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| 00:56.45 | Rexmon | anyone? |
| 00:58.36 | Rexmon | Or is Spore dead?:( |
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| 01:02.02 | Technobliterator | Last we were told, they're still moving servers |
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| 12:41.57 | AdmiralPanda_ | hi all |
| 12:42.04 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:43.24 | Liquid_Ink | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Venhokwe_Oligarchy Done the culture section. Will work on politics next time I can. |
| 12:45.20 | AdmiralPanda_ | any word from Hachi recently? |
| 12:45.45 | Monet | He was on yesterday. |
| 12:46.13 | AdmiralPanda_ | yeah, he had a loss of power- just asking if he's come back since then |
| 12:46.34 | Monet | Not that i've seen |
| 12:50.13 | Monet | I'm going ot write about Alcanti's atmosphere. One thing I'd like to do is explai nhow it gets this https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11952724_632795446857222_4297325092540140240_o.jpg as a sunset |
| 12:51.13 | Monet | So I'm thinking what gas cocktail could give that effect. |
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| 12:52.01 | Ghelae | Which effect in particular are you thinking of? The halo, the colour...? |
| 12:52.24 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:52.56 | drom | Monet: What does the engine say about the atmosphere's contents? |
| 12:52.59 | Monet | The colour. |
| 12:53.00 | Im_not_a_robot | 01001000 01100101 01101100 01101100 01101111 |
| 12:53.49 | Monet | I'm sensing higher amounts of argon and/or xenon and lower amounts of neon. |
| 12:55.21 | drom | Im_not_a_robot: 010101110110010101101100011000110110111101101101011001010000110100001010 |
| 12:55.51 | drom | 01000001011011000111001101101111001000000110101101101001011100110111001100100000011011010111100100100000011100110110100001101001011011100111100100100000011000010111001101110011001000010000110100001010 |
| 12:57.04 | Monet | drom: Ah, didn't look to see if SE gave a list |
| 12:57.07 | Monet | One moment then |
| 12:57.09 | Ghelae | The reason why sunsets are usually red on Earth is because of scattering effects, which are independent of what the atmosphere is made of. |
| 12:57.40 | drom | In case anyone is wondering: He said "Hello", in binary (our text is presented through hexadecimal which can be translated to binary). So I responded accordingly with "Welcome" and then joking replied with a catchphrase of Bender from Futurama: "Also kiss my shiny ass!" |
| 12:57.52 | drom | Ghelae: Also don't forget the electrospectrum. |
| 12:58.03 | drom | Different gases give different colors |
| 12:58.29 | Ghelae | Yes, but it's scattering that matters most for why Earth's sunsets are red. |
| 12:58.41 | drom | True |
| 12:59.08 | drom | Physics is beautiful if not too complex |
| 12:59.17 | Ghelae | So having a sort of purplish glow in the line of sight towards the sun isn't something that's so easy to get. You have to somehow counteract the fact that the shorter-wavelength light is being scattered away. |
| 12:59.31 | Im_not_a_robot | drom: 0111011101101001011101000110100000100000011011110111001001100111011000010111001101101101011011110111010001110010011011110110111001101001011000110010000001110000011011000110010101100001011100110111010101110010011001010000110100001010 |
| 12:59.59 | Ghelae | Shining red light onto a gas is not generally going to make it emit higher-energy colours. |
| 13:00.26 | drom | Im_not_a_robot: 00000001 |
| 13:00.37 | Monet | Well the planet has an atmospheric pressure of 419.4855 kilopascals if it affects anything |
| 13:02.14 | Ghelae | I don't think so. |
| 13:02.21 | Monet | and a desnity of 4.44kg/m3 |
| 13:03.26 | Monet | Hang on I'm back in the engine and I do get a red light after the parent star has dissapeared below the horizon |
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| 13:03.41 | Hachiman | Finally |
| 13:03.45 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:03.48 | Hachiman | Power's back |
| 13:03.51 | Monet | Its still slightly pinkish though |
| 13:05.12 | Monet | Okay I've had a look at the planet in the editor |
| 13:05.31 | Monet | That colour is because the planet is using a neptunian atmosphere. |
| 13:05.33 | Monet | model |
| 13:06.09 | Ghelae | Perhaps that means there's very little scattering of short-wavelength light. |
| 13:07.07 | Monet | Maybe |
| 13:07.24 | Monet | Neptune's atmosphere is primarily light elements like hydrogen and helium |
| 13:07.58 | Monet | But also methane and ice. |
| 13:08.19 | AdmiralPanda_ | hai Hachiman |
| 13:08.23 | Ghelae | It could be that the red light is nearly all being absorbed by the methane, so while a lot of blue is being scattered away, it's also not being drowned out by red. |
| 13:09.04 | Ghelae | I don't think you want to fill Alcanti's atmosphere with a highly flammale greenhouse gas, though. :P |
| 13:09.10 | Ghelae | flammable* |
| 13:10.03 | Monet | Oxygen isn't exactly the most inert gas in the world either. |
| 13:10.26 | Ghelae | No, it's oxygen alongside the methane that's the problem. |
| 13:10.40 | Ghelae | Lots of methane inside a hydrogen atmosphere would be fine. |
| 13:10.49 | Ghelae | Hence the lack of fires of Neptune. |
| 13:11.32 | Ghelae | on* |
| 13:11.56 | Monet | Even if the proportion is still parts per million? |
| 13:12.52 | Ghelae | In which case? For the hydrogen atmosphere, methane is as reduced as it's going to get. You can't fit more hydrogen atoms onto that carbon. So the two molecules just aren't going to react. |
| 13:13.03 | Ghelae | For an oxygen atmosphere, I'd have to look into that. |
| 13:13.39 | Monet | I am slightly inclined now as to the possibility of if Draocnis don't breathe oxygen |
| 13:13.40 | Ghelae | Apparently methane is at a couple of ppm even here on Earth. |
| 13:14.57 | Monet | Oxygen is used in the respiration cycle as a binding agent for spent hydrogen that has been broken down from glucose molecules and passed though the mitochondria. |
| 13:16.12 | drom | Monet: I can say that I'm on the boat, since I've been thinking about the Nomatari breathing nitrogen compounds, primiarily N2O if possible, so that will make up the fact that they low body tempatures to survive heat and cold. |
| 13:16.44 | Ghelae | Not exactly... it's purpose is the terminal electron acceptor, that is, it receives electrons that have lost energy going through the mitochondria. |
| 13:16.56 | Monet | I was close. |
| 13:17.37 | Ghelae | With hydrogen, you could think of it a running the process backwards: rather than oxidising glucose, respiration involves reducing some other molecule. |
| 13:17.41 | Im_not_a_robot | drom http://imgur.com/gallery/O6KigaR |
| 13:18.19 | Ghelae | Im_not_a_robot: Actual footage of science there. |
| 13:18.48 | drom | Aye |
| 13:18.57 | Im_not_a_robot | Indeed |
| 13:19.05 | Monet | Okay so we know methane exists in small quantities in Earth's atmosphere |
| 13:19.23 | Monet | And yesterday I listed Alcanti's global temperature as being 37 degrees. |
| 13:19.57 | Ghelae | drom: I wouldn't think nitrogen compounds are a good choice for respiration... is there any reason why you think they would make up for low body temperatures? |
| 13:20.15 | drom | Ghelae Im_not_a_robot: "These life hacks are getting ridiculous" |
| 13:20.46 | drom | Ghelae: Good question, it was all an wild conclusion, really. |
| 13:21.02 | Monet | Alcanti is already under a more considerable greenhosue effect than Earth. |
| 13:22.27 | Ghelae | The further away you make it from its star, the more methane it can have in its atmosphere without being too warm. |
| 13:23.02 | Ghelae | But I don't know how much methane you'd need for violet sunsets. |
| 13:23.57 | Monet | Well according to this http://www.universetoday.com/21584/atmosphere-of-neptune/ even at the surface of Neptune there's only a trace amount of methane |
| 13:25.03 | Ghelae | 1.5% here: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/neptunefact.html |
| 13:25.38 | Ghelae | Without doing any maths, I'm going to take a complete guess and say you won't have any problems with runaway global warming even at those levels. |
| 13:26.43 | Ghelae | But flammability... remember, hydrogen is light, so if you don't want Draconis to breathe oxygen, you'd need to make Alcanti a super-Earth to stop a hydrogen atmosphere from escaping into space. |
| 13:28.00 | AdmiralPanda_ | I did a very short search, and nitrogen is unfavourable for aerobic respiration since the "normal" reaction would actually require a greater input of energy than output |
| 13:28.23 | AdmiralPanda_ | that was however assuming pure nitrogen |
| 13:28.26 | Ghelae | Pure nitrogen is definitely terrible due to the triple bond. |
| 13:28.54 | Im_not_a_robot | http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6671182/foo-fighters-westboro-baptist-church-rickrolling |
| 13:29.09 | Monet | Hmm, below Oxygen on the perioic table is sulfur. Which unfortunately is solid until 444 degrees C and the only gaseous forms of sulfur are oxides. |
| 13:30.07 | Ghelae | A far better way of finding suitable respiratory gases, albeit still crude, is to compare electronegativities. |
| 13:30.45 | AdmiralPanda_ | can I ask for the context as to why you don't want the Draconis to breathe oxygen? |
| 13:30.58 | drom | Ghelae: Aside oxygen, which other gases do you think would suit as respiratory gases on hot and dry planets? |
| 13:31.46 | Monet | AdmiralPanda_: I have a Space Engine planet for them that gives purple sunsets but as we've found out the reason is high amounts of methane in the atmosphere, which doesnt' react well with oxygen. |
| 13:32.00 | Ghelae | I did a basic bit of writing about alien biochemistries here: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Guide_To_Stuff#Xenobiology |
| 13:32.08 | AdmiralPanda_ | right |
| 13:32.19 | drom | Right |
| 13:32.37 | Ghelae | Oxygen is really your best gas, although for other oxidisers you could have halogens, if they haven't all reacted with other elements to form rocks and salts. |
| 13:32.48 | Monet | Looking at Earth for a comparison: Methane in earth's atmosphere: 775ppb Methane in Neptune's atmosphere: 1500ppm. |
| 13:33.10 | AdmiralPanda_ | are there upper atmosphere gases that could cause the same effect without necessarily interfering with respiration close to the planet's surface? |
| 13:33.23 | Monet | There's roughly 2000x more methane in Neptune's atmosphere. |
| 13:33.26 | Ghelae | The reducing agents mentioned there are better for cold planets: hydrogen, and hydrocarbons such as methane. |
| 13:33.54 | Im_not_a_robot | "Small dogs never think they're little." http://imgur.com/gallery/0q18RhC |
| 13:34.08 | Ghelae | Although as we've been discussing, methane is a greenhouse gas, so that could work on a hot dry planet. |
| 13:34.08 | Monet | The lack of oxygen, as Ghelae suggested, is likely why Neptune's atmosphere isn't almost permanently ablaze. |
| 13:36.29 | drom | I've been thinking that the Solvalis would have an atmosphere of nitrogen oxides and hydrogen compunds. |
| 13:37.06 | Ghelae | Monet: You could search for other gases that absorb red light. Maybe some of them will be simple enough to be natural, while also not being highly reactive in oxygen. |
| 13:37.36 | drom | But the problems is the fact that planet is hot, so it is close to the sun. And hydrogen is probably too hard to be kept stable at that point |
| 13:38.41 | Monet | Ghelae: Wormy explored the planet yesterday and claimed it seemed rather humid to him. Maybe high amounts of water vapour? |
| 13:39.52 | drom | So I found this page: http://www.webelements.com/hydrogen/compounds.html |
| 13:40.29 | Ghelae | drom: The problem with having pure hydrogen in an atmosphere is that, at reasonable temperatures, individual molecules will be travelling at faster speeds than Earth's escape velocity. Heavier hydrogen compounds won't have that problem. |
| 13:40.48 | Ghelae | Monet: Water absorbs mainly in the far infrared and microwave spectrum, doesn't it? |
| 13:41.21 | drom | Ghelae: Including if the planet is faster that said escape velocity, just an assumption. |
| 13:41.22 | Monet | I think so. |
| 13:41.44 | Ghelae | Ah, the electronic absorption of water is in the UV. Which also doesn't help. |
| 13:42.03 | Ghelae | drom: Heavier planets with higher escape velocities can hold onto hydrogen, which is how the gas giants do it. |
| 13:42.05 | drom | Which reminds me, I should go and try Space Engine again even if it pays a huge toll on my computer's internal GPU |
| 13:43.19 | drom | Interesting, but what can get N2O and a heavy hydrogen compound together to create a reaction where biological life can relay on? |
| 13:44.21 | drom | I mean, if we assume that the reaction produces water (H2O) and a heavy nitrogen compound or as a free gas including other by/waste-products |
| 13:44.26 | Im_not_a_robot | On a the subject of "atmospheres igniting", its not really possible but you can expect larger explosions http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Gas_giant#Can.27t_land_on_gas_giants.3F |
| 13:44.29 | Ghelae | N2O would probably be a fairly inert gas, playing the same role as nitrogen does in our atmosphere. |
| 13:46.28 | Ghelae | As a rough guess, you'd have some oxygen-rich sugar taking the place of Earth's hydrogen-rich sugars, which are reduced by methane to make water and CO2. That's basically swapping the place of hydrogen and oxygen between sugar and air, and it may not be very realistic. |
| 13:46.36 | Monet | Well I've found one plausable evolutionary trait though SE - Because of the atmosphere, I think Draconis' eyes would perhaps have either an overall broader light intensity tolerance, or a higher tolerance for brighter light. |
| 13:47.07 | Ghelae | Perhaps if the sugars are nitrogenous, the outcome of the reaction would be N2O. |
| 13:47.39 | Ghelae | Although the carbon from the methane would still have to be removed somehow. |
| 13:47.48 | drom | Ain't there nitrogenous salts and acids as well? |
| 13:47.55 | AdmiralPanda_ | filtration through the blood? |
| 13:47.58 | Monet | Since the thicker atmosphere would reduce visibility. |
| 13:48.45 | AdmiralPanda_ | the excess carbon could be bound to a waste molecule and filtered out from the bloodstream in the kidneys |
