00:10.49 | drom_ | The second's already taken |
00:11.04 | drom_ | Anyway this amauses me https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/3gkg32/you_make_the_best_fucking_candy/ |
00:17.02 | Tek0516 | drom: lol |
00:20.29 | drom_ | Appearently there was recently a robbing against a local grocery store, but spite the robbers armed and dangerous, bunch of people chased after them and shouted "Theif! Theif! Theif!". One of the robbers was caught by a private man only in pants and socks. |
00:20.34 | DrodoEmpire | test |
00:30.22 | drom_ | Wormy_away Tek0516: Just FYI: I've released the album http://imgur.com/gallery/qVLNH |
00:31.43 | Tek0516 | Gave you your upvote. :P |
00:34.07 | drom_ | To the frontpage shall we go! |
00:35.32 | Tek0516 | https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561198082725686/?cc=ca Well this made me depressed. And it doesn't even include my DLC purchases (damn you Paradox). |
01:42.48 | Wormy_away | such troll http://imgur.com/gallery/WYlGx01 |
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11:13.55 | Hachiman | Hai |
11:25.10 | AdmiralPanda | hai |
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11:33.18 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
11:33.27 | Hachiman | Hai |
11:33.50 | Monet | hi |
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11:35.26 | Wormy_ | hi |
11:36.05 | Monet | Hello |
11:49.10 | Wormy_ | Tolkien villains too big for the big screen http://imgur.com/gallery/t66Mn |
11:52.27 | AdmiralPanda | das a big fuckin dragon |
11:52.32 | Hachiman | I remember Ancalagon |
11:52.39 | AdmiralPanda | I'm kinda sad to say I haven't thrown a bigger one at a D&D party yet |
11:53.13 | Hachiman | Glaurung makes Smaug look like a bitch |
12:05.05 | Monet | Angalacon the balck: Fate: Killed by a bunch of eagles and one of Arwenâs ancestors, Earendil. It is unknown how he did it, as Ancalagon is REALLY, REALLY BIG. |
12:05.45 | Wormy_ | I remember in a Star Wars comic, this massive Leviathan which stretched into the distance over a mountain range. |
12:06.23 | Wormy_ | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Leviathan_(creature) |
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12:09.19 | Monet | Hello |
12:09.27 | Monet | Wormy_:Those blister traps ere eugh |
12:09.42 | Wormy_ | indeed |
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12:12.37 | Hachiman | Fucking internet |
12:13.07 | AdmiralPanda | hur |
12:13.26 | OluapPlayer | fuckin u |
12:13.58 | AdmiralPanda | get a room |
12:17.26 | Monet | Sith alchemy can certainly be nasty. |
12:33.35 | Wormy_ | I'm interested in the art style of Hundred Years of Darkness and Great Schism era |
12:33.51 | Wormy_ | Like 40K, it looks anachronistic |
12:34.31 | AdmiralPanda | 40k isn't really anachronistic, the ships are deliberately designed to look like cathedrals |
12:34.53 | Wormy_ | Well you know what I mean, gothic |
12:35.22 | Wormy_ | It certainly isn't an aesthetic modern designers look for the next smart phone |
12:36.00 | AdmiralPanda | but one they totally should |
12:36.21 | Wormy_ | Yeah I'm tired of this "Everything is an Iphone" trope |
12:38.15 | AdmiralPanda | I just think gothic is a cool style, more things should be gothic |
12:38.27 | Wormy_ | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Exodus1.jpg http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Schism3.jpg http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Battle_of_Corbos_JMGD.jpg |
12:38.32 | Wormy_ | What do you think of this? |
12:38.57 | Hachiman | Gothic style is <3 |
12:39.22 | AdmiralPanda | I think people need to stop stealing their ship design from the Eldar |
12:39.32 | Wormy_ | Strangely the Pre-Republic era doesn't have this aesthetic, maybe because humanity and other races were slaves so had multiple levels of tech |
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12:47.32 | Hachiman | http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/Mormon_Jesus.swf Brilliant |
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12:57.22 | Hachiman | Hai Imp |
13:01.00 | Monet | Hello |
13:02.07 | OluapPlayer | hi |
13:02.29 | Imperios | Hiya |
13:02.48 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman Monet: http://cs14108.vk.me/c540101/v540101305/232f5/zTeVcdgcLoQ.jpg |
13:03.04 | OluapPlayer | hur |
13:05.34 | Hachiman | ayy limo |
13:06.49 | Wormy_ | This is interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned_house_horizon |
13:07.11 | Wormy_ | An ancient culture would burn down their settlements every 80 years and built on-top them |
13:07.40 | Wormy_ | For 4000 years it seems |
13:08.35 | Hachiman | Huh |
13:08.40 | Hachiman | Seems weird |
13:09.49 | OluapPlayer | How emo |
13:13.54 | Hachiman | During the Siege of Caffa in 1346, the Mongol armies of the Golden Horde unleashed a weapon of war utterly unmatched in terms of its consequence; Yersinia pestis. They reportedly started loading diseased corpses into catapults and launched them over the city walls." |
13:14.18 | Hachiman | That is both clever and fucking brutal I must say |
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13:17.35 | Jepardi | Hi |
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13:19.44 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: "During the Siege of Caffa in 1346, the Mongol armies of the Golden Horde unleashed a weapon of war utterly unmatched in terms of its consequence; Yersinia pestis. They reportedly started loading diseased corpses into catapults and launched them over the city walls."" |
13:20.08 | AdmiralPanda | that was a thing even before then |
13:20.15 | AdmiralPanda | like, the romans did that |
13:20.34 | AdmiralPanda | also it was standard practice for the French |
13:20.58 | Imperios | Aye |
13:21.00 | Imperios | Biological warfare |
13:21.16 | Hachiman | Of course the French would resort to such disgusting means of warfare |
13:21.53 | AdmiralPanda | pretty sure it was standard practice everywhere else, I just know for certain the French did it |
13:22.37 | Hachiman | Alexander the Great also somehow managed to reshape an island into a peninsula |
13:22.49 | AdmiralPanda | lots of people with spades? |
13:24.00 | Hachiman | He had his armies construct a kilometer-long land bridge to link the island of Tyre - think archaic Phoenician prison-fortress - back into Eurasia by hand |
13:25.33 | AdmiralPanda | oh right that, I read it the wrong way around |
13:25.56 | AdmiralPanda | for some reason I was thinking he cut the peninsula off into an island, but yeah I know about Tyre |
13:30.10 | AdmiralPanda | so my canadian friend went fishing on the weekend, and the salmon were jumping up the river so he parked his boat near a waterfall and three salmon landed in the boat on the way up |
13:30.58 | Hachiman | olol |
13:31.27 | Wormy_ | How has he not vapourised and precipitated back on Canada? |
13:32.16 | AdmiralPanda | ? |
13:32.31 | AdmiralPanda | I presume you're talking about the rash of hot weather up there |
13:32.42 | AdmiralPanda | to which I answer he's not currently IN canada |
13:32.51 | Wormy_ | I presumed he was where you lived lol |
13:33.02 | Wormy_ | *live |
13:33.19 | AdmiralPanda | I have a few english friends who live nowhere near me |
13:33.31 | AdmiralPanda | and a russian one too, so don't know why you'd presume that |
13:33.50 | Hachiman | Because Canadians in Australiaa |
13:34.00 | Hachiman | Australia even |
13:34.29 | Hachiman | Too hot and exotic for them to thrive in such conditions thus they dissipate and their vapours return to their homeland |
13:34.37 | AdmiralPanda | http://cheezburger.com/8549410048/funny-web-comics-role-playing-has-changed-for-the-worse |
13:34.46 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
13:35.06 | Hachiman | hur |
13:35.27 | Wormy_ | Panda, Hachi: http://funnyjunk.com/Weather+gauge/funny-pictures/4940632 |
13:36.11 | AdmiralPanda | seen that before, didn't really find it funny |
13:36.27 | AdmiralPanda | accurate in a caricature way, sure, but not really funny |
13:36.54 | Hachiman | Also you may already be aware but transforming their landmass into an island was what the Dutch did to stave off invasion |
13:37.09 | Hachiman | And they accomplished this with many picks and many shovels |
13:37.35 | AdmiralPanda | was not aware of that |
13:37.40 | AdmiralPanda | also was not aware the dutch lived on an island |
13:45.57 | Imperios | Dutch do a lot of shit with landmass |
13:46.37 | Imperios | And when the landmass cannot be changed they just smoke weed and pretend it has changed already |
13:46.45 | Hachiman | olol |
13:47.54 | Imperios | Funny that I say that |
13:48.09 | Imperios | Because my own city is essentially the drug capital of Russia |
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14:08.36 | Technobliterator | Anyone ever backed up a Windows install? |
14:26.17 | Monet | Can't say I have |
14:30.09 | Technobliterator | Welp, looks like I'll need a flash USB |
14:30.11 | Technobliterator | bah |
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15:34.10 | Hachiman | Closed my laptop by accident |
15:36.08 | Wormy_ | Monet, Imperios, Hachiman, Technobbliterator: http://imgur.com/gallery/tuG5A |
15:38.22 | Hachiman | "An Irish Corporation: You have two cows, one of them is a horse." My sidese |
15:38.25 | Hachiman | sides even |
15:38.30 | Wormy_ | funny cuz its true http://imgur.com/gallery/r1jB5yf |
15:39.16 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/cu5mV6x |
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15:41.17 | AdmiralPanda | the australian one is so true |
15:42.58 | Hachiman | So I am going to be honest, I did something a little dumb |
15:43.20 | AdmiralPanda | why did you get Oluap pregnant? |
15:43.27 | AdmiralPanda | but seriously |
15:44.46 | Hachiman | I had a couple of Babybels - aka rounded circles made of cheese - and I let my laptop down on the rather flimsy packaging without thinking when I went to go downstairs |
15:45.01 | Hachiman | When I came back, the packaging had melted partially to the bottom of the laptop from the heat |
15:45.38 | AdmiralPanda | so basically your laptop is now partially cheese |
15:45.43 | Hachiman | Wax rather |
15:46.04 | Hachiman | Babybels are encased in wax packaging |
15:46.05 | AdmiralPanda | tbh, slightly better |
15:46.26 | AdmiralPanda | yeah I know what you're talking about, we have a different brand name for them but same basic concept |
15:46.28 | Monet | Either that or you mean the plastic wrapping the cheese and the wax comes in |
15:46.52 | Hachiman | Definitely the wax |
15:47.32 | Monet | British one is 20 years out of date. |
15:47.33 | Hachiman | I had a mini "oh shit" moment and accidentally closed the laptop as I was removing said wax |
15:47.42 | Monet | Wormy_: British one is 20 years out of date. |
15:48.23 | Monet | So we had a stint of feeding our cows sheep's brain, everyoen else was doing it too. |
15:48.52 | Hachiman | Yeah I have no idea why people were doing that |
15:49.10 | Monet | Sheep's brain has lots of protein. |
15:49.22 | Monet | Shame that some of that protein is what caused mad cow disease. |
15:49.40 | Hachiman | It is like farmers and such forgot the fact that cows are naturally herbivorous fauna and should not be exposed to meat in their diet |
15:50.25 | Wormy_ | I remember the outbreak. Having to wipe my shoes in disinfectant rugs after walking through fields, and my mum for some reason stopping me from drinking full fat milk (not that it makes a difference) |
15:51.16 | Wormy_ | And huge piles of animal carcasses on the news being burned (or was that another disease) |
15:51.48 | Hachiman | I think that may have been a different disease |
15:52.00 | Monet | No that was Mad Cow |
