IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150711

00:00.50Monet_Then again
00:01.10Monet_PLacing major Sporewiki charactersi n the heart of a real-world city could be fun
00:01.55AeoI suppose.
00:02.40Monet_Instant catastrophe, jsut stick Nu on the New York Subway.
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01:24.06TekDroidalmost lost my fiction drafts.XD
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01:47.05Cyrannianohgod
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01:47.26Wormy__modern art
01:48.30CyrannianSomewhere Oluap has the sudden urge to murder
01:49.29Wormy__But he will not know why
01:50.34Cyrannianaye
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01:53.07CyraBot💃🏽💃🏼💃🏿
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01:57.09CyrannianOn that note, bai
01:57.13Wormy__bye
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12:23.42AdmiralPandaverymuch so, thank you :P
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12:51.41AdmiralPandahi
12:51.43GhelaeHello.
12:55.05OluapPlayerhi
13:32.43Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:202393#5
13:32.46Technobliteratorrolls eyes
13:33.12CyraBotOluap, I made a plan for an intergalactic war reboot you may be interested in. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Trivia#Intergalactic_War_Reboot
13:33.22OluapPlayerI saw it yesterday
13:33.32OluapPlayerReboot of a reboot
13:35.08Technobliteratorwhen will this guy fuck off and leave me alone
13:35.11OluapPlayerI take the Cogsangui at the right will be the main baddie
13:36.14CyraBotHe was originally going to be one of Voro's warriors but he looks pretty rawr so perhaps
13:37.06AdmiralPandathe main baddie is clearly the one smart enough to let the rawr guy look rawr, while he controls everything from the shadows
13:37.18AdmiralPandait's in the Evil Overlord list after all
13:38.44CyraBotAye, I remember the original war was simply a series of battles leading to the climax, which was kinda lacklustre
13:39.45CyraBotLots of cool adventures though.
13:39.59AdmiralPandawhich reminds me of one of my favourite quotes regarding evil-aligned D&D campaigns - "A chaotic evil barbarian is not a villain. They are a tool used by villains to do things the villain doesn't want to be associated with."
13:43.36Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/2xGp3te.gif
13:45.39GhelaeI think I'll make more of an effort to get the Girdo Empire involved in the Intergalactic War this time around, if that's possible.
13:48.19AdmiralPandaI actually can't remember what the Fordanta were doing at that point in time (if anything)
13:48.22CyraBotOf course, I'd like that. I still remember that image of drones approaching a Liberator-class
13:49.00Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War/Battles_and_Events#Help_from_Girdo
13:49.20GhelaeThat and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War/The_Final_Battle#Battle_of_Picon seem to be the only two sections they appeared in.
13:49.39GhelaeAnd the Battle of Picon suffered from me being too much of a perfectionist and never finishing the corresponding adventure.
13:49.52GhelaeEvidently I never even took a screenshot of what I had to illustrate it.
13:50.40Wormy_I remember making up some weird time dilation field technology the DCP used.  Of course that doesn't make sense so I could replace it with something else
13:51.24CyraBotBrb watching the Force Awakens comic con panel
13:52.04Wormy_We also introduced metric shields the Cognatus used, that something to work on
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13:53.13AdmiralPandaI should probably do more work on that story of mine but can't be bothered
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13:53.40OluapPlayerI don't think I have anyone to use other than Tyrant and maybe the Ermitant being victims in a section and making the URC upset because their monkey buddies are getting bullied
13:53.49DrodoEmpireHi everyone
13:53.56AdmiralPandahi
13:56.29Wormy_Ghelae:  Though if you make the impossible minerals part of the sci-fi verse, I could use Topologite
13:57.25GhelaeIf the impossible minerals were real in the scifiverse, they would actually go quite a way to explain a lot of unrealistic technology.
13:59.23GhelaeHyperspace was made out of a topologite condensate. Gigantic starships avoid overheating even while throwing and withstanding planet-cracking weapons due to their use of negentopite. They're powered by aneumetrite. And you could even have Essence control being associated with veneficite forming in the brain.
14:00.36GhelaePower from aneumetrite would have to be very rare, though, simply because of how many times reactors and even andasium have appeared in fiction.
14:01.30GhelaeThe idea of the impossible minerals is that they would allow anything that's physically impossible to be possible, though. So of course they could explain all this technology.
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14:19.58dino82_hello all1
14:19.58dino82_:D
14:20.05GhelaeHello.
