00:03.40 | Wormy_paegs | thanks |
00:03.56 | Wormy_paegs | no problem I'm still busy on the elemental page |
00:35.27 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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01:51.47 | Tek0516 | This is so sad. Kanye West is out of tempo for his own performance. XD |
01:52.13 | Technobliterator | Oh? |
01:53.27 | MonetAway | Too much time spent feeding his own ego |
01:55.38 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Seen the new Samilinus? |
01:56.41 | Technobliterator | Yup! |
01:56.58 | OluapPlayer | Thoughts? |
01:56.59 | Technobliterator | I think this version is better, yeah |
01:57.07 | Tek0516 | It's hilarious how much quieter the applause was when he started performing |
01:57.34 | Technobliterator | and the main picture is more fitting given what the Samilinus are for |
01:57.50 | Technobliterator | nice work |
01:57.55 | Technobliterator | Tek0516, which song? |
01:58.57 | Tek0516 | Too many. |
01:59.15 | Technobliterator | I mean, which song is he out of tempo for/ |
01:59.17 | Technobliterator | ? |
01:59.43 | Technobliterator | He's normally a great performer, he doesn't really have a history of doing that |
02:00.56 | Tek0516 | Well it was the intro of some song of his. You could see and even hear him clapping off-beat |
02:01.33 | Technobliterator | Well, he has a history of screwing up on stage, but only when performing other songs : | |
02:01.43 | Technobliterator | gimme a line or two? |
02:02.05 | Tek0516 | It was like 5 songs ago. |
02:02.25 | Tek0516 | Oh god, he's finally done. -.- |
02:02.29 | Technobliterator | oh |
02:02.33 | Technobliterator | aw |
02:02.56 | Technobliterator | out of interest, what are you watching? |
02:03.09 | Tek0516 | Pan Am games closing ceremonies |
02:03.25 | Technobliterator | Oh, right |
02:03.57 | Monet | I hear "Pan Am" and all I can think of is the former airline |
02:04.29 | Tek0516 | They're doing fireworks off the CN Tower now |
02:05.01 | Tek0516 | From here it looks like its on fire. XD |
02:05.07 | Technobliterator | Let me have a look |
02:06.44 | Technobliterator | lol there was a petition against him performing there |
02:07.06 | Technobliterator | It's a shame this guy has ruined his image so badly that everyone hates his guts |
02:07.26 | Tek0516 | Yep |
02:08.36 | Technobliterator | The Kanye West of so many years back would've been applauded |
02:08.41 | Technobliterator | But now...sigh |
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10:13.27 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
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10:50.58 | Wormy_ | I don't want a milliuon bloody passwords |
10:51.13 | Wormy_ | Or to to think of one every time I enter a site |
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11:51.21 | Hachiman | Hai |
11:51.48 | Monet | Hello |
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11:59.35 | Hachiman | Fucking internet |
12:02.24 | Wormy_ | Hachi: You might find this interesting http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Elemental_energy |
12:04.20 | Hachiman | Wormy_: So what about the offensive capability of Elemental? |
12:05.39 | Wormy_ | Directly comparable to other kinds of essence, but it can drain the user or even harm them if they are not enlightened enough |
12:06.28 | Wormy_ | It depends how developed they are I suppose |
12:06.48 | Wormy_ | For a dark adept trying to learn elemental would be the slowest route |
12:07.21 | Hachiman | I suppose that's fair enough |
12:07.41 | Hachiman | I suppose Elemental is more optimal for stuff like healing and such |
12:07.52 | Hachiman | Utility uses rather than combat ones |
12:09.03 | Wormy_ | It's greatest power is the ability to explore the infinity within, and learn how essence flows in the body |
12:11.37 | Wormy_ | It is also its greatest weakness, because a being caught up with trying to obtain powers can become limited by it |
12:12.20 | Hachiman | Yeah, I can understand that |
12:12.22 | Wormy_ | I suppose that describes ascension and descension nicely? |
12:12.31 | Wormy_ | for elemental anyway |
12:12.32 | Hachiman | Elemental is more than just powers after all |
12:19.23 | Wormy_ | I feel as though elemental now has more connection with other metaphysical concepts. Before it was "elemental" without describing why |
12:23.03 | Monet | bbl |
12:50.17 | Wormy_ | Dropped your keys in a lack hole today? Sean Carroll will help you get them back http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2015/07/24/guest-post-aidan-chatwin-davies-on-recovering-one-qubit-from-a-black-hole/ |
12:50.22 | Wormy_ | black hole |
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13:00.28 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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14:18.25 | Hachiman | Hai |
14:18.31 | OluapPlayer | Blegh |
14:18.44 | Ghelae | Hello. |
14:19.29 | OluapPlayer | I've been having problems all morning |
14:19.32 | OluapPlayer | Now Steam won't open |
14:23.24 | OluapPlayer | Fucking |
14:23.25 | OluapPlayer | bbl |
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14:52.28 | Monet | Hello |
14:54.24 | Hachiman | Hai |
15:56.58 | Technobliterator | choosing a game to buy |
15:57.01 | Technobliterator | struggle is real |
15:57.08 | Monet | Which games? |
15:58.21 | Technobliterator | either one of the Sly games, Jak II, Jak 3, or one of the Spyro games |
15:58.45 | Technobliterator | budget: 12 quid |
15:58.47 | Technobliterator | only for vita |
15:59.05 | Monet | I hear the Sly games are pretty good. |
15:59.34 | Technobliterator | I played them all, I'm not sure if I like them enough, though |
16:00.29 | Hachiman | Go Spyro or Jak |
16:09.35 | Wormy_away | Stephen Hawking on Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/3eret9/science_ama_series_i_am_stephen_hawking/ |
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16:13.42 | Jepardi | Hi |
16:14.40 | Wormy_away | I knew this sort of shit still goes on but not as close as the Faroe islands https://www.facebook.com/captpaulwatson/photos/a.443115070931.234296.155430570931/10153371273530932/?type=1 |
16:19.16 | Wormy_away | "fools I challenge captain Paul Watson and all the whale lovers on here to try and survive a full year on the Faroe Islands without eating whale meat or using whale sourced products" |
