IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150913

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00:11.15DrodoEmpireshakes himself awake
00:11.18DrodoEmpireWha...?
00:11.24Liquid_InkHello
00:11.35DrodoEmpireOh hi
00:11.45Liquid_InkHow are you?
00:11.55DrodoEmpireI'm fine. You?
00:12.02Liquid_InkPretty good
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00:44.10Wormy_Added a lot of recent info to this page http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Civilisation
00:44.42Wormy_And these:  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:AI_Netspace  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AMantisorac_Swarm
00:45.39DrodoEmpireI'll take a look
00:45.55DrodoEmpire"The Civilisation (also known as the Civilised Galaxy, Milky Way Cooperative or simply Civilisation)"
00:46.01DrodoEmpireOh so the rest isn't? *triggered*
00:47.35DrodoEmpireHmm... Seems good so far
00:49.24DrodoEmpireThough its actual organization seems rather nebulous
00:53.52Wormy_It would it run by stellar-scale superintelligences lol
00:53.56Wormy_*if
00:54.36DrodoEmpire:p
00:56.27Charles_MurrayThat part of the civilisation's always irked me, honestly
00:57.23Charles_MurrayOkay, just looked up the definition of "irk"
00:57.31Charles_MurrayDidn't mean to use that strong a word
01:00.08OfficerJackalCharles_Murray: Nah dude, you should have phrased it instead "That part of the civilisation's always pissed me off, honestly." much more polite and civilized! :D /s
01:00.24OfficerJackalJk hue
01:00.24DrodoEmpireOJ's got it right.
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01:00.54Wormy_It is odd, though the Cooperative was left with little choice once the superintelligences they created by accident took over it
01:01.06Charles_MurrayNah, I'd go for, "The Civilisation's tendency to look down on other nations who don't join it has raised my eyebrows more than once." Sorry about that
01:02.11Wormy_Now that you say that, "untamed wilderness" does come across that way.  Though its the AIs that call it "Civilisation"
01:09.15DrodoEmpiretest
01:09.53OfficerJackalDrodoEmpire: INFIDEL.
01:09.58OfficerJackal>:(
01:10.02DrodoEmpireD:
01:24.08Wormy_DrodoEmpire, Charles_Murray:  GC nearky happened years ago http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:SSA_Civil_War.png
01:33.02DrodoEmpireOh?
01:33.26DrodoEmpireWhy a screenshot? I suppose the original page was deleted?
01:33.49Wormy_it was yes
01:34.07Wormy_I still have the luxary of viewing deleted pages
01:34.13DrodoEmpireCool.
01:34.16DrodoEmpireWhy was it?
01:34.52Wormy_The fiction died and remained a stub, so it was considered non-canon
01:35.09DrodoEmpireAhh
01:35.47Wormy_That's the entire page right there
01:36.14DrodoEmpireJeez
01:36.17Wormy_I think it was incredibly unpopular at the time, too.  When the SSA was active
01:36.17DrodoEmpireReally is a stub
01:36.50DrodoEmpireAh
01:37.20Charles_MurrayWormy_ Wait, if you can view deleted pages, can you send me the content of the Fiction:Greater Hal'Sk Empire and all of its subpages to me?
01:37.53Wormy_I can undelete it if you like (if they are big pages, screenshots would be cumbersome)
01:40.02Charles_MurrayI was thinking in a pastie, but sure, that could work too
01:41.08Wormy_Oh, a pastie is fine
01:45.07Wormy_http://pastie.org/private/sw1gixahdzijs6lnevaw  http://pastie.org/private/qezmn13xs2iquz2faunq
01:45.13Charles_MurrayThank you so much
01:45.17Wormy_http://pastie.org/private/5lfjdxetkr1mfpvjaztw
01:49.49Wormy_bye
01:51.52OfficerJackalWAIT A SECOND HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE GREATER HAL'SK EMPIRE TEXT HOLY FUCK.
01:52.05OfficerJackalCHARLES_MURRAY: HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE.