14:20.32AdmiralPandahey
14:21.20dino82_how is all doing?
14:21.39OluapPlayerHello dino
14:22.35GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
14:26.08dino82_I am great, thanks! ANything going on at the wikia?
14:26.43GhelaeCurrently, SporeWiki isn't loading for me.
14:26.58GhelaeRecently we've discussed Cyr's planned Intergalactic War reboot.
14:36.45GhelaeBRB
14:37.04dino82_Oh agian a reboot of the IW?
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14:43.27dino82_interessting
14:49.31AdmiralPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ASpriggs077/Ideas#Servants_of_the_sky-gods thing I wrote because bored
15:17.20TechnobliteratorSo tempted to just block Chantal this time
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15:21.03Technobliteratoralso IW reboot looks sweet
15:29.32dino82_@Panda: Nice!
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16:04.51MonetHi
16:05.30OluapPlayerhi
16:17.51TekDroidHello
16:18.07Wormy_awayJust finished bottling up loads of home-made wine.  Shark stickers for the bitter load, puppy stickers for the sweet wine
16:18.35Wormy_awayIf I don't go blind by tonight, then its good
16:19.42TekDroidO.o
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16:26.02CyrannianHello
16:26.13TekDroidHello
16:26.42GhelaeHello.
16:28.00Wormy_I is somewhat funny but annoying that my town's food and beer festival money was stolen by the managers and ran off with it without leaving any contacts
16:29.11MonetThat is annoying
16:30.08Wormy_the festival is still going forward but the council is forced to pay for it all again
16:35.38Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Oldfic - Should look a bit more appealing now
16:36.14Wormy_well done
16:36.42Wormy_Though "oldfic" in the title is formal and might want "old fiction" instead
16:37.42CyrannianOh wait needs a bit more editing
16:38.22GhelaeSporeWiki keeps on failing to load for me today. BRB
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16:39.48CyrannianWormy_: That will change with the name of the page in question. For example if you put that on the Intergalactic War, "Intergalactic War is a Historical Event" will come up
16:40.02Wormy_ah I see
16:40.28CyrannianAlthough I should decrease the size of it
16:40.37CyrannianCurrently it stretches across the page
16:40.39Wormy_ah yes you used PAGENAME
16:44.57Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Oldfic - How about this?
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16:45.36Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War - On a page
16:48.34Wormy_Looks good to me
16:50.36Technobliterator:o
16:50.50Technobliteratoralso new oldfic looks better
16:51.12TechnobliteratorI should probably rewrite it to make it more efficient
16:51.15Technobliteratorafter I'm done playing batman
16:51.36Cyrannianrightio
17:01.30CyrannianSpeaking of which Jo, is it possible to widen the war infobox? It's quite cramped when flags and empires with longer names are added.
17:02.54OluapPlayerThe new oldfic looks good but it needs to list it's used for completed fiction rather than historical events
17:03.54CyrannianAdded
17:05.25TechnobliteratorCyrannian, it's possible
17:05.32TechnobliteratorBut as with Oldfic, I'll do it after Batman
17:05.33Technobliterator:p
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17:16.25DrodoEmpireHey Charles
17:18.19Charles_MurrayHey!
17:19.28GhelaeHello.
17:27.40dino82_hello
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17:41.35PastariosIh
17:42.25GhelaeOlleh
17:45.52MonetAwayHello
17:49.02Wormy_lehol
17:51.21Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Rn4PMA2
17:54.15Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/VlwEAtm
17:55.31Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Afp1F
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18:13.46Wormy_http://phys.org/news/2015-07-image-pluto-houston-geology.html
18:17.25MonetAwayTHose are some intriuing formations.
18:17.41MonetIts making me exited for that flyby
18:24.11Wormy_I wonder if it will find numerous alien saucers roosting on it
18:30.16MonetWould they roast at Pluto's surface temperatures?
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18:36.49Wormy_*roost*
18:37.24Wormy_I like to think of UFO's as bioships or spaceborne organisms
18:37.53Wormy_possibly not even sentient, but psychedelically mind altering.
