IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150927

00:00.00*** join/#sporewiki Sovnarkom (18fd10af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.253.16.175)
00:03.40DrodoEmpireHey
00:04.12SovnarkomHi.
00:04.59SovnarkomIt's been a while.
00:07.05DrodoEmpireIndeed
00:07.12DrodoEmpireI dunno if I remember you though... Hmm...
00:07.43The_RandomnessI don't
00:08.09DrodoEmpireshrugs
00:08.09DrodoEmpireMeh
00:09.16SovnarkomI was the guy who was making that dumb confederacy thing?
00:09.22SovnarkomIt didn't work out as planned.
00:09.24Sovnarkom._.
00:09.29DrodoEmpireDumb confederacy thing...
00:09.38SovnarkomLike it was...
00:09.43DrodoEmpireWell I know of one real-life example though I doubt that's the one
00:09.45SovnarkomI think the Tharsis Confederacy?
00:09.47SovnarkomI don't know.
00:09.49DrodoEmpireOh?
00:09.54DrodoEmpireLemme look it u
00:09.56DrodoEmpire*up
00:10.21DrodoEmpireAnyhow, what brings you back?
00:10.29SovnarkomI don't know.
00:10.31SovnarkomHobbies?
00:10.37SovnarkomMaybe my somewhat love for Sci-Fi?
00:10.40SovnarkomI'm not sure.
00:11.01DrodoEmpireAh
00:11.08SovnarkomSorry if I sound like a smartass, I don't mean to come across as that.
00:11.27DrodoEmpireIts fine, its fine. XD
00:12.28SovnarkomThe page I made for my empire was terrible.
00:12.34SovnarkomLiterally dead with no info on it.
00:12.42SovnarkomExcept for the textbox on the side.
00:13.54DrodoEmpireRight.
00:20.32SovnarkomRather than making an empire with many races, I'd rather just do one race.
00:20.42SovnarkomOh god, it sounds like some kind of Hitlerian ranting.
00:20.43SovnarkomXD
00:21.49DrodoEmpirelul
00:22.19dromSIEG HEILI
00:22.24SovnarkomOh Jesus.
00:22.40DrodoEmpireAnyway, sounds good.
00:22.44SovnarkomI looked at the Icolian Assemblage.
00:22.48SovnarkomAll I can say is...
00:22.51SovnarkomBoxes and Triangles.
00:22.53SovnarkomLots and lots...
00:22.54DrodoEmpireThis channel is a great place to go to for fiction advice
00:22.56Sovnarkomof triangles.
00:22.57DrodoEmpireOh? XD
00:23.15SovnarkomNah, but their vehicles are really cool.
00:23.19SovnarkomI like their space stations.
00:23.21SovnarkomBoxy and...
00:23.25SovnarkomYou guessed it, triangular.
00:24.11dromWell. They are Tholians from Star Trek to begin
00:24.18The_RandomnessYeah
00:25.13SovnarkomOh.
00:25.16SovnarkomThat makes sense.
00:25.45SovnarkomThey look like diamond insects.
00:25.48SovnarkomDinsects?
00:26.49DrodoEmpirehur
00:27.14dromTholians live in extremely hot environments
00:31.12SovnarkomI see.
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00:33.22SovnarkomNow I'm looking at Star Trek races and empires, lol.
00:33.44Wormy_Sovnar!
00:33.49dromWormy_ http://i.imgur.com/upcKwDO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/thf5QHs.jpg
00:34.03dromHe who to sleep a lot
00:34.12dromRemember that, Sovnarkom?
00:34.20dromHe who loves to*
00:35.00Wormy_I love him
00:38.48Wormy_*it
00:38.55Wormy_sorry beer that is
00:39.33Wormy_nig head of froth though
00:39.36Wormy_big
00:39.52Wormy_I'd refuse tat pint
00:40.31dromWormy_: You don't realize that both of them are photoshopped?
00:41.03DrodoEmpireI think he does realize, he's just more interested in the beer. XD
00:41.07DrodoEmpireGood man.
00:41.08DrodoEmpireXD
00:43.23Wormy_!!
00:43.37Wormy_I went to a beer festival
00:43.43Wormy_And the ro a pub
00:43.54Sovnarkomsorry.
00:43.55SovnarkomI'm back.
00:43.58SovnarkomOh...
00:44.00SovnarkomWormy!
00:44.02SovnarkomLol
00:44.02Wormy_Welcome
00:45.27SovnarkomIt's been a while.
00:46.24Wormy_I was looking on your userpage earlier
00:46.37Wormy_which is really strange
00:46.42SovnarkomYea.
00:46.52SovnarkomMy one page I created was pretty bad.
00:46.56SovnarkomI'm asking for a deletion.
00:47.01SovnarkomNo info on it.
00:47.30Wormy_Not so strange then, I must have accessed your edit from the recent activity
00:47.41Wormy_My memory is beginning to die off
00:48.03Wormy_probably from age and alcohol
00:49.54DrodoEmpireYou aren't all that old are you? XD
00:50.00DrodoEmpireAlcohol yeah perhaps
00:50.37Wormy_21, but this must be bad
00:51.44SovnarkomSo I'm starting up a new faction.
00:51.47Sovnarkom;)
00:51.59Robotickingwhat is the name of it, if I may ask?
00:52.03SovnarkomThis time, instead of a collection of races, just one race.
00:52.13SovnarkomOne, glorious, superior race!
00:52.19SovnarkomJust kidding, but...
00:52.22RobotickingAnd hello, I'm Roboticking, and I have returned from a year long exodus
00:52.22SovnarkomI don't have a name yet.
00:52.28DrodoEmpireraciss
00:52.43Robotickingi had returned*
01:01.17SovnarkomIs the Delpha Coalition of Planets even doing much?
01:01.28DrodoEmpireA lot really
01:01.30SovnarkomI don't mean this as insult, I'm just curious.
01:01.36DrodoEmpireThe Great Xonexi Schism is going on
01:01.44DrodoEmpireWhich is a *biig* fiction
01:02.13SovnarkomOoh.
01:02.19SovnarkomI heard of it before I migrated.
01:02.22SovnarkomLet me see that.
01:02.23DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGreat_Xonexian_Schism
01:02.29Wormy_HAH I@M THE DCP OWNER
01:02.36Wormy_hah hah
01:02.37DrodoEmpireTalk to Charles Murray, Wormy, or Monet to learn mpre
01:02.48SovnarkomOkay.
01:03.20Wormy_Yes, Great Xonexian Scism, DCP -Vermulan War and Prpject Exodus
01:03.26Wormy_I got excited
01:04.15Wormy_Put Fiction: and correct obvious spelling errors and you should get the right pages
01:04.27SovnarkomInteresting.
01:04.30SovnarkomFrance died...
01:04.31Sovnarkom._.
01:04.36DrodoEmpireNot really
01:04.44DrodoEmpireIts colonies reformed into the Empire.
01:04.47Wormy_dcp - stoopid revlutionaries
01:04.49DrodoEmpireWhich is back with a vengeance
01:04.54DrodoEmpireDrodo - ayy lmao
01:05.45SovnarkomYea.
01:05.51SovnarkomStoopid wevulwutionawies.
01:06.07SovnarkomSo France is like Pokemon and evolved into the French Empire?
01:06.09Wormy_Indeed
01:06.11SovnarkomSeems legit.
01:06.35DrodoEmpireWell no. XD The mainland was taken and its colonies became the French Colonial Empire, led by Alexandre I
01:06.53SovnarkomOh okay.
01:06.55SovnarkomThat makes sense.
01:07.29Robotickingand the Valdron collective is one the rise!
01:07.31Robotickingon*
01:07.57Robotickingwell, not really, but we are expanding...slowly....
01:08.37SovnarkomWell, at least you're following your dreams.
01:08.38Sovnarkom;)
01:09.40Robotickingthanks
01:09.53Robotickingbut at least im established in two fictions!
01:10.19SovnarkomThat's good.
01:10.26SovnarkomI'm established in no fictions.
01:10.27Sovnarkom;)
01:10.37SovnarkomActually, more like...
01:10.38Sovnarkom:c
01:11.44Robotickingwell start one up!
01:12.00SovnarkomI tried.
01:12.00Robotickingmake connections and allies between other fictions
01:12.04SovnarkomAnd it failed miserably.
01:12.16Robotickingwell try again and do your best
01:12.21SovnarkomI made the page, ran out of ideas, and abandoned it.
01:12.27SovnarkomI'm trying to delete it and make a new page.
01:12.48RobotickingCreate an original story, it does not have to be a masterpiece, just something that can be steadily improved upon
01:13.03Robotickingdo you want a race idea for your empire?
01:13.31Robotickingbut i suggest if you take that route, modifying the story for yourself
01:14.46SovnarkomSure, why not.
01:14.49SovnarkomThrow ideas at me!
01:14.55SovnarkomBut not like ideas carved into bricks.
01:14.56SovnarkomThat hurts.
01:14.58Sovnarkom._.
01:15.12DrodoEmpireDodge'em like dubya
01:15.24DrodoEmpire<PROTECTED>
01:15.38Robotickingaccidentally throws a brick shaped idea
01:16.55SovnarkomOw.
