xhotheir*
20:04.04Wormy_The Greeks for example developed steam, but it was a mere toy and they didn't seem to industralise it
20:04.09Tek0516Yes, I think social and administrative were the real differences
20:04.11XhoExcept the Void stuff of course
20:04.15OluapPlayerSo Leucocytus got the Haemophagist back
20:04.18Wormy_So I suggest tiers be ranked by how enlightened they are
20:04.20OluapPlayerLeucocytus - thanks dingus
20:04.24XhoKinmo - shup
20:04.24Wormy_bbl dinner
20:04.36RobotickingI must go for now, farewell
20:04.53XhoI was thinking "Half of the Simulacrum artifacts in Nalashtannylor's control" > Kinmo - what the fuck was I doing while I was dead
20:05.08Tek0516I don't think Greek steam technology was very practical without some crucial later technologies though
20:05.10DrodoEmpireEnlightened? Hard to quantify, no?
20:05.12GhelaePerhaps we could consider developments in other parts of the world where there wasn't such political changes (assuming there were places without the collapse of major empires and their replacement with smaller feudal states)?
20:05.29GhelaeRather than comparing it solely to western Europe.
20:05.31DrodoEmpireI'd say China but even it collapsed several times.
20:05.46DrodoEmpireThough it never really suffered a catastrophic "dark age"
20:05.57DrodoEmpireChina may actually be a more typical example of "civilization" really
20:06.11GhelaeA global view might help anyway.
20:06.17OluapPlayerSea Witch - crapping diapers
20:06.32DrodoEmpireReally no area on earth didn't have empires that didn't collapse. They all did. They're bound to after a few centuries
20:06.36Tek0516Large empires forming by military then collapsing for some reason or another are pretty common
20:07.14ImperiosBut China was slow as fuck
20:07.18Tek0516Europe, Asia, sub-saharan Africa.
20:07.28ImperiosThe only time it developed fast was when its civilisation collapsed
20:07.35ImperiosSo it's a bad example
20:07.50OluapPlayerthey grow by dying            solid plan
20:08.07DrodoEmpireImperios: "Slow"?
20:08.11DrodoEmpireExplain.
20:08.12Tek0516China fluctuated a lot over history though.
20:08.13DrodoEmpireWhat way?
20:08.19DrodoEmpireYeah its not that easy Impy.
20:08.34ImperiosWell because China has never developed a solid scientific theory its technological development was a bit unsteady
20:08.52ImperiosOr rather, it did, but it got stifled during the Han Dynasty
20:08.57ImperiosFuck you Qin Shi Huang-di
20:09.03ImperiosWe could have ruled them fucking gweilos
20:09.05DrodoEmpireNor did Europe for the longest time. Scientific theory is, if I'm correct, a pretty new idea. :p
20:09.20GhelaeI don't think the development of Koldeweltian civilisations perfectly parallels those of Earth. We're really trying to understand how to distinguish between tiers, and particularly any transitional stage between "Late Iron Age" and "High Medieval"
20:09.32dromScience was pretty much rejceted in Europe as well
20:09.39DrodoEmpireOf course it wouldn't perfectly parallel
20:09.45dromWe can thank Catholicism for taht
20:10.07ImperiosYes but it was after that revolution that technology skyrocketed, and even before the Greek thought was more systematised, what with an organised form of logic and the like
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20:10.13Tek0516The Scientific Method didn't even exist until at 1500s.
20:10.20OluapPlayer~throw Cyrannian
20:10.24infobotACTION winds up and throws Cyrannian over the moon.
20:10.24ImperiosAgain, China developed that, but FUCK YOU QIN SHI HUANG DI
20:10.34GhelaeDrodoEmpire: So I mean, Imp calling a China "a bad example" doesn't hugely matter.
20:10.36Cyrannian~destroy OluapPlayer
20:10.36infobotno
20:10.43Ghelae~give Cyrannian a cookie
20:10.44infobotACTION gives Cyrannian a home-baked peanut butter cookie to cheer him up.
20:10.50Cyrannian~give Ghelae a pie
20:10.50infobotACTION gives Ghelae a home-baked pumpkin pie
20:10.53XhoHachiman: Why was Soul Calibur's greatest crime removing Zasalamel from SC V
20:11.09OluapPlayerHe's having dinner
20:11.16Xhohe gets da question
20:11.20Xhohe will answa da question
20:11.32ImperiosActually come to think about it China would be a good example of development maybe
20:11.37dromThis is IRC
20:11.42dromNot Direct Replay Chat
20:11.48Xhonao
20:12.09XhoSo I guess the main discussion in the IRC right now is Fantasyverse technology
20:12.10dromReply*
20:12.16ImperiosBut I am not very well versed in Chinese history unfortunately
20:12.25OluapPlayerMost specifically, a remade Fantasyverse tier list
20:12.27ImperiosUnlike Middle Eastern and European history
20:12.32dromKind of, but now we are talking about real-life technology
20:12.32OluapPlayerBecause the current one is lacking to say the least
20:12.45XhoI dunno if it's worth it really
20:12.46ImperiosI know most Persian dynasties but only a few of the Chinese ones
20:12.58ImperiosXia, Shang, Han, Qing, Tang, what else
20:13.03XhoMing
20:13.06ImperiosYes them
20:13.06Xhou idiot
20:13.15OluapPlayerIt is since that way we can call off people who go over the line
20:13.16OluapPlayerlike u for example
20:13.44ImperiosPersia had the Achaemenids, the Seleucids, the Parthians, the Sassanids, the Caliphate, the Samanids, the Safavids, the Afsharids, the Qajar, the Pahlavis
20:14.04XhoI use abyssal god magic
20:14.05Xhono tech 4 u
20:14.13OluapPlayerpoopy magic mor like
20:14.23Technobliteratorso, basically
20:14.29Xhour poppy
20:14.30ImperiosHell Persia can work as an example even better
20:14.32Xhopoopy
20:14.34XhoWhatever you're a p
20:14.36Technobliteratoranyone who develops tech higher than legal gets destroyed by demons?
20:14.37Xhoof something
20:14.37Imperios1 would be like ancient Aryan tribes
20:14.38HachimanXho: SCV in itself was kind of a sin
20:14.46XhoCharacter creation was the best part
20:14.48XhoThat was it
20:14.48Imperios2 would be the Achaemenids
20:14.52Imperios3 would be the Parthians
20:14.54HachimanAlso back
20:15.04Imperios4 would be the Sassanids
20:15.08OluapPlayerAnyone who develops tech higher than legal gets treated the same way we do when someone makes a new godrace in the fictionverse
20:15.10Imperios5 would be the Samanids
20:15.14OluapPlayerie we point, laugh and murder their page
20:15.15HachimanOh God why are we straying from the tropic so deeply
20:15.23Imperios6 would be... erm...
20:15.24Hachimantopic eben
20:15.26Hachimaneven even
20:15.28ImperiosThe Islamic Republic of Iran :P
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20:16.10OluapPlayerI read that as Islamic Republic of Islam
20:16.13OluapPlayerISLAM BY THE WAY
20:17.40OluapPlayerI remember the first revision of the Shiarchon had them using gunpowder rifles and tanks
20:17.43OluapPlayerBoy did it make me mad
20:17.54DrodoEmpireGunpowder rifles? :p
20:18.04DrodoEmpireThat's like everything from the baker rifle to the SMLE. XD
20:18.08GhelaeDrodo and I have just had a discussion, and I think Low Medieval does seem sensible as a transitional tier between Late Iron Age and High Medieval tech. Many new technologies are introduced, but greatly improved over time.
