IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150813

00:49.30TechnobliteratorOh, Charles is here
00:49.36TechnobliteratorI should've asked about GXS
00:59.46Wormy_Do you want me to tell him you mean to contact?
01:00.14DrodoEmpireNeed to change nick more often. >.<
01:00.41Tek0516lol
01:01.55Wormy_Well I saw some meteors, and a slug eating another slug.
01:02.20Tek0516O.o
01:03.01DrodoEmpirenasty
01:05.47TechnobliteratorWormy_, sure
01:06.00TechnobliteratorI'd like a bot with a !send function
01:06.03TechnobliteratorMaybe one day
01:06.09Tek0516Just saw this. https://mobile.twitter.com/N_Shvetsov/status/631530195988709378 Oh my.
01:06.32Wormy_Whats this?
01:06.56DrodoEmpireI think there was a very large explosion in the Chinese city of Tianjin.
01:08.53Wormy_Very very big
01:10.47DrodoEmpireI'm not sure why though. I hope it was just an industrial accident and not an attack of some sort
01:11.07DrodoEmpireBecause if it were an attack, that would only mean worse things on the horizon
01:11.51Tek0516It was an industrial explosion.
01:11.58DrodoEmpireRight.
01:13.48Wormy_It was explosives and flammable liquids, and given its a port city it was probably storing or transport
01:13.58Tek0516Industrial accident at a "dangerous and chemical goods" warehouse
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01:14.43DrodoEmpireHello
01:14.50DrodoEmpireHm.
01:15.16DecopodianEmpirehello
01:15.58Wormy_I hope the chemicals won't effect people
01:16.02Wormy_hi
01:16.32DecopodianEmpirewhat chemicals?
01:17.07Wormy_So apparentely, the Perseids I was looking at come from a comet, that if hit the Earth, would be 26 times more powerful than the Cretaceous-Palaeogene impact.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Swift%E2%80%93Tuttle
01:18.20Wormy_luckily collision is not going to happen anytime soon
01:20.08DrodoEmpireThere was a large explosion in the Chinese city of Tianjin
01:20.29DecopodianEmpireby the time it happans we could probobly shoot a laser at it or a nuke or missle or something and blow it's comet ass to hell before it even gets withen 700 miles of the earth
01:20.35DrodoEmpireIt was an industrial accident when a hazardous materials warehouse went off
01:21.00DrodoEmpireShooting a nuke is hard, is the thing
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01:21.23DrodoEmpireIf its too close then the radiation would fall back to Earth
01:21.27DecopodianEmpireok
01:21.31DecopodianEmpirethen a laser
01:21.36DrodoEmpireOr cause an EMP even
01:22.13DrodoEmpireYou would need a *gigantic* laser to vapourize an asteroid or comet from hundreds or thousands of kilometres away
01:22.19DrodoEmpireImpractically large.
01:22.27DrodoEmpireWith an impractically large energy source
01:22.47DecopodianEmpireok instead of a laser or nuke how about a regular missle
01:22.50Wormy_Nukes aren't a good idea, but in a few hundred years we could easily repel comets.  Lasers and mirrors (on an asteroid) may work, so might gravitational tugging or by painting it black so it absorbs more heat and drifts away a few degrees.
01:22.51Wormy_#
01:23.00DrodoEmpireA conventional missile would be best, if that were possible
01:23.10DrodoEmpireThe missile would need to be impractically large.
01:23.41Wormy_the problem is stopping the momentum of the comet or asteroid, you could fragment it, but it would still collide just all over the place
01:23.50DrodoEmpireA nuclear bomb, even a small one, is the equivalent of thousands of tons of TNT or cordite.
01:24.06DecopodianEmpirewe are talking thousands of years in the future
01:24.19DrodoEmpireThen yes, it'd be trivially easy.
01:24.22Wormy_maybe from a distance that might change its angle but close up, its not feasible
01:25.08DrodoEmpireAt that point weapons technology has probably gotten to the point that a broadside from whatever battleships we use then could atomize a continent, let along an asteroid
01:25.16Wormy_yeah
01:25.17DrodoEmpire*alone
01:26.22DecopodianEmpirein 2040 its estimated we will have unlimited meat from cell manipulation and robotic upgrades
01:27.21Wormy_http://greatideas.people.com/2015/08/12/kfc-china-pink-chicken-burger-bun/?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag
01:27.23DecopodianEmpirein our life time people will have robotic arms legs chests hearts organs
01:27.42Wormy_Some people already do to limited extent
01:27.58DecopodianEmpirethink about it
01:28.18DecopodianEmpireif you have a fully robotic body and human brain your pretty much immune to aging
01:32.27DecopodianEmpireeven death!