01:52.16DrodoEmpire, confused, starts scurring about screaming "ALLAHU AKBAR"
01:52.38Charles_MurrayNeither did I
01:53.30Charles_MurrayAt least Drodo actually got the chant right. xD
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01:54.10OfficerJackal_Charles_Murray: A POWER OUTAGE CANNOT STIFLE MY EXCITEMENT.
01:54.13DrodoEmpirestarts throwing stuff around in a righteous, confused fury
01:54.33OfficerJackal_What was last said here?!
01:55.19Charles_Murray[21:52] <Charles_Murray> Neither did I [21:53] <Charles_Murray> At least Drodo actually got the chant right. xD
01:55.21DrodoEmpire[22:49] == Wormy_ [4e969ee8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.150.158.232] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [22:51] <OfficerJackal> WAIT A SECOND HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE GREATER HAL'SK EMPIRE TEXT HOLY FUCK. [22:52] <OfficerJackal> CHARLES_MURRAY: HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE. [22:52] * DrodoEmpire , confused, starts scurring about screaming "ALLAHU AKBAR" [22:52] <Charles_Murray> Neither did I [22:53] <Charles_Murray> At least
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03:30.36DrodoEmpireHello
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07:49.32Liquid_InkI need a word more dramatic than "old" but less dramatic than "ancient"
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09:09.25Liquid_InkWelcome back.
09:21.24AdmiralPandabrb
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09:28.28Liquid_InkWelcome back.
09:31.38AdmiralPandathanks again :P
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14:16.50HachimanHai even
14:17.59OluapPlayer~cuddle Hachiman
14:17.59infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
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14:39.41dino82_hello all!
14:41.14OluapPlayerHi dino
14:42.02dino82_Oluap! How is allz doing!
14:42.47HachimanHi
14:42.51HachimanDoing alright I suppose
14:45.05dino82_Great to hear :D
14:45.12dino82_Saw some nice updates and changes to the wiki
14:45.12dino82_neat
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15:12.19Charles_MurrayLast call for anyone who want to own French public debt. ^.^ After this, I'm putting the data on the page
15:17.48Charles_Murray*poke*
15:18.16DrodoEmpireQuick! Invest your shekels now!
15:18.35Charles_MurrayIt's actually an opportunity to profit, believe it or not. xD
15:19.48Hachiman>Debt
15:19.50Hachiman>Profit
15:19.52HachimanHow dis
15:20.08Technobliteratoroh, hey charles
15:20.16Technobliteratorwe haven't done much on the GXS stuff lately
15:20.28Charles_MurrayHey! I'd be glad to
15:20.51TechnobliteratorI'm free all day
15:21.02TechnobliteratorThe only thing I was planning on doing today was going to the gym, and I've just been :p
15:21.06Charles_MurrayHachiman : The short of it is that you buy a bond of mine, giving money in the short term. I'm due to repay you in a set number of years plus interest.
15:21.55HachimanOh right
15:22.32TechnobliteratorUNO would oppose because "ew fuck capitalism" and they're enemies with France anyway
15:22.34OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AKunni'ghan chek
15:22.37TechnobliteratorBillig might be interested though
15:22.37Technobliterator:o
15:22.45Charles_Murray*plasters poster* MARIANNE WANTS YOU, TO BUY WAR BONDS
15:24.40Charles_MurrayOooh. Basically, it's a low risk, low-yield investment. Government bonds are a good place to put your money when it's not doing anything, and whether you invest in French war bonds specifically reflects whether you have confidence in the French Colonial government's ability to repay it in 5-10 years
15:26.58Charles_MurrayAnd the interest of French Colonial bonds specifically might be higher than most, since there is a risk of the French Colonial government failing.
15:27.11Charles_Murray(falling to the DCP)
15:27.54TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, quoted
15:28.26TechnobliteratorCharles_Murray, I can imagine Billig being interested in anything that expands his influence around the universe and earns him money, so I'm sure Oltauris Consortium would be fine with it
15:28.38TechnobliteratorThis could also be what triggers UNO to actually go to war with France
15:29.07OluapPlayerHow's the page?
