| 00:01.48 | Hachiman | What is also quite impressive is that a group of Buddhist warrior-monks - the Ikko-Ikki - managed to resist a siege from the Oda military and their allies within the fortress of Hongan-ji for 11 YEARS |
| 00:02.13 | Hachiman | Note that the Ikko-Ikki were not Samurai; they were, otherwise, peasants |
| 00:02.44 | Monet | I call the Ikko Ikki castle having a secret vegetable garden. |
| 00:03.45 | Hachiman | They were the only non-Samurai faction to actually hold a province of their own amidst the other Samurai clans and, due to their nature as being a loose coalition of monasteries and such, had some degree of holding in other provinces |
| 00:04.43 | Hachiman | The Ikko-Ikki held out longer than any official Daimyo could |
| 00:06.30 | Hachiman | Which is why when Oda Nobunaga decided to assault an Ikko-Ikki fortress atop of Mt. Hiei, instead of attempting to lay siege to it as he had done with Hongan-ji, he had his men set the surrounding forests alight with flame which, soon enough, consumed the fortress |
| 00:07.19 | Hachiman | Upon evacuation efforts, Oda proceeded to have his soldiers slaughter any survivors that attempted to escape from the fortress as it was burning |
| 00:07.44 | Hachiman | Which is why you do not fuck with Oda Nobunaga hur |
| 00:07.59 | Monet | Oda Nobunaga - Fuk dis shit I can't be asked ot go though Hongan-ji again. Torch this dump! |
| 00:09.31 | Hachiman | And it was not just escaping soldiers that Oda had ordered to be killed - every man, woman, and child who attempted to escape the fortress was condemned to die |
| 00:10.02 | Monet | That guy was *pissed* |
| 00:10.25 | DrodoEmpire | That guy was a *war criminal*. :p |
| 00:10.30 | DrodoEmpire | But then again most were |
| 00:10.36 | DrodoEmpire | At that time |
| 00:10.36 | AdmiralPanda | Not according to the laws of the time :P |
| 00:10.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes I know |
| 00:11.17 | AdmiralPanda | I still love the fact that a samurai was allowed to outright kill any peasant who offended him without even needing to notify the authorities |
| 00:11.18 | Monet | He's a war criminal to the Hague. |
| 00:11.32 | AdmiralPanda | makes you wonder just how many murders went unsolved because a samurai did it and left |
| 00:11.37 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:11.39 | Monet | Unfortunately the Hague wasn't relevant unti lthe 1940s |
| 00:12.29 | Hachiman | After the incident with the ninja arquebusier, which was sent after him by his own brother-in-law whose clan betrayed the Oda, and the 11-year unsuccessful siege of Hongan-ji, along with the monks of Mt. Hiei - which was located practically inside of Kyoto, his most significant holding -, he had pretty justifiable reasons to be as pissed as he was |
| 00:13.32 | Hachiman | The slaughter at Mt. Hiei resulted in 20,000 people losing their lives |
| 00:14.21 | Hachiman | It is no real wonder why, despite being a major factor in the eventual unification of Japan, Oda Nobunaga is considered akin to a demon or a tyrant by some |
| 00:19.09 | Hachiman | It is rather funny that despite the mythology that Samurai were honourable figures, which may have been true for lower retainers, they were actually quite treacherous, paranoid, and backstabbing |
| 00:19.31 | Hachiman | And of course, Oda Nobunaga would be deemed a war criminal by modern standards |
| 00:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:19.40 | DrodoEmpire | (To the first and second) |
| 00:20.11 | AdmiralPanda | it was the shinobi and metsuke who were the most loyal people, and they were the ones doing all the work in the shadows :P |
| 00:20.18 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah that's unsurprising; They *were* human, after all. And with all humans at some point private interests supercede ideology and moral standards. :L |
| 00:20.44 | DrodoEmpire | Where depends on the person and what position they occupy |
| 00:21.21 | Monet | With power comes danger. |
| 00:21.53 | Hachiman | Yeah; the "ninja" were the most loyal and true figures of the Sengoku Jidai by comparison to the Samurai |
| 00:22.20 | DrodoEmpire | And really any warrior code is a lot like a religion; many people may claim to follow or adhere to it but very few will actually live up to the standards described within. |
| 00:22.47 | Monet | It is less dangerous to your health to be chivalrous in the daimyo's great hall than on the battlefield. |
| 00:23.34 | Hachiman | Similar, if not identical, case with the knightly orders of Europe though |
| 00:24.05 | Monet | AYe |
| 00:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:24.45 | Hachiman | Records state that knights liked to abuse their power |
| 00:25.42 | Monet | Oh yeah. |
| 00:25.46 | DrodoEmpire | Both orders were extremely formidable warriors but both orders also had their share of morally bankrupt people. |
| 00:25.57 | Monet | A lot of them were basically thugs with land. |
| 00:26.01 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:26.59 | Monet | The whole idea of knights i nshining armour were either the ideal concocted by the peasantry or were made widespread by 17+th century romanticism. |
| 00:27.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:27.47 | DrodoEmpire | Granted they had shining armour... Like really some specimens from the 14th and 15th centuries are absolutely stunning |
| 00:27.51 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah |
| 00:30.55 | AdmiralPanda | In fairness there were knights who lived up to the standards of their orders, but most of them were the non-land-owning kind who actually cared half a damn |
| 00:33.41 | Hachiman | hur |
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| 00:53.32 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Living_Ancients for anyone interested |
| 00:53.53 | DrodoEmpire | hugs Monet |
| 01:04.51 | Wormy-STO | Hachiman: I still find this hard to get my head over http://i.imgur.com/sSCIhS3.gif |
| 01:05.07 | TekDroid | Monet: Damnit, now I need to write mt |
| 01:05.15 | TekDroid | *my precursor stuff |
| 01:05.24 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: O.O |
| 01:05.42 | TekDroid | Only skimmed it, but looks good |
| 01:05.54 | Monet | TekDroid: No rush. Doesn't have to be precursor-precursor |
| 01:05.56 | Hachiman | The Tsar Bomba holy shit |
| 01:06.02 | TekDroid | aye. |
| 01:07.53 | Wormy-STO | Fireball 5 km wide (or miles, can't remember), but third degree burns at 60 km. Windows shatterted 1000km away with a shockwave detected around the Earth 3 times. The fireball never hit the ground due to the shockwave it created, and it had contributed to 40% of all nuclear fallout I think |
| 01:08.03 | Monet | The "Alien Article Analysis" section may not appeal to everyone but every section is free t oeb added to. |
| 01:08.19 | Monet | Tomorrow I might add the first page's interrogation. |
| 01:08.28 | Wormy-STO | The pilots barely escaped |
| 01:09.25 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: If you don't mind I *may* add something from around the same time as the Drodo encounter. |
| 01:10.07 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: If you do give me a minute, reformatting that section now |
| 01:12.57 | Technobliterator | How is GXS coming along? |
| 01:13.06 | Technobliterator | I haven't had a chance to use UNO in it |
| 01:13.20 | DrodoEmpire | Charles has been away for a bit so its progress has been slow I believe |