15:52.05 | Monet | It was also Foot and Mouth |
15:55.51 | Monet | "The BSE crisis led to the European Union banning exports of British beef with effect from March 1996; the ban would last for 10 years before it was finally lifted on 1 May 2006" ah |
15:59.23 | Wormy_ | I find prions scary and weird. |
16:00.15 | Wormy_ | Its an infectious agent even simpler than a virus, but replicates by folding proteins into prions, and can evolve in a sense. |
16:00.29 | Wormy_ | It has no DNA, its much simpler |
16:00.43 | Monet | Eh. We may have been a larger culprit but its even harder to buy the growth hormone-filled American beef. |
16:00.48 | Wormy_ | Don't eat brain tissue. |
16:02.53 | AdmiralPanda | don't eat brain tissue that hasn't been properly prepared anyway |
16:02.53 | Monet | I know feeding hormones are less wierd than feeding brains or bonemeal, but I've never been a fan of the American battery ranches. |
16:02.53 | Hachiman | No wonder zombies are idiots |
16:03.18 | AdmiralPanda | anyway it's 2am so pass out time |
16:03.44 | Hachiman | I refuse to eat battery food on the grounds that it is unethical and the fact you can taste it is battery by the lack of quality |
16:04.51 | Monet | You won't like this then https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/18/5e/08/185e088cbc8eadc4e1259fdd16df49ca.jpg |
16:05.43 | Monet | http://alphagenetics.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/7/6/14764964/7483051_orig.jpg presenting the Belgian Blue, a cow bred to provide large amounts of low-fat beef. |
16:06.53 | Hachiman | That's fucking awful |
16:07.25 | Monet | I myself am disturbed |
16:07.48 | Hachiman | That makes me feel sick |
16:08.32 | Wormy_ | I would eat vat-grown meat though. |
16:08.47 | Hachiman | I do not mind the idea of selectively breeding domestic animals but that is horrendous |
16:08.51 | Wormy_ | Then again I may never really like it. |
16:09.08 | OluapPlayer | Cow is too /fit/ |
16:09.28 | Wormy_ | That isn't healthy, must be bad on its organs and joints. |
16:10.08 | Monet | What's happening is these cows don't produce a protein called myostatin, an inhibitor of muscle cell growth. |
16:11.12 | Hachiman | I cannot imagine an artificially-influenced physiology such as that being beneficial to the health of the cow at all |
16:12.37 | Monet | Caesarian Sections are more common amongst Blues for one. |
16:12.40 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Gain-cattle |
16:12.48 | OluapPlayer | hur |
16:14.04 | Hachiman | I can imagine Adeptus Astartes suffering from induced myostatin deficiency |
16:14.40 | Monet | http://www.tynybrynfarms.com/photogallery/Tims%20BB%20Calf%20July-2003.JPG here's a calf |
16:15.01 | Hachiman | That is cute but it also disturbs me |
16:16.46 | Monet | Cute calf with thighs that could cave in someone's front door lol. |
16:18.45 | Wormy_ | There's a breed of goats which faint when they hear a loud noise, sparking a chain reaction |
16:18.45 | Monet | One more apparent side effect is these cattle require more sustinence per day. |
16:18.52 | Imperios | To ease the depression here is this |
16:19.04 | Imperios | http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1439396201609.jpg |
16:19.57 | Wormy_ | scalies |
16:20.30 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/6Cgww6M |
16:21.26 | Wormy_ | Star Wars pics http://imgur.com/gallery/9NEaY |
16:22.18 | Monet | Is that an armorued dewback? |
16:22.45 | Hachiman | That Sith Lord |
16:22.56 | Monet | TotallyNotRevan |
16:23.37 | Monet | http://i.imgur.com/VbkZ9fR.jpg "Newest batch of Imperial officers take lessons in style from the Aetheral Talon Body." |
16:24.23 | Imperios | That looks pretty royal |
16:24.43 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Read top comment train http://imgur.com/gallery/TWohR "When people are nice...they are the best...." |
16:24.48 | Imperios | That metallic Stormtrooper armour looks fancy |
16:24.53 | Imperios | IS that for that Stormtrooper lady? |
16:25.43 | Wormy_ | Which one? |
16:25.56 | Imperios | http://i.imgur.com/K7iTvvR.jpg |
16:27.26 | Wormy_ | "If they REALLY want to make fans happy, they will make these Stormtroopers hit almost every shot just to shut everyone up." "Movie lasts 16 minutes." |
16:27.35 | Monet | Slightly mroe seriously, I wonder if Abrams took inspiration form the Royal Navy with that coat. |
16:27.45 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/997/012/651.jpg Your pic reminded me of this |
16:28.53 | Hachiman | Monet: Well the Galactic Empire took inspiration from Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany |
16:29.12 | Wormy_ | With British voices |
16:29.24 | Imperios | And a dash of the Soviet Union |
16:29.31 | Monet | Hachiman: hmm yeah I guess I can see an SS vibe in that greatcoat |
16:29.38 | Imperios | Wormy_: http://assets.elleuk.com/gallery/12661/1391164887-gwendoline-christie-games-ofthrones-season-3-premiere-2013-gty__large.jpg That lady |
16:29.57 | Wormy_ | I see |
16:31.50 | Monet | Inspired by Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan -> Every officer speaks with an RP accent. |
16:32.01 | Imperios | Because evil accent |
16:32.14 | Wormy_ | Hachi: http://imgur.com/gallery/BSjXaDA |
16:32.22 | Monet | Imperios: Aye |
16:32.25 | Hachiman | Note that the factions that inspired the Galactic Empire were imperialist or dictatorships |
16:32.45 | Imperios | Hachiman Monet: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1439361755252.png Speaking of Nazis |
16:33.04 | Monet | Hachiman: Yeah I'm counting a hint of British lol |
16:33.19 | Monet | Because the SUn Never Sets on the British Empire. |
16:33.25 | Wormy_ | indeed, the British Empire did bad things but it was nowhere near like them two |
16:33.52 | Imperios | Britain was much more successful than both though |
16:33.56 | Hachiman | Imperios: Scandinavian neckbeards |
16:34.08 | Hachiman | Neckbjards |
16:34.11 | Wormy_ | Indeed, and what a legacy |
16:34.12 | Monet | Okay looking at these pictures I do have one teeny-tiny worry. |
16:34.39 | Monet | Most of the pictures are of a desert planet that's looks disturbingly light Tattooine |
16:34.52 | Wormy_ | Actually one thing I am proud is that the British Empire destroyed itself in fighting against the Germans and Japanese rather than seeking appeasement |
16:35.07 | Monet | Bad as the prequals were, I *loved* all the varied places. |
16:37.35 | Monet | I can pardon the original trilogy because of the technology of the time |
16:37.57 | Monet | So I hope they're holding back on a number of locations |
16:39.13 | Wormy_ | Sorry if I've come off patriotic hur |
16:39.47 | Imperios | Since when is that a bad thing? |
16:40.40 | Hachiman | Because patriotism implies you support the justification or ignorance of the past atrocities of a state |
16:40.47 | Wormy_ | Well there are certainly things I do admire like the spread of English language, industrial revolution, road construction and so on. |
16:41.29 | Monet | Wormy's patriotism was fine - He's proud of his nation but he knew we did shit that 'were not proud of, accept and want to move on from. |
16:41.37 | Wormy_ | it helped seed democracy |
16:42.12 | Imperios | That's what we call cotton wool jacket patriotism |
16:42.17 | Imperios | (that was to Hachiman) |
16:42.21 | Wormy_ | On the other hand, the British Empire created concentration camps, practised eugenics and violently cracked down on rebellion. |
16:42.45 | Imperios | Will Xho come |
16:43.13 | Wormy_ | By the early 20th century however, not even the British were fond of this, after a crackdown in India ione British general was stripped of his rank and sent home |
16:43.40 | Wormy_ | Only decades before he would have been celebrated |
16:46.07 | OluapPlayer | I hope so |
16:49.42 | Wormy_ | I hope the British spaceport will open us up to space and possibly asteroid mining. The sun can never set in space |
16:50.36 | Hachiman | Aye |
16:50.46 | Hachiman | Asteroid mining would be wonderful to see in my lifetime |
16:51.32 | Monet | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31711083 |
16:52.00 | Imperios | Wormy_: Can you grow tea in space though |
16:52.33 | Monet | Don't forget the Skylon project. |
16:52.37 | Wormy_ | Bring plenty of tea pags, or a hydrponics lab |
16:52.49 | Wormy_ | *bags |
16:53.21 | Monet | Britian would surely become an aviatiion leader once again. |
16:53.59 | Wormy_ | Hachi: One company has already put up a a probe to prospect Near Earth asteroids. And NASA wants to capture one and drag it between Earth and Moon |
16:54.12 | Wormy_ | Or satellite |
16:54.33 | Wormy_ | We are becoming leaders of the CGI industry! |
16:54.54 | Wormy_ | And gold mining will soon be profitable in Scotland... |
16:55.10 | Wormy_ | oh but they will probably secede soon |
16:55.25 | Hachiman | inb4 the United Kingdom houses the most powerful space navy |
16:55.50 | Monet | I don't know if an indepndant Scotland will be able to fund a spaceport. |
16:56.26 | Hachiman | Britain will colonise Mars and then we will have to deal with Martian American revolutionaries vying for independence |
16:56.52 | Imperios | Hachiman: Not Martian, Muhrtian |
16:57.11 | Hachiman | Murs |
16:58.16 | Hachiman | I wonder if this means Martian cowboys and outlaws will be a thing for the intrastellar frontier |
16:58.52 | Imperios | Actually |
16:59.04 | Imperios | Is early human history in SporeWiki even documented |
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17:00.19 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:01.51 | Wormy_ | Hi |
17:02.10 | Wormy_ | We are discussing the rise of a new British space empire and its problems with Martian Americans |
17:02.58 | Ghelae | Are these Martian Americans Americans who got to Mars before the British could claim it? |
17:03.31 | Ghelae | Or did "Native Martians" not have the same ring to it? |
17:04.50 | Wormy_ | They are British who became analagous to the Americans via a war for independence |
17:05.03 | Wormy_ | But there might be Native Martians too |
17:05.06 | Monet | Hachiman: "inb4 the United Kingdom houses the most powerful space navy" < We might have to compete with the US Space Navy but yeah I want this to happen lol |
17:05.13 | Ghelae | I see. |
17:05.27 | Monet | Her majesty's Roal Navy will cruise though the stars! |
17:05.32 | Wormy_ | We will have to compete with the Russo-Chinese space Empire too |
17:05.58 | Hachiman | China and Russia becoming a single state would be terrifying |
17:08.23 | Ghelae | If we made sure the whole Commonwealth remained close British allies then, at least in population count, we might be comparable. |
17:09.02 | Hachiman | True |
17:09.47 | Imperios | Wouldn't work |
17:09.53 | Imperios | The Chinese are actually competent unlike us |
17:10.46 | Ghelae | How about a Russo-Korean Space Empire? |
17:11.22 | Imperios | Almost happened in the 1900s |
17:11.53 | Imperios | The Korean Empire almost became a Russian client before the Japanese came |
17:11.56 | Imperios | Would be actually cool |
17:12.00 | Hachiman | kek |
17:12.16 | Imperios | But seriously it'd be more like Russia with the autonomous Korean Republic |
17:12.30 | Hachiman | A unified Korea would be great to see |
17:12.36 | Imperios | Whereas Russia + China would be Greater China with the Russian Autonomous Region |
17:13.06 | Ghelae | Combine the two to get Greater China with the Russian Autonomous Region, in turn containing the Korean Repubic. |
17:13.15 | Imperios | Epic |
17:13.24 | Imperios | Shouldn't we also add the Stans? |
17:13.28 | Ghelae | Sure. |
17:13.37 | Imperios | Central Asia is gud |
17:13.44 | Imperios | Also many Russians, Koreans AND Chinese there |
17:13.44 | Hachiman | fuk off |
