IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150724

00:00.07TechnobliteratorSo I can't blame them for leaving after HSW ;P
00:00.53OluapPlayerI assumed they left because of the whole Annihilation business
00:00.53HachimanThe Zazane would have done but considering they got fucked upn pretty hard by zombies and Corruptus, plus the onslaught of the TOW, I imagine they would opt for somewhere more cosy hur
00:01.09MonetDraconis - Hey-oh.
00:01.33HachimanPlus I imagine they knew Zazane were present in Andromeda and possibly Borealis by the time the War of Claim breaks out
00:01.42OluapPlayerCorruptus - yall mofos need shu'rimrodir
00:01.42HachimanWar of Claim being revised name for dum HSW
00:01.43MonetDraconis - Andromeda's nice *panics and punches a Mali cultist away* quiet too *pushes away an Inheritant*
00:02.29HachimanI cannot remember when Borealis opened up again
00:02.34HachimanFor extragalactics
00:04.00OluapPlayerThe current canon is that UNO and the Zazane went to the Milky Way, then Borealis, then the Zazane went to Andromeda
00:04.13MonetI wonder if it could be possible to dial back when Zazane and Draconis met each other.
00:05.25HachimanI don't see why the Zazane would go to the Milky Way anymore
00:05.43TechnobliteratorThe Ottzello Sector was moved there as a temporary solution
00:05.55MonetThe nit was moved to Boeralis iirc
00:06.03HachimanMonet: Probably, there were the Andromedan Zazane kingdoms centuries before the Great Migration of the Migratory Powers in current canaon
00:06.06Hachimancanon even
00:06.06TechnobliteratorLater, it was moved to Borealis
00:06.39MonetHachiman: We can still have Tyraz and Uriel not meeting personally until the Andromeda War.
00:06.43HachimanYeah
00:06.44TechnobliteratorMostly due to a Fourth Ottzello War between the Zazane and UNO, but Zargoth and the Taldar always planned for UNO to be in Borealis
00:06.54Technobliteratordue to the UNO = Traffphyd stuff
00:07.05OluapPlayerIf the Zazane were never at the MW then they'd have no reason to ever be at Borealis
00:07.19Hachimanrite then they'd have been at the Milky Way then
00:07.42TechnobliteratorThey could move after the brief war between them and UNO
00:07.53MonetUriel's got enough aides and ambassadors that actually meeting with him is supposed to be an accomplishment for most people.
00:08.29MonetAlthough "most people" is...quadrillinos lol
00:08.48TechnobliteratorI think it'll be interesting when the DI and UNO go to war
00:08.52OluapPlayerShu'ytro - dont need no invite *teleports to dreams*
00:09.06MonetUriel - Fuk off I dun wanna eat my son!
00:09.21OluapPlayerShu'ytro - its full of vitamins tho
00:09.34HachimanNot gonna lie, I don't know what I am gonna do with the Zazane once the fiction with Hachi and Kol is over
00:09.48HachimanAnd honestly I am quite content leaving them alone afterward
00:10.04OluapPlayerYou told me the Hachi Kol fic was meant to be their conclusion
00:10.18HachimanIt is
00:11.03TechnobliteratorAs in, they go extinct afterwards?
00:11.08HachimanNo, not extinct
00:11.08MonetHachiman: Wasn't the brood going to break up after?
00:11.22HachimanYeah, the Brood would have broken up at the end of GM, with the Hachi / Kol fic taking place after GM
00:12.02HachimanThe conclusion of the Zazane would effectively be their equivalent of another Dark Ages period where they are divided and split into separate warbands, kingdoms, mercenary and pirate groups, etc
00:13.21HachimanAnd while it opens up a lot of opportunity for future stories with the Zazane, I am honestly wanting to move on from them at this point
00:13.39TechnobliteratorI think I need to redo UNO's relations section
00:13.44TechnobliteratorAnd page
00:13.49Technobliterator:    |
00:14.00TechnobliteratorI can't remember why I made a relations page
00:14.14MonetTo go int omore detail regarding each relation?
00:14.15HachimanSo I do not mind concluding them with something that sorta provides open interpretation as to what their fate will eventually be
00:14.30HachimanPlus it means that if I ever wanna go back to working on them, I can pick up where I left off
00:14.34TechnobliteratorI don't see why I'd need to
00:14.39TechnobliteratorBut, eh
00:14.46Monet<PROTECTED>
00:14.48OluapPlayer2lazi2expand
00:14.48TechnobliteratorI won't delete it
00:14.56TechnobliteratorI'll fix it tomorrow
00:15.05TechnobliteratorAlong with...lots of writing
00:15.09HachimanMonet: Aye, that and kingdoms that oppose the DI as well
00:15.10Technobliteratorno gym for me, I guess
00:15.30MonetKervon Daktis - Been ages since I killed Zazane.
00:15.47OluapPlayery not today
00:16.01MonetKervon - Well..cept for this one shit the other month who called me Uriel's bootlicker.