| 01:13.37 | Monet | Okay the page is now more accomodating to show Autopsies, interrogations and tech studies. |
| 01:15.08 | Monet | Technobliterator: There's been some movement |
| 01:15.18 | Monet | But the best option might be to see where we can fit UNO into what we've done |
| 01:15.27 | Technobliterator | Sure |
| 01:15.37 | Technobliterator | UNO are allied with the DCP |
| 01:16.01 | Technobliterator | They act independently of the PCA, though, as UNO are the only PCA member involved |
| 01:17.27 | TekDroid | Monet: Slight note, you say subject 022137 was found alongside subject 022137. :P |
| 01:18.36 | Monet | Should be 8 heh |
| 01:20.36 | Wormy-STO | Paste in "1000000000" klotons to get the estimated Chicxulub impact http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/classic/ |
| 01:20.53 | Technobliterator | As far as I know, other than Fog War rewrite, GXS is the only thing I'm involved in |
| 01:21.18 | Wormy-STO | Actually "100000000000" |
| 01:23.31 | Monet | Datonated it at CanCun |
| 01:23.34 | Monet | Cancun |
| 01:24.56 | Wormy-STO | The thermal pulse must have been enough to cause wildfiles everywhere |
| 01:24.56 | Monet | The eastern Indian Ocean is apparently the only region on Earth not hit by the meteor's thermal radiation |
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| 01:26.01 | TekDroid | I tried it in Toronto. decimated most of North America except California and Vancouver, burned everything except Western Australia |
| 01:26.23 | AdmiralPanda | Not much there to burn anyway |
| 01:26.59 | Monet | The air blast would have obliterated the Gulf of Mexico |
| 01:27.07 | Monet | And most of CUba |
| 01:27.41 | Monet | All of Jamaica, apparently Guantanamo survives |
| 01:28.23 | Wormy-STO | Pieces of molten crust would have been flung into orbit to rain back down even on the far side |
| 01:28.27 | Monet | Wel lactually no |
| 01:28.37 | Monet | If the air blast is factored in... |
| 01:29.27 | Monet | Everything south of the Canadian Border and everythign north of Brazil gets blown down |
| 01:30.15 | TekDroid | I managed to make one that only destroys Canada. D: |
| 01:30.38 | TekDroid | Try it with that number in Resolute |
| 01:30.43 | Monet | I dropped it on ROme |
| 01:31.16 | Monet | If the Chixulub Meteor had landed on the future site of Rome, the only place not set alight is New Zealand |
| 01:31.38 | TekDroid | Or try it in Alert if you hate Canada and Scandinavia |
| 01:33.27 | TekDroid | Beijing kills everything except Chile, Argentina and Uruguay. And the Falklands, poor Argentina |
| 01:34.37 | Monet | Argentina - INVADE! |
| 01:34.52 | Monet | Argentina - *reclaims Falklands because no more UK* |
| 01:35.32 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:35.53 | TekDroid | UK - Sorry chaps, we moved in permanently |
| 01:36.39 | OfficerJackal | http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/12/8940067/satoru-iwata-nintendo-dies - damn |
| 01:37.10 | Monet | That's not going to help Nintendo's stocks. |
| 01:37.22 | TekDroid | O.O |
| 01:37.50 | TekDroid | He just did E3 last month... wow. |
| 01:38.24 | Monet | Just looked |
| 01:38.57 | Monet | Nintendo's stocks took a 1000 Yen nosedive.this morning |
| 01:40.18 | Monet | In the space of half an hour they dreopped from 20,285 to 19,390 |
| 01:41.47 | Monet | That's a 4.5% price drop |
| 01:45.22 | Wormy_ | 55 is way too young |
| 01:45.25 | Monet | That much of a drop in half an hour is...dast |
| 01:45.33 | Monet | fast* |
| 01:47.54 | Monet | THis news is pretty heavy |
| 01:49.02 | TekDroid | Definitely |
| 01:50.26 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/VoylY6D |
| 01:51.43 | Monet | Goodnight |
| 01:52.19 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ghDtl |
| 01:52.29 | Wormy_ | goodnight/morning |
| 01:54.13 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire http://i.imgur.com/98vdxvU.png |
| 01:54.31 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
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| 08:34.32 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 08:38.54 | AdmiralPanda | Liquid_Ink: So Abbott has confirmed he's a twat |
| 08:39.02 | AdmiralPanda | as in, publicly admitted it |
| 08:41.25 | Liquid_Ink | Oh? |
| 08:44.19 | Liquid_Ink | Well. |
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| 08:45.04 | AdmiralPanda | internet derped |
| 08:45.47 | AdmiralPanda | as I was saying, those two countries between them have approximately the same population and similar energy demands to Australia, and are able to generate ~110% and ~140% of their gross energy needs purely through renewable energy |
| 08:46.04 | AdmiralPanda | but we have more landmass available for solar and wind generation |
| 08:46.49 | AdmiralPanda | in the meantime, Abbott is like "let's cut our government-run corporation created to develop renewable technologies" |
| 08:52.51 | AdmiralPanda | long story short, stupid government is stupid |
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| 08:58.47 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah, I heard about that. I wished Labour could actually scooch a little to the left rather than being LNP-lite |
| 09:02.33 | AdmiralPanda | I wish the lot of them would stop being twits, quit office and let someone competent take over |
| 09:03.05 | Liquid_Ink | Next election I hope Labour gets it but Shorten loses his seat. |
| 09:03.15 | AdmiralPanda | ^ |
| 09:03.23 | Liquid_Ink | And I want The Greens to get a bigger presence in both houses. |
| 09:03.30 | Liquid_Ink | I'm a Greens man. :3 |
| 09:03.38 | AdmiralPanda | What is wrong with you? |
| 09:03.48 | AdmiralPanda | Well actually you're ok, it's just the greens who are crazy |
| 09:04.21 | AdmiralPanda | ultimately what we need is another, proper National party |
| 09:04.28 | Liquid_Ink | Well, I've only been of voting age for one election, which was the Queensland state election |
| 09:04.47 | AdmiralPanda | not big enough to make policy on its own, but big enough to veto stupid policy |
| 09:04.58 | Liquid_Ink | Which my electorate had only three choices; Greens, ALP, and LNP. And I voted in that order. |
| 09:05.30 | AdmiralPanda | ok on the state level the greens are ok, but they've got some real nut jobs at the national level |
| 09:06.40 | Liquid_Ink | I wished the Democrats were still alive |
| 09:07.34 | AdmiralPanda | honestly, and forgive any snarkyness, that's basically like saying music would be fixed if Freddie Mercury were still alive |
| 09:08.05 | Liquid_Ink | ..? |
| 09:08.21 | AdmiralPanda | the problem we have currently is we don't have the basic system that served Australia so well for so long: mildly conservative party, mildly liberal party, neutral party that tells the other two not to be twats |
| 09:08.34 | AdmiralPanda | doesn't matter what names those parties have |
| 09:08.46 | Liquid_Ink | Indeed |
| 09:13.42 | AdmiralPanda | that and, I dunno, replace the Sergeant at Arms with a koala |
| 09:13.45 | AdmiralPanda | that'd liven things up |
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| 12:57.50 | Wormy_ | http://www.businessinsider.com/the-ticking-time-bomb-at-the-bottom-of-the-baltic-sea-2013-11?IR=T |
| 13:13.12 | Monet | Wormy_: The dangers of "out of sight, out of mind" |
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| 13:15.24 | Wormy_ | I get the impression they weren't thinking about us in the future |
| 13:19.13 | Monet | The article puts the SOviets as mroe at fault |
| 13:19.44 | Monet | They didn't exactly have a great environmental track record. |
