IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150727

00:03.40Wormy_paegsthanks
00:03.56Wormy_paegsno problem I'm still busy on the elemental page
00:35.27DrodoEmpiretest
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01:51.47Tek0516This is so sad. Kanye West is out of tempo for his own performance. XD
01:52.13TechnobliteratorOh?
01:53.27MonetAwayToo much time spent feeding his own ego
01:55.38OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Seen the new Samilinus?
01:56.41TechnobliteratorYup!
01:56.58OluapPlayerThoughts?
01:56.59TechnobliteratorI think this version is better, yeah
01:57.07Tek0516It's hilarious how much quieter the applause was when he started performing
01:57.34Technobliteratorand the main picture is more fitting given what the Samilinus are for
01:57.50Technobliteratornice work
01:57.55TechnobliteratorTek0516, which song?
01:58.57Tek0516Too many.
01:59.15TechnobliteratorI mean, which song is he out of tempo for/
01:59.17Technobliterator?
01:59.43TechnobliteratorHe's normally a great performer, he doesn't really have a history of doing that
02:00.56Tek0516Well it was the intro of some song of his. You could see and even hear him clapping off-beat
02:01.33TechnobliteratorWell, he has a history of screwing up on stage, but only when performing other songs :      |
02:01.43Technobliteratorgimme a line or two?
02:02.05Tek0516It was like 5 songs ago.
02:02.25Tek0516Oh god, he's finally done. -.-
02:02.29Technobliteratoroh
02:02.33Technobliteratoraw
02:02.56Technobliteratorout of interest, what are you watching?
02:03.09Tek0516Pan Am games closing ceremonies
02:03.25TechnobliteratorOh, right
02:03.57MonetI hear "Pan Am" and all I can think of is the former airline
02:04.29Tek0516They're doing fireworks off the CN Tower now
02:05.01Tek0516From here it looks like its on fire. XD
02:05.07TechnobliteratorLet me have a look
02:06.44Technobliteratorlol there was a petition against him performing there
02:07.06TechnobliteratorIt's a shame this guy has ruined his image so badly that everyone hates his guts
02:07.26Tek0516Yep
02:08.36TechnobliteratorThe Kanye West of so many years back would've been applauded
02:08.41TechnobliteratorBut now...sigh
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09:39.49AdmiralPandaHello all
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09:53.01Wormy_hi
10:13.27AdmiralPandahi
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10:50.32Wormy_It's becoming a fucking stupid trend that every media site wants you to register before reading or watching.
10:50.58Wormy_I don't want a milliuon bloody passwords
10:51.13Wormy_Or to to think of one every time I enter a site
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11:35.18AdmiralPanda_hi
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11:51.21HachimanHai
11:51.48MonetHello
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11:59.35HachimanFucking internet
12:02.24Wormy_Hachi:  You might find this interesting http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Elemental_energy
12:04.20HachimanWormy_: So what about the offensive capability of Elemental?
12:05.39Wormy_Directly comparable to other kinds of essence, but it can drain the user or even harm them if they are not enlightened enough
12:06.28Wormy_It depends how developed they are I suppose
12:06.48Wormy_For a dark adept trying to learn elemental would be the slowest route
12:07.21HachimanI suppose that's fair enough
12:07.41HachimanI suppose Elemental is more optimal for stuff like healing and such
12:07.52HachimanUtility uses rather than combat ones
12:09.03Wormy_It's greatest power is the ability to explore the infinity within, and learn how essence flows in the body
12:11.37Wormy_It is also its greatest weakness, because a being caught up with trying to obtain powers can become limited by it
12:12.20HachimanYeah, I can understand that
12:12.22Wormy_I suppose that describes ascension and descension nicely?
12:12.31Wormy_for elemental anyway
12:12.32HachimanElemental is more than just powers after all
12:19.23Wormy_I feel as though elemental now has more connection with other metaphysical concepts.  Before it was "elemental" without describing why
12:23.03Monetbbl
12:50.17Wormy_Dropped your keys in a lack hole today?  Sean Carroll will help you get them back http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2015/07/24/guest-post-aidan-chatwin-davies-on-recovering-one-qubit-from-a-black-hole/
12:50.22Wormy_black hole
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13:00.28GhelaeHello.
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14:18.25HachimanHai
14:18.31OluapPlayerBlegh
14:18.44GhelaeHello.
14:19.29OluapPlayerI've been having problems all morning
14:19.32OluapPlayerNow Steam won't open
14:23.24OluapPlayerFucking
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14:52.28MonetHello
14:54.24HachimanHai
15:56.58Technobliteratorchoosing a game to buy
15:57.01Technobliteratorstruggle is real
15:57.08MonetWhich games?
15:58.21Technobliteratoreither one of the Sly games, Jak II, Jak 3, or one of the Spyro games
15:58.45Technobliteratorbudget: 12 quid
15:58.47Technobliteratoronly for vita
15:59.05MonetI hear the Sly games are pretty good.
15:59.34TechnobliteratorI played them all, I'm not sure if I like them enough, though
16:00.29HachimanGo Spyro or Jak
16:09.35Wormy_awayStephen Hawking on Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/3eret9/science_ama_series_i_am_stephen_hawking/
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16:13.42JepardiHi
16:14.40Wormy_awayI knew this sort of shit still goes on but not as close as the Faroe islands https://www.facebook.com/captpaulwatson/photos/a.443115070931.234296.155430570931/10153371273530932/?type=1
16:19.16Wormy_away"fools I challenge captain Paul Watson and all the whale lovers on here to try and survive a full year on the Faroe Islands without eating whale meat or using whale sourced products"
16:20.05Wormy_awayThey are slaughtered for fun
16:20.24Wormy_awayOr maybe they should fucking modernise
16:23.10HachimanI can understand whale farming
16:23.22HachimanBut mass slaughter is wrong
16:24.05HachimanI do not see how they cannot support a different form of farming industry that focuses on the farming of terrestrial animals though
16:24.49Hachimanbrb
16:24.49Wormy_awayI cannot believe they will starve without whale meat.