20:18.10OluapPlayerAs opposed to non-gunpowder rifles of coursew
20:18.19XhoNow they have void magic lances and eighteen armed abominations from an icy hell
20:18.29DrodoEmpireOluap: I think those existed actually
20:18.33OluapPlayerStill more manageable
20:18.34DrodoEmpireAnd they certainly do now
20:18.44OluapPlayerSo what do you do, hit people over the head with it
20:18.54DrodoEmpireNope
20:18.56DrodoEmpireIt was an air rifle
20:18.58DrodoEmpirehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
20:19.06DrodoEmpireAnd you can buy modern air rifles now here in Canada
20:19.11OluapPlayerI was gonna muse over armies beating each other with their guns, but then I remembered putting a knife in your gun for melee combat is a thing that happens
20:19.20XhoIt's called a bayonet hur
20:19.32DrodoEmpire^
20:19.33HachimanI would not say a bayonet is really for "melee combat" either hur
20:19.38XhoWhich always reminds me of mayonnaise
20:19.38DrodoEmpireWhy?
20:19.42OluapPlayerOkay then smartpants
20:19.47OluapPlayerWe shoot the knife at the enemy
20:19.51Wormy_DrodoEmpire, Ghelae:  When has the tier scale ever been rigorously quantitative?  It is a qaulative scale really.  I'll rephrase what I'm advocating:  basing the scale on openness to innovation, and ideas.  Jumps in "universality".  History before the big European Enlightenment had mini-Enlightenments for example.  A really early example is the Phonetician language
20:19.53DrodoEmpireA bayonet was actually quite effective too
20:19.58GhelaeTribal could be divided into pre-agricultural and agricultural societies. Then afterwards we keep Bronze Age(/Early Iron Age), (Late) Iron Age, Low Medieval and High Medieval. That should be a good start for tech tiers.
20:20.17dromDrodoEmpire: "While the detachable air reservoir was capable of around 30 shots it took nearly 1500 strokes of a hand pump to fill those reservoirs."
20:20.19dromOuch
20:20.37XhoThe Orichalcum Elves did have fully functioning automatons though
20:20.38HachimanWell, yes it is melee combat, but you cannot do the same maneuvers with a bayonet as you can a sword
20:20.43XhoMainly because it was magic powered
20:20.55DrodoEmpireAnd also essential in the era when firearms weren't accurate beyond fifty yards and took thirty seconds to load. :p
20:20.56GhelaeWormy_: Of course a tier scale is merely a way for us to impose order on a continuous process of growth and development. So which events do you think could divide it up?
20:21.02DrodoEmpireHachi: That's true
20:21.03Wormy_It would work for levels of organisation.  We have the Neolithic agricultural evolution, that gave rise to early art and trade, which of course sped up technology development
20:21.14DrodoEmpireProbably why some regiments actually carried shortswords on them
20:21.14OluapPlayerThey were not the only ones
20:21.18DrodoEmpireSabre Briquet
20:21.23DrodoEmpire*Sabre Briquets
20:21.26XhoWell that's good then
20:21.43OluapPlayerMachine Drakes u derp
20:21.48Xhoc
20:21.53HachimanSohet had them as evidenced by Monolith and the Machine Drakes
20:22.00DrodoEmpireWormy: That seems a little weird honestly... :p Not very descriptive of actual technology perhaps
20:22.00HachimanWell, Sohet helped designed Machine Drakes
20:22.13Wormy_Ghelae:  The ways these ideas effect organisation of society, in a way we did for the Sci-fi tier scale, and then up towards industrialisation where the Fantasy scasle ends
20:22.14OluapPlayerMachine Drakes were a Sohet-Ordnung-Ondarei project
20:22.15DrodoEmpireAnd as far as I know its been sorta quantitative.
20:22.21GhelaeAgriculture divides pre-agricultural and Neolithic, yes: that's actually what we have as the "Communal Revolution" on the larger tier scale.
20:22.21XhoMakes me wonder why the Shiarchon don't have automatons
20:22.23OluapPlayerThe Ordnung were the geeks of prehistory
20:22.24DrodoEmpireI dunno
20:22.31ImperiosGhelae: Does animal husbandry counts as agriculture?
20:22.31XhoI guess colossal frankensteins are better
20:22.38Wormy_Drodo:  I see what you mean, but we can speculate about what such societies could have made
20:22.40GhelaeImperios: I would say so, yes.
20:22.58DrodoEmpireRight,
20:23.06ImperiosSo Mongols would be a tier 2 or something
20:23.16ImperiosOr should we make pre-agriculture tier 0
20:23.20Wormy_Drodo:  It was within Victorian constraints to make electronic computers believe it or not, although they did not think openly enough about what they had
20:23.29ImperiosSo it'd be something liike
20:23.31DrodoEmpireI see...
20:23.35GhelaeThe next two steps have clear developments marking them: metallurgy gives us Bronze Age, ironwork gives us Iron Age.
20:24.22GhelaeThe completion of the Communal Revolution, and the establishment of city-states, could provide an alternative demarcation.
20:24.22OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/602/295/d78.png meanwhile at the Endless Host
20:24.56Wormy_I agree
20:24.59DrodoEmpireOluap: Oh also you usually didn't put the bayonet in the barrel. Early models did that but were soon replaced by a "ring bayonet", which was a ring that snapped onto the barrel with the blade off to the side. It allowed you to fire with a bayonet fixed
20:25.10GhelaeWhich would allow for advanced magical societies who don't care for bronze.
20:25.16OluapPlayerStill a knife in your gun
20:25.29DrodoEmpireAnd after them came sword bayonets, which were shortswords that had a ring to be attached to the barrel.
20:25.29Wormy_Ah that's something I completely forgot about
20:25.32Hachiman"On" your gun
20:25.33DrodoEmpireMore of an epee. :p
20:25.33Wormy_Magic
20:25.36Imperios"ME HIT ANIMAL WITH POINTY STICK" -> "ME RAISE ANIMAL AND THEN HIT IT WITH POINTY STICK" - > ME HIT YOU WITH BRONZE STICK -> I HIT YOU WITH IRON SWORD -> THOU SHALT BE HIT WITH MINE LANCE
20:26.05XhoAnd now we have railguns
20:26.09OluapPlayerPelagrios while drunk -> Pelagrios while sober
20:26.17Imperios-> THOU SHALT BE HIT WITH MY ADVANCED LANCE -> THOU SHALT BE HIT WITH SUPERADVANCED LANCE -> FUCK IT I'LL JUST SHOOT YOU
20:26.19Wormy_Koldenwelt Does Koldenwelt have both spiritual magic and alchemical magic?
20:26.21GhelaeIndustrial technology and similarly-functional magitech would give us the highest tier.
20:26.30OluapPlayerYes
20:26.34HachimanYes
20:26.46ImperiosActually considering that magic has its application in culture we could make magic account too
20:26.54OluapPlayerI assume alchemy falls under arcane magic
20:27.09HachimanI think magic would complicate a technology scale tier
20:27.14HachimanUnless magitech
20:27.24OluapPlayermagitech is a red flag sssss
20:27.38XhoLonginus - gold flag             fuk u mortals
20:27.45GhelaeI would think alchemy is simply magic applied by use of matter. So you could have e.g. fire alchemy, aka exploding stuff.
20:27.46HachimanKhaepsha-ultan - fuk OFF
20:27.53OluapPlayerits cheetin
20:27.55Wormy_Not necessarily, magitech is basically alchemypunk.  And European alchemy was treated more like a natural philosophy
20:28.00GhelaePoison alchemy, aka poison.
20:28.17XhoWell the idea of Orichalcum Elf magitech was powering automatons with souls
20:28.19GhelaeFlora alchemy, aka plant food.
20:28.21Ghelaeetc
20:28.34OluapPlayerWhen you put it that way, alchemy is just one of the many things you can do with the standard Source
20:28.36drom"A Wizard did it"
20:28.37XhoSo it was a soul inhibiting a giant golden humanoid husk
20:28.45dromAka the handwavium of Fantasyverse
20:29.03XhoThat happens to also have cogs and whatnot
20:29.10Hachiman"An owl killed over 70 lemmings and built a nest out of their corpses."
