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00:47.15SovnarkomHi.
00:49.24Roboticking_hi
00:51.05SovnarkomSo...
00:51.16SovnarkomI came up with some very strange "government" names.
00:51.24SovnarkomFederacy
00:51.25SovnarkomPrimacy
00:51.27SovnarkomDominate
00:51.46SovnarkomSodality?
00:54.20SovnarkomI like Federacy though.
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01:01.18Roboticking_Federacy is best
01:11.19SovnarkomYea.
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02:14.39Tek0516It's too cloudy. :/
02:21.28Tek0516~test
02:21.28infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
02:25.22Wormy_awayTek0516:  Blood moon is visible right now
02:25.34Wormy_awayI watched the whole eclipse with a telescope
02:25.42Tek0516It's cloudy here. :/
02:26.01Wormy_awayIt looks like a Dragon's eye
02:26.15Tek0516:/
02:26.28Wormy_away#bloodmoon
02:26.38Wormy_away#lunareclipse
02:27.05Wormy_away#lunar_eclipse
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02:50.05OfficerJackalAlso, if anyone cares about it, tonight the moon is supposed to turn an orange color after being blocked out by Earth's shadow or something. At least that's what happened over here in Florida, Eastern Standard Time.
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02:51.44Wormy_awayOfficerJackal: I watched the whole eclipse
02:51.55OfficerJackalYeah, it was pretty cool. :D
02:52.27Wormy_awayUsing a telescope, I watched Earth's shadow pass over the mountains and craters
02:52.52Wormy_awayI also saw meteors and bats
02:53.48OfficerJackalWow, makes me want to invest in a telescope. XD
02:54.40Wormy_awayIndeed, they are excellent to have for occasions like this.
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15:19.38Wormy_Cyrannian, Hachiman:  Very important discovery http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars
15:22.51CyrannianFascinating stuff
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15:25.41dromHello
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15:31.54OfficerJackalhttp://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/science/space/mars-life-liquid-water.html?_r=0
15:34.03HachimanBut it's only evidence of liquid water
15:34.09HachimanNot actual liquid water
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15:37.08Wormy_As evidence goes, it's the smoking gun (but yes its never 100%) that liquid water, though impure, it causing it.  It's not the first time flows have been observed on Mars either, but they didn't have the evidence revealed now.
15:42.15Wormy_They now have spectral data of hydrated salts; and the high salt content lowers the freezing point of water.
15:43.02Wormy_I wouldn't trust any media that declares it a potential habitat for life - the seasons for water would be short and it would probably be briny and toxic.
15:43.16Wormy_*it would be briny
15:45.14OfficerJackalYeah, I was thinking that, it would be a very tough environment to microbial life to exist in. Still amazing though there's water there, even though it's toxic. :D
15:46.16Wormy_There are some lifeforms of Earth which can survive highly salty environments, but given how cold that water is, there's not much energy there.
15:46.52Wormy_It could mean there is a lot more water underground, or that it could melt under the ice caps - potential habitats of life
15:48.45HachimanFact of the matter is, if life exists on Mars, that will inevitably afflict potential future terraformation and human colonisation efforts without effecting the state of it
15:49.02Wormy_http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/
15:49.18Wormy_They're talking about the spectral analysis now
15:49.36Wormy_Yes, it would affect our colonisation and terraforming of it
15:51.35Wormy_Some think we might have already contaminated Mars.
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16:16.24LuxorHai
16:34.11dromWormy_away: I found a website which is dedicated to rocketpunk sci-fi, but also centralizes on the general concepts of space sci-fi and the most occuring elements
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16:57.31Wormy_awaydrom:  Link me!
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16:59.12dromWormy_away: Currently doing a collaborative homework in Civics
17:00.13Hachimanspoo
17:00.16Xhooo
17:01.30Wormy_away5 cyborg bodyhacks today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6gJkwRIZao
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17:05.29Wormy_[18:04] <Wormy_away> ooh I seea sundog
17:07.14Wormy_Nature has given us a lot of gifts today.
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17:36.51LuxorOnAcidHya
17:37.36LuxorOnAcidAy.
17:37.51Tek0516...
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17:39.52dino82_hello all!
17:39.59dino82_Beings of the Moral Plane!
17:40.03dino82_How is allz doing :P
17:40.44Technobliteratorhi dino :o
17:41.03TechnobliteratorI wanted to ask you about something, but I forgot what it was now
17:45.12dino82_@Jo: Go ahead!
17:45.21dino82_@Jo: Oh I forgot to read the last part :D
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17:58.10Wormy_my elbow is humming.
