IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150910

00:10.10Wormy_fictionTechnobliterator:  Are our bots sufficient enough to change links?  I feel like the "Milky Way Cooperative" is a more appropriate title for the Cooperative, but this link count would take hours http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Fiction:The_Civilisation?limit=500
00:11.57Wormy_fictionI might just leave it actually
00:17.49OluapCollegeHers and Cyrannian's bot can change links
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00:52.34DrodoEmpireBack.
00:53.20The_RandomnessBad joke time
00:53.27The_RandomnessWhy are there no transvestites in space?
00:53.51The_RandomnessBecause there's no drag in a vacuum!
00:53.52The_Randomness:^)
00:57.30DrodoEmpireyoo rofl
00:59.29The_RandomnessThat's the best pun I've seen in a while
01:08.14Wormy_fictionhah hah clogged the rc http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?limit=500
01:08.29The_RandomnessHeh
01:10.46Wormy_fictionThats just a fraction of the number of links for The Civilisation if I wanted to change to MW Cooperative
01:11.04Wormy_fictionI think I'll bully someone into using their bot for that
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02:22.41NoblaSourEmpireMy captains page is done!
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03:08.18NoblaSourEmpirehey guys
03:08.21NoblaSourEmpirewhats up?
03:13.40Charles_MurrayHey!
03:13.48Charles_MurrayJust finished a bunch of fiction work
03:14.16Charles_MurrayUpdated this page with the latest developments: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alexandre_Valéry
03:14.17Charles_MurrayYou?
03:17.04Charles_MurrayNoblaSourEmpire
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04:11.26Charles_Murraylol
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09:20.38AdmiralPandahi all
09:20.41Liquid_InkYO
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12:23.09Wormy_hi
12:30.23GhelHello.
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12:31.46GhelHello.
12:31.55OluapPlayerHi
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12:48.58Wormy_hi
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13:32.55Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/63/PaclernosCity.png/revision/latest?cb=20150910132214 And Paclernos looks more or less like the rest of Kicathian major worlds
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13:37.35OluapPlayerKicath - all da same
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13:57.12Xhohttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10505580_1643646495849891_7784318523329023695_n.jpg?oh=3d9e65e0f7df6274fa78c20902c4f300&oe=56784142
13:58.25OluapPlayerhur
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14:47.58Charles_MurrayFinally caught up with Alexandre's history xD http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alexandre_Valéry
14:51.27Wormy_We are lucky we have a great illustrator who makes works for free
14:51.37Charles_Murray^^^
14:52.05Charles_MurrayWhat do you think of the page so far?
14:52.10Charles_Murray(And of the character?)
14:55.24Wormy_Its quite interesting how he created a title of Emperor
15:07.12Wormy_I'm going to make a crumble out of ground up bone and a compote of hearts and liver.
15:08.08GhelawayHuman bone, heart and liver, I hope.
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15:13.00Wormy_awayoh this will be to die for
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15:32.00JepardiHi
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15:46.06dino82_hello all
15:47.51CyrannianHello dino!
15:47.58dino82_hi how is allz doing
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15:49.42CyrannianHai Xho
15:49.50Xhomeow
15:50.22Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Delin_Lassiter - New Imperial errbody
15:50.50XhoPurple
15:52.45Xho"Irritatng yokel"
15:52.52XhoMust say that's a new one on me
15:52.55CyrannianShe often sings "I love you, you love me, we're a happy family" after battles
15:53.30XhoI didn't get that for a sec
15:54.55Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/63/PaclernosCity.png/revision/latest?cb=20150910132214 I did another picture earlier, nothing special
15:55.02XhoKicathian architectural planning is not particularly imaginative
15:56.28CyrannianIt looks very impressive
15:56.47OluapPlayer~kick Cyrannian
15:56.47infobotACTION kicks Cyrannian
15:57.02Cyrannian~dropkick OluapPlayer
15:57.02infobotACTION sends OluapPlayer flying like a yipping chihuahua
15:57.18XhoI need to do another map for Paclernos
15:57.26XhoHm how to do this
15:57.45OluapPlayeru dont
15:57.52Xhodai
15:58.07CyrannianOluapPlayer: check out lesbian captain dinosaur lady
15:58.25OluapPlayer>lesbian
15:58.29OluapPlayerI must have missed that part
15:59.30Cyrannianaye, I'm modern like that
15:59.37Cyrannian"Lassiter is immensely proud of the Imperial Navy as an institution of the Empire and though she views it as the closest thing to a family she has ever had, she makes sure to visit her wife and children on Arnoario whenever she is on leave."
15:59.52OluapPlayerOh
16:00.04OluapPlayerSneaky enough for me to not notice
16:00.31OluapPlayerThat's ghey done right
16:00.58Cyrannianindeed
16:01.37OluapPlayerBut yeah, good page
16:01.40OluapPlayerI like her cape
16:02.56CyrannianThanks, I only discovered that part could be used as a cape recently
16:04.58OluapPlayerfinish siege of hitlerland grrrr
16:05.21CyrannianDino and I are writing for it now stinky
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16:09.32dromhttp://i.imgur.com/hhMschg.png
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16:15.43dromClever usage of The Guardians' rating hah
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16:15.44dromhttp://i.imgur.com/QKneRrq.jpg
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16:18.58dromOfficerJackal TekDroid: Old gold http://imgur.com/gallery/4AMdJ
16:20.23OfficerJackalEhuehuehue.
16:31.15dromCyrannian Xho http://i.imgur.com/BezPXGp.webm
16:33.55TekDroidO.o
16:42.07dromWormy_away: Firefox Mobile http://i.imgur.com/X7MVd3w.jpg
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17:11.12dromso "dank christian memes" is apparently a thing now
17:28.12dromCyrannian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhjNxPeyujI
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17:39.48HachimanHai
17:40.21CyrannianHi
17:41.50Wormy_awaydrom:  I see you beat me to posting theser to you
17:42.00Wormy_awayThis crumble took hours to make
17:44.26Wormy_awayBut it is one shot diabeetus
17:46.39Wormy_awaydiabeeetssshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPAQFck9XHQ
17:46.43Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPAQFck9XHQ
17:49.58dromWormy_away: hur
17:50.30Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Siege_of_Vasuband#The_Mandator_and_the_Agent - For those who haven't seen
17:55.34dromWormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/QC6f7x8.jpg
17:56.26dromCyrannian: I loron-ifed that a bit for you http://i.imgur.com/Sx1Dwzm.png
17:57.14Cyrannianhur
17:58.26dromhttp://i.imgur.com/mYJnVTV.png
18:03.02drom"Please, Grand Mandator. Shiiit, dis aint no joke. I be reasonably Kool & Tha Gang dat you made dat up. Or at least... I certainly hope you done did."