20:29.13OluapPlayerThat would count as a golem
20:29.25Xhostill technological though
20:29.35OluapPlayerHas magic in it
20:29.37OluapPlayerStill a golem
20:29.41Xhotechnogolem
20:29.42Xhodere
20:29.45dromGotta love how handwavium is pretty much the staple of every non-pausible science regardless fantasy or sci-fi
20:30.01XhoTechnogolem now just reminds me of Techno Viking
20:30.12OluapPlayerMachine golems are not uncommon in fantasy settings
20:30.33Wormy_Ghelae:  Perhaps the middle ages has two subcategories:  civilisations that progress from the level of classical Greece to Industrial Revolution without a dark age, and others which regress or remain fuedal
20:30.33OluapPlayerThat's exactly what the Machine Drakes are, for one
20:30.40Xhoc
20:30.42Xhoy u do dis
20:30.48Ghelaedrom: The difference between soft sci-fi and fantasy is only that soft sci-fi has a science theme. Is a portal to another place a magical doorway or a technological wormhole? Is teleporting done by magic spell or quantum technobabble?
20:30.52OluapPlayercus beep boop dragon
20:31.02XhoNdrhthryr is a machine golem of sorts
20:31.02XhoWell
20:31.09Wormy_Ghelae:  An for an industrial revolution, you need another aagricultural revolution to go from communal land to mass production
20:31.16Xhoas machine golem as you can get by having a corpse inhabit a machine body
20:31.18OluapPlayerI'd not call Nd a golem
20:31.25OluapPlayerMore like a man in a fancy armor
20:31.57Wormy_So you could build industrial towns...
20:32.01dromGhelae: "Handwavium" is a term for making up something that's no pausible. It is the biggest staple in fantasy
20:32.05XhoNdrhthryr - either way i get cog-ache
20:32.08DrodoEmpireWormy: Well China lacked a "dark age" and it did not become industrial
20:32.09GhelaeWormy_: Regression can be included in the same way as it is in the scifiverse tier scale. And yes, a second agricultural revolution would be included within the industrial one, unless you think it really needs to remain different (what would a second agricultural revolution without an industrial revolution look like?).
20:32.21DrodoEmpireHowever
20:32.33DrodoEmpireNow that I think of it its possible it *could have*, if not likely
20:32.34Ghelaedrom: Yes. And it works the same way in both genres.
20:32.46Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  But China also did not have anything equivalent to a European Enlightenment.
20:33.01DrodoEmpireI suppose
20:33.03Wormy_They nearly did, but it failed to keep alive
20:33.04XhoWell at least we know the Néva are still tribal
20:33.42Wormy_I recall that Chinese Emperor who wanted to explore the seas and expand across the globe, was was convinced (or was he?) not to
20:33.48DrodoEmpireNo they did
20:34.06DrodoEmpireThe Ming Dynasty sent out Zheng He who went on an expedition in the early 1400's
20:34.16DrodoEmpireSupposedly he sailed as far as the Americas
20:34.26DrodoEmpire(Though this is dubious at best)
20:34.27TekDroidThat's questionable though
20:34.39Wormy_I think I have heard that theory
20:34.47XhoI dunno whether the Néva know of metallurgy though
20:34.49DrodoEmpireAt the end of his journey however China completely closed shop
20:34.53XhoMost of their armament and tools are made from bone
20:35.15XhoOr obsidian in some cases
20:35.31DrodoEmpireI believe this was because of a series of natural disasters, and they felt that they were disrupting the natural order of things by trading so freely with "barbarians"
20:35.39HachimanFANTASY TIER SCALE PLEASE
20:35.42DrodoEmpireSo they completely closed off
20:35.44DrodoEmpire:
20:35.45DrodoEmpire*:p
20:35.48DrodoEmpireGetting there
20:35.49Wormy_Interestingly, I read in one book, one thing that stopped explorers from Europe and China from meeting were the Arabs, who convinced both there was only danger beyond their lands.  They also benefitted by trading goods between Europe and the Far East
20:35.57GhelaeXho: They could do as some Inuit did and, if they have any metal items, make them out of meteoric iron.
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20:36.01DrodoEmpireWormy: Smart. XD
20:36.04XhoPossibly
20:36.15XhoMeteoric metal craft has been mentioned in fiction before
20:36.22Xhoi.e. Mhor's armour is made of meteoric metal
20:36.31OluapPlayermoo
20:36.37XhoMhor - bear       not cao
20:36.50HachimanSaranhreia - moo
20:36.57XhoVultusk - moo
20:37.02OluapPlayerFantasyverse, where camels go moo
20:37.29XhoThat makes me wonder what the hell the Orayu craft their armour and weapons out of
20:37.41OluapPlayerVery carefully
20:37.46OluapPlayerXho: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/624/867/b03.jpg
20:37.54Xhohoh
20:38.13GhelaeBesides magitech at the upper end, does magic affect the tier scale in other ways?
20:38.21XhoNot really
20:38.27OluapPlayerCan't think of anything
20:38.32XhoMagic's an older form of science than science in Koldenwelt
20:38.36Wormy_Ghelae:  I didn't mean the agricultural revolution need to be separate in category to the industrial one, just that it needs to be a part of it.
20:39.22GhelaeOkay then. So there we go: pre-agricultural, Neolithic, Bronze Age, Iron Age, Low Medieval, High Medieval, Industrial/Magitech.
20:39.27Ghelae7 tiers.
20:39.41Wormy_Perhaps magic stops the construction of electronic computers?
20:39.45DrodoEmpireSounds good.
20:39.45Ghelae(and remember industrial needs new agricultural methods)
20:40.10OluapPlayerThat is one theory to explain who no one has got advanced enough to make spaceships yet
20:40.14OluapPlayerThe Source does not permit it
20:40.32GhelaeWormy_: I had an idea that quantum mechanics is simply never discovered on Koldenwelt. Everyone assumes the Source is responsible for holding atoms together, stopping technology at the late 19th century.
20:40.36XhoMakes Oblivion Engines even more of a hilariously evil idea
20:40.49OluapPlayerno one but u cares for dose
20:40.58TekDroidPerhaps the fantasyverse just lacks/has some fancy quantum effects that don't allow electricity
20:41.07XhoSource does not permite space travel -> Caligaduro crafts city-sized hovering death engines
20:41.16OluapPlayerWe have electric magic though
20:41.16GhelaeTekDroid: Yes, perhaps the Source actually *does* hold atoms together.
20:41.20XhoWell they're all destroyed so no one has to care
20:41.27GhelaeIt's electronics rather than electricity in general, though.
20:41.41GhelaeAs Oluap says, electric magic still exists, as does lightning.
20:41.49OluapPlayerThey're one of the same
20:41.57OluapPlayerbzz magic
20:42.02XhoBEEEEEEEES
20:42.03OluapPlayerNot to be confused with bees
20:42.04OluapPlayerc
20:42.16Ghelaenew school of magic: bee magic
20:42.24XhoSantorakh - fucking great
20:42.31OluapPlayerBEE COLOSSUS
20:42.37OluapPlayer>it's just a wasp
20:42.43XhoI misread that as 'Nope Colossus'
20:42.45dromgod bees
20:43.17OluapPlayerI can actually see summoning bees as a floramancy power
20:43.18XhoSantorakh just throws Avaritia into Koldenwelt                     Santorakh - be godly and shit
20:43.29Wormy_The Victorians had everything available for them to build computers and even an internet:  electric relays, the means to build AnalyticalEngines with punch cards, binary numbers and telegraphy
20:43.31OluapPlayerAvaritia - GOTTA MAKE HOARDS
20:44.56TekDroidIf necessary just say quantum mechanics makes electricity work differently and/or source messes with electricity, preventing the existence of electronics. Thus using the magic and quantum mechanics lampshading at the same time. :P
20:45.09HachimanFloramancer - THE PAIN, THE PAIN           THE PAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNN
20:45.19Wormy_Maybe we just have Source-powered relays computing binary logic gates
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20:45.56XhoThe Orichalcum Elves had some form of computation but it was literally only things like switch activation
20:46.04XhoComplex mechanisms and such but not much past that
20:46.17XhoAnd when I say complex, not vey complex
20:46.20Xhovery
20:46.36GhelaePerhaps Void magic is exceptionally good at running computers and so everyone is irrationally scared of them.