16:20.05 | Wormy_away | They are slaughtered for fun |
16:20.24 | Wormy_away | Or maybe they should fucking modernise |
16:23.10 | Hachiman | I can understand whale farming |
16:23.22 | Hachiman | But mass slaughter is wrong |
16:24.05 | Hachiman | I do not see how they cannot support a different form of farming industry that focuses on the farming of terrestrial animals though |
16:24.49 | Hachiman | brb |
16:24.49 | Wormy_away | I cannot believe they will starve without whale meat. |
16:25.44 | Wormy_away | They are modern in everything but that practise. They can trade, or catch fish, and so on. Plus it gets sold in resturants so that is hardly an austerity |
16:26.13 | Wormy_away | Scottish islands just south of the Faroes do without |
16:26.30 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Time - Done. |
16:40.14 | Monet | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet?from=Main.HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet just stumbled across this |
16:41.36 | Wormy_away | I hope they all get mercury poisoning quite frankly |
16:44.18 | Monet | I think the DI does okay with phase five. |
16:44.27 | Monet | What with Pax Draconica and all |
16:50.47 | Wormy_away | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EasilyThwartedAlienInvasion |
16:50.53 | Wormy_away | this one is interesting |
16:51.25 | Wormy_away | >The Road Not Taken |
16:52.29 | Monet | I can't rememebr where I found it but there's a line that points osmething like this out when writing |
16:53.21 | Monet | Something along the lines of "unlike fiction, reality has no compulsion to make sense" |
16:57.25 | Wormy_away | Our common sense is actually wrong in the face of scientific theories. |
16:57.43 | Monet | If an advanced and numerically superior alien warfleet comes to our planet, we *will* get our asses handed to us. |
16:58.04 | Monet | SOme of these are interesting playabouts |
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16:59.05 | Imperios | Hiya! |
16:59.10 | Monet | Hello |
16:59.19 | Wormy_ | Our common sense is that matter is solid, that you feel the force of gravity, that time is absolute fixed reference, that time actually flows, and that objects belong in one state of the universe. |
16:59.23 | Monet | The first Hiver invasion fleet was stopped by Earth firing the majority of its nuclear stockpile at them. *buuut* then we learn that armada was but a tiny colonisation fleet. |
17:01.09 | Monet | (Sword of the Stars) |
17:01.24 | Wormy_ | A story where a Tier 5 civilisation tries to invade Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall |
17:01.49 | Monet | It took the majority of our nuclear arsenal to drive off the Hiver equivilent of a wagon train. |
17:03.48 | Imperios | " In the aftermath, the aliens invade Africa, where they enjoy more success. One result is the end of South African Apartheid. Simply, Whites and Blacks become equal under the rule of the Fithp." |
17:03.51 | Imperios | Brilliant |
17:06.40 | Monet | "dear merciless alien invaders, we ask that should you take us over that you let us keep our cat videos, porn, booze, video games, funny memes and music. We won't be much trouble if you do. Sincerely, the human race" |
17:07.14 | Wormy_ | Of course a Tier 5 could wipe us out unconventionally using asteroid bases and artificial virus but if it was a classic invasion like in Battle: LA I think wer could fighrt back |
17:07.37 | Imperios | "The United States secretly builds a large, heavily armed spacecraft propelled by nuclear bombs " |
17:07.52 | Imperios | Why the United States and not the Republic of India though? |
17:07.54 | Imperios | Gandhi would approve |
17:08.10 | WormY-away | Anything beyond that would absolutely anniilate us before we even knew they were there |
17:10.14 | Monet | Wormy_away: Very true |
17:11.40 | Imperios | Provided that they wimply won't turn us against one another though |
17:12.50 | Monet | Maybe they are |
17:12.57 | Monet | A divided army is a weaker army |
17:14.04 | Monet | I estimate that present-day Earth could be conquered by an ITN lesser admiral. |
17:14.12 | Monet | Two for save measure |
17:15.37 | Monet | Which would equate to at msot, 6,000 starships and 240 million soldiers. |
17:17.17 | Monet | I think I should solidify the command numbers |
17:17.33 | Monet | Using ballpark numbers for the sizes of the variosu divisions of the military looks messy |
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17:21.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hello everyone |
17:21.11 | Monet | Hello |
17:21.14 | Monet | Perfect timing |
17:21.29 | Monet | Because I found this lol http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet?from=Main.HowToInvadeAnAlienPlanet |
17:23.50 | Hachiman | Honestly I no longer see the practicality of invading another world and combating with its inhabitants beyond merely political or corporate justifications |
17:25.17 | Hachiman | Such as occupying Earth to either influence and reshape it into a luxury resort or to maintain the human population as a vassal |
17:25.54 | Monet | THey could always buy up the planet now. |
17:26.02 | Monet | We have the systems, they have the money. |
17:28.51 | Hachiman | If our opposition consists of sufficiently-advanced extraterrestrials, why do they even require us in their equation if most of their infrastructure would already be automatic or beyond the requirement for physical labour |
17:29.24 | Hachiman | Why invade Earth and attempt to enslave or destroy mankind unless we function as practice |
17:29.31 | Monet | That's a good point |
17:29.57 | Monet | Power I guess.. So yeah, I guess the reason would mainly be political |
17:31.57 | Monet | Some of these points do well to sum up that we've been doing things like assassination or anatomical study on ourselves perhaps far longer than any newly-appearing aliens |
17:33.13 | Monet | I recall this is the reason why Exalt soldiers in Xcom don't need to be studied under the knife for identifyign weaknesses; we've know nour own weaknesses for years.. |
17:33.56 | Hachiman | Aye |
17:34.22 | Hachiman | Although EXALT Cells often field genetically-engineered militants in combat |
17:35.43 | Monet | True, but by the tiem they show up Xcom is usually fielding similar mods. |
17:37.31 | Hachiman | Yeah true |
17:37.46 | Hachiman | Plus XCOM's methods of genetic-engineering are far less crude and more refined |
