00:00.50 | Monet_ | Then again |
00:01.10 | Monet_ | PLacing major Sporewiki charactersi n the heart of a real-world city could be fun |
00:01.55 | Aeo | I suppose. |
00:02.40 | Monet_ | Instant catastrophe, jsut stick Nu on the New York Subway. |
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01:24.06 | TekDroid | almost lost my fiction drafts.XD |
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01:44.20 | Wormy__ | à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¼¼âÐâ༽à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹ |
01:47.01 | Wormy__ | à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¼¼âÐâ༽à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹ |
01:47.05 | Cyrannian | ohgod |
01:47.11 | Wormy__ | à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¼¼âÐâ༽à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹ |
01:47.20 | Wormy__ | à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¼¼âÐâ༽à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹ |
01:47.26 | Wormy__ | modern art |
01:48.30 | Cyrannian | Somewhere Oluap has the sudden urge to murder |
01:49.29 | Wormy__ | But he will not know why |
01:50.34 | Cyrannian | aye |
01:50.51 | Wormy__ | à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹upside down à¸à¼½âÐâ༼à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸ |
01:50.59 | Wormy__ | à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸à¼½âÐâ༼à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸ |
01:53.07 | CyraBot | ðð½ðð¼ðð¿ |
01:55.15 | Wormy__ | à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à |
01:55.24 | Wormy__ | à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¸à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à¹à |
01:57.09 | Cyrannian | On that note, bai |
01:57.13 | Wormy__ | bye |
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12:23.42 | AdmiralPanda | verymuch so, thank you :P |
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12:51.41 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
12:51.43 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:55.05 | OluapPlayer | hi |
13:32.43 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:202393#5 |
13:32.46 | Technobliterator | rolls eyes |
13:33.12 | CyraBot | Oluap, I made a plan for an intergalactic war reboot you may be interested in. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Trivia#Intergalactic_War_Reboot |
13:33.22 | OluapPlayer | I saw it yesterday |
13:33.32 | OluapPlayer | Reboot of a reboot |
13:35.08 | Technobliterator | when will this guy fuck off and leave me alone |
13:35.11 | OluapPlayer | I take the Cogsangui at the right will be the main baddie |
13:36.14 | CyraBot | He was originally going to be one of Voro's warriors but he looks pretty rawr so perhaps |
13:37.06 | AdmiralPanda | the main baddie is clearly the one smart enough to let the rawr guy look rawr, while he controls everything from the shadows |
13:37.18 | AdmiralPanda | it's in the Evil Overlord list after all |
13:38.44 | CyraBot | Aye, I remember the original war was simply a series of battles leading to the climax, which was kinda lacklustre |
13:39.45 | CyraBot | Lots of cool adventures though. |
13:39.59 | AdmiralPanda | which reminds me of one of my favourite quotes regarding evil-aligned D&D campaigns - "A chaotic evil barbarian is not a villain. They are a tool used by villains to do things the villain doesn't want to be associated with." |
13:43.36 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/2xGp3te.gif |
13:45.39 | Ghelae | I think I'll make more of an effort to get the Girdo Empire involved in the Intergalactic War this time around, if that's possible. |
13:48.19 | AdmiralPanda | I actually can't remember what the Fordanta were doing at that point in time (if anything) |
13:48.22 | CyraBot | Of course, I'd like that. I still remember that image of drones approaching a Liberator-class |
13:49.00 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War/Battles_and_Events#Help_from_Girdo |
13:49.20 | Ghelae | That and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War/The_Final_Battle#Battle_of_Picon seem to be the only two sections they appeared in. |
13:49.39 | Ghelae | And the Battle of Picon suffered from me being too much of a perfectionist and never finishing the corresponding adventure. |
13:49.52 | Ghelae | Evidently I never even took a screenshot of what I had to illustrate it. |
13:50.40 | Wormy_ | I remember making up some weird time dilation field technology the DCP used. Of course that doesn't make sense so I could replace it with something else |
13:51.24 | CyraBot | Brb watching the Force Awakens comic con panel |
13:52.04 | Wormy_ | We also introduced metric shields the Cognatus used, that something to work on |
