| 00:00.14 | Hachiman | I think that scale is one of the problems that Spore suffers since, as mentioned prior, it leaves the player with little to do |
| 00:01.36 | NobleSour | yep |
| 00:04.10 | Wormy_STO | Well its a problem for mainstream gamers. But if you are into simulation games its endless fun |
| 00:04.22 | Wormy_STO | Take Space Engine, all you do is fly about |
| 00:05.14 | Wormy_STO | I suspect No Man's Sky and Infinity: The Quest for Earth will suffer the same problem |
| 00:05.46 | Wormy_STO | But players who like to add their own imagination in will find them fun |
| 00:07.36 | NobleSour | Mainstream gamers are well... Mainstream they are more common and will pay more which can go to developement addons to the game and programing cost |
| 00:07.38 | Technobliterator | I don't know where you got the idea of "Spore did not make much upon release" |
| 00:07.47 | Technobliterator | Spore sold, and continues to sell, pretty well |
| 00:07.56 | NobleSour | exactly |
| 00:08.04 | Technobliterator | The only reason it lost a lot of sales was because of how much it was pirated |
| 00:08.10 | Wormy_STO | It sold a lot, but I did read it was far off expected sales |
| 00:08.12 | Technobliterator | a direct response to the DRM |
| 00:08.17 | NobleSour | back in the early 2000s spore if i remember correctly was pretty popular |
| 00:09.07 | NobleSour | it only got less popular because again once you get to the space stage it gets pretty repetitive and kind of boring and it gets even more repitive and boring as you progress and defeat the grox |
| 00:09.28 | NobleSour | if spore had something new |
| 00:09.46 | NobleSour | something that could be done over and over and continuessly forever |
| 00:09.56 | NobleSour | it would do Just as well as current/mainstream games today |
| 00:10.34 | NobleSour | Modern Gamers who like simulation games go for things like minecraft and terraria because after you get the best gear you can go out and play the game with other players and people |
| 00:11.00 | NobleSour | if minecraft didnt have Multiplayer it wouldnt have been NEARLy as popular as it is |
| 00:12.21 | Hachiman | >something that could be done over and over and continuously forever |
| 00:12.26 | Hachiman | That's what the editors are for |
| 00:12.53 | NobleSour | but the editors get boring as well |
| 00:13.11 | Hachiman | This is why you mod them hur |
| 00:13.26 | NobleSour | there are the same parts used over and over and eventually even with mods it starts to lose purpose or fun |
| 00:14.45 | NobleSour | spore NEEDS something New to jump start its old spark that dragged people in in the early 2000s |
| 00:28.55 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, why do the Rogue Boyz hate Zr'Ahgloth, other than because he joined UNO? |
| 00:29.13 | OluapPlayer | That's kinda the main reason |
| 00:29.24 | Technobliterator | As in, why would they hate him before he did? I mean, "because Fre'kloar told them to after they rejected him" doesn't really work |
| 00:29.48 | Technobliterator | So far I have; |
| 00:31.02 | Hachiman | Why not hur |
| 00:31.09 | Hachiman | It sounds like something Loron would do |
| 00:31.15 | Technobliterator | Many of Zr'Ahgloth's detractors, such as those in {{fiction|Da Rogue Boyz}}, felt that Zr'Ahgloth had abandoned it once again by being enslaved by the Kralgon. Prior to this, many felt that Zr'Ahgloth was far too controlled by his own ego, and his restoration of Loron tradition excluded empires outside of his own. Others felt that Zr'Ahgloth's abandonment of tradition went too far, and Loron such as {{captain|Gratz' |
| 00:31.15 | Technobliterator | kaoz}} suffered from his destruction of orphanages, which involved killing the orphans as well as destroying the building, out of his own laziness to find them new homes. |
| 00:32.32 | OluapPlayer | I think that's good enough |
| 00:33.13 | OluapPlayer | The Loron could have felt that, while he was the strongest, he didn't show it enough for them all to have his respect |
| 00:33.14 | Technobliterator | I'll add: "For the most part, many of the Loron outside of Da Propa Big Loron Empire merely hated Zr'Ahgloth as it was the "cool" thing to hate a popular warboss, and {{captain|Fre'kloar}} demanded hatred for him as Zr'Ahgloth had rejected him." |
| 00:33.20 | Technobliterator | Mhm, yeah |
| 00:34.47 | OluapPlayer | Hating because it's cool is a bit meh though |
| 00:34.49 | OluapPlayer | I'd not add that |
| 00:37.06 | Technobliterator | eh, ok |
| 00:42.50 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Zr%27Ahgloth :oo |
| 00:42.52 | Technobliterator | rewritten |
| 00:43.02 | Technobliterator | It should...not suck now |
| 00:43.20 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 00:44.48 | Technobliterator | and too lazy to rewrite Galot or Galot Republic pages |
| 00:44.54 | Technobliterator | dunno if I need to do anymore work on Loron page |
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| 00:48.28 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 00:48.46 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry I've not been on, the internet was cut out for a bit. :p |
| 00:49.06 | Technobliterator | hi |
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| 02:50.52 | GD12 | hello |
| 02:50.54 | GD12 | blinks |
| 02:51.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 02:51.01 | GD12 | Charles_Murray : long time no see |
| 02:51.32 | Charles_Murray | Heeeeey! |
| 02:51.45 | Charles_Murray | Please let me know what you think of the stuff I just added to the GXS ;) |
| 02:51.50 | GD12 | link? |
| 02:51.53 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism#The_war_in_Mirus_creates_new_divisions |
| 02:51.58 | Charles_Murray | First time I'm writing in a long time |
| 02:52.31 | GD12 | Emperor Alexander the Great |
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| 02:56.18 | GD12_ | dumternet |
| 02:56.35 | GD12_ | [19:53] <GD12> lol its just getting worse and worse for France it seems [19:54] <GD12> "the Allied territories in Mirus were going to be completely surrendered to the Sovereign Mirusian Coalition. The French, who would have raised effective opposition to the deal in order to maintain control over French Mirus, had not been included in the discussion." [19:54] <GD12> betrayal.mp7 |
| 02:56.38 | GD12_ | inb4 i pinged |
| 02:57.55 | Charles_Murray | GD12 lol |
| 04:14.57 | OfficerJackal | Goddamn it got quiet in here. |
| 04:15.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah. :p |
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| 04:52.10 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/dErnnAg |
| 04:52.46 | OfficerJackal | Grand Theft Coruscant |
| 04:54.11 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
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| 09:51.35 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:49.21 | Technobliterator | uh, I thought the Grox empire were 6 billion years old? |
| 11:50.03 | Liquid_Ink | I didn't think it fit with what the rest of the 'verse had to say. |
| 11:50.16 | Liquid_Ink | Undo it if you see fit. |
| 11:54.37 | Liquid_Ink | Okay I undid it. |
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| 11:55.05 | Wormy_ | I think we should discuss retconning that (though not changing the page yet). 6 billion years *is* a long time for a mere Tier 1 empire. But I know a lot of fiction is based on it. |
| 11:55.47 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
| 11:56.05 | Technobliterator | It doesn't fit in with Borealis fiction, or Ottzello, but I don't know any others |
| 11:56.10 | Liquid_Ink | :'( |
| 11:56.59 | Wormy_ | What Liquid wants is to youthen his Venhokwe, but he can't unless the Grox are |
| 11:57.28 | OluapPlayer | What's this about Borealis? |
| 11:57.29 | Liquid_Ink | I realise all of this has ultimately been a bad idea |
| 11:57.48 | Wormy_ | The Grox |
| 11:57.56 | Technobliterator | As in, making the Grox Empire 6 million years old as opposed to 6 billion |
| 11:58.01 | Liquid_Ink | We were just discussing and making errors about the age of the Grox |
| 11:58.07 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 11:58.21 | OluapPlayer | That would screw Borealis fiction in an unimaginable way |
| 11:58.36 | Technobliterator | It'd screw Ottzello fiction in a...fixable way |
| 11:58.41 | Wormy_ | Anyway on a sidenote, that page needs some TLC. I suggest moving it to the "Grox Meta-Empire" and adding its recent history. |
| 11:58.57 | Technobliterator | I would agree with that |
| 11:59.20 | Technobliterator | It's not the most well-written page on the wiki |
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| 12:01.32 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 12:01.42 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 12:01.52 | AdmiralPanda | warframe vault runs are hilarious: everyone has a different crippling debuff and we're trying to clear already difficult missions |
| 12:03.12 | AdmiralPanda | not only do we have to kill a whole zone's worth of high level enemies, we have to find a hidden vault room, get the artifact within and then survive long enough to extract with it |
| 12:05.01 | Wormy_ | Right I'm going to work on my projects now and hopefully later I can do lotsa fiction |
| 12:06.35 | Wormy_away | I could work on the Exodus |
| 12:06.39 | Wormy_away | later |
| 12:08.45 | OluapPlayer | yey |
| 12:26.19 | AdmiralPanda | with every run the derpy majesty of the silliest stance mod ever comes closer |
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| 13:04.06 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 13:04.20 | OluapPlayer | ~cuddle Hachiman |
| 13:04.20 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
| 13:11.35 | AdmiralPanda | hai buniman |
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| 13:34.47 | AdmiralPanda | ok so some moron just sold me a part worth 55-70 platinum as a part of a bundle for 35 platinum |
| 13:35.40 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 13:37.05 | AdmiralPanda | I love this game because there are three kinds of people in trade chat: morons who have no clue what they're doing, wonderful people who know exactly what they're doing, and normal people who keep things flowing |
| 13:38.49 | AdmiralPanda | I also hate it because the thing I want most right now is an event mod, there's a finite number of them so they're bitch expensive |
| 13:39.46 | Technobliterator | To copypaste me on another channel: |