01:17.03Sovnarkom;-;
01:19.47Robotickinghow about an chaotic evil race of bipedal insectoids that hope to establish their doinance in one of the galaxies (of your choosing)
01:20.41SovnarkomOh my god.
01:20.45SovnarkomI had an idea similar to that.
01:20.50SovnarkomOnly they were wasps.
01:21.27Robotickingthat would work
01:21.32Robotickingmake it your own!
01:22.14Robotickingmake the wasps have their own name, look up the best galaxy for them
01:25.36SovnarkomMhm.
01:25.40SovnarkomInteresting.
01:27.56Robotickingand i think you should use their poison as a natural weapon for them, but make their biology your own
01:28.19Robotickingand think it through and write an interesting history that can be improved upon
01:28.44SovnarkomYes...
01:28.56SovnarkomAnd then humans, Cyrannians, everyone shall be slaves to the new order!
01:29.05SovnarkomGlory to the Hive!
01:29.20SovnarkomThe fields of victory will run red with their blood!
01:29.48RobotickingThere you go
01:29.48DrodoEmpireHIVEAHU AKBAR
01:29.58Robotickingface palms
01:30.20SovnarkomLOL
01:30.26SovnarkomOr maybe an empire of ants?
01:30.30SovnarkomReally large, scary ants.
01:30.33Robotickingiits up to you
01:30.34Robotickingits*
01:30.39Robotickingbut i like the wasp idea
01:30.40DrodoEmpireI dunno, ants can't strap very big bombs onto themselves
01:30.51Robotickingas you can have aerial drones assualt
01:30.54SovnarkomThere is a type of ant called a suicide ant.
01:31.00Robotickingand strap bombs to themsleves
01:31.08DrodoEmpireOh true
01:31.12SovnarkomThey rub their muscles in their abdomen so fast they blow themselves up, spraying acid onto their enemies.
01:31.19Robotickingis your fiction called the hive?
01:31.48SovnarkomNo.
01:31.55SovnarkomI don't have a fiction currently.
01:32.03Robotickingthe idea for you
01:32.08Robotickingare you calling it the hive
01:32.12Robotickingor something else
01:32.28SovnarkomI'm not sure.
01:32.32SovnarkomI'm currently collecting ideas.
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01:33.27DrodoEmpireHello
01:33.48Robotickingwell do you like the idea you have now>
01:33.53Robotickingif so, then expand upon it
01:34.11Robotickingstart off small, tier 3-4 empire, a few hundred-thousand years in age etc.
01:34.35Robotickingbase yourself in a galaxy
01:34.41Roboticking<PROTECTED>
01:35.13DrodoEmpire(Don't need to be hundreds of thousand years old)
01:35.27DrodoEmpire(Judge age by the age of the political entity, as opposed to the species)
01:35.53DrodoEmpire(For example, the modern Drodo species has been about for about 200 000 years, but the Drodo Empire has only been about for a little over 200.)
01:36.03SovnarkomOr alternatively, a race of space midgets who follow communism.
01:36.26SovnarkomSpeaking of the Drodo.
01:36.30SovnarkomWhy do you have cavalry?
01:36.33SovnarkomIn the age of space?
01:36.40SovnarkomI'm curious.
01:36.52DrodoEmpireAhh...
01:36.54DrodoEmpireLemme tell you.
01:36.55DrodoEmpireXD
01:37.04The_RandomnessBasically, Rule of Cool
01:37.11DrodoEmpireThat and practical stuff
01:37.14DrodoEmpireJustified rule of cool
01:37.16DrodoEmpireXD
01:37.21The_Randomnessright.
01:37.21DrodoEmpireBasically, their cavalry are really souped-up.
01:37.24SovnarkomOh.
01:37.24SovnarkomXD
01:38.26DrodoEmpireThey use mechanical horses capable of almost 200 kph, they have energy shielding around them that can block most forms of weaponry for short time, and they use vibrosabres, power-lances capable of cracking-open tank armour, and pistols, carbines, and anti-materiel rifles
01:38.30Robotickingdrodo
01:38.36Robotickingcan you look at my fiction real quick
01:38.42Robotickingsee if their age is too much
01:39.08DrodoEmpireAlso, their Cuirassiers have additional armour in the form of a shiny Cuirass and helmet
01:39.17DrodoEmpireAlright. Link?
01:39.31Robotickinghttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Valdron_Collective
01:39.43DrodoEmpire(The shielding alone can block an entire or almost an entire magazine of assault-rifle ammunition)
01:40.30DrodoEmpireThe Cuirass provides some last-resort protection in case that fails (along with extra weight to add to the charge), as the Cuirassiers are the heavy cavalry that have to charge head-on into practically anything
01:40.48DrodoEmpireAt the height of a battle of course
01:41.54SovnarkomLol
01:42.00SovnarkomThe Union of Soviet Socialist Space Republics.
01:42.02SovnarkomUSSSR.
01:42.03Sovnarkom;)
01:42.06DrodoEmpireHm?
01:42.53Robotickingand http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Bastnliues_Republic
01:42.57Robotickingare they too old?
01:43.06Robotickingshould i make the age a little bit back?
01:43.12Robotickinga wee bit younger?
01:43.52DrodoEmpireThe republic is indeed quite old
01:43.59DrodoEmpireCould use maybe some scaling back?
01:44.12DrodoEmpireValdrons maybe too
01:44.16DrodoEmpireBut that;s all your call
01:44.28Robotickinghow far should i recall it
01:44.31SovnarkomAre your empires in the Accords?
01:44.33Robotickingfor republic
01:44.36DrodoEmpireHmm
01:44.42Robotickingthe bastnliues will be added to the accords soon
01:44.42DrodoEmpireWell 25k is a *really* old nation
01:44.49SovnarkomOh okay.
01:44.56Robotickingso maybe 10 thousand?
01:45.07DrodoEmpireKeep in mind that all of recorded human history is ten, eight thousand
01:45.20DrodoEmpireAnd think of how many states, cultures, and events we went through in just that time
01:46.18SovnarkomA lot?
01:46.31DrodoEmpireIndeed.
01:46.53DrodoEmpireNow multiply that by almost three. XD
01:47.02SovnarkomSo...
01:47.08SovnarkomA lot a lot?
01:47.09SovnarkomLol
01:47.12DrodoEmpireIndeed.
01:47.20DrodoEmpireI'd scale it back to maybe a few thousand
01:47.23DrodoEmpireBut its your choice
01:47.35DrodoEmpire(A few thousand at most)
01:48.13Robotickingso 5,561?
01:48.21Robotickingfor the bastnliues
01:48.26DrodoEmpireThat's still quite old but sure
01:48.31Robotickingand 3,450 for the Valdron
01:48.36Robotickingwell
01:48.51SovnarkomMaybe I should make an intergalactic Belgium.
01:49.00SovnarkomA really confusing empire with weird political loopholes.
01:49.01SovnarkomXD
01:49.04Robotickingthe territory should make sense with the date i think
01:49.05DrodoEmpirelul
01:49.34SovnarkomI mean seriously, in Belgium, the state governments have equal power to the federal one.
01:49.35Sovnarkom.-.
01:51.10SovnarkomI wonder if there are any "anarchist" factions.
01:51.17DrodoEmpireEhh
01:51.18DrodoEmpireI dunno
01:51.25SovnarkomMaybe local tribes?
01:51.29SovnarkomBut other than that...
01:51.46DrodoEmpireI dunno if I'd say tribes are anarchist.
01:52.27DrodoEmpireEgalitarian sure
02:16.58SovnarkomAnd I thought the Icolians were geometric as hell.
02:17.12SovnarkomThe Neraida Gigamatrix has boxy spaceships.
02:25.30SovnarkomThere was conflict between the New Cyrannian Republic and the Galactic Empire of Cyrannia?
02:25.33SovnarkomInteresting.
02:25.51TechnobliteratorNot much of one
02:26.00Robotickingits more of a cold war
02:26.15SovnarkomOh.
02:26.16SovnarkomOkay.
02:26.27SovnarkomWell, I'm talking before they made peace.
02:33.07SovnarkomI honestly don't know why I have this username.
02:33.16SovnarkomI ran out of ideas, so I just looked up weird names.
02:33.20SovnarkomAnd I picked Sovnarkom.
02:33.21SovnarkomXD
02:34.04DrodoEmpireAhh
02:35.47SovnarkomIt's like one of those usernames that you regret making, but keep because there just something to it that is good.
02:35.50SovnarkomThat's basically my username.
02:37.27Robotickingi must go, farewell
02:37.48SovnarkomSeeya later.
02:37.50Sovnarkom:c
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03:11.17TekDroidHello
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03:24.02SovnarkomHi Roboticking.
03:24.07Robotickinghello
03:24.09SovnarkomWelcome back.
03:25.08Robotickingthank you
03:25.23RobotickingHave you progressed in planning your fiction Sovnarkom?
03:25.49SovnarkomNot yet.
03:25.52SovnarkomStill formulating ideas.
03:25.55SovnarkomAnd stuff.