18:47.23Wormy_People who can watch, see how steep that road is :P https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/itv4
18:47.36Wormy_tour de france
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19:09.19Pastarioshttp://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/july/wcMovie02.jpg Monet: IT BEGINS
19:09.32Wormy_So Japan and US tech giants are going to have a mech war, and an idiot in a theatre tried to charge his mobile phone in a fake socket on set, and a timelaspse of the Mar Rover's marathon length drive http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33310625
19:11.47MonetPastarios: EYes look a bit off
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19:16.01Wormy_http://www.playbill.com/news/article/exclusive-meet-the-guy-who-tried-to-charge-his-phone-on-stage-at-hand-to-god-353020
19:16.26Wormy_Maybe we are becoming too obsessed in our phone-based reality
19:17.00GhelCyrannian: Remember the whole "infobox infobox war" fiasco? I was looking through the GCW to see where the Girdo Empire participated in that conflict... and I found this page had some beautiful examples: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Cyrannus_War/Year_One
19:19.10CyrannianOh dearie me, I thought that was sorted
19:19.37CyrannianThough I must admit, "Infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war" is certainly an improvement over "infobox infobox war"
19:19.55Wormy_What was the infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war?  A bug?  A joke?
19:20.11CyrannianA bug, I believe
19:20.12GhelSection 5.7: The Spininfobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox ward Sector
19:20.38GhelApparently the bug targeted that particular page three times. The other years are not presently affected.
19:20.50Cyrannian"the battlecry of billions of infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox warriors spread throughout the entire sector, the conflict was far from over. "
19:21.07CyrannianI'll fix it now
19:21.49Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Cyrannus_War/Year_One?action=history - you can see, Debug Squid Bot decided one go wasn't enough. In the space of four minutes it added 8400 bytes to the page, solely consisting of the words "infobox".
19:22.10Wormy_"50 Subjugator Dreadnoughts travelled into the new DCP territories, commanded by none other than infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox warlord Kilnok"
19:23.10Ghel5600 bytes* (presumably 8400 characters?)
19:23.51GhelEither way, that's some dedication even for a bot.
19:30.57CyraBotI find that offensive.
19:33.26GhelWhat? I'm saying bots are capable of great feats of dedication.
19:35.27CyrannianThere, fixed
19:37.51Wormy_CyraBot is clearly not one of those superior bots.
19:40.31CyrannianExcuse you, CyraBot was responsible for ending the infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox infobox war calamity. Bots are the true unsung heroes in our society.
19:41.44GhelLater on in the year, or maybe next year, after the Intergalactic War reboot is complete, we need to write a page documenting the Infobox Infobox Infobox Infobox Infobox Infobox War.
19:41.54DrodoEmpire^
19:42.53GhelThe biggest challenge will be figuring out why it has that name. At least the Infobox Infobox War could be construed as a civil war between Infoboxes. I don't know whether the war infobox has space for six factions.
19:45.22GhelNo, it only goes up to four. Just as well really; you wouldn't have much room for text if there were any more.
19:46.00Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Intergalactic_War - Speaking of which, started the reboot
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19:56.53MonetPastarios: My sides are close ot splitting
20:01.38MonetThat seems pretty accurate
20:08.23DrodoEmpiretest
20:08.40DrodoEmpireyey
20:20.02Tek0516I'm just waiting to see how badly Greece will have screwed itself over with the referendum.
20:22.13ETS2MPJackal"we screwed ourselves over, let's celebrate! ayyyyyyyyyyy"
20:22.22ETS2MPJackalSeriously, they were celebrating after the referendum.
20:22.23ETS2MPJackallol
20:24.38Tek0516"We will of solving debts by of doings nothings. Nazis will of acceptings our terms.
20:25.02Tek0516gib monies plox
20:27.06Tek0516~test
20:27.06infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
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20:27.49Technobliteratorokay, Cyrannian, what did you want me to do?
20:29.20CyrannianJust wanted to know if it's possible to expand the width of the war infobox so there's more space for empires with longer names, as well as flags and miniportraits.
20:29.54Technobliteratoryep
20:32.27MonetTek0516: Well I myself am wondering what was the point
20:32.33Technobliteratorok
20:32.44Technobliteratoradd width=375 or so
20:33.38MonetSyriza and the ocuntry rejected the offer the EU and the IMF presented and days after Tsipras presents an outline for a new period of Austerity with reforms they should have tried implementing ages ago.