01:33.11DecopodianEmpireyour robotic body could sense death then send your conciousness to  a new pre-made  robot bod
01:33.12DecopodianEmpirey
01:34.32Wormy_sea monster found in the Baltic http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33872473
01:39.14Wormy_USA challenges Japan to a giant robot battle http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33310621
01:39.44Wormy_I'll root for Japan
01:41.07Wormy_bye
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02:23.20DecopodianEmpirett
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02:38.27DecopodianEmpirehello
02:41.55DecopodianEmpirenew paragraph!!!
02:44.57OfficerJackalCool! :D
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04:22.04DrodoEmpirehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbot_War - Just letting you European commies know that us Canadians KICKED YOUR ASS
04:22.16DrodoEmpire(Except for the Brits and Irish, we love you. <3)
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06:13.23DrodoEmpireHi
06:13.47HalopediamanHey-ho
06:14.34DrodoEmpireSay, you come onto IRC a lot but I've never seen you edit. XD
06:14.39DrodoEmpireDo you just like the community?
06:34.48HalopediamanOh sorry, people don't usually talk to me so I don't check the Freenode side often.
06:35.31HalopediamanUh, I edited once, maybe twice. Historically that's enough for me to consider myself "a part of" the community, so at that point I join their IRC channel.
06:35.59HalopediamanI'm more or less retired from all wikis at this point, I got tired of the politics.
06:36.33HalopediamanI hang around because nobody has told me to leave. :v
06:37.06HalopediamanAs for why here specifically, ya'll are interesting folks and there are a overlapping interests here and there.
06:38.21HalopediamanAlso I sometimes exploit the knowledge reserves here for my own story writing purposes, as ya'll have the creation of storyverses down solid and you're not hard to talk to like Halo-Fanon people.
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06:44.16DrodoEmpireAhh, I see
06:44.24DrodoEmpire(Sorry for the absence)
06:44.43DrodoEmpireWhy are the halo people bad conversation partners?
06:44.46DrodoEmpireOr dare I ask? XD
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06:47.53DrodoEmpireHello
06:50.42HalopediamanThe people I know...well, let's just say they contributed to my retirement.
06:51.28HalopediamanThere are a bunch of new people now that I'm sure are alright, I just don't know them that well.
06:51.42DrodoEmpireAhh
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07:44.20DrodoEmpireHello
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09:41.15dromHai
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10:51.36HachimanHai
10:57.54MonetHello
11:07.11dromHey
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11:08.49ImperiosHi
11:09.00dromHai
11:09.09Imperiosdrom Hachiman Monet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywwdr_4BT7U What Russians do in their spare time
11:09.36ImperiosRight in the healthcares
11:09.41HachimanOhgod I wasn't expecting that
11:10.28MonetThose are some pretty high kicks
11:10.45dromPretty sure I can do that as well- *fall over*
11:24.43HachimanAs that one kid falls over, "thanks Obama"
11:31.14ImperiosAnd then he breaks his leg
11:31.19ImperiosAnd recieves free healthcare
11:32.25HachimanI honestly cannot see why Americans hate the idea of free healthcare
11:33.10HachimanUs Brits would be thankful to see some more attention brought to the National Health Service due to its evident neglect
11:38.30MonetI think its because its a socialist concept.
11:39.12MonetBritain had the good fortune to set up the system before the rise of "socialism = dirtiy commies"
11:40.30MonetThough at the same tiem there could be pressure from big pharmaceutical companies
11:41.13HachimanTrue
11:42.07MonetHmm one suggestion seems to be that insurance companies lose out
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11:42.19AdmiralPandahi all
11:42.24ImperiosHi
11:42.32ImperiosAdmiralPanda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywwdr_4BT7U What Russians do in their spare time
11:44.24AdmiralPandathe lack of vodka disappoints me
11:44.43HachimanHai
11:47.14MonetI swear I recall hearing that "Obamacare" was the derogatory term for the act proposed by the Democratic government but based off an older Republican idea.
11:50.46Hachiman"Remember, Arthas, we are paladins. Vengeance cannot be a part of what we must do. If we allow our passions to turn to bloodlust, then we will become as vile as the orcs." - Uther the Lightbringer
11:50.53HachimanClearly has not heard of Sarenrae hur
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12:05.19Wormy_hi
12:06.03Wormy_drom Monet:  I saw a few meteors, and a slug devouring a slug.
12:07.16MonetThe meteor light does strange things to insects it seems
12:09.16HachimanImperios: So I am watching all the cutscenes and cinematics from Warcraft III to further bolster my knowledge with the lore, since my knowledge is relatively fleeting, and I got to the part where Arthas is being a tremendous dickwad
12:10.06AdmiralPandaHachiman: There's a specific part?
12:10.13HachimanRefusing to listen to Medivh about concerns of the future and firing Uther from service
12:10.22HachimanWhy is Arthas such a dick hur
12:10.27AdmiralPandabecause he is
12:10.38AdmiralPandaunder his armour he's literally a giant anthropomorphic dick wearing a mask
12:11.45MonetHe kept going on about how he was doing what was best for his people
12:11.46dromReminds me of Aladdin
12:11.51MonetBasically he was bor na spoiled brat
12:11.53TechnobliteratorWell, I now have a university place
12:12.02MonetTechnobliterator: Nice!