03:26.08Robotickingalright
03:32.45SovnarkomI'm looking at Star Trek stuff.
03:32.49SovnarkomThe Breen are interesting.
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03:54.06Robotickingremember not to plagiarize if you use th concept but add your own story and change them
03:54.14Robotickingi must be going, farewell
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09:05.29GhelaeHello.
09:05.46HachimanHai
09:08.00Liquid_InkHello
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12:14.24Wormy_hi
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12:20.00HachimanHai
12:20.18Wormy_hello
12:20.27HachimanWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMxz4cMKuc and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDOiX9m5hB8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr5hjRbqH_o
12:20.47Wormy_awayI will watch them when I return!
12:21.30Hachiman"Davros, you cunt!"
12:21.47OluapPlayerhi
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12:23.04Hachiman"Daleks be warned, you have declared war upon the Cybermen." "This is not war, this is cyber-bullying!"
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13:03.11RobotickingHachi
13:08.53HachimanYes?
13:09.24Gaseous_InkHachi
13:09.27Gaseous_InkI am your father
13:11.02HachimanWell you're a shite dad then because I'm paternally disowned
13:18.09Technobliteratorhttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/11062362_991755014233230_4183050627566340066_n.jpg?oh=5af60019f23eda9d7f4c18bb1a4b5639&oe=56932873
13:19.41Gaseous_InkXD
13:21.29Robotickingclaps at Ink's disgrace
13:22.21Gaseous_InkI swear, I paid for it out my own unjustifiably enormous salary.
13:22.25Gaseous_Ink*out of
13:24.07Robotickingand who paid for that salary?
13:24.39Gaseous_Ink...
13:24.46Gaseous_InkThe Emperor.
13:25.23Wormy_Hachiman:  "I love your handlebars"
13:26.14Robotickingand where did the emperor get his money
13:26.48Gaseous_InkFrom the treasury.
13:28.24HachimanFrom the taxpayers
13:29.25Robotickingand how did the taxpayers feel as they gave away their life savings?
13:30.25GhelJedi mind trick deals with that.
13:31.02Gaseous_InkTechnically speaking, the Death Star was built from slave labour, which requires no money.
13:32.19GhelDoes that include all of the infrastructure required? The materials, the construction of starships that carry the materials, the starship fuel, the designs for the Death Star and all of the starships...?
13:33.22Gaseous_InkYep. Mined by slaves, refined by slaves, put together by slaves.
13:33.42Robotickingwhat about the specialist required to train the slaves?
13:33.48GhelPiloted by slaves? Guns controlled by the slaves?
13:34.30Robotickingthat is a bad idea gAS
13:34.31Gaseous_Ink...
13:34.34GhelNot to mention the continued operation of the Death Star after completion.
13:34.34Gaseous_InkAutomation.
13:34.34RobotickingGas*
13:34.46Gaseous_InkAutomation, bru.
13:35.48GhelI'd point out that the film clearly shows otherwise, but naturally you'll claim that it's all rebel propaganda.
13:36.17GhelAll specifically put together to make it seem entirely implausible that the whole thing could have been achieved purely by slaves and automation.
13:36.23GhelWhich is entirely in the rebels' interest.
13:39.09Gaseous_InkRemember, Lord Vader is a right-wing leader. In his mind anything's possible.
13:40.21GhelThis is why you should just blame everything on Jedi mind tricks. It makes life so much easier.
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13:43.42Robotickingthat is true
13:43.45HachimanWormy_: "Do you have any idea how hot the Nightmare Child was? I always wanted a tan but that was ridiculous. Did I have any sunblock? Did I bollocks. I'm still getting over the sunburn."
13:43.46Robotickinglets discuss
13:44.02Robotickinghow effective the death star is
13:44.58Robotickingas i know they have in universe the star killer
13:45.14Robotickingwhich destroys solar systems via supernovae
13:45.30Wormy_best fanfic ever http://doctorwhofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_vs_Star_Wars
13:45.46HachimanWhy destroy suns and solar systems and whatnot when you can simply subjugate them and gather their resources
13:45.48Wormy_Hachi:  lol
13:46.08Wormy_The GE's vGalaxy Gun and Sun Crusher were both superior to the Death Starsa
13:49.44Wormy_Hachiman:  These remind of AdmiralGrin's vids https://youtu.be/2xYXYDx0Z0g?t=1m2s
13:52.47Hachiman"I can't see anything, my eye won't turn on-- Oh, there we go."
13:52.59HachimanImagine if Daleks were this humorous in the series hur
13:53.18Wormy_"I look forward to returning to my duties aboard the Enterprise.  But...  I WILL NOT BE SEEN LURCHING THROUGH CORRIDORS LIKE SOME HALF KLINGON MACHINE"
13:55.33HachimanI mean I get the fact that they are largely autonomous, hate-driven, highly paranoid hi-tech space Nazis but there should have been times where they were played for laughs
13:55.53HachimanThey are still shown to have emotions and personalities
13:57.20Wormy_To my knowledge, the Daleks are becoming increasingly impure in order to survive
13:57.50Wormy_Which is ironic
13:57.53HachimanAye
13:58.44HachimanWe have seen Daleks undergo hybridization - both physiologically and psychologically - with humans multiple times for example
14:01.12Wormy_Hachi:  I love crazy Worf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH1FK9OADVI
14:03.41Wormy_Lol he used Jonathan Frakes voice from Beyond Belief
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14:08.53OluapPlayerThis is a torture
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14:19.01dino82_hello all
14:20.04GhelHello.
14:23.20Robotickinghello
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14:33.23HachimanHai
14:38.20Robotickinghey Iperios
14:38.23RobotickingIMperios*
14:43.39dino82_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:TertiusEnterprise01.png
14:44.03dino82_does the ship look damaged enough?
14:45.21HachimanI would say so
14:49.48dino82_Great
14:49.52dino82_How is allz doing here on the irc?
14:51.29RobotickingGood, how are you?
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14:57.00dino82_Great to hear! Me as well!
15:03.04RobotickingExcellent, up to anything lately in the fiction universe?
15:03.54dino82_working on the Tertius Bellum
15:03.59dino82_a new chapte rinthe Galaxies at War
15:04.00dino82_you?
15:04.14dino82_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Prologue
15:04.49Robotickingactually the same, a subplot for Teritus Bellum
15:05.15Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/4l7C6Fj
15:05.51RobotickingInspiring image wormy
15:05.59dino82_Nice!
15:06.24dino82_@Roboticking: Looking forward to it :D
15:06.57RobotickingYea, the bisistar will be involved :D (Cyrannus is working on it with me, so thats how their being invloved)
15:09.37dino82_nice, the bisistar!
15:10.40Robotickingyup, so this will turn out to be interesting :P
15:21.57dino82_neat
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15:50.15GhelHello.
15:50.37RobotickingCyrannian!
15:50.42RobotickingHello!
15:50.51CyrannianHi
15:59.01Wormy_awayHi
16:16.01Wormy_~summon Spu
16:16.04infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Spu's coordinates
16:17.26dino82_hello
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16:23.14Wormy_dawww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH8bkmm9XlY
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16:32.55Wormy_Xho, Hachiman:  Imagine John Cena vs. Koolaide
16:33.15XhoOHHHHHHHHHYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHJOHNCEEEEEEENAAAAAAAAAAA
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16:40.35Wormy__According to conspiracy theorists, and asteroid is coming
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16:41.37XhoGood, wipe out humanity and its meaninglessness
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16:42.27The_RandomnessHello
16:43.51GhelHello.
16:43.59Wormy__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZW8gev_TJs
16:44.19Wormy__Apparently we are all going to die tomorrow
16:44.50The_RandomnessKappa
16:46.55CyrannianThe apocalypse is sooo 2012.
16:47.30dino82_hahaha, not to mention the crisis that would occur in 2000
16:47.42Wormy__or 2011
16:48.05The_Randomness"The world is ending!" "Again?"
16:48.43CyrannianI remember the one in which the world was supposed to end on the 6th of June 2006 very well
16:49.40Cyrannian~seen OluapPlayer
16:49.42infobotoluapplayer <b16441fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.65.253> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 2h 40m 49s ago, saying: 'This is a torture'.
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17:07.48OluapPlayerI'd be less bothered if I just killed myself
17:08.06XhoThat's my life phrase
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17:08.43XhoOluapPlayer: "Remove at least one zero from all Fantasyverse dates."        I'm not adverse to that tbh
17:09.34OluapPlayerI'm trying to play The Sims 3 and it's a glitchfest that crashes my game
17:09.35OluapPlayerI blame u
17:09.47Wormy__So I'm looking at forums about what would win, Battleship Yamato or the Bismark.  All the people with bloody Anime profile pics say the Yamato could easily win
17:09.59Xhour a blame
17:10.10XhoSims 3 is pretty glitchy normally
17:10.22Cyrannian~slap OluapPlayer
17:10.22infobotACTION slaps OluapPlayer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
17:10.26OluapPlayershup
17:10.37OluapPlayerThree crashes on the family creator, another in buy mode
17:10.48OluapPlayerIf this fix I'm downloading doesn't work, I'll just give up
17:11.00HachimanWormy__: And you're surprised? :p
17:11.06XhoBut yeah I wouldn't mind scaling down the dates on most of the Fantasyverse fiction
17:11.11OluapPlayerstick dat emoticon up ur ainis
17:11.33CyrannianThe Sims 3 is probably my favourite Sims game, though all dat lag
17:11.40Wormy__Not really, I was expecting the weeaboo brigade to come.
