IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150725

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00:52.45XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcSENNsIfIs dj0nt
00:53.11XhoReminds me of Sol Niger Within this
00:55.03Wormy_I quite like it
00:55.38Wormy_Also check out SpaceAmbient for various ambient themes
01:00.42Wormy_Xho:  So I was playing Fallout 3, an I revisited Big Town after saving some residents from super mutants.  But I was too late
01:00.56Wormy_It had been over-run
01:01.10Wormy_Damn that was pretty desolate
01:01.16Xhooho
01:01.40Wormy_I just, didn't return for them in time
01:06.57Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbrJGXN6-Y Prepare for your sides to shatter
01:07.16HachimanMy fucking God
01:10.16XhoI'm calling it, Psychosocial by Slipknot is actually not a bad song
01:10.55Wormy_Don't get me started
01:11.04XhoI'M GETTING YOU STARTED
01:11.23XhoSlipknot's not a band I listen to but a few of their songs are good
01:11.47Wormy_you asked for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgEewGRLnY
01:12.04XhoYou've drunk too much
01:12.07XhoGo to bed
01:12.55Wormy_Too late, shoulde have said that ealier!
01:13.02Wormy_I'm sobered up now.
01:13.08XhoAre you really
01:13.22Wormy_Dunno
01:14.02Wormy_But I watch that sort of crap anyway
01:14.13XhoThis is true
01:14.40Xho"That awkward moment when you're watching Slipknot, and your mom knocks on your door, but she comes in anyways, and you rush to press Control+T, and you spill your doritos and mountain dew everywhere, and as you're bending over to clean it up, she accidentally switches to the youtube tab anyways, and she thinks you worship Satan and sends you to a psychiatric institute"
01:14.49XhoQuite obviously never heard of Burzum
01:16.21Wormy_considering my family, that'd never happen
01:17.13Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ
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05:55.06Tek0516~test
05:55.06infoboti guess test is not funny
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06:26.39GhelaeOoh. Apparently I've had two failed logins about three hours ago.
06:28.10GhelaeApparently someone tried to log in as "ghel" using kiwiirc.
06:28.22Ghelae~seen ghel
06:28.24infobotghel <05970007@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.151.0.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 10h 2m 29s ago, saying: 'Technobliterator: I guess I should specifically bring it to your attention that I've started the page.'.
06:29.10GhelaeNot here presumably. Could just be someone wanted the name for themselves somewhere and wasn't aware it was already registered.
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08:30.20DarcySupremestfarkin EA, the servers are still god damn down
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09:47.42DarcySupremestNow that there is more folks on
09:48.13DarcySupremestcan anybody clarify to me if the Spore Servers are down still
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09:48.50JepardiHi
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09:57.57Wormy_hi
09:58.05DarcySupremesthulla hulla get dulla
09:58.31DarcySupremestWormy, are you able to confirm to me if the Spore servers are up?
09:58.36DarcySupremestOr if its something on my end
09:58.54Wormy_Nope, still redirects to Sporum
09:59.09Wormy_It is down for maintenance.
10:00.08Wormy_http://www.sporistics.com/ However
10:00.32Wormy_Actually no that won't work
10:10.38GhelHello.
10:15.34Wormy_Hi
10:21.29DarcySupremestGat Damn it
10:21.39DarcySupremestmore waiting before I know how much of the Arcanium I lost.
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10:37.50dino82_hi all!
10:38.45GhelHello.
10:39.29Wormy_hi
10:42.48dino82_new chapteR: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lost_in_Space#Chapter_05
10:42.50dino82_how is all doing?
10:43.06dino82_Did I miss anytnig last days? Couldn't get on internet, my phone broke down and had to get a new one haha
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10:48.20AdmiralPandahi all
10:53.40DarcySupremestI wonder what EA is doing that means they need to maintain like 8 year old servers for a game they don't even support anymore
10:54.35dino82_yeah, servers still down
10:54.49dino82_does any one has the same problem with the wikia being slow?
10:57.33Wormy_yes
10:59.55AdmiralPandawhich game are we talking about?
11:02.24DarcySupremestI dunno I'm just worried I'll get back on after waiting this long and like all my progress will be gone because it didn't save to the network
11:02.27DarcySupremestalso Spore Panda
11:03.32AdmiralPandawho knows, expecting logic from EA is like expecting celibacy from bonobos
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11:03.58AdmiralPanda(silently hopes everyone knows what bonobos are so they get the joke)
11:07.23DarcySupremestI wonder what happens if or when EA cuts the server support
11:07.43AdmiralPandaiunno, depends how integral the server is to the game
11:08.06AdmiralPandaI mean you can play offline so you'd still be able to play spore
11:08.47dromTechno: Have some bullhell-seque boss-fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAWNgtsjqBo
11:12.23AdmiralPandaalso, I'm now watching Korean professional-level League of Legends, the gameplay is great but the casters' game knowledge is severely lacking
11:14.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/IsOJi   http://imgur.com/gallery/fLaWd  http://imgur.com/gallery/PJtmueY  a little nsfw I guess http://imgur.com/gallery/v8mD9  http://imgur.com/gallery/afBnYeg  http://imgur.com/gallery/YSJvI  http://imgur.com/gallery/YNUMbrA  http://imgur.com/gallery/ZXQCpC3
11:17.33Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/KgsYK
11:18.23Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/E87mxic
11:19.53dromLocal weather forecast predict >2 long rain
11:22.23Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/DMFvL
11:27.20Liquid_InkWormy_ I'm shocked. One of those images was encouraging wheat and wheat by products!
11:31.04AdmiralPandaLiquid_Ink: Want a readily available organic, gluten-free ingredient for your next meal?
11:31.52Liquid_Ink..?
11:32.06AdmiralPandamethyl cyanide is a start *trollface*
11:39.30Wormy_Liquid_Ink:  Naughty naughty
11:40.02Liquid_InkThe Sheriff's Secret Police are going to get you
11:42.33Wormy_Not if World Government helicopters swoop me up first
11:43.26Liquid_InkAnd you think that's a better alternative?
11:50.25Wormy_If I can be free from the gaze of the Hooded Figures, yes.
11:52.28Liquid_InkBut you're not.
12:37.10AdmiralPandaso what's everyone up to?
12:44.28Wormy_Oh my http://imgur.com/gallery/GOFe8I8
12:44.28dino82_not much
12:44.37dino82_creating new species for the Endless space and the Lsot in Space story
12:44.38dino82_you?
12:45.48Wormy_On Imgur http://imgur.com/gallery/HkGRXGk
12:46.36Wormy_Drivers on big roads shouldn't do this I hear http://imgur.com/gallery/WnwAyMu
12:48.39AdmiralPandacurrently just working on RPG stuff
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12:51.00AdmiralPandahi
12:51.08OluapPlayerHi
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13:00.45GhelaeHello.
13:01.42AdmiralPandahi
13:02.56AdmiralPandaI have the option of selecting a silenced, scoped rifle, or a high quality and high power rifle with the ability to get silencers and scopes later, but those silencers and scopes requiring special maintenance- thoughts?
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13:06.21HachimanHai
13:06.52GhelaeHow often and how difficult/expensive would that special maintainance be? At one extreme, if you have to do it after a certain period of time regardless of how much you use them, then that's most useful if you use them a lot but if you hardly use them at all then you've basically got a more powerful rifle with additional maintainence costs for bits you don't often use.