15:29.20TechnobliteratorVery good
15:29.32TechnobliteratorI like the idea of the pod as strong as a tank
15:30.27TechnobliteratorI also think it's interesting that his speech is speculated to "blur out" to non-native speakers
15:30.49Charles_MurrayFrance's public debt is currently estimated at 300 trillion Mimidian credit, most of it owed to sovereign governments. Any idea how much Billig would buy (is he using the organization's funds, or his own?)?
15:31.49OluapPlayerHe's a weird guy basically
15:31.51TechnobliteratorBillig owns Oltauris, so he'd likely use theirs. I think he'd be able to afford a large amount, but, about 50 trillion could do? Then again, I don't know what the Borealis Credit conversion rate is or anything
15:32.34Technobliteratoralso, would Kunni consider Gol'thabex his enemy, if he left the Thugz?
15:32.59OluapPlayerNot really
15:33.23OluapPlayerHe didn't leave out of hate, he just thought they were not strong enough for him
15:34.10OluapPlayerI doubt they have ever met in the first place
15:35.35TechnobliteratorFair enough
15:35.53TechnobliteratorI've also edited Zr'Ahgloth's relations, to show a stronger hatred for Da Rogue Boyz
15:36.04TechnobliteratorSince, well, arch enemies and all
15:36.23Technobliteratord
15:36.28Technobliteratorkeep forgetting shu's new name
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15:40.21OluapPlayerYou don't really have to list Shu'rimrodir anymore, in the current canon Zr'Ahgloth has never met him
15:41.38Charles_MurrayTechnobliterator : Dere http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7d/French_Public_Debt.png/revision/latest?cb=20150913154120
15:41.40Technobliteratorfair enough
15:41.51TechnobliteratorCharles_Murray, that's good, yeah
15:42.29Technobliteratorwould Kunni quote fre'kloar's page as well?
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15:43.24OluapPlayerWhen I get around to
15:43.27OluapPlayer~kick Cyrannian
15:43.27infobotACTION kicks Cyrannian
15:43.32Charles_MurrayCyrannian - c http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7d/French_Public_Debt.png/revision/latest?cb=20150913154120
15:43.38Cyrannian~explode OluapPlayer
15:43.38infobotACTION blows up OluapPlayer with bombs
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15:44.14CyrannianCharles_Murray: Very nice, you could add the ATR if you wish
15:44.58Charles_MurrayOh cool! The ATR would allow France to owe it money?
15:45.07OluapPlayerwaptor update paegs to reflect war ending grrrr
15:47.54CyrannianCharles_Murray: If you'd like, probably not a lot though
15:48.10CyrannianOluapPlayer: rite, update your pages too
15:48.23OluapPlayerMine are all up to date tho
15:48.53OluapPlayerExcept maybe the Tiranozark ones
15:49.16CyrannianAnd Sir Thaur the Sneaky
15:49.47OluapPlayerThaur - im the only one here who cares for all the things who could kill us               Anteddy - nerd
16:00.58HachimanSo apparently Pope Francis, the 266th and current Pope of the Catholic Church, used to work as a nightclub bouncer in Buenos Aires, Argentina, prior to his career as a Catholic priest
16:13.02OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1442160082733.jpg
16:13.11Hachimanhur
16:13.36Technobliteratorhahaha
16:13.55OluapPlayerspeaking of which, how's MGSV going?
16:15.38Wormy_Cyrannian, Ghelae, Technobliterator, Hachiman:  Robot declares we will be in a zoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIWWLg4wLEY&feature=youtu.be&t=2m30s
16:16.03Wormy_that's it then folks
16:16.21CyrannianOh wow, that's creepy
16:16.27OluapPlayer>2011
16:16.30OluapPlayerHe's not doing a very good job
16:16.34Technobliteratorlol
16:16.38TechnobliteratorMGSV is good, yes
16:16.59TechnobliteratorI've gotten to the point where there's a virus spreading around Mother Base
16:17.05Technobliteratorso I'm scared to play
16:17.28OluapPlayerDid you fight Sahelanthropus yet?