17:11.45OluapPlayerYou're the one to blame then
17:11.47OluapPlayerstoopid waptor
17:11.47Charles_MurrayWormy__ Both Yamato and Bismark were obsolete by the time of the Second World War, anyway.
17:11.49XhoThe only thing I wouldn't change is the really old stuff like Thanksgiving or the Storm Drakes getting screwed
17:11.50HachimanOf course I do not know whether this refers to the actual battleships Bismarck and Yamato
17:11.53Wormy__Of course, they might be right but they don't state reasons why
17:11.55OluapPlayer~exterminate Cyrannian
17:11.55infobotACTION zaps Cyrannian with a low-budget lazer beam effect, then continues roving about every which way,  while shouting "exterminate! exterminate!" with a rasping staccato voice
17:12.09OluapPlayerAll the dates are obnoxiously large
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17:12.22OluapPlayerRemoving a zero from all of them would make them make actual sense
17:12.48XhoI wouldn't mind shifting back the Orichalcum Elves' ages back five thousand years or so
17:12.50HachimanI'm scaling the Lagosi down to having existed for 5,000 years rather than 15,000
17:13.00XhoOr maybe six or seven
17:13.20Xhoi.e. Septimus/Kalarah being more like 8,000 years old rather than 16,000
17:13.21OluapPlayerHave Thanksgiving happen 30,000 years ago, future dates lose a zero in a similar fashion except for New Age stuff
17:13.38XhoHm
17:13.45OluapPlayerHuge time gaps do nothing but make the planet strangely stagnant
17:14.05XhoI sort of want to keep it in a ridiculously long time span ago so I might just say prehistory rather than give an actual date
17:14.17XhoKeep it mythological and whatnot
17:14.32Wormy__According to this forum, people say it depends on the circumstances http://www.city-data.com/forum/history/1054628-bismarck-vs-yamato-ww2-battleships.html
17:14.33XhoAs for everything else I don't mind
17:15.03OluapPlayerGive it no date then, because there is really no reason for hundred thousand year old civilizations to not eventually evolve into modern/spacefaring societies
17:15.28XhoKinmo - but         we were interdimensional already
17:15.38Cyrannianhttp://vince-t.deviantart.com/art/Starship-Profile-Sovereign-Battlecruiser-457830239?q=favby%3ACyrannian%2F46642769&qo=83 - uumph I'll try and make this someday
17:15.59The_Randomnesstriangle
17:16.04HachimanFucking raptorgasm
17:16.20XhoAs for the Orichalcum Elves, 30,000 - 8,000 years ago might make more sense
17:16.31Charles_MurrayWormy_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ufc2hI4FM Sinking the Bismark
17:16.40XhoThough that's a fair bit of retconning
17:16.43OluapPlayerThat would mean Caligaduro got shoveled in the head at either 5,000 BNA rather than 15,000
17:16.57OluapPlayer5000 years is a lot of time for new civilizations to rise already
17:17.07OluapPlayer*at  5,000
17:17.16XhoCaligaduro - time dunt matter         ur all gon dai
17:17.34Xho30,000 - 5,000 then
17:17.34HachimanSo are we making Koldenwelt younger or
17:17.44XhoMost of it I guess
17:18.00OluapPlayerWe're making it not full of huge empty time gaps that make no sense
17:18.23XhoSo Longinus would be closer to...hm
17:18.26Wormy__Its funny how space opera takes so much inspiration for naval warfare already out of date by WW2
17:18.31Xho10,000 rather than 20,000
17:18.31Wormy__*from
17:18.35OluapPlayerEven with this change, most civilizations in the world will still be older than humanity
17:18.42OluapPlayerReal world humanity that is
17:19.09Cyrannianbrb dinner
17:19.11The_RandomnessWormy__: Yeah
17:19.29XhoSo that would actually make civilisations like the Orichalcum Elves and Sohet like the Sumerians
17:19.32Wormy__I guess they left a strong impression
17:19.43OluapPlayerThe Empire of Man probably doesn't need to adapt to this since they're already pretty young
17:20.21OluapPlayerThe Merovar Dynasty will get downgraded to 1,350 years old
17:21.03OluapPlayerWhich is honestly much more feasible
17:21.05HachimanYeah I wanted to make Khaepsha-ultan younger
17:21.28XhoThe Dalmiric Kingdom would be closer to 4,500 years old then concerning scale
17:21.36XhoShiarchon around 5,000 years old
17:21.48OluapPlayerStill this is still only a proposal. We'd need a community consensus, plus permission from Ghel and Imp
17:21.55Charles_MurrayWormy__ Well, the impression that naval warfare still works like that exists today. Same with aerial engagements. Dogfights stopped happening a long time ago, now fighters lob missiles at each other from far outside visual range.
17:22.06GhelI agree with it.
17:22.16HachimanIn that case, the Lagosi stuff should probably be around 2,000 - 1,000 years
17:22.21OluapPlayerThat's half of it done then
17:22.24GhelAs for community consensus, the community is mostly you three anyway.
17:22.29Charles_MurrayShips no longer see each other when they're fighting, either because they're firing ASM missiles at each other or, more likely, their fighters are doing it for them.
17:22.36HachimanThat makes me sad
17:22.38OluapPlayerIt's sad because it's true
17:22.45HachimanI wish there was more interest in the Fantasyverse
17:23.07Wormy__Charles:  Indeed
17:23.23Wormy__Metal Machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6npKLMK9fo
17:24.02GhelI might think of something else to bring into the fantasyverse, but until then I can always use Mala Aurorum if you ever want to set anything in the Archipelago.
17:24.14Hachimanbut she ded
17:24.21GhelYes.
17:24.56OluapPlayerHer vengeful ghost then
17:25.33GhelYeah, basically. Or there's the live version if we ever do any more work on the War for the Eye.
17:26.07Hachimandere needs 2 b scenes of mala aurorum bein provocativ
17:26.17OluapPlayerBut she has gross fish feet and a beak
17:26.25XhoPerhaps for the elder beings like the Colossi and ancient dragons they shouldn't have a definitive age
17:26.34XhoKind of removes the mystical element when they have ages
17:26.45XhoOld Colossi that is
17:27.02OluapPlayerThat's feasible
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17:27.16Hachiman>gross fish feet and a beak
17:27.31HachimanKalcedia is a fucking dragon
17:27.35OluapPlayerVixaatus will still be 25,000 years old since it was 250,000 before
17:27.46XhoKinmo - ur still young u kno
17:27.51OluapPlayerA human-like scalie you mean
17:28.03OluapPlayerVixaatus - sez the baby
17:28.09Xho[18:27] <Hachiman> Kalcedia is a fucking dragon          Interpret this in any way you so wish
17:28.21HachimanGoddammit
17:28.28OluapPlayerjej
17:28.39OluapPlayerIt's funny because it's still true
17:28.50XhoI kinda like the idea of Septimus and Kalarah being closer to 6,000 years old
17:29.02XhoRelates to them having more of a real-world ancient element
17:29.24Hachimaninb4 there's actually a hidden / forgotten magic school based around sex
17:29.41OluapPlayerHamoins - not forgotten at all
17:29.42XhoVultusk - certainly not forgotten here
17:29.52OluapPlayerMadii - stop dis
17:30.02XhoVultusk - im talkin bout u u walkin std
17:30.24GhelSex magic is a thing in real-world occultism. No reason for it to not exist on Koldenwelt too.
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17:30.38OluapPlayerLet's not go there
17:30.44OluapPlayerThat'd imply Colossi of Sex
17:30.44HachimanNo, let's
17:30.49Xhoinb4 Hachi makes it the largest fiction on the wiki
17:31.07XhoColossus of Sex -> Kalcedia
17:31.56Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12038300_2459075244139651_3293359342984771885_n.png?oh=b72f09f3ef45f355a53061e33562bb75&oe=5693BABC Dilophosaurus Pope
17:32.07OluapPlayerolol
17:33.07CyrannianI approve of his new look
17:33.18XhoWormy__: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12039429_1213351182013016_3875677968180799080_n.jpg?oh=0f5a3aefe1d5e9f2c83da54b5eaa8450&oe=565DDA0F
17:33.53OluapPlayerI saw these exact pics as a response to "when the government claims there are no aliens"
17:34.11XhoIt's the Why You Always Lying Guy
17:34.16Hachiman"why da fuq u ayy lmao'in"
17:34.30OluapPlayerI'm aware
17:34.36OluapPlayerhur
17:35.05OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/Hki87DC.webm
17:35.41Xhowat
17:35.53Cyranniansorcery!