20:46.59Wormy_Scratch that, the Victorians did have an internet after all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victorian_Internet
20:47.02XhoThere's one instance where it just deactivated a magical barrier and stuff like operating large orreries
20:47.22Tek0516Wormy: http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3837
20:47.26ImperiosOluapPlayer Xho: The Klaxxa invent a rocket to throw Caligaduro into space
20:47.31ImperiosThen the Xhodocto find him
20:47.48XhoAngazhar - WELCOME HOME SON
20:48.15XhoVoid magic technically runs on some kind of computation
20:48.16OluapPlayerhur
20:48.23OluapPlayerdunt make shit up
20:48.25XhoVoid matrices power entire city-sized fortresses to intricate levels
20:48.30Wormy_Tek:  Brilliant
20:48.43XhoThough they're more like power sources to those who don't know how to use them
20:48.49Wormy_I believe I read emoticons were first used in the 19th century
20:49.03XhoComputers and weapons of mass destruction to more powerful entities
20:49.03DrodoEmpireYeah.
20:49.16OluapPlayerhttps://41.media.tumblr.com/a021f2c07182a8b16d3c397456c27d05/tumblr_nohw6abPNh1qjp94eo1_540.jpg
20:49.21XhoBut Void computation is basically using magic to make things works
20:49.23Xhowork
20:49.36Xhohuman shrek
20:50.35Wormy_I believe we once discussed the sci-fiverse being a simulation on Koldenwelt
20:50.48XhoThe [Void] Matrix
20:50.51Tek0516O.o
20:51.08OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/isw7wFi.jpg female lizardfolk
20:51.41dromImperios: RoRövovarorsospoproråkok arorror!
20:52.18HachimanKalcedia - hey boys
20:52.32Wormy_Caligduro - *turns off Xhodocto like they are just simple graphics*
20:52.34dromOluapPlayer: This pleases Cyrannain
20:52.37dromCyrannian even
20:52.44XhoSantorakh - not cool
20:53.27Wormy_Caligduro - *gives Hachiman a loving wife with a long lasting relationship*
20:53.32Wormy_Universe fixed.exe
20:53.36dromCoCanon anonybobodody unondoderorsostotanondod mome? Yeahoh?
20:54.31XhoSantorakh - logic.exe has stopped working
20:55.05dromThe absendence of kernel unhandled exceptions disappoint me
20:55.16DrodoEmpiretest
20:55.18XhoSantorakh - ur disappointin
20:55.44dromso was your mom
20:56.08Wormy_Seriously though, are the Xhodocto still more powerful than Caligaduro?
20:56.17XhoWell Caligaduro got trapped under a planet
20:56.29HachimanXhodocto also got trapped on a planet
20:56.37XhoNot in the updated canon they didn't hur
20:56.43GhelaeBack when he was canon Kamik'Shi got trapped in a sword.
20:56.54OluapPlayerThat's why he was fired
20:56.56Wormy_Fair enough, he's a small time demon in the sci-fiverse where demons eat planets
20:57.12XhoDoesn't make much sense for the Xhodocto to be trapped on a planet
20:57.21OluapPlayerIt's not fair to compare the sci-fi and fantasyverses
20:57.32OluapPlayerThe latter is many times smaller in scale
20:57.40Wormy_Except for the arcane beings
20:57.49XhoSo instead the idea of the Monolith was in fact a Zhulultu beacon that awakened Zhuleshxi upon physical contact with it
20:58.10XhoAnd in turn the Xhodocto were like "oh the universe got interesting again"
20:58.11Wormy_Is The Eye on Earth still canon?
20:58.18XhoShould be
20:58.22XhoEkhtrikos is still a character
20:58.28XhoEkthrikos even
20:58.35Wormy_I wonder if it caused the mass evacuation of Sol
20:58.45TechnobliteratorWelp
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20:58.49TechnobliteratorI actually made edits today
20:58.57OluapPlayerEkhtrikos - this is the part where you run awat
20:58.59OluapPlayeraway*
20:59.02XhoI doubt anyone on Earth was even aware that an apocalyptic sentinel was awakened
20:59.18OluapPlayerEarth - oh           okay then
20:59.24Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:First_Ottzello_Galactic_War
20:59.28XhoI'd imagine at least 90% of the Gigaquadrant is unaware of Ekthrikos' existence
20:59.33TechnobliteratorThis is still probably going to take ages to complete
20:59.40DrodoEmpireSo two games coming out seem like really cool candidates for a Fictionverse mod. :p
20:59.47DrodoEmpireStellaris and Total War Warhammer
20:59.56TechnobliteratorI have played Total War Warhammer :o
21:00.04DrodoEmpirePlayed it?
21:00.09TechnobliteratorYup
21:00.22XhoIn fact I don't even know where Ekthrikos is in fiction right now
21:00.45XhoIf he appeared in Tantum he's probably in Inferno
21:00.47DrodoEmpireIts only set to be released in 2016. How did you get to play it? Through a closed beta/alpha?
21:00.54OluapPlayerRanting under Angazhar's foot
21:01.22TechnobliteratorI was one of the people at EGX Prime last month who got to try out games before they came out
21:01.27OluapPlayerhe was part of the prologue but didn't appear in the team story
21:01.30DrodoEmpireOh nice!
21:01.35DrodoEmpireHow was it?
21:01.38XhoEkthrikos - I RUN THIS SHIT
21:01.39TechnobliteratorI got to try that one, Valve's Steam VR, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Star Wars Battlefront...
21:01.43DrodoEmpireI'm a *huge* Total War fan. >.<
21:01.50Technobliteratorand Deus Ex
21:01.51OluapPlayerHez - shup u spastic git
21:01.51XhoI would like to do a fiction where Terastia is active but it would be difficult to pull off
21:01.51TechnobliteratorIt was good
21:01.55DrodoEmpireCool.
21:02.09TechnobliteratorI quite liked it, even though I've never played Total War before
21:02.12XhoTerastia is almost Chaos Monster-grade material
21:02.16DrodoEmpireIts a great series. XD
21:02.17TechnobliteratorIf the game releases on Linux, I'll get it on release
21:02.23OluapPlayerDiafthora - im better and less annoyin
21:02.25Tek0516I'm especially excited for Stellaris. One of my favourite developers doing one of my favourite genres and settings.
21:02.27DrodoEmpireThis is the first fantasy one actually, which'll be really interesting to see.
21:02.40TechnobliteratorJust needs Total War Warhammer 40,000 next
21:02.42Technobliterator:o
21:02.45DrodoEmpirehur
21:02.47DrodoEmpirePossibly yeah
21:02.50TechnobliteratorI did ask them one thing
21:02.57TechnobliteratorWhy did they miss out on the perfect opportunity
21:03.01Technobliteratorto just call it Total Warhammer
21:03.05DrodoEmpireolol
21:03.06XhoI don't know where Terastia is exactly
21:03.20XhoIt's likely sitting on a podium in Hez' quarters
21:03.25OluapPlayerLast time it was seen, it was given to Draguros
21:03.27Technobliteratorthey just laughed and said it was because of branding or something
21:03.40XhoDraguros - u lil shits messin with wepun of mass destruction
21:03.58OluapPlayerAngazhar - LITERALLY OUR JOB
21:03.58DrodoEmpireBut yeah depending on how Total War turns out (and if we miraculous get an entire staff of dedicated modders by 2016. <.<) it could be a cool total conversion
21:04.02TechnobliteratorI was more impressed by Steam VR than anything
21:04.10DrodoEmpire*miraculously
21:04.23DrodoEmpireYeah that's another thing I've been interested in.
21:04.41XhoI imagine that originally the eyes were all in separate universes
21:05.10XhoAnd the Zhulultu probably traversed different universes to collect them altogether to become invincibru
21:05.17Technobliteratorah, fuck it
21:05.17Wormy_Gonna work on DCP page
21:05.22OluapPlayerDiafthora - solid job u twits
21:05.25DrodoEmpireTech: Hm?
