IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150919

01:10.26Tek0516J*c... I finally looked at the postmodernism feminist article from my course... The first sentence is traumatizing
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01:13.48TekPC"A lthough Andrea Dworkin is here analyzing Pauline Reage’s literary style in the Story of O, her realization that we can ‘‘double double unthink’’ the mind fetters by which patriarchal thought binds women is an especially useful one. For those of us who want to challenge and change female victimization, it is a compelling concept."
01:14.14DrodoEmpireugh
01:14.15DrodoEmpire>.<
01:14.18TekPC>.> I stopped reading before I even got that far.
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01:22.41DrodoEmpireHello
01:40.06DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/uO7WIvR.jpg
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01:48.42TekPCGoddamnit I hate that course and its assignments.
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03:01.10Wormy_awayreport finally done
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03:22.23TimeGaateHello?
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03:23.39TimeGaateHello
03:24.32DrodoEmpireHello
03:24.37DrodoEmpireWelcome to the chat
03:24.55DrodoEmpireIt a little late for most people right now, so a lot of people are off right now
03:25.03TimeGaateAh, i see
03:25.03DrodoEmpireIts usually fuller
03:25.46TimeGaateindeed, i remember when it was full of people, a few years back
03:26.00DrodoEmpireYou do?
03:26.24TimeGaateYes, though the name might seem unfamiliar,
03:26.34TimeGaateIm just an older form of robitcking45
03:26.39TimeGaateroboticking*
03:26.42DrodoEmpireAhh.
03:27.05DrodoEmpireAhh, I remember you.
03:27.13TimeGaateI thought it best to abandon the old account and start anew
03:27.17DrodoEmpireEhh
03:27.26DrodoEmpireJust a heads up that may be seen as sockpuppeting
03:27.35DrodoEmpireMight be better to have your username changed.
03:27.41DrodoEmpireOn your old account
03:27.58TimeGaateI should check that, give me a moment
03:31.03TimeGaateOk, I will be back in a moment, and roboticking45 will become timegaate to avoid confusion
03:31.34TimeGaatebut i do have evidence to prove it (the bastinules picture was created by cyrannus at my request so i could give an example of the species
03:32.36DrodoEmpireAlright, I believe you
03:36.05TimeGaateActually ill just use the roboticking45 account for the fiction and remove the bastniules one and edit the account to fit the new fiction ill write
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03:38.08Roboticking45There we go
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03:39.15DrodoEmpireHello
03:39.30Roboticking45Hello
03:40.03Roboticking45I am still able to delete fiction that i have made but have left sitting for a few years correct,
03:41.05DrodoEmpireYes, of course
03:42.01Roboticking45Ok
03:42.07Roboticking45Its time for e to get to work
03:42.09Roboticking45me*
03:42.19Roboticking45*infobot stab drodoempire
03:42.28Roboticking45what are the command for infobot again>
03:42.29DrodoEmpireUse ~
03:42.30Roboticking45?*
03:42.33Roboticking45ah
03:42.50Roboticking45~infobot vaporize drodoempire
03:42.51infobottosses drodoempire into the Large Hadron Collider and flips the switch
03:43.05Roboticking45well, somethings never get old do they?
03:43.47Roboticking45And also, what tier do you suggest I begin with?
03:46.32DrodoEmpire3 or 4.
03:46.47DrodoEmpireKeep in mind a *lot* has happened since you left.
03:46.50DrodoEmpireA *lot*.
03:47.07DrodoEmpireI'd suggest talking to Charles Murray and others to get updated
03:49.08Roboticking45I realize this and thank you for informing me of whom is best to speak wtih
03:49.47Roboticking45I plan on settling in the Andromeda Galaxy, which to my knowledge is an ope galaxy correct?
03:50.01DrodoEmpireYeah
03:50.53Roboticking45open*
03:51.07Roboticking45good
03:52.39Roboticking45would you mind giving me a base layout of the events following my departure?
03:52.53Roboticking45nothing too detailed, just major and vital changes
04:01.28DrodoEmpireEhh, alright
04:01.53Roboticking45if it is too much to go on about, i dont mind asking Charles, i dont want to trouble you
04:02.15DrodoEmpireWell basically its about 2811, but most people are still doing events for 2803-2804
04:02.28Roboticking45ah i see
04:03.37DrodoEmpireIn the 2790's, the human nation of France rose to international prominance
04:04.08DrodoEmpireThey very rapidly built a massive empire and were regarded as a gigaquadrantic power. Their power however did not go unchallenged
04:05.00DrodoEmpireA series of diplomatic crises would eventually result in three power blocs forming; The Civilization (which consists of the DCP and a few other nations, which want to see the "old status quo" of DCP dominance maintained),
04:05.35OfficerJackalAND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!
04:05.38DrodoEmpireThe Xonexi Allies (led by France and the Draconid Imperium, who wish to see a radical change to the political order for the sake of long-term stability)
04:05.39OfficerJackal*Doot doot*
04:05.41DrodoEmpirehur
04:06.03Roboticking45Hello Jackal
04:06.08OfficerJackalHeyo! :)
04:06.09DrodoEmpireAnd finally the neutral party the Mou'Cyran Accords, which is seen as a "way out" for those nations who want to stay neutral in the wars ahead
04:06.41DrodoEmpireThe Xonexi Allies and Civilization have been at war, and this war and conflict has defined the history of these three galaxies for quite some time now
04:06.46DrodoEmpireAs for Borealis and stuff I dunno
04:07.01DrodoEmpireThis is a *very basic* overview mind you
04:07.12Roboticking45ok thank you drodo
04:07.34Roboticking45and also what sounds better, the Valdron Collective or the Valdron Conglomerate
04:07.42DrodoEmpireA few other things have also happened too such as the Hyperspatial Revolution, which resulted in the far and wide proliferation of hyperdrives
04:08.14OfficerJackalRoboticking45: Valdron Collective in my opinion.
04:08.19Roboticking45I thought i saw a fiction a few years back detailing the race fo rhyperdrives and the dcp building hyperspace outposts
04:08.30DrodoEmpireAnd military technology is beginning to be revolutionized with hyperspatial weaponry (however such weapons are still mostly restricted to France and whatnot, no other nations would really have them quite yet)
04:08.36DrodoEmpire(Uless you trade for them
04:08.36Roboticking45I was thinking so too jackal, thank you
04:08.40DrodoEmpireNah
04:08.43DrodoEmpireI prefer conglomerate.
04:08.48DrodoEmpireDepends on the government.
04:09.02DrodoEmpire*wouldn't really quite have them
04:09.13OfficerJackalWell yeah, it does depend on the government.
04:09.22OfficerJackalWhat is their government going to be like?
04:10.03Roboticking45Well my species are more so a hive mind, of cyborgs (not looking like the borg, rather a completely different way to look at the word cyborg)
04:10.11OfficerJackalConglomerate sounds more right-wing/corporatist/group of corporations then anything else.
04:10.26DrodoEmpireThat or a merchantile nation
04:10.35OfficerJackalYeah.
04:10.38DrodoEmpireThen collective is more appropriate yes
04:11.03Roboticking45In this case, would an autocracy be an appropiate kind of government?
04:11.12Roboticking45appropriate*
04:11.46DrodoEmpireWell if its a hive mind
04:11.58DrodoEmpireThen human forms of government would almost not be applicable
04:12.09Roboticking45true...
04:12.32OfficerJackalBack.
04:12.40Roboticking45so what exactly would i term a central mind that makes decisions based off of intelligence gathered by others?
04:12.50OfficerJackalAnyways, uhh, if it's a hivemind that has a signifigant effect on what their government is like.