17:36.06OluapPlayerThe Trump Gribade
17:36.09OluapPlayerBrigade even
17:36.51The_RandomnessThat's about what the GOP debates have been
17:37.06The_RandomnessMost of them seem to say the same stuff, except Trump is louder/more crass
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17:38.37OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://puu.sh/kptn9.gif
17:38.44Xho"M-16"
17:38.50Xhogoddammit journalists
17:38.56Technobliteratorhahahahaha
17:40.45OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/L0wpFCC.png
17:41.11OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: http://i.imgur.com/DufqgpB.png oh my fuck
17:42.05HachimanJesus
17:42.22Technobliteratorlmao
17:42.26OluapPlayerMistreated "Poison" Serpent
17:42.30OluapPlayerThat one rivals Pistol Puma
17:42.30Hachiman>Calcium Man
17:42.36HachimanWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
17:42.42OluapPlayerstop
17:46.21OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: https://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_nullr3ik9b1ssz1e3_480.mp4#_=_ beep beep
17:46.47Hachimanolol
17:47.28Technobliteratorwell fuck
17:51.53OluapPlayerhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/09/27/cdd72a205934959d.webm Cyrannian's childhood
17:52.28Cyranniand'aww
17:52.40CyrannianI want one
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17:57.32LuxorHello again
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17:58.06HachimanHello
17:58.42LuxorI'm going to rework URN's history (yup, again), but I need some info.
17:58.51Wormy__Xho:  That's me today
17:58.53LuxorFor example, what's the present year in FU.
17:59.34Tek0516Depends on who you ask
17:59.48The_RandomnessFU?
18:00.02Tek0516Official Xonexi canon is... 2802 still?
18:00.08Luxor*Fiction Universe.
18:00.21The_Randomnessah
18:01.05Tek0516I think a few users mentioned them jumping ahead recently?
18:01.45dino82_jumping ahead?
18:01.46Luxor*Or, could someone resend a link to the universal time counter for fiction universe? I can't remember the name, except that it was made with java.
18:02.22Tek0516It's mine but we're way behind that
18:02.41Tek0516Almost a decade behind I think
18:02.47LuxorOh. Shame.
18:02.58LuxorOkay, so let's say it's 280(3), right?
18:03.05Tek0516Roughly
18:03.22Tek0516Late 2802 at earliest I think
18:05.56Tek0516I know the Second Mirusian Coalition is ongoing, so at least April 2803 presently
18:06.22LuxorOkay, I'll stick to this.
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18:14.01LuxorHai
18:14.07SovnarkomHi.
18:18.51Robotickinghello
18:19.12CyrannianHi there
18:20.02dino82_hello
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18:21.34LuxorHai drom
18:21.41dromHello
18:25.47Robotickinghello
18:27.26Wormy__US man sets petrol pump alight over spider  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34374121
18:27.30Wormy__Living the meme
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18:28.11OluapPlayerHi Imp
18:28.30dromWormy__: We saw that last night
18:28.32Wormy__"The fate of the spider is unknown."
18:29.49dromdino82_: What if I request some vacant spots near the grox empire in the quadrant 82? He he he
18:29.59Luxor...then u get no
18:32.16dino82_vacant spots?
18:33.47dromPremission to colonize
18:40.21dino82_near Grox?
18:40.26dino82_Where did you have i mind?
18:40.42Luxor...mess. hur
18:41.14SovnarkomOh god, the Grox.
18:44.30dromdino82_: Perhaps between the two seemingly troublemakers, the Icolians and the Grox, above Sector 13 of Rambo Empire.
18:44.49dromAccording to Liquid_Ink's revamped map
18:51.49Robotickingis there a page that surmises the Fantasy Universe we have?
18:52.08RobotickingAs I have been noticing many people actually have a fiction there
18:53.36Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12039205_991755127566552_2735504385914670953_n.jpg?oh=359a7e55e5b0189977f96d71c86dbe94&oe=56A7D16F&__gda__=1452735583_5d16eeb54b485de651e66ec78a15599d
18:54.08Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe This, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt and this
18:54.56SovnarkomLol Hachiman.
18:55.25Robotickingthanks
18:58.43HachimanImpyDroid Ghel: I wonder if there are any equivalents of cola / soda in the Fantasyverse, or if there were any equivalents for fizzy drinks in like say pre-industrial times and such
19:00.52Ghelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_drink#History - while it's not the same as dissolving CO2 into cola at high pressure, you can get some of the way there with pre-industrial tech.
19:02.16GhelI was just going to say it can't be done without the pressurisation, but I thought I'd check first in case I was wrong.
19:02.52HachimanSo basically
19:03.06HachimanMost nations in the Fantasyverse would not have access to soft drinks without the usage of magic hur
19:03.44GhelCertainly nothing quite like what we're used to.
19:05.21GhelBut even with dropping a zero off all the BNA years, there will have been enough time for all of the chemistry (or maybe alchemy) required to have been developed. So they'll just have flat (and probably warm) cola instead.
19:06.35HachimanKinda ew
19:07.06GhelThat's how it started on Earth.
19:07.57GhelAlthough they also had cocaine and sometimes alcohol mixed into it.
19:10.52HachimanMakes sense I suppose
19:11.02HachimanCannot complain about the flavour when you're drunk and high
19:14.34Wormy__You might
19:22.03Wormy__Drunk, I got into an argument about whether a rotating singularity forms a ring or torus last night.
19:22.42Wormy__Pretty sure its a ring, since a singularity is 0 dimensional in point form
19:22.48HachimanDid you argue that with Ghel?
19:23.09Wormy__No, in real life
19:23.11GhelA ring is 2D, so it wouldn't be that either. It would be a circle.
19:23.23GhelIf we're going by strict geometric definitions.
19:23.32Wormy__We had disagreements about Interstellar
19:25.52Ghelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ring_singularity
19:26.22Ghel"a ring with zero thickness but non-zero radius"
19:26.23Wormy__"Since a point cannot support rotation or angular momentum in classical physics (general relativity being a classical theory), the minimal shape of the singularity that can support these properties is instead a ring with zero thickness but non-zero radius"
19:26.24Ghelaka a circle
19:27.55GhelOne could argue that in real life, not exactly described by general relativity, the centre of the black hole is a torus, but we don't know the truth about that yet. In classical GR, it's one-dimensional.
19:28.35CyrannianBack
19:29.05Ghel~give Cyrannian a cookie
19:29.05infobotACTION gives Cyrannian a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up.
19:29.12Wormy__Well, what happened was that I was trying to explain how a spinning supermassive black hole may support the idea of safely falling through the event horizon for an observer and having a tesseract construction
19:29.33Wormy__After this, my friend tried to one-up me by saying it can not be a ring, but a torus
19:30.16Wormy__Now I know its actually a circle, but I was arguing from the right premise of it being a point in rotating spacetime
19:30.39Cyrannian~give Ghel a pie
19:30.39infobotACTION gives Ghel a home-baked apple pie with whipped cream on top
19:31.48SovnarkomSo, how is Fiction Universe doing?
19:32.07SovnarkomAnyone trying to start some crazy stuff?
19:32.23Wormy__He didn't like it that I called Interstellar a hard sf film.  It may not be a diamond hard SF film, but its plausibly hard in the bounds of tentative and speculative theories, and much harder than 90% of SF film today so is a positive example of SF films becoming harder again
19:32.24dromNot yet
19:32.56dromWe do find the limits quite restrictive, but we got plenty of space left
19:33.33dromIn case you have trouble, you can always fast foward with hunred for thousand years as a future timeline fiction
19:33.44dromhundred or*
19:34.07GhelWormy__: Is he familiar with the Mohs scale of sci-fi hardness? Dividing sci-fi into just "hard" and "soft" is just as restrictive as doing the same thing to minerals.
19:34.17dromWormy__: http://i.imgur.com/qrJExiI.webm
19:35.02Wormy__Probably not, I tried to explain that I meant it was plausibly hard.  But just trying doing that when you have had lots of cider and beer.
19:35.42Wormy__And it wasn't an aggressive argument, just for the record
19:36.45GhelAnd here I was imagining you attacking each other with broken bottles.
19:37.44Wormy__That would be a silly thing to do over whether general relativity's description of spacetime geometry inside black holes is correct
19:37.45ImpyDroidHachiman: Hm
19:39.03ImpyDroidAbout cola the closest pre-industrial thing I can think of is sangria
19:39.12GhelYou're right. You would have been throwing bar stools at each other instead.
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19:39.49ImpyDroidActually wait
19:39.55ImpyDroidSangria is not sparkling
19:40.02Robotickingon the topic of interstellar, how many days would you age per second on Miller's planet
19:40.04Wormy__Ghel:  We actually had a flower fight
19:40.18ImpyDroidStill since it was not very strong it was drank widely
19:40.56Wormy__Ghel:  We found some flower heads and had a spinning duel with them, and my flower disintegrated first.
19:41.30GhelAnd obviously, this proved that the ring singularity inside a Kerr metric is actually toroidal.
19:41.52Wormy__Robot:  I haven't attempted to estimate, but I'm sure that info is out there,
19:42.16Wormy__Well spinning flowers are 3D, afterall
19:42.34Robotickingok, so Millers planet is 7 years an hour
19:42.34SovnarkomWhat would happen if the Mou'Cyran Accords were disbanded.