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13:53.13 | AdmiralPanda | I should probably do more work on that story of mine but can't be bothered |
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13:53.40 | OluapPlayer | I don't think I have anyone to use other than Tyrant and maybe the Ermitant being victims in a section and making the URC upset because their monkey buddies are getting bullied |
13:53.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
13:53.56 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
13:56.29 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: Though if you make the impossible minerals part of the sci-fi verse, I could use Topologite |
13:57.25 | Ghelae | If the impossible minerals were real in the scifiverse, they would actually go quite a way to explain a lot of unrealistic technology. |
13:59.23 | Ghelae | Hyperspace was made out of a topologite condensate. Gigantic starships avoid overheating even while throwing and withstanding planet-cracking weapons due to their use of negentopite. They're powered by aneumetrite. And you could even have Essence control being associated with veneficite forming in the brain. |
14:00.36 | Ghelae | Power from aneumetrite would have to be very rare, though, simply because of how many times reactors and even andasium have appeared in fiction. |
14:01.30 | Ghelae | The idea of the impossible minerals is that they would allow anything that's physically impossible to be possible, though. So of course they could explain all this technology. |
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14:19.58 | dino82_ | hello all1 |
14:19.58 | dino82_ | :D |
14:20.05 | Ghelae | Hello. |
14:20.32 | AdmiralPanda | hey |
14:21.20 | dino82_ | how is all doing? |
14:21.39 | OluapPlayer | Hello dino |
14:22.35 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
14:26.08 | dino82_ | I am great, thanks! ANything going on at the wikia? |
14:26.43 | Ghelae | Currently, SporeWiki isn't loading for me. |
14:26.58 | Ghelae | Recently we've discussed Cyr's planned Intergalactic War reboot. |
14:36.45 | Ghelae | BRB |
14:37.04 | dino82_ | Oh agian a reboot of the IW? |
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14:43.27 | dino82_ | interessting |
14:49.31 | AdmiralPanda | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ASpriggs077/Ideas#Servants_of_the_sky-gods thing I wrote because bored |
15:17.20 | Technobliterator | So tempted to just block Chantal this time |
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15:21.03 | Technobliterator | also IW reboot looks sweet |
15:29.32 | dino82_ | @Panda: Nice! |
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16:04.51 | Monet | Hi |
16:05.30 | OluapPlayer | hi |
16:17.51 | TekDroid | Hello |
16:18.07 | Wormy_away | Just finished bottling up loads of home-made wine. Shark stickers for the bitter load, puppy stickers for the sweet wine |
16:18.35 | Wormy_away | If I don't go blind by tonight, then its good |
16:19.42 | TekDroid | O.o |
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16:26.02 | Cyrannian | Hello |
16:26.13 | TekDroid | Hello |
16:26.42 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:28.00 | Wormy_ | I is somewhat funny but annoying that my town's food and beer festival money was stolen by the managers and ran off with it without leaving any contacts |
16:29.11 | Monet | That is annoying |
16:30.08 | Wormy_ | the festival is still going forward but the council is forced to pay for it all again |
16:35.38 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Oldfic - Should look a bit more appealing now |
16:36.14 | Wormy_ | well done |
16:36.42 | Wormy_ | Though "oldfic" in the title is formal and might want "old fiction" instead |
16:37.42 | Cyrannian | Oh wait needs a bit more editing |
16:38.22 | Ghelae | SporeWiki keeps on failing to load for me today. BRB |
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16:39.48 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: That will change with the name of the page in question. For example if you put that on the Intergalactic War, "Intergalactic War is a Historical Event" will come up |
16:40.02 | Wormy_ | ah I see |
16:40.28 | Cyrannian | Although I should decrease the size of it |
16:40.37 | Cyrannian | Currently it stretches across the page |
16:40.39 | Wormy_ | ah yes you used PAGENAME |
16:44.57 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Oldfic - How about this? |
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16:45.36 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War - On a page |
16:48.34 | Wormy_ | Looks good to me |
16:50.36 | Technobliterator | :o |
16:50.50 | Technobliterator | also new oldfic looks better |