18:03.59CyrannianAre you using a generator or something? :P
18:04.10dromYeah
18:04.33drom"Come on! Yo ass can rest when you dead dawwwg!"
18:05.31dromPerhaps one of the best I've found in the new section: "I assume you tha straight-up original gangsta one ta exit tha shuttle. That way, yo' chest shieldz will protect mah dirty ass n' tha others from injury."
18:06.45Charles_MurrayNot sure what would happen if you did that with my fiction. xD
18:07.13Charles_MurrayDetailed political intrigue rendered in gangsta speak would be interesting
18:07.57dromCharles_Murray: Input a page of your choice and your wish will be fullfilled
18:08.28Charles_MurrayTry a more recent one: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Mirusian_Coalition xD
18:08.39drom"downtown Outa Rim"
18:08.40dromfuck
18:08.42dromI lost my shit
18:10.45dromCharles_Murray: There you go: http://i.imgur.com/KwOil2k.png
18:12.04Charles_Murray"Da Second Battle of Mirusian Coalition be a cold-ass lil complex three-way armed conflict"
18:13.10Charles_Murray"Beginnin on June 1, 2803, tha war be a gangbangin' finger-likin' continuation of tha First Battle of Mirusian Coalition" xD
18:13.13dromhttp://i.imgur.com/JFYaRBQ.png
18:13.40Charles_Murray"whcih saw the straight up legit withdrawal of the Xonexi Allies from tha Mirus Galaxy)
18:13.42Charles_Murray"
18:15.19Charles_Murraylol
18:16.20drom"Perhaps da most thugged-out unlikely participant up in tha Sovereign Mirusian Coalizzle was Imperator Caligustus of tha Imperium of War, n' fo' phat reason. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Reputed fo' his outright rejection of diplomacy n' adherence ta a cold-ass lil creed of eternal, unendin war wit his neighbors, dat shiznit was almost unthinkable dat da thug would join his bangin rivals up in confrontin a larger foe. Yet, Dragowar
18:16.21dromtroops had fought alongside other Mirusian forces durin tha First War, markin a sudden shift up in his cold-ass tactics. Even mo' encouragin was his subsequent gift of tha chizzlest bitz of territory dat schmoooove muthafucka had acquired up in tha Treaty of Manticore ta tha Bygorians up in return fo' positizzle relations. Da Dragowarz return ta diplomacy was lauded up in internationistic circlez as a triumph, not least by representativez of tha
18:16.21dromSovereign Mirusian Coalition. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Yet, unknown ta all, tha Imperator Caligustus had pledged his dirty ass ta darker mastas than his fuckin lil' doctrinez of unendin conflict."
18:17.47drom"Frizzle joins tha tray"
18:17.52dromfray*
18:17.54Charles_MurrayOdere
18:18.02dromYeah, Frizzle is France is in this case
18:19.19dromI wonder I can ganstra-ify the Loron to a more extreme point
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18:23.23drom_I'll give up the page for everyone to witness
18:23.24drom_http://gizoogle.net/tranzizzle.php?search=http%3A%2F%2Fspore.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FCreature%3ALoron&se=Go+Git+Dis+Shiznit
18:23.40drom_I used gizoogle.net/tranzizzle
18:25.04drom_"Natural fightas wit genes geared fo' combat, a single Loron arm has tha average juice of 10,000J (joules), n' two Loron arms have 18,000J; a single Loron punch can break bones n' penetrate exoskeletonz of nuff species. Put ya muthafuckin choppers up if ya feel dis!"
18:27.41dromCyrannian: http://imgur.com/gallery/MXe1L
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18:33.03Wormy_awaydrom http://imgur.com/gallery/HuCKnd9  http://imgur.com/gallery/ck2Cztb http://imgur.com/gallery/ApYPYbQ
18:33.12Wormy_awaybbl run
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18:39.40dromWormy_away: The bird one has been around for a quite while.
18:40.57drom<PROTECTED>
18:48.02dino82_http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d9/VasubandScionBattle.png/revision/latest?cb=20150910184701
18:48.09dino82_a new chapter for the Vasuband Rebellion
18:49.58dromBablisaur b gone
18:50.27HachimanSo apparently the 't' in the name of Lord Voldemort is actually silent when pronounced and comes from a French expression translating to "flight from death"
18:52.22Ghelawaydino82_: I predict the end of the story is going to see Tyermaillin eaten by the Benavylsaur.
18:53.04HachimanAye
18:53.52OluapPlayerA bit odd to have something like this in the final battle of the war
18:53.54XhoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
18:53.55OluapPlayerBut that's just me
18:54.58dino82_@Ghel: Whahaha, now that isn't a bad idea! Cyrannian! Whadda ya think :P
18:55.57CyrannianEither that or a Dvottie :P
18:56.00XhoHm anything I missed in the last two hours
18:56.30OluapPlayerWe didn't even notice you were gone
18:57.17XhoI'm remarkably good at not being noticed
18:57.28Xhocries in the corner
18:59.21HachimanWhen's Xho getting online
18:59.26XhoI dunno
18:59.53OluapPlayerHopefully never, I don't like his face
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19:00.04DrodoEmpireHey everyone
19:00.08XhoHi
19:00.49DrodoEmpireHey Xho
19:02.17Hachiman"I saw Jesus at this pool party and everyone was like, "No way!" And I was like, "Yahweh!""
19:02.30DrodoEmpireHah
19:02.39dromOh hey Drodo
19:02.39OluapPlayerDestroy yourself
19:03.04HachimanI'm already on benefits, I am practically dead inside anyway
19:03.38DrodoEmpiredrom: Yes?
19:03.55dromJust greeting
19:04.05DrodoEmpireAhh, hi
19:06.24HachimanOne thing I do not quite understanding regarding the pronunciation of Lord Voldemort's name apparently lacking a vocal 't' is that why would J.K. Rowling allow the audio books and dramas and the films to continue pronouncing his name with a vocal 't' without correcting the producers
19:06.48HachimanUnless Rowling is doing it to act like a smartass or took her sweet time letting everyone know
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19:07.40OluapPlayermort sounds cooler than mor
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19:14.40GhelawayAlthough I recognised the name's French origins, the fact of the mispronounciation never occured to me, but that's probably because with my accent I don't pronounce half my t's anyway.
19:16.28XhoThat and everyone was British
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19:28.03Primiusit's been so long
19:29.07DrodoEmpireHello.
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19:43.29Primiusyo drom
19:43.33dromHello
19:43.50Primiusanyone want to collab fiction? c=
19:43.59XhoGhelae: mispronunciation*
19:44.00DrodoEmpireIn what way?
19:44.13XhoOr Ghelaway: mispronunciation*
19:45.02PrimiusI want to collab fiction
19:45.02Primius=c
19:46.02DrodoEmpireWell yes
19:46.09DrodoEmpireBut what sort of fiction?