| 13:39.47 | Technobliterator | <Technobliterator> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 13:39.47 | Technobliterator | <Technobliterator> MGSV IS HERE |
| 13:39.48 | Technobliterator | <Technobliterator> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 13:40.46 | OluapPlayer | shup |
| 13:42.02 | AdmiralPanda | the stance mod I want sells for between 300-450 platinum |
| 13:44.28 | AdmiralPanda | if I was able to sell everything I want to sell, I could afford it, trick is actually selling it |
| 13:45.29 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:46.57 | AdmiralPanda | there's a rather fun thing called vault runs, which involve doing a high level mission with everyone in the squad saddled with a serious debuff, requiring you to find a hidden secret vault, get the artifact within, and extract with it |
| 13:47.19 | AdmiralPanda | and if you succeed you get one of a list of rare mods that can only be acquired that way, and some of them are pretty valuable |
| 13:47.50 | AdmiralPanda | so I joined in a run squad, the host was raging about how he'd done 50 runs and not got a particular mod, four runs later we get it and I just say "this is my fifth run ever" |
| 13:50.27 | Hachiman | olol |
| 13:51.37 | AdmiralPanda | the thing I like about it most though is I do those missions with just a melee weapon all the time, you get all these tryhards that rag on me for not bringing any other weapons and then I usually do the best out of the whole squad |
| 13:51.53 | AdmiralPanda | well, not those missions specifically, but missions with the same enemies |
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| 14:02.30 | drom | Nature's quite scary |
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| 14:04.21 | drom | Echinococco |
| 14:04.25 | drom | is fucking scary |
| 14:06.24 | Hachiman | Oh? |
| 14:07.28 | AdmiralPanda | it's a tapeworm |
| 14:07.52 | Hachiman | Ew |
| 14:07.56 | Hachiman | All tapeworms are ech |
| 14:08.04 | AdmiralPanda | a somewhat nasty one as it can potentially manifest growth cysts in places other than the intestine |
| 14:08.11 | drom | Yeah |
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| 14:10.00 | Hachiman | When you observe parasitic monstrosities such as tapeworms and lice, it really brings into perspective how purpose is not a defining element of the universe |
| 14:10.09 | drom | In "intermediate" hosts; livestock; sheep; cattle; usually any herbivore, they manifest said growth cysts. Usually in the liver, lungs and in some occassions: the brain. |
| 14:11.15 | drom | Humans is technically the dead-end host, because they function as an "intermediate" host, but due to our standards and health, they cannot complete the life cycle. |
| 14:11.52 | drom | The condition where you get echinococco cysts is called echinococcosis |
| 14:12.55 | drom | Sheep liver infested with echinococco cysts (NSFW for the faint-hearted and those are currently eating some food) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Parasite140085-fig1_Boiling_sheep_livers_containing_hydatid_cysts_%28Echinococcus_granulosus%29.tif/lossy-page1-800px-Parasite140085-fig1_Boiling_sheep_livers_containing_hydatid_cysts_%28Echinococcus_granulosus%29.tif.jpg |
| 14:13.40 | AdmiralPanda | I've seen worse |
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| 14:15.00 | AdmiralPanda | muscular ossification is still the creepiest thing for me |
| 14:15.26 | drom | Thankfully, they do only exist in locations with low standards and life expectany |
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| 14:16.26 | drom | Well, countries with standards in a fashion what we call "shithole countries". But they however occur alot in France, USA and Japan |
| 14:16.55 | Hachiman | You mean third world countries hur |
| 14:16.57 | AdmiralPanda | so an arrogant country, a shithole country and grorious nippon |
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| 14:18.38 | drom | Hachiman: First world countries count as well, in case they being France, Japan, USA, Italy, Spain and few more as I don't want to bother to mention more. |
| 14:19.16 | OluapPlayer | ~throw Cyrannian |
| 14:19.16 | infobot | ACTION winds up and throws Cyrannian over the moon. |
| 14:19.24 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
| 14:19.24 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 14:19.29 | drom | AdmiralPanda: Is that one that turns muscle to bone tissue? |
| 14:19.38 | AdmiralPanda | yeah |
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| 14:20.22 | drom | Hm, I cannot argue against that |
| 14:22.01 | drom | When I first read that "ossification" I expected rotten muscle bathing in pus. |
| 14:22.33 | drom | In that case, that's just necrosis |
| 14:27.53 | drom | I can barely believe that there is actually worse stuff made to make you suffer alot. |
| 14:28.08 | Hachiman | >made |
| 14:30.21 | drom | make* |
| 14:32.27 | drom | Apparently there is a new Overlord game coming out. |
| 14:32.45 | Hachiman | It's been news for a while now |
| 14:32.53 | Hachiman | It's not even Overlord though |
| 14:32.54 | OluapPlayer | An Overlord game with no Minions, not worth checking |
| 14:33.05 | drom | I see. |
| 14:33.22 | Hachiman | An Overlord game with no actualy Sauron expy either |
| 14:33.30 | drom | It does have minions on its cover though |
| 14:34.01 | Hachiman | Yeah but you do not control them |
| 14:35.13 | AdmiralPanda | an evil overlord should not have to actually *do* anything, that's what minions are for |
| 14:35.52 | Wormy_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fibrodysplasia_ossificans_progressiva.jpg |
| 14:36.21 | drom | Seen |
| 14:36.52 | drom | it is also used in a SCP entry |
| 14:36.52 | Wormy_away | Another weird condition I've heard of is where a foetus gets absorbed into its twin and becomes a parasite. |
| 14:37.04 | Hachiman | Aye, I recall those |
| 14:37.13 | Hachiman | A bit off-topic but Maxinimus Thrax, one of the Caesars of the Roman Empire, was apparently a literal giant of a man |
| 14:37.26 | Hachiman | His bed was supposedly 13ft long |
| 14:38.00 | Wormy_away | People can grow up without knowing they have this twin, but eventually take on symptoms of cancer and find out its a parasitic foetus. |
| 14:38.03 | Hachiman | Maximinus even |
| 14:38.59 | drom | Wormy_away: I heard of these stories. One of them being a woman whom doctos thought she had brain tumor, in fact it turns out it's her parasitic twin. |
| 14:39.05 | drom | turns out to be* |
| 14:39.19 | Hachiman | Oh wait sorry, it was the King of Bashan who had a 13ft long bed |
| 14:39.52 | Hachiman | But Maximinus Thrax was still a tall Caesar, given he reportedly stood at 8.6ft |
| 14:39.52 | drom | About 4 meters? |
| 14:40.12 | Wormy_away | I once read a creepy story about a man in the 1900s who had a face on the back of his neck. He said the face's lips used to move as if whispering to him at night. |
| 14:40.48 | Cyrannian | Oh wow that's horrifying |
| 14:41.36 | Hachiman | Reminds me of Quirrell and Voldemort from the first Harry Potter movie |
| 14:42.07 | drom | Hachiman: There is that giant guy probably in his 20-30's but is approx. 2-3 meter tall. |
| 14:43.00 | drom | Then this Danish movie actor who became successful thanks to his gigantism. |
| 14:43.10 | Wormy_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Mordak |
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| 14:43.32 | Wormy_away | "The duplicate face could neither eat nor speak out loud but was seen to "smile and sneer while Mordake was weeping." Mordake reportedly begged doctors to have his "Demon face" removed, claiming that it whispered to him at night, but no doctor would attempt it. He committed suicide when he was 23 years old." |
| 14:43.39 | drom | Wormy_away: It doesn't exist on my end |
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| 14:44.04 | Wormy_away | Add an e to the end |
| 14:44.12 | Hachiman | Mordrake |
| 14:44.20 | drom | dum |
| 14:46.55 | Wormy_away | "The ugly twin, "occupying only a small portion of the posterior part of the skull, yet exhibiting every sign of intelligence, of a malignant sort, however", would be seen to smile and sneer while Mordake was weeping. The eyes would follow the movements of the spectator, and the lips "would gibber without ceasing"" |
| 14:47.14 | Wormy_away | I find this story so macabre |
| 14:48.12 | drom | I wonder how his skull looked like |
| 14:48.23 | Wormy_away | 'he died, leaving a letter requesting that the "demon face" might be destroyed before his burial, "lest it continues its dreadful whisperings in my grave." ' |
| 14:54.45 | Wormy_away | I'd have punched it until it stopped |
| 14:55.23 | Hachiman | Good luck punching the back of your head hur |
| 14:55.35 | Hachiman | That is, without damaging yourself |
| 14:57.21 | Wormy_away | Hm, true |
| 14:58.09 | Wormy_away | In reality is was probably just muscle spasms or something |
| 14:59.04 | drom | According to an article, it is more beliveably a fiction. |
| 14:59.10 | drom | http://hoaxes.org/weblog/comments/edward_mordake |
| 15:01.46 | drom | Also, it is very difficult to survive longer than few months with two faces |
| 15:02.02 | Wormy_away | The other option is a kind of tumour called a teratoma |
| 15:02.20 | Wormy_away | Teratomas can develop organs, even eyes and teeth |
| 15:04.16 | drom | In that case then, that'd be fatal if it grew on your head |
| 15:05.47 | drom | Sorry to be a such joykill, but I actually want to be secure if the claim I want to belive in isn't some cleverly tailored hoax |
| 15:06.35 | Wormy_away | Not necessarily, I've read that some parasitic twins may be in actual fact, teratomas, and its not impossible to grow up with them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_in_fetu |
| 15:07.14 | Wormy_away | I'm not defending the story, as it came from a lay source. But its not an impossible story. |
| 15:35.21 | drom | Well. True that |
| 15:35.38 | drom | You can survive that, but the question is: How for long? |
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| 15:39.54 | Cyrannian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z43ZMBVgKWg - Did anyone see this? Opening cinematic to Halo 5 is so awesome |
| 15:43.17 | drom | Cyrannian: Those high harnesses though |
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| 15:45.29 | drom | Also the grunts' look is god awful |