17:14.04 | OluapPlayer | Unified Korea under the role of the grorious reader |
17:14.05 | Hachiman | Central Asia needs its own independence from European and American outsiders |
17:14.10 | OluapPlayer | First the Koreas, next the world |
17:14.32 | Imperios | Central Asia should be united under Kazakhstan in that case |
17:14.36 | Imperios | Since they're our bros anyway |
17:15.16 | Ghelae | Pakistan is presumably not going to be amongst the Stans of Greater China. Whether they remain part of the Commonwealth or seperate may depend on how relations with India are at the time. |
17:16.23 | Imperios | The Commonwealth's spaceships would actually fire Pakistani suicide bombers as torpedoes |
17:16.32 | Hachiman | olol |
17:17.12 | Imperios | Brits get missiles, Indians watch Pakistani people die and Russians and Chinese are mostly infidels |
17:17.15 | Imperios | So everyone is happy |
17:18.08 | Hachiman | I can only wonder what this would mean for Japan considering the existence of superstates such as Greater China with Russian Autonomous Region - which in turn contains the Korean Republic - and a more pro-active Commonwealth of Nations |
17:18.29 | OluapPlayer | shut up weeaboo no one gives a shi 4 ur crap country |
17:18.53 | Hachiman | Well consider Japan is a technological and industrial figurehead hur |
17:20.44 | Imperios | Korea invades Japan |
17:20.49 | Imperios | It will be glorious |
17:22.01 | Hachiman | Talk about revenge |
17:22.39 | Imperios | *levenge |
17:23.24 | Hachiman | olol |
17:23.39 | Hachiman | taruku about levenju |
17:23.50 | Imperios | That'd be Japanese |
17:23.57 | Imperios | Korean would be |
17:24.02 | Imperios | Lemme use my new Korean skills |
17:25.08 | OluapPlayer | GRORIOUS READER GRORIOUS GRORIOUS GRORIOUS |
17:25.09 | OluapPlayer | there |
17:25.25 | Imperios | Tareuk abawoteu laevenjeu |
17:25.36 | Ghelae | Assuming Korea's invasion attempts aren't spoiled by typhoons... we will have Japan as a region inside the Korean Republic within the Russian Autonomous Region as part of Greater China. |
17:25.48 | Imperios | OluapPlayeR: Funny thing is, one of the first words we learned at Korean lessons was "comrade" |
17:25.52 | Wormy_ | Could Japan defend itself successfully from China? Given its large navy and advanced tech I'm willing to suppose it could unless China completely overwhelmed them (not counting Western nations) |
17:26.01 | OluapPlayer | COMRADE READER |
17:26.11 | Imperios | And then we were immediately advised not to use it in presence of South Koreans |
17:26.14 | Hachiman | I doubt China could manage to invade and occupy Japan |
17:26.51 | Imperios | Yes but only because Chinese military is not very strong |
17:27.15 | Hachiman | Japan has a very expensive and valued standing military |
17:27.24 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, will you be able to make a new UNOC sniper soon-ish? |
17:27.39 | Hachiman | Probably |
17:27.52 | Technobliterator | This is good |
17:28.28 | Technobliterator | drom, how well did you say Spore worked on Linux again? |
17:28.56 | OluapPlayer | By that he means no |
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17:29.30 | Jepardi | Hi |
17:29.36 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:29.39 | Hachiman | Hai |
17:30.10 | Technobliterator | hi |
17:30.17 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/cMP4ooI.jpg Oh hi Horus |
17:30.28 | Technobliterator | I've double checked this PC so many times now |
17:30.29 | Hachiman | olol |
17:30.34 | Technobliterator | just searching for stuff I need to backup |
17:31.19 | Technobliterator | btw |
17:31.32 | Monet | OlaupPLayer: Plz no! |
17:31.38 | Technobliterator | Blizzard are considering making Warcraft IV |
17:31.49 | Technobliterator | Right after StarCraft II's final expansion is done |
17:36.59 | OluapPlayer | http://41.media.tumblr.com/d47296051b5c9332a3a997c91a5a4315/tumblr_nsxokzMcha1uqag2fo1_500.png Hitler's secret weapon |
17:37.15 | Imperios | Hallelujah |
17:37.36 | Hachiman | Fucking lolis |
17:39.32 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/UvXCVMb.png |
17:39.58 | Imperios | Bullshit |
17:40.02 | Imperios | Everyone knows space is Asian |
17:40.21 | Imperios | Because it is glorious like our leader |
17:42.30 | Ghelae | The colour of the universe is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cosmic_latte so make of that what you will. |
17:43.31 | Hachiman | I would like to see a WW2 game set in the Pacific theatre |
17:43.42 | Hachiman | Rather than in Europe as they nearly always are |
17:43.43 | OluapPlayer | What |
17:43.45 | OluapPlayer | How |
17:43.52 | Technobliterator | I would rather not see a WW2 game again |
17:44.04 | OluapPlayer | Why would the universe be white |
17:44.20 | Hachiman | Why can it not be white |
17:44.32 | OluapPlayer | Because space is pitch black |
17:44.51 | Ghelae | Who are you to tell the universe it shouldn't be white? |
17:45.01 | Ghelae | More seriously, it's actually the average colour of all the stars. |
17:45.01 | OluapPlayer | Someone with eyes who is not colour bloind |
17:45.04 | OluapPlayer | blind even |
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17:45.15 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:45.28 | The_Randomness | Hello |
17:45.38 | Monet | The "colour of space" is a bit misleading. IIRC, itsm ore like "the median colour of every light source in the observable universe" |
17:45.38 | Hachiman | A WW2 game set in the Pacific theatre that plays like Far Cry or Red Dead: Redemption would be glorious |
17:45.42 | OluapPlayer | But that's just the overall colour of matter |
17:45.57 | OluapPlayer | And only 5% of the universe is composed of matter |
17:46.09 | Ghelae | Yes, and everything else is transparent. |
17:46.17 | OluapPlayer | PITCH BLACK |
17:46.38 | Ghelae | It's only black because there's no light there. Which is basically the definition of black, true. |
17:46.51 | Hachiman | If it was pitch black you could not see anything in it |
17:47.05 | OluapPlayer | I'm humoured by the fact the previously proposed colour was green |
17:47.30 | OluapPlayer | You don't see a lot of green stars out there |
17:47.31 | Monet | "black is not a colour, it is the absence of colour" |
17:47.38 | OluapPlayer | Or green stars at all for that matter |
17:47.49 | Imperios | Hachiman: Kamikaze simulator |
17:48.00 | Hachiman | How insensitive hur |
17:48.13 | Hachiman | There was more to the Pacific theatre than just Japan |
17:48.16 | OluapPlayer | That already exists, it's called Demoman |
17:48.18 | Wormy_ | The universe is actually beige in colour |
17:48.21 | Ghelae | The peak wavelength of light emitted from the sun is a blue-green. But because we see all of the other light it emits we just see it as yellow-white. |
17:48.40 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_latte |
17:48.47 | OluapPlayer | That was already posted |
17:48.57 | Wormy_ | ah |
17:49.15 | Ghelae | It's not only something that was already posted, it was the very topic of the discussion. |
17:49.38 | Ghelae | I'm amazed you missed it. :P |
17:49.39 | Wormy_ | lol |
17:49.41 | Imperios | Hm |
17:49.51 | OluapPlayer | Goddamn Xho is taking too long to get online today |
17:49.59 | Imperios | How often are games about the Eastern Front made outside of Russia? |
17:50.00 | Wormy_ | I've been away plotting the rival of our space empire |
17:50.06 | Wormy_ | *revival |
17:50.09 | Hachiman | Not very |
17:50.13 | The_Randomness | Could someone explain to me what the point of contention here is? |
17:50.21 | OluapPlayer | Killing you |
17:50.29 | Wormy_ | Piracy is how we will do it! |
17:50.37 | Imperios | I remember Relic making a game about the Eastern Front |
17:50.47 | Ghelae | The_Randomness: The colour of space. Is it beige, black, or red white and blue (in the style of the Union Flag)? |
17:50.50 | Imperios | It was hated in Russia |
17:50.56 | Wormy_ | Empires are founded on pirates raiding other empires. All we need are space pirates to raid the ISS and claim it is ours |
17:51.13 | Hachiman | The Western Front is a more popular topic for WW2 games in Europe and the US |
17:51.17 | Wormy_ | Who could stop up |
17:51.21 | Ghelae | i.e. the United Kingdom flag. Bloody Americans and their stealing the concept of "unions" from us. |
17:51.22 | Wormy_ | *us |
17:51.45 | The_Randomness | It's obviously red, white, and blue. Those all count as one color, right? |
17:52.28 | Ghelae | It is one colour indeed, and that colour is British. |
17:52.41 | Ghelae | Or Russo-Koreo-Japanese-Chinese. |
17:52.46 | OluapPlayer | Ah yes, my favorite colour of the rainbow |
17:52.53 | OluapPlayer | After red, blue and yellow comes british |
17:53.28 | Imperios | Ghelae: I think that there's a lot of countries that use the British colours of the flag |
17:53.45 | Ghelae | There certainly are. |
17:53.54 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, Imperios: relevant https://youtu.be/RSnySa-4V_U?t=1m33s |
17:54.17 | Hachiman | iMPE |
17:54.21 | Hachiman | Fuck |
17:55.07 | Hachiman | Imperios: Imagine playing a WW2 action game where you are a soldier from the Philippines or India |
17:55.09 | Ghelae | However, the Franco-Dutch-Slovene space empire will be defeated by the British one early on in the next space race. |
17:55.57 | Wormy_ | The British Empire started out from buccaneers raiding the Spanish. I suggest we do the same in space. |
17:56.04 | Imperios | Hm would be interesting |
17:56.16 | Hachiman | Or a fucking Gurkha |
17:57.23 | Ghelae | Wormy_: And eventually the British Space Navy can face off against the Spanish Star Armada! |
17:58.00 | Wormy_ | The Spanish Star Armada will get lost in a spacetime anomaly |
17:58.53 | Hachiman | A WW2 game where you play a Gurkha deployed to combat the Empire of Japan on the Burmese front would be new and interesting I imagine due to the environmental and cultural differences from standard Europe-centric WW2 games |
17:59.31 | Hachiman | Plus shifting the combat from standard FPS to something more intuitive or not as explored |
18:04.09 | Hachiman | Imperios: A game with Red Dead: Redemption-style mechanics surrounding resistance fighters in the People's Republic of Manchuria - mounted bandits and such rather than actual soldiers |
18:04.46 | Imperios | Would be cool but I do not think people in America would care that much about China |
18:05.21 | Hachiman | Probably not but people rarely care much about the Western front due to how overused as a setting it is |
18:06.36 | Imperios | not the kids |
18:08.32 | Hachiman | Yes but kids are dumb and people who develop war games to appeal to the lowest common denominator do not know the meaning of effort or risk |
18:10.09 | Monet | I don't think there is much taught about what happenedi n China during WW2 |
18:10.46 | Monet | Which makes its permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council a mystery. |
18:10.57 | Monet | It held the seat even back i nthe 1950s |
18:11.40 | Hachiman | Unfortunately, much about what is taught in regards to the Pacific theatre of World War 2 is more centred on the American-Japanese conflict |
18:15.46 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: http://imgur.com/a/1rguF#0 |
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18:24.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
18:25.21 | The_Randomness | Hello |
18:38.20 | Imperios | Monet Hachiman: http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/august/Sylvanas-still.jpg So Sylvanas's new outfit looks like this |
18:38.41 | Hachiman | >tit armour |
18:38.47 | Hachiman | Fuck off WoW |
18:39.28 | Hachiman | Also those eyebrows are dumb as fuck |
18:39.41 | Monet | She's always had those eyebrows |
18:40.07 | Hachiman | Yes and they always looked dumb as fuck hur |
