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00:28.50 | TekDroid | :/ My building's AC seems mostly broken |
00:29.32 | TekDroid | cool-ish breeze, but barely enough to keep it below air temp |
00:29.58 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
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01:29.52 | Wormy_ | I love these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_house_spider |
01:32.53 | Wormy_ | "The spidersâ bite can be similar to a bee sting if the skin is pierced, but Ms Rind said this was unlikely as long as people did not antagonise the insects and treated them sensibly." |
01:33.11 | Wormy_ | THEY ARE NOT INSECTS the Independent |
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12:30.24 | Wormy_ | hi |
12:30.28 | Ghel | Hello. |
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13:54.34 | Xho | HONK |
13:55.24 | OluapPlayer | spu |
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13:58.27 | Xho | Hm what to do |
13:58.54 | OluapPlayer | Work on Kicathian Dessert |
13:59.31 | Xho | In that case I'll need you for Agent Cow |
13:59.50 | OluapPlayer | baah |
13:59.52 | OluapPlayer | rite |
14:00.48 | Xho | Can't even connect to Titanpd |
14:00.50 | Xho | gg |
14:00.52 | Xho | dum server |
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14:02.50 | TekDroid | My data limit resets Thursday. >.< |
14:30.09 | Xho | slaps OluapPlayer around a bit with a large fishbot |
14:30.16 | OluapPlayer | shup |
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15:03.05 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicathian_Dissension#Across_the_Stars Angry cyborgs talk to each other |
15:11.03 | Cyrannian | Noice |
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15:52.58 | Hachiman | Hai |
15:56.47 | OluapPlayer | ew go away |
15:59.38 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/UxUbz4O http://imgur.com/gallery/raqXNSK http://imgur.com/gallery/D0GQ9Jl http://imgur.com/gallery/pRghoNU http://i.imgur.com/Bo7Fwes.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7Kv9CV3.jpg |
16:00.02 | Wormy_away | http://i.imgur.com/vlh9gQe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7qqtut1.jpg http://imgur.com/gallery/g8N2iwz http://imgur.com/gallery/JYdcZe8 http://imgur.com/gallery/xiavvXX http://imgur.com/gallery/vxH5Yqt |
16:01.04 | Wormy_away | I like the "nolivesmatter" one |
16:13.02 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/8rCEdyN |
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17:26.07 | Cyrannian | How do you link someone's name on DeviantART? |
17:31.53 | OluapPlayer | :namehere: |
17:32.02 | OluapPlayer | Or :iconnamehere: |
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17:45.24 | Cyrannian | If anyone has any ideas for September's featured articles, let it be known or forever hold your peace |
17:45.43 | OluapPlayer | I'll nominate your big-boobied slut gal |
17:45.44 | OluapPlayer | aka Caranye |
17:47.12 | Cyrannian | danke... I think |
17:47.31 | OluapPlayer | I'm joking hur |
17:55.44 | Imperios | Yeah that Russian ladt |
17:55.45 | Imperios | lady |
17:56.08 | Imperios | I nominate... hm |
18:01.25 | drom | Hm |
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18:02.02 | Jepardi | Hi |
18:02.29 | drom | Hi |
18:04.12 | drom | I guess I'll ... er ... nominate Xho's Kicathian Dissension for story, if not featured already. |
18:04.30 | drom | The new updates to it looks promising |
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18:05.19 | Ghelae | Hello. |
18:07.18 | drom | Add Siege of Vasuband and "Agent Nu's Andromedan City Break" |
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18:12.05 | drom | Cyrannain: Seen my nominations? |
18:14.41 | Cyrannian | Indeed, though could you hold off the Vasuband nomination until next month, it'll be finished by then |
18:14.53 | drom | Alright |
18:15.16 | Charles_Murray | Brand new map of the Commonwealth of French Andromeda, I'm overhauling a lot of the fiction: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/57/Map_of_the_Commonwealth_of_French_Andromeda.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908181341 |
18:15.21 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: write your fog war section grrrr |
18:15.31 | Imperios | Alright |
18:15.54 | drom | Cyrannian: In place of it, if you allow me, I'll nominate my Testament |
18:16.08 | Cyrannian | No problem with that |
18:16.46 | Cyrannian | I'll nominate the Sequence by Liquid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Sequence |
18:17.22 | drom | Good choice |
18:18.53 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: C'est une carte tres excellente ^^ |