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| 13:22.57 | Monet | Wormy__: [14:18] <Monet> The article puts the SOviets as mroe at fault [14:18] <Monet> They didn't exactly have a great environmental track record. |
| 13:23.02 | Monet | But I see you're point. |
| 13:23.06 | Monet | your* |
| 13:24.18 | Wormy__ | indeed |
| 13:26.47 | Dogerios | Monet: Seen our new addition to Fog War? |
| 13:28.08 | Monet | Dogerios: I commented o nit yesterday |
| 13:29.54 | Monet | Shu'ytro certianly knew how to screw with both his mind and his heart. |
| 13:30.03 | Monet | And his confidance |
| 13:31.22 | Monet | Also I liked the meta-reference of no one really knowing Kagu'sai was Reta'nyan's predacessor. |
| 13:34.50 | Monet | I keep forgetting, Sheopatia's one of the Anointed isn't she? |
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| 13:41.46 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 13:44.00 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:44.23 | OluapPlayer | ~kick Hachiman |
| 13:44.23 | infobot | ACTION kicks Hachiman |
| 13:44.56 | Dogerios | Unlikely |
| 13:45.11 | Dogerios | But she plays to their plans in a way |
| 13:45.35 | Hachiman | So apparently the rate of attendance to Church and other religious services has been on a significant decline since 1994, dropping from 62% of Americans to 53% of Americans |
| 13:45.49 | Hachiman | As of 2014 |
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| 13:48.24 | Monet | Hachiman: an 11% drop over a 20 year period might be gradual, but it is indeed significant. |
| 13:48.27 | OluapPlayer | I was going to suggest the nightmare to bad enough for the Anointed to feel but your connection was so bad yesterday I didn't want to make it take any longer |
| 13:50.33 | Monet | Hachiman: I recall in 2014 the pledge of alliegence had come under fire from atheists after one 11 eyar old refused to recite it and was reprimanded by his teacher for it. |
| 13:51.20 | Hachiman | Religion is still a significant aspect to American society in many regions and states] |
| 13:53.04 | Monet | Although the issue with the pledge is that Atheists are critical of the words "one nation under God", yet because they refuse to recite the thing it gets treated by press and public as "Un-American" |
| 13:55.17 | Hachiman | Personally I feel that the Pledge of Allegiance should not be taken so literally when it comes to that verse |
| 13:57.03 | Hachiman | The worship or reverence of God is something that many Americans have in common - a shared value despite the factions that have arisen from American civil conflict |
| 13:58.56 | Hachiman | So in the modern age, I like to envision that rather than it being a statement of religious prominence, it is aimed more towards an ideological aspect - a symbol that nearly all Americans recognise, respect, and follow no matter their allegiance to any inter-American organisation |
| 14:00.31 | Monet | I'v eonce considered before that God is a way of explaining communal beliefs or the inter-personal mindset. |
| 14:01.58 | Monet | For example all those Superbowl 2014 fans who prayed to God to let their team win. They were wishing for victory, and God was a collective personification of the desire of thousands of Football fans. |
| 14:02.32 | Monet | So yeah, in a way, perhaps God is a symbol of society. |
| 14:07.26 | Vincent20100 | We had the same problem in Canada to about a similar pledge |
| 14:07.59 | Vincent20100 | Supreme Court ruled that it wasn't necessary to pronounce the last line "May God assist me" |
| 14:09.05 | Monet | It kind-of feels wierd that the "God is society" idea came from me contemplating at the altar of St. Thomas Beckett not long after having an argument with some fundamentalist online at the idea that all the great scientific discoveries were bestowed to their inventors by the hand of God. |
| 14:10.18 | Dogerios | American work ethic is based on their Protestant values so hey it could make some semse |
| 14:10.53 | Dogerios | *it makes some sense for them to be devout |
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| 14:15.30 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 14:18.52 | AdmiralPanda | It makes perfect sense for old constitutional documents to include some religious aspect because people were religious back then |
| 14:19.18 | AdmiralPanda | on the subject of attendance rates, if you think that's big Australia had a >30% drop :P |
| 14:26.25 | Dogerios | We have a rise hur |
| 14:27.10 | Hachiman | I still disagree with the idea behind churches not having to contribute to taxes |
| 14:28.03 | Dogerios | Our attendance rate has tripled over the last two decades |
| 14:28.07 | Dogerios | Apparently |
| 14:28.17 | Vincent20100 | lol I just checked Quebec attendance: les than 6%... |
| 14:28.42 | Hachiman | I mean I know that it is a beneficial element to keep faith and state separate but it is dumb that religious sites do not have to pay what other people do |
| 14:29.57 | Hachiman | Also it should be noted that the "under God" part of the Pledge of Allegiance was not actually included in the Pledge until the 1950s |
| 14:30.16 | Vincent20100 | Even though it was originnally wrote by a pastor |
| 14:30.26 | Hachiman | While the Pledge was originally devised in the early 1890s |
| 14:34.35 | Monet | The clause in charities being tax-free organisations was to minimise the operating costs and a need for a financial bsae. While also protecting them from government exploitation. |
| 14:34.42 | Monet | Unfortunately now its the other way round. |
| 14:35.12 | Monet | These charities seem to suck up money while giving less to the government that supports them. |
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| 15:52.31 | OluapPlayer | ~slap Cyrannian |
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| 15:54.35 | OluapPlayer | The updates on Kara's page have nasty implications |
| 15:54.52 | OluapPlayer | Most specifically she sounds like she enjoys being molested by Gorf |
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| 15:58.10 | dino82_ | hi everyone |
| 16:00.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hey dino |
| 16:09.49 | dino82_ | hi drodo |
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| 16:18.27 | LuxorPL | Hey huys |
| 16:18.31 | LuxorPL | *Guys. |
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| 17:00.32 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:01.43 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 17:02.11 | Xho | u |
| 17:04.41 | Pastarios | Hi Xho |
| 17:07.01 | Monet | Hello |
| 17:07.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 17:07.31 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 17:16.45 | Wormy_ | I wonder what the Batman vs. Superman film will be like |
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| 17:27.11 | Wormy_ | http://seeplutonow.com/ |
| 17:27.18 | Wormy_ | 18 hours |
| 17:27.45 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 17:28.09 | Wormy_ | Lay people may think of Pluto as the edge, but its the beginning of a new frontier |
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| 17:32.45 | Hachiman | Fucking internet |
| 17:32.53 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Yes. With the Voyagers, the eight major planets had been explored. With probes like Rosetta, Dawn and New Horizons, we start to look at the endless variety of the minor planets. |