20:36.41CyrannianAh great it worked, danke
20:39.55Technobliteratornp
20:43.02Technobliteratorwhile I'm editing, I should finish that UNO page rewrite
20:56.32CyrannianWormy_: Ghel: dino82_: Take a look: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Allies_of_the_Intergalactic_War
21:09.25GhelIt's a good start, and you've even managed to get a picture where most characters' feet aren't inside the floor. :P
21:09.34Wormy_I miss the Sylit and Gjintatrox
21:10.51CyrannianI notice that your character is the one exception
21:11.06TechnobliteratorI'm thinking of deleting several UNO subpages
21:11.16Technobliteratorand several Taldar ones, for that matter
21:11.19Technobliteratormaybe streamline the fiction
21:13.48MonetA little sorting wouldn't hurt
21:14.37dino82_wahaha, Ramashe before her X-treatment! Nice!
21:18.20CyrannianI'm sure her injuries and transformation will play a role in the ending!
21:21.28Technobliteratorsomeone remind me to start with the Technology and Society pages
21:21.35Technobliteratoreither delete or cleanup
21:21.39TechnobliteratorI think Military is ok
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21:28.18DogeriosBTW Monet: http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/july/wcMovie02.jpg IT'S HAPPENING
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21:31.20MonetDogerios: You showed me
21:31.24MonetI responded but you DCd
21:31.36DogeriosWha did you say
21:32.07MonetEyes looked a bit odd
21:32.48DogeriosA bit too humanlike ya
21:33.02DogeriosLooks like Durotan
21:36.34Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unified_Nation_of_Ottzello Okay, finished rewrite :O
21:36.44TechnobliteratorThe next step will be to make technology look...not terrible
21:37.03Technobliteratorie probably delete all weapons pages or at least redo some bits
21:37.35Technobliteratorand...maybe delete Society page? dunno
21:39.53Cyrannian|STOIt's looking good Jo, good seeing you back working on fiction
21:40.01Technobliterator^.^
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21:41.24dino82_nice Jo
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21:44.12Cyrannian|STOhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJmeqHyWgAAl6HA.jpg - That must be awkward for Luke in the middle
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21:47.50Technobliteratordumbo
21:48.21Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/xuZmqSv
21:48.35Wormy_"Jurcatssic Purrk"
21:48.43Technobliteratoroh, Wormy_  and Ghel, where do UNO fit on tier scales and whatever systems exist now?
21:50.21Wormy_Tier 2 still, if the System hasn't changed and they have a two-way wormhole network.
21:51.08Wormy_I will say, the SUSYdrive wouldn't work in real life, if that matters to you, it can be changed.
21:51.34TechnobliteratorThat's old, so I'm fine with changing that
21:51.54Wormy_I took it from an old sci-fi story with out-of-date physics.
21:51.58Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Technology_tree might be a useful tool to be brought into tier determination. While the idea of it was to see what technology you could expect for each tier, it could work roughly in the other way too.
21:51.59TechnobliteratorUNO's technology is all supernanotech or just superspacetimetech
21:52.15Technobliteratoralright, might check that
21:52.22TechnobliteratorI'm also not sure if new UNO count as communist
21:54.50Wormy_I've never really liked the term "spacetime-tech", btw.  "Metric engineering" works a bit better, but Orion's Arm already use that so I don't often.
21:56.09GhelIIRC it's been used in other contexts too; I don't think they necessarily coined the term.
21:56.47Wormy_Then it might be okay to use it
21:58.06Wormy_"topologite condensate" could be played with (without the "ite") > "hypertopological engineering"?
21:58.37GhelYes, that would work for the specific case of using topologite.
21:59.01Wormy_Because the boundary between hyperspatial tech and metric tech is bluured in the way we use them for a few technologies.
21:59.02GhelHere's a nice Google search showing it does exist outside Orion's Arm: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22metric+engineering%22&oq=%22metric+engineering%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.2698j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=%22metric+engineering%22+spacetime
21:59.16Ghel"spacetime metric engineering" and "vacuum engineering" are other terms.
21:59.38GhelBut "vacuum engineering" could also involve manipulating the vacua of quantum field theories.
21:59.39Wormy_"vacuum engineering", of course
22:00.13Wormy_Nice to see metric engineering in scientific papers
22:04.33Tek0516"vacuum r
22:05.31Tek0516*engineering is probably something more complex but the name just sounds a lot like a fancy term for orbital construction
22:06.28dino82_bye bye
22:06.46GhelYes; it means engineering of the vacuum, rather than engineering in a vacuum as it might sound.
22:08.20GhelAlthough "metric engineering" could just mean engineering of measurement devices, as will become particularly clear if you just search for "metric engineering" and see a load of results about a company specialising in precisely-machined tools.