17:58.43Wormy_and vibrating
17:58.45Wormy_help
17:58.57dino82_auch
18:02.37dino82_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zule_Grunzar
18:02.42Wormy_people zoo http://imgur.com/gallery/QtZzua6
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18:04.18Wormy_nice work dino
18:07.19Wormy_Why I don't make chips http://imgur.com/gallery/KN9gT
18:08.41Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/ksqUZIO
18:09.31dino82_Thanks Wormy!
18:09.57SovnarkomHow would a quadrapedal Spore creature be able to command a starship?
18:10.00SovnarkomThey don't have hands!
18:10.01Sovnarkom:c
18:12.48HachimanCommanding is not the same thing as handling
18:12.57SovnarkomOh.
18:13.01SovnarkomThen handling.
18:13.04HachimanThey can just get a biped with hands to do the physical labour
18:13.15SovnarkomThat's true.
18:13.21HachimanOr have things done with automated voice command
18:14.11dino82_or use telephatic bonds with the ships computer systems
18:14.57Charles_MurrayOr have a completely different control system we can't imagine because we're so used to manipulating things with our hands.
18:16.07Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/rKoYWXQ
18:17.00Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/27zFbFP
18:18.26Wormy_Xho:  "likes metallica" http://imgur.com/gallery/irwdmJ0
18:18.56SovnarkomI see.
18:19.29SovnarkomBasically voice commands, telepathy, physical labor, or some other crazy control mechanism.
18:21.22dromOr manipulation with the mouth
18:21.38Sovnarkom.-.
18:21.44dromCrows is a fine example of this
18:22.27SovnarkomOh, okay.
18:22.56SovnarkomDo any of you play Mass Effect?
18:23.52Wormy_Some of us do.  I tried it, and got annoyed at its clunky game mechanics./
18:24.09SovnarkomThere is a race known as the Elcor.
18:24.10Wormy_ME1 that is
18:24.19SovnarkomThey are like giant bipedal creatures.
18:24.26SovnarkomThey look nice.
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18:25.11Wormy_hi
18:25.15GhelaeHello.
18:25.18SovnarkomHello.
18:25.53SovnarkomSorry, not bipedal.
18:25.55SovnarkomQuadrapedal.
18:25.57SovnarkomMy mistake.
18:26.11Wormy_I liked the game and the universe for Mass Effect, but I entered a level too early and couldn't defeat the woman
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18:26.29Wormy_I had no idea you needed to level up first
18:26.54Wormy_Coupled with the fact you can't skip cutscenes, plus some bugs I encountered in the game, I realised I was enjoying it anymore
18:27.02Wormy_I might try and play ME2 though
18:27.11HachimanME2 = Best in the series
18:27.15dromSovnarkom: We are quadrapedal creatures, but our forelegs are called arms due to slight modifications and the very advanced hands.
18:27.21Wormy_*I realised I wasn't enjoying
18:27.29SovnarkomInteresting, drom.
18:27.34SovnarkomWhat is your empire?
18:27.39SovnarkomI wish to see it.
18:27.41dromNomatari Sovereignty
18:27.59SovnarkomThanks.
18:28.11dromSovnarkom: Lazy link: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty
18:29.07SovnarkomIt's really cool.
18:29.11SovnarkomThe starships are amazing.
18:31.09SovnarkomI really like the organization of the page as well.
18:32.50dromThank you :)
18:33.31SovnarkomThe Great Xonexian Schism...
18:33.38SovnarkomOh, the DCP are at it again.
18:33.42SovnarkomFrom what I heard at least.
18:36.21Robotickingnot for lon
18:36.24RobotickingLon
18:36.26Robotickinglong*
18:37.00Robotickingthe GXS will be shifting from the DCP to the Civilization if I am not mistaken
18:37.03HachimanYeah, not for long; the DCP would have vanquished its rivals soon enough hur
18:37.59SovnarkomThe DCP are really powerful, huh?
18:38.08RobotickingHigh tier 1
18:38.26Robotickingoh nvm
18:38.30Roboticking1.7...
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18:38.46Robotickingreally they are only 1.7 on the tier scale?
18:38.58Robotickinghello drom
18:39.37drom_Who?
18:39.50Hachiman>only 1.7
18:39.54HachimanThat IS high tier 1
18:39.58Tek0516Tier 1 is only one tier down from being literal gods
18:40.22drom_The tier system is meh in my opinion
18:40.39Tek0516It's not a perfect measure.
18:40.45GhelaeNumerically, 1.7 is closer to 2.0 than 1.0. I can't even remember whether it works that way in the tier scale or whether it's the other way around.