| 15:46.40 | drom | Cannot tell for Halo 5, but the Halo 4 grunts looked god awful |
| 15:46.43 | drom | that's it |
| 15:48.45 | drom | Apparently you can airdrop dogs and puppies to you in MSGV |
| 15:52.00 | Technobliterator | oh man |
| 15:52.01 | Technobliterator | this game |
| 15:52.06 | Technobliterator | is so good |
| 15:53.37 | drom | MGSV even |
| 15:55.35 | Hachiman | Man that Halo 5 cinematic is so cool |
| 15:56.48 | drom | Techno: Hm, actually you can only airdrop one. It one of the character's campanion that will assist you outthrought the game. |
| 15:58.48 | Hachiman | I am surprised Cyrannus does not have its own equivalent to SPARTANs or other supersoldiers |
| 15:59.14 | drom | "Imperial Agency" |
| 15:59.42 | drom | And oh, they've got their equivalent of Sith-warriors and inquistitors, so that's something. |
| 16:01.13 | Cyrannian | I was planning on expanding on elite New Republic squads of soldiers but that was inspired more by FemShep |
| 16:01.51 | OluapPlayer | They go around their troops all like "We'll bang ok?" |
| 16:02.33 | Cyrannian | lel |
| 16:15.53 | Tek0516 | So I locked my room key and Student ID in my room, then when I got the help desk guy but the door got deadbolted. So I had to wait for campus security to let me in. >.< |
| 16:17.23 | drom | Could've been worse |
| 16:17.48 | Tek0516 | Plus my phone company is saying i owe money immediately, and it's the first day of classes |
| 16:18.51 | Tek0516 | Overall, not my best morning |
| 16:19.46 | drom | An policy here on my dormitory, don't come home later than 10 at night, else the door will lock and deny further attempts to unlock via unique code and ID pad, so you have then spam the embedded telephone button to be let in. Chances that the personnel and inhabitants will be sleeping. So you have to spend your night outside. |
| 16:20.38 | drom | Doesn't apply on fridays and weekends though |
| 16:20.59 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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| 16:25.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hello everyone |
| 16:26.17 | Tek0516 | O.o Right now the once-great Bloc Quebecois is polling so badly that the "maximum" projection is 0 seats. |
| 16:27.03 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 16:27.41 | Tek0516 | http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/poll-tracker/2015/index.html |
| 16:28.19 | Tek0516 | Elections are also really damn close in general really. :P |
| 16:28.27 | drom | I wonder what's the name of an undeclared war? |
| 16:29.17 | DrodoEmpire | Depends |
| 16:29.32 | drom | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeclared_war |
| 16:29.43 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean by "undeclared"? Simply a war of any size that had no formal declaration? |
| 16:29.52 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 16:30.17 | DrodoEmpire | Well sometimes the (supremely arrogant in my opinion) euphemism "police action" is used |
| 16:30.19 | drom | Yeah, mostly refered as "military police actions" |
| 16:30.47 | DrodoEmpire | But also simply "undeclared war" |
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| 16:30.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
| 16:31.04 | Xho | Hi |
| 16:31.38 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 16:32.49 | Cyrannian | https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11953000_487542791408659_6170562519916392330_n.jpg?oh=7dc1e103320b081987615aad98f16a85&oe=5665E62A |
| 16:33.29 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
| 16:33.36 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 16:34.10 | Xho | u |
| 16:34.17 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Loyalty_to_the_Team#Dolgan:_Siblings_Reunited chek |
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| 16:37.35 | Xho | Kilchárunya - so you do have a soft side wuss |
| 16:37.39 | Cyrannian | I think someone put this up yesterday but just in case nobody has seen the update on the status of the Spore servers: http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/83672.page |
| 16:37.57 | OluapPlayer | Dolgan - shuddup befor i break ur jaw u massiv fukin bitch |
| 16:39.02 | OluapPlayer | It's been almost 2 months since Spore went down |
| 16:39.04 | OluapPlayer | Time flies |
| 16:39.50 | Cyrannian | Good that they are still working on it. Navigating through it all offline is a pain |
| 16:41.40 | drom | I do wonder who did they put in charge of this migration project |
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| 16:53.17 | Wormy_away | I'm not impressed with the cinematic. Too much suspension of disbelief required. |
| 16:53.43 | drom | The Halo 5 cinematic? |
| 16:53.47 | Wormy_away | yeah |
| 16:54.07 | drom | I find it rather too similar to the CoD trailers |
| 16:54.15 | drom | I mean, action every-fuckin-where |
| 16:54.41 | Wormy_away | A few Space Marines would shoot them acrobats down |
| 16:55.09 | drom | That's why I normally don't speak about it |
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| 16:55.59 | Wormy_away | I prefer the Space Marine trailers |
| 16:56.02 | drom | The effects, animation and every work put in it, but the message and concept in general, is however impressive. |
| 16:56.07 | Wormy_away | Oh yes |
| 16:56.46 | drom | I'd prefer if they didn't follow the idea of how CoD trailers are like, then I'd praise it |
| 16:56.59 | Hachiman | Yes because SPARTANs being inhumanly athletic and acrobatic is the most disbelievable element of the Halo universe |
| 16:57.32 | drom | un-friggin-bliveable |
| 16:57.32 | Hachiman | SPARTANs being able to perform inhuman feats of physical performance has been a staple of the Halo franchise since it began |
| 16:58.16 | drom | The human soldiers have always been useless cannon fodder in the Halo series |
| 16:58.32 | Hachiman | It is like you forgot about Sgt. Avery Johnson and the ODSTs |
| 16:58.34 | drom | The only one I thought was more original were the ODSTs |
| 16:59.37 | drom | Remember that ODSTs have also served as cannon fodder, anything that isn't an character or an object of interest is always an cannon fodder in my experience. |
| 16:59.56 | drom | Sgt. Johnson wasn't an cannon fodder because he played an important role in the story. |
| 16:59.57 | Wormy_away | My main problem was when the SPARTANs jumped from that great height onto their feet |
| 17:00.12 | Xho | And then died |
| 17:00.19 | drom | In the last chapter, yes |
| 17:00.24 | Wormy_away | Unless they have starship grade intertial dampners, its not happening |
| 17:00.29 | Hachiman | Wormy_away: Yes, that is a mechanic in the gameplay |
| 17:00.45 | drom | There was however an glitch that would make him alive again in the last stage of the chapter |
| 17:01.25 | drom | That didn't however make him immune against Flood, cue the quote "Was I supposed to be immune to this?". |
| 17:01.36 | Hachiman | They have energy shields and there is a gelatinous kinetic absorption material within their armour which is supposed to suppress most of the kinetic damage SPARTANs sustain |
| 17:01.46 | drom | Wasn't* |
| 17:02.45 | Wormy_away | If they actually have miniature warp drives, it might be more possible |
| 17:03.36 | Hachiman | I like how you try to call bullshit on the SPARTANs yet go on to support the Space Marines hur |
| 17:03.45 | Wormy_away | lol |
| 17:04.13 | Wormy_away | No, I just imagine a few Space Marines standing there and laughing, then proceed to fire chaingun bolters after them |
| 17:04.15 | drom | Funny that the Sangheili are onpar with SPARTANs in many cases expect their cannon fodder role in the campaign and alike |
| 17:04.16 | Technobliterator | SPARTANs, and Halo's lore in general, are not realistic, no |
| 17:04.39 | Technobliterator | Halo lore claims that SPARTAN assault rifles have Barret .50 cal bullets in them |
| 17:04.41 | Technobliterator | .__. |
| 17:05.33 | drom | Remember that not all Spartans did survive |
| 17:05.47 | drom | To name ALL of the SPARTANs in Halo:Reach |
| 17:06.05 | drom | Including you as the anonymous and mute SPARTAN |
| 17:06.16 | Hachiman | You are not anonymous |
| 17:06.24 | Hachiman | Your name is Noble 6 |
| 17:06.37 | drom | Well yes. But other than that, no |
| 17:06.44 | Hachiman | Arguably nearly all SPARTANs are anonymous because they do not use their real names |
| 17:06.48 | Wormy_away | Actually, I watched a battlescene from a movie based on if North Korea attacks South Korea, and there is a dogfight between fighter pilots, but I couldn't take it seriously because the NK kept targetting carparks rather than important targets |
| 17:07.13 | drom | hur |
| 17:07.21 | Wormy_away | Soar into the Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9wpeg9q5C4 |
| 17:07.47 | Hachiman | While the Adeptus Astartes are probably more potent and inhuman supersoldiers than the SPARTANs, the SPARTANs in turn are probably overall more versatile |
| 17:08.20 | Wormy_away | 2:25 hur |
| 17:09.34 | Wormy_away | pretty sure dogfights with modern jet fighters wouldn't last long |
| 17:09.54 | drom | Most of the Spartans have SPARTAN designations, but also use their first names. Noble 6 is the only one who doesn't have a first name. |
| 17:10.00 | drom | iirc |
| 17:10.18 | Hachiman | Yes they do |
| 17:10.20 | Hachiman | Noble |
| 17:10.27 | Cyrannian | Spartan IVs use their original names |
| 17:11.46 | Hachiman | Oh wait no |
| 17:12.01 | Hachiman | Sorry I got my stuff mixed up |
| 17:12.01 | Hachiman | Yeah Noble 6 does not have a forename |
| 17:13.00 | Cyrannian | But yeah jumping from that height with thrusters to slow descent is tame compared to the Master Chief falling from low orbit in Halo 3 |
| 17:13.18 | drom | The Spartan you play as from CE to 3 and few more installtions is the only playable character that has a forename iirc |
| 17:13.19 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 17:13.36 | Hachiman | Thel'Vadam |
| 17:14.14 | drom | John-117 to be exact |
| 17:16.00 | drom | Not even the ODST guy you play as in Halo 3: ODST has a forename, just the nick "Rookie". |
| 17:16.25 | Cyrannian | To be fair the Rookie is the only protagonist that never speaks |
| 17:16.41 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 17:16.44 | drom | I thought Noble 6 never spoke? |
| 17:17.02 | drom | Quick, give something to refresh my memory |
| 17:17.27 | Hachiman | Actually I think Noble 6 might also be mute |