| 17:33.18 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 17:33.52 | Wormy_ | I myself found the moons of the Gas Giants as interesting as the planets, that was also a step forward in exploration. |
| 17:34.59 | Wormy_ | I'm open minded about the existence of planet sized objects at least the size of Mars as well. |
| 17:38.51 | Wormy_ | There may even be objects foreign to our solar system that were captured in the outer solar system, but possibly at distances not reached in our lifetime. Certainly comets anyway |
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| 18:06.02 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 18:06.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Hachi |
| 18:08.09 | Monet | hi |
| 18:15.57 | Pastarios | Hi |
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| 18:42.04 | Monet | A TV tropes binge got me thinking. |
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| 18:43.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 18:43.11 | Monet | I might consider writing somewhere that there are a number of frontier worlds in the Do that consider the inhabitants of the corward worlds as almost insufferably arrogent. |
| 18:43.18 | Monet | DI* |
| 18:43.47 | Monet | This might also count for the more middling planets. |
| 18:44.29 | Monet | Insufferably wealthy and arrogent, who might not know the hardships even though a number of these corward worlds do support agrarian communities. |
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| 18:47.56 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 18:48.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hello again |
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| 18:49.32 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:50.32 | Monet | Seems unlikely that a rural world would not have a similar perception of Araveene as most of Iowa would have to New York CIty. |
| 18:51.08 | Monet | THen again this being the DI the rural palnet's rednecks would be less ignorant heh. |
| 18:53.05 | Monet | THat or just less ignorant where it matters. |
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| 19:02.05 | Monet | Like, a farmer on the fringes of a Mathist colony could build a coilgun out of homemade parts, fix the magnetic drive on a skycar and tell you all sorts of things regarding genetics. But the infrastructure of Araveene seems like arcane magic to him. |
| 19:02.33 | DrodoEmpire | Probably |
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| 19:04.35 | Monet | Such a guy might even be a hobbyist genetic engineer |
| 19:04.38 | Monet | Hello |
| 19:06.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
| 19:06.21 | drom | Hello |
| 19:08.52 | drom | I try to imagine the scenarios/cases for NS in The Living Ancients, anyone got an idea? |
| 19:08.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 19:09.00 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
| 19:09.23 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo are in general available for a contact scenario. It depends somewhat though |
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| 19:10.05 | drom | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/qVfhQWh.webm |
| 19:10.18 | Xho | rekt |
| 19:12.18 | drom | DrodoEmpire TekDroid Vincent20100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwh0lBPHg9o |
| 19:14.29 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 19:14.44 | Wormy_ | "Everybody's a wanner", "Don't worry" |
| 19:14.48 | Wormy_ | meme this |
| 19:16.18 | drom | Pastarios: http://i.imgur.com/sYLlK6X.png |
| 19:17.19 | Pastarios | Danes |
| 19:17.23 | Pastarios | Watchudoing |
| 19:22.14 | Wormy_ | I dunno why but I think of Pluto has being a colony of Russia one day. |
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| 19:22.37 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps |
| 19:27.22 | drom | I guess that NS is also up for pre-2800 interaction, but keep in mind that it isn't the same thing as we today meeting or sighting aliens |
| 19:36.03 | Monet | drom: How so? |
| 19:37.20 | drom | well, NS is ~125 000 years old |
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| 19:38.24 | LuxorPL | Ahoy guys |
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| 19:40.41 | Wormy_ | Hello |
| 19:41.00 | LuxorPL | Wormy ya had a bad night, didnt ya |
| 19:41.31 | Wormy_ | Nope, I'm rather resistant to hang overs, unless I drink spirits. |
| 19:41.47 | LuxorPL | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr9O0uR4-Kw |
| 19:42.08 | Monet | drom: 125,000 years old but not sure of the issue. Unless you refer to how the NS are sighted |
| 19:45.00 | Wormy_ | So, regarding minerals and resources project. Are we thinking of establishing an article for this stuff? |
| 19:45.16 | LuxorPL | It will be much work to do. |
| 19:45.31 | Wormy_ | I have some ideas for the page. |
| 19:45.40 | LuxorPL | The fact is, that every mineral needs description. |
| 19:46.02 | LuxorPL | And further on, it will take too much time to do every single on alone, so we could group them and add on pages. |
| 19:46.45 | LuxorPL | Or, we could do a page similiar in construction to reported bugs page. |
| 19:46.53 | LuxorPL | Sorted minerals. |
| 19:46.57 | LuxorPL | With tabs, of course. |
| 19:47.18 | LuxorPL | Gosh, gotta leave now. |
| 19:47.24 | LuxorPL | I'll show up tomorrow, cya! |
| 19:47.25 | Wormy_ | Well, the article could be mostly about resources, how they are extracted and processed, the many sci-fi ways of doing it, and the transition to the era of quantum replication. And then the types of minerals could be in a database, arranged via minerology clasiffication. |
| 19:47.40 | LuxorPL | Yup, but every single needs description. |
| 19:47.52 | LuxorPL | This will need further discussion, maybe a bit earlier. |
| 19:47.54 | Wormy_ | Use of tabbers perhaps |
| 19:48.07 | LuxorPL | So once again, cya guys. I'm gonna show up tomorrow at 21. |
| 19:48.11 | Wormy_ | Bye |
| 19:51.57 | drom | Monet: Ah, it makes sense now |
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| 19:56.21 | Pastarios | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://www.mrctv.org/blog/taxpayers-continue-spend-millions-find-out-why-lesbians-are-fat#.jorugf:33UC |
| 19:56.43 | OluapPlayer | Alright then |
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| 20:01.40 | Wormy_ | God knows what Google's Machine Learning cloud thing thinks I am frommaccidently clicking these links |
| 20:03.05 | Ghel | Confusing algorithms should be what you live for, Wormy. |
| 20:06.19 | Wormy_ | drom: https://www.facebook.com/HellaflushRC/videos/793569714092703/ |
| 20:10.28 | drom | Pfhahah |
| 20:10.42 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.32 | Ghel | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.40 | drom | Techno: I tried programming a wiki software in back-end Dart, it is doing great so far. But I need however understand its standard libraries and how HTTP requests work. |
| 20:12.01 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.13 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:14.38 | drom | Techno: Also, you should try using Dart! |
| 20:16.10 | dino82_ | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ea/Nthavo_Xellunaion.png/revision/latest?cb=20150713201101 Wow! |
| 20:17.13 | drom | wot |
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| 20:18.30 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 20:18.32 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 20:22.12 | Pastarios | OluapPlayer: Alright there IS a chance I will be gone for another 2 weeks a day or two after returning to Russia, so I think we should try to do as much fiction as we can before that moment |