| 13:48.57 | Ghelae | drom: Yes, there are all kinds of compounds containing nitrogen. Just as with hydrogen, carbon, oxygen etc. AdmiralPanda_: I mean, the carbon has to become part of some other waste product. |
| 13:49.13 | AdmiralPanda_ | ah right I get you |
| 13:49.37 | drom | Just like how we do with natrium, ammoniak (nitrogen and hydrogen, right?) AdmiralPanda |
| 13:49.59 | AdmiralPanda_ | the issue isn't so much what to do with the carbon, it's the extra waste components to attach the carbon to that is the issue |
| 13:50.41 | drom | What about the carbon is used as a building stone use to construct the body? |
| 13:50.45 | drom | used* |
| 13:50.45 | Ghelae | That's why I'm assuming CO2 would still be produced. |
| 13:51.20 | Ghelae | drom: If it's anything like on Earth, those will be produced during photosynthesis, and animals will get them from their diet. |
| 13:51.22 | AdmiralPanda_ | drom: That still doesn't solve the issue of what does the carbon connect to during the respiration process |
| 13:52.29 | Monet | I'd say Draconis' tolerance of bright lights might be roughly double the tolerance of he human eye. |
| 13:52.40 | Monet | Made possible by a smaller pupil |
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| 13:53.09 | Hachiman | Hai Imp |
| 13:53.21 | Monet | Hey maybe that's why Draconis could have two pairs of eyes - one set for daylight, one set for moonlight? |
| 13:53.49 | AdmiralPanda_ | they'd probably have a secondary eyelid rather than secondary eyes outright |
| 13:53.52 | AdmiralPanda_ | like built in sunglasses |
| 13:54.05 | Hachiman | Reminds me of crocodiles |
| 13:54.20 | AdmiralPanda_ | ^ I was more thinking camels, same basic principle |
| 13:54.37 | drom | Or strong ring muscles that allows the pupils to retract and extend to drasatic merasurements |
| 13:54.53 | Monet | I believe Hachi's thinking of nicitating membranes |
| 13:55.08 | AdmiralPanda_ | drom: too much light will burn the sensors, the same reason you go blind if you stare at the sun |
| 13:55.31 | AdmiralPanda_ | even if you're restricting the hole the light can go through, if it's too bright it'll still cause damage |
| 13:55.40 | Ghelae | Monet: On the topic of Alcanti's atmosphere, one of the first things you suggested was less neon, presumably because neon emits red light. But the same physics should make it absorb red light, so one option could be that there's actually a lot of neon. |
| 13:56.10 | AdmiralPanda_ | Monet: ah yeah, that would actually work perfectly |
| 13:56.23 | AdmiralPanda_ | a tinted membrane that, as I said, effectively acts as a natural pair of sunglasses |
| 13:56.27 | drom | AdmiralPanda: of course, you could have a shaded membrane, but it is a shoot and miss. |
| 13:56.28 | Monet | Ghelae: I know it emits light under an electric current. |
| 13:56.41 | Monet | emits red light* |
| 13:57.05 | drom | So, secondary eyelid is the way to go |
| 13:57.49 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: Most nicitating membranes I've seen tend to be white or transparent. TO protect the eye from water damage for both and to permit visibility for the latter. Maybe Draocnid nicitating membranes are black? |
| 13:57.58 | AdmiralPanda_ | that's what I'm thinking |
| 13:58.04 | drom | Interestingly, I've read about that the pupil's size play an effect on what wavelengths can be allowed inside. |
| 13:58.05 | Ghelae | Yes. That's because the difference between a particular pair of energy levels in a neon atom corresponds to the energy of red light. So once a neon atom has absorbed energy to raise an electron to the higher of the two levels, it then can fall back down to the lower-energy state by emitting a red photon. |
| 13:58.33 | AdmiralPanda_ | well perhaps not solid black, but translucent with a dark tint |
| 13:58.49 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: Not solid black no. |
| 13:58.53 | Imperios | So basically what you suggest is for Draconis to have biological sunglasses |
| 13:58.58 | Imperios | It's kind of cool TBH |
| 13:59.03 | AdmiralPanda_ | Imperios: I've literally said exactly that twice noe |
| 13:59.04 | AdmiralPanda_ | now* |
| 13:59.08 | Ghelae | The same process will then work in reverse: it can absorb a red photon to raise an electron up an energy level. This photon will then be almost immediately re-emitted, but in a random direction rather than in the same direction (from the sun) the original one came from. |
| 13:59.09 | Imperios | Right |
| 13:59.40 | Ghelae | This then scatters red light *more* than blue light is scatterd by Rayleigh scattering. |
| 14:00.06 | drom | AdmiralPanda_ Monet: Prehaps you could give them photochromic membranes |
| 14:00.07 | Imperios | What are you actually talking about other than Draconis biology? |
| 14:00.19 | Ghelae | The only problem with neon will be that it's also quite light, so we have the escape velocity problem again. |
| 14:00.22 | drom | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photochromic_lens |
| 14:00.28 | Ghelae | Monet: Alcanti's atmosphere and how to give it purple sunsets. |
| 14:00.34 | Ghelae | Not Monet. |
| 14:00.42 | Ghelae | Imperios: Alcanti's atmosphere and the rest. |
| 14:00.47 | drom | Mostly a technical thing, but it is however an interesting concept |
| 14:00.50 | Imperios | Ah |
| 14:00.55 | AdmiralPanda_ | drom: that requires a natural chloride or halide within the lens |
| 14:01.04 | AdmiralPanda_ | usually one of silver |
| 14:01.05 | Monet | Ghelae: I might stick with oxygen as Draocnis are carbon-based lifeforms but up the amount of neon and decrease the amount of argon (based on these physics, Argon absorbs a lot of blue light in Earth's atmosphere) and up the amount of methane a little |
| 14:01.19 | Monet | Silver does not play nice with organic tissue. |
| 14:01.25 | Ghelae | That makes sense. |
| 14:02.22 | Ghelae | Yes... the problem with neon is how light it is, which is why it's so very rare on Earth. |
| 14:03.23 | AdmiralPanda_ | much easier to just have a highly pigmented membrane really |
| 14:03.38 | AdmiralPanda_ | evolution does trend towards efficiency after all |
| 14:04.01 | drom | there is aswell so called forced natural selection |
| 14:04.28 | Monet | Ghelae: Alcanti has a slightly higher gravitational constant. |
| 14:04.29 | Hachiman | Unless you're a fucking panda in which case evolution screwed you over |
| 14:05.05 | drom | Uh, is it natural for SE to take an eterenity to bootup? |
| 14:05.17 | AdmiralPanda_ | what are you on about? pandas are quite well evolved for their habitat |
| 14:05.38 | Monet | drom: Check to make sure you have the latest graphics drivers |
| 14:05.48 | AdmiralPanda_ | and don't you dare bring up the video about pandas rolling down a slide because that is not their natural habitat |
| 14:05.55 | Hachiman | hur |
| 14:05.57 | Im_not_a_robot | Noble gases are depleted on planets as they form, so neon will probably always be quite rare. |
| 14:06.32 | AdmiralPanda_ | in all seriousness though, a panda is just any other bear adapted in favour of their available food sources |
| 14:06.51 | AdmiralPanda_ | and with a +1337% modifier to adorableness at all ages |
| 14:06.53 | drom | Monet: The problem is, the internal GPU is an Intel integrated to the motherboard |
| 14:07.10 | Monet | drom: Ah. |
| 14:07.32 | drom | And unsurprisingly, it is one of the terrible kind |
| 14:07.39 | Hachiman | And yet their rate of reproduction is at an all-time low |
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| 14:08.03 | Im_not_a_robot | I mean yes, as Alcanti has more mass it might just hold onto a little bit more |
| 14:08.09 | Ghelae | Let's see... the mean kinetic energy corresponding to a given temperature is Sqrt(3kT/m), where the mass of a neon atom is abou 2.25x10^-26 kg, and the a average temperature of Alcanti is... let's assume around 300 K. |
| 14:08.21 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 14:08.41 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 14:08.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 14:08.46 | Imperios | Hiya |
| 14:09.04 | Monet | Ghelae: Roughly right. |
| 14:09.12 | AdmiralPanda_ | actually their reproduction rate is a byproduct of their new environment in captivity |
| 14:09.13 | Ghelae | So, 609 m/s. |
| 14:09.21 | AdmiralPanda_ | they don't actually have fertility problems in the wild |
| 14:09.54 | Ghelae | You know, I don't actually know how to calculate how much neon will escape a planet's atmosphere given that... |
| 14:10.13 | Ghelae | It's probably the upper end of the distribution that matters, not the fairly low-velocity mean. |
| 14:10.32 | AdmiralPanda_ | now that I look at it, holy shit pandas are horny buggers during the seven to twelve days that they get to be |
| 14:10.39 | Hachiman | hur |
| 14:10.49 | Monet | Ghelae: Probably. 609m/s is well below escape velocity. |
| 14:11.08 | AdmiralPanda_ | the problem with the captivity system is there's no competition so the males don't exactly feel motivated to try |
| 14:11.32 | Ghelae | But as a comparison, for oxygen the speed is a mere 474 m/s. |
| 14:11.35 | AdmiralPanda_ | and since the females are only fertile for the aforementioned seven to twelve days, that doesn't work out well |
| 14:11.42 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 14:11.57 | Im_not_a_robot | I recall learning an equation that uses Boltzmann's constant (which looks like yours though) to calculate the escape velocity of gaseous elements in an atmosphere to guage how long it stays there |
| 14:12.28 | Im_not_a_robot | Keep in mind the effects of solar radiation which can also knock into atoms in the upper atmosphere and deplete them |
| 14:13.03 | Monet | Im_not_a_robot: That would be useful. |
| 14:13.36 | AdmiralPanda_ | the other problem is their handlers still haven't figured out A) how to tell the females are in heat and B) whether or not they're pregnant |
| 14:13.38 | Im_not_a_robot | Going to find it now. I think its *is* the equation Ghel is using though but its worth a check |
| 14:14.08 | Monet | Aldra's likely a dwarf star so its not as prone to solar flarees or CMEs as Sol is. |
| 14:14.19 | AdmiralPanda_ | and before you ask, yes they've tried literally every technique ever, and none of them work properly |
| 14:15.10 | Hachiman | I remember one story where a female panda managed to fake pregnancy behaviour in order for her handlers to give her more food |
| 14:15.42 | Monet | Hachiman: Well at least they're not stupid. |
| 14:15.48 | AdmiralPanda_ | pandas have a thing called pseudopregnancy, where they act like they're in heat/pregnant to manipulate the behaviour of males |
| 14:16.11 | Monet | I vaguely recall a lot of panda enclosures don't have many pandas in them. |
| 14:16.28 | AdmiralPanda_ | Monet: They don't, usually only a mated pair |
| 14:16.40 | AdmiralPanda_ | which as I said before is part of the problem |
| 14:16.56 | AdmiralPanda_ | pandas ideally want to have a high proportion of males per female |
| 14:17.16 | Monet | Wait a minute... |
| 14:17.19 | AdmiralPanda_ | or at the very least a significant number of males |
| 14:18.03 | Monet | In heat for a short period of the year...males are horny as hell...Unpredictable heat cycles (I'm guessing). Pandas are starting to sound like Draconis. |
| 14:18.24 | AdmiralPanda_ | heh |
| 14:18.55 | Monet | Except Draconis don't sit on their arse all day every day chewing bamboo for hours on end. |
| 14:19.02 | AdmiralPanda_ | so what you're saying is draconis are fat, slow to act and spend most of their day eating? |
| 14:19.35 | AdmiralPanda_ | and in our defence, pandas eat a lot of bamboo because it's not very nutritious |
| 14:19.36 | Imperios | That synchronicity |
| 14:19.39 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11915445_2383906921656484_4758286712874375287_n.jpg?oh=ffe316f39df56326cf4258185dd5ad63&oe=563DC038 "That must have been some laser." |
| 14:20.01 | Hachiman | So pandas are evolutionarily adapted to junk food hur |
| 14:20.23 | Monet | Fat? yes, slow to act? Often because they live for centuries, spend most of their day eating? Depends on the 'conis in question. |
| 14:20.35 | AdmiralPanda_ | Monet: I was teasing you :P |
| 14:21.06 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: I was responding in jest. |
| 14:21.24 | Monet | Or at least trying to |
| 14:21.33 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachiman: well, when your options are eat a ton of easily available, never going to run out unless land clearing happens food, or trying to hunt enough small fishes to sustain yourself, take your pick |
| 14:21.43 | AdmiralPanda_ | Monet: I know, just being clear |
| 14:21.52 | Technobliterator | Okay, Thane Krios is definitely my favourite ME2 character |
| 14:22.02 | Im_not_a_robot | Vmps = k T / m Some general rules about the thermal escape: velocity increases with higher T and lesser m; the escape velocity decreases based on exosphere height and the smaller the planet |
| 14:22.08 | Hachiman | It is like you forgot about Zaeed |
| 14:22.20 | Technobliterator | I like Miranda, Jacob and Garrus, but Thane is the best |
| 14:22.32 | Technobliterator | oh, Legion and Grunt are good |
| 14:22.33 | Imperios | Let me guess |
| 14:22.36 | Imperios | You have hots for Thane don't you |
| 14:22.37 | Hachiman | Garrus is the best ME character in general |
| 14:22.45 | Technobliterator | No? |
| 14:22.52 | Hachiman | Actually Grunt is my favourite ME2 character hur |
| 14:22.55 | Technobliterator | Thane is just the most interesting character of them all |
| 14:22.55 | AdmiralPanda_ | tbh my favourite is Legion |
| 14:22.58 | Technobliterator | and the most tragic |
| 14:23.04 | Imperios | Alright I won't count Samara then |
| 14:23.10 | Im_not_a_robot | If the average gas particle speed is less than one-sixth the escape velocity, more than one half of that gas is left after one billion years |
| 14:23.10 | Technobliterator | Samara was...ok |
| 14:23.19 | Technobliterator | I think Morinth had a pretty sad story |
| 14:23.23 | Imperios | Ya |
| 14:23.24 | Hachiman | Morinth is a cunt |
| 14:23.28 | Technobliterator | No she's not |
| 14:23.49 | Imperios | I do not like asari in general but Samara is cool |
| 14:23.52 | Hachiman | She takes pleasure in killing people and puts on a guise so others feel sorry for and seduced by her |
| 14:23.56 | Technobliterator | She's a killer, but it's not her fault |
| 14:23.56 | Imperios | And not just because of her cleavage |
| 14:24.04 | Imperios | Her sisters did just fine |