12:12.07dromNice!
12:12.08Technobliteratorthanks ^.^
12:13.00HachimanCongratulations
12:13.01MonetGranted Arthas could have mistaken Medivh for some crazy old man spouting about the end of the world.
12:13.14MonetHis father did so I think.
12:13.22Technobliteratorthanks all
12:13.24HachimanYeah
12:13.51HachimanSee, Thrall is smart for trusting mysterious robed wizards who ramble about incoming apocalypses and can transform into crows hur
12:16.13MonetThen again if they knew Medivh the Council of Lordaeron would have thrown him out even sooner.
12:17.11AdmiralPandawhich was exactly why he didn't say he was Medivh :P
12:17.40MonetAll he said was "I failed humanity once before"
12:18.13MonetHe did give a clue as to who he was, and he also hoped for redemption.
12:18.37MonetBeter, yet more cryptic, than saying "I am Medivh, who was posessed by Sargeras and opened the door for the Orcish Horde"
12:19.29Hachimanhur
12:19.56AdmiralPandayeah that's basically like admitting you're the herald of Rovagug when surrounded by, well, anyone
12:21.55AdmiralPandaRovagug being the pathfinder deity that is basically a giant hungry mouth that wants to eat everything that ever existed
12:24.17MonetYeah but ot be fair on Medivh he didn't ask to be the vessel for Sargeras' soul.
12:24.28MonetHe was literally born that way
12:25.36dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/OVvSEKA.webm
12:26.52dromWormy_: Later in the comments... http://i.imgur.com/V7FE6P8.jpg
12:28.33Wormy_lol
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13:00.07GhelaeHello.
13:08.11MonetWormy_: That cloud over Southern England has turned into rain and thunder
13:09.17Wormy_What cloud?
13:10.39HachimanI was in the middle of that
13:10.47HachimanHorrendous storm
13:11.55Wormy_better walk my dogs before it comes up north
13:12.07Wormy_Yesterday I was reading a heat wave was coming
13:12.46MonetIt was cloudy last night over SOuthern England
13:13.07GhelaeIt was hot and sunny here yesterday, which counts as a heat wave compared to today's weather.
13:13.39Wormy_Btw, who here knows about the gigantic explosion in China that was seen from space?
13:14.13Wormy_https://twitter.com/complex_uk/status/631770955287785480
13:14.14MonetI do
13:14.34MonetI hear that emergency services are still working
13:15.06MonetI think it was on the docks but its left a lot of peopel homeless
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13:15.34Wormy_Fires are still raging
13:16.00ImperiosHachiman: Arthas is pretty much a crazy dick yes
13:16.07ImperiosEven before being a Darth Knight
13:18.32Hachiman>Darth Knight
13:18.35Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-33890800
13:18.38HachimanArthas becomes the Sith King
13:18.44Wormy_Damn that second clip is terrrifying
13:18.51HachimanHai Oluap
13:19.05OluapPlayerHi
13:21.41Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-33898639
13:22.57HachimanOluapPlayer: I am watching the video you linked to me yesterday and I cannot help but think that the Orcs' faces in their avatar animations look like lions
13:23.26OluapPlayerHow far are you in it?
13:23.50HachimanGrom and Thrall are discussing about facing Mannaroth in a canyon
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13:24.00AdmiralPandahi all
13:24.06HachimanHai
13:24.16OluapPlayerYou're at the end of the original orc campaign then
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13:25.05HachimanAlso Jaina is a qt
13:25.11DrodoEmpireHi everyone
13:25.30AdmiralPandahi
13:26.00OluapPlayerShe was
13:26.03AdmiralPandaalso, solo queue people in League are still stupid, I remember now why I stopped playing solo
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13:27.03AdmiralPandafour people on my team (myself included) playing a run away like a bitch composition, fifth person decides to play a champion whose only method of attack is run straight towards the enemy, blames us when we lose
13:27.22AdmiralPandaI mean, we did get outplayed, but don't call us bad at the game when you can't even pick a champion that works with your team
13:28.52HachimanI am still fairly surprised about how "mortal" these agents of the Burning Legion are
13:29.21AdmiralPandaI don't think they were ever described as immortal
13:30.54HachimanMannaroth, the demon who cursed an entire race with his blood, was defeated with a conventional weapon in a conventional manner and I was rather surprised that Arthas defeated Mal'Ganis so easily
13:31.00OluapPlayerNot until WoW, no
13:31.21TechnobliteratorSo, Blizzard have said they aren't working on WoW 2
13:31.32TechnobliteratorI do think they inevitably will
13:31.40HachimanYou said Warcraft IV yesterday
13:31.54AdmiralPandaI doubt it, they're too savvy to make an MMO mistake like that