17:38.38 | Hachiman | Due to having actual multinational funding rather than having to rely on scavenging |
17:39.11 | Monet | I do wonder myself where EXALT gets its money |
17:39.55 | Hachiman | Well many EXALT operatives are every-men |
17:40.50 | Monet | However their HQ sets off a few alarm bells - its command centre is a slapdash mirror of XCOM command, complete with a hologlobe but most interestingly of all its in a penthouse and the surrounding corridors are filled with artworks, antique vases and the aood alien artifacts. |
17:41.06 | Monet | odd* |
17:41.27 | Monet | To me that sounds like they're getting their money off someone (or a few people) with deep pockets. |
17:41.29 | Hachiman | I imagine that many EXALT operatives are involved in criminal syndicates and large corporations |
17:41.42 | Monet | Yeah that's what I'm thinking. |
17:42.25 | Hachiman | In fact, they probably hire more people than field people who genuinely believe in EXALT's endgame |
17:43.17 | Monet | EXALT cells are also pretty independant of each other. |
17:43.42 | Hachiman | Mercenaries, criminals, refugees from countries XCOM has failed to protect |
17:43.52 | Monet | And the goal of the EXALT side of the campaign i to piece together where their HQ is by visiting a bunch of different countries. |
17:44.44 | Hachiman | Let us not forget that Sectoids have the capacity to mind-control humans, which means they can probably control or influence significant people such as CEOs and the like |
17:45.34 | Monet | The higher-level Sectoids can |
17:45.51 | Monet | Rank-and-file sectoids can only use their telepathy ebtween each other |
17:47.42 | Hachiman | Still, the point stands |
17:49.47 | Monet | It does. Exalt believed they could advantage humanity by taking advantage of what they aliens werel eaving behind |
17:51.21 | Hachiman | And funnily enough, XCOM was doing the exact same thing |
18:02.14 | Monet | Not all EXALT operatives were mercenaries or criminals. |
18:03.04 | Monet | A lot of the soldiers you meet are dressed in suits, which to me implies that there are a number who work i noffices near to each extraction site. |
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18:03.41 | dino82_ | hello |
18:07.21 | Hachiman | Yeah, as I said, many EXALT operatives are every-men |
18:07.30 | Hachiman | Although white-collar criminals may still apply hur |
18:07.32 | Hachiman | Hi Dino |
18:07.48 | Monet | Hi |
18:08.21 | Monet | White collar crime would net EXALT with mroe money for less of a paper trail |
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18:20.18 | Ghel | Hello. |
18:20.51 | dino82_ | how is allz doing |
18:21.29 | Ghel | I'm okay; how about you? |
18:22.44 | DrodoEmpire | I'm good. |
18:26.55 | dino82_ | great to hear, me too! |
18:27.08 | dino82_ | anything going on on the wiki tonight? |
18:27.45 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno... Maybe I guess. |
18:27.54 | Ghel | There doesn't seem to be much. |
18:28.21 | Ghel | I finished http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Time a little earlier on, and Wormy's been working on rewriting the Elemental Energy page too. |
18:31.08 | dino82_ | oh ok |
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18:48.15 | ImmaFromPolandIt | Hai |
18:48.44 | ImmaFromPolandIt | Meh, cya |
18:48.51 | Xho | He was fun |
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18:58.50 | Luxor | Ahoy everyone! |
18:58.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
18:59.23 | Luxor | Awful, wormy's away |
18:59.32 | Luxor | Ah, and also |
18:59.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
18:59.53 | Luxor | According to resources in SFU, I think we'd need infobox template |
18:59.59 | Luxor | Like empires, etc. |
19:00.17 | DrodoEmpire | We... Have infoboxes. |
19:00.33 | Luxor | I know, but it's hard to configure them using manual edition. |
19:00.44 | Luxor | It'd be better if we could create a template already. |
19:02.33 | Ghel | Are you saying we need a new infobox for something, or that the infoboxes we currently have are unsatisfactory? |
19:02.53 | Luxor | Not that, I meant using... |
19:02.59 | Monet | Luxor: I was sure we already have templates. |
19:03.02 | Luxor | wait, let me copy some of these HTML... |
19:04.01 | Luxor | |main image1 =Eppajah.png |main image1 size =300x100px |label2-1 =Type |content2-2 =Spoken/Written |label3-1 =Origin |content3-2 =Artificial language, fusion of regional dialects |label4-1 =Spread |content4-2 =URN territory |
19:04.19 | Luxor | I mean we should create infobox template for resources, as it is for empires, planets, etc. |
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19:04.30 | Xho | http://www.deviantart.com/art/Spore-The-Vanguard-549310964 Did this |
19:04.32 | Tybusen | Greeting |
19:04.35 | Xho | Hi |
19:04.48 | Luxor | I like his back |
19:04.51 | Ghel | Hello. |
19:04.52 | Luxor | Nice spikes. |
19:04.57 | Luxor | Oh, hai Tybusen. |
19:05.18 | Ghel | Luxor: So the answer to my question was, you think we need a infobox for something (that something being resources). |
19:05.52 | Luxor | Yup |
19:06.09 | Monet | Luxor: it looks like you're using the /docs rather than the infobox tempaltes we have |
19:06.27 | Luxor | I used this for language... |
19:06.40 | Ghel | We do have {{infobox language}}, BTW. |
19:06.49 | Luxor | Oh rl |
19:07.06 | Ghel | But yes, look at http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates |
19:07.16 | Ghel | If you want to make a new infobox, feel free. |
19:07.22 | Luxor | Oh, so thats not a problem |
19:07.25 | Luxor | Nice. |
19:07.59 | Luxor | And also, do we have a general systematics for weapon classes and types? I know there was one, but it seems to be moved and/or deleted |
19:08.17 | Xho | We do |
19:08.23 | Xho | Though it's not used any more |
19:08.50 | Luxor | 2bad. |
19:09.18 | Luxor | I'll just create my own and add a link to it everywhere possible. |
19:09.31 | Luxor | T1 conventional, t2 energetic, t3 paradigmatic. |
19:09.44 | Luxor | Simple, but still needs considering |
19:09.57 | Monet | paradigmatic? |
19:11.08 | Luxor | ~Manipulating laws of physics |
19:11.12 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Stats |
19:11.24 | Luxor | That's the page! |
19:11.28 | Ghel | "Energetic" and "paradigmatic" are exceptionally vague anyway. |
19:11.54 | Luxor | In my idea a railgun would be example of t2. |