| 17:18.00 | Cyrannian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8AQmEgPno - He speaks at 2:10 |
| 17:18.09 | Cyrannian | You can change Noble 6's gender too |
| 17:18.51 | drom | Yeah |
| 17:19.09 | Wormy_away | Dats no good. Soldiers need to communicate vital information on the battlefield! |
| 17:19.35 | drom | I think Noble 6 also have voice clips played everytime he does something |
| 17:19.58 | drom | I mean, he does have a voice clip set you can use in Halo: Reach's multiplayer |
| 17:20.39 | drom | Yep. He's voiced |
| 17:25.17 | drom | The only concidence Rookie make sounds is his grunting when hurt, panting when running and when he whistle for Virgil to unveil itself (only if you've collected all the 30 Audio logs) |
| 17:26.01 | drom | Vergil not Virgil |
| 17:26.35 | Cyrannian | Poor Rookie was killed in a recent novel |
| 17:27.32 | drom | Oh? |
| 17:27.51 | drom | Anyway, speaking of ODST's Audio logs I find the story both funny and very touching |
| 17:28.54 | Cyrannian | Is that Sadie's Story? |
| 17:29.26 | drom | Yep |
| 17:30.40 | Cyrannian | Ah yes, that was a great story |
| 17:31.32 | drom | I loved every detail of the perspective they put into it |
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| 17:33.08 | drom | In fact it hit me in my heart that they had to abandon some of their friends behind (they insisted to stay behind). In fact I felt very bad when I walked into the room where you retrieve the last audio log |
| 17:33.13 | dino82_ | hello all |
| 17:33.24 | drom | Hey! |
| 17:33.59 | drom | In fact I hated every second of Kinsler hur |
| 17:36.29 | Cyrannian | Hey dino! |
| 17:37.29 | dino82_ | hello :d |
| 17:41.24 | Cyrannian | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/38/VasubandSiege01.png/revision/latest?cb=20150902174055 - For the last NCW story |
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| 17:45.13 | OluapPlayer | Carandial - just so u all know im the biggest jerk here |
| 17:59.23 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/MbnyhSt |
| 18:03.39 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/wYN5h2b |
| 18:05.24 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/QFIhx |
| 18:09.31 | TekDroid | Wormy_away: ...that sounds almost foreshadowing of fascism. O.o |
| 18:10.11 | OluapPlayer | Xho Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4bX97ZU3R4 |
| 18:10.48 | Wormy_away | indeed |
| 18:10.57 | Xho | Dear me |
| 18:12.57 | Wormy_away | They could be tourists, asleep, disabled, deaf/blind, or having different political views, religious, or it might not have even been nationbal anthem |
| 18:16.08 | Imperios | They could have been fucking tourists hur |
| 18:17.17 | Wormy_away | I might stand for fear of being shot, but wouldn't want to. |
| 18:18.20 | Wormy_away | Actually, this sort of patriotism is everywhere. Say something in the wrong place about a football team here and expect to get beaten up |
| 18:19.05 | TekDroid | It amazes me that in America you can be sexist, racist, ultranationalist... and still get tens of millions of votes |
| 18:19.09 | TekDroid | brb |
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| 18:22.15 | Imperios | Tek0516: This is MUHRIC for you |
| 18:22.17 | Imperios | *MUHRICA |
| 18:22.21 | Imperios | This actually amazes me |
| 18:22.42 | Wormy_away | epic win http://imgur.com/gallery/fXPY9xB |
| 18:22.49 | Imperios | Us and Americans are more alike than anyone else |
| 18:23.35 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Hachi and Baptarion |
| 18:23.39 | Imperios | Crazy intolerant right-wing bastards that invade countries for allegedly lofty goals |
| 18:24.01 | Imperios | Americans are basically more competent Russians |
| 18:24.20 | Hachiman | No, Russians are just less competent Americans |
| 18:24.27 | Imperios | Or that |
| 18:25.07 | Wormy_away | singed lungs... epic fail http://imgur.com/gallery/Vmq3RQ1 |
| 18:25.33 | Imperios | Americans without freeduhms to give |
| 18:25.52 | Imperios | Or Americans who can't drive |
| 18:26.37 | Imperios | Actually the way Russians drive is a big argument in favour of the Ukrainian belief that Russians are in fact culturally and historically Asian |
| 18:27.21 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/oSiUa |
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| 18:28.41 | Imperios | Holy shit that's some nice architecutre |
| 18:31.36 | Imperios | Indians have cool architecture TBH |
| 18:32.01 | Imperios | Then again so do Europeans |
| 18:32.03 | Imperios | And Muslims |
| 18:32.13 | Imperios | Africans have cool architecture too |
| 18:32.40 | TekDroid | For all its "freedom" America isn't even one of the highest ranking on sections like freedoms and democracy |
| 18:35.41 | Technobliterator | Aztec architecture is the best |
| 18:36.52 | Imperios | TekDroid: It's not how much freedom *they* have, it's how much freedom *others* will have once America frees the shit out of them |
| 18:37.01 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Them too |
| 18:38.10 | Imperios | I personally am split between Islamic, French Gothic and Stalinist |
| 18:38.35 | Imperios | Oh and Catherinian Baroque because that's my city's main architectural style |
| 18:39.33 | Imperios | Actually screw Gothic, it's either Islamic, Baroque or Soviet |
| 18:40.31 | Imperios | Maybe not Islamic because while pretty it's mostly just pretty-looking, fancifully ornamented BOXES |
| 18:41.24 | Imperios | http://www.svali.ru/pic/pictures/90/r_p_d6ff1a6f622204e87f1abf78ca2f47bb.jpg OUR ENEMIES PRAY IN STONE BOXES |
| 18:41.45 | Wormy_away | I quite like Islamic architecture, especially the tiling patterns. I like that weird architecture in Russian cities with weird spirally tops |
| 18:42.32 | Wormy_away | Tibetan architecture's cool |
| 18:42.48 | Hachiman | >screw Gothic |
| 18:42.54 | Hachiman | I always knew Russians were stupid |
| 18:43.13 | Wormy_away | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/St_Basils_Cathedral-500px.jpg |
| 18:43.22 | Imperios | I do not like Central European Gothic |
| 18:43.29 | Imperios | French Gothic is fancy |
| 18:43.46 | Imperios | Traditional Russian architecture is too colourful for my liking |
| 18:44.03 | Imperios | It looks like someone baked gingerbread and shaped it into a building |
| 18:44.42 | Imperios | There is one traditional Russian building in Saint-Petersburg and I seriously hate it |
| 18:44.48 | Imperios | http://www.spbtravel.ru/pic/photo/attbig_48_1.jpg It looks terrible |
| 18:47.12 | Imperios | Not because it is ugly - it is not - but because it just does not fit into Saint-Petersburg's overall dark and gloomy atmosphere |
| 18:47.17 | Imperios | It's like the Tau |
| 18:47.20 | Wormy_away | It does look like Gingerbread house made in Disney Land, but I find it distinctive and magical |
| 18:47.22 | Imperios | Not grimdark enough |
| 18:48.10 | Imperios | http://kazansky-spb.ru/image/gallery/1.jpg That church I like though |
| 18:49.05 | Wormy_away | I like this http://beehivestudio.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f9cbc5e8834012875a889b6970c-500wi |
| 18:49.18 | Wormy_away | Blending modernist architecture with nature |
| 18:49.25 | Wormy_away | I could live in a house like that |
| 18:49.53 | Imperios | Aye |
| 18:50.05 | Technobliterator | I don't like gothic styles |
| 18:50.19 | Hachiman | Then you need to re-evaluate your tastes |
| 18:51.04 | Technobliterator | Nope, gothic styles are dull |
| 18:51.19 | Technobliterator | when you've been in several gothic buildings and seen it all before |
| 18:51.25 | Technobliterator | you kind of get bored of them |
| 18:51.31 | Imperios | French people have good gothic |
| 18:51.41 | Imperios | Polish and German Gothic is frankly very dull |
| 18:52.10 | Hachiman | I bet you do not enjoy dark fantasy games |
| 18:52.12 | Imperios | http://cs5954.vkontakte.ru/u17968690/96045161/z_b7b28159.jpg I mean it's just bricks |
| 18:52.13 | Imperios | BRICKS |
| 18:53.14 | Imperios | Out of more modern architectural styles I personally like what was done in the early Soviet Union |
| 18:53.56 | Wormy_away | I live where the Industrial Revolution began so I'm surrounded by mills like this and am impressed by them http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/63/77/637762_25ee0ffe.jpg |
| 18:54.07 | Wormy_away | That building there is the first high rise factory |
| 18:54.17 | Imperios | Huh |
| 18:54.27 | Imperios | Under Lenin there was a big architectural boom and a lot of innovation, while Stalin had more fancy and classical-looking buildings built in his era, so I like both of these periods |
| 18:54.34 | Wormy_away | Its was also the first fire proof factory |
| 18:54.43 | TekDroid | So apparently I'm working with assembly languages in this course |
| 18:54.55 | Imperios | Even though I hate Stalin in general, he at least had a good taste in art |
| 18:55.28 | Hachiman | I like how Stalin fancied classical architecture yet did not support religion hur |
| 18:56.44 | Wormy_away | http://www.buxtonfestival.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Cromford-Mills-Pic-2014.jpg http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/79/58/2795896_6bb4d227.jpg |
| 18:56.45 | Imperios | Actually Stalin was more keen on religion than Lenin |
| 18:57.07 | Wormy_away | They aren't gothic but I've always found Victorian mills to be grim places |
| 18:57.12 | Imperios | He actually allowed the priesthood to go legal again during WW2 so that they could boost morale for the people |
| 18:57.25 | Imperios | He wanted to become a priest himself after all |
| 18:57.52 | Hachiman | But then why the atheist affiliation |
| 18:57.58 | Wormy_away | Places where children got their limbs trapped and cotton blew up in flames and where whole families had to work but seperated from each other during work hours |
| 19:00.22 | Wormy_away | In Spring and Summer where I live looks fairy tale, but in winter the leafless trees and gaunt old derelict mills look like very bleak places. You might like it |
| 19:00.55 | Imperios | Nothing can outbleak Saint-Petersburg at late autumn during rainfall |
| 19:02.35 | Wormy_away | http://consettmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Paper-Mill-Shotley-Grove.jpg |
| 19:03.38 | Wormy_away | Ironically named "Bleak Slow" http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BB5JRB/aircraft-wreckage-of-a-superfortress-rb-29a-91st-reconnaissance-wing-BB5JRB.jpg |