00:16.09Hachimanhur
00:16.13Technobliteratorcuz no desktop atm
00:16.20OluapPlayerug
00:16.22OluapPlayerfug even
00:21.14HachimanIn hindsight I still have no idea why I called Crispy 'Crispy'
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00:22.22HachimanI mean I have thought of definite reasons for it now but back then I never thought about it
00:22.44OluapPlayerAccording to you when I asked, it was because you like barbeque
00:23.10HachimanOh dear God
00:23.20HachimanI was literally retarded when I was younger
00:23.49TechnobliteratorPreeeetty sure I was worse
00:24.17HachimanYeah; you thought Sollow was a good character
00:24.22OluapPlayerkek
00:24.22TechnobliteratorI didn't think he was good, no
00:24.27TechnobliteratorI thought he worked
00:24.31TechnobliteratorI still think he worked
00:24.48OluapPlayerIf by work you mean made me want to strangle you, yes he did
00:25.05HachimanYes; not strangle Sollow, strangle *you*
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00:25.12TechnobliteratorIn that case he didn't work, you were meant to strangle him
00:25.15Technobliteratorhi panda
00:25.16HachimanHai
00:25.19MonetHi
00:25.27AdmiralPandahi
00:25.34OluapPlayerStrangling him wouldn't work and would just make me angrier hur
00:25.52OluapPlayerHello
00:26.07TechnobliteratorBut he died, didn't he?
00:26.13MonetEventually
00:26.18MonetTook his bloody time though
00:26.20TechnobliteratorUnless a Borealis War remake happens, he's not coming back
00:26.35AdmiralPandawho's this?
00:26.39OluapPlayerI already left my 2 cents about remaking the Borealis War
00:26.44OluapPlayeraka not happenin bub
00:27.00TechnobliteratorAnd if it does, I'll...dunno
00:27.16MonetAdmiralPanda: Sollow
00:27.38AdmiralPandathat was the... creepy guy who licked his sword?
00:27.47Monetyes
00:27.47HachimanYeah
00:28.03HachimanAnd refused to die because of Jo's fetish for nanomachine-empowered men
00:28.15AdmiralPandaI remembered a name!
00:28.38AdmiralPandalife achievement unlocked
00:28.45TechnobliteratorThat's not a fetish :   |
00:28.55OluapPlayer4 u it is
00:29.29HachimanYou had nanomachines as part of a RELIGION
00:29.30MonetYou put nanomachines everywhere
00:30.00MonetYeah...
00:31.31MonetIsn't Chronoscopic caused by even smalelr nanomachines?
00:31.36Moneteven smaller*
00:31.46TechnobliteratorNope
00:32.01TechnobliteratorOr maybe
00:32.09TechnobliteratorI can't remember the technical details
00:32.19OluapPlayerAll pages are replaced with just "NANOMACHINES SON" and a navbox
00:32.50TechnobliteratorIn my defense
00:33.08TechnobliteratorI always use them in useful places where they make sense
00:33.11Technobliterator:    |
00:33.29HachimanRELIGION
00:33.36MonetI remember when Rebaris fired off on a rant when Falrik mentioned that the gold walls of the Iron FIst were assembled with nanomachines.
00:34.37OluapPlayerI don't remember that
00:34.51TechnobliteratorIt happened
00:34.56TechnobliteratorWhile Rebaris was kidnapped
00:35.13TechnobliteratorAnd he complained that everyone from Ottzello puts nanomachines in everything
00:35.26OluapPlayerhe was rite
00:36.09TechnobliteratorBut they're put in useful places everywhere
00:37.03MonetNo they're jsut put everywhere.
00:37.25TechnobliteratorEverywhere where they're usefuk
00:37.29TechnobliteratorWhich is a lot of places
00:37.29MonetWhy did the walls of the Iron Fist need to be nanoengineered again?
00:37.37OluapPlayerEverywhere, including the useful and not useful places
00:38.05TechnobliteratorBecause nanoengineering is always miles faster and more precise than any other kind of construction?
00:38.14TechnobliteratorIt can be done almost instantly
00:38.16MonetFaster idk
00:38.23MonetMrpe precise likley
00:38.49TechnobliteratorIt's like arguing that cells are overused
00:38.57TechnobliteratorAnd that cells are put in everything
00:39.14MonetCells aren't mentioned absolutely everywhere in stories
00:39.30TechnobliteratorExcept they are
00:39.32Hachiman"ur moms a nanomachine"
00:39.45TechnobliteratorAny study of biology will be filled with references to cells
00:40.01MonetBiology, yes
00:40.05OluapPlayerVolim - don't give a shit as long as it's shiny and valuable
00:40.13MonetBut what about the action genre?
00:40.17TechnobliteratorCells are part of organic tissue, part of antibodies, part of the nervous system
00:40.33TechnobliteratorNanomachines are literally nothing but robotic cells
00:40.56TechnobliteratorIf I renamed them "robocells", which they basically are, it'd be more accurate
00:41.01The_RandomnessAntibodies are not composed of cells, afaik. They're just proteins
00:41.07OluapPlayerIt'd sound weirder hur
00:41.12TechnobliteratorBut you get the idea right?
00:42.01MonetI guess.
00:42.27TechnobliteratorWhen cells are used in the construction and function of everything, and something to replicate cells is used frequently by an empire, it will be used in the construction and function of eveything
00:42.39MonetWouldn't nanoengineering cheapen the walls of the Iron Fist?
00:42.51TechnobliteratorNo?
00:43.11TechnobliteratorIt'd allow them to self-heal, for one thinf
00:43.20TechnobliteratorAnd morph into whatever shape
00:43.23MonetI'm referring to assembly
00:43.47TechnobliteratorThat's where cells and nanomachines differ, the nanomachines have more freedom
00:43.50MonetHand-crafted furniture tends to have a higher price tag than factory-assembled furniture.
00:43.50TechnobliteratorNo
00:44.07TechnobliteratorIt's the same material
00:44.33TechnobliteratorI don't think the way it was assembled would affect the value much
00:44.47MonetIt can in the real world.
