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00:33.04 | Wormy_ | I hear an owl |
00:35.49 | DrodoEmpire | I don't. It may have something to do with being an ocean away from you and therefore also the owl you're hearing. |
00:37.43 | Wormy_ | Don't be silly, why are you trying to hear one over an ocean? |
00:40.56 | DrodoEmpire | shrugs |
00:41.06 | OluapPlayer | coo |
00:41.31 | Wormy_ | heard you were talkin' shit http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/09/article-2358817-1ABA6FCF000005DC-511_634x485.jpg |
00:49.22 | DrodoEmpire | 3: |
00:50.05 | Wormy_ | real shiz https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1030/4723409597_ab8caa4d93_z.jpg |
01:44.46 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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09:05.54 | Wormy_ | hio |
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09:36.39 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
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09:58.54 | Jepardi | Hi |
10:02.29 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
10:02.54 | Tek0516 | Hello |
10:19.42 | AdmiralPanda | got to love arseholes on youtube -.- |
10:20.14 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
10:21.12 | AdmiralPanda | was watching a demonstration of forging techniques, and a guy heated a length of wire by hammering it. Guy asked in the comments how that works because he thought it would be impossible, so I butcher the result I get from a 1 minute google search by way of an answer |
10:21.32 | AdmiralPanda | turns out he studies physics professionally and therefore feels the need to talk down to me, when he gave no prior indication of that at all |
10:22.13 | Tek0516 | -.- |
10:23.59 | AdmiralPanda | personally I don't know what kind of answer he expects a blacksmith to provide when, according to him, he already understands the physics principles involved and according to his knowledge it should be impossible. |
10:24.46 | AdmiralPanda | I mean, he literally just watched it happen in a video, so clearly it's not just possible but it's a regular occurrence (it's a technique blacksmiths once used to light their forges without needing a flint and striker) |
10:26.04 | Wormy_ | What you have there is someone who is not taking seriously what is being observed. |
10:26.17 | AdmiralPanda | No, what we have there is an arsehole. |
10:27.03 | AdmiralPanda | ruined the whole thing really, the video was a breakdown of traditional Japanese swordsmithing techniques which I found quite enlightening |
10:27.53 | Wormy_ | I'm interested in this phenomenon, what was the result you found? I think I've seen it watching forges, when you hit red hot metal and it gets brighter |
10:28.25 | AdmiralPanda | to give the horribly butchered answer I gave him, some of the kinetic energy imparted by the hammer blow gets converted into waste heat in the metal |
10:29.09 | AdmiralPanda | I don't know the specifics, and post that incident I really can't be bothered figuring out how it happens |
10:30.22 | AdmiralPanda | I already knew it could be done mind you, it was just cool to see it actually happen |
10:30.59 | Wormy_ | It sounds reasonable, in hot metal, the atoms are moving about more anyway requiring less energy to generate internal friction. |
10:31.32 | AdmiralPanda | he started with cold metal |
10:32.03 | AdmiralPanda | as in he literally pulled a piece of wire out of a drawer and started hammering it |
10:32.06 | Wormy_ | Hm, that is very counter-intuitive. |
10:32.48 | AdmiralPanda | that's the whole point, as I said above it was how the smiths started their forges |
10:32.58 | AdmiralPanda | starting cold is the point, I mean |
10:33.27 | AdmiralPanda | hammer the metal until it glows, and use that to light the kindling |
10:44.07 | AdmiralPanda | on the subject of interesting things in the video, it made me realise just how pathetic Japan's natural iron ore is :P |
10:44.58 | AdmiralPanda | it really occurred to me just how much of the preparation goes into making the metal up to the same standard as crucible or foundry steel |
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10:46.30 | Liquid_Ink | Murray! |
10:46.38 | AdmiralPanda | the best way of smelting iron sands results in very irregular bloom (the post-smelting mixture of metal and slag), which you have to divide into high and low carbon steels, then the whole tile stacking and folding process is intended to normalise the carbon content and remove impurities |
10:48.18 | AdmiralPanda | the soft metal core and differential tempering techniques are neat, and quite an innovative way of achieving the desired result |
10:48.57 | Wormy_ | yeah |
10:50.06 | AdmiralPanda | though somewhat less impressive when you consider that a similar result is achieved by the fuller in western blades, it's quite clever |
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10:51.35 | Wormy_ | New Horizons is less than an hour away from closest approach http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/ |
10:56.32 | AdmiralPanda | on another subject it's quite interesting how one of the most noticeable results of improved materials is increased sword length |
11:04.10 | TekDroid | So there's an 80-90% chance of rain, a "special weather warning" from a government ministry and my boss still wants us to work outside. O.o |
11:07.48 | AdmiralPanda | heh |
11:12.55 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Pluto_now.jpg |
11:21.28 | Wormy_ | Getting a feel for it |
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11:25.41 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
11:25.44 | Monet | Hello |
11:28.24 | Wormy_ | Monet, Liquid_Ink: Well that's gorgeous http://mic.com/articles/122220/nasa-releases-first-photos-of-plutos-surface |
11:28.51 | Liquid_Ink | WEEEEE |
11:33.02 | Wormy_ | It is now inside Charon's orbit |
11:34.00 | Liquid_Ink | Ooh, do we get pretty pictures of Charon? |
11:34.13 | Liquid_Ink | And the other four moons? |
11:37.29 | Wormy_ | Yes, we will |
11:38.20 | Wormy_ | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public |
11:38.24 | Wormy_ | watch it live |
11:38.35 | Wormy_ | Well not the probe, but NASA's feed |
11:40.06 | Monet | Its going to pass but we won't be able t osee anything until tonight due ot lag. |
11:41.32 | Wormy_ | They are explaining right now that the antenna is also pointed away from Earth, to get full coverage of Pluto |
11:42.07 | Wormy_ | And all the data will take 16 months to be transmitted |
11:42.39 | Monet | just transmitted or transmitted and studied? |
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11:47.25 | Wormy_ | Just for all of it to be transmitted |
11:47.44 | Wormy_ | The value will be decades of study |
11:51.29 | Wormy_ | They are all chanting USA! USA! USA! lol |
11:51.45 | Wormy_ | Tribalism in the era of space exploration! |
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12:04.33 | Wormy_ | Lets just hope the probe won't glitch or collide with something before it begins transmission. |
12:05.58 | Liquid_Ink | slaps Wormy for jinxing it. |
12:08.16 | Wormy_ | According to Telegraph "'It's about America,' says Nasa TV presenters Dwayne Brown, completely missing the point." |
12:08.56 | Liquid_Ink | What? |
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12:13.59 | Wormy_ | That's what he said |
12:14.12 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
12:25.09 | Monet | I like how much of a landmark this whole thing feels |
12:25.18 | Monet | Its a pleasing break |
12:25.57 | Wormy_ | Progress is painfully slow, but it is a real thing. |
12:27.04 | Monet | Research is not as fast as CSI makes it look. |
12:27.39 | AdmiralPanda | Not until a random group of gamers solves the structure of a protein in two weeks when scientists had been working on it for a decade :P |
12:28.38 | Liquid_Ink | Then track the mysterious signals to their microwave. |
12:31.13 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/hS5U9EI.png |
12:32.01 | Monet | Wormy_: Oh that is nasty |
12:32.44 | Wormy_ | From http://imgur.com/gallery/5SLlDLS |
12:34.40 | Monet | "filet minion" that is both clever and mean lol |
12:37.38 | Monet | "sha-ron" |
12:37.56 | Monet | Because of Greek leterring shouldn't the ferryman's name be "kah-ron"? |
12:39.41 | AdmiralPanda | I know the Romans had no soft c sound, did the Greeks? |
12:40.16 | Wormy_ | I've always said "cha-ron", as in "checkers" |
12:42.04 | Monet | Well the greek letter X (chi) was pronounced as "kee" (or kaim could depend on the accent) |
12:42.17 | Monet | or "kai"* |
12:42.59 | Monet | Their accents make it sound like the moon is called Sharon |
12:43.29 | AdmiralPanda | ok properly it should sound almost like keran |
12:44.42 | AdmiralPanda | kÉÉrÉn, the reverse e is as pronounced in fell, the upside down e followed by r is as pronounced in perceive, and the upside down a is as pronounced in pod |
12:44.46 | Technobliterator | Wow, Konami |
12:44.48 | AdmiralPanda | so that would be keron |
12:44.52 | Technobliterator | officially the most childish publisher |
12:45.10 | Monet | What did they do now? |
12:45.14 | AdmiralPanda | the alternative is the same but instead of the upside down a there's another upside down e, which is pronounced like a |
12:45.22 | AdmiralPanda | so either keron or keran |
12:46.00 | Technobliterator | updated MGSV cover art |
12:46.08 | Technobliterator | Solely to remove "A Hideo Kojima game" from the title |
12:46.21 | AdmiralPanda | that's old news |
12:46.29 | AdmiralPanda | and they undid it |
12:46.36 | OluapPlayer | Kojima Productions doesn't exist as an entity anymore, so I heard |
12:46.43 | AdmiralPanda | ^ |
12:46.44 | OluapPlayer | Apparently confirmed by Snake's japanese VA |
12:47.56 | AdmiralPanda | I'm surprised it took you this long to hear about it Techno, given how much you're a fan of the series |
12:48.17 | Technobliterator | I really am not too excited for MGSV at all |
12:48.27 | Technobliterator | I am unsure if I'm even going to buy it |
12:48.31 | Technobliterator | thus, I haven't kept up with it |
12:49.13 | Monet | People are talking about the bad side of nuclear power yet the New Horizons probe might not be possible without radioisotope power generation. |
12:50.12 | AdmiralPanda | on an unrelated note, Fordanta is properly pronounced fÉrdÉËntÉË |
12:50.46 | AdmiralPanda | (now that I've found an actual IPA character guide online the copy pasting shall begin) |
12:51.31 | Monet | I really should lern how ti interpret IPA characters |
12:51.51 | Technobliterator | They're never going to beat MGS3, regardless of how hard they try, and I do not like the direction MGSV's story is going in |
12:51.59 | OluapPlayer | Oh i didn't know there was a clear picture of Pluto yet |
12:52.01 | Technobliterator | the gameplay is intriguing but that's it |
12:52.02 | AdmiralPanda | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English |
12:52.24 | OluapPlayer | It looks like it has a heart in it |
12:52.34 | OluapPlayer | The cuddly dwarf planet |
12:53.07 | Monet | Technobliterator: Does it need ot though? |
12:53.11 | Monet | need to* |
12:53.25 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/sci/1436877651781.png at the bottom definitely looks like a <3 |
12:53.27 | Technobliterator | For me, yes |
12:53.55 | Technobliterator | But then again, I don't know if any game can ever beat MGS3 ever, since that was the best game of all time ever made omg u gais |
12:54.13 | OluapPlayer | shup |
12:54.21 | Monet | It's difficult to surpass a magnum opus |
12:54.48 | AdmiralPanda | hÉl'brÉ'k keɪ'soÊ'vÉË |
12:55.53 | Monet | I was going to say that lightning might not strike twice for the Metal Gear series but then I rememebred its actually rather easy to make lightining strike one place multiple times. |
12:55.56 | AdmiralPanda | there won't be a better game for you because you're biased, and there's no game that's actually comparable on any basis except a one for one MGS3 remake |
12:57.15 | Monet | Have to agree with Panda here. Bias 'aint a good thing to approach a creative work with. |
12:57.45 | Technobliterator | I don't see how any game can surpass MGS3 |
12:58.20 | AdmiralPanda | because you're biased |
12:58.22 | Monet | From what I've heard, one of the things that made MGS3 such a solid hit was that Hideo Kojima put his heart and soul int oit due to a BIG love of Bond films. |
12:58.26 | OluapPlayer | We all have our all-time favorites |
12:58.42 | OluapPlayer | No game can beat Super Mario World for me but I can respect others' opinions |
12:58.50 | AdmiralPanda | Dark Souls here |
12:59.50 | AdmiralPanda | the developers' promise to the player and their commitment to that promise really touched me, that promise being that if something is in the world you can affect it, with no exceptions |
13:00.16 | OluapPlayer | Dark Souls would be a good contender were it not for its poopy second half |