21:05.29TechnobliteratorI'm gonna see if I can make another First Ottzello War section
21:05.32XhoEvidently did so but then the Eyes were like "lol fuck you" and then buggered off somewhere
21:05.32DrodoEmpireAhh
21:05.37Technobliteratoror maybe two more while listening to Snoop Dogg
21:05.41Technobliteratorbecause I know I'll forget next time
21:05.57XhoOne of them is destroyed
21:06.12OluapPlayerYwo
21:06.15OluapPlayerTwo even
21:06.20drominb4 technobliterator never finishes it because being distracted by dank weedie music
21:06.27Technobliteratorhah
21:06.46OluapPlayerKan'Kun destroyed one and another got ded'd during Tantum
21:06.52Tek0516DrodoEmpire: They've already done two dev diaries for Stellaris now
21:06.53XhoOh yeah
21:07.03XhoSo theres...
21:07.03DrodoEmpireTek: Yeah I've seen.
21:07.07XhoFive left
21:07.08DrodoEmpireReally, *really* excited
21:07.13Tek0516Definitely
21:07.24OluapPlayerKan'Kun - still disappeared            im relevant guys
21:07.32DrodoEmpireAnd considering that there'll be disasters like creatures from the warp, we could probably include a Xhodocto invasion in the mod... <.<
21:07.34DrodoEmpireI dunno.
21:07.43Tek0516<PROTECTED>
21:07.49XhoXhodocto - LOL HI
21:07.57DrodoEmpirehur
21:08.06DrodoEmpireDrodo - D:>
21:08.26XhoFictionally speaking the Xhodocto themselves have little business left in the Gigaquadrant
21:08.27Wormy_pagesImpyDroid, Xho:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXw_FAQDvMc
21:08.49Tek0516The depth of a Paradox GSG in a scifi setting should be great
21:11.02XhoThe Dominion however still think the Gigaquadrant should be steamrolled
21:11.09Wormy_pagesHachiman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jfRzsg_-2k
21:11.19TechnobliteratorZargoth thinks it should because he wants revenge on it
21:11.22TechnobliteratorOf course, he won't admit that
21:16.17*** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@lx02.housing.carleton.ca)
21:30.43Wormy_pagestee hee http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction%3ADelpha_Coalition_of_Planets&diff=77087&oldid=77074
21:32.19Wormy_pagesalso http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction%3ADelpha_Coalition_of_Planets&diff=90241&oldid=89943
21:32.27Technobliterator._.
21:32.45XhoShit's old
21:32.50Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:First_Ottzello_Galactic_War ok, I'm done for today
21:33.13OluapPlayerGood lord
21:33.19OluapPlayerI guess we all had our humble beginnings
21:33.23Technobliteratoroh wow
21:33.32Technobliteratorthat was when there was still a Content namespace
21:33.34Technobliterator0.0
21:33.55OluapPlayerThe first edits of the Dracogonarious were also in the Content namespace
21:34.12Wormy_pagesI think my writing has improved a bit (intro updated) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets
21:34.20Technobliteratormust've been a godsend when they split the namespaces
21:34.52XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12049196_10207576186100390_2293302110645501021_n.jpg?oh=9fc1fc38a74faa4e036fb68bc2f36d53&oe=56A4F3D4 You've more than likely seen this but still
21:35.14TechnobliteratorI personally would bold the first mention of "Delpha Coalition of Planets"
21:35.24OluapPlayerI have
21:35.25XhoYou know you're old on the wiki when you remember the Content namespace
21:35.26OluapPlayerStill gold
21:35.34Wormy_pagesAh yes
21:36.07CyrannianNoice work Wormy
21:36.08TechnobliteratorI remember the content namespace! :v
21:36.20OluapPlayerno one cares for u
21:36.38Technobliteratorya moms dum
21:37.07Wormy_pagesI remember the concept namespace
21:37.27XhoOh and concept
21:37.33XhoI think the Xhodocto were a concept page originally
21:37.49OluapPlayerOh, the concept namespace
21:37.54TechnobliteratorConcept namespace was deleted along with all its content aside from the Naucean
21:37.55OluapPlayerIts creation led the wiki to be raided
21:37.56XhoOr something exceptionally archaic
21:38.06TechnobliteratorWhich Ose had to move to userspace later
21:38.07XhoWell Naucean archaic
21:38.10OluapPlayerOr rather, its removal
21:38.36OluapPlayerNaucean is like, Big Bang-tier archaic
21:38.52Wormy_pagesA few more concepts did get saved
21:38.59Wormy_pagesLike the Wexx
21:39.03TechnobliteratorNaucean was supposed to be incredible at the time. I read it and don't recall being as impressed.
21:39.10Wormy_pagesOr whatever they were called
21:39.16OluapPlayerI never found them special
21:39.19Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AIntroi_Leader You want old, here we go
21:39.23TechnobliteratorThere was a massive amount of content, but
21:39.24OluapPlayerOh god, that
21:39.29OluapPlayerTHAT is old
21:39.33Technobliteratorit wasn't too well written
21:39.35Technobliteratorhoooh boy
21:39.47Wormy_pagesburns my eyes
21:40.02CyrannianI remember that guy, the early CSA joined his alliance
21:40.09Xhotop kek
21:40.20OluapPlayerIntroi stuff was like, the concept art of the Fictionverse
21:40.32Wormy_pagesI miss these people http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AZagorian http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3APoeringu
21:40.43OluapPlayerPoeringu used to be my BFF
21:40.53OluapPlayerI wonder what happened to him
21:41.03XhoTurned into me and I ruined your life, that's what
21:41.53OluapPlayerall u do is make me angry so yeh
21:42.22XhoCaptainZaco as well
21:42.55Wormy_pages<PROTECTED>
21:43.00OluapPlayerCaptian, excuse you
21:43.30drom"that I bought a 512 MB stick of RAM,"
21:43.35TechnobliteratorTimeMaster, eh?
21:43.36XhoThought there was a typo somewhere in that name
21:43.36dromThat's enough
21:43.40TechnobliteratorI don't recall any problems with TimeMaster
21:44.06Wormy_pagesJo:  Last time he came on, he tried to change galaxy names to real life ones and caused an edit war.
21:44.18OluapPlayerI vaguely recall that
21:44.23Technobliteratoruh
21:44.26CyrannianOh yes
21:44.30TechnobliteratorThat sounds...really not that bad?
21:44.43OluapPlayer>edit war        >not that bad
21:44.46OluapPlayeru call urself an admin
21:44.46Wormy_pagesAnd he had it in for me, reporting me as a vandal and arguing with every edit I made
21:45.00Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/TimeMaster
21:45.06Technobliteratoronly twice? really?
21:45.12Technobliteratorc'mon, guys, this is hardly an edit war
21:45.19Technobliterator._.
21:45.26CyrannianHe did something to annoy me once, but I don't remember what it was hur
21:45.34Wormy_pagesThis was after we told him to stop, I think
21:45.44OluapPlayerChanging pages without the community's approval is not something "not that bad"
21:45.53TechnobliteratorIt was only twice, though
21:45.57TechnobliteratorI wouldn't even call this an edit war
21:46.06OluapPlayerStill unacceptable
21:46.07XhoJo
21:46.08Xhoshup
21:46.08TechnobliteratorI don't consider it an edit war unless they do it three times +
21:46.11Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/An_Unexpected_Adventure - errrbody, Oluap, Gorf and I did a thing
21:46.21OluapPlayerMostly Gorf
21:46.28TechnobliteratorSilly, but I wouldn't say it's the end of the world
21:46.40OluapPlayerBut yeah, check that page
21:46.44OluapPlayerIt has Gorf doing Gorf things
21:47.00Technobliteratoroh
21:47.05Technobliteratorhis summaries are kind of...stupid
21:47.27Technobliteratoryeah these summaries are bad
21:47.38Technobliteratorhe was being a dick
21:48.13GhelaeActing against community consensus? Meh. Poor edit summaries? Now you're on Jo's bad side.