16:25.21OluapPlayerdum
16:29.33CyrannianOh all forms of updating, changing empires to the past tense when they're ded is by far the worst
16:30.07Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Imperial_State - dere, if anyone sees any mistakes, feel free to do my job for me
16:31.56OluapPlayerYou forgot to update the History section you poop
16:32.47CyrannianI'm doing that now stinky
16:33.44Charles_MurrayDun : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFrench_Colonial_Empire#Debt
16:35.43TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, I "fought" it ages ago, but the fight only consists of running away and hiding from it
16:35.53OluapPlayerAh
16:35.54TechnobliteratorI'm sure there's a proper fight later
16:35.56OluapPlayerSo no you didn't :v
16:36.30OluapPlayerYes, you will have to fight it head-on, and since you're having the parasite outbreak now, I assume you're quite close
16:36.43TechnobliteratorPossibly, yeah
16:36.51Technobliteratoralso Oltauris needs an icon
16:36.59OluapPlayerGood luck with that hur
16:50.30OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: https://fat.gfycat.com/QuaintHatefulFoal.webm A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR
16:51.56Technobliteratorhahahaha
16:52.00HachimanJesus
16:52.09HachimanLooks like Venom learned something from Ocelot
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16:53.06Wormy_https://www.facebook.com/slapwank/photos/a.577109995760412.1073741828.544869872317758/590096031128475/?type=1
16:54.02Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/UCgFvpv http://imgur.com/gallery/hSVOYM1 http://imgur.com/gallery/Pet193x
16:54.24Wormy_HI
16:54.34OluapPlayerThe dongbridge
16:54.40OluapPlayerWormy can you rp?
16:54.56Wormy_YEP
16:54.59Wormy_caps
16:55.04HachimanXho: http://w.webms.org/ZAL7QTjj.webm
16:55.07OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Can you rp?
16:55.26XhoHachiman: 10/10
16:55.59TechnobliteratorI can
16:56.08OluapPlayerneato
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17:02.16Wormy_I reloaded titanpad and got this https://titanpad.com/undefined
17:03.23Charles_Murrayo.o
17:05.19TekDroid...
17:05.58XhoI dare someone to mix that into a death metal song
17:07.04Charles_MurraySomeone's done it already, I imagine.
17:08.25DrodoEmpireWhat
17:08.28DrodoEmpireWhat the fuck is that
17:08.43DrodoEmpire>.<
17:11.02Wormy_Can't get clean
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17:59.14Charles_BotI'm wondering how we can represent democracy more in fiction and on fiction pages. The challenge of lining up formidable contenders to vulnerable seats, of defending the party's own seats, of maintaining party cohesion, and of the different voices and visions trying to pull the country one way or another, all of that is incredibly difficult to portray, I've
17:59.14Charles_Botfound...
17:59.41Charles_BotPlus all of the other contentions of democracy not mentioned above
18:01.24Charles_BotAny ideas/thoughts?
18:05.05DrodoEmpireHmm
18:05.41DrodoEmpireI think it comes down to quality of writing a lot
18:05.57DrodoEmpireIt *is* really hard to portray and I see no easy way to make it easier or more consistent
18:06.57Charles_BotI'd like to find a template that represents that kind of interaction in a visual and appealing way
18:07.18DrodoEmpireFair enough
18:07.33HachimanNeeds more fiction about politicians mercilessly combating one another for government supremacy
18:08.49OluapPlayerManly shirtless presidential brawl
18:09.19DrodoEmpireBest government form 2015
18:10.12Charles_BotPutin stronk
18:13.57TechnobliteratorCharles_Bot, I did bits of this with http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFederal_Government_of_Ottzello#Government
18:14.21TechnobliteratorOf course, both parties were strongly right-wing parties :P
18:14.45Wormy_Parliamentry brawls are the best.  The Queen's sceptre has been waved about in anger in ours before.