19:43.41Robotickingmeaning that every 15 minutes
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19:44.40Robotickingor so, approximately 1.75 years pass
19:46.46Robotickinghmm
19:49.09Robotickingso thats approximately 639 days over 15 minutes
19:50.20Robotickingthats 42.6 days every minute
19:50.29GhelSovnarkom: As far as I can see, it only makes sense for the MCA to be disbanded if it were no longer needed, in which case the answer is "nothing much". It's not like all of its constituent empires are going to wake up one morning and find that their relationships with each other have suddenly disappeared overnight.
19:51.04Sovnarkom@Ghel I see what you mean.
19:51.13SovnarkomI did that completely wrong.
19:51.14Sovnarkom_-_
19:51.14GhelIf you can come up with a different situation for how it was disbanded, then things might be different.
19:51.22OluapPlayerHachiman Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrpaGsT_cuI
19:51.56dromWell you could do a future timeline concurrence
19:52.04HachimanOh boy
19:52.06XhoHello Kitty guitar and everything
19:52.21Robotickingghel
19:52.30OluapPlayerJUST DO IT
19:52.34RobotickingAm i correct in my calculations?
19:52.34XhoDO IT
19:52.47HachimanDON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS
19:53.12Xho"Student Commutes From Poland To Uni In London Because It Works Out Cheaper"
19:53.19XhoThis is why living in London is impossible
19:53.22Ghel7 years per hour, 15 minutes = 0.25 hours -> 7/4 = 1.25 years.
19:53.44Ghel1.75*
19:53.56Ghel~1.75*365.25
19:53.56infobot639.1875
19:54.09GhelSo yes, just over 639 days.
19:54.35Robotickingwell, I would not want to live on millers planet
19:54.56The_RandomnessI did it the following way: 7 years per hour = 7 years * 1/60 years/minute * 365 days/year -> approximately 42.6 days/minute
19:55.09Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12039562_1781102551912796_4026164510800631584_n.jpg?oh=fa308effc1879e30f814e7a5f4a602e7&oe=569BF2B7
19:55.14GhelAnd 7 years per hour = 7 (years per hour) * (365.25 days per year) / (60 minutes per hour) = yes you're right.
19:55.15Roboticking(I rounded up for the sake of being even and approximating)
19:55.46GhelRounding also makes sense because I doubt it's 7 years per hour down to the second.
19:56.01The_Randomnessyear
19:56.04The_Randomness*yeah
19:56.18Robotickingand due to the leap year as well
19:56.29GhelThat's where the .25 comes in.
19:56.44Ghel~7*365.25/60
19:56.44infobot42.6125
19:57.43Robotickingand the leap year is effectively accounted for
19:58.45dino82_@drom: fine, you can also place it betweeen the two rambo sectors if you want
19:59.15dino82_Bye bye, see ya all next time
19:59.18dromdino82_: Sweet. I'll make it a real thing later this week
19:59.20dromBye bye!
20:00.22Wormy__Xho, Ghel, Hachiman, drom, dino82_, Cyrannian, Technobliterator:  Just a reminder:  Look out for the Super Blood Moon tonight
20:00.48dromGot more important stuff to do
20:00.50Wormy__1:10 AM
20:01.02Robotickingthat is today?
20:01.07XhoWhy would I be awake at 1:10 on a weekday tho
20:01.09HachimanSuper Blood Moon sounds like an anime attack
20:01.15OluapPlayer>sky is covered in storm clouds
20:01.15Robotickingi thought it was yesterday!
20:01.19OluapPlayerThanks Jesus
20:01.20Wormy__For UK residents anyway at that timew
20:01.32Xho"No problem, my son" - Jesus
20:01.37HachimanI think there are clouds over Sussex as well
20:01.46HachimanCannot really tell because it is dark
20:01.46XhoThe moon is pretty white at the moment
20:02.07Wormy__The Moon is really a giant space dragon rolled up into a ball
20:02.26Wormy__Where the blood comes from, is anyone's guess.
20:02.29XhoPuffzilla
20:02.55HachimanFunny because in the world of ASOIAF, dragons are said to have come from a second moon which orbited the world until the dragons within broke free
20:03.11HachimanAccording to Dothraki legend, anyway
20:03.20OluapPlayerASOIAF
20:03.24OluapPlayerWhat in fuq's name
20:03.33HachimanA Song of Ice and Fire
20:03.35Wormy__Yes, I get it from looking at Pluto.  It has scales and a tail
20:03.36Hachimanaka Game of Thrones
20:03.46Wormy__But I understood the reference
20:03.47OluapPlayerew
20:04.10Hachimanonly ew cus u dunt hav taste
20:04.27Wormy__The original Iron Man story has a giant space dragon
20:05.26XhoDoes Impy know about our Fantasyverse proposal
20:05.41OluapPlayerHe has not said anything all day
20:05.47OluapPlayerSo no, he's probably not even here
20:06.06XhoAnd I only noticed he was actually present on the IRC
20:06.30GhelHe did comment on Hachi's idea of fantasyverse soft drinks.
20:06.50GhelPresumably we haven't told him about the more significant proposal.
20:07.22XhoI must've missed that one
20:08.02XhoI think I might retcon the appearance of the Orichalcum Elves
20:08.06Wormy__ImpyDroid:  Wake up
20:08.36XhoGive them a more human-esque appearance rather than metallic gold skin
20:08.42dromWormy__ Ghel: You can't have enough of this http://i.imgur.com/RQUP49v.gif
20:09.13Wormy__yes
20:09.48HachimanI feel the fact they look like golden Greek statues suits then
20:09.51Hachimanthem even
20:09.58XhoHm
20:09.59XhoAlrght
20:10.01XhoAlright*
20:10.09XhoI wasn't very intent on the idea
20:10.32ImpyDroidQUI SE RISQUE ME CRIER
20:10.32HachimanElves are not supposed to look humanlike, that is kinda the point of elves hur
20:10.41ImpyDroidANYWAY what is going on
20:10.57HachimanImpyDroid: We're making stuff younger in regards to the ages of Koldenwelt
20:11.12HachimanSo we get rid of large gaps of empty blank spaces of time
20:11.17XhoIn other words we're condensing 95% of the dates from 300,000 years to 30,000 years
20:11.17ImpyDroidGreat idea
20:11.32XhoThe other 5% won't have a date
20:11.33ImpyDroidI suggested it in regards to the Fictionverse once hur
20:11.47ImpyDroidWhere would the "Precursor Age" fall
20:11.48Wormy__how rats come up the toilet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t2VPBF6Kp4
20:12.06Xho30,000 - 25,000 BNA I guess
20:12.10OluapPlayerIt was my idea baaaaaaa
20:12.14OluapPlayerBasically, remove a zero from all dates except New Age
20:12.20XhoIt was Oluap's idea yeah
20:12.22Xhogood oluap
20:12.24OluapPlayerOr anything that's already young enough to work, like the Empire of Mann
20:12.27Xhopats OluapPlayer's head
20:13.12XhoI dunno we'll work out the epochs later
20:13.17Xhoepochs I like that word
20:13.27ImpyDroid>Empire of Mann
20:14.09ImpyDroidThe hats shall prevail
20:14.10OluapPlayerIf you mean the ages
20:14.11GhelAre we also just moving the end of the Adamantine Age from 15,000 to 5,000 BNA?
20:14.15OluapPlayerJust remove a zero from them hur
20:14.21OluapPlayerYes
20:14.23XhoSo now Caligaduro's defeat and all coincident dates happened 5,000 years ago rather than 15,000 years ago
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20:14.37Xhobah ghelae
20:14.37OluapPlayerYes, I suggested that hours ago
20:14.38ImpyDroidThat works
20:15.11ImpyDroidHachiman: About soft drinks you forget sparkling wine
20:15.27Hachiman>soft drinks      >wine
20:15.42ImpyDroidSangria
20:15.49XhoMeh I might as well start with it now
20:15.58ImpyDroidSangria for example is very mild and drunk by children as well
20:17.13XhoHm this does cause a bit of a conflict with the length of the Orichalcum Elf reigns
20:17.22dromGhel: Got an idea why is FTL and hyper-drive travel is an exception in OA's universe project?
20:17.42GhelAdamantine Age ending at 5000 BNA isn't consistent with removing a zero from the post-Prehistoric dates, because then e.g. Orichalcum Age starts in 4000 BNA.
20:17.57Gheldrom: An exception to what?
20:18.02Xhodur
20:18.08ImpyDroidCertain dates should probably left vague
20:18.12ImpyDroidLike the Phoenix age
20:18.29dromGhel: FTL and hyperdrive as means of travel in Orion's Arm
20:18.35XhoYeah we suggested that the Colossi and similar sorts are left without age or dates to them
20:18.39XhoIf they want to
20:18.57GhelDo you mean, why doesn't FTL exist in Orion's Arm? Basically because it doesn't exist in real-world physics.