13:32.05TechnobliteratorThey have already said they are going to make Warcraft IV after StarCraft II
13:32.08TechnobliteratorOr, at least, they'll consider it
13:32.23HachimanRight
13:32.42TechnobliteratorBut they're not going to make WoW 2
13:32.54HachimanNeeds Matt Ward on Blizzard's team to get rid of the stench of Orc wank
13:32.54TechnobliteratorWhich is stupid, because c'mon, you're losing subs and it's a decade old game
13:33.18AdmiralPandamaking WoW 2 isn't going to fix that, if anything it'd kill it faster
13:33.58TechnobliteratorIt will fix the "decade-old-game with far too much content for a new player to reasonably catch up on" problem, though
13:34.22HachimanEh I dunno about that
13:34.28AdmiralPandait will, at the cost of alienating the existing playerbase
13:35.06TechnobliteratorYeah, but it's not like WoW 1 won't continue to exist
13:35.23AdmiralPandathing is, if WoW 1 continues to exist, people are just going to keep playing WoW 1
13:35.29TechnobliteratorThe existing playerbase who whine about how they'll have to do everything again can just stick to WoW 1
13:35.30HachimanAye
13:35.37TechnobliteratorWhile the new playerbase can move to the second game
13:35.56HachimanAnd watch as the second game dies faster than the first one
13:36.02AdmiralPanda^
13:36.09TechnobliteratorThe second game dying faster than the first one is inevitable
13:36.20HachimanBecause a WoW 2 would not be profitable
13:36.23AdmiralPandaand so there's no point in making a second one
13:36.30TechnobliteratorOf course it would be profitable
13:36.37TechnobliteratorIt would be less profitable, but it would still earn them money
13:37.00HachimanYes but that would be incomparable to the profit WoW has earned them
13:37.13TechnobliteratorThat doesn't mean it's not worth making
13:37.17HachimanSo there is no point in making a WoW 2 while they are still earning significant profit from WoW
13:37.20AdmiralPandaHonestly, if Blizzard is as smart as they have to be to be where they are, then they know WoW is dead, they're sustaining it while they can but are moving on to other projects
13:37.58AdmiralPandaA WoW sequel is pointless, if they have plans for a future MMO then it would not be a sequel to WoW
13:38.04HachimanYes, I would like to see StarCraft 2's expansions finished and then see Blizzard move onto new projects rather than relying on old IPs
13:38.50TechnobliteratorWell, they could just as easily make WoS, but they're going to have to let WoW go at some point
13:39.07AdmiralPandayou missed what I just said- they've probably already let it go
13:39.17TechnobliteratorNo, I agreed with what you said
13:39.29Technobliteratorthat they know WoW is dead and are transitioning away from it
13:40.23TechnobliteratorI would like to see WoW die sooner than it currently is dying, but that's not gonna happen :p
13:41.06TechnobliteratorThey could probably just make AIs for players to ally with in dungeons and just release it as a singleplayer game or something#
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13:41.35DrodoEmpireHey Monet
13:41.41Monethello
13:42.09DrodoEmpireSomething tells me the game world would still be eerily quiet even with plenty of AIs. XD
13:44.09AdmiralPandahonestly, the one thing I wish MMOs would do is drop the streamlining systems that remove social elements, such as automated instance queues
13:44.36HachimanI would like to say that I believe Legion will be the last expansion for World of Warcraft given how small the current playerbase is
13:44.37AdmiralPandaas tedious as it may be, you lose a lot when players don't have to talk to each other
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13:46.13TechnobliteratorNope
13:46.21TechnobliteratorThey're already planning the one afterwards
13:46.27TechnobliteratorAlso, where did you hear that their playerbase is small?
13:46.51AdmiralPandait's the smallest it's been since BC iirc
13:47.00HachimanYes
13:47.13Technobliterator...That's still not a small playerbase
13:47.14Technobliterator:       |
13:47.17Hachiman5 million current players if I recall
13:47.24ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Smallest since Vanilla in fact
13:47.32AdmiralPandathat's small by WoW standards
13:48.02ImperiosKeep in mind that at its heyday the game had 12 million players
13:48.06AdmiralPandadwarfed by Hearthstone's playerbase
13:48.26AdmiralPandaand yeah, as Imp says, that's half its peak playerbase
13:48.27HachimanHearthstone is the new Yu-Gi-Oh! hur
13:48.59AdmiralPandathere are so many new Yu-Gi-Oh!'s I can't figure out which one is the current one
13:49.37AdmiralPandathat said I never really tried because I hate RNG-based games
13:50.45TechnobliteratorI hate RNG
13:51.05TechnobliteratorAlso, 5 million players is still not small
13:51.11MonetIts goen down to 5 million?