16:25.44Wormy_awayThey are modern in everything but that practise.  They can trade, or catch fish, and so on.  Plus it gets sold in resturants so that is hardly an austerity
16:26.13Wormy_awayScottish islands just south of the Faroes do without
16:26.30Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Time - Done.
16:40.14Monethttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet?from=Main.HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet just stumbled across this
16:41.36Wormy_awayI hope they all get mercury poisoning quite frankly
16:44.18MonetI think the DI does okay with phase five.
16:44.27MonetWhat with Pax Draconica and all
16:50.47Wormy_awayhttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EasilyThwartedAlienInvasion
16:50.53Wormy_awaythis one is interesting
16:51.25Wormy_away>The Road Not Taken
16:52.29MonetI can't rememebr where I found it but there's a line that points osmething like this out when writing
16:53.21MonetSomething along the lines of "unlike fiction, reality has no compulsion to make sense"
16:57.25Wormy_awayOur common sense is actually wrong in the face of scientific theories.
16:57.43MonetIf an advanced and numerically superior alien warfleet comes to our planet, we *will* get our asses handed to us.
16:58.04MonetSOme of these are interesting playabouts
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16:59.05ImperiosHiya!
16:59.10MonetHello
16:59.19Wormy_Our common sense is that matter is solid, that you feel the force of gravity, that time is absolute fixed reference, that time actually flows, and that objects belong in one state of the universe.
16:59.23MonetThe first Hiver invasion fleet was stopped by Earth firing the majority of its nuclear stockpile at them. *buuut* then we learn that armada was but a tiny colonisation fleet.
17:01.09Monet(Sword of the Stars)
17:01.24Wormy_A story where a Tier 5 civilisation tries to invade Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall
17:01.49MonetIt took the majority of our nuclear arsenal to drive off the Hiver equivilent of a wagon train.
17:03.48Imperios" In the aftermath, the aliens invade Africa, where they enjoy more success. One result is the end of South African Apartheid. Simply, Whites and Blacks become equal under the rule of the Fithp."
17:03.51ImperiosBrilliant
17:06.40Monet"dear merciless alien invaders, we ask that should you take us over that you let us keep our cat videos, porn, booze, video games, funny memes and music. We won't be much trouble if you do. Sincerely, the human race"
17:07.14Wormy_Of course a Tier 5 could wipe us out unconventionally using asteroid bases and artificial virus but if it was a classic invasion like in Battle: LA I think wer could fighrt back
17:07.37Imperios"The United States secretly builds a large, heavily armed spacecraft propelled by nuclear bombs "
17:07.52ImperiosWhy the United States and not the Republic of India though?
17:07.54ImperiosGandhi would approve
17:08.10WormY-awayAnything beyond that would absolutely anniilate us before we even knew they were there
17:10.14MonetWormy_away: Very true
17:11.40ImperiosProvided that they wimply won't turn us against one another though
17:12.50MonetMaybe they are
17:12.57MonetA divided army is a weaker army
17:14.04MonetI estimate that present-day Earth could be conquered by an ITN lesser admiral.
17:14.12MonetTwo for save measure
17:15.37MonetWhich would equate to at msot, 6,000 starships and 240 million soldiers.
17:17.17MonetI think I should solidify the command numbers
17:17.33MonetUsing ballpark numbers for the sizes of the variosu divisions of the military looks messy
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17:21.08DrodoEmpireHello everyone
17:21.11MonetHello
17:21.14MonetPerfect timing
17:21.29MonetBecause I found this lol http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet?from=Main.HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet
17:23.50HachimanHonestly I no longer see the practicality of invading another world and combating with its inhabitants beyond merely political or corporate justifications
17:25.17HachimanSuch as occupying Earth to either influence and reshape it into a luxury resort or to maintain the human population as a vassal
17:25.54MonetTHey could always buy up the planet now.
17:26.02MonetWe have the systems, they have the money.
17:28.51HachimanIf our opposition consists of sufficiently-advanced extraterrestrials, why do they even require us in their equation if most of their infrastructure would already be automatic or beyond the requirement for physical labour
17:29.24HachimanWhy invade Earth and attempt to enslave or destroy mankind unless we function as practice
17:29.31MonetThat's a good point
17:29.57MonetPower I guess.. So yeah, I guess the reason would mainly be political
17:31.57MonetSome of these points do well to sum up that we've been doing things like assassination or anatomical study on ourselves perhaps far longer than any newly-appearing aliens
17:33.13MonetI recall this is the reason why Exalt soldiers in Xcom don't need to be studied under the knife for identifyign weaknesses; we've know nour own weaknesses for years..
17:33.56HachimanAye
17:34.22HachimanAlthough EXALT Cells often field genetically-engineered militants in combat
17:35.43MonetTrue, but by the tiem they show up Xcom is usually fielding similar mods.
17:37.31HachimanYeah true
17:37.46HachimanPlus XCOM's methods of genetic-engineering are far less crude and more refined
17:38.38HachimanDue to having actual multinational funding rather than having to rely on scavenging
17:39.11MonetI do wonder myself where EXALT gets its money
17:39.55HachimanWell many EXALT operatives are every-men
17:40.50MonetHowever their HQ sets off a few alarm bells - its command centre is a slapdash mirror of XCOM command, complete with a hologlobe but most interestingly of all its in a penthouse and the surrounding corridors are filled with artworks, antique vases and the aood alien artifacts.