16:51.12 | Technobliterator | I should probably rewrite it to make it more efficient |
16:51.15 | Technobliterator | after I'm done playing batman |
16:51.36 | Cyrannian | rightio |
17:01.30 | Cyrannian | Speaking of which Jo, is it possible to widen the war infobox? It's quite cramped when flags and empires with longer names are added. |
17:02.54 | OluapPlayer | The new oldfic looks good but it needs to list it's used for completed fiction rather than historical events |
17:03.54 | Cyrannian | Added |
17:05.25 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian, it's possible |
17:05.32 | Technobliterator | But as with Oldfic, I'll do it after Batman |
17:05.33 | Technobliterator | :p |
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17:16.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Charles |
17:18.19 | Charles_Murray | Hey! |
17:19.28 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:27.40 | dino82_ | hello |
17:36.04 | TekDroid | Hello |
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17:41.35 | Pastarios | Ih |
17:42.25 | Ghelae | Olleh |
17:45.52 | MonetAway | Hello |
17:49.02 | Wormy_ | lehol |
17:51.21 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Rn4PMA2 |
17:54.15 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/VlwEAtm |
17:55.31 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Afp1F |
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18:13.46 | Wormy_ | http://phys.org/news/2015-07-image-pluto-houston-geology.html |
18:17.25 | MonetAway | THose are some intriuing formations. |
18:17.41 | Monet | Its making me exited for that flyby |
18:24.11 | Wormy_ | I wonder if it will find numerous alien saucers roosting on it |
18:30.16 | Monet | Would they roast at Pluto's surface temperatures? |
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18:36.49 | Wormy_ | *roost* |
18:37.24 | Wormy_ | I like to think of UFO's as bioships or spaceborne organisms |
18:37.53 | Wormy_ | possibly not even sentient, but psychedelically mind altering. |
18:47.23 | Wormy_ | People who can watch, see how steep that road is :P https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/itv4 |
18:47.36 | Wormy_ | tour de france |
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19:09.19 | Pastarios | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/july/wcMovie02.jpg Monet: IT BEGINS |
19:09.32 | Wormy_ | So Japan and US tech giants are going to have a mech war, and an idiot in a theatre tried to charge his mobile phone in a fake socket on set, and a timelaspse of the Mar Rover's marathon length drive http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33310625 |
19:11.47 | Monet | Pastarios: EYes look a bit off |
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19:16.01 | Wormy_ | http://www.playbill.com/news/article/exclusive-meet-the-guy-who-tried-to-charge-his-phone-on-stage-at-hand-to-god-353020 |
19:16.26 | Wormy_ | Maybe we are becoming too obsessed in our phone-based reality |
19:17.00 | Ghel | Cyrannian: Remember the whole "infobox infobox war" fiasco? I was looking through the GCW to see where the Girdo Empire participated in that conflict... and I found this page had some beautiful examples: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Cyrannus_War/Year_One |
19:19.10 | Cyrannian | Oh dearie me, I thought that was sorted |
19:19.37 | Cyrannian | Though I must admit, "Infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war" is certainly an improvement over "infobox infobox war" |
19:19.55 | Wormy_ | What was the infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war? A bug? A joke? |
19:20.11 | Cyrannian | A bug, I believe |
19:20.12 | Ghel | Section 5.7: The Spininfobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox ward Sector |
19:20.38 | Ghel | Apparently the bug targeted that particular page three times. The other years are not presently affected. |
19:20.50 | Cyrannian | "the battlecry of billions of infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox warriors spread throughout the entire sector, the conflict was far from over. " |
19:21.07 | Cyrannian | I'll fix it now |
19:21.49 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Cyrannus_War/Year_One?action=history - you can see, Debug Squid Bot decided one go wasn't enough. In the space of four minutes it added 8400 bytes to the page, solely consisting of the words "infobox". |
19:22.10 | Wormy_ | "50 Subjugator Dreadnoughts travelled into the new DCP territories, commanded by none other than infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox warlord Kilnok" |
19:23.10 | Ghel | 5600 bytes* (presumably 8400 characters?) |
19:23.51 | Ghel | Either way, that's some dedication even for a bot. |
19:30.57 | CyraBot | I find that offensive. |