00:45.21TechnobliteratorOkay, but you countermeasure it with all the benefits that come from assembling it with nanomachines
00:45.39TechnobliteratorAnd how there'd still be an architect earning his or her cash from it
00:45.54TechnobliteratorAnd it'd amount to the same price
00:45.58HachimanOhgod let's not have an argument over this
00:47.14DrodoEmpireIt wouldn't, depending on the price of nanomachines. I'm assuming the price of deploying nanomachines would be lower than paying workers and buying equipment to build it
00:47.47MonetThis is partly becoming an economics argument so I might stop myself.
00:47.47DrodoEmpireIf not, then unless nanomachines are vastly more efficient and faster than I see no point in using them over conventional workers
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00:48.09DrodoEmpireDoesn't really matter though seeing as if it was cheaper to build that is only a good thing
00:48.50TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, not when everything is constructed by robots or slaves
00:49.29MonetBut what I have seen is that bespoke tends to be percieved to be more valuable than mass-produced.
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00:51.04TekDroid~test
00:51.04infoboti guess test is not funny
00:51.11Monethi
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00:51.54TechnobliteratorIf anyone trying to be competitive prices something inferior and less flexible higher than something superior and flexible on the grounds of being "prestigious" and "made by people and not robots", they're doing it wrong
00:51.54TekDroidgoddamn wifi
00:52.03TechnobliteratorI say this, but then Apple products exist
00:52.07Technobliteratorso nvm
00:52.56MonetWell...
00:53.40MonetMass-produced suits can be between £100-200 and fit a variety of sizes. Tailored, made-to-measure suits can cost £500+
00:53.54MonetAnd only fit one person
00:54.41DrodoEmpire^
00:54.57DrodoEmpirePeople like handmade things. It may be somewhat irrational but that's how things work
00:55.00DrodoEmpireSImple as that
00:55.13DrodoEmpireIts a labour costs added into it
00:55.27TechnobliteratorOkay, but
00:55.36DrodoEmpireLabour costs for mass-produced things are considered to be lower as less time as been spent making them
00:56.02DrodoEmpireAn iphone would be *much* more expensive if it was made from scratch by an artisan. :p
00:56.03MonetThe mass-produced suits get made by the dozen on a factory floor, while the tailored suit is made by 1-4 people in a tailor's studio.
00:56.09TechnobliteratorYou're comparing real life scenarios to a fictional scenario where there is a much clearer difference between the products than how it was developed
00:56.36MonetAnd iPhones are very expensive because you're buying the brand
00:56.56DrodoEmpireAnyway
00:59.13MonetActually there is a physical difference between these tailored suits and masss-produced suits
00:59.18TekDroid"buying the brand" doesn't make sense when your paying twice as much for inferior user experience and hardware
00:59.22MonetTailored suits fit better
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01:00.47MonetAnd someone who spends a lot of money on tailored suits probably could tell the difference between a suit that was artisan-made and one that was bought from the local department store.
01:01.15DrodoEmpireTek: I dunno, you'd be surprised
01:04.33MonetAlthough admittedly Part of this comes from my preferences. If I was shown two tables, one plated in gold and the other gilt in gold patterning, I'd pick the gilt table.
01:05.21DrodoEmpireI'm cheap. I'd buy neither and get the wooden coffee table that was on sale half-off. XD
01:06.08HachimanI am probably boring in that I prefer function to decoration
01:06.15MonetI'm not rich either. :P But I'd find a gilt table to be more tasteful than a gold-plated one.
01:06.51HachimanMy bedroom is rather bare of personification or decoration really
01:07.02DrodoEmpireWell yeah if I had unlimited money at my disposal then for sure I'd get the best I can
01:07.04HachimanVery utility-focused
01:07.27TechnobliteratorI want an iMac one day
01:07.27DrodoEmpireHachi: Same. I have a half-finished telescope in my room and that's it. :p
01:08.03DrodoEmpireWell, that and dressers and whatnot and a little bookshelf that comes up to my knee. Nothing that'd indicate its my room in particular though
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01:21.09Wormy-My room is a jumbled mess
01:21.24Wormy-I wish to re-decorate it into cyberpunk decor
01:21.52Wormy-But much of it made DIY, "cus you can buy sci-fi, but not punk"
01:22.25Wormy-bye
02:15.07DrodoAwaytest
02:17.09TekDroidpass
02:19.11TekDroidDrodoAway: In this show this US military base had a random shelf of Tim Horton's coffee mix. XD
02:20.18TekDroidTrue American coffee, eh? :P
02:36.53TekDroid~test
02:36.53infobotwell, test is not funny
02:55.02DrodoAwayTek: lol
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10:35.21DrodoEmpireHey everyone
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10:36.19Wormy_hi
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10:54.44HachimanHai
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10:56.57Wormy_http://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4615/when-and-where-does-attack-on-titan-take-place
10:57.26Wormy_Makes sense if it occured before the Industrial Revolution
11:00.28HachimanHonestly the argument as to where and when SnK takes place is irrelevant to the story hur
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11:01.49JepardiHi
11:02.20HachimanIt is probable that they are a technologically-stagnant society which explains the mish-mash of technology available to them and their architecture
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11:03.27MonetHello
11:03.33Wormy_hi
11:03.38HachimanI myself have reason to believe that the story is set in the future of an alternate Earth
11:03.43HachimanHai
11:03.48Wormy_I guess you could intepret it like that
11:04.10MonetWhat's this?