19:46.16Primiuswar or something
19:46.31DrodoEmpireHm/
19:46.49DrodoEmpireWell I have a *lot* already planned for the Empire thusfar, so another war can't really happen
19:46.59DrodoEmpireWithout stretching the credibility a lot. :p
19:47.19dromHow many parts are there involved? Where? When? Who? What? Why?
19:47.34DrodoEmpireYeah a *lot* goes into a collab fiction
19:48.42Primiuswait
19:48.48Primiusthe xonexian schism
19:48.54Primius~suicide
19:48.54infobotACTION kills herself Juliet style, after seeing primius commit suicide
19:49.08Primiusi stupid
19:50.07Primius...so what was it again
19:50.50DrodoEmpireLoong story
19:50.51DrodoEmpireXD
19:50.57DrodoEmpireI'd ask Charles and Wormy about it
19:51.04DrodoEmpireThey know the most
19:51.07dromYou can also ask Monet
19:51.17DrodoEmpireHim too
19:51.19DrodoEmpireYeah
19:51.44PrimiusCharles
19:51.53PrimiusCharles_Murray
19:52.07DrodoEmpireHe's not often always active when on IRC.
19:52.08Primiusbtw i am on the DCP side
19:52.22DrodoEmpirePM him, and if he doesn't respond give it a while
19:52.27dromI've also become a bit more involved in the system, but to admit it, I'm the one with the least knowledge of GXS
19:53.02Primius...FUCK
19:53.05dino82_new version of Osha Stefani: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Osha_StefaniV2LArge.png
19:53.12DrodoEmpireThe Drodo *used* to be on France's side, but with the election of a new leader have approached their own method of neutrality
19:53.13PrimiusTHE MILKY WAY BATTLE IS DONE
19:53.18DrodoEmpire:p
19:53.22PrimiusFUCKITY FUCK FUCK
19:53.23PrimiusFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
19:53.29Primius~explode
19:53.29infobotBOOOM
19:53.29DrodoEmpireNice dino
19:53.33DrodoEmpireCalm down
19:53.37DrodoEmpireChrist...
19:53.38DrodoEmpire:p
19:54.00Charles_MurrayYus?
19:54.03Charles_MurraySomeone called my name?
19:54.09Primiusme
19:54.25PrimiusI want to be in the Andromedan part of the GXS
19:54.26dromNice dino82_, I think the pupils are a bit too big though
19:54.55Primiusmaybe it was poorly timed
19:55.03dino82_yeah, in certain shots they but probably more poorly timed haha
19:55.07Charles_MurrayPrimius : Alright! Hm. I'm about to head back out, but we can definitely discuss that?
19:55.15Primiusok
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19:55.40Charles_MurrayHop on #Katar , we can discuss there
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19:56.32Charles_MurrayPrimius : type /join Katar
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19:57.48XhoCyrannian: Didn't notice you changed Erissare's model
19:58.40CyrannianAye, I made it some time ago
20:00.22dromApparently we are getting photos of our class for the school album
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20:00.26dromtomorrow
20:00.51dromI'm uncertain of what I should be wearing for this year
20:01.40Xhometalhead stuff
20:05.13HachimanY'all motherfuckers need Satan
20:05.51XhoSithis as well
20:06.03XhoAs well as the Many-Faced God
20:06.09HachimanAye
20:06.54dromThey sound too much for my creativity
20:07.05dromI'll dress as a nudist on strike
20:07.55Wormy_awayWith a nudist ourfit?
20:08.07Wormy_awayAfter-all, that is dressing in some form
20:08.21dino82_bye bye all
20:08.24HachimanSo apparently one of the supposed incarnations of the Many-Faced God is the Black Goat, who is worshipped in the Free City of Qohor; incidentally, Shub-Niggurath is also known as the "Black Goat"
20:08.24dino82_see ya all next time
20:08.25Wormy_bye
20:08.33HachimanCya Dino
20:10.09HachimanCannot entirely imagine what would happen if Shub-Niggurath and Cthulhu produced spawn together, given they are both known to have the capacity to do so, or at least it is assumed to be the case for Cthulhu considering the existence of the Star-Spawn
20:10.17XhoKinda just realised Nalashtannylor is the Nine-Faced God
20:10.20XhoOh well
20:10.41XhoHachiman: Basically a swarming mass of FUCK
20:10.58GhelXho: Yeah, I do spell things wrong sometimes. I don't always pronunce them right either. :P
20:11.10Xhogak
20:11.20XhoNot falling for that one hur
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20:11.48AdmiralPandahi all
20:11.51GhelHello.
20:12.22HachimanA demigodlike combination of tripedal trees and immortal cephalopodians
20:12.24HachimanHai Panda
20:16.45dromHey AdmiralPanda. Mind explaining a bit about the pausiblity of infrared-visible light-UV vision?
20:17.33AdmiralPandaas in a creature that can see in the UV spectrum? I kinda don't understand the question fully
20:18.23droma creature those spectrum of visible wavelengths include the infrared, the visible light and the UV wavelengths
20:18.48HachimanI get reminded of how the eyesight of the Predators from the Predator movies work
20:20.20GhelUV and IR both have quite a wide spread of wavelengths, but it's certainly possible for creatures to see in the parts of them near to the visible spectrum.
20:20.34GhelSome creatures do, after all.
20:21.17GhelAnd others, like humans, don't see in UV mainly because it's blocked from entering our eyes.
20:22.02HachimanI also get reminded of how the eyes of the mantis shrimp species can see far more colours and spectrums of light than what the human eye can register
20:22.32GhelTo detect any kind of EM radiation, you basically need an antenna (as in, a radio antenna) comparable in size to the wavelength of the light. So for visible and near-visible IR and UV light, with a wavelength of a few hundred nanometres, molecules do the trick.
20:23.30GhelBut if you want to detect longer wavelengths, such as other IR, microwaves and radio waves, you need comparably larger detectors and so you'll either get much lower resolution or need stupidly big eyes.
20:24.02AdmiralPandaGhel has it
20:24.12dromSounds reasonable
20:24.32GhelFor shorter wavelengths, such as ionising UV, x-rays and gamma rays, the photons will be energetic enough to ionise atoms, so you generally don't want to let them get close to your cells in the first place.
20:28.36dromI've been given some examples by some and articles on different animals. The size of the pupils plays a role on whichever wave-length is let in
20:29.25GhelIf you have very small pupils, then diffraction would have an effect, but that shouldn't matter for pupils more than a micron or so in radius.
20:35.23dromHm. The eyes are estimated to twice the size of human eye, perhaps the same size of large mammalians'.
20:36.04dromAnd I don't think that the creature's eye pupil can be narrower than 1mm or 0,5mm
20:37.16Wormy_Ghel, I found a game you might be good at
20:37.22Wormy_Let me find it again...
20:37.43GhelPupil size will determine how much light gets in, but shouldn't discriminate based on wavelength.