13:00.19 | Monet | I have a high opinion of Cities Skylines, but one thing I think SC4 does better is the music |
13:00.50 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: Do you mean the sequel that shouldn't really exist, or the post-Anor Londo part of the original? |
13:01.02 | OluapPlayer | Post-Anor Londo |
13:01.10 | OluapPlayer | And Dark Souls 2 was a good game shup |
13:01.14 | AdmiralPanda | fair enough, personally I disagree but to each their own |
13:01.15 | Technobliterator | I don't think it can be put down solely to bias, though |
13:01.29 | Monet | I'm not sure which game I adore the best. |
13:01.44 | Technobliterator | Given the setting of MGS3, and the story they told among several decisions, I do not see a way for them to ever tell a better story |
13:01.57 | Technobliterator | That is when you remember what Big Boss is currently doing |
13:02.35 | AdmiralPanda | It absolutely was a good game, after all it was more Dark Souls, but does that really justify its existence when we already have Dark Souls? |
13:02.38 | Monet | I'll always see MGS3 as a loving tribute to James Bond. |
13:02.52 | OluapPlayer | Dosh |
13:03.15 | AdmiralPanda | you know what I'm talking about you twat |
13:03.20 | OluapPlayer | hur |
13:03.34 | AdmiralPanda | squirts Oluap with a water gun |
13:03.41 | Technobliterator | Also, I think a remake of MGS3 as a one-for-one remake would suck, there are more things they could change : | |
13:03.42 | OluapPlayer | eeee |
13:03.42 | Monet | Hmm, I do really like GTA V |
13:03.47 | OluapPlayer | Well I don't know, I liked Dark Souls so more Dark Souls is good as far as I'm aware |
13:03.56 | OluapPlayer | I found Dark Souls 3's trailer the best part of this year's E3 |
13:03.59 | AdmiralPanda | oh I agree, just the above point |
13:04.14 | AdmiralPanda | ultimately if I want more dark souls, I go back and play more Dark Souls |
13:04.41 | Monet | For me, Civ V was the highpoint of the Civ series but I miss some of the old features, like palace view. |
13:05.21 | Monet | In Civ II I loved how as your society advanced and developed, so did your throne room |
13:05.27 | AdmiralPanda | honestly, rather than a new Dark Souls I'd rather they take the concept they perfected in Dark Souls and take it in a new direction, like what they did with bloodborne, just more true to the souls fashion |
13:06.19 | AdmiralPanda | It's a very unique perspective they have, the way they built the game is very different to how most developers these days operate |
13:06.23 | OluapPlayer | Did you ever get to play 2's DLC? |
13:06.30 | AdmiralPanda | I did |
13:07.10 | OluapPlayer | It had some of the best parts of the game there |
13:07.13 | OluapPlayer | And some of the worse |
13:07.16 | AdmiralPanda | agreed |
13:07.17 | OluapPlayer | Like horse-dong valley |
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13:07.35 | krow | Hey |
13:07.35 | OluapPlayer | I don't think I've ever been that angry at a videogame before |
13:08.15 | AdmiralPanda | what I would like to see is a Souls take on -punk, preferably cyberpunk |
13:08.37 | OluapPlayer | But I think Fume Knight and Sir Alonne are my favorite bosses in the two games |
13:08.59 | OluapPlayer | Fume in specific was the boss in 2 that forced me to ditch my shield and learn to roll through all of his attacks |
13:09.19 | OluapPlayer | Just like Artorias in 1 |
13:10.04 | AdmiralPanda | oh Artorias, much brickwall was had that day |
13:10.14 | Monet | Wormy_: DAT MUSIC ON THE NASA CHANNEL! |
13:10.16 | Monet | asdaiofbhagfapog |
13:10.30 | OluapPlayer | Conveniently Raime is Artorias' equivalent in 2 |
13:10.55 | Wormy_ | Wasa it the Enterprise theme? |
13:10.57 | krow | how the quality of the new horzion's pictures of pluto? |
13:11.03 | krow | how is the* |
13:11.13 | Monet | Wormy_: Yes |
13:11.26 | Wormy_ | Hah they played that earlier |
13:13.20 | Monet | I had a thought |
13:13.43 | Monet | On the SE model of Aldra there's a plnet with an orbit period of I thikn it was 20 millennia |
13:13.53 | Wormy_ | Wow |
13:13.54 | Monet | Sounds like potential ong count calender material to me |
13:14.01 | Monet | long* |
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13:15.59 | Monet | Wormy_: I showed you before but this is the view from it http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/23/Greetings_from_Shivolus.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150608130810 |
13:16.55 | Wormy_ | Is that a binary system? |
13:17.09 | Monet | That's the new ALdra |
13:17.23 | Monet | Draconsi now come from a binary system |
13:17.30 | Monet | Draconis* |
13:18.08 | krow | Dogerios: I was looking for examples of multi-limbed sporewiki creations, so I happen to stumble across your "stuff" |
13:18.11 | krow | "Rhana - GODDAMMIT I DON'T REMEMBER" |
13:18.44 | Monet | From what I can tell using Space Engine, they have a day sun and a "night sun", but the night sun is too distant to illuminate thep lanet much. |
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13:20.04 | Wormy_ | More like a very bright star |
13:20.15 | Monet | Yeah. |
13:20.50 | krow | Hot damn, this creature's a beaut. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1f/StalkieV3.png/revision/latest?cb=20111228183832 |
13:22.03 | Monet | Wormy_: Messier 110 is visile by the naked eye, but its shape and appearance it migh be mistaken by early Draocnis as a third night star. |
13:22.09 | Monet | night sun* |
13:22.18 | Dogerios | OluapPlayer: Did you receive my message? |
13:22.24 | OluapPlayer | I didn't |
13:22.28 | Wormy_ | Could well be |
13:22.48 | Dogerios | OluapPlayer: Remember what I said yesterday? |
13:23.01 | Dogerios | Turns out it is a false alert |
13:23.08 | OluapPlayer | Oh that |
13:23.12 | OluapPlayer | Good |
13:23.30 | Monet | Since Aldra-B (Alcanti orbits around Aldra A) has its own planets I wonder what that would do to early cosmilogy. |
13:23.39 | Monet | eraly Draconid astronomy, sorry. |
13:24.58 | Dogerios | There is no need to rush then I presume |
13:25.11 | Wormy_ | I found a jewel of a world in Andromeda |
13:25.21 | OluapPlayer | We should still try and get things done though hur |
13:25.58 | Monet | Dogerios: So you're not going on a second holiday days after returning to St. Petersberg? |
13:26.07 | Dogerios | Ya |
13:31.40 | krow | Hey where did the Tyraz Breek page go? |
13:32.01 | Monet | got renamed to "Tyraz" I tihnk |
13:32.10 | OluapPlayer | Yes, it's just Captain:Tyraz now |
13:33.14 | Wormy_ | Monet: Save these coordinates RS 1186 1355 7 1031026 380 A4 |
13:33.24 | krow | That explains all the red links I'm seeing |
13:34.18 | Wormy_ | It doesn't really, put it has surface structures I liken to ancient relics |
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13:44.21 | AdmiralPanda | heh the year is back in your username |
13:44.27 | AdmiralPanda | soon enough you're gonna go full circle |
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13:51.17 | krow | AdmiralPanda: Some stuff never change |
13:52.12 | AdmiralPanda | ? |
13:54.09 | AdmiralPanda | my favourite part of watching professional LoL games: the TSM chant is so strong the crowd starts up even when TSM isn't playing XD |
13:56.39 | Monet | Hello |
13:57.35 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Atlantis.fr.png |
13:57.36 | krow | Charles_Murray: Could you tell me about how is my invasion of Romania doing? |
13:57.47 | Charles_Murray | logo for another French news organization ^.^ |
13:58.07 | Charles_Murray | Let me look |
13:59.07 | Charles_Murray | You're more than fine, congrats! |
13:59.16 | krow | Its 13-unit army has been pestering me around for a while so I could need someone to look into it, since I ordered two of my strongest armies to steamroll it. |
13:59.36 | krow | And that since 7pm in the morning, it's 4am here now. |
14:00.31 | krow | So basically no rebellion so far? |
14:00.44 | Monet | Charles_Murray: Nice use of the french flag. |
14:01.03 | krow | I second Monet |
14:01.05 | Monet | I take it Atlantis is mostly an online news firm? |
14:01.55 | Charles_Murray | Mhm, digital news. They're one of the few organizations actually allowed to embed with French troops. |
14:02.31 | Monet | Pretty lucky then |
14:05.06 | krow | Time to go home |
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14:05.50 | LuxorPL | We've go the Pluto! |
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14:06.32 | LuxorPL | Have you seen it's images? |
14:10.49 | LuxorPL | Whatever. |
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14:18.01 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#Zr.27Ahgloth.27s_Nightmare blargh |
14:18.04 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#Sarec.27s_Nightmare blargh |
14:18.06 | OluapPlayer | Nightmares galore |
14:24.35 | Monet | Zr'Ahgloth: So stupid that he knows when he's in a dream. |
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14:27.05 | Monet | THat is...actualyl quite brilliant |
14:29.55 | Monet | "Under his statue was an engraving which said: "our noo boss, da best one afta da one who failed everyfin eva"" white a commemoration that |
14:30.07 | OluapPlayer | hur |
14:31.11 | Monet | "In commemoraation of the new president, he's way better than the last one isn't he everyone?" |
14:34.31 | OluapPlayer | Loron politics |
14:42.39 | Wormy_ | I might have seen the Devil |
14:42.59 | Wormy_ | This guy of course https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didi_Senft |
14:43.24 | Wormy_ | http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/tdf2010_07_26/t20_24389853.jpg |
14:43.48 | Wormy_ | Unfortunately he said he wouldn't attend le Tour this year but catched a devil in the coirner of my eye |
14:43.58 | Wormy_ | *but I catched |
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15:00.10 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:04.12 | Technobliterator | For those wondering, the Loron dream was partly inspired by the new Batman game |
15:04.14 | Technobliterator | hi ghel |
15:05.25 | Monet | I have yet to play Arkham Knight |
15:06.33 | Wormy_ | hi |
15:06.37 | Technobliterator | It's very good |
15:06.49 | Technobliterator | Best game of this console generation at the moment by miles |
15:13.20 | OluapPlayer | I hear a lot of flak about it |
15:13.34 | OluapPlayer | Mostly about the game revolving around the Batmobile more than Batman himself and the PC port being shit |
15:14.47 | Monet | Best to take gamer forums with a pinch of salt these days. |
15:15.03 | Technobliterator | The latter is true. The former I would argue is not |
15:15.13 | Technobliterator | I like the Batmobile a lot |
15:15.37 | Monet | So wait |
15:16.06 | Monet | People were so hyped about how we could finally drive the Batomobile...are people complaining about less Batman? |
15:18.59 | OluapPlayer | Yes. The complaints I've seen are that there is more Batmobile than Batman |
15:19.52 | Monet | GUess some people simply can't be pleased. |
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15:31.44 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
15:31.49 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/07/14/pluto-pic-delay-as-new-horizon-craft-unsure-what-instagram-filter-to-use/ |
15:33.26 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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15:44.47 | dino82_ | hellowz all! |
15:45.45 | Technobliterator | hi dino |
15:46.20 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:47.11 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
15:48.55 | dino82_ | :D |
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16:02.03 | Hachiman | Hai |
16:03.32 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:03.32 | Hachiman | Perhaps the most horrifying scenario that can happen to a person is giving them the opportunity to observe all possible routes that their life and the lives of the people they know could have taken and discovering that the life they are observing their possibilities from is the worst result that could have happened |
16:04.34 | Monet | Isn't that what Arnold Rimmer discovered about himself? |
16:05.05 | Hachiman | I am unsure, I never think I watched that episode of Red Dwarf |
16:05.58 | Ghelae | Really, if their lives are already as bad as they could possibly have been, you're unlikely to make them feel much worse by showing them how much better things could have been in any other circumstance. |
16:06.18 | Ghelae | I'm sure it's possible for anybody's life to take a route where they're homeless, broke, all of their loved ones have been raped and murdered, etc. |
16:06.32 | Ghelae | That's horrifying enough on its own. |
16:06.59 | Monet | Hachiman: We discover though Ace RImmer that in all the known multiverse, there is no RImmer as spineless and insuffferable as Prime Rimmer. |
16:07.58 | Monet | ALso that sounds like how the whashisname Sim jusged people |