18:41.03Tek0516I think it counts down
18:41.15Tek0516<PROTECTED>
18:41.43drom_I rather round the values
18:41.47GhelaeAlthough I don't remember seeing decimal places in the tier scale recently, in part because of how imperfect a measure it (or indeed, any measure of advancement) is.
18:41.58Tek0516Definitely
18:44.18Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation - yeah, no decimal places.
18:44.46SovnarkomSo...
18:44.48dromOr, floor them for your convience
18:44.55SovnarkomAny strange government names you guys come up with?
18:45.01Robotickingthen how come there are multiple empires that have the decimal in them (which apparently mine are!)
18:45.07SovnarkomLike Federacy, Ascendancy, or maybe Independency?
18:45.21dromElse ceiling them if you hates the though of rounding or flooring
18:45.22RobotickingThe Valdron Collective
18:45.27dromthought*
18:45.47Ghelaedrom: That can result in odd expressions such as ceil(1.7)=0 :P
18:46.21GhelaeRoboticking: A lot of pages were probably based around the older versions of the tier scale.
18:46.36Robotickingah, i should fix mine then
18:46.51GhelaeBack then we even needed a "Tier U" for any deviation from the linear scale.
18:47.01Tek0516Yeah
18:47.03Wormy_Ghelae:  I'll leave people to make their own estimates about decimals.  But yeah, I can't decide easily on such a measure, and it also might be perceived unfair
18:47.19dromIsn't ceil the function that always rounds a number to one integer increment.
18:47.40Wormy_But I have a general idea.  The DCP, the Daleks and the Time Lords are Tier 1, but on very different parts of the scale.
18:47.43dromFor instance ceil(1.2) returns 2
18:47.59dromWhile floor(1.9) returns 1
18:48.01Ghelaedrom: Yes, so normally ceil(1.7)=2, but the next highest *tier* from 1.7 is 0.
18:48.20SovnarkomThe Jenassian Regency's ships are pretty cool.
18:48.22SovnarkomAnd gold.
18:48.33GhelaeWormy_: That's why you included the (unnumbered) subcategories to each tier, isn't it?
18:49.10Wormy_Yes
18:49.23Wormy_I noticed there were ways to group the tiers
18:49.58GhelaeAlso, for people who don't know about it: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Technology_tree
18:50.04Wormy_Some Tier 1 civs specialised in areas like hyperspace or time travel, and others in gravitational technology.  And some were more general.
18:50.21dromI rather describe NS as a low-tier civilization with high-tier capabilities
18:50.36dromAlso, very high on that Karshadev scale
18:51.11dromThere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
18:51.17dromKardashev scale
18:51.40Wormy_Most SporeWiki civs are 2.5 on that.
18:51.47Robotickingyes i saw that too wormy, its rather interesting the specialzation
18:51.50Tek0516Farengeto is an odd case. In some cases it's a late Tier 4 civilization, but thanks to France it has many Tier 2 technolgies
18:52.17GhelaeWe do also have ways to categorise civilisations like that.
18:52.17Tek0516So anywhere between 2 and 4 depending on where you look
18:52.41dromI'm considering creating a rocketpunk empire, but I feel more like the space is about cramped now
18:52.42GhelaeBut I think it's buried somewhere that isn't easily visible on Wormy's page. :P
18:52.53Wormy_Orion's Arm characterises 2.5 as subgalactic civilisation capable of transporting stellar scale power sources - hypermatter reactors and wormhole networks in our case.  Although arguably hypermatter reactors push closer to Type III
18:52.57dromI know I am wrong, but I don't feel quite alright about it
18:53.37GhelaeFor example, we might say that Farengeto is Tier 2, uplifted, because they have some Tier 2 tech but not the rest of the development that comes with creating it all on their own.
18:54.23Wormy_"Tech Gifted" http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Established_Interstellar_Median_.28Tier_2.29
18:54.26GhelaeWormy_: Hypermatter makes me wonder how useful the Kardashev scale even is for the SporeWikiverse, when it seems most civilisations can simply summon however much energy they ever want straight from hyperspace.
18:54.41GhelaeAh, yes; that's it. "Tech gifted".
18:55.51Wormy_That's correct, restrictions now seem to be arbitrary. Only knowledge and growth appears to be a gap between the abilities of hyperspatial civilisations and elder hyperpstial civilisations
18:56.09GhelaeThere's also "tech-collapsed" for those that have lost technology but still have the size of a more advanced empire, "transplanted" for those who have been spread across the universe more than you'd expect from their own transport technology, and "size-collapsed" for those who lost much of their territory but have kept their tech.