18:15.00DrodoEmpirelul
18:15.46OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#The_Freezing_Blizzards_of_Auzarkov First Overworld fight is published
18:17.14Charles_BotTechnobliterator: ooooooooh! I love the detail
18:20.34CyrannianNice work Oluap, the Hemorrhagic Torture of Valirigan sounds particularly delightful
18:20.54Hachiman>Hemorrhagic
18:20.55HachimanFuck
18:21.04OluapPlayerIt's an Overworld which makes you start start itching
18:21.06OluapPlayerand then bleeding
18:21.11OluapPlayerfrom every orifice in your body
18:21.24Cyrannianew
18:21.40OluapPlayerThat's why you don't go to any Overworld without very good armor
18:22.13OluapPlayerHachiman Xho: chek fog war section
18:24.47HachimanJust finished it
18:24.51HachimanVery good section I'll say
18:25.22HachimanAuzarkov was pretty damn intimidating, cannot really imagine how the other Overworlds behave
18:25.39OluapPlayerSimilarly angry and unfriendly
18:25.55HachimanAlso where the Hell is Imp
18:26.00Technobliteratorbrb
18:26.28OluapPlayerbeing dum and not writing his section, evidentlyu
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18:46.03DrodoEmpireHey!
18:47.04dino82_well hello everyone :D
18:47.09dino82_How is all doingzz?
18:47.18DrodoEmpireGood, goo
18:47.20DrodoEmpire*good
18:47.22CyrannianDino!
18:47.28dino82_Great to hear :D
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18:51.29OluapPlayerGoddamnit
19:02.03dino82_?
19:02.56OluapPlayerIRC went down for me
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19:07.06DrodoEmpireHello
19:12.32dino82_ah ok
19:12.58NoblaSourEmpirehey drodo
19:13.05DrodoEmpireHello
19:13.19NoblaSourEmpirei am reading about th Farengeto 2800 elections
19:13.36DrodoEmpireCool
19:14.33NoblaSourEmpirewho would you vote for?
19:15.06HachimanSo according to ScrewAttack - a channel and site that runs a series called Death Battles, which pits characters from separate series against each other - Raiden from MGS is able to defeat Wolverine from X-Men, and Solid Snake from MGS is able to defeat Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell
19:16.48OluapPlayerGood for them who cares hur
19:17.31HachimanWell in honesty I'd have thought Wolverine would have been the victor in the Raiden vs. Wolverine match-up given how many fucking superpowers Wolverine seems to have
19:19.36HachimanInvincible bones, fast rate of regeneration, enhanced senses and physical capabilities, a "berserker rage", can communicate with animals, has fought demon lords and won
19:19.58HachimanMakes me wonder how the writers of comic books are able to actually challenge their characters
19:22.18XhoOluapPlayer: Shu'suvreca - eet?              yeh EET
19:22.55HachimanXho: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12011405_756530247827096_1580991658643518062_n.jpg?oh=78fd547fac44314b168730c626103373&oe=569D561F
19:23.07XhoJOHN CENA
19:23.17OluapPlayermore like terrible
19:23.32XhoYeah I don't actually like John Cena that much
19:24.29HachimanI find it funny plus I give credit to Cena for the amount of work and contribution he puts towards the Make A Wish Foundation
19:24.42Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfl1/v/t1.0-0/q92/p480x480/11986467_1359881710707945_1909020775869234578_n.jpg?oh=4d05267ce286d7a7ae7da39d0984ffd0&oe=569F28D5&__gda__=1449428389_a671902158466b7496612fef4078e687
19:24.45OluapPlayerIt's shit and so is your taste hur
19:25.34HachimanSays the guy who likes Baneposting despite it being old
19:26.03OluapPlayerAre you saying Baneposting is bad because it's old
19:26.03Hachimanliterally supports crashin threads wiv no survivors
19:26.29HachimanI was not saying Baneposting is bad but it is old at this point
19:26.41HachimanAnd you are not one for old memes hur
19:26.44OluapPlayerIt is and that means jack shit, it's still funny hur
19:27.03OluapPlayerExcept I am, I've expressed my dislike for the current fads at many occasions
19:27.18HachimanPepe is older than Baneposting though
19:27.35OluapPlayerPepe was shit from the start
19:27.55OluapPlayerBaneposting was good from the start and is still good
19:28.05HachimanYou haven't even seen the movie hur
19:28.08XhoI've never actually seen a banepost
19:28.17OluapPlayerYou don't need to see the movie to Banepost hur
19:28.23Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum - Sequel to the NCW by Dino and I
19:28.24XhoCHEEKI BREEKI is still good though
19:28.32OluapPlayerAH NU
19:28.36HachimanVI DAMKE
19:28.39Xhoiv*
19:28.45Hachimanfug
19:28.47XhoOr i v*
19:29.16dino82_@Cyrannian: anyone is welcome for cross-overs or plots :D
19:29.18HachimanCHEEKI BREEKI will always have a place in my heart hur
19:32.08Hachiman"David Cameron says Britain is prepared for nuclear attacks from North Korea. ... Dave mate, we aren't even prepared for snow in Winter."