04:13.15OfficerJackalNot sure, it's up to you, since a center of a hivemind can be called anything.
04:13.39OfficerJackalIf it were an insectoid race you were talking about, I would probably call it either king or queen, or something like that.
04:14.04Roboticking45Well its more so a form of artificial intelligence than anything else
04:14.20Roboticking45thats why i was terming the leader the Central Mind
04:17.47OfficerJackalOhhh, alright, yeah you can just name it Central Mind of the Valdron Collective or something like that for official titles. A government like that would be considered a dictatorship if you want to put it like that, it depends how much control it has over the rest of the hive-mind.
04:19.32Roboticking45Well it bases decisions based of lesser  "minds" sort of a council
04:19.53Roboticking45but that is unseen, and the central mind is the true authority
04:21.09Roboticking45so i guess that would fight
04:21.11Roboticking45fit*
04:28.23Roboticking45I must go Farewell
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11:04.37JepardiHi
11:05.47Liquid_InkHello
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12:13.27Wormy_hi
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12:15.21HachimanHai
12:17.15Liquid_InkHey Hachi
12:17.24Liquid_InkI keep nearly spelling your name with a T
12:17.42HachimanSo, Tachi?
12:19.00Liquid_InkHatchi
12:20.02HachimanAh
12:25.22Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/71lePSc.png Map of my region, early history.
12:26.46Wormy_The Excation, such nostalgia
12:52.01Wormy_Hachiman:  Japan just doesn't stop getting weird
12:52.26HachimanOf course it doesn't
12:52.41Wormy_There's an island that has so much sulphur in the atmosphere its residents wear breathing masks at all times outside.
12:52.55Wormy_a volcanic one
12:52.58HachimanJesus
12:53.17HachimanCannot tell whether that is stubbornly badass or stupid on their part
12:53.39Wormy_A wedding on the Izu Islands http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/images/assets_c/2011/01/IzuIslands012811-thumb-330x247-56271.jpg
12:54.10Wormy_http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3z7228Ct01rw4cjfo1_500.jpg
12:54.34Wormy_http://www.earthtripper.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_mobile_adaptive/public/izu3-island.jpg?itok=Qq9U3oXX
12:54.49HachimanReminds me of the Helghast from Killzone
12:55.05Liquid_InkIsn't one of those actually from Britain during an air raid?
12:55.34Wormy_That one might be actually
12:56.15Wormy_The Izu island's population also has the least population drop
12:57.26Wormy_http://onemorepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Izu-Islands.jpg
13:02.29Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/kB7802T.png A less interesting map, but introduces some new precursors I'll add to my fiction to do some fleshing out.
13:02.48Liquid_Ink(Located in the exact same space as my other map)
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13:42.16Technobliteratorhttps://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xla1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12046576_987832457958819_1113647155461078223_n.jpg?oh=eb98c569f259a4b85fc6cb8549c86779&oe=5698A55B&__gda__=1454074759_89cae9d4f65522890f09e224cce9ba57
13:42.18Technobliteratordumbo
13:43.44Hachiman>15 years later he blew up a planet
13:44.15HachimanDamn, I forget how short a space of time there is between The Phantom Menace and A New Hope
13:47.51OluapPlayerlosa
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14:37.26Roboticking45Hello
14:39.49HachimanSo I just learned that the word "human" as a noun first came into usage during the 16th Century
14:40.15Roboticking45...Really?
14:41.47Roboticking45And hello Hachiman, its good to speak with you again
14:42.02HachimanIt was largely an adjective prior to being used as a noun
14:42.04HachimanHai
14:43.02Roboticking45hows hachi doing in the fiction universe?
14:44.11HachimanBetter than ever I do suppose
14:44.25HachimanAs of 2810
14:45.43Roboticking45Good, do you remember my old fiction?
14:46.38HachimanNot really, unfortunately
14:48.04Roboticking45no worries as im starting fresh with a new one
14:48.20Roboticking45as i have nott touched the previous one in around 2 years
14:48.24Roboticking45not*
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15:05.34XhoThe IRC appears to be dead
15:05.58TechnobliteratorOr you just killed it by slapping people
15:05.59Technobliterator:         |
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15:06.22Roboticking45~slap xho
15:06.22infobotACTION slaps xho, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:06.25Technobliteratorslaps Xho around a bit with a large...warhammer?
15:06.39Xhotentacle rapes Technobliterator
15:06.55Roboticking45Well...that escalated quickly
15:07.23XhoHey I need to vent my lovecraftian sexual urges somewhere
15:07.46Roboticking45Good to know
15:08.01Technobliterator._.
15:08.01Technobliteratorsets Xho on fire
15:08.19XhoFiery tentacle rape
15:08.24XhoJust another day on the SporeWiki RIC
15:08.26XhoIRC even
15:11.27Roboticking45Well yay?
15:11.44Roboticking45have the xhodocto destroyed the universe as of late?
15:12.34OluapPlayer~throw Xho
15:12.34infobotACTION winds up and throws Xho over the moon.
15:12.45Xhomotherf
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15:13.00Wormy__hi
15:13.32OluapPlayerHi
15:14.20Roboticking45Hello
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15:14.46CyrannianHello!
15:14.48dromHai
15:14.54XhoOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Monolith             >blue               >not lympharian
15:15.22OluapPlayerSurprise, not everything blue is a Lympharian
15:15.26OluapPlayer~kick Cyrannian
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15:15.47DrodoEmpireHey everyone
15:15.48Cyrannian~explode OluapPlayer
15:15.48infobotACTION blows up OluapPlayer with bombs
15:21.36Roboticking45everyone is so ind to one another :P
15:22.09drom"ind"?
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15:26.55Ghelawaydrom: I think he meant "kind".
15:27.14dromI c
15:46.40DrodoEmpiretest
15:51.53TechnobliteratorNot sure if I should store the old First Ottzello War page in a subpage or just delete the whole thing
15:52.13TechnobliteratorWith how bad it is, I'm tempted to just write over it and say "if you really want to see the original, check the page history"
15:53.54GhelawayUnless there's a major nostalgia reason I don't see why you need any other record of it.
15:54.45TechnobliteratorWell, yeah
15:54.52TechnobliteratorIt's mostly how drastically different it was
15:55.15TechnobliteratorThe current war is set around 2750, while the original was set in 2300
15:57.43TechnobliteratorI'm considering just getting rid of the Galot creature projects
15:57.47Technobliteratorthat was kind of pointless
15:57.49GhelawayI've never considered being drastically different a reason to save any old fiction that I've since retconned. Then again I'm probably at the upper extreme when it comes to willingness to retcon.
16:01.33GhelawayThat reminds me: what happened to your project of deleted all the unused images?
16:01.35Ghelawaydeleting*
16:02.33Technobliteratoroh god
16:02.37TechnobliteratorI completely forgot about that
16:03.28TechnobliteratorI'll get back to it
16:07.34Xhohttps://youtu.be/NgyqQ5Doe80?t=55s skills
16:14.17Technobliteratorokay, I'm going to destroy the RecentChanges right now
16:14.24TechnobliteratorI found a way to do it waaaaaay faster
16:15.07Technobliteratoruse ?hidelogs=1
16:15.46TechnobliteratorOf course, I can still only delete 1,000 a day
16:15.59Technobliteratorso this means I still have to wait probably several weeks
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16:31.28TechnobliteratorI'm gonna get something to eat while this bot finishes running
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16:51.47CatfaceHi.
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17:26.58Quark8Hello.
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17:29.24OluapPlayerCyrannian: spooky
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17:33.40OluapPlayerreturn of the spu
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17:35.08Quark8Is the slap option new?