17:41.06Monetodd*
17:41.27MonetTo me that sounds like they're getting their money off someone (or a few people) with deep pockets.
17:41.29HachimanI imagine that many EXALT operatives are involved in criminal syndicates and large corporations
17:41.42MonetYeah that's what I'm thinking.
17:42.25HachimanIn fact, they probably hire more people than field people who genuinely believe in EXALT's endgame
17:43.17MonetEXALT cells are also pretty independant of each other.
17:43.42HachimanMercenaries, criminals, refugees from countries XCOM has failed to protect
17:43.52MonetAnd the goal of the EXALT side of the campaign i to piece together where their HQ is by visiting a bunch of different countries.
17:44.44HachimanLet us not forget that Sectoids have the capacity to mind-control humans, which means they can probably control or influence significant people such as CEOs and the like
17:45.34MonetThe higher-level Sectoids can
17:45.51MonetRank-and-file sectoids can only use their telepathy ebtween each other
17:47.42HachimanStill, the point stands
17:49.47MonetIt does. Exalt believed they could advantage humanity by taking advantage of what they aliens werel eaving behind
17:51.21HachimanAnd funnily enough, XCOM was doing the exact same thing
18:02.14MonetNot all EXALT operatives were mercenaries or criminals.
18:03.04MonetA lot of the soldiers you meet are dressed in suits, which to me implies that there are a number who work i noffices near to each extraction site.
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18:03.41dino82_hello
18:07.21HachimanYeah, as I said, many EXALT operatives are every-men
18:07.30HachimanAlthough white-collar criminals may still apply hur
18:07.32HachimanHi Dino
18:07.48MonetHi
18:08.21MonetWhite collar crime would net EXALT with mroe money for less of a paper trail
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18:20.18GhelHello.
18:20.51dino82_how is allz doing
18:21.29GhelI'm okay; how about you?
18:22.44DrodoEmpireI'm good.
18:26.55dino82_great to hear, me too!
18:27.08dino82_anything going on on the wiki tonight?
18:27.45DrodoEmpireI dunno... Maybe I guess.
18:27.54GhelThere doesn't seem to be much.
18:28.21GhelI finished http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Time a little earlier on, and Wormy's been working on rewriting the Elemental Energy page too.
18:31.08dino82_oh ok
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18:48.15ImmaFromPolandItHai
18:48.44ImmaFromPolandItMeh, cya
18:48.51XhoHe was fun
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18:58.50LuxorAhoy everyone!
18:58.57DrodoEmpireHello
18:59.23LuxorAwful, wormy's away
18:59.32LuxorAh, and also
18:59.48DrodoEmpireHm?
18:59.53LuxorAccording to resources in SFU, I think we'd need infobox template
18:59.59LuxorLike empires, etc.
19:00.17DrodoEmpireWe... Have infoboxes.
19:00.33LuxorI know, but it's hard to configure them using manual edition.
19:00.44LuxorIt'd be better if we could create a template already.
19:02.33GhelAre you saying we need a new infobox for something, or that the infoboxes we currently have are unsatisfactory?
19:02.53LuxorNot that, I meant using...
19:02.59MonetLuxor: I was sure we already have templates.
19:03.02Luxorwait, let me copy some of these HTML...
19:04.01Luxor|main image1        =Eppajah.png |main image1 size   =300x100px |label2-1           =Type |content2-2         =Spoken/Written |label3-1           =Origin |content3-2         =Artificial language, fusion of regional dialects |label4-1           =Spread |content4-2         =URN territory
19:04.19LuxorI mean we should create infobox template for resources, as it is for empires, planets, etc.
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19:04.30Xhohttp://www.deviantart.com/art/Spore-The-Vanguard-549310964 Did this
19:04.32TybusenGreeting
19:04.35XhoHi
19:04.48LuxorI like his back
19:04.51GhelHello.
19:04.52LuxorNice spikes.
19:04.57LuxorOh, hai Tybusen.
19:05.18GhelLuxor: So the answer to my question was, you think we need a infobox for something (that something being resources).
19:05.52LuxorYup
19:06.09MonetLuxor: it looks like you're using the /docs rather than the infobox tempaltes we have
19:06.27LuxorI used this for language...
19:06.40GhelWe do have {{infobox language}}, BTW.
19:06.49LuxorOh rl
19:07.06GhelBut yes, look at http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates
19:07.16GhelIf you want to make a new infobox, feel free.
19:07.22LuxorOh, so thats not a problem
19:07.25LuxorNice.
19:07.59LuxorAnd also, do we have a general systematics for weapon classes and types? I know there was one, but it seems to be moved and/or deleted
19:08.17XhoWe do
19:08.23XhoThough it's not used any more
19:08.50Luxor2bad.
19:09.18LuxorI'll just create my own and add a link to it everywhere possible.
19:09.31LuxorT1 conventional, t2 energetic, t3 paradigmatic.
19:09.44LuxorSimple, but still needs considering
19:09.57Monetparadigmatic?
19:11.08Luxor~Manipulating laws of physics
19:11.12Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Stats
19:11.24LuxorThat's the page!
19:11.28Ghel"Energetic" and "paradigmatic" are exceptionally vague anyway.
19:11.54LuxorIn my idea a railgun would be example of t2.
19:12.04LuxorThough it depends on it's projectile type
19:12.15LuxorBut anyway, that's the page I was looking for.
19:12.55MonetI'd consider railguns conventional
19:13.04MonetJust another way of propelling a bullet really
19:13.10GhelI didn't mean that I couldn't tell what was in the categories... but I certainly wasn't expecting you to say railguns are energy weapons. :P
19:13.50MonetPlasma weapons might be iffy to catergorise in this regard as well
19:14.22MonetThey're not one of the classical states of matter but they're not a form of energy either.