| 20:22.20 | Pastarios | Not sure yet though |
| 20:22.25 | OluapPlayer | y u do dis to me |
| 20:22.30 | Pastarios | I can RP here |
| 20:22.45 | Pastarios | In fact I will have plenty of time this week |
| 20:22.57 | Hachiman | Based on how long it took you to complete one short RP, I doubt that |
| 20:23.39 | Pastarios | I can make a solo section tomorrow and then we can try the battle for the Bonio homeworld |
| 20:23.48 | OluapPlayer | Alright |
| 20:23.48 | Pastarios | The day after that I mean |
| 20:24.01 | dino82_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Lost_in_Space |
| 20:24.07 | Pastarios | Hachiman: I figured out how to write fast on a tablet now |
| 20:24.09 | OluapPlayer | My main concern is the fact you spend more time disconnecting than writing |
| 20:24.28 | Pastarios | The connection is better during the day |
| 20:24.43 | Pastarios | I will try to find time between noon and dinner |
| 20:24.46 | dino82_ | something new I am starting, don't know when it will end or how it will work, a little project of mine. In due time I hope to encoutner various races or planets in the Endless Void, the space between the galaxies as the Rambo reffer it and perhaps they can entounter species of other users |
| 20:24.50 | dino82_ | or something like that |
| 20:25.18 | Hachiman | I did not think there was stuff between the spaces of galaxies |
| 20:25.31 | Cyrannian | Traces of the Xeranbha may also be seen |
| 20:25.38 | Hachiman | That is literally thousands of light years of almost nothingness hur |
| 20:25.40 | Monet | There might be the very odd rogue planet or star |
| 20:25.49 | drom | dino82_: Nice effects on that infobox image |
| 20:25.51 | dino82_ | yeah! Something unusual or so |
| 20:25.54 | Pastarios | Hachiman: Radeons lived there before 2012 |
| 20:25.58 | dino82_ | who knows, the possibilities are endless :P |
| 20:26.14 | OluapPlayer | That's one reason it opens room for fiction |
| 20:26.15 | dino82_ | @drom: thanks :D It was premade ath te spore wikia page, didn't knew that either |
| 20:26.22 | dino82_ | Oh have to leave again, bye bye |
| 20:26.40 | Cyrannian | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/87/Ikiwa_Eropsii.png/revision/latest?cb=20100418162109 - I remember when Imp made this. Is it still canon in your fiction? |
| 20:26.40 | OluapPlayer | Primogius aka Errr's base in the Fog War is located in the void between galaxies |
| 20:26.44 | Cyrannian | Bye! |
| 20:26.46 | dino82_ | @oluap: indeed, new fiction and unseen, left alone from the events of the rest of the galaxies |
| 20:26.47 | OluapPlayer | Which galaxies I'm not sure |
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| 20:27.31 | Pastarios | Hachiman: Radeons lived between galaxies before 2012 |
| 20:27.40 | Pastarios | Why would you do this to me |
| 20:27.58 | OluapPlayer | They were hipsters |
| 20:28.13 | OluapPlayer | "oh we don't live in a galaxy, we live in the nowhere between them" |
| 20:28.48 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Fiction_Universe/Intergalactic_Rifts is the link. |
| 20:29.25 | Pastarios | My intention if my memory does not fail me was to make them the sort of intermediary between intergalactic trade like the Arabs and the Persians were on the Silk Road |
| 20:29.51 | Pastarios | So you travel between galaxies = Radeons squeeze you out of your money |
| 20:30.57 | OluapPlayer | Radeon - THIS IS THE SHORTEST WAY GOY ALSO CHECK THIS GEAR |
| 20:33.16 | drom | Radeon - Also don't forget the bazillion debts |
| 20:34.09 | Pastarios | Radermany |
| 20:34.17 | Pastarios | " Masaari outposts and Spodist colonies are nearly everywhere here, and many of them prefer to tax travelling ships (exception is Masaari (no taxes) and their allies (reduced ones)), angering travelers." |
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| 20:35.49 | Hachiman | They sound like a bunch of dicks hur |
| 20:36.16 | Pastarios | Radeons were never nice hur |
| 20:36.18 | drom | Pastarios: Radeon - Remove Borealibab |
| 20:36.32 | Pastarios | "Strangely, there are many large, light-eating creatres even in open space. Matalix is example. It is huge golden creature which can regenerate any damage done to it. Their structures were once used in the Radeon spaceships, but now they are replaced by Riftmatter." |
| 20:36.49 | Pastarios | >It is huge golden creature |
| 20:36.58 | Pastarios | Behold my excellent descriptive skills |
| 20:38.09 | Monet | Draconis - Yeah! *discreetly hides Gatway Travel policies behind his back* |
| 20:38.13 | Pastarios | Admittedly the idea that Radeons used to make ships out of the bodies of spacefaring organisms is... neat |
| 20:38.40 | Monet | Old Impy is greatest IMpy |
| 20:38.53 | drom | Impy being Impy |
| 20:39.00 | drom | Imperious |
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| 20:39.48 | Wormy_ | ~seen Ghelae |
| 20:39.50 | infobot | ghelae <05970051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.151.0.81> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 3h 6m 57s ago, saying: 'Wormy_: Yes. With the Voyagers, the eight major planets had been explored. With probes like Rosetta, Dawn and New Horizons, we start to look at the endless variety of the minor planets.'. |
| 20:39.56 | Wormy_ | ~seen Ghel |
| 20:39.56 | infobot | ghel <05970051@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.151.0.81> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 11m 8s ago, saying: 'http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Fiction_Universe/Intergalactic_Rifts is the link.'. |
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| 20:40.06 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Girdo_Humanoid - why am I better at finishing pages when I'm supposed to have work to do than when I have nothing to do? It's not even like I'm doing it to procrastinate at this time of night. |
| 20:40.15 | Wormy_ | Did you just lose IRC connection? |
| 20:40.16 | drom | Anyway. Speaking of ships, I imagine that Nomatarians are minimalist about their own designs, so you can see a primitive tin can to a ship being a tough power pack. |
| 20:40.18 | Monet | Massari Spacer = Pay the toll! |
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| 20:40.30 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 20:40.44 | Wormy_ | Seems there was an IRC outage |
| 20:40.50 | Ghel | Yes, I did lose connection about five minutes ago. |
| 20:40.56 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:41.05 | drom | Nemas problemas |
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| 20:42.15 | drom | I welcome back our only and glorious imperious Sporewikian, Dogerios! |
| 20:44.17 | Hachiman | Hm if I was gonna make a region in the Fantasyverse that was gonna equate to a Sea of Sand version of what Qliphoth is to the Tropical Lands, I may have to call it Cydonia hur |
| 20:46.49 | drom | Dogerios: Can we take a quick discussion about the relations between NTA and NS prior the NS' engagement in the GXS. |
| 20:46.51 | drom | ? |
| 20:48.07 | drom | blah |
| 20:50.29 | drom | I'm supposed to prepare myself for a new day at my job, but I don't want to go to sleep yet as I want to revamp the Nomatarians' model hur |
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| 20:51.40 | drom | my mindset as simplified, work > rest |