13:06.53GhelaeHello.
13:07.03OluapPlayer~cuddle Hachiman
13:07.03infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
13:07.57AdmiralPandaGhelae: the maintenance isn't necessarily hard to come by, as for expense I could afford the maintenance every couple of weeks
13:08.14AdmiralPandaas to when it's necessary, this might sound weird but when it's dramatically appropriate
13:08.31AdmiralPandaHachiman: in case you haven't guessed, I posed a question relevant to Apocalypse World weapon choices
13:08.44HachimanOh boy
13:09.00GhelaeThat doesn't sound too bad, depending on the scale of the drama I suppose.
13:09.53GhelaeAnd how often dramatically appropriate situations occur.
13:11.44GhelaeIf you don't rely too much on the silencers and scopes, then the high-power rifle could easily be worth it. It sounds like maintenance then would be just a fairly minor (if dramatic) inconvenience.
13:20.41HachimanSo I have not watched Mad Max yet but I have just watched Immortan Joe's death scene
13:20.46HachimanFucking hell, he gets his face ripped off
13:20.54AdmiralPandayep
13:21.44Wormy_Ghelae:  I am happy to talk about omniverseshit :P
13:22.37AdmiralPandaGhelae: Yeah, that's basically what I was thinking. Thanks for being an ideas board :P
13:22.52GhelaeNo problem. :D
13:23.18GhelaeWormy_: I'm currently working on my Time overhaul. I've started writing the fictional parts, and I think I've figured out how to include both Novikov self-consistency and parallel universes together so I'm just going with that for now.
13:23.45Wormy_What I was trying to say last night, was that I derived the Omniverse idea from Rob Bryanton's "Imagining the 10th dimension", which is creative but not scientific in anyway, though he bases it on various things.
13:24.25Wormy_If you remember what I did with the BCC, I expunged the fifth and sixth dimensions completely.
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13:26.46GhelaeI do remember you showing me some of those videos before.
13:27.21GhelaeI'll have a look at the BCC page to remind myself of what their current canon is, but I'll bring a disussion to IRC before I start considering whether or not to add in higher dimensions.
13:28.18Wormy_I did read an article recently about consistency, closed timelike curves and many universes
13:29.16Wormy_Don't know if you will find it relevant, it might be this http://phys.org/news/2013-12-warp-possibility-cloning-quantum.html
13:30.28GhelaeI'll read it anyway.
13:30.30Wormy_and others http://phys.org/search/?search=Closed+Timelike+Curve
13:31.49Wormy_In a way I managed to have the BCC transcend even dimension
13:34.33Wormy_I suppose we need a way to allow time travellers to the past, to return to their own history and not a differentiated one.
13:35.20HachimanI do not see how that is really possible
13:35.23Wormy_The death of Lanrus makes me wonder why the DI simply doesn't commandernap him from the past.
13:35.49Wormy_I'm hoping that's what Ghelae means to do with Novikov self-consistency
13:36.09HachimanWormy_: Because the DI have morals and probably do not have time-travel tech hur
13:36.17Wormy_But yes it is not possible in standard Many Worlds
13:36.35Wormy_Hachi:  Even a tier 4 civilisation could travel back in time
13:36.39OluapPlayerThat's how me and Jo always did time travel
13:36.55Wormy_This is unless we make time travel harder
13:36.56GhelaeWith what I'm writing, the idea is that normally time travel will result in returning to your own history, but it can be arranged that you end up in a parallel universe if you work hard to change the course events.
13:36.57OluapPlayerThe explanation was that changing the past created a new timeline
13:37.47OluapPlayerAt least in Taldar canon, changing your own history is considered something extremely difficult to do
13:37.58OluapPlayerIt was a major plot point of the Borealis War
13:37.58HachimanYeah, that is how I consider it
13:38.18Wormy_Ghel:  Like waves of differentiation having different variables for different levels of emergence?
13:38.22GhelaeUltimately, the universal wavefunction is Novikov self-consistent; there's no hard limitation on changing history (you just connect your own worldline to a different timeline) but it is quantum-mechanically improbable.
13:38.59Wormy_Of course one thing that could solve the Larnus issue is the fact that there is no way to bring back the time travellers or Larnus to the timeline
13:40.34Wormy_Perhaps it has become probably given the advance in technology, that mysterious time travellers appear all the time?  It might be a better explanation that travellers from different "dimensions" or universes in the other sense.
13:40.41Wormy_*probable
13:40.57HachimanThis is why we should deal less with time travel hur
13:40.58OluapPlayerBringing dead characters back remove the impact of their deaths
13:41.02OluapPlayerThat's how I treat it anyway
13:42.24Wormy_I'm bringing back my Warlords though, because I never developed them properly during the beginning.  Mauloron had a bad start and a failtastic end
13:43.10Wormy_My character development has been pretty awful up until recent
13:43.38GhelaeIf you bring back somebody from the past before they died, you've changed history. Rather than them dying, they simply disappear mysteriously, and that in itself is going to change the motivation for you later going back and getting them.
13:43.59GhelaeBringing somebody back from the past, while also staying in your own original timeline, would be a challenge.
13:44.30OluapPlayerI was now aware of any dead warlords
13:44.34OluapPlayernot
13:46.42Wormy_Mauloron was killed easily by the Emperor, Kilnok was seriously maimed but killed Eclipsos, Bo Ramik and Tricarrion cancelled each other out.  But Eclipsos translated his mental state into an invasive nanotech device that saved him in Kilnok, Bo Ramik and Tricarrion returned in Mass Armegeddon and Mauloron, I'm keeping that secret.
13:47.50Wormy_Aside from Mauloron you could say the other 3 didn't truly die.
13:54.42HachimanYou know, I have come to the conclusion that despite it being annoying that the names for ranks and titles are only so many and are often used repeatedly across different societies and factions in SporeWiki, the justification for this is that those ranks and titles are translated from a species' native language to equate to a similar meaning in English
13:55.05AdmiralPandaprettymuch yeah
13:55.07HachimanWhich is why we can have alien societies using ranks and terms typical of historic Earth cultures
14:07.03DarcySupremestGod damn it
14:07.15DarcySupremestwhy did SCP 001 have to be biblical
14:07.39DarcySupremestI'm not like an angry atheist type or whatever but the Biblical SCPs are so boring and are always too easy and low key
14:08.26HachimanI thought SCP 001 was a friendly dog-like thing
14:08.39HachimanLike, I thought it was effectively Flubber
14:09.22OluapPlayerThat's 999
14:09.36OluapPlayerYou missed by a few there
14:10.05DarcySupremestIts just annoying is all
14:10.25OluapPlayerThere is no definite SCP 001, instead there are multiple proposals. One of them being an archangel who guards the hates to Heaven with a fuckhuge sword which strikes anything that attempts to get a kilometers close to him
14:10.33OluapPlayergates even
14:10.41HachimanThat's kinda dum
14:10.47DarcySupremestAll of them are way too easy and are just boring in the face of the leagues more creative users who went to the effort to be creative
14:10.47HachimanDoes not even fit SCP
14:10.52DarcySupremestExactly
14:11.18DarcySupremestIts dumb and boring and like the stupidest mary sue thing ever
14:11.20DarcySupremestIts like
14:11.37DarcySupremestman oh man, our world is under attack by all these cosmic horrors and space deamons and cthulus
14:11.44DarcySupremestbut the abraham god
14:11.53DarcySupremesthes the real god though :)))))
14:11.59Hachimanhur
14:12.07OluapPlayerSCP has no canon, they can do whatever they please
14:12.12DarcySupremestI get that
14:12.12OluapPlayerGod himself is SCP 343 iirc
14:12.36DarcySupremestbut the biblical ones are a middle finger to all the users who make unique and interesting anomalies
14:12.48DarcySupremestespecially ones that focus on cosmic horror lovecraft stuff
14:13.08OluapPlayerI can't see why they can't co-exist
14:14.06DarcySupremestBecause it doesn't make sense for the Abraham god to be the supreme being in context for SCP
14:14.22DarcySupremestEspecially when you consider theres interdimensional stuff like The Old Man
14:14.36OluapPlayerWho says he has to be?