19:15.19Ghel"Energy" isn't a substance anyway. Plasma's close enough to a classical state of matter to be viewed as a sort of kinetic-incendiary weapon.
19:15.32LuxorIt's fiction universe, it'd do the thing
19:15.40Luxorlaws of physics and Newton are nonsense
19:16.15GhelThere's willing suspension of disbelief to consider. The SporeWikiverse is mostly real-world physics besides Essence (although some of the engineering is unrealistic).
19:16.54LuxorYeah, I know, but... meh.
19:17.24MonetWe do take some liberties with physics, but we're not Gurenn Lagann p;
19:17.29Monet:p
19:17.34Luxorhur hur
19:17.50LuxorI need to get better graphics carfd
19:18.13Luxor*card*, that's annoying because I need some minutes to planet to render in Space Engine...
19:20.12XhoWell I'm gonna go and remake Kaicaiusarin
19:21.16MonetKay
19:21.17LuxorSometimes I look at your work on wikia, and I can't believe you guys made so many incredible stories in... ~7 yrs
19:21.31LuxorThough I rarely read them all anyway
19:21.36MonetIts okay
19:21.44MonetNo denying there is a *lot* to read
19:22.04Luxor10^10^10-1
19:22.28ImperiosOh hi Tybusen
19:22.53ImperiosTybusen: Sorry for not giving you these 3,50 Euros back BTW, I'll try to repay you somehow
19:23.07LuxorGabeN shall be please with your donation
19:23.21MonetImperios: PayPal's good for that
19:25.07ImperiosDo you have any more pictures of us together BTW?
19:25.11ImperiosBecause I only have one
19:25.18Luxor*Tell me how bad he looks: http://imgur.com/e0KjPmc
19:25.44ImperiosLuxor: That's actually very good
19:26.13LuxorAnd now, what was the inspiration:
19:26.17DrodoEmpireThat's pretty freaking cool
19:26.27Luxorhttp://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Loki/Prime
19:28.43ImperiosBTW are you that new Polish guy I've been hearing about?
19:29.26ImperiosMonet: I do not have PayPal unfortunately
19:30.38MonetLuxor: A pretty good helmet
19:31.30HachimanMonet: Physics exist in Gurren Lagann, it is acknowledged by the main characters in the series that they are altering and / or breaking them
19:32.50HachimanThink Ork logic hur
19:32.50MonetHachiman: Yeah something like Ork logic was on my mind
19:32.50MonetI was tempted to quip "Star Trek" but that tried to epxlai nthe crazy science
19:33.06HachimanThe main characters distort and alter physics via collective belief
19:33.12MonetWell except for the Heisenberg COmpensator.
19:33.32MonetAll we really know abou howt the Compensators work is "very well"
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19:33.44ImperiosAlright so this new Luxor guy is Polish
19:33.48ImperiosThis will be fun
19:36.00Wormy_He needs to stay on IRC longer.
19:36.00GhelAlthough physics is really just how stuff works. So the possibility of altering what we know of as the laws of physics is itself just some fictional physics.
19:36.00Wormy_I was cooking and eating an Australian pie floater!
19:37.30Wormy_http://media1.oakpark.com/Images/2/2/9030/2/1/2_2_9030_2_1_690x520.jpg
19:37.41Wormy_not actually mine
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19:39.08LuxorBack
19:39.17Wormy_hi
19:39.19Luxorhttp://imgur.com/p4N2jkf
19:39.23DrodoEmpireWelcome back
19:39.25LuxorMade this from last screen
19:39.27DrodoEmpireWormy: Ooh nice
19:39.32LuxorIt could become awesome wallpaper
19:40.50Luxor.test
19:40.55LuxorStill works
19:41.31LuxorWormy, do you have link for main resource classification page?
19:41.31Wormy_It was nice, a pea soup with cream, fresh mint and a pie.  Like I say, everything goes with pie
19:42.07Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Important_topics%2FResources
19:42.17Wormy_I still need to actually fill in the descriptions
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19:42.52Luxor_~
19:43.18Luxor_meh, net errors
19:44.57Luxor_Okay, gotta appear tomorrow
19:45.04Luxor_Goodnight, cya!
19:46.37Wormy_I'm thinking about renaming the topic
19:47.22Wormy_Because the structure of the page works only for ore deposits. it is not broad enough for *all* resources, even building stone.
19:48.26Wormy_Either  Resources/Minerals or Topics/Mineral resources
19:49.27Wormy_Or to save us from a myriad of resource pages:  Topics/Mineral deposits
19:50.39Wormy_of course is Luxor stayed for longer I could have said this earlier
19:50.59Wormy_but if he's gone to bed I assume he is not currently editing anything
19:51.03DrodoEmpireAndasium will need to be put in with this I think
19:51.06Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3b/Kaicaiusarin2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150727195020 Kaicaiusarin is an independent void woman who needs no chaotic god man
19:51.24GhelYou could put the sections in a tabber so the page can have more info on it without being overcrowded.
19:52.01ImpyDroidXho: Kaicaiusian
19:52.26Xhowat
19:53.12Wormy_I certainly think tabbers should go with the mineral database, but I think it should be more strickly about minerals than every definition of a resource
19:55.56GhelAre you editing the page now?
19:56.20Wormy_Not today
19:56.25HachimanXho: She has a pretty face
19:56.41XhoKaicausarin - thanks <3
19:57.02GhelAll right. I just moved to Important_Topics instead of Important_topics. Didn't want to do that if you were editing it.
20:05.28Wormy_No problem, it was exactly the question I had when Luxor left.#
20:06.49MonetI'm tempted to give legs back to the 1st-form Draconis.
20:07.15MonetBeing snakebodied they don't entirely fit with the other kinds of life on Alcanti.