11:04.33Wormy_I suppose after a nuclear war wiping out most of civilisation the Titans arrival would be dominant
11:04.34HachimanWormy posted a thread discussing where and when Attack on Titan takes place
11:05.33MonetI do somewhat wonder how much humanity could regress in the event of a technological dark age
11:05.35Wormy_You could imagine the Titans were mutants or weapons
11:06.12HachimanLargely everything, including the origin of the Titans, is a mystery at this point and pre-Titan human history has been augmented and outright written out of records or lost
11:06.16Wormy_Of course I think that would not suite the story
11:07.05Wormy_Monet:  In a technological darkage, I don't think tech would cease to exist, but it would cease to evolve
11:07.14HachimanAlthough as of the current storyline in the manga, questions are beginning to get their answer
11:09.47GhelaeWormy_: I know basically nothing about the context of this discussion, but on the general topic of technological dark ages, if the knowledge of how tech works is lost, there's a chance much of the knowledge of how to maintain it will also disappear.
11:09.47MonetWormy_: We might lose the internet, but we;d still be using firearms I reckon
11:09.56Wormy_The society in Attack on Titan obviously has some technological knowledge, those devices (yeah Manga physics) would be hard-pressed to build today
11:10.36Wormy_The Titan killing thing
11:11.21Wormy_Ghelae:  That is the situation in Warhammer 40K.  The God Emperor's life sustaining machine is failing and no-one knows how to fix it
11:12.37Wormy_But generally in past dark ages, society gets paralysed by a lack of creativity, most often viewing it as a taboo and trying to keep lives as static as possible
11:13.10MonetNot for no reaso nthough
11:13.31Wormy_The reasons werre often because of authorities
11:14.00Wormy_But also in meme theory, the "static society memes"
11:14.01MonetAgrarian lifestyles also limit the freedom to engage in higher learning
11:14.41MonetLargely because most of the time farmers are i nthe fields or in the pastures dawn till dusk.
11:14.54HachimanThe Golden Throne cannot be repaired because it was originally not intended to be built as the Golden Throne, and the Emperor Himself - a psychic transhuman far beyond average humanity - built it himself
11:15.19HachimanAlongside the know-how of how to maintain it
11:15.30HachimanBeing lost, I mean
11:15.33Wormy_Why can't he repair it?  Too focused on trying to just stay alive?
11:15.43MonetHe can't move at all
11:16.01HachimanIn case you have not realised Wormy, the Emperor is practically a corpse hur
11:16.12Wormy_I forgot lol
11:16.30Monethttps://theshellcase.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/god-emperor.jpg its hard to do repairs on stuff when you're like this
11:17.09HachimanI also believe that, if anything, the Emperor does not *want* the Golden Throne to be repaired
11:17.12Wormy_What I think I meant was, can't he use his psychic powers telekinetically?
11:17.30Wormy_or to communicate his knowledge
11:17.30MonetThat's a good question
11:17.58HachimanNo, he is using the extent of his psychic powers to keep the Astronomicon - the means to which space travel works for humanity in Warhammer 40K, active and also keeping a fuckton of Daemons out of Terra
11:18.58Wormy_Could you elaborate on the Emperor not wanting it repaired, because then the forces of Chaos will destroy the IoM?
11:19.24HachimanBecause the Emperor would be utterly ashamed of the current state of the Imperium
11:20.04HachimanAnd he has suffered on the Golden Throne for over 10,000 years as of the most current point in the timeline
11:20.13Wormy_I recall he didn't want to be worshipped like he is
11:20.42HachimanHe did not, he believed religion was a weakness and assured that no faiths - only dedication to science - would be prevalent
11:20.52MonetIt seems a little embarrassing that for all his power he's been reduced to being a human lighthouse-slash-reciever station.
11:21.10Wormy_And instead his empire is dedicated to war and is stagnated by it
11:23.36MonetFor a long time I did love how the GW books basically said "do any of you know how bloody hard it is to maintain an empire this big?" when discussing why the Imperium is so fragmented.
11:24.02HachimanI believe it is likely that the Emperor, were he not confined to the Golden Throne since M.31, would have probably pacified a majority of lesser xenos and have allied with the Eldar Craftworlds by M,42
11:24.23HachimanM.42 even
11:25.46HachimanHumanity has been fragmented ever since the Age of Strife - following the Dark Age of Technology - occured
11:26.02HachimanThe Imperium is only gradually picking up the pieces
11:30.28Monethttp://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Warhammer+40k+not+oc_ee9a1c_5112502.png this is hilarious
11:32.39MonetSums up nicely that the Adepta Sororotis are the sexiest women you will never ever be able to do.
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11:36.05HachimanI dunno, female operatives of the Callidus Temple of the Officio Assassinorum are kinda hot hur
11:37.13MonetWell yeah they're an order of Kalcedias.
11:37.46HachimanMinus the fact that Callidus Assassins tend to use very diverse and bizarre methods to get their objectives accomplished, which can be both weird and terrifying
11:42.06MonetSurely its better than the Culexus assassins?
11:42.48HachimanCulexus and Eversor, yea
11:42.51Hachimanyeah even
11:43.28MonetI'd say Eversor are the second tamest.
11:43.36HachimanOh I would not say that
11:43.45MonetThey kill anything in sight, sure
11:43.52HachimanI would say it goes Callidus > Vindicare > Culexus > Eversor
11:43.53MonetAt least they don't mindfuck you.
11:44.45HachimanThey are living transhuman psychological and physical weapons
11:44.58HachimanThey are augmented for the purpose of terror tactics
11:46.11MonetWHat makes Vindacre assassins more uneasy than Callidus?