| 19:03.41 | Wormy_away | *Low |
| 19:04.57 | Imperios | Wormy_away Hachiman: http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww143/sergL_photos/SPb_PITER_Vesna_Leto_2011-12/18_Rain_Nevsky_Night.jpg FACE THE GRIMDARK |
| 19:05.21 | Imperios | ...Oh wait you're Brits that's how your cities look like anyway |
| 19:05.39 | Hachiman | Looks normal to me |
| 19:05.42 | Wormy_away | Yeah, some places can get far uglier than that |
| 19:07.53 | Imperios | It's not ugly, just grim |
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| 19:09.12 | Wormy_ | damn internet |
| 19:09.12 | Wormy_ | test |
| 19:09.25 | Imperios | Oh and then there's our metro system |
| 19:09.38 | Wormy_ | Imperios: https://www.hpacde.org.uk/picturethepast/jpgh_nottingham/NTGM012207.jpg http://www.nottinghampost.com/images/localworld/ugc-images/276368/Article/images/23220428/7121959-large.jpg |
| 19:09.39 | Wormy_ | http://img01.beerintheevening.com/49/49d3379fdab7725e1dd194df500a4ca8.jpg |
| 19:10.28 | Wormy_ | I've always found council estates depressing hur |
| 19:10.31 | Imperios | That's how some buildings look in the south of Saint-Petersburg look like |
| 19:10.50 | Imperios | Unpainted and ruined red brick |
| 19:12.09 | Wormy_ | This is what Thatcher did http://www.mansfield.gov.uk/media/image/k/5/Street_in_Pleasley_Hill1.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rITr8cBk3nQ/T1_HgUKyuOI/AAAAAAAAAjo/GnQI1hIZEE4/s1600/DSCF0028.JPG |
| 19:12.17 | Imperios | The whole place actually looks kinda post-apocalyptic |
| 19:12.31 | Wormy_ | aye |
| 19:12.49 | Wormy_ | Pleasley Vale its called. I think it was a mining village |
| 19:13.04 | Wormy_ | Well, people still live there but its dead |
| 19:14.13 | Wormy_ | In a weird way, I like the bleakness though |
| 19:14.55 | Wormy_ | Oooh I just found this http://www.wm-saunders.co.uk/images/case-study/Shirebrook-2.jpg |
| 19:15.49 | Imperios | We have a lot of towns like this |
| 19:16.49 | Wormy_ | Most of the area I live is pretty though, this spa town is called "Little Switzerland" http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/matlock-bath-river-derwent-view-flowing-derbyshire-trees-flowers-34723707.jpg |
| 19:17.14 | Wormy_ | they retained tourism trade though |
| 19:18.43 | Hachiman | http://assets.northwooduk.com/images/offices/hastings_office/original/Hastings.jpg?1372422475 This is the kind of place I live in |
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| 19:19.02 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 19:19.10 | Hachiman | Sussex is not a pretty place hur |
| 19:20.30 | Wormy_ | Hachi: The geologist in me likes that cliff though |
| 19:20.50 | Hachiman | Oh yeah the cliff is cool |
| 19:21.32 | Hachiman | Sussex is full of seaside towns |
| 19:22.41 | Hachiman | It also has history considering the Battle of 1066 took place in West Sussex, which is where I live |
| 19:23.28 | Wormy_ | What do the people of Sussex think of the people of Essex? |
| 19:24.02 | Wormy_ | Eh I suppose they are a bit far part |
| 19:24.04 | Hachiman | Full of whores, sluts, assholes, hipsters, and general people who think they have class but actually do not |
| 19:24.14 | Wormy_ | Same here lol |
| 19:24.22 | Wormy_ | Essex girls |
| 19:24.26 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 19:25.19 | Hachiman | I would go as far as to say Essex is the home of English ganguro, whatever it's called |
| 19:25.52 | Imperios | Ganguro as in valley girls |
| 19:26.19 | Wormy_ | I'm a bus ride away from places like this http://cavedale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Winnatspass-400x200.jpg http://www.accessiblederbyshire.org/images/srv/block-story_viewer-right/Storyviewer/Accessible_Derbyshire_Slide05.jpg http://www.stanleyfearns.co.uk/peak3.jpg |
| 19:26.23 | Wormy_ | I guess I should stop |
| 19:26.27 | Hachiman | Ganguro as in horrendously bright clothes and make-up alongside dumb bitches, often blonde |
| 19:26.52 | Hachiman | And horrible spray tan |
| 19:27.17 | Wormy_ | googles "Ganguro" and agrees full heartedly |
| 19:27.38 | Wormy_ | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/02/article-1393407-0C5E2C6800000578-207_468x730.jpg |
| 19:28.28 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.39 | Hachiman | I have never seen anything so orange other than fruit outside of Essex |
| 19:28.42 | Wormy_ | Found that searching Essex girl btw |
| 19:29.11 | Wormy_ | brb dinner |
| 19:29.44 | Hachiman | I would say Sussex is comparatively better but then it is like the ass end of the UK |
| 19:33.18 | Hachiman | What is somewhat amusing is that the Battle of Hastings, where William the Conqueror and his Norman army fought the Anglo-Saxons under Harold Godwinson, actually did not take place within Hastings and tall and was fought closer to a town which is now known as Battle |
| 19:33.34 | Hachiman | *within Hastings at all |
| 19:35.12 | DrodoEmpire | The battle of Battle? |
| 19:36.27 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 19:38.01 | Hachiman | Although I recall that William and the Normans arrived and landed at Hastings from overseas in order to face the Anglo-Saxons at what is now Battle |
| 19:41.23 | Hachiman | Right; Norman's Bay is where William the Conqueror and his forces landed which is located on the coastal border between Hastings and Eastbourne, with the actual battle being located northwards at Senlac Hill, which is more than seven kilometres away from Hastings |
| 19:41.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: Her face is as orange as her hair |
| 19:41.37 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 19:41.51 | Hachiman | I, and a lot of other Britons, have a low opinion of Essex hur |
| 19:42.45 | Imperios | I |
| 19:42.50 | Imperios | There was one girl like her in Russia |
| 19:42.55 | Imperios | http://russia-osoboe-mnenie.ru/media/k2/items/cache/fdcdab7b883db46c6461d37dc1d99b74_XL.jpg Xenia Sobchak |
| 19:43.44 | Hachiman | Looks like she would fit right in |
| 19:44.29 | Imperios | She was basically Russia's Paris Hilton |
| 19:44.34 | Imperios | Guess what happened then? |
| 19:45.06 | Imperios | She donned glasses and become one of Putin's main detractors on Rain TV http://img11.nnm.me/d/b/7/2/d/efbf71a1804eb0df6ae373423d4.jpg |
| 19:45.21 | Imperios | "Look at me, I fight against the government, I am edgy" |
| 19:45.40 | Hachiman | ech |
| 19:45.47 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/1908023_748376665309121_1242275097073357569_n.png?oh=8cb6f80028422cb275bd91db063e8ab2&oe=5661D52A Good thinking Jade |
| 19:46.47 | Imperios | That is why we do not overthrow Putin |
| 19:47.55 | Hachiman | Sussex is largely grotesque and full of chavs and trashy people but at least it does not attempt to make itself look glamorous and fail like Essex |
| 19:48.06 | Hachiman | Plus it is historically significant |
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| 20:16.50 | drom__ | "drom_ is already in use" |
| 20:24.45 | Wormy_ | drom__ Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/FXZGH |
| 20:27.30 | Wormy_ | First I wondered if he had special needs and then realised the story probably wasn't true |
| 20:29.37 | Hachiman | Fucking hell |
| 20:33.39 | Wormy_ | "I am convinced Kevin and his family were actually crashed aliens, trying to muddle their way through our planet until they could be rescued." |
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| 20:39.03 | NoblaSourEmpire | Hey everyone |
| 20:41.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hello. |
| 20:42.28 | NoblaSourEmpire | hey |
| 20:43.00 | NoblaSourEmpire | drodo did you hear? |
| 20:44.22 | NoblaSourEmpire | a remaining Maxis Office made a post on augest 26th! they said that spore isnt dead and the servers will be online soon |
| 20:44.57 | drom__ | Wormy_: "Kevin's family went on vacation for Christmas and forgot him. Their home was broken into and the neighbor had to come save him." |
| 20:45.13 | drom__ | Probably the best reference so far |
| 20:48.37 | Wormy_fiction | lol |
| 20:48.59 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, yes |
| 20:49.09 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry Nobla, I did. I'm writing is all |
| 20:49.13 | DrodoEmpire | And yes we've heard |
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| 20:56.01 | Xho | OluapPlayer: So I was looking through Indian Raga and I found a raga called Ramamanohari |
| 20:56.11 | Xho | The fact it sounds like Vargash's Chaospheric name kinda spooked me |
| 20:56.16 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 20:56.28 | OluapPlayer | Vargash - indian disguise guise |
| 21:01.42 | NoblaSourEmpire | its great isnt it? |
| 21:02.09 | Technobliterator | It's more obvious than great |
| 21:02.25 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: How's TPP? |
| 21:12.17 | Technobliterator | It's seriously amazing :o |
| 21:12.21 | Technobliterator | I really like it |
| 21:12.48 | OluapPlayer | Did you get to any of the buddies yet? |
| 21:16.05 | OluapPlayer | blah nevermind gotta go |
| 21:17.08 | drom__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.53 | drom__ | I do really wonder why we haven't yet migrated to an other Wiki farm |
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| 21:32.32 | drom__ | Anyway, I've fixed that clipping problem for you, Cyrabot |
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| 21:33.51 | drom__ | Charles_Murray: Why aren't you in #katar fss |
| 21:34.03 | Charles_Murray | Oversight |
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| 21:38.34 | TekDroid | Well I survived my first day of classes. :P |
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| 21:59.29 | drom__ | CyraBot: So I re-read the Sadie's story |
| 21:59.32 | drom__ | muh feelings |
| 22:01.23 | CyraBot | I like the kebab man |
| 22:02.18 | drom__ | Aye, he was seemingly very calm and accepted every second of his inevitable fate |
| 22:03.28 | drom__ | Also, you can make your feelings suffer more when the go into the, like I said before, the room with the last audio log. |
| 22:03.34 | drom__ | Ever been there? |
| 22:05.15 | CyraBot | Hm I think I only got to the part where she leaves the kebab man |
| 22:05.43 | drom__ | I see. |
| 22:06.32 | drom__ | Anyway, that room is only accessable when you've collected the first 29 logs. Once done that, you follow the NMPD officer. |