18:18.59 | Charles_Murray | Merci ^.^ |
18:19.31 | Charles_Murray | I'd like to nominate the Second War of Mirusian Coalition, which a bunch of Mirusian users, Knight_Alien, and myself have been working very hard on |
18:20.38 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/GTkldMo.jpg |
18:21.59 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:September_2015:_Featured_Story_Poll |
18:26.06 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:September_2015:_Featured_Empire_Poll |
18:26.59 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:September_2015:_Featured_Captain_Poll |
18:27.36 | drom | Tiem for creature nominations |
18:28.11 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Big_Mac_index_50USD_2columns.png ...Is food that expensive in Brazil? |
18:28.43 | OluapPlayer | Fast food, yes |
18:29.03 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:September_2015:_Featured_Creature_Poll |
18:29.59 | Imperios | Why's that? |
18:36.05 | OluapPlayer | Taxes |
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19:04.36 | Hachiman | I voted Caranye for Featured Captain because breasts |
19:04.38 | Hachiman | Hai again |
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19:11.43 | NoblaSourEmpire | Hey guys |
19:16.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
19:22.01 | NoblaSourEmpire | wuz up? |
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19:45.23 | ZF101 | Hello everyone. |
19:50.14 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/Gy4kAM4.png http://i.imgur.com/9cKArq9.png http://i.imgur.com/YUkxhoO.png http://i.imgur.com/TNYfdCi.png So I made this out of boredom |
19:50.30 | Imperios | Hi |
19:51.35 | drom | Wormy_away: I gave you this link did I? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jek6vQ0GGUA |
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19:53.43 | Wormy_away | nope |
19:53.52 | Wormy_away | Just been onn a 7 miler |
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19:55.09 | drom | Nice |
19:57.14 | Wormy_away | drom: Its old I guess you've seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhRkde2cTo |
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19:57.37 | drom | Oh yeah, I did see it |
20:00.58 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/2aksXUO |
20:01.31 | Wormy_away | "You mean they have to get a permit to climb that set of stairs? That's fucked up." |
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20:09.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
20:11.39 | Wormy_away | bl dinner |
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20:23.56 | NoblaSourEmpire | Guys |
20:23.56 | TekDroid | >.> This class has an article on a feminist analysis of technology. -.- |
20:24.15 | NoblaSourEmpire | send me a link |
20:25.21 | NoblaSourEmpire | XD |
20:25.29 | NoblaSourEmpire | I wanna Gawk at how terrible it is |
20:27.13 | TekDroid | I can't even find it atm |
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20:27.43 | NoblaSourEmpire | mmkay |
20:27.44 | NoblaSourEmpire | anyway |
20:27.46 | NoblaSourEmpire | i think |
20:27.50 | NoblaSourEmpire | its time |
20:27.53 | NoblaSourEmpire | we made a new fic war |
20:29.26 | TekDroid | Well, we have ones going on gigaquadrant-wide for the most part. |
20:31.13 | NoblaSourEmpire | really? |
20:31.31 | TekDroid | Several IIRC |
20:31.51 | NoblaSourEmpire | you can have a war in Irc? |
20:31.53 | NoblaSourEmpire | XD |
20:32.04 | NoblaSourEmpire | what do you do shout insults then rage quit? |
20:32.10 | drom | It is "If I Recall Correctly" |
20:32.17 | NoblaSourEmpire | oh XD |
20:32.25 | NoblaSourEmpire | well i feel retarded |
20:32.51 | drom | TekDroid: Prehaps you should burn the university down |
20:33.17 | TekDroid | ...Ihope it gets better. |
20:33.38 | TekDroid | Apparently there's a transhumanism unit at the end |
20:34.33 | NoblaSourEmpire | why |
20:37.15 | TekDroid | It's a course about technology |
20:39.42 | drom | TekDroid: We also stumble across these in Linguistics, Civics and that course. |
20:40.33 | drom | Somehow as how I've preceived your situation, ours is milder and is rather a find rather than a central subject occupying the class. |
20:40.54 | Wormy_ | Can't feminise geology |
20:41.18 | NoblaSourEmpire | what do feminists have to do with tecnology |
20:42.20 | TekDroid | Wormy_: https://xkcd.com/1082/ |
20:42.28 | Wormy_ | I'm not attacking women in science just for the noting, but I can't see how a postmodern analysis contributes to finding oil reserves, unless they try to say boreholes are biased by male genitalia |
20:42.58 | Wormy_ | Lol |