11:46.31MonetApart from the trouser-soiling paranoia that a bullet could hit you from anywhere at any random moment
11:48.25HachimanHm well I suppose not much really
11:48.37HachimanIf anything, Vindicare Assassins are the tamest Temple
11:48.54HachimanThey kill swiftly and cleanly
11:49.23MonetThe only real negative is you never see your killer
11:49.50MonetBuut I've been playing Deus Ex and that's been me for most of the game.
11:50.06MonetOnly I don't kill you. I'm nice like that :)
11:50.38MonetExcept if you're standing in front of a weak wall. Then just be fortunate that your death will be short.
11:50.47HachimanEversor Assassins are the absolute worst because they are barely even human
11:51.13HachimanThey are described as living bombs more than humans
11:55.51MonetThis talk of assassins makes me want to demosntrate the RIA somewhere.
11:56.50MonetThey are the shadowed hand of the Grand Senate, after all.
11:57.22HachimanAye
11:58.11AdmiralPandaOn the subject of the Golden Throne thing, before he went corpse the Emperor gave the Inquisition a box, and told them to open it only when humanity's need was most dire- the only feature of this box is a symbol found in only one other place
11:58.26AdmiralPandathat other place is kinda close to the primary power junction of the Golden Throne
11:58.46AdmiralPandaas to why the Emperor wants the throne to be shut off
11:58.49AdmiralPandathe guy can regenerate
11:59.37AdmiralPandaso long story short, he wants the throne to be shut off so he can die, regenerate and fix everything
12:01.12Hachimaninb4 the symbol is the power button of the Golden Throne
12:01.39AdmiralPandaprobably is
12:01.59Monet"We don't know what's wrong!" "Have you tried turning it off and then on again?"
12:02.11AdmiralPandapersonally I think it's a reroute to direct the psychic power of the astronomican to keep the webway portal the throne was built around shut off until the emperor revives
12:03.13HachimanIf this was the case of the Golden Throne keeping the Emperor from regenerating, then Tzeentch must be laughing his fucking head off
12:05.47AdmiralPandaprobably is
12:06.05AdmiralPandawell, when he's not busy wondering exactly what Ahriman is up to
12:06.30HachimanI would have thought that Tzeentch knows exactly what Ahriman is up to
12:06.58HachimanIf I recall, his main goal is to attempt breaking into the Black Library
12:07.17AdmiralPandaAhriman is the one guy Tzeentch can't predict
12:07.30AdmiralPandaand yeah, but I mean specifics
12:09.47AdmiralPandathe one thing I find most hilarious is that the Emperor was actually bros with the Eldar to the point of telling his space marines to avoid conflict with them as much as possible
12:10.12AdmiralPandato the point that he was friends with Eldrad
12:10.28HachimanAye
12:10.44HachimanI dunno if the Emperor could lead the Imperium back towards prosperity considering more than half of his Primarchs have either turned to Chaos t
12:10.46Hachimanor died
12:11.53MonetHe's the EMperor though
12:12.01MonetThe greatest scientist in huma nhistory
12:12.09HachimanThe Emperor could not accomplish the Great Crusade by Himself
12:13.02MonetNo but he did pretty well considering all he started with was Sol and twenty genetic tempaltes
12:13.06HachimanI mean even if Jaghatai Khan, Leman Russ, and Vulkan returned from wherever it is they disappeared to, and Lion El'Jonson finally wakes up, Roboute Guilliman and Rogal Dorn are still, as far as we recall, deceased
12:13.23AdmiralPandaRoboute is regenerating in a stasis field. Let that sink in.
12:13.45HachimanI thought that was only propaganda hur
12:14.04MonetIt's Ward
12:14.07AdmiralPandathe power of regeneration was the thing he got from the Emperor
12:14.24MonetWard doesn't want his BF to die.
12:14.46AdmiralPandabut yeah, in all honesty since he did make the original space marines he could probably just do it all over again
12:14.59AdmiralPandaespecially since he's actually got his priorities straight
12:16.00HachimanTrue
12:16.25AdmiralPandathat and the fact that he's a powerful enough psyker to force-of-will warp breaches into closing
12:17.16AdmiralPandathe daemon primarchs are no big deal, the only reason he took so much harm in the Horus fight was he was still trying to redeem the prick
12:17.18Monet"my rebellious kids are lost, so I won't hesitate this time"
12:17.33AdmiralPandahe mindbulleted Horus to death in half a second once he realised he had to
12:17.59MonetTen thousand years of corruption is probably enough for the Emperor to no longer consider the demon primarchs his children.
12:18.41MonetThey've spent so long under the ruinous powers that they simply can't be redeemed
12:18.55HachimanThey may not be a problem to the Emperor but the Emperor cannot really be everywhere all at once, which is why he created the Primarchs in the first place
12:19.51AdmiralPandatrue, but ultimately they will have to come to him
12:20.04AdmiralPandaafter all, his very existence fucks Chaos
12:20.20AdmiralPandasooner or later the gods are gonna send their shiny toys after him
12:20.47HachimanTrue but Chaos has grown in strength considerably since the Horus Heresy considering the awareness of Chaos has grown exponentially
12:21.02MonetEhh
12:21.26HachimanIgnorance of the existence of Chaos was what largely kept the Imperium safe from the taint of the Warp the first time around before the Emperor and Lorgar fell out
12:21.28MonetI recal lthe idea of the Inquisition is basically to make sure no one knows of the Warp's dangers.
12:21.55MonetThere are still billions of humans ignorant to the relaities of the warp.
12:23.51HachimanI suppose that is true
12:24.03AdmiralPandathe vast majority of humanity doesn't even know the warp exists, let alone Chaos
12:25.40Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33647535
12:25.46MonetA lot of cultists probably don't realise what they're truly a part of.