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| 22:08.03 | CyraBot | I recently downloaded odst for the Master Chief collection so I'll check it out when I get a chance |
| 22:09.01 | Wormy_fiction | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Society#Philosophy:_What_.27Order.27_means |
| 22:09.06 | drom__ | CyraBot: The NMPD officer you meet in the level where you later meet Daren and retrieve the SuperIndependent core. |
| 22:09.07 | Wormy_fiction | Now Order has a meaning |
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| 22:11.13 | drom__ | Superintendent* |
| 22:11.20 | NoblaSourEmpire | Guys |
| 22:11.29 | NoblaSourEmpire | anything new to the universe? |
| 22:11.35 | Xho | ARBEIT MACHT FREI, or in the Grimbolsaurian language, CLICKCLICK CLICK CLICK |
| 22:11.40 | drom__ | CyraBot: This guy, if you are okay with little spoilers http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Unnamed_NMPD_Officer |
| 22:12.12 | CyraBot | Ah yes I remember him |
| 22:12.22 | CyraBot | Nice work Wormy |
| 22:15.06 | Wormy_fiction | thanks |
| 22:16.29 | Wormy_fiction | I guess thats right Spu |
| 22:18.46 | drom__ | Wormy_fiction: Interestin! |
| 22:18.58 | drom__ | NoblaSourEmpire: Not what I know off so far |
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| 22:24.16 | NoblaSour | We need some new fics up in here |
| 22:26.03 | Hachiman | We have a fair few fictions going already |
| 22:26.12 | DrodoEmpire | We can always use more but yeah |
| 22:26.21 | DrodoEmpire | The more the merrier. |
| 22:26.37 | DrodoEmpire | Or perhaps the more convoluted and odd. XD |
| 22:27.43 | drom__ | We'd be all over a fresh and 'unique' fiction |
| 22:28.36 | NoblaSour | hasnt every idea already been done to death? XD |
| 22:29.06 | DrodoEmpire | Well not quite |
| 22:29.42 | drom__ | Not all |
| 22:30.01 | CyraBot | Night guys |
| 22:30.03 | drom__ | There are however some ideas that we don't have the creativity to think off |
| 22:30.45 | NoblaSour | drodo |
| 22:30.55 | NoblaSour | whats the superweapon? |
| 22:31.10 | drom__ | There are hundreds of different superweapons |
| 22:31.15 | Wormy_fiction | drom: Thats when you throw things into the melting pot, like what i did for order |
| 22:32.05 | drom__ | Yeah, experimenting is fun |
| 22:32.12 | Hachiman | One could say each civilisation has its own set of WMDs |
| 22:33.09 | NoblaSour | Like the TX-5000 |
| 22:33.25 | Hachiman | Eh not quite |
| 22:33.49 | Wormy_fiction | I have a good few http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology/Military_technology#Technologies_of_war |
| 22:33.56 | Hachiman | Antimatter weaponry, weaponised von Neumann probes (self-reproducing nanomachines), etc |
| 22:34.16 | Xho | http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/worlds-oldest-wooden-carving-older-previously-thought |
| 22:34.36 | NoblaSour | how about nukes? |
| 22:34.53 | drom | Wormy_fiction: Though I'm rather cautious about the ingredients I throw into the pot, I want something that turns science fiction hardness up to eleven. |
| 22:35.04 | Hachiman | Nukes are largely outdated for hi-tech societies |
| 22:36.14 | NoblaSour | how about a bomb that makes a temporary black hole |
| 22:36.15 | drom | I just want stuff those science fiction hardness is harder than adamantite. |
| 22:36.22 | drom | Those exist |
| 22:37.00 | Hachiman | Antimatter weaponry is far superior to hydrogen and nuclear fission, plus fission and hydrogen are more useful for powering spacecraft that travel at sublight speed so it is rather pointless to continue producing nukes when the resources can be put to more useful aspects of society |
| 22:37.01 | NoblaSour | crap |
| 22:37.32 | NoblaSour | how about a bomb that creates a miniture sun to burn threw planets ships and cities |
| 22:37.38 | Wormy_fiction | drom: This might help. http://www.kheper.net/topics/scifi/grading.html |
| 22:37.48 | Hachiman | Non, miniature suns cannot be "created" |
| 22:38.02 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 22:38.41 | Wormy_fiction | drom: My fiction could never be above Plausibly hard in the SporeWikiverse (unless I created a seperate universe), because of the use of hyperspace and FTL without time travel except when I want it, etc. |
| 22:39.15 | Xho | Well a miniature sun/black hole would be the same thing on a conventional scale in terms of effect |
| 22:39.23 | Xho | Mass and whatnot tearing the planet apart |
| 22:39.40 | Xho | Well more specifically gravitational pull |
| 22:39.44 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 22:39.52 | Xho | See I know physics |
| 22:40.00 | Xho | Only when it's concerned with mass destruction though |
| 22:40.15 | Xho | Anyway must be ded |
| 22:40.28 | Hachiman | It'd be far more plausible for WMDs to be created which invert gravity to such a point that black holes are formed |
| 22:40.54 | NoblaSour | how about a weapon that fires out several small steel balls that circle around a planet or group of ships and creates a magnetic shield around the planet |
| 22:41.10 | Hachiman | Sounds pointless |
| 22:41.17 | NoblaSour | then a tube connects to the field and shoots our lasers into teh circle |
| 22:41.40 | NoblaSour | they cant escape and would be "drowned" in the lasers |
| 22:41.42 | Hachiman | Why do that when you can organise a fleet of ships to orbitally bombard a planet with their payload anyway |
| 22:42.42 | NoblaSour | how about a tractor beam like thing that drags suns and planets and smashes then into each other |
| 22:43.05 | Hachiman | Waste of resources although a similar effect can be done I believe |
| 22:43.17 | Hachiman | Not dragging but catapulting |
| 22:45.21 | NoblaSour | ok then how about a Meteor that lands on a planet or ships with a disease in it |
| 22:45.33 | NoblaSour | the disease eats away at the inhabitants bodies and brains |
| 22:46.07 | NoblaSour | Causing them to spontaniously combust |
| 22:46.11 | Hachiman | I already suggested von Neumann probes |
| 22:46.16 | Hachiman | Those can do that very easily |
| 22:46.21 | Hachiman | And are much more difficult to contain |
| 22:46.31 | NoblaSour | and splitting the atoms in their bodies causing atom explosion |
| 22:46.42 | NoblaSour | bam |
| 22:47.22 | Hachiman | I think you need to start overcomplicating how WMDs work because the charm of any weapon is simplicity and efficiency |
| 22:47.30 | Hachiman | stop overcomplicating even |
| 22:47.34 | Wormy_fiction | Primitive Atomic Age technology by SporeWikiverse standards :P |
| 22:47.46 | drom | ^ |
| 22:47.47 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 22:47.53 | NoblaSour | lets think whatelse i can do |
| 22:48.10 | NoblaSour | um |
| 22:48.15 | Hachiman | Like, realistically the only groups that would be creating and using technology like that are terrorists |
| 22:48.21 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 22:48.28 | NoblaSour | its time to make |
| 22:48.32 | drom | Hachiman Wormy_fiction: How about an angry Xhodocto in a cup hur |
| 22:48.33 | NoblaSour | The Terrorist Empire! |
| 22:48.35 | Hachiman | And if anything they use those weapons for terror tactics |
| 22:48.51 | NoblaSour | XD |
| 22:48.52 | NoblaSour | no |
| 22:48.59 | NoblaSour | ok lets see whatelse i can do |
| 22:49.35 | Wormy_fiction | My main inspiration for superweapons is go out there, look for exotic and destructive physics |
| 22:50.15 | Wormy_fiction | Thing is I suggest doing your research into the SporeWikiverse first, to get a feel what fiction and technology is like in it |
| 22:50.33 | Wormy_fiction | I'll get some links |
| 22:50.40 | NoblaSour | a super powerfull planet buster which could be shot into the galactic core of a galaxy which uses the galactic core as a source of power to convert all atoms whithin the galaxy to radioactive vapor |
| 22:50.52 | NoblaSour | *sighs* |
| 22:50.58 | Wormy_fiction | Problem with that is the speed of light |
| 22:51.11 | NoblaSour | Exactly |
| 22:51.16 | Hachiman | Plus the galactic core is a supermassive black hole |
| 22:51.27 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 22:51.42 | NoblaSour | actually its more of a worm hole |
| 22:51.52 | Hachiman | No, I am fairly certain it is a black hole |
| 22:51.53 | NoblaSour | since if you go in it brings you somewhere else |
| 22:52.07 | NoblaSour | that sounds like more of a worm hole then a black hole |
| 22:52.19 | Hachiman | Nothing gets out beyond the event horizon and once you are past that point your atoms are ripped apart and torn to shreds |
| 22:52.53 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 22:52.54 | Wormy_fiction | Well, supermassive black holes may allow you to enter. But no-one really knows whats inside one. |
| 22:53.10 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 22:53.11 | Hachiman | Your remains go somewhere but not somewhere within the universe that holds the black hole you get drawn into |
| 22:53.17 | drom | Wormy_fiction: I belive I should only try to reach the Pausibly Hard grade |
| 22:53.21 | Hachiman | Thus making it different from a wormhole |
| 22:53.32 | Wormy_fiction | drom: Yeah, I'm happiest with it |
| 22:54.42 | drom | My fiction usually start off as Soft, but I'll always come back and refine it down to Hard like few hundred proof beverage |
| 22:55.07 | NoblaSour | then what about a Generator that replicates the power of the galactic core and rips up every atom in the galaxy |
| 22:55.14 | Wormy_fiction | NoblaSour: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AWormulon/Technology_tree http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:192744 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AGhel%C3%A6/Guide_To_Stuff http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Fiction_Universe |
| 22:55.45 | NoblaSour | not only riping people to shreads but also causing small atomic explosions randomly |
| 22:55.52 | NoblaSour | the end |
| 22:56.00 | NoblaSour | sufficent? |
| 22:56.06 | Hachiman | Not plausible |
| 22:56.22 | NoblaSour | ok why |
| 22:56.44 | Wormy_fiction | Its really obscure, what is it generating, how does it work, why does it violate the speed of light/gravity? |
| 22:57.01 | Hachiman | Because physics and quantum mechanics are things that exist which prevent that idea from being anywhere near realistic or efficient |
| 22:57.07 | drom | Because it requires more energy than it releases. |
| 22:57.51 | NoblaSour | ok screw it i am going to go read the rest of the super weapons and see if i can find something |