20:43.07 | TekDroid | NoblaSourEmpire: Some wierd "science" philosophy movement |
20:43.11 | Wormy_ | Maybe they'll attack the geology jokes |
20:43.34 | Wormy_ | This movement is really postmodern, and if anything, antiscience |
20:44.41 | TekDroid | forgot the name |
20:46.15 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:46.41 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
20:46.53 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:46.59 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
20:47.06 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
20:47.37 | Wormy_ | "Electrons are like the IRA, they don't just go away!" |
20:48.04 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:48.18 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:50.16 | Wormy_ | they laughed though |
20:50.36 | Wormy_ | something these Twitter dogooders don't understand: humour |
20:54.28 | Wormy_ | I bet they are straight from the freezer #internetislies |
20:54.31 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/g94Y5RG |
20:54.33 | Wormy_ | woops |
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20:59.48 | TekDroid | ...oh god, we haven't even got to the postmodernist part yet. |
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21:08.14 | Wormy_ | Debate them in the Q/A, if you want, I can give you some refutations to postmodern philosophy |
21:08.45 | Wormy_ | It is like a disease infecting universities |
21:10.42 | TekDroid | ...I tried looking up this article. All I found were cringeworthy postmodernist articles that cite it |
21:11.04 | TekDroid | "Towards a feminist assessment of reproductive technology" |
21:11.09 | TekDroid | For example |
21:13.04 | Wormy_ | Scientific theories are conjectural by their nature, which is true. But postmodernists declare they are arbitrary narratives, some even claiming science is arrogant. This is because postmodern theories *resist criticism* and attempts to change them. They are rational because they actually construct a collective authority and so is charged with its own criticism |
21:13.08 | Wormy_ | Self-reufuting |
21:13.25 | Wormy_ | *they are NOT rational, sorry |
21:14.38 | TekDroid | Though thankfully the lecture has mostly been a far less cringeworthy "technology can be both good and bad at the same time". I think he skipped the worst of the postmodernism in favour of the stuff that actually makes sense. |
21:15.10 | Wormy_ | Rational theories strive for good, hard-to-vary explanations that are not based on the decree of an authortary, objective reality does not meet anyone's prior perspectives. In fact is is alien to them. |
21:16.58 | Wormy_ | That's good |
21:18.40 | Wormy_ | Notably, a scientist published a hoax paper to a top postmodern journal made to "feel good", and it passed their peer review https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair |
21:19.15 | TekDroid | I remember you talking about that |
21:23.40 | NoblaSourEmpire | guys |
21:23.46 | NoblaSourEmpire | are solar Sails allowed in fictions? |
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21:25.20 | Xho | I am back from that place |
21:26.48 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: We're currently writing a song and it sounds sort of Mass Effect-ish, so we've taken to naming the song "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite store on the Citadel" |
21:28.18 | OluapPlayer | hur |
21:28.39 | NoblaSourEmpire | lol |
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21:33.26 | NoblaSourEmpire | what is a spore cast? |
21:34.32 | drom_ | A collection of Spore creations |
21:34.49 | drom_ | Can contain your and others creations |
21:34.52 | NoblaSourEmpire | ok cool |
21:36.24 | NoblaSourEmpire | Holy Debug squid of some Bolivian Kid! |
21:36.35 | NoblaSourEmpire | I found another game i created in spore |
21:36.41 | NoblaSourEmpire | not just the creature |
21:36.46 | NoblaSourEmpire | but the actual other game! |
21:40.53 | Xho | ? |
21:42.02 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:VasubandSiege05.png http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:VasubandSiege06.png http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:InquisitorMorhioven.png - c |
21:42.04 | NoblaSourEmpire | this is so cool |
21:42.29 | Xho | Kit'tharojanaril - wat u lookin at fishman |
21:42.40 | OluapPlayer | Morhioven is spooky-looking |
21:42.45 | Wormy_ | To answer your ealier question, solar Sails are allowed in fiction, but it will not achieve FTL. Laser sails are better (using laser pressure to move the sail) |
21:43.08 | Cyrannian | We should use Kit'tharojanaril at some point come to think of it |