12:26.08HachimanI suppose the largest threat to the Emperor at this point is the presence of the Necrons and Tyranids rather than the Warp in that case
12:26.40AdmiralPandathe Tyranids are the biggest threat to everything except the Necrons at this point
12:26.53MonetThe Emperor's war against the Ruinous Powers was supposed to be eternal anyway.
12:27.18MonetThat or very very long-lasting
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12:35.21MonetHello
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12:35.50HachimanHai Imp and Oluap
12:35.56MonetHello
12:36.15OluapPlayerHi
12:36.21MonetSomething I just realised. In Episode III Anakin talks about how he has become greater than his master or his mentors by embracing the dar kside
12:37.26HachimanWhich is not really possible hur
12:37.45MonetActually I'd say its a pretty apt way t oshow how far he's fallen mentally
12:38.44HachimanAnakin was always rather impulsive
12:38.51HachimanBecause he was a little shit hur
12:39.25MonetThink about it, he's going on an on about how much more potent i nthe Force he is to members of an order that don't want for anything
12:39.57MonetTo the Jedi, being potent in the force is a byprouct of study, not a means to an end.
12:41.24HachimanOnly the Sith deal with absolutes
12:43.43OluapPlayerhttp://hugelolcdn.com/i460/345749.jpg need to show this to Xho
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13:13.36AdmiralPandacan't sleep so I'm back
13:14.49HachimanWelcome back
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13:25.33GhelaeHello.
13:34.58Wormy_Hi
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13:58.39ImpyDroidMonet: Hm. Remember our D&D game?
13:59.04MonetImpyDroid: With Kolim?
13:59.13ImpyDroidNo the next one
13:59.24ImpyDroidI have been wondering why exactly is your character served by a paladin
13:59.55MonetYou fancies a paladin
14:00.13ImpyDroidMaybe there was some sort of compact between a dwarven paladin order and your char's family/house?
14:01.43ImpyDroidLike patronage
14:05.11Wormy__http://imgur.com/gallery/hlzV0Z4
14:06.05Wormy__poochin
14:08.03MonetI feel sorry for the dog now
14:14.45Wormy__Wagmier Poochin lol
14:17.41Wormy__They are on cliffs again https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/itv4
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14:41.36Technobliteratornot sure if should buy ti5 compendium or that dota 2 deadmau5 music pack
14:41.41TechnobliteratorI mean I don't really play the game anymore but still
14:41.43Technobliteratori need this
14:41.47Hachiman>deadmau5
14:41.53HachimanFucking why
14:42.19Technobliteratordeadmau5 is a legend
14:43.27Technobliteratoroh thank fuck
14:43.28TechnobliteratorI can afford both
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14:47.58Technobliteratorwhy is the old client so shit
14:53.11Technobliteratormeh
14:53.15TechnobliteratorI contributed towards both causes
14:53.20Technobliteratornow I can write those pages and eat
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15:37.54WormydroidHi
15:38.54GhelaeHello.
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15:55.09WormydroidHi
15:55.31XhoYo
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16:19.10WormydroidCider is so easy to drink
16:19.57Technobliteratorikr
16:20.11WormydroidI'm not drunk don't worry.
16:20.24XhoOluapPlayer: u
16:20.36Wormydroidbut I am celebrating my distinction!
16:21.59Xhodistinktion
16:22.21WormydroidTest
16:22.23WormydroidI may be later, just tell me to fuck off if I get silly
16:24.16WormydroidDisextinction
16:24.36Technobliterator._.
16:28.01Wormydroidthis cider is like sweet sweet nectar
16:29.59WormydroidAbout going tova festival
16:30.40WormydroidI'm saying "you don't know where that key has been"
16:30.41WormydroidMyvfamily is making an rl blood pact
16:32.17WormydroidMy family and upbribging isvunconventional andvdisfunctional as best, probably why I shout weird thinhs in here
16:33.06WormydroidThe key is too blunt
16:36.57HachimanCider is pretty easy to drink
16:40.33XhoI find cider hard to drink
16:40.36XhoToo...uh
16:40.39XhoSour
16:40.56XhoMore of spirits person myself
16:45.42HachimanI'm fine with both
16:45.54HachimanI find beer a little difficult to drink
16:46.37XhoYeah it's quite filling
16:58.23Technobliteratoryawn
16:58.28Technobliteratormust I fill this page out
17:01.38TechnobliteratorXho, what's the current canon for the Xhodocto and the whole creating the universe stuff?
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17:09.46wormy_druidHI
17:12.33GhelaeHello.
17:13.41XhoTechnobliterator: disputed
17:13.46Technobliteratoralright
17:14.10XhoThe Xhodocto were the Cosmospawn so they're somewhat responsible for the universe becoming habitable
17:14.19Technobliteratorah, right
17:14.21Technobliteratorfair enough
17:14.23XhoAmong trillions of other things
17:15.02Technobliteratorbtw, Ghelae, as I recall you were involved in http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Time , do you have any input on the couple of changes I just made?
17:15.38Ghelaereads it
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17:17.55TechnobliteratorMy basic idea: the 5D time control thingy theory thing still exists, and Chronoscopic is perceived to be a way of communicating to it from the 3rd dimension
17:18.05GhelaeDid you automatically change "time" to "Time"? Because I see in your edit "sometimes" has been changed to "someTimes" and "spacetime" to "spaceTime". :P
17:19.50GhelaeOther than that, you haven't made too huge an edit and there isn't anything in the paragraph you added that seems really wrong.