19:12.04 | Luxor | Though it depends on it's projectile type |
19:12.15 | Luxor | But anyway, that's the page I was looking for. |
19:12.55 | Monet | I'd consider railguns conventional |
19:13.04 | Monet | Just another way of propelling a bullet really |
19:13.10 | Ghel | I didn't mean that I couldn't tell what was in the categories... but I certainly wasn't expecting you to say railguns are energy weapons. :P |
19:13.50 | Monet | Plasma weapons might be iffy to catergorise in this regard as well |
19:14.22 | Monet | They're not one of the classical states of matter but they're not a form of energy either. |
19:15.19 | Ghel | "Energy" isn't a substance anyway. Plasma's close enough to a classical state of matter to be viewed as a sort of kinetic-incendiary weapon. |
19:15.32 | Luxor | It's fiction universe, it'd do the thing |
19:15.40 | Luxor | laws of physics and Newton are nonsense |
19:16.15 | Ghel | There's willing suspension of disbelief to consider. The SporeWikiverse is mostly real-world physics besides Essence (although some of the engineering is unrealistic). |
19:16.54 | Luxor | Yeah, I know, but... meh. |
19:17.24 | Monet | We do take some liberties with physics, but we're not Gurenn Lagann p; |
19:17.29 | Monet | :p |
19:17.34 | Luxor | hur hur |
19:17.50 | Luxor | I need to get better graphics carfd |
19:18.13 | Luxor | *card*, that's annoying because I need some minutes to planet to render in Space Engine... |
19:20.12 | Xho | Well I'm gonna go and remake Kaicaiusarin |
19:21.16 | Monet | Kay |
19:21.17 | Luxor | Sometimes I look at your work on wikia, and I can't believe you guys made so many incredible stories in... ~7 yrs |
19:21.31 | Luxor | Though I rarely read them all anyway |
19:21.36 | Monet | Its okay |
19:21.44 | Monet | No denying there is a *lot* to read |
19:22.04 | Luxor | 10^10^10-1 |
19:22.28 | Imperios | Oh hi Tybusen |
19:22.53 | Imperios | Tybusen: Sorry for not giving you these 3,50 Euros back BTW, I'll try to repay you somehow |
19:23.07 | Luxor | GabeN shall be please with your donation |
19:23.21 | Monet | Imperios: PayPal's good for that |
19:25.07 | Imperios | Do you have any more pictures of us together BTW? |
19:25.11 | Imperios | Because I only have one |
19:25.18 | Luxor | *Tell me how bad he looks: http://imgur.com/e0KjPmc |
19:25.44 | Imperios | Luxor: That's actually very good |
19:26.13 | Luxor | And now, what was the inspiration: |
19:26.17 | DrodoEmpire | That's pretty freaking cool |
19:26.27 | Luxor | http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Loki/Prime |
19:28.43 | Imperios | BTW are you that new Polish guy I've been hearing about? |
19:29.26 | Imperios | Monet: I do not have PayPal unfortunately |
19:30.38 | Monet | Luxor: A pretty good helmet |
19:31.30 | Hachiman | Monet: Physics exist in Gurren Lagann, it is acknowledged by the main characters in the series that they are altering and / or breaking them |
19:32.50 | Hachiman | Think Ork logic hur |
19:32.50 | Monet | Hachiman: Yeah something like Ork logic was on my mind |
19:32.50 | Monet | I was tempted to quip "Star Trek" but that tried to epxlai nthe crazy science |
19:33.06 | Hachiman | The main characters distort and alter physics via collective belief |
19:33.12 | Monet | Well except for the Heisenberg COmpensator. |
19:33.32 | Monet | All we really know abou howt the Compensators work is "very well" |
19:33.44 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~imperios@95.140.92.80) |
19:33.44 | Imperios | Alright so this new Luxor guy is Polish |
19:33.48 | Imperios | This will be fun |
19:36.00 | Wormy_ | He needs to stay on IRC longer. |
19:36.00 | Ghel | Although physics is really just how stuff works. So the possibility of altering what we know of as the laws of physics is itself just some fictional physics. |
19:36.00 | Wormy_ | I was cooking and eating an Australian pie floater! |
19:37.30 | Wormy_ | http://media1.oakpark.com/Images/2/2/9030/2/1/2_2_9030_2_1_690x520.jpg |
19:37.41 | Wormy_ | not actually mine |
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19:39.08 | Luxor | Back |
19:39.17 | Wormy_ | hi |
19:39.19 | Luxor | http://imgur.com/p4N2jkf |
19:39.23 | DrodoEmpire | Welcome back |
19:39.25 | Luxor | Made this from last screen |
19:39.27 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Ooh nice |
19:39.32 | Luxor | It could become awesome wallpaper |
19:40.50 | Luxor | .test |
19:40.55 | Luxor | Still works |
19:41.31 | Luxor | Wormy, do you have link for main resource classification page? |
19:41.31 | Wormy_ | It was nice, a pea soup with cream, fresh mint and a pie. Like I say, everything goes with pie |
19:42.07 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Important_topics%2FResources |
19:42.17 | Wormy_ | I still need to actually fill in the descriptions |
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19:42.52 | Luxor_ | ~ |
19:43.18 | Luxor_ | meh, net errors |
19:44.57 | Luxor_ | Okay, gotta appear tomorrow |
19:45.04 | Luxor_ | Goodnight, cya! |
19:46.37 | Wormy_ | I'm thinking about renaming the topic |
19:47.22 | Wormy_ | Because the structure of the page works only for ore deposits. it is not broad enough for *all* resources, even building stone. |
19:48.26 | Wormy_ | Either Resources/Minerals or Topics/Mineral resources |
19:49.27 | Wormy_ | Or to save us from a myriad of resource pages: Topics/Mineral deposits |
19:50.39 | Wormy_ | of course is Luxor stayed for longer I could have said this earlier |
19:50.59 | Wormy_ | but if he's gone to bed I assume he is not currently editing anything |
19:51.03 | DrodoEmpire | Andasium will need to be put in with this I think |
19:51.06 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3b/Kaicaiusarin2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150727195020 Kaicaiusarin is an independent void woman who needs no chaotic god man |
19:51.24 | Ghel | You could put the sections in a tabber so the page can have more info on it without being overcrowded. |
19:52.01 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Kaicaiusian |
19:52.26 | Xho | wat |
19:53.12 | Wormy_ | I certainly think tabbers should go with the mineral database, but I think it should be more strickly about minerals than every definition of a resource |
19:55.56 | Ghel | Are you editing the page now? |
19:56.20 | Wormy_ | Not today |
19:56.25 | Hachiman | Xho: She has a pretty face |