22:08.33GhelHence the addition of "spacetime" in the search I linked to.
22:08.38Wormy_yeah
22:09.07GhelAmongst several similar companies of similar names.
22:10.26Wormy_How dare they use such a cool terminology for something so dry
22:22.35DrodoEmpiretest
22:24.36Tek0516pass
22:26.45GhelJust looking over how thorough the tech tree's requirement lists are, I've realised there'd have to be some strange patterns of development for a civilisation to fall foul of some parts and get to one branch but fail to advance to the next.
22:26.58Wormy_Cyrannian|STO:  You probably seen, but https://www.facebook.com/StarWars.UK/videos/970856936293028/
22:27.32Wormy_What are those patterns?
22:27.45GhelTake hypercomputation as an example. At twelve branches in, and five branches into the hyperspatial revolution, it's requirements are either classical or quantum information theory.
22:28.46GhelSo to fail the jump to hypercomputation from it's immediate successor, they'd have to be like "we have the power to manipulate time itself... but we don't know how to computer"
22:30.17Tek0516Kind of like those wierd Civ tech tree gaps
22:30.19GhelIn a slightly less extreme case but one that still stretches plausibility, to fail the jump to monopole matter they'd need to have mastered particle physics to the extent that they can reliably produce and utilise magnetic monopoles, but still be stumped by just how exactly atoms work.
22:31.16Wormy_Hm
22:32.46GhelThese developmental routes are presumably possible, so I'm not going to edit the tree, but I just noticed how strange they seem.
22:34.13Wormy_I presume there may always be some weird issues, but as long as they are not very likely to be encountered, then it isn't so glaring.
22:34.51Tek0516For the hypercomputing what if they did it without the conventional computing we know? I read a book recently which could sort of network themselves into a sort of computer. I don't know if that works but I suppose they could hypothethically make that jump without the classic computing.
22:35.57GhelI think you may have skipped a few words there unless you meant the book itself could network itself into a computer.
22:36.45GhelThe thing is, it's one thing having your own computational abilities, but building something else capable of computing still requires you to understand how it works, even if that is on a basic intuitive level.
22:37.13Tek0516true
22:37.31Wormy_Basically, the mathematics of hypercomputation are provable classically, but its been shown that the true physically realisable turing machines a quantum computers.  So any physical hypercomputer I assume has a quantumness to it.  But its been shown that in ordinary spacetime, hypercomputation does not saeem possible
22:37.32GhelMatrioshka brains and planetary computing are similar to hypercomputation in that regard: a civilisation that gets stuck there has built dyson spheres and maybe even their own planets, but they evidentally did it all using slide rules.
22:38.03GhelWormy_: That's why SporeWikiverse hypercomputation falls squarely into the realm of hyperspatial engineering.
22:38.20Wormy_Indeed
22:39.09Wormy_I did read about some researchers making "chaos computers", neural networks with chaotic, analog inputs.  Their results are still to be published I think.
22:39.46Wormy_They believe may create an oracle machine.  Lets wait for them to prove it wrong I guess
22:39.49Tek0516Tech trees become extremely tangled if you want to be really accurate though
22:40.04Wormy_Yes
22:41.07GhelI've not included all of the individual steps for that reason, and as a general rule mathematical developments are completely absent because they're nothing more than requirements and research boosts.
22:41.54GhelHence no mention of chaos theory. Those chaos computers would be one part of classical information theory that could be worked on.
22:42.59Wormy_It is a good idea to leave it's requirements as "classical or quantum information theory" in that regard.
22:43.58Wormy_Tbh, I'm not sure why Oracles are that interesting physically
22:44.35Wormy_Because they still don't slay infinite classes of problems above them (requiring meta-oracles, and meta-meta-oracles) , blagh
22:45.45GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
22:46.21Wormy_Ghelae doesn't like infinities
22:50.48Tek0516You infinitely blew his mind?
22:57.15Wormy_he blue screened to prevent him from trying to solve the halting problem
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23:18.19Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/QXNbCnq http://i.imgur.com/VxpvuLj.jpg
23:25.57Wormy_Cyrannian|STO:  http://imgur.com/gallery/CDUTB
23:28.09Cyrannian|STOolol
23:30.01Wormy_Pretty sure no.4 still happens http://imgur.com/gallery/G98wY8M
23:32.20Wormy_11, yes
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23:53.49Wormy_I tried to open one of my old cassette tape cases and it took me ages to remember how to
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