21:44.49 | NoblaSourEmpire | also i have a question |
21:45.02 | NoblaSourEmpire | couldent over use of laser fire harm the Galaxy? |
21:45.23 | NoblaSourEmpire | if the laser passes through whatever it shot it dosent just burn out it keeps going forever |
21:45.35 | NoblaSourEmpire | so it could pottentialy hit a planet |
21:45.36 | NoblaSourEmpire | or a sun |
21:45.39 | NoblaSourEmpire | or a ship |
21:45.43 | NoblaSourEmpire | or a random person |
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21:46.06 | Cyrannian | Space is unspeakably vast and incredibly empty, so the chances are very low. |
21:46.26 | NoblaSourEmpire | true true |
21:46.43 | NoblaSourEmpire | but there are millions trillions an infinate amount of planets |
21:47.53 | NoblaSourEmpire | and even more living beings ships suns and ateroids |
21:48.01 | NoblaSourEmpire | all of these could be important |
21:48.03 | NoblaSourEmpire | and if they are |
21:48.52 | Wormy_ | There is no theoretical upper limit to a laser, but it would not be practical to construct. |
21:49.24 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Siege_of_Vasuband#The_Final_Effort - Three new chapters |
21:49.26 | Wormy_ | Remember that lasers disperse over time, over a wider volume, and this diminishes their power over distance |
21:49.39 | NoblaSourEmpire | Wormy a laser isnt just a beam of energy that burns up and is just gone after it hits its target |
21:49.45 | Wormy_ | Even if the light goes on forever, lasers are not infinitely thin |
21:49.55 | NoblaSourEmpire | energy can not be destroyed or created |
21:49.58 | NoblaSourEmpire | it is changed |
21:50.03 | drom_ | Cyrannian: Noice |
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21:50.36 | Wormy_ | What I said does not in any way defy the laws of conversation of energy |
21:51.36 | Wormy_ | You are right that the laser will be transformed And the beam will widen over distance), which supports my view a laser would not practically destroy an entire galaxy unless the laser was pointed below the disk and had the width of the galaxy.# |
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21:55.25 | NoblaSourEmpire | back anyway |
21:55.32 | NoblaSourEmpire | it wouldent destroy a galaxy |
21:55.34 | NoblaSourEmpire | or a planet |
21:55.55 | NoblaSourEmpire | but a powerfull wartime lazer could destroy buildings |
21:55.58 | NoblaSourEmpire | veicles |
21:56.00 | NoblaSourEmpire | people |
21:56.04 | NoblaSourEmpire | even ships |
21:56.21 | Wormy_ | The laser's beam will get wider over time |
21:56.27 | NoblaSourEmpire | yep |
21:56.47 | NoblaSourEmpire | and that will make it able to kill mutiple or bigger things |
21:56.53 | Wormy_ | No |
21:57.01 | Wormy_ | It will diminish it's power |
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21:57.50 | NoblaSourEmpire | wormy either way |
21:57.56 | NoblaSourEmpire | before it diminishes itself |
21:58.14 | Cyrannian | Hello Random! |
21:58.14 | NoblaSourEmpire | it still has a pretty good chance of un intentionally hitting something |
21:58.26 | The_Randomness | Hello |
21:58.27 | Wormy_ | If the Death Star's superlaser missed Alderaan, and hit a planet in another system 10 light years (or 10 years later), it will most likely not destroy a planet |
21:58.34 | The_Randomness | ^ |
21:58.45 | NoblaSourEmpire | ok but what if it hit the leader of the planet |
21:58.55 | NoblaSourEmpire | and the people of he planet declared war |
21:59.05 | NoblaSourEmpire | bam 5000 year interstellar war |
21:59.15 | Wormy_ | He might not even be aware a few photons of the superlaser hit him from 10 years ago |
21:59.21 | The_Randomness | ^ |
21:59.44 | NoblaSourEmpire | ok what about 1 light year away |
21:59.45 | NoblaSourEmpire | or 2 |
21:59.56 | NoblaSourEmpire | not all planets are 10 light years away |
22:00.15 | Wormy_ | I haven't done the calcs so I can't be certain, but in principle, he probably won't even see it. It is why supernovas on the other side of the galaxy would be no more than a bright star. |
22:00.18 | drom_ | Oh hello The_Randomness! |
22:02.00 | NoblaSourEmpire | wormy |
22:02.06 | Wormy_ | Yeah? |
22:02.08 | NoblaSourEmpire | you must admit its a possibility |
22:02.44 | Wormy_ | Lets put it this way: I wouldn't sweat over missed superlaser shots. |
22:04.05 | NoblaSourEmpire | Wormy say what you like but i think we should all switch back to Proton And anti matter Missiles and bombs |
22:04.24 | The_Randomness | u wot m8 |
22:04.49 | Wormy_ | Here one could work out the calcs to learn at what distance a superlaser from the Death Star becomes a bright star, to even invisible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance |
22:05.03 | The_Randomness | First of all, why do you suggest this in the first place? |
22:05.34 | NoblaSourEmpire | because |
22:05.40 | NoblaSourEmpire | lasers are Impractical |
22:05.46 | The_Randomness | Why? |
22:05.52 | Wormy_ | Or even http://www.quora.com/Is-the-light-from-lasers-reduced-by-the-inverse-square-law-as-distance-grows-similar-to-other-light-sources |
22:07.21 | NoblaSourEmpire | because |
22:07.36 | Wormy_ | They are impractical weapons from transtellar distances |
22:07.47 | NoblaSourEmpire | lasers burn and are centered around heat and vaporization |
22:07.49 | NoblaSourEmpire | therefore |
22:08.14 | NoblaSourEmpire | Anytype of Heat Resistance Tecnology if strong enough could repel them |
22:08.20 | The_Randomness | They don't require reloading, they only require power input. |
22:08.20 | NoblaSourEmpire | also Plasma Lasers |
22:08.24 | NoblaSourEmpire | are the same thing |
22:08.37 | The_Randomness | I hate to be condescending, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. |
22:09.17 | NoblaSourEmpire | if a plasma shield with Denser Plasma then the Plasma Weapon being fired could be constructed the Plasma Weapon would be pushed back |
22:09.33 | Wormy_ | There is no upper limit to have much power can be put into a laser |
22:09.39 | Wormy_ | *how much |
22:09.46 | Wormy_ | physically anyway |
22:09.55 | Tek0516 | No matter how much "heat resistance" you have the energy will still be applied to the object. Continue applying energy and that object will melt. |
22:10.24 | Tek0516 | Or bend or something |
22:10.33 | Tek0516 | <PROTECTED> |
22:10.46 | The_Randomness | Or chemically decompose |
22:10.47 | NoblaSourEmpire | Tek |
22:10.57 | Wormy_ | And plasma is not the same as a laser, though both fall under "directed energy weapons", lasers are focused light (although they might be focused by plasma in some way) |
22:11.04 | The_Randomness | ^ |
22:11.12 | Tek0516 | <PROTECTED> |
22:11.16 | NoblaSourEmpire | if some sort of shielding that is Resistant to heat entirely could be applied |
22:11.19 | Tek0516 | ... |
22:11.28 | NoblaSourEmpire | no matter how long you apply laser fire |
22:11.29 | Tek0516 | that doesn't work |
22:11.29 | The_Randomness | That is not possible. |
22:11.34 | NoblaSourEmpire | it would not melt |
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22:12.20 | The_Randomness | You are suggesting that no matter how much energy I put into this magical substance, it will not change in any meaningful way? |
22:13.10 | The_Randomness | In which case it either does not react with photons or whatever matter you're throwing at it, or it violates conservation of energy. |
22:13.18 | The_Randomness | er, interact |
22:13.50 | Wormy_ | And if it does not react with photons, it would be chemically inert and a useless armour (or the laser would go straight through the armour) |
22:13.54 | The_Randomness | The first would make it not do anything useful, and the second is not physically possible. |
22:14.23 | Wormy_ | The other is a "perfect mirror", but there are too many physical constraints that do not allow a 100% reflecting mirror to be built |
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22:14.59 | NoblaSourEmpire_ | Back |
22:15.00 | NoblaSourEmpire_ | anyway |
22:15.03 | NoblaSourEmpire_ | yeah |
22:15.10 | The_Randomness | What was the last message you got from us? |
22:15.45 | NoblaSourEmpire_ | from random |
22:16.06 | The_Randomness | My one asking you about the properties of you proposed thing? |
22:16.06 | Wormy_ | [23:11] <@The_Randomness> You are suggesting that no matter how much energy I put into this magical substance, it will not change in any meaningful way? [23:12] <@The_Randomness> In which case it either does not react with photons or whatever matter you're throwing at it, or it violates conservation of energy. [23:12] <@The_Randomness> er, interact [23:13] <Wormy_> And if it does not react with photons, it would be chemically inert |
22:16.23 | Wormy_ | laser would go straight through the armour) [23:13] <@The_Randomness> The first would make it not do anything useful, and the second is not physically possible. [23:13] <Wormy_> The other is a "perfect mirror", but there are too many physical constraints that do not allow a 100% reflecting mirror to be built |
22:16.29 | Wormy_ | Reposted fot you ^ |
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22:19.13 | TekDroid | You may need to re-repost |
22:19.49 | Wormy_ | sent |
22:19.55 | NoblaSourEMpire | anyway |
22:20.14 | NoblaSourEMpire | what |
22:20.19 | NoblaSourEMpire | no i didnt |