21:48.14XhoZillum - cat            raptor                 KILL
21:48.24Wormy_pagesHe didn't seem to like me Jo
21:48.58TechnobliteratorI don't recall him disliking you
21:49.01Wormy_pagesThen again, he doesn't have to but still
21:49.11ImpyDroidI remember Zagorian but I never actually got to meet him
21:49.16Wormy_pagesYeah but this was before you edited the wiki :P
21:50.16OluapPlayerThat page is full of references to the Great Cyrannus War
21:50.26OluapPlayerFits the current nostalgia aura of the IRC
21:51.11CyrannianAnd budding reptile romance, because the wiki is seriously lacking in that department
21:51.27Xhogud
21:51.30OluapPlayerThat come second
21:51.36XhoI mean good that it's lacking
21:51.41OluapPlayerFirst comes Gorf bringing Apollo to near-death situations
21:51.44XhoLove kills the Xho
21:51.55dromWhat's love?
21:52.01TechnobliteratorI recall FalcoPunch
21:52.02Technobliteratorhe was great
21:52.07OluapPlayer~love Xho
21:52.07infobotIf you love Xho so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
21:52.11OluapPlayerfok
21:52.16XhoTOP KEK AND GAG
21:52.22Technobliteratorpoor guy had to go get a real life and leave the wiki
21:52.24OluapPlayerur an it tho
21:52.54Xhomeh
21:52.56XhoBeen called worse
21:53.42dromXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tojicre_Qe8
21:53.56CyrannianI miss Maxi, Jovar, Falco and Exclamation-Mark-Xho the most
21:54.14Wormy_pagesTigress Dragonblade was cool
21:54.18XhoDrom: I was thinking about that
21:54.30OluapPlayerDino already gives us enough exclamation marks
21:54.33Wormy_pagesI miss Sporesauce
21:55.00TechnobliteratorI've seen Maxi return
21:55.01Xho!Xho
21:55.06TechnobliteratorI don't know what happened to Jovar
21:55.07Xhodunt get dis
21:55.15Wormy_pagesWhat was it about TyrannoFan that people didn't like?
21:55.20OluapPlayerYou spoke "like this!"
21:55.22TechnobliteratorHis temper
21:55.23Wormy_pagesI think I missed that drama
21:55.28CyrannianHe was one of those argumentative types
21:55.37XhoI do not remember using exclamation marks
21:55.41TechnobliteratorHim and Hachi used to be at each other's throats often
21:55.44CyrannianBut he was alright apart from that
21:55.48OluapPlayerYou did back before I was active
21:55.50TechnobliteratorThen again, back in those days, so did me and Hachi
21:55.52XhoOh
21:56.01XhoYou must have sucked the joy out of my living then
21:56.01GhelaeXho: You should use exclamation marks more often! It makes life so much more interesting!
21:56.02Xho<3
21:56.05OluapPlayerkek
21:56.24OluapPlayerFunny because I was really scared of you when I joined
21:56.34TechnobliteratorReally?
21:56.36Cyrannianstahp Ghel, it's not natural
21:56.40TechnobliteratorBack when you joined, everyone was all "wooooah"
21:56.54TechnobliteratorOr, rather, re-joined
21:56.58OluapPlayerYeah, Xho used to intimidate me a lot
21:57.00Technobliteratorit was like some surprise event
21:57.03OluapPlayerThen I realized he was not that bad
21:57.14TechnobliteratorHonsetly, I didn't expect you to stay very long
21:57.18Xhodis is not gud
21:57.19OluapPlayerAnd now we're a slapstick duo
21:57.21Xhoneed to up the nazi
21:57.27TechnobliteratorI thought you'd be back for a bit then have another editing problem
21:57.31Technobliteratorand then leave us again
21:57.31Xhoscare everyone again
21:57.34OluapPlayerwow rude
21:57.42Technobliteratorbut I was wrong!
21:57.44CyrannianI was an Oluap fanboy, but turns out he was a dik
21:57.44XhoRULE THROUGH FEAR
21:57.45dromI think we need to make Xho more kawaii.
21:57.46Technobliteratorwhich is good
21:57.48XhoFEAR MAKES YOU FREE
21:57.49XhoOR NOT
21:57.50OluapPlayerwow rude?
21:57.51XhoI DUNNO
21:57.55OluapPlayerwow rude²*
21:58.07OluapPlayerAll of my friends are still here so I don't really have to miss anyone
21:58.09TechnobliteratorI think no one liked me when I joined
21:58.10OluapPlayerur all here <3
21:58.38Xhofuk off
21:58.46Xhoeet ur on faic and den dai
21:58.48Xhopls
21:58.51OluapPlayer~eat Xho ]
21:58.52infobotThat's too disgusting.
21:58.59XhoI am now sad
21:58.59dromdawh, you are so cute, Xho
21:58.59CyrannianOluapPlayer: hit me in the feels
21:59.04dromCan I may pet you?
21:59.14TechnobliteratorThe guy who I miss most is Valader, though
21:59.24OluapPlayervalader is dum hurhurhur
21:59.28Technobliteratorya moms dum
21:59.32XhoI dunno about Val
21:59.53OluapPlayerI don't think he appreciated me on his brief visits
21:59.57XhoIt was mostly a dickwaving contest between me and him which eventually turned the Xhodocto into a mind-boggingly complicted fiction
22:00.00XhoSo I won
22:00.05Xhocomplicated
22:00.08TechnobliteratorHe was another one who just had to get a real life then leave
22:00.18TechnobliteratorAlso, he definitely did, Oluap
22:00.22CyrannianVal is a really nice guy doe, I picture him as a Mexican Dino
22:00.31XhoMexican Dino
22:00.33XhoNow I laugh
22:00.38dromSpeaking of Mexicans, Mush?
22:00.42OluapPlayerhola!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:00.42XhoBut yeah pretty much
22:00.46Wormy_pagesWhat kind of dino do you picture me as?
22:00.48XhoMush I do not miss very much
22:00.50CyrannianMush was English
22:00.54TechnobliteratorMush is the opposite of Valader
22:01.08OluapPlayerMush was a cock, thank god he's gone
22:01.08TechnobliteratorHe had a dickwaving contest with Xho but was not liked at the end of it
22:01.14XhoI won that as well
22:01.20GhelaeLike Val, Mush also returns rarely from time to time to make a few edits. Unlike Val, he never seems to log in or come on IRC.
22:01.20XhoBasically I have a massive dick
22:01.22Wormy_pagesMush was English but moved to Mexico, if that was actually true
22:01.25XhoThis is established now
22:01.26TechnobliteratorMhm
22:01.38TechnobliteratorMush was liked at the beginning, though
22:01.43OluapPlayerI have the current top active demon horde in the fictionverse so I won in the end
22:01.46dromXho: I think we need a dickwaving contest between you, Hachiman and OluapPlayer
22:02.00TechnobliteratorHe made an instantly omnipotent empire and got away with it
22:02.02CyrannianI never liked Mush
22:02.03TechnobliteratorThis is a first
22:02.04XhoIf my dick gets any bigger the bloodrush would kill me
22:02.14Wormy_pagesHe was liked because his creations, especially buildings, are undoubtadly top notch
22:02.16TechnobliteratorWell, if he wasn't liked at the beginning, he was...tolerated?