14:15.52DarcySupremestEspecially when you consider that man is meant to be gods super favorite race
14:16.08DarcySupremestDid god make 682?
14:16.12DarcySupremestJust to fuck with us?
14:16.22OluapPlayerSCP has lots of indestructible and unstoppable things. Being an angel or a tentacle monster shouldn't really make much difference
14:16.57DarcySupremestMy main problem is that having something that is blatently god is too easy
14:17.13OluapPlayerAnd actually I remember mentions of a story where SCP!God was not able to destroy 682 because he was "no one of his"
14:17.20OluapPlayernot rather
14:18.02DarcySupremestYes but if you accept the fact that 001 is meant to be Yahweh of the Abraham faith
14:18.17DarcySupremestSorry
14:18.22DarcySupremestthe CREATION of Yahweh
14:18.35OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure he's meant to be just an archangel, not the actual god
14:18.42DarcySupremestThats what I said
14:19.18DarcySupremestIf you accept that in context to this specific anomaly which is very heavily suggested to be the gate to Eden
14:19.52DarcySupremestThat means you accept that Yahweh is the ultimate god, man is his chosen race and everything else is a subthought
14:20.01DarcySupremestand all other godlike entities in SCP are subservient to him
14:20.09HachimanThere are things more SCP-worthy in the Bible than the simple existence of God and the Angels I must say
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14:20.24DarcySupremestincluding interdimensional aliens
14:20.32OluapPlayerI don't see why an angel's existence immediately forces God to be supreme
14:20.36DrodoEmpireHi everyone
14:20.47DarcySupremestI'm not saying that
14:20.50DrodoEmpireOh dear what have I walked into
14:21.00OluapPlayerSCP Foundation discussion
14:21.02OluapPlayerNothing major
14:21.08DrodoEmpireAlright.
14:21.17DarcySupremestThe article states you prioritize Abraham faith in the event of an end of the world scenario
14:21.35OluapPlayerIn the end of the day 173 would fuck 001's shit up anyway because he's 173 hur
14:21.48DarcySupremestThats the point i'm making
14:21.52DarcySupremestits lame and marysueish
14:22.03DarcySupremest"Why can't 682 kill the Archangel"
14:22.08DarcySupremest"Because he is god lol"
14:22.24DarcySupremestgods creation*
14:22.37OluapPlayerThat's kinda calling 682 a mary sue because his mofit is being indestructable
14:23.24DarcySupremestThat applys to anything Keter though
14:23.29DarcySupremest682 is just an example
14:23.45HachimanI don't see 682 as being a Mary Sue considering that while he is supposedly indestructible and can regenerate from any damage he sustains, he still feels the pain of it all and can be incapacitated
14:23.54DarcySupremestAs I said, did Yahweh create The Old Man, did God specifically create a dude who could create pocket realms
14:24.11DarcySupremestcan the Old man Kill the Archangel?
14:24.30HachimanSCP needs to stop bullyin 682
14:24.39OluapPlayerBut 682 wants to murder the universe
14:24.47OluapPlayerWith his bare claws too
14:26.01Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Time#Time_Travel_and_Paradoxes - Done. It might help to read the "Space and Time" section if you get confused, depending on what you get confused by.
14:26.23GhelaeIt's a little longer than I hoped, so if anyone can think of a way to shorten it without loss of clarity (or even better, with gain of clarity) let me know. The paragraph starting with "They can also be more subtle" might be unnecessary.
14:26.39GhelaeWormy_: I should probably bring it to your attention particularly.
14:29.03DarcySupremestGhelae: What is this I have to ask? The Canon stance on Time mechanics on here?
14:29.49GhelaeIt's something that will hopefully be developed into a canon stance, after more work and discussion.
14:30.29GhelaeThe "Space and Time" section is how spacetime works in the real world, with fiction to fill up gaps in our knowledge in the later sections.
14:35.21GhelaeMy idea is to start with first principles wherever it's reasonable to do so, with the idea being that if I do it right the even people who are like "eww science" will be able to understand most of it. It also makes it clearer where there are gaps to be filled in with fiction, and what fictional ideas might be good for filling in those gaps.
14:35.46DarcySupremestAs far as I'm concerned, Time Travel should be discouraged simply because its so difficult to write correctly
14:36.17DarcySupremestNot really frowned on though, considering we have multiidimensional beings that exist beyond a linear space time
14:36.41HachimanBut time travel is featured in every story
14:36.52HachimanWe're always travelling through time
14:37.05Ghelae*Backwards* time travel doesn't happen very often and it is difficult in canon, so an explanation as to why it should be difficult will be added before the Time Travel and Paradoxes section.
14:37.35GhelaeBut it is also part of the fictionverse and so does need to be considered.
14:38.06DarcySupremestI'm not opposing it, I encourage it
14:38.22DarcySupremestmy favorite novel The Forever War is about how fucky time travel is
14:38.53OluapPlayer~kick Hachiman
14:38.53infobotACTION kicks Hachiman
14:38.55OluapPlayerfuk off
14:40.55Wormy_Ghelae:  Thank you, I need to go very soon so I'll read it later
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14:58.51dino82_@Ghel: Nice page!
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15:04.06GhelaeThanks! If you have any comments about content or improvements I should add, feel free to tell me.
15:04.08GhelaeHello.
15:08.45OluapPlayerspu
15:11.54Xhou
15:12.25XhoKuga didn't like my video because the merc had a scout voice
15:12.31XhoStrange boy
15:12.51OluapPlayerscoot
15:15.28XhoSo I go to click GTA V  ->  Half-Life 2
15:16.04OluapPlayerDON'T FORGET TO RELOAD
15:16.29OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Naombur have keepers
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15:43.58Tek0516~test
15:43.58infobottest is probably not funny
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16:09.23ImpyDroidSo aside from classical Marvel cliches Ant-Man was actually good
16:10.58ImpyDroidOne thing though... what kind of separatists would there be in Kursk, of all places?
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16:29.53Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Time#Hyperspatial_Physics - I've figured out not only a way for it to make sense for the Taldar and Chronoscopic to be 5D (more details forthcoming on the page, but you can imagine how easy it would be to manipulate the universe and its history if it were just a 2D sheet), but how this 5D space links to hyperspace too.