20:19.08HachimanOld Colossi that is
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20:19.21HachimanAlso sex magic is confirmed a new canon school of magic
20:19.24ImpyDroidWould chaining Cali fit that though
20:19.36HachimanKalcedia is gonna be the Old Colossi of Sex
20:19.46GhelSomewhat speculatively you can have wormholes and warp drives. Both of those do exist in Orion's Arm, but warp drives don't work at FTL speeds (again based on real-world results).
20:19.47ImpyDroidKalisearan - FUCK YOU
20:19.53ImpyDroidKalisearan - LITERALLY
20:20.03dromGhel: I see, thanks
20:20.20HachimanThat reminds me
20:20.21ImpyDroidWe could put the original chaining of Cali to an ambiguous age
20:20.32HachimanKalisearan needs to bear Alfgund a kid hur
20:20.41XhoWell that would make most of the Orichalcum Elf chronology ambiguous also
20:20.53ImpyDroidGerman Shakespearean catboy
20:21.06XhoAnd in turn make the Shiarchon formation chronologically illogical and everything built around that
20:21.06OluapPlayerI turn around for 5 minutes and a Chaosphere Simulacrum is now Alfgund's wife
20:21.24HachimanAlfgund and Kalisearan have fucked
20:21.30XhoKalisearan not Kaicaiusarin hur
20:21.36OluapPlayerCaligaduro's defeat marks the beginning of the Old Age
20:21.42OluapPlayerSo no, it can't be ambiguous
20:21.46OluapPlayerIt happened at 5,000 BNA
20:21.48ImpyDroidRight
20:21.52dromGhel: According to a FAQ page in their website, FTL travel would also violate "casuality"
20:22.18GhelYes, causality being the principle that causes always precede their effects.
20:22.24OluapPlayerbrb
20:22.55Hachimaninb4 Alfgund called the child Carl after Carlini
20:23.13ImpyDroidJavina - MINE wait is that a boy
20:23.32GhelIn special relativity, we have relativity of simultaneity: different observers travelling at different speeds to not always agree on the ordering of events, i.e. "before" and "after" depend on perspective just like "left", "right", "forwards" etc. depend on which way you're facing.
20:23.39Gheldo not always agree*
20:23.46OluapPlayer>Carl
20:23.59dromHm. This is interesting http://www.galaxiki.org/
20:24.04OluapPlayerEEEEEY ELF MAN, MY INQUISITION STUFF IS NONE OF YA FRIKIN' BUSINESS
20:24.12GhelAnd it's easy to arrange a sequence of FTL jumps to take advantage of this and go backwards in time.
20:24.28HachimanFunny because Carl is even a German name
20:24.45HachimanIt would not be deemed an odd name in Mannazia hur
20:24.54Wormy_Also, violations of causality may not occur if there are many quantum parallel universes.
20:25.21GhelWith direct FTL travel, yes they would.
20:25.35GhelProbably.
20:26.04Wormy_How so?
20:26.25GhelBut then when you bring quantum mechanics into it, said FTL travel is impossible anyway (the problems with tachyons etc).
20:26.51GhelErm, now I have to explain what I mean by "direct FTL travel".
20:27.00The_RandomnessI was about to ask that
20:27.26Wormy_Yes, I'm thinking still in terms of tipler cylinders, wormholes and so on.
20:27.39dromvelocity, written as v, has to be smaller than the speed of light, as c. So the statement of casuality when it comes to wrap-travel is: v < c
20:28.05dromif v >= c, then it violates the law of casuality
20:28.08GhelWormy_: Yeah; you've basically got the idea.
20:28.19GhelAlso, another point is that each FTL trip is, in the reference frame that the observer started in, forwards in time.
20:28.55dromI wonder how teleportation has always have worked
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20:29.48Gheldrom: You can perform an FTL journey without violating causality.
20:30.05GhelBut if FTL travel is possible, then FTL journeys that do violate causality are also possible.
20:30.11CyrannianIs anyone here on Xbox Live?
20:30.15GhelUnless you add in arbitrary restrictions like we have inthe SporeWikiverse.
20:30.19Ghelin the*
20:30.24dromYeah, but besides using wormholes?
20:30.25Wormy_Because it was shown that attempts to violate causality with closed timelike curves would actually result in travelling to different instances of the quantum multiverse (note, it does cause branching in the old sense of the word, there is no "branches" that are constructed, its all determined from a spacetime point of view)
20:30.39Wormy_For Many Worlds interpretation
20:30.53Wormy_(it does not cause
20:31.04dromCyrannian: I do, but I don't play Xbox anymore
20:31.53GhelWormholes have a less arbitrary restriction: since you need at least two FTL jumps to go unambiguously backwards in time, you just need wormholes to self-destruct if they're arranged in such a way as to make time travel possible.
20:31.54drom<PROTECTED>
20:32.21GhelThat, as with warp drives, is another result from real-world physics.
20:32.38Cyrannianrite
20:32.43GhelAlthough as with all quantum gravity things, it isn't certain how applicable it is to real life.
20:33.34dromI see. I can recall that NASA did an concept of a FTL wrap drive.
20:33.50XhoSo now the Castus Dynasty goes from 20,000 BNA - 5,000 BNA
20:34.54OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt#History I've updated the Age years
20:35.04OluapPlayerEverybody agrees with these?
20:40.26OluapPlayerI'll take the silence as a yes
20:40.31GhelI think it's a bit strange that the ages can be said to have lasted for exact multiples of 500 years... but generally, yes.
20:40.34HachimanYeah it looks good to me
20:41.06GhelIt's particularly the >100,000 BNA dates that are extreme, and those aren't mentioned in the section.
20:41.30OluapPlayerThe gaps between the Ages are more or less identical compared to the old version, minus an extra zero
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20:45.36JepardiHi
20:45.53GhelHello.
20:46.45GhelWe've changed the chronology of the fantasyverse, but I don't think it affects any of your fictions.
20:47.03Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Orichalcum_Elf_Imperium It was a pain in the face but it's now done
20:47.34OluapPlayerur a pain in the face
20:49.51XhoSo now Kalarah is 5,831 years old and Septimus is 5,834 years old
20:52.20XhoValentinianus' relative age has been altered though
20:52.28XhoGone down from 20,880 to 13,230
20:52.36XhoOr thereabouts
20:52.54OluapPlayerDawn Wardens existed 10,000 years ago instead of 20,000
20:53.06OluapPlayerno zeros lost #cheating
20:53.42XhoLonginus is now 9,789 instead of 19,789
20:54.33OluapPlayerLonginus - it is my birthday         i am now 9,78910
20:54.47XhoKalarah - well done u little shit
21:04.15XhoHow in the hell did you edit all of that so quickly
21:05.28OluapPlayervery fast mann
21:05.39OluapPlayerI open multiple edit tabs at the same time
21:09.06TechnobliteratorThat's not too fast
21:09.25OluapPlayerTangilaruka and Xitannoth are now young enough for some older elves or beastmen to be older than them
21:09.33Technobliteratoryou could make it faster by using ctrl+shift+e every time you edit instead of clicking
21:10.00XhoKalarah - dum poison burd more liek dum poison chick
21:10.10Technobliteratoralso, Oluap is our first user to 30k edits
21:10.11Technobliteratorgrats
21:10.18OluapPlayerhonk
21:10.53OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure other people have more than that though
21:11.11TechnobliteratorOn this wiki, no
21:11.12Wormy_I was so disappointed.  I wanted to reach 30K edits and thought I was winning.  And then I saw Oluap was so close I gave up.  I was the first to reach 10K and 20K however.
21:11.23Wormy_But well done, bravo, clap clap
21:11.39TechnobliteratorIn general, the most I've ever seen was 2.5 million edits
21:11.39OluapPlayerI thought you or Jo or Cyrannian had more than that
21:11.53TechnobliteratorI have 27k
21:11.58Xho2.5 million edits
21:12.01Wormy_We were ahead of you for a long time but you ninja'd us both recently
21:12.02XhoNo life or what
21:12.14TechnobliteratorWell, they do have no life, because they're a bot
21:12.14Technobliterator:P
21:12.16Wormy_I'm nearly at 30K
21:12.23XhoI'm still on 18K
21:12.27OluapPlayerThat's prejudice #botrights
21:12.34Cyrannianngh I'm on 29,208
21:12.44Wormy_Abot with a life wouldn't want to do that many edits.
21:12.55Cyrannianaccursed oluap
21:12.55TechnobliteratorI think the highest user I ever saw on Wikia was about 250,000, so
21:13.11OluapPlayerhaw haw
21:13.17TechnobliteratorI'm sure some Wikipedia users have millions
21:14.03TechnobliteratorReally, if we add Debug Squid Bot's editcount to mine, I have the highest count
21:14.04Technobliterator8D
21:14.20OluapPlayerGood thing you are not Debug Squid Bot
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21:14.50Wormy_1Koavf1,485,198
21:15.08Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits#5001.E2.80.9310000
21:16.50Wormy_We will see who will take the prize of 50k
21:17.00XhoIt will be
21:17.00CyrannianAnd thus the race begins
21:17.01XhoNot me
21:17.17XhoBy the time everyone reaches 40,000 I'll probably be around 22,000
21:17.17OluapPlayerI'm winning
21:17.30OluapPlayerayy to the lmao
21:17.40Wormy_I have a lot of pages to edit and fiction to write though
21:17.44GhelI'm currently on 11,030.