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17:36.45XhoQuite new yeah
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17:49.09ImperiosJi
17:49.10ImperiosHi
17:50.13ImperiosOluapPlayer Xho Hachiman: http://cs543109.vk.me/v543109586/273d/qvKUbMHwMd8.jpg So Alyona sent me this
17:50.22XhoBURN
17:50.24ImperiosThe demon still lives
17:50.32OluapPlayerYou're a week late
17:50.35HachimanAye
17:50.39OluapPlayerFinish Fog War section pls
17:50.49HachimanScott announced FNAF World as a spinoff title
17:52.00ImperiosI only played the first part hur
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18:12.43Technobliteratoryup
18:12.56Technobliteratornot many people are happy about the announcement
18:13.35CatfaceWas FNAF supposed to be scary or a satire of the horror game genre? I can't tell.
18:14.52Technobliteratorshrug
18:14.59TechnobliteratorI don't know anything about the game, but my friend runs the wiki
18:16.54OluapPlayerIt was made to be horror
18:17.06OluapPlayerThe newly announced game will not be horror-themed
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18:17.37dromrawr
18:17.42CatfaceIt's as spooky as deviantart.
18:18.02OluapPlayerThat's your opinion
18:19.03TechnobliteratorI'd never play it, personally
18:19.05TechnobliteratorI hate horror
18:19.33CatfaceRight. I think the main reason is that I don't find horror things that scary.
18:20.09TechnobliteratorI don't derive any enjoyment from playing horror games
18:20.13Technobliteratoror watching horror films
18:20.37CatfaceThe only horror movies I like are the low budget b movie ones.
18:21.13CatfaceLike this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/CriminallyInsanePoster.jpg/220px-CriminallyInsanePoster.jpg
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18:44.25Roboticking45Hello
18:46.49Roboticking45?
18:47.36ImperiosCatface: Deviantart is not spooky?
18:48.23Imperioshttp://antarcticspring.deviantart.com/art/Succubus-315915151?q=favby%3AAsdruabel%2F9757951&qo=178 ahem
18:48.28Imperioshttp://asdruabel.deviantart.com/art/Glump-319755913 ahem
18:48.34Imperioshttp://tlishman.deviantart.com/art/Yawn-359004207?q=favby%3AAsdruabel%2F9757951&qo=35 AHEM
18:49.12Roboticking45I must agree with your hypothesis
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18:57.10roboticking45_Hello?
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19:18.42Spuhajaa
19:18.50Hachimanaajah
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19:35.13Wormy_Just watched Doctor Who
19:35.34SpuI saw a bit of that
19:35.42SpuNot quite sure how people can watch it really
19:35.59Wormy_Its very surreal at times lol
19:41.41SpuOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6d/Kit2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150919193907 Updated Kit's appearance
19:41.58OluapPlayerI see
19:44.02SpuKit is 31 as of 2810
19:44.02SpuJesus
20:07.19HachimanHachi is 33
20:16.02Wormy_sorry its 9gag, but still, Samuari Star Wars http://9gag.com/gag/avLEQXO?ref=fbp
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20:17.12roboticking45Hello?
20:19.00roboticking45is anyone speaking?
20:21.01OluapPlayerOnly when there is something to talk about
20:21.03OluapPlayerSpu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPRwmgbWUAEXnM_.png
20:21.39roboticking45ah
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20:24.57HachimanSamurai Star Wars looks awesome
20:28.12roboticking45?
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20:34.20OluapPlayerSpu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPRwmgbWUAEXnM_.png
20:34.30SpuSad but true
20:35.21OluapPlayerNEED A DISPENSER HERE x999999
20:38.20SpuIs it me or is there a texture missing on the drop-down menu on wiki articles
20:39.40CyrannianI have that problem too
20:39.52OluapPlayerNot sure what you mean
20:45.29Quark8Mee too
20:45.34Quark8*Me
20:50.43OpelSpeedsterI don't see it
20:51.18OpelSpeedsterSpu: Post a screenshot
20:51.25Spuech
20:52.03OpelSpeedsterah nevermind
20:52.04OpelSpeedstersaw it
20:55.50Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Apollo#History - Apollo's Life: The Abridged Series
20:56.07Technobliteratorugh
20:56.25TechnobliteratorIt's so hard to rewrite the Galot Republic page without looking back at it and thinking "wow, that is seriously boring"
20:56.38TechnobliteratorI've scrapped a rewrite of this page about 6 times now
20:56.46OluapPlayerApollo - demons and evil overlords and gorf
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21:04.13TechnobliteratorI think I'll just merge most Ottzelloan races into the Galot Republic
21:05.17TechnobliteratorCyrannian, Wormy_, can I add the DCP and the URC to allies of the Galot Republic?
21:05.31CyrannianSure
21:05.47Wormy_Absolutely
21:08.05TechnobliteratorI'm not sure what kind of technology they could have
21:08.22OluapPlayerTechy technology
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21:09.09The_RandomnessHello
21:09.12Technobliteratorhi randum
21:09.26TechnobliteratorI need a kind of...basic technology
21:09.37The_RandomnessWhat is it?
21:09.45Technobliteratorrewriting the Galot Republic page
21:10.36The_Randomnesslink?
21:11.33Technobliteratorthe page doesn't exist yet
21:11.33Technobliterator:P
21:11.49The_Randomnessoi
21:11.51The_Randomness*o
21:12.39OpelSpeedsterTechnobliterator: Leave the technology part for later, and focus on the rest
21:13.44SpuAh dammit
21:14.21SpuDoes anyone ever get that annoying moment when they toggle the editor background make a screenshot on Spore, close the game and realise they didn't change the background
21:15.25OluapPlayerdo u not hav eyes
21:15.37SpuNot all the time
21:15.54SpuI was remaking a character
21:16.15SpuEvidently lost my concentration on the screenshot stage
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21:26.17Roboticking45is there any open events in the Andromeda galaxy going on now?
21:26.33Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Galot_Republic :o
21:27.01Roboticking45?
21:27.05Technobliteratorbah
21:27.09Technobliteratorcan anyone make me a flag plz
21:27.26OluapPlayerno lol
21:27.39Technobliteratorya moms dum
21:27.54Technobliteratoralso take a look at the Galot Republic
21:27.59Technobliteratorthe guys who get smashed by the Loron
21:28.07Technobliteratorand the Kralgon later but mostly by Loron
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21:28.41OluapPlayerpaeg is empty
21:30.25Roboticking45So our making this nation so that it may be destroyed by the Loron?
21:30.30Roboticking45your*\
21:32.37Roboticking45Is anyone on the chat currently, based in the Andromeda galaxy?
21:33.10TechnobliteratorMore-or-less every pre-UNO empire was created for that sole purpose
21:33.11Technobliterator._.
21:33.21OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nightshade_Clan rewrite
21:34.06Technobliteratorno Fantasy Loron allies
21:34.07Technobliterator0/10
21:34.34Wormy_Spu:  I was just shown this album https://blacktempest.bandcamp.com/
21:34.34OluapPlayerFantasy Loron ded
21:34.42Technobliteratorwat
21:34.45Wormy_dark, droney prog rock
21:35.10OluapPlayerYou've not been part of the fantasyverse in ten gazillion years
21:35.11OluapPlayertherefore ded
21:35.20Technobliteratorwell yeah
21:35.24TechnobliteratorI never could get into it
21:35.44Roboticking45I have a quick question on writing my fiction, when i write a paragraph, it appears in a scrollable line, not in the normal form i wanted,could you help me with this (i apologize, I have not been here for a while)
21:36.42Wormy_Spu:  Check out Throbbing Gristle and Coil too  Acid rock
21:37.13Spurite
21:37.34Roboticking45nevermind, i forgot about adding a space infront as an indent causes that
21:37.44The_RandomnessYeah, that would do it
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21:45.55Wormy_Spu:  WTF not sure what to make of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ
21:49.05Roboticking45are there any nations in the Andromeda galaxy open to possibily allying the Valdron Collective?