20:38.41Wormy_Basically, snarXiv randomly generates physics papers, and you have to guess which is real or phony.  Of course, longer titles don't always mean its random I found http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/
20:39.23Wormy_People have used it to find projects to do lol
20:40.02GhelWell, I've just done 10 guesses and only got 3 right. :P
20:40.58dromGhel: Speaking of the IR wavelengths, I've noticed heat ususally generates [thermal] IR, which usually have a wavelength between 8-15 micrometer
20:41.45Wormy_"Brick Walls on Brame" is real http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0110118
20:41.51GhelObjects radiate heat in the form of EM across all wavelengths. For temperatures comparable to Earth's surface, the peak of that radiation is within the IR range.
20:42.18GhelFor temperatures like those of the surface of stars, the peak wavelength is visible, which is why stars emit light.
20:42.24Wormy_I've actually got 7/12, but i put it down to luck
20:44.18GhelSecond attempt. 5/10. I think that's as good as I'm going to get.
20:44.49dromIndeed yes. But to make it trivial, I want give the creatures a low-light condition vision, where organisms are easily visible due to body temperature distinguishable from environment.
20:45.15GhelIn that case, you'll want something like how snakes detect body heat.
20:45.42GhelThen just structure the organ more like an eye (spherical, pupil, lens, etc) and you've got an IR eye.
20:46.44dromI'd like to add visible light and UV (the harmless range) vision
20:47.07GhelThen you just need different detector cells.
20:47.19GhelLike humans have different retinal cells to detect red, green and blue.
20:48.26GhelAlthough a lens suited for focusing those wavelengths of light might cause chromatic aberration for IR, and vice versa. They may only be able to see clearly in one set of wavelengths at a time.
20:49.41GhelThey may still be able to evolve a solution to that in the form of a lens that corrects for chromatic aberrations.
20:50.50dromOr alienify the structure to the point that is basically very liquid in the scale of science fiction hardness
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20:51.23TekDroidHello
20:51.24GhelHello.
20:51.31TybusenHello friends
20:51.44dromHello
20:51.53GhelYou might as well just say it's an achromatic lens and be done with it.
20:52.11GhelIf you really want detail, it's a pair of lenses with different dispersions put together.
20:54.15dromOtherwise I could give the excuse that their brain is capable to correct by receving the first form of the image in form of different layers, each one provided by each unique type of retinal cells.
20:54.25dromAnd lapping them together
20:55.47dromHm, that's basically the same as achromatic lens, except the lens isn't achromatic
20:59.39GhelI don't think that would work as well as simply evolving one lens on top of another.
21:09.24dromAchromatic lenses and extra retina cells then
21:14.25XhoAnd we're on about biological sciences now
21:15.33Wormy_Speaking of chromatic aberation...
21:16.04Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:16.56Wormy_yes they are my doges
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21:21.13Wormy__If anyone commented I didn't get it
21:21.25Wormy__black screen of death
21:24.15Wormy__http://imgur.com/gallery/DC09QQe
21:24.19Wormy__laughs
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21:24.37Wormy__I have obtained a mineral a million times rarer than diamond for £20
21:24.54DrodoEmpireReally?
21:25.00DrodoEmpireDid you sell it? Did you get rich?
21:25.22DrodoEmpire(If you are, then just letting you know, I know this Nigerian prince, down on his luck...)
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21:25.46Wormy__No, I wouldn't dream of selling it (Benitoite), took me two years of searching through mineral conferences and shops
21:26.05DrodoEmpireAhh
21:26.22Wormy__I ended up finding it in a small mineral shop, and they obviously didn't know how rare it was
21:27.53AdmiralPandaofficially awake and fully prepared for hte day a full three hours ahead of the time I normally wake up
21:28.11Wormy__This is what it looks like (the two triangular crystals) embedded on neptunite http://www.gemresources.com/Images/18-4-Benitoite.jpg
21:30.14Wormy__That image won't lod for me, so just encase http://www.exceptionalminerals.com/Tuc2005-62IBbenitoite.jpg
21:37.10XhoCyrannian: "Her brother claims that Erissare is truly a kind and loving person, she has just yet to find the right person."                  Santorakh - suitors eh
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21:39.42CyrannianErissare does plan on marrying herself at some point
21:40.12XhoI left a quote on her page
21:40.15AdmiralPandaTake that literally and I'm pretty sure that was an episode of Glee at one point
21:40.37dromErissare is perhaps the Sporewiki equivalent of Kanye West (in ego)
21:41.11Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Siege_of_Vasuband#Fall_of_the_Imperial_State - dun dun dunnn
21:43.52XhoErissare - MAGNIFICENT FIST
21:44.24CyrannianI felt bad for Tyermaillin while writing
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21:54.56AdmiralPandacoming up with new fiction ideas has made me realise just how much the scale of the wikiverse has increased over the years
21:55.24TekDroidIndeed
21:55.49drom_Aye
21:59.15XhoFor some reason I can't see Kol's page
21:59.17AdmiralPandaI say this because most of the stuff I tend to come up with given my roleplaying background is relatively small scale, and feels completely out of place
21:59.22XhoAnd no refreshing the page does not work
22:00.31TybusenDid you try turning it off and on again
22:02.39XhoI am going to hit you
22:03.51Wormy__http://imgur.com/gallery/IXO2EhL
22:06.38TybusenKoluap's page loads for me so it's something on your end, not with the page itself
22:07.30XhoNot Koluap
22:07.31XhoKol Daren
22:07.43XhoOr whatever he is now
22:07.47XhoI can't read the damn page
22:08.14CyrannianThat happens to me occasionally too, though I've no idea how to fix it. I usually just look at the second most recent version of the page.
22:09.49TybusenHmm
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22:09.57TybusenActually it must be something with the page
22:10.02TybusenIt's blank for me too
22:10.11HachimanWiki must be having problems
22:10.13GD12ohai
22:10.17TybusenThe code itself is intact but it's blanking the Kol page
22:10.34XhoI've got the same thing with the Isio'Nar page
22:10.43HachimanYeah I've experienced this a couple of times
22:10.45XhoNot that's been edited in ~2 years but still
22:10.47HachimanWikia is bugging out again
22:11.15CyrannianThat's weird, Kol's page is working for me
22:11.32Xhobloody irish
22:12.12TybusenOdd how only specific pages are getting blanked
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22:12.28HachimanDo you eat the potato when it has grown or do you ferment it so you can drink it later
22:12.30HachimanHai
22:12.49TybusenThe preview button for those pages tells me that the code is completely fine
22:12.55XhoWell they eat the potatoes of course, they're not Russians
22:12.56AdmiralPandato put it a way that most of the people here will get, everyone else is writing the daedric incursion while I just want to write about the hero of kvatch
22:13.39XhoWell they're kinda the same thing aren't they
22:13.47HachimanWasn't the Hero of Kvatch significantly involved in the Daedric incursions though
22:13.54Tybusenobviously you eat potato when it has grown, but then politburo punches potato out of your stomach and sends you to gulag
22:14.10AdmiralPandainvolved, but the daedric incursion was across the entire continent
22:14.30HachimanWeird how you associated the potato joke with Russians rather than Irish
22:15.11TybusenHave you heard of Latvia jokes?