| 20:59.24 | Wormy_ | Is it bad I think these new car designs are ugly as fuck? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xhUSTJvlY |
| 20:59.51 | Wormy_ | EverythingIsAnIpod to the extreme |
| 21:02.36 | Wormy_ | I like cyberpunk tech design aesthetics, or Second Golden Age aesthetics |
| 21:09.59 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: I found a sci-fi short film http://www.dezeen.com/2012/03/09/the-golden-age-somewhere-by-paul-nicholls/ |
| 21:10.13 | Wormy_ | I imagine DCP cities, morph into weird shapes like that |
| 21:11.47 | Wormy_ | What if your dog needs a pee in the holodeck? |
| 21:20.31 | Wormy_ | "humans will never be killed by driverless cars" codswallop |
| 21:21.06 | Wormy_ | If I was to jump in front of a driverless car, I don't care how advanced it is, unless it can read my mind it'd be run me over |
| 21:21.36 | Wormy_ | And if the car could dead stop, unless it had inertial dampners too, it may injur or kill the passengers |
| 21:22.40 | MonetAway | Well...these are the products of design students |
| 21:22.50 | Ghel | Obviously driverless cars with warp drives (limited to <100 mph of course) would allow such death-avoidance to occur. |
| 21:23.16 | Ghel | Realistically, yes, describing anything as being perfectly safe and harmless is hyperbole. |
| 21:24.34 | MonetAway | ALthough I'd say prof. Harrow has a point |
| 21:24.38 | Wormy_ | I just hope it doesn't lead to driving being banned |
| 21:24.48 | MonetAway | these students are reinventing what a car can be used for |
| 21:25.36 | Monet | Back in 2002 I don't know how many peopel imagiend being able to browse the internet or use Facebook by using a phone. |
| 21:25.45 | Monet | Or even watch movies |
| 21:26.22 | Wormy_ | Perhaps design the car to take over if the driver makes a mistalke or falls asleep is better |
| 21:26.41 | Ghel | Given that a lot of people, and I assume politicians are no different in that respect, enjoy driving, and also the fact that there is a possibilities that emergencies will occur in which driving is necessary (e.g. if driverless cars are not be available), I doubt driving woud be outlawed for a very long time. |
| 21:26.50 | Wormy_ | I have a fear that if we automate everything we do, we will lose our brains |
| 21:27.13 | Ghel | In a few generations' time when driverless cars become ubiquitous and most people have grown up without ever touching a steering wheel, things might be different. |
| 21:28.27 | Ghel | As long as people can still express their creativity I also don't think there's any chance of us losing our brains. Although we many end up with some capacities being atrophied. |
| 21:28.51 | Monet | I've seen suggestions that drivers might still be eeded for health and safety reasons |
| 21:29.23 | Ghel | Just think of all the ancient skills for surviving in pre-industrial times that we don't need to use in our modern world. But those abilities can still be regained as long as the knowledge exists. |
| 21:29.26 | Wormy_ | Could explain why the Asgard in SG1 couldn't figure out how to invent low-tech weapons to fight the Replicators |
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| 21:30.30 | Monet | "what if we created a tube that fired a solid projectile down it to hurt things?" "Naaaah" |
| 21:30.33 | Wormy_ | True, if we had more free time, our brains become better at intellectual and creative pursuits |
| 21:31.40 | Wormy_ | meanwhile our limbs and bodies shrink |
| 21:31.54 | Wormy_ | and become sluggish |
| 21:32.20 | Wormy_ | Maybe we will resemble Greys then |
| 21:32.48 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao? |
| 21:33.48 | Ghel | That was the idea behind H. G. Wells' Martians. |
| 21:34.28 | Ghel | Might as well get rid of the limbs entirely and replace them with prehensile fingers suited to pressing buttons. |
| 21:34.46 | Wormy_ | Or clapping the air |
| 21:34.51 | Monet | But I like muh butt-sticks. |
| 21:34.58 | Wormy_ | When utility fog is developed |
| 21:35.28 | Ghel | Then we upload ourselves to utility fog and we can have whatever limbs we like. |
| 21:35.36 | Ghel | Prehensile fingers, butt-sticks, or anything else. |
| 21:35.48 | Wormy_ | I'd rather that be the case. |
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| 21:35.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Charles |
| 21:36.07 | Monet | hello |
| 21:36.13 | Charles_Bot | Hey! |
| 21:36.31 | Charles_Bot | I no longer have access to my computer :( |
| 21:36.38 | DrodoEmpire | How come? |
| 21:36.55 | Charles_Bot | Spilled water on it, we're drying it out now. |
| 21:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 21:37.22 | Charles_Bot | It still works just fine, though drying out the insides is still very necessary. |
| 21:37.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah definitely |
| 21:37.35 | Monet | BZZTKaboom! |
| 21:37.38 | Wormy_ | http://api.ning.com/files/I42XTNTqoU0m-MVrepR89YBiPGdWkxEDc-z0bqcPMRSEEk-ZJRwdBFOYXtyrKW0ViYzCg00yuM8RH6m9kC5fkbr8BwOr-zMd/future_human.jpg |
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| 21:39.43 | Monet | Pretty sure that's a joke |
| 21:39.45 | Wormy_ | http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/929jackfm.com/files/2012/10/future-us-630x558.jpg |
| 21:39.57 | Wormy_ | seen a few people with faces like them already |
| 21:40.36 | DrodoEmpire | I doubt change that drastic will come within a single millenia. Not without significant "nudging-along". |
| 21:40.41 | Monet | ALs oI think there might be some misinformation regarding our brains getting smaller. |
| 21:41.36 | Wormy_ | No, I think it is true, we lost a small portion that was useful for hunter-gathering, though we are not any less smart |
| 21:41.59 | Ghel | Still you basically shouldn't trust tabloids to report any kind of reliable science. |
| 21:42.12 | Monet | I'm wondering if the proper statement is that our brains are getting smaller in proportion to our bodies. |
| 21:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:42.49 | Monet | In Europe and North America, 6ft is becoming a benchmark height for males. |
| 21:43.00 | Monet | adult males* |
| 21:43.06 | Wormy_ | But its entirely possible our brains could atrophy... Its been thought that such a thing could happen on generational starships, with maintenance kept up non-intelligently as a hive system maintained by mating displays and so on. |
| 21:43.24 | Monet | That's gigantic considering that 5ft 5in was the norm i nthe mid-1800s |
| 21:43.41 | Ghel | If you're including body fat then average brain-to-body-mass ratio in the west has presumably plummeted over the past few decades. |
| 21:43.52 | Hachiman | Wormy_: You got that from the Xeelee Sequence hur |
| 21:43.54 | Technobliterator | Charles_Bot, if you get the chance, can we discuss the possibility of UNO joining the GXS? I had a few ideas |
| 21:43.58 | Wormy_ | Indeed I did |
| 21:44.01 | Ghel | But no, some archaic human groups such as Neanderthals did have larger brain sizes than modern-day humans. |
| 21:44.09 | Technobliterator | also, drom, I dunno what Dart is |
| 21:45.15 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly though? I think a millenia's too fast for change that drastic. Partially because its nearly-impossible for something that drastic to happen in such a short timespan, but also because I doubt, with our knowledge of genetics, we'd *let* it happen. |
| 21:46.04 | Monet | Also "larger brains" doesn't irrefutably mean "smarter" or "better" |