17:20.07TechnobliteratorI did
17:20.09Technobliterator:  |
17:20.54Technobliteratorfixed
17:21.57GhelaeHowever, the physics on what these ideas were all based doesn't use "dimension" in the colloquial sense meaning "universe" (or anything similar), which is the impression I get from how it's used on the page: "fifth dimension" there seems to refer to some kind of place.
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17:23.53WormydroidAt leat someone agrees with the Cephalodians
17:24.04WormydroidE.G cosmospawn
17:24.20Wormydroidkeep in mind it's interpretation
17:24.52Wormydroidhowever I love that the fiction is remembered
17:25.02TechnobliteratorMade a few more edits to that page and to Chronoscopic
17:25.03Wormydroidthank you Xho, I feel happt
17:25.12Technobliteratorshould they be ok?
17:25.27WormydroidBut then I am.on happy juice
17:27.52WormydroidTest
17:29.06GhelaeSeems okay, although "three-dimensional space" or "four-dimensional spacetime" would be a better wording than "the third dimesions". I'll have to actually look at where Wormy got his five-dimensional ideas from to see how everything else fits into it.
17:29.56WormydroidI got my ifeas from a crank sadly
17:30.32WormydroidLook up 10th Dimension
17:31.22GhelaeOh, that's all right. I can figure out how to rework it without worrying about misrepresenting the real ideas then.
17:31.43GhelaeAlso, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Locations/Omniverse is... for a start, so old that I don't really remember it.
17:31.47WormydroidActually, whole his idead wrre unsicientific, he admitted it and tslked anout scientific idead
17:33.00WormydroidWhole should be whete
17:33.01WormydroidWhere
17:33.20WormydroidIdeas equsls ideas
17:33.27WormydroidIdead
17:33.33WormydroidI gice yp
17:33.49GhelaeThat's probably for the best. :D
17:34.23WormydroidLol
17:36.25Technobliteratoryou have permission to do all the rewording necessary
17:36.27Technobliterator:o
17:36.29GhelaeThe Essence page also needs another bit more work. It still mentions Umbrux, let alone Kamik'Shi. The description of how Essence works doesn't seem to be as bad as I imagine it despite the implausibility of planckscale biophotons.
17:36.43TechnobliteratorI agree
17:36.44WormydroidI Do I?
17:36.51TechnobliteratorI think Essence and Omniverse should
17:36.59TechnobliteratorIf not be deleted :  |
17:37.26GhelaeI'm thinking of bringing my "logic gate field" idea into the fictionverse as a description of Essence, rather than trying to "explain" it with hyperspace technobabble.
17:37.40GhelaeHow to fit Chronoscopic and Time into that, I'm not sure.
17:38.34Wormydroidkill omniverseshit
17:38.48TechnobliteratorWell, it's meant to be theoretical
17:38.55TechnobliteratorI don't see what's wrong with the hyperspace technobabble stuff
17:39.42GhelaeHyperspace technobabble will need to remain, because it's the best canon explanation for anti-Essence weapons I know of. :P
17:41.43Technobliteratorhaha
17:42.17TechnobliteratorThough, Chronoscopic is both half-Essence and half-technobabble hyperspace stuff, so they don't have to be too similra
17:42.20Technobliteratoralso peoples
17:42.23Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Blyronism finished page :o
17:46.02GhelaeI'm thinking I might create a user subpage to do my own version of the Time page, or at least the real-world nature of time to be augmented with fiction.
17:46.17GhelaeAlso, was Wormy's last comment there a request to delete his Omniverse page?
17:46.52TechnobliteratorI believe so
17:46.54Technobliterator:o
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17:49.59GhelaeWormydroid: Was your last comment "kill omniverseshit" a statement that your Omniverse page should be deleted?
17:55.02XhoXhodocto - devils are inside the walls
17:55.24WormydroidI REALLY FONT KNOW
17:55.33WormydroidTest
17:56.00Technobliteratorlmao
17:56.06WormydroidI think it needs recastimg with mire sciebtific intero
17:56.22WormydroidMore scientifoc interpretation
17:58.35WormydroidI think wr can come up with a beyter explanation
17:58.42OluapPlayingPing me if I'm needed
17:59.24WormydroidI suppose we could delete Omniverse and replace jt
17:59.54GhelaeMaybe once the Time page is done, and when your're sober, we'll know how best to rewrite it.
18:00.14GhelaeFor now, I'll keep the page (but you or Jo can delete it if you like).
18:00.32WormydroidI'm trying really hard
18:00.59Wormydroidbut yed, I can't edit anywsy.
18:01.00WormydroidYes
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18:33.09Quark8Hello.
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19:45.14OfficerJackalQuark8: You got an F.
19:45.50Quark8Damnit.
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20:23.18Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghelæ/Time - here's a start. If you read this and don't understand anything, let me know. It's difficult enough to write an easily-readable piece of work on a topic like this on first attempt even when it isn't late in the evening.
20:25.55GhelTechnobliterator: I guess I should specifically bring it to your attention that I've started the page.
20:37.06Technobliteratoralright sure
20:48.24HachimanWell there is a pretty violent storm occurring in my area
20:54.30TechnobliteratorIt's raining like mad here as well
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21:41.55Wormy_hi
21:42.22Wormy_Well I deeactevuated Facebook
21:42.32Wormy_Stuff that shit
21:42.48Wormy_Worst the intetnet has to offer]
21:44.41TechnobliteratorI would argue Tumblr and Twitter are miles worse
21:45.00Wormy_Falloutmatvbe
21:45.12Wormy_Falloutbut I am not cloase to either
21:45.29Technobliteratorwhich Fallout are you playing?