16:09.01 | Monet | He travelled though time erasing the most worthless instances of a perticular person and replacing them with the results of one of the sper mthat didn't make it first. |
16:09.56 | Hachiman | Ghelae: Alright, well let us say that we disclude circumstances that could otherwise not be prevented such as rape and murder and such and say that all the alternate universes that are being viewed are influenced more by the choices you made rather than random circumstance |
16:10.36 | OluapPlayer | What is this hyperintellectual nonsense |
16:10.39 | OluapPlayer | ur confusin me |
16:10.59 | Ghelae | Does falling into vicious cycles of addition such as, say, gambling, alcohol, drugs, etc. count as being "influened more by the choices you made rather than random circumstance"? |
16:11.04 | Ghelae | addiction* |
16:11.09 | Hachiman | I would say so |
16:13.08 | Hachiman | A more enlightening argument I suppose would be for a person who has led an otherwise questionable quality of life to observe the amount of possible alternate universes that stem from choice and discover that the universe they reside in is not the worst case |
16:14.20 | Ghelae | Showing somebody who's broke and extremely unhealthy from years of drug use how their life choices have been the worst ones they could possibly have might be horrifying enough to convice them to change... some of them, at least. |
16:16.15 | Wormy_ | Well this was interesting http://io9.com/what-happens-when-you-get-the-wrong-blood-type-1696686395 |
16:19.32 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: lol |
16:22.19 | Hachiman | Also, somewhat off-topic |
16:22.35 | Hachiman | The first clear picture of Pluto was taken today by the New Horizons probe |
16:22.45 | Hachiman | Pluto has a giant heart on it hur |
16:22.56 | Monet | We know. But its okay. |
16:23.03 | OluapPlayer | I mentioned it in public chat but got ignored |
16:23.13 | OluapPlayer | No one has any affection for Pluto here |
16:23.24 | Monet | Wormy beat you two to it. |
16:23.45 | OluapPlayer | fuk u wiggly |
16:24.02 | Hachiman | I wonder what it would be like to stand on Pluto |
16:24.07 | Wormy_ | Oluap: Me, Liquid Ink and Monet had been on it for ages |
16:24.16 | OluapPlayer | Like standing on rocks |
16:24.25 | OluapPlayer | Except you'd freeze to death so fast you wouldn't feel anything |
16:24.44 | Wormy_ | Hachiman, Monet: Also according to my starmap app, Pluto is right below out feet in the Southern Hemisphere |
16:24.59 | Wormy_ | So we are metaphorically standing on it |
16:25.08 | Hachiman | More like standing over it hur |
16:25.20 | Wormy_ | Don't ruin it! |
16:25.24 | OluapPlayer | Pluto is literally <3 |
16:26.03 | Wormy_ | Speaking of apps, there's a NASA app which tells you the time of day (evening) to take a photograph, where the light corresponds to Pluto light |
16:27.58 | Wormy_ | I made this as well toi show the distance at the probe;s closest approach http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Pluto_now.jpg |
16:28.23 | Wormy_ | If you was on it Pluto would be about that size |
16:28.53 | Wormy_ | Give or take corrections on diameter |
16:29.42 | Hachiman | So I am guessing New Horizons will follow Voyager into extrasolar space? |
16:30.17 | Wormy_ | New Horizons may go on to explore other nearby objects in the Kuiper Belt, if it can reach any. |
16:30.55 | Hachiman | I do kind of wonder how Voyager is doing out there |
16:30.57 | OluapPlayer | We got to see Ceres and Pluto |
16:31.01 | OluapPlayer | Makemake mission when |
16:31.07 | Hachiman | Aye |
16:31.18 | Wormy_ | Really, think of Pluto as a stepping stone into the true wilderness of the Solar System, the Kuiper Belt, the Oort Cloud (which won't be reached for thousands of years) |
16:32.02 | OluapPlayer | Still it's really cool to finally learn how Pluto looks like |
16:32.02 | Monet | Voyager has crossed the barrier into interstellar space. |
16:32.14 | OluapPlayer | Admittedly it looks nothing like I imagined |
16:32.19 | OluapPlayer | I always expected it to be blue |
16:32.26 | Hachiman | I always imagined Pluto as being blue |
16:32.36 | OluapPlayer | stop copyin me pls |
16:32.41 | Hachiman | fug |
16:32.59 | Wormy_ | The Voyager probes are still sending back data, like what Monet said, it seems to be in interstellar conditions (it's still well within the solar system however) |
16:33.02 | Monet | The super-duper-low-res pictures always showed it ot be a whitish to light brown though. |
16:33.10 | Technobliterator | meh pluto's not even a planet |
16:33.14 | Technobliterator | so who cares about pluto |
16:33.21 | OluapPlayer | Consider suicide |
16:33.24 | Hachiman | Fuck off |
16:33.29 | Monet | Dunt u mock Pluto |
16:33.30 | Wormy_ | I thought Pluto would be bluish-purple |
16:33.45 | OluapPlayer | he is a good dog |
16:33.50 | Wormy_ | Pluto loves you. He is your Lord and Saviour! |
16:34.01 | OluapPlayer | He loves us so much he has a heart carved on his surface |
16:34.10 | Hachiman | Pluto literally sends you <3 and you reject it |
16:34.15 | Wormy_ | A pinkish heart |
16:34.18 | Monet | I wonder if photovoltaic cells still work effectively in the interstellar medium. |
16:35.19 | OluapPlayer | Voyager 1 will remain for 10 more years |
16:35.26 | OluapPlayer | remain active that is |
16:35.29 | Wormy_ | Good |
16:35.43 | Wormy_ | There are also the Pioneer probes |
16:35.45 | OluapPlayer | "Voyager 1's mission is expected to continue until around 2025, when its radioisotope thermoelectric generators will no longer supply enough electric power to operate any of its scientific instruments." |
16:35.54 | Wormy_ | But they stopped working |
16:36.14 | Monet | R.I.P Pioneer 1 and 2 |
16:36.35 | Hachiman | Imagine if we sent out probes and craft empowered by nuclear or hydrogen energy |
16:36.59 | OluapPlayer | SPACE NUKES |
16:37.00 | Wormy_ | I find it romantic that the Voyager and Pioneer probes will likely journey the cosmos for a trillion years before they fall apart |
16:37.28 | Wormy_ | Unless future rich humans collect them for museum pieces |
16:37.36 | Monet | Hachiman: radioisotope thermoelectric generator are used because of their comparatively extreme longevity. |
16:37.56 | Hachiman | If I recall something that Ghelae once said, one of the reasons why it takes our current craft such long expanses of time to travel across space is due to the resources we use for them |
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16:38.12 | Hachiman | If we switched to nuclear / hydrogen energy, we could allow for faster travel |
16:38.18 | Monet | ALso technically radioisotope generators *are* nuclear generators. |
16:38.22 | OluapPlayer | I talked about space nukes in the IRC once so yes, we've had this discussion before |
16:38.53 | Wormy_ | There is the possibility of Bussard Ramjets which could travel close to the speed of light |
16:39.02 | Ghelae | Chemical fuels are less energy-dense than nuclear ones, is the problem. |
16:39.06 | OluapPlayer | Using nuclear bombs to propel a spaceship we could apparently get to Alpha Centauri in a span of a generation or two |
16:39.34 | Ghelae | Radioisoptope power sources *are* nuclear in origin, but they don't get as much energy out of the nuclei as fission or fusion do. |
16:39.42 | Ghelae | radioisotope* |
16:39.57 | Monet | True |
16:39.57 | Hachiman | Generation ships appear to be our future |
16:40.06 | Monet | They're a form of passive nuclear energy |
16:40.21 | Wormy_ | Carl Sagan on fission rockets, fusion-powered ships and bussard ramjets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGE-WRqgPRE |
16:40.43 | Hachiman | Or at least, generation ships are our future if we cannot figure out the method to suspended animation |
16:40.53 | OluapPlayer | Gandhi was merely trying to send us to space the hard way |
16:41.01 | Ghelae | Although even with some kind of super-dense power source, you'd need to limit your acceleration to as much as humans can withstand (depending on how good your inertial damping systems are). |
16:41.14 | OluapPlayer | OUR SPACESHIPS ARE BACKED BY NUCLEAR WEAPONS |
16:41.56 | Wormy_ | Fast interstellar flight is possible within a generation or two, said ships if they can reach appreciable levels of the speed of light. The travellers just aren't coming home in the lifetime of people at home. |
16:42.33 | Monet | One of the main problems with a ship that goes fast is you need to expend an equal amount of energy to slow down. |
16:42.43 | OluapPlayer | FIRE NUKES IN FRONT OF IT |
16:43.05 | Hachiman | It must be difficult for future astronauts, such as interplanetary settlers, to cope with the idea of never being able to return to Earth and meet with their families again |
16:43.09 | Wormy_ | You have to turn your ship the other way to decelerate, and it does increase travel time. |
16:43.55 | Wormy_ | Its been suggested that you either send entire families, or send people with no family or chance on Earth |
16:44.10 | Ghelae | If you want to colonise another planet you're going to want to reproduce. So settlers at least will almost certainly travel with their families (at least spouses and children, if not parents and siblings). |
16:44.25 | OluapPlayer | Unrelated but I just found out about this bird http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/actual-header.png |
16:44.28 | OluapPlayer | bearded vulture |
16:44.32 | OluapPlayer | It looks so cool hur |
16:44.43 | Hachiman | Those fucking eyes |
16:44.47 | OluapPlayer | http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EH3w8O_8XRo/maxresdefault.jpg |
16:44.57 | Wormy_ | Looks like a Therapod dinosaur, though I guess it is one. |
16:45.10 | Hachiman | They are like modern raptors hur |
16:45.19 | OluapPlayer | It's like a movie villain |
16:45.42 | Wormy_ | Raptors which can catch others out of the sky and tear them to pieces |
16:45.50 | Wormy_ | in flight |
16:45.52 | OluapPlayer | http://www.praha.eu/public/7b/41/29/714054_24811_orlosupy_zoo_hlava.jpg they can look retarded though |
16:45.55 | OluapPlayer | "BWAAH" |
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16:46.17 | Ghelae | "Raptor" does refer to birds of prey. |
16:46.48 | OluapPlayer | It does look like a mean-faced velociraptor |
16:46.57 | OluapPlayer | That's probably why I took a liking for it hur |
16:47.04 | CyraBot2009 | <3 bae |
16:47.09 | OluapPlayer | hur |
16:47.35 | OluapPlayer | go write war of caprica pls |
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16:47.51 | Wormy_ | On space travel though, I'm not too bothered by interstellar travel yet. What a fantastic solar system we live in! I would live on a moon of Saturn |
16:48.36 | OluapPlayer | I hear Jupiter emits an obnoxious amount of radiation so attempting to live in any of its moons would end in space cancer |
16:48.40 | OluapPlayer | Would Saturn be any better? |
16:49.23 | Wormy_ | Not much, but part of Jupiter's strong ionosphere is supplied by Ioi |
16:49.29 | CyraBot | Saturn is my personal favourite. |
16:49.51 | Hachiman | Does this mean that the potential for life on Europa is potentially squandered by the amount of radiation produced by Jupiter? |
16:49.52 | Wormy_ | But I think that one day we might be able to shield against radiation better |
16:50.03 | OluapPlayer | I find Jupiter rather unnerving to be honest |
16:50.07 | Wormy_ | The ice should protect Europa |
16:50.23 | Hachiman | I wish we could make contact with the primitive underwater warrior-tribes of Europa |
16:50.34 | Wormy_ | I know what you mean, it's storms are menacing. |
16:50.42 | OluapPlayer | Its gigantic and formless, with ultrastrong winds and weird-coloured clouds |
16:51.09 | Hachiman | Jupiter also eats a lot of the debris that would otherwise make contact with Earth |
16:51.14 | Wormy_ | I don't, the only way into Europa is by drilling down with a nuclear heated missile, they will think we are declaring interplanetary war! |
16:51.32 | OluapPlayer | The thought of waking up in the morning and looking up to see the Great Red Spot staring back at me is terrifying |
16:52.08 | Hachiman | The Great Red Spot is almost like some kind of formless Lovecraftian horror |
16:52.16 | CyraBot | I think the sky would look amazing on one of the Jovian moons |
16:52.25 | OluapPlayer | I suppose it's a similar fear to the deep sea |
16:52.29 | Wormy_ | Of course, it could be a giant Qax |
16:52.43 | Hachiman | Or a Qax colony |
16:52.46 | OluapPlayer | Huge unknown space which is arguably difficult to give a form |
16:53.08 | OluapPlayer | Saturn would probably look beautiful though |
16:53.29 | Hachiman | I still find it difficult to really comprehend what the Qax "are" even though they are, arguably, a secondary species in the Xeelee Sequence |
16:53.33 | CyraBot | Aye |
16:54.36 | Hachiman | The Photino Birds and the Xeelee are less difficult to understand in regards to what they "are" than the Qax to me |