22:15.12AdmiralPandato put it bluntly I can't be bothered writing a huge sweeping epic, all I want to do is small scale stories that let me focus just on the characters
22:15.46TybusenAdmiralPanda: Nothing's really stopping you from doing that. Quite honestly, I've been wanting to write smaller-scale stories about my characters as well
22:15.57AdmiralPandaunfortunately nearly every story written here is exactly that, a huge scale story, and the few I try to get involved with I can't get involved in for any number of stupid reasons
22:16.05TybusenThe only thing stopping me is that I'm a hopelessly lazy ass
22:16.05AdmiralPandaTybusen: I just can't write solo fiction, it doesn't work
22:16.17AdmiralPandaI lose interest two or three paragraphs in most of the time
22:17.04TybusenWell, you've done some of those shorter stories in the past, haven't you? Didn't they turn out fine?
22:18.09TybusenWasn't there that one where that Fordanta guy goes to visit Ramashe or something?
22:18.10AdmiralPandayeah but they're like a one-shot when what I want to run is a campaign
22:18.18TybusenAh
22:18.25AdmiralPandaeh I've probably run into rant mode again
22:19.21AdmiralPandayou're right, I'm very proud of In Better Times, but that was exactly what I was talking about, small scale, character focused, it was a whole story not just a little short
22:20.08AdmiralPandaand tbh the fact that something like that counts as a short story around here kinda goes along with my point
22:20.59TybusenI'm guessing you're trying to find a storyline that works without having to mold itself to fit the "epics" currently in progress?
22:23.20AdmiralPandareally the ideal from my point of view was what I tried (and failed horribly) to do with Kaios, that is have the story focused on characters, small enough scale that the focus stays on the characters at all times, and you could create new stories indefinitely through the overarching narrative
22:23.43AdmiralPandaand I did just bascially describe a D&D campaign in a nutshell, so I guess ultimately that's what I want in a sense, a D&D campaign style story
22:25.08TybusenAdmiralPanda: I'd be interested in collaborating in a setting like that
22:26.17AdmiralPandayou can understand my reluctance to try given the aforementioned failure in the past, but now I'm just getting depressive again
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22:28.02TybusenThough I wonder if a setting like that would tend towards episodic, or whether there would still be some overarching story guiding the plot
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22:29.01NoblaSourEmpireHello
22:29.02AdmiralPandatalking from the D&D mindset, you actually end up with a mix of both, as in each "episode" is disconnected so to speak, but there's an overarching plot connecting them together through the characters
22:29.44AdmiralPandaessentially, they're all connected by the fact that they contribute to the characters' development, and they all ultimately make up part of the characters' story
22:30.15TybusenThough by that I'm assuming you mean that there's not a "traditional" overarching story that strings the episodes towards some sort of series climax or finale
22:31.11AdmiralPandanot necessarily, no
22:31.32TybusenThat it's more of a series to follow a group of characters undergoing development in a sort of "day-to-day" setting rather than a sort of series that follows a group of characters developing during a journey to a sort of "final enemy"
22:32.17AdmiralPandaindividual arcs would of course have an ultimate climax, but there isn't necessarily an end goal
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22:32.35AdmiralPandaafter all, the only thing that stops a D&D campaign is the players getting so horribly overlevelled that even hell doesn't stand a chance :P
22:33.01TybusenAlright now I understand what you're describing
22:33.14TybusenI'd be really down for a series like that
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22:35.28AdmiralPandaI have ideas, not sure what I'd ultimately go with but there is a lot swimming around
22:36.11TybusenWould you be using existing characters of yours, or do you think you would create new characters to head up the series
22:37.15AdmiralPandaI'd probably be starting over tbh, all of my existing stuff is so bent towards fitting in with the ridiculous large-scale setting that it would just be out of place
22:38.59TybusenI have a couple of characters that I've been wanting to use but haven't gotten the chance to yet, just the question is whether the smaller-scale setting you're thinking of will be appropriate for them
22:40.21Primiussdfghj
22:42.06AdmiralPandabrb, helping my dad with some sailing stuff
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22:52.43AdmiralPandaok back
22:54.56AdmiralPandaso yeah, my original thinking was keeping things to a star system or cluster, or potentially to a ship and crew (although I tried that with Kaios and it didn't work out so well)
22:58.41TybusenI do have a mercenary character that I want to use, which would be suited to a cluster-size setting
22:59.07TybusenThough I don't know if you want to go down a "traveling mercenaries" route
22:59.35Tek0516Damnit this is disorganized. I've had three people ahead of me get served.
23:01.14AdmiralPandafor a moment I thought Tek was Tybusen and things got confusing
23:02.13TybusenAh so that's why I got my order early
23:02.21Tybusenlooks like Panda gave Tek's order to me instead
23:02.40AdmiralPandaand yeah, I don't really want to go the mercenary route again since I already did Kaios, and prettymuch anything I came up with on that angle would just be Kaios 2.0
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23:02.52DrodoEmpireHello
23:03.32TybusenThe group would probably have to be some sort of group that doesn't have strong ties to any one political faction though
23:03.48AdmiralPandakinda funny how the character that I generally consider to be an all-round failure is also the only one with a meaningful conclusion to their character arc so far
23:05.04TybusenI find mercenaries the easiest to write a series about adventures and individual character development, and I think there's a lot of angles one can still take with the premise of "traveling mercenaries", though I understand if you're reluctant to try the idea again
23:08.07NoblaSourEmpireMercenaries don't have allegiance
23:08.14NoblaSourEmpireso they are easy to manage
23:09.13Primiusreturns from afk
23:09.20PrimiusXho.
23:09.27PrimiusIMMA BE WIERD
23:09.31PrimiusXh0?
23:10.03XhoMy reply is no
23:10.22PrimiusIt will n0t be n0. NEVER N0
23:10.41HachimanShut up Primius
23:10.51HachimanIf you're going to be a retard, go somewhere else
23:11.06Primiusn0 Hachiman. am t00 c00l
23:11.13Primiusis made of 0
23:11.35DrodoEmpirePrimius just stop
23:11.39DrodoEmpireIts getting bothersome
23:11.40XhoGetting too old for this shit
23:11.45AdmiralPandayou're right, I'm open to working from that angle Tybusen. Do you have time to work on the idea now?