19:33.26 | Ghel | What? I'm saying bots are capable of great feats of dedication. |
19:35.27 | Cyrannian | There, fixed |
19:37.51 | Wormy_ | CyraBot is clearly not one of those superior bots. |
19:40.31 | Cyrannian | Excuse you, CyraBot was responsible for ending the infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war calamity. Bots are the true unsung heroes in our society. |
19:41.44 | Ghel | Later on in the year, or maybe next year, after the Intergalactic War reboot is complete, we need to write a page documenting the Infobox Infobox Infobox Infobox Infobox Infobox War. |
19:41.54 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:42.53 | Ghel | The biggest challenge will be figuring out why it has that name. At least the Infobox Infobox War could be construed as a civil war between Infoboxes. I don't know whether the war infobox has space for six factions. |
19:45.22 | Ghel | No, it only goes up to four. Just as well really; you wouldn't have much room for text if there were any more. |
19:46.00 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War - Speaking of which, started the reboot |
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19:56.53 | Monet | Pastarios: My sides are close ot splitting |
20:01.38 | Monet | That seems pretty accurate |
20:08.23 | DrodoEmpire | test |
20:08.40 | DrodoEmpire | yey |
20:20.02 | Tek0516 | I'm just waiting to see how badly Greece will have screwed itself over with the referendum. |
20:22.13 | ETS2MPJackal | "we screwed ourselves over, let's celebrate! ayyyyyyyyyyy" |
20:22.22 | ETS2MPJackal | Seriously, they were celebrating after the referendum. |
20:22.23 | ETS2MPJackal | lol |
20:24.38 | Tek0516 | "We will of solving debts by of doings nothings. Nazis will of acceptings our terms. |
20:25.02 | Tek0516 | gib monies plox |
20:27.06 | Tek0516 | ~test |
20:27.06 | infobot | rumour has it, test is not funny |
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20:27.49 | Technobliterator | okay, Cyrannian, what did you want me to do? |
20:29.20 | Cyrannian | Just wanted to know if it's possible to expand the width of the war infobox so there's more space for empires with longer names, as well as flags and miniportraits. |
20:29.54 | Technobliterator | yep |
20:32.27 | Monet | Tek0516: Well I myself am wondering what was the point |
20:32.33 | Technobliterator | ok |
20:32.44 | Technobliterator | add width=375 or so |
20:33.38 | Monet | Syriza and the ocuntry rejected the offer the EU and the IMF presented and days after Tsipras presents an outline for a new period of Austerity with reforms they should have tried implementing ages ago. |
20:36.41 | Cyrannian | Ah great it worked, danke |
20:39.55 | Technobliterator | np |
20:43.02 | Technobliterator | while I'm editing, I should finish that UNO page rewrite |
20:56.32 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: Ghel: dino82_: Take a look: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Allies_of_the_Intergalactic_War |
21:09.25 | Ghel | It's a good start, and you've even managed to get a picture where most characters' feet aren't inside the floor. :P |
21:09.34 | Wormy_ | I miss the Sylit and Gjintatrox |
21:10.51 | Cyrannian | I notice that your character is the one exception |
21:11.06 | Technobliterator | I'm thinking of deleting several UNO subpages |
21:11.16 | Technobliterator | and several Taldar ones, for that matter |
21:11.19 | Technobliterator | maybe streamline the fiction |
21:13.48 | Monet | A little sorting wouldn't hurt |
21:14.37 | dino82_ | wahaha, Ramashe before her X-treatment! Nice! |
21:18.20 | Cyrannian | I'm sure her injuries and transformation will play a role in the ending! |
21:21.28 | Technobliterator | someone remind me to start with the Technology and Society pages |
21:21.35 | Technobliterator | either delete or cleanup |
21:21.39 | Technobliterator | I think Military is ok |
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21:28.18 | Dogerios | BTW Monet: http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/july/wcMovie02.jpg IT'S HAPPENING |
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21:31.20 | Monet | Dogerios: You showed me |
21:31.24 | Monet | I responded but you DCd |
21:31.36 | Dogerios | Wha did you say |
21:32.07 | Monet | Eyes looked a bit odd |
21:32.48 | Dogerios | A bit too humanlike ya |
21:33.02 | Dogerios | Looks like Durotan |
21:36.34 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unified_Nation_of_Ottzello Okay, finished rewrite :O |
21:36.44 | Technobliterator | The next step will be to make technology look...not terrible |
21:37.03 | Technobliterator | ie probably delete all weapons pages or at least redo some bits |
21:37.35 | Technobliterator | and...maybe delete Society page? dunno |