13:51.24DrodoEmpireI've lost waay too many battles in EUIV to RNG so yeah me too. :p
13:51.29OluapPlayerYes
13:51.31TechnobliteratorIt's 45% of what it was at its peak, but that's not small
13:51.51TechnobliteratorThat's like saying someone's poor because they used to be a multi-billionaire and now are just a billionaire
13:51.52Technobliterator:       |
13:51.53DrodoEmpireIt'll *become* quite small, at this pace
13:51.57AdmiralPandait's small comparatively
13:52.17MonetStill one of the largest MMO playerbases
13:52.21AdmiralPandaand those ridiculous faces add nothing to your point, sorry if I'm being bitchy I just had to say something
13:52.30TechnobliteratorNo, still the largest MMO playerbase
13:52.31OluapPlayerIf you don't think losing more than half of your userbases is a significant loss then I don't know what constitutes loss to you
13:52.55TechnobliteratorOkay, it's a significant loss, but that doesn't mean its playerbase is so small that they need some kind of emergency
13:53.33DrodoEmpireNo they don't need an emergency, there *is* an emergency. :p WoW's a sinking ship and subscriber numbers show it.
13:53.46ImperiosKeep in mind that they also spend more resources than other MMOs
13:53.57AdmiralPanda^
13:53.57HachimanSo I have just gotten to the Night Elves arc of Warcraft III, I am anticipating Illidan
13:53.58ImperiosWoW playerbase expects more
13:54.02TechnobliteratorThis does not mean that this will be the last expansion pack
13:54.05ImperiosHachiman: Illidan only appears later on
13:54.08ImperiosLike very late in the story
13:54.09TechnobliteratorI would like it to be, but it is not
13:54.14OluapPlayerIllidan shows up about 70% through it
13:54.52HachimanSo I will have to put up with Furion flirting with Tyrande for a while hur
13:55.00AdmiralPandamhm
13:55.08AdmiralPandawell to be fair, they are married iirc
13:55.39OluapPlayerYes
13:55.54HachimanOh wow, Tyrande's such a bitch
13:55.55ImperiosTechnobliterator: It is *confirmed* not to be
13:56.02TechnobliteratorPrecisely
13:56.20ImperiosBut they are facing an emergency just considering how much fanservice they are churning out
13:56.22TechnobliteratorThis is why I say that the game is not dying yet
13:56.35AdmiralPandait's dying, it's not dead yet
13:56.40ImperiosPretty much
13:56.43ImperiosIt had its heyday
13:56.45TechnobliteratorI would like the next expansion to be the last one, but it does not seem that will be the case either
13:56.53HachimanFurion notices the humans and Orcs fighting the Legion and suggests allying with them and then Tyrande decides to be a racist
13:57.07TechnobliteratorGaming trends tend to die off, some slower than others
13:57.14OluapPlayerShe had no reason to trust them at that point
13:57.19TechnobliteratorI would not be surprised if MOBAs went out of favour later on
13:57.19OluapPlayerThe orcs did murder Cenarius
13:57.40MonetAnd chapped down the homeland
13:57.44HachimanTrue
13:57.48Monetchopped*
13:58.15MonetWhen the Night Elves sent warning arrows, Grom was like "fuk dat problem keep chopping"
13:59.16HachimanGrom was a dick for drinking corrupted substances again
13:59.33AdmiralPandaon the subject of MOBAs, I recently found out that one of the guys responsible for DotA also founded Riot, thereby demolishing any argument that one copied the other
13:59.48Hachimankek
13:59.57HachimanThat does not surprise me actually
14:00.54AdmiralPandanot really no, Guinsoo wanted to evolve the genre so he left DotA (which was limited by WC3) to do his own thing
14:02.11AdmiralPandaall the features removed in League that DotA fans defend to the death, such as turning speeds for example? he considered them unnecessary limitations placed by the game that had nothing to do with DotA
14:02.56MonetI'd say LoL also has more desig nfreedom
14:03.01AdmiralPandait does
14:03.01Monetdesign*
14:03.07AdmiralPandait's not even an opinion, it actually does
14:03.11MonetNot just in mechanics, but models too.
14:03.19AdmiralPandaagain, it actually does
14:03.30AdmiralPandaDotA has to be DotA, League doesn't
14:03.50AdmiralPandaand DotA is based on WC3, which as I just stated has a lot of mechanics that aren't really necessary
14:05.22Monet"LoL didnt' copy DotA, it improved it"
14:05.32MonetI can see that inciting a lot of rage.