21:49.56dromNomatari Sovereignty is open for alliances, but I would like to see your page as well!
21:53.48dromToo bad that Charles and Monet aren't here now, cause they is all over this kind of stuff.
21:55.05dromRoboticking45: Here's a link to my fiction if you would like to ally with them. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty
21:56.19Roboticking45Im reading it now, thank you
21:56.43Roboticking45http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Valdron:Collective
21:56.48dromMay it be lengthy for you, but enjoy
21:56.55Roboticking45wait use this link
21:57.05Roboticking45http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Valdron_Collective
21:57.11dromAlready got it :)
21:57.23Roboticking45there is mine, i just started it yesterday
21:57.28Roboticking45just so you know
21:58.09Roboticking45Too whoma re they currently allied/ foes with?
21:58.14Roboticking45to whom are they*
21:58.37dromRoboticking45: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty#Relations
21:59.47TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, can I use a Vida'Rranlora in the top quote on the Galot Republic page?
22:00.06OluapPlayerIf you're able to emulate their speech, sure
22:00.27Roboticking45How did the sovereignty get into a war with the DCP if i may ask?
22:01.13dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGreat_Xonexian_Schism
22:01.49dromIf you just want to read the act where they engage for the first time: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGreat_Xonexian_Schism#The_.22Chokehold.22_Theatre
22:02.05Technobliteratorhas their speech changed drastically from how I remember it?
22:02.40OluapPlayerUse their Fog War section as reference
22:02.48dromNaakjian Confederation is one of my Andromedan fiction, but it is on way to be reduced into a smaller shared fiction with Cyrannian.
22:03.06OluapPlayerThey are supposed to be cold, logical and don't pay attention to morality
22:04.32Roboticking45ok, I will offer an ailliance to you, but does that include declring war on the DCP?
22:04.47Roboticking45because that...is risky
22:05.07dromNot nescessarily
22:05.23OpelSpeedsterRoboticking45: Ask Wormy_, but unless you aid them against the DCP, you should be safe
22:05.34TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, added a quote, is it ok? (you can just refresh the Galot Republic page)
22:05.54Roboticking45ok, i assume wormy is afk right now?
22:05.57CyrannianThe CyraEmp are allies of both the NS and the DCP,  so there's no problem in allying both
22:06.15OpelSpeedsterdrom: Why the Sovereignty regards the Mou'Cyran Accords as suspicious?
22:06.39dromYou can choose to stay out it. I've conspirced a future peace treaty with Wormy_'s DCP, which I've also told Charles and Monet about.
22:06.47Technobliteratoralso written the republic's history bit
22:07.01Technobliteratorcome to think of it where is Monet
22:07.04Roboticking45Ok, then i offer an alliance to the Sovereignty
22:07.06dromOpelSpeedster: Long story, NC is in centre of it.
22:07.18Roboticking45And hello Cyrannian, its been a long time
22:07.25dromAnd it is not Cyrannian's NCR I'm talking about
22:07.39OpelSpeedsterAh alright
22:07.41CyrannianRoboticking45: Indeed it has, welcome back!
22:08.23OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: I've changed it to fit the Rranlora's attitude
22:08.46Technobliteratorahh
22:08.46Technobliteratorthanks
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22:09.54OpelSpeedsterDoes anyone here use Space Engine as a way to take screenshots of planets and other spacey stuff?
22:10.11dromYes, but not me though.
22:10.52OpelSpeedsterHm, I'm considering to use it as well.
22:11.13DrodoEmpireYeah a few do
22:11.17DrodoEmpireIts a good tool for sure
22:11.28DrodoEmpireReally high-quality pictures if you find the right planet
22:11.36dromWormy_ and TekDroid use it for other purposes, but they can may help you.
22:11.48OpelSpeedsterIndeed, I found a planet that looks really like I imagine Agethime would be like
22:11.57DrodoEmpireNice
22:12.02OpelSpeedsterBrown, swampy colours and a ring around it
22:12.06OpelSpeedsterSadly no moon
22:12.22DrodoEmpireSay its out of frame?
22:12.30dromI believe there is an editor
22:12.34OpelSpeedsterYeah, I could do that. Or take a screenshot and photoshop it in
22:12.38TekDroidIf your processor can handle it you can also export the planet's map
22:12.51OpelSpeedsterdrom: The editor can't edit orbits, only planets' appearances
22:13.03dromAright
22:13.49Wormy_I'm not 100% sure whether we are allowed to.  I mean yeah, the developer gives us royalty free liscense for free use of his images, but putting Spore content in is contentious
22:14.10Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:14.16Wormy_But I'm paranoid
22:14.22dromQuite interesting fiction you've got there, Roboticking45. Looking forward for the updates!
22:14.45OpelSpeedsterWormy_: Well, technically the Fiction Universe is not part of Spore, it just uses it as an inspiration and as a way of taking screenshots of races
22:14.51Roboticking45Thank you drom, I assume we have an agreement?
22:15.03TechnobliteratorNope
22:15.06Wormy_Opel:  I mean actually putting Spore content in
22:15.13TechnobliteratorThe Fiction Universe is on SporeWiki, so yes, it is part of Spore
22:15.24OpelSpeedsterAh welp
22:15.29TechnobliteratorAs is everything created in it
22:15.33Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:15.54TechnobliteratorIf it's licensed under fair use, we can display it here
22:16.16dromRoboticking45: Er-je-hep
22:16.28Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:16.45Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:17.02OpelSpeedsterYeah. In my opinion, as long as both requirements are met then it should be fine
22:17.30Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:17.41OpelSpeedsterHm, true
22:18.30Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:18.43Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:18.44dromRoboticking45, which one do you feel most comfortable with? Close allies or simply allies?
22:18.54TechnobliteratorWe're not earning from it, Wormy_
22:19.00Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:19.02Wormy_^
22:19.15TechnobliteratorIf it's licensed under fair use, we can display it just fine
22:19.18Technobliteratoror creative commons
22:19.20Roboticking45I would say Allies, as the collective is just starting out, they are being careful, but not going to far into anything
22:19.21Technobliteratoretc
22:19.36Wormy_My 3D work uses Maya, student liscense means I can't put it on youtube
22:20.02Wormy_Youtube is not non-prifit in theie eyes, even if I've not monetised a video
22:20.14dromUse Blender
22:20.26Wormy_Too late to turn around now
22:20.28dromJust export everything as .obj
22:20.39Wormy_My work uses acripts and dynamics
22:20.44Wormy_Can't export that
22:20.49Wormy_easily anyway
22:20.52dromOh well
22:21.07Wormy_I think I can post showreels on Vimeo
22:21.30Wormy_Its weird and anal, but thats just the way it goes
22:22.45Wormy_SE's liscence is explained here anyway http://en.spaceengine.org/index/license/0-30
22:22.46Roboticking45.....
22:22.54Wormy_I think we can upload SE screenshots
22:23.03Wormy_Mixing them with Spore is more grey
22:23.31OpelSpeedsterI probably won't need to mix them with Spore
22:24.11Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:24.27OpelSpeedsterYeah, I understood, just commenting
22:24.40OpelSpeedsterMaybe I will in the future after all
22:24.51Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:24.56OpelSpeedsterPossibly as some sort of banner, propaganda or the like
22:25.04OpelSpeedsterHeh, yeah
22:25.42TekDroidI really do look forwards to seeing the final product of Space Engine.