21:39.53 | Cyrannian|STO | It's looking good Jo, good seeing you back working on fiction |
21:40.01 | Technobliterator | ^.^ |
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21:41.24 | dino82_ | nice Jo |
21:43.55 | Cyrannian|STO | ~punch OluapPlayer |
21:43.55 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches OluapPlayer right on the nose |
21:44.12 | Cyrannian|STO | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJmeqHyWgAAl6HA.jpg - That must be awkward for Luke in the middle |
21:44.12 | OluapPlayer | ~ignore Cyrannian|STO |
21:44.12 | infobot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Cyrannian|STO!" |
21:47.50 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
21:48.21 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/xuZmqSv |
21:48.35 | Wormy_ | "Jurcatssic Purrk" |
21:48.43 | Technobliterator | oh, Wormy_ and Ghel, where do UNO fit on tier scales and whatever systems exist now? |
21:50.21 | Wormy_ | Tier 2 still, if the System hasn't changed and they have a two-way wormhole network. |
21:51.08 | Wormy_ | I will say, the SUSYdrive wouldn't work in real life, if that matters to you, it can be changed. |
21:51.34 | Technobliterator | That's old, so I'm fine with changing that |
21:51.54 | Wormy_ | I took it from an old sci-fi story with out-of-date physics. |
21:51.58 | Ghel | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Technology_tree might be a useful tool to be brought into tier determination. While the idea of it was to see what technology you could expect for each tier, it could work roughly in the other way too. |
21:51.59 | Technobliterator | UNO's technology is all supernanotech or just superspacetimetech |
21:52.15 | Technobliterator | alright, might check that |
21:52.22 | Technobliterator | I'm also not sure if new UNO count as communist |
21:54.50 | Wormy_ | I've never really liked the term "spacetime-tech", btw. "Metric engineering" works a bit better, but Orion's Arm already use that so I don't often. |
21:56.09 | Ghel | IIRC it's been used in other contexts too; I don't think they necessarily coined the term. |
21:56.47 | Wormy_ | Then it might be okay to use it |
21:58.06 | Wormy_ | "topologite condensate" could be played with (without the "ite") > "hypertopological engineering"? |
21:58.37 | Ghel | Yes, that would work for the specific case of using topologite. |
21:59.01 | Wormy_ | Because the boundary between hyperspatial tech and metric tech is bluured in the way we use them for a few technologies. |
21:59.02 | Ghel | Here's a nice Google search showing it does exist outside Orion's Arm: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22metric+engineering%22&oq=%22metric+engineering%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.2698j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=%22metric+engineering%22+spacetime |
21:59.16 | Ghel | "spacetime metric engineering" and "vacuum engineering" are other terms. |
21:59.38 | Ghel | But "vacuum engineering" could also involve manipulating the vacua of quantum field theories. |
21:59.39 | Wormy_ | "vacuum engineering", of course |
22:00.13 | Wormy_ | Nice to see metric engineering in scientific papers |
22:04.33 | Tek0516 | "vacuum r |
22:05.31 | Tek0516 | *engineering is probably something more complex but the name just sounds a lot like a fancy term for orbital construction |
22:06.28 | dino82_ | bye bye |
22:06.46 | Ghel | Yes; it means engineering of the vacuum, rather than engineering in a vacuum as it might sound. |
22:08.20 | Ghel | Although "metric engineering" could just mean engineering of measurement devices, as will become particularly clear if you just search for "metric engineering" and see a load of results about a company specialising in precisely-machined tools. |
22:08.33 | Ghel | Hence the addition of "spacetime" in the search I linked to. |
22:08.38 | Wormy_ | yeah |
22:09.07 | Ghel | Amongst several similar companies of similar names. |
22:10.26 | Wormy_ | How dare they use such a cool terminology for something so dry |
22:22.35 | DrodoEmpire | test |
22:24.36 | Tek0516 | pass |
22:26.45 | Ghel | Just looking over how thorough the tech tree's requirement lists are, I've realised there'd have to be some strange patterns of development for a civilisation to fall foul of some parts and get to one branch but fail to advance to the next. |
22:26.58 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|STO: You probably seen, but https://www.facebook.com/StarWars.UK/videos/970856936293028/ |
22:27.32 | Wormy_ | What are those patterns? |
22:27.45 | Ghel | Take hypercomputation as an example. At twelve branches in, and five branches into the hyperspatial revolution, it's requirements are either classical or quantum information theory. |