22:20.21 | NoblaSourEMpire | wtf |
22:20.29 | Wormy_ | That's your old nick |
22:22.13 | drom_ | ~~test |
22:22.45 | TekDroid | you're still here drom |
22:22.51 | TekDroid | *drom_ |
22:22.59 | drom_ | I know |
22:23.11 | drom_ | I wanted to test out if infobot can parse double prefixes |
22:23.19 | TekDroid | oh |
22:23.41 | drom_ | ~~2+2 |
22:23.43 | NoblaSourEMpire | Wtf |
22:23.46 | NoblaSourEMpire | is this |
22:23.47 | drom_ | Neither that |
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22:24.32 | NoblaSourEmpire | Guy |
22:24.46 | NoblaSourEmpire | is Genetic Engineering allowed? |
22:25.01 | NoblaSourEmpire | dose it violate any laws of some major Federation |
22:26.18 | TekDroid | If it's not something too crazy. We have examples of many scales |
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22:27.34 | NoblaSourEmpire | How about Making it so you have Full control of your nerves so you can Electrocute or Produce Electricity like an ELectric Eel |
22:27.45 | NoblaSourEmpire | is that insane |
22:28.15 | The_Randomness | Yes, that is absurd |
22:28.19 | NoblaSourEmpire | why |
22:28.53 | NoblaSourEmpire | there are definetly animals in the fic universe that can produce electricity |
22:29.17 | The_Randomness | Yeah, but let's take a human body as an example. |
22:29.27 | NoblaSourEmpire | crossing your dna with theirs isnt that insane |
22:29.34 | NoblaSourEmpire | ? |
22:29.52 | The_Randomness | It does not actually produce that much energy, and the animals that do produce electricity to harm others have specialized organs to do so. |
22:30.19 | The_Randomness | And it isn't just a matter of inserting some dna into another creature and you get superpowers or what have you |
22:30.42 | The_Randomness | The body has no existing mechanism to make such an organ |
22:30.49 | NoblaSourEmpire | could you clone those organs and surgically implant them into someone? |
22:31.14 | The_Randomness | Yes, you could, but they would most likely be rejected by the host, and if they weren't, they wouldn't do anything |
22:32.09 | NoblaSourEmpire | <PROTECTED> |
22:32.47 | The_Randomness | It's not like you're transplanting a kidney or something, the body has no existing mechanism to even interact with the organ in the first place. |
22:33.14 | The_Randomness | And why bother doing that when you could make a simple device that could electrocute someone? |
22:33.30 | NoblaSourEmpire | Then why not Also clone the Mechanism that is in the creature you took it from |
22:33.40 | The_Randomness | Same problem |
22:33.42 | NoblaSourEmpire | because devices can be taken |
22:34.01 | NoblaSourEmpire | you could hook the organ up to the brain with the same mechanism in the other creatures body |
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22:34.23 | Wormy_away | May return for fic editing/ |
22:34.47 | The_Randomness | You don't even understand what I mean by that. What I'm saying is that the body cannot interact with the organ in any meaningful way. |
22:36.04 | The_Randomness | It is not designed to accommodate this organ, unlike the animal from which it's from. |
22:36.33 | NoblaSourEmpire | then if a hybrid of the creature and your creature were created |
22:36.39 | NoblaSourEmpire | *was |
22:37.03 | NoblaSourEmpire | it would already be designed to accommodate or use the organ |
22:37.05 | The_Randomness | In which case you would require a species that can reproduce with yours |
22:37.18 | NoblaSourEmpire | how hard is it to find one of those? |
22:37.28 | The_Randomness | ... |
22:37.44 | NoblaSourEmpire | Every Heard of the Anthropod theory? |
22:37.46 | The_Randomness | I'm done. |
22:38.11 | NoblaSourEmpire | ok |
22:38.34 | NoblaSourEmpire | so far |
22:43.26 | NoblaSourEmpire | I know its imposible to geneticaly engineer |
22:43.33 | NoblaSourEmpire | CReatures with Poison sacks |
22:43.51 | NoblaSourEmpire | creatures with The ability to electrocute stuff |
22:44.03 | NoblaSourEmpire | creatures that have any un natural Ability |
22:44.08 | NoblaSourEmpire | an creatures imune to diseases |
22:44.12 | NoblaSourEmpire | what else is there |
22:47.51 | NoblaSourEmpire | How about Creatures with extended life spans? |
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22:47.58 | The_Randomness | Hello |
22:48.01 | NoblaSourEmpire | hello |
22:48.05 | NoblaSourEmpire | wb |
22:48.10 | Wormy_away | Hi |
22:48.52 | Wormy_away | Creatures with extended lifespans are not beyond the stretch of genetic engineering I imagine, but it would not be the only factor. Stem cell research is more likely to open up that area. |