22:02.35TechnobliteratorI'm pretty sure he was more well liked than I was, actually :   |
22:02.44CyrannianHe was definitely popular in the beginning, I just didn't like him hur
22:02.50OluapPlayerno one likes u hurhur
22:02.56Technobliteratorno one likes ya mom eitha
22:03.02dromno ones likes OluapPlayer anyway
22:03.09OluapPlayerThat's a fact
22:03.14Xhoyeh fuk off u
22:03.27OluapPlayerI get reminded of back when we roleplayed as Loron in the main channel
22:03.32Technobliterator:D
22:03.36OluapPlayerIt got to the point everyone got mad at us
22:03.39TechnobliteratorMhm
22:03.48Xhodum
22:04.04CyrannianOluapPlayer: I remember thinking that you didn't like me when you first returned to the wiki
22:04.06Wormy_pagesOh look, an unofficial Sporepedia http://www.sporepedia2.com/f14-mods
22:04.16dromI though admire Mush's creations and art
22:04.20XhoBut that's Spanish
22:04.29dromajajajajajajajajaja
22:04.32OluapPlayerTo be completely honest, I don't recall noticing you back then at all
22:04.42Cyrannian*foreveralone*
22:04.51OluapPlayerI only started noticing your fiction during the GCW
22:04.54TechnobliteratorI think Oluap joined around the time I left for a short while
22:05.01OluapPlayerCorrect
22:05.04TechnobliteratorMy defense was that my real life back then was a lot worse than it is now
22:05.08OluapPlayerThen I revived the Loron and you came back
22:05.11Technobliteratoryeah
22:05.11Ghelaedrom: I don't think anyone ever complained about his creations. But the appreciation of Mush's fiction is so low they were retconned away and then de-retconned just to be destroyed.
22:05.30GhelaeRecently we even discussed giving Celestial Energy to Liquid Ink so he could do something worthwhile with it.
22:05.35Wormy_pagesThe funny thing is, I don't remember Xho, Valader, Cyrannian or dino before the Tigris War
22:05.51XhoI wasn't really active before the Tigris War
22:05.58dromSpeaking of. I remember Sporeraptor and Zmr
22:06.06XhoSporesauce as well
22:06.07XhoOddball
22:06.09TechnobliteratorI remember how the Loron intropduced themselves to the Xhodocto
22:06.11XhoReal oddball
22:06.17TechnobliteratorThere was a Xho AMA or something blog
22:06.25XhoAMA blog
22:06.25DrodoEmpiredrom: Zmr was really nice. XD I wonder why he left
22:06.25Technobliteratorand then I asked a question roleplaying as the Loron
22:06.26OluapPlayerI believe the Reclaiming was going on when I re-joined
22:06.29XhoOh my I have no idea what that is
22:06.32OluapPlayerThe current canon probably means that plot makes no sense anymore
22:06.35Technobliteratorsomething like "WHAI IS DA XHODOCTO SO DUM"
22:06.39Wormy_pagesSporesauce was alright and then he discovered the dark recesses of 4chann
22:06.41Technobliteratoror something
22:06.57dromDrodoEmpire: I'm still in touch with him on Steam, he told me that he grew tired of Sporewiki because it was more like a chore to him
22:06.58XhoThe Cult of the Deathmarch isn't canon any more so no
22:06.59CyrannianOluap rejoined in late 2010 I remember
22:07.06DrodoEmpiredrom: Ahh, I see.
22:07.15XhoIt's more like the Congregation remnants
22:07.33OluapPlayerIt involved Hez retrieving the Xhodocto Bane to free Kamik'Shi from it
22:07.36OluapPlayerAt least 2/3 of that sentence are not canon anymore
22:07.43TechnobliteratorI don't recall what Hachi did back in the day...
22:07.49Xho"Hez" that's about right
22:07.51TechnobliteratorI don't think he did much that stuck for a while
22:07.57dromIdk about Sporeraptor though, he just disappeared after struggling to write on of our collabs, which now forever stands unfinished and forgotten
22:08.04OluapPlayerHe did the Zazane and the Holy Shadow War
22:08.06Wormy_pagesAll I remember back in the early days was Jo and Hachi arguing
22:08.12Technobliteratorugh
22:08.12XhoOh that was fun
22:08.13XhoNot
22:08.14Wormy_pagesAnd having rap battles
22:08.18TechnobliteratorI do not like to think back to those days
22:08.21CyrannianI remember the Zazane being the DCP Civil War
22:08.34dromWe can agree that 2014 was the worst year?
22:08.39OluapPlayerFrom what I know, you argued, then you became almost a couple, then I joined
22:08.39TechnobliteratorNo, we cannot
22:08.44Xho2010 was worse
22:08.47Technobliterator2011 was the worst
22:08.48Wormy_pages2010 and 11 were far worse
22:08.50TechnobliteratorCleanslate...
22:08.51Technobliteratoruggggggggggggh
22:08.54dromAh yes
22:08.58Technobliteratorugh those days were bad
22:09.00Technobliteratorbaaaaaaaaaad
22:09.02XhoCleanslate was still a good idea in my books
22:09.06dromPardon me, but that's my experience.
22:09.09XhoEverything's much cleaner now
22:09.14TechnobliteratorGood idea? Maybe. Executed well? hahahahahahahahahahaha no
22:09.15Cyrannian2011 was my favourite year actually
22:09.25Xho2013 is my favourite year
22:09.29Technobliteratoroh, was that when you got the banhammer?
22:09.30Technobliterator8D
22:09.33XhoOr perhaps 2009
22:09.35Wormy_pagesI remember winning a rap battle with Hachiman.  It was a big overhyped event on the wiki.  Hachiman made a proper rap song and I bashed together some DCP-themed rhymes, and won because of popularity
22:09.49OluapPlayerI never had a strong opinion on the cleanstate
22:10.05TechnobliteratorYour strong opinion was wanting nothing to do with it, if I recall
22:10.10CyrannianOh it was come to think of it hur   But mostly because of the GCW and because there were less arguments then in 2010
22:10.11OluapPlayerI do think the setting is cleaner now, but the cleanslate almost stopped Borealis from happening
22:10.11dromI never know about the cleanstate, but I guess you all hated it
22:10.29CyrannianPlus it was when IRC took off
22:10.30TechnobliteratorIf Borealis had stopped happening, UNO would be homeless
22:10.31Technobliteratorfact
22:10.41TechnobliteratorIRC took off because I advertised it
22:10.42OluapPlayerI don't think I have any favorite years
22:10.51Technobliteratorand only advertised it because I wanted people to be redirected to MSN or something
22:10.55Technobliteratorwhich completely failed
22:10.57OluapPlayerMainly because my memory is not good enough to record which year had the most good parts
22:11.02dromOluapPlayer: Well. Least disliked year
22:11.14Xho2014 was alright for me
22:11.15Wormy_pagesBefore IRC we used that widget.  And Ose kept telling us to stop using it
22:11.22TechnobliteratorOh, right
22:11.24XhoI didn't get caught up in the GigaConflicts fiasco
22:11.25dromWhy?
22:11.25Technobliteratorit was Ose who did that, yeah
22:11.32Technobliteratorbecause it was garbage
22:11.33OluapPlayerI don't dislike any years
22:11.33Technobliteratorseriously
22:11.34OluapPlayerExcept that part
22:11.35Technobliteratorit was awful
22:11.36CyrannianThe shoutbox
22:11.37dromOh yeah
22:11.40Technobliteratorawful
22:11.40Wormy_pagesI think he wanted on IRC really
22:11.49dromIRC is better though
22:11.55TechnobliteratorDrastically better.
22:11.56dromVery minimal
22:11.57TechnobliteratorNot even a contest.
22:11.57Wormy_pagesof course it is
22:11.59OluapPlayerGigaConflict stuff is the reason I'm only on Borealis today
22:12.04Technobliteratorthe shoutbox is so bad
22:12.07Technobliteratorso fucking bad
22:12.10CyrannianI think IRC resulted in less fiction productivity though
22:12.13TechnobliteratorI was SO GLAD Wikia removed it
22:12.20TechnobliteratorI don't
22:12.20XhoI'm at least a year behind on fiction though
22:12.25TechnobliteratorI think it resulted in less blog time wasting
22:12.29TechnobliteratorWhich, to me, is a good thing
22:12.35OluapPlayerOnly because you're all lazy and can't multitask like me
22:12.38OluapPlayerim da best
22:12.45Wormy_pagesdrom:  The best thing was on April Fool's day.  Morgoth turned SporeWiki pink to attract for feminine users.  When people complained, he turned it grey
22:12.47dromI'm in a limbo between whether I should contiune on Sporewikiverse or not
22:12.48XhoKind of the reason why I'm in the Fantasyverse more because I'm up to date on that
22:12.58TechnobliteratorI could be active, if I...wasn't busy with millions of other things
22:12.59dromWormy_pages: Hehehe
22:13.13dromTechno: I've an idea for April Fool's day
22:13.18TechnobliteratorOh?