19:56.41 | Xho | Kaicausarin - thanks <3 |
19:57.02 | Ghel | All right. I just moved to Important_Topics instead of Important_topics. Didn't want to do that if you were editing it. |
20:05.28 | Wormy_ | No problem, it was exactly the question I had when Luxor left.# |
20:06.49 | Monet | I'm tempted to give legs back to the 1st-form Draconis. |
20:07.15 | Monet | Being snakebodied they don't entirely fit with the other kinds of life on Alcanti. |
20:08.26 | Monet | And if they do have those small arms on their lower bodies, would they still eb able to compete with the native Coarlatus? |
20:09.14 | Hachiman | Well note that humans were not apex predators |
20:09.38 | Hachiman | I imagine the limbs could still construct and utilise tools |
20:09.52 | Wormy_ | Yes, I agree |
20:11.03 | Monet | True, but even without them humans were at one time decent hunters. |
20:11.26 | Monet | But its mostly that genetically they don't quite fit unless their lower-body arms used to be legs. |
20:11.46 | Wormy_ | Some species of hominid would get up, close and personal with prey. |
20:14.08 | Monet | Though fro mwhat i have those lower-body arms o nthe snakeconis design are used interchangeably as arms and legs. |
20:14.33 | Ghel | Arms generally evolve from legs anyway. |
20:15.24 | Monet | Yeah but what I meant was that it was still common for them to be used for standing |
20:16.11 | Ghel | Ah, right. |
20:17.11 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/11006441_1553746388237379_7036676175364630068_n.jpg?oh=15cd8056e938b0840ed259a309754531&oe=564EA008 I laughed |
20:18.47 | Hachiman | olol |
20:33.26 | Hachiman | So I am watching a group of people play a sci-fi/fantasy tabletop game and one of the players rolled up a character who is, in basic, an unarmed, mutant pacifist monk who has a 14 inch tentacle tipped with a stinging barb replacing his right arm, which he keeps in a sock that is always warm as a sheath, and practices in the martial art of Cthu-Fu |
20:34.09 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
20:34.13 | Hachiman | He ended up with the most unfortunate and ridiculous rolls during character creation but he is actually the most potent member of the group of four players |
20:34.36 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
20:36.10 | Hachiman | The tentacle is described as being reminiscent to a literal mass of muscle tissue thus is very powerful when used in combat, alongside the addition of the venomous barb at the end |
20:36.46 | Monet | IIRC tentacles are often pure muscle. |
20:36.53 | Monet | And a bit of fat |
20:37.03 | Hachiman | So potent that it actually penetrated through a humanoid enemy's chest and out of its back |
20:37.47 | Hachiman | And note that this guy is a pacifist hur |
20:38.19 | Monet | Pacifist doesn't always translate ot harmless lol |
20:38.27 | Hachiman | Aye |
20:40.37 | Hachiman | The other characters consist of a cyborg mage who can tame and communicate with wild animals who has what equates to a reptilian hellhound as their animal companion, a dagger-using skillmonkey who has the gift of the gab, and a prophetic mage who is also a woman trapped in a man's body |
20:43.16 | Monet | "Gentlemen...and ladies I guess - Welcome. To Operation Mindfuck!" |
20:44.06 | Hachiman | hur |
20:44.45 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Military#Distribution I shored up some of my military numbers |
20:44.55 | Hachiman | It gets funny when the skillmonkey asks the prophetic mage about whether or not (s)he ever used the genitalia of the male body their inhabit |
20:47.14 | Monet | Now a single Imperial legion outnumbers the population of the United States.- and the Imperium still fields *hundreds* of legions. |
20:47.28 | Hachiman | Jesus |
20:47.50 | Monet | No wait maths fail |
20:48.08 | Monet | Each legion is about 16.2 millino soldiers |
20:48.58 | Monet | 20 of those make a "standing army", which is what outpopulates the USA |
20:51.13 | Monet | However a single legion is still 16x larger than the present United States Army. |
20:54.41 | Monet | We're fucked if the DI ever attacks. |
20:56.52 | Monet | Admirals might be scarier. |
20:57.04 | Monet | Considering the numebrs they have command over. |
20:57.43 | Hachiman | True but numbers are not always the most efficient means of winning a war |
20:57.53 | Hachiman | Unless the numbers are so tremendously large |
20:58.30 | Xho | So a single legion is 16.2 million |
20:58.38 | Xho | The entire army of the Kicath is 329 million |
20:58.43 | Xho | Kicath army tiny man |
21:00.14 | Ghel | As command over 16.2 million ground soldiers corresponds to command over one ship... I take it they don't always fit all of those soldiers into a single vessel? |
21:00.29 | Monet | The Draconis have access to a lot of cannon fodde-- I mean valued recruits. |
21:00.49 | Monet | Ghel: The ground ranks are more generous. |
21:00.54 | Ghel | Cannon fodder is valuable. Cannons have to eat something you know. |
21:02.18 | Monet | I imagine it would be an admiral's or ocmmodore's job to decide which captians get authority over which legions |
21:04.28 | Monet | Its more likely that the legionnaires would eb transported in large transports rather than a captain's vessel. |
21:05.20 | Ghel | That makes the logistics of large ground battles more manageable. |
21:05.46 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11817093_1080449551999121_4015713744404089679_n.jpg?oh=c9c342ccb920156aa71659b22ca67f1e&oe=56150B21 |
21:07.01 | Monet | Past Admiral the ranks become more administrative |
21:09.09 | Monet | Actually I just realised that my ranking system doesn't account for wings/flotillas |
21:09.42 | Monet | Commanders could be i ncharge of ships, captains could be in charge of wings |
21:10.05 | Monet | The DI already gives commodores command over multiple battlefleets |
21:12.36 | Hachiman | So apparently there are various species of frogs that possess teeth |
21:15.45 | Wormy_ | Surely one DI ship could defeat Earth within hours or days |
21:16.59 | Wormy_ | Complete eradication = Easy. Complete assimilation = more difficult, but nanotech. Conquered as DI member = Now we are talking a longer but futile resistance. |
21:17.43 | Hachiman | Yeah, I imagine it would be difficult for the DI to actually "conquer" Earth |