| 22:58.06 | Wormy_fiction | If you want to think of good sci-fi weapons, think not about violating physical law, but operating within physical law. |
| 22:58.40 | Wormy_fiction | at least at first |
| 22:59.10 | drom | Anyway, Wormy. Some of the examples include the fictional Nitrose-based biochemistry and the railguns that can launch 1-10kg slugs at the speed of light. |
| 22:59.44 | drom | I bring up the idea on a soft level. Then I escalate it to an higher level by discussing it with you and Ghel. |
| 22:59.49 | NoblaSour | drom in real life we already have railguns which means these super advanced spore societies would have something WAY better then rail guns |
| 22:59.52 | drom | In fact I'm very fond of it |
| 23:00.05 | NoblaSour | i am not the super weapon expert but thats just my suggestion |
| 23:00.37 | Wormy_fiction | But imagine railguns operated by species with capabilities far beyond ours. |
| 23:00.43 | drom | I know and I'm aware of these railguns and coilguns |
| 23:01.17 | Technobliterator | I don't quite understand why you're thinking of superweapons as the first thing when you're making a fiction |
| 23:01.19 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 23:01.21 | Wormy_fiction | The energy they can generate. As drom said, his species can launch slugs very close to the speed of light |
| 23:01.58 | NoblaSour | i guess your right considering our rail guns can shoot 10 thousand miles and hit a aircraft carrier and vaporize it |
| 23:02.00 | drom | Railguns, as in concept and idea, is still usuable and a very feasible weapon in terms of application. |
| 23:02.07 | drom | It's only the technology that matters |
| 23:02.37 | Wormy_fiction | "The rock still hurts", as they say. |
| 23:02.51 | Hachiman | The idea of a railgun is simple thus applicable even to hi-tech societies |
| 23:03.03 | Technobliterator | Coilguns are better, though |
| 23:03.06 | Hachiman | The more simplistic a concept, the more versatile it is |
| 23:03.09 | drom | In fact I did alot of calculations to refine the idea, I thank Ghel and Wormy for their expert help. |
| 23:03.24 | drom | Techno: Ain't coilgun and railguns the exact same thing though? |
| 23:03.35 | Technobliterator | Nope |
| 23:03.35 | Hachiman | Being overspecialized is the downfall of many |
| 23:03.45 | Technobliterator | Coilguns are more advanced |
| 23:04.17 | drom | Different design, same shit http://members.tm.net/lapointe/EMGuns.gif |
| 23:04.31 | NoblaSour | coil guns are VERY diffrent from railguns |
| 23:04.45 | NoblaSour | as tech said they are more advanced and more affective |
| 23:04.50 | NoblaSour | and work slightly diffrent |
| 23:05.13 | Tek0516 | For railguns and other acceleration-based weapons it really is less the device itself and more how much you can accelerate. More you advance the more lethal it gets. |
| 23:05.16 | Technobliterator | *effective |
| 23:06.24 | Hachiman | I remember AdmiralPanda telling me that he managed to create a railgun which can accelerate a standard bag load of gravel to such a point it can penetrate heavy craft armour in Space Engineers I think it was |
| 23:06.57 | Wormy_fiction | I'm reading that railgun technology is currently more efficient as it requires less contact to accelerate a projectile. |
| 23:08.37 | Wormy_fiction | No doubt that will change inthe future. |
| 23:10.47 | NoblaSour | Do BioMetrics exist in this unviverse? |
| 23:11.01 | Tek0516 | Go fast enough and a few particles could shred planets. |
| 23:11.38 | NoblaSour | ? |
| 23:12.14 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 23:12.25 | NoblaSour | then i have an idea |
| 23:12.29 | NoblaSour | Mwuahhahahahahhahaha! |
| 23:12.43 | NoblaSour | btw |
| 23:12.47 | Wormy_fiction | I don't see why it wouldn't, the SporeWikiverse is on a hyperspatial revolution on the tier scale |
| 23:13.24 | NoblaSour | nukes are stupid and bassicaly equvivlent to using a Ballista firing stone bricks in these universe but can you still use them if you want to? |
| 23:13.52 | NoblaSour | well not nukes but atomic explosions?\ |
| 23:14.20 | Hachiman | Nukes are often utilised as the standard ballistic payload for assault craft involved in spatial combat |
| 23:14.57 | Hachiman | At least for lower-tier civilisations |
| 23:15.08 | NoblaSour | i have an idea |
| 23:15.25 | Hachiman | Also if you are talking about weapons that target specific biometric characteristics then I must inform that we already have those as well |
| 23:15.42 | Wormy_fiction | The SporeWikiverse ranges between Tier 4 and Tier 1 (low) mainly. It is suggested one starts out on a lower tier and moves upward so nukes are a possibility. |
| 23:16.22 | NoblaSour | could i make a nano tech super weapon that is Diffrent from the Von neumann probes? |
| 23:16.51 | NoblaSour | or dose the invention of von neumanns own and patent the invention of nano tech |
| 23:17.14 | Wormy_fiction | Well, non-neumann probes are incredibly simple, so thats a chalenge to make anything different-but-the-same more effective. |
| 23:17.15 | Hachiman | The only way they could be different from standard von Neumann probes is if the nanotechnology you have in mind does not self-replicate |
| 23:17.24 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:17.29 | Hachiman | Which is very inefficient |
| 23:17.59 | NoblaSour | What about a group of nano drones that create a miniture planet buster in the body of wheoevr or whatever they infect |
| 23:18.17 | NoblaSour | going unnoticed by metal detectors because they are made out of condensed plastic |
| 23:18.18 | Wormy_fiction | The idea of a non-nuemann probe is a self-replicating machines and uses materials for construction, and that is how they propagate exponentially. Although waste heat would be a limiting factor. |
| 23:18.20 | NoblaSour | not metal |
| 23:18.23 | Wormy_fiction | ... and mutations |
| 23:19.13 | Wormy_fiction | To be honest they are probably made of neither plastic nor metal in the sense you want to use them |
| 23:19.38 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:20.10 | Wormy_fiction | It has to be something that can survive immense pressure and temperature, is smart enough to over-crowd, and break down any compoiund it finds. |
| 23:20.23 | Wormy_fiction | *not to over-crowd |
| 23:20.34 | NoblaSour | wormy this is a universe where nano tech would already be at godly level |
| 23:21.37 | Wormy_fiction | Yeah but such godlike technologies only make good literature if they are well explained or presented. Saying its "godlike" is not enough for me. |
| 23:22.00 | NoblaSour | wormy can you explain how speed of light can be achieved |
| 23:22.27 | Technobliterator | Achieving the speed of light would be...very pointless : | |
| 23:22.33 | NoblaSour | or how you would place a wormhole to use it to teleport to a certain place you want without creating the wormhole in that one area |
| 23:22.34 | Technobliterator | Especially when you can just exceed it |
| 23:22.40 | Wormy_fiction | I could note some ways you could get close to the speed of c, and ways you might appear to exceed c but are not in any local frame. |
| 23:22.41 | Technobliterator | and if in doubt just use hyperspace |
| 23:22.55 | NoblaSour | wormy none of us can explain much of what we do |
| 23:23.01 | NoblaSour | in these fics |
| 23:23.34 | Wormy_fiction | Why do you think that? Users here have different preferred gradings of hardness |
| 23:23.41 | Wormy_fiction | We were talking about it earlier |
| 23:24.10 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:24.16 | NoblaSour | then lets see whatelse i can do |
| 23:24.18 | Wormy_fiction | Mine can't go above plausibly hard, so in a sense, its speculative, but not necessarily magic http://www.kheper.net/topics/scifi/grading.html |
| 23:24.22 | NoblaSour | nano tech is out of the question |
| 23:24.32 | NoblaSour | so is magnetic fields |
| 23:25.48 | Wormy_fiction | I hope I didn't put you off :P, nanotech is actually a very plausible Tier 4 and 3 weapon |
| 23:26.47 | Wormy_fiction | It just requires some caveats such that they disperse before friction takes over and can survive a lot of heat |
| 23:27.51 | Wormy_fiction | And tier 1 nanotech would be advanced yes, hyperspatial technology could we speculate, remove the problem of dumping heat completely |
| 23:28.04 | NoblaSour | wormy is machinery cant survive in the body of a creature how would the creatures own organs not burn up |
| 23:28.20 | NoblaSour | *if |
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| 23:29.20 | Wormy_fiction | That's a good question, the action of our bodies cells is obviously far below the limits we are talking about in terms of waste heat produced by chemical reactions |
| 23:29.25 | Hachiman | Hai husbando |
| 23:30.11 | DrodoEmpire | Back. |
| 23:30.19 | Wormy_fiction | The human body is also far less dense than the equivalent mass of nanosludge. |
| 23:30.24 | OluapPlayer | Don't be ghey in public pls |
| 23:30.41 | Hachiman | ;~; |
| 23:31.07 | Wormy_fiction | But if you want nanotech to consume a planet, waste heat becomes a problem. |
| 23:31.21 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, sorry I didn't get your question from earlier; I haven't unlocked buddies yet, no |
| 23:31.32 | NoblaSour | i dont mean a planet i mean the inhabbitants |
| 23:31.34 | DrodoEmpire | What's the discussion Wormy? NoblaSour? |
| 23:31.38 | Technobliterator | But Kaz just warned me of Quiet while on a side ops mission, so that...might count for something? |
| 23:31.38 | OluapPlayer | Not even DD? |
| 23:31.46 | Technobliterator | I have the horse |
| 23:31.54 | Wormy_fiction | Superweapons, specifically coilguns and nanotech so far. |
| 23:31.56 | Technobliterator | but that's it :c |
| 23:31.57 | Hachiman | I am surprised Ocelot is not a buddy from the start |
| 23:31.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh. |
| 23:31.59 | NoblaSour | i am trying to come up with a good super weapon |
| 23:32.01 | Technobliterator | Mhm |
| 23:32.10 | OluapPlayer | I hear he was meant to be a buddy but the idea was scrapped |
| 23:32.17 | NoblaSour | and wormy is helping out by shooting down the ideas taht dont work |
| 23:32.18 | DrodoEmpire | I'd say unless you want to make something intentionally complex, simpler is better. |
| 23:32.19 | OluapPlayer | Don't know how true it is though |
| 23:32.19 | Hachiman | FUCKING KONAMI |
| 23:32.20 | NoblaSour | *that |