20:08.26MonetAnd if they do have those small arms on their lower bodies, would they still eb able to compete with the native Coarlatus?
20:09.14HachimanWell note that humans were not apex predators
20:09.38HachimanI imagine the limbs could still construct and utilise tools
20:09.52Wormy_Yes, I agree
20:11.03MonetTrue, but even without them humans were at one time decent hunters.
20:11.26MonetBut its mostly that genetically they don't quite fit unless their lower-body arms used to be legs.
20:11.46Wormy_Some species of hominid would get up, close and personal with prey.
20:14.08MonetThough fro mwhat i have those lower-body arms o nthe snakeconis design are used interchangeably as arms and legs.
20:14.33GhelArms generally evolve from legs anyway.
20:15.24MonetYeah but what I meant was that it was still common for them to be used for standing
20:16.11GhelAh, right.
20:17.11XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/11006441_1553746388237379_7036676175364630068_n.jpg?oh=15cd8056e938b0840ed259a309754531&oe=564EA008 I laughed
20:18.47Hachimanolol
20:33.26HachimanSo I am watching a group of people play a sci-fi/fantasy tabletop game and one of the players rolled up a character who is, in basic, an unarmed, mutant pacifist monk who has a 14 inch tentacle tipped with a stinging barb replacing his right arm, which he keeps in a sock that is always warm as a sheath, and practices in the martial art of Cthu-Fu
20:34.09DrodoEmpirewat
20:34.13HachimanHe ended up with the most unfortunate and ridiculous rolls during character creation but he is actually the most potent member of the group of four players
20:34.36DrodoEmpireolol
20:36.10HachimanThe tentacle is described as being reminiscent to a literal mass of muscle tissue thus is very powerful when used in combat, alongside the addition of the venomous barb at the end
20:36.46MonetIIRC tentacles are often pure muscle.
20:36.53MonetAnd a bit of fat
20:37.03HachimanSo potent that it actually penetrated through a humanoid enemy's chest and out of its back
20:37.47HachimanAnd note that this guy is a pacifist hur
20:38.19MonetPacifist doesn't always translate ot harmless lol
20:38.27HachimanAye
20:40.37HachimanThe other characters consist of a cyborg mage who can tame and communicate with wild animals who has what equates to a reptilian hellhound as their animal companion, a dagger-using skillmonkey who has the gift of the gab, and a prophetic mage who is also a woman trapped in a man's body
20:43.16Monet"Gentlemen...and ladies I guess - Welcome. To Operation Mindfuck!"
20:44.06Hachimanhur
20:44.45Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Military#Distribution I shored up some of my military numbers
20:44.55HachimanIt gets funny when the skillmonkey asks the prophetic mage about whether or not (s)he ever used the genitalia of the male body their inhabit
20:47.14MonetNow a single Imperial legion outnumbers the population of the United States.- and the Imperium still fields *hundreds* of legions.
20:47.28HachimanJesus
20:47.50MonetNo wait maths fail
20:48.08MonetEach legion is about 16.2 millino soldiers
20:48.58Monet20 of those make a "standing army", which is what outpopulates the USA
20:51.13MonetHowever a single legion is still 16x larger than the present United States Army.
20:54.41MonetWe're fucked if the DI ever attacks.
20:56.52MonetAdmirals might be scarier.
20:57.04MonetConsidering the numebrs they have command over.
20:57.43HachimanTrue but numbers are not always the most efficient means of winning a war
20:57.53HachimanUnless the numbers are so tremendously large
20:58.30XhoSo a single legion is 16.2 million
20:58.38XhoThe entire army of the Kicath is 329 million
20:58.43XhoKicath army tiny man
21:00.14GhelAs command over 16.2 million ground soldiers corresponds to command over one ship... I take it they don't always fit all of those soldiers into a single vessel?
21:00.29MonetThe Draconis have access to a lot of cannon fodde-- I mean valued recruits.
21:00.49MonetGhel: The ground ranks are more generous.
21:00.54GhelCannon fodder is valuable. Cannons have to eat something you know.
21:02.18MonetI imagine it would be an admiral's or ocmmodore's job to decide which captians get authority over which legions
21:04.28MonetIts more likely that the legionnaires would eb transported in large transports rather than a captain's vessel.
21:05.20GhelThat makes the logistics of large ground battles more manageable.
21:05.46Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11817093_1080449551999121_4015713744404089679_n.jpg?oh=c9c342ccb920156aa71659b22ca67f1e&oe=56150B21
21:07.01MonetPast Admiral the ranks become more administrative
21:09.09MonetActually I just realised that my ranking system doesn't account for wings/flotillas
21:09.42MonetCommanders could be i ncharge of ships, captains could be in charge of wings
21:10.05MonetThe DI already gives commodores command over multiple battlefleets
21:12.36HachimanSo apparently there are various species of frogs that possess teeth
21:15.45Wormy_Surely one DI ship could defeat Earth within hours or days
21:16.59Wormy_Complete eradication = Easy.  Complete assimilation = more difficult, but nanotech.  Conquered as DI member = Now we are talking a longer but futile resistance.
21:17.43HachimanYeah, I imagine it would be difficult for the DI to actually "conquer" Earth
21:18.36HachimanAlthough their frontline tech is much better than our own, although if we are fortunate to manage to get a hold of it from looting or scavenging remains we can always reverse-engineer it
21:19.26Wormy_But to be honest, I can't think of many reasons aliens would want to attack us, so I concur with those arguments.  One could could even argue aliens might squash us by accident, but then hiding isn't going to help us, because maybe wouldn't mean to clear us out the way.