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16:46.08Wormy_I shall now read the Time article
16:47.48Wormy_Pi soundtrack is appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqKyix86elc&index=12&list=PLD141E36B4DAC5F13
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16:55.26TechnobliteratorMartian empire? :    |
16:55.35Technobliteratoralso nice work Ghel
16:56.37Wormy_Yeah very detailed but clear.
16:57.07GhelaeThanks. And literally, if there's anything that isn't as clear as you think it could be, let me know.
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16:58.31HachimanWhat's this bout a Martian empire?
16:58.32Wormy_Of course there's things I can think of which could be added.  Like the structure of the multiverse, interference and objects in the multiverse.  For example, a gene is tiny in any one universe, but a massive entity in the multiverse.
16:58.48GhelaeI've tried to make it so intuitive (where I can, and within the limits of not making it a huge wall of text) that, if you read the third paragraph of "Time Travel and Temporal Pardoxes" and don't understand the reasoning behind the path integral formulation of quantum field theory, I've failed. :P
16:59.18TechnobliteratorI'm cool with that replacing the section on the Time article
16:59.41TechnobliteratorHachiman, someone made a page called Fiction:Martian empire
16:59.53GhelaeThe structure of the multiverse is something I might go into more detail. I do need to work on how Essence, Chronoscopic and Hyperspace are related, with the rest of the multiverse being potentially important there.
16:59.56TechnobliteratorI'm just not sure martian is something you can claim like that
17:00.51GhelaeLooking at the "Martian empire" page, it may be worth noting that their location, according to the infobox, is not Mars.
17:01.03Technobliteratorwat
17:01.06TekDroidO.o
17:01.08TekDroid...
17:01.17GhelaeThey're clearly based on the aliens in the two main War of the Worlds movies.
17:01.42Wormy_The weird property Deutsch found that while any one universe is discrete, the multiverse appears to be a continuum, with every now sequential rather than consequential.
17:01.44TechnobliteratorMakes more sense
17:01.48Technobliteratorright I'm off
17:01.49Technobliteratorbbl
17:02.25GhelaeWhen it comes to the multiverse, there are different kinds of multiverse to consider.
17:03.22GhelaeThe Type III many-worlds multiverse is discussed on the page, but it's also made clear that they aren't literally different universes in most senses of the word.
17:03.34Wormy_In BCC I hinted at the possibility type II and III are related.
17:04.00Wormy_Type IV is a different kettle of fish
17:04.56GhelaeSomething like Type II universes could be related to Type III, if the laws of physics are determined by factors in the universal wavefunction.
17:05.17GhelaeThat would be worthy of a note than in some timelines, the laws of physics themselves seem to be different.
17:05.26Ghelaethat in some*
17:05.33Wormy_And type I, I should think, since with Type II you inevitably have Type I
17:06.21GhelaeType I and Type II universes would normally, in this case, be considered seperate regions of the surface that defines the universe that we know of.
17:06.44Wormy_I should have sent "concurrent" rather than sequential, but oh well http://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/wp-content/DiscreteAndContinuous.html
17:06.50GhelaeDifferent branes in the bulk, now that would be a distinct feature of the multiverse that ought to be mentioned.
17:07.41Wormy_Also there's black holes universes, I wonder if a theorey could support both or whether they turn out to be two descriptions of the same thing
17:08.49GhelaeWell... a lot of this is inner structure of our universal surface, and perhaps more suited to the Omniverse page than the Time page.
17:09.51GhelaeBut certainly, if any of it turns out to be relevant to time - like hyperpace and 5D spacetime did - it'll need to be added
17:10.57GhelaeCan you be more detailed in your other points - "interference and objects in the multiverse[; f]or example a gene is tiny any one universe, but a massive entity in the multiverse" - so I know what you really think I need to add?
17:13.46Wormy_I guess it is only if it suitable for the SporeWikiverse:  You could describe the complex structures of the universe as forms of information processing, and maybe describe time's continuous flow as a multiversal property.  I've also read of ways it does away with chaotic systems, but I'll have to read that again.
17:14.07Wormy_It could become useful for Legacy and Realities Altered fiction
17:15.18Wormy_* complex structures of the multiverse
17:15.52GhelaeHmm. Isn't the fact that the arrow of time exists for all many-worlds timelines (if that's what you mean) something people would take as a given from the description?
17:16.32GhelaeThen, information procesing with the complex structures of the multiverse. Yes, if that's appropriate, it might be important for the Chronoscopic section, depending on how the two concepts are connected.
17:16.39HachimanWho does own Mars in the Fictionverse?
17:16.46Wormy_Well, I mean going into more detail if it's necessary, it also links into quantum computers, as interference phenomena
17:17.10Wormy_Me originally, but I think that's noncanon.  I imagine it iis owned by all of us.
17:17.46GhelaeI don't know if there's any Mars canon still in the fiction. Possibly a few references to the early interplanetary history of some spacefaring nations.
17:18.15Wormy_Sol was abandoned mostly anyway
17:18.32Wormy_For some reason I am yet to explain
17:18.50Wormy_Possibly the Xhodocto Eye if Spu still has that
17:19.33Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Shu%C3%A9nsom is of uncertain canonicity, but if it is canon then I don't want to heavily restrict usage of the species there. They aren't all unified anyway so if anybody wants to do their own thing with some Martians, I'm not going to complain unless it's hugely uncharacteristic of them.
17:19.55DrodoEmpireHachi: I believe the whole Sol system was abandoned at some point
17:21.19Wormy_It has been free and open to colonisation since the Neanderthal invasion, but Earth is in an artificial terrorist ice age
17:21.27DarcySupremestI hate to interupt but when was the last GD was on if anybody can remember, I need the names of some of his race
17:21.30Wormy_The Dark Purger
17:21.32DarcySupremests*
17:21.51Wormy_Didn't like it that the Neanderthals didn't build big skyscraper cities
17:21.58GhelaeDarcySupremest: Try this
17:21.59Ghelae~seen GD12
17:22.02infobotgd12 <70c6531e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.112.198.83.30> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 59d 15h 39m 45s ago, saying: 'my internet is horribru'.
17:22.19DrodoEmpireUnder the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 it would be considered the "common heritage of mankind". This treaty, for obvious purposes would no longer be valid in-practice but perhaps it is nominally respected in regards to the Sol system
17:22.32DrodoEmpireBy the human nations that is
17:22.55Wormy_I believe to corporations however, our system is up for grabs.
17:22.59DrodoEmpireOr a similar treaty makes a similar statement.
17:23.20DrodoEmpireBy the way I like the idea of that treaty but I think its detrimental to space exploration
17:23.48DrodoEmpireI agree with not putting WMDs up there but exploitation of space's resources should be actively encouraged and researched
17:23.56DrodoEmpire:p
17:23.56Wormy_Oh yes, it prevented programs like Orion
17:24.11DrodoEmpireSo it should at least be amended.
17:24.22Wormy_"I can't think of a better purpose for nuclear weapons" --Carl Sagan
17:24.29GhelaeDarcySupremest: What information do you need?
17:26.40DrodoEmpireHonestly, the expansion of sovereign nations into space (which I'd *far* prefer have a bigger hand in exploration then corporations) would trigger a new age of colonialism that, this time around, would benefit *all* of humanity.
17:26.48DarcySupremest59 days, gat damn thats about the same time I went on hiatus
17:26.50DrodoEmpireNot just the colonial powers. :p
17:28.18DarcySupremestBut basically it was five or so slave or engineered races of the...