22:28.46 | Ghel | So to fail the jump to hypercomputation from it's immediate successor, they'd have to be like "we have the power to manipulate time itself... but we don't know how to computer" |
22:30.17 | Tek0516 | Kind of like those wierd Civ tech tree gaps |
22:30.19 | Ghel | In a slightly less extreme case but one that still stretches plausibility, to fail the jump to monopole matter they'd need to have mastered particle physics to the extent that they can reliably produce and utilise magnetic monopoles, but still be stumped by just how exactly atoms work. |
22:31.16 | Wormy_ | Hm |
22:32.46 | Ghel | These developmental routes are presumably possible, so I'm not going to edit the tree, but I just noticed how strange they seem. |
22:34.13 | Wormy_ | I presume there may always be some weird issues, but as long as they are not very likely to be encountered, then it isn't so glaring. |
22:34.51 | Tek0516 | For the hypercomputing what if they did it without the conventional computing we know? I read a book recently which could sort of network themselves into a sort of computer. I don't know if that works but I suppose they could hypothethically make that jump without the classic computing. |
22:35.57 | Ghel | I think you may have skipped a few words there unless you meant the book itself could network itself into a computer. |
22:36.45 | Ghel | The thing is, it's one thing having your own computational abilities, but building something else capable of computing still requires you to understand how it works, even if that is on a basic intuitive level. |
22:37.13 | Tek0516 | true |
22:37.31 | Wormy_ | Basically, the mathematics of hypercomputation are provable classically, but its been shown that the true physically realisable turing machines a quantum computers. So any physical hypercomputer I assume has a quantumness to it. But its been shown that in ordinary spacetime, hypercomputation does not saeem possible |
22:37.32 | Ghel | Matrioshka brains and planetary computing are similar to hypercomputation in that regard: a civilisation that gets stuck there has built dyson spheres and maybe even their own planets, but they evidentally did it all using slide rules. |
22:38.03 | Ghel | Wormy_: That's why SporeWikiverse hypercomputation falls squarely into the realm of hyperspatial engineering. |
22:38.20 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
22:39.09 | Wormy_ | I did read about some researchers making "chaos computers", neural networks with chaotic, analog inputs. Their results are still to be published I think. |
22:39.46 | Wormy_ | They believe may create an oracle machine. Lets wait for them to prove it wrong I guess |
22:39.49 | Tek0516 | Tech trees become extremely tangled if you want to be really accurate though |
22:40.04 | Wormy_ | Yes |
22:41.07 | Ghel | I've not included all of the individual steps for that reason, and as a general rule mathematical developments are completely absent because they're nothing more than requirements and research boosts. |
22:41.54 | Ghel | Hence no mention of chaos theory. Those chaos computers would be one part of classical information theory that could be worked on. |
22:42.59 | Wormy_ | It is a good idea to leave it's requirements as "classical or quantum information theory" in that regard. |
22:43.58 | Wormy_ | Tbh, I'm not sure why Oracles are that interesting physically |
22:44.35 | Wormy_ | Because they still don't slay infinite classes of problems above them (requiring meta-oracles, and meta-meta-oracles) , blagh |
22:45.45 | Ghel | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
22:46.21 | Wormy_ | Ghelae doesn't like infinities |
22:50.48 | Tek0516 | You infinitely blew his mind? |
22:57.15 | Wormy_ | he blue screened to prevent him from trying to solve the halting problem |
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23:18.19 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/QXNbCnq http://i.imgur.com/VxpvuLj.jpg |
23:25.57 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|STO: http://imgur.com/gallery/CDUTB |
23:28.09 | Cyrannian|STO | olol |
23:30.01 | Wormy_ | Pretty sure no.4 still happens http://imgur.com/gallery/G98wY8M |
23:32.20 | Wormy_ | 11, yes |
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23:40.47 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
23:45.50 | TekDroid | hello |
23:53.19 | Wormy_ | http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/04/think-the-cassette-tape-is-dead-then-why-did-sony-just-cram-148tb-of-data-onto-one/ |
23:53.49 | Wormy_ | I tried to open one of my old cassette tape cases and it took me ages to remember how to |
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23:59.12 | External | Hi |