22:26.02OpelSpeedsterActually, I probably should do those banners Cyrannian made for the New Cyrannian Republic/Cyrannian Empire
22:26.08OpelSpeedsterif he won't mind me copying him that is hur
22:26.43Roboticking45Drom, on the topic of the Andromeda Galaxy, are there any events that the Valdron could be apart of (as the major players in the galaxy aren not online)
22:27.12DrodoEmpireTek: Same
22:27.14CyrannianOpelSpeedster: Go ahead
22:27.29OpelSpeedsterAlright, it probably will only be done two weeks from now though
22:27.33OpelSpeedstergot a lot of stuff to do
22:28.05dromRoboticking45: I'm no big player, so I'm afraid that I don't know.
22:28.18Roboticking45ok, thanks anyways
22:28.57dromYou could contact Monet, he currently runs most of the "QA" of Andromedan History
22:29.21dromHe isn't in this channel anyway, you can find in an other channel.
22:29.30dromfind him in*
22:29.52Technobliteratorstill don't know where monet's gone
22:29.56Roboticking45ok thank you
22:30.02TekDroidI don't think he's online currently anyway.
22:30.08dromHe isn't
22:30.09Technobliteratoror, more importantly, why
22:30.28dromLong story, both parts are guility
22:30.35Technobliterator<PROTECTED>
22:30.44Technobliteratorthiiiiiiis doesn't really give me much context :  |
22:30.58Roboticking45hmm
22:32.26OpelSpeedsterRoboticking45: I took a look at the Andromeda article and apparently there is nothing much going on
22:32.30OpelSpeedsterthe galaxy is in a period of peace
22:32.37OpelSpeedsterI could be wrong though, not an Andromeda player
22:32.37Roboticking45ah
22:32.39DrodoEmpireNope.
22:32.44OpelSpeedster(Though I'm considering to colonize it)
22:32.52DrodoEmpireI'd say that page hasn't been updated in some time
22:32.59OpelSpeedsterAh
22:33.12DrodoEmpireAs of 2803 there is a war going on, part of the Xonexi War
22:33.27TekDroidRight now Andromeda is engaged in a full scale galactic invasion.
22:33.30DrodoEmpire^
22:34.31Roboticking45are nations allowed to colonize two galaxies? (at tier 3?)
22:35.02dromYes
22:35.11dromBut preferably if you add an explaination to that
22:35.19TechnobliteratorYou can colonise as many as you want, as long as you don't go over your limit
22:35.28TechnobliteratorIt's also kind of impractical to base your empire nowhere
22:36.42TekDroidIntergalactic colonization is less the technology and more the means. A Tier 5 could hypothetically colonize another galaxy if they were next to a wormhole, for instance.
22:37.39TekDroidWhile a Tier 2 could be forced to take the long journey with no chance of ever recontacting their home galaxy.
22:38.04TekDroidIt's all a matter of context.
22:40.16OpelSpeedster^
22:40.28TekDroid*sigh*
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22:40.34OpelSpeedsterTier is not the only factor though, right?
22:40.40Roboticking45sorry, my internet cut out
22:40.44OpelSpeedsterIt's okay
22:40.58OpelSpeedsterMy civilization is Tier 3, but needs to expand quickly because their birth rates are very high
22:40.59Roboticking45slaps drom around a bit with a large fishbot
22:41.00TekDroidMy copy/paste doesn't work on this, can someone repost what I said?
22:41.19Roboticking45well...thats a new tool
22:41.21OpelSpeedster[19:37] <TekDroid> While a Tier 2 could be forced to take the long journey with no chance of ever recontacting their home galaxy.
22:41.26OpelSpeedster[19:38] <TekDroid> It's all a matter of context.
22:42.00Roboticking45are you talking about colonizing multiple galaxies?
22:42.05OpelSpeedsteryea
22:42.27OpelSpeedsterThe Kingdom of Agethime is a multigalactic civilization for example
22:42.29TekDroidBasically it's not a matter of technology, it's a matter of of you have access
22:42.41OpelSpeedsterThey are from the Milky Way but also have colonized Mirus
22:43.08TekDroidFarengeto has a foothold in a few galaxies thanks to a few beneficial contacts.
22:43.08OpelSpeedsterTek is right, the KoA got to Mirus thanks to a wormhole owned by one of their allies, the Unified Alliance of Enlightenment
22:43.39OpelSpeedsterIf it weren't for that wormhole, they wouldn't reach even the satellite galaxies around the Milky Way
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22:44.13OpelSpeedsterThough they can also create artificial wormholes
22:44.30TekDroidThat's a fairly advanced tech though
22:44.41OpelSpeedsterTekDroid: True, but their version is pretty primitive
22:45.06Roboticking45true, i will base the Valdron in the Andromeda galaxy, but how could i get them to a different galaxy...any suggestions?
22:45.09OpelSpeedsterIt requires a LOT of power for instance
22:46.05TekDroidMilky Way-Andromeda contact is severely limited currently. Most of the connections were severed earlier in the war.
22:46.26Roboticking45what about andromeda-cyrannus?
22:46.45TekDroidYou'd have to ask Cyrannian.
22:48.04CyrannianCyrannus is accessible only through wormholes. In Andromeda, there are two that are currently known to link the two, one controlled by the Cyrannian Empire and the other by the Cyrannian Republic. The use of either would need to be granted by either government.
22:48.13CyrannianUnless they discover a third somewhere
22:48.20OpelSpeedsterTekDroid: Other limitations of the Agethimian Artificial Wormhole™ are that you need to be connected to a special device to transport yourself around
22:48.25Technobliteratorare there any in Borealis?
22:48.26OpelSpeedsterSaid device is massive and heavy
22:48.30TechnobliteratorI can't remember if there were
22:48.39OpelSpeedsterSo attaching them to crafts is really inefficient, bordering on impossible
22:48.39dromProbably just one I think
22:49.09OpelSpeedsterTherefore, to even use the Artificial Wormhole™, you need to dock to a craft that has the device, then transport yourself
22:49.21OpelSpeedsterAnd there aren't many crafts with said devices
22:49.24Roboticking45well those limitations may actually work out well for a story line
22:49.32TekDroidThere was also the Katar-Cyrannus wormhole, currently under Farengeto control with KSA supervision.
22:49.42OpelSpeedsterYeah, I quite like those limitations
22:50.13OpelSpeedsterPlus, the Artificial Wormholes™ aren't something like "Activate this, set coordinates, and bang, you can instantly go from the Milky Way to Cyrannus in no time flat!"
22:50.22OpelSpeedsterTo even get to Cyrannus, for example, you'd need to place a Warp Beacon there
22:50.36OpelSpeedstertherefore, you need to *go* to Cyrannus before you can *warp* to Cyrannus
22:51.11dromRoboticking45: Regarding the Andromedan events ... I've established a contact with Monet, he wonders about what were you thinking about.
22:51.42dromIn case anyone wonders, I've him on Steam and he is online.
22:51.43OpelSpeedsterWhich also means you need to be careful around the Warp Beacons. Some vandals are able to render it unusable, or even steal it to set up a trap
22:51.48CyrannianOpelSpeedster: That works with the fact that not even the Empire can use artificial wormholes to breach the Oikoumene-constructed galactic barrier surrounding the galaxy
22:52.29OpelSpeedsterHuh, I didn't know there's a barrier around Cyrannus
22:52.30OpelSpeedsterthat's new
22:53.08Roboticking45I like your pragmatism and productivity Drom, tell him im wondering if the Valdron can get in on the current conflict and if I can align them with one of the sides
22:53.27CyrannianOpelSpeedster: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bf/CyrandiaCluster.png/revision/latest?cb=20140914185916 - c the information on the right
22:53.34dromCyrannian: It doesn't however stop them to create an artifical/temponary link right outside the barrier, then travel through it and move the end inside the barrier?