21:17.56Wormy_I might catch you up
21:18.30SovnarkomI need to make an Intergalactic Warsaw Pact to counter the Mou'Cyran Accords.
21:18.37Sovnarkom;)
21:18.40Wormy_if we go by quality edits though, I'm not very high
21:18.49GhelAlthough 1535 of them are in the deleted blog namespaces: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Editcount/Ghelæ
21:18.58TechnobliteratorWhat do you mean by quality of edits? :o
21:19.12Wormy_most are fiction, blog or correctinf various errors I often leave behind.
21:19.13CyrannianSovnarkom:  The CyraEmp would be very pleased
21:19.38Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Editcount/Wormulon - 5.2% in mainspace.
21:20.08TechnobliteratorPfft
21:20.14GhelCompare that to, say, Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Editcount/Xho
21:20.23TechnobliteratorMy mainspace count is low, but I don't  care because my templatespace count is my third highest
21:20.25Cyrannianjebus 5,129 of my edits are files
21:20.26Xho0.21
21:20.27Ghel0.21% in mainspace. 38 in total.
21:20.29XhoHAIL SATAN
21:20.40TechnobliteratorAnd because no one edits the mainspace anyway
21:22.27Xho21 tho
21:22.32XhoSeriously what are the odds
21:22.37Wormy_Techno probably has the highest of all wikis
21:22.38XhoWell 0.21% apparently
21:22.49Wormy_55,239
21:22.56TechnobliteratorAcross Wikia?
21:22.59Wormy_yeah
21:23.08TechnobliteratorYup
21:24.10Wormy_Mine is 30,719, so I'm third of total
21:24.12OluapPlayerI believe I'm done with my updates
21:24.30Cyrannianget to titanpad
21:24.42XhoI gave up with the updates hur
21:24.44Cyrannianhttps://www.facebook.com/thisisiradio/videos/978949982166078/ - Accurate
21:24.58XhoI'm currently preoccupied with the urge of hunger
21:25.23SovnarkomSo, what are the big fictions happening?
21:25.30TechnobliteratorI would like to see how many log changes people have
21:25.38SovnarkomAre there acts of espianoge, war, death, destruction galore?
21:25.41Sovnarkom.-.
21:25.43XhoI should really move on Eschaton
21:25.46RobotickingSov
21:26.09SovnarkomI'm drunk.
21:26.17dromHm ~38% of my edits are done User namespace
21:26.35Cyrannianhttps://www.facebook.com/TehLurdOfTehReingsOfficial/videos/634895156652439/ - Who saw this coming
21:26.45OluapPlayerYou should move on Kicathian Dissection
21:26.57GhelSovnarkom: You've just missed the http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars
21:27.00XhoCyrannian: terrible
21:27.17Wormy_Sovar:  Attero-Dominatus, DCP-Vermulan War, Great Xonexian Schism, New Cyrandia Wars, Project Exodus
21:27.19SovnarkomOh.
21:27.21Sovnarkom:c
21:27.24GhelI say "just"; it was probably over a month ago and I just lose track of time on the wiki.
21:27.36OluapPlayer~kick Cyrannian
21:27.36infobotACTION kicks Cyrannian
21:27.44OluapPlayerTo titanpad with you
21:27.48GhelGreat Xonexian Schism is just ongoing. Project Exodus was a fairly short fiction that was finished yesterday.
21:27.52Xhotoitonpod
21:28.19GhelThen dino's started a new post-NCW thing but I can't remember the name.
21:28.25Wormy_Attero Dominatus is awaiting the returm of GD12 from breakfast
21:28.44SovnarkomJust like to say thank you for the person who deleted my horrible fiction page.
21:28.47SovnarkomI'm going to make a new one
21:28.47CyrannianTertius Bellum, which I keep calling Tertium Malus for some reason
21:28.50SovnarkomThat is actually better.
21:28.53Sovnarkom;)
21:28.54Wormy_And the DCP-Vermie war is awaiting Liquid_Ink's section
21:29.11Wormy_who is a writer
21:29.21Wormy_The thing about writers
21:29.21XhoThe lack of declension in that phrase though
21:29.24XhoImpy would go mad
21:29.30Wormy_They don't write very often
21:29.38GhelThen there's also The Halcyon Scheme, which is awaiting Cyr, Random and I to actually work on it.
21:30.10GhelWhich isn't going to be tonight because I'll be in uni for 9am tomorrow so I'm not staying up for much longer.
21:30.11Wormy_However, I can't exactly blame aneyone.  I think everyone is waiting for me to add to GXS
21:30.29TechnobliteratorI'm just waiting to know what to do in GXS
21:30.48GhelThen Jo's working on remaking all her old Ottzelloan wars.
21:30.50Wormy_We'll have to invite you to Katar and we can discuss plots
21:30.59TechnobliteratorAh, yes
21:31.05Wormy_#katar
21:31.15GhelAnd she's also forgetting to delete loads of unused images.
21:31.16TechnobliteratorI should be able to get out another First Ottzello Galactic War update tonight
21:31.24Technobliterator...I should also do that
21:31.26Technobliterator:            |
21:31.38OluapPlayertop dumba
21:31.41GhelWhich reminds me, there are unused images that don't appear in Special:UnusedFiles because, when they have a licensing template, that tags them as appearing on their own file page.
21:32.16TechnobliteratorThat is...odd
21:32.24TechnobliteratorI've never seen that happen before
21:32.46GhelI think that's because of they have a link like "[[Media:{{{PAGENAME}}}|This file]]" on them.
21:33.42GhelMost recent example is [[File:Cell Stage.jpg]] uploaded this morning.
21:33.48TechnobliteratorOh, right
21:33.53TechnobliteratorWell, the templates shouldn't be doing that
21:33.53Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Cell_Stage.jpg
21:34.31Technobliteratorremoved
21:34.49GhelIs there any need for the links in the licensing templates? I think if we get rid of the links the problem will also go.
21:35.08GhelAlso, that image wasn't actually an unused file, just an example of a file that somebody had actually bothered to put a template on.
21:35.15GhelThe user who uploaded it put it on their userpage.
21:35.43GhelOh, right; you meant you removed the link from the template.
21:36.21TechnobliteratorMhm
21:36.30TechnobliteratorThere should be no links in the licensing templates at all
21:37.37SovnarkomScience fiction is the best way to criticize the current social norms, in my opinion.
21:37.49Wormy_Yes
21:38.55Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12032126_1654454468129716_8748632945732012162_n.jpg?oh=ec9e747c9c716d336a99a16c69538ac6&oe=569D84FB Oh Fallout
21:39.17Wormy_I personally like hard SF rather than social SF, but they are not mutually exclusive.  I like a non-anthropogenic element in such stories, and I think sci-fi is a good way of exploring that in the same way.
21:39.52GhelI believe that is now all self-links removed from licensing templates.
21:40.29Technobliteratorah
21:40.30Technobliteratorthanks ghel
21:42.34GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
21:43.15SovnarkomI personally like social science fiction.
21:43.22SovnarkomIt sort of shows where society can go and all.
21:48.22Wormy_The Culture novels are an example of hard social sci-fi
21:48.40Wormy_you have people who can voluntarily swap babies and genders pretty easily
21:49.36Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture
21:58.27Technobliteratorok, in future, I probably shouldn't delete and undelete a page for "just kidding"
21:58.53SovnarkomSoviet science fiction is cool.
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22:30.24SovnarkomI have a question about the symbolism in Fiction Universe.
22:31.17HachimanOh?
22:31.59SovnarkomSo, when I made my horrid page and tried to insert my symbol as a picture, it didn't work.
22:33.24Robotickinglink the page
22:33.30Robotickingit may be too big
22:33.47Robotickingor it could typos in writing it in.
22:34.01SovnarkomProbably too big.
22:34.07SovnarkomI did make large as hell symbols.
22:34.08Sovnarkom.-.
22:36.09Robotickingmind publishing the page and linking it or are you not done?
22:40.01Robotickingnevermind...
23:06.04CyrannianNight folks
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23:27.42SovnarkomHi.
23:30.03SovnarkomThe Fiction Universe is an interesting mix of Star Wars and Star Trek.
23:30.14SovnarkomBut with more influences of Star Trek, I see.
23:33.34Liquid_InkWhy stop there? There's Halo, Star Gate, Babylon Five, EVE Online, Mass Effect, HP Lovecraft, HG Wells, Isaac Asimov, Dead Space, Half Life, Warhammer 40k, Alien, X-COM, Freelancer, Doctor Who...
23:33.47Liquid_InkOh, and Spore. That's a thing.
23:34.56SovnarkomLol
23:34.57SovnarkomYea.
23:35.48Wormy_Got my telescope ready to see the super blood moon in a bit
23:53.15TekDroidoh yeah
23:54.18Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lunar_eclipse_from_moon_simulation-sep_28_2015.png
23:56.34Wormy_bbl

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