| 21:46.19 | Ghel | Sexual selection is certainly unlikely to allow such drastic changes to happen within such a short time. |
| 21:46.21 | Hachiman | It is true that humans do not look "radically" different from humans that were present 20,000 years ago |
| 21:46.23 | DrodoEmpire | I honestly think that, cultural standpoints on appearance willing, we as a species will genetically modify ourselves if need be to remain generally the same way we look now;. |
| 21:46.28 | Monet | Its surface area and neuron connectinos that should matter, not volume |
| 21:47.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Yeah putting minor racial differences aside you probably couldn't tell an Akkadian man from a modern Iranian man if you put them both in the same clothes and whatnot. :p |
| 21:47.22 | DrodoEmpire | *ancient Akkadian |
| 21:47.51 | Monet | These pictures that show shriveled up, dwarfish or grotesque humans, it might just be a parody of modern life. |
| 21:48.06 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:48.24 | Monet | satire, sorry |
| 21:48.25 | Wormy_ | Well of course, our brains wouldn't atrophy tomorrow in our hypothetical utility fog environment, it may take tens of thousands of generations, if not more |
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| 21:49.28 | Wormy_ | It is also assuming that we somehow lose our intellectual / social / cultural / creative capability, which may actually increase. |
| 21:49.43 | Wormy_ | In a world free of menial tasks |
| 21:50.04 | Wormy_ | Which I think is very unlikely |
| 21:50.08 | DrodoEmpire | And again I doubt we'd let ourselves evolve into that appearance. I don't think that with our knowledge of genetics that (assuming cultural views on what a human should look like stay very roughly the same) we'd let ourselves become so grotesque without a good fight |
| 21:50.33 | Wormy_ | Unless we decide that is not a grotesque form |
| 21:50.54 | Monet | Slight change of subject I'm looking though the comments for the car of the future" looks and I'm seeing hints of commentors thinking these are "the cars of the future...for rich people" |
| 21:50.56 | Wormy_ | Likewise, I think it is probable we will have control over our own evolution/ |
| 21:51.01 | drom | Techno: JS mates with C |
| 21:51.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yes hence the assumption that we culturally agree that a human should look a certain way |
| 21:51.08 | Wormy_ | In fact we already do |
| 21:53.31 | Monet | We may look skinnier |
| 21:53.37 | Monet | Wht no hair? |
| 21:53.56 | Monet | but* |
| 21:53.58 | Monet | Ribs? |
| 21:54.38 | Monet | Breaks the classical notions of beauty a bit |
| 21:54.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I imagine there'll be some minor changes, inevitably. Longer fingers, bigger eyes, and taller stature (if the modern trend continues). But I think we'll take our evolution into our own hands before things get too out of control, and we drift too far from our current form. |
| 21:56.17 | OluapPlayer | Xho: poke |
| 21:56.24 | Xho | wat |
| 21:56.33 | Wormy_ | I think we will transfer ourselves into new media |
| 21:56.42 | OluapPlayer | i uploaded nu vido today |
| 21:56.57 | OluapPlayer | And Saris uploaded the QMSC finale |
| 21:56.58 | Wormy_ | Better at storing and processing information |
| 21:57.31 | Wormy_ | And if one doesn't feel any different from a slow, gradual upload, then they aren't imo |
| 21:57.50 | Wormy_ | That is changing neuron by neuron |
| 21:59.49 | Wormy_ | Ghel, Hachiman, Cyrannian, Monet, DrodoEmpire, OluapPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592 |
| 22:00.38 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao? |
| 22:00.48 | OluapPlayer | shup |
| 22:00.54 | Wormy_ | ayy lmao |
| 22:00.57 | DrodoEmpire | 3: |
| 22:02.01 | Ghel | I doubt anything will come from this new revelation, including conclusive evidence that it's actually true. |
| 22:02.45 | Monet | I miss the days when "UFO" didn't always mean "aliens" |
| 22:03.47 | Wormy_ | I actually do believe there are some strange UFO incidences that can't be easily identified. But I also there is no reliable evidence to support theories like they are piloted by aliens. But the mystery is real. |
| 22:04.43 | Wormy_ | As for Rendleshem if it happened we may never conclusively know, though it only takes one witness to go back on their claim. |
| 22:05.15 | Monet | Yes but "UFO" could logically eb anything if not a weather phenomenon. Like an experimental aircraft. |
| 22:05.28 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:06.08 | Wormy_ | Experimental aircraft simply do not account for all the mysterious phenomena either |
| 22:06.21 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 22:06.31 | DrodoEmpire | ayyliens |
| 22:06.38 | Wormy_ | However, I'm open minded about the possibility of a natural phenomenon that can cause hallucinogenic effects on the brain. |
| 22:06.40 | OluapPlayer | ayy shup |
| 22:06.52 | DrodoEmpire | no wayy lmao |
| 22:06.57 | Monet | Well cosnider that the US military *has* tried developing a flying saucer design for some reason. Such as this http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/images/research/topics/ourufos/010avrocar1.jpg |
| 22:07.25 | Wormy_ | Tying the object to subjective experiences of shape-shifting objects, invisible walls, abduction and so on |
| 22:07.32 | Monet | I don't think it acctually *flew* but they have tried |
| 22:08.18 | Wormy_ | The problem is, some UFOs that are still unidentified appear to defy the laws of aeronautics and intetia |
| 22:08.42 | DrodoEmpire | Conspiracayy theories lmao |
| 22:09.01 | Hachiman | Quit the memes |
| 22:09.06 | Wormy_ | Such as shape-shifting, appearing in two parts of the sky or accelerations that our aircraft cannot |
| 22:09.25 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I'm not in support of alien hypothesis either |
| 22:09.57 | Wormy_ | In fact its been shown that environmental effects can induce hallucination |
| 22:10.35 | OluapPlayer | Between an alien and some earthly thing I'm sure most people would hope it's an alien |
| 22:10.51 | Wormy_ | The problem with the mind altering-natural phenomenon idea I can see is that random crowds don't often fall prey to mass hysteria. |
| 22:11.20 | Wormy_ | Of course, I want it to be alien yes |
| 22:11.27 | DrodoEmpire | How come? |
| 22:11.56 | Xho | OluapPlayer: schadended |
| 22:11.57 | OluapPlayer | But it isn't |
| 22:12.00 | OluapPlayer | GET FERNI'D |
| 22:12.07 | OluapPlayer | FERMI'D even |
| 22:12.23 | OluapPlayer | Xho: Tangerine is ded ;_; |
| 22:12.34 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: Because alien ladies |
| 22:12.35 | Monet | OluapPLayer:That's new lol |
| 22:12.40 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 22:12.51 | Ghel | If you have multiple truly independent witnesses describing something truly mysterious then, unless you're dealing with something vague enough for them to all suffer from the same optical illusions or whatever, misidentifications and hoaxes can be essentially ruled out. |
| 22:13.14 | Ghel | With crowds, however, I'm sure the idea of "doesn't that thing look a bit like a spaceship" could spread quite easily. |
| 22:13.24 | Monet | It can |
| 22:13.43 | Wormy_ | There have been some incidents involving whole townships |
| 22:14.07 | Monet | Larger crowds may be harder ro convince but get enough momemntum on a meme like "doesn't that thing look a bit like a spaceship" and you have yourself a crowd that agrees |