22:53.45OpelSpeedsterThe image is too small
22:53.58Roboticking45I have to agree, it is quite small
22:54.25OpelSpeedsterIt's a wikia glitch
22:54.29OpelSpeedsterIf you link directly to an image it will only look like a thumbnail
22:54.44Cyranniandrom: If y'all want to enter the Cyrannus Galaxy, y'all need to use a natural wormhole. No alternative to that exists.
22:54.44dromOh wait, I see now
22:54.58OpelSpeedsterLink like this instead: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:CyrandiaCluster.png
22:55.10CyrannianAh can you see it now?
22:55.20OpelSpeedsteryeah, had to type it that way
22:55.32dromRoboticking45: "Seems like an okay idea.
22:55.32drom"
22:55.44dromdang, forgot to remove that end-line
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22:56.03Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy#Trivia - More information here
22:56.06OpelSpeedsterCyrannian: Would this primitive 'wormhole' work though? In reality, the Agethimian Artificial Wormhole™ is more like a teleporter than a wormhole
22:56.11Roboticking45alright then, ask him what sides are avaliable?
22:56.12OpelSpeedsterBut I guess it probably won't
22:56.44dromRoboticking45: While I await on his answer for that, you can check GXS
22:57.12dromRoboticking45: See the infobox http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGreat_Xonexian_Schism
22:57.37CyrannianOpelSpeedster: It would certainly work within the galaxy, though it would not work as a means to enter it from an extragalactic location
22:57.53OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
22:57.53infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
22:57.55OluapPlayerI'm back
22:57.57dromBasically: Xonexi Allies and DCP
22:58.25dromThough you might want to talk with Wormy_ about siding with DCP (and its' Civilization faction)
22:58.45Roboticking45~Kick Oluaplayer
22:58.45infobotACTION kicks Oluaplayer
22:59.03Roboticking45ok thank you drom
22:59.30dromFor siding with the XA, talk with Monet or Charles (alias Charles_Murray, Charles_Bot)
22:59.44OpelSpeedsterCyrannian: Alright, good to know
22:59.45dromor perhaps Wormy_ if you cannot wait
23:00.10Wormy_I should say that I can't discuss write now, doing some work
23:00.14Wormy_right
23:00.28dromWormy_ is one among three coordinators; Charles and Monet and himself.
23:00.32OpelSpeedsterCyrannian: When you talked about a barrier around Cyrannus, I thought the entire galaxy was being held hostage for a while until you clarified :P
23:00.48Roboticking45I think XA would be best, as they are closer to home and the Valdron would not want to anger many over the few
23:00.53Technobliterator"Many consider Cyrannus a fortress galaxy, nigh impenetrable from extragalactic invasion."
23:00.57TechnobliteratorMechanic - wow wannabes
23:00.57Cyrannianhur
23:02.21Technobliteratorugh, the Cleanslate debates of 2011
23:02.27TechnobliteratorThose were not fun times
23:02.46dromCyrannian: What about normal sub-light travel. Just pushing on the limits, really
23:03.26CyrannianIt would work right up until the ship exploded violently upon reaching the barrier.
23:03.30Technobliteratorlol
23:03.34Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Coming/Annihilation?action=history xho never edited the page
23:03.35Technobliteratorweird
23:03.49dromSince the blurb only mentions FTL, but also whitelists wormholes as the one and the only exclusive travel method
23:04.19Technobliteratorah, back before I added edit summaries to everything
23:05.07OluapPlayerXho didn't make the Annihilation
23:05.17OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure it was either yours or Wormy's idea
23:05.24Wormy_In fact it was my idea, I inspired him
23:05.29OluapPlayerI was right
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23:05.40Wormy_I just tempted him
23:06.07Wormy_Like the devil in the devil's shoulder
23:06.11Wormy_*on
23:06.20OluapPlayerDevilception
23:07.28TechnobliteratorI didn't want anything to do with it until Ghelae and Random persuaded me that it was a good idea, then I tried to push it too hard
23:07.43Technobliteratorand, being my typical 2011 self, tried to unilaterally change stuff
23:07.54Cyrannian"Watching The Annihilation from a nearby universe."                          UNIVERSES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY
23:08.31TechnobliteratorAh, Mush did that
23:08.38TechnobliteratorAnd...probably stole that image
23:08.53OluapPlayerAh yes
23:09.04OluapPlayerThe legendary "the universe is dying, let's get naked" section
23:09.09The_Randomnesslol
23:09.10OluapPlayerWill forever be a staple of the wiki
23:09.26CyrannianHe was a good writer though, can't deny that
23:09.36TechnobliteratorMaybe I should...totally rewrite the prologue section to not suck or reference the Game of Existence since that's non-canon now
23:09.39Technobliteratormeh
23:10.19OluapPlayerMy section in that is non-canon now but I don't care to fix it
23:10.28OluapPlayerThe Annihilation page is kind of a complete mess
23:10.40TechnobliteratorWell, yeah
23:10.41dromCyrannian: You just inspired me that Dquartali galaxy would be protected by an indescribable anomaly field that protects the galaxy by absorbing destructable energy and cause a teleportation to an other universe, dimension or layer of existence.
23:10.46Technobliteratorand no one can be bothered to fix it
23:10.49Technobliteratorbecause, well
23:10.57Technobliteratorno one wants to revisit those days
23:10.59Technobliterator:       |
23:11.20OluapPlayerHerquie's wife was a Rainbow Snake back then
23:11.31OluapPlayerCanon Herquie never even had any relationships
23:11.32CyrannianOluapPlayer: "One of them turned to look at her, ignoring her nakedness. He said nothing. A single finger of his pointed"       "bewbs"
23:11.45OluapPlayer-Hachiman, Age 8
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23:12.28TechnobliteratorI'm tempted to do what I will do to my other war pages and replace it with a summary page
23:12.35Technobliteratorbut leave that section in
23:12.41Technobliteratorbecause lol
23:12.47Roboticking45drom, do you mind posting a link to your fiction once more?
23:13.09dromhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty
23:14.11OpelSpeedsterhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Milky_Way_Map.png Could someone update the Milky Way map to include the Kingdom of Agethime?
23:14.40QUARK8How do you change your name?
23:14.41OpelSpeedsterOr Charles is the only one who knows the artstyle of the map?
23:14.44Roboticking45thank you drom
23:14.50The_Randomness./nick
23:14.53OpelSpeedsterQUARK8: ./nick (new name)
23:14.57OpelSpeedsterwithout the dot
23:15.02drom<PROTECTED>
23:15.05OpelSpeedster^
23:15.12Quark8Thank you.
23:15.17OpelSpeedsterYou're welcome
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23:19.03Roboticking45drom
23:19.19Roboticking45why is the Valdron a minimal threat D:
23:21.57dromNS - YA ALL ARE TINY
23:23.01Roboticking45YALL GOT 21000 SYSTEMS UNDER YER BELT WITH 6.4 TRILLION POPULATING THEM SYSTEMS
23:23.35Wormy_Civilisation - no u r
23:23.54Roboticking45WAAAAAAAT
23:24.03Roboticking45Ok, maybe we aren that...big
23:24.06Roboticking45are not*
23:24.21dromNS - *tackles VA and runs away*
23:24.42Roboticking45i need to fix the population, is 6.4 enough to populate that many systems?