14:05.44AdmiralPandayeah
14:06.02AdmiralPandathe thing I really find funny about it though, is that the development teams know, respect and like each other
14:06.35AdmiralPandathey aren't actually trying to compete, in fact Riot once postponed an entire day of pro games so that they wouldn't steal viewers from a DotA tournament
14:07.06DrodoEmpireHuh
14:07.27HachimanSo Tyrande just released Illidan from his prison, so much for him turning up late hur
14:08.00AdmiralPandaof course, DotA fans will always try to claim that it's better because it has more complexity, but League removes unnecessary complexity and adds its own
14:12.49HachimanHonestly I think that Furion was being unreasonable when he exiled Illidan from the Night Elf homeland
14:13.30HachimanI mean it is clear that Illidan does not serve the Legion and is a powerful ally yet he turns him away when he helped save the forests from further corruption
14:13.34AdmiralPandaI can't remember what Illidan did the first time around
14:14.50Imperiosthere are actually two different accounts
14:14.55ImperiosBecause time travel shenanigans
14:15.10OluapPlayerI think he served the Legion back during their first invasion
14:15.11ImperiosOne is that he defected to the Legion
14:15.17OluapPlayerI was right
14:15.30ImperiosThe other (I think it is now canon) is that he later rejoined the night elves
14:15.46ImperiosBut later was exiled for trying to recreate the magic well that attracted the demons to begin with
14:16.22OluapPlayerbasically he has a very bad record of being a megalomaniac
14:17.25HachimanTrue but from what I am seeing he is very good at using the Legion's powers against itself
14:17.38AdmiralPandaright, tbh I can get Malfurion just not wanting to have to deal with the prick anymore
14:18.48Wormy_More Japanese TV http://imgur.com/gallery/CFTC4
14:18.50OluapPlayerHe kind of turned himself into a demon despite having the option to simply destroy the Skull of Gul'dan
14:18.56OluapPlayerJust for the power
14:19.07AdmiralPandathat was the second thing he did
14:19.13AdmiralPandaI mean the thing that got him in the cage in the first place
14:19.24OluapPlayerIllidan is not a nice guy. He is absurdly power-hungry
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14:19.55GhelaeHello.
14:19.57GhelaeAnd bye.
14:21.23ImperiosThey're apparently going to show his more noble side in the next expansion
14:21.55ImperiosThough I think reviving Illidan purely for fanservice was pretty desperate from Blizzard
14:22.11HachimanThere is a class dedicated to Illidan in Legion if I recall
14:22.14HachimanDemon Hunters
14:22.56ImperiosWell duh
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14:23.13ImperiosBut they are using Illidan as a picture boy
14:23.15OluapPlayer_Stupid internet
14:23.27ImperiosMost art they have uses him
14:25.15Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sOhSd6tMM http://www.sciencealert.com/la-is-dumping-millions-of-small-plastic-balls-into-its-reservoir-to-tackle-the-drought
14:26.25HachimanSo Archimonde has just been Allah Ackbar'd by Furion and the Night Elves, and there is like tons more cutscenes left
14:26.34HachimanWarcraft III must have taken fucking ages to complete
14:27.11AdmiralPandamight also have the expansion cutscenes included
14:27.22OluapPlayer_Yes, you only got to the end of Reign of Chaos
14:27.29OluapPlayer_You have all of Frozen Throne after that
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14:33.03ImperiosI actually wonder how Blizzard are going to handle Warcraft IV if they do it
14:33.11ImperiosWould they weave it together with WoW?
14:33.29HachimanProbably and that is a scary prospect from a lore standpoint
14:34.48HachimanAlso I like how can continue to move like a ninja even after having becoming Warcraft's equivalent to a Daemon Prince and leave fucking fire-prints wherever he walks
14:34.57HachimanHow Illidan can even
14:35.17ImperiosTo look cool
14:35.52HachimanWell he is a megalomaniac
14:36.03OluapPlayer_Comparing Illidan to a Daemon Prince is very wrong, he's not that powerful hur
14:36.51HachimanI thought he was as strong as Arthas prior to his transformation and became stronger than him post-transformation
14:37.12ImperiosArthas pre-LK is not that powerful either
14:37.16Wormy_https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-god-emperor-of-mankind-palpatine-switch-consciousness.208722/
14:38.00HachimanPalpatine goes insane and his mind is destroyed
14:39.30Wormy_Or, he becomes a chaos god, which I find more fun.
14:39.58HachimanThe God-Emperor is an immortal physical deity who can support the weight of an entire interstellar civilisation upon his mind and simultaneously keep Daemons from overrunning Terra, Palpatine is but a mere mortal Sith Lord
14:40.45HachimanPalpatine would make a good Chaos Lord of Tzeentch however
14:41.38Wormy_Because the God Emperor is in the future, he probably has Palpatine's essence
14:42.27Wormy_Doesn't the God Emperor have the combined power of all of Earth's psychic users from before he was born or something
14:42.43Wormy_Or all of humanity's
14:43.08AdmiralPandaThe Emperor was basically everyone important ever in Earth's history
14:43.23AdmiralPandawell, the ones that won anywa
14:43.25AdmiralPandaanyway
14:43.32HachimanThe God-Emperor is the culmination of the souls of many psychic shamans whose sacrifice brought him into the world
14:43.59MonetSometimes he was anonymous.