17:28.27DarcySupremestfuck did I seriously forget GD's empire
17:28.53GhelaeDrakodominatus Tyranny?
17:28.59DarcySupremestThats the ticket
17:29.22DarcySupremestI'm going to finally get around to publishing the two RPS I did, the one with GD and the one with Monet slightly after
17:29.30GhelaeJust go to http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreatDestroyer12 (if that's his username; I've forgotten) and look for his pages.
17:29.42DarcySupremestproblem is I need to figure out what races were in the RP I did with him
17:30.24DarcySupremestI can't publish them without the specifc titanpads which may be lost unless Monet miraculously has three month old URLs still in his history or bookmarks
17:30.48DarcySupremestbut I'll still aknowledge them in cannon, seeing as I'm trying to catch the Arcanium up with the rest of the current Fictionverse canon
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17:37.57HachimanHai Imp
17:40.09ImperiosHiya
17:41.43dromWormy_: Seen? http://i.imgur.com/TuHMTBK.jpg
17:42.06ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://islamiclearningmaterials.com/islamic-symbols/ Look at this
17:42.12Imperios>The eight pointed star is prevalent throughout most of the Muslim world. It can be seen on flags, mosques, and Qurans.
17:42.24Imperios>the eight pointed star
17:42.41HachimanEh?
17:43.02ImperiosWell
17:43.16Wormy_nope, but that head to body ratio lol
17:43.18ImperiosWhat other religious group frequently uses the eight pointed star?
17:44.32Wormy_mushrooms can have a lot of force http://imgur.com/gallery/NjlEJcA
17:45.11HachimanJews?
17:45.30ImperiosThese have six points
17:45.32Wormy_that might not be fake I've heard of fungus breaking through concrete and paved roads
17:45.46ImperiosI mean outside of real life
17:47.02Wormy_drom:  Why were their tongues not sticking?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekK7peRxKGc
17:47.03HachimanDon't know
17:48.35Imperios...Chaos
17:48.42HachimanOh
17:48.43HachimanOH
17:48.58OluapPlayerfuk ur religion talk
17:49.19OluapPlayerCan we continue the rp today?
17:49.19HachimanSo what you are saying is
17:49.23HachimanAllah is Khorne
17:49.32DarcySupremestHachi das rayciss
17:49.54DarcySupremestwhy you be sayin Mooslims are agants of chayoss
17:51.02HachimanThey both have radical followers who dedicate themselves to spilling the blood of others, alongside their own, and use eight-sided stars as symbols and icons, all the while screaming praises for their respective lords
17:51.57HachimanOh and they both take heads to honour their gods
17:53.03dromWormy_: dem biggie claws https://www.flickr.com/photos/nemi1968/8674066415/
17:53.27ImperiosHachiman: Not to mention they revere a METAL BAWX
17:53.37Hachimanayy
17:53.45Wormy_Imagine it jumping up for a walk
17:53.53HachimanAnd they hate women who expose themselves
17:54.11DarcySupremestMetal Baaawxes
17:54.40DarcySupremestand, uuuuh I'll think you'll find they only collect SKULLS for the Skull Throne, not the full head
17:54.48dromWormy_: Catdogs ho
17:54.48DarcySupremestAnd I will THANK you to remember that
17:55.09HachimanTaliban, al-Qaeda, and ISIS are actually just Blood Cults of Khorne
17:55.22ImperiosAlternatively, they're Black Templars
17:55.41ImperiosOr Gray Knights
17:55.51HachimanBut Black Templars are Catholic Knights
17:55.59ImperiosHm
17:56.08HachimanLike, the exact opposite of Islamic extremists hur
17:56.08ImperiosActually it all makes sense
17:56.16ImperiosISIS is Khornate
17:56.21ImperiosBush was a Black Templar
17:56.49HachimanAnd 9/11 was an inside job
17:57.21Imperios9/11 was actually one of Abaddon's Blackstone Fortresses attacking Terra
17:57.38ImperiosAnd then Chapter Master Dubyaus issued Exterminatus
17:57.57dromWahhabism
17:58.21OluapPlayerI'll take the lack of answer as a n
17:58.22OluapPlayero
17:58.35ImperiosOluapPlayer: We can but it will be short
17:58.38ImperiosI don't have much time
17:58.56HachimanMay as well not do it then
18:00.07ImperiosAlright
18:01.03ImperiosI'd say Ben Laden was Horus, ISIS is the Black Legion and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is Abaddon
18:01.14ImperiosBut then again ISIS is actually competent so maybe not
18:01.51HachimanBut Abaddon is not as incompetent as people make him out to be hur
18:02.07dromWormy_: Found a joke that my physics teacher cracked a while ago: "It’s so hot in Texas we’re having to feed the chickens crushed ice to keep them from laying hard boiled eggs."
18:02.07ImperiosTrue
18:02.27HachimanThe only reason he had not breached Cadia until the 13th Black Crusade is because he did not *want* to conquer Cadia then
18:02.32HachimanHe always had ulterior motives
18:02.36Wormy_drom:  Hot dayumn
18:04.00dromWormy_: That was in 2011
18:05.01Wormy_lol
18:09.46XhoBah
18:09.52Wormy_So gamers have been doping to improve performance and will soon be tested http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33650486
18:10.10Wormy_At tournaments obviously
18:10.58dromlmao
18:11.28Wormy_To tell the truth I find nothing more boring that watching people play games.  Twitch is just dull to me, and especially these tournaments
18:11.50XhoWatching streams is better in groups
18:12.00DarcySupremestThis is true
18:12.12dromIn case anyone is wondering about what game is being played in the top picture; It is Warcraft III
18:12.16DarcySupremestyou also need to either enjoy watching somebody else or love the deeper tactics of the game
18:12.57DarcySupremestFor example, I watch Splatoon streams because I really care about watching other players problem solve and fight with tactics
18:13.35XhoOluapPlayer: "Kormacvish: Lackey"      Something's telling me the Kormacvar weren't emotionally inclined
18:14.00OluapPlayerJust remember how Arkarixus was back when he was introduced
18:14.44XhoKithworto - i'd say top cunt but as a kicath i'm used to it
18:15.00OluapPlayerArkarixus - cept i got better and u didnt
18:15.45XhoPsychologically re-wiring a Kicath isn't something someone should do
18:16.03XhoUnless you psychologically re-wire them to become super friendly
18:16.16XhoWhich is actually quite scary as a forethought
18:17.29XhoIf anyone's seen the Lego Movie, imagine a Kicath like Princess Unikitty
18:17.36XhoThat would be scary as fuck
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18:17.50MonetHello
18:17.59dromHello
18:18.10OluapPlayerWhy would you re-wire a Kicath's mind in the first place hur
18:18.45Xho1.6 quadrillion Kicath and only 1 one of them has a vaguely humane attitude
18:18.50Xhodey got problems
18:19.01OluapPlayergas dem all
18:19.11XhoThe 1 being Zeta
18:19.45OluapPlayerMu is also fairly humane
18:19.46XhoThe rest of them are either cold, analytical machines or psychotic death machines
18:19.49OluapPlayerBut he's unpopular cus ded arm
18:20.19XhoMu hacks off his arm -> an even ugiler arm grows back
18:20.34OluapPlayerMu - nonsense dis
18:20.59MonetXho: Correction, only 1 that we know of :)
18:21.07XhoOne that we know of yeah
18:21.20XhoBut evidently most Kicath don't understand compassion
18:21.24OluapPlayerThis is Xho we're talking about
18:21.27OluapPlayerIt's just one
18:21.40XhoWell Kithworto does
18:21.46OluapPlayer2 den
18:21.55XhoBut from a nine-dimensional god point of view which is not the same
18:22.06OluapPlayer1.5 den
18:22.33XhoKithworto's idea of compassion is if that the Gigaquadrant is suffering then those causing the suffering will be obliterated
18:22.59OluapPlayerPlaying Mass Effect again made me want to do fiction with Borealis but I can't do anything because the wiki is as dead as a skeleton
18:23.16Xhowell revive dis shi
18:23.25XhoMonet Wormy_ drom: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11745439_10206405781175230_2469477606421918288_n.jpg?oh=e82652ec7fbaee0e9017fedb1c951b40&oe=5650E58D
18:23.31OluapPlayerEasier said than done
18:25.02MonetOluapPlayer: COuld od stuff with Valserion
18:25.20OluapPlayerEh I'm not sure about that
18:25.23XhoI did have that idea for Vekaron's crew and the loyalty-mission-esque idea
18:25.40XhoBut that requires coming up with...ideas
18:25.47XhoSomething I cannot do on command
18:26.02DarcySupremestSpeaking of ideas
18:26.38DarcySupremestMonet, this shot in the dark is like being in a dark empty room, with a blindfold on while being blind, thats how much of a shot in the dark this is
18:26.44XhoHas anyone seen the combat footage for Fallout 4
18:26.49OluapPlayerThere is that, but it would need ideas, plus it sounds like it'd be rather short
18:26.55DarcySupremestbut do you by any chance have the Titanpad from our RP aeons ago
18:27.04XhoOluapPlayer: Eh it's still something
18:27.33MonetDarcy: Not sure o nthat
18:28.05DarcySupremestIt was worth a shot,
18:28.11MonetWhy do you ask?