19:32.38OluapPlayerI wish I could progress my own sequels
19:32.42OluapPlayerBut I'm surrounded by lazis
19:34.20dino82_@Oluap: You can join this one as well if you want :D
19:34.51XhoNu - man u all gotta chill
19:35.02OluapPlayerMe and Cyrannian already have some story ideas
19:36.15dino82_Great :D
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19:45.24DrodoEmpireHi
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19:48.29dino82_hello random
19:49.32HachimanTechnobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_XwzBMTJaM
19:49.53Technobliteratorooh
19:50.32TechnobliteratorI cannot wait
19:53.07TechnobliteratorWhen does this game release damnit
19:53.38HachimanNovember 10th, 2015 according to the description
19:53.51HachimanSo less than two months from now
19:58.17XhoSame day as Fallout 4
19:58.26HachimanOh boy
19:58.28XhoThat might put a dent in their sales
19:58.37XhoMight not
19:58.43HachimanI wonder what shall become of Zeratul as of Legacy of the Void
20:07.06dino82_nice trailer
20:19.00DrodoEmpiretest
20:28.14dino82_bye bye
20:28.16dino82_till next time :d
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20:50.33Hachimanhur
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21:03.18Xhohttps://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/642984909980725248 Hypocrisy at its greatest
21:04.27The_RandomnessWhat sort of tweet is that?
21:04.29The_Randomnessgoodness
21:05.40XhoProbably the dumbest tweet a head of government could ever tweet
21:05.50Cyranniandum how is a threat to national security
21:05.53Cyrannian*is it
21:06.02The_RandomnessOh, is he the UK's PM?
21:06.05XhoYes
21:06.20The_RandomnessHe's going to receive so much shit for that
21:07.30HachimanCameron acting as professional as ever
21:08.41HachimanLabour will eventually seat one of their own as the future Prime Minister, especially now that Ed Miliband is no longer in the running
21:09.28XhoYeah
21:09.43XhoCameron can't use the 'previous Labour government ruined the country' excuse for much longer
21:10.01HachimanJeremy Corbyn looks to be a candidate for the next British election now that he heads the Labour Party
21:10.17XhoWell yeah heads of parties are always candidates
21:10.22HachimanWell I meant
21:10.31HachimanCorbyn looks to be a popular figure
21:11.37XhoI certainly support his renationalisation ideas
21:11.41HachimanAye
21:12.00XhoPrivatising public services is bloody idiotic
21:12.17HachimanEspecially considering Corbyn apparently aims to abolish tuition fees and renewing student grants
21:12.35The_Randomness(y)
21:13.01XhoI'm not too supportive on the raising taxes for higher wage earners
21:13.14XhoIf you're earning that kind of money you should have the right to keep a sizeable portion of it
21:13.27HachimanMiddle class workers do not get that opportunity though
21:13.43XhoI might be a little biased since my dad earns six figures but still
21:14.04XhoWell the tax parameters are a little odd as it is
21:14.31XhoI think the taxes have a large 35% barrier, like £40,000 or something then jumps to 45% after that
21:14.40HachimanYeah
21:15.01XhoBut I'm not too sure whether Corbyn is actually a good politician
21:15.27HachimanI am not quite so fond on his stance towards absolute nuclear disarmament considering the efficiency of nuclear deterrence
21:15.45XhoYou can say you want to do those things but there's a lot of things that affect the public afterwards
21:16.17HachimanI doubt Corbyn will ever be able to do a job as horrendous as Blair
21:16.19TechnobliteratorCorbyn is definitely a good politican, there's no doubt about that
21:16.44TechnobliteratorAs for his stance towards nuclear disarmament, I am fully in support of it, and nuclear deterrence is completely unsafe
21:16.53XhoBlair was actually not a bad PM
21:16.57TechnobliteratorI'm in support of most of his policies
21:16.57XhoUntil the Iraq War
21:17.00TechnobliteratorNo, Blair was awful
21:17.08TechnobliteratorBlair fucked his party and country over
21:17.11TechnobliteratorThen bailed on us