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16:55.05 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:55.09 | OluapPlayer | spu |
16:55.15 | Xho | u |
16:55.28 | Hachiman | Hai |
16:56.22 | Wormy_ | There is also the Saturn Hegaxon, which I find strange. |
16:56.47 | OluapPlayer | yeah that's another creepy-looking thing |
16:56.51 | Hachiman | Wormy_: If we were to drill cavities into Europa's surface, would we risk exposing whatever life that resides beneath the ice to the radiation emitted from Jupiter? |
16:57.11 | OluapPlayer | There's a vortex at its center |
16:57.49 | Wormy_ | The Qax have quite normal biolofgy in the way that they are made up of chemicals, but regulated by turbulent forces rather than membranes |
16:58.12 | Hachiman | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Rotatingsaturnhexagon.gif It hungers |
16:58.21 | Wormy_ | Hachi: No, I suspect the hole which seal itself, which is a problem for staying in contact with the probe |
16:58.30 | OluapPlayer | >yfw we destroy Europa's entire biosphere by exposing it to space cancer |
16:59.47 | Wormy_ | On Europa and Enceladus (and similar worlds) there is evidence of fissures which open and then freeze. It opens the possibility of fossil hunting near the fissures and geysers. |
16:59.50 | Ghelae | The hole made in the ice wouldn't be very large, so it wouldn't expose much of the hydrosphere to increased radiation, and then the water would work as a radiation shield so further beneath the surface it wouldn't make a difference anyway. |
17:00.32 | Hachiman | I suppose that is fair enough |
17:02.20 | OluapPlayer | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Solarsystem3DJupiter.gif this gif makes Earth look like a rabid hyperactive kid |
17:02.46 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Imagine Mercury |
17:02.53 | Monet | 1 Mercurian year = 88 days |
17:03.01 | OluapPlayer | Mercury - I CANT STOOOOOOOOOOP |
17:03.24 | Hachiman | olol |
17:03.38 | Monet | Mercury is the Solar System's equivilent ot a hyperactive Kermit the Frog. |
17:04.01 | Wormy_ | Mercury is frustrated because the Sun will devour him one day, but he cannot escape so runs in circles |
17:04.08 | OluapPlayer | hoh |
17:04.33 | OluapPlayer | Mercury - CANT CATCH ME IF IM FAST ENOUGH Sun - just u want a few billion years whippersnapper |
17:05.41 | OluapPlayer | One thing I always found curious in space was Venus' rotation |
17:05.48 | OluapPlayer | It rotates backwards and 1 Venus day is equal to 243 Earth days |
17:06.01 | Hachiman | I was about to question whether dinosaurs would have established advanced interplanetary travel by this point although I then remembered the discussion about how dinosaurs probably would not have developed complex technologies if they developed sapience at all |
17:07.29 | OluapPlayer | A Venus year is 224 Earth days so it literally has less than a day per year |
17:09.15 | Wormy_ | It is predicted there is a 1% chance of Mercury's orbit becoming unstable because of Jupiter, and either being ejected from the solar system or colliding with Venus or Earth. |
17:10.10 | OluapPlayer | Jupiter - get off my lawn shithead *fling* |
17:10.52 | Wormy_ | http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/will-mercury-hit-earth-someday/ |
17:11.07 | Wormy_ | More like Jupiter plays bowling |
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17:11.43 | LuxorPL | And... hey again. |
17:11.56 | Wormy_ | It is thought that Jupiter may have flung planets Uranus and Neptune into their present positions. He is such a bossy thing |
17:11.57 | LuxorPL | Is anyone online? |
17:12.02 | Wormy_ | Hi |
17:12.03 | LuxorPL | Oh, hey worm |
17:12.09 | LuxorPL | I noticed your pic on spore wiki |
17:12.28 | Wormy_ | We've been active most of the day. You need to give IRC more time to wait hur |
17:12.33 | Hachiman | Best we stay on Jupiter's good side then |
17:12.38 | OluapPlayer | Jupiter is the arrogant older brother |
17:12.54 | OluapPlayer | He bullies the smaller ones when daddy Sun is not looking |
17:12.58 | LuxorPL | Though in space engine these ice 'spiders' on Pluto should be removed... |
17:13.07 | Wormy_ | indeed |
17:13.11 | LuxorPL | And guys, what do you think of New Horizons program? |
17:13.17 | LuxorPL | I got pretty excited about it last month. |
17:13.29 | Wormy_ | I could probably photoshop Pluto in |
17:13.31 | Hachiman | I am in support of any space-oriented program |
17:13.53 | LuxorPL | Spazz engine is best anyway. |
17:14.00 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Did you know that planets make noise? |
17:14.05 | Wormy_ | Had a good time watching NASA live |
17:14.09 | OluapPlayer | Eh |
17:14.13 | Hachiman | They sound rather ominous |
17:14.14 | OluapPlayer | No |
17:14.20 | OluapPlayer | Elaborate |
17:14.50 | OluapPlayer | Actually no, I remember listening to Jupiter sounds before |
17:15.00 | OluapPlayer | But I never looked hard into it nor I knew other planets also emitted noises |
17:15.37 | Wormy_ | Earth produces "chirps", though its not really sound waves |
17:15.39 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwnpXll_A_E This is what Neptune sounds like |
17:15.59 | OluapPlayer | Earth - BOK BOK BOK BOK |
17:16.10 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xpR4hyPSlE Pluto sounds even more ominous |
17:16.17 | Hachiman | Certainly does not sound like <3 |
17:16.31 | OluapPlayer | What exactly creates these sounds? |
17:16.43 | OluapPlayer | Neptune sounds like ambient music you give to a cave in a horror game |
17:16.59 | Wormy_ | Electromagnetic phenomena converted to sound I think |
17:17.03 | Wormy_ | That being said sound in the form of pressure waves can move very slowly through the medium of interstellar space, and its effects can be seen |
17:17.06 | Hachiman | As far as I can tell, interaction between electromagnetic phenomena and solar winds |
17:17.16 | LuxorPL | That's not a sound, just alien activity - normal in outer celestial bodies of sol system. |
17:17.31 | LuxorPL | What, didnt you hear 'bout roosevelt? |
17:17.36 | Hachiman | Although, like with colours in NASA photographs, a lot of the sounds are more manufactured |
17:17.41 | OluapPlayer | aliens pls go we saw the Sun first |
17:17.46 | LuxorPL | nope |
17:17.51 | LuxorPL | THEY ARE HERE |
17:18.27 | LuxorPL | Wormy, back to the topic of minerals and their descriptions on wiki, I think we should sort them by their type, and then into tabbers. |
17:18.30 | OluapPlayer | I can see Pluto's sounds being in a sci-fi game |
17:18.39 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIZPpLbYPzU Venus is really rather scary |
17:18.40 | OluapPlayer | Ancient precursor facility, with these sounds |
17:18.56 | Wormy_ | Yeah that makes sense. |
17:18.57 | LuxorPL | What means every mineral needs to get classification in Igneous, Sedimentary or metamorphic. |
17:19.09 | LuxorPL | So we'll have problems with things like grinnon, which saves energy. |
17:19.16 | LuxorPL | But it would rather be an igneous one. |
17:19.26 | OluapPlayer | y venus blue in the pic |
17:19.39 | Wormy_ | No, I'd arrange them by mineralogy groups |
17:19.49 | LuxorPL | Well, you know these things better than I do. |
17:20.00 | OluapPlayer | Also these obvious text-to-speak lines kinda kill the mood |
17:20.27 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs these are the Jupiter sounds I heard before |
17:20.29 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral#Mineral_classes |
17:20.53 | Wormy_ | Although I think it might actually be better to arrange them by ores |
17:21.03 | LuxorPL | I've just found some mars sounds, propably alien activity |
17:21.05 | LuxorPL | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr9O0uR4-Kw |
17:21.13 | Wormy_ | Because then we can list their origin and locale better |
17:21.16 | LuxorPL | Ah those aliens |
17:21.31 | Wormy_ | Sorry I didn't mean "No" in a harsh way |
17:21.53 | LuxorPL | Np, though I've thought about a standard construction metal able to replace the steel or iron. |
17:22.01 | Wormy_ | And associate minerals with ore type? |
17:22.04 | LuxorPL | Ferrite - a quite rare mix of silicon and ferrum. |
17:22.22 | LuxorPL | Wormy, it's your decision, I really dont understand much of these, since I'm not english at all. |
17:22.39 | LuxorPL | In fact I can barely understand these classes even on Polish versions of those pages. |
17:22.52 | LuxorPL | And guys, what do you think about these mars sounds? |
17:23.04 | Wormy_ | What it comes down to really, is what is easier for users to use and understand |
17:23.22 | Wormy_ | And easier to organise I guess |
17:23.32 | LuxorPL | I think second thing is more important |
17:23.44 | LuxorPL | Nobody would understand anything if everything would be a mess. |
17:23.52 | LuxorPL | Double negation... |
17:24.55 | Wormy_ | I think this would be a useful solution, because it allows us to think of locations and amounts oif the resource and whatnot, although we could also include the mineralogy database set on a different page that links back to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ore#Classification |
17:26.07 | Wormy_ | Though don't mind me, I might be make it excessively more complex than it needs to be |
17:26.19 | LuxorPL | I've just found Polish version of this wikipedia page |
17:26.28 | LuxorPL | These types are puncted in 5 dots |
17:26.37 | LuxorPL | Every taking less than half line of a text |
17:26.49 | LuxorPL | I started to understand why I use english versions of everything... |
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17:27.38 | Hachiman | I suddenly do not wanna listen to the sounds planet make anymore |
17:27.55 | OluapPlayer | Why not? |
17:27.58 | Hachiman | The video of the sound of Venus glitched on my laptop |
17:28.05 | OluapPlayer | Oh that hur |
17:28.05 | Hachiman | It was horrifying |
17:28.11 | OluapPlayer | I listened to the Earth sounds |
17:28.20 | LuxorPL | Or, what if we sort them not by geology, but just basic thinking? I'd propose using terms such as a 'crystal', 'metal', 'igneous/sedimentary/metamorphic rock', etc. |
17:28.21 | OluapPlayer | It sounded like the sea, fittingly enough |
17:28.46 | LuxorPL | It'll be simple and easy to understand, as well easy to sort. |
17:29.58 | Wormy_ | The problem is that while its simpler for people who wouldn't use it often, vague classification becomes confusing when you want to use it properly. I think what you mean by metal, are the Native Elements, which come in crystals |
17:30.08 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_97jGrgKd8 The Sun sounds like a god |
17:30.21 | LuxorPL | Yeah, metals need further classifications |
17:30.40 | Ghelae | A simple problem with intuitive rather than technical classifications is the cases that fit into multiple categories. |
17:30.41 | LuxorPL | I'd say sth like 'elemental' and 'synthetic'-consisting of multiple elements |
17:30.59 | Ghelae | The word you're looking for there is "compound". |
17:31.03 | LuxorPL | Oh right. |
17:31.31 | OluapPlayer | Oh fuck |
17:31.38 | OluapPlayer | It actually does |
17:31.40 | LuxorPL | I'd like to find a solution today, though it will be tough to do |
17:32.05 | Ghelae | Although as a general rule introducing new elements into fiction causes a major failure of my willing suspension of disbelief, so unless we list a load of real-world elements most of our entries will be compounds. |
17:32.10 | Wormy_ | Hach: Okay Vemnus one is scary. I recall from a documentary that sounds from Venus are partly caused by lightning in the atmosphere, which makes it all the more sinister |
17:32.25 | Hachiman | That is the sound of a coronal mass ejection and its aftermath slowed down |
17:32.36 | Hachiman | Literally the sound of the wrath of the Sun |
17:33.07 | OluapPlayer | This whole thing gives me ideas for the Corruptus Overworlds hur |
17:33.07 | Monet | Or just the Sun farting. |
17:33.15 | LuxorPL | So we could also just create finite list of minerals, having broad application, though it would lock many people from creating their ones |
17:33.17 | Hachiman | These planetary voices all have rather Lovecraftian properties to them |
17:33.22 | LuxorPL | It would work just like the galaxies |
17:33.42 | LuxorPL | You'd better click this link to the Mars sounds |
17:33.45 | Hachiman | Of course these sounds cannot actually be heard in space, this is audio converted from electromagnetic phenomena |
17:33.55 | Wormy_ | Listening to them could make you mad |
17:33.59 | OluapPlayer | I'm aware |
17:35.01 | Ghelae | Currently our list of fictional minerals isn't long enough for it to be clear how they should be best classified. |
17:35.09 | OluapPlayer | I can imagine approaching Corruptus Overworlds causing sounds to be heard inside of spaceships which would be the demon's equivalent of breathing |
17:35.15 | Hachiman | Ohgod |
17:35.20 | Hachiman | That sounds fucking horrifying |