21:18.36 | Hachiman | Although their frontline tech is much better than our own, although if we are fortunate to manage to get a hold of it from looting or scavenging remains we can always reverse-engineer it |
21:19.26 | Wormy_ | But to be honest, I can't think of many reasons aliens would want to attack us, so I concur with those arguments. One could could even argue aliens might squash us by accident, but then hiding isn't going to help us, because maybe wouldn't mean to clear us out the way. |
21:20.45 | Wormy_ | I suppose we might vey lucky in taking out a few vehicles or soldiers |
21:21.10 | Wormy_ | Even DI tech must malfunction |
21:21.34 | Hachiman | I am certain that if extraterrestrials did accidentally devastate the infrastructure of Earth and eradicate our species, they could surely recreate us |
21:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | Aliens actually attacking earth would end like the Anglo-Zulu war. :p. We, the Zulu, may score one or two great victories but the technological disparity will mean they'll mean little in the context of the whole war. |
21:22.17 | DrodoEmpire | But after the conquest long-standing tensions would remain. |
21:22.27 | Wormy_ | This makes me wonder what the DCP does with Pre-Interstellar civilisations. They would likely absorb them, as the DCP are not complete jerks that they'd want Earth's resources when there are much easier ones. |
21:23.19 | DrodoEmpire | (And also when even fighting civilians we'd take heavy losses,again like the Anglo-Zulu war) |
21:23.28 | DrodoEmpire | Rorke's Drift comes to mind |
21:25.17 | Hachiman | It is also more beneficial and ethical - from a human standpoint - to engage in trade of some form than to outright commit to conquest |
21:25.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
21:26.19 | Hachiman | Although granted we may not be able to provide extraterrestrials with something they desire from trade relations |
21:26.21 | Wormy_ | AD in a nutshell http://imgur.com/gallery/lUAis |
21:27.13 | Hachiman | Since what would a vastly superior sufficiently-advanced extraterrestrial interstellar society desire from a divided pre-interstellar conglomerate of societies |
21:27.37 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: olol |
21:27.47 | Wormy_ | DCP - cannon fodder |
21:28.32 | Wormy_ | On a side note it is not impossible there are transplanted humans in the DCP |
21:30.04 | Hachiman | Well there are transplanted humans residing in the DI |
21:31.37 | Wormy_ | I have considered that if/in the DCP-Yamato conflict, the DCP might have been more open back then to other cultures, and there might have been cultural influences on both, possible people. Like the Warlord (or equivalent rank back then) defecting to the Yamato |
21:31.53 | Wormy_ | *possibly] |
21:32.06 | Wormy_ | The DCP saw this as a threat and became even more closed off |
21:32.34 | Hachiman | Yeah that makes sense |
21:33.20 | Wormy_ | brb |
21:52.57 | Hachiman | Mentioning Yamato has me thinking again |
21:53.25 | Hachiman | Perhaps Yamato's incarnation of the Samurai functions as their sort of equivalent to Space Marines / Astartes |
21:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be cool |
21:54.32 | Hachiman | Transhuman cybernetically- and genetically-enhanced super-warriors whose "clans" are assigned to significant corporate, political, and royal entities |
21:55.30 | Hachiman | Although unlike Astartes and like Samurai, they would sorta have families of their own |
21:55.36 | Hachiman | I mean, they are still people |
21:59.55 | Wormy_ | They sound badarse. I dislike the "humans are puny" trope. |
22:00.15 | Hachiman | Well Yamato humans could be considered posthumans of a sort |
22:00.16 | Wormy_ | There must be competant human fighters in the universe |
22:00.44 | Hachiman | I remember you talking about neo-Vikings for the Fjord League once |
22:00.59 | Hachiman | Also remember that Hachiman is a posthuman hur |
22:01.14 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Yeah, seeing as warfare as moved away from brute strength quite a lot, and I don't see the trend reversing. :p |
22:01.47 | DrodoEmpire | A human armed with an assault rifle could pretty easily kill a big eight-foot tall alien armed with nothing but a club. |
22:01.59 | DrodoEmpire | Despite being feeble in terms of physical prowess by comparison |
22:02.42 | Wormy_ | Humans might still be as strong as many other species though. That's why I like Monet's story where a DI or AGC human overpowers an alien |
22:04.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeahh... |
22:04.18 | DrodoEmpire | I really don't like how every alien *must* be stronger or smarter than humans |
22:04.45 | Xho | Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbrJGXN6-Y You want trippy here you go |
22:04.56 | Wormy_ | Yes, the Fjord League discovered a transplated Viking culture that hadn't advanced much. To save them from illegal visitations (and the threat of disease), they made the error of uplifting the culture. Which went badly because the planet ended up with a mix bag of technologies and warlords, and then started to become raiders of local region |
22:05.22 | Hachiman | That is pretty awesome |
22:07.37 | Wormy_ | Xho: Maybe Thomas's chimney can act as a pipe |
22:08.06 | Xho | Huffing that in would be deadly |
22:08.37 | Wormy_ | Thomas And Freinds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujHkvi3DKI4 |
22:09.36 | Xho | Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYkSb7wtj0E You might like this |
22:12.12 | Wormy_ | it's agreeable |
22:12.24 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nN-4bydOKc Meshuggah recorded this for Fredrik's birthday one year |
22:13.14 | Hachiman | Sweet Jesus |
22:14.04 | Xho | Wormy_: You'd like Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects (which that video is one of theirs) |
22:14.54 | Hachiman | I just realised, this is poking fun at Sol Niger Within hur |
22:15.00 | Xho | Pretty much |
22:15.12 | Hachiman | Is that Jens on vocals? |
22:15.17 | Xho | Yeah I think so |
22:15.21 | Xho | Either that or Tomas |
22:15.37 | Xho | Wormy_: In extension you'd probably like Allan Holdsworth's stuff |
22:15.54 | Wormy_ | I'll have a look |
22:18.05 | Wormy_ | it's like Gong meets extreme metal |
22:18.41 | Xho | Sol Niger Within isn't something you should listen to if you're tripping out |
22:18.42 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UArtHsvL50 |