| 22:14.23 | Wormy_ | Also notice how the UFO shape has changed throughout history |
| 22:14.59 | Wormy_ | So that could lend support to the concept of something cultural or subjective |
| 22:15.56 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=480760853 Kuga beat me to it |
| 22:16.39 | Wormy_ | Ancient history: flying wheels and chariots, or arrows [reigious icongraphy, arrows] > 19th century: Airship-shaped UFOs > early 20th: cigar or rocket shaped > post-40's: saucer or sphere > 80s: triangular craft > 2000's: shape-shifting forms common |
| 22:17.03 | OluapPlayer | I'm aware, I commented on that u goof |
| 22:17.55 | Monet | Triangular craft? |
| 22:17.58 | Monet | 80s? |
| 22:18.16 | Monet | Its amazing the societal effect Star Wars had. |
| 22:18.18 | OluapPlayer | I also made a video today so check dat |
| 22:18.38 | Wormy_ | Monet: Google the Belgium wave |
| 22:19.22 | Monet | Woah... |
| 22:19.26 | Ghel | There's certainly a huge psychosocial connection when it comes to UFOs. Although the Belgium triangles don't look very Star Detroyer-like. |
| 22:19.32 | Wormy_ | Actually i think its quite possible this kind of UFO is related to other so-called paranormal experiences |
| 22:19.36 | Monet | Actually the alternative i was considering for "triangle-shaped craft" was the space shuttle |
| 22:20.07 | Wormy_ | Consider it coincides with various black project plane conspiracies, like Aurora |
| 22:20.43 | Ghel | Many other triangle-shaped craft could easily fall into the category of experimental flying wigs. I think some are actually known to have been stealth planes that have since been declassified. |
| 22:20.47 | Ghel | wings* |
| 22:20.52 | Wormy_ | indeed |
| 22:21.18 | Ghel | Flying wigs, on the other hand, are obviously where the phenomenon of "angel hair" comes from. |
| 22:21.32 | Monet | Atually, the Belgian Wave reminds me of this http://www.kensmurals.com/space_5.jpg |
| 22:21.40 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 22:22.36 | Wormy_ | I do have a marvellously un-falsiable hypothesis |
| 22:22.36 | Monet | Or that future shuttle we see halfway though Star Trek Enterprise's intro. |
| 22:23.38 | Wormy_ | That shape-shifting UFO's are really utility fog self-replicating probes |
| 22:23.55 | Wormy_ | The universe hypothetically, should be full of them |
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| 22:24.45 | Wormy_ | Their effects induce powerful hallucinations including those of alien abduction |
| 22:26.26 | Ghel | Entirely plausible. |
| 22:26.41 | Ghel | Although it is falsifiable: if such a UFO is captured and turns out to be something else entirely. |
| 22:26.52 | Wormy_ | I just wish there could be ways of demonstrating it. |
| 22:27.28 | Wormy_ | How would one capture something that can dis-assemble itself? |
| 22:28.14 | Wormy_ | Something made of utility fog could give the apparent effects of solid objects using teleportation and extreme acceleration |
| 22:28.20 | Ghel | I never said it was feasible in practice. But, for example, one could malfunction. |
| 22:29.01 | Ghel | Or if it *isn't* something that can disassemble itself, then you could capture it and then easily falsify your hypothesis by the mere fact that you've managed to do so. |
| 22:29.06 | Wormy_ | Or maybe I dare say, attempt communication |
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| 22:30.08 | Ghel | Or in the future, if humanity develops such a technology we could presumably develop countermeasures against alien equivalents, assuming the latter hasn't advanced much since the present day (presumably there are limits somewhere). |
| 22:30.44 | Ghel | Or at the very least, isn't hugely advanced compared to the human version, whenever that might be developed. |
| 22:31.31 | Wormy_ | It could be that as we expand into the solar system, we may discover the workings of von-neurmann probes, such as mining operations or production facilities. Hence my joke about flying saucers on Pluto |
| 22:32.10 | Ghel | We all know that the flying saucers are on Ceres; Pluto is a parking lot for the giant triangles. |
| 22:32.29 | OluapPlayer | CERES LIGHTS ARE ALEINS |
| 22:33.06 | Monet | Wormy_: "How would one capture something that can dis-assemble itself?" > that's a trick employed by KIA aliens in XCOM. |
| 22:33.09 | Ghel | Duh. Every dwarf planet has its own time of spaceship. |
| 22:33.20 | Ghel | type* |
| 22:33.38 | Wormy_ | Where do the spherical ships come from? And the Cigar ships? |
| 22:33.49 | OluapPlayer | Ceres is the skeleton homeworld |
| 22:33.59 | OluapPlayer | They've been around since life begun on Earth |
| 22:34.24 | Monet | When an alien in XCOm is killed ,their weapon self-dismantles into tiny bits. |
| 22:35.07 | Ghel | The cigar ships are from Sedna, while the spheres are from Eris. Ironically, the planet named after the goddess of discord is home to the most geometrically perfect vessels of them all. |
| 22:35.23 | Hachiman | That is the thing; people believed that skeletons and such decomposed into dirt and dust when in actuality they are dematerialising and rematerialising on Ceres |
| 22:35.34 | Hachiman | To be reborn and given life |
| 22:35.52 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNj8It2S8Cs this is what we'll encounter under Ceres's surface |
| 22:35.54 | Wormy_ | Free from flesh? |
| 22:36.09 | Ghel | Is this just skeletons that dematerialise or is it anything that decomposes? |
| 22:36.22 | Hachiman | Just skeletons |
| 22:36.31 | Ghel | That makes sense. |
| 22:36.52 | Ghel | The latter would imply that Ceres is filled with mould and compost which is teleported to Earth to replace the decomposing matter. |
| 22:36.54 | Hachiman | The soil on Earth and on Ceres serves as a means of transportation via teleportation and only skeletal materials can be teleported |
| 22:36.56 | Wormy_ | So we are made of utility fog? |
| 22:37.16 | OluapPlayer | Plot twist |
| 22:37.21 | Wormy_ | our bones |
| 22:38.26 | Hachiman | The soil gradually disassembles our skeletons to be reassembled on Ceres - a very slow process by comparison to how we usually envision teleportation |
| 22:40.41 | Xho | dafuq u all talkin about |
| 22:40.55 | Ghel | Well we know that there's a lot of information to be transmitted in a skeleton. The fact that it can be done within the age of the universe is impressively fast. |
| 22:41.55 | Monet | Xho: A conspiracy about how people who are buried are reborn as skeletons on another planet. |
| 22:43.36 | Wormy_ | Colares Flap UFOs were strange http://tinyurl.com/ou9d3vj http://tinyurl.com/oadau73 |
| 22:44.17 | Wormy_ | http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1711/op003ku8.jpg |
| 22:44.58 | Ghel | Colares was a good one. |
| 22:45.14 | Ghel | I mean, if you ignore all of the UFO-related injuries. |
| 22:45.15 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Prato |
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| 22:45.24 | Ghel | From an ethical perspective. |
| 22:45.45 | Ghel | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
| 22:45.54 | Wormy_ | Yeah those UFOs were quite menacing really |
| 22:45.57 | Wormy_ | bye |
| 23:00.53 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian|STI |
| 23:00.55 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 23:01.44 | Cyrannian|STO | hur |
| 23:02.32 | Wormy_ | second time he's done that |
| 23:02.38 | Wormy_ | its that infectious |
| 23:05.19 | Cyrannian|STO | And highly contagious for that matter. |
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