18:56.56GhelaeOh, there's a list just before the great big "Tier Scale V3" header.
18:57.06Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:192744#Categories_per_tier
18:57.15Wormy_I've listed many of them here
18:57.25Ghelae"size-collapsed, fully collapsed, tech-collapsed; non-expansive, median, swarm; tech-gifted, fully gifted and transplanted"
18:58.13GhelaeIn each set of three, the first is more tech than you'd expect from size, the third is more size than you'd expect from tech, and the second is average.
18:58.52GhelaeThe first triplet is the result of collapse, the second the result of normal development, and the third the result of outside help.
18:59.59GhelaeAnd that should account for pretty much everything.
19:00.46dromWormy_ Ghelae: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/
19:00.54Wormy_The advantage of "non-expansive" is that it can account for alien civilisations which are psychologically different and grow in different ways, what the traditional Tier U was, but it does it without having to subcategorise such aliens even further.
19:01.14Wormy_Tier U became lumped with much of these subcategories
19:01.25Ghelaedrom: I remember that site. I'm sure I've used some of it before, but there must be a lot of pages there I still haven't read.
19:01.55Wormy_drom:  Oh wow, that's really cool
19:03.52dromWormy_ Ghelae: One of the best things is that it is aimed on diamond-hard rocketpunk sci-fi
19:05.03dromAnd addresses spacecraft rather as spacecraft or rockets, rather than naval terminology
19:05.43dromAnd depises the idea of calling small and fast armed space craft as "space fighters"
19:06.36dromArguring that Space *isn't* an airspace nor an ocean, reasoning that aerial and naval terminology is completely irrelevant in space
19:09.19GhelaeAir is a fluid. Water is a fluid. Vacuum is not a fluid. So simply enough yes, aerial and naval are far closer to each other than either is to space.
19:09.21HachimanHm, a daddy-long-legs
19:09.25HachimanYeah #nope
19:11.18Wormy_drom, Ghelae:  Rocket science reminds me of a more modern type of this site, though it is slightly less hard http://www.orbitalvector.com/
19:11.30Wormy_Hachiman:  I found a flying ant in my room
19:11.37Hachimanech
19:12.19Wormy_They also have a tech level sysatem, but I disagree with some of the placings http://www.orbitalvector.com/Tech%20Levels.htm
19:12.43Wormy_http://www.orbitalvector.com/Essays/TECH%20LEVELS%20OF%20SCIENCE%20FICTION%20GROUPS%20AND%20CULTURES.htm
19:17.12Wormy_Ghelae:  Have you heard about news of Mars?
19:17.19GhelaeWater.
19:17.25Wormy_yes
19:18.41Wormy_I wonder if NASA waited to announce it after the Blood Moon on purpose
19:20.00Wormy_Ugh, Dailymail.  But interesting concepts here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3249387/Firm-Apple-s-Spaceship-HQ-reveals-plans-Nasa-backed-3D-printed-Mars-habitat-built-robots.html
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19:22.57LuxorSaysHelloHello
19:23.06LuxorSaysHelloFor the 3rd time today
19:23.20GhelaeHello.
19:24.35Wormy_I remember years ago people thought there was plantlife on Mars thanks to these geysers spreading dark stuff everywhere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geyser_(Mars)
19:26.15GhelaeThere were all kinds of things that particular people would claim to be evidence of life (and especially ancient civilisations) on Mars. And often also that NASA was covering it up etc etc.
19:26.34GhelaeI specifically remember "glass worms", which were supposed to be long half-buried transparent tunnels.
19:26.51GhelaeThey were rows of sand dunes inside valleys.
19:29.26dromgah my hand is sleeping
19:29.30Wormy_Some people still defend the debunked ideas
19:31.40Wormy_Even the Face of Mars
19:34.05GhelaeWell, what's not to like about the idea of Martians?
19:36.40dromTechno: Loron... http://new4.fjcdn.com/comments/Silly+toe+nees+more+dakka+if+he+gonna+fight+da+_090fad5ea4c5ce15ffa445a79abba982.jpg
19:40.52Robotickingtest
19:42.17dino82_@drom: That is one kickign awesome vessel
19:47.57dino82_bye bye all
19:49.38RobotickingHave asteroids ever been used in fiction as a rock in a slingshot?
19:50.29GhelaeI'm sure they've been weaponised, but probably not quite like that.
19:51.26GhelaeA literal slingshot would require a stupidly strong and elastic material to impart any reasonable force to an asteroid. "Bullet in a gun" would be a more apt analogy for other launching techniques.