18:28.20DarcySupremestI was going to publish the one we did  and the one I did earlier with GD
18:28.49DarcySupremestbecause I need that canon if I'm going to be involved with the Schism/even get out of Andromeda in general
18:29.30MonetI might have it archived
18:30.08DarcySupremestIf you ever did find it, shit would be so baller
18:30.39DarcySupremestLike I know how they both go down, me and GD's and yours so I can theoretically just write them down by hand
18:30.48OluapPlayerXho: if you can think of stuff and Hachiman is up for it then we can make it happen
18:30.50DarcySupremestbut having them would make it easier
18:31.01XhoI have ideas for Kilchárunya and Kit
18:31.09XhoKamaris not so sure
18:31.13OluapPlayer1) kill things             2) kill things slightly gentlier
18:31.20XhoMore or less hur
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18:33.43dromsudo killall
18:34.12OluapPlayerI can use this fiction to update on the galaxy's current state
18:34.17OluapPlayerI've been wanting to add 2 more councillors
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18:35.38XhoWhat races would they be
18:36.01OluapPlayerStill deciding
18:37.19OluapPlayerI was thinking of Paladian and Murgur, but it might be too early for the Murgur to become a council empire
18:37.33OluapPlayerTheir empire is like only a decade old
18:37.34XhoDidn't know the Paladians were council
18:37.48OluapPlayercant u reed
18:37.59OluapPlayerI'm choosing 2 races to be new councillors
18:38.03Xhoo rite
18:38.06OluapPlayerThey're not councillors yet
18:38.20HachimanHow about
18:38.22HachimanKormacvar
18:38.24XhoZí-Jittorám councillor
18:38.41XhoZí-Jittorám - legalisation of weed                     best councillor 2810
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18:38.53GD12Hi all
18:39.05HachimanHai
18:39.14HachimanDarcySupremest: Look who is here
18:39.33GD12Um this is probably a short thing but I don't really know when I'll have as much fiction time as I'd like since I'm in a research lab now and I have PhD applications later this year
18:40.07HachimanFair enough
18:40.11OluapPlayerGD12 the unded
18:40.52MonetGD12: Wow!
18:40.56MonetCongrats on that!
18:41.11Hachimanbrb dinner
18:41.47OluapPlayerActually wait I'm dum
18:41.50OluapPlayerPaladian and Rovegar
18:41.53OluapPlayerThat's what I'll go for
18:42.05GD12aye, thanks though getting into a CS PhD program is apparently notoriously hard
18:42.21XhoKithworto - watchin u crazy essence creeps
18:42.22DarcySupremestMother fuck
18:42.37DarcySupremestGuys I don't mean to worry you all but I think I might be the Second Coming
18:43.26DarcySupremestAlso, Congratumalations GD
18:43.44GD12Lol I haven't applied yet, acceptance rate is 2.2 or 3% iirc
18:43.59OluapPlayerI wanted the Rovegar to join the council ever since they were introduced
18:44.05OluapPlayerIt's been so long I forgot about my own plans
18:44.32Xhodur
18:44.56XhoRovegar - full assimilation plans compleet
18:45.36GhelHello.
18:45.46GD12Hello
18:46.55Wormy_Congratulations
18:47.47DarcySupremestGD12,, perhaps you can help me with locating some iin your short time here
18:48.04GD12aye, I'll prob be on today for an hour or two
18:48.41GD12pm me?
18:49.41DarcySupremestyessir
18:58.38dromGD12: PhD? Niceeeee!
18:59.15GD12Likely case is that the admissions results is they'll force me to take a Masters first then proceed to a Phd from there instead of directly going to a Phd
19:01.28GD12PhD admissions are no laughing matter
19:03.29XhoWell I've decided to update to the current Dark Injection
19:04.18GD12nice!
19:04.29GD12what are the changes it has
19:06.00XhoWell
19:06.09XhoIf you use the current DI then you'd know
19:06.20XhoThere's too much too describe
19:06.25TekDroidGood luck out there GD12
19:06.38GD12aye ty
19:07.57XhoYeah same
19:07.59Wormy_GD12:  I suppose it is always worth a try, or you won't know.  But if you was studying in the UK, you pretty stand no chance without a Masters.  But that ain't bad.  Make sure when doing a Masters or PhD that you can get enough money to support yourself
19:08.48TekDroidAye
19:09.25GD12Aye, the likely case that I get a masters isn't too bad since i can just go onto a PhD after that (and masters is only a year)
19:09.32Wormy_No offense but it's kinda crazy when I know people doing PhD's in their 30's or 40's, but then it is still worth a try if you think there ios a chance there
19:09.55GD12Lots of PhD students spent time in industry first then went onto PhD
19:10.14GD12I'm a fetus compared to them
19:10.39XhoOne thing about this though
19:10.44XhoMy editor background is a little odd
19:10.47Wormy_I think they often expect some career experience, but maybe you can show that you'll pick up quickly
19:10.53XhoThe black background comes up with a lot of strange shit
19:11.39OluapPlayerYeah
19:11.50Xho...I have to edit it out don't I
19:11.51OluapPlayerTake pictures in an editor other than the creature one
19:12.15OluapPlayerOnly the creature editor has the weird backgrounds
19:12.17XhoAh I see
19:12.39ImperiosOluapPlayer: How much sex did making the Councillors agree to let the Rovegar join involve
19:13.31OluapPlayerIf by sex you mean be one of the most advanced races in the galaxy and bringing considerable economic, cultural and military power to the Alliance
19:13.33OluapPlayerLots of sex
19:13.34XhoKithworto - regrettably                                  some
19:13.52Wormy_GD12:  Can you get programmes that incorporate a masters into PhD?