22:18.47 | Xho | I'd imagine it would be like getting pulled into hell |
22:19.33 | Wormy_ | I imagine |
22:20.20 | Xho | I mean that's what it sounds like normally |
22:21.13 | Wormy_ | I wouldn't want to listen to any of this music if I was tripping lol |
22:21.47 | Wormy_ | Not sure I'd want to end up in a giant Elf's teacup |
22:21.57 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11755905_1609392402642572_263061256897113812_n.jpg?oh=47868d27d35ce8bff67f4faf88e44271&oe=56540EDF Okay now this is just |
22:22.22 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11036661_1456701494653899_2462336820568132931_n.jpg?oh=5279cde27f69b3d3b2b7ca3705b58ce8&oe=565BDAA5 And the top comment |
22:22.31 | Wormy_ | My dog is like that. Jackal and Hyde |
22:29.19 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ahAE51E |
22:30.59 | Wormy_ | Xho: Weirdest part of this album https://youtu.be/3UArtHsvL50?t=14m54s |
22:35.37 | Xho | Sounds like me when I'm forced to to manual labour at work |
22:38.23 | Wormy_ | lul |
22:39.30 | Xho | "NNNNNGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH" |
22:40.15 | Hachiman | Sounds like 2010-era SporeWiki |
22:40.35 | Xho | Sounds about right |
22:41.52 | Xho | Well according to people at work I am an evil bastard |
22:42.00 | MonetAway | Wormy_: In terms of raw firepower, a single DI ship might be able to devastate Earth. |
22:42.20 | MonetAway | But the Earth might be too big for a marine garrison alone ot conquer it |
22:43.25 | Wormy_ | Ohgod that era |
22:44.01 | Wormy_ | I suppose, they could devastate our armies, but without technological enslavement, we'd be hard to control |
22:44.31 | Monet | Well they do have a knack for meme theory. |
22:46.16 | Monet | You suggested nanotech too, plausable. |
22:46.47 | Monet | What about deals between human and Draconid executives? |
22:47.30 | Monet | Aaand something just hit me |
22:47.35 | Xho | Well according to Facebook, the typical amount of affection my dad's side of the family gives to one another is through the word 'mong' |
22:47.46 | Xho | This is what you get when you're raised in Southampton |
22:48.06 | Xho | Especially the rough area |
22:48.12 | Hachiman | hur |
22:48.30 | Monet | Wormy_: "Introducing the iPhone 10, powered by alien quasicrystals for all the speed you need." |
22:50.22 | Monet | Is that what you mean by technological enslavement? |
22:50.28 | Wormy_ | Lol, that would sweeten the deal |
22:50.39 | Xho | I just realised, Kaicaiusarin is the only female Simulacrum |
22:50.48 | Wormy_ | I meant metods like memes, nanotech or something along those lines, yeah |
22:50.50 | Hachiman | No she ain't |
22:50.55 | Hachiman | Imp's Kali'searan |
22:51.00 | Xho | wait wat |
22:51.13 | Xho | but dats a cat |
22:51.29 | Hachiman | Still a Simulacra woman |
22:51.39 | Wormy_ | If the Ddraconid executives could solve the world' ills, that would also open things up in public consciousness |
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22:51.50 | Hachiman | She is referred to with female pronouns hur |
22:52.10 | Xho | Kaicaiusarin - ur a psycho biiiitch |
22:52.23 | Xho | So says the psycho bitch |
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22:53.42 | Monet | Wormy_: That usually works, yeah. |
22:54.00 | Hachiman | So based on her new model, I can safely say that Kaicaiusarin has the capacity to provide six simultaneous handjobs |
22:54.10 | Monet | Oh you |
22:54.32 | Hachiman | Part of me is wondering whether that is impressive or if that is outright horrifying |
22:54.48 | Monet | Both :> |
22:55.16 | Monet | Wormy_: Given the DI's more capitalist tones as of late, an occupied Earth would be seen by the broader Imperium as a new market to explore. |
22:55.34 | Xho | Considering her physical form is over six thousand feet tall |
22:55.36 | Xho | Horrifying |
22:55.42 | Monet | Wat. |
22:56.04 | Xho | Oh yeah she's big |
22:56.09 | Monet | Dat no longer sexy. |
22:56.13 | Hachiman | Yeah but considering she is a Simulacra, I imagine she can change her size |
22:56.15 | Xho | I mean in reality she can assume any size she wants |
22:56.16 | Xho | c |
22:56.24 | Hachiman | fukn ninja |
22:56.32 | Xho | ur a CUNT |
22:56.36 | Xho | kicks Hachiman |
22:56.50 | Hachiman | ;~; |
22:57.15 | Xho | But when she was imprisoned she was of that size |
22:59.11 | Monet | Wormy_: So yeah, an occupation by the Draconis has an upside in that they'd sell us ship-loads of new toys to buy. As wel las stuff that could improve quality of life massively. |
22:59.50 | Monet | Might also bee a boom for the construction industry in more ways than one lol |
23:04.18 | Monet | Though if Earth surrenders, would it be the UN secretary-general who gets a spot o nthep rovincial council or someone else? |
23:05.35 | Monet | Not gonna lie though, Ban Ki-Moon being the human rep in an intergalactic coalition/empire would be awesome. |
23:07.00 | Hachiman | Aye hur |
23:07.12 | Xho | Hachiman: So what exactly is Id meant to look like |
23:07.36 | Hachiman | Giant tentacle / coral forest thing |
23:07.42 | Xho | For some reason I imagine it being almost completely blank save for brief moments of absolute horror |
23:07.45 | Xho | rite |
23:07.47 | Hachiman | With non-euclidian geometry |
23:08.03 | Xho | Caligaduro - man isiris dun fuked u up gud |
23:08.21 | Hachiman | Crux - MOOF |
23:08.43 | Xho | Caligaduro - rite |
23:09.01 | Xho | I do wonder what would happen if Caligaduro and Crux communed with each other |
23:09.32 | Hachiman | It would be like talking to a very angry wild dog |
23:09.43 | Monet | Mountains would explode. |
23:09.50 | Xho | Crux - RRRRRRR Caligaduro - SHUT THE FUCK UP |
23:10.16 | Hachiman | inb4 Crux attempts to mount Caligaduro's leg |
23:11.02 | Xho | Caligaduro - id more liek a fukin cage to put ur punk ass in |
23:11.05 | Monet | Caligaduro could have a bottle of squirting water to fend him off. |
23:11.28 | Wormy_ | Damnit in F3, those Yei Gui turned me into a crying wuss |
23:11.41 | Xho | Yao Guai right |
23:11.50 | Xho | Yes the Yao Guai are fucking scary |
23:12.12 | Wormy_ | their pack surrounded me out of nowhere |
23:12.19 | Monet | I can't hear the name and not think of Yogi Bear |
23:13.04 | Xho | Typical Fallout 3 scene: Walking through the Wasteland -> Random V.A.T.S for security -> Yao Guai 5 millimetres behind you |