23:11.49Primiusk
23:12.00Primiusexpl0des and st0ps
23:12.06Primiusok then
23:12.12Primiussorry i wanted to make an irc moent
23:12.19Primiusi'm not there too much
23:12.22DrodoEmpireYou can't force them.
23:12.25DrodoEmpirePeriod.
23:12.38Primiusdamn it was a smudge :o
23:12.39DrodoEmpireNot that its been updated in, what? Several months?
23:12.52Primiusl<
23:12.54Primiussorry
23:13.02Primiusi shot my k with a sawgun
23:13.21XhoNot since the Hunger Games incident
23:13.32AdmiralPandayou don't make an IRC moment happen, the whole point of the page is to record the random shit that just happens, it never actually gets planned
23:13.38Primiusk then
23:13.41AdmiralPandathat's the whole reason it's funny
23:13.44XhoSo about 4 months
23:13.45Primiusk
23:13.54Primiusdies of boredo
23:14.02Primiuswait boredo
23:14.05PrimiusPERFECT
23:14.12PrimiusI ALWAYS WANTED TO DIE THAT WAY
23:14.14TybusenAdmiralPanda: I'm open to working on the idea right now
23:14.15HachimanEugh
23:14.19Primiusyeah i'm weird
23:14.22AdmiralPandareminisces about the days when he and Ghelae would fight using other IRC users as weapons
23:14.24HachimanWhy do we get retards here I will never know
23:14.36XhoThe SporeWiki IRC quotes is mainly "The moments where Xho says something funny and with other users doing some funny things also"
23:14.38DrodoEmpireYou're making a fool of yourself. Act a little less, er, eccentric.
23:14.40HachimanYou are not weird, you are a fucking dickhead, that is what you are
23:14.41XhoFrom a Xho point of view
23:14.44DrodoEmpireGotta be civil.
23:14.47Primiusslaps AdmiralPanda with Hachi
23:14.57AdmiralPandaNo.
23:15.03AdmiralPandaThat is for me and Ghelae. You do not get to take part.
23:15.11Primius...
23:15.16Primiusfine
23:15.17DrodoEmpireStealing others' jokes isn't funny...
23:15.21Primiusbut be aware
23:15.22DrodoEmpireThis is basic stuff...
23:15.23TybusenPrimius: I need to ask you to settle down, since you're bothering the other users now
23:15.24HachimanPrimius if I were you I would leave and not come back
23:15.33HachimanYou are not welcome here
23:15.36Primiusi need to stop being bullied
23:15.36DrodoEmpireYes, listen to Tyb, settle down
23:15.40DrodoEmpireYou're not.
23:15.44HachimanFuck off cunt
23:15.48XhoHachi stop
23:15.50HachimanYou bring it on yourself
23:15.51DrodoEmpireGranted, Hachi's being a little, well, quite, harsh
23:15.57Primius"you are a fucking dickhead" "fuck off cunt"
23:15.58Primiusbullying
23:16.05DrodoEmpireBut I can't say it isn't particularly unwarranted.
23:16.08HachimanIt's not undeserved
23:16.13Primiusit is
23:16.18DrodoEmpireNo just settle down
23:16.20DrodoEmpire*Now
23:16.23Primiusyou could for example, reduce the reaction?
23:16.26Primiusjust sayin
23:16.27HachimanStop being a cunt and I will not treat you like one
23:16.28Primiuscalm
23:16.33Primiusuncalm
23:16.35PrimiusEEEEEEE
23:16.38Primiuscalm again
23:16.41TybusenI have to ask Primius and Hachiman to both calm themselves
23:16.43XhoYou are in an IRC moment anyway
23:16.52Primiusuncalm again
23:16.53HachimanThis is why I hate children
23:16.56HachimanFucking tweens
23:16.59Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:IRC/Quotes#The_True_Story_of_Gianne_Invi.C3.A1
23:17.05PrimiusOOOEEEIIIII
23:17.13Primiusxho
23:17.28Primiusyou think hydrogen, i think deuterium
23:17.32Primiusmaybe even tritium
23:17.46Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:IRC/Quotes#Wrong Two actually
23:18.10Primiusok now you're thinking deuterium
23:18.23*** kick/#sporewiki [Primius!uid109476@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pioyjltmzupqbgvd] by Cyrannian (Spam)
23:18.35*** join/#sporewiki Primius (63eee964@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.238.233.100)
23:18.37Primiuswat
23:18.42XhoFor once I'm actually lost for words
23:18.44Primiusbut i don't even see my name in the first one
23:18.51TybusenI believe that's called a "warning", Primius
23:19.14Primiusxho where is me
23:19.15AdmiralPandathe silent waptor is deadliest
23:19.25Primiuswaits to pop up in ther
23:19.27CyrannianYes. Try and calm down please.
23:19.37HachimanMay as well permaban his IP
23:19.41HachimanHe keeps doing this
23:19.58HachimanHe has been doing this for roughly years and has never made an attempt to settle
23:20.01Primius...
23:20.09PrimiusNo.
23:20.15Primiuscalm
23:20.26DrodoEmpireDon't deny it, Primius. You're overexcited constantly despite our asking you to just calm down.
23:20.32DrodoEmpireEspecially now
23:20.36PrimiusSee? Settled unless harshi doesn't come back
23:20.41Primiushachi ok
23:20.56HachimanHe just keeps acting like some randumb retard whose sole purpose for being on the channel is to derail conversations and act like a general fucking cretin
23:20.58DrodoEmpireYes yes, everyone blame Hachi, as if he started this.
23:21.01PrimiusNot denying it-
23:21.02DrodoEmpire:p
23:21.38PrimiusEveryone get Harshi away
23:21.55XhoOkay I'm gonna speak for the whole IRC
23:21.58XhoShut the fuck up already
23:22.03DrodoEmpireIs "Harshi" a pun? If so then just... Ugh.
23:22.07DrodoEmpireThank you, Xho.
23:22.18Primiusle portmanteau Drodo
23:22.26HachimanIf I were not more sensitive of people in the channel I'd make some rather harsh comparisons but I will have to settle for a sexually-transmitted disease since this is what dealing with you is like
23:22.29Primiusshuts the fuck up already
23:22.31drom_I'm speechless, Xho
23:22.54XhoDrom_: In all honesty I use the word 'fuck' at least 250 times a day
23:23.02Primiuswow
23:23.05drom_Xho: Do eet
23:23.14DrodoEmpireGood, stay that way please. We don't mind if you don't spam and just be "le totally randum XDDDD" all the time.
23:23.15Primiusthat alone seems like an irc moment to me
23:23.16Primiusholy fuck
23:23.21HachimanRight fuck off
23:23.23XhoWell we're only 23 minutes in give me some time
23:23.26DrodoEmpireI'm sure you're fine when-
23:23.43DrodoEmpireChrist on a cracker, still railing on about IRC moments? Was all this just for a "moment"?