| 14:24.06 | OluapPlayer | Morinth is a serial killer who does what she does out of pleasure, she had a chance to live in peace with her two sisters but she preferred to run |
| 14:24.18 | Technobliterator | But it was completely beyond her control |
| 14:24.24 | Monet | Still, having an atmosphere like Neptune explains why the planet I found for Alcanti has no life on it despite orbiting a dwarf star old enough to qualify for Population II categorisation. |
| 14:24.33 | OluapPlayer | It wasn't, as shown by her sisters |
| 14:24.35 | Imperios | Alright seriously, Legion and Mordin are my favourite |
| 14:24.36 | AdmiralPanda_ | her syndrome was beyond her control, what she did with it was well and truly within her control |
| 14:24.38 | Imperios | favourites |
| 14:24.40 | Imperios | And Tali |
| 14:24.49 | OluapPlayer | Tali is best girl |
| 14:24.52 | Imperios | ^ |
| 14:24.55 | Technobliterator | She was born as an accident, and the only way to solve her problem was to kill her |
| 14:24.55 | AdmiralPanda_ | ^ |
| 14:25.05 | Hachiman | OR have her live with her sisters |
| 14:25.05 | Technobliterator | I...don't have much of an opinion on Tali |
| 14:25.12 | drom | Hm. Apparently this planet I'm playing around with the moment has a temperature of 72 degress |
| 14:25.17 | Hachiman | Which she refused to do because she is a cunt |
| 14:25.20 | Technobliterator | Honestly, I really love all the characters except Jack |
| 14:25.21 | drom | Greenhouse effect gives 132 degress |
| 14:25.30 | Technobliterator | I hate Jack |
| 14:25.39 | Im_not_a_robot | If the avg speed is greater than that critical value, then a lot more of half will be gone http://ircamera.as.arizona.edu/astr_250/images/esc_vel.gif |
| 14:25.42 | Hachiman | I don't like Jack or Miranda |
| 14:25.48 | Imperios | Same here |
| 14:25.49 | Imperios | Like |
| 14:25.52 | Technobliterator | I like Miranda, she's cool |
| 14:25.52 | Imperios | Jack is better than Miranda |
| 14:25.56 | Imperios | But still not a fan |
| 14:26.03 | Hachiman | Jack for obvious reasons and Miranda because she is a Mary Sue |
| 14:26.05 | Monet | Im)not_a_robot: Okay then. Well bearing that in mind the escape velocity of Alcanti is roughly 11800 m/s. |
| 14:26.09 | AdmiralPanda_ | I've never been able to take Miranda seriously, because while she's supposedly engineered to be perfect, she's ugly as fuck |
| 14:26.12 | Imperios | TBH I am not a fan of ME2's gritty style in general |
| 14:26.17 | AdmiralPanda_ | and the fact that she's literally a mary sue |
| 14:26.19 | OluapPlayer | Miranda aka Potato Head |
| 14:26.23 | Technobliterator | Miranda is not a Mary Sue, though |
| 14:26.28 | Hachiman | To me Miranda looks like Michael Jackson post-whitification |
| 14:26.35 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 14:26.36 | AdmiralPanda_ | Technobliterator: Even in-universe she is |
| 14:26.39 | Technobliterator | Despite being engineered to be one, she still has human faults |
| 14:26.46 | Imperios | Hachiman: Miranda is actually Jacob from the future |
| 14:26.56 | OluapPlayer | Oh god |
| 14:26.56 | Technobliterator | The whole point was that she was designed to be perfect, then is not perfect |
| 14:26.59 | Hachiman | "MUH DAD" "MUH PERFECTION" "MUH SISTER" |
| 14:27.04 | Hachiman | That is the extent of her faults |
| 14:27.10 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 14:27.12 | Hachiman | They're not even faults with her, just her backstory |
| 14:27.25 | Imperios | *FANSERVICE* *FANSERVICE* *FANSERVICE* |
| 14:27.25 | Monet | She may have an engineered mind and body, but she doesn't have the kind of leadership Shepard radiates fro mhis body. |
| 14:27.31 | Technobliterator | And an inferiority complex |
| 14:27.34 | Imperios | That's my personal complaint about her |
| 14:27.38 | Hachiman | Monet: Neither does anyone else |
| 14:27.44 | Hachiman | Which is why Shepard is leader |
| 14:27.45 | Imperios | She's not relateable |
| 14:27.51 | Monet | Hachiman: That's what stops her form being a sue IMO. |
| 14:28.07 | Technobliterator | Either way, I don't think she's that great, just likeable |
| 14:28.15 | Technobliterator | More likeable than Jack |
| 14:28.24 | Technobliterator | Jack is such a bitch |
| 14:28.26 | OluapPlayer | Jack was a cock in 2, but she got better in 3 |
| 14:28.26 | Imperios | Jack is... alright |
| 14:28.34 | Imperios | She was kind of funny in 3 |
| 14:28.35 | Hachiman | Jack is an easy target though, you should not be praised for being more likeable than Jack |
| 14:28.38 | AdmiralPanda_ | Jack in 3 I liked |
| 14:28.43 | Technobliterator | I've heard she was better in 3 |
| 14:28.52 | Technobliterator | I do not see how she is supposed to be likeable |
| 14:28.52 | Monet | I thikn part of my liking for her is her VA played a key character in Chuck, which I got into watching before I playeed Mass Effect. |
| 14:29.02 | OluapPlayer | She became a biotic teacher |
| 14:29.07 | Technobliterator | The whole, "oh she has no clothes on", is just stupid fanservice |
| 14:29.17 | Technobliterator | but has literally no reason to exist |
| 14:29.35 | Technobliterator | Even Miranda's is some proof of how she was designed to be like that, Jack's is pointless |
| 14:29.35 | Hachiman | And Miranda's perfect ass and tits are not fanservice |
| 14:29.47 | AdmiralPanda_ | her tattoos are her clothes- I'm not saying that to justify the fan service, I'm saying that because it's actually a serious cultural thing in a lot of the world |
| 14:30.02 | Imperios | Wouldn't call Jack's appearance fanservice |
| 14:30.09 | Imperios | She's ugly |
| 14:30.14 | Hachiman | I would not consider Jack fanservice |
| 14:30.16 | Technobliterator | Jack is not remotely likeable, either |
| 14:30.19 | Imperios | Ya |
| 14:30.20 | AdmiralPanda_ | I've got a maori friend who takes literally any excuse he can to not wear a shirt because he's practically covered in tattoos |
| 14:30.23 | Monet | Imperios: It is if you have a love for ink. |
| 14:30.27 | Imperios | Nnnnope |
| 14:30.29 | Im_not_a_robot | The factors we have to build in are not just greenhouse heating, but also solar winds from the early star, impact induced releases of voletiles from bombardment and so on |
| 14:30.32 | Hachiman | She is supposed to look like a lesbian prison bitch |
| 14:30.39 | Imperios | POP |
| 14:30.43 | Imperios | SQUISH |
| 14:30.44 | Imperios | UH-UH |
| 14:30.44 | OluapPlayer | Jack is fanservice for people who like flat-chested girls I guess |
| 14:30.45 | Imperios | CICERO |
| 14:30.46 | Imperios | LIPSHITZ |
| 14:31.04 | AdmiralPanda_ | as to her likeability, tbh I find appeal in her utter un-likeability |
| 14:31.15 | Imperios | That's kinda her thing in 3 |
| 14:31.15 | Technobliterator | I don't |
| 14:31.27 | Hachiman | Zaeed was a criminal character who was done much better than Jack |
| 14:31.27 | Imperios | She's so much of a psycho that it is mocked by the game itself |
| 14:31.30 | Monet | She doesn't care what people think of her. |
| 14:31.31 | Imperios | "I WILL DESTROY YOU" |
| 14:31.41 | AdmiralPanda_ | might just be me, but I find the fact that she's a prick a refreshing switch from the usual |
| 14:31.41 | Technobliterator | I think she is a pointless character and I never do her loyalty mission |
| 14:31.43 | Technobliterator | 8D |
| 14:31.53 | Technobliterator | I do everyones' but her |
| 14:31.54 | drom | Monet: It is really taking its toll on my GPU: http://i.imgur.com/BxR011U.png |
| 14:31.59 | Hachiman | I still do her loyalty mission because she is useful |
| 14:32.04 | Technobliterator | She is not |
| 14:32.05 | Ghelae | Monet, Im_not_a_robot: Helium and hydrogen gas are very close to that critical velocity then, while neon is about one-third as fast. |
| 14:32.06 | Monet | I'll be honest though I did enjoy hearing her criminal record...like crashign a space station into a moon. |
| 14:32.10 | OluapPlayer | That's a bit childish |
| 14:32.17 | Technobliterator | Anything she can do can be outdone by Samara |
| 14:32.33 | Ghelae | So the problem with neon is mainly a matter of planetary formation, which isn't such a big problem. |
| 14:32.54 | Technobliterator | I'm pretty sure even Miranda can be as good of a biotic |
| 14:33.01 | Imperios | Don't forget Jacob |
| 14:33.01 | Imperios | Call me a heretic but I actually like Jacob |
| 14:33.07 | Technobliterator | I like Jacob |
| 14:33.07 | Imperios | I will romance him the day I replay ME |
| 14:33.08 | OluapPlayer | So do I |
| 14:33.10 | Hachiman | Oh I like Jacob as well |
| 14:33.13 | Technobliterator | Jacob is a legend |
| 14:33.20 | OluapPlayer | Romancing Jacob is not a good idea |
| 14:33.21 | Technobliterator | The only problem is he is an underused character |
| 14:33.24 | Monet | I missed him in 3. |
| 14:33.24 | OluapPlayer | He cheats on you in 3 |
| 14:33.30 | Imperios | I know he will cheat on me |
| 14:33.34 | Hachiman | Garrus is best bf |
| 14:33.38 | Imperios | Can I kill him somehow in 3 though? |
| 14:33.39 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 14:33.54 | OluapPlayer | If you don't do his loyalty mission, he dies I think |
| 14:33.54 | Hachiman | I would let Garrus calibrate me as much as he likes |
| 14:33.55 | Technobliterator | I think Thane is the better character, though |
| 14:34.05 | Imperios | That's actually what I will do in my next playthrough |
| 14:34.09 | Hachiman | Eh I find Thane meh |
| 14:34.15 | Imperios | Kill all of my boyfriends after sleeping with them |
| 14:34.17 | Technobliterator | Really? : | |
| 14:34.23 | Imperios | Thane is fanservice |
| 14:34.24 | Technobliterator | He has the best story of any of them |
| 14:34.31 | OluapPlayer | Dear god, people have different opinions |
| 14:34.32 | Imperios | Except for girls |
| 14:34.33 | Imperios | I think |
| 14:34.42 | Imperios | What is fanservice for girls called? |
| 14:34.42 | Technobliterator | People have wrong opinions |
| 14:34.43 | Technobliterator | 8D |
| 14:34.44 | Imperios | Manservice? |
| 14:34.50 | OluapPlayer | Still fanservice |
| 14:34.50 | Hachiman | He's a prick who tries to go after you even if you are in a romance |
| 14:34.56 | Imperios | He's literally male Samara |
| 14:35.00 | OluapPlayer | I suggest you never speak like that to me again |
| 14:35.33 | Monet | Its the Internet people! Different opinions exist. |
| 14:35.34 | Imperios | Alien, kinda heartless but with an emotional, professional murderer, giant cleavage |
| 14:35.43 | Technobliterator | I thought it was established that everything I say is overexaggerated already |
| 14:35.47 | Imperios | Come to think about it |
| 14:35.52 | Hachiman | Yes but that does not make it any less irritating |
| 14:35.53 | Imperios | Why does Samara's armour have a cleavage |
| 14:36.03 | Monet | Imperios: Because Asari |
| 14:36.31 | Hachiman | It is not really armour |
| 14:36.54 | Hachiman | I would say it is more ceremonial |
| 14:37.01 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/ch5uQ9G.png |
| 14:37.12 | OluapPlayer | Speak like a normal individual of society then |
| 14:37.15 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.24 | Imperios | Power of distraction |
| 14:37.28 | Hachiman | hur |
| 14:37.39 | Monet | drom: I agree |
| 14:37.51 | Imperios | Now I wonder whom to romance in 3 |
| 14:37.55 | Hachiman | Garrus |
| 14:38.25 | Technobliterator | I don't do the romancing sidequest |
| 14:38.29 | Technobliterator | it's pointless |
| 14:38.45 | Hachiman | "OH I LOVE THANE" "Romancing sidequest is pointless" |
| 14:38.48 | Im_not_a_robot | drom: The glitch-planet |
| 14:38.49 | Hachiman | Make up your mind |
| 14:38.55 | drom | Eh I guess I'll just put the atomsphere aside. |
| 14:38.57 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 14:38.58 | Imperios | Techno the Shepard-Nun |
| 14:39.12 | Technobliterator | You can like a character without wanting to romance them |
| 14:39.18 | drom | the girl was the man all time along |
| 14:39.22 | OluapPlayer | When in doubt, romance best girl |
| 14:39.25 | Technobliterator | This is a possible thing that can happen |
| 14:39.37 | Imperios | I can't romance Tali if I'm female hur |
| 14:39.39 | Imperios | Unfortunately |
| 14:39.54 | Hachiman | I would only ever play ManShep for Tali and even then there is too much awful stuff about ManShep to convince me |
| 14:40.18 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8ea387d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.163.135.209) |
| 14:40.18 | Monet | Thane has space bronchitis do you want ot catch space bronchitis? |
| 14:40.18 | Hachiman | FemShep is just so much better |
| 14:40.18 | Technobliterator | What is even the difference other than romance options |
| 14:40.25 | Hachiman | Better voice-acting and interactions for one |
| 14:40.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
| 14:40.35 | Hachiman | Or rather different interactions |
| 14:40.37 | Monet | Techno: They develop feelings for you. |
| 14:40.47 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 14:41.07 | Ghelae | ~give DrodoEmpire a cookie |
| 14:41.11 | infobot | ACTION gives DrodoEmpire a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 14:41.11 | Hachiman | Plus you can actually make FemShep not ugly unlike ManShep |
| 14:41.15 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 14:41.38 | Imperios | I wonder what look should I give to my Femshep |
| 14:41.47 | Monet | You can cheat on people and it will affect character relations in 3 |
| 14:41.49 | OluapPlayer | Go default or go home |
| 14:42.03 | Imperios | I am not a fan of Dutch models |
| 14:42.05 | Imperios | No offense to dino |
| 14:42.15 | Technobliterator | I always go default |
| 14:42.37 | Hachiman | Yeah I tend to go default FemShep, that or I add minor modifications |
| 14:42.39 | Monet | u boring |
| 14:43.06 | drom | Hachiman "minor modifications" |
| 14:43.14 | Imperios | http://famousdude.com/images/mark-vanderloo-08.jpg I mean this guy |
| 14:43.18 | Imperios | This Dutch guy |
| 14:43.18 | drom | Yeeah, "mior" |
| 14:43.22 | drom | minor* even |
| 14:43.39 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 14:44.09 | Technobliterator | There's one good thing about FemShep |
| 14:44.19 | Technobliterator | If you pick that in ME2, then Ashley died |
| 14:44.22 | Technobliterator | Which is good |
| 14:44.32 | Imperios | Ashley is <# |
| 14:44.33 | Imperios | <3 |
| 14:44.35 | Monet | Imperioshttp://cdn2.gamefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/MassEffect3Ugly.jpg Ugly Shepard is best Shepard |