17:35.30 | Wormy_ | What I think we could have is two pages: One for ores and resources, extraction/processing and economics. The ores could be broad categories which describe where they are commonly found. Then a mineral database similar to existing classification, but with simple explanation, that links back to ore types. |
17:36.01 | OluapPlayer | Considering they emit entropic auras these sounds could probably be heard in the space around them as well as the surface |
17:36.08 | Monet | LuxorPL: I'm more in favour of lists of common non-Earth or artificial compounds. THe problem in the present day with introducing new elements is that roughly all known and plasusable speculated elements are already listed on the periodic table. |
17:36.43 | Monet | And I approve of Wormy's idea of extraction, processing and economics |
17:36.54 | Ghelae | I also approve. |
17:37.12 | Hachiman | Space, much like the ocean, is a rather horrifying place |
17:37.15 | OluapPlayer | When the teams go to destroy the Overworlds they definitely need to take hearing protection, I can't imagine what one would look like if it actively tried to roar |
17:37.22 | Wormy_ | Resource classification is not too complicated either |
17:37.27 | OluapPlayer | sound like rather |
17:37.34 | Xho | "Not too well" - Kithworto |
17:37.34 | Monet | The thing about processing and economics is that metals that are rare now might be ocmmon enough for mass use in the future. |
17:37.54 | LuxorPL | So we're on the half-way point |
17:38.01 | LuxorPL | All to do is to finish the discussion today |
17:38.10 | LuxorPL | So we could get to job tomorrow. |
17:38.23 | LuxorPL | But still the problem would be pics of resources itself |
17:38.29 | Monet | 130 years ago no one could have imagined that platinum could be used as a catalyst for carbon scrubbing. |
17:38.42 | Ghelae | It's 18:36 here. Even if we want to finish before sunset it's not like we're in a rush. |
17:38.52 | Hachiman | I get reminded of the dialogue exchange between Eliphas the Inheritor and Shas'o Kais in DoW: Dark Crusade hur |
17:38.55 | LuxorPL | 19:36 in Poland. |
17:38.56 | LuxorPL | :> |
17:38.59 | Ghelae | Most people who are currently here will probably still be here close to midnight. |
17:39.02 | Ghelae | Or past midnight, for you. |
17:39.07 | LuxorPL | Well, yeah. |
17:39.32 | Hachiman | Eliphas attempts to taunt Shas'o through his comms and all Shas'o can register is audible irritations |
17:39.39 | Wormy_ | I sometimes here till the early hours. |
17:39.46 | OluapPlayer | Shame I wasn't aware of planet sounds back when Vorius was still alive |
17:39.51 | Wormy_ | Then I will sleep till lunchtime |
17:39.59 | OluapPlayer | I could've made the World of Corpses emit pained screaming sounds through ship comms |
17:40.17 | Wormy_ | But not today. I got up for Pluto today. |
17:40.18 | Hachiman | The OST for Giygas reminds me of planet sounds |
17:40.30 | Hachiman | Which is fitting realy |
17:40.50 | OluapPlayer | Well he's essentially Azathoth |
17:40.58 | OluapPlayer | So he's even bigger than a planet in scale hur |
17:41.10 | Ghelae | We could, perhaps, classify minerals by their main practical applications. |
17:41.28 | Wormy_ | Hachi, Luxor: Earth sounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8-3dsEQ3_I |
17:41.45 | LuxorPL | Its pig |
17:41.57 | LuxorPL | Not earth doo |
17:41.57 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkZkN7uSZfk have dis |
17:42.43 | Hachiman | That sounds much less impressive hur |
17:42.53 | Wormy_ | without commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eez3juhJxA |
17:43.02 | OluapPlayer | It sounds like a nightmare |
17:43.15 | LuxorPL | I've just found the dark side of yt |
17:44.25 | Monet | First time? |
17:44.40 | Wormy_ | Its a downward spiral from now on. |
17:45.05 | Hachiman | It has suddenly struck me just how horrifying the implications of magic and psychic powers are in the SporeWiki universe |
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17:45.37 | Wormy_ | Well, they are the most powerful elements in it. |
17:45.46 | Monet | Hachiman: Took your time heh. |
17:45.52 | OluapPlayer | Elaborate dis |
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17:46.24 | Hachiman | Consider that not all beings with Essence potential are featured in the limelight |
17:46.45 | Hachiman | There are people with Essence powers living in normal society that do not know how to handle them or are abusing them |
17:47.13 | LuxorPL | Okay, we already have many ideas of resorce sort methods, though how the hell should we illustrate them at all? Will we use google or get somes by pencils? |
17:47.24 | Hachiman | And the prominence of Essence itself seems to be on a rise |
17:47.53 | Wormy_ | I have a big mineral collection. I could lend a hand, I guess |
17:47.54 | OluapPlayer | I imagined essence prominence diminishing after Tantum ended |
17:48.04 | Hachiman | Essence itself is a very difficult thing to understand to the average, unenlightened mind |
17:48.19 | Monet | Its something that the police of the various empires might have to learn how to deal with |
17:48.24 | LuxorPL | Hentai-man |
17:48.24 | Wormy_ | Though I'm not sure if photographs may look right since I'd need a wide angle lens and whatnot |
17:48.37 | LuxorPL | I think photos arent a good idea |
17:48.50 | Hachiman | Well yeah you have a point, Essence just seemed to spike in the mid to late-2700s |
17:48.58 | LuxorPL | Whole wiki is based on ingame spore images (not including my planets from spc eng) |
17:48.59 | Hachiman | And now it is on a decline I believe |
17:49.10 | LuxorPL | So we should get them to look cartony, I guess. |
17:49.15 | LuxorPL | oo* |
17:49.38 | Wormy_ | We can't rip them from the internet, its against Wikia polivies and copyright. So Spore might have to be it |
17:49.56 | LuxorPL | Or we can create some in Ps, Paint-net, or GIMP. |
17:50.04 | Ghelae | Ansite - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andasium - is a mineral that's illustrated photographically. |
17:50.19 | OluapPlayer | I did mention the Bonio naturally possess affinity with dream energy because of the Vida'Rra origin |
17:50.31 | LuxorPL | Yeah, but at down left you have real-life photo, and top-right you have spore spacship... |
17:50.37 | OluapPlayer | Chances are essence-powered Bonio caused much mayhem in their ancient history |
17:50.44 | Hachiman | Aye |
17:50.57 | OluapPlayer | But it died out after they became spacefaring |
17:51.07 | OluapPlayer | There are no known Bonio essence users today other than Herquie |
17:51.17 | Monet | Not every empire has the luxury of being ignorant of essence until the mid-late 2700s |
17:51.32 | Hachiman | Descension in Zazane became far more prominent following Tyraz' own Descension after an absence of it for around a couple of centuries/millennia |
17:51.43 | Wormy_ | The problem is again, of realism. Few ore-grade minerals look very pretty. |
17:51.54 | Monet | Some empires, like the Divinarium and the DI, have known about essence for millennia. |
17:52.07 | LuxorPL | Well, thats why illustrating resources is as hard as sorting them. |
17:52.24 | LuxorPL | I'd say we should make their pics in spore, just from creature creator |
17:52.33 | LuxorPL | You add some spikes/crystals/hair, etc |
17:52.39 | LuxorPL | and you have pretty-nice looking mineral. |
17:53.01 | Hachiman | Yeah but not every civilisation is as old and enlightened as the DI or Divinarium |
17:53.09 | Hachiman | There are countless younger states |
17:53.22 | Monet | I agree |
17:53.56 | Monet | Perhaps for a number of these yougner states it was as esoteric as Ki? |
17:54.01 | Hachiman | Yeah |
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17:54.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Fucking IRC |
17:54.38 | Hachiman | Consider the idea behind psykers in the WH40K universe |
17:55.05 | Wormy_ | The DCP believes essence is a physical process where consciousness is anchored to hyperspace |
17:55.23 | Hachiman | They are capable of defying the otherwise established laws of physics and reality and have connections to planes that should otherwise not be connected to |
17:55.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Dolgan was probably the first Borealis Zazane to achieve a Demon Form in thousands of years |
17:55.59 | OluapPlayer_ | I wouldn't call Khortaavis fully descended so I don't count him |
17:56.24 | Wormy_ | Actually, I might have a solution. |
17:56.26 | Hachiman | And just because elemental Essence is not an outright malignant Essence does not mean that it is exclusive to those who are good or neutral |
17:57.05 | Wormy_ | If we go with Ghel's idea of organising minerals via practical application, at least some images could be of constructed objects. |
17:57.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Well no, Geltastra is an evil Radeon and she can use elemental energy |
17:57.13 | Monet | I've always been of the school of thought that anyone is open to harnessing Elemental Essence. The willingness ot harness it however, is what makes it rarer |
17:57.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Mostly because she's a Radeon |
17:57.58 | LuxorPL | We'll have a loooooot of smaller lists of minerals via application, so we'd propably need groups and subgroups. |
17:58.10 | LuxorPL | Like minerals capable of holding energy. |
17:58.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Makes me wish 'entropic' was not such a hardcoded name into the setting otherwise I'd rename the essence |
17:58.25 | LuxorPL | It's very important which type of energy it can hold. |
17:58.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Because it has nothing to do with actual entropy |
17:58.32 | dino82_ | that is odd |
17:58.36 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't even understand the concept of entropy |
17:58.37 | dino82_ | the wikia doesnt'allow me to make a vehicle page |
17:59.12 | Hachiman | It is a pretty horrifying revelation that psykers are on the rise in human societies in WH40K and that, eventually, humanity's endgame is to become something like the Eldar, except that their psychic powers are far less refines or precise and serve more like a shotgun |
17:59.21 | Hachiman | By comparison to the Eldar's sniper rifle |
17:59.36 | Hachiman | refined even |
17:59.56 | Monet | LuxorPL: I'm not so sure it is. Since the various forms of energy are expressions of how it is used, not hardlien catergories of energy |
18:00.48 | Monet | Chemical energy is the go-to for "stored" energy. |
18:01.04 | Ghelae | OluapPlayer_: I'd suggest getting a bot to edit all occurances of "entropy" and "entropic", but then that would change all uses of the scientific meaning of those words too. |
18:01.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes, it'd cause too much hassle |
18:01.38 | Monet | Ghelae: Is the bot case-sensetive? |
18:01.50 | Ghelae | I don't know. |
18:02.05 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember a time Jo's bot fucked up and replaced all instances of "war" to "infobox infobox war" |
18:02.07 | Wormy_ | Also this concept of energy is more like the ether, or even essence for that matter. The image of an all present medium which can collect or void in places. |
18:02.16 | Hachiman | olol |
18:02.24 | Ghelae | Jo and Cyr would be better to ask about how the bot works. |
18:02.35 | Monet | I've noticed that most cases where entropic energy is menioned, "Entropic" is capitalised. |
18:02.44 | LuxorPL | Cyrannus could be helpful with all those things... |
18:02.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Not always |
18:02.47 | Ghelae | We recently found that Jo's bot had attached the 2nd Year of the GCW three times in a row. |
18:02.53 | Ghelae | attacked* |
18:02.58 | CyraBot | It is case sensitive |
18:03.09 | Ghelae | The page was filled with "infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war". |
18:03.13 | LuxorPL | I'm leaving for now, I'll show up again next hour. |
18:03.14 | OluapPlayer_ | olol |
18:03.15 | LuxorPL | cya! |
18:03.16 | Wormy_ | I'd think it is from a guess, since the language it is based on is. |
18:03.20 | Wormy_ | bye |
18:04.11 | OluapPlayer_ | I've used lower case to refer to entropic energy many times |
18:04.41 | Monet | OlaupPlayer: Well the scientific defenition of entropy is that its a measure of disorder in a system. |
18:04.58 | Monet | A pile of sand for instance, has more entropy than a sandcastle. |
18:05.23 | Xho | Santorakh - u want entropy cheese jewellery |
18:05.28 | OluapPlayer_ | I've looked into the definition of it more than once and every time I couldn't understand a thing |
18:05.36 | Monet | Ah |
18:06.31 | Ghelae | The entropy of a state is sort of a measure of how probable it is for that state to form randomly. So using the sand example, throwing a load of sand on the floor is a lot more likely to result in a pile of sand than a sandcastle. So the pile has a higher entropy. |