23:24.46Roboticking45trillion*
23:24.53OpelSpeedsterI'd say so
23:25.06OpelSpeedsterBut keep in mind earth as a reference
23:25.30Roboticking45so "comfortably" 6-7 billion
23:25.33The_RandomnessAlthough, most colonies probably won't be nearly as populous
23:25.41OpelSpeedsterYeah, true
23:26.07OpelSpeedsterUnless you can terraform quickly and have a lot of resources to construct many cities
23:26.17Roboticking45i think the population should due now that i calculate it completely
23:26.20OpelSpeedsterBut that would require Tier 2 technology
23:26.47OpelSpeedsterOr a very, very, *VERY* productive Tier 3
23:27.02Roboticking45and not all the colonies are fully complete, so that would help to deplete some colonies and increase others
23:27.12Roboticking45Soo i think it may be good...for ow
23:27.14Roboticking45now*
23:27.21OpelSpeedsterWelp, your call
23:27.29Roboticking45but what if your civilzation is adapted to most any environment
23:27.43Roboticking45due to the fact they had orbited a red giant
23:28.22DrodoEmpireWhy would it be well-adapted due to its host star?
23:28.38OpelSpeedster^
23:29.00OpelSpeedsterEven then, the star type would likely influence one environment
23:29.09Roboticking45hmph, its most adapted to planets closer to their stars
23:29.17Roboticking45so that wouldnt be "Every"
23:29.20Roboticking45environment
23:29.26OpelSpeedsterA blue giant would influence hotter climates, red dwarves would influence colder climates, red giants more radiation, etc
23:29.53OpelSpeedsterRoboticking45: Planets closer to the star are hotter and more radioactive
23:30.06Roboticking45i know
23:30.07DrodoEmpireIndeed it would not be every environment, it'd adapt your species well to planets close to their sun
23:30.14OpelSpeedsterSo they would be adapted for hotter climates, and maybe slightly more resistance to radiation
23:30.25OpelSpeedsterYour species would not survive in colder weather
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23:30.49OpelSpeedsterUnless the planet is tidally locked, and there are specimen which live in the 'eternal twilight' area
23:31.35OpelSpeedsterOr the planet is not close enough to the star for its poles to be cold like Earth's
23:32.09OpelSpeedster(i.e. if a planet is too close to its star, the poles will not be as cold)
23:32.19Roboticking45i understand
23:32.59OpelSpeedsterBut even then, only the individuals who live in the colder areas would be better off on cold weather
23:33.07Roboticking45So considering these factors, i may need to decrease total population due to the terraforming and enviornmental factors
23:33.23OpelSpeedsterProbably not by much
23:33.23Roboticking459by the way, the valdron are ore cybernetic than organic
23:33.29Roboticking45more*
23:33.32OpelSpeedsterAh
23:33.37OpelSpeedsterGood to know
23:33.54Roboticking45they've kept their cybernetic tradiations after colonizing other planets, so thats also a factor
23:34.09OpelSpeedsterWell, if they are more cybernetic than organic, then they're already more resistant to weather than organics
23:34.43Roboticking45and to temperatures
23:34.48OpelSpeedsterYeah
23:35.00OpelSpeedsterThey'll still need to be careful though
23:35.06OpelSpeedsterSo don't go overboard
23:35.19Roboticking45I know
23:35.42Roboticking45i think keeping it around 6.1 to 7 trillion would suffice?
23:35.52OpelSpeedsterProbably, yeah
23:36.03Roboticking45ok thank you Opel
23:36.06dromYou can however make them able to withstand extreme conditions, given that you give a sensible explaination and background behind their capability.
23:36.17OpelSpeedster^
23:36.53Roboticking45And that would allow for faster populating of new colonies (save for the actual building of them/ terraforming to improve conditions)
23:37.09OpelSpeedsterThough, since they're cyborgs, I think the only extreme condition they can easily ignore is radiation
23:37.36OpelSpeedsterAnd maybe a higher tolerance of the cold
23:37.41OpelSpeedsterBut I'm not sure
23:37.48Roboticking45yes, and heat (since they developed their cybernetics to combat this)
23:37.53OpelSpeedsterMetal is easily affected by temperature
23:38.11OpelSpeedsterRoboticking45: Maybe not, the metal would increase its temperature faster than the organic part
23:38.25OpelSpeedsterIt'd be like sitting in a metal plate that's 45°C hot all day
23:38.25dromYou can also combat termperature using thermal insulation
23:38.46dromAny form, as long it works according to your explainations or theories
23:38.53Roboticking45certain metals are heat resistant (i.e. titanium etc.)
23:39.03OpelSpeedsterAh, nice.
23:39.14Roboticking45and the exoskeletons would need cooling systems to provide for their new forms
23:39.15OpelSpeedsterJust make sure that the metal you're using isn't too rare
23:40.35Roboticking45what about molybdenum
23:41.11Roboticking45i will raise th population from 7 to somewhere between 8-9 trillion due to the suits, 8.6 i think will suffice
23:41.47SpuIs that 8.6 trillion on a planet or across an entire empire
23:41.59Roboticking45across an entire empire
23:42.25SpuI was about to say
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23:42.37SpuI don't think even Orbispira has a population like that
23:42.49Roboticking45that would be insane to have that many people
23:43.09SpuSome planets have a population of 1 trillion + but they're ecumenopolis planets
23:43.09Liquid_InkActually Orbspira has a population of a hundred trillion.
23:43.18Spugeezush
23:43.22OpelSpeedsterWoah.
23:43.39OpelSpeedsterIs Orbspira some sort of Giga-Titan?
23:43.40dromIt would require a flawless infrastructure to sustain such population
23:43.46Liquid_InkConsidering the density of some Earth cities, an ecumenopolis with only one trillion is going to be awefully empty.
23:43.50OluapPlayer_That's bullshit but I believe it
23:43.51dromMore like a metropoli-planet
23:43.52SpuIt's an ecumenopolis planet
23:44.06OpelSpeedsterAh welp, I never heard of either definition
23:44.28SpuEcumenopolis = city-sized planet
23:44.34SpuFuck
23:44.37SpuI always mix that up
23:44.42SpuPlanet-sized city
23:44.52dromSufficient to call it a city-planet hur
23:45.01SpuCity-planet will do
23:45.03OluapPlayer_The Orbispira page makes no mention of its total population
23:45.13OluapPlayer_But it is described as "An ecumenopolis from the mantle to the crust"
23:45.18OluapPlayer_Could fit a few lots of people in that
23:45.25SpuSo it would have a few trillion at least
23:45.45Liquid_InkDamn you Cyrannian|Away why'd you have to flee so soon?
23:46.01OpelSpeedsterSpu: Well, KSP has city-sized planets, so...
23:46.22OluapPlayer_I don't make mention of populations on any of my fictions, as I don't really know how to work with population numbers
23:46.25drom... Kerbal Space Program? ... ??
23:46.26SpuConsidering most Kicathian ecumenopolis planets have a population of 2 trillion + without being built into the underground, Orbispira could be around 10 trillion
23:46.30OpelSpeedsterdrom: Yeah
23:46.30OluapPlayer_All of my empires have a population of "large enough"
23:46.36Roboticking45i have a slight inquiry, how many hive mind nations exist in the universe
23:46.38dromOh well
23:47.01SpuOnly the Ganthoreans come to mind on hivemind and I'm not entirely sure whether they are a hivemind
23:47.05OpelSpeedsterThe smallest body, Gilly, is only 26km wide
23:47.16OluapPlayer_They are, and currently are the only ones in Borealis
23:47.19OpelSpeedsterOnly a little bigger than the distance from where I live to downtown
23:47.21SpuI WAS RIGHT
23:47.39OluapPlayer_The Neraida Gigamatrix is also a hive mind
23:47.50SpuGoing back on ecumenopolis planets, Tauyachon-4 which is the Kicathian Andromeda Capital has a population of ~5.6 trillion
23:48.31OpelSpeedsterSpu: Are those city-planets bigger than normal planets, or they just use *every* single available space to build cities?