| 14:44.35 | Imperios | <3333 |
| 14:44.40 | Hachiman | Ashley is a cunt hur |
| 14:44.46 | Technobliterator | Ashley is insufferable |
| 14:45.02 | Technobliterator | I think it's between her and Jack for literally the worst |
| 14:45.10 | Hachiman | Except Jack gets better |
| 14:45.13 | Imperios | Monet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxhBC7dsUBA Nothing beats this |
| 14:45.14 | Hachiman | Ashely does not |
| 14:45.21 | OluapPlayer | fuck aliens lmao fuck cerberus lmao |
| 14:45.23 | Technobliterator | Mhm. But Jack starts worse |
| 14:45.24 | OluapPlayer | That's Ashleyt |
| 14:45.29 | Technobliterator | Yuuup |
| 14:45.49 | Monet | I thought Askey was being rational |
| 14:45.59 | Hachiman | She is a racist |
| 14:46.05 | Technobliterator | Any racism is not rational |
| 14:46.14 | Monet | Ashley doesn't hate aliens. She was just antsy about aliens being on a super-top-secret prototype Alliance Frigate. |
| 14:46.25 | Hachiman | Yes, because she hates aliens |
| 14:46.49 | Technobliterator | And whining so much about how Shepard is with Cerberus when he is fighting the Reapers? |
| 14:46.51 | Monet | I thought it was because she was na Alliance Patriot. |
| 14:46.52 | Technobliterator | Ugh |
| 14:47.03 | OluapPlayer | That's a problem both her and Kaiden have |
| 14:47.05 | Imperios | She's like a space jingoist or something |
| 14:47.07 | Technobliterator | Well, I hate patriotism, so this does not make things better |
| 14:47.10 | Technobliterator | Well, yeah |
| 14:47.10 | Monet | To be fair on her she only knows Cerberus to be terrorists. |
| 14:47.13 | Hachiman | The fact she is also aligned against Cerberus despite her own humanocentric beliefs is also both dumb and hypocritical |
| 14:47.15 | Imperios | 'LIYANS |
| 14:47.16 | Technobliterator | But I find Kaiden more tolerable |
| 14:47.36 | OluapPlayer | Kaiden is like neutral, Ashley has negatives |
| 14:47.42 | OluapPlayer | Therefore Ashley always dies when I play |
| 14:48.19 | Hachiman | Also Wrex is more tragic than Thane hur |
| 14:48.27 | OluapPlayer | Wrex is not tragic |
| 14:48.36 | Hachiman | The krogans in general are tragic |
| 14:48.43 | AdmiralPanda_ | tbh, the difference between Ash and Cerberus is the difference between pragmatism and extremism |
| 14:48.44 | OluapPlayer | But Wrex is not tragic as an individual |
| 14:48.47 | Technobliterator | Thane is definitely better than Wrex, but yes, the genophage story |
| 14:48.47 | OluapPlayer | He's a badass warrior |
| 14:48.54 | Technobliterator | Oh, Mordin |
| 14:48.56 | OluapPlayer | That's like your opinion sis |
| 14:48.57 | Technobliterator | ;____; |
| 14:49.04 | OluapPlayer | I find Wrex miles more entertaining than Thane |
| 14:49.08 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 14:49.13 | Hachiman | The krogans are great characters |
| 14:49.13 | *** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@24.114.71.39) |
| 14:49.15 | Technobliterator | Entertaining, I will agree |
| 14:49.23 | Hachiman | Thane is just edgy |
| 14:49.35 | Monet | Okay reading up Ashley's opinion on Turians is sort-of justified: Her Grandfather was a member of the Shanxi. |
| 14:49.37 | Technobliterator | Nope |
| 14:49.46 | AdmiralPanda_ | anyway, I'ma avoid the fan-wank for a while, my favourite characters are Tali because I find the quarians as a whole cool, and Jack because she's a rebel prick and I find that refreshing |
| 14:49.49 | Monet | Shangxi garrison* |
| 14:49.56 | OluapPlayer | Tali is a cute |
| 14:50.04 | Hachiman | Tali has dog legs :p |
| 14:50.09 | Technobliterator | I am indifferent regarding Tali |
| 14:50.11 | OluapPlayer | Perfect for hugging |
| 14:50.14 | Hachiman | ayy |
| 14:50.18 | OluapPlayer | So does Garrus u dunce |
| 14:50.23 | Hachiman | Yeah but |
| 14:50.28 | Hachiman | Alright fair point hur |
| 14:50.39 | drom | Turians and Quarians does |
| 14:50.52 | Technobliterator | Am I remembering wrong or was ME3's cast really unremarkable? |
| 14:51.04 | Hachiman | ME3's cast was small but I find them memorable |
| 14:51.05 | OluapPlayer | You're wrong |
| 14:51.28 | Technobliterator | I literally remember no character but EDI |
| 14:51.35 | Imperios | Traynor |
| 14:51.41 | OluapPlayer | You just dislike the game then |
| 14:51.41 | Imperios | COMMUNDAH |
| 14:51.43 | Technobliterator | Who? |
| 14:51.47 | OluapPlayer | Garrus, Tali, Liara, JAVIK |
| 14:51.56 | Monet | ALso I <3 Ashley because she quotes Ulysses. |
| 14:52.03 | Imperios | Samantha is only matched by Tali in cuteness |
| 14:52.09 | Technobliterator | The former three I didn't count because they were ME1 characters, the latter was DLC |
| 14:52.15 | Imperios | Also chess |
| 14:52.15 | Technobliterator | who I didn't count because DLC |
| 14:52.21 | OluapPlayer | Your loss |
| 14:52.22 | Hachiman | EDI is not an ME3 character |
| 14:52.38 | Technobliterator | She is an ME3 squad member |
| 14:52.40 | OluapPlayer | Javik is awesome |
| 14:52.46 | OluapPlayer | Introduced in ME2 |
| 14:52.51 | Technobliterator | I agree, but he was DLC |
| 14:52.58 | OluapPlayer | Who gives a shit |
| 14:53.04 | OluapPlayer | Still part of the game |
| 14:53.40 | Technobliterator | Part of the game in every sense except for some lock that they lazily coded in to force DLC |
| 14:53.50 | OluapPlayer | Not my problem |
| 14:53.51 | Technobliterator | That's something EA imposed on them, I bet |
| 14:54.13 | Technobliterator | Either way, ME3's new characters bar Javik, I found unremarkable |
| 14:54.36 | Monet | I wasn't entirely keen on Vega. |
| 14:54.43 | Hachiman | I find Vega cool hur |
| 14:54.51 | Technobliterator | I don't even remember Vega |
| 14:55.04 | OluapPlayer | Vega is like Kaidan or Jacob to me |
| 14:55.13 | OluapPlayer | I like him but I don't find him spectacular |
| 14:55.18 | Hachiman | He's a good guy to have banter with and I like the fact he tries to keep his relationship with Shepard professional in the Citadel DLC unless you persist |
| 14:55.20 | Monet | I found him stubbourn |
| 14:55.30 | OluapPlayer | Oh he is stubborn |
| 14:55.52 | OluapPlayer | A bit too rebellious too |
| 14:55.53 | Monet | Shepard announces Anderson ordered the Normandy to leave Earth -> his repsonse is "wtf seriously?" |
| 14:56.24 | Technobliterator | I hated the alliance, and the Council |
| 14:56.46 | Hachiman | So you hate a majority of the games then |
| 14:57.04 | Technobliterator | Honestly, I hate Cerberus as well, but I find the Illusive Man a very well written character |
| 14:57.14 | Technobliterator | Kai Leng, not so much |
| 14:57.18 | OluapPlayer | If you hate the Council I'm surprised you make fiction with Borealis |
| 14:57.22 | Monet | Kai Leng is Sollow. |
| 14:57.22 | Hachiman | Nobody likes Kai Leng |
| 14:57.31 | OluapPlayer | NO ONE likes Kai Leng, he's the worst character in the franchise |
| 14:57.42 | Technobliterator | I like the idea of the Council |
| 14:57.58 | Monet | Kai Leng exists to eb a total asswipe so that killing him is the greatest feeling in the whole damn world. |
| 14:58.02 | Technobliterator | I do not like the "We have dismissed that claim" Council |
| 14:58.11 | Monet | THat was only one of them |
| 14:58.30 | Technobliterator | They spent so many years convincing themselves the Reapers didn't exists |
| 14:58.36 | Monet | And to be fair on the guy when the Reapers *did* attack he asked you to go to Palavven. |
| 14:58.42 | Technobliterator | I didn't feel the slightest bit of sympathy when the Reapers did attack |
| 14:59.01 | OluapPlayer | The Citadel DLC reveals they believed the Reapers were coming from the beginning |
| 14:59.12 | OluapPlayer | Why they chose to keep it hidden I'm not sure, probably to stop a mass panic |
| 14:59.20 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 14:59.25 | Technobliterator | That does not make them any more endearing to me |
| 14:59.28 | Monet | Very likely yes |
| 14:59.42 | OluapPlayer | I'm talking facts, whether you like them or not doesn't concern me |
| 15:00.11 | Monet | Although the Turian was written to be critical of Shepard you no matter what the PC did. |
| 15:00.33 | Hachiman | Honestly I'd have preferred if Captain Kirrahe replaced Thane as a companion given I find him more personable and entertaining |
| 15:00.58 | Technobliterator | If you literally lie to everyone about the existence of an army of robots that can destroy the galaxy and do nothing to stop abducting colonies while Cerberus does, then honestly, that's a pathetic council |
| 15:01.00 | Hachiman | Not as tragic by any means but Kirrahe is <3 |
| 15:01.20 | OluapPlayer | What are they gonna do? Throw rocks at them? |
| 15:01.32 | Technobliterator | Tell everyone to watch out? |
| 15:01.41 | Hachiman | That would only cause mass panic |
| 15:01.44 | Technobliterator | So? |
| 15:01.47 | Monet | Technobliterator: That sort of news report would simply cause mass panic and a spike in suicides. |
| 15:01.57 | OluapPlayer | "Why is mass panic bad" |
| 15:01.58 | OluapPlayer | Holy shit |
| 15:02.07 | Technobliterator | Would you rather someone told you that we were about to be invaded by aliens, or would you rather we were ready for them? |
| 15:02.16 | Hachiman | But they cannot be ready for them |
| 15:02.24 | Hachiman | They literally cannot fight Reapers in ME2 |
| 15:02.31 | Imperios | I think Kirrahe's speech in ME1 was kind of odd |
| 15:02.37 | Imperios | It was more weird than inspiring |
| 15:02.53 | Monet | Imperios: Al lthat "we held the line" stuff? |
| 15:02.54 | OluapPlayer | It was perfectly clear |
| 15:03.04 | Imperios | Yes but it was kind of hammy |
| 15:03.11 | OluapPlayer | Like that's a problem |
| 15:03.36 | Monet | Imperios: Funnily enough Mordin admits he once served under Kirrahe. He knew of Kirrahe's speeches and confessted that really everyoen jsut wanted to get the job done and go home. |
| 15:04.59 | Hachiman | Banter between Mordin and Kirrahe would have been funny hur |
| 15:05.01 | Monet | Technobliterator: Which would make you more comfortable? Obliviousness or news that there is an annihilation force coming and we can do diddly-squat against them despite our best efforts? |
| 15:05.23 | Technobliterator | Comfort? Seriously? |
| 15:05.40 | Technobliterator | I'd rather be told the truth than be lied to for "comfort", thank you very much |
| 15:05.53 | Monet | Okay fair enough |
| 15:06.04 | OluapPlayer | That's you, and you're not N billion aliens |
| 15:06.10 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: In the interests of societal stability the government would lie. Its not perhaps "right" but it would keep the society together and the government in power. |
| 15:06.28 | Technobliterator | Then the government are stupid |
| 15:06.45 | DrodoEmpire | That goes for *any* great threat to *any* government at any time in human history. |
| 15:06.55 | Hachiman | I do not think you understand that if the Citadel publicized the threat of the Reapers, there would be mass panic and hysteria which would lead to social upheavals and anarchy which would do more harm than good |
| 15:07.01 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^^^^^^^ |
| 15:07.02 | Technobliterator | That's what happened during World War II |
| 15:07.24 | DrodoEmpire | Do you think the Polish Kingdom sent out heralds to every town and village proclaiming the Mongols were coming? |
| 15:07.27 | DrodoEmpire | Of course not. |
| 15:07.31 | Technobliterator | Chamberlain tells us it's all fine, appeasement is working! We're not going to go to war with Hitler! |
| 15:07.41 | Technobliterator | Aaaaaaand we went to war unprepared because he was a moron. |
| 15:08.05 | Monet | Actually we went in better-prepared that in 1938. |
| 15:08.18 | Hachiman | But even if the Council did inform the public of the Reapers, they *still* could not have prepared to fight them |
| 15:08.19 | Monet | than* |
| 15:08.41 | DrodoEmpire | They'd sooner be able to prepare their government the best they were able and only break the news when they were at their doorstep. |
| 15:08.58 | Monet | DrodoEMpire: Which is what Cahmberlain did. |
| 15:09.02 | Monet | Chamberlain* |
| 15:09.03 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 15:09.16 | Hachiman | Like you literally missed the point that the Reapers, until ME3, were almost godlike in their capacity and defeating only *one* Reaper required the entirety of the Council's fleet to do |
| 15:09.29 | Technobliterator | No, there is no point to miss |
| 15:09.41 | Technobliterator | If they can prepare to fight the Reapers in ME3, they can prepare to fight them in ME2 |
| 15:09.46 | Hachiman | But that's wrong |
| 15:10.00 | Technobliterator | Or they can at least investigate human colonies going missing |
| 15:10.07 | OluapPlayer | The Reapers were only defeated because of the Cricible, which did not exist until ME3 |
| 15:10.11 | OluapPlayer | Crucible even |
| 15:10.25 | DrodoEmpire | The thing is Tech that you think that breaking the news to the people early would mean the people would immediately mean they'd organize and prepare. That isn't what would happen. They'd panic, and social order would break down to the point that there'd be no government to fight back by the time whatever threat has come by |
| 15:10.29 | Monet | WWII isn't the right analogy really because even the governments at the time knew that victory with Nazi Germany was a possibility. |
| 15:10.32 | Technobliterator | But the Reapers were not attacking until ME3 |
| 15:10.32 | OluapPlayer | Conventional warfare cannot stop the Reapers, that is bashed against your head through the whole game |
| 15:10.38 | DrodoEmpire | Again, I don't think its right, but still |
| 15:10.47 | Technobliterator | And you spend the whole game building up war assets |
| 15:10.48 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: A better analogy would be the Mongol Empire. |
| 15:10.57 | OluapPlayer | Which, by themselves, do nothing |
| 15:11.00 | AdmiralPanda_ | I really shouldn't come into this again, but there is a very specific reason the council didn't investigate the colonies: those colonies deliberately chose to leave the overview of the council |
| 15:11.16 | OluapPlayer | If you choose the Refusal ending, the Crucible doesn't fire and the Reapers destroy modern civilization |
| 15:11.17 | AdmiralPanda_ | like, it was literally part of the reason they were permitted to settle there |