22:13.33OluapPlayerRemind her again 6 months from now
22:14.16TechnobliteratorI vote we make a new featured captain
22:14.19TechnobliteratorCaptain:Snoop Dogg
22:14.35Xho*Lion
22:14.36OluapPlayerAnother Baby Taldar
22:14.41OluapPlayer*Zilla
22:14.52dromTechnobliterator: Snoop Four Dog
22:15.00XhoFour Dog
22:15.02Xhoy
22:15.10TechnobliteratorAnd a new featured story
22:15.15XhoFour Dog, Three Dog's cocaine-infused counterpart
22:15.19dromXho: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Three_Dog
22:15.21OluapPlayerI've had some very bad days and I almost left the wiki a couple of times, but I've kinda become addicted to the place
22:15.21Xhoc
22:15.25TechnobliteratorFiction:Real Mothafukkin Gz
22:15.37XhoYeah that's the pain of SporeWiki
22:15.46XhoIf I wasn't addicted to SporeWiki I would have left like 3 years ago
22:15.53TechnobliteratorWell, at this point
22:16.15TechnobliteratorMy IRC idles on the sporewiki channel, so I mean, I don't think there's any chance I will leave even if I wanted to
22:16.19Wormy_pagesSporeWiki is the story of my social life
22:16.33OluapPlayerI mean genuinely addicted. I grow restless if I don't have the IRC open and I check the Recent Changes every few minutes
22:16.47Wormy_pagesSame
22:16.48TechnobliteratorI'd have to consciously decide to close the sporewiki channel tab
22:16.51OluapPlayerAnd fiction-less days make me very moody
22:17.52TechnobliteratorPft
22:18.02TechnobliteratorFiction-less days are my average day at this point
22:18.10OluapPlayerAnd you're a terrible person for that
22:18.15TechnobliteratorThis is not wrong
22:18.17Wormy_pagesI mean to do fiction
22:18.36OluapPlayerI'm honestly bothered by how slow everyone is compared to me
22:18.48dromHachi.png http://i.imgur.com/dGycDPE.png
22:19.03Cyrannianhttp://infobot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/20100930.html.gz - Ngh, 5 years ago yesterday
22:19.25CyrannianI am the "Um" fellow by the way because originality
22:19.27XhoI would do fiction more
22:19.31Wormy_pagesBut honestly I don't want to be sobby, and I'm not sobby about it.  I don't have many to talk to in real life
22:19.31OluapPlayer"I are BACK NEKO SUSHI OMG ^______^"
22:19.31OluapPlayergood lord
22:20.05Technobliteratoroh wow
22:20.07Technobliteratorum2k9
22:20.08Technobliteratorthat is old
22:20.22Technobliteratorhaha
22:20.25TechnobliteratorI joined and then quit
22:20.26Technobliteratorfor no reaosn
22:20.50XhoBut my fiction is so wildly messy it's a problem to just use it
22:20.52Technobliteratorcreatureboy11?
22:20.54Wormy_pages<PROTECTED>
22:20.57Technobliteratorwho was that again?
22:21.17Technobliteratoroh, I think he made me a bcrat on spore create
22:21.20Technobliteratorand I wanted to close it
22:21.21Wormy_pagesCreator of the Pepis Empire
22:21.24Technobliteratorthen everyone got mad at me
22:21.31Technobliteratorbut CB11 just closed it himself anyway
22:21.40Technobliteratorso I was like "meh"
22:21.59Wormy_pagesNo, he turned it into another wiki and deleted everything against everyone's opinions
22:22.20OluapPlayerPepis
22:22.31OluapPlayerI always looked at that creature and thought they could serve as food for stronger empires
22:22.36Wormy_pagesI get an immature smile across my face everytime I think of the Pepis
22:22.42dromXho thinking positively: http://i.imgur.com/v7BSpUo.jpg
22:22.56TechnobliteratorI could ask Wikia to close the wiki
22:23.00XhoYep
22:23.02TechnobliteratorI am pretty close to them now
22:23.03CyrannianAh yes, the Pepis. They contacted Apollo once looking for wedding advice for some reason
22:23.21TechnobliteratorI could end your careers with one email
22:23.22Technobliterator8D
22:23.23Wormy_pagesThe Pepis are actually DCP members now
22:23.43dromI thought you were talking about Pepsi
22:23.45Wormy_pagesThey were dying out so the DCP told them "join us"
22:24.06OluapPlayerNow they're serve in kebabs in Grimbolsaurian worlds
22:24.12OluapPlayerserved*
22:24.34dromImpyDroid Xho Cyrannian: http://zippy.gfycat.com/FavoriteDefiantBrahmancow.webm
22:25.17Xhowat
22:26.33dromhttp://i.imgur.com/lTswwo3.png
22:27.55CyrannianDoes anyone else remember the early days of roleplaying on IRC in which you'd change your nickname to the character you were playing as?
22:28.10XhoOluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527946141
22:28.18XhoYup
22:28.25XhoWe then grew up
22:28.34TechnobliteratorYeah, urm
22:28.41TechnobliteratorIf I did that now, I'd be banned on half the channels I'm on
22:28.43Technobliterator:     |
22:29.02TechnobliteratorMost channels ban people for that
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22:29.24OluapPlayer_Son of a bitch
22:29.38OluapPlayer_It's less "grew up" and more that we found more efficient ways to do it
22:29.47Wormy_pagesI was a weirdo back then http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Creatureboy11/Archive_3#Chi_flame
22:30.08XhoI thought you still did meditation
22:30.18TechnobliteratorI do remember when Wormy and I had a ban war
22:30.18Technobliterator:D
22:31.08Wormy_pagesXho:  I do, but i don't broadcast it so much anymore
22:31.25XhoPerhaps I should start doing that
22:31.48Wormy_pagesActually, the tell you the truth, my experience with the chi flame I told CB11 was an honest one
22:31.54XhoLevels of rage is beginning to cause work issues
22:32.24drom"beginning"
22:32.49Wormy_pagesShortly after, I tried to do telekinesis and woke up in the middle of the night with energy surging into my skull from my spine.  And then I had a week of nightmares with ancient masters shouting at me
22:33.09Wormy_pagesI physically went very pale and thought I was dying
22:33.39Wormy_pagesSo now I'm very careful both with my chi and how I tell others
22:34.01OluapPlayer_You were just having hallucinations hur
22:34.11Wormy_pagesmaybe
22:34.55Wormy_pagesI've explored all sorts of meditation and internal alchemy, it does have strong effects.  But i think they are mental, not supernatural.
22:37.32dromThe skin around my eyes are feeling a bit sticky, perhaps it is good time to go now
22:37.34dromSee ya
22:38.39Xhoew
22:38.43XhoYeah I better go as well
22:38.53XhoGotta wake up at stupid o 'clock
22:39.18Wormy_pagesI'm still on my holiday till next week
22:39.27Xhowell fuk u
22:39.48OluapPlayer_bai u fuk
22:39.52Wormy_pagesBeen off since 1st of June
22:39.53CyrannianI hope the gaze of a thousand angry ducks soothes you into a good sleep
22:41.55XhoGreat now I'm petrified
22:44.01DrodoEmpiretest
22:47.45Wormy_pageshttp://imgur.com/gallery/pSBQeXq
22:49.26Wormy_pagesBob Mapely http://imgur.com/gallery/xFUseTK
22:55.14DrodoEmpirehur
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23:25.31Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/An_Unexpected_Adventure#Chapter_Four:_Charming_Countryside - take a look
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