21:20.45Wormy_I suppose we might vey lucky in taking out a few vehicles or soldiers
21:21.10Wormy_Even DI tech must malfunction
21:21.34HachimanI am certain that if extraterrestrials did accidentally devastate the infrastructure of Earth and eradicate our species, they could surely recreate us
21:22.01DrodoEmpireAliens actually attacking earth would end like the Anglo-Zulu war. :p. We, the Zulu, may score one or two great victories but the technological disparity will mean they'll mean little in the context of the whole war.
21:22.17DrodoEmpireBut after the conquest long-standing tensions would remain.
21:22.27Wormy_This makes me wonder what the DCP does with Pre-Interstellar civilisations.  They would likely absorb them, as the DCP are not complete jerks that they'd want Earth's resources when there are much easier ones.
21:23.19DrodoEmpire(And also when even fighting civilians we'd take heavy losses,again like the Anglo-Zulu war)
21:23.28DrodoEmpireRorke's Drift comes to mind
21:25.17HachimanIt is also more beneficial and ethical - from a human standpoint - to engage in trade of some form than to outright commit to conquest
21:25.40DrodoEmpireYeah
21:26.19HachimanAlthough granted we may not be able to provide extraterrestrials with something they desire from trade relations
21:26.21Wormy_AD in a nutshell http://imgur.com/gallery/lUAis
21:27.13HachimanSince what would a vastly superior sufficiently-advanced extraterrestrial interstellar society desire from a divided pre-interstellar conglomerate of societies
21:27.37DrodoEmpireWormy: olol
21:27.47Wormy_DCP - cannon fodder
21:28.32Wormy_On a side note it is not impossible there are transplanted humans in the DCP
21:30.04HachimanWell there are transplanted humans residing in the DI
21:31.37Wormy_I have considered that if/in the DCP-Yamato conflict, the DCP might have been more open back then to other cultures, and there might have been cultural influences on both, possible people.  Like the Warlord (or equivalent rank back then) defecting to the Yamato
21:31.53Wormy_*possibly]
21:32.06Wormy_The DCP saw this as a threat and became even more closed off
21:32.34HachimanYeah that makes sense
21:33.20Wormy_brb
21:52.57HachimanMentioning Yamato has me thinking again
21:53.25HachimanPerhaps Yamato's incarnation of the Samurai functions as their sort of equivalent to Space Marines / Astartes
21:54.12DrodoEmpireThat'd be cool
21:54.32HachimanTranshuman cybernetically- and genetically-enhanced super-warriors whose "clans" are assigned to significant corporate, political, and royal entities
21:55.30HachimanAlthough unlike Astartes and like Samurai, they would sorta have families of their own
21:55.36HachimanI mean, they are still people
21:59.55Wormy_They sound badarse.  I dislike the "humans are puny" trope.
22:00.15HachimanWell Yamato humans could be considered posthumans of a sort
22:00.16Wormy_There must be competant human fighters in the universe
22:00.44HachimanI remember you talking about neo-Vikings for the Fjord League once
22:00.59HachimanAlso remember that Hachiman is a posthuman hur
22:01.14DrodoEmpireWormy: Yeah, seeing as warfare as moved away from brute strength quite a lot, and I don't see the trend reversing. :p
22:01.47DrodoEmpireA human armed with an assault rifle could pretty easily kill a big eight-foot tall alien armed with nothing but a club.
22:01.59DrodoEmpireDespite being feeble in terms of physical prowess by comparison
22:02.42Wormy_Humans might still be as strong as many other species though.  That's why I like Monet's story where a DI or AGC human overpowers an alien
22:04.06DrodoEmpireYeahh...
22:04.18DrodoEmpireI really don't like how every alien *must* be stronger or smarter than humans
22:04.45XhoWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbrJGXN6-Y You want trippy here you go
22:04.56Wormy_Yes, the Fjord League discovered a transplated Viking culture that hadn't advanced much.  To save them from illegal visitations (and the threat of disease), they made the error of uplifting the culture.  Which went badly because the planet ended up with a mix bag of technologies and warlords, and then started to become raiders of local region
22:05.22HachimanThat is pretty awesome
22:07.37Wormy_Xho:  Maybe Thomas's chimney can act as a pipe
22:08.06XhoHuffing that in would be deadly
22:08.37Wormy_Thomas And Freinds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujHkvi3DKI4
22:09.36XhoWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYkSb7wtj0E You might like this
22:12.12Wormy_it's agreeable
22:12.24XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nN-4bydOKc Meshuggah recorded this for Fredrik's birthday one year
22:13.14HachimanSweet Jesus
22:14.04XhoWormy_: You'd like Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects (which that video is one of theirs)
22:14.54HachimanI just realised, this is poking fun at Sol Niger Within hur
22:15.00XhoPretty much
22:15.12HachimanIs that Jens on vocals?
22:15.17XhoYeah I think so
22:15.21XhoEither that or Tomas
22:15.37XhoWormy_: In extension you'd probably like Allan Holdsworth's stuff
22:15.54Wormy_I'll have a look
22:18.05Wormy_it's like Gong meets extreme metal
22:18.41XhoSol Niger Within isn't something you should listen to if you're tripping out
22:18.42Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UArtHsvL50
22:18.47XhoI'd imagine it would be like getting pulled into hell
22:19.33Wormy_I imagine
22:20.20XhoI mean that's what it sounds like normally
22:21.13Wormy_I wouldn't want to listen to any of this music if I was tripping lol
22:21.47Wormy_Not sure I'd want to end up in a giant Elf's teacup
22:21.57Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11755905_1609392402642572_263061256897113812_n.jpg?oh=47868d27d35ce8bff67f4faf88e44271&oe=56540EDF Okay now this is just
22:22.22Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11036661_1456701494653899_2462336820568132931_n.jpg?oh=5279cde27f69b3d3b2b7ca3705b58ce8&oe=565BDAA5 And the top comment
22:22.31Wormy_My dog is like that.  Jackal and Hyde
22:29.19Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/ahAE51E
22:30.59Wormy_Xho:  Weirdest part of this album https://youtu.be/3UArtHsvL50?t=14m54s
22:35.37XhoSounds like me when I'm forced to to manual labour at work
22:38.23Wormy_lul
22:39.30Xho"NNNNNGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH"
22:40.15HachimanSounds like 2010-era SporeWiki
22:40.35XhoSounds about right
22:41.52XhoWell according to people at work I am an evil bastard
22:42.00MonetAwayWormy_: In terms of raw firepower, a single DI ship might be able to devastate Earth.