| 15:11.19 | Technobliterator | They could, at the very least, look into the problem, instead of just lie to everyone |
| 15:11.43 | Monet | "not our concern" |
| 15:11.53 | OluapPlayer | They're an enemy which could only be stopped by a deus ex machina |
| 15:12.19 | Technobliterator | Mhm. The whole Crucible thing was garbage |
| 15:12.38 | OluapPlayer | The only purpose of the war assets is that too low on them and the Crucible will misfire, destroying Earth instead of the Reapers |
| 15:12.43 | Monet | Those colonies were not Systems Alliance. The Alliance didn't feel obligation towards protecting the colonies of the Terminus Systems because those colonies willingly went beyond the Alliance's policing zones. |
| 15:13.24 | Hachiman | Nonetheless, whether the Reapers are defeated or not, modern civilisation still pays a very heavy and major toll that, even with prior preparation, could not be prevented |
| 15:13.58 | Monet | Crowds are not rational. |
| 15:14.02 | Hachiman | Exactly |
| 15:14.13 | Monet | Crowds are ruled by emotion. |
| 15:14.24 | AdmiralPanda_ | "The person is wise, the people are foolish." < one of my favourite quotes |
| 15:15.00 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 15:15.06 | Hachiman | In fact if the Council / Alliance did publicise the disappearances of entire settlements then it is likely more colonies would have separated from overview and allowed the Reapers a much more significant edge |
| 15:15.33 | Hachiman | If not destroyed themselves |
| 15:15.38 | Ghelae | AdmiralPanda_: This discussion reminded me of a similar quote in Men in Black, which is of course on the actual topic of alien threats to humanity. |
| 15:16.40 | Monet | If the Council amditted that fighting the Reapers was a futile effort then all they're going ot get is a mass of angry aliens demanding why nothing can be done. |
| 15:16.45 | Technobliterator | Boy, would I be livid if I found out something like Men in Black was real :p |
| 15:17.35 | Monet | They're also going ot get a number of aliens who might go "fuck it, gonna die anyway" and look to join the Reapers. |
| 15:17.35 | *** join/#sporewiki dino82_ (52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239) |
| 15:17.48 | Technobliterator | hi dino |
| 15:17.49 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 15:17.55 | Monet | Hello |
| 15:18.41 | Monet | The only people who benefit from the Council coming clean with the Reapers are the Reapers themselves and the Citadel council's detractors. |
| 15:19.02 | Monet | As well as any organised crime ring who might be able to profit off the hysteria. |
| 15:19.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 15:19.43 | Technobliterator | I think it would be nice if someone who is investigating into the Reapers could at least have the Council tell them that they are aware of it but keep it a secret, but even then I wouldn't like it |
| 15:20.11 | Hachiman | You are not supposed to like it |
| 15:20.14 | Technobliterator | How they handle it just annoys me |
| 15:20.19 | Hachiman | ME is not intended to be idealistic |
| 15:21.27 | Technobliterator | I didn't like the Council, no |
| 15:21.35 | dino82_ | hello |
| 15:21.42 | dino82_ | how is allz doing? |
| 15:21.43 | Monet | I believe that the open dismissals we get are in public places - the Human embassy and the Citadel Tower. Places that are monitored by security cameras and possibly snooping papperazzi. |
| 15:21.48 | Technobliterator | I enjoyed playing the game, and I enjoyed the narrative |
| 15:22.02 | Im_not_a_robot | drom: http://imgur.com/gallery/BmvqYl0 |
| 15:22.12 | Technobliterator | But the narrative is meant to throw things at you that you won't like |
| 15:22.22 | Technobliterator | And did so perfectly until the Crucible |
| 15:23.01 | Hachiman | I was not even bothered by the existence of the Crucible; I was more bothered by the entity of the Crucible and the circumstances of the ending |
| 15:23.07 | Hachiman | The Crucible as a plot device is fine |
| 15:23.10 | Im_not_a_robot | drom, Hachi: http://imgur.com/gallery/dQmbg |
| 15:23.32 | Technobliterator | The Crucible as a plot device made sense, as a weapon that was just added to by every new generation |
| 15:23.33 | drom | Im_not_a_robot: That's the most metal thing I've ever heard |
| 15:23.52 | Technobliterator | Of course, they had to ruin that, but that's EA for you |
| 15:23.59 | Imperios | The revelation that the crucible was just an energy source was pretty stupid |
| 15:24.08 | OluapPlayer | The Crucible would have been more bearable if it had been hinted at since the first game, but that's impossible since there was a change of writers between 2 and 3 |
| 15:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | dino: I'm fine, thanks |
| 15:24.21 | Technobliterator | Well, yeah |
| 15:24.36 | Technobliterator | I'm hoping they fix this come ME:Andromeda |
| 15:24.37 | drom | Demn hips: http://i.imgur.com/df0WGsE.jpg |
| 15:24.45 | Monet | Technobliterator: From what I've heard, ME3's ending is why you don't have a single writer who ignores constructive feedback. |
| 15:24.47 | Technobliterator | but I hope we don't fight the Reapers again |
| 15:25.13 | Hachiman | You won't |
| 15:25.23 | Technobliterator | This is good |
| 15:25.36 | Hachiman | I've read ME:A spoilers and the circumstances of the game are entirely separated from ME3 |
| 15:25.49 | Hachiman | Well, almost |
| 15:25.57 | Technobliterator | All they have said is that it has nothing to do with Shepard's story |
| 15:26.01 | OluapPlayer | Possible spoilers for a game not coming out until next year |
| 15:26.03 | Monet | I believe its an unwritten rule that during a story brainstorm you throw away the first idea. Every time. |
| 15:26.09 | OluapPlayer | Don't just bgelieve everything you read at Reddit |
| 15:26.17 | Technobliterator | It's coming out next year? .__. |
| 15:26.23 | dino82_ | :d |
| 15:26.39 | Technobliterator | Welp, here's hoping this isn't another EA rush |
| 15:27.02 | Hachiman | Given how long ME:A has been planned I doubt it'll be rushed |
| 15:27.39 | drom | Hachiman: Ya Granpa is on it again: http://i.imgur.com/KeHwKDL.jpg |
| 15:27.41 | Technobliterator | I'm too used to games taking ages to come out by now |
| 15:28.08 | Technobliterator | I can't come to terms with the fact that MGSV is coming out so soon |
| 15:28.43 | Monet | Modern AAA games are quite similar to films - hude budgets, huge special effects, and an automatic dissapointment if they didn't take more than 2 1/2 years to make. |
| 15:30.00 | Hachiman | Honestly I do not think the entirety of the problem is with development and publishing studios |
| 15:30.12 | Hachiman | I feel the gaming community as a whole has become far more entitled |
| 15:30.30 | Monet | I'm going to agree there |
| 15:30.38 | Technobliterator | I don't |
| 15:30.47 | Technobliterator | I just think publishers are getting worse |
| 15:30.56 | Hachiman | See what I mean hur |
| 15:31.01 | Technobliterator | also I hate Konami and hope they tank after MGSV |
| 15:31.18 | Technobliterator | and all go bankrupt and end up homeless on the streets starving |
| 15:31.24 | Technobliterator | after what they did to their employees |
| 15:31.42 | OluapPlayer | What Konami has done is unforgivable |
| 15:31.53 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 15:31.57 | OluapPlayer | Reducing Castlevania to a fanservice pachinko machine |
| 15:32.05 | OluapPlayer | Just remembering it makes me angry |
| 15:32.09 | DrodoEmpire | Well I mean consumers sort-of have a right to be entitled. :p You're parting with your money for a product. |
| 15:32.09 | Monet | There are lots of people out there who don't have too high a standard. THere are others who will whine if the game they get isn't a masterpiece. Guess which group is most vocal on formus. |
| 15:32.10 | Technobliterator | I hate the fact that I'll have to buy MGSV from them |
| 15:32.11 | Technobliterator | grrrr |
| 15:32.19 | DrodoEmpire | They have every right to hold a high standard |
| 15:32.35 | Technobliterator | Okay, but you can just ignore fanboy whiners, because they're idiots |
| 15:32.50 | Technobliterator | I love lots of games that I don't think are perfect |
| 15:32.52 | Monet | But they're often the only ones the develoeprs hear from. |
| 15:33.02 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like its a charity put on by video game companies. :p |
| 15:33.08 | Technobliterator | I just went on a whole tirade about how I hate some of the stuff in ME |
| 15:33.12 | OluapPlayer | That's the developers' fault for not understanding how the world works |
| 15:33.38 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I think both sides migh tbe to blame. |
| 15:33.41 | Technobliterator | I stil consider ME2 to be one of the best games released, and one of the best of last console gen |
| 15:33.53 | Technobliterator | then again best of last console gen isn't saying much |
| 15:33.58 | Technobliterator | because last console gen was cancer |
| 15:34.02 | Monet | These whiners are the only ones giving feedback - which is what changes and (ideally) improves a produce. |
| 15:34.12 | Monet | product* |
| 15:34.18 | OluapPlayer | Whiner feedback is generally not constructivew |
| 15:34.23 | OluapPlayer | They just say "IT'S SHIT" |
| 15:34.28 | OluapPlayer | And expect it to be changed |
| 15:34.43 | AdmiralPanda_ | with very few exceptions, developers aren't the problem. There's a twofold issue of a whiny player base and publishers who don't understand how video game development works. |
| 15:35.15 | Technobliterator | EA seems to be getting less bad, but I'm not holding out hope |
| 15:35.23 | Technobliterator | Ubisoft is getting worse, Konami is getting worse |
| 15:35.37 | Hachiman | No, EA is still the same, it is just Konami is getting worse by comparison |
| 15:35.40 | OluapPlayer | EA is still the devil, it just got a few baddies |
| 15:35.45 | OluapPlayer | buddies* |
| 15:36.05 | Technobliterator | EA > Actvision, though |
| 15:36.06 | AdmiralPanda_ | the AAA industry as a whole is dying, ideally the result of this is publishers resuming their position as enablers of developers, rather than their masters and commanders |
| 15:36.06 | OluapPlayer | The main villain of the new Mirror's Edge game looks almost identical to the EA CEO |
| 15:36.09 | OluapPlayer | That humours me to this day |
| 15:36.12 | Imperios | I say it's time for a socialist revolution |
| 15:36.35 | Technobliterator | Really, other than SE and first party publishers, I don't really like any publishers right now |
| 15:36.36 | OluapPlayer | Go wrestle bears and drink vodka ruskie |
| 15:36.59 | Technobliterator | Indie publishers count too, of course |
| 15:37.45 | Hachiman | There will come a time though when there will be no such thing as Indie developers |
| 15:37.47 | Monet | Publishers handle the marketing side of game release |
| 15:37.57 | Hachiman | Indies and third parties are becoming more intertwined |
| 15:38.17 | AdmiralPanda_ | there will always be indies |
| 15:38.22 | Imperios | I am not a russkie u |
| 15:38.25 | drom | Keep in mind that publisher and distributor aren't the same thing |
| 15:38.25 | Technobliterator | Unless the platforms for releasing games changes drastically, I don't think that will happen, no |
| 15:38.53 | AdmiralPanda_ | Monet: Ideally they should, but as it stands currently the major publishers set the development cycle, which is utterly retarded |
| 15:39.16 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: Usually to coincide with their fiscal quarters. |
| 15:39.25 | AdmiralPanda_ | precisely |
| 15:39.28 | Technobliterator | Square Enix used to be the EA of Japan, but they've improved now so it's ok |
| 15:39.44 | AdmiralPanda_ | the real reason there's a CoD every year is because EA demands that there be one to meet the holiday demand |
| 15:39.57 | Technobliterator | Activision demands there to be one |
| 15:40.03 | Technobliterator | Activision are cancer |
| 15:40.07 | OluapPlayer | Reminds me of Sonic 06 |
| 15:40.13 | AdmiralPanda_ | ok can you stop calling things cancer? |
| 15:40.15 | Technobliterator | oh, Sega |
| 15:40.26 | OluapPlayer | Rushed to be released at the holiday, ended up one of the worst games of all time |
| 15:40.39 | Technobliterator | I don't recall Sega doing anything too bad other than making garbage Sonic games no one cared for |
| 15:40.45 | drom | AdmiralPanda_: In that case then, I'll just call them crayfish |
| 15:41.08 | drom | In the Swedish language, crayfish is an old slang term for cancer |
| 15:41.13 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Dunno if its more Sega's or Creative Assembly's fault but Rome II Total War sucked shit... :p |
| 15:41.15 | Monet | AdmiralPanda_: I agree. Activision's a company. They're a cancerous to society as bankers. |
| 15:41.46 | OluapPlayer | The game would still be shit even if wasn't rushed (it has humans kissing dead hedgehogs folks) but the release version ended up looking like an alpha build |
| 15:41.48 | Monet | They suck, but that's where peopel get their money and realise their deams. |
| 15:41.52 | AdmiralPanda_ | describing something as cancerous is one thing, actually calling them cancer is another thing entirely |
| 15:42.25 | Monet | Ahh right |
| 15:42.50 | AdmiralPanda_ | I agree, their development is indeed cancerous in nature, but actual cancer, as in the disease, is different. |
| 15:43.14 | Monet | Yeah being cancer implies that no one wants it and it lonly lives to cause pain and suffering |
| 15:43.34 | OluapPlayer | dats a gud description of hachi |
| 15:43.40 | AdmiralPanda_ | That and the fact that cancer is a serious matter and should not be used lightly. |
| 15:44.02 | Monet | Honestly, witohut game publishers we wouldn't have a triple-A market and the video game scene would be years behind. |
| 15:44.10 | OluapPlayer | Not everyone is as sensitive on the matter |
| 15:44.42 | AdmiralPanda_ | it's not a matter of sensitivity, it's a matter of recognising the severity of the matter |
| 15:45.10 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, its an offensive term. That's the point. :p |
| 15:45.12 | AdmiralPanda_ | I'm far from sensitive about the matter, I've accepted it a long time ago, but I know how serious it is |
| 15:45.19 | DrodoEmpire | Not that I necessarily agree, but still |
| 15:45.24 | DrodoEmpire | *agree with its use |