14:44.32HachimanI like to imagine the God-Emperor going through a Highlander crisis
14:46.30AdmiralPandaalrighty well pass out time for me
14:46.49Wormy_Palpatine is no mere Sith however, her could ressurect himself, conjour force storms even tear the fabbric of space into wormholes.  EU Palpatine anyway.
14:46.55Wormy_*he
14:47.26Wormy_I guess he could have unlocked the Sith magic required to cause a star to go supernova as some ancient Sith did
14:48.07HachimanYeah I feel that no Sith that existed during the time of the Galactic Empire could ever really rival the Sith Lords of old
14:49.07Wormy_Maybe, I'm not sure.  But Sidious canonically is meant to be one who unlocked most of that and understood more than anyone-else.
14:49.51Wormy_I think if Vader hadn't had lost most of his body, he would have far surpassed Sidious
14:51.15Wormy_It seems the Pre-Republic era had more advanced tech
14:52.39Wormy_And the first eras of the Republic, humans and aliens have antiquated architecture and fashion, which suggests they were primitive slaves with advanced technology, which is why it took so long for them to "modernise"
14:53.00Wormy_As they were slaves actually
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15:15.13HachimanDarth Sidious had intentionally sabotaged Darth Vader's operation in order to make it more difficult for Vader to surpass him
15:16.36HachimanThe suit was intentionally designed to be uncomfortable to wear and the synthetic skin that was grafted onto Vader following the incident on Mustafar was intended to also cause him discomfort, such as it being persistently itchy
15:17.02HachimanThe suit, paired with Vader's cybernetic augmentations, was also heavy and weighed Vader down
15:38.37Wormy_Interesting
15:39.00Wormy_imagines Vader scratching himself
15:40.24Wormy_I imagine that Vader's guilt, hate and torment also kept him under Sidious's control, I think Sidious promised him the secrets of ressurection
15:41.32HachimanYeah, plus there is nothing left for Vader to go back to following his betrayal for the Sith
15:44.09Wormy_Indeed
15:44.55Wormy_I doubt Vader alone could have kept the empire going.  He didn't have Sidious's way with words.  I don't think he was an intelligent as Sidious in that way.
15:46.57HachimanThat is why he was so easily manipulated in the first place
15:47.44HachimanHe is a great commander and strategic tactician who inflicts fear unto others, yet he is not charismatic or manipulative
15:48.02HachimanHe is a warrior more than he is a politician
15:49.01Wormy_indeed
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15:56.17CyrannianHello!
15:56.52OluapPlayer_~slap Cyrannian
15:56.52infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
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15:59.30Wormy_Hachiman:  I am of the opinion that Count Dooku was a very light sided Sith.
15:59.35Wormy_hi
15:59.55Wormy_He may have become more wicked by the end
16:00.08HachimanI do not know much of Dooku
16:00.34HachimanWhat makes you say he was light-sided?
16:01.42CyrannianUnlike most modern Sith, he was a Jedi until he was in his seventies or something, so he probably kept some of that goodieness
16:04.21Wormy_Dooku was disgusted with the corruption of the Jedi Council, they way they handled the Mandalorians.
16:04.29Wormy_He could see it
16:04.54Wormy_Then in Attack of the Clones he gave the Jedi the option to surrender, I'm sure I remember this
16:05.05HachimanSo he became a Sith Lord due to disagreements with the acts and justifications of the Jedi?
16:05.25HachimanAnd yes I am fairly certain he gave a surrender option
16:07.37Wormy_Count Dooku practically gave away his master's secret
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16:08.16MonetHello
16:08.34DrodoEmpireHello again
16:10.38Wormy_hi
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16:48.26dromHello
17:06.59Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Clash_of_the_Two_Orders#Chapter_Seven:_Apprehending_the_Crimelord - New chaptetr
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18:25.43OluapPlayerGood god this internet today
18:27.00dromHello again Monet
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18:27.11dromThis bloody tutorial
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18:29.10Monetdrom: Hello
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18:35.41dromDrodoEmpire: honk
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18:55.50ExternalI'm getting lazy. I need an idea.
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19:03.54OluapPlayerThis afternoon is being an absolute ass
19:05.09ExternalEh? What's wrong?
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19:06.58Technobliteratorhis internet, it appears
19:07.00Technobliteratorhi xho
19:07.01OluapPlayertop dunce
19:07.05OluapPlayerWhere were you all day yesterday
19:07.10XhoDoing stuff
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19:13.02OluapPlayerMe
19:13.36CyraBotStill can't get spore to work and it's freezing my desktop
19:14.09OluapPlayerI was asking if you wanted to continue our rp since my internet has gone back to normal for the time being
19:14.34CyraBotSure, logging back on now
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19:15.05GhelaeHello.