23:48.34OpelSpeedsterOr both?
23:48.45SpuBoth
23:48.50Liquid_InkAssuming a size similar to Earth, an ecumeneopolis with a population of 1 trillion will have an average  population density of 500/km^2
23:48.52OpelSpeedsterlmao
23:48.52OpelSpeedsterWelp
23:49.03OluapPlayer_Earth is considered small for a rock planet
23:49.22OpelSpeedsterAnd yet it is the biggest rock planet in our system
23:49.28OpelSpeedsterMakes me feel small
23:49.30Sputeeny tiny
23:49.44SpuTauyachon-4 is roughly twice the size of Earth according to its page
23:49.54dromI like to imagine Tolaai, Nomtarai Sovereignty's current captial, being an ecumenopolis.
23:50.31SpuPaclernos is actually smaller than Earth
23:50.37OluapPlayer_I have no ecumenopoli in my fiction since I don't really like the concept of them
23:50.42OluapPlayer_Not even Hyperborea is an ecumenopolis
23:50.56SpuThey work well for cyberpunk settings
23:51.00OpelSpeedsterYeah
23:51.04SpuWhich is why the Kicath have like 200 ecumenopolis planets hur
23:51.28OpelSpeedsterNo love for the environment hur
23:51.36OpelSpeedsterSpeaking about the environment
23:51.45OluapPlayer_Exactly why I don't do it
23:51.55SpuIt's a cultural thing I guess especially coming from a race that has absolutely no concept of empathy
23:51.56dromWhy bother having a worthless desert/barren planet when you can turn it into a ecumenopoli?
23:52.00droman*
23:52.03OpelSpeedsterHow do these civilizations manage the temperature and pollution of a ecumenopolis?
23:52.19Liquid_InkI imagine they dump it all in hyperspace.
23:52.34OpelSpeedsterDamn, must require really advanced tech
23:52.45OpelSpeedsterBut of course that shouldn't be much of a surprise
23:52.52OpelSpeedsterEven creating a city-planet is a heck of a task
23:53.04Liquid_InkNot really. If you don't have hyperspace or a similar technology, how are you even space-faring?
23:53.12OpelSpeedsterKilling off all the wildlife, destroying all plants, draining all seas, terraforming the land, then constructing so many buildings
23:53.18OpelSpeedsterHm, true
23:53.22OpelSpeedsterDidn't stop to think about that, derp
23:53.47OpelSpeedsterLiquid_Ink: Well, unless the species uses slower-than-light travel and is able to hibernate through the loooooong trips
23:53.52TechnobliteratorI don't know if I gave UNO one, but they'd probably never achieve one completely
23:53.56OpelSpeedsterAnd have really long lifespans to match
23:54.06Technobliteratorgiven that the Loron and Ioketa desperately need it
23:54.15Technobliteratornot to mention most of their minor species
23:54.28SpuThe Kicath are a high Tier 2 so I'd imagine having 200,000 years of technological advancement on their side along with multiple other overpowered factors I imagine maintaing an ecumenopolis planet is rather easy to them
23:54.36OpelSpeedsterYeah
23:54.39Liquid_InkIf they have to hibernate a long time, it'll impair their ability to interact in astropolitics
23:54.45OluapPlayer_Throw all the trash into the star
23:54.58SpuWell more like 170,000 years but I like to exaggerate
23:55.03dromTurn the trash into new battleships
23:55.07OpelSpeedsterOluapPlayer_: Why even bother when you can just send it into a crash course into your nearest gas giant?
23:55.17TechnobliteratorI really need to get back to MGSV...
23:55.22OpelSpeedsterOr uninhabitable planet when you don't have a gas giant?
23:55.37Liquid_InkOr just burn it for fuel?
23:55.38OpelSpeedsterOr just leave it in space if you don't have either
23:55.38OluapPlayer_Why not just hurl it at the nearest star?
23:55.46OpelSpeedsterLiquid_Ink: That works too
23:55.55dromWell, one word:
23:55.58dromRecyclement
23:56.11SpuPaclernos is comparatively rural to planets like Anatezc-ji 0 or Tauyachon-4 however since the Kicath would amazingly prefer to preserve Paclernos' environment
23:56.19dromRecycling even
23:56.26SpuEven though Paclernos is relatively speaking a death-world to humans
23:56.31dromYa all need recycling
23:56.35OluapPlayer_Kicath - you try building over a xhodocto vault
23:56.38TechnobliteratorOr you can just, use nanomachines to reprocess all the material and use it again
23:56.40Roboticking45what tier do you think is capable of hyper space?
23:56.46OpelSpeedsterRoboticking45: Tier 4
23:56.46OluapPlayer_NANOMUSHEENS
23:56.53OpelSpeedsterActually Tier 5
23:57.05SpuDepends what kind of hyperspace you're on about I think
23:57.06OpelSpeedsterBut Tier 5 would be just discovering hyperspace, and on the lowest levels
23:57.15SpuIf you're talking like effortless intergalactic travel, Tier 1
23:57.23Roboticking45what would hyperspace be like on tier 3s and tier 2s?
23:57.29dromI believe that 5 to 4 is capable of hyper-drive, but not at an sustainable or efficient level
23:57.31OpelSpeedsterTier 6 has no hyperspace at all
23:57.41OpelSpeedsterWe're Tier 6 in real life sadly
23:57.45TechnobliteratorTier 2 should be fairly effortless, right?
23:57.49OpelSpeedsterYeah
23:57.51DrodoEmpireTier 3
23:58.05dromFor 3, it is more efficient, but it still costs
23:58.13Liquid_InkKeeping in mind the communal wormholes for intergalactic travel which appear to have become all the rage.
23:58.22DrodoEmpireWould be the generally accepted time where hyperspace is available. Tier 4 sometimes, and tier 5 probably not at all
23:58.29OpelSpeedsterRoboticking45: I imagine Tier 3 should be able to go through vast swathes of stars with ease, but crossing galactical arms would still be daunting
23:58.34dromBetween 2 and 1, costs of hyperdrive travel is completely trivial
23:58.35Roboticking45ah
23:58.42TechnobliteratorGenerally, most empires cut corners and just use wormholes and hyperspace to explain fast travel between worlds
23:58.46dromFor 0, "Hyperdrive? What hyperdrive?"
23:58.49OpelSpeedsterTier 2 would probably make going from one edge of a galaxy to another very easy
23:58.56OpelSpeedsterdrom: Pretty much
23:59.03TechnobliteratorConsidering, well, we don't actually have any FTL travel in real life, it's kinda impossible for any sci fi story to use realistic FTL
23:59.04SpuSantorakh - hyperdrive                               swiss cheese block you mean
23:59.08Roboticking45are hyperspace outposts still a thing?
23:59.17DrodoEmpireLiquid_Ink: I think they behave more like canals in that they're a "shortcut" usually under the administration of a national government or international body
23:59.28TechnobliteratorI hope we'll reach FTL travel at some point in our lifetimes
23:59.31Technobliterator;_;
23:59.36DrodoEmpireBut yeah they're fairly popular
23:59.38DrodoEmpireHopefully
23:59.39OluapPlayer_We probably won't
23:59.42OpelSpeedsterTechnobliterator: Unless we can find a cryogenics pod, dream on
23:59.45SpuNot sure how many civilisations actually have true hyperdrive travel on the wiki
23:59.48OpelSpeedsterAnd good luck finding a cryogenics pod.

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