| 15:45.51 | OluapPlayer | Think of it as a synonym of "I don't like it", that's how most people use the term on the internet |
| 15:45.58 | OluapPlayer | It rarely has anything to do with the actual disease |
| 15:46.11 | AdmiralPanda_ | that's exactly what I have a problem with |
| 15:46.16 | Monet | What we're seeing then might be internet shorthand |
| 15:46.25 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes its internet shorthand |
| 15:46.30 | Hachiman | Retarded is a similar case |
| 15:46.31 | Imperios | I think of it in the term of "something that propagades uncontrollably and takes over everything good and worthwhile thanks to their numbers" |
| 15:46.32 | DrodoEmpire | That's the long and short of it |
| 15:46.37 | Technobliterator | It's like how most people say "retarded", but they never mean "mentally disabled" |
| 15:46.51 | AdmiralPanda_ | it's become so overused it's lost meaning- one of the most serious health issues facing humanity has become little more than internet slang for something they don't like, and it pisses me the hell off |
| 15:46.54 | Technobliterator | I personally don't say "retarded" anymore, though |
| 15:47.09 | OluapPlayer | This is very typical 4chan speech |
| 15:47.27 | Monet | You get people who type it and think "eh, same thing" and other people start getting similar ideas. |
| 15:47.39 | OluapPlayer | They love spouting cancerous, autistic, retarded, gay, but all of it culminates to "I don't agree with you so I'll add an insult to my sentence" |
| 15:47.42 | Monet | The Inception meme is another example. |
| 15:47.50 | Technobliterator | I don't feel the need to enforce political correctness unless someone is very sensitive regarding the subject |
| 15:47.54 | Imperios | Huh |
| 15:48.09 | OluapPlayer | Anonymity does this to people |
| 15:48.15 | AdmiralPanda_ | again, difference between political correctness and dealing with an actual serious issue |
| 15:48.22 | DrodoEmpire | Its boorish and immature yes but really its nothing to get too worked up about in my opinion |
| 15:48.35 | Technobliterator | Well, anonymity and justs being surrounded by other people who are equally offensive |
| 15:48.35 | Imperios | In Russia "cancer" as an insult is mostly confined to MOBAS |
| 15:48.37 | OluapPlayer | Anyway brb |
| 15:48.38 | Imperios | MOBAs |
| 15:48.52 | AdmiralPanda_ | fuck it, I've been in a bad mood all day |
| 15:48.54 | *** part/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda_ (7cb9c003@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.185.192.3) |
| 15:49.00 | Imperios | Pandas |
| 15:49.17 | Imperios | Wanna play Dota, Jo? |
| 15:49.29 | Technobliterator | Sorry, I'm not at home at the moment |
| 15:49.32 | Imperios | Right |
| 15:49.35 | Technobliterator | I could when I'm back, though |
| 15:49.38 | Imperios | We can do fiction with Mon then |
| 15:49.48 | Imperios | Or I could revise my Korean |
| 15:49.51 | Technobliterator | I might work on a page or two |
| 15:49.58 | Imperios | Or do Fog War stuff |
| 15:49.59 | Monet | Take Inception |
| 15:50.00 | Technobliterator | Sorry that I started this whole discussion |
| 15:50.00 | Imperios | Choices choices |
| 15:50.16 | Technobliterator | This is mostly my fault |
| 15:50.32 | Monet | In Oxford Inglish, "inception" is the act of beginning something. Thanks to CHristopher Nolan it more likely means "to put something in something into something else" |
| 15:50.55 | Monet | English* |
| 15:51.33 | Imperios | I think in Nolan's move it implied that rather than just putting an idea into someone's head, the protagonists had to make someone concieve the idea |
| 15:51.54 | Monet | Imperios: Spot on. |
| 15:53.21 | Monet | Come to think of it, Internet shorthand has the nasty habit of turning metaphors into nouns and verbs. |
| 15:54.03 | DrodoEmpire | Internet shorthand has the nasty habit of being unbearably stupid |
| 15:54.04 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 15:54.15 | Imperios | Speaking of the term "cancer" |
| 15:54.32 | Hachiman | In honesty I think people are being too sensitive and looking too deep into it |
| 15:54.38 | Imperios | Its use actually evolved in a very interesting way in Russia |
| 15:54.44 | Imperios | Interesting to me as a linguist at least |
| 15:55.15 | Monet | Panda's opinio might be from his medical background. |
| 15:55.40 | OluapPlayer | The Fog War is on hiatus |
| 15:55.42 | Hachiman | If you think "cancer" is a stupid term that should not be used by merit of it meaning something otherwise unrelated, stop using the word "shit" |
| 15:55.56 | OluapPlayer | I need Xho to lead the next section but he refuses to rp |
| 15:56.03 | OluapPlayer | So I can't continue it in any way |
| 15:56.07 | Imperios | Anyway here's what happened in Russia |
| 15:56.21 | Technobliterator | Which section? |
| 15:56.24 | Imperios | The Russian word for "cancer" is actually the same as the one for "crayfish" |
| 15:56.30 | OluapPlayer | The next one |
| 15:56.41 | Technobliterator | You could always do the sections afterwards to post them for when he gets back |
| 15:56.51 | Imperios | In the 2000s it as an insult was used solely as referring to the disease |
| 15:57.01 | OluapPlayer | I can't do that, this is the section where Telfinne gets descended |
| 15:57.03 | Imperios | While at the same time in WoW the term "crab" was commonly used |
| 15:57.13 | Technobliterator | ah, alright |
| 15:57.29 | Technobliterator | He'll probably come around |
| 15:57.41 | Imperios | Crab as in "has pincers for hands, cannot play" |
| 15:57.46 | OluapPlayer | It's not because he's away, it's because he refuses to rp |
| 15:57.57 | OluapPlayer | Because of that I actually can't do any fiction at all |
| 15:57.58 | Imperios | Then in the 2010s Dota players kinda united two terms together |
| 15:58.06 | Imperios | Now we call people "cancers" |
| 15:58.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Cyrannian (562d6746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.45.103.70) |
| 15:58.16 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
| 15:58.22 | Technobliterator | oh, I meant "come around" in a different context |
| 15:58.22 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 15:58.24 | Technobliterator | hi Cyr |
| 15:58.33 | Cyrannian | Is IRC weird for anyone else? |
| 15:58.39 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 15:58.41 | OluapPlayer | It's normal |
| 15:58.50 | Imperios | "You are a disgusting disease that breeds incessantly and kills all living things AND you have pincers for hands" |
| 15:58.54 | Hachiman | Funny because Cancer is represented by a crab in the Western Zodiac |
| 15:59.02 | Imperios | Cancer does mean crab/crayfish |
| 15:59.08 | Technobliterator | It's only for the web client |
| 15:59.19 | OluapPlayer | I can't continue the Fog War because I need Xho to lead, I can't continue my Borealis plots for the same reason, I have nothing else to do |
| 15:59.27 | Imperios | That's pretty much how we call everyone in Dota |
| 15:59.30 | Imperios | And that's what we are in Dota |
| 15:59.46 | Monet | Imperios: In Europe and the Americas, Cancer is one of the twelve zodiac figures. I recall that one of the names for the Twele Colonies was planned to be "Cancer"...until the disease was freshly discovered. |
| 16:00.06 | Imperios | We ARE the cancer of Dota 2 |
| 16:00.08 | Monet | This was back in 1978 |
| 16:00.10 | Technobliterator | Also, Imperios, download the Reborn client |
| 16:00.11 | Imperios | And we have pincers for hands |
| 16:00.16 | Technobliterator | Dota 2 custom maps are <3 |
| 16:00.23 | Technobliterator | and I don't have ridiculous lag in Reborn |
| 16:00.26 | Imperios | My videocard is blown up |
| 16:00.30 | Imperios | I do not think I can handle it |
| 16:00.30 | Monet | To alleviate the "too soon" vibe, "Cancer" was renamed to "Orion" |
| 16:00.38 | Technobliterator | Reborn should be easier on lower specs |
| 16:00.44 | Imperios | Ah |
| 16:01.45 | Technobliterator | oh boy |
| 16:01.54 | Technobliterator | I still haven't started the First Ottzello Galactic War |
| 16:02.05 | Technobliterator | ie, the war I was rewriting the Perils of Ottzello for in the first place |
| 16:02.06 | Technobliterator | >.< |
| 16:03.02 | Technobliterator | I'm wondering if the Grand Ottzel Order should stick around |
| 16:05.38 | Imperios | Will try it now |
| 16:05.51 | Im_not_a_robot | Monet: Cancer was discovered as soon as 1978? |
| 16:06.44 | Im_not_a_robot | Cyrannian: Yeah I hate that everyone's nick is orange-brown but the side panel nicks still have colours. Whats the point in that |
| 16:07.37 | Cyrannian | Don't like that either |
| 16:08.38 | drom | Ya all need a proper IRC client! |
| 16:09.01 | Im_not_a_robot | fuk off wit ur fancy wancy web cliunts |
| 16:09.53 | drom | >implying i'm using web client |
| 16:10.00 | drom | nigga, I'm using a desktop client |
| 16:10.50 | Monet | Im_not_a_robot: Earlier but I think there was a huge spike in publicity over the 20th century |
| 16:11.12 | Monet | So maybe not freshly discovered |
| 16:11.19 | Monet | More like "widely popularised" |
| 16:12.31 | Im_not_a_robot | I see because I recall back in the 1920s a physician noticed that throat cancer miracously healed in a patient because it got infected, leading him to realise infection activated the immune system which unfortunately doesn't happen enough |
| 16:13.34 | Monet | Cancer can emerge from the cell not being destroyed quickly enough |
| 16:14.20 | Technobliterator | okay, it's late, but |
| 16:14.25 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Durzhan giff quotes |
| 16:14.59 | Monet | But that's not to say that infection therapy is the ideal cure, there's a reason why radiotherapy is much mroe commonly used. |
| 16:15.17 | Technobliterator | test |
| 16:15.58 | Monet | And with advances in technology, radiotherapy is becoming increasingly mroe precise and less likely to cause other problems |
| 16:18.06 | Monet | Technobliterator: I could quote with Corteus maybe. Trying to think which of my characters would know him. |
| 16:18.15 | Im_not_a_robot | What happens is that the immune system doesn't recognise cancer cells (actually it does and eliminates them all the time, but this is the case of disease causing ones). But when infected, some immune cells are so violent they kill everything |
| 16:18.18 | Technobliterator | Sure |
| 16:18.33 | Technobliterator | I don't know if the DI would have been in Ottzello, but Durzhan has been around for 3 million years |
| 16:19.05 | Im_not_a_robot | Its not the infection that killed the cancer, but the immune system happened to wake up and identify the cancer as not normal |
| 16:19.05 | Monet | Technobliterator: We discussed the possibility the DI had colonised Ottzello before it was destroyed |
| 16:19.18 | Technobliterator | Yeah, that can still happen |
| 16:19.38 | Technobliterator | They could maybe show up in the First or Second Ottzello Wars |
| 16:19.50 | Monet | Ah! Maybe a Draconid praetor? |
| 16:20.03 | Technobliterator | Possibly :o |
| 16:20.08 | Im_not_a_robot | Some research today is based on trying to make the immune system identify cancer cells as a threat, and thast would be revolutionary. |
| 16:20.24 | Technobliterator | Im_not_a_robot, you're wormy, right? :p |
| 16:20.27 | Im_not_a_robot | yeah |
| 16:21.09 | Im_not_a_robot | My nick is based on webchats new captcha where you simply tick "Im not a robot". Surprised this nick wasn't taken already so I took it |
| 16:21.38 | Hachiman | Imperios: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11885351_1619709764944169_7724287084813464762_n.jpg?oh=e188733fd588caeb01ca56492c58f034&oe=566FB771 |
| 16:22.03 | Monet | Im_not_a_robot: It would be revolutionary. Certainly |
| 16:22.51 | Technobliterator | Not many people use the web client, in my experience |
| 16:22.59 | Technobliterator | Then again, I'm on tons of channels |
| 16:23.27 | Im_not_a_robot | People normally think of future cancer treatments involving tiny robots. But if you could get your natural biobots to do the same then that is just as good |
| 16:23.42 | Im_not_a_robot | and much cheaper/efficient |
| 16:24.17 | Monet | It sounds like there could be dangers to it |
| 16:24.24 | Im_not_a_robot | I'm just happy using freenode |
| 16:24.51 | Monet | One of the dangers of a sterile environment is eventually, the immune system has nothing to fight. And responds by attacking anything. |
| 16:24.51 | Im_not_a_robot | I did use Xchat for a while |
| 16:25.06 | Monet | TUrning on the body |
| 16:25.20 | Technobliterator | I thought xchat was Linux only |
| 16:25.21 | Technobliterator | huh |
| 16:26.02 | Monet | A healthy immune system is essentially too preoccupied fighting foreign pathogens to attack the body itsp rotecting. |
| 16:27.34 | Technobliterator | Im_not_a_robot, do you want to be in the First Ottzello Galactic War, briefly? |
| 16:27.45 | Im_not_a_robot | I agree, but if you could apply the immune system is a more directed way like making it tell what a cancer cell is (and it does most of the time) then that would be better than making it attack everything (which is probably harmful in the other ways, we often feel ill because it takes a lot of energy) |
| 16:27.49 | Technobliterator | Basically, the DCP should get involved in the war briefly, and then the war turns into the DCP vs Loron War |
| 16:28.09 | Im_not_a_robot | Jo: It could explain why the DCP were there |
| 16:28.12 | Technobliterator | ie, it stops being an Ottzello war because the Loron only care about fighting the DCP later |
| 16:28.14 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 16:28.47 | Technobliterator | dino82_, would the Rambo Nation have existed then? |
| 16:29.36 | dino82_ | @Jo: When??? The Rambo are now about 460 years in space |
| 16:29.46 | dino82_ | from current timeframe |
| 16:30.08 | Technobliterator | Ah, they would be around then |
| 16:30.27 | Technobliterator | Could they be involved? |
| 16:31.37 | dino82_ | sure |
| 16:31.47 | dino82_ | with old or newer ships? (V1 or the newer ones?) |
| 16:31.51 | Technobliterator | woo |
| 16:31.58 | Technobliterator | hm, probably older ones |
| 16:32.08 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian, do you want to get CyraFed involved? |
| 16:32.13 | dino82_ | nice |
| 16:34.49 | Im_not_a_robot | Jo: XChat is on Linux and Windows, I used to be a Linux fan and even had it running on my old computer |