19:14.43GD12Aye, I think so. Generally what happens is that the better people not admitted into the PhD program directly are just allowed to enter Masters then go to Phd after that
19:14.52OluapPlayerYou only become a councillor if you really deserve it and if a majority of the current council agrees with it
19:14.59GD12I think if I applied to Europe I'd have to get a masters before PhD
19:15.01OluapPlayerConsidering Kithworto's stance I take he was an oppositor
19:15.03ImperiosJust kidding, don't take it seriously
19:15.18ImperiosIt actually makes a lot of sense and from the story point of view adds a lot more depth
19:15.24GD12For example, I think Cambridge does its Math PhD Placement's based on the results of its Fourth year Master (Math Tripos III)
19:15.28Wormy_Most likely
19:15.45ImperiosNow we have honest dicks as well as shifty dicks
19:15.53OluapPlayerI can imagine the voting having gone either Xeron and Kithworto opposing, or just Xeron
19:16.00OluapPlayerXeron doesn't trust the Rovegar
19:16.06ImperiosHonest being the Kicath
19:17.19Wormy_GD:  I've been meaning to ask you, is Attero Dominatus named after the Sabaton song?
19:17.38OluapPlayerNow that there's a Rovegar in the council, Vileraz's next step is use them to deal with the Ganthorea and the Kondrakar while she goes on with her evil overlady business
19:18.22GD12aye
19:20.04DarcySupremestOkay sweet, well i have info from GD saved and I can't really do shit until EA puts the servers back online
19:20.09DarcySupremestso I'm going to bed
19:20.13DarcySupremestSee yall
19:21.31GD12nighty
19:21.47Monetokay
19:22.01Wormy_bye
19:22.34Wormy_GD:  If you have time, GXS has progressed somewhat http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism#Andromeda_Campaign
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19:24.30XhoSo I see a skull part
19:24.35Xhois going to have fun with this
19:24.53GD12Ooh, I've got to read it
19:24.58OluapPlayerskellington
19:25.10OluapPlayerIt's rather lowquality though
19:25.15OluapPlayerlow quality*
19:27.34XhoNow I can make even scarier shit
19:27.52HachimanRovegar as a Councillor
19:27.59Hachimandis maeks me feel gud
19:28.30OluapPlayerget ur boner outta heer
19:28.45Hachimannon
19:29.40OluapPlayerStill lots of sex
19:29.51OluapPlayerThere is totally a Rovegar consort somewhere at Hyperborea right now
19:29.59Wormy_Though the war is still at a level of respect rather than AD http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Our_condolences
19:30.52Wormy_It won't remain that way most likely
19:30.54HachimanI wonder what it would be like to cuddle a Rovegar
19:31.05OluapPlayerDepends of her age
19:31.56OluapPlayerIf you try and cuddle an adult one you'd get blasted away by a 3 meter tall woman with psychic powers
19:33.37HachimanWe seriously need to show off how potent Rovegar psychic powers are
19:34.07OluapPlayerWe did with Erureidan defeating an entire Zarkhator invasion by himself
19:34.33HachimanYeah but Erureidan does not really represent the average Rovegar hur
19:34.43OluapPlayerTrue
19:34.46OluapPlayerfor one he has a dong
19:38.31ImperiosAs you were speaking I made a few images
19:38.39ImperiosRepresenting different periods in Radeon history
19:38.45Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7c/Church_Sigil.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725193753 That's for 2009 Radeons
19:39.02Imperioshttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/14/Masaari_Sigil.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725193752 2010
19:39.09Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4e/Dei%27Ar_Sigil.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725193754 2011
19:39.14HachimanI wish I could make sigils
19:39.21Imperioshttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0c/Divinarian_Sigil.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725193753 2012
19:39.39HachimanI wanna know how to make an efficient symbol hur
19:39.40OluapPlayerGeltastra - poke dem right in the eye
19:41.11ImperiosWith Alhassal and the Radeons I actually used real religious symbols and tried to draw their inspiration for them
19:43.12ImperiosThen I did some GIMP magic
19:43.33HachimanI only really use Paint.Net rather than GIMP because I find GIMP difficult to use hur
19:43.39ImperiosActually all you need is GIMP layering
19:43.56ImperiosI make the basic shape in Paint.NET
19:44.12ImperiosThen put it into GIMP layer by layer, add the outlines and then texture and colour them
19:49.33OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fe/Nayanur_Nens.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725194911 diplomat slut has evolved into councillor slut
19:50.35XhoKithworto - deer god
19:51.06Imperioshttp://cs14108.vk.me/c540108/v540108929/101e3/uxnMJzXJC8A.jpg This looks kinda beautiful
19:51.17Imperios"Obey me bastard!"
19:52.07OluapPlayerShe's the same gal who was last seen calling the rest of the Alliance races "dirt-eaters"
19:53.00ImperiosXho: http://cs14108.vk.me/c540108/v540108929/10068/-3TPbyNTE0Q.jpg Now we know the nationality of Westerosian dragons
19:53.11Xhodur
19:53.48TekDroidO.o
19:54.00HachimanOluapPlayer: <3
19:54.04HachimanVery good model that
19:54.18OluapPlayerget ur boner outta heer i sed
19:54.41Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/60/Pyylsas2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725195407 So I remade this guy
19:54.58HachimanLiterally Nito
19:55.10OluapPlayerHe doesn't look at cuddly as Nito
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19:56.06OluapPlayerXho: Remind me did you want the Mahanayans to be PCA members or just allies?
19:56.23XhoDidn't mind either way
19:56.29OluapPlayerasdfasdf
19:57.58XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11225448_1163785980313935_1751096998668244333_n.jpg?oh=e638fc9daf7cb166a31ba80254ae7695&oe=564A5C0A harry p0tter and the deathly thall0ws
19:58.52Hachimanhur
20:00.10ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: https://2ch.hk/po/src/9995320/14378005809820.jpg
20:00.24HachimanJesus
20:00.59OluapPlayerpu
20:16.23OluapPlayerXho: gimme Kithworto's stance on accepting the Paladians and Rovegar on the Council
20:16.38XhoPaladians - Yes                Rovegar - No
20:16.45OluapPlayerrite
20:17.08OluapPlayerNayanur - rude
20:18.23HachimanHachi - paladians yis           rovegar fuk yis
20:18.42OluapPlayerur not a councillor
20:33.05Wormy_mad doges http://imgur.com/gallery/x6GT2
20:37.51OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Borealis:_New_Councillors thingy
20:45.10HachimanXeron is a racist it appears hur
20:47.27MonetAlensia - You're learning this now?