22:42.20MonetAwayBut the Earth might be too big for a marine garrison alone ot conquer it
22:43.25Wormy_Ohgod that era
22:44.01Wormy_I suppose, they could devastate our armies, but without technological enslavement, we'd be hard to control
22:44.31MonetWell they do have a knack for meme theory.
22:46.16MonetYou suggested nanotech too, plausable.
22:46.47MonetWhat about deals between human and Draconid executives?
22:47.30MonetAaand something just hit me
22:47.35XhoWell according to Facebook, the typical amount of affection my dad's side of the family gives to one another is through the word 'mong'
22:47.46XhoThis is what you get when you're raised in Southampton
22:48.06XhoEspecially the rough area
22:48.12Hachimanhur
22:48.30MonetWormy_: "Introducing the iPhone 10, powered by alien quasicrystals for all the speed you need."
22:50.22MonetIs that what you mean by technological enslavement?
22:50.28Wormy_Lol, that would sweeten the deal
22:50.39XhoI just realised, Kaicaiusarin is the only female Simulacrum
22:50.48Wormy_I meant metods like memes, nanotech or something along those lines, yeah
22:50.50HachimanNo she ain't
22:50.55HachimanImp's Kali'searan
22:51.00Xhowait wat
22:51.13Xhobut dats a cat
22:51.29HachimanStill a Simulacra woman
22:51.39Wormy_If the Ddraconid executives could solve the world' ills, that would also open things up in public consciousness
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22:51.50HachimanShe is referred to with female pronouns hur
22:52.10XhoKaicaiusarin - ur a psycho biiiitch
22:52.23XhoSo says the psycho bitch
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22:53.42MonetWormy_: That usually works, yeah.
22:54.00HachimanSo based on her new model, I can safely say that Kaicaiusarin has the capacity to provide six simultaneous handjobs
22:54.10MonetOh you
22:54.32HachimanPart of me is wondering whether that is impressive or if that is outright horrifying
22:54.48MonetBoth :>
22:55.16MonetWormy_: Given the DI's more capitalist tones as of late, an occupied Earth would be seen by the broader Imperium as a new market to explore.
22:55.34XhoConsidering her physical form is over six thousand feet tall
22:55.36XhoHorrifying
22:55.42MonetWat.
22:56.04XhoOh yeah she's big
22:56.09MonetDat no longer sexy.
22:56.13HachimanYeah but considering she is a Simulacra, I imagine she can change her size
22:56.15XhoI mean in reality she can assume any size she wants
22:56.16Xhoc
22:56.24Hachimanfukn ninja
22:56.32Xhour a CUNT
22:56.36Xhokicks Hachiman
22:56.50Hachiman;~;
22:57.15XhoBut when she was imprisoned she was of that size
22:59.11MonetWormy_: So yeah, an occupation by the Draconis has an upside in that they'd sell us ship-loads of new toys to buy. As wel las stuff that could improve quality of life massively.
22:59.50MonetMight also bee a boom for the construction industry in more ways than one lol
23:04.18MonetThough if Earth surrenders, would it be the UN secretary-general who gets a spot o nthep rovincial council or someone else?
23:05.35MonetNot gonna lie though, Ban Ki-Moon being the human rep in an intergalactic coalition/empire would be awesome.
23:07.00HachimanAye hur
23:07.12XhoHachiman:  So what exactly is Id meant to look like
23:07.36HachimanGiant tentacle / coral forest thing
23:07.42XhoFor some reason I imagine it being almost completely blank save for brief moments of absolute horror
23:07.45Xhorite
23:07.47HachimanWith non-euclidian geometry
23:08.03XhoCaligaduro - man isiris dun fuked u up gud
23:08.21HachimanCrux - MOOF
23:08.43XhoCaligaduro - rite
23:09.01XhoI do wonder what would happen if Caligaduro and Crux communed with each other
23:09.32HachimanIt would be like talking to a very angry wild dog
23:09.43MonetMountains would explode.
23:09.50XhoCrux - RRRRRRR             Caligaduro - SHUT THE FUCK UP
23:10.16Hachimaninb4 Crux attempts to mount Caligaduro's leg
23:11.02XhoCaligaduro - id              more liek a fukin cage to put ur punk ass in
23:11.05MonetCaligaduro could have a bottle of squirting water to fend him off.
23:11.28Wormy_Damnit in F3, those Yei Gui turned me into a crying wuss
23:11.41XhoYao Guai right
23:11.50XhoYes the Yao Guai are fucking scary
23:12.12Wormy_their pack surrounded me out of nowhere
23:12.19MonetI can't hear the name and not think of Yogi Bear
23:13.04XhoTypical Fallout 3 scene:                Walking through the Wasteland -> Random V.A.T.S for security -> Yao Guai 5 millimetres behind you
23:13.15MonetYao Guai - Deadlier than the average bear!