21:17.34CyrannianHe did a lot for the Irish peace process, so that's a good thing
21:17.55XhoBlair was responsible for a lot of things that benefited the country
21:17.57TechnobliteratorAnd David Cameron's just terrified of Labour actually having a chance so he's using fearmongering
21:18.09TechnobliteratorBecause he's trying to make the country as terrified of them as he is
21:18.09XhoMinimum wage, polticial devolution
21:18.09Technobliterator8D
21:18.20XhoLarge investments in the public sector
21:18.30HachimanI do not think that modern first world nations are settled enough to instigate a total nuclear disarmament
21:18.40XhoThe Iraq War was just a ridiculously bad thing on his part
21:19.14HachimanI support nuclear deterrence because you should have nukes and not have to use them rather than need them and not have them
21:19.48OluapPlayerHot Coldman pls go
21:19.56Hachimanfuk off
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21:20.47HachimanI mean the current state of global affairs is shifting more towards civil conflicts than global ones so there is some justification behind easing on nuclear deterrence
21:21.54TechnobliteratorThere is no justification behind having any nuclear weapons
21:22.13CyrannianApparently he favours Britain becoming a republic
21:22.36TechnobliteratorPfft
21:22.38TechnobliteratorWho doesn't
21:22.42HachimanEh, I am unsure, deterrence is the most appropriate form of peace in our current society
21:24.29XhoIf there's no justification for nuclear weapons what's the justification for war in the first place
21:24.58XhoWait that doesn't make any sense
21:25.02XhoWithdraw that
21:25.38TechnobliteratorThere is no justification for war either
21:25.38Technobliterator8D
21:25.41GhelaeIf we didn't have war we would certainly not need nuclear weapons. Well, yeah.
21:25.50HachimanAs horrendous as the incidents were, the nuclear bombings of Japan lulled the country into peacetime with the West and the rest of Asia
21:26.31HachimanIt is likely the Japanese government at the time would not have surrendered until an outright Western invasion on homeland territory occured and would have caused far more damage
21:27.08GhelaeThe problem with things like this is we can't do any kind of rigorous testing. We can't have two parallel Earths, one where the UK has nukes and one where it doesn't, or one where Japan was nuked and one where it wasn't, and compare how things turned out in each.
21:27.30DrodoEmpireBut we can still predict, and use historical documents. :p
21:27.48XhoThe Japanese were actually worse than the Nazis from what I recall
21:27.53XhoIn terms of war criminality
21:28.01GhelaeOh yes, we can make good educated guesses.
21:28.03DrodoEmpireLike there was a projection done by the US military where it predicted that US casualties alone would number over 400 000.
21:28.04HachimanI would say they were definitely comparable
21:28.11DrodoEmpireAnd Japanese deaths well into the millions
21:28.37DrodoEmpireNuclear weapons are terrible, but in this very specific case they were the slightly lesser evil as I see it
21:28.44DrodoEmpireI cannot say the same elsewhere
21:28.52XhoBut now the Japanese have a similar government to the UK
21:29.54HachimanYes; by prediction and historical record, I am willing to believe that total global peacetime is not achievable by any merit thus there will most likely largely be need for some form of deterrence in our future
21:30.33HachimanI do support utilising nuclear energy for other facilities beyond merely weaponry however given its efficiency
21:31.37DrodoEmpire^
21:31.55XhoJapan isn't a perfect nation by far though
21:32.25XhoIt's demographically fucked up and the leading cause of death in Japan for under 30s is suicide
21:32.36TechnobliteratorI wouldn't go on history for that when military spending is decreasing
21:32.40GhelaeEven if you consider the spread of radioactive materials into the environment you can easily argue that nuclear power is hugely better than fossil fuels.