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19:20.45HachimanWell I just finished the Warcraft III cutscene and cinematic video
19:21.01HachimanI can see why Warcraft III was well-received
19:23.30OluapPlayerNow you know enough about the lore to be angry at WoW
19:23.37OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrpieUGgQQQ now, have goofy credits
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19:25.46HachimanThat fucking Hydralisk
19:30.35HachimanOh God
19:30.40HachimanA metal concert
19:33.38Hachiman"And this one time, at bandit camp..."
19:33.39HachimanClever
19:34.50TechnobliteratorAll Blizzard games were well received once upon a time
19:36.23HachimanWhat the fuck, StarCraft units in Warcraft III
19:36.40HachimanThere are Zerg and Terran Marines hur
19:37.31OluapPlayerYes, there are marines and zerg coded in Warcraft 3, as well as orc marines
19:37.48HachimanJesus
19:38.28ExternalWhy would there be Starcraft units in Warcraft?
19:38.51dromStarcraft is one of Blizzard's works
19:38.52DrodoEmpire<PROTECTED>
19:38.53dromso why not?
19:39.43TechnobliteratorExternal, because of the map editor
19:39.49TechnobliteratorThey wanted to allow people to throw those in there
19:41.36ExternalMhm.
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20:03.19Vincent20100I finally have some money to spare on games!
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20:08.14dromTesting the text formatting is fun!
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20:23.10Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:203810 - Take a look
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20:26.23The_Randomness:o
20:33.24dromI never use mobile to read wikia pages anyway
20:35.05CyrannianImpyDroid: http://dulfy.net/2015/07/22/swtor-togruta-character-customizations-guide/ - Errmagerd, look what species they added to swtor
20:35.55The_Randomness:o
20:36.41HachimanI thought Togruta were already in SWTOR
20:37.05CyrannianOnly recently as a playable species
20:44.32Wormy_awayWhy Do We Take Selfies? - 8-Bit Philosophy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMxm-aXAwc4
20:52.53The_RandomnessWatched it, but I still don't get it.
20:53.37GhelaeThose new infoboxes look easy enough to make. If anybody cares, I'm sure we could convert them all without any problems.
20:55.54CyrannianIndeed
20:58.33dromEy Cyrannian, what's yo name in SWTOR?
21:04.29Wormy_awayI have nothing against conversion, though I'm not a fan of mobile wikia
21:09.13HachimanNeither am I
21:09.22HachimanIt is like Wikia forgot that PCs exist
21:11.47Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23i8BzhxCy8 John Petrucci in a nutshell
21:13.49Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11887939_10206081332546324_8999921063884547107_n.jpg?oh=c09c297444794fbe4bda2f41b14d30cb&oe=5638C3BD
21:16.09DrodoEmpireayy lmao
21:17.08Hachimanolol
21:17.17HachimanTalk about illegal aliens
21:17.26DrodoEmpirehah
21:21.35The_RandomnessNow I'm just imagining the picture with the ancient aliens guy's face replaced with Donald Trump or someone
21:21.50Hachimanolol
21:27.13XhoAYYYY REPUBLICANS
21:27.57Wormy_awayCyrannian, Hachiman, drom:  Yoda listening to a self-help tape https://youtu.be/C-hFh35U3go?t=13m27s
21:34.14Cyranniandrom: Well my main guy is "Venatorius"
21:35.41dromI see.
21:35.52dromI'll be adding you soonish
21:38.41Wormy_awayStrange
21:38.55Wormy_awaySomeone sent me an email to go to catmmo.com in SWTOR
21:39.06Wormy_awayNot going there lol
21:45.15Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11831729_703970273037129_3283662794103345080_n.jpg?oh=a4664347edc9d1db6201cb64a03a1cfd&oe=5642AB19
21:53.50XhoBrutal
22:00.49OluapPlayerfagit
22:01.21Hachiman"Condoms don't really guarantee protection during sex. One of my niggas was wearing one and got shot by the girl's boyfriend."
22:02.12dromfucks sake
22:03.09dromWormy_away: fawks http://i.imgur.com/MBxDyVb.jpg
22:04.08Wormy_awayCyrannian:  I might have disconned
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22:06.47Wormy_Cyrannian:  Might have to reload
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22:10.23HachimanSo apparently scientists have discovered the site of one of the last ever lakes to have existed on Mars prior to its full transformation into a desert world
22:12.04HachimanThe lake was presumably 3.6 billion years old, with the solar system itself being 4.6 billion years old, and all that is left of it is a rather large basin
22:14.20HachimanDue to the composition of salts and other materials remaining in the remnants of the basin, scientists have partially concluded that not only was this one of the last sizeable bodies of water to exist on the Martian surface, but also one of the last potentially habitable watery locations prior to the death of Mars
22:17.00OluapPlayerMars - >mfw too hot even for water to handle
22:17.12Hachimanolol
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22:42.22dromMonet: http://i.imgur.com/MBxDyVb.jpg
22:46.35MonetSly, but also cute
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23:49.42The_Randomnessyes
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