| 23:32.30 | Technobliterator | I have the strategy guide, so I can check |
| 23:32.33 | OluapPlayer | Might be just 4chan parroting |
| 23:32.34 | Wormy_fiction | NoblaSour: In that case, nanoitechnology, and probably bio-nanotechnology are good choices. |
| 23:32.39 | Technobliterator | But I don't want spoilers :c |
| 23:32.51 | NoblaSour | how about |
| 23:32.57 | DrodoEmpire | A tungsten rod accelerated at a really, REALLY fast speed is good against targets with few defensive measures. |
| 23:33.00 | OluapPlayer | Game ends with Skullface spooking Venom to death via his skeleton-ness |
| 23:33.08 | Technobliterator | 10/10 |
| 23:33.19 | Technobliterator | oh, and the intro for MGSV? |
| 23:33.31 | Technobliterator | Imagine Mass Effect 2's intro, but imagine about 10 times more terrifying |
| 23:33.38 | Technobliterator | and Psycho Mantis and flaming Volgin in it |
| 23:33.38 | Technobliterator | yeah. |
| 23:34.02 | Hachiman | Read that as flaming Virgin for a moment |
| 23:34.06 | OluapPlayer | ME2 didn't have fucking Demon Volgin *throws trucks like they're nothing* Man on Fire |
| 23:34.50 | Technobliterator | Was it confirmed that he's Volgin? Or is it just obvious by his appearance? |
| 23:34.54 | NoblaSour | a 2 by 3 foot capsule that lands on a star with a planet buster inside you may be thinking "wont the capsule burn up" and the answer is yes it would if it hadnt been for a plasma shield sourounding it |
| 23:35.03 | OluapPlayer | It's confirmed |
| 23:35.06 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 23:35.09 | Hachiman | Kinda obvious but it is confirmed |
| 23:35.16 | NoblaSour | dont tell me thats imposible boeing already patented the idea for one and have started building plasma shields |
| 23:35.16 | OluapPlayer | You'll learn more in detail as you progress |
| 23:35.27 | Technobliterator | I also fought the Skulls |
| 23:35.38 | Technobliterator | They are not too different from the B&B corps |
| 23:35.44 | Technobliterator | so I knew what I was doing already |
| 23:35.49 | Hachiman | Except Skulls are far less annoying hur |
| 23:35.59 | DrodoEmpire | Nobla: Shielding is extremely common. |
| 23:36.10 | DrodoEmpire | Like even civilian starships have it |
| 23:36.10 | OluapPlayer | The Skulls don't stop you so you can hear about their tragic pasts |
| 23:36.13 | NoblaSour | the planet buster would dig into the center of the star and detonate blowing up the sun/star and creating a black hole which would suck in a the solar system |
| 23:36.20 | DrodoEmpire | Not possible |
| 23:36.26 | Technobliterator | Well, I meant the B&B corps as in, the normal soldier ones |
| 23:36.29 | NoblaSour | why |
| 23:36.33 | Hachiman | Ah right |
| 23:36.35 | DrodoEmpire | We aren't sure what the mechanism for planet busters really are |
| 23:36.36 | Technobliterator | like, the ones which aren't bosses |
| 23:36.38 | Wormy_fiction | NoblaSour: Keep in mind that plasma shield is going to need to resist the heat and pressure from the star itself, and that's just the problem with the capsule. |
| 23:36.51 | OluapPlayer | Did you not come across Puppy DD yet? I'd expect him to be found before the Skulls |
| 23:36.55 | DrodoEmpire | But if they're a mere explosive, then even a huge explosion will do little to something as huge as a star |
| 23:37.05 | Technobliterator | I did not :o |
| 23:37.05 | Hachiman | You come across Puppy DD post-Skulls |
| 23:37.15 | OluapPlayer | Guess I thought wrong thne |
| 23:37.18 | OluapPlayer | then* |
| 23:37.20 | Technobliterator | I'm barely 1/5th into this game and I've played it for hours |
| 23:37.22 | Technobliterator | like holy fuck |
| 23:37.27 | Technobliterator | longest MGS ever much? |
| 23:37.35 | OluapPlayer | That's been confirmed for a while |
| 23:37.46 | NoblaSour | it would at least blow up enough of the center which would make the star collapse upon it self |
| 23:37.46 | OluapPlayer | It has 2 chapters, first chapter is around 30 hours long |
| 23:37.50 | DrodoEmpire | And if it turned into a black hole it wouldn't just suck everything in. A black hole is simply an *extremely* dense entity. If the sun turned into a black hole (heaven forbid), it would still have the exact same gravity. |
| 23:38.08 | DrodoEmpire | It'd just be very small, very dense, and produce no light. |
| 23:38.12 | Hachiman | I am surprised anything is longer than MGS4 |
| 23:38.16 | Wormy_fiction | The only way you could blow up a star like that is by feeding stellar material into it to speed up its life cycle (probably using a wormhole, or the reversem to remove fusing material and cool the star) so the core collapses without enough pressure to counter |
| 23:38.22 | Wormy_fiction | -balance gravity |
| 23:38.30 | OluapPlayer | MGS4 was only long because it had a gazillion cutscenes |
| 23:38.41 | NoblaSour | well it if the sun of a planet is gone that would still affect it right? |
| 23:38.43 | DrodoEmpire | And how so? In order for a star to literally blow up you'd need to induce the fusion of larger elements in the core. |
| 23:38.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yes of course |
| 23:38.54 | Wormy_fiction | But wormhole star killers are not an original idea even to SporeWiki |
| 23:38.55 | DrodoEmpire | But it wouldn't suck everything in. |
| 23:38.57 | Hachiman | MGSV is probably gonna go on record as having the longest singleplayer campaign in history |
| 23:39.12 | OluapPlayer | Eh, that's a bit of a stretch |
| 23:39.22 | OluapPlayer | In a stealth game, maybe. In every game ever, not a chance |
| 23:39.23 | Technobliterator | Definitely not, with how many RPGs are out there |
| 23:39.27 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:39.30 | Hachiman | Ah yeah trye |
| 23:39.31 | NoblaSour | back to the drawing board |
| 23:39.32 | Hachiman | true even |
| 23:39.33 | DrodoEmpire | The only practical way to annihilate a star is to accelerate its life cycle, and even that's generally more trouble than its worth. |
| 23:39.41 | Technobliterator | And yes, I was about to say |
| 23:39.50 | Technobliterator | it's like the did the exact opposite as they did in MGS4 |
| 23:39.58 | OluapPlayer | They did just that |
| 23:40.08 | OluapPlayer | Gameplay is the focus this time around |
| 23:40.39 | OluapPlayer | Metal Gear finally transited from being a movie into a videogame |
| 23:40.50 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 23:40.57 | NoblaSour | hmm |
| 23:40.59 | Technobliterator | The story has not suffered from it, though |
| 23:41.14 | Technobliterator | I didn't expect this game to be my favourite MGS ever made, but it juuuuuuuust might be |
| 23:41.29 | Wormy_fiction | DrodoEmpire, NoblaSaour: The easier, simpler option is to darken a star by somehow putting a lot of mirrors of debris to darken its apparent luminosity. Simpler anbd much more effective. I prefer calling star-weapons, "star killers" for this reason. You don't need to blow em up. |
| 23:42.02 | NoblaSour | did i already say a nano tech small as an atom splitting all atoms they can find? |
| 23:42.34 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno if its that easy |
| 23:42.53 | NoblaSour | nothing is! XD |
| 23:42.59 | Wormy_fiction | But that doesn't really make physical sense. The atomic scale is far below nano, and by splitting atoms you need a fission reactor or bomb |
| 23:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | Nor do I think its possible to really create a nanobot as small or smaller than an atom |
| 23:43.22 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:43.26 | NoblaSour | next option |
| 23:43.27 | DrodoEmpire | *"nano" bot that is. |
| 23:43.35 | DrodoEmpire | As Wormy said its well below nanoscale |
| 23:43.51 | Wormy_fiction | You just can't manipulate atomic nuclei to decay in-situ, they decay via half life, which is a quantum phenomenon. |
| 23:44.12 | Wormy_fiction | No chemical or nanoscale reaction will do it |
| 23:44.26 | NoblaSour | you know what? |
| 23:44.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm? |
| 23:44.31 | NoblaSour | screw super weapons |
| 23:44.39 | NoblaSour | they arent that important |
| 23:44.42 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:44.43 | NoblaSour | right? |
| 23:44.55 | DrodoEmpire | Superweapons aren't very strategically significany |
| 23:44.59 | DrodoEmpire | *significant |
| 23:45.31 | Wormy_fiction | They only make sense if they are sensibly used in context. Or they are just a cliche |
| 23:45.32 | DrodoEmpire | Its almost always a better idea to invest the resources you'd put in an arsenal of superweapons into building an army or fleet |
| 23:45.48 | DrodoEmpire | Armies and fleets are *far* more flexible and permenant. |
| 23:45.53 | DrodoEmpire | *permanant |
| 23:45.58 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:46.04 | DrodoEmpire | Superweapons are often just good for scaring the enemy public |
| 23:46.16 | Wormy_fiction | And technologies like nano could go hand in hand in construction of versaltile materials and medicine. |
| 23:46.50 | DrodoEmpire | As while they are "super", there's almost always only a limited number of them which limits their actual potential to cripple an enemy nation |
| 23:49.04 | Wormy_fiction | I just want to fact check what I said above, we can manipulate atomic nuclei to decay via bombardment of very energetic particles, though that is still below the chemical scale. |
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| 23:51.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hello again |
| 23:52.19 | NoblaSour | hey sorry i acciendently clicked airplane mode |
| 23:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | No problem |
| 23:52.45 | Wormy_fiction | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.36 | Wormy_fiction | and that bombardment is different to radioactive decay |
| 23:56.22 | Wormy_fiction | Also you might have missed |
| 23:56.24 | Wormy_fiction | [00:45] <Wormy_fiction> And technologies like nano could go hand in hand in construction of versaltile materials and medicine. |
| 23:56.34 | Wormy_fiction | for fleets and armies |
| 23:57.00 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 23:57.16 | NoblaSour | ok |
| 23:57.27 | NoblaSour | i just wanted to advance my millitery |
| 23:57.38 | NoblaSour | right now my most advanced thing is a plasma blade and drop ships |
| 23:58.03 | Wormy_fiction | Fair enough, keep in mind all these are suggestions, not rules. Make whatever you like |