21:32.41HachimanYeah, Japan suffers from a great deal of social problems pertaining to society, prejudice, and inequality
21:33.11XhoDue to the aging population, Japan's population is going to decrease by 35 million in the next 30 years
21:33.38Xhowhich is not gud
21:33.51OluapPlayerjaps gon dai
21:34.02HachimanThe aging population and the consistent series of natural catastrophes that Japan suffers from
21:36.24XhoAs for xenophobia, it's more against the Chinese and Koreans than any other race
21:36.33OluapPlayerXho Hachiman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COvJxr-WgAAY-Lv.png
21:36.45Hachimanolol
21:36.48Xhoolol indeed
21:37.11OluapPlayerSantorakh's alter ego
21:37.22XhoBack when I went to Japan I found that pretty much every Japanese person I was to come into contact with were nice
21:37.59HachimanProbably because you are part of the minority of Western foreigners who come into Japan for tourism
21:38.11XhoPretty much yeah
21:38.42HachimanWesterners from English-speaking countries tend to have a bad reputation while touring other countries, including other English-speaking countrues
21:38.45Hachimancountries even
21:39.03OluapPlayerfukin brits with their bad teeth and tea breath ruin everyfin
21:39.40HachimanAmericans are similar hur
21:39.50OluapPlayerAmericans have burger breath, not tea
21:39.56XhoThe Japanese are mainly nice though as a nation they're still lack racial diversity
21:40.14HachimanWell they were an isolated state less than two centuries ag
21:40.16Hachimanago even
21:40.24XhoFrom memory the group I was travelling in was the only 'white' group in plain sight
21:40.33XhoEveryone else was Japanese
21:41.23XhoThat and my attempts to speak Japanese probably rubbed off well on them
21:41.24HachimanThey have not had the same degree or time for racial integration as Western and other Asian countries have
21:42.19HachimanThey were divided between familial clans and had comparatively lacking technology until the late 1800s
21:42.34HachimanThey advanced technologically but not so much socially
21:42.37XhoTrue
21:42.47XhoA great deal of Japanese people are very friendly though
21:43.12XhoJapan is a place I'd like to live in if I was financially secure
21:43.43XhoThough it's a hot country for most of the year
21:43.50HachimanGood luck maintaining a career there
21:43.57XhoYeah not gonna happen hur
21:44.22XhoI went there in November and it was still poking into the 20s in central Japan
21:44.22HachimanThere is a reason why suicide is the highest cause of death hur
21:45.11OluapPlayerJaps are sick of everyone else and just kill themselves
21:45.46XhoI feel like doing that sometimes
21:46.03XhoEspecially waking up at 6:30 in the morning to go to work
21:46.28OluapPlayersociety.jpg
21:48.10XhoJapan's transport system though
21:48.26XhoIt absolutely and utterly craps on every other transport system in the world
21:49.24XhoExpensive though
21:49.29XhoGood reason
21:49.44HachimanBullet train?
21:50.51XhoYup
21:53.06XhoBut Japan otherwise is very cost effective
21:53.14XhoYou can eat a full meal for about £10
21:54.11HachimanHuh sweet
21:55.07XhoFor the most part the transport infrastructure is solid but complicated
21:55.18XhoSo things like rail passes are a good idea
21:55.39XhoThe one I had was about £150
21:58.41XhoThey're also very stringent about hygiene which is a given
22:01.01OluapPlayerdirty gaijins
22:01.34XhoThey're also uptight on physical contact
22:01.38XhoMy kind of place really
22:02.45OluapPlayer"everyone is antisocial like me"
22:03.27Xhoyeh
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