23:23.49Primiusto me
23:23.50AdmiralPandaXho: you didn't tell me you're part Australian :P
23:23.52DrodoEmpireOr are you normally this obnoxious?
23:23.54Primiusno Drodo
23:23.54HachimanCyrannian get rid of him]
23:23.59PrimiusEEEE
23:24.00HachimanPlease
23:24.00PrimiusNU
23:24.06XhoI'M NOT AUSTRALIAN                                     FUCKING COLONIALS
23:24.14AdmiralPandaalso Christ on a cracker, I need to remember that one
23:24.19DrodoEmpire:3
23:24.21*** mode/#sporewiki [+b *!63eee964@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.238.233.100] by Cyrannian
23:24.26Xhooh
23:24.27*** kick/#sporewiki [Primius!uid109476@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pioyjltmzupqbgvd] by Cyrannian (Primius)
23:24.29Xhou gon bai bai
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23:24.47XhoWell that's settled
23:24.58AdmiralPandaXho: It's a compliment, at least I didn't say you were part American :P
23:24.59TybusenProbably should put a warning on his Wiki page to make sure he doesn't try to bandodge
23:25.00DrodoEmpireAhh... Good.
23:25.10XhoTrue
23:25.32TybusenAdmiralPanda: now i'll have you know that the us of a is the number one world in the country, such as obesity and heart disease
23:25.35AdmiralPandaAt least we took the parts you didn't want and made them actually good
23:25.40drom_For far long will the ban last this time though? If I can may ask?
23:25.48AdmiralPandaTybusen: But not individual freedom or happiness XD
23:25.53XhoONE THOUSAND YEARS
23:26.05drom_<PROTECTED>
23:26.06Tybusenyou canNOT MEASURE FREEDOM WITH NUMBERS
23:26.13CyrannianUntil I figure out how to unban someone :P
23:26.36HachimanHow convenient that you probably never will figure that out
23:26.44XhoIt's like the Xbox permaban
23:26.55Xho"Your ban will end on 31/12/9999"
23:27.07HachimanAye I remember that
23:27.22Xhohttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/79AOelvIbf4/maxresdefault.jpg
23:27.51AdmiralPandaone of my friends got banned on Runescape for some stupid number of hours (I think it was like a 40'000 hour ban or something) and five years later he's having a party to celebrate his ban being lifted
23:27.53HachimanThat actually featured in the Guinness Book of World Records I believe
23:28.00Hachimanolol
23:28.26Xhoheh
23:28.33Tybusen"I didn't build the time machine to make money. I built the time machine to dodge my Xbox ban!"
23:30.40Tybusen>searches for UCLA merchandise on Amazon
23:30.46Tybusen>finds USC merchandise
23:30.58Tybusenget your shit together Amazon
23:32.26DrodoEmpiretest
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23:33.00DrodoEmpireHello again
23:33.41NoblaSourEmpirehey drodo
23:34.07NoblaSourEmpireI doing some research on andromeda
23:34.18DrodoEmpireOh?
23:34.22Charles_MurrayCyrannian : How do you kick someone from a channel? Primius is giving us trouble on #Katar
23:34.37NoblaSourEmpireI might see if i am able to invade Borealis
23:35.06CyrannianThe channel administrator should have the option to kick him by clicking on his name
23:35.44Charles_MurrayI have the option to kick him, not ban him.
23:36.02NoblaSourEmpireyep
23:36.07NoblaSourEmpireseems like an easy target
23:36.23DrodoEmpireEasy atrget?
23:36.26DrodoEmpire*target
23:36.30NoblaSourEmpirei hear its filled to the brim with like  7 billion conflicts they probobly wont even notice me XD
23:36.42AdmiralPandaThere aren't many places in the universe that are easy targets :P
23:36.49Cyrannianhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Instructions#Channel_operator_commands
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23:36.57NoblaSourEmpireheard of the Sea People?
23:37.09DrodoEmpireFrom earth? Yes.
23:37.27NoblaSourEmpireno
23:37.31DrodoEmpireHm?
23:37.31NoblaSourEmpirewrong sea people
23:37.42DrodoEmpireOh, not the bronze-age people?
23:37.48NoblaSourEmpirenope
23:37.55DrodoEmpireAhh
23:37.57DrodoEmpireThen no
23:38.07NoblaSourEmpireThe Intergalactic Alliance of Underwater or aquatic Species
23:39.36NoblaSourEmpirethey suck XD
23:40.05Xho?
23:40.19XhoThis has turned out to be a very dumbfounding night
23:40.28NoblaSourEmpirethey where created by a 6 year old and it has a TON of spelling and grammar Erors
23:40.32NoblaSourEmpire*erros
23:40.36DrodoEmpireLink?
23:41.10NoblaSourEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Sea_Peoples
23:41.16Tek0516Charles_Murray: I think typing "/ban ___" in the channel works
23:41.39XhoOh that was Pinguinus
23:41.41XhoStrange kid
23:41.45Tek0516maybe not
23:41.53HachimanNot even part of the Fictionverse
23:42.22NoblaSourEmpirereally?
23:42.30NoblaSourEmpirewhat are they from?
23:42.34NoblaSourEmpirefantasy Verse?
23:42.47HachimanKoldenwelt is part of a continuity known as the Fantasyverse
23:43.07NoblaSourEmpiremkay
23:43.20NoblaSourEmpirei read about that
23:43.33NoblaSourEmpireits about a ton of diffrent civs on some continent
23:43.35NoblaSourEmpireon some planet
23:43.51HachimanYes
23:44.00HachimanWith magic and such
23:44.23NoblaSourEmpirei hear its really boring because you stay on one continent when in the fic verse you go through all of reality
23:44.35XhoWhoever said that was rather dim
23:45.00DrodoEmpireNot boring
23:45.03XhoIt's a completely different process to the Fictionverse
23:45.07DrodoEmpireOnly if you don't like fantasy
23:45.19NoblaSourEmpirei said it because i am not a fan of fantasy
23:45.20NoblaSourEmpireXD
23:45.22DrodoEmpireAnd I'm sorta meh about fantasy myself
23:45.23NoblaSourEmpire*I
23:45.33XhoWhich reminds me I need to get that going again
23:45.39NoblaSourEmpirebai
23:45.43DrodoEmpireBye
23:45.50NoblaSourEmpiremy french teacher wont stop playing this song in class
23:46.22NoblaSourEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7-UcdcK4AA
23:46.24TybusenI consider myself open to fantasy, though I guess I'm not as big on large-scale Tolkien-esque fantasy which I feel is what the Fantasyverse aspires to be
23:46.43AdmiralPandaI would do fantasyverse stuff but again, no interest in large scale stuff and the last time I joined a story I had to quit because u fuks and ur timezones
23:46.48HachimanThe Fantasyverse is not just Tolkein-esque
23:47.00HachimanAlthough then again, I suppose much of it is
23:47.03AdmiralPandaHachiman: he meant in terms of scale, which it very much is
23:47.08XhoIt's probably got more Lovecraft references to Tolkein references thouh
23:47.10Xhothough
23:47.12NoblaSourEmpirei feel like a mix of fantasy and  science fiction is always good
23:47.27DrodoEmpireScience Fantasy?