18:07.44 | Monet | One way of putting it the simpler a state of something like matter is = higher entropy it has. |
18:07.47 | Ghelae | You might struggle to understand is if you look at what exactly that measure is, which is when you end up going into mathematical formulae. |
18:07.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Whatever it is, still has nothing to do with nightmares and soul eating |
18:08.00 | Ghelae | Absolutely nothing to do with nightmares and soul eating whatsoever. :P |
18:08.02 | OluapPlayer_ | >mathematical formulae |
18:08.05 | OluapPlayer_ | This kills the Oluap |
18:08.06 | Monet | Well entropy is relevant when it comes to decay. |
18:08.52 | Monet | So the habit of entropic demons to eat stuff does make sense in regards to entropy. |
18:09.09 | Monet | Eat or deconstitute, either works. |
18:09.29 | OluapPlayer_ | My only hope is that we eventually make a Sporewiki game where I can rename it to Nightmare Energy or something like that |
18:10.07 | Monet | I've been fine with "entropic" because in my mind then ame is not fully wrong. |
18:10.35 | Monet | And if we look at soul destroying, the act of rendering a soul into nothingness is potentially a form of entropy. |
18:10.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Imp created the energy and later gave it to me so it's not entirely my fault |
18:11.05 | OluapPlayer_ | I assume he called it that because Chaos Energy was already a thing and entropy-chaos-disorder |
18:11.38 | Ghelae | IIRC, yes. |
18:12.09 | Ghelae | He also originally called it Chaos Energy, but then Xho was obviously unimpressed by the choice of name. |
18:13.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Angry selfish mann even back then hurhurhur |
18:13.06 | Xho | yeh |
18:13.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Fast forward now and it's probably the closest essence to Chaos out of all not created by Xho himself |
18:13.41 | OluapPlayer_ | So jokes on u |
18:13.45 | Hachiman | I do not think there is really anything wrong with the name myself |
18:14.12 | Hachiman | If I recall, entropy has something significant to do with the eventual death of the universe |
18:15.08 | Ghelae | As particles move around, they move into more probable arrangements, i.e. the entropy of the universe increases with time. |
18:15.23 | OluapPlayer_ | I think the universe would be considered dead if it achieved absolute entropy or something like that |
18:15.43 | Wormy_ | The entropy of my room is a nightmare and soul-crushing |
18:15.50 | OluapPlayer_ | olol |
18:16.05 | Ghelae | Well, life is like sandcastles and an empty universe of cold gas is like a pile of sand. |
18:16.18 | Ghelae | To carry on the example from earlier. |
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18:17.44 | Ghelae | Anything that does anything needs to be arranged in a particular way to do its job. There are more ways of arranging particles into matter that doesn't do anything - sand piles - than complicated structures that can serve a purpose - sandcastles. |
18:17.48 | Monet | SO yeah, a universe of total entropy is a dead universe. |
18:18.15 | Ghelae | So as particles move around and away from their perfect arrangement in a sandcastle, they're more likely to end up in a pile than anything else. |
18:20.50 | Hachiman | If I recall, the eventual cold death of the universe |
18:20.55 | Ghelae | Exactly. |
18:21.48 | Hachiman | I cannot imagine how life would fare in a cosmic environment afflicted in the process of universal entropy |
18:21.55 | Ghelae | Cold, because it's easier to go from a situation in which particles have high energy (are warm) to one in which they have low energy which is scattered all across the universe. |
18:22.37 | Ghelae | And partly due to the geometric effects of expanding spacetime stretching particles' wavelengths, thereby decreasing their energy. |
18:24.07 | Monet | ENtropic energy has shown to be lethal and insanity-enducing, could that be the result of some form of entropy? The Kikras are a good representation of entropy in action as they are zombies wh oare decaying at an accelerated rate |
18:24.43 | Monet | Insanity due ot entropy could be sometihng like the precise workings of a healthy brain literally breaking down perhaps? |
18:25.09 | Monet | Higher brain functions tend to have less entropy than lower brain functions |
18:25.20 | Hachiman | Aye |
18:25.21 | OluapPlayer_ | I guess that's good logic |
18:25.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Speaking of Kikras |
18:25.56 | OluapPlayer_ | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c9/Gynash_Kikra.png/revision/latest?cb=20150710150426 they got eyes now |
18:26.18 | Hachiman | Jesus |
18:26.22 | Hachiman | I love that design |
18:26.40 | Hachiman | I am guessing Mahedore commands both normal Gynash Dragons and Kikras then |
18:26.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Kikras die out in less than a day so probably noit |
18:26.59 | OluapPlayer_ | not* |
18:27.08 | Hachiman | But the Loron'Kikra |
18:27.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Are artificial creatures created by Kolossus |
18:27.46 | OluapPlayer_ | An actual Loron being possessed by a Shu'olerthae would be turned into a zombie |
18:27.52 | Monet | Kikras are shock troops iirc |
18:27.56 | Hachiman | So Loron'Kikra are different from normal Kikras then |
18:27.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Correct |
18:28.02 | OluapPlayer_ | To both |
18:28.15 | OluapPlayer_ | The only reason they're called Loron'Kikra is because I didn't think of this back then hur |
18:28.16 | Hachiman | rite |
18:29.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Kikras are under accelerated decomposing so after a few hours following the possession, their bodies probably collapse and they die while the Shu'olerthae leaves to possess someone else |
18:29.26 | Hachiman | Tagutan is pretty lucky to be alive then |
18:29.42 | OluapPlayer_ | Extremely |
18:29.52 | Hachiman | I do not think we ever gave a justification as to how Tagutan managed to survive while almost literally no one else did |
18:30.04 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember back in the Andromeda front of Part 1, I had Draconis Kikras having Eleiethae feeding from their backs while giving them piggyback rides |
18:30.16 | Hachiman | Jesus |
18:30.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Tagutan was psychic, that was the explanation |
18:30.32 | Monet | There's a lot of flesh on a Draconis'Kikra |
18:31.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Draconis are pretty big fellows |
18:31.03 | OluapPlayer_ | http://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Poison_Zombie I got the idea from these things |
18:31.32 | Monet | THat makes a lot of sense now |
18:31.49 | Monet | Draocnis really don't have it nice hwen it comes to zombification |
18:32.35 | Monet | They are either carriers of Eleiethae under the Corruptus or Tanks under the Tabascere. |
18:33.04 | OluapPlayer_ | Chances are those Eleiethae were also laying eggs inside them but that's a thing they do to all their victims, not just Draconis |
18:33.21 | Hachiman | I do think I should find means to make Moxix-style zombification different from Corruptus zombification |
18:33.52 | OluapPlayer_ | The fact Corruptus zombies are not sapient and serve as little more than cannon fodder which only last for about 5 hours or less |
18:34.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Also all Kikras are the same in terms of abilities. There are not 'types' of Kikra |
18:34.30 | OluapPlayer_ | no* |
18:34.51 | Hachiman | I suppose that is fair enough |
18:35.35 | OluapPlayer_ | The current model of the Fog War doesn't allow me to showcase the Corruptus Demons that well |
18:35.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Which sucks a bit |
18:36.09 | Monet | Hachiman: The Tabascere page mentions that there was something about Draconis biology that made them into a distinct form of warrior under the Tabascere |
18:36.23 | OluapPlayer_ | It was easier back in Part 1 because we had like, 2 factions at most working against the demons |
18:36.31 | OluapPlayer_ | But now we have a whole allied navy |
18:37.13 | Hachiman | Monet: Possibly because the majority of Draconis, due to Aetomarchis influence in their ancient past, have at least some diluted signature of Descension |
18:37.37 | Monet | Hachiman: Good point. |
18:37.39 | OluapPlayer_ | http://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Fast_Zombie at least I never made Kikras who act like these |
18:37.49 | OluapPlayer_ | These things are the bane of my existence in Half-Life |
18:37.57 | Hachiman | hur |
18:37.57 | Monet | Wait... "lays eggs" |
18:38.11 | Monet | Dam U Oluap for making Chrysalids! |
18:38.49 | OluapPlayer_ | They scream, they run really fast, leap at you and make angry growling noises every time they slash you with their claws |
18:38.54 | Hachiman | So yeah, from what I can see, Moxix and the Shu'olerthae follow differing zombie tropes hur |
18:38.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Plus the fact they have no fucking flesh |
18:39.04 | OluapPlayer_ | Skin even |
18:39.08 | OluapPlayer_ | They have flesh quite clearly |
18:41.37 | Hachiman | I am thinking to myself that the resurrection of corpses caused by Moxix and his goons could only really happen to cadavers and such that have been afflicted with Descension |
18:42.06 | Monet | I stopped playing the original Half Life not long after meeting my first headcrab zombies. |
18:42.14 | OluapPlayer_ | That's another thing, Shu'olerthae can only possess the living |
18:42.35 | Hachiman | So Zazane and a degree of Draconis corpses would resurrect somewhat automatically in the presence of Moxix or his servants |
18:42.41 | OluapPlayer_ | http://combineoverwiki.net/images/8/8e/Zombie_Scientist.jpg I can see why, look at that face |
18:43.00 | Hachiman | Alongside people that were killed by them since Descension-afflicted wounds |
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18:43.30 | Luxor | Hey again. |
18:43.34 | Hachiman | If you do not die of Descension-afflicted wounds though you will probably turn zombie anyway |
18:43.35 | Luxor | Any new conclusions with the minerals? |
18:43.44 | Ghelae | Hello. And no, nothing new really. |
18:44.03 | Luxor | I guess you're still trying to find good way of sorting them :/ |
18:44.37 | Monet | Hachiman: There were these Zazane-like aliens that looked affiliated with Moxix. Could they have perhaps spread a descention-touched viral agent? |
18:44.37 | Hachiman | We have not really been discussing them hur |
18:44.37 | Ghelae | No; classification by usage seems the best idea. |
18:44.53 | Ghelae | We had a disucssion about entropy, and now zombies. |
18:45.03 | Luxor | Well, zombies arent any danger at all |
18:45.14 | Hachiman | Dunno, I |
18:45.17 | Hachiman | Fuck |
18:45.23 | Luxor | They just go forward, making no harm... |
18:45.26 | Luxor | It's easy to kill |
18:45.31 | Hachiman | Dunno, I would not really consider those aliens canon anymore |
18:45.39 | Luxor | Scenarios from for ex. Dying Light are completely false... |
18:45.41 | Ghelae | SporeWikiverse ones aren't so harmless. |
18:45.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Depends of the setting |
18:45.55 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Actually it was the fact those things were normal people ten minutes before I first met them. |
18:45.57 | Luxor | Well, but these are not zombies, for ex. corruptus |
18:46.04 | Luxor | It's like infestation, like zerg, not zombies. |
18:46.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes that's probably a scary factor |
18:46.15 | Hachiman | Most of SporeWiki's zombies are Essence/magic-empowered |
18:46.17 | OluapPlayer_ | http://combineoverwiki.net/images/0/08/Gonome_sprint.jpg hug pls |
18:46.28 | Luxor | no plox |
18:46.53 | Luxor | Okay, so we'll see how this sorting method will work. |
18:46.58 | Monet | Before I was 17 I used to be terrified of zombies from living people on the basis they used to be perfectly friendly people. |
18:47.16 | Luxor | Zombies dont care |
18:47.17 | Hachiman | Zombies used to scare me a lot when I was younger |
18:47.37 | Luxor | I was more scarred of doom than these anyway |
18:47.38 | Hachiman | I used to have nightmares of being at home and being attacked by zombified relatives |
18:47.45 | OluapPlayer_ | One thing Half-Life 2 did well was show not even the enemy aliens were safe from zombification http://combineoverwiki.net/images/d/d4/Zombine.jpg |
18:47.55 | Hachiman | Which always seemed to be the most realistic nightmares I had |
18:47.57 | Luxor | Have you heard about Mickey Mouse forbidden episode? |
18:47.58 | OluapPlayer_ | ZOMBIES WITH GRENADES |
18:48.16 | Hachiman | Luxor: Yes, a shitty Creepypasta |