23:13.15 | Monet | Yao Guai - Deadlier than the average bear! |
23:13.24 | Wormy_ | Mon: I agree on Ban Ki-Moon having that job] |
23:16.14 | Wormy_ | And Brian Cox being in the team to meet the DI reps at first formal contact |
23:17.16 | Xho | Hachiman: I updated Caligaduro's quote on the Crux' page |
23:17.30 | Hachiman | Stephen Hawking, Bill Nye, and Neil deGrasse Tyson |
23:17.54 | Xho | I think Caligaduro might resent Crux going insane because of Isiris |
23:18.05 | Hachiman | Xho: tanks |
23:18.08 | Xho | Could've had another servant out of him |
23:18.27 | Hachiman | Crux was pretty reclusive prior to his insanity |
23:18.29 | Monet | This and looking at Mr. Ban's wikipedia page is giving me the thought of drawing Brian Cox, Ban Ki-Moon and Uriel in a picture together. |
23:19.00 | Xho | Caligaduro - IT'S GOOFY TIME Crux - NO DAD NO |
23:20.47 | Xho | "Cthulhu vs Godzilla" |
23:20.48 | Xho | Okay |
23:20.51 | Xho | That's just dumb |
23:21.16 | Xho | Great Old One vs Kaiju |
23:21.50 | Hachiman | Eh I dunno, Great Old Ones are practically the weakest deities in the Lovecraftian pantheon |
23:21.59 | Wormy_ | I don't know the answer to that question lol |
23:22.54 | Monet | Hachiman: They're still so powerful that they never really appeared in the flesh safe for Cthulhu. |
23:22.58 | Xho | What about the Outer Gods then |
23:23.56 | Hachiman | Outer Gods are the strongest as far as I know |
23:24.11 | Hachiman | Considering Azathoth is one of them |
23:24.20 | Monet | Even King Gidorah would think twice about that sort of fight. |
23:24.49 | Hachiman | I reckon Cthulhu could be challenged by the likes of Kaiju although Cthulhu will inevitably win |
23:25.09 | Xho | Isn't Azathoth like at the very top of the pantheon |
23:25.36 | Xho | Evidently I don't know much about Lovecraft although it's exactly the kind of thing I do |
23:25.36 | Hachiman | Considering Cthulhu can resize himself theoretically infinitely and can regenerate from even the most severe and otherwise fatal forms of damage rather swiftly |
23:25.51 | Hachiman | Xho: Considering Azathoth is at the centre of the universe, yeah |
23:26.21 | Monet | Yeah, Godzilla vs Cthulhu doesn't sound that promising. |
23:27.02 | Monet | Even if big C is only a Great Old One, he's still a walking mindfuck. |
23:27.12 | Hachiman | Yeah |
23:28.24 | Hachiman | There are implications that there are elements and aspects to particular races and Great Old Ones that exist only in higher dimensions |
23:28.56 | Monet | WHen it comes down to it, it sounds more like a battle of popularity. |
23:29.51 | Hachiman | Godzilla could probably take on a Star-Spawn of Cthulhu however |
23:30.36 | Xho | I wonder whether Crux is the only entity that can look upon Caligaduro and not go completely off the rails |
23:30.37 | Monet | I can already picture Gojira fans trying to pull all sorts - like his "king of monsters" or "protector of the Earth" titles - to give evidence as to why big-G would win |
23:31.00 | Xho | Either that or he looks at Caligaduro and goes sane |
23:31.15 | Hachiman | hur |
23:31.49 | Xho | Crux - FRENCH TOAST Caligaduro - look at me Crux - i am the very model of a modern major general |
23:32.11 | Hachiman | Monet: Well there are multiple Godzillas in the Japanese canon and Godzilla has died permanently before |
23:32.17 | Monet | Crux - AAARGARAGGHGHH *Looks at Caligaduro* My heavens was I in a bad mood! |
23:32.49 | Xho | In most intentions, Caligaduro would rather keep Crux sane to make the destruction of Koldenwelt easier |
23:32.50 | Wormy_ | How would the Chaos gods from WH40K fair against the Outer Gods? |
23:32.50 | Monet | Hachiman: One of them is Godzilla Jr. isn't it? |
23:33.05 | Xho | insane* |
23:33.06 | Hachiman | Monet: Yeah |
23:33.07 | Xho | bah |
23:33.18 | Xho | I need to go to sleep now |
23:33.22 | Monet | Wormy_: Actually that's a good question |
23:33.45 | Monet | I read somewhere that the Chaos Gods are jsut too powerful to manifest in the physical realm. |
23:33.48 | Wormy_ | clash of grimdarkness with cosmic indifferentism |
23:34.01 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Probably not so well considering the Chaos Gods depend on the flow of emotions of sapient life, such as humanity and the Eldar, to grant themselves power while the Outer Gods do not even register sapient life |
23:34.15 | Wormy_ | hm, good point |
23:34.40 | Hachiman | The Chaos Gods are amplified, personified aspects of the sapient condition |
23:34.40 | Monet | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c4/Khorne_by_alexboca.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140603022205 that's Khorne, already looking a little eldritch |
23:36.42 | Monet | Amplified, sapient personificaations of the sapient condition, but still immensely powerful |
23:37.32 | Monet | At the very least they'd give the Great Old Ones a challenge |
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23:41.40 | Wormy_ | Found this from TVtropes, Cultureverse meerts 40K http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?256776-The-Culture-v-s-40kverse |
23:41.48 | Monet | They were largely inspired by Lovecraft's work. |
23:42.57 | Wormy_ | http://archiveofourown.org/works/649448/chapters/1181375 |
23:45.09 | Wormy_ | bbl |
23:45.15 | Monet | "So, out of pure curiosity, whatever hapened to the usual arguments of "40K weapons and armor are automatically a zillion times better than everybody else's just because, termodynamics, logic and actual results portrayed in the fluff/crunch be damned". "Because whatever fluff technobabble 40k has, the Culture has the same and so much more, and more efficient too. " |
23:45.36 | Monet | This one made me giggle |
23:46.19 | Hachiman | hur |
23:46.46 | Wormy_ | The Culture would be a complete stomp |
23:47.02 | Wormy_ | And yet they do probably do it without slaying anyone |
23:48.37 | Monet | GD and I once entertained the idea of the DI attacking a Hive World and the Astartes arriving to end the invasion |
23:51.29 | Monet | SM's vs. Talon Marine Corps. |
23:53.43 | Wormy_ | I read this as the police trying to arrest a hologram http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33679847 |
23:57.21 | Wormy_ | MERS cases possibly in the UK http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-33675356 |
23:57.30 | Monet | I get the feeling that Keef's fans were mreo than "a little dissapointed" |