23:13.24Wormy_Mon:  I agree on Ban Ki-Moon having that job]
23:16.14Wormy_And Brian Cox being in the team to meet the DI reps at first formal contact
23:17.16XhoHachiman: I updated Caligaduro's quote on the Crux' page
23:17.30HachimanStephen Hawking, Bill Nye, and Neil deGrasse Tyson
23:17.54XhoI think Caligaduro might resent Crux going insane because of Isiris
23:18.05HachimanXho: tanks
23:18.08XhoCould've had another servant out of him
23:18.27HachimanCrux was pretty reclusive prior to his insanity
23:18.29MonetThis and looking at Mr. Ban's wikipedia page is giving me the thought of drawing Brian Cox, Ban Ki-Moon and Uriel in a picture together.
23:19.00XhoCaligaduro - IT'S GOOFY TIME                    Crux - NO DAD  NO
23:20.47Xho"Cthulhu vs Godzilla"
23:20.48XhoOkay
23:20.51XhoThat's just dumb
23:21.16XhoGreat Old One vs Kaiju
23:21.50HachimanEh I dunno, Great Old Ones are practically the weakest deities in the Lovecraftian pantheon
23:21.59Wormy_I don't know the answer to that question lol
23:22.54MonetHachiman: They're still so powerful that they never really appeared in the flesh safe for Cthulhu.
23:22.58XhoWhat about the Outer Gods then
23:23.56HachimanOuter Gods are the strongest as far as I know
23:24.11HachimanConsidering Azathoth is one of them
23:24.20MonetEven King Gidorah would think twice about that sort of fight.
23:24.49HachimanI reckon Cthulhu could be challenged by the likes of Kaiju although Cthulhu will inevitably win
23:25.09XhoIsn't Azathoth like at the very top of the pantheon
23:25.36XhoEvidently I don't know much about Lovecraft although it's exactly the kind of thing I  do
23:25.36HachimanConsidering Cthulhu can resize himself theoretically infinitely and can regenerate from even the most severe and otherwise fatal forms of damage rather swiftly
23:25.51HachimanXho: Considering Azathoth is at the centre of the universe, yeah
23:26.21MonetYeah, Godzilla vs Cthulhu doesn't sound that promising.
23:27.02MonetEven if big C is only a Great Old One, he's still a walking mindfuck.
23:27.12HachimanYeah
23:28.24HachimanThere are implications that there are elements and aspects to particular races and Great Old Ones that exist only in higher dimensions
23:28.56MonetWHen it comes down to it, it sounds more like a battle of popularity.
23:29.51HachimanGodzilla could probably take on a Star-Spawn of Cthulhu however
23:30.36XhoI wonder whether Crux is the only entity that can look upon Caligaduro and not go completely off the rails
23:30.37MonetI can already picture Gojira fans trying to pull all sorts - like his "king of monsters" or "protector of the Earth" titles - to give evidence as to why big-G would win
23:31.00XhoEither that or he looks at Caligaduro and goes sane
23:31.15Hachimanhur
23:31.49XhoCrux - FRENCH TOAST                  Caligaduro - look at me                               Crux - i am the very model of a modern major general
23:32.11HachimanMonet: Well there are multiple Godzillas in the Japanese canon and Godzilla has died permanently before
23:32.17MonetCrux - AAARGARAGGHGHH *Looks at Caligaduro* My heavens was I in a bad mood!
23:32.49XhoIn most intentions, Caligaduro would rather keep Crux sane to make the destruction of Koldenwelt easier
23:32.50Wormy_How would the Chaos gods from WH40K fair against the Outer Gods?
23:32.50MonetHachiman: One of them is Godzilla Jr. isn't it?
23:33.05Xhoinsane*
23:33.06HachimanMonet: Yeah
23:33.07Xhobah
23:33.18XhoI need to go to sleep now
23:33.22MonetWormy_: Actually that's a good question
23:33.45MonetI read somewhere that the Chaos Gods are jsut too powerful to manifest in the physical realm.
23:33.48Wormy_clash of grimdarkness with cosmic indifferentism
23:34.01HachimanWormy_: Probably not so well considering the Chaos Gods depend on the flow of emotions of sapient life, such as humanity and the Eldar, to grant themselves power while the Outer Gods do not even register sapient life
23:34.15Wormy_hm, good point
23:34.40HachimanThe Chaos Gods are amplified, personified aspects of the sapient condition
23:34.40Monethttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c4/Khorne_by_alexboca.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140603022205 that's Khorne, already looking a little eldritch
23:36.42MonetAmplified, sapient personificaations of the sapient condition, but still immensely powerful
23:37.32MonetAt the very least they'd give the Great Old Ones a challenge
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23:41.40Wormy_Found this from TVtropes, Cultureverse meerts 40K http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?256776-The-Culture-v-s-40kverse
23:41.48MonetThey were largely inspired by Lovecraft's work.
23:42.57Wormy_http://archiveofourown.org/works/649448/chapters/1181375
23:45.09Wormy_bbl
23:45.15Monet"So, out of pure curiosity, whatever hapened to the usual arguments of "40K weapons and armor are automatically a zillion times better than everybody else's just because, termodynamics, logic and actual results portrayed in the fluff/crunch be damned". "Because whatever fluff technobabble 40k has, the Culture has the same and so much more, and more efficient too. "
23:45.36MonetThis one made me giggle
23:46.19Hachimanhur
23:46.46Wormy_The Culture would be a complete stomp
23:47.02Wormy_And yet they do probably do it without slaying anyone
23:48.37MonetGD and I once entertained the idea of the DI attacking a Hive World and the Astartes arriving to end the invasion
23:51.29MonetSM's vs. Talon Marine Corps.
23:53.43Wormy_I read this as the police trying to arrest a hologram http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33679847
23:57.21Wormy_MERS cases possibly in the UK http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-33675356
23:57.30MonetI get the feeling that Keef's fans were mreo than "a little dissapointed"

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