22:49.41 | Wormy_away | Plants have already been modified through breeding or engineering to be more immune to certain diseases |
22:50.51 | NoblaSourEmpire | I read any articale about genetic enginering making people have a lower risk for Alzheimers |
22:51.24 | NoblaSourEmpire | (sorry i cant spell that word XD) |
22:51.49 | NoblaSourEmpire | (don't judge me i am in 4th grade XD) |
22:54.25 | NoblaSourEmpire | *an |
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22:56.45 | drom_ | I do really wonder how far long will my bot last when ya all try to crack it |
22:57.00 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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23:08.10 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
23:08.11 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
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23:11.23 | NoblaSourEmpire | anyway |
23:11.40 | NoblaSourEmpire | how is everyone? |
23:12.32 | DrodoEmpire | Fine I suppose |
23:14.16 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah alright |
23:15.44 | NoblaSourEmpire | i am trying to think of something to add to my empire |
23:15.47 | NoblaSourEmpire | a new tecnology |
23:15.50 | NoblaSourEmpire | something |
23:17.49 | NoblaSourEmpire | could i give my people a robotic arm |
23:17.55 | NoblaSourEmpire | or a robotic eye |
23:18.14 | DrodoEmpire | Every citizen? |
23:19.06 | NoblaSourEmpire | no |
23:19.10 | NoblaSourEmpire | the millitery |
23:19.22 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
23:19.25 | Liquid_Ink | Sure |
23:19.32 | NoblaSourEmpire | cybernetic implants |
23:19.45 | DrodoEmpire | Bionically enhancing every soldier would indeed improve their combat effectiveness |
23:19.54 | DrodoEmpire | Though it'd be quite expensive |
23:20.27 | DrodoEmpire | So to compensate, the army may have to be a wee smaller |
23:20.43 | NoblaSourEmpire | ok |
23:20.45 | NoblaSourEmpire | what else |
23:20.52 | NoblaSourEmpire | how about genetic Eneginnering |
23:20.55 | DrodoEmpire | Nothing really. I'd need to hear more |
23:21.00 | DrodoEmpire | That's also possible |
23:21.17 | DrodoEmpire | Though I think you'd have to breed soldiers at that point |
23:21.24 | NoblaSourEmpire | true true |
23:21.27 | NoblaSourEmpire | that would be weird |
23:21.31 | NoblaSourEmpire | like a soldier factory |
23:21.34 | DrodoEmpire | So perhaps it'd be better to leave genetically-enhanced soldiers for the elite |
23:21.40 | NoblaSourEmpire | yeah |
23:22.03 | NoblaSourEmpire | could you make someones brain Better for lack of a Better word with genetic ENginering |
23:22.27 | NoblaSourEmpire | like able to proccess information faster |
23:22.32 | DrodoEmpire | Make them more aware, give them faster reflexes, better senses |
23:22.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
23:22.34 | DrodoEmpire | Exactly |
23:22.54 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps either reduce or completely eliminate their ability to panic or to fear |
23:23.35 | NoblaSourEmpire | You know what? |
23:23.49 | DrodoEmpire | As really 99% of battles end in one army routing out of panic, and that's also when most of the casaulties rack up. |
23:23.53 | NoblaSourEmpire | i think my entire army will just be normal soldiers but certain captains and generals and other elite troops |
23:23.54 | DrodoEmpire | What? |
23:23.59 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. |
23:24.03 | DrodoEmpire | That makes a lot of sense |
23:24.18 | NoblaSourEmpire | will be geneticaly modified |
23:24.22 | NoblaSourEmpire | and given Implants |
23:24.52 | DrodoEmpire | Like take Greek phalanx combat for example, very few losses happened during the battle itself, but when one line topped another over or forced it to turn and run, the slaughter was indescribably appalling. |
23:25.03 | NoblaSourEmpire | yep |
23:25.04 | DrodoEmpire | *toppled another over |
23:25.17 | NoblaSourEmpire | which is why its better to have your troops in a moving circle |
23:25.24 | NoblaSourEmpire | if you run you dont have to turn |
23:25.26 | DrodoEmpire | Not really. |
23:25.35 | NoblaSourEmpire | and your back insnt exposed |
23:26.11 | DrodoEmpire | Well no I'm describing a push of pike, when two lines march up to eachother and get into a bit of a "shoving match" |
23:26.19 | NoblaSourEmpire | oh |
23:26.21 | NoblaSourEmpire | i get it |
23:26.23 | DrodoEmpire | A pike square is effective, and can't be flanked (really) but occupies less area and is extremely vulnerable to artillery and arrows. |
23:26.48 | DrodoEmpire | Plus they really can't maneuver. |