19:51.31RobotickingLet me rephrase that, has anyone launched an asteroid into a ship
19:51.48GhelaeNot that I can recall, no.
19:51.50Robotickingyes, that is a better analogy
19:51.59Robotickingis it actually fesable?
19:52.13GhelaeDepending on the size of the ship it might be a little overkill. :P
19:52.43HachimanRailguns are far more efficient
19:52.48HachimanYou require less mass
19:53.02GhelaeThe main problem with feasibility is, again, asteroids are heavy. So there are better projectiles to use if you want to minimise the chance that your enemy with simply move out of the way.
19:53.13Robotickingtrue
19:53.28RobotickingI was just asking as i think i saw that in a movie once
19:53.35Robotickingand wondered if it could actually work
19:54.14GhelaeIt could work. It's just unlikely to be something that will both a) be put into practice and then b) actually succeed.
19:54.58Robotickingalright, thanks Ghelae
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20:00.39DrodoEmpireHey everyone
20:00.49GhelaeHello.
20:01.08Robotickinghelo
20:01.11Robotickinghello*
20:01.39dromDawh, foxes are so cute when they squabble
20:04.34dromWormy_away Ghelae: https://twitter.com/thepunningman/status/648435207180296193
20:08.01GhelaeIt never occured to me just how much like a pie chart he looked.
20:12.38dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/7y8IQxG.webm
20:13.48XhoI would not put it past him
20:16.48dromDrodoEmpire Charles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/z9EVG1X.jpg?1
20:16.57dromAlso Tek0516: Check dat
20:17.50Tek0516I don't get it
20:20.30dromCyrannian Wormy_away Ghelae: http://i.imgur.com/GLw4rb3.gif
20:26.07DrodoEmpireTek: Really...? XD
20:26.09DrodoEmpireAlso lol
20:27.07HachimanWOLOLOLO
20:30.26DrodoEmpiretest
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20:33.06dromTek0516: Hasn't enough of WOLOLOLO
20:36.00Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d6/Narrasturvaran2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150928203526 New model of this guy
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20:38.11GhelaeHello.
20:39.09dromDrodoEmpire Hachiman Charles_Murray Tek0516: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/932/738/a89.png
20:39.40Catfacewut
20:40.22DrodoEmpirelul
20:42.03XhoI still don't get that joke
20:42.21DrodoEmpireIts from an old game called Age of Empires.
20:42.38DrodoEmpireThere was a unit called a Monk that could convert units, while it did so it made an odd "Wolololo" noise
20:43.00DrodoEmpireMonk in particular is from AoE II, I believe
20:43.34dromYeah, AOE II
20:44.09dromAOE I had the pre-medival romans, assyrians, egyptians and such
20:44.47DrodoEmpireYeah
20:44.50DrodoEmpireNever played it actually
20:44.55DrodoEmpirePlayed II and III though
20:45.23dromI liked II and III more though hur
20:45.37dromII is perhaps the best of the bunch
20:45.58DrodoEmpireYeah that's true
20:45.59dromDrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/UVHhexT.jpg
20:46.08DrodoEmpirehur
20:46.08DrodoEmpireYeah
20:46.28XhoOkay well that's a terrifying sound
20:50.20dromDrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/wjLy5vg.png
20:50.33DrodoEmpirelol
20:50.51dromDrodoEmpire Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/QBr7e0c.jpg
20:54.53dromMaaan, I should get that AOE II remastered edition
21:02.01dromDrodoEmpire Hachiman Xho Tek0516: http://i.imgur.com/cKfiXCa.jpg
21:02.25DrodoEmpirelolol
21:02.55Xhodur
21:09.05dromDrodoEmpire Xho Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/yUvoBhK.jpg
21:09.27XhoI've lost the humour completely
21:10.26DrodoEmpireBah I'm just gonna try rewriting a bunch of the Drodo military
21:10.54DrodoEmpireNot in its content really but just cleaning it up
21:13.18Tek0516I've been working on a bunch of random stuff lately
21:14.12Tek0516<PROTECTED>
21:14.18Tek0516*GXS
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21:14.35AdmiralPandahi all
21:14.40Tek0516Hello
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21:49.22Wormy_awayRobotticking:  To answer your earlier question, SpioreWikiverse has done better: launched entire stars.
21:51.12Wormy_awayRoboticking http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ANew_Grox_Wars/Phase_2#Portentous_Discovery http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AProject_Exodus#The_Project
21:51.57Robotickingwell then...
21:55.37Tek0516Desperate times call for desperate measures?
21:58.07RobotickingIt would appear so
22:01.26dromWormy_away: http://www.osfa.org.uk/essay-19.htm
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