21:45.37Wormy_Falloutand my faimily split aparet for the 10th fucking time
21:45.44Wormy_FalloutFalloy
21:45.50Wormy_FalloutFallout 3
21:46.19Wormy_FalloutIt is amazing
21:46.53Wormy_FalloutMessahie me from Steam chat if uou want
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22:15.07dromhad a goddamn fine 4-man party all the afternoon and evening today
22:16.11dromOne of the best parts was reading one of my friends' fantasy novel
22:17.13dromThe best thing about it was the humor and the elements of comedy it was included
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22:18.34dromLet me recitate one of the best lines: "... she was fierce as a wild cat, both in the streets and in the sheets."
22:19.58Hachimanhur
22:28.04XhoOluapPlaying: Man this GMod video I'm doing now
22:28.16Xho26 seconds in only
22:28.36OluapPlayingAnd?
22:29.01XhoI've been doing it for a long-ass time
22:29.12Wormy_FalloutI apolose for all my behaviour and misery
22:29.15Xho6 hours by the looks of it
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22:50.42dromXho: Irc, it took Kitty0706 more than 3-4 months to finish an average long-length GMOD video
22:50.46dromIIRC*
22:52.43XhoWouldn't surprise me
22:52.47XhoHe didn't have the tools we have now
22:56.30dromIn my experience, it hasn't been much of a change from the old times. With the exception of the keyframe tool and constantly rebranded tools of latter tool with minor changes that they claim to be "major changes".
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23:03.56Wormy_hi
23:04.12Wormy_I am feeling better now
23:05.35XhoOluapPlaying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ_1sbxT6y4 has dis
23:06.18OluapPlayingSentinel - kik
23:09.23Wormy_Xho   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwmYAdgU18  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-kp-B9XZFc
23:09.51XhoSabaton isn't my cup of tea really
23:10.43Hachimanew sabaton
23:10.44Wormy_I just like the fire abd explosaions
23:10.53HachimanOnce you have heard one Sabaton song, you have heard them all
23:11.27HachimanXho: Have you seen the hilariously bad video to Disturbed's "The Vengeful One"?
23:11.43Wormy_true
23:12.36XhoHachiman: No
23:12.47HachimanIt's awful
23:13.05Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW-IPrzM1g The song is pretty shit as well but then that is Disturbed for you
23:13.30HachimanYou can only really like bands like Sabaton or Disturbed if you appreciate repetitive vocal patterns
23:14.05XhoYou used to like Disturbed
23:14.15Xhoman u got weird patterns
23:14.25HachimanAnd then I grew up
23:15.11Wormy_I'm just at the stage in life when everything's good after the pub
23:17.12Wormy_Also
23:17.29Wormy_How did I not notice AD is named afte a Sabaton song?
23:17.44Hachimanhur
23:18.15XhoBecause
23:18.17XhoMeshuggah
23:19.10Wormy_Ohgod now "Galaxy Aflame" is stuck in my head
23:19.54HachimanWormy_: Which song?
23:20.02Wormy_This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N0D3HBqRqU
23:20.20HachimanI remember this
23:20.28HachimanAnnoyingly catchy hur
23:20.41Wormy_Badly sung, but an earworm
23:21.49Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11755634_895520760525982_1640926429029860960_n.jpg?oh=1260e99a7910c83b4c0ab037396360ad&oe=56514FF4 Enough said
23:22.24Hachimanhur
23:22.33Wormy_I actualled joined a W\rhammer 40K group at uniy, ony went
23:22.43Wormy_Only went once hur
23:23.57Wormy_Xho:  The only defining feature from Series one
23:24.10XhoDrogo will always be a badass
23:24.19Hachiman>only defining feature
23:24.30HachimanDid Ned Stark's beheading mean nothing to you
23:24.48Wormy_Don't spoil, I'm not at the end yet
23:25.03Wormy_But don't worry, I have no ideas who Ned is
23:25.28HachimanTHEN DON'T SAY SOMETHING IS THE ONLY DEFINING FEATURE WHEN YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE WHOLE THING FUCKING JESUS
23:25.36HachimanThat is how shows get spoiled
23:25.41Wormy_Since I'm like nearly at the end!
23:25.48XhoNed Stark
23:25.50Wormy_I enjoy GoT
23:25.50Xhohao u not kno
23:26.01Wormy_But it ain't LoR
23:26.21Wormy_LoTR
23:26.56HachimanWell GoT is comparatively more low fantasy and morally neutral than LotR
23:29.16Wormy_It reminds me of a mixture of the series about Rome and Vikings
23:29.50Wormy_I'm not hatining on in it really, or I wouldn't watch.  I watch Eastenders and Sci Fi channel for gods sake
23:34.25OluapPlayingXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhs3JsRI4-E
23:35.24XhoOluapPlaying: That ending
23:35.26XhoIt broketh me
23:35.49OluapPlaying"fuk dis pardner"
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23:41.41AdmiralPandahi all
23:41.42HachimanHai
23:47.36DrodoEmpiretest
23:49.22HachimanXho: I am fairly convinced that Knights of Cydonia is my favourite Muse song and music video hur
23:49.42XhoIt's a good video
23:49.47XhoAs for song...well yeah it's a good song
23:49.51XhoNot my favourite Muse song
23:50.10Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wcumaYVdsY My favourite Muse song is probably this one
23:50.55HachimanWhenever he says "track" I keep imagining hearing him say "Shrek"
23:51.17XhoYeah I think Matt Bellamy has the Jonathan Ross impediment
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