23:27.16 | DrodoEmpire | Unless you're like the Swiss pikemen, who could go into a full-tilt sprint and retain formation you aren't going anywhere in a formation as complicated as a square. |
23:28.12 | NoblaSourEmpire | wait |
23:28.13 | NoblaSourEmpire | drodo |
23:28.14 | DrodoEmpire | That said they are *great* against cavalry assaults, as Waterloo shown. |
23:28.16 | DrodoEmpire | But anyway |
23:28.17 | NoblaSourEmpire | if fear is gone |
23:28.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yes? |
23:28.27 | NoblaSourEmpire | that could be very dangerious |
23:28.31 | DrodoEmpire | Could be. |
23:28.38 | NoblaSourEmpire | fear keeps us alive in many diffrent situations |
23:28.47 | DrodoEmpire | They'd obey without question and probably take huge casulties |
23:28.56 | DrodoEmpire | If you aren't concerned about that then its good |
23:28.57 | NoblaSourEmpire | yep |
23:29.17 | NoblaSourEmpire | it would be pretty much removing your fight or flight reflex |
23:29.21 | DrodoEmpire | Because then there's *no stopping* an assault until every single one of the troopers is dead. |
23:29.45 | DrodoEmpire | Remember that in almost every battle in human history, actually casaulties rarely topped 50% of the force |
23:29.59 | DrodoEmpire | More often, it was closer to 25 or even as low as 10%. |
23:30.08 | DrodoEmpire | Before one side was routed |
23:30.18 | DrodoEmpire | *actual casualties |
23:31.28 | DrodoEmpire | And almost all of those were from the retreat, not the battle itself |
23:31.52 | DrodoEmpire | So more accurately, depending on the era casualties during the actual fighting were closer to five percent. |
23:32.26 | DrodoEmpire | So a force of 10 000 may only actually take some 500 losses in a pitched battle. |
23:32.54 | NoblaSourEmpire | yeah i guess so |
23:33.33 | DrodoEmpire | I find that in movies and whatnot war is exaggerated in almost every aspect, but especially in casualties. :p |
23:33.41 | DrodoEmpire | And where those casualties happen |
23:33.45 | DrodoEmpire | *where and when |
23:34.38 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
23:36.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, one mor thing |
23:36.38 | DrodoEmpire | *more |
23:36.51 | NoblaSourEmpire | ? |
23:40.16 | NoblaSourEmpire | you dere? |
23:41.25 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry |
23:41.28 | DrodoEmpire | As I was saying |
23:41.39 | DrodoEmpire | The wars of the 18th and 19th centuries had considerably higher casualty rates than previous eras |
23:42.00 | DrodoEmpire | To the point that, after the Napoleonic Wars, France's population was so devastated that it never recovered |
23:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | Losing almost 40% of its able-bodied men. |
23:42.56 | NoblaSourEmpire | it still hasnt? |
23:47.37 | NoblaSourEmpire | ? |
23:48.40 | DrodoEmpire | Not really. |
23:49.10 | DrodoEmpire | Like its population isn't as large as it *should* be thanks to the war, and I believe there's still more women than men |
23:49.37 | DrodoEmpire | (This is because up until *very* recently only young men were enlisted into the military) |
23:50.04 | NoblaSourEmpire | is that why there is a stereotype that all french men are push overs and all that? |
23:50.28 | DrodoEmpire | There's a stereotype that France as a country is a pushover yeah |
23:50.36 | DrodoEmpire | One that just... Isn't... True. |
23:50.39 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
23:51.08 | DrodoEmpire | Like the Napoleonic Wars for example, France conquered continental Europe *multiple* times. |
23:51.37 | DrodoEmpire | And French soldiers made up the majority in the trenches during the first world war. |
23:52.08 | DrodoEmpire | Plus the French infantry were well known for the ferocity of their bayonet charges |
23:52.26 | DrodoEmpire | And don't even get me *started* on the Cuirassiers, and Carabiniers. XD |
23:54.21 | NoblaSourEmpire | and the Hessian Cavalry |
23:55.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
23:55.17 | Tek0516 | Even the surrender stereotype is horribly wrong for WWII. |
23:55.40 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
23:55.58 | DrodoEmpire | I think its just an idiotic stereotype made up by the Americans. |
23:56.43 | NoblaSourEmpire | pfft americans |
23:56.50 | NoblaSourEmpire | ugh i hate advanced math |
23:57.00 | Tek0516 | By the time they surrender they'd fought a serious conflict until the country was overrun and they helped evacuate a huge number of allied forces |
23:57.12 | NoblaSourEmpire | 4th grade sucks balls |
23:58.49 | NoblaSourEmpire | plus i have to go to advanced math which also sucks. everyone else has to do long division and i am stuck with algebra |