18:40.33 | Hachiman | Other than the boob plates I think she looks fine |
18:40.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: She is actually more clothed than she was before |
18:41.14 | Hachiman | And that is a good thing |
18:41.24 | Hachiman | It makes her look better |
18:41.55 | Hachiman | It is almost like the designers at Blizzard matured a little hur |
18:42.07 | Monet | She used to be naked in her midsection |
18:42.09 | Imperios | http://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads/monthly_06_2009/post-13181-1245165507.jpg |
18:42.15 | Imperios | Like that |
18:43.39 | Imperios | Pretty much bikini + painted on pants |
18:43.43 | Imperios | And that is it |
18:43.46 | Hachiman | Yes I saw |
18:43.51 | Hachiman | I think she looks better now |
18:44.31 | Imperios | And WoW fans are already bitching |
18:44.40 | Imperios | Because they think it is feminist propaganda |
18:44.58 | Hachiman | Oh fuck off |
18:45.19 | Wormy_ | The_Randomness: Stuff like that is why I keep lego, because whatever we build can be tailored to our interests. |
18:45.35 | Hachiman | If WoW had its way, Sylvana would be going into battle naked |
18:45.46 | Hachiman | WoW fans had their way, even |
18:45.51 | Imperios | Ya |
18:46.06 | Imperios | There is that character in WoW |
18:46.08 | Imperios | Alexstrasza |
18:46.21 | Monet | That doesn't count |
18:46.32 | Imperios | She's one of the most powerful and ancient beings in the universe and essentially governs all life on Azeroth |
18:46.49 | Imperios | As well as being one of the five most ancient dragons in Warcraft |
18:46.53 | Imperios | How she looks like in her human form? |
18:46.53 | Monet | She's got nothing rude to hide. |
18:47.06 | Wormy_ | Is Chaotic neutral the same as freely flitting about morality spectrum? |
18:47.08 | Monet | i nher dragon form anyway |
18:47.17 | Imperios | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JQf3NonM-x4/TXFp_MNd9LI/AAAAAAAAAfM/rQKpJRdMwyo/s1600/Alex.jpg OF COURSE |
18:47.22 | Imperios | True |
18:47.26 | Hachiman | Yes but she does not need armour to survive in combat due to being a FUCKING DRAGON |
18:47.30 | Imperios | True |
18:47.35 | OluapPlayer | Chaotic neutral is a complete disregard for authority |
18:47.43 | OluapPlayer | You do what you want and the others be damned |
18:47.47 | Imperios | She was also standing inside an open-air hall on the fucking North Pole |
18:47.52 | Imperios | For the majority of her appearances |
18:48.07 | Monet | To be fair to her |
18:48.08 | Hachiman | She can actually afford to be exposed while Sylvanas cannot really |
18:48.14 | Monet | She can take any form she bloody-well likes |
18:48.25 | Imperios | True |
18:48.38 | Imperios | Nozdormu and Ysera are kind of naked too as well |
18:48.59 | Imperios | http://wow.gamona.de/wp-content/gallery/cataclysm-patch-4-2-feuerlande-quests/patch_420_nozdormu_humanoid_form_01.jpg Though Nozdormu is just shirtless |
18:49.00 | Wormy_ | Well its surely the best way to be |
18:49.31 | OluapPlayer | If you're a selfish anarchist sure |
18:49.32 | Monet | http://wowfan.tiscali.cz/pic/cataclysm/news/25-08/ysera.jpg I'd say that's mroe shirtless than naked. |
18:49.36 | Wormy_ | I consider myself good but its good to sprinkle some Sith in when need be. |
18:49.58 | Hachiman | Chaotic Good then |
18:50.52 | Imperios | Deathwing has clothes but so des his dragon form |
18:50.56 | Imperios | *does |
18:51.53 | Wormy_ | I don't think I am that either, but I was watching Eastenders and Ian Beale is trying to keep the killer of his daughter (his son Bobby) a secret and is blackmailing Liam to go to Devon and never come back. In his position I would laugh in Ian's face and tell the truth |
18:52.14 | Wormy_ | And enjoy it |
18:52.22 | Wormy_ | Just when he thinks hehas won |
18:52.44 | Wormy_ | It would be an evilley but good thing to do |
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18:53.10 | OluapPlayer | Alignments are not absolutes in real life. They are made around tabletop rules |
18:53.53 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
18:54.03 | Hachiman | So there are people living in sophisticated and civilized society who genuinely believe octopodes are, or are descended from, extraterrestrial life |
18:54.30 | Wormy_ | Oh thats not close to the worst. |
18:55.11 | DrodoEmpire | There are people living in a sophisticated and civilized society who believe in homeopathy, Hachi. |
18:55.17 | Wormy_ | People also believe Fungi come from space and gave us our intelligence from eating their psychedelic contents. |
18:55.53 | Wormy_ | Check out Spirit Science on Youtube and look how many willing supporters they have. |
18:56.12 | DrodoEmpire | Living in a sophisticated and cultured place doesn't shield a person from being dumb as a sack of rocks. :p |
18:56.24 | Hachiman | "I do hope aliens invade Earth soon, Pornhub needs a new category." |
18:56.36 | Imperios | ayy lmao |
18:56.47 | Imperios | Wormy_: So essentially humans are Orks |
18:57.04 | Wormy_ | Culture is essentially a giant meme-plex, it contains rational and anti-rational ideas, some are stagnating and others progressive |
18:57.38 | Wormy_ | Is that how Orks evolved? |
18:57.50 | Wormy_ | Eating light filled vegetables? |
18:57.52 | Monet | Orks are sapient fungus |
18:58.02 | Hachiman | Orks are fungi-fauna hybrids |
18:58.23 | Wormy_ | I had no clue |
18:58.56 | Wormy_ | But then, so are these guys http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Elachi#.22Shroomies.22 |
18:59.24 | Hachiman | It really shows how narrow-minded people are to unconventional or strange aspects of the world when they consider something like the octopus, a definitive example of evolutionary adaptation to its environment, a genuine alien |
19:00.07 | Wormy_ | Agreed |
19:00.10 | Monet | Could it be the internet makes it harder to filter fact fro mfiction? |
19:00.27 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: That's a fair point |
19:00.50 | Wormy_ | Its not the internet, its a lack of intellectual conscience and critical faculty, or even willingness to learn. |
19:01.08 | OluapPlayer | Thinking octopi are aliens has nothing to do with the internet, it means you must have missed elementary school |
19:01.09 | DrodoEmpire | But people have believed in crazy shit since there have been people to believe in it. :p |
19:01.13 | Imperios | Hachiman: "Anime Is pure, sophisticated and masculine! And produced by honorary Aryans! There is no degeneracy." |
19:01.17 | Imperios | pol.avi |
19:01.26 | Hachiman | Satire |
19:01.39 | Monet | Plenty of sites and YouTube channels that devote themselves to "the truth the State does not want you to hear" and honestly, it can be hard ot work out if they're o not something or if they're just pulling stuff out their arse. |
19:01.46 | Wormy_ | We all believe in some crazy shit. I have my own hah hah |
19:02.02 | DrodoEmpire | Its a human tendency to, I suppose |
19:02.12 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: They're pulling it out of their arse. XD |
19:02.18 | OluapPlayer | You can't blame the internet for people being gullible |
19:02.21 | DrodoEmpire | I mean it just doesn't add up |
19:02.33 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
19:02.39 | DrodoEmpire | That said, its not an unhealthy attitude to be critical of the government. |
19:02.51 | DrodoEmpire | In fact its essential for modern democracy |
19:02.57 | Hachiman | Common knowledge is not helped by the fact that media sources tend to butcher reports to exclude details and specific elements of a topic in order to push their own agenda or harmfully simplify a subject |
19:03.06 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:03.22 | OluapPlayer | It's at least a third of what citizenship is based on |
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19:04.17 | Monet | Hello! |
19:04.20 | Wormy_ | hi |
19:04.29 | Hachiman | It is not that the State is hiding a majority of truths to be found, it is more the case of the mass public not actively going out to do their own research |
19:04.42 | Charles_Bot | Hey! |
19:04.56 | Monet | Its not unhealthy no, but it concerns me that we're saturated to the point where youget peopel who cosider the very *concept* of state authority as something that hinders us. |
19:05.35 | Wormy_ | The truth is, I don't think the State is holding onto much truth, they're as clueless as how to run the world and as feeble to economic and political instability as we are. |
19:06.30 | Monet | A lot of government conspiracy theories do appear to justify that governments have far mroe control than what we see o nthe surface. |
19:06.44 | Wormy_ | What I'm sayinfg is, people believe there is a NWO pulling the strings, but thats nigh impossible |
19:06.48 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:06.59 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, the government is far from superhuman |
19:07.18 | DrodoEmpire | Like you said Wormy, they're made up of people; People as shortsighted and generally incompetent as the next guy |
19:07.23 | DrodoEmpire | Or any of us. |
19:07.25 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
19:07.29 | Monet | For NWO to be a think is to imply that the tensions between Russia and America are a ruse...for what purpose though? |
19:07.39 | Monet | thing* |
19:07.42 | Hachiman | I mean Donald Trump is running for President and there are people that support him hur |
19:07.48 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
19:07.54 | DrodoEmpire | What a joke... |
19:07.59 | OluapPlayer | Who the fuck is this Donald Trump anyway |
19:08.06 | OluapPlayer | I keep seeing this name everywhere lately |
19:08.21 | Hachiman | An asshole, basically |
19:08.27 | Monet | Hachiman: I've seen the Reddit comments about him. Seems some peopel want him in the oval office to see him crash and burn as POTUS. |
19:08.50 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CL2NZUFWcAImD_p.jpg - Speaking of Trump |
19:09.09 | Wormy_ | Yes, this Trump fella and his crazy hair. |
19:09.18 | Monet | He's a quack and an asshole, but he's an attentino whore. |
19:09.20 | Wormy_ | I want to know what he is about |
19:09.23 | Hachiman | He is a real estate magnate whose fame was amplified by TV appearances and gaining a reputation as a boisterous and mildly amusing asshat |
19:09.41 | Hachiman | And he is running to be the President of the United States |
19:09.44 | Monet | The fucker's a clown basically. |
19:09.45 | Wormy_ | I hope people aren't gonna vote for him because he makes TV appearences |
19:09.52 | DrodoEmpire | He's also gone into bankruptcy like a million times or something |
19:10.09 | The_Randomness | I personally don't see Trump's campaign going much further thanks to some very impressive idiocy on his part |
19:10.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:10.28 | The_Randomness | i.e. making some very misogynistic comments and then defending them |
19:10.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah he's not going to be president... |
19:10.43 | Monet | He wants to build a wall on the Mexican Border and called all Mexicans rapists...and his popularity keeps climbing. |
19:10.55 | DrodoEmpire | I'm more concerned by his anti-Mexican rhetoric |
19:10.57 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK45v_Qm-TA I only know Donald Trump exists because of this |
19:11.01 | Wormy_ | Boris Johnson wants to run for President one day, he's a Conservative MP here and was born in the US. |
19:11.30 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Back when his hair wasn't 100% stupid |
19:11.38 | Hachiman | I would say to vote Trump as a joke but then there are people who are voting for him due to genuine political alignments |