23:47.29TybusenIt's easier for me to work with a large-scale setting if it's sci-fi rather than fantasy
23:47.30DrodoEmpireYeah its cool
23:47.45NoblaSourEmpireLovecraft is the best sci fi writer ever! (other then HG wells)
23:47.49HachimanHonestly I am not fond of small-scale fantasy settings like Harry Potter
23:47.56Liquid_InkThe SciFiverse is already science fantasy.
23:48.00XhoSci-Fi generally always warrants a massive setting
23:48.11TybusenXho: Not necessarily
23:48.15Xhogenerally
23:48.15AdmiralPandaXho: Shadowrun would like to say hi
23:48.16Xhodum
23:48.19Xhour all dum
23:48.19Xhoreed
23:48.21Xholern to reed
23:48.24Xhour all dum
23:48.24AdmiralPandano
23:48.26Xhoyeh
23:48.29AdmiralPandano
23:48.30Xhoyeh
23:48.36drom_shuddup
23:48.38XhoI SAID FUCKING LEARN TO READ
23:48.45NoblaSourEmpirethe entire Mythos was picked up and thrown back down by almost every writer even south park on the planet
23:48.47AdmiralPandaI know how to read, I'm just making the Xho angry :P
23:48.53TybusenWorks like 1984, for one, are pretty small-scale in terms of the world portrayed
23:49.01NoblaSourEmpiresame
23:49.06XhoBut yeah fair point
23:49.11NoblaSourEmpireXho
23:49.13AdmiralPandabut in all seriousness, you can quite easily make sci-fi work on the small scale, like Shadowrun and Chicago
23:49.20NoblaSourEmpireyou know what the best Sci Fi books are?
23:49.25TybusenSome sci-fi ideas work best in small settings, in fact
23:49.27XhoI don't read
23:49.31NoblaSourEmpireWHAT!
23:49.33AdmiralPandayou know, for the number of times I say Chicago I don't actually know how to spell it
23:49.34NoblaSourEmpireBRO!
23:49.41TybusenXho: maybe you should learn to read
23:49.45AdmiralPandaok I did get it right
23:49.47XhoReading books hardly does anything for me imaginatively speaking
23:50.05TybusenFair enough
23:50.06NoblaSourEmpirecall of cthulu! War of the worlds! Food of the gods! The TIme Machine!
23:50.16AdmiralPandanow has "Who runs the people who run Chicago?" in is head
23:50.25NoblaSourEmpireThey Litteraly STARTED Sci Fi
23:50.36XhoAs for the Fictionverse, it's much less Science Fantasy than it used to be
23:50.40TybusenI do prefer books and literature better when there's illustrations to help my imagination but I can get imaginative engagement from a book still
23:50.40DrodoEmpireI read non-fiction about history, especially the Napoleonic Wars, which explains the Drodo a bit. :p
23:50.42XhoOr is it more Science Fantasy
23:50.43XhoNot sure
23:51.05TybusenI feel like the Fictionverse is leaning more towards hard sci-fi than sci-fantasy nowadays
23:51.12NoblaSourEmpireyep
23:51.14XhoYeah I guess
23:51.15HachimanI feel it has a good blend
23:51.20AdmiralPandaI'd say its less science fantasy, ever since wormy got his wriggly hands into our science
23:51.33XhoEven I don't use much fantasy elements in fiction now and I more or less created that aspect
23:51.35HachimanAlso far more political overtones
23:51.40XhoOr Val did actually
23:51.43TybusenMostly because a lot of the story arcs involving the Essentials have taken a back seat to stories like GXS and NCW
23:51.58NoblaSourEmpireI mean you have to have at least 75% of the science behind something must be explained
23:52.08TybusenEarly Fictionverse was heavily sci-fantasy because of things like the Xhodocto and the Taldar
23:52.08XhoNot necessarily
23:52.16XhoThe Xhodocto
23:52.17XhoUrgh
23:52.19XhoLet's not go there
23:52.25HachimanWe have no scientific explanation behind Essence
23:52.25drom_Laters
23:52.28XhoNever a conversation that goes lightly
23:52.30HachimanIt's magic, deal with it
23:52.42TybusenEssence is the main fantasy feature of the Fictionverse
23:52.52NoblaSourEmpirewell Xhodocto was a imortal deity that flew around with a bunch of demons
23:53.01NoblaSourEmpireXd
23:53.04Tek0516I think Monet had a science-ish explanation for essence.
23:53.16XhoBest way to describe it is extradimensional technology beyond conventional understanding
23:53.29NoblaSourEmpirewtf is essence? Futuristic drugs or something?
23:53.37HachimanWe just said magic
23:53.40XhoMagic really
23:53.49NoblaSourEmpireXho
23:53.51HachimanSomething to do with hyperspace or other
23:53.56NoblaSourEmpireyour generals are the 7 deadly sins
23:53.58Liquid_InkIt's our explanation of not-science.
23:54.08XhoMy stuff has a fantasy overtone to it
23:54.24XhoThough in reality my fiction is just a twisted offshoot off normality
23:54.34Xhooff/of take your pick
23:55.23XhoLots of fictions would still call the Xhodocto demonic presences but in an objective sense...well it's not worth explaining in one sentence
23:55.27XhoToo hard
23:55.34HachimanAlso I would not really write H.P. Lovecraft off as a science fiction author and more of a horror author with fantasy and sci-fantasy elements
23:55.37NoblaSourEmpireXho no offense but way back when your fics where like seeing through the eyes of a drugged up teen on pot and Ecstasy
23:55.44NoblaSourEmpirei read all of them
23:55.45XhoIt still is really
23:55.54XhoNot that I am on drugs
23:55.57XhoI might as well be
23:56.18NoblaSourEmpiregtg be back in 5 minutes
23:56.53XhoI've been trying to de-fantasytise my fictionverse stuff recently anyway
23:57.25XhoNot entirely possible but I'm basically just making things sound even more vague to deter explanation
23:58.32XhoIf only I had enough time and energy to get on with that personal universe stuff
23:58.40TybusenThough "things that cannot simply be explained" tends to be more of a fantasy thing than a realism thing
23:58.47TybusenAs I see it, at least
23:58.53XhoSuppose so
23:59.02XhoMost of my fiction is drawn from religious references
23:59.23Hachimaninb4 thought you were trying to de-fantasize it :p
23:59.26XhoConcerning your stance on religion of course
23:59.39XhoYeah I just realised it's more difficult than I previously considered

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