18:48.34 | Luxor | It was basically a Mickey's dream about Pluto getting ripped by doctor who wanted puppys to hatch out of eggs |
18:48.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Conveniently, you can use the Gravity Gun to steal the grenade from it and fling it back at the zombies |
18:48.42 | Luxor | wait a min... |
18:48.59 | Monet | OluapPlayer: WHen I met the ZOmbine I sort-of liked their garbled vocoders |
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18:49.09 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah I like them too |
18:49.11 | Monet | THen one jumped out form pitch black and ai pissed myself. |
18:49.15 | Luxor | It seems colors went gone for me |
18:49.29 | OluapPlayer_ | The Overwatch Soldier is still trying to warn his comrades the area is infested even after he has been zombified |
18:49.44 | Ghelae | Luxor: Coloured names? You can access the settins by a button at the top-left-hand corner of the page. |
18:49.45 | Hachiman | Ouch, that sounds sad |
18:49.50 | Ghelae | I've never been scared of zombies, but then, I never saw a zombie movie until Shaun of the Dead. |
18:49.57 | Hachiman | hur |
18:50.02 | Luxor | It worked. |
18:50.06 | Hachiman | Shaun of the Dead is pretty funny |
18:50.14 | Hachiman | I love that film |
18:50.16 | OluapPlayer_ | One thing about Zombines is that they are actually missing nearly all of their skulls |
18:50.19 | Luxor | I wonder if you watched Scary Movie 3 with Leslie Nielsen |
18:50.23 | OluapPlayer_ | The only part still intact is the jaw |
18:50.23 | Luxor | His best film... |
18:50.25 | Monet | Well, it is implied that one is still conscious while controlled by a headcrab |
18:50.29 | OluapPlayer_ | So how exact they are talking is a mystery |
18:50.39 | Ghelae | Although, if the zombies in question are children wearing gas masks constantly asking "are you my mummy?"... |
18:50.49 | Monet | Zombines are cyborgs anyway |
18:50.53 | OluapPlayer_ | True |
18:51.04 | Luxor | *ERROR* Black mesa ran out of healthy brains |
18:51.06 | Hachiman | Oh boy, that episode of Doctor Who was a fucking televised nightmare |
18:51.11 | Luxor | *Please report to DEATH* |
18:51.47 | OluapPlayer_ | http://combineoverwiki.net/images/e/ed/VortigauntChef01.jpg and then you learn headcrabs are edible |
18:51.53 | Luxor | Jupiter covered zombie voices in LfD2 |
18:52.01 | Luxor | It was born for it |
18:52.55 | OluapPlayer_ | "Citizens in Half-Life 2: Episode One comment that "They don't taste like crab."" |
18:53.26 | Hachiman | The Zombine sounds are pretty intimidating actually |
18:53.54 | Luxor | Back to the topic of resources, when do we start all this work with them? What should be the first task to do? |
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18:53.59 | Monet | Its laos armoured due ot wearing Overwatch body armour |
18:54.02 | Luxor | We could add Zombium as infestation mineral |
18:54.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes, it's more resilient than a normal zombie, can sprint and can go ALLAH ACKBAR with a grenade |
18:54.31 | Monet | I don't know how a rock could zombify aside from extensive radiation poisoning. |
18:54.45 | Xho | ALLAHU AKBAR |
18:54.53 | Ghelae | You could start a page, for example http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Resources and then bug Wormy to add a classification to it. |
18:54.53 | OluapPlayer_ | The only zombie more resilient than the Zombine is the Poison Zombie |
18:54.54 | Monet | Don't you mean ALLAHU AHKRAB? |
18:54.56 | Hachiman | I get reminded of one SCP which is effectively a zombifying crystal |
18:55.06 | OluapPlayer_ | hur |
18:55.14 | Luxor | https://www.pinterest.com/pin/205547170468722387/ |
18:56.14 | Hachiman | Anyone who comes in contact with it begins to get crystallined to the point that they become a statue made of crystal before effectively shattering and exploding, launching more infectious crystalline material into the air |
18:56.14 | Luxor | These muslim assh*les |
18:56.31 | Luxor | Let's create rainbow resource shining at its owner |
18:56.36 | Luxor | mindblow |
18:57.02 | Monet | HAchiman: SOudns like tiberium on steroids. |
18:57.08 | Hachiman | Yeah |
18:57.09 | Wormy_ | ALL HAIL THE DIAMONDOID |
18:57.27 | Hachiman | I cannot remember which SCP it was now |
18:57.36 | Wormy_ | I've already got a mineral than can influence people |
18:57.41 | Luxor | Or, a mineral capable of absorbing 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of light |
18:57.51 | Luxor | Wormy |
18:57.53 | Luxor | we have: |
18:57.53 | Luxor | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Resources |
18:57.55 | Luxor | And you |
18:57.57 | Luxor | got to work |
18:57.58 | Luxor | fast |
18:58.26 | Wormy_ | hah hah hah |
18:58.31 | Wormy_ | fast hah |
18:58.35 | Luxor | Tiberium basically mutates every living form except Scrins in area. |
18:58.42 | Luxor | plox worm |
18:58.51 | Ghelae | I said you'd have to bug Wormy. |
18:58.53 | Ghelae | I meant it. |
18:58.57 | Luxor | worm go |
18:59.20 | Hachiman | I remember it was used against SCP-682 and while SCP-682 did survive, it claimed that the process hurt like shit and would kill the people involved in the experiment |
18:59.22 | Wormy_ | Ore page or mineral page? |
18:59.39 | Monet | We seem to mostly avoid magic rocks i nthe fictionverse. Aside from the odd essence crystal. |
18:59.44 | Ghelae | Your task, Wormy, is just to add a classification of resources that we can use. |
18:59.46 | Luxor | Well it's a basis page for clasification |
18:59.59 | Hachiman | I feel kinda sorry for SCP-682 since while he is an asshole, he is practically bullied by the Foundation hur |
19:00.39 | Luxor | And the first resources to add would be these from forum topic. |
19:00.43 | Ghelae | I'm going to go and make dinner now, but I'll come back from time to time before I've finished in case a sciency topic comes up that you all need me for. |
19:00.50 | Luxor | The one where you also posted your idea worm |
19:00.53 | Ghelae | Like if you start talking about energy again. :P |
19:01.26 | OluapPlayer_ | 682's attitude is a bit justified since they are constantly trying to kill him |
19:01.51 | OluapPlayer_ | I also like the fact he's terrified of 173 hur |
19:03.29 | Luxor | What games are your favs, guys? |
19:03.38 | Luxor | Except spore...? |
19:04.58 | Hachiman | If I recall, didn't 682 and 173 get put together once to see what would happen? |
19:05.46 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
19:05.54 | Luxor | You'd get 855 hur hur |
19:06.12 | OluapPlayer_ | 682 grew eyes through his entire body and huddled into the corner of the room |
19:06.29 | OluapPlayer_ | When personnel began shooting his eyes to shut them, he developed a carapace around each to protect them |
19:06.35 | Hachiman | Jesus |
19:07.07 | OluapPlayer_ | I think 173's hands were covered in blood and flesh before 682 managed to give himself extra eyes |
19:07.49 | OluapPlayer_ | But still 173 is the only other entity in the facility he's afraid of |
19:07.54 | Hachiman | I doubt 173 could kill 682 though |
19:08.11 | Luxor | I'll show up later on. |
19:08.14 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't know, considering how terrified he was of it |
19:08.45 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember one story where 17 |
19:08.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Fuck |
19:09.16 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember one story where 173 starts multiplying, one part of it had a group of them ganging up on 682 and ripping him apart |
19:09.44 | Hachiman | Ohgod what the fuck |
19:09.55 | Hachiman | Where the hell did you read that |
19:10.02 | OluapPlayer_ | At the SCP site |
19:10.17 | OluapPlayer_ | Users can write their own stories about the entities |
19:10.30 | OluapPlayer_ | iirc the story ended with the 173s overruning North America |
19:10.35 | Hachiman | Jesus |
19:10.42 | Monet | End of world |
19:12.25 | OluapPlayer_ | http://www.scp-wiki.net/revised-entry found it |
19:15.44 | Hachiman | "The only good news is that about 150 of the bastards teamed up and ripped SCP-682 apart. Brought a smile to my face." |
19:15.46 | Hachiman | Jesus |
19:16.10 | Monet | Hachiman: The impritns left by the Aetomachis could explain how the occupants of the royal crypt were able to wake up. |
19:16.20 | Hachiman | Yeah |
19:16.44 | Monet | I can't see anything but a *very* competent infiltrator getting that deep into the palace depths. |
19:18.05 | OluapPlayer_ | http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-169 SCP also has its own Leviathan |
19:18.15 | Monet | But with all those bodies, and the incredible age of some of the occupants (a lot of whom might have been dust by the modern age), is it possible that some of the ressurected became spectres? |
19:19.05 | Monet | That or it was one of the catalysts for Korr's particular form. |
19:19.22 | Hachiman | Perhaps |
19:19.59 | Hachiman | "SCP-169 is surmised to be a marine arthropod of enormous size, known as the "Leviathan" by generations of sailors and oral history." >arthropod |
19:20.10 | Hachiman | It is a giant sea scorpion |
19:20.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
19:20.52 | OluapPlayer_ | A 8000 km long sea scorpion |
19:20.59 | Monet | Bloody hell |
19:21.18 | OluapPlayer_ | In the SCP-verse it's the source of the famed Bloop sound |
19:21.19 | Monet | Hmm, then again given this is the Draconis we're talking about, some of the bodies could ahve been artificially preserved. |
19:22.20 | Hachiman | 8,000km is around three times the length of the UK |
19:22.51 | Monet | Draocnid culture may treat a cadavear as a husk past its use, but that doesn't stop Draconis opting to stave off decay or erect monumental tombs to themselves or their family. |
19:23.06 | Hachiman | One must wonder how it manages to survive given its size - there are inevitable downsides to sheer scale hur |
19:23.23 | OluapPlayer_ | SCP is not realistic |
19:23.29 | OluapPlayer_ | It has sentient stars |
19:24.06 | Hachiman | brb |
19:25.17 | Monet | Oluap has a point |
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19:26.42 | Luxor | Hai egen |
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19:27.33 | drom | Monet: I gave up on actual modelling and got this together in Spore instead. http://i.imgur.com/TUCYFus.png |
19:27.50 | drom | There is a lot to do before I can finish it |
19:28.33 | Monet | Woah... |
19:28.38 | Monet | *really* liking the head |
19:28.58 | Monet | Though it does look absolutely tiny in compariso not its body. |
19:29.12 | drom | Yeah, that's the problem |
19:29.24 | drom | I've to resize everything related to the head |
19:29.28 | drom | every single fucking part |
19:33.20 | drom | Which would been easier if it wasn't for the "Ponytail"s' reduant collision mesh |
19:37.24 | drom | Monet: How's this? http://i.imgur.com/s9ul5ns.png |
19:37.42 | drom | I think it is enough |
19:37.47 | Monet | drom: They look like good sprinters |
19:38.02 | Monet | But yes. |
19:38.15 | Monet | The legs are long but that might be a feature of their biology. |
19:38.24 | Monet | Don't want them looking too human do we? |
19:38.46 | Hachiman | Bloody hell those legs |
19:38.55 | drom | Nah man. I'm all for long legs |
19:39.11 | Hachiman | I could only really see that physiology being acceptable for creatures that have evolved in low-grav environments |
19:41.33 | drom | Keep in mind that even the current model has long legs |
19:41.33 | drom | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/98/Nomataridressed.png/revision/latest?cb=20141220003502 |
19:42.45 | drom | They *did* have shorter legs before I considered making them longer |
19:51.32 | Pastarios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: Nothing beats SCP-610 though |
19:52.37 | Wormy_fiction | Can SCP-173 reach through live video feeds like the Weeping Angels? |
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19:53.03 | OluapPlayer_ | It can't |
19:53.15 | OluapPlayer_ | It can only kill you if you're next to it |
19:56.33 | drom | Wormy_fiction: Also, only biological instances of eyes do work on SCP-173. The eyes have also to be connected to a conscious mind. |
20:07.57 | dino82_ | bye bye! |
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20:17.49 | drom | MonetAway: Lotsa of fur http://i.imgur.com/Lj0hlRk.png |
20:19.33 | drom | I knew that using invisible bones would be a great idea |
20:20.40 | drom | Because if I use normal blob-based limbs, trying to render/save a creature that has a huge amount of parts will cuase the game to enter a indefinite loop due to the restrictions in the code. |
20:26.31 | Xho | So we're on about SCP now |
20:28.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Were |
20:28.42 | OluapPlayer_ | ur late |
20:31.15 | Xho | I don't exactly know what SCP even is |
20:31.19 | Xho | Is it some kind of fiction site |
20:31.36 | Xho | Or is it based off some series I have no clue exists |