19:12.06 | OluapPlayer | Don't underestimate joke-voting |
19:12.08 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27371673 |
19:12.15 | Monet | His status as class clown certainly makes hi mstand out more than the other more serious candidates. |
19:12.25 | OluapPlayer | Some time ago over here we had a popular TV clown who ran to be a senator |
19:12.25 | Monet | I think Jeb Bush was one of the other candidates. |
19:12.26 | OluapPlayer | He won |
19:12.33 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
19:12.49 | OluapPlayer | His slogan was "It can't get worse than it already is" |
19:13.01 | The_Randomness | lol |
19:13.18 | Hachiman | I get reminded of how Arnold Schwarzenegger managed to somehow become the Governor of California |
19:13.37 | OluapPlayer | I need to add |
19:14.01 | Monet | Remember when Impy told us an e-democracy campaign almost gave the city of St. Petersberg a pony for its coat of arms? |
19:14.33 | Hachiman | The pony Coat of Arms design was only disqualified due to copyright laws, otherwise it would have won |
19:14.55 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod |
19:15.10 | Monet | Hachiman: Hence "almost" |
19:15.12 | DrodoEmpire | Why edemocracy is a joke everyone. :p |
19:15.19 | Monet | Joke votes can be scary. |
19:15.47 | Hachiman | I am fairly certain Nigel Farage got as far as he did due to joke votes |
19:16.02 | Monet | Probably. |
19:16.08 | Hachiman | It is scary to think that there are people who voted for Farage with sincerity though |
19:16.39 | Hachiman | I cannot stand anyone who agrees with nationalists such as UKIP or the British National Party |
19:16.49 | Monet | I vaguely recall either IGN or Gamespot once held a tournament for "greatest video game villain of all time". One of the nominees was Captain Quark. |
19:16.59 | Hachiman | olol |
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19:17.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
19:17.16 | Imperios | What I know about Donald is that right-wingers are gathering around him |
19:17.22 | Monet | He defeated two opponents in the tournament I think. |
19:17.39 | Imperios | Is he like the Zhirinovsky of the United States? A crazy right-wing nut that is popular solely because he is hilarious? |
19:17.53 | Monet | Imperios: I think so. |
19:17.54 | Hachiman | Pretty much Trump in a nutshell, yes |
19:17.57 | Hachiman | That and he is rich |
19:18.23 | dino820 | hello all |
19:18.29 | Wormy_ | He reminds me of that Abbott fella from Australia |
19:18.31 | Wormy_ | hi |
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19:18.53 | OluapPlayer | God fucking damnit |
19:19.09 | OluapPlayer | The clown was the second most voted deputy in Brazil's entire history |
19:19.14 | OluapPlayer | I forgot to mention that |
19:19.51 | Monet | Hachiman: Trump is also theleading man of America's version of The Apprentice. |
19:19.55 | Hachiman | Oh God |
19:20.12 | Hachiman | Joke votes are pretty dangerous then |
19:20.27 | DrodoEmpire | I wish there were a way to outlaw them but there isn't |
19:20.31 | OluapPlayer | People voted on him as a form of protest |
19:20.34 | DrodoEmpire | There's no practically mechanism |
19:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | *practial |
19:20.46 | DrodoEmpire | *practical |
19:20.49 | DrodoEmpire | Fuck |
19:21.56 | Hachiman | Was this clown voted during the time of Brazil being a military dictatorship by chance? |
19:22.13 | OluapPlayer | He was elected in 2011 |
19:22.18 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
19:22.29 | OluapPlayer | And he's still serving as deputy |
19:22.44 | Hachiman | Guess that shows how bad the political climate is in Brazil |
19:23.09 | OluapPlayer | Well, an Impeachment against our current president was attempted this year |
19:23.15 | OluapPlayer | It didn't go anywhere though |
19:23.17 | OluapPlayer | Unfortunately |
19:23.26 | Hachiman | I remember one town, in the US I believe, elected for a cat to be its political representative |
19:23.35 | Hachiman | The townspeople actually live rather well |
19:24.00 | Monet | OluapPlayer: UKIP ended u pwith 24 seats in the European Parliament because of protest votes. |
19:24.09 | Wormy_ | Thats because cats believe we are kittens, so look after us. |
19:24.14 | OluapPlayer | I don't know what that is |
19:24.42 | Hachiman | The cat keeps a legitimate status quo and does not influence taxes |
19:24.57 | Monet | The EUropean Parliament is the EU's governmeing body. |
19:24.58 | Hachiman | So the townspeople live a rather secure life |
19:25.03 | Imperios | Hur |
19:25.05 | OluapPlayer | There is someone who acts as the legal mayor |
19:25.08 | Imperios | Our parliament is essentially /pol/ |
19:25.25 | OluapPlayer | You wouldn't think the US government would legitimately accept a cat as a town's representative |
19:25.34 | Wormy_ | If you meant UKIP, it stands for UK Independence Party. |
19:25.58 | Imperios | We have Milonov aka "EVIL GAYS CORRUPTING OUR CHILDREN" or these guys who sung in the parliament building |
19:26.19 | Wormy_ | Were they drunk singing? |
19:26.56 | Wormy_ | In Parliament the sceptre has been swung in anger a few times. |
19:26.58 | Imperios | Wormy_ Hachiman Monet: https://youtu.be/2AvLyDmpoJA?t=18 These people rule us |
19:27.03 | Imperios | OluapPlayer |
19:28.14 | Monet | In other worlds Oluap the UK's largest representative body for Europe is a party of xenophobes. |
19:28.32 | Imperios | Then there are our dissidents |
19:28.54 | OluapPlayer | Right |
19:29.06 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YAhnM0LMNg WE HATE PUTIN SO WE ARE GOING TO WAVE FLAGS OF EVERYTHING PUTIN DOES NOT LIKE |
19:29.52 | Monet | "Joke votes are no joke" should be a slogan somewhere |
19:29.57 | Imperios | Look at their flags |
19:30.08 | Imperios | The LGBT European Ukrainian American Brits |
19:30.10 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Ours are like posh squabbling school boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bhpXhxP-WU |
19:30.40 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: YES. |
19:31.07 | Imperios | I think most legislative bodies are crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHMrgwAuJ_U |
19:31.49 | Wormy_ | Imp: 1:17 |
19:32.16 | Wormy_ | No 1:10 |
19:35.04 | Wormy_ | Imperios: I bet the North Koreans used that as propaganda |
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19:50.02 | Wormy_ | funny https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/627690084431564800 |
19:51.11 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
19:51.22 | The_Randomness | wat |
19:54.04 | Wormy_ | I just read something interesting |
19:54.37 | Wormy_ | English monarchs would still claim the throne of France until 1800, despite being kicked out centuries before. |
19:56.17 | ImpyDroid | hon |
19:56.40 | ImpyDroid | Is Elizabeth II still the Empress of India BTW? |
19:56.50 | DrodoEmpire | *Very* convoluted inheritance claims... :p |
19:56.54 | Wormy_ | I'll look it up |
19:58.07 | Wormy_ | No, but her father was. |
19:59.09 | ImpyDroid | Right |
20:00.25 | Wormy_ | I'm reading she could proclaim herself Empress of Great Britain |
20:00.39 | ImpyDroid | There is a rich guy who claims himself to be regent of the Russian Empire and has claimed one of the islands in the northern seas for himself to have a place for it |
20:01.44 | Wormy_ | And he got it? |
20:02.08 | Wormy_ | Ah no, rea you wrong |
20:02.52 | Wormy_ | There's man in Texas who created a giant minature village and claimed it as a foreign country. |
20:03.43 | Wormy_ | I used to love visiting model villages http://www.coolplaces.co.uk/system/images/6561/bekonscot-model-village-railway-see-do-parks-gardens-large.jpg |
20:04.41 | ImpyDroid | Hm apparently not but he bought some land in the Balkans for his empire |
20:05.04 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bekonscot |
20:05.13 | Wormy_ | Good on him |
20:05.30 | The_Randomness | Wow, that's really cool |
20:05.59 | Wormy_ | I proclaim the universe to be mine and no military, government or nation can tell me otherwise. |
20:06.22 | The_Randomness | same |
20:06.26 | Wormy_ | because I am the universe |
20:07.13 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burning_house,_Bekonscot.JPG |
20:07.26 | Wormy_ | The level of detail is incredible, I've been there |
20:10.06 | ImpyDroid | Hm speaking of separatists |
20:10.41 | Wormy_ | I once wanted a model trainset, to build the scenery |
20:10.53 | Wormy_ | But too expansive and lack of space |
20:11.09 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman Wormy_ OluapPlayer Monet: Apparently Transylvanians - particularily those in the north who are ethnically Hungarian - actually want to separate themselves from the rest of Romania |
20:11.23 | ImpyDroid | And create an independent Transylvania |
20:11.32 | Wormy_ | Possibly |
20:12.00 | Wormy_ | One of my relatives went to Romania and said there is a lot of anti-semitism. I wonder if that might have something to do with it |
20:12.34 | ImpyDroid | I think they hate Roma people more |
20:13.54 | Wormy_ | yeah |
20:14.33 | Wormy_ | Still, I had a bottle of Dracula wine made where Vlad lived |
20:15.07 | Wormy_ | very nice |
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20:18.34 | Wormy_ | Vlad the Impaler VS Sun Tzu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5seScRjCuk |
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20:20.17 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: https://mobile.twitter.com/LOLKagame/status/613883456657981441 |
20:22.25 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid:Latest Kim Kardashian News Makes Florida TV Anchor Walk Off Set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kODnzx694PQ |
20:24.54 | Hachiman | bak |
20:25.01 | Hachiman | An independent Transylvania would be cool |
20:26.46 | Hachiman | inb4 the separatist head is actually Count Dracula who aims to create his own secessionist state as part of an initiative to create a vampiric empire |
20:26.47 | Wormy_ | Monet: I just realised something, Obi Wan aged dramatically in 19 years. It maybe have been the Tatooine Sun who knows. |
20:27.13 | ImpyDroid | Count Dracula was of Hungarian descent too I belliev |
20:27.23 | Wormy_ | That would be awesome. In the future it would be like the film Ultraviolet |
20:28.02 | Hachiman | Wallachian |
20:28.52 | Hachiman | So yeah, I imagine Hungarian considering Wallachia was initially a Hungarian rebel state |
20:30.47 | drom | Technobliterator: It worked for me when I used Wine Tricks to install Steam and then download Spore through it |
20:30.57 | drom | But the only flaws were the broken graphics |
20:31.26 | Monet | Wormy_: Yeah I think he was meant to be much older. |
20:31.42 | drom | And the different memory layout, which can cause crashes when you attempt to use a memory viewer/editor, mods and the force save mod which relays on a memory address. |
20:31.49 | Monet | Its actually wierd considering I think Qui-Gon was supposed ot be i nhis fifties at least |
20:32.20 | Hachiman | The House of Draculesti was a branch of the House of Basarab, with Basarab I being the founder of the Wallachian state |
20:32.29 | Hachiman | So yes, it is likely that Dracula was Hungarian |
20:33.17 | drom | Technobliterator: And.. oh! You can install Spore using the Wine Tricks as well! It however requires you to own a physical copy (disc) |
20:33.29 | Wormy_ | Lets just say, seeing the binary sunset nearly 20 years pays a toll on your body |
20:33.36 | drom | Idk about CnC and GA |
20:33.45 | Technobliterator | Ah, I see |
20:33.57 | Technobliterator | I will probably just use a wine version of Steam |