| 16:36.17 | Im_not_a_robot | Ubuntu I think it was |
| 16:36.26 | Technobliterator | I use ubuntu :o |
| 16:37.06 | Im_not_a_robot | The version I had, had loads of nerdy science and mathematical apps |
| 16:37.42 | Im_not_a_robot | not that I'm complaining |
| 16:39.16 | DrodoEmpire | Be back later |
| 16:39.29 | Cyrannian | Technobliterator: How many years ago did it take place again? |
| 16:40.05 | Technobliterator | It was around...20 years before the Second Ottzello War? So, like, Tigris War time or so? ?___? |
| 16:40.36 | Cyrannian | Cool so the URC could be involved |
| 16:40.41 | Im_not_a_robot | I probably would change back but I'd have to get all my software and games working on it so probably never will on my current machine |
| 16:40.50 | Technobliterator | oh, sure |
| 16:42.08 | Technobliterator | The plot of the First Ottzello War is meant to be pretty simple. It's just, everyone goes for Loron, Loron win anyway |
| 16:42.09 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 16:42.23 | Cyrannian | Perhaps we could also use the Ottzello Libertus |
| 16:42.30 | Technobliterator | Mhm, yeah |
| 16:48.51 | Technobliterator | bbl |
| 16:56.03 | Monet | Im_not_a_robot, Ghelae: I just realsied something. I've heard that water boils at a lower temperature higher up in the Earth's atmosphere. |
| 16:56.13 | Im_not_a_robot | Yes |
| 16:56.28 | Monet | So on Alcanti...would the boiling point of water be higher? |
| 16:56.44 | Ghelae | Is the atmospheric pressure on Alcanti lower than on Earth? |
| 16:56.49 | Ghelae | higher* |
| 16:56.58 | Monet | It is |
| 16:56.59 | Ghelae | If so, yes. |
| 16:57.10 | Im_not_a_robot | ^ |
| 16:57.38 | Monet | Would that change the melting point as well? |
| 16:57.49 | Im_not_a_robot | I believe it would |
| 16:58.20 | Im_not_a_robot | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Phase_diagram_of_water.svg/700px-Phase_diagram_of_water.svg.png |
| 16:59.18 | Monet | I'm jsut wondering the plausability of there still being ice on a planet with a global temperature of 37 degrees |
| 17:00.45 | Monet | Though this chart suggests that Water's melting point doesn't change until 10,000atm |
| 17:01.07 | Ghelae | There might be snow in winter, but I doubt Alcanti would have permanent ice caps. |
| 17:01.26 | Im_not_a_robot | Actually accordting to that diagram, not by a lot until less than 1 kPa, below of which ice sublimates |
| 17:03.46 | Monet | Permanent ice caps isn't so bad. |
| 17:04.06 | Monet | I've always written Minos'Drakon as being within a tundra region. |
| 17:04.47 | Ghelae | Remember, twice Earth's atmospheric pressure is only one little square above 1 atm on that phase diagram. There's basically no difference to the melting point, and the boiling point goes up by maybe 20 degrees. |
| 17:08.08 | Im_not_a_robot | drom http://imgur.com/gallery/AJcAlS6 |
| 17:09.40 | Imperios | Monet: ...You did? |
| 17:10.09 | Monet | Imperios: I was inspired by that jungle region in Northrend |
| 17:10.16 | Imperios | Sholazar? |
| 17:10.25 | Monet | Yeah |
| 17:10.46 | Imperios | I always imagined it as looking kinda like Vatican and with a Mediterannean-esque climate |
| 17:10.47 | Im_not_a_robot | http://imgur.com/gallery/HFklQ |
| 17:12.23 | Monet | Imperios: You're kinda right about the mediterranian climate |
| 17:13.18 | Monet | The idea was it's a valley that provides a warmer-than-average climate |
| 17:13.25 | Imperios | Ah |
| 17:13.38 | Imperios | Maybe there are underground heat sources? |
| 17:14.02 | Monet | There's a volcano on the valley rim so yeah, there's underground heat soures |
| 17:14.30 | Monet | Though I guess due to the northern latitude its filled with pine trees. |
| 17:14.36 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vida%27Rranlora this had escaped my previous rewriting wave |
| 17:14.40 | Imperios | Draconis - Eh |
| 17:16.45 | Imperios | Now I wonder if there is a Database in Andromeda |
| 17:17.26 | OluapPlayer | Logically there should be |
| 17:19.59 | Monet | Needs mentioning unless its lost |
| 17:20.52 | OluapPlayer | Can't mention something that has never been in a fiction |
| 17:23.31 | Monet | I do that all the time honestly. |
| 17:23.54 | Monet | It helps enrich the pages. |
| 17:24.09 | OluapPlayer | I don't mention Databases who are not relevant to fiction |
| 17:24.12 | Imperios | It could be connected to the Nars |
| 17:24.20 | Imperios | And held by the Anointed |
| 17:25.16 | OluapPlayer | After Tantum and the Gros I don't think doing fiction related to Andromeda is good for me |
| 17:25.37 | Imperios | I think there is a way we could weave it into Fog War |
| 17:26.01 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (adfc264b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.252.38.75) |
| 17:26.19 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 17:26.21 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 17:26.29 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:27.31 | Monet | hello |
| 17:28.58 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Maybe a plot more interwoven with your fiction is needed. |
| 17:29.35 | Monet | I know we tried that with the Gros but-- |
| 17:29.50 | Monet | Hm, what about Post-RoG stuff? |
| 17:29.53 | OluapPlayer | So far all I've done in Andromeda either ended terribly or ended incomplete |
| 17:30.08 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how that relates to me |
| 17:30.51 | Monet | Because of their involvement, the Indocs would be considered a major threat to the Draconiane. |
| 17:31.01 | Monet | by the draconizane* |
| 17:31.42 | OluapPlayer | By then the Indocs have already left Andromedaq |
| 17:31.57 | OluapPlayer | *Andromeda |
| 17:32.04 | Monet | Why are they abandoning everywhere all of a sudden? |
| 17:32.21 | DrodoEmpire | Androme-dack |
| 17:33.49 | OluapPlayer | The Indocs left Andromeda like, last year |
| 17:34.12 | Hachiman | Borealis is becoming an increasingly beneficial prospect hur |
| 17:35.04 | OluapPlayer | They left because of that plot Imp left unfinished |
| 17:35.32 | OluapPlayer | Rather than continue having cultists spread into their worlds, they packed up and left |
| 17:36.03 | Monet | Which plot? |
| 17:36.24 | OluapPlayer | Not even you remember it |
| 17:36.34 | OluapPlayer | The one with Venoriel's daughter, Gavakar and Sarec |
| 17:36.37 | Monet | Do you mean the Shattering? |
| 17:36.53 | OluapPlayer | Revelations to Come |
| 17:37.02 | OluapPlayer | I think that was the name |
| 17:37.46 | Hachiman | I remember that |
| 17:38.08 | Monet | I was under the impression the story was retconned into not happening |
| 17:38.45 | OluapPlayer | It's still canon from what Imp told me. Kagu'sai is linked to it to some extent |
| 17:39.49 | Imperios | Ya |
| 17:39.57 | Imperios | We should try to redo it one day |
| 17:40.01 | Monet | I'm aware of it I just didn't expeect it to lead up to the Indocs leaving |
| 17:40.45 | OluapPlayer | I'd be willing to if you promised to finish it and rp not at the speed of snail |
| 17:42.24 | MOnetAway | Faster RP paces are nice. |
| 17:46.13 | Imperios | I think I could try |
| 17:48.07 | Im_not_a_robot | Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/JtAUkdy |
| 18:05.10 | dino82_ | bye bye all |
| 18:06.14 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (027d480e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.125.72.14) |
| 18:06.24 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 18:06.32 | Xho | I HATH RETURNED FROM SOMEWHERE |
| 18:07.34 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 18:07.58 | Xho | ups |
| 18:09.33 | Xho | So I went to Jersey for the weekend |
| 18:09.55 | Xho | To describe what it's like, it's a lot like the common modern woman - pretty, but there's not much to it |
| 18:13.03 | Hachiman | "When a waiter brings you your food bare-handed and he warns you that the plate is hot, he might as well finish that sentence by calling you a pussy." |
| 18:14.00 | Xho | ~kick Hachiman |
| 18:14.00 | infobot | ACTION kicks Hachiman |
| 18:14.26 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 18:19.15 | Imperios | Xho: For a second I thought you meant New Jersey |
| 18:19.24 | Xho | lol no |
| 18:19.51 | Imperios | JOISEY |
| 18:20.20 | OluapPlayer | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/429319527990631879/B1198CA7ACF221B006F587D3779D65FCB1DD244C/ |
| 18:20.42 | Imperios | Speaking of which: Monet suggested restarting the Shattering |
| 18:21.28 | drom | Of which I think I can have another chance getting my new fiction involved |
| 18:21.43 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer: Is it true that less players play LoL? |
| 18:21.46 | Imperios | *less Russians |
| 18:21.54 | Ghelae | I was rereading most of the Andromeda War a few days ago an wondered what happened to the Shattering. |
| 18:21.57 | OluapPlayer | I don't know anything about LoL |
| 18:22.13 | Hachiman | Not really, still a significant number of Russians |
| 18:22.27 | Xho | SUKA |
| 18:22.38 | Imperios | BLYAT |
| 18:22.41 | Hachiman | its spelt cyka u fukin dum shit |
| 18:22.42 | Imperios | ÄÀÉ ÌÀÍÛ ÊÎÒË |
| 18:22.46 | Imperios | ÑÓÊÀ |
| 18:22.48 | Ghelae | I also noticed a conspicuous "Monet u finish now" on the Firestorm page. |
| 18:22.49 | Imperios | ß ÌÈÄ |
| 18:22.51 | Imperios | ÏÓÄÆ |
| 18:22.58 | drom | So they finally moved back to their putin-dedicated servers? |
| 18:24.01 | Xho | its pronounced suka u dum shit |
| 18:24.32 | drom | cyka is cryrillic for suka you turd pile |
| 18:25.06 | Xho | i kno dat u cockjuggling thundercunt |
| 18:25.18 | Xho | Suddenly it's just turned into a swear-fest |
| 18:25.22 | Monet | Ghelae: It needs rebooting. |
| 18:25.39 | drom | good on you dickwaving fuckfeast |
| 18:25.50 | OluapPlayer | Cute kittens and pretty rainbows |
| 18:26.56 | Imperios | Ghelae: That Firestorm thing was a section that we RPd but Monet lost |
| 18:27.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: BTW are you willing to RP the Shattering? |
| 18:27.33 | Imperios | I'll promise to at least hasten the pace somewhat |
| 18:27.33 | Ghelae | Right; okay. |
| 18:27.51 | Hachiman | I cannot even remember what the Shattering was about |
| 18:28.01 | Hachiman | What time did it happen and when did it end again? |
| 18:28.25 | Monet | It started in 2797 |
| 18:28.29 | Imperios | Right after the New Dawn |
| 18:28.37 | Imperios | Basically Andromeda kinda breaks apart |
| 18:29.57 | Hachiman | Right |
| 18:30.05 | Hachiman | Then yeah I suppos |
| 18:30.10 | Hachiman | suppose even |
| 18:30.30 | Hachiman | If I recall 2797 was also supposed to be when Golden Movement started up |
| 18:31.13 | Imperios | Crispy was supposed to play a large role in the story |
| 18:31.14 | Monet | I think you planned it around the time of New Dawn's conclusion. |
| 18:31.21 | Imperios | Also Crispy's boyfriend |
| 18:31.27 | Imperios | Aka Althron |
| 18:31.31 | Hachiman | Ah yes |
| 18:31.56 | Hachiman | Gives me more motivation to get the Acquisition Wars and Moxix stuff written up then |
| 18:32.06 | Hachiman | So I can move onto Golden Movement at last |
| 18:32.19 | OluapPlayer | aka never |
| 18:32.52 | Imperios | So you coming? |
| 18:33.04 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 18:33.10 | Imperios | Alright |
| 18:33.17 | Hachiman | I need stuff to do for the Brood other than die of course |
| 18:34.40 | Monet | Have a mega-party? |
| 18:35.40 | Monet | SOmetimes I wonder if the Andromeda War could do with tweaking |
| 18:36.20 | Monet | The first part of it was supposed to be a DI-Divinarium war that ended up lasting about three battles. |
| 18:36.44 | Hachiman | Yeah I agree |
| 18:36.53 | Hachiman | Also need to introduce Andromedan Zazane kingdoms |
| 18:37.00 | Hachiman | And the Brood unifying them hur |
| 18:39.37 | Monet | It would be nice but also its the Andromeda War. |
| 18:39.49 | Monet | I tried making a comic out of it but gave up after page 2 I think |
| 18:41.26 | Monet | http://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Andromeda-War-Prologue-page-2-352044093 looking back, the shots I used weren't too bad |
| 18:41.39 | Imperios | You should try drawing it |
| 18:41.48 | Imperios | Would be good practice for you |
| 18:42.19 | Monet | I think my lecturers are getting suspicious of my drawing preferences. |
| 18:43.15 | Hachiman | deyr onto ur scaliness |
| 18:43.52 | Monet | It might not be so bad if I drew some non-draconic characters and scenes |
| 18:44.12 | Hachiman | Meanwhile my tutors get suspicious of the fact I like to draw warrior women whenever drawing is required for a unit, particularly orcs or elves |
| 18:45.46 | Monet | I've been given two artistic suggestions by my course leader: Less dragons and less painterly style |
| 18:48.19 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:52.15 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 19:07.06 | Imperios | Hachiman the Femdom Fan |
| 19:07.43 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: I saw a video of a WoW fan reviewing a D&D game |
| 19:08.01 | Imperios | When he got to race choice he started complaining that he can only play as half-orcs and not normal orcs hur |
| 19:08.52 | OluapPlayer | Depending of the game you can play as normal orcs |
| 19:09.02 | OluapPlayer | Pathfinder for example has stats for orcs |
| 19:09.33 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vectors_of_Chaos_and_Order_01.png - For the second last NCW story |
| 19:10.49 | Imperios | Huh looks cool |
| 19:10.57 | Imperios | Now I wonder what faction is Chaos and what is ORder |
| 19:11.03 | Technobliterator | ok back |
| 19:11.10 | Technobliterator | I can begin First Ottzello War now maybe |
| 19:11.45 | Cyrannian | Will be about the confrontation between the Primercer and Anteddy too |
| 19:12.20 | OluapPlayer | Big angry raptor simulator |
| 19:12.55 | Technobliterator | also that image looks very good |
| 19:14.24 | Cyrannian | Danke |
| 19:15.32 | Im_not_a_robot | politics spoils everything http://www.wired.com/2015/08/won-science-fictions-hugo-awards-matters/ |
| 19:16.41 | Technobliterator | oh, ty for quote monet |
| 19:16.58 | Monet | Im_not_a_robot: i HTOUGHT hEINLEN DID INCLUDE A BIT OF POLITICS |
| 19:17.03 | Monet | Sorry for caps |
| 19:17.23 | Im_not_a_robot | Not what its about |
| 19:18.10 | Im_not_a_robot | Hugo awards have become the victim of right wingers who have played the voting system to filter out left wing-based stories |