20:47.47OluapPlayerI nearly had Xeron call the Rovegar "frilly white women"
20:47.57OluapPlayerBut when I thought about it, it sounded actually racist
20:47.57Hachimanolol
21:04.52TekDroid~test
21:04.53infoboti guess test is not funny
21:06.24Wormy_nsfw http://imgur.com/gallery/spdjs
21:06.34Wormy_and/or cringe
21:08.43OfficerJackalWormy_: top kek m8
21:09.12Hachiman"jack off in the shower so often that I get a boner when it rains"
21:09.12Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9b/Vanguard2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150725210822 New Vanguard
21:09.14HachimanMy sides
21:09.34HachimanXho: Anorexia; not even once
21:10.25XhoThought you were talking about me for a second
21:11.12MonetHe's a creepy dude with that odd helmet
21:11.48Wormy_I think I'm going to start rehauling my paegs
21:11.58XhoHe is the Fantasy Universe's answer to the Bogeyman
21:12.08XhoSo yes he's meant to look creepy
21:12.53XhoExcept rather than being an old legend he's actually real and...well
21:12.58XhoA void denizen
21:14.13MonetXho: "God - I deeply regret some of you" had me lol hard
21:14.21XhoHeh
21:15.55TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/lozqFZf.jpg Hyperlanes still need to be fixed, but I made some tweaks to the Katar map, mostly trying out some background details
21:20.15OfficerJackalTekDroid: dank
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21:21.16Wormy_paegsEverytime I try to edit SporeWiki Murphy's Law takes effect.
21:22.23MonetYou mean you lose everything you work on?
21:23.03Wormy_paegsNo, I lose internet connection before I can even start
21:23.22Wormy_paegsIn fact I think it is doing it again
21:25.16GhelHmm. If people visit different Planes of Existence (as has been known to happen in fiction), and those people have multiple timelines in which they visit those Planes, does it mean those Planes have multiple timelines too?
21:27.09Xho"Cheese." - Santorakh, 2015
21:27.34Wormy_paegsCheese could imply they do, if it has holes.
21:28.18HachimanWell the Realm of Dreams exists outside of time
21:28.21GhelAs something made of ordinary matter, cheese most certainly does have multiple timelines.
21:29.06Wormy_paegsFor my planes of existence, they are "inner spaces", consciousness's hyper-perception of reality.  So they definately would
21:29.38XhoIt's not something worth explaining if you ask me
21:30.37GhelIt's just something I've thought of for considering where the different planes fit into the cosmology of the omniverse.
21:31.11Wormy_paegsFor minem they can be subsumed as the same universe,
21:31.35Wormy_paegsThey are like the reality tunnels of psychonauts
21:32.17GhelAnd I'm not entirely sure what "existing outside of time" is supposed to mean for most planes, except for the fact that entropic effects such as ageing don't occur. It certainly seems you can describe different events occuring - people visiting a plane and then leaving it, for example - which is pretty much the definition of time.
21:33.25GhelNot having timelines is something that could be expected for Essence realms... but I wondered how that would fit in with non-Essence visitors that do have timelines.
21:35.22Wormy_paegsReality tunnels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTYA5wXfdCo
21:36.29Wormy_paegsActually this reminds me to redo Elemental
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21:48.32Wormy_paegsI need help
21:48.43Wormy_paegsWarlords have sector control
21:48.54Wormy_paegsWho should run the subsector tasks?
21:49.05Wormy_paegsI want another fancy name
21:49.07HachimanWarlords' second-in-commands I suppose
21:50.51Wormy_paegsMaybe "Sheriff"
21:51.11GD12Warlad
21:51.26HachimanSheriff, Patrons, Adjutants
21:52.01Wormy_paegsAdjutants would be perfect
21:52.02HachimanNgh now you make me wanna do cowboy stuff again hur
21:55.16Wormy_paegsI think I should actually elaborate what 'Order' is philosiophically and maybe diverge it a little from Western concept
22:04.29dromMonetAway Vincent20100 TekDroid: Redid most of the Nomatarian's page http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Nomatarian
22:04.56dromBut the "Society" bit and beyond are what's left of the older page.
22:20.44GD12~beep MonetAway
22:20.44infobotACTION informs MonetAway that the beeper is no longer in service
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22:36.30AdmiralPandahi all
22:37.39OluapPlayerHi
22:42.11HachimanEugh I can hear from my room that there are a bunch of drunken girls in town that are singing "Oh Sweet Child of Mine"
22:43.17HachimanOh wait, "Paradise City" even
22:52.45GD12hai
22:56.40XhoMonetAway: So playing as Trevor -> chasing a fat woman down a metro tunnel spouting abuse at her whilst armed with a shotgun
22:57.24MonetAwayXho: The Trevor Philips Exercise Program.
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23:15.06ImpyDroidTechnobliterator: Hi
23:15.15ImpyDroidWqnted to ask you something
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23:17.32DrodoEmpireHello
23:21.25dromMonetAway Xho: On the bright side of the million-company competition, Trevor Philips Exercise Program is probably the least lethal one.
23:24.47dromBy the way, Monet. Seen my updates?
23:25.10Monetreading now
23:28.10MonetAs a biologist I'm not sure if muscles can work without some rigidity
23:28.59MonetThe arms could be connected via some form of cartilage - its softer than bone but can still provide structure.
23:30.54dromI'll look into that later.
23:31.31dromI actually based the idea on the front legs in cats and dogs.
23:33.27MonetNews to me.
23:34.16MonetI was sure that cats and dogs had front legs connected to the body via a high shoulder blade
23:34.42AdmiralPandaMonet: Sharks say hi
23:35.02AdmiralPandaand by that I mean cartilageous skeletons do work
23:35.45MonetWe have proof then.
23:36.37MonetThough submarine environemnts are mroe forgiving towards possible skeletons.
23:36.48AdmiralPandayou're right in that muscles do need attachment points to function though
23:39.59MonetDislocated shoulders
23:40.32MonetVery flexible and free-moving, but not firm at all
23:40.57AdmiralPandahm, ok there you might have a problem
23:41.10dromYeah. I was supposed to describe about that, but I thought that would make up a too wordy sentence.
23:41.23AdmiralPandaat least if it's dislocated in the sense of a human having a dislocated limb
23:41.53Wormy_paegsAdded *loads* of new and revised info.  Also I will ask Liquid to give me a version without "partisan" when he can for decoration http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Society
23:43.09MonetI'm guessing you were after double-joinging?
23:43.10dromCats have 'free-floating' clavicle bones, where their forelimbs are attached to, connecting with the shoulders.
23:44.36dromDogs: "...the front legs are loose and flexible, with only muscle attaching them to the torso."
23:45.10dromI could be wrong
23:45.57AdmiralPandaok I took a look at that, and now I sorta get what you mean
23:46.27AdmiralPandaso basically the connective tissue holding the arm in place is based on muscles
23:46.33Monethttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m78qtyXVYM1qgtifgo1_1280.jpg well here's a German Shepard skeleton
23:46.45AdmiralPandarather than being connective tissues
23:47.17AdmiralPandaso yeah that checks out, just it's less stable
23:49.19AdmiralPandahas anyone else hear seen the Stages of Facebook Grief?
23:49.36MonetNo
23:49.42AdmiralPandait's basically the stages of grief but applied to Facebook posts, and it fits so appropriately it's hilarious
23:49.42dromNada
23:49.48AdmiralPandaFacebook updates*
23:56.25dromI'll let the description be for the moment. I was basically more thinking about the muscles are actually connected to a free-floating, or dislocated, you name it, shoulder bone and the thorax bones than having the bones linked with ligament hubs.
23:56.53dromjoints

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