20:34.06 | Technobliterator | Also, do you use a virtual machine? |
20:34.15 | drom | Sorry for the late response, I was on a day off with friends |
20:34.19 | drom | Nope, native installtion |
20:34.31 | Wormy_ | I'm also learned thanks to Imgur that Tolkein envisioned a Battle of all battles at the end of time, and since Middle Earth is a forgotten history of ours, it would look like a sci-fi/fantasy mashup |
20:34.45 | Hachiman | Wait what |
20:34.45 | drom | If you meant to run the Windows programs, I just use Wine |
20:35.56 | The_Randomness | Interesting |
20:36.08 | The_Randomness | I vaguely remember reading about that |
20:36.12 | Wormy_ | Was that to me? the Third age is meant to end 6000 years ago |
20:36.29 | drom | Did anyone else try to get a word with me? |
20:36.31 | Hachiman | Unless the Elves return to our world from the Utter West I believe that we are probably fucked when Morgoth and Sauron return to the world |
20:36.40 | Hachiman | Due to our absence of magic |
20:36.47 | OluapPlayer | Just nuke them |
20:37.18 | Wormy_ | Maybe magic changes by the age? Maybe he will be a giant fusion reactor |
20:37.32 | drom | The elves except the two were all twats |
20:37.41 | Hachiman | I would say that it would be difficult to kill Morgoth given that he is supposed to be a literal god of darkness, but then he was almost killed via being eaten by a giant spider |
20:37.55 | OluapPlayer | A nuke would work even better |
20:37.59 | OluapPlayer | Just nuke them |
20:38.09 | drom | Nah |
20:38.16 | drom | Let the sun consume the world |
20:39.01 | OluapPlayer | This makes me wonder, what would be the higher tier equivalent of nukes? |
20:39.15 | Technobliterator | Antimatter |
20:39.31 | Hachiman | Aye, antimatter |
20:39.37 | OluapPlayer | I should've expected that |
20:39.42 | Technobliterator | You'd only need a few grams |
20:39.47 | Hachiman | Antimatter and von-Neumann probes |
20:39.54 | OluapPlayer | The fuck is that |
20:39.55 | Hachiman | aka weaponised nanomachines |
20:40.21 | Technobliterator | Even I do not use weaponised nanomachines |
20:40.23 | Technobliterator | : | |
20:40.37 | OluapPlayer | UNO's bullets are all made of nanomachines |
20:40.39 | Wormy_ | Monopole-catalysed fusion, nanomachines, kinetic relativistic missiles, antimatter, black hole bombs of various kinds, hypermatter bombs, metric weapons |
20:40.47 | drom | weaponized nanomachines are too complicated imo |
20:40.54 | Hachiman | A self-replicating plague of nanomachines that reduce structures of matter into their simplest compounds and convert them into more nanomachines |
20:40.58 | Monet | We had the nanohore |
20:41.01 | Wormy_ | strangelets but stabilised with tiny black hole atoms |
20:41.03 | Monet | nenohorde* |
20:41.07 | OluapPlayer | You mean grey goo |
20:41.12 | Monet | Yeah |
20:41.13 | Technobliterator | They are not made of nanomachines |
20:41.14 | Hachiman | Yes |
20:41.19 | Monet | Wormy_: Ice none bomb. |
20:41.23 | OluapPlayer | I'm joking u dunce |
20:41.29 | Technobliterator | :c |
20:41.31 | Wormy_ | Yes |
20:41.42 | DrodoEmpire | Antimatter sounds more expensive then its worth half the time. Speeding a big heavy rod (or a spaceship) to near the speed of light would do similar damage. :p |
20:42.00 | Monet | Grey goo is the scenario, nanomachines are the technology. |
20:42.00 | DrodoEmpire | Though I guess that needs a definite target and has a limit to its power, practically speaking |
20:42.03 | OluapPlayer | So ramming spaceships |
20:42.12 | OluapPlayer | ALLAH AKBAH, space edition |
20:42.16 | Monet | Although I get the feeling a lot of UNO is more nano*robotics* |
20:42.25 | Hachiman | I would have though spaceships travelling at light speed would phase through planets |
20:42.27 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AJulianne_Disaster - OluapPlayer |
20:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Near lightspeed |
20:42.46 | Technobliterator | MonetAlthough I get the feeling all of UNO is more nano*robotics* |
20:42.48 | Technobliterator | Fixed for ya |
20:42.50 | Technobliterator | :D |
20:42.51 | Hachiman | Ah |
20:42.54 | DrodoEmpire | This fiction demonstrates that tactic in action |
20:43.01 | OluapPlayer | Robots are machines |
20:43.03 | Wormy_ | The DCP has fired a gram of neutron-degenerate matter at 99% speed of light to induce 1 zeptatonne, 1/6th the mass of the Earth. |
20:43.13 | Wormy_ | This is their regular weapons |
20:43.17 | Monet | But not all machines are robots. |
20:43.20 | Wormy_ | Simply because they can |
20:43.33 | Hachiman | NDM railguns sound terrifying |
20:43.36 | OluapPlayer | DCP - the dong isn't gonna wave itself |
20:43.56 | Wormy_ | I imagine it would look like a planetary collision |
20:44.22 | drom | NDM? |
20:44.32 | drom | Oh |
20:44.33 | OluapPlayer | In that case I know what to do soonish in the Fog War |
20:44.38 | Monet | http://www.theengineer.co.uk/pictures/649xAny/0/6/6/2043066_TE_Nanomachine_472.jpg this counts as a nanomachine. |
20:44.39 | Wormy_ | I've updated their weapons anyway http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology/Military_technology#Technologies_of_war |
20:44.58 | OluapPlayer | Shu'suvreca being bombarded with antimatter bombs |
20:45.03 | OluapPlayer | I was thinking the DCP could do that |
20:45.16 | The_Randomness | "The DCP has fired a gram of neutron-degenerate matter at 99% speed of light to induce 1 zeptatonne, 1/6th the mass of the Earth." mfw |
20:45.39 | Monet | http://www.fedupusa.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mems.jpg admittedly that looks rather cool |
20:45.44 | Hachiman | Since Shu'suvreca is, presumably, a non-antimatter construct I imagine it would have the same effect as antimatter coming into contact with standard matter |
20:45.48 | Wormy_ | Its zettatonne not zeptatonne, sorry |
20:45.54 | Monet | Largely because that cog is smaller than a skin cell |
20:46.00 | The_Randomness | :o |
20:46.14 | drom | Wormy_: I guess no one can or is going to get their fiction to the same level of badass as DCP's arsenal. |
20:46.38 | DrodoEmpire | "Badass" being "Raw firepower" yeah |
20:46.54 | Wormy_ | They only can with clarketech like metric weapons that the AI Netspace, Precursors, Junction and Dominatus could use |
20:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | DCP have that in spades, I can tell. |
20:47.04 | OluapPlayer | The Junction can rival the DCP |
20:47.09 | drom | awesome, cool or face-melting. you decide |
20:47.15 | OluapPlayer | But then again Wormy controls the Junction more than me nowadays |
20:48.04 | Wormy_ | My personal favourite is this one atm, such simple physics http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology/Military_technology#Black_hole_super-radiance_bombs |
20:48.04 | Monet | http://ethw.org/images/3/38/Nanotechnology1.jpg teeny-weeny cog or asddgasdgadsfwtfdatbig mite? |
20:48.39 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology/Military_technology#Black_hole_superradiant_bombs |
20:48.44 | drom | Monet: Looks like a regular mite. That ain't no bear mite |
20:48.57 | drom | fucking bear mites man |
20:49.26 | drom | I bet that the bear mites survived the Annihilation |
20:49.53 | Wormy_ | lol |
20:50.27 | drom | Like |
20:50.35 | drom | Nothing can kill or hurt a bear mite |
20:50.39 | drom | So why not |
20:50.46 | Hachiman | Bear mite |
20:50.49 | Hachiman | You mean a tardigrade |
20:50.53 | drom | So why don't we praise them as our new gods |
20:51.52 | Wormy_ | Of course if you want weapons that make the DCP look stone age, look no further than http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Civilisation_Fell |
20:52.31 | Wormy_ | "Apalos had always been seen as little more than the errand boy of the Netspace and as far as the other AIs " |
20:52.49 | OluapPlayer | How rude |
20:52.59 | Wormy_ | Apalos are probably DCP equal or even exceeding them technologically. |
20:53.48 | Wormy_ | ". A single battle between machines had forever changed the shape of the Netspace, and had done so in less than a minute. It was a battle with more fatalities than there were stars in the sky, yet with not a drop of blood spilt nor a single breath extinguished. Now Apalos had to work to repair the damage." |
20:54.26 | Wormy_ | Thats some pretty hardcore warfare |
20:55.33 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
20:56.00 | Hachiman | A casualty rate exceeding the number of stars that exist in reality and yet no blood was spilled |
20:56.15 | drom | Instant disintergation |
20:56.36 | Hachiman | Jesus |
20:56.44 | Monet | Aren't a lot of the Civilisation's members virtual entities these days? |
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20:59.22 | Monet | Hello |
21:00.17 | The_Randomness | Hello |
21:01.10 | Wormy_ | Most are yes |
21:01.15 | Wormy_ | hi |
21:01.39 | OluapPlayer | They were just deleting each other at the speed of light |
21:02.26 | Hachiman | The key was seeing who would lag first |
21:05.14 | Wormy_ | or who would succumb to file sharing site out of one painfully sluggish minute |
21:05.37 | Wormy_ | out of sheer boredom |
21:10.17 | Wormy_ | In the Xeelee Sequence, our era to them was the black hole era to us |
21:10.25 | Wormy_ | For the Quagmites |
21:11.36 | Wormy_ | And in Manifold books, the stellar era was a brief flash to the black hole era minds |
21:14.11 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/MY6wwZz |
21:15.01 | Ghel | Hello. |
21:16.22 | Wormy_ | hi |
21:16.41 | Ghel | Yes, "not a drop of blood spilt" was simply a reference to the fact that they're all machines, but then another line does mention "entire armadas were vaporised" by single weapons and other such things. |
21:17.17 | The_Randomness | Hello |
21:17.58 | Wormy_ | I also interpreted it as something which caused destruction but no death at the same time, just re-organised everything. |
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21:19.18 | drom | Stupid Win8 closed down my client |
21:19.40 | drom | Wormy_ Ghel: Ever heard of Absolute Hot? |
21:19.51 | Ghel | Yes. |
21:20.04 | drom | It is terrifiying |
21:20.20 | Wormy_ | "For the forces of the Tyranny and DCP, the battlespace was changing by the order of femtoseconds thanks to the violent contractions and expansions of space and faster-than-light exchanges, far too little time to predict any study outcomes." |
21:20.25 | Ghel | As in, the opposite temperature of absolute zero. Not if you mean something else by it. |
21:20.55 | Wormy_ | Yes, I've heard of it. Im not sure if anyobody quite knows what temperature absolute hot is |
21:21.34 | Wormy_ | But it would be instantly walled into a black hole I think |
21:21.35 | Technobliterator | I don't remember what UNO's superweapojns were, but I remember they had superweapons that I wrote about |
21:21.51 | drom | Wormy_ Ghel: I see, according to a source, Absolute Hot is 1,420,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000C |
21:22.04 | drom | The point when the conventional phyiscs melt/destruct |
21:22.30 | Ghel | That's the Planck temperature, which is the natural unit of temperature in physics. |
21:23.05 | Ghel | To know what its actual significance is would require a theory of quantum gravity, which we don't have for certain. |
21:23.32 | drom | By the way, the hottest man-created temperature is 5,500,000,000,000. Which was achieve in a collision of lead ions in a particle accelerator. |
21:23.35 | drom | achieved* |
21:24.14 | Ghel | That would be quark-gluon plasma, IIRC. |
21:24.44 | Wormy_ | Might there be some quantum uncertainty making the boundary to absolute hot textured? |
21:25.20 | drom | If anything this is: http://i2.wp.com/www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/temperature-bbc.png?resize=962%2C4358 |