20:32.16 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes, it's a fiction site |
20:32.58 | OluapPlayer_ | People come up with SCPs and write stories about said SCPs but they have no determined canon and have a VERY strict quality control |
20:34.21 | Xho | rite |
20:34.27 | Xho | Speaking of fiction |
20:34.44 | Xho | I need to put Mahanaya down on the Borealis map somewhere since its relocation |
20:36.45 | Wormy_fiction | Xho: Don't you remember basing a fiction off SCP? If you don't then I'm alarmed. |
20:36.51 | Xho | Pareidolia |
20:37.34 | Wormy_fiction | Then I haven't been SCP'd then |
20:40.49 | OluapPlayer_ | I didn't know Mahanaya was at Borealis now |
20:41.02 | OluapPlayer_ | But I suppose it's expected hur |
20:41.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Also we could have the Borealis States be members of the PCA instead of just allies if you want |
20:42.07 | drom | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/54/Nomatarian.png/revision/latest?cb=20141205215407 or this? http://i.imgur.com/Lj0hlRk.png |
20:43.12 | TekDroid | Hm... not sure. |
20:43.28 | Wormy_fiction | In other news, perhaps overshadowed is that the LHC has discovered Pentaquarks http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33517492 |
20:44.20 | MonetAway | Wormy_fiction: I saw that |
20:45.06 | drom | Dogerios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgm3lb9JUU0 |
20:51.10 | Wormy_fiction | I haven't even started on the minerals thing yet |
20:51.15 | Wormy_fiction | Better to do it now |
21:13.21 | Xho | OluapPlayer_: The Vi'Navitum relocated Mahanaya to Borealis following the Annihilation |
21:13.33 | Xho | Or the Mahanayans did it themselves |
21:13.35 | Xho | Eh I dnno |
21:13.37 | Xho | dunno |
21:13.59 | Xho | As for members, could work |
21:14.03 | drom | TekDroid MonetAway: Or what about this more detailed legs version? http://i.imgur.com/JyLPZnB.png |
21:14.17 | Xho | Though I could imagine the random Hyperborean going "OH GOD MAHANAYANS HELP" sometimes |
21:14.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Well no the people of the PCA are not ignorant hur |
21:15.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Remember they have Loron and Kicath around |
21:15.42 | OluapPlayer_ | As well as some ZÃ-Jittorám somewhere |
21:16.12 | Xho | Councillor pets |
21:16.40 | Xho | Well the Kicath are to be trusted since they've been involved with saving the galaxy for years |
21:16.43 | Xho | Loron well |
21:16.47 | Xho | Sheer blind luck |
21:17.32 | Xho | But yeah where should I put Mahanaya |
21:17.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Also Borealis doesn't really have much reason to fear the Mahanayans since they didn't have a presence in it before the Dominion/States showed up |
21:17.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Lemme check |
21:17.54 | Xho | True |
21:18.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Codex page says they live at the Demolidus Sector |
21:18.37 | OluapPlayer_ | So probably there |
21:21.05 | Xho | Mahanayan - deelin wit monster plants desert folk not used to dis |
21:22.50 | drom | Alright, the new Nomatarian model is now canon. I'll do the pics tomorrow, it's night atm |
21:24.42 | OluapPlayer_ | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11694162_1688095411409755_8660248312502820095_n.jpg?oh=df83a9191fc2ca7f0e8f64f2fb009bee&oe=5624E61A |
21:25.32 | Xho | Good question |
21:26.34 | Monet | Okay my brai nbroke |
21:26.36 | Ghel | The sword with the gun could shoot the gun in the gun more easily than the gun with the sword could shoot the sword in the gun, because the gun's gun is a bigger target than the gun's gun. |
21:26.43 | OluapPlayer_ | http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/310881/26354236/1435644076437/Asian-carp3.jpg?token=l6ubRfPAK%2FVkz16OXnQeASxudas%3D |
21:26.56 | Ghel | The same goes for the gun with the sword shooting the sword in the sword. |
21:27.11 | Ghel | So then you end up with broken sword with a gun against a broken gun with a sword. |
21:27.18 | Ghel | So I think the sword with the gun wins. |
21:27.24 | Monet | OluapPLayer_: The terror fro mbelow |
21:27.37 | Ghel | But both are defeated by the mighty carp. |
21:28.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Those bullets won't do jack as the carp is shielded by the water |
21:28.17 | OluapPlayer_ | And good luck hitting that with a sword in time |
21:28.42 | Monet | You can kill things in water |
21:28.44 | Ghel | Neither bullets nor swords can penetrate solid carp anyway. |
21:28.57 | OluapPlayer_ | I just got reminded of Dwarf Fortress' carp and how they were killing machines at one point |
21:29.12 | Monet | OluapPlayer_: I think that's the joke |
21:29.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Hard to tell since there are no dorfs |
21:30.05 | Ghel | Carp aren't that big. So the swimmer must be pretty small. |
21:31.11 | Monet | WHo can forget the sophisticated art of Redneck Fishing |
21:32.11 | Monet | The ancient art of shooting the contents of a 12-gauge into a river in the hopes of hitting something. |
21:34.20 | Ghel | Your chances are easier if you put the water and the fish into a barrel first. |
21:34.29 | Ghel | Then it's as easy as shooting fish in a barrel. |
21:34.30 | OluapPlayer_ | I heard once that bullets don't penetrate too much into the water |
21:34.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Don't know the veracity of it |
21:34.55 | Ghel | Water does exert a lot more drag than air, so they'll be slowed down more quickly. |
21:35.16 | Ghel | But I don't know how much so. |
21:35.30 | Hachiman | There are videos of it |
21:35.44 | Hachiman | Rendered in slow-motion as well |
21:41.37 | Xho | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ5OYtLUMAA1TWE.jpg:large This will be used as a reaction image in the future |
21:42.55 | OluapPlayer_ | describes u well |
21:48.02 | Xho | yeh |
21:48.06 | Xho | unfortunately |
21:50.07 | Xho | So apparently a pentaquark particle has been discovered |
21:52.08 | OluapPlayer_ | a wat now |
21:52.34 | Monet | Xho: Wormy beat you again lol |
21:52.38 | Ghel | It's three quarks. Then another quark. Then an antiquark to mix things up again. |
21:52.51 | Xho | blah |
21:54.26 | OluapPlayer_ | but dats 4-1 |
21:54.46 | Ghel | Then there's tetraquarks, which are two quarks and two antiquarks. |
21:55.06 | Ghel | Then it seems that there are also particles made of six quarks. No antiquarks. |
21:55.14 | Ghel | Are they called hexaquarks? No. |
21:55.21 | Ghel | Dibaryons. |
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21:59.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
22:00.27 | Ghel | Hello. |
22:02.56 | DrodoEmpire | test |
22:16.51 | Wormy_fiction | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Resources |
22:16.58 | Wormy_fiction | How its looking so far |
22:17.27 | Wormy_fiction | I'll leave practical application to someone else |
22:17.33 | DrodoEmpire | Good. What of Andasium? |
22:17.39 | DrodoEmpire | Or is that separate? |
22:17.44 | Wormy_fiction | Energy minerals I assume |
22:17.53 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
22:18.15 | Wormy_fiction | Andasium will belong in the database section i |
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22:57.10 | Wormy_fiction | Err. I seem to have made a real fucking mess http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/move |
22:57.30 | DrodoEmpire | Wait what |
22:57.33 | Wormy_fiction | I miss the old days when I could have just moved the damn thing. Wikia sucks at that. |
22:58.12 | Wormy_fiction | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:A_Glitch_that_Causes_Your_Space_Empire_to_Transform_into_the_First_Species_you_Met%3F |
22:58.15 | Wormy_fiction | now this exists |
22:58.21 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno, I know some dipshit restored the page with "LOLOLOLOL" as its content. Would that mess things up any? |
22:58.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
22:58.38 | Wormy_fiction | I saw, a vandal taking opportunity of my cock up |
23:02.31 | Wormy_fiction | Technobliterator: halp |
23:03.07 | Technobliterator | wat |
23:03.43 | Wormy_fiction | I thought if I could move it to the forum namespace, I would have the button to move it to a board. But it doesn't take the hisatory over and instead made this mess |
23:04.12 | Technobliterator | Why did you try and move it :o |
23:04.49 | Wormy_fiction | I was trying to be kind |
23:06.23 | Technobliterator | looks like...nothing is wrong with it now? ?___? |
23:06.56 | Wormy_fiction | No, but its created an empty redirect page to a user account that doesn't exist, and I can't delete it. |
23:07.15 | Wormy_fiction | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:A_Glitch_that_Causes_Your_Space_Empire_to_Transform_into_the_First_Species_you_Met%3F |
23:07.33 | Technobliterator | The best way is probably to contact Wikia |
23:07.42 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen Aeo |
23:07.43 | infobot | aeo <ad1367c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.19.103.199> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 3d 23h 5m 48s ago, saying: 'I suppose.'. |
23:08.05 | DrodoEmpire | He was on three days ago? I haven't seen him in quite some time. |
23:08.14 | Wormy_fiction | Arguably we could forget about it |
23:09.15 | Wormy_fiction | Actually it is an empty template |
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23:13.39 | Wormy_fiction | hi |
23:17.31 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: He's been mysteriously absent |
23:17.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah. :p |
23:17.52 | DrodoEmpire | Well to be fair he said he may not hang around for long |
23:20.23 | Hachiman | Looks like we drove him off |
23:20.55 | DrodoEmpire | Really? I didn't notice anyone being very hostile to him |
23:21.02 | DrodoEmpire | Not this time around anyway |
23:21.40 | Hachiman | I just do not think he can really stand being here hur |
23:21.54 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe not |
23:25.43 | Monet | I'm considering House Of the Unseen Hand might need a different tname but not much clue as to what. |
23:27.52 | Monet | "The Ambrosian Club"? |
23:28.45 | DrodoEmpire | What's this about? |
23:30.13 | Monet | I'm not sure if the name of the group mentioned has enough punch or ring to it |
23:33.59 | Monet | That and the current name feels a little too ominous |
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23:34.35 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
23:34.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
23:35.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
23:36.00 | Monet | Hi |
23:38.19 | DrodoEmpire | test |
23:38.47 | Hachiman | Monet: The Ambrosian Order, Ambrosian Syndicate |
23:39.02 | Hachiman | Or Ambrose / Hidden Syndicate |
23:39.14 | Monet | Ambrozian Order and AMbrose aare good ones. |
23:39.24 | Monet | Not every member's a crook after all. |
23:39.41 | Monet | A number of the members, even the inner circle, are legitimate entrepeneurs |
23:39.50 | Monet | Ooh! |
23:39.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
23:39.58 | Monet | The Ambrose Society? |
23:40.14 | AdmiralPanda | gonna go take my dog for a walk, back in probably an hour or so |
23:40.31 | DrodoEmpire | shrugs |
23:40.37 | DrodoEmpire | Sure |
23:40.38 | Wormy_ | Enjoy |
23:41.50 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.gyazo.com/bb8cfec1fdbd4a20cef9ac216ac8b7ef.png |
23:41.57 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
23:42.32 | OluapPlayer_ | olol |
23:44.15 | Monet | "The Ambrosan Society?" |
23:44.26 | Wormy_ | Oluap: http://i.imgur.com/vJsIh8w.jpg |
23:44.36 | Monet | Though I like Ambrose |
23:44.44 | DrodoEmpire | Either-or Monet |
23:46.44 | OluapPlayer_ | woof |
23:48.02 | Monet | Okay so my current thoughts are Ambrose Group, Ambrosan Order, Ambrose, Ambrose Society and Ambrosian Society. |
23:48.32 | Hachiman | Ambrosian Society is pretty good |
23:49.28 | DrodoEmpire | I like that too |
23:49.37 | DrodoEmpire | Though all of them sound close to this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ambrosian_Republic |
23:49.40 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
23:52.56 | Hachiman | By your statement, every civilisation with "republic", "empire", etc. in its name sounds too similar to an Earth state and cannot be used |
23:52.56 | Monet | Well the source is close |
23:53.16 | Monet | Actually he may have ben referring to the use of "Ambrosain" |
23:53.25 | DrodoEmpire | Uhm no |
23:53.29 | Monet | Though the Golden Ambrosian Republic was not on my mind |
23:53.35 | DrodoEmpire | "Ambrosan" -> "Ambrosian". |
23:53.44 | DrodoEmpire | Difference of one letter bud. |
23:53.54 | DrodoEmpire | Not a huge deal as the nation itself was very obscure |
23:53.57 | DrodoEmpire | But still |