| 19:18.23 | Monet | Oh |
| 19:18.33 | Monet | I thought you meant politics in fiction lol |
| 19:19.02 | Im_not_a_robot | However the article uses a shit comparison |
| 19:19.07 | Im_not_a_robot | "Would sci-fi focus, as it has for much of its history, largely on brave white male engineers with ray guns fighting either a) hideous aliens or b) hideous governments who donât want them to mine asteroids in space? Or would it continue its embrace of a broader sci-fi: stories about non-traditionally gendered explorers and post-singularity, post-ethnic characters who are sometimes not men and often even have feelings?" |
| 19:20.47 | Im_not_a_robot | A sci-fi story could easily have a transgendered person fighting hideous aliens for all I care, these tropes are not mutually exclusive. *If* people on the left start abandoning such tropes like hideous aliens or totalitarian governments because they might elate to "white male oppressors" that is equally as wrong |
| 19:21.04 | Im_not_a_robot | imo |
| 19:21.25 | Im_not_a_robot | So yes, both sides are probably fucking up the awards imo. Fuck politics and fuck awards anyway |
| 19:21.45 | Im_not_a_robot | I just like reading sci-fi books at the end of the day |
| 19:23.10 | Monet | I think the popularity of hideos aliens came from COld War rhetoric if it means anything |
| 19:27.28 | Monet | At least for the golden age of alien invasions |
| 19:27.51 | Monet | And War of the Worlds itself was a critique of British imperialism. |
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| 19:35.47 | Monet | Technobliterator: Np. I had fun coming up with it. |
| 19:51.03 | Im_not_a_robot | that is a really nice planet http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kirioohsk.png |
| 19:51.21 | Im_not_a_robot | Spore planets may be cartoony but they can be pleasing |
| 19:51.32 | Im_not_a_robot | Makes me want to play Spore again. |
| 19:52.19 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Kirioohsk - Take a look at the page too |
| 19:52.54 | Im_not_a_robot | Hang on... |
| 19:53.05 | Im_not_a_robot | I'm afraid your image has been stolen. |
| 19:53.19 | Im_not_a_robot | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Elder_Warlock |
| 19:53.31 | Im_not_a_robot | Did he ask permission to use that? |
| 19:53.45 | Im_not_a_robot | Anyways I'll read the page |
| 19:53.51 | Cyrannian | It's dino's planet and image, I'll ask him when he returns |
| 19:54.23 | Cyrannian | Though inhabited by my Cargura, based on the Togruta |
| 19:55.08 | Im_not_a_robot | The creatures and architecture of the buildings goes well with the planet |
| 19:57.18 | Monet | Yeah some new user has decided ot stick the planet o nhis userpage. |
| 19:58.02 | Im_not_a_robot | He should ask permission and stick a caption on giving Dino the credit. But its probably innocent so no need to be harsh |
| 20:16.22 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/TheRealEspurr/videos/418729844996225/ |
| 20:31.07 | Xho | Bah |
| 20:42.20 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Vectors_of_Chaos_and_Order - First few parts are up! |
| 20:43.30 | Hachiman | Xho: DO IT |
| 20:46.01 | OluapPlayer | chek dat shi yo |
| 20:48.41 | Hachiman | Tyrómairon: "His existence is an chronicle of arrogance and self-appointed authority. Ignorant of my true power. Through his destruction however, he shall transcend ignorance." |
| 20:48.54 | Hachiman | It would appear Antediluvian has no idea what hypocrisy means |
| 20:49.18 | OluapPlayer | Anteddy - im da best |
| 20:50.21 | Xho | head hurts at dis |
| 20:51.04 | Hachiman | I honestly dunno who to root for |
| 20:51.41 | Hachiman | Well, no, obviously I am rooting for Voro |
| 20:51.55 | Hachiman | But I mean between the Primercer and the Emperor I am unsure |
| 20:52.21 | Xho | Voro has some pretty cool armour |
| 20:52.27 | Cyrannian | I had a poll on my userpage and more people went for Anteddy I believe |
| 20:52.40 | Cyrannian | Though probably because he's been around longer |
| 20:52.41 | OluapPlayer | The conclusion of this fiction will be remarkable for the galaxy as a whole |
| 20:52.49 | Xho | everyonedies.avi |
| 20:52.49 | OluapPlayer | Which is why Cyrannian needs to step up and keep writing |
| 20:52.51 | Hachiman | Oh boy |
| 20:53.19 | Hachiman | I am hoping Voro manages to waste both the Primercer and the Emperor |
| 20:53.33 | Hachiman | So mortals can control Cyrannus once again |
| 20:53.52 | Xho | I dunno if Voro has that much military power behind him |
| 20:53.54 | Xho | Or does he |
| 20:54.13 | Cyrannian | Probably not right now, but I'm glad people like Voro, I've been using him a lot more lately |
| 20:54.42 | Hachiman | Isn't the Order allied with the NCR? |
| 20:55.55 | Cyrannian | Aye, it's even in the MCA |
| 20:56.25 | Hachiman | He should call for their reinforcements to absolutely gut the Empire and the Cognatus Empire at the opportune moment and try to take out two birds with one stone |
| 20:57.16 | Xho | I'm not quite sure who is more immoral, Tyro or Primercer |
| 20:57.29 | Xho | They're both a bit on the psycho dictator spectrum |
| 20:58.01 | Hachiman | Antediluvian is a dictator obsessed with law and imperialism, Primercer is a dictator obsessed with worship and zealousy |
| 20:58.56 | Xho | No happy medium then |
| 20:58.58 | Cyrannian | I think Tyromairón is both more sinister and yet arguably less selfish in that he does have a desire for order while the Primercer is more selfish in that he views the Coggies as a means to an end |
| 20:59.22 | OluapPlayer | Primercer - freaky mouths ngh Cognatus - :C |
| 20:59.58 | Hachiman | The final battle between Antediluvian and the Primercer should be fantastic nonetheless though given how powerful each one of them are |
| 21:00.07 | OluapPlayer | Gorf wins |
| 21:00.11 | Hachiman | Or is, whatever |
| 21:00.51 | Xho | planets blow up pls |
| 21:01.03 | Cyrannian | Hopefully anyway, such battles between ultraterrestrials are difficult to plan and write |
| 21:01.05 | OluapPlayer | u blow up forever |
| 21:01.05 | Xho | I just ate a whole packet of Rolos to myself |
| 21:01.11 | Xho | I am now ashamed of myself |
| 21:01.32 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 21:01.42 | Ghel | Anteddy throws a planet at the Primercer and the planet explodes into Gorf. There everyone's happy. |
| 21:02.15 | Hachiman | Their battle should resort to a punching fest |
| 21:02.21 | Xho | What are the actual abilities of an Oikoumene |
| 21:02.29 | Xho | Aside from shapeshifting |
| 21:02.30 | Cyrannian | Or kicks to the Oikou-balls |
| 21:02.32 | Hachiman | Back to square one given I doubt they can outmatch one another |
| 21:03.24 | Hachiman | Will this be the end of the New Cyrandia Wars? |
| 21:03.26 | Cyrannian | I kinda just mention their abilities in passing in stories rather than form a definitive guide on what they can or can't do |
| 21:03.32 | OluapPlayer | This is the second to last plot |
| 21:03.39 | OluapPlayer | There will be one more then the war is over |
| 21:03.49 | Hachiman | At long last |
| 21:03.51 | Cyrannian | There's one last battle between the Empire and the Imperial State which people can join if they want |
| 21:04.09 | Xho | Kicath - gotta siranunno fast |
| 21:04.11 | Hachiman | A unified Cyrannus will be good |
| 21:04.13 | OluapPlayer | Well there goes the secret |
| 21:04.24 | OluapPlayer | Yes it's the final boss fight with the CIS scum |
| 21:04.32 | Hachiman | Aw yis |
| 21:05.01 | Cyrannian | Oh and the New Republic will be there too since they allied with the Empire against the Imperial State when they tried and start a war between them |
| 21:05.10 | Imperios | The Primercer is more underhanded to me |
| 21:05.20 | Hachiman | So Apollo and Antediluvian are bros now then |
| 21:05.33 | Imperios | Tyro relies more on planning while Primercer is more manipulative |
| 21:05.39 | OluapPlayer | Not bros |
| 21:05.49 | OluapPlayer | They have a common enemy |
| 21:06.18 | Hachiman | rite |
| 21:06.21 | Imperios | Apollo - DIE CIS SCUM *tumblr tumblr* |
| 21:06.34 | Imperios | speaking of which |
| 21:06.39 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Shattering#Saved_From_Cataclysm HOLY SHIT I ACTUALLY DID THIS |
| 21:06.43 | Imperios | WE ACTUALLY DID THIS |
| 21:06.46 | Xho | I wonder what would become of Zillum and co. if the Imperial State blows up |
| 21:07.05 | Hachiman | I cannot envision a Cyrannus without Zillum |
| 21:07.07 | Imperios | He deserted didn't he |
| 21:07.17 | Imperios | He's going to make his own little Zillakingdom now |
| 21:07.23 | Imperios | Currency is kittens |
| 21:07.33 | Cyrannian | Aye and in typical Zillium fashion by brutally murdering a Basileus in front of the CIS leader |
| 21:07.46 | Xho | Zillum evolves into Zillumdocto and Zillumdoctos everything...at least that's what would go on in my head |
| 21:07.48 | OluapPlayer | Zillum and Tyrant left the State after the Syndicate plot |
| 21:07.48 | Ghel | Imperios: Currency that is eaten is a bad idea. |
| 21:08.06 | OluapPlayer | They're gonna do their own thing and leave the State to die because they're dumb |
| 21:08.19 | OluapPlayer | The State is dumb that is |
| 21:08.24 | Cyrannian | Tyermaillin - ;< |
| 21:08.56 | OluapPlayer | Tyrant - stoopid greenie |
| 21:08.59 | Xho | Zillum - I'M GONNA GO MAKE MY OWN EMPIRE WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS |
| 21:09.23 | Cyrannian | Xho: hur I was just reminded of that |
| 21:09.28 | Imperios | Moch-Na becomes a hooker |
| 21:09.34 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 21:09.35 | Imperios | And Tyrant provides the blackjack] |
| 21:09.44 | Xho | Mortalitas hookers |
| 21:09.49 | Xho | Who in the Gigaquadrant would find that attractive |
| 21:10.10 | OluapPlayer | Mortalitas men |
| 21:10.14 | Cyrannian | A human version of Mortikran probably |
| 21:10.15 | Xho | ...rite |
| 21:10.21 | Imperios | Suddenly the phrase "Suck my dick, I am a shark" becomes a lot more interesting |
| 21:10.31 | Hachiman | olol |
| 21:10.41 | Hachiman | Especially given sharks tend to have two of them |
| 21:10.44 | Xho | o deer |
| 21:11.43 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám hookers All of a sudden suicide seems preferable |
| 21:11.52 | Imperios | Speaking of which |
| 21:11.57 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Shattering#The_Last_of_the_Brotherhood WE FUCKING DID THIS |
| 21:12.01 | Imperios | TOOK US FUCKING TWO YEARS |
| 21:12.11 | Imperios | ONE YEAR |
| 21:12.12 | Xho | sorry wat fiction is dis |
| 21:12.20 | Imperios | New Dawn sequel |
| 21:12.34 | Xho | u wat |
| 21:12.35 | Imperios | Big ship explodes -> blows up all of Andromeda -> Andromeda falls apart |
| 21:12.47 | Imperios | Basically 9/11 on a cosmic scale |
| 21:13.17 | Hachiman | hur |
| 21:13.18 | Xho | Cyrannus at war and Andromeda is falling apart |
| 21:13.26 | Xho | http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/screencrush.com/442/files/2012/12/the_great_gatsby_trailer.jpg Kithworto is like this going "I told you this was gonna happen" |
| 21:14.15 | Xho | And now Borealis is the safest place in the Gigaquadrant |
| 21:14.42 | OluapPlayer | The safest place because I can't do fiction in it |
| 21:15.13 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lost_in_Space#Chapter_08 - This reminds me, Dino wrote a fiction set in a brothel recently |
| 21:15.16 | Xho | Well gimme a week and we can go back to Kamaris killing ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 21:15.20 | Xho | Time off times is coming |
| 21:15.34 | Technobliterator | If it's any consolation, the Ottzello Sector is not safe |
| 21:15.43 | Hachiman | I need to read this |
| 21:15.45 | OluapPlayer | You're slowing all of my fiction down just so you know |
| 21:15.54 | Technobliterator | I guess some parts of the Arm of Wilderness are not safe either |
| 21:16.00 | Imperios | And yes the end of New Dawn was an inside job |
| 21:16.03 | Technobliterator | also yes Xho you need to do that fog war thingy |
| 21:16.14 | Hachiman | inb4 Althron's new limbs consist of steel beams |
| 21:16.30 | Xho | You don't have to do Fog War with me, you can use my characters when I'm not around/don't feel like doing it |
| 21:16.55 | Xho | Real life is going a bit too fast right now for me to impart attention on the wiki |
| 21:18.17 | Imperios | Hachiman: The final scene of the Shattering is going to be Quendor trying to melt Althron's arms |
| 21:21.40 | OluapPlayer | I need you to lead the Congregation planet section |
| 21:22.03 | Xho | Oh yeah that |
| 21:22.17 | Xho | Er well I could try tomorrow |
| 21:22.39 | Cyrannian | When will I be back in the Fog War with Sesoka? |
| 21:24.00 | OluapPlayer | After the next section iirc |
| 21:24.05 | Cyrannian | rite |
| 21:24.34 | Imperios | I can't do it tomorrow unfortunately |
| 21:24.41 | Imperios | Wednesday or Friday maybe |
| 21:24.47 | OluapPlayer | Neither can I, I'll be busy with homework |
| 21:37.36 | Xho | 0/10 there is no god |
| 21:45.34 | Xho | So One Direction are splitting up |
| 21:45.37 | Xho | 10/10 there is a god |
| 21:47.09 | Monet | We all knew this day was coming really |
| 21:47.27 | Xho | Suppose so |
| 21:47.33 | Xho | They're all miserable human beings |
| 21:47.34 | Monet | BTW http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:History_Reawakens bit long maybe but, well its big. |
| 21:48.14 | Monet | F5 |
| 21:54.55 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 21:55.00 | Technobliterator | I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier |
| 21:55.32 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Grand_Ottzel_Order :oo |
| 21:56.50 | Cyrannian | Surprised it isn't trending on Twitter, I expected the tweetapocalypse |
| 21:58.50 | Technobliterator | Also, comparisons to Cerberus are unintentional |
| 22:00.37 | Cyrannian | Very nice work |
| 22:26.46 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Ottzel will have to finish this later |
| 22:26.52 | Technobliterator | ran out of steam |
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| 23:15.05 | Im_not_a_robot | So Coca Cola still contains some extracts from the coca leaf. |
| 23:15.55 | Im_not_a_robot | But the company is monitored to ensure no significant amounts spike the drink |
| 23:18.44 | Im_not_a_robot | well thats a mighty name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Kahanamoku |
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