21:25.56 | Ghel | The same "we need to understand quantum gravity" statement applies, as usual. I don't think there's any reason for it to, however. |
21:26.13 | Ghel | But the very concept of temperature may become a little blurred at those scales. |
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21:26.37 | Wormy_ | On the black hole, I'm referring to this: http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/realistic.html |
21:27.00 | Wormy_ | On "Penrose diagram illustrating the cause of mass inflation" |
21:27.18 | Wormy_ | "he inflationary instability acts like a particle accelerator of extraordinary ferocity. Whereas the streams of a terrestrial particle accelerator are accelerated by electromagnetism, the streams of the black hole particle accelerator are self-powered by the gravity produced by their own counter-streaming. The black hole particle accelerator easily reaches and exceeds energies comparable to those in the Big Bang. What does Nature d |
21:30.41 | Wormy_ | lets hope we never see such energies naked in theoutside universe |
21:36.49 | drom | I wonder how much is the highest speed possible for an conventional bullet launched through an electromagnetic barrel, railgun. |
21:39.06 | drom | That with the current technology we possess |
21:40.10 | drom | Then the same, but with the technology equivalent to a tier 1 empire, pimped if either required or nescessary |
21:40.17 | Ghel | That will depend on how long we can make the barrel, and also how strong the magnetic field can be made (determining the terminal velocity from magnetic force vs. drag + friction). |
21:40.52 | drom | Ghel: I guess temperature counts as well? |
21:40.56 | drom | Super conductors |
21:41.31 | Ghel | If you use superconductors, then you'll need the temperature to below their critical point, yes. |
21:42.02 | Ghel | But beneath the criticial temperature they have zero resistance. |
21:43.03 | Wormy_ | We could probably pull several macs using the most powerful magnetic fields we can muster |
21:43.17 | Wormy_ | I might be being far too conservative actually |
21:43.35 | Ghel | You can use the basic equations given on Wikipedia's railgun page, and if this is a railgun in a vacuum we don't even have to worry about air resistance (although friction will presumably still be present unless we really cool it down and use a superfluid lubricant). |
21:43.54 | drom | Wormy_: Heh, Mac-books |
21:44.31 | Wormy_ | 2.8 kiloteslas |
21:45.11 | Ghel | The final velocity (assuming non-relativistic) will be sqrt(2*F*d/m), where F is the force, d is the length of the barrel and m is the mass of the projectile. |
21:46.40 | Ghel | Then the force, according to Wikipedia, will be mu_0 * I^2 * ln[(s-r)/r] / 2*pi, where mu_0 is the vacuum permeability, I is the current, s is the distance between the rails, and r is the radius of the rails. |
21:47.50 | Wormy_ | I believe Operation Plumbob accelerated a metal plate to 6 times the escape velocity, but it would have vapourised before reaching space. |
21:48.03 | Ghel | Since current is generally proportional to area, you then have an optimisation problem: at what radius is the decrease of ln[(s-r)/r] with r counterbalanced by the increase of I with r? |
21:48.04 | drom | Wormy_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_number |
21:48.35 | Ghel | So if you want to plug those numbers in, feel free. |
21:48.52 | drom | Thanks, but I'm not going to get to far. |
21:49.05 | drom | too* |
21:49.14 | Wormy_ | It would seem friction would make railgun-accelerations impractical past a certain point |
21:49.44 | Wormy_ | I would like to, if I had more railgun specs. But I bet thats classified |
21:49.49 | Ghel | It arguably becomes a little easier if you want kinetic energy, because then you just need E=F*d. |
21:50.10 | drom | And what does d stand for? |
21:50.19 | Ghel | Length of the barrel. |
21:50.21 | drom | Oh |
21:50.22 | Ghel | Wormy_: You don't need railgun specs to calculate this idealised railgun. |
21:50.33 | Ghel | I was going to use "l", and then for some reason I didn't. |
21:51.09 | Wormy_ | Well, what I want to know is, what we could practically engineer. An idealisation gives the theory, but not the engineering |
21:52.26 | Ghel | Yes, but it does give you an upper limit. |
21:53.14 | Ghel | And depending on how carefully you select your values, it can be a fairly decent limit, not excessively high. |
21:54.38 | Ghel | All you need for this one is the dimensions of the railgun - how long it is, and what the distance is between the rails - the mass of the projectile, and the radius and current passing through the wires. |
21:54.45 | drom | Let's see. Get a 30 caliber bullet to reach near the c just using a 4 meter barrel... |
21:55.12 | drom | 30mm caliber |
21:55.14 | drom | grrr |
21:55.24 | Ghel | If you wanted to include friction then you'd need the coefficient of friction between the projectile and the rails, and then find the velocity at which these two forces balance. |
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21:57.12 | Wormy_ | Could you work out how much electric current induces a magewtic field of 2.8 kT? |
21:58.25 | drom | Well. I'm going to asume that friction is zero. |
21:58.52 | Wormy_ | It actually destroyed the equipment and lab, so if he want practical weapon then it would probably destreoy the railgun |
22:00.37 | Ghel | The magnetic field produced by a solenoid also depends on the number of current loops and the length of the solenoid. |
22:02.38 | drom | 2,800 Tesla, eh? |
22:05.09 | drom | Ghel: As well the resistance if the solenoid isn't a superconductor. |
22:05.45 | Ghel | Yes, but that will be taken care of by the value of the current. |
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22:12.01 | Hachiman | What if Lord of the Rings took place in a scifi setting? |
22:12.07 | Hachiman | Or a science fantasy setting |
22:12.36 | drom | There is "Permeability" |
22:12.42 | ImpyDroid | There is a Russian book that retells LotR from a more rationalist PoV |
22:12.43 | drom | But I'm just going to asume that it is 1 |
22:12.57 | Hachiman | Rationalist PoV? |
22:13.22 | Wormy_ | LoTR could be on a colony with magic being ancient technology or utility fog. |
22:13.39 | ImpyDroid | The premise is that LotR as written by Tolkien is exactly what it was based on - a national epic reflecting factual historical events |
22:13.59 | Wormy_ | I've always imagined a fantasy setting on a Ringworld. Then I read the book and realised that was its theme anyway. |
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22:14.39 | ImpyDroid | And the story is what inspired it |
22:14.55 | Hachiman | Huh I see |
22:15.06 | ImpyDroid | Though there is still magic |
22:15.21 | drom | ~2800*(4*(2*pi*0.03)) |
22:15.21 | infobot | 2111.1502608 |
22:15.38 | Ghel | drom: Magnetic permeability of the vacuum is a physical constant. 4*pi*10^-7 in SI units. |
22:15.47 | drom | Aha |
22:15.57 | ImpyDroid | Sauron is in particular a bold industrialist and orcs are just a now - extinct human nation which was demonized throughout the ages |
22:16.11 | drom | welp, time to boot up VS and program so I can save the hassle |
22:16.52 | Wormy_ | I'd take magic more seriously, there is certainly a scientific element to it. LoTR's magic seems to be based on protoscience western alchemy. Therefore, it is "Alchemypunk" |
22:17.47 | Hachiman | I get reminded of Numenera - a tabletop RPG, like D&D and Pathfinder, where the setting is the Earth a billion years into the future following the fall of eight previous cycles of great civilisations, with magic effectively being a global utility fog or gatherings of nanomachines designed to fulfil specific niches and purposes |
22:18.37 | Hachiman | Yet the current state of technology for humanity and its neighbours - extraterrestrial entities and abhuman mutants - is reflected in largely Medieval-era designs |
22:19.30 | Wormy_ | interesting |
22:20.25 | Wormy_ | In terms of Fantasy magic, doesn't our modern technology have eery parallels in terms of function? |
22:20.53 | Wormy_ | Dragon riders = fighter jets |
22:20.57 | Hachiman | There are ruins of ancient sufficiently-advanced technology littered across the continent - which is effectively a second Pangea due to artificial geological reshaping - including the likes of ruined space elevators, nano-plagues, antimatter and zero-point generators, etc |
22:22.25 | Hachiman | There are also implications of humanity being an artificially-recreated species during the current era of the world due to having gone extinct in a previous cycle |
22:22.30 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://dotat.at/tmp/LastRB.pdf&ved=0CG0QFjAPahUKEwiQreu_yaTHAhVinXIKHSjCDHE&usg=AFQjCNFTkoXwvPhPl24MizpQub1NeoH3Hg&sig2=n-E1VZ1Wr6HkY5ZsLXC2fw |
22:22.36 | ImpyDroid | Found the book for free |
22:22.46 | ImpyDroid | And in English |
22:22.57 | Hachiman | Oh sweet |
22:28.17 | Wormy_ | Of course you can invert this concept |
22:28.35 | Hachiman | Numenera's setting and gameplay mechanics are effectively inspired by Clarke's Third Law, with nano/picotechnology effectively being the cause for a majority of ounces of magic in the Ninth Age - aka 1,000,000,000 AD |
22:28.38 | Wormy_ | Where sci-fi is actually in a fantasy setting |
22:29.00 | Wormy_ | In discworld our Earth is a magical simulation |
22:29.03 | Hachiman | inb4 midichlorian argument for Star Wars |
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22:38.53 | The_Randomness | that was weird |
22:44.18 | drom | Wormy_ Ghel: According to my little cli program, I'd need about 50.1 million loops to achieve 2800 Tesla in space using the power 500 Amphere. |
22:45.22 | Ghel | Given how huge 2.8kT actually is, that doesn't surprise me. |
22:45.37 | Wormy_ | That might explain why the lab that created it used explosives somehow |
22:45.50 | Wormy_ | And it was a pulse rather than sustained |
22:46.12 | Ghel | 256 MA, in fact, rather thana mere 0.5 kA. |
22:46.19 | Ghel | than a* |
22:46.54 | drom | Here's the C++ code if anything http://i.imgur.com/8vHZnBY.png |
22:47.46 | Wormy_ | thats cool |
22:48.13 | drom | hold on a fucking minute |
22:48.27 | drom | I wrote that the radius is 3mm, but it was intended to be 30 |
22:50.17 | Ghel | Where's that factor of 4 come from between the field strength and the circumference? |
22:50.19 | drom | Alright, it seems like the final and real number is 3.36 million (3.36e+06) |
22:50.26 | drom | Nope, length |
22:50.32 | drom | Length of the barrel |
22:51.00 | drom | If we asume that whole of the barrel's length is covered in coils. |
22:51.17 | Ghel | When I said "length" earlier I misstyped. It should be the circumference of the current loop. |
22:51.53 | Ghel | The equation is: magnetic field strength * circumference of loop = permeability * current * number of loops. |
22:52.21 | Ghel | 2*pi*0.003 is a circumference of a circle with radius 0.003. |
22:53.46 | Wormy_ | Monet, Ghel, Monet: http://imgur.com/gallery/lFalK3I "This chemical scum has universality. Its structure contains, with ever-increasing precision, the structure of everything. This place, and not other places in the universe, is a hub which contains within itself the structural and causal essence of the whole of the rest of physical reality." David Deutsch |
22:53.49 | drom | In that case then, no. 4 is the barrel's length. |
22:54.01 | drom | Wormy_: Did you ping Monet twice in same message? |
22:54.25 | Wormy_ | I did |
22:54.33 | Wormy_ | That was meant to be you |
22:54.45 | drom | Aw yiss tho |
22:54.48 | Wormy_ | The post reminds me of Deutsch's poetic quote |
22:54.53 | Ghel | If you're going to include the barrel length, then the final answer is going to be the number of loops times the barrel length... |
22:56.14 | Ghel | Now if you *divided* by the barrel length, you'd at least have the number of loops per unit length. |
22:57.08 | drom | In that case then it'd be 840000 loops if the barrel was flat. |
22:57.57 | Ghel | Just 840,000 loops. :P The barrel length is irrelevant to the equation. |
22:58.11 | drom | Else 210000 per meter, eh.... |
22:58.31 | Ghel | You may want a longer barrel. Or very thin superconducting wires. |
22:58.39 | drom | I get that from dividing the result with 4. |
22:58.54 | drom | Yeah, I'd use very thing super conducting wires. |
22:59.01 | drom | Because it is the future |
22:59.11 | drom | *prolonged future* |
23:00.53 | drom | Let's see. I'm going to test with 10 cm radius |
23:01.40 | drom | Then multiply the magnetic flux with 10, if the mass in calculation is 1 kg |
23:02.03 | Wormy_ | heh, you two beings knowledge hubs where the universe is trying to work out how to induce magnetic fields at a high level |
23:02.11 | Wormy_ | *being |
23:02.12 | drom | cause 10kg 10cm caliber slug |
23:02.38 | drom | The bigger, heavier the deadiler it becomes upon impact? |
23:03.46 | Ghel | Not if it's going slow enough so that it has less momentum. |
23:04.54 | Ghel | The kinetic energy gain doesn't depend on the mass, only on the magnetic force times the length of the barrel, so mass doesn't make a difference there. With momentum... |
23:05.27 | drom | Wormy_ Ghel: The funny side of this story for me though is, I got an A on my high-school physics last year. But I'm already an uneducated dork. |
23:05.47 | Ghel | v=Sqrt(2*F*d/m), so momentum is proportional to the square of the mass. So yes, increasing the mass of the projectile will increase the momentum, with all else kept equal. |
23:06.12 | Wormy_ | You are certainly no dork if you can program equations. That is something I aspire to. |
23:06.16 | Ghel | That won't necessarily make it more deadly but it will take more force to stop it. |
23:06.42 | drom | Hm. |
23:08.49 | drom | I had an interesting thought while programming the little calculator, I thought that the slug's momentum would too high for gravitional shielding or any shielding that disintergates foreign objects upon contact to disintegrate the projectile in time. |
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23:09.54 | Wormy_ | Well there is a lot of truth there |
23:10.11 | Ghel | That's going to depend on how disintegration works. Which is actually something I've never really considered. |
23:10.19 | drom | So it will pass, and if the disintergration generates heat, the projectile will become an nigh-unstoppable fireball of fury that will pack a lethal punch even to the strongest armour. |
23:10.27 | Ghel | Just vaporising it is only going to turn a cold metal slug into a hot metal vapour. |
23:10.43 | Ghel | Especially in a vacuum. |
23:11.43 | Ghel | The main point is probably not the momentum, but the velocity - the faster it's travelling, the less time the shield has to apply its disintegration technique to the projectile. |
23:11.44 | drom | Otherwise it will just make considerbly serious dents on thick armour or even penerate through multiple huge ships |
23:12.02 | Ghel | checks his Guide to Stuff |
23:12.28 | Wormy_ | So basically, a starship with even considerably strong shields could get shotgun last effects, just perhaps from smaller superheated fragments |
23:12.47 | drom | Depends on the angle though |
23:13.01 | drom | Since not all shields are facing to one single direction |
23:13.04 | Ghel | I wrote there that deflector shields would actually work by using viscous plasma to deflect projectiles. |
23:13.35 | Ghel | Any kind of disintegrating shield will have the problem you describe: the projectile will simply be turned into a superheated projectile. |
23:13.57 | Ghel | It doesn't actually remove momentum. |
23:14.06 | drom | I see. |
23:15.01 | drom | But I believe that the deflector shields is going to have the problem of the stray bullets going through the shielding like a light through prism. |
23:15.44 | Wormy_ | I think SporeWikiverse ships are likely to use different kinds of shield, I highlight problems like momentum and so on here http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology/Military_technology#Non-phasic_shields_and_inertial_dampening |
23:16.21 | drom | So depending on the angle, the shielding makes the projectiles less harmful, or bounce off to hit other ships that happen to in its way. |
23:16.30 | drom | to be in* |
23:17.02 | Ghel | It's not obvious that differing angles will reduce the effectiveness of deflector shields. It might do, but I can't say for sure that it would. |
23:18.13 | drom | I treat shields the same as armor, except it can be turned on and off and possesses completely unique capacities |
23:19.04 | drom | But! |
23:19.20 | drom | It also depends on the choice of material used for the slugs |
23:22.13 | Wormy_ | I was about to suggest that repulsive gravity shielding might be able to reduce the momentum at an enormous cost, but then remembered the nullification problem: surplus momentum is left behind. Would that be a problem Ghel? |
23:22.50 | Wormy_ | Nullification assumes both positive and negative particles have the same momentum though |
23:23.03 | drom | Wormy_: NS - Nice technology you've got there. It would be a shame if someone made them into cages of hell. |
23:23.39 | Wormy_ | DCP - Been there done that. (March of the Apocalypse) |
23:25.21 | drom | Anyway. How many ways are there to cause a star reduce to a supernova? |
23:25.23 | Wormy_ | Ghel: I remember you thought of "Momenton particles" |
23:25.32 | Wormy_ | A few |
23:26.17 | Ghel | I have thought about this some more. These would basically be tachyons, which have infinite velocity in the zero-energy frame of the nullifying system. |
23:26.18 | Wormy_ | Actually, only a few ways to speed up the process |
23:26.45 | drom | I've heard of the disruptor |
23:27.20 | Wormy_ | I guess you would want to throw in loads of wormholes and increase its mass by filling it with loads of extra mass like iron |
23:28.16 | Wormy_ | I prefer the term "star killing", you can imagine disrupting a star's output using things like q-balls, that may not result in an implosion but certainly negative effects |
23:29.02 | drom | Something, something. That inflats a star into an unstable mass that then transforms to a phenoma equal to a supernova |
23:30.09 | Ghel | Well, you've half-answered your own question there: to make a star go supernova, you need to increase its mass. |
23:30.37 | Wormy_ | The problem with stars is that they are some of the most stable, predictable things around. |
23:30.45 | Ghel | Anyway, I'm going to go now. Bye! |
23:30.49 | Wormy_ | ye |
23:30.51 | Wormy_ | *bye |
23:30.55 | drom | see ya! |
23:30.58 | drom | damnit |
23:31.38 | Wormy_ | You could destroy a star using gridfire |
23:32.28 | drom | Wormy_: Well you could inflate a star until it becomes a black hole. But the problem is, it require very big stars to provide an actual effect |
23:32.37 | drom | deflate* |
23:35.25 | Wormy_ | Again, only by increasing its mass so much that it gravitational collapse overwhelms the pressure of electron and neutron degeneracy |
23:36.40 | Wormy_ | On gridfire, thats essentially sending a lightlike singularity, or a spacetime wave travelling at c, destroying everything in its path with no forewarning or disspitation |
23:37.05 | Wormy_ | In SporeWikiverse, hypermatter detonation can do this |
23:38.57 | drom | Wormy_: https://youtu.be/N_KSsyxWbjM?t=58s |
23:40.12 | Wormy_ | Sure! Why not? |
23:40.37 | drom | Until 2:18 |
23:42.46 | Wormy_ | Another way you could wreak havokck is to dim the star with something like a matrioshka brain |
23:42.50 | drom | There is an interesting reason here "That star is too small,it wouldn't generate enough light or heat to any planet beyond what i think astronomers call the "Goldilocks Zone",but how did that ship even slingshot around that star without being blown to pieces by the solar flares? Is the star an artificial star similar to the one above the Ark or is it just a dwarf star?" |
23:43.40 | Wormy_ | I don't know much about Halo, but I thought their dyson spheres were mini-ones using hyperspace technology |
23:44.03 | Wormy_ | Artificial I assume |
23:44.13 | Wormy_ | Now here is something counter-intuitive |
23:44.22 | drom | And oh, the star was first instabilized for some reason I forgot, then one of the ship's crew scarified himself to prime the nuclear reactor used to blow up the star. |
23:44.39 | drom | So. It is more info-scientific |
23:45.03 | Wormy_ | If it was a supergiant star (though it doesn't seem to be so wrong explanation), then you could actually see through the star's outer layers |
23:45.31 | Wormy_ | Those outer layers would be very cool, very thin |
23:46.20 | drom | They should've blown up that dyson sphere sun in STO |
23:46.55 | drom | these frikkin undine |
23:46.58 | Wormy_ | So with shields I think a ship probably could approach it to certain level. The bigger danger of course is from the Roche limit where tidal effects rip your ship to shreds |
23:47.56 | drom | I kinda find it curious how the lientaunt looks like it has only two legs in this picture http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/f6025afdea6a1f70f0ce0ee06d6c4141626126b0.jpg |
23:48.01 | Wormy_ | Nah, that would send your ship back in time unfortunately. In Trek physics, warping around a star will send you back in time |
23:48.19 | Wormy_ | No basis in real life though |
23:48.21 | Monet | Hehe |
23:48.58 | Monet | I was going ot say it requires the cheaply-shielded warp core of a Bird-OfPrey but i recall i nSTO you can do it with any ship |
23:49.08 | Wormy_ | Maybe tripods are hard to animate without uncanny valleyness |
23:50.33 | Wormy_ | Monet, drom: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33850710 |
23:50.38 | drom | Well. I noticed that their middle leg is linked directly to the spine |
23:50.43 | drom | I mean, like |
23:50.44 | drom | ouch |
23:51.28 | drom | Good for you Wormy_ Monet... We in Sweden will never get anything interesting for the moment |
23:51.36 | drom | Anyway. I need get some rest. |
23:51.40 | drom | See ya. |
23:51.45 | Monet | Wormy_: I'm too tired to go meteor-watching tonight. |
23:51.46 | Wormy_ | drom: Time travel in ST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65nSJrF-zgw |
23:52.16 | Wormy_ | It might be visible where you live |
23:52.28 | drom | But speaking of the devil, I probably will a fiction based on the undines |
23:52.37 | Wormy_ | Thing is I've got to walk into my big spooky garden |
23:52.52 | drom | How spooky is it? |
23:52.59 | drom | from 1 to 10 |
23:53.32 | drom | Wormy_ Monet: *instant boner* http://pre02.deviantart.net/45a2/th/pre/f/2014/128/4/3/star_trek_online___kilij_romulan_dreadnought_by_adamburn-d7hnfaj.jpg |
23:53.57 | Wormy_ | Indeed, I find it a bit too fanciful for Romulan design |
23:54.01 | Wormy_ | Maybe Reman |
23:54.18 | Wormy_ | drom: 6 to 9 depending on my mood |
23:54.27 | Monet | Shinzon's Scimitar was built with Reman labour |
23:54.35 | Wormy_ | I have a big garden and I have to walk to it up steps |
23:54.57 | drom | But why is it spooky? |
23:55.18 | Wormy_ | Big trees things could hide behind |
23:55.34 | Wormy_ | brb might go and look |
23:55.35 | drom | Hm |
23:57.02 | drom | I'm surronded by thick and dense forest. Only a street light illuminate the exit on the other side of the road. |
23:58.05 | drom | It has been a while we washed the glass on our windows last. So the garden looks more spooky from inside than outside. |
